Trusty Hogs - Ep119. LEAH DAVIS / Raccoons, Rabies & Rocky Bars

Episode Date: February 1, 2024

A raccoon traumatized Helen returns from Mexico with a newfound love for American holidaymakers, Catherine has had one of those weeks, and our brilliant guest is comedian and radio presenter Leah Davi...s!FOLLOW LEAH: @LeahhDavissTRUSTY HOGS TOUR TICKETS: trustyhogs.com/tourThank you so much for listening!Support us at https://www.patreon.com/TrustyHogs for exclusive bonus content, merch, and more!Trust us with your own problems and questions... TrustyHogs@gmail.comPlease give us a follow @TrustyHogs on all socialsBe sure to subscribe and rate us (unless you don’t like these little piggies - 5 Stars only!)Thank you to our Patreon supporters...EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Guy Goodman / Simon Moores / Mary Fox / Annie Tonner / Sarah Deakin / Oliver Jago / Anthony Conway / Matthew Thomas / Madeline Quinne / Grace O'ReillyPRODUCERS: Richard Bicknell / Elle / Richard Bald / Neil Redmond / Victoria Hutchison / Harald van Dijk / Tim & Dom / David Walker / Rachel R / Sadie Cashmore / Claire Owen-Jones / Jess & Nick / Zoë / Sarah & Molly / Raia Fink / Cordelia / Rachel Page / Helen A / Tina Linsey / Graham Marsh / Amy O'Riordan / Abbie Worf / Matt Sims / Luke Bright / Leah / Kate Spencer / Tristin / Liz Fort / Taz / Anthony / Klo / Becky Fox / Emily Gee / Dean Michael / Stefanie Catracchia / Sophie Chivers / Carey Seuthe / Charley A / KC / Hayley WorfWith Helen Bauer (Daddy Look at Me, Live at the Apollo) & Catherine Bohart (Roast Battle, Mock the Week, 8 Out of 10 Cats)FOLLOW HELEN, CATHERINE & ANDREW...@HelenBaBauer@CatherineBohart@StandUpAndrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Vroom, broom, beep, beep, motherfuckers. We're going on tour. Trusty hogs are going on the road. Roadhogs is coming to you, provided that you live very specifically in, Manchester, Brighton, Edinburgh, Dublin, Bristol, Leicester, or London. So, get your tickets.
Starting point is 00:00:19 And we'll see you there. Trustyhugs.com, is it? Vroom, broom, beep, beep, motherfuckerfers. I will not apologise. Mexico Are we starting Hello and welcome to episode 119 of Trustee Hogs
Starting point is 00:00:36 I'm Catherine Bohort I have not been on holiday and I think you can tell from my vibe She's Helen Bauer And she's just been in Mexico And it's honestly obnoxious How Rested you look
Starting point is 00:00:45 This is Trustee Hoggs This is the podcast Where we tell you about our frankly perfect lives And then we help you with your little problems Because they're so sad Have I missed anything? No I think you did a really good job Through the fog, step forth the trusty hogs, yeah, you're gonna give them your problems and they will solve them, or maybe they won't, and that's your problem.
Starting point is 00:01:11 They'll have guests, and Andrew White on the tech, oh, it's Helen and Catherine as the trusty hogs, trust the trusty hogs, or maybe not. How the hell are you? I'm so good. I hate you already. I'm actually furious. I'm so bad. I fell on my run this morning, which was like, honestly just like, I can't explain how indicative of the week I had. The other day, I went to Pilates.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I was running. I was late. I was lagging it. When I got there, I'd made it just in time, except I was then late for the class. Guess why? I couldn't get out of my own shoe. The zip broke. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:01:53 You've got zips on your shoes? Zip boots. Okay. I thought you meant like zip up trainers. No. Like the elderly or something. Anyway, no, zip up boots and the zip broke and honestly I was like sweating so hard. They let me in out of sympathy, I think. But I was so stressed.
Starting point is 00:02:11 So then I got back from my run this morning when I fell, opened the fucking glasses cabinet. I always have to remind myself to say cabinet or cupboard because we say press. We say press. Anyway, smashed it right into my nose. And I got, okay, fuck you. because it's my second time hearing it. Then I get here. So I know it doesn't get too serious. Then I get here.
Starting point is 00:02:31 She falls. She opens a cupboard on her nose. Then I get locked into my left boot. Then I get here. Late. She's late. She's late. I'm late. I immediately get here and I knock into the table and spill your coffee on the fresh table glass that I made you clean. Oh, it's been a week. How was Mexico? Did you listen to our episode without you?
Starting point is 00:02:54 I did. but like that was yesterday I listened to it yesterday I had you find it I okay you and Aroo are amazing Thank you so much Brona and you got a bit too Irish There I said it I said it
Starting point is 00:03:05 I loved it personally But I feel like it could have been a turn off Some of our UK listness Turn off for who? I don't know The loyalists The orange men who are listening to this Who are the loyalists
Starting point is 00:03:16 Oh my God please just So but I loved it I thought I wasn't slagged off that much Like usually I get like a real Like I mean you did refer to me Bully. Tell her what was editing? What was editing?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Was there something edited out of it? So I was, honestly, because obviously, like, it's the episode that I listened to. I was listening for edit points. Like, no one's breaking business. There was one, one I heard. Well, like, and then you referred to something
Starting point is 00:03:39 you'd already had in a conversation. I was like, they haven't had that conversation. And I was like, ha ha ha ha ha ha. That means that conversation you did have turned weird. So then you had to pull back. And when I say turned weird, because I'm sure people listening,
Starting point is 00:03:53 you hear edit, points like it's because we say a name we shouldn't say yeah or tell a secret we should or as in as was the case of the other day I asked a question I shouldn't have asked which happened multiple times no multiple times you were like the riddler of that episode you know that episode of friends I know we've got so many jenzy listeners who are like what's friends the episode of friends with the ridler in but no not with the riddle in when like they get back from honeymoon moniker and Chandler and they were on the plane and he's like you were your fucking questions
Starting point is 00:04:26 it was like flying with the riddler like when I was listening to the podcast because I was going to do my show a maidenhead last night I was on the Elizabeth line and Catherine's clearly like oh my dynamics gone I've lost my like bouncing friend
Starting point is 00:04:39 and it's just like do you know to the gym which gym do you go to what's your routine how's it going was it like that in India India India like an Irish you're like an Irish granny if you're not been to Ireland do you think her red hair is an island
Starting point is 00:04:51 have you seen anyone with red hair in India have you seen anyone with red hair in India Have you seen anyone with red hair in India? I don't know. Why are we asking these questions? I'm not being. That's why I was asking. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I lost my absolute freaking mind. It was like traveling with a puzzle book. No, do you know what it was? It was a woman who's used to being interrupted way more than she was. And so I just was like, I guess I'm filling all the space. This is crazy. I went crazy. Because of the interrupting that I do, or you feel I do.
Starting point is 00:05:20 No, I'm appreciative of it. Or you feel. I do. Should we use our feeling words? Our eye words, please. You then, when you're not being interrupted, you're just like so desperately trained. Because I have to speak here because you will interrupt me so I can only, I have to get, when I have a chance I have to speak quickly.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And I didn't need to do it. I didn't need to do it. I didn't need to chill out. I think it's a really good episode. I don't know what I'm saying this. Brona and Root is so funny. They're so brilliant. Obviously you're funny. You're always funny. Nice. Also, do I not tell you that you're beautiful ever? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:05:57 I felt like on the episode, like, they both told you you were beautiful and you were like, oh, that never happens here. I feel like I don't say it. Oh, no, it was just that a series of nice things had been said to me. Oh, right. Well, one's enough. Do you know what I mean? That's what it was. No, you have to say it was like, also I was wearing pajamas and nobody mocked me. Like, I was wearing pajamas out of the house. Yeah, I noticed that. So I was more like, I was just disconcerted. I was like, is everything okay? Like, it felt like, if my parents were that nice to me, I'd be like, which one of he's dying.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Exactly. There's a limit to the compliments. So that's all it was. It wasn't, no, you tell me plenty. That was fine. But then you, like, you know, slap me on the face or whatever. I would never. I would never.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I slap the tit. I need the vagina. I never slap the face. And I want that noted. Okay. Oh, my God. Also, in your absence. A nipple flick.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah. Sure. You do that a lot. It's different. It's playful. It is playful. Little bite. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And you'd always kiss it better if I ask. But Helen, in your absence, I was like. Open mouth. I was like. Yeah, he's more like suckling better. Suckling it better. Have you ever, oh, you must have done. Is that like I?
Starting point is 00:07:02 I don't know why I said it like that. Finn, I need you to finish the question because what's hanging in the air is disconcerting. Just I was going to like not like, have you ever suckled as an adult and someone else's nipple? No. No. Okay, me neither then. No.
Starting point is 00:07:14 No. No, no. God, no. No. No, I'm saying no. I'm saying no, too. I'm just asking. What do you think lesbians get up to?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Like holding each other like a baby and suckling on each of those nipples and then scissoring? It's friction stuff, isn't it? Dear God, you're exhausting. Friction and pegging. Why did I ask the question? Pegging. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:31 No, do you wear dildos? Yeah, but pegging's butt. Frot each other. Pegging's butt, right? Pegging's bat. Wait, sorry, did you just say they wear dildos? So they're frothing with the strap-ons? Where's the pleasure in that?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Huh? Well, there's no pleasure in it for me, full stop. I'm sure. I'm sure. Oh my gosh. But wait, in your app. Okay, I actually, I can't. It's too late in the day. It's too weird in the day. I'm so sorry, Catherine.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Do you want to hear about mehiko? We don't just sword fight with dildas if that's what you're. No, I know that. I know that. It's a lot of rubbing and licking. I know you're tired at the end. Like, I know when you've done it the night before because you'll call me up in the morning and you'll be in the bath and you'll look very relaxed.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah, and your speech is a bit slower. Shut up hell. What? What? I called you No, I'm happy. I want you to be rubber-dub-dun. I love Catherine when she's just had a lovely
Starting point is 00:08:24 La-la. Like, you're really happy. Yeah. I do take a lot of calls in the bar. Yeah. That's just a fact about me. Yeah, because I feel like it relaxes your muscles after all that, you know. Also, I hate wasting time. Frotting. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But in your absence, I said to the group, like, we're all watching traders, right? These two fuckers are like, no. Yeah. A rude and brother are like, no. I was like, excuse me what? The whole nation is watching it. Everyone's actually like, I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I have a whole gang who come over every Monday night to watch it. Like, it's a big thing. It's so good. We're so in. And please tell me you're watching it because I've had no one to talk to about it in this room. I am. I flew back from Mexico. I've done two tour shows and I've watched that.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I've caught up with the whole traitor. That's my girl. Because I take it seriously. She's a British woman. I take reality TV very seriously. Oh my God. It's phenomenal. What a story.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Now, we are recording this just so everyone who is watching the traitors as it comes out. Friday of the final. The final is tonight. So you guys will always. know what's happened. If you don't, just skip ahead. There are people coming to my house
Starting point is 00:09:23 at 11.30pm. Post my comedy store gig to watch the final together because we've watched the rest as a group. It's like taken over my life. I'm obsessed with it. I can't. When I'm a, like honestly
Starting point is 00:09:34 I wake up in the night thinking about it. I, there is apparently on our Patreon, the Discord now has another, what's the word for the, how do the perverts work? It's called a channel. You have different channels in Discord.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Right. The Discord has, You need to get so much better down with the kids, like you are. I don't wish to. You're aging. I love you do the Botox, but your mind ages you. So much more than your skin ever good. That's so true.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You age yourself through words. Shut your fucking mouth. Get your Botox and then we'll believe you're in your 20s. Stop with the talking. It's embarrassing. It's actually so true. I'm such a gratitude. Paying thousands of pounds to look young.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I don't pay a penny for that boat. How do you save a video? then on the Instagram on the YouTube's. Oh God, it's so true. I don't know about YouTube. But the Discord has a channel and they're talking about traders
Starting point is 00:10:28 so people are talking about it. I don't know what they're saying but if you're on the Patreon you can see also you should just be on our Patreon because you get extra episodes. Just tell me now. Do you want Harry to win? No.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Me neither. Despite the fact it would be a better episode. I agree. And I adored him. Until? Oh, you know and until. Was it until yesterday when he was like
Starting point is 00:10:48 I want to win the money. No, it was, there was a moment when Ross was first initiated. Yeah. And they, he said what happened with Diane? And Harry said the words, we, she was getting a bit brave and we had to put her in her place. And I was like, vomit down my chest. I'm out. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:11:09 The room of lesbians I was in who had been rooting for him because obviously, aesthetically, he's our guy. Literally turned, ice cold against this man. It was like, no. Don, donso out, finito, your misogyny is showing. They were done in a heartbeat. It went like, truly the whole room turned. It was gone. So no.
Starting point is 00:11:30 So my problem with Harry is he's technically the best player. He's so good. I hate that he knows it. I really enjoyed him when he was, he was, I guess the arrogance of Paul covers. Yes, yes. And it just seemed like he was being really small. but he was being understated. And the consequence of Paul going
Starting point is 00:11:51 is this sort of weird need for him to assert that it was all him the whole time. Which I also love. I love that he's getting annoyed that the traitor leaves and he's like, they're all saying he's the best traitor, but I've been here the whole time.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I know, and it's like, dude, at the end you'll get your dues, but I do find the arrogance is what I hope undoes him. My favourite thing in the traitors so far this season is last night's episode. So I did a show of Maidenhead and I came back.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Wait, is this episode 11? Yeah. Haven't seen it. Mother fuck, Catherine. I need to watch it later on. I need to watch it on my way home. I can't have me to tell me. Oh, but I want to banter with you about it.
Starting point is 00:12:23 You can't, you mustn't. I'm sorry. Can I, when are you going to watch it? I'll watch it at lunch and we can talk about it in the next episode. You promise? I promise. You're going to stay in here. Don't talk to me.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Don't talk to me. I'll talk to me. I honestly find the fact that we have lunch together whilst we're doing podcasting very difficult. Oh no. It's a lot talking. It's what do you want me to say? You just heard all my news. You know, once I didn't come to the group lunch.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Oh yeah, you pretended you had a headache. No, I brought food with me. I had stuff that was going off at home. And then you guys all turned it off and I was like, oh no, I've got my own food. No, I really get it. Oh, my God. It's an honor and a privilege to sit here and watch it. I put an episode of Girls of the Playboy Mansion.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Remember that show from E? Remember that show? I still watch that show. What are you talking about? Holly is a dream. Are you listening to... How do you write her autobiography? Forget the order.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Forget down the rabbit hole. And yes, I have. Have you listened to girls? Oh my God. What is it called? Their podcast? Yes. Yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Why are you acting like, I genuinely cannot believe Kendra's upbark. How do we feel about Kendra? I know they're like, I know, it's complicated, but she was so young. And also like, I don't think, I think the production team set up this hatred. It's not her or them. And I think they, I think they're even aware of it. Holly's incredibly articulate and she's like fake drama creates real drama.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Bridget's the best though, right? I love Bridget. Bridget was my favorite on the show. Holly's now my favorite. but Bridget was my favourite on the show. Is that because her personality was based around. I like theming. Partly, but also because Bridget didn't make any sense there.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Bridget looked like she'd stumbled in and was like, I mean, I guess I need somewhere to live. For anyone, by the way, who doesn't know what this is, Hugh Hefner, who was the CEO of Playboy, used to have a TV show, but it was all about his girlfriends called The Girls Next Door in America and Girls Playboy Mansion in the UK.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And it was about the three of them living there. And it's not dirty, like you think. Yes, he's 80. Yes, they're 25 and 19. Yes, they get moles of their vagina sometimes. Yes, in chocolate. And yes, they have a curfew. Yes, they have to be in by 8pm.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And then I'd go anywhere with that permission. When Richard finally got her spread and she had to share her, but she was still thrilled. Oh, my God. But that's what it is. Yeah. That's what it is. So, like, just go along with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And they've got their own podcast talking about how awful it was making it and it's really good. But how was Mexico? Thank you. It was genuinely amazing. I don't have much to say because I was like, it was so, it's, I mean, if people have been, they'll know, so beautiful, the people are so fucking lovely, the food's insane. Like, there's so much amazing stuff to see, and I feel like I saw a lot of incredible things. The one thing I will say is like, before I went, I tell everyone I'm going, I try and get all
Starting point is 00:15:10 the tips from people, and I really did get so much, like, oh, go to this sonota, this swimming hole, go to the Chittanista, like go to this restaurant and thank you to everyone who sent them in or like messaged on Instagram. But none of, no one told me about raccoons. Like, no one. No one did. Like, you know it's not. No, I do unfortunately watch all of your Instagram stories. Even when my, even when my brain's like, you're not prepared for this, do it later. I'm still like, oh, breath. And also because I'd
Starting point is 00:15:42 relaxed, because I'd done Mexico City, which as far as I was concerned from everyone telling me stuff was like going to be the part of the trip that I had to be by wits about me. I have never felt more safe in a city than a Mexico city. I felt more safe there than in London. It was just, it's amazing. I do find can I say... Apart from the bus I got hit by a bus
Starting point is 00:15:59 that was the worst part. But apart from being hit by a bus, it was fine. But just one bus. Sorry, I'm and I think the bruise is gone now. Is the heating on? Is there a bruise there? No, you don't have a single bruise. Okay, it was really big. I'll show you a picture. Sorry, what do you mean you got hit by a bus?
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah, the bus. closed on me the doors of a bus and then, yeah, awful. Hang on, sorry. Hang on, hang on, hang on. The doors of a boat closed on you. No, I'm thinking of this, because Francis said that his encounter is being hit by a bus as well. The doors. The doors of a bus.
Starting point is 00:16:27 No, no, no, no. Do you have any idea how awful it is getting on a Mexican bus with your six-foot-one and morbidio-B for the backpack on your front? Do you have any idea how hard that is? Hang on. To walk into a bus with all these little Mexican people looking at you, like, what the fuck's wrong with that white one? You need to stop screaming.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I was, I was huge, and it was pan. and they were all staring at me like bloody fucking how where did she where did she land from and me in france are like hello and we don't know the rules of mexican buses so we're moving you understand that you just made me think that you were almost run over by a bus there was a bus and i was hit i was hit by a bus the door of the bus hit into your arm sick of this have you talked to francis already no i'm following the logic of your story the door i was technically no okay no so what happened to me then That's like saying... So I was hit by a bus. I was like, oh no, how could you go in? What happened to me? You knocked into the door of a bus. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:17:23 You got in the way of a bus's door. A Mexican bus was hit by you. You've damaged metropolitan city of Mexico. Public transport system. Bullshit. You got a door closed on you. I was like having to try and get myself down this bus. A door closed, don't you?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Because more people trying to get on but no one else was making space so I was doing that British thing of making space for people because I was like oh I want to be like nice you know and then me and Rances
Starting point is 00:17:55 both got stuck by the doors that opened like into people Wait you were already on the bus Yeah oh my God you can't be inside the bus and get hit by a boss
Starting point is 00:18:04 And we had to go like seven stops Sorry no no no We had to go seven stop No it was though Wait wait you don't know what happens yet It's like I've been run over by a car No you've caught your finger I don't know what happens yet.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And then people are trying to get off. So then me and Francis get off to let people off, right? And then, but the door opens onto you. So I'm trying to let people off. And then the door closes on my arm and catches my arm fat. And I'm just there, like, attached to the pass. And I was like, you didn't get run over. And I was trying to pull the doors open to me and Francis get back on.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I was like, Francis, do you want to get back on? And they're just like, I don't know. And I was like, ah! And all the Mexicans are just like, ha, ha, ha. I mean it is inherently funny that it was awful so I was hit by a bus oh your arm got caught in the door it was very bruised it was very bruised it was very bruised I've got pictures did you add makeup to them
Starting point is 00:18:57 no which would be my go to which is a shame oh my god look how fire that picture is that is a good picture of your ass that is you know when you are wearing a swimsuit and you go in the sea and then you come out and you sit on like a towel and then you get like your bum print right but it looks like I've got a dick in mine because it comes so far forward oh I didn't even look at the print I'm so gay I just looked at your ass no look at the print it's like I've got like I've got like I've got it's like I think it's
Starting point is 00:19:32 good um no I do I have I haven't even look at the wet stain that's really bad I want to say print that's stain. I hope that's staying. You shouldn't oh look here I am poor Helen. Oh shit that actually is a horrible bruise. I was hit by a bus no your fucking arm got caught in the door.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Hit by a bus and then so then we get so we arrive in we arrive to like the coast to like to Lom and we're like oh we can chill now like I've recovered from my bus injury and check into the hotel and it's like the most beautiful like little boutique hotel little hut and the guys like
Starting point is 00:20:07 the right arm that you showed me. Yes. Okay. Yes. I would know. I was hit by a bus. And the guy's like, oh, it's too hot. It's too hot.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Oh, bloody hell. And he was like huge and sweating. And he was like totally in love with me. Right. Could just fucking tell. And he did not say, yeah. And he didn't say anything about raccoons either. And then me and Francis are just like sitting outside of our heart, like chilling out.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Had a lovely beach day. And this raccoon comes up, like really big. And Francis was like, oh, look a cat. And I was like, that's not our fucking cat. That's a raccoon. I've seen the American TV. TV shows. And I was like, what's he doing here? I was like frantically Googling at being like, there's no, there's like, the raccoons that they have in Mexico don't look like him. So I was
Starting point is 00:20:47 like, what is he doing? That's mad. And then I was like, oh shit, you should have got a picture. He's so cute for my sister. So we're eating crisps. I already hate this story. And I didn't know they had fucking rabies. No one told me anything about raccoons or rabies. I think it's a reasonable guess. I think it's a straight of guess. It's not. They're like the sort of poster child for rabies in America. Yeah. They're the rabies guys.
Starting point is 00:21:11 No. Like M didn't know that either. And also no one said anything about no, that's not a thing. It is, but it's not like common common knowledge. I think it is.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So we throw some crisps on the ground and me and Francis are like at this point we're just like so cute, so cute. And then another one comes back and then another, well, sort of moving them away from us so they would go somewhere else but also still come back.
Starting point is 00:21:37 It was a bit of a tricky place. And then the hotel guy was like, oh, what is it? What is it? Because we were like chasing around and I get pictures of them. And he was like, oh, be careful. They do turn violent and they've got rabies.
Starting point is 00:21:47 We were like, okay. Because we thought, because he had such like a... He had like a bit of a surly vibe so it was hard to tell whether he was banter or not. And then like... And also because everyone else in the resort was just like just sitting really still, chill.
Starting point is 00:22:00 But they were all coming to us because we had the food. Freezing with fear. And then it got really dark. And then like we were just sort of sitting. they're talking and they were like three around us. It's like, fuck this, we're going in, we're going in. And then they all just gathered.
Starting point is 00:22:14 So what I'm saying is if you go to Mexico, do not feed the raccoons because they will remember and come back. And they have rabies. I don't know that anybody needed that reminder. Well, no one told me. They're so cute and they're so little. Can I tell you that watching your holiday made me want a holiday so bad that I've booked a trip to Athens where I've never been.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I saw that on your Instagram story. I'm so excited. I can't believe I studied history and I'm 35 and I've never been to Athens. I'm so excited. but the British Museum, that's the problem. No, I do know that, but I wouldn't give them my money. The British Museum's free? For my attendance.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It's free. I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going. I won't be going there. That'll be amazing. Yeah, we're going for Ellen's birthday and I'm really excited. By which I mean her birthday is while I'm doing Soho, so we are going the weekend before.
Starting point is 00:22:56 But I'm bad girlfriend. How long are you going for? We're going for three nights, four days. And people have sent me so many good recommendations and I'm so excited. It'll be amazing. I'm so excited. But having talked about Greece and Mexico, now I'm starving. Well, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:23:12 No, it's not. We have a podcast. Yeah, but you can eat after the podcast. Do you don't take a break now and eat? Are you gotten hungry? No, I want you to tell me about the All-American Inclusive. This is the final part of the holiday. Have you ever done this?
Starting point is 00:23:24 No. Checked into a hotel and realized you're an American All-Inclusive. No, what is that? Okay, so I've done a British All-Inclusive when I was 18 in Zanti. Like, not just breakfast. Like, all your meals. Zant-I've got to get it. I get that day.
Starting point is 00:23:37 That was ages ago. Fucking genius. Sometimes I remember stuff. When I'm deeply shamed that I've got something wrong, it really sticks with me. Usually do a breakfast buffet, get the Tupperware, keep it, like load up, love up. And then I was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:23:49 we're going to do an all inclusive where you get a band where you check in and it's like all your drinks, all your food. P.S. Emma Black text me and said it's totally normal to have a pack list on your phone. Oh, fucking Emma Black. A lot of people have actually been asking for your pack list. Yes! I'll put it on the Instagram.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I'll send it to you. I hate it. when you feel this validated because look how smug your face is right now like I've done a good thing I did good Emma Black
Starting point is 00:24:14 you're on my team you're my school friend I'm sick of having to like do this with my friends She's currently I'm upholstering my re-apolstering myself so I think she's on my team
Starting point is 00:24:23 God she's such a Emma! What a woman Emma What a woman Hi Emma love you Let's go now She's being up to do that
Starting point is 00:24:30 in your spare time What a cool woman Anyway sorry So you usually bring your lunchbox For the British All Inclusive What's the difference between that and an American one. Americans?
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yeah. It is fucking insane. Is it just bigger portions? No, no, it's a buffet. It doesn't matter about the portions. Forget about the food. It's just the people. Go on.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Oh, enchanted. Absolutely enchanted. Everyone's got a Stanley Cup or like a beer cooler. Me and Francis like check in and we're like, there's a lot of Americans here. It's only Americans. Oh, it's like an insulated large cup that makes you drink loads of water. It's like a fashion statement.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Okay. I want one. It's 45 pounds and apparently you're leaks I don't give a shit I want one It's so bad It leaks
Starting point is 00:25:09 I don't care I don't care I want it We've got one It doesn't leak Who has one Chelsea Buckby's one We won one
Starting point is 00:25:15 At Latcheed Festival Oh Who won ones Thank you Me and Reese Well I want it But Reese Fucking Reese
Starting point is 00:25:20 Fucking Reese Boyfriends Boyfriends Am I right I don't know I don't know I don't have one I said it was also like
Starting point is 00:25:29 Boyfriends But they are good They're good I recommend them Yeah The Stanley Cup With the Boyfriends The Stanley Cup
Starting point is 00:25:34 The Stanley Cup sounds like something you win for golf, but fine. Okay, go on. Yeah, what do you? It is. It is. It's a cricket. No, ice hockey. Ice hockey.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Our sports knowledge is getting really good. Our sports knowledge is getting so good. Okay, so check in. We go on the beach, and it's just like fucking chaos. Like, bro, I'm going to build you the best website you've ever heard of you. Bro, seriously. No, man, I've already got a website, dude. And I bet he's a good dude.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I'm telling you it was a good dude, but I'm going to do you something so much better. and then just American women be like Take a picture Take a picture Logan And me and France to that Like headphones in Pretending to listen to something
Starting point is 00:26:14 Just listening to that Like absolutely enchanting We're like half annoyed Half completely in love Then after dinner one night Are you doing that thing where you put your sunglasses on So they can't see you stare Oh it just got to the point where I was like
Starting point is 00:26:25 There's nothing better than a mirrored sunglasses So you could just watch everybody at the pool It's so much more They are having so much more fun than British people. I do agree. It's insane how much fun they're having. There was a woman who was with a guy. She must have been like in her mid-60s.
Starting point is 00:26:41 He was clearly in the mid-60s as well. She was clearly like... We love to see an age-appropriate couple. She was fucking going for it. She wanted to ride the fuck out of him and she wanted him to be completely in love with her. And he didn't even know her name. No.
Starting point is 00:26:55 We were having a couple of cigarettes on the beach. No, no, no, no. Just like people trying to get with people. Oh, oh my God. That's so much more excited. we're on the beach and he's like he's clearly a smoke because she's not and she's like go on let me have her let me have
Starting point is 00:27:08 a bit let me have a bit and he's like no you'll feel sick and she's like no I won't no you'll feel sick no I won't I used to smoke and she's trying to do that whole like early 20s cute girl thing and it's like on your boobs around you fucking fanny she's like no go on she has like one dragon and she goes I feel like
Starting point is 00:27:28 headed and it's like no you don't you haven't felt lightheaded since the 70s and then she starts going into the ocean and he's like Michelle don't get in the ocean you'll get your clothes wet you can't go in at this time of night and she's like it's so beautiful out here then she sits down in the ocean she's there for only 30 seconds can she get back up yeah she's there for 30 seconds and she's looking back at him looking back at him she clearly thinks half an hour's gone by and she goes oh my god I'm sorry I lost myself in the ocean fuck off it's so Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:28:03 You should get it. Behave yourself, Michelle. My favourite guy in the whole result? I suppose if you're 60, you have to act, well, if you're like well in your 60s, you have to act like times moving a little bit quicker
Starting point is 00:28:13 than it is. You don't have a half an hour to kill. To be clear, I will be that 60 year old. I will be that 60 year old. I love it. My mom's that 70 year old. I have a really unrelotable,
Starting point is 00:28:24 unrelatable thing to say to you, which is that when I laugh and I'm thrilled to be laughing, but when I do laugh, my abs hurt. Because I did a blast class yesterday. Wait, what's a blast? Stop with this. What's the blast class? It's like a, oh no,
Starting point is 00:28:36 Wednesday it was. It's like a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a high intensity, loads of ab stuff. My tummy hurts every time I laugh and I don't like it. Well, don't laugh. Oh, this one make you laugh. Oh, Michelle died in the ocean. Michelle died in the ocean. Michelle died that day. Yeah, whilst being licked out by the man, though. Yay! A man in his 60s doesn't lick anybody out. Give over.
Starting point is 00:28:59 She would make them. That would be, it'd be like sandpaper. Oh. Whoa. And dry men because those men don't give head, not because... She's in the ocean. It's not going to be like sandpaper. Why is she dry? No, no. His tongue would be dry is what I'm saying. Oh yeah. Is it? Is it? It better be. Sorry to put that image in your head. It better be. Also, to be clear, I am her when I'm 60.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Oh yeah. I want to be the woman with like tits everywhere. My body's absolutely disintegrated and I'm still pretending to be like, I can't open the jar. It's like, I can hell. I bought my own property. Like, what am I doing? Shout out to Michelle. There was a man. I didn't see this interaction. Francis did. I only saw him later in the day. At the bar,
Starting point is 00:29:40 like cowboy hat on, no shirt, just, like, trunks. Yeah. He must have been like 70 or something. Yeah. And he was just saying to like
Starting point is 00:29:48 young girls in their bikinis, like in their 20s. My wife died. Wait, was the Irish? My wife died three months ago. Was the Irish? Like Canadian, like Winnipeg or something I said. Like my wife died three months ago.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And they'd be like, oh no, oh my God, you pour, you poor dear, you poor dear. And they do it like pour all over him. And I'm like, that's a move. That's so grim. It's a move. That's so grim. I'm trying to honour her memory. Like, no, you're not.
Starting point is 00:30:20 But wait, my question remains. By coming to Cancun. What was at the buffet? I'm so hungry, can you tell. It wasn't good. That's the one thing I will say. You've got no idea how excited I was. to have access to a world buffet 24-7.
Starting point is 00:30:34 No good? It was so bad. What kind of bad? I guess you've just eaten beautiful, authentic Mexican food for days. Francis figured it out. Everything tasted like fridge. Oh, it's so specific, but I know exactly what you mean. That's horrid.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Like all the puddings tasted just like fridge, all the different colors. All the foods tasted like fridge. Francis, that is such a good articulation or something. Everything was fridge. Oh my God, that's hell on her. But it was like a lot of fridge food. That's hell on it. earth.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Like the guacamole was nice. Well yeah I mean you'd expect that much it was yeah the food was fucking shocking
Starting point is 00:31:09 and they also did a phone party at midday at one point no reason just filled the pool with bubbles and there were like three girls
Starting point is 00:31:17 did Michelle make it out okay in the rain with Stanley cups like and then guys in the 70s like I just lost my wife I really want to Google
Starting point is 00:31:25 a Stanley cup and also if anybody wants to send us a Stanley Cup how do you not know what a Stanley Cup I'm Googling no you can't ask
Starting point is 00:31:31 people for that they're like 45 pounds or something. Maybe Stanley can send us one. What, I can't ask. No. Maybe. Oh, I'm getting the Stanley Cup
Starting point is 00:31:39 is the trophy award for National Hockey League. No, I want to see a Stanley Cup 40 ounces. Is that what I need? Yeah, it's like all the girls drink out of it on the internet. Oh my God, I want. I really want. So cute. I want one too.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Oh my God, there's a little one that goes on like a, um, on a, what's the gay thing were you climbing? Carabina. Thank you. What's the gay thing when you're climbing? I want a, I want a carabina and a, I'm one of these. They're so cute.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And like if you have one, it's like a status thing, I think. Is it? I think it's like a Jane Norbag, isn't it? There's, um, Kristen Chenoweth has one, and she's like always doing TikToks with her Stanley Cup. Oh my God, and that's going to be the size of her. I want to be in her Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yes, you could marry her Stanley Cup. She could be like, oh, Stanley and he'd be like, that'd be nice. Let's get Stanley Cups then. I'd love to. Let's not go for dinner before your gig tonight. Let's just go buy Stanley cups. All right, I can't afford one.
Starting point is 00:32:29 We can, 45 pounds. We can do that. No, I can. hand for it. Just get Andrew to get out of the Trusty Honspool. I don't think that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:32:34 We don't need the studio anymore. No, we do though. We actually do. And we're paying edges right there. She didn't hear it. I'm using my hushed tones.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Do you think this is an aside? How about we don't pay M this month? Helen. Oh shit. Em edits there. Are you ready? Hi, M. Our guest is here.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Are you ready to introduce this? Yes, yes. Okay. Please, welcome to the trusty hog, It's the wonderful. It's the wonderful. Leah Davis. We've been out of practice, it's all right.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Hi, I'm Catherine Beauxhart and I'm going to the Soho Theatre in London for two weeks in March. Now, wouldn't it be convenient if they were back to back and I could just tell you the dates? Of course it would. They're not. The first one begins the week commencing the 4th of March and the second one, after a week's break, begins the week commencing the 18th of March. So, early March, late March, where will I be? Soho Theatre, my loves. And I'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:33:32 The tickets I haven't sold necessarily as fast as I like them to. But listen, there are some available. And I'll be there doing my goddamn best with my new show. That's the debut of my new show. So please come. I'd be thrilled having the audience. The show is called Again With Feelings. And the earlier you buy your tickets at Soho, the less expensive they are.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Thank you so much. This is it. It's me, Helen Bauer, from Disney Hawks. I just want to say I'm doing my show one last time in the UK at the Earth in Hackney in London on March 2nd
Starting point is 00:34:09 it's a double bill with Olga Koch you can see both of us, you can see one of us come for the whole night you've got like a little break in between us to go get some food it's going to be magical, it's going to be sexy and I'd love to see you there thank you
Starting point is 00:34:22 Welcome to Leah because it's Leah's part of the podcast now Welcome to the something And we're going to have a talk I think some people think white women can Hello Hi Welcome
Starting point is 00:34:45 Thank you so much better off for that song I feel on it Don't suck up to her Oh, no, that was bad. No, I needed you to say that. I was trying to find the beat. I was trying to click along. And so was she.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And so was she. Also, you thought I just called you a slag, so I'm really glad you liked it, because otherwise it could be so awkward. We're back, we're back, we're back. Wait, before you get into this story, I need, I'm a living for your blue eyeliner. If you're watching on YouTube, feel free to have a real good look. It's heaven. Oh, my God, it's good.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Thank you. Just Kiko. Really? Oh, they're good. Oh, they're good. That's a straight hand. For anyone in their 30s from Britain, it's good. it's giving Miss Sporty
Starting point is 00:35:22 electric blue mascara Oh my God it is It's so good I was thinking it was like a Ms magazine free gift Because I definitely had a blue They could never They could never It's so good
Starting point is 00:35:34 Do you remember Like in the early noughties Where all makeup was like triple different things Like it wouldn't just be a mascara It's a mascara It's a hair wand And it's a body glitter
Starting point is 00:35:43 And it's fell the peach And you can put it on your body And in your eye But do not consume this Very important. Very important. And we all did. Like, how many lips all, like, lip bombs did you get through?
Starting point is 00:35:57 Why does it smell of food if you're not meant to eat it? I was watching, because now we're obviously older and wiser. I was watching a vlogger this morning. She's packing for her half-wild cruise, Brogan Tate. Enjoy yourself, my babe. And half-world crew, she's getting married on ship, and the rest of it's a honeymoon. Yeah, she's flown to New Zealand and her and her and her fiancé are working their way back to the UK.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So they haven't done a wedding with their whole family. They're just like, fuck it. putting all the money into a half world cruise and they're like stopping off at loads of places along the way. I'm like, you're amazing. I respect getting married away from your family. I don't like it's a big gamble to assume the cruise will be good. No, they're
Starting point is 00:36:31 cruisers. They're cruisers. Oh, they're cruisers. As in yeah. Not in the gay man way, which I now know about Andrew. Good few boys. I enjoy that education in the episode. That was great. That was great. Oh my God, wait. We have a straight woman on the podcast, do we? Question mark? You do.
Starting point is 00:36:47 You do. This is an admin area. Oh, no one told me. Finally, I feel like it's a safe space. We should not be according heterosexual artisines for a helen, come on. No, we shouldn't. It's embarrassing. It is. But can I tell you, well, Brogan tape packed? Because you know how much...
Starting point is 00:37:02 Are you picking at your eye while you ask? Yeah, it's got like an eye boge. Is it gone? Yeah, you're okay. Yeah. I took loads of weed gummies last night, so I slept too well. Loads of them. Yeah. Risky. Well, Jordan was having some, so then I wanted to have more to show that I'm like, I also get
Starting point is 00:37:17 high. But I don't really, so I got too high. had to go to bed. How many did you have? After having three quarters of a large stuffed crust pizza hut pizza about, yeah, ordered it at midnight. So, yeah. It's been a bit of a tough, like, digestively. It's been a bit of a rough 10 hours. But, yeah, I'm all right.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Anyway, Brogan was packing. They've got like Claren's lip oils and there's one that tastes like raspberries. I've seen these. They look ridiculous. I would never. It's not in my apartment. Should we do it? No, should we do it?
Starting point is 00:37:49 For Clarence that they're stooping to raspberry lip oil, I always thought of them as like a mom's grown-up brand. I'm sad for them. That makes me sad. It's a bit lip smacker, isn't it? I said what I said. I said what I said. Where did you get married?
Starting point is 00:38:03 I got married like near Somerset kind of way. I'm from near where Andrew's from. I'm from Wiltshire. And you were both in the British comedian final British comedian of the year. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Whoa. But yeah, no, we're married like.
Starting point is 00:38:19 wearing cardigans. Were you separated at birth? I think so. That would be amazing. What? That was crazy. They finished each other's sentences. That was wild.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Oh my God. This is insane. Favorite sitcom, one, two, three. Arrested element. Arrested. No. Get out of here. It should never be elephant.
Starting point is 00:38:39 No, you've been busted. You've also arrested development. We'll come back to that. Yeah, we will. That's one we've been in that. What's your actual favorite? Actual favorite sitcom? Probably this country.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Is this country a sitcom or is it a comic? I don't know, but I love it. I think it's a sitcom. I watch it. It's situational. Yeah. And it's comical. I do that with so many sitcoms.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I just love the feeling of dible. Yes. Oh, nice. It's just comforting. Okay, that would take me back to a nice childhood space, you know. I would love that. Right. Well, not a nice childhood space.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Like, a space when your family weren't there at the TV. Yeah, true, too. One of the two. One of the two, yeah. Which snacks? Oh my God, I used to go home. and microwave rocky bars. You know, rocky bars?
Starting point is 00:39:23 I used to like stick two on a plate. What's a rocky bag? Sorry, what is the rocky bar? The best chocolate. Yeah, like really thick chocolate on the outside and then kind of like biscuity in the middle. They would be like a finger size and I would just unwrap them, put them on a plate,
Starting point is 00:39:37 stick two in the microwave. Like that. Like a clubbar? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, and we're taking them in the microwave and then. Yeah, and then just go to town. What degree of melting are we going to? Just like, oh, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Not wet, but like, malleable. Right, okay. Can you still pick it up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. The biscuit in the middle? It's just... Staying firm?
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah, it is. Staying firm. Exactly. Exactly. And it was so good. That would be the dream and no one would be home. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And when you say going to town, are we getting rid of all the chocolate first and eating the biscuit last? No, no. Are you like face first? Yeah, face first. Yeah, face first, thing looking good after. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Whoa. Yeah, baby. I'm really happy for you. I don't know why I've got really emotional with that. That is a beautiful family memory. No, but I'm going home, being by yourself and just getting to like... Also, because, like, teenage girls,
Starting point is 00:40:25 it's tough at school to meet exactly what you want. Exactly. So true. Then to go home and just be like... Did you have to take off your charm bracelet because it was too loud? It's so jingly and I, you know, audio... First of all, what a pro as a broadcaster.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Secondly, dear God, straight women are basic. What are these charms? Do you have a lucky... What is this? Is this a clover or a shamrock? It's a watch. It's a watch. It's a watch with charms. I got it on eBay.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Of course you did. I got it on eBay. And I just thought, this really, she really, you know, she speaks to me. It's annoyingly chic. It's annoyingly chic, but I don't, but I, this woman speaks to you, your little charm. Okay. I have two charm bracelets. Of course you do you.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah. One that I got for my christening from my granny. Huh? But it's so small. It'll never fit me. And it's also got like her charms on it. So it's like what she thought I could become. So it's got like the holy.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Bible, a ballerina, great effects. Like, and it's just sort of like, did you meet me before you bought it? Like, even baby hell I wasn't going to become a ballerina. That's mental. Like, all these really like soft, beautiful girly things. And then when I was 18, we like, me and my like friends at school, we'd always like put in people's 18th birthday and something special.
Starting point is 00:41:38 They got me a Lynx of London. Wow, 18. We were a big group. There was like 15 of us. That's so wonderful. I really thought you were going to say Pandora. Yeah. Same.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Same, same, same. I don't know if Pandora was, like, basic enough then. I think it was too luxury at that point. Now it would be Pandora. Okay. And I've got a little charms in it. But it's like, lucky knickers. Like, a martini glass.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Nice. And it's like to both of them are just so, don't work for me as an adult. Hey, fair knickers for when you get locked out of your hotel room. That's a good callback. You're welcome. Really nice. Thank you. Bro. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. How are you? How's your week's been? Yeah, my week's been okay. I've just been trying to like keep my lungs in. I just keep on coughing and I do feel like they're really close to coming out. But apart from that, I've been, I've been okay.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Listen, I have also had a like epic three week cough, which is so boring and annoying because it's not even COVID, so you're not even getting sympathy. Exactly. All just recovering more slowly, I think. I went to the doctor and she was just like, no. She was like, it's a virus. You'll be fine. And she didn't give me anything. She gave me no drugs. She just said, and she was like, I was like, what about paracetamil? She was like, that really is only for pain relief. Like, if you have to, for pain, but it's going to do nothing for the virus. And she just really humbled me.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Wow. Is it really intense? Is it one of those ones you coughed too much in the morning? You wet yourself a bit. Yes. Yeah, exactly that. I had that one before. But I don't think it doesn't count as wetting yourself if you're in your own house.
Starting point is 00:43:06 But like, yeah. Is that the boundary? I think so. Okay. If I make it through the door and then I piss myself, I'm like, it doesn't matter because I'm not at home. Yeah. I'm not drunk I'm homeworked
Starting point is 00:43:16 She's never really home dry There's always something going on No but you know when you're like Dying for the toilet on a night bus And then as soon as you get through your door Your body starts going I wish I wasn't about to say these words But you've said this before
Starting point is 00:43:31 On the podcast Yes I know But like She's trying to justify it as normal You know when you're wetting yourself Outside your house Yeah you know when you're obviously You've begun urinating
Starting point is 00:43:41 You know when you pee at the door It is normal. Did you piss yourself a bit when you were juke off? No. Come on. Show me your human side. I'm the inverse though. I've had to go to the doctor because I have like an overly clenched.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I have an uptight pelvis. I can't relax enough to let we it. Yeah. So, you know, we've all got stuff going on. Yeah. But every moment she's dry on top and work, we don't balance each other out. Mine's arid to them. Do you not remember the time Kaffin had to go to the dog?
Starting point is 00:44:13 because she was holding in too many poohs. Yes, I do. I had just started dating somebody new and her... Hang on, excuse me. I was speaking to Leah now. Sorry, Leah. I was dating someone new and I find it very stressful
Starting point is 00:44:30 that they might be able to hear me go to the toilet and the toilet was literally right above where they literally went like pillow, wool, bathroom. I was like, I can't, obviously I can't go to the toilet here and then it became a whole thing and then I ended up in A&E. A and E.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Well, it was like six weeks of not, yeah. I got hit by bus. What? What is happening? Sorry, she's a real attention speaker. I was talking for too long to you and you seem to be engaged. That's pathetic. Grow off.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I don't know why. Six weeks is too long. But you know that now. Yeah, I do. Yeah, no, the doctors were very clear. Do you feel more comfortable now? Like, pooing around her. I wouldn't, I wouldn't be like, babe, come on.
Starting point is 00:45:11 But like, but we. If it was like a special one. No, no, no. Like an event, you know? Jesus, no. You know you wait something out of date, let's see what happens. No, I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Obviously, I'm joking. Obviously, we're just having banter. Not joking. You and Samil would do that, though. I've never watched him shit himself. I'd like you to stop talking about this, please. Not on purpose. That is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 What is your husband? How long have you been married? Two years. Two years. Have you ever peed in front of each other? Pied or poo. Peed. Peed?
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah. Who? Well done. No. No, no, no. No. He's a big farta though. And I really can't bear it.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I'm not, I'm not a farty girl. I'm so sorry. I'm not a farty girl for years. Was? I was not. Until. I just, it's like I don't choose for it to happen. But when it does, it's not the end of the world.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I landed in Mexico. I got off the flight. It was long haul. And I sneezed and I fart at the same time. And now you're free. And they said, welcome to Mexico, please go home. I have to say it. But it happens, it happens.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And it's better to like not live with the fear of it happening. I'll say this. I, out of character for me, I actually find farts very funny. Okay. Like, hilarious. Genually very funny. But that is easier for me to say because my partner is female. So how bad's it going to be?
Starting point is 00:46:40 But I don't know. If I lived with a man, I think I'd be. like, is it really bad. They're just so loud and long. And does he do it on her? I think he's got problems. No, I don't think he does.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I did, like, they're like, like, dick and dom farce. Do I mean? Like comedy farce. Oh, wow. Bizarre. Sorry. Dick and Don's de bungal.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I feel like we should bounce it out and be like something good about your husband because that can't be the only thing he heard on this. And I'm sure he's listening, no doubt. But like, he can't be like, oh, it's good to be something.
Starting point is 00:47:09 No, he's really kind. Oh, God. gross. You made it weird. Why do you make it weird? I just was like, are they going to be like big dick or something? Oh yeah, yeah. Huge. Oh, okay. It has to be plausible. Do you know what I mean? I don't know what straight girls talk about. Does that it? Men are kind of people. Maybe I need to find a gassy guy. Yeah, gassy guy. Yeah. I don't think you want that. Well, I don't think that I've got a bump in my nose. I don't think I'll get everything. I'd get the top layer of I was using you now got a compromise. Yeah, that would be a compromise. No, never compromise.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Come on. No, but I've been doing that and I have never had a boyfriend and that's 32 years of not compromising. It's annoying. How did you meet your husband? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Is that an annoying question? No, no, no, it's not annoying. She's not very, it's not, it's very, no, we met, we had a, like, I was in sick form and he was in college and we had a Saturday job at Iceland. Fuck off. Stop.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Usually I say, I met him in Iceland and people are like, oh, Recovic and I'm like, yeah. Oh my God. Sure, sure. But no, I'm in the supermarket. You met when you were teenagers working in Iceland? Yeah. Was it your first boyfriend?
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah. You married your first boyfriend? Yeah. We're doomed. We're doomed. We're doomed. No, it's not beautiful. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I know. I know. And I've been saying that this whole time. Trust me. That's fucked up. That's so beautiful. No, that's wrong. But this is the two parts of my brain.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Have you at least taken a break? And like gone and, you know, have you had a summer? Have you had a gap? No, that's coming this summer. That was the old gift to each other. We were like, let's go explore. Good, good, good. That's so magical.
Starting point is 00:48:49 A Saturday job. I can imagine how fucking flirty that was. No, because I remember my Saturday jobs. We were so flirty. Like, if you fancied someone, it was like, looking at the rotor, am I going to be on with them? Exactly, exactly. The effort you put in to like doing, I was a receptionist,
Starting point is 00:49:08 but I was like, full hair and makeup. Ah, heels. I can't believe you met a teenager and you still like him. I know. Bizarre. That's wild. I think it's useful that like for the first three years of our relationship, like after we left, like, after we left Iceland. Oh, so you don't work there now.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I do, I wish I could. Great job, great job. Soon you'll be the face-up for this story. Really? Yeah, really good play. Also, there was when we did work there, they had an Iceland magazine. And there was a couple who met in Iceland who, married while we were there
Starting point is 00:49:42 and went around the staff room because they got all of their food from Iceland for the wedding for free and I realised that we fumbled it and we didn't do that for our wedding and we should have, we really should have some ghettos. That would have been if you explained to me that it was a long game to get the catering for free I'd actually be like fine
Starting point is 00:50:01 I get it. You would respect it more. But to think that you had that information that didn't do it and still married the guy from Iceland is wild to me. Also because Iceland's food range is like it's different from the other supermarkets. Everyone's like, all supermarkets are all the same. Iceland is the only place that I've seen that they do do the Heinz Beans cheesy pizza. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So the only ones that are like, we'll stock it, we'll fucking do it. Bring it on. Sorry, what is... Bring it on. Oh, I mean, if you like to explain it, it's pretty simple. Yeah, no, it's just that. It's a pizza base and the tomato sauce is Heinz beans in tomato sauce, like a pan of hines beans,
Starting point is 00:50:32 and then cheese on top, and then you bake it like a frozen pizza. That's disgusting. Yeah, no, absolutely. There's a lot of hybrid products. Is he eating these foods because it explains the farting? He's so loyal to it. No, I hope. No, no, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:50:48 If he's having that for breakfast luncheon tea, well he's going to have a gastric issue. Like, that's horrific. No, no, no, I promise you, he's not. He's not, he's not. Okay, the lady protests a little too much, that's fine. But what I was going to say, I feel like we were successful, our successful,
Starting point is 00:51:02 we're not, because that for the first four years that we got together, he was working away. Like, he was offshore, like on a boat. So we didn't really see each other for quite a while. And I feel like that's what's kept us going for the first four years. Okay, that is more intrigue.
Starting point is 00:51:15 No, like engineering. Oh. Yeah. Cruise. Like surveying. Imagine. Was he entertainment or a horse or student?
Starting point is 00:51:25 I like your only options were like a stage magician or the army. Yeah. Stage magician or killing. Exactly. That's so funny. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Okay. Well, we didn't bring you here to talk about your husband exclusively. It's just that I know that it's what straight women like to talk about. There's loads of other things
Starting point is 00:51:45 I like to talk about. Sorry, I know. What star is I knew you? I am a Gemini. Are you? Oh. Is that bad? I like them.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I think it's like the whole like all their two face. It just means you're able to adapt people in different conversations. Exactly. I think it's a positive. Like you're very adaptable but means that you might
Starting point is 00:52:01 always feel safe being your true self because you want everyone else to feel comfortable. But it's not two face. It's just, yeah. And ease with it. Oh yeah. Sorry,
Starting point is 00:52:09 she'll just too. You're welcome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. Can we talk about Star Sames properly now? No, I don't have the time. Or the, we've already covered charm braces. It's one of the other, I'm afraid.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Unless you've a mood ring you've brought with you. Oh, I've got a mood ring. I've got it brought it in by you know that you were straight. Damn it. We could have seen our mood. Exactly. And we'd finally know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Finally. But I have a question. So, because you, when did you start comedy? Two years ago, January. So quite. recent. That's very exciting. Are you enjoying it? Yeah, I am. Okay, the sweet innocence of use. No, it's so nice. I still enjoy it. I think we do. We genuinely do. We wouldn't be doing it still if we didn't. But you also, Helen informs me, are a book nerd. Yeah. This is very
Starting point is 00:52:56 exciting. Please explain. I wouldn't say nerd. Book nerd. Book nerd. I said like book cratten. Oh, yeah. And that's an important distinction. Book goblin. Read freak. Read freak. Yeah. I have a question about. A whore for the written word. The reason is I haven't found anybody else who's just finished the book that I've just finished and I was wondering if you've read The Beasting.
Starting point is 00:53:16 No, I haven't. I thought you were going to talk about burnt sugar because you said about it in another episode and I was like, I love that. Oh, did you love it? I'm so glad you did. Yeah, it's so, so good.
Starting point is 00:53:24 That was my second book of the year, but I've just finished The Beasting. Of this year? Yeah. Slay Catherine. Thank you. Nice. And it is,
Starting point is 00:53:33 burnt sugar cannot recommend enough. I also recommend Beasting, but it is one of those books because I pride itself. Like the thing that everyone loves about it is that it doesn't leave, it doesn't have a resolution. But I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:53:46 I hadn't read any of the stuff in advance. So I was just like reading, reading, reading. And then it was just like, huh? Literally like, no. What? Oh God, I would need to read this. I have like 50 questions.
Starting point is 00:53:59 What the hell are you talking about? I was, I, and the impact of it is, I have not stopped thinking about it since I finished it because I'm like playing at every scenario it could have been. What's the like the general gist? Yeah, what's the vibe? The general gist is you get a story from the perspective of all four members of a family.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Nice. Who have historical trauma that plays out in different ways. Love that. And the shift of perspective is actually quite monumental every character you go through. Like it explains a behavior that seems so unconsciousable or inexplicable when it comes from the other perspective. In such a way that you're like, they have so many secrets from one another. And it is sort of relentlessly like, what? Like, I hated a character.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And then they were queer, so I was obviously like, oh my acting. It's kind of cute if you're evil and gay. But it's also set in Ireland and set, specifically a lot of it's set in the historical society of Trinity, which is like where I did all my debating at uni. And it mocks and savages that way of thinking in such a incredible way that I really enjoyed. But it's a great book, great read.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Beasting. Noted. I love, I realize that my style of book is trauma. Like, do you read happy books or like devastating books? Oh, I can't do devastating. I've heard there's one that's going on. I can't, I can't. I go full devastating in the happier settings. Have you heard of a little life?
Starting point is 00:55:23 No. Oh, apparently it's just like ridiculous. First of all, that's so funny because that has been like the trauma book for about 10 years now. Oh, 10 years. It's honestly, no, no, as in like it's the one that people either have read or haven't read. It is trauma porn. But it wasn't a holiday for me See, I want that
Starting point is 00:55:40 You're eyes lighting up That's not right I loved it But my partner at the time was like I feel like I'm on holiday With a very recent widow Give me the vibe Give me the vibe
Starting point is 00:55:49 It is written by a woman About four men Who are all friends And as they grow up You get their history And their trauma and their stories But it is specifically There's a very heavy storyline
Starting point is 00:56:02 About abuse Trigger warning Yes! but it's so harrowing and there's quite a few unexpected turns but I probably cried from like page 200 to the end. It's a big book and yeah. Can I borrow one?
Starting point is 00:56:17 Oh yeah I'm sure I have it somewhere if it's not sodden. I'm sure you'll be able to find it as like it's a hefty guy. It's a hefty book. Oh boy. Yeah. I'm excited. Oh God. I read a book on holiday called like 10 minutes 38 seconds and it was given to me by a listener.
Starting point is 00:56:35 at like my gig and I was like and the back it's like it starts with the sex worker being found in a bin and I was like this will be perfect for the beach what perfect
Starting point is 00:56:50 winter read and I can read it when it's cold London and really depressing and then have it on the beach this is mad fun and it was like she gets buried in like this horrible grave
Starting point is 00:57:01 and like just this isn't a spoiler she's dead at the beginning of the book it starts with her as a corpse and apparently the brain can keep going for 10 minutes longer. Why isn't she getting out of the bit? No, no, fully dead. Fully dead. Is it a high up in?
Starting point is 00:57:14 Does she have no agility? And it's about her family and how she's banished from like a Turkish family. It's just sort of like, it's so harrowing. And I was like, ha ha ha ha. Oh, boy. That's fucked up. Yeah, that is fucked up. Yeah, be worried.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Like, I lean into it and then I started reading another book. That is good, but I got a bit disappointed because it's all about this sister who's missing. And I was like, oh my God, I wonder. when we're going to find it more about her sister, find her more about her sister. Turns out the sister was a chimpanzee. What? Yeah. I was like really emotionally involved with 100 pages being like, this poor girl, she's only five,
Starting point is 00:57:48 her sister's gone, she's got no idea where she is, no one's telling her. And I was like, I think her sister's dead, I think her sister's dead. No, sister was a chimpanzee. But wait, is the narrows are a chimpanzee? I don't think it's a farm. No, it's the little sister talking about her sister's gone missing and like no one in her family is telling her about it. And then she goes, oh, I should clarify something.
Starting point is 00:58:04 That's insane. Fern is a chimpanzee. Furn? Worst name ever for chimpanzee. Yeah, I completely agree. A terrible name for chimpanzee. They swing between ferns. No, they don't.
Starting point is 00:58:15 They know. They're wrong from the ground up. What are you talking about? Huh? They're not a vine. Oh yeah. What's a fern tree? It's a plant.
Starting point is 00:58:23 It's like a potted plant. It has like tiny leaves all the way up the leaf. Yeah. What's a fern? Fur tree then. It's different, isn't it? A fir tree is a different thing, yeah. But you also wouldn't swing from that eye.
Starting point is 00:58:34 That's like Christmas tree. No, yeah, you wouldn't, would you? No. Neither work, really. It burns like an indoor plant. Yeah. So not for the chimpanzee then. I and I assume every single other person in the world called there.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I'd like to apologise to Leah. It's a bad thing. Did you see this new gorilla born though at London Zoo? No? No one else is following this account. I'm going to go to London Zoo tomorrow to see the new baby gorilla. Is the baby gorilla? Yeah, the new baby gorilla got born at London Zoo.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I'm going tomorrow. What's it called? I don't know yet. You're going with your sister? No. But she does know that I'm going without her, which caused a bit of a breakdown this morning. Oh, nearly all right.
Starting point is 00:59:13 We've gone for Sir Neil Patel's 43rd birthday with a couple of the boys. We've all got two for one tickets. Me, Patel, Jordan Bruxie, Neil O'Rourke, Nathan Darcy Roberts. Why are we doing first name, surname for everyone? A.K.A. the crew. Yeah, we're going to go out of Zee. Oh, wait a minute, please.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Why are you going on that, like, a stensile? possibly boys' trip. Do they need it to even the numbers out? Yes, I need you to figure that one. Oh no, oh no, oh no. So what else have you been reading? Oh, that gorilla. I mean, anything else good this year?
Starting point is 00:59:54 Ferns, Fern Brady. I call my Fern Fern, Fern Brady. Read her book very good. Oh, was it? Oh my God, it's so good. It's actually astonishingly good. It's so funny. Oh, how annoying that you can be that clever and that funny.
Starting point is 01:00:04 as well. Her book is profoundly smart and so well observed and fucking hilarious. It's also devastating. It's great. It's really fucking good. And it's honest in a way that is just brave and insightful and fucking useful for the world.
Starting point is 01:00:22 It's great. Last year female colleagues like Lou Sanders and Fernbrady's books coming out was just like fucking amazing. I love that. I truly I think about it all the time. It's so good. Yeah. Okay, on my list as well.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Can I ask you a question? Go on. This is what I think is most interesting with book readers. What sort of style of reader were you as a teenager? Can I guess? Yeah, go on, guess. Meg Cabot Princess Diaries. Damn it!
Starting point is 01:00:49 Quite, not quite. But similar vein. Oh, you know the breadwinner and the kite runner and stuff like that. No, oh my God, no, no, no, no. I was not that. No, I wasn't that emotionally available or intelligent. But I was more like, oh, the ones that Grace Dent did, Diary, oh my god
Starting point is 01:01:05 It was like Of a girl Of like a wimpy teenager No No I know Secret Diary of the Cool David Williams
Starting point is 01:01:13 No it was like Diary I think it was called Diary of Chav Which is quite problematic now No I say it Is it Grace Dent Is it Yeah
Starting point is 01:01:24 Dari of Chav Trainers versus Tiaras Too Cool for School Oh God Too cool for school You want to put you're too cool for school Trainers versus Tiarras Is that how you find it
Starting point is 01:01:33 you're gay or strays. That's hell. That's it. Yikes. And Angus Thongs and Perfect Snoggins. Oh yeah. We all get that. We all of those.
Starting point is 01:01:45 It was like Robbie, the sex god. He was everything to me. Oh my God. And to all of us, especially when cast as that beautiful, beautiful man who then married that very older director, right? Much older, yeah, yeah. That was very exciting.
Starting point is 01:01:59 The guy you played Robbie the sex god, Aaron. Aaron. Arringtona Johnson then married a much older woman Sam Taylor Wood M knows this shit like inside out
Starting point is 01:02:10 I saw them in Soho recently actually very hot couple very hot couple Okay I mean good for them But yeah it was all very exciting She's like the same age as her daughter I think
Starting point is 01:02:19 Like it was so hot at the time It remains hot and cool Because it's feminist when women do it Exactly Perversed when men do Noted Noted I used to watch that film Every night for a while
Starting point is 01:02:30 In like year 10 And year 11 every night for better I used to watch it Doesn't Angus songs And it's the one DVD you have But wait Doesn't Angus songs Doesn't the girl who played the lead
Starting point is 01:02:39 Doesn't she, isn't she now mother to Rupert Grins? Yes Oh my God That's so right You're right Uh huh Aha teenage overlap
Starting point is 01:02:47 Yeah She had a baby with Ron Weasley Yeah And then Juno from Spy Kids Junie Yeah He's had babies with Megan Trayna Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:56 Inside Huh? Isn't that crazy Wilde Whoa They got very cute child together. Oh, they've got the two cutest kids.
Starting point is 01:03:06 One was called Riley. I know too. How do you know? She's big on TikTok. She's big on TikTok. She's really big on TikTok. She's really for me. But yeah, she is big on TikTok.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I don't know why I really like her song. Apart from one. Megan Train. Which is about how much she loves her mom. And it's just like, you might have a mom. She might be the bomb, but ain't nobody. Got a mom like mine. Oh.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Horrible. Is this the one that Chris Jenner's in this video? Yeah, yeah. Why do I know they? Because that was an episode of the Kardashian. But inside the song, Mum, she does like a phone call with her actual mom calling her, I just miss you so much
Starting point is 01:03:41 and I love you. And her mom's like, I love you to the moon and back. No, fuck all. And I'm like, fuck that noise. She's, yeah. Helen's relationship with their mom's real good. So, hey, here's our actual question though because we're going to have, what we do on the show,
Starting point is 01:03:55 I'm sure you know, is we have listener problems in. Yes. But before we get to that, what kind of advice giver do you think you are? I am the kind of advice giver that will be scared by your Gemini whatever makes the best happy oh really yeah I'll just be like whatever you think is right for you please and I'm very and I just I just I don't know I'm not I'm not very good I really really
Starting point is 01:04:21 hate confrontation like confrontation is not my bad but both of those things are true of me weirdly I almost always say what I think they want to hear and I'm petrified of conflict like I can't be confronted. I'm horrible at conflict. I'm definitely felt confronted by Catherine. No, you have not. Many times. We have never had conflict.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Literally about an hour ago, I told you I got hit by a bus and he screamed at me. Because the bus store is caught off her arm and she thinks that means she got hit by a bus, did she? No. Actually what that was.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah. Yeah. So you were right to ignore it. You're going to Mexico March, right? Careful of the buses. Yeah, specifically the door. And the raccoons. And they're almost like the racoons have rabies.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Do not feed them crisps. Probably wouldn't have. Yeah. You say that, but you haven't seen them yet. That's very cute. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I don't think they are. I don't think they are. So, okay. So you say what you, but okay. Do you have any of siblings? Yeah, I've got an older brother. He's seven years older than me.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yeah. Okay, so you're not even being come to for advice. No, no, no, no. Interesting. Who do you go to for advice? I do have a close group of friends. There's like seven of us and we just don't argue either.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I'm some girls? No, but school girls. Yeah. You're exactly who I think you were. No, not really. Ever? No. They've never like, you've never once been like,
Starting point is 01:05:42 just fuck off. Not even as two ages? In my head? Honestly, not really. I'll be like, this is the only way you make friends that you. Mask it, mask it, mask it. No. No, that's awful.
Starting point is 01:05:54 No. My best friend from school has sent me out before. Like, been like, no, you go to the garden now. I can't even look at you. Who's that? Emma Black. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:03 In lockdown at one point she just went, huh, you're always here! I hope that was your reaction as well. Just like, yeah. I was like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:13 you know what, I'll fucking give that to you and she was having a rough day because my friend, like, came over and like threw some donuts up for me but didn't buy her one
Starting point is 01:06:21 and she was like, took it as an attack. That's insane to be that upset about that. Yeah, Lynn, remember that time the cookie got sent to Seneal and you argued it was. It was 50% mine.
Starting point is 01:06:30 and you know it was. I'm just saying that you might understand where Emma's coming from. Yeah, and she's since yelled at Eddie Hare about three times about it, so I reckon she's got her. Okay, good. Well, it sounds like he was a real dick about it. Okay, so then let's see you, people pleasing. Okay, yeah, go for it.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Go for it. I'm going to try and be really honest. I would be so proud of you if you could be. Okay. This is going to go slow cutting. We can't answer first. We have slightly so that we can actually hear her opinion, and she's not just nodding and agreeing with us.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Shit. Yeah. That's my plan foiled. Okay. So this is from Jay. Hi, Jay. Hey, yeah. So basically, I met this woman a few months back and instantly liked her and kind of got the feeling she liked me back.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I'm a queer sister woman myself, by the way. So one night, a bunch of us ended up at hers. She was making eyes at me, et cetera. So I ended up staying at hers that night and we made out. Yes, Jay. But, well, made out, et cetera. So put what you want in that, et cetera. Fingering.
Starting point is 01:07:28 So two straight women are like, we don't. No. You went fingering and lead us on her breath, went, Hello. I bet they did say hello, yes. Et cetera. Et cetera. Hello, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Next. But the next morning, she didn't remember anything. Always a great start. So later that week, she texts to say she just wants to be friends and I'm a bit hurt, but okay. Then she starts messaging me loads, like all day with photos and then a couple of other times. We end up getting drunk, making out a bit. and she breaks it off saying all the reasons
Starting point is 01:08:02 we can't be together and then again can't remember anything the next morning during this time I start developing strong feelings of her because when we're not shit-faced
Starting point is 01:08:09 we get on really well and she's really sweet for a while even though I know it's not great what's going on I just don't say anything about how hard I find it but eventually one day I break
Starting point is 01:08:20 I ask her what's going on with us she says she doesn't know she's sorry she gets so drunk she needs time to think about it and that we shouldn't text for a week she then says after the week that she just wants to be friends. I say, okay, but let's not get that drunk
Starting point is 01:08:33 and make out because that's always confusing for me. Yeah. And she agrees. Now, though, we have... Sorry, Andrew, when was this email sent? Recently. Mm-hmm. Okay, go on. I just want to check where we are timeline was. But go on. Okay, so now, though. Now...
Starting point is 01:08:50 That recently was so awkward. Yeah, that was like... Recently. Is it within 223? Anyway, so now... We have got to get better at answering these. Go on, Jay's probably moved countries by now. This woman's been sat in a well. Anyway, we haven't got drunk for a while,
Starting point is 01:09:12 but she's still messaging me all the time. Oh! Like a good morning message every day. She's dragging you along. Sorry, I know. I don't message any of my friends like that. And whenever I go on a date with someone else, she keeps bringing up all the time
Starting point is 01:09:24 saying how I must be in love with them. And I don't know. I guess I'm okay with being friends because she's a lovely person, but sometimes I feel like I'm getting mixed messages and that kind of messes with my mind because I do really like her. Am I just making this up in my head?
Starting point is 01:09:37 Do people really text their friends just all day, every day? She is the one initiating these messages. I'm not exactly sure what to do about it. Help me out, trusty hogs, from Jay. Leah, you have to go first, and I know there were a lot of signaling cues from Helen. We can cut out.
Starting point is 01:09:56 That's maybe sick to myself, sorry. Um, I, I'm so, Jay, I'm so sorry. That sounds horrible. And I think you're being actually mugged off here. And I don't think that this person is right for you at all. I don't think that is she, does, as a person definitely also quit? Like, or was that an element of it? Like, they're getting drunk to do it.
Starting point is 01:10:17 One second. I've just moved it to a different problem. Because that's really, I just, it seems really disrespectful. And especially if you've been honest about your feelings, that's horrible. Jay, you deserve better. You need to... She... No, she's...
Starting point is 01:10:30 No, not explicitly so she is queer. Yeah, okay, cool. Well, that's insane. That's so horrible and I'm so sorry, Dave, that's happening to you and I think you need to cut it off. That's insane, right?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Helen. Bang on! Right! Bang on! This is fucking bullshit. That's horrible. I hate the dragging along thing because when you start falling someone
Starting point is 01:10:52 and you're in love with them and then they sort of like, they'll make out with you or you'll spend the night together, but like they'll just constantly be like but I can't do a relationship like it's just friends but they're just dragging you along so they're getting everything they need they've got someone who loves them got their back 100% and not committing to you and it's harder and harder to get out of this like I think it's fucking awful and that texting thing is insane like I know
Starting point is 01:11:16 a friend of mine like a queer friend of mine who had this with a couple of girls but they be like their messages were insane like I'm talking like thousands and thousands every single week just constant communication but this girl would not come here like would not like it's just sort of like oh my god you're taking up all our headspace okay why are the queer women in the room laughing is this just a normal thing
Starting point is 01:11:37 yeah but aren't your fingers tired more than hours would be we have stronger muscles in our fingers here's what I would say is what I would say is
Starting point is 01:11:53 no I got it I got everyone got it finger gunning and texting no we got it we got the joke you don't yeah yeah here's my thing
Starting point is 01:12:01 I think it is common but it doesn't mean it's okay I think what I can do is have more empathy for the other woman if she is struggling
Starting point is 01:12:10 with realizing she's queer and processing that based on having met you you're giving her and out she's not no no no I'm not actually wait a second
Starting point is 01:12:18 to me that explains her behavior it doesn't make it acceptable so I think that actually if you enable it and are like that's fine. I actually think that's how
Starting point is 01:12:29 she learns to treat other women and I actually think that you have to be like oh you can be figuring out your queerness you cannot use me as an experiment and you can't pretend queer women have less feelings because... That's what the L word for you will watch that and figure it out. You know what I mean? But also I do think there's a degree to which like
Starting point is 01:12:44 it happens very very often and it's like okay to be like hey it's actually yeah it's so difficult to work out your sexuality it's also tricky to come out but what is not acceptable is treating me in a way that I wouldn't tolerate from a person who was comfortable with their sexuality because that still has massive consequences for me. So I think it's not going to be boundaries. I also think, I hope you've said at this point one of two things. Hey, seems like you like me. You want to get
Starting point is 01:13:08 on board with that or would you like to talk to me less and have a normal friendship? Because you disrupting all of my dates as well. So that's just toxic. I love that. B. Hey, guess what? You really fucking fancy me. Yeah. Surprise. Surprise. Surprise. You're texting me all the time and you kiss me when you're drunk and then you pretend you can't remember it or you can't remember it whatever. Babe hello you fancy me and that's cool that's fine. Or set up a camera that they don't know about.
Starting point is 01:13:33 No I don't think filming people when they're drunk. No it's not a crime. No I don't think it's nice. If it's a personal use if it's a personal use it's not a crime. I don't think so Helen. I have a newspaper that they're holding up. I think we're all on the same page except that I do have some more empathy for the fact that it is. It's so
Starting point is 01:13:52 confusing but it doesn't mean you can treat people terribly while you figure it out it just doesn't can we get to the crux of this problem then how many text messages is acceptable between someone that's a friend during a day and someone who you fancy i fucking hate texting so i have to want to have sex with you if i'm sending more than 10 replies over a day and the 10 replies are like you have an emergency yeah i'd say like four yeah i hate texting close friends just just get on the phone why we even Yeah, yeah, yeah, always, always the phone. Why don't we just FaceTime? This is wild.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I always want to be on the phone. And also FaceTime, she can't say she can't remember. I mean, like, if you're seeing it face-to-face and you'll remember. Yeah, it's like, we actually have something to discuss. What about you? Do you like texting? No, I do not like texting at all. I do, I do not like texting.
Starting point is 01:14:40 But I will say that dating women is committing to texting a lot. I'd say, like, lesbians love to text. I truly have had to, obviously there's an age gap between me. my girlfriend of five years and at the start she was like what is up with you like she just not like want to talk and I was like no I just call me and she was like what? She would see that as like a violent attack I'm like call me why would I
Starting point is 01:15:04 cannot text this much like I cannot I can't do it do you still think of texting as as much effort as it was with Nokia 30 through 10 you had to like go through like three hits and let me say this if I see a voice note no you send so many voice notes I know what I hate receiving them. I love to say them and I hate to receive them.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Why? A voice's not there. I love to give my hate to receive. I got a notification at 5am in Mexico from Catherine's going. That's a tiny difference. How do you like to have you scorn? That was important. That was for content.
Starting point is 01:15:39 That was important. Thank you for listening to the podcast and thank you for backing me up. And I heard it on the podcast. I was like, yeah, it's really early in the morning. Obviously I'm asleep. How do you like to have you smile? Also, it's cream first. That's what she said.
Starting point is 01:15:51 You're all fucking animals. It's the butter. It's the dairy. Wow, you guys are gross. The jam's the spread. I agree. We're not doing this too after a day. I agree.
Starting point is 01:16:02 We're not doing it. Where can people find you? Can I just say just before we finish? You just said about buying people things. I've also bought you guys something. Guys, you're funny on the floor. Yeah, it's just. Stick it on the shower and then
Starting point is 01:16:23 No, it's a pig gift A little hog, a little baby hog It's a chest of a hog Sorry that she just grabbed it out of your hand No, no, that's fine That is so nice of you Not everyone brings us gifts And I don't think they should
Starting point is 01:16:35 They should This is so nice of you That's insane I can't believe this actually exists Oh my God Don't touch it with your fucking fingers I was trying to avoid touching it With my fingers
Starting point is 01:16:47 Catherine Gathex-I have watched you wipe your nose So many times during this podcast. Oh my God, that's an actual full chocolate pig. Yeah, right. It smells amazing. Is it flavored?
Starting point is 01:16:58 I think it might be like somewhat. Raspberry. It'll be a raspberry flavor, will it not be? A giant, pretty pig chocolate, but it's a nice. It's a nice. No, I think raspberry sounds nice. No.
Starting point is 01:17:08 It's piggy. It's piggy. Oh, it rips. You ripped it. It takes two to rip. It takes two to rip. Have a moment. Catherine gripped it.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Thank you so much, Lee. That's so nice of you. With a strong. Her grip so hard on it. My fingers don't rip. Those fucking fingers, texting them finger with her fucking rip. Helen, what do you say to our guest?
Starting point is 01:17:30 Thank you for my gifty. You are. And our gifty. And thank you for coming. It's been really, really fun. Thank you. We're from what our listers find you. On Instagram at Leah Davis.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I follow you on Instagram. What about, can't they hear you? Oh, yeah. On the radio, yeah. 10 p.m. to 1am. 1.m. 1 cap a lecture. That's so fucking cool.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Thank you. That's so cool. It's fine. I put on Capital Extra in my kitchen all the time. Oh. What I'm cooking. Oh, you should have at 10pm. A bit nice.
Starting point is 01:17:57 10 p.m. Yeah, I don't intend to cook at 10 p.m. That's so cool. What a badass shift? That's nice. What kind of music do you guys? Hipop and R&B. Nice.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Very exciting. Favorite R&B song. Oh. What? You can't just ask that at the end. That's a crazy question. Rihanna are unfaithful though? Is it?
Starting point is 01:18:14 Is it? Oh my God. The Matt Cardo thing. I can't. I can't. I just get more flashbacks. grabbing her hip and just being so aroused. Do you remember Kelly Rowland when she really stole the single?
Starting point is 01:18:29 I love that song. I remember the tears I shared. Yes, I do. That's my favorite. That was an amazing time for R&B. There was like a couple of years and the noughties where it all just went to. Life was stole.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Oh, oh. Emma will never know. And the budgets, the budgets just were never, I know. They were just throwing money in these videos. Isn't that when they released the video of Nellie and Kelly doing dialer. and like he's supposed to be sending her a text
Starting point is 01:18:54 but like phones were so new and texts were so new that he's actually writing the message on Excel yeah yeah yeah yeah they've put it in like like a transformer incredible I love R&B thank you so much for doing this
Starting point is 01:19:05 we really appreciate you Leah Davis everybody Helen huge news is the executive lunch feeling a little fuller to you today is it probably because we've got another executive producer
Starting point is 01:19:18 hey! Thank you thank you thank you Thank you. Thank you to Simon Moores, Guy Goodman, Mary Fox, Annie Turner, Sarah Deacon, Oliver Jago, Anthony Conway, Matthew Thomas, Madeline, Quinn, and our new arrival, Grace O'Reilly. Is that Irish? That's got to be. Surely. Religious first name, I don't know. Hello. Don't mind if we do. Hey, thanks so much for joining us, guys, and thank you for all your support. We genuinely couldn't do it without you. How do you say, thank you again. Girl of Mahogah. Girl of Mahogah. Girl of Mahogah. Girl of Mahogah. Girl's mug. Nope. Got further away. But thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:19:51 And then also to our producers and the producer loud. We got Richard Bicknell, L, Richard Bold, Sadie Cashmore, Zoe, Rachel Page, Helen A, Abby Warfleuk, Bright, Kate. Oh my God, do I need glasses? No, we can't do this now. Dean Mitchell, Anthony, Sophie Chivers, Carrie Sooth, Carrie Soothe, Sueve, Victoria Hutchinson. Please, everyone, please, please, please let me try. Becky Fox, Tim and Dom, Ria Fink, Cordelia, Amy O'Ree. Weirden, Matt Sims, Tristan, Tass, Stephanie Katratia, Charlie A, KC, Anthony.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Tass, who just sent us all against? Wait, are there two Anthony's? Anthony, you get two shout-outs. Congrats. Haley, Worf, Claire Owen Jones, Harold Van Dyke, which always makes me smile. David Walker, Jess and Nick, Rachel R. Neil Redmond, Sarah and Molly, Tina, Lindsay, Gwaya, Marsh, Leah Overend. overend. There's a joke in that. I'll think about it.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Liz fought like over and like, yeah. Something with like an ass, maybe. Or a boat. We'll work it. I'm sure she's never heard it before and definitely gives us her money so that we'll mock her like she wasn't at school. Leah, let us know if you've got a good one for us. Clow, Emily G and Goza. Shut the fuck up. Goza, is that like short for Godzilla? No.
Starting point is 01:21:12 That can't be. He's just got a film out. He's busy. He's not listening to podcast. But maybe he's flush and he wants to spend it on his favourite podcast. Gozah. Okay, is Goza, are we thinking, like, a really fun non-binary person or a lad from Essex who's got a nickname from school that they've never got rid of. And madly into us. Oh yeah, you're right. I'm Gosser. Don't ask why. Oh my gosh, so fun. Thank you all so much for supporting the podcast we really couldn't do it without you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And remember that, yes, I struggled with the names today, but that's because we're, we've had a break.

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