Trusty Hogs - Ep141. MAILBAG SPECIAL / Tombolas, Teaspoons and Taylor Swift
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Hi Hogs, it's me, Catherine Bowhart from Trusty Hoggs.
You get it now, you know me.
Hey, guess what?
I'm doing a six-part radio series, and it's every Friday night at 6.30,
so they're letting me have the big spot.
How exciting.
The show is called TLDR.
I did a pilot for months and months ago,
but they need an audience, basically, for all six weeks,
and I'm worried that it'll just be the radio for elderly people.
So if you could take your youthful selves to the website, sRO audiences.com.
Please, I'd really appreciate that.
and you can put in a code hoglet, H-O-G-L-E-T, like a little hog.
Isn't that cute?
And then you'll get priority access to the live shows.
They've recorded every Thursday night for six weeks in a row
from the end of July to the start of September,
so there's two in Edinburgh as well.
Basically, I'm doing a show called T-L-D-R
and you can get tickets as a guarantee
if you're a hog listener if you put in hoglet.
And I love it if you were there,
otherwise it'll just be me and the poshner,
who I'll be very grateful to see as well.
Welcome to episode 141 of Trusty Hoggs.
We are dressed for the summer today.
It's so beautiful.
Do I smell that?
No, you smell like summer.
Do you remember last time we had a problem from C and now I'm paranoid?
Don't.
I'm paranoid.
No.
It's all I can think about.
No.
I hope that her boyfriend's okay and I'm like, oh God, am I a smelly?
I'd never smell you.
Why?
Full stop.
I just, you just don't like.
Okay, well, I'm stressed about it, but anyway, yes, I'm basically, I'm basically naked.
I'm wearing the thinest dress.
I own.
Can you see my nip?
Well, I always can because I've got one of those brains that are just sort of like
pulls in the gaps.
Do you know what I mean?
First thing I said to Andrew today, do you remember?
Yeah, you can see my bold.
He was like, I'm wearing shorts and I'll like, I can see the bold.
Oh my God.
I could see it, but I didn't say it.
Well, you've got to.
What you've got, let him know.
Let the boys know that you've seen it.
No, I don't think so.
Let them know that you've seen it.
It's registered and say thank you.
Well, I didn't mean to see it.
You're welcome.
We were outside and I sat on the curb.
A wonderful package.
I don't want to talk about this anymore.
Tell him he's got a wonderful package.
Andrew is a Kendall and I don't want to think about it beyond that.
Through the fog, step forth the trusty hogs.
Yeah, you're going to give me your problems and they will solve them.
Or maybe they won't and that's your problem.
They'll have guests.
and Andrew White on the tech
Oh, it's Helen and Catherine
And the trusty hogs
Trust the trusty hogs
Or maybe not
That's what I said
Hi, how are you today?
I'm so good
Yeah, the sun's out
Doesn't it change everything?
It's beautiful
I might walk home after this
How long a walk is it from here?
Probably like an hour
and 15 hour and 20 oh i love that for you in the sun yes in the sun i've got so much good stuff to listen
to at the moment when you're listening to well like okay it's a new
not another DJ yeah please please please please please but like I've also got like lovely
albums to listen to I'm finally getting back into Taylor Swift like Helen what oh my
what okay what so I have my first Saturday
night off and um i got invited to because my girlfriend was away and georgie's husband my
georgie my best friend my other best friends i already said um her husband was away she invited me
over for a sleepover we watched two films the next morning we get up it was heaven by the way
did watch two films oh thank you for asking challengers sexy er uh oh it's pretty weird to watch porn
beside each other and am i okay tigna taro's new gay film about a woman coming out late in life you'd
love it.
I haven't seen it by amazing.
Dakota Johnson plays gay.
Great.
But here's the thing.
I was loving the first 20 minutes it.
And then the theme of the gay show becomes friendship and you're like, gay film, you're like,
what?
And then nothing happens.
But it's hard to say it.
I feel bad plagging off a gay film made by a cool, queer.
You're not slagging off, which is not the narrative you wanted.
I'll obviously watch it again because there aren't any gay movies, but yeah, shame.
There are some gay movies.
Happy feet.
you're right you're so right um and then we ate dominoes and then um we slept in oh heaven
do you know adult women don't do that they do no no and then we but so shout out francis
quinneth and emma black the reason oh my god i can't believe they all share it about with you so um
they won't as they know you're a gay but panic well join the patron yeah so
oh yeah Helen came out oh listen to the patron um in the weirdest anyway your hair is fabulous
I can't focus now listen we went the next morning yeah to a spin class that was Taylor Swift
themed stop the era's cycle class and honestly it was phenomenal it was round by the most
homosexual man I've ever seen here's the thing I was beside I feel like every time you get
to an exercise class it's the most it gets gayer it gets gayer each time you're going to do a class
run by a feather bower like just
stuff by the poet in the wind and all the girl's like yeah what a walk out it feels a bad I will
totally sign up for that class no but truly so this guy was running this class it was like 40 straight
women and myself and georgie and the woman beside me was American and sang every single word of every
single song and it was honestly so hard I was hurting so much the next day it was so fun and joyful
and joyous and the time flew because if it turns out when you love the music everything's great
But 42 minutes into this 45-minute spin class.
45 minutes of spin.
This guy goes,
this is so random, but like,
I don't even really like Taylor Swift.
The mood turns.
It's still playing, but suddenly there's silence.
We're still sweating, but suddenly it's cold.
Just you can hear everyone's breathing.
Oh my God.
No one blinked.
There was just staring.
He, watching this man backpedal while he forward peddled,
was astonishing.
That was strong.
He completely imploded.
He was like,
ah, no, I mean, no, like, I'm more of like a Kendrick guy, but I, like, I love it.
And I, I'm loving it.
And I, no, I definitely, just like you are giving my exercise in the class ago.
I, I'm giving her a tap.
I, he just apologized for the next three and a half minutes and then everyone basically stormed out.
And it was the funniest thing I've ever witnessed.
And then we went to Sundays in Brooklyn, to get overbrides brunch.
And then we got pedicons.
It's an overbride.
It's an overbris.
price of brunch places and not a nice yeah lovely and um but like six pounds for a piece of
smoked salmon you know what I mean as a side and you're like excuse me what um and then we got
pedicures and like I got disco toes disco gold glitter glittery toes yeah oh my god that is such
a wholesome it was so wholesome it was so whole not the sun comes out and everyone just goes
more wholesome I went to Brighton just to have lunch with a friend like like always like
whenever I go to Brighton, it's like, I've got a gig in the evening,
so I'll either see, like, a friend, or I'll go, like, spend time with my sister and my dad,
but it's like, there's always a reason, and it was like a Monday, I had nothing to do,
and I was like, Alice, Alice, Alice, Alice, Alice, Alice, Alice, I'm coming for lunch.
I'm coming for lunch.
Wait, did she ask you?
She, well, she had to say yes, not going to my friend.
Alice Angel, I'm coming to lunch.
God, this bar really suits you.
It was so good.
I'm wholesomless back.
Did you go anywhere nice or go to her eyes?
mange two
what's that
it's really nice
it's just like
it's close to the station
and it's like a French
bistro place
and what did she
she had an omelet
and what did I have
these crab cakes
Devonshire crab
cakes and some
fries
French fries
they're fucking better have been
they better have been
they better have been
and it was bloody
gorgeous
read my book on the train
so I didn't have a gig to think about.
Like, I'm going on a holiday next week
and I actually can't wait to read my book.
I was just saying to you outside, my screen time,
I just got it this morning.
You know the way it wakes you up on a Monday with your screen time?
Yeah. Six and a half hours.
I'm, that's crazy.
I think that's where I'm at,
mine's for like Pokemon Go and my game week.
I don't talk about anymore.
Mine's just from emailing. It's awful.
Awful.
Anyway, I then decided I'm going to try to do
no phone and just have a nice time.
And I can't wait.
I can't wait.
Oh, and I made a beautiful meringue at the weekend
end with my edible flowers from the garden.
Who are we?
Summer girls. I will say this. I'm very jealous of your summertime bob because I feel like
I've chosen to grow my hair long and I'm thrilled about it.
But wow, wrong season for it. I'm so warm. And you just look like you're getting a lovely breeze
on my head. What I will say about the summertime Bob, I cannot just scrape it all up.
There's always hang down. Okay.
So like, you know, when you can like pile it all up either though because I hate how I look
with my hair on. I get the falling down. See, I look good down or up. I just got one of those
faces.
You do. God, you do.
Like, I'm just one of those women.
You are.
Like, try and make me look bad.
I couldn't.
Fucking.
Couldn't and I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
I've noticed something.
Go on.
You know, when you're with like a friend or like family or whatever,
you need like a group photo taking some takes photos.
Do you want to check it?
Are they okay?
And I always say, I can't take a bad photo.
And they always go, oh, ah!
And it's like, that's a fine thing to say.
Like, don't worry, I don't think of any bad photos.
I saw the single most, like, model-esque, beautiful woman on Instagram the other day,
being like, I'm a different.
like I'm a dermatologist and this is my little oh no like I'm an
ecstetrician she basically does like plastic surgery she changes women's faces and
she's like she does like she feels people's lips and stuff like that and she's like I
just want to say that you know when women come into me they're so beautiful and they're
for treatments to change their face and I you know I'm there to help them I're to enable them
I want to empower them but I also just want to say like they're there because they want
to look like how they look in photos and I just want you to know that like have you
ever taken a picture of a sunset and then looked at the picture and thought wow that doesn't do
it justice you are the sunset oh i was like but you your job is changing their faces
i love that no oh my god what have you ever taken yes it's like people film fireworks and it's
like it's not the same and we are the fire oh my god we're katie perry i'm a katherine wheel
you are a katherine wheel but do you ever feel like
Like a plastic bag, drifting through the wind, wanting to start again.
Like, what sort of plastic bag wants to start again?
Like, it's a grim life, isn't it?
As a plastic bag.
Like, you're born, no one wants you.
They're annoyed they're paying 5p.
They feel guilty about it.
Let's do this thing again.
Yeah, they don't throw you away, so you just to live in a cupboard somewhere for ages.
And then when they do use you, it's for rubbish.
So you're in a toilet bin.
Like, yeah, it's not toilet bins.
It is the worst life to live, a plastic bag.
Not the worst, but it's pretty bad.
I'd rather be a cup.
Just good chat, isn't it?
You want to tell you what's happening with me?
Please.
Everything has kicked off at Patel Bauer Towers.
Really?
Go on.
We've got a ghost.
No.
No, you don't.
One morning.
No, you don't.
One morning.
No, Helen, hang on a second.
Sorry.
A ghost has appeared in the summertime at your house.
Or Sonella is a compulsive liar.
I'm so far going for that one.
Go on.
Right.
He went.
We were waiting in the kitchen.
He went, where did all these teaspoons come from?
Because we've got six new teaspoons.
Like catering style, really flimsy.
You know, those like awful ones that like bend when you wash them.
The kind do you get at a hotel that you're staying when you're a comic?
Bidding.
And I was like, I don't know.
I thought you got them because we always like,
teaspoons are the first things to run out when we'd have them washing up for a while.
Yeah.
And it's like, okay.
I thought he got them.
and he was like, no, I didn't get them. Did you get them?
And I was like, well, no, you clearly got them because I know I didn't get them.
He was like, oh, I wonder where they came from.
And then he went silent.
And I was like, well, you got, just say you got them got them because this is now, like, pissingly off for some reason.
And I got so annoyed, so, you know, for like no reason.
I was just like, just say you bought them.
And he was like, no, you bought them.
And I was like, well, you brought it up.
You're the one that brought them up the conversation.
So then in a fit of rage, I go, well, if you didn't buy them, then they're curse.
I'm going to throw them away.
And I was standing over the bin with like six teaspoons.
And he was like, well, I didn't buy them because he was like waiting for me to crack.
So I put them in the bin just to like make a point.
I don't know what I was thinking.
I was in a bad mood.
And you said everything's kicking off and you have a ghost.
You meant you kicked off and went mad.
But he, I knew why didn't buy them.
So I knew he bought them.
And I was like, this is such a pathetic lie.
Why is he doing this?
And it was like, I was clearly.
Do you guys ever leave the house?
Just not often know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then he was like, oh, I didn't get them.
And I was like, oh, okay.
Then we left at like 10 minutes.
And I went back to the bin
and I got them out
and I washed them
because I was like,
that's really bad
to just sort of like
throw away teaspoons
yeah
and then I was like
just admit that you bought them
and I didn't
and then we were like
okay well Neil O'Rourke
was over yesterday
maybe he brought them as a prank
so then I call Neil
and Neil's like
your fucking mental
no I did not bring teaspoons
to your flat
and then me and to Neil
we both swear
we didn't get them
and it's got to the point
where I believe him
because it's like
my anger was so mad
that you would just go
okay you're fucking mad bitch
like calm it down
I bought them
I can totally see him
escalating
We've had six teaspoons appear out of nowhere.
And genuinely out of thin air.
No, you haven't.
We have.
Do we get him on the phone?
No, I don't care enough.
I'm just saying someone's brought me to the house.
No one has.
No one has.
No one has.
Or like from comedy clubs.
The only option is Neil O'Rock.
And he thinks I did it because I stole a teaspoon five months ago.
Okay, so you have form.
Because I was doing ADR and they brought me a drink and I had a teaspoon.
And for some reason I was like, ha ha ha, can I?
keep this teaspoon they went yeah and I went sleigh and I put it in my bag thinking I put it back
later and I didn't I took it home and he's like it's the same brand of teaspoon but I haven't
gone back to that place to do ADR so it's the generic brand that probably ever has you've probably
taken one from here you've probably taken one from a friggin I haven't stolen one from here
he's that we've got a we've got a ghost bringing teaspoon I don't think so because we thought we
had a knife appear after we got burgled because where did this knife come from and I was like I've got
no idea and he was like just the robbers leave it and I was like I don't know which feels
scary. So it could be the burglars back to leaving
different forms of coppers. Yeah but they didn't take anything.
Yeah but it could be like a threat. We've got a ghost.
A ghost who is bringing us silver
or a crow.
Do you mean magpie?
They don't give them back. No crows and ravens, they gather things
that they like you and they bring you gifts. Oh do they?
A hundee pee pee. A hundred p. You can train them.
Gwyneth's trying to train one at the moment in the park.
She wants to have a raven that brings her stuff.
Shout out Gwyneth Keyworth.
I feel like I passed out. Has this been happening?
the whole time this is a big event in my life what do you guys think is the reason andrew
i think one of you just forgotten that you've got teaspoons no but we haven't we haven't they've
just you know what fuck all of you my friends thought this was very exciting we were all are coming
up with theories getting at all of you of just looking at me like i'm some sort of freak
are friends the ones who train ravens in the forest yes she's trying to train it she hasn't done it
Yeah, it's on her vision board for this year.
We made manifestation boards together, me and Gwyneth,
after Christmas before New Year's,
and one of hers was to have a raven friend.
I guess I can just see how a woman who's into, like, training crows in the park
might have more time for your ghost spin theory.
Yeah.
And I'd say, I, a woman with, like, a job and, like, parties, like, stuff to do today.
Gwyneth's got a job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's in between jobs at that time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a good goal.
to have to be friends with a wild bird what a lovely thing to work on isn't she an eel
pervert as well she is an eel pervert as well yeah yeah but she's fine she's doing really
good she's doing well i didn't say she wasn't my friends are all doing like we're just we are a successful
group that's so cool who are just like thriving in our chosen fields we're getting see on teapids
that's what we choose to do yeah that's great i saw one from adr and teaspoons are a very nickable thing
You're only making the case for why you've definitely stolen them.
I agree with you.
Yeah, but I have not stolen these.
Have you said so?
I think between the two of you...
Why am I getting so angry about this?
Why does this infuriate me?
I didn't buy the teaspoon.
I never said you bought them.
I have a single message you about that.
No, but I've never said you bought them.
I think the two of you will have accidentally taken them from a couple of places
and now you have a couple more.
No.
And the fucking myriad of male comics that you have sitting on your...
or like sleeping over on your couch every now and I'll probably bring them to.
We've only got Jordan Brooks tonight.
Yeah, tonight.
But there's always...
There's always some clown in your house.
I'm not too soon.
Oh shit.
I just remembered we've got Jordan coming to stay and I have just stocked up the freezer.
What does that mean?
Like I did an ice cream shop.
But why does he need a freezer space?
He's staying for one night.
I did the...
No, no, but he will...
They might go into the freezer.
Because, you know, people are fucking morons.
Do you know about this?
Yeah.
Okay.
So people wait for it to be really sunny to go do that ice cream and ice lolly shop,
which is the thickest thing.
Right.
Because it'll be gone.
Yeah.
So you need to look at your weather app.
And three days before, go and stock up on everything.
So at the moment, I've got a box of bounty, ice cream bars.
Big thing of vanilla ice cream, bought a tub and a teller to melt and drizzle over the top.
I've got, Saneal's got his magnums.
And what else did I get?
Valencia orange ice alleys from Morrisons.
But if I had all these in, I just eat them all.
I know, I do.
Yeah, it's a real problem.
Yeah.
I would binge.
Yeah, no, me too.
yeah it's tough yeah so your concern is that they'll have one of them while you're out
no two inch minimum two inch yeah yeah they'll just assume they're alive have you not
have you not seen men and ice cream I have to say that's not I'm something I wish it's a stereotype
it's Andrew I I um we got a magnum three box because it was cheaper than me and my friend
buying one each yeah so I just had two magnums in a row yeah they're out of control yeah and I've got
a binge eating disorder and I think that's disgusting
It's gross. It's gross. That is minging.
One and a half. Come on.
I once pounded two loaves of bread in an afternoon, and that for me is too far.
Were you putting anything on the bread? I shouldn't be asking anything on the bread.
Anything on the bread?
Yeah, like butter. Anything, yeah, like a jar of peanut butter to go alongside it.
Because if you get rid of all of it, it never happened.
What kind of bread? Healthy, healthy mind.
I'm asking all the wrong questions, but what kind of bread?
Oh, just like cheap sliced bread.
Really? Not even like a tiger life?
No, you're punishing yourself at that point.
And also a tiger life, very tricky to binge because it's got, um,
A very, like, tricky crust, and you might cut your gum.
You ever cut your gum on bread?
You're a complex woman.
I'm a very complex woman.
But I'm thriving, and that's what matters.
And it makes me think, wait for this segue.
You ready for it?
You braced?
And it makes me think, whilst I'm thriving, a lot of our listeners, you guys aren't.
That's no one.
You're not thriving.
Some of them are.
Excuse me, Helen.
Excuse me.
Some of them might be.
I wonder how we'll find out.
Let's hear some updates and problems for what is supposed to be a mailbag special.
How long have we spoken for?
That's on me.
That's on me.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
It felt like two hours, though.
Don't worry about it.
Hey, oh.
Andrew, do we have...
I'm kind.
Sorry.
It's just the spoon stuff really.
It's something to my brain.
You know where your brain like turns off?
Do you know what I'm talking?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, Andrew.
God, yeah.
Andrew, do you have updates to our listener problem?
I have several updates, one very, very recent and one a bit in the past.
Oh, how exciting.
We'll start with the recent one, shall we?
Yes, please.
In fact, I think it was only a problem about two, three episodes ago.
Right.
Can I guess which one it was?
Go on.
Yes.
Was it the one where they wanted to go on the Hindu, but the Hendu was so expensive?
Yeah.
But there was only like four of them or something left.
Yeah.
Oh, my last one?
Yeah.
Is that one?
Yeah.
What is the Hindu happened?
The Hendu has happened.
Oh my God, tell us everything, tell us everything, tell us everything.
Because we were saying our advice I remember was you should just say I'm coming,
but I'm going to sit out of the perfume making because that's outrageously expensive.
But I'll just be around the corner and then I'll rejoin you and no hard feeling.
Which, by the way, me, Emma Black and Ellie Sauter are organising and going on.
Amazing.
Yes. Yes, that was episode 139.
Sorry, tips that go.
Thank you for advice.
It was much more mature than I actually ended up doing.
Yes.
We're better than you.
we're better than you
we're better than you
the message with this podcast
we're better than you
that is our tagline
trusty hogs
we're better than you
I prefer
Michael Otto Wiley's last week
trusty hogs
the last resort
also fair
also fair
go on what do they actually do
and they say
I didn't want to put out
of activities
because then there would only be
three guests at the Hendo
so my friend T and I
decided separately
that would be happy
to pay and what activities would be happy doing then one of us will put a pre-prepared
message into the WhatsApp group and the other would immediately like it and add a message of
support we did this with every suggestion that was made the hen do went well i make em do this in
the trusty hugs group do you no i'm fucking with you guys i'm fucking with you relax oh holy
shit i'm going to go through all that later just have a night on
Count your spoons, go on.
The hen do went well, and the bride had a lovely time.
The perfume-making activity got dropped in the end,
thanks to our campaign, which was for the best.
When I told the bride what the original plan was,
she said she had very sensitive skin,
and most perfumes gave her a bad allergic reaction.
Slay for rushes.
Dillay.
Why have I said slay?
I don't approve of saying sleigh so often.
Helen was meant to give us five pounds every time she said,
I don't know if you remember that.
Wait, you are such a weird.
Weasel.
Why would you say that, you little fuck?
Like, Arthur I've been so nice about your bulge and everything, and then you're like,
Helen, we're supposed to give us five.
Shut the fuck up, Andrew.
Shut up.
I bet he's doing the fucking story, Catherine.
Shut up.
Shut up.
What was that?
Shut up.
Shut up, Bob.
Piss me all.
What are you like?
What's in your?
Sorry, Andrew.
Sorry, Andrew.
Andrew.
Andrew,
Andrew,
you shower your bulls
to make her feel better.
Ah, he did.
Homana,
homina, homo,
homo,
homo,
homo,
a,
Homano,
I just did a Sharon stone.
Congratulations,
race!
He just did
his full Sharon's tone.
That was so exciting.
And I saw
everything.
No, you didn't.
Those are
heavy cotton shorts,
everything's fine.
There's some big balls.
Oh, my God.
Come on, please.
He's a child.
Stop everyone.
He's gay.
It's up for you.
So am I.
So am I.
Sometimes one day.
Mm-hmm.
Go on.
We were a bit sneaky, but it worked out in the end.
Thanks, R.
I think they came up with a better solution than we did.
Immaturity wins, baby.
Immaturity wins.
But it's matured to have a friend and be like, hey, let's tag team in this WhatsApp group.
I'll put, because putting a message in a big WhatsApp group and not receiving support is tough.
Remember the Melbourne jail?
That was tough.
Yeah, it was tough.
Especially when I came and showed you to support and then you steal my videos.
online about how you were there by yourself.
I also did pay for Catherine's entry to that.
Yeah, because I didn't want to go, and I insisted that I didn't want to go,
but you kept making videos about how you were there alone.
Poor Helen.
And sending pictures of yourself outside alone.
No one wants to go.
Even when I'd already arrive.
My God, I can't.
Yeah.
We have another, very exciting long but worth the update.
Yes, please.
From T.
Long but worth it.
Andrew, you don't have to tell us.
That's the whole podcast.
Let me talk about something for 47 minutes, but there will or maybe might be a pale.
Okay, go on.
So this, I think we did this problem back when we were in the shipping container, so many moons ago.
Years ago?
Yes.
What was the problem?
It was a problem about realizing that I had feelings for my best friend of six years.
Okay.
And this is from T.
Hi T.
Hi again.
Wait, excuse me, that could be so many people who have written into us.
That is true.
They were, I'm pretty sure they were like six formers, like young teenage boys.
One of them was, the writer was definitely gay.
They didn't know whether their best friend was gay and whether they were,
a vibe or something.
What did we say?
I can't possibly remember.
Really good things.
Really, yeah.
I feel like you'll have said you have to say it
and I'll have been like, just leave it alone.
I think we would have also been that annoying thing that we do
where we're like, you're young, it's not that big of a deal that you think it is.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Yeah, that does ring a bell actually.
Yeah.
Oh, it doesn't mind it just do it.
First of all, thank you so much for your amazing advice.
Yes!
That was good here.
I was 90% sure that I was going to tell him,
but decided to take a few days.
days to thinking about it so that I could be totally sure that's what I wanted. During those
few days I came to the realization that this is not just a crush, I'm completely in love
with him. Immediately after realizing this, I phoned my mum in a panic over the revelation
whose brilliantly blunt response was, of course you're in love with him. Me and your dad have been
staying so for years. Yes, mom, come through, yes. Unfortunately, the timing of this
realization cannot be worse as the next night I had to go to my sister's birthday drinks,
which I knew my best friend had been invited to
I think of the university
sorry rather than before
I can't begin to describe
how terrified I was on her birthday
I arrived at the pub
which I only realised later
was the same pub we'd met in
at a pub quiz six years ago
right
or a small village
it's either a phase or a small village
took one look at him
and decided to back out of telling him
I pretty much avoided him
for the rest of the night
and he thought that I was ill
because of how nervous
and like, you know, avoidant I'd been.
I told my sister the idea of telling him how I felt
had become far too real,
and I was going to have to either bury my feelings or move abroad
or jump in a while, always an option.
Yeah.
Oh, my God, he needs a really oversteppy, gossipy friend
who just tells him for her.
Tells him for him.
Yeah.
I opted for burying it and spent the entire night
third wheeling a couple I knew from uni.
Obsessed with his energy.
He came over when I was ordering a drink at the bar.
and asked if we could talk outside.
Unfortunately, a fight broke out at the other end of the bar.
A glass was smashed and I looked down to realize that several shards of glass were in my arm.
It's taken a violent turn.
Wait, wait, an injury with someone to act to the protector can sometimes be hot.
No?
This is such a level of drama.
Okay, go on.
I'm honestly hanging on every word.
So shards of glass is arm.
Yeah.
My best friend took me to A&E.
Yes.
To get the glass removed.
Your dream situation.
Your dream.
situation.
Pity and sexual chemistry?
Whereas I would be like, do not look at me, do not look at me,
do not help me, do not help me, do not help me, do not help me.
I'm like, do not help me, don't even look at me.
I don't have a body, don't look at me.
Obviously, when charged a glass of being removed from your arm,
there is some blood involved.
Yes, there is.
I'm not a squeamish person, but the combination of stress about keeping my secret,
having a drink and now being in pain meant that the first light of blood made me faint.
and it's really like
your fucking dream
I mean
for anyone who's new here
I did do a stand-up show
two years ago
about how I was like
wanted to be a fainter
so fucking bad at school
I know
I thought it was the sexiest thing
like just like
oh no
and then like
yeah
I got you
just like lifting up
the ground
like so
one day
one day I'll paint
now
now a few hours later
I'm told that my arm
is free of glass
last and I can go home. Not that I remember much of the process because I've been in and out of
consciousness and on morphine. In and out. Oh. And I'm morphing. At this point it's about 3 a.m.
And we both are hungry. So we got food and sat in the hospital car park. Just as I was about
to suggest heading home, he turned to me and said, do you remember what you said last night?
There was about eight seconds of dead silence whilst I realized that I told the person most
precious to me in the world that I was in love with him on a gurney in A&E while some of
conscious and slurring my words.
I genuinely could not think of a single
thing to say, so we'd have sat there
in silence for about 20 seconds before
he told me that he's been in love
with me for years and hadn't
said anything for fear of losing me.
I'm so happy to say that we are
officially together and that I've never felt
more respected, secure or loved in a relationship
and I want to thank you guys very much
for encouraging me to bite the bullet.
Thanks so much tea.
It happened. I have goosebumps.
We had a happy ending. I have gooseby.
Baby gays
round of applause for the baby
oh my god
always get involved in fights and pubs
always
always run into it
oh my god that's so
cute I knew it if you faint
you fuck
it is a media
that you
sorry that is the sweetest
thing I've ever
heard
and it's all thanks to us
We did us.
It's all us.
Us and morphine.
We did a baby girl.
We did it.
Trust the Oaks and morphine.
Trust the Ongs and morphine.
That is the show I'd watch to be there.
It happened.
Oh my God.
I'm like moved.
You know, whoever you are, wherever you're listening,
tell them you love them.
Just go tell them right now.
I love you, Catherine.
Oh, what a beautiful story.
Do you ever feel like Alan Bartwood was like,
I love you?
Yes, I do too.
in a why.
So gorgeous.
Yeah, really sweet.
Oh my God,
actual full body goosebumps.
That was so cute.
Feel emotional.
Oh my God,
I'm so sad.
They're going to break up soon.
No,
I'm joking.
Oh my God,
I want someone
that I'm in turn all over saying
I love you or not.
And then they say that they love you.
They've loved you all along.
Oh, God.
I love that.
To like.
To Neil.
To Neil.
Oh, no, yeah.
Sorry.
To like go through all of that angst of like I'm in love with them like will I lose a friend
and then for it to work out is so special it's meant to be just like you and for me you really want
this to happen don't you oh I just feel like I'm disappointed me and I spoke to Anna Grant at
girls allowed and she agrees can I ask Catherine no because he's looking fire at the moment
his beard and his sunglasses um you and Anna Grant talking was my favorite thing of all time
You know, when you, like, turn around and you see, like, two really close friends who, like, worlds don't cross over, like, just having a really nice chat.
And you know it's about slagging you off.
Like, there's no other way to bond.
We actually weren't talking about you.
You just said you were talking about me into now.
No, yeah, well, we did that in front of you.
And also, my favorite moment with her was when she went, um, it was in front of you when she, you handed her a mint and she went, oh, no, your palm is way too sweaty for me to accept that.
But all my friends are fucking dicks, man.
I was like I get this girl
I know this girl I like this girl
I love Anna Grant
She's the best
She's the best
She's so she came to girls aloud
With all the comedians
She's excellent
She's a hero
She's an absolute hero
Andrew do you have another problem for us
For this mailbag special
Yes I should get a problem up
I was going to ask
Do you want Sineil Helen to happen
Because you think it's
The best thing
Or do you just not want to meet another person
Add another person to the friendship
Oh yeah do you think it'd just be easy
Because you know Sineal
I don't know Sineal
I think it would take like 50 years to know
Samil
Yeah you guys have a really specific easy relationship
It's like hey hey
Yeah
It's like what I would say is
No I think you guys functionally do exist
As a Platonic couple right
Like you yeah
Yeah I think in the same way
That like Charlie Serena Ellen and I are a family
Like we function as a family
Yeah
So but it's just always nice if
I guess I just
You see it
You can see it
I guess I see it
But I also just
honestly this is such a selfish reason one of less selfish reasons it's such a shallow reason
i think you'd have gorgeous children oh we would but that's kind of a crap reason but name someone
i wouldn't have gorgeous children with but particularly with senile i just think they'd be stunning thank
you thank you and we call all of them kathwin no you wouldn't but i'd love that little kathwin's
lots of katherine junior katherine jr july oh CJ i always want a t jay because i
like T.J. from recess.
That's perfect.
Trustee Jr.
So good.
TJ, trusty junior.
Trustee Jr.
Trusty Jr.
Do you ever think like the TV show recess
had the most insane names?
Mikey.
Gretchen, Spinelli.
Yes, Spinelli.
That was their surname, Spinelli.
Oh, was there?
What was their first name?
Oh, like.
Helen?
Ethel or something.
Ethel.
It was something very really like old,
old worldian girly.
Ethel is so back in.
Yeah.
Those beautiful old names.
Have you ever done that algorithm on
Instagram where it's just sort of like old baby
names that are coming back into fashion. Hello?
What names are coming back? I can't believe you sit around
googling baby names. I don't, I have to say.
I don't know how I ended up on this algorithm.
But it was like beautiful baby names that are back
in fashion. That's nice. And it's like
there's so many pretty names. That is nice.
And it always you just like you hear them all.
There's so many beautiful names, so many beautiful names. And you just
kind of have to think, oh, my parents chose Helen.
Like it's good. It works for me. But like,
I have all the options. That's the best.
Anna Michael. That's the best you could
do. Then again, look at their parents, Anna and Mike.
Yeah, my grandmother's name
was Annabella. Gorgeous.
I know, and she always went by Betty.
Why? Annabella.
Annabella's a tough one to put. If I was in Annabella,
six foot one more would be obese Annabella, you'd be like,
get out. No way.
She was a very slight woman. There we do. That makes sense
for an Annabella. She's five foot two, I'd say.
Five two.
But my mom's the tallest of my parents and she's five two.
My dad's five one.
So cute. It's so cute.
They're so loose.
little they're so little it's so sweet do you have baby names that you like no i've never
really thought about it never no no truly no truly no i've got some Ellen has some but
I don't think it's nothing I've ever thought about when I was younger I was like Jade is the
most beautiful name of the time stunning and I remember I won a bear at like a fair like a
tombola bear um or like my grandmother won it but i was like the one to pick the numbers
so i lived at my granny's house but i got to pick its name out of all of my that savage that she was
like this will live at my house but out of all of my nine cousins i got to pick the name and i called it
jade and was like oh jade just makes you think it's like it was jaded whoa it's the most beautiful
name wow okay i um no i once picked the lottery numbers for my grandmother who won 100 pounds and
then was like you will always choose my numbers
don't think we ever want to do you have a name you wanted to be called when you
were younger that you would like introduce people to on holiday when you
bet i'd have loved a bet i really love to be loved to be a best such a beautiful name
see my middle name's elizabeth so i always wanted a bet or lizzie
what you haven't the name is jose do you have a problem for us andrew yeah there you
go i liked annie and hallie from the parent trap
hallie's the best i'd introduce myself to people as annie or hallie on holiday oh my god
I was too busy going around
looking at other ginger kids
being like
and then being like
we don't look anything alike
can we be like
shaking hands then
like miming with long with it
and they're like what
and I'm like what
and we both like Oreos
with peanut butter
yeah truly
also it's like an Irish playground
so it was everything
the kid I was like
they gave her an inhaler
they were like she's got asthma
she's all right
she's just shocked
they did
you don't give her a
childhood asthma but apparently maybe I just was like ready Andrew I love it if you got
diagnosed asthma just because you were pretending to be in the parent trap site I was obsessed with
it and sister sister oh my god it was my dream oh the want to be a twin as a kid is so powerful
it's so strong but to discover your twin but every kid I mean when I wasn't wanting to be a twin I was
desperate to be adopted.
I wanted to be adopted.
Right? I was sure I was as well because I was the only red head.
My brother has dark hair, blue eyes.
My sister has a blonde hair, brown eyes.
Green eyes red hair.
I was like, what's going on here?
And they look like my parents.
And I was like, I think every kid goes through the space.
I think some of us like lean in more.
Yeah, some of us are like, desperate to be.
There's a twin out there and I'm adopted.
There's like a whole story.
Well, it makes sense that the two would go together.
You know, I once found something in my cousin of those kids that would go
my parents' rooms
whenever they went in
I was like I am leaving
no set on turn
I found every Christmas present
before Christmas
every birthday present
for my birthday
I knew my mum had
every Spice Girls Barbie doll
and because I knew
she never gave them to me
and she still got them
I think that's so fair
you stuck
I love that for her
I'd be like
you know what fuck you
no stone left unturned
in the Bauer household
can I just say I'm really with Anne on that
I really think
I was the worst
yeah and I also just think
something and like if you can't let me like spend my money to treat you and surprise you
then you're not fucking I was the worst I really respect that well I would not want to raise me
um just a nosy bitch and um I um found like you know like an envelope that's like for documents
like a big brown envelope and on it it had my birthday but for my 18th birthday and I was like
here's the fucking proof oh here we fucking I was like I was like I was like 11
right so I was like well there we go there we go I found a proof wait so they had an
envelope that was closed but to give you on your sealed sealed envelope oh come on that would make
my 18th birthday and I was like I fucking knew it because yes I do look like my sister now and
you'd be like oh my god that herons not related yeah but I didn't then she was like
but also sorry having freckles like dark brown hair if I think an envelope that said my birthday
my 18th birthday and I was 11 I'd be like okay so wow right and also like I know a lot of kids
think but it didn't feel like I fit in with the family
like I wasn't like in it like I didn't enjoy
the same things I was just like I was just different
yeah so I was like shit okay this is it
and I thought I waited probably I waited five years to bring it up
because I was like oh my god it's so much it probably a week
later I was like well I know I'm fucking adopted
I know that there's proof upstairs and I can't remember the
exact play out but I did open it like way before my 18th birthday
but it was just like it was just like two newspapers
and a magazine two newspapers
from the day I was born, so 25th of March, 1991, and like a magazine from the month that I was
born. And I was like, I think it might have been from like Great Auntie Lillian or like a godmother
or something. You're trashed. That's such a nice thing. Like just like a get, but I don't actually
know who is, I mean, they must have died before then, because I don't actually know who was from.
But yeah, it's cute. I still got some, like, I think I still got one of the newspapers and that's
quite nice. I don't think it was good news.
You're the worst. It wasn't like a great day in the wild. You're the worst.
but yeah
wow
but I was so sure
yeah me too
I was very very very sure
and also just like
it's so rude
and disrespectful and ungrateful
to just be like
I know I'm not yours
I just know it
I don't fit in here
and I know there's a twin
that you gave up
yeah I know that
oh I was sure I was a twin
that was taken stolen
yeah you stole me
yeah you stole me
or switched up birth
I was sure I switched up birth
do you think
that's like happening with this generation as much because we were such a like parent trap sister
sister yeah with our generation 100% the moment i saw t and tamara meet in that vhs store
question mark or second hand shop some sort of clothing shop anyway i was like um god that episode
man they knew how to rock a hat don't you think i wish there were more hats that matched your
outfits for people who aren't toddlers do you remember like their bedrooms as well was so cool
like every TV show and film in the 90s.
And the shared bathroom?
Hello.
The Jack and Jill bathrooms.
Oh my God.
And when Lisa made them their prom dresses
and then they fucking bought those horrible ones
and they wore them instead
and then they had to come back
and were like every went to their prom
and then everyone was wearing those dresses
and they went home and changed back into the ones
that Lisa made to them and oh my God
they looked incredible.
I'm sorry.
It was basically like
it was my favorite television show
I was obsessed with it.
Oh my God.
I think I was more like
mine as a vampire slayer.
Oh, interesting.
I was sister sister and Sabrina the teenage wick
I mean they were we didn't have Nickelodeon until I was 17
so we always had to watch them at our minders and I was
oh my god it was I just loved them you know I still don't know how they did
Salem quite frankly I don't think it's any of my business
I agree it's not my business I really think that's the case of mind your own
but I love Sabrina so much but like how did they do Salem I don't know
Like, how was that cat moving and talking?
It's incredible.
So in line with the dog.
Because cats don't chat.
I loved the PC game so much.
Because you had to find lint.
Lint.
What was lint?
It went in a recipe and a spell.
Oh, my God.
I think I had this.
I loved it so much.
Ellie Salter's younger sister, Francis Sulta,
had the Sabrina the Teenage Witch magazine subscription.
And you got like a sale on the cat and a box
so you got to fill with trinkets that you got each month.
Oh, my God, the dream.
That is the coolest thing in the fucking wild.
Yeah, iconic, iconic.
Did you think you were a witch for a while?
No, just a twin.
Emma Black did.
That's cool.
Caused a massive rift in year six.
What's the fallout?
Massive rift.
She was like, I'm a witch and I can cast spells and I can do things.
And I was like, what?
Because I was like, no.
But then all the girls were like, oh my God, us too.
And then she told me that the spell was a hot potato called Potato.
a hot potato, a cold potato, and that's what she was doing.
And all the girls were doing, they're like, we've got powers.
And I was like, well, I'm not a witch.
I don't have powers.
And then everyone was a witch.
And I was like, you're not witches.
And it was like a big thing.
I feel like this when I told you I was gay.
It was.
No, no, no.
And now you're trying to be, yikes.
Listen to the patron.
You got a problem for us, Andrew?
Our first problem, 44 minutes into this mailbag special.
Once again, I like to use this opportunity to say, Emma Black, you are not a witch.
I think you probably are
But also gutted the six-year-old
Me didn't jump on the bandwagon
It would have been the way funner option
It would have been the funner option
It would have been the funner option
Brimbrum beep beep
Motherfuckers
We're on tour
And you can get tickets at trusty hogs.com forward slash tour
We are going to Edinburgh
That is selling fast
Bristol's already sold out
Brighton selling fast though
Shocked to see the gay
I've sold it out faster
But thank you so much for coming
Why am I so ungrateful
and we're also going to Manchester
we're going to Dublin
oh that'll be swell
and yeah I'd say get your tickets
now if you want to come
because they're moving quickly
and we can't wait
I love love love a live show
and Helen will dance
even when I ask her not to
so it's going to be a good time
trusty hogs dot com 4 slash tour
Andrew any other thoughts
I know that's pretty good
great see you there
bye
Let's have a problem.
This is from B.
Hi, B.
B says,
Hi, Hogs.
Firstly, thank you for bringing me
so much joy since I discovered your podcast
earlier this year.
Trussie Hoggs is the first female
and queer-led podcast I've listened to.
Now I'm wondering what took me so long.
I'm obsessed with being queer-led
because I'm the only...
I'm the leader.
Well, no.
out of like the group of us that are calling involves three of you are queer yeah but that's not
what baby means be mean i guess be means bow down bitches we all know katherine who's charge like 100
but b welcome to the sty welcome to the sty how exciting i love hearing that we're getting new
listeners now isn't it i feel so excited by it because i feel like we are hitting our stride we also
always forget the people are just joining because every episode we're just like
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah but still welcome go on anyone knew i am helen i'm katherine hii we're both
stand-up comedians i'm gay and i'm the leader and we live in london england i'm queer
um katherine's queer i'm i don't know on a journey i guess oh my god hell on earth
oh my god do your journey in a different month this pride i'm not having this go on now i like
you're introducing yourself 45 minutes into this episode
46 minutes in a hangar old way and your boyfriend
have you had the experience yet of people referencing stuff
because they're going through the back catalogue
and he's like what the fuck are you talking about and it's like oh that's the thing
we've said yeah yeah happens every time and also um
being like people sending messages about something that it's like
oh that's two years ago yeah or like checking in about an interest that I know I was
obsessive about
but I do still
get hello fresh
in case anyone's
wondering
big fan
I am yeah
I still get messages
and again
be like
can we have a
pancake update
and I'm like
that hamster
is really buried
oh my god
she doesn't even live
in the house
it was buried
in any more
garden
question mark
okay ready
the B says
Helen I am
511
size 22 female
and have size
11 feet
so I relate
a lot to
your tool plus size girl stories and katherine your advice is always so thoughtful and well
crafted and i'm wondering if the two of you can help me we can we can't size 11 nothing will
stop us even if we can't we'll definitely try find me on instagram tell me where you're shopping for your
shoes size 11 i'm assuming wide fit i'd hope so that's a long thin board to balance on that's a long
thin board to balance on without a bit of give on either side i actually hope she's got more support yeah
I hope you're a wide fit.
Sorry, carry on.
B says,
My best friend of 20 years
has become a bit of a hoarder.
I never noticed this about her
until she got her own house a few years ago.
At first, I talked it up to her being a busy single mum,
but as the children have grown,
the pilees have only increased.
I love her unconditionally,
but I don't think I'm doing her any favours
by reassuring her that it's okay
every time she apologises for the mess in her house.
I'm also a single mum,
but I have more help for child get than she does,
and I want to help her, but I don't know how.
She suffers with anxiety,
and when I've tried to help her in the past,
by doing dishes and laundry, etc,
I can see how uncomfortable and anxious this makes her?
Yeah.
How can I tell her that I want the best for her and her family,
and I'm worried her home is getting out of hand?
I've always wanted to be a source of positivity for her,
and I don't want her to feel upset or criticized.
Best wishes, sorry.
What did you say best bitches?
Because I prefer that as a thought.
Sign off, best bitches.
Best bitches, B.
I actually know a bit about hoarding.
Do you?
I do.
It's a genuine, it's a mental health disorder.
It's a form of OCD.
It's, yeah, it's a, it can be,
there's like so many different levels to it
as far as, like, someone who needs to control their environment
and someone who can take it to the point
where they're living in a home that is unhabitable
and, like, a hazard,
as far as someone who just feels the need to give every item to love
and find the right home for it so they're holding onto it until that time comes
if they've just got a lot of stuff it's not worth the back it's a coping mechanism right
and if it's not hindering the way you live to a huge point they can live with it no
I think okay my understanding no no no no I'll just say it's a
form of OCD and I I would say that I've often found with OCD that people jump to help you with
the symptom not the cause and I think that saying your house is out of order is a bit like and like
I'd like to help you with that or like it's a bit like showing up the only because I people find
tend to find like eating disorders for example more understandable maybe because it's like
I don't know why but like it would be like showing up if your friend lost too much weight
as you judge it or whatever showing up with a lasagna it's kind of like showing up to help with
clearing boxes for hoarding it's like that doesn't really help the problem just say let's do
the car boot sale this weekend so there's such a stressful for me the question is not can I
help I want to help you like your house like and it will only be received
just criticism.
I think a really good starting point is,
hello, are you, how are you?
I think like the most useful thing you can be
is a person to send things off
because there's a stress underneath it.
There's a cause and the cause is causing worry
and the coping mechanism is the reaction to the worry.
But I just don't think that going in to solve
is the way you can't do it for a...
And honestly, my experience with hoarding is
if you remove all the stuff,
there'll be new stuff if the issue isn't resolved.
So it's like finding time.
Like is it, does she need you to watch her kids when she goes to therapy?
Does she need to talk about it?
Does she need to confront it?
Yeah, definitely don't clear it out.
You're not there.
No.
Break of trust.
And also like, it literally has to be her.
Like, it doesn't help.
She needs someone to talk to.
Um, and I'm not sure that.
Typing in hoarder's help.
I also just feel like it's, it will, unfortunately, it's going to be very difficult.
Like you'll, she'll always feel just.
judged and observed and it's like quite vulnerable to even let someone in your house especially when
you are a hoarder and you don't want to make it in a situation which doesn't want to let people
in her house because she feels judged or observed or perceived and so I would just say for me I would
be it would be more a case of like how are you what's going on with you how are you finding
everything is there anything like like I would start there I don't I also just think like
You don't deal with a symptom first, in my opinion.
Like those shows where you watch people go in and just pull everything out of the hoarder's houses are so traumatic and obsessing.
It's awful.
The way I got addicted to watching them because I watched the worst shows, but that extreme hoarders and like it'd be like family members being like, they can't live like this anymore.
So they'd have people shop at their houses with like three massive skips outside.
They're like, let's empty this out.
It's like you are, you can see this person in so much anguish and stress.
It's awful.
it's horrific and also it's not medically advisable and it's also not fair and it's also not
solving the problem and there will just be more stuff um and also like what other people are
prepared to live with and where you're like where their line is in terms of comfortability and where
yours is are allowed to be different like some people's stuff soothes them other people's tidiness
soothes them okay i don't know that it affects you in a way that's like if it affects
her and she's saying it affects her
then I think you should talk to her about it but
if it doesn't affect her then like you introducing
a sense of judgment where you don't
have any I know you love her unconditionally
I think it's maybe not the best thing
so
I'm just skimming this
but they look like an interesting article on
mind which
if anyone in the UK you'll know mine it's like a health
like a mental health care support
thing um which has
like just some
helping someone who hoards is what it's
do not consider force clear up so offering general support there's more information but the
main headlines are use respectful language like don't refer to it as junk or rubbish yeah
understand that they have a connection to the objects and that's why they want to keep them
and there will be less likely to open up if you talk about their things in like a negative
way don't focus on a total cleanup and it's got some links to different oCD foundation
websites listen to what they want ask the person close to you what
they think will be helpful.
This will give them more control over the situation and show you care what they want.
For example, they might want you to sit with them while they clean up or for you to help
them take them to the charity shops, which is a nice offer.
I think that's a really common part of hoarding is that it comes from a place of like,
yeah, the things have to go to a place.
There's a home for everything and it's like holding on to it until that home is found.
so like
knowing where those homes are
might be a good thing to just know
just in case it ever comes up
for me the most important part of that
is listen to what they would find helpful though
like I know that's not necessarily
what you want to do
but that's just like
let them know you're there
and yeah
I respect the decision
yeah
that's my feeling
I just think it's so hard
but I think we
I am not qualified
and I don't wish to
and our friends don't need us necessarily
to therapy them
like we're not here to sit in judgment
of our friends
if they ask for advice
I just realized that I think I'm the worst friend
why
the nails got us
what's it called
like a storage unit
now down the road from us
because I was like
these piles are mad
But I don't think he's a
It's not a hoarder
It's just an untie
Maybe, I don't know
No, it's no
It's just, it's pylies of crap
It's different when you're cohabiting
One minute ago
Don't refer to it as junk or crap
But hang on
I would be giving very different advice here
If I was living
If they were living with a person
But they're not
I think you have reasonable
You're gonna ask reasonable
Certain things of someone
When you're cohabiting with them
When you're sharing a space
But they're not sharing a space
And I just think like sitting in judgment of your friends
And he loves his storage unit
Every time we have a fight now
Is that I'm gonna go sit at my storage unit
For a couple of hours and coming down
And I'm like fine, go
But also sitting in judgment of your friend is so easy
But often I'm doing it
Like when I'm being most judgmental of my like self
Or like me just want to like not look at my own life
I just think like if they ask for advice
You should give it or you should ask if they want advice
Like that's something I try to do
Is like do you want impulse but I don't like
I don't know I'm probably
don't let them get a cat.
What?
Isn't it like?
I think the word let them.
They're an adult.
Oh yeah.
Advise against a cat?
Advise against a cat?
Why?
Because a lot of those, like, it's a real, like,
thing that the RIS, PCA get involved or something.
I swear I've heard something like that.
We don't know the level of extremes, I guess, in the situation.
And I think probably what we're saying is check in with your friend,
see if she's okay, see if she needs help,
see if there's a way that you can support her.
think maybe if you're going to point out at all
point out in a way where you're like I've noticed
but not in judgment
my grandfather was a hoarder
and they just need a friend
in a meaning way they need you to be their friend and they
need you to help you if they need therapy
you should help them find a therapist
yes you are not a therapist
and you can't be even if you're trained professional
you can't be for your friend yeah
I would imagine
my my dad's dad was a horder
and I don't think my dad's a hoarder
but he definitely does it with food as far as
like in his brain food doesn't go off
like it's always edible
and I told you this already
my sister rung me
my dad ate cream three weeks out of date
and it's like you've got to let go of it myself
it's not worth it he had it
but like that's a risk isn't it particularly when you're in your 70s
that's sort of it like that's just dads though
dads eat everything they're just like
nothing goes to waste
yeah what's wrong with them
you've got to let go of
things sometimes you must do
can I leave you with a funny image
but wait do you guys have any additional thoughts on that
have we said I don't I'm not an expert
yeah it's a tricky one
because like yeah
there's got to be more than just the mind
website yeah
funny image Andrew
oh so Neil Patel
sat in darkness in his storage unit
listening to Mika out of his phone
his storage room full of DVDs
Mika Live
Mika Live
Mika Live
He got an absolute DVD slap down
Anna Grant was over
And she was like
It's a really poor DVD collection
Because Anna Grant's got a DVD room
Stop it
No joke
No joke
And Sneel was like
Yeah it's small but it's really well curated
I thought I liked her
What a shake
You do love her
You love my friends
Goodbye
Goodbye
I'm going to be able to be.
Thank you.