Trusty Hogs - Ep146. LUCIA KESKIN / Minnie, Musicals & Moving In

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

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Fuck me, Helen. I don't know what's wrong with me. I think coffee was my whole personality. I'm so tired all the time now. You always have these other things as well. The reds here. I've got the, oh my God, not with this again. Not another episode.

I can't. I can't. Before we get going, normal voice, normal voice. No, I'm doing normal voice. Welcome to episode. 146, 7, 6, 646 of trusty hogs, a podcast where we talk about our amazing lives. and then we have on a guest today holy shit oh my god i'm so excited her show is my favorite thing i've watched on television in years it's better than the olympics that we said it okay yeah we've said it

yeah we've said it we mean it we mean it um and then we're gonna solve some listener problems with our amazing guest of course we are through the fog step for the trusty hogs yeah you're gonna give me your problems and they will solve them or may Maybe they won't, and that's your problem. They'll have guests and Andrew White on the tech. Oh, it's Helen and Catherine as the trusty hugs. Trust the trusty hogs, or maybe not. Helen, I've been listening to Far be it from me to recommend a podcast on a podcast,

but the most adorable podcast that's also intensely grotesque. Talk to me. The girlfriends? Have you listened to it? No. so they are women in their 50s 60s and they are the ex-girlfriends of a man who ended up going to prison for killing his girlfriend

shut the fuck up and they solve the mystery the girlfriend's colon are lost sister that's right shut up that's awful I know but they're all from New York Kenny no then why they are and they're like really really like one of them keeps being like one of them they're their disclaimer on the

episode will be things like um and i've got to tell you there's a lot of swearing because i'm too old to change this is the second episode is called mindy goes undercover it's incredible they're incredible i'm obsessed with them they have a second series i'm obsessed with that they seem to have just find out what a podcast is they're tremendous i'm in love with them wait i'm downloading three you must you must you must you must the other podcast that i'm really enjoying is called hysterical and it's about this epidemic of yes i literally went on to my apple podcast app and it was an edited choice yeah we're very similar women yeah yeah so it's we're talking an epidemic of contagion i guess of Tourette's like symptoms in this la Roy i know this whole thing

great do you know it yeah are you kidding at the town that caught Tourette yeah yeah it's it was like a massive documentary on channel four amazing podcast don't spoil it for anybody who hasn't listened but I strongly recommend you don't have to listen guys there's a documentary on channel four yeah I mean but also sometimes you're on the go and you can't watch your like documentaries on the go and you mustn't well you could but like no one wants that not on a bike no not on a bike

point well made actually and not in the car not while you're driving on a train please stop it on a train so yeah so there's um that's something to have a little listen to actually when I because I just listened to the Love Canal series of American Scandal, because that's very nearby. I'm still on your last two recommendations. What were they? The cult I left behind.

Oh, I can't listen to that anymore. It's too dark. And then, wait, I've actually curated mine. What have I got left? Have you done the competition? No. Oh, that's fun. That's really fun.

No, wait, I've got to, no, I'm committing to those fast too fast. Fine. Is that okay? Yeah. Then again, I know the Leroy High School stuff. Go to the competition. The water's got poison in it. No, behave.

Stop spoiling, so I haven't gotten that far. Sorry. Oh, sorry. I'm so sorry. I just wanted to do the boys. There's only four episodes out. Behave. Okay.

No more spoilers. Oh, my God. I can't with this guy. I feel like people think we're doing like a parody of like S&L characters from Bwerklin. You think people give us that comedic credit, do you? Interesting. I'm actually, I think I'm in an Arthur Miller play

when I'm doing these voices. Sweet mother of Jesus. I feel like it's a view from a bridge. What's the other one called? I imagine that's how it was sold. I've got a play. It's going, have you from a bridge? It's the death of a salesman, gather around.

He's died. He didn't actually die in it, did he? You haven't read either of these, have you? No, of you from the bridge, that's the chair one. That's the chair one. I loved that play. I went to go see it in the West End like probably over a decade ago when I was in like going to the theatre by myself

all the time and there's like a really intense scene and it's about lifting a chair from one leg and then like I just couldn't stop thinking about it nice it's on at the moment but Vee from the Bridges is on in the West End right now with who? I will find out. I remember we studied it in English and we had to act out of the scenes

in front of the class. With the voice? I did the voice yeah I got really into it. I bet you did it with a person who was like not at all into drama so I was like giving my everything with the dad like when he's so angry at his daughter like going out and then it cut back to him and he'd be like but but dad i want to do this and um i got so into it i cried oh Andrew giving giving um the view of the bridge is currently with dominic west oh stop it he was very good i thought dominic west was doing a play in bristol uh no this is at

the theatre hall hey market yeah god nope this is at the theatre row no because he didn't buy it to not able to come see him do a play in Bristol? Well, he probably was and now he's... So maybe he was transferred. Or maybe he is doing another play. Oh, maybe, yeah. People do more than one play, don't they, I guess? I think that it's allowed, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw Kit Harrington and indeed the entire cast.

In Slope's play the other night. Have you seen it? No, it's big on TikTok at the moment. Is it? Is it? How are they feeling on TikTok? Uncomfortable. Yeah, I think you're meant to. Yes.

But then they also feel uncomfortable for a reason. that the production don't know, didn't intend? I don't know. It's hard to tell, really. Everyone's being very cryptic about it. I assume that the production company have given a lot of free tickets to TikTokers hoping for this sort of discourse

so people go see it. So I don't really know anything about it. It is by a wonderful young black playwright and it is, it begins with what you then find out is, I guess, observed sexual play. role play where the black partners in relationships are looking to be subjugated and specifically treated like slaves and racial racialized slurs are like used against them in that interaction and then it becomes apparent very quickly that they are in this study where they're trying

to reclaim their blackness within the within their mixed race relationships but also have conversations about sex, have conversations about sense of self, have conversations about lots of things via sex play. And it is deeply uncomfortable. A challenging watch? The challenge is the audience? Yeah, but also very funny. Also very, very funny. And it happened that I went to university as one of the guys who's in the cast. Who, I don't know and who I, like, it's not like, we were, in the same drama society for a millisecond Aaron Heffernan but he was brilliant in it and he was all of a lot of the comedic relief

but yeah it's I'll tell you this much I've been thinking about it since and I think that's the sign of a good play yeah for sure it gets in your bones gets in your bones yeah so okay interesting in the TikTok's all like it makes

sense it's a I think it's meant to be discomforting yeah not everything is made for comfort no interesting and the is it a spoiler to talk about the actually no i won't say anything i've given away a lot of the of the premise but go on

uh just uh no don't spine don't sorry okay no i do what if i think okay but you haven't seen this no no i just that's another reason i've backed out of this is imagine not seeing plays or the olympics because you just watch it all on ticot and you don't even watch it you watch people talking about it on ticot that's what my generation do they do katherine they do they get all their news from it but you should also go to the play

God, I'm 8,000 years old. You are so old. Very similarly significant and culturally impactful and intellectual events such as Shrek the musical. Andrew, we basically both watched books on stage. Well done us. Is Shrek a book? I would love it if Shrek was a bird.

The film opens with a book, doesn't it? It is a fairy story. The film opens with a book opening. Yeah, but. No, Andrew, the film opens with a book opening and therefore that makes the play a book. A literary classic. Yeah.

I don't see the... It's a book. Shrek is a fantasy comedy picture book published in 1990. Oh my god, how much I'm buying it? I'm buying it by William Steig or Steig. Oh my god.

It was a cartoonist that the New Yorker from 1930 to the 1960s. And I definitely knew that. Oh my gosh, should we buy copies? I've never seen it in a bookshop. Copies. No, thank you. Oh my God, there's multiples.

Oh my God, I've never been more happy in my life. Could you stop shopping? shopping maybe now please oh my god i can't believe what was i'll stop shopping oh my goodness why let me show you donkey and shrek oh why is everyone so shopping oh my god wait turn the screen over a bit more andrews whoa what the freak shrek's still green it's the same vibe yeah but he looks like he's wearing a sock on his head i love him i love he that's intense we're so educated in theater in this wait a second one second. If either of you could be in a play or musical, which part?

Miss Transchioriorior Matilda. Boom, boom, boom. I feel like we've had this conversation before, but we're so many episodes in. That was instantaneous. Do you know, I've been through loads of different examples of what I might want, be Alistock in, producers, whatever. But I did, we did blind karaoke recently, me and Reese. Yeah. What is blind karaoke? So you face away from the karaoke screen. You don't know what's being played. Right. You get like the intro music and you have to like oh I know this and I try and join him okay and the opening like trumpet for Miss Trenchpool came in and I went straight into it and may I say I nailed it and I'm

like I want to do that wow but wait a second just the two of you were playing karaoke together does one play karaoke doing karaoke together in your living room or in in your living room no they hired they hired a Western theater good for you girl good for you that's so sweet and incredibly adorable yeah it's really fun um okay okay helen i feel like we've done the musicals one before i said miss hanigan little girls like just that number like yeah but in but i think the dream would be to do a really dramatic dark play like which one like i don't know if a shakespeare would hit it but like the crucible or like yeah who would you be or like abigail or like oh god there was a play

on at the national when i was working like time in the conway is and I thought the lead role on that was so fucking good. Okay. Or I want to be like Denise Goff in the effect. No, no, in people, places and things. Okay, I don't know anything. Or like, just something really, like, dark and dramatic. Like, just be completely different from myself and, like, what I normally perform.

I'd want to do something like, I want to make, I would want to make people cry. How psychotic is that? No, that's gorgeous. Good for you. Opposite of what my aim is each night on stage. No, good for you. I love that. Um.

I obviously don't know much about musical so I don't think that's for me I mean you're drama school I don't know I think I'd want to be somebody kind of disgusting something dark something gross

something a bit vulgar I do think a Shakespeare could hit it from me but I want Lady Macbara yeah but even like a Mary Wive like a Mary Wive Mary Wife like a

like a think I'd like to be a bit like tits out bits out like messy bitch stop it like road that play that's got a lot of like messy characters in it doesn't I haven't seen it but I believe you oh my goodness um do you want do you want to die on stage oh so that looks so intense having to stay still I'd rather I get laughs I'll be honest but in a dark way oh oh right okay like things that you couldn't do in your stand-back yeah I think so and just a bit messy I think I think what I do on stage is very fun but it's also

very me and therefore it is uptight and it is like quite like predetermined and I would love a bit of like I'd love to be a woman who just like lounges like I'd like a character who doesn't get off a Shays long kind of vibe like a period piece do you think

yeah I could do that I could really get into that like a Noel coward they're funny yeah I think yeah that would be my dream scenario but I also wouldn't mind like a prissy princess like a brat of a fun of a gal yeah yeah yeah but I can't think

who these characters are because I don't know who's a brat Juliette because I don't know anything about theatre I'm not too old to play Juliet now no you're not they were teens and you look 12 I don't want that to be true you do not look 12 thank you I hear your compliment

receive your comment grateful for it but I do also rescind it because I'm going to say no thank you could you be like Titania, because she's messy, she's sex with a donkey. I can get into Titania, yeah. And she's got big laughs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As well as, like, fucking insanely

prissy, she's literally the fairy queen. Yeah, or maybe someone a bit murderous. Oh, okay. I'm jumping all over the show. I feel like, yeah, you, you, you really want a character that goes on a journey from Princess to Messi to murderer. Yeah, to... I think so.

Joan Lapusel in Henry the 6th part one Haven't seen it but that sounds great Because she does lose it But she does start as sort of not a princess But like a warrior and the leader And then it comes to her persecution She's going to be killed And then her trying to defend herself from panicking

So you get like a good arch That's fun That's a good arch Yeah it really is That's a great story I like that Oh my god should we do it Should we audition for theatre next year It just makes sense I think

Should we all do it Should we go to like Do they do open casting calls? for the West End. I'm sure we could just go to the national and knock on the door, can't we? No, no. People did not.

No, they didn't. Say more, say more, say more. You know that idea of like, you just need to like hustle your way to the top? Yes. And like, so it was working in like catering or people would like wait by the stage door and like just try and like be seen by people.

And then there was also people who would like exclusively come to the national. And like, just to be clear, I am not laughing at them. I think they're just trying their best. If you don't know and know anyone in the industry, then you just have to guess so they would like write their plays in the foyer of the national theatre just sort of like looking around and I was like how stressful how awful and I don't think this has ever worked for anyone but when you don't know you're just guessing that's so endearing

I know that is so endearing the casting director or like who I don't know if she still is was to cast for any national theatre obviously the offices it's all like in one building she used to come through and get a coffee from the espresso bar each morning when I was working yeah and um yeah people would try and like it was like well what can you do you know what can you do like there's no way she's going to be like number one she doesn't even know if you're an actor or not yeah like what do you surely don't break into like and then do you think romeo yeah are they asking this just reaching for the brown sugar romeo did you see the guy at glastonbury singing a song to do a leper no oh this guy with a guitar

and he's like he's very charming and like northern and like can you can I sing your song just give 30 seconds your time 30 seconds and like sings this song and you see he will he play and fair play to her internal body clock because that 30 seconds bang on she goes thank you so much walks away wow it was big viral get a girl because how do you how do you figure out how to make it yeah it's so stressful I don't know what you do it feels like intuitive not that but I guess it's not intuitive I mean oh my god

in my head people are sat in the local odian writing their films like scripts the odian Catherine come on screenways being like surely actually no we're laughing at that picture house central yeah definitely

people are writing screenplays in there I'm taking meetings in there you can get membership to the membership bar to be like I'm a screen wider I'm going to the membership bar there's someone I know who does exactly that Amazing. There's someone we all know who does exactly that, no doubt.

Yeah, yeah. Me, you both know me. Just say it. It's okay. And it's going to be a damn good film when I figure it out. I have no doubt about it. And you know what? I'm selling it to Disney.

I don't care if I haven't got any ins or whatever. I don't give a fuck. I'm going to post it to the mouth. Dear, and I'm going to wait. So I'm not sick. I was like, to the match. I'm not sick. I'm going to wait for Mickey to come to me.

Because I'm sure, we're all aware. there are summer sailings of the Disney cruise lines from Southampton, summer 2025. And when that boat shows up, I'll be there ready to hand my script over to Captain Mickey or as of recently, suddenly we're feminist on Disney Cruise Lines, Captain Minnie.

And let me be the first to say, I will not get on a ship captained by a female mouse. I'll do it with a male mouse. He's done four ships before he's done around the world. What the fuck does Minnie know about driving a boat Mickey's got practice.

Tell them. Good for you. It's a ship, I'm afraid. We will get nautical complaints. Oh yes. Of the ship. Apology. Of the female ship. Yes.

It's to be a male mouse and a female ship. Thank you very much. As God intended. It's just like God wanted. Exactly. But I just had like an intrusive thought of, do you remember that extras episode

where it's like pop knob in Fanny? What could be more natural than that? No one to get this reference? Was that an extra episode on this podcast? No, from the show. The TV show extras. Obsessed with you. I'm quoting ourselves.

Obsessed with you thinking that that's where that was born of. I think on that note, we'll introduce our guests. Please. Please. Everybody welcome to the podcast. It's Lucia Keskin. Woo-hoo. It's very rare that we've been.

like chatted about something before the show where I'll say to the guest, can we talk about that on the podcast and they'll usually say, absolutely not. Didn't you see my, didn't you see I was doing my secret? This is a secret eyes. No, I don't care. Um, you were like yes. So, you tell Helen this. So next week, Lucia's moving house. And she is moving in with her girlfriend. She's got long hair. It's so confusing.

And they met. Two months ago. Sorry, I ruined the. I loved it. I loved it. You must. You, you move fast at all things. I love lesbian madness. I love it. Talk us through and how'd you meet? Well, I knew her about four years ago, not met. Okay, how'd you know?

Okay, okay. I think she used to watch my videos, I suppose, which sounds predatory. Oh my God, it doesn't. It's a chuckle fucker. I grew in chocolate. No. She's my age.

Okay, good. Which is another thing that's sort of a con, like pros and cons. Okay, what age would you like her to be? I mean, ideally in her mid-40s. Really? Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, she does sunbeds, so.

That's, okay, good. Few. My girlfriend's only issue with me is that she would rather I was 10 years older. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, I'm a bit too young at 36. She's like, okay, interesting. Yeah, I told everyone I was like, she's way too young for me. She's your age.

She's my age. I love what she does sunbeds. That's so, you know, pushing her out to the garden, being like, get out there, babe, babe, relax. She'll be, she'll look like she's in her 50s. In a few years. Great, great, great, great, great. That's really good stuff.

But she, I met her on, so she spoke to her on Instagram and she had, we had a mutual friend or something, but she lived in Kent, but just not the same town. So like, folks didn't I'm from Margate. And there's a big war between the two. Is there? Big war. The whole of Kent's at war with itself consistently. Margate's lovely, though.

It's all right. It's better than Fokston. Okay, good. And we will agree with you, gladly, because she's not here. I don't know. Fokston does have a charm and chocolate shop. I think she's sort of just relieved to be out. Great.

I mean, it could not, she might not even like me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's just glad not to be about it. What commitment to the best. Wait, so you're going to live together. This is a wild. And so romantic. So you knew each other and then you'd see each other and then she ghosted me.

Oh, really? And then. Was it clear from the initial tap that you were trying to hit on her? Well, she slid in first. Oh. Oh, fuck boy energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, massive. Interesting.

Okay. She slursed. Flursed. She floursted flurth. Yeah. And then I was annoyed, but I was like, oh, is what it is. I don't care. And then.

It's all, you're always at your most relaxed about things where you're saying, I don't care. Yeah, I don't care. And then spoke to me again. It was like, oh, sorry, I had COVID. And then goes to me again. Oh, get to far. You can text during COVID. And then she got engaged.

Sorry, what? Yeah, for like, she was with someone for like two years. I was with someone for a year. She got engaged. Do you might be asking how old you are? 23? Okay, Kent. Okay, I've got to remember Kent.

I've got to remember Kent. I keep being like, what do you mean? She got engaged with Ken. Engaged for me, absolutely not. But, I mean, apparently, you know, young people move fast. Yeah, okay, fair play. They really do. And who's been engaged five times.

Can you believe that? Ghosted every single time. On the day. Okay, so, okay, so you would knew you're kind of aware of each other. Yes. And I just thought, do you know what, twice, what an absolute cunt. Yeah. I love that you like whispered, cunt. I don't know if it was a lot. Oh, no, you can, you can't all over the shop. Yeah, by all mean. What absolute, you know, cunt. Yeah. And then, um, you're such a polite girl. You even still second time, you know, cunt, cunt. Um, so I was, you know,

I unfollowed her, but she still followed me because probably she just doesn't care. Um, and then she got unengaged and broke up January and then came back and then came back and then she messaged you now I was like oh yeah okay so I'm just waiting for the third ghost I'm obsessed with this yeah it's quite funny so what did she say that made you be like okay fine I don't know I just are you free I'm weak this girl must be pretty this girl's got to be pretty there's no way you're putting up with this shit unless she's gorgeous annoyingly I don't let me show you a picture. And also only a pretty girl. That's my dog though. Okay, that girl's

smoke and heart. Crazy! And also you have to be that level of heart to even think you can get away with that. To even be like, I'll just message her high. You can do whatever you want. Yeah, you have to look like that. That's insane. She's so gorgeous. The dog's fit too. Yeah, the dog's so cute. Oh cute. Yeah. I fancy my dog. Legit. Together, the pair of them. Oh, my God.

It's so weird, isn't it? When you're like, yeah, I see it for this animal. And if I'm not that you want to do anything. Like, I can imagine all of the dogs being like, fuck me. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a couple of horses I've seen, and I'm not a horse person. I've never been in one where I'm like, I'm not even into horses. She said I've never been in one. On one, on one, on one.

On one, actually, can I say that? On in, on top of, you know, underneath. She loves horses. Who doesn't, apparently? Not me, actually, quite allergic. But this one horse that lives quite close to me is gorgeous. Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow.

It's close to you in London? No joke. No joke. There's like five in a park. Is there actually horses in... I've only seen some in Hyde Park. Zone two. Zone two.

And there's some in... I can't say where because everyone knows where I live. Oh, yeah. And Catherine's like, very good at helping me stopping doxing myself. Yeah, please. But there's also some in Vauxhall at the Vauxhall Farm. Is that good? But I don't think the horses...

It's really good, but I've never seen a horse there. I've been like, what the fuck's your story, you know? Because Molly's obsessed with horses. Really. Really. about, you know, the countryside. Is that the girlfriend of the dog? The girlfriend.

I had to think about it. Yeah, you did. It was too long a pause, frankly. Too long a pause. That's so sweet. So you're moving in together. Of course, you are divine. Yeah.

And have you sort of been pseudo living together the whole time anyway? Yeah, she's not gone home yet. Yeah, classic. Since the first day. Classic. Or her parents aren't worried. Are they putting up sign? No.

I think she's done this before. Fine. Of course, she's gay. She's been gay the whole time. That'll do it. I have to get lip balm. Imagine leaving a podcast interview to go over there to get lip balm. No, you do it because I'm just thinking about, like, two months never left you to the sides.

And then... I mean, she did go on holiday for Tenerife. It was meant to be 10 days, but she... She cut it down. She went to her flights home because she put her phone on the sand and went in the sea and it got stolen. No. She was like, I'm going to go in the sea, so she put her phone purse and all belongings just on the sand. Is she a chaos queen?

Huh? Is she a chaos queen? Oh, my God. Yes. Yeah, okay. So messy. And do you love that, the cleaner? No.

I hate it I hate it Are you a neat freak? I didn't realize I was But yeah apparently I used to be just normal But now I'm sort of like Kim and Aggie

That show That is me I truly feel that like Which one? Both But I just moved into a house chair Having lived alone for three years And I really thought I got

Over loads of my shit And then I rocked up And I'm like finding myself Running a finger along doorframe It's just horrible Do you hate me? Do you hate me? Like why?

Why? Why? For anyone, by the way, we've got international listeners. I'm like, how do you describe Kim and Aggies, how clean is your house? So true, I don't think there is even an American alternative. No, there is. It's like Australian alternative is there.

Is it a bit like when Courtney and Chloe took Miami? Yeah, but they cleaned. It's, what the fuck is that? How was that? I think it's closed. Okay, it's giving the same energy. It's okay, take Courtney and Chloe to Kardashians in their 20s at this point, swap it for women in their 50s.

wearing marigold gloves and lab coats. Oh yeah, I forgot of the lab. One with pearls, one with a very, very tight up do. I'll give that to Kim. It was very, she invented the slick back for this generation. You made them sound separate, but the high slickbacked hairdo and the pearls are the same woman. That's both Kim.

Aggie's just there, glasses. Short back and sides. Literally, a short back and sides. She's giving I won the mom's race at the sports day. And it's the same as most British reality shows where there's no compassion, there's no care. They go into someone who's clearly, now we know, this is a straight from the noughties,

has very difficult, mental health problems. And like, the house's got disordered. And instead of going in and going, okay, what's going on? They go in and go, ew! They do a lot of, oh, you fucking minging bitch.

And they, yeah, they do, they pretend to vomit. They put on masks. They're like, I can't breathe, I can't breathe. And he's going to faint. And he's going to faint. They do a hazmat suit sometimes. But I'll tell you what,

they leave it sparkling. They do leave it sparkling. I mean, the now, the one that's now is obsessive-compulsive cleaners. Have you ever watched that? No. I love it.

I have OCD and I feel like it would be bad for me to watch it because I'd be like, see if people need help. They come out straight away with the fact that the people that clean have like a very severe OCD that they have to clean

and then they go in and clean people's house that have the opposite mental illness of like, I can't because I'm depressed and it's just piled up. So they mix them too? They mix two mental disorders together and sort of make them fix each other. That's the OCD version of super size versus super skinny.

But all that happens is that the clean people clean their house while they sort of do nothing and go, oh, I don't want to get rid of that. And then, so it's sort of worse on the person that's got OCD for cleaning. For sure. Because they're doing all the work. The other person's sort of going,

I don't want to, I absolutely can't get rid of that. No, I need that. Oh, God. What other mental illnesses could we do it with, optimists and pessimists? send them on a beach holiday together. And just one person being like, Good morning.

Exma and asthma. Exmo and asthma go to a dry climate and a warm climate. That's savage. That is savage. Maybe you could get like... Send them to the desert. Then send them to the Arctic tundra and see who fares best.

No E-45 cream, no aquas cream, no inhalers. Best of luck kids. Oh, it's tough. That is. Tom. That's horrendous. I watch. There's so many shows that I would commission if I was a commissioner.

Is that the number one? Sorry. Can we just quickly talk about your show? Because if you haven't seen it, it's the best comedy I've seen on British television in so long. I'm sorry to be annoying and sick of hand dick. I love it so much because it is so, and I hope you'll take this the right way, so fucking stupid. Oh, I love that. And clever.

Thank you so much. It's so clever, but it's mainly so fucking stupid. It's touching. It's brilliant, it moves along, you care about everyone, all of the stuff you need for a good comedy, but also it is, I'm like, I was watching it being like, I can't believe she got them to a greatest

and I'm so fucking glad you did, but it's just so smart. Well, to me, it's like, it's so good to hear that because to me I'm like, it's not stupid enough. To me, I'm like, oh, they turned it into this big heartfelt show. But I'm pleased you think it's stupid because it means that, you know, that's the right amount of work, team work, I think it is really stupid.

And I think just about every moving moment is undercut by by a little bit of cruelty and thickness and stupidity and I was going to watch it anyway because Sineal Patel is in it so I will always watch

A big Sineal Patel fan but oh he's great Helen Bauer's housemate but they are not fucking and they won't no matter how much I encourage it but I do think what combination of mental health

illnesses are you guys oh God I mean I'm the bingies I'm the bingies and the depression and depression. It's depression and repression together. Depression and repression.

I get the bingies, the munchies, the saddies. Yeah. And then he gets the, God, he, he literally, I just don't know if he has mental health full stop. What, like he's just so good. He's just, he's just, no, he's just, he's just there. He's just fully functioning. Yeah.

Wow. Like he won't even allow me to get, like, he won't even let me enjoy my mental health. Like I started putting on this is us, the other, What was it called? Oh, that's not good. I don't know why I went for a rewatch shop at it. Saddest show ever. It's tragedy point.

It's tragedy point. I was thinking of this country, I think. Oh, that's so... Very different. Such a different reaction. This is us is so sad. What is it? American drama with Mandy Moore.

Intergenerational. So you see like these trippers at all different stages of their life. Oh, I see. They're all harrowing. Spoiler, they're all harrowing. But no, this country would be better for your mental health, I think.

I love this country. Yeah, that's better. But I feel like your show is in that vein. It's like, it's just great. Thanks for making it. Thanks for watching it. It really, really, really made me hell. I also just love that you, like, it feels very authentic.

I hate to say it. I wanted to vomit, but it feels like it's like properly consistent and like your sense of humor all the way through. It's great. Thanks for watching. You've got a great voice. Thank you. God, is it weird?

being so, I was just going to say with that, like, constantly people sort of going like, you're the voice of the youth. Is that a weird vibe? I don't think anyone's ever said that to me. Oh, you are the voice. Really? Of youth. Oh my God. People talk, I think, yeah, I think TV people talk about you, like,

like, she's now like, like, yeah, the voice of this young generation. This is such a moment. It is such a moment. I feel like I've never seen you so like a fan joke. I just love it. Yeah, and it's true. I do feel weird and uncomfortable because I'd rather just be like, stop. But I do.

I just talk about the gay stuff, it's fine, and I don't really care what you make. But I, yeah, but I just felt like, I think there's a real, we tend to get into rhythms, don't we, with television? And I just hadn't seen anything like in ages, and that's such a relief, because I watch so much television,

so it's good for my brain to see something different. We want to watch something different. Like the other day, I was like, and I can't stop watching reality TV. Oh, it's so good, though. Yeah, we watch Housewives. Of course you watch Housewives. Of course.

No, sorry. I left New York after three seasons. No, this is the thing. It gets better at season four. I do agree. Does it? Because I think Kelly Ben-Simon is as good as it's going to get.

Oh my God. Kelly Ben-Somombeam is nothing. Take that back. No, like nothing. Take that back because I was fucking mental because she is great on it. She's jelly beans and that's it. Like Ramona and Sonia Morgan.

Ramona. Sonia Morgan makes the rest of the show. Yeah. Have you done Atlanta? God. I've dipped into Atlanta but then I left it for Salt Lake City. Atlanta's amazing.

I'm also just about to start at you. Utah, I think, because I really think it's going to, it really is going to be my vibe. Is Salt Lake City or is Utah? It's one of them. Salt Lake City is the bomb. Are they all Mormon? Um, some of them X. Divine. I'm so, I'm so. One of them's a preacher and she's married to her granddad. Oh my God. Let's get into. Yeah, I'm in. Let's get into it. That's the first episode. It's like, this is Mary. She's married to her grandpa. And she's like, my grandma left him in the will. This is real housewife. ever you've got to do Utah see I've been so sort of all I watched was Beverly Hills and I'm so very much like committed and loyal to one I found like I never ever thought I'd ever even watch New York because it was all like you're missing out everyone I said was Beverly Hills Beverly Hills Beverly Hills and then I watched New York got through the first three series because my agent who loves it got me into it was like just it gets better and it's been the only thing keeping me alive oh then you're going to want to do Atlanta it's amazing oh my God it's so freaking good are you kidding yeah I also I want you to have more things that keep you alive.

I just mean that's how good it is. Okay, good. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's just, it's just so good. Okay, good. Do you do love is blind? Not really. I only really, I'm only, I just love real housewives. Did you do I kiss a girl? I didn't even do that, no. What?

I didn't even do that, no. What kind of how does that call are you? I'm not very much into love, love stuff. None of these shows I named are about love. I kissed a girl's about love, isn't it? Love is blind and kissed a girl? No, they're about fame. They're about specifically about fame. They're about fucking in fame and insecurity.

Not a single, I haven't named one show about love. My God. See, I just, I just love middle-aged women. Yeah, okay. I just love middle-aged women. Yeah, okay. I do not care for any other realities. Baby of God recommendation.

What is it? Dance mum. Oh my God, of course. Okay, of course. Okay, of course. Have you done toddlers and tiaras? That will make you hate middle-aged women. I think I did a bit, a bit, but that was,

I mean, I watched selling sunset, but to me it was like, it was, I hate it, but I watch it all, but it's just, they're too young for me. They're way too young for me. Oh, no, really? I watch it, I watch it all, but I'd hate that I watch it

because I find it just like dire. I'm like, why am I watching all these like teens? They're all in the 30s. Yeah, no, no, I know what you're saying. But that to me is like a teenager. Like a teenager. I would love a reality TV. Oh, then you're going to love,

you should listen to the girlfriends. The girlfriend. It's a podcast. Oh, what? By women in their 50s and 60s. Oh, my God, perfect. They were all the girlfriend of a man who went to prison for killing his girlfriend.

And. But they didn't. They just found out about podcasts and they're determined to solve the mystery and they do. That's so funny. They actually do. Well, listen, they solve quite a few mysteries. They're fascinating. But honestly, they keep showing up at each other's houses being like every single time it's like explaining the podcast, all of their, you'll love it.

And it'll be sexy. It'll be a nice time. Have to. Are there any other middle-aged? We don't, we do not put middle-aged women on television very often. Oh, that's my dream. My dream is just right for middle-aged women. To do Grace and Frankie.

I mean, that's older. But that's the best. That's pretty sexy though. tell you what the age is great, Kath and Kim. They're like, how old Kath's supposed to be. I never watched that.

No, I had this like the other day when someone was like, oh, I want to watch a really good, like sitcom, I feel like I've watched all the new ones and I've seen Kath and Kim.

They're like, I've never heard of it. It's so good. It's all on Netflix. You have to watch it. It's really fucking shit that though I'm moving into this age bracket, I cannot think of a single TV show

that's middle age women. It's just real housewives. Motherland. Motherland. Motherland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so fucking good. Yeah, yeah.

It's still like, I know it, like, it's the point where I watched it so much that when my, when my Wi-Fi stopped working, it kept playing because it was that embedded into my TV. Oh, my God, that's so funny. Yeah. What are your other favorite sitcoms? Oh, there's so many. I mean, so many. I love Catastrophe, I think it's, oh my God, catastrophe. I think Catastrophe is perfection.

I think Motherland's perfection. Anything Sharon Hogan's done. Absolutely. Anything Diane Morgan's been in. People, just everyone whose names rhymes with Morgan and Hogan. I do agree. Yeah, there are solid pay. Morgon and Horgan know what's up.

Yeah, that's mine. I love Ab Fab and Vicar of Dibli. I'm a bit old school, I say. Staff let's fans. Staff is so good. Literally one of the funniest programs to ever. Oh, another shout to the milk town. Do you watch any American sitcoms?

I'm very, I used to be very like for America so much in my youth. Yeah, in your youth. That's now gone. Yeah. Way, well gone. I used to be so sort of full because I was obsessed with Kristen Chanoeth. I don't know who you know who she is. Oh my God.

Do you just say you don't. Well, back then, no one did, but all I would do is say to people do this people. Do you not come to our house and insult us? It was, she was my, like, my whole wall was her, like everywhere. Like, I had a whole shrine to her. She's phenomenal. Watching her and Adina do a live version of the, I think they did. For you.

Yes, on. No, for good, sorry. For you, for you. But I was going to say, for, it was maybe the, like, 20 years of Oprah show or something. Yes. Oh, my God, iconic, iconic, iconic. She's the reason I have no education. taught me through it

because it's from the moment I went to Year 7 my mum took me to me see Wicked and that was that that was that what you couldn't pay attention in school? All I wanted to talk about all my books are still I mean I've got them still all my school books covered in Christian Chanaway so that was where I was like okay America is life

America is life because it's actually so sweet Was she in the West Wing? She was in West Wing Glee Pushing Daisies Fuck she's great in the West Wing I watched it just far Yeah she's so good in the West Wing in the West Wing.

They had such a sexy vibe. Her and Anna Friel. Oh, sorry. Was you? Yes and. No, I was saying in the West Wing. Her and the man who played the chief of staff, Leo. Oh, yeah.

They had a sexy vibe. So sorry. Spoiler. Sorry if you haven't seen the West Wing. It's not. I literally only, I had no idea what was going on. I had no interest in the story. All I cared about was Kristen Chin.

I could not tell you what the West Wing is about. Wait, she and Anna Friel are in pushing days. Daisy's. Okay, we'll watch that. I love Anafriel. She's so hot. Watermelon was like a sexual awakening. There's only two. Two seasons. Was it watermelon that Annafriel was in? That felt like a sexual awakening to me. Andrew? I don't know what watermelon is. I've not had to watch. Can you check Annafriel watermel? That's good. Well, not what's happening? Sorry. But I was so obsessed with her that I just thought America, I watched like modern family. I thought that was hilarious. I still think it's hilarious. Yeah. But then I think when it was then I went through a transition from

Kristen Chenoweth to Sarah Poulson, obviously, as Elizabeth. You have to do that. You must. You have to go through that. It's the logical difference. OJ Simpson trial, Marsha. Yeah, everything. She is so hot.

She's so hot. It's crazy. And then COVID, I was like, what do I actually want to do? And then I watched Mandy. And I already loved Diane from Kunk, like, obsessed. And then I was like, no, this is the woman of the world.

I agree. This is the future and this is everything. And then I was just like, okay, I'm going to fully depth myself back into. Because I used to be obsessed with like British comedies with my granddaughter. I was like, I'm going to, I just need to sink back into this world in Britain because the funniest people in the world. Agreed. And she is also, and I think funny, very important, but she's also one of the sexiest people in the world. I'm surprised we talk with such.

I'm like, why is everyone not drooling over there, Morgan, all of the time? I know. All of the time. She's so hot. So hot. Okay, hard to agree. Absolutely. I want to go watch Motherland again.

They're doing a Christmas special again this year, are they? Oh, no, there's a spin-off. Amanda land. Amanda land. Which is great, but I can get into. Where's Liz? What's the point? We'll get more.

No, you're right. We'll get more. And why is Amanda and Liz not together? That's what I want to know. It never made any sense. Thank you for asking the important questions. I've never come out with it publicly. No, no, good for you.

Say it. This is the safe space. Why? Why? That's such a good point. Why aren't they? They'll find each other. Is that never in there?

Who is your... Okay, speaking of, in sitcoms, I think there's quite a few where I'm like, I don't understand whether women ever got together. Okay. Like, I feel like, sorry, but I really think Rachel and Monica had such a vibe. I thought Phoebe was more so.

She's the queer one. No, Phoebe's you, which is like, doesn't realize she's gay for ages. Do you think you'll be gay eventually? I've only just found out. I'm queer. It turned out I had the definition wrong. Did you?

I don't laugh. Catherine, to tell me on the podcast. Well, just because Helen was like, yeah, like, I wanked to women and, yeah, like, I've kissed women and yeah, like, I would have sex with a woman, but I haven't, so I'm not gay, so I'm definitely straight. And then she was like, that's actually problematic to think if you haven't done something with the woman, then you can't be clear. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've, it's been a, it's been a real curve for me. Wow. Went home, told us to Neil Patel, I'm queer now.

He went, I'm not having any women in this house. That's amazing. Andrew, we must solve a problem. That is nice. I just can't wait to be king. Oh my God, okay. Andrew, please for the problem. We've got an ideal problem actually.

I'm heading to Canterbury. Should I get the stopping soon? Ideal. No, this is actually a problem entitled Relationship with Mum. From Elle. Okay, how do we feel about it? From Elle?

Yeah, Elle. Hi, Al. Like many Bobby. Brown. Oh no, we just give everyone anonymous letters. Oh, letters.

Yeah. Yeah. Hi, Elle. Hi, hogs. I'm hoping you guys can help me with a problem I've had for the past few weeks. Here we go. I, 27-year-old trans woman,

have recently had my first novel published. Congratulations. So far this is not a relatable problem. This is like, Elle's bragging, but okay, go on. I'm super proud of myself for achieving this and genuinely

making my childhood dreams come true. whilst working a full-time job and and proposing to my boyfriend. Oh, cool. Having a fantastic year, our wonderful stuff. However, whilst I am incredibly fortunate to have a close circle of friends and as well as my films and his family,

my own family is less than thrilled. For a bit of background, I've been working. They hate reading. Sorry? They hate reading. Yes, yes. For a bit of background, I've been working this novel since I was 20 when I was at the very beginning of my transition.

My mum didn't handle my coming out very well, but I truly believe that we were now in a good place and she was accepting of me. However, upon telling her that my book was being published, something that should have been a really happy, joyous moment, this came crashing down and we ended up having a blazing row. My mum told me that I should get a proper job and forget this silly writing nonsense

and flat out told me that I wasn't talented enough to make it work. Adding that she would never read the book. She can't read. That's what I'm hearing. Barking hell. She can't read and she's defensive. This is so embarrassing. Just get out of the audio book. She should just get the audio.

She could read her own. No, I don't think she deserves to read it at this point. Is that the, is there more? Yes, yeah. So she told me that she hated seeing the name I'd chosen for myself on the front of the book. And I, at that point, chose to remove myself from the situation and leave her house. I feel such a mix of anger and sadness that what should have been a brilliant and joyous thing has been stamped on by my mum. Whilst my fiancée has been nothing but wonderful to me in the aftermath, even throwing me a party to celebrate with all of our friends.

I still desperately crave my mum's approval. Yeah, don't we all? How do I celebrate this achievement after what has happened? How do I reassure myself that I am talented and have the right to tell queer stories and be myself? And how do I let go of what I think I'm feeling? A strong need to live my life for my mother rather than myself. Lots of love to you all, Elle.

Lots of love to you, Elle. Lots of love and congratulate you well done. Congratulations. Well done. Congratulations well done. That's nice. Is that, congratulations and well done? Yeah, she's nicer that way.

She saves time. So, salt? Obviously, there's no H-GMI involved here. I mean, it's just, it is so annoying that we need mum's approval. Yeah, I feel like everyone, even when you know your mum's completely wrong. Yeah. I'm going to go full, like, teenage girl on this. Your mum's jealous of you.

What? She's jealous of you? She's just fucking jealous. She wanted to write a book. Yeah. She wanted to pick any name. She didn't do it. She missed her opportunity.

That's fantastic. Because it is too late. It's too late for mum. So she's jealous and does not how to handle it. No. Honestly, your mom's being a dick. That sucks. Doesn't that really suck?

Because it's like, yeah, you're always going to crave it for some reason. Like, unless you do, like, the most amazing amount of therapy to be able to let go of it. It's just something that you will come back to, that whole thing I've wanted to make your parents proud. and particularly when it's something that's such a big achievement and such a movement and you've already worked through a tough period and it's like, hey, I thought we're all good and now you can't even be happy for me and you're going to be mean about like not only thinking that I'm not a good writer but you're also going to like not be nice about the name that I've chosen for myself. Like what the fuck? Yeah. I think that the first thing you should do is give

yourself a little bit of forgiveness that you're not like, I think there's sort of a need to intellectualize ourselves when we're queer to be like I should be able to extrapolate myself and extract myself from my family unit and provide myself all of the care and nurturing and parenting that I may not have gotten in the context where I was most vulnerable and asking for acceptance and that would be intellectually a very easy a very nice thing to be able to do but it's not an easy practical thing to do and actually it's totally normal and reasonable to feel wounded by the people who took care of you as a child, not wanting your happiness for you and also rejecting you in any way, especially when it's ongoing. So like, it's, that's like a normal

thing to feel. And I think beating yourself up about not getting there quickly enough isn't helping. Also, how do you reassure yourself that you have the right to tell the stories and that you're a good writer? I would say, you got published. There are so many people who write to publishers and who write for the sake of writing and for the love of writing but who will never be published like you're obviously incredibly good at this so that goes without saying

and also you also we also have the right to be like bang average that stuff so the fact that you're doing exceptionally well is a testament to you it makes me feel sad for your mom not that she deserves like to be the

she's not the victim here but I think like it makes me feel sad that when you're doing so well most people see their children as an extension of themselves obviously she sees you as an extension of her and she planned or decided it was going to look differently and so can't let go of her disappointment about that which she may or may not get over but it's sad that she can't see that you're something to be proud of like that you're excelling at something that you're getting married that you're like thriving that you're writing it's amazing but it makes me sad because imagine how embarrassed you must be when somebody leaves your house who's done that well for

themselves and you've said something as petty as like and I don't even like the name you've chosen like that's you're not coming from like a that's true you're not you're not you're not winning the argument yeah exactly I think you know you've sort of lost the run of your the threat of your argument at the point that you're there so I just feel sad for her but mostly I feel like this is so much easier said than done but you have an amazing fiance and an amazing group of people around you values people who value you and we have we you have us as well we're here yeah i mean i'm not here all the time we've wednesday yeah but every thursday we are here would like to make us up available every day every day every day every day well well yeah that's so

kind but you've got to go to alton on everything well she's not been for a while so okay hopefully you know also my mom is near olton so we could do like a pickup thing sort it out between that's nice you can't drive but okay no no well i'm i have the train obviously i know the route yeah yeah yeah yeah but i just think value the people who value you like and that doesn't have to mean that everyone around you adores you all the time but like okay okay or they it does they must but i just mean like you mothers come in lots of modes and shapes and sizes and mode no i like mode modes but i guess i don't even mean that like you're i guess i mean like lots of people have mothered me who aren't my mom yeah exactly that's very true you get it from a lot of people it doesn't just

mean your own you know biological mother and the queen for example obviously rest and face but Diane Morgan Diane Morgan has mothered us all yeah for sure Kim Woodburn Kim Woodburn A great shout out and a callback Andrew

lovely stuff very nice I love to see it Can I throw one more option out Go on Just get desperate and beg for it But she asked Down on the hands and knees Mummy please

Mummy please Mummy I love you Lock her in a room Read the whole book to her Like there's just There is desperation Can get you quite a far way In my head what happens

is actually that um in like six months her mom messages to be like hi yeah her mom's really yeah sometimes you have to leave it you you have to just be like well i don't you have to you have to see they have to see you thriving and without them so they go oh wow now i wish i was in their life i do actually think there's some merit in that argument here it's so hard though yeah yeah to put that like thing up of being like i'm not going to seek it yeah it's really tough yeah It's totally normal to, no, don't beg. I've begged my dad before. Been like, please tell me a proud of me.

And he's like, very good. It's tough, isn't it? It's so tough. And also like, I guess it can be helpful sometimes with our parents to be like, what would my life look like if they never give it to me? Because if they don't, like, because then you kind of can move forward from that working premise of if it comes, great. if it's not, if I can't chase it my whole time.

Yeah. Gosh, I, well, from us, can I say, well fucking done. Yeah, congratulations. Yeah, we'll mummy it right now. Yeah, congratulations and, well done. You're a buddy legend, I love your name. Don't know what it is, but I'm telling you now, it's perfect for you. It suits you down to the ground and your book's amazing.

I don't think women should be the ones to propose, but I'm very happy for you that you're getting married. That's your life. And, and he wrote a book. I hope it's about being a housewife. And we're proud of you. And do you watch the real housewives? And which series of the housewives are you watching?

I presume you're watching. We have to hope. But yeah, well done. Because there's loads of mothers in that. Oh my God, there's loads of mothers. I mean, they're, you know. You could also watch the Kardashians. They have a mom.

And they are mothers themselves. But they're just very young. You want to fuck them. But maybe what about Chris? She's too sort of nanny, nana for me now. Okay, that's fair. Oh, you judge on these ages. I do love Chris, though.

And then you just cut off at the point, like, what do you want? I really feel like there's 10 years where you'd be willing to fuck someone enough. They have to go to that time. No, I feel like it will get to the point where it will go into the gilfs because I feel like all of the people I love will also age. Okay, fine. But as right now, I can't, you know, I'm not. I get it. I'm not, I'm not going for the 60s and 70s and 70s.

On the count of three, everyone, favourite mother. Oh, what do you mean? Hang on, give us a second. Give us a second. Give us a second. Give us a second. Oh, do they have to be a mother? Yeah.

Okay, I'm giving you, I'm giving you from the count of ten, okay? Ten, nine, eight, seven, I've got a thing too, six, five, four, three, two, one. Sally Field. Electra from Pose. yes 10 9 8 7 6 5 5 you got this 4 3 2 1 chi um me right thank you so much to chi for coming out no no no no no you already said you were a care you were very clearly not related you've had 20 seconds

it's just it's like my whole like brand so it's like impossible yeah it's too much to put on top sexiest mom girl oh that's too there's so many Mother Gothel from Tangled Mother Gothel from Tangled

What? No I don't want her to be animated She is Don't say tangled like that A piece of shit No I don't want her to be animated I'm really not into animated mum No nor I like

Oh you're right They're the only moms I'm into You're walking out I'd say the It's really hard actually I mean Motherland obviously is Yeah I know, I mean all of them

Yeah I know But Diane It's Diana We're like all of them but It's always Diana The Liz from Motherland Liz yeah Yeah

What's your problem with animation Just not into animation Liz and Amanda What a hard take I love this I'm just like why is it not I know that lesbians think this Because I mean

There's the whole sort of fandom on TikTok I've never heard this. It's a big thing online. Don't you think Liz could totally pin Amanda up against the wall? That'd be so hard. Liz is so gay though, right? Yeah, agreed. Like, yeah.

And Amanda would have a great time. Yeah. Oh, Amanda. Yeah. Fuck, that's a really hot pairing. I will think about on the way home. Yeah. Gosh.

And in bed tonight. Well, yeah. Tweet us with your hottest mothers. Let's get to get the Farragone. Oh, my God. That's not what that's for. No, but like, have you got a fairer. A fairer gun.

A fairer gun. Yeah, a fairergan. Oh, I'll tell you later. You're about to lose your bloody mind. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. I can't wait. Cheat.

Thank you so much for doing our podcast. We're so grateful. Tell us, where can people watch your show? BBC I player. Wonderful. Tell them what it's called. Things you should have done. Wonderful.

Tell them, are you like to tell us if you have a second series yet? I think so, yeah. It should be. She doesn't have a second series. Could you imagine that was the internet? We're not, yeah. It's over. It's going into radio.

Yeah. Oh my God. Hey, radio's good too. No, this is, yeah, yeah. This is, um, imagine if you got, someone was like, you can have a second series, but it's on the radio. She's like, after going to.

That would be amazing. One epic transition. Oh, my God, Sarah Kendall's in your show. Oh, my God. Sarah Kendall is hilarious. Hot mom alert. Yes, yes, yes. She's so good.

She's so good. But everyone's so good, next. You're writing so good. Thank you so much. No, but they are all... Celine, I love her. They are all so good at like adding stuff. Adding stuff.

Celine, I've never related to a character more than that character. Isn't that not like, I was like, come. I wouldn't want to comment. I feel very soon. I wouldn't want to comment. So angry and I'm like, mm-hmm. Yeah, it's incredible. Okay, and where can people follow you?

Everywhere. Great. Online. All around London. To Olten, to Margate. To Alton, to Margate. On the HS1. Che with the C on Instagram?

Yeah. On TikTok? Yep. On only fans? On only fans? Not yet. Not yet. I got asked to do.

Maybe. No. We don't have time. But I said no. Because I just don't think I have the work ethic. Yeah. Okay. Just assholes though.

No face. Yeah, just like pure clip. I had that picture of that anonymous comedian. Oh my God. I've got something to show you after this. Oh my God. Is it the, is it the, have you seen?

it with that. The poo. The poo. Oh, no. We talked about it on the extras. Never mind. Okay, I've got something to show you after this. We'll talk about it on the extras. You might want to see it. I did not want to see it. But I, okay. How are you with disgusting? Yeah, no, no, it's fine. Okay, I'm not good. Catherine, wrap it up. I've got something to show.

All right. Thank you so much for listening. Give it up, everyone. One more time, please. For Legiik Askin, everyone. Woo! Thank you so much for all the support, particularly from our amazing executive producers. We've even got a new one, Catherine. You dying? I'm dead. I'm bloody dead. RIPIA.

So thank you so much to Guy Goodman, Simon Moore's, Annie Tonner, Stephanie Katracea, Oliver Jago, Anthony Conway, Neil Redman, Madeline Quinn, Rayso O'Reilly, and our newest, Lily. Woo! Yay! Oh, Helen, I'm so sleepy. I wonder if I'll get close. I'm so grateful. Can you be sleepy and grateful at the same time?

You can be sleepy and grateful? If I y'all and I don't want you to think I'm ungrateful, I'm so grateful. I'm just tired from all this podcasting. which we're very glad you support. All right. Are you ready? Here we go. L. Richard Bould, Harold Van Dyke, Tim and Dom, David Walker, Rachel R. Sady Cashmore, Claire, Owen Jones, Jess and Nick, Sarah and Molly, Riafing Cordelia,

Rachel Page, Helen A, Tina, Lindsay, Graham, March, Amy O'Reardon Abbey, Warf, Matt Sims, Luke, Leah, Kate Spencer, Tristan, Liz, Liz, Fours, Taz, Anthony, Clow, Becky Fox, Dean, Michael, Sophie Chivers, Carrie Suze, Charlie A, Casey, Jamraybird, Nathan Smith, Amanda McCall and Tamson, Smith, Harding and Hannah Jay. Thank you.

Thank you all so, so much some new names in there today. Very exciting. We love to see it. Keep supporting. Your boy, yes, you're so good to your mothers. My God.

Yeah, no, truly, thank you so much.