Trusty Hogs - Ep147. Birthdays, Books & Blowjobs
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Hi, it's Helen from Trusty Hoggs with Catherine Bohar here.
Hi, Helen, sweet little baby, Andrew has become a man.
Andrew has a special.
He has a comedy special out and you can watch it.
It is on Andrew Wye, on the YouTube channel.
It's just called Andrew Wye.
It's called Andrew Wye in brackets, but not in a gay way.
Fabulous.
Full comedy special.
I was at the recording of this in Lester.
I was.
I sat right at the back so I wasn't in his eyeline.
It was obviously packed out.
But I was like, I'm not going to be embarrassing.
Don't be a stage, mom.
So I'm like just under the camera.
And it was, Catherine, so funny.
Of course it was.
He's always hilarious.
He's an amazing stand-up.
We strongly recommend you watch it.
You like it.
You share it.
You subscribe.
He deserves it.
And we all know you love him too.
And he loves you.
And we would love if he watched it special.
And yeah, you know the algorithm.
It makes a difference if you comment.
Huge.
You've got to comment, like, everything.
All the clips.
All the love.
Please, please.
So shout out Andrew White.
Episode 147 of Trusty Hogs.
Hello, welcome.
I'm Catherine Bowhart.
She's Helen Bauer.
This is our podcast where we tell you about our frankly perfect lives.
And you write in with all of your little issues.
Oh my goodness, me.
A lot going on for you guys.
And we will help you.
Always correctly.
And everything goes well.
And Andrew's away.
And so is M.
So it's just us and Adam.
We're basically on chaperone.
Hi, Adam.
Hi, Adam.
But we are, I feel like,
parents are away so we've had this once before do you remember was it in Sydney when it was just
the two of us in the room oh god that was bad wasn't it like no one is here to like steer us in a
direction i know like we've got the problems in advance yes so like we know we're going to take turns
reading them to each other i guess we'll have to we must can you read i my reading is so good at the
moment i believe you i'm not sure about mine i haven't done in an ages through the fog
Yeah, you're going to give them your problems and they will solve them
Or maybe they won't and that's your problem
They'll have guests
And Andrew White on the tech
Oh, it's Helen and Catherine as the trusty hogs
Trust the trusty hogs or maybe not
Have I not told you about the book I'm reading right now?
No, what are you reading?
What makes Sammy Gluck?
run. Oh, you have told me about it. Oh, my God, it sounds great. Yeah, it sounds really, really good.
I don't think you did. I think you told me and some, maybe, we surely we hang out occasionally.
This has got to be last Thursday night when we were hanging out having drinks. Yes, yes, yes. After my radio show.
So you were so you won't remember a single thing. I had had one whole wine. Staggering around.
One whole prosceco. A glass of red wine down your front. I actually had one whole prosceco. You're right. I was crazy.
You were a mess. I was crazy. I just think if anyone is, it's, it's a novel from the
40s but like if anyone knows anyone who is like a networker and like very pushy ambitious it is
I love how you making eyes at me like is me no I'm making eyes at you to be like you know who I mean
I know what you mean you know we all know who I mean I know exactly who you mean I also feel like everyone's
got one in their job where they're just sort of like necessary don't necessarily like have like
the best skill set but their networking ability is so high yeah I'm a
obsessed with how obsessed you are with the network is that what we both know.
I'm obsessed with networkers in general.
Yeah, I do think it's a confidence I don't have in my own personality.
I'm like, must work so hard because no one will find me charming.
So I, you know, all due respect, I have to, more importantly though, get to the real issue
of the day.
Go on.
We've had somebody get in touch.
Okay.
And it's a very interesting egg theory.
Okay.
Helen, I had a message after our episode where we discussed how long
and perhaps the last episode we were discussed how long it is we both boil an egg for.
Six and a half minutes for a large egg.
Four and a half minutes for a large egg.
Okay.
And obviously that's confounding, right?
That science doesn't add up.
Why aren't yours hard?
What's going on here?
Mine are soft boiled?
Yeah, minor soft boiled too.
Okay, fine.
And then a very clever hog wrote to me on Instagram and said,
sounds to me a lot like Helen's keeping her eggs in the fridge.
No.
What?
No.
What?
Just on the counter next to the microwave.
What?
And they're coming out soft at six and a half minutes.
Yeah, soft.
Like the yolk is soft but the white is cooked.
Yeah, correct.
For a large egg.
I'm doing that for a large egg too, four and a half and it's cooked.
What's the fridge thing?
Who puts their eggs in the fridge?
No, people do.
And by the way, you're actually not supposed to because of food safety.
Like in kitchens, they do not keep the eggs in the fridge.
It's actually more hygienic to keep them out of the fridge.
But anyway, lots of people keep them in the fridge.
I'm constantly telling my mother
that they don't go in their fridge
but they go on her fridge
but um
parent a parent Catherine
you mustn't ever
but but yes
they
that was their theory
but it turns out
we must just be using
different size eggs
I hate you don't believe me at all
no no I do believe you
but how large are you red
ostrich
oh you were thinking chicken
I was thinking quail
I only do quail
have you had a quail egg
no it's weird
is it
I think I think Ed Knight
once bought me here like a 12 pack of quare legs for like no no reason i think he was just coming
over but he been over like every day for a week and just been at our flat so much that he was like
oh i'll bring a gifty yeah of course so he brought me like a 12 pack of quare legs and i was like
oh the fuck am i going to do with these so i eventually just thought oh make an omelette out of all of them
no you didn't what that's such a funny use of the quails egg what are you supposed to
you're supposed to boil them and like put them on a salad or with like something like asparagus
Yeah, but like why?
Do you know what I mean?
An omelette? How tiny was the omelet?
It was huge because it was all 12.
Yeah, okay, fair enough.
And yeah, it just tasted weird.
It did.
I don't think it's for me.
So it doesn't taste the same as egg egg?
It also felt a bit tougher.
I think the ratio of yolk to whites is higher.
There's more yolk.
Oh, really?
So it doesn't have that sponginess necessarily.
But why did it taste weird?
It just did.
I just remember thinking, but also it might have been,
you know, when you think about something
and then you get it in your head of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I was like, what even is a quail?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, tiny chickens.
Yeah, but like, what's their business?
What's their plan?
Yeah, I don't know.
And I think their name's creepy.
Quail kind of gives me the heby-jee's quail.
Quail.
Like, who ever thought, oh, I'm going to have a quail farm?
Yeah, I also just think it's like, there aren't there people,
what's the bird that people just eat whole?
Is it quails, or is that a different thing?
Do you mean chickens, like in the Philippines, when it's sort of like the
No, no, the tiny one.
No.
The tiny chicken that people eat whole
With the bones?
Yeah
But they're really soft so you can just punch them
I have no idea
But you seem to know so much about it just then
You totally understood
I thought you meant the
You could fathom it
That you can eat
Which is sort of like a chicken that started
I'm sorry
It's all making it feel so sick
You started it
Sorry I got it
You started it
No
Good morning if you're listening to this
Over your breakfast
I made the worst lunch today
Why how bad
I was like in a rush
And I was like
oh, I'll just like use up things in the fridge.
Yeah.
And it was just so minging.
What are we talking?
You're going to think that sounds good.
But it was like, okay, one spring onion.
Okay, so far I'm not sold.
One spring onion.
Like a chunk of cucumber that I cut into little pieces along with a spring onion.
So like just like, so chopped saladty bits.
All my saddled leaves were like wet.
So I had to like get rid of that.
Yeah.
It was like two like two thirds of a packet left over.
And then I had some.
Hulumi and I was like okay I'll fry that yeah and then some hummus and then like well you know one of
those like you know Leon are doing like rice packs now where you can like just like two minutes in the
microwave and it's like Leon rice with like herbs and spices and lemon okay nice it was
the worst tasting blandest dish but it sounds so lovely I put serratia trying to give it flavor and I was
like but I figured out it's because the rice was hot the hummus was cold the Hulumi was a bit
burn. The spring onion has been past as big.
Okay. The cucumber was a bit mushy. It does sound nice though.
It was not good. No, no good. I'm sorry. That's such a shame. And then when I met you in the
cafe just now, your food looked so good. Oh no, you must remember at all times that I'm eating
gluten-free bread. So the eggs were perfect, but the bread was so bad. No. Yeah, it's always so
sad and bad. Are they not figuring out gluten-free bread at all yet? Not really. No one's
nailed it. And on the whole, it's really bad. Like the sourdough bread in our place.
is divine, but the gluten-free bread is just so cardboardy
and kind of just turns into sand in your mouth.
Oh, Catherine.
Yeah, no, it's bad.
My stomach is still not right, so I don't know what is up,
but when we'll find it.
We're figuring it out.
We're going to figure it out.
Yeah, I guess.
It's not process of elimination.
We're putting a new one in.
I wish I could do that.
Can you do stomach transplants?
No, but did you what?
There was apparently a Netflix special about Netflix special,
a Netflix show about, um,
it's a Netflix session.
Yeah, a Netflix show about, um, gut,
health and like had these people eating like their partners like in a tablet form their poo to
change them and I was like I've heard about and if one more person fucking tells me about it
thank you for the messages but if one more person tells me about it I'm like I'm not doing that
I refuse um also I've had a really tough week Helen because um I had a fall you did have a
I had a fall tell everyone what happened in the in the I've really really really really
grazed my elbow like big time it's like out geez it's a massive cut it's a
real like fell over on the playground injury it's very that yeah so basically i was running and i um
didn't see a little tree route oh kathwin i went flying in a way that like usually you fly you like
land on your knees or you'll land on your hands but you're not going to land like i flew so far forward
and just like arms out in the air and just landed completely all along my side and belly and
down my arm and also it's so funny my i was saying to ellen i was like you always think if you're
you would like know to put out both of your hands.
Yeah.
But it's always your dominant hand that goes in instinctively and intuitively.
And she was like, Catherine, only you would be like, when I fall, I'm going to fall properly.
And it's like, yeah, good point, well made.
So controlling.
Yeah.
Even in a fall.
Obviously, if I fell, I would be falling correctly.
So, yeah, that was a harrowing way to learn that about myself.
You just have to enjoy these years of the fall not being a disaster.
It's true.
Because what are you, 57 now?
Like, it is, it's about to change my doll.
Like, soon your fools will be, like, an event.
I hate you, too.
Ain't, not even 36 yet, although I will be.
Actually, by the time this episode comes out, I'll be 36.
That's so wild.
Oh, my God.
Because isn't this coming out on the 15th?
Yeah, 13.
Yeah, 13.
I don't have any birthday plans.
I find it really kind of lame that my birthday is as a friend.
I find it so disappointing.
We had a nice one last time.
Yeah, I just think it's like ultimately
I would love to wake up on my birthday,
do no work and like chill.
And like maybe hang out with friends
but it's like get up, go to work.
I have a writer's day for my radio show
and my actual show show at Edinburgh
and the night before we have a live song
and the night after we have live on.
So I'm kind of just going to act like
it's not really my birthday
and have a nice day when I'm back.
After your show though, you've got free on the 13th.
No, I have to.
The writer's room after.
Yeah.
Dang.
What about dinner evening?
Yeah, I will definitely book a nice dinner.
I will book a nice dinner.
I will book a nice dinner. I must actually get on that.
Do you want me to come or is it going to be a romantic thing?
Will you be there by then?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to make it.
Shall I message Ellen?
Is she doing it this year?
Because I know why I organised it one year.
I will organise it.
I'm just going to book a place for dinner.
I'm just going to book a place for dinner.
Oh, no.
Oh, sorry.
I love being on your dates.
It's so fun.
No, I hate it because I get paid no attention.
I know.
Just you and Ellen.
learning. I'm like, why would
I want that? Ellen love Helen and Helen
love Ellen. I know. It's very cute
but I'd also just, I just thought I'd invite someone for me
to talk to. Oh, who?
Georgie probably. Oh, that's nice. Georgie's so far.
But you don't have to pay us any heed. Don't mind us.
And are you paying?
Oh my God. You are
We can split it if you want. We could just split the bill.
I know it's my birthday, but I'll
pay. I like paying on people's birthdays. Absolutely not.
But yeah, so I think I'll do that. I must
book you've just reminded me oh no now I have to hold in my mind that I've admin for this um
when I'm admin there's so many nice places to eat in Edinburgh yeah there's so many and this comes
out after yeah that's true we can't talk about it now have you been to the angel on the mile
no it's a really nice restaurant I went there once my godfather and auntie came up to fringe
in like 2017 okay my first year and they took me that and it was so loved like a really nice
restaurant. Okay, interesting. I also
love that Indian
on that street. The one with the Spice
Challenge? I don't know. It's like
the street up from the Pleasance. Yes, yes.
What's that place called? I love it there. They've got the
famously hottest curry
ever. I think it's on the Pleasants.
I love it. It's just so delicious.
It's like at the end of Rankela Street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really
like that place. So maybe there and they have that weird
tasting that, um, that cocktail with a
flower that makes your tongue go numb.
What?
Yeah.
Like a bang lassie?
I can't remember what it's called.
No, it's more of a, it's not a lassie.
It's like an actual, in a little coop.
Oh, so it's not actually supposed to be drugs.
It is drugs.
No, it's not supposed to be drugs, but it does make your tongue go like,
oh, la, la, la.
Yeah, a bit of fun.
Well, let's do that.
Yeah, maybe I'll find that.
I'll figure it out.
I'm trying to think where else is good.
There's so many good places in Edinburgh.
I know, but you want somewhere that's like a bit off.
Yeah, that's the problem is that place.
Should we go to the pleasant's courtyard and sit with everyone?
Yes, with a picnic.
Yes.
Yes, please. I'd love nothing more.
Yes. No.
I think it's interesting to be arriving at the fringe halfway through
because I'm wondering what level of weird people will be at.
I mean, I arrived at this point last year.
No, a bit later I did the last two weeks last year.
It was fun.
I arrived and immediately cried.
Why?
Because I arrived, did my first show and then went to see Janine Harunie's show
and then just cried in the courtyard because it was so beautiful and touching.
Yeah.
And then my agent messes to me being like,
oh, are you out tonight?
Like so and so, like wants to meet you or something like that.
And I was like, I'm ordering Domino's!
I'm waiting.
I'm not leaving the house again.
Yeah, fair enough.
Okay, well, hopefully your first night won't be like that
because your first night is hogs, right?
No, first night I'm coming up on the Sunday.
And I have...
11th.
The 11th, because I've got a wedding in Lancaster.
Shout out to Fear and Neil.
Hope it went really well.
I mean, it's so weird this is in the future.
I love it.
I've got a wedding in Lancaster.
and then I'm going up and I'm
dropping my stuff at Anna Grant's house
shout out Anna Grant
thank you for let me stay again
and then seeing Eddie Hare
and Jordan Brooks
great shows to book
right I always forget to book men
well done you
well done you
but you've only book women and I've only book men
so I think I'm the problem
I have yeah I've got
Cat Cow and Olga Cock
I've got Harriet Kemsley
I've booked Emma City
yes yeah I actually haven't booked one single
man yeah there's so many good shows this year
i cannot wait to see chelsea burkeby we had her in the podcast a
yeah and i'm excited to see dallum show
yeah there's so many great shows i'm really pumped
it's going to be good to sophie duker she's a cuteer oh he's so good i don't know
what i was trying to say there i was trying to make cute work with duker but it
came out she's a cucker duca yeah that sounds cute yeah yeah
sort of like a quokka you know shout out to sophie you know shout out to
Can we do it like you do?
Shout out.
Shout out to Sophie.
I think it's a bad habit I've picked up from listening to Slime Country.
Oh, you listen?
I listen to episodes every now and again because like I'm just getting fucking rinsed on them.
Yeah, that makes sense.
It's like a self-harm thing.
But don't you love that you're like the main character in their lives?
Yeah.
Of course you do.
You're obsessed.
Of course.
Well, I can't listen to it because I already see enough of Soneil because as you know, he's on my show.
Yes, I love you two working together so much.
Okay, so if you don't know
I'm making a radio show called TLDR
and it comes out every Friday
but we write the show Monday and Tuesday
and then record it on Thursday
and
Sineal has been doing the like sidekick
bit and he
I think he's off for two weeks and then back for two weeks
but he is so fucking funny on it
and like annoyingly nice
he's so nice
What do you mean annoyingly nice?
I just kind of oh I had him in my head
as like real dour funny
but like quite like
you know like serious
yeah
and actually like
he's just a real softy isn't he
yeah he's just tired around me which is usually
when you see him okay he's worn out
yeah well with a little pep in his step
he's also like just a really soft sweet guy
and I love him so much and also
I don't know if they saw me see them
but there were definitely some hogs in
and when I announced the Neil
they literally did a like jump in a clap
they were like Sineal and I was like this is so nice
And my friends, who also listened to the podcast, Charlotte and Jess, who just got engaged.
I love Charlotte and Jess.
They just got engaged.
Congratulations.
Congratulations on your engagement.
Well, they had come to the first one and, like, afterwards, they were like, we went up and said we were hoggies.
And I was like.
To Sineal?
Yeah.
I was like, you didn't want to say you're my friends?
They were like, no.
And I was like, okay.
You mustn't do that to Sineal.
He's scared of the trusty hogs listeners.
And he should be.
And he should be.
Good, good.
You know, I've been thinking about my engagement.
recently.
Uh-huh.
Because I was,
I listened.
Sorry, what?
You came out as queer
and now you're like,
I'm thinking about my engagement.
Oh God,
this queer journey is mad,
isn't it?
Are you queering marriage?
This was listening to about a queer
engagement that made me think about it.
Oh my God.
What?
I'm jumping in.
I'm jumping.
No.
You are in.
We should address this
because people do message me going like,
oh my God,
what's happening?
Or like, friends have asked me about it.
Really?
I'm like, I still don't know.
You don't have to know.
I don't know.
I think what you know is like you're open to it.
I know I'm, there's like, there's a queerness there.
Yeah.
But like, I don't know if I'm bisexual or pansexual full lesbian.
That'll be a fun twist.
You are not full lesbian.
No, I think I'd know that by now.
All due respect.
Yeah.
You're just not.
But I don't like sucking cock.
Nobody likes sucking cock.
That's the thing.
And there's always a couple of people who are like, I bloody love it.
There's like the rest of us.
There's like the re-game in, I believe.
Sorry, that's it.
No, no, I know a couple of hors from Fleet who are fucking,
gagging for it on my life on my life.
I'll bet you anything now.
They've got hobbies.
You don't think sucking cock is a hobby?
No.
No?
No.
Okay.
I think it's one of those things we're like a bit like
drinking alco pops where you're like the second you're allowed,
the second you know that you could get alka pops any time you want to,
you're like, oh but there's so many better things to drink.
I don't know.
An apple VK still slaps.
Really?
An apple VK.
Are they sort of sour?
Apple vodka cake, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's not for me.
even my face went my mouth is salivating thinking about it i've not had an apple vk in so long my face went
like eat i i cannot do so even like a fizzy haribou makes me like oh yeah fizzy sweets send me like funny
they said i hate them but thinking about that that like made my teeth hurt oh my god should we get some
no i don't have any after shock in here i don't have you ever heard of champagne that exists too
yeah still just okay with it my god i love it so much it is really good but like i still go towards red wine
Oh my God, sorry, can I just say that I actually, I remember them because they brought me champagne once, which is, you know, Ruth always brings us lovely gifts to the hoaggy events. Hi Ruth. She gave me these essential oils, but I didn't open the box that they were in for ages. And then just to open them. They're lime. It's my favorite scent for an essential oil. Have you ever tried it for the mornings? I don't know if I have. I feel like I did go through a phase of lime. Wakes you right up.
Really?
Yeah, it's so nice.
What do you do?
Like, shut it or?
No.
No, I just, I just, um...
Smell it?
Yeah, just waft it under my nose.
Like a petite lady smelling salts.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
It's so nice.
But it's like, really nice as well because I'm off caffeine, as you know, and it's like,
fuck me, the mornings are a little bit trickier.
Although, actually I am getting up more easy.
I don't know why I say that.
I actually, everything's easier, but I'm trying to like, not be a, like, my dad always
says there's nothing more pure than a reformed hewer.
And it's like...
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You have to translate the Irish
Because no one fucking knows
In Irish, you can make pure
And hoar rhyme
There's nothing so pure as a reformed hooer
Whereas you so
And that's what I feel like
When I feel like I'm like proselytizing
When I talk about not being on caffeine anymore
I'm sorry to say it
Yeah, do you know if you never heard of it?
I've never heard of it say it one more time
Because I'm enchanted
There's nothing so pure as a reformed heller
Can I try it?
Go on
There's nothing so.
so pure as a reformed pure.
It's close enough. It's as close as we're going to get
and we'll take it. I've got a question
history-wise, but you've got a degree in it, so you'll know.
What was the original smelling salt smell?
I thought it was
um, oh, Andrew, can I Google? Because Andrew would.
Yeah, because it can't have just been salts. No, it's not.
I thought it's, I thought it's just like fart in their face and I'll wake them up.
Like, why are we buying smelling salts?
What were smelling salts? I thought it was a drug. I thought it was a
drug also if you want to wake lady up why don't you just dump a bottle of water on top of her
smelling salts was a bit of like a long way around do you know what I feel like I don't think
I've ever woken because of a smell okay smelling salts also known as ammonia in haylands
ammonia that's piss spirits of heart heart chorn or salvolatil are chemical compounds used
a stimulants to restore consciousness after
fainting. Wow. So it's urine?
It's a release of ammonia, gas.
Oh, so it is farting in their face.
Essentially. I knew those doctors were kinky as fuck.
Whoa, that's so great. They're like, oh no, she's fainted.
Let me just, I'm going to quickly fire in her face.
Like, it's nothing sexual.
And it can increase a person's blood pressure, heart rate and oxygen levels,
helping brain activity and reactivating the sympathetic nervous system.
Wow.
whoa
but do you think it really works
do you wake up because of a scent
apparently some footballers still use it before
the matches because it gives you a burst of energy
should we see if you can get a bottle
on the web for you before shows
before we go on stage
no thank you
I was on stage the night at the store
and I was talking at a pace that I
like and I knew what had happened
there were four Irish lads in the front row
and I just get
once I see there's Irish people in
it's like I gain steam
I'm like I have full permission now
somebody can understand the pace
I'm speaking at, there's no slowing down.
I don't have to do this for English people.
Believe it or not, yes, me on stage is me slowing down
for English people. So I was like, off at full
throttle. And honestly,
I knew I was speaking fast, but then at one point I just went, I don't drink
caffeine, and it got such a big laugh
that I was like, okay, I'm mad. I do not need
smelling salts or any sort of stimulants. Thank you so much,
please, and thank you.
Focus your mind, though, into like not speaking.
You'll be, like, measured.
I'd love to be.
I can't imagine it, though.
I just can't fathom it.
You can't fathom being, like, measured on stage.
No.
Me neither?
No.
I think it was really throw me off.
When I'm tired on stage, like, if I'm sleepy, I'm weird.
I love, I get nervous performing sleepy, but usually it does go well.
There's something about like that heightened adrenaline focus being like just this time.
Yeah.
I did a work in progress on Saturday, just for fun, just doing like hours here and there.
And thank you to everyone who came.
But it's like, there's something, I went on stage and I started off like really like,
blah blah and I was like I've got I had a five page document of new ideas to get through I actually said on stage calm down helen it's okay yeah yeah I said it out loud that's so funny I need to slow it down or I'm not going to get these things out the way I want also there's a tendency with working progresses when you're like so not close to start in the new show to be like oh there's no rush to try out all this new stuff so you sort of like you can slip into old stuff or I know I do sometimes
like a comfort blanket.
Yeah.
And it's like,
whew.
Helen,
I had to get the producer
and to be fair,
they actively wanted to do
of my radio show
to put in capital's
slow down on every single
page of the script.
And they took the liberty
of putting an exclamation mark
before and after
to slow down.
Before.
Before.
Before.
So yeah,
I get it.
I really do get it.
But do you feel like
talking fast
has come and benefit
for like so many things
because like we've both
written scripts before
like sitcom scripts.
I'm doing one at the moment.
And okay,
it's supposed to be
the goal is around 25 pages.
Yeah.
It's currently 46.
Classic.
But they're not taking into account.
How fast me and the other cast will talk?
I put at the top of a script pitch or when I got the script commission on a series for the first pilot, I wrote, please read as Irish, by which I mean double pace.
Like there's no, you can't, exactly, like you can't predict.
What are you talking about?
Like double speed is Irish.
I would love it.
the people at the BBC or Channel 4
or like wherever. We're like, please
read as Irish. Okay.
Order, order, water,
just like, super. That's a horrible
impression by the way. That felt enaboardic.
During the Fiddly, Didly D thing in the south.
Like, just a lot of them.
It's so funny.
Have you gotten more into the Olympics?
I have. Oh, I'm obsessed.
Oh, Catherine.
I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed.
There is a
fantastic 400 metre women's runner who's
absolutely Adelaika is actually
just spectacular from Ireland she's amazing
I think I saw this morning God she was so
incredible and you know that
one of those ones who like runs 400 metres and then looks like
she's barely broken a sweat and then the interviewer was
like how did you find that she's like it was so fun
and you're like oh my god you're like a
but I love it so much
but my friends Kate and Anna are over
and we were watching
we were watching the Olympics this morning we were watching
the gymnast and Kate made a very funny point
which is just that like the amount of
times you're watching it
you're like
fucking how
are they doing it
this is like
a feat of the human
body this is incredible
like honestly we were
we were watching them
like on those rings
when they like throw themselves
and you're like
it is inexplicable to me
that the human body can do this
this is astonishing
and they're on the bars
and the way they like
the uneven bar
our arms are like backwards
what are you talking about
they're like rolling
between backwards arms
we're like you watched it
and you're like
the human body is incredible
how is this man doing this
and then you cut to the commentary
and the commentary is just like
well a lot of mistakes there
are we like what are we what
oh that's embarrassing
so don't ruin it shut the fuck up
we don't know truly it's just being like
I don't know about that and you're like what
that was incredible and that is
truly me watching every Olympic sports
I'll be like oh my god and they're like
and that was the gymnast warming up
and I'll be like what
the warm up what
it was so good I'm loving it so much I'm obsessed
I'm so glad the athletics have started
the 100 meter final was
amazing
I watched some of the BMXing
oh my god everyone loves the BMXing
it's not for me I don't get it
it was the it was the Jordie Grandad
did you see this
there was like a little like carousel on Instagram
of like the most heartfelt Olympics moments so far
oh my God and it was just like
Geordie Grandad and his I think grandson
I think he won gold or silver he got a medal
that's right he was like
he's the best grandson I could have asked for
and he's like really struggling to get through
the interview
and it's just, oh, it's so...
I will watch that later.
Apparently there was a high jumper
who didn't get over his high jump
because of his penis swung into it.
Did you see this?
I thought that was like a joke article.
No, I don't think so.
But his full cork?
I think he had a bit too much swing on the old dog.
I mean, but also like...
Well, that's what I was going to say.
I'm like, oh no, but like no one's remembering who came back.
I didn't win Olympic gold because my dick's too big.
No one's remembering who got silver.
Everyone remembers that guy who's like, sorry,
you're the guy with the like,
donkey dick who couldn't get over the...
Hello?
Should have just on Polovald?
Nonetheless.
What a great reason.
I know, right? You remember that guy.
Yeah.
The Paralymp, sorry, the Olympics, I have been watching it.
I do struggle with the lack of representation of big-titted women, just in general.
Oh, you need to watch the rugby teams.
I've followed Elona Mara.
Yeah.
As if you're not queer.
as if you're not queer.
I just like happened to be following
the hottest woman in rugby ever.
She is. And her sister's also an influencer.
Apparently her sister invented girl dinner.
Do you know, girl dinner, girl dinner.
That was her sister.
Apparently that was a sister like she's an influencer.
They're like an influencing talent family.
I was like what the fuck is happening?
She's great, isn't she?
But they don't even have like, they're not like insanely waabbed, are they?
I mean, they've got waabs.
I just think like the only thing standing in between me
and being one of these world-class athletic persons
is my text.
Have you watched Hammer Throw?
No, have they got Tiddy?
Yeah.
Sleigh.
Big time.
I'll watch it.
Big time.
I'll watch it.
I want to know what bras like you're saying.
Discus?
Discus.
Oh, that's the old old one, isn't it?
Yeah.
But Hamletrow, they have some serious whamps.
Have you been to the old Olympic place in Athens?
Like the original Olympic Games place?
No, I haven't.
It's cool.
Although I listened to, um,
I listen to sports agents, which is so good.
It's the newsagents for sports.
Okay, I'm actually, I'm joining Andrew on this.
You listen to too many podcasts.
Every single week, you've got like three new recommendations.
Well, I've always listened to newsagents and the sports agents every day whenever they come out.
Sports agents are only a couple times a week.
How are you doing that?
It's just the way I get my news.
And also, I really hate silence and I run and walk a lot.
I hate silence.
I hated so much.
But those are the ones I don't miss.
to be fair.
And so I won't like
bulk listen to those
I'll listen to those
as I go
but sports agents
is great
but they were talking
to the rowers
from the UK
from British rowing
who won the gold
and they were talking
about just that
they were talking about
how they're trying
to get sports bras
for all kinds of bodies
because it's a big reason
teenage girls drop out
because you don't get
like enough support
especially in their kit.
That's thing
and if we're moulding cups
to their dicks
why can't we doing it for the test?
Yeah, so they're working on it.
That's a really exciting moment.
Yeah, British rowing are on it.
It's very exciting.
It's really pretty interesting.
They were also talking about how it's so interesting how they're doing,
obviously lots of the sporting information they have around athletes
is based on their, they're having previously done research into men,
and men's sports, because they have more data, right?
So the more women who do sports, the more data they have to access,
and also the more money that they're in women's sports,
the more research they can do scientifically around it.
and so they're doing this stuff on like
like so apparently there's way more
ACL injuries in football
in women's football at certain
times of the month and similarly
you get more bone issues in women
or like hip and knee issues
in sports people who are women
but often it's particularly around a different time
of their hormonal
cycle so it's so which makes
sense right like the week before my period
I can lift so much heavier I can run
so much further the week
of I'm like a sensitive little being
Wait
Our bones get weaker
When we're bleeding
Apparently
Shut the fuck up
I don't know that's quite right
But it's like there's yeah
Your bone
It's like
Everything's more sensitive
And it includes that
Isn't that crazy
That just feels really bizarre
The idea that your bones
Could like lose calcium
Is it I don't know
I think so but yeah
They yeah it's crazy
But it makes some sense
I guess
But they're I don't know
enough about it my point is that they are doing research into it which is cool goes back to what i've been
saying for years and i'm sick of being told i know what you're going to say stay home if you're bleeding
don't go out it makes people uncomfortable it's inappropriate stay home stay on the pot and you know
you're going to injure yourself love and i'm sick of saying that you know just stop it why are you
running on your period how much you run into a man and the smell makes him uncomfortable it's horrendous
sometimes you go in the tube and it just smells like pennies what's happening here what if you distract people
dogs yeah great oh there's one walking coin purse is it why's i doing in why's i join in because i'm
sick of it yeah so you know we should have special lady olympics we'll watch the tides we'll watch
the tides and we'll be like gone run ties out run i bet you loads of the olympians would
fucking love it for it was a different time it was on like based on one of their fucking like period
is on oh my or you could just pick when you want to do it yeah and then you just send in your
times yeah like you film it on a camcorder yeah there'd be no
problems with that and you could definitely, there'd be no problems with that
and you could definitely tell that everyone was doing it fairly
and it'd be fine. Everyone would do it. How would you
cheat on that? No, no, and whatever. No, whatever.
Because you, let's say you have to run
holding. Cheating and sport, I can't imagine it.
You have to run holding a clock that's
counting down on the entire. And today's
newspaper. And today's
newspaper. Nailed it.
Start my little blood coming out at the beginning.
Oh, never mind. Helen.
Good Lord.
So yeah, that's what I'm up to, watching the Olympics.
what else are you up to
you're just in very different faces of life
so it just feels really weird
like you're doing a radio show
you're touring you're about to do a big Edinburgh
I'm doing three days at Edinburgh
and then I'm doing two weeks
I feel like I'm sauntering in an end
you're not sauntering I'm sauntering I'm sauntering
I'm writing I'm writing lots which is annoying
because I can't really talk about it on here
I mean you know about it
but I'm just doing stuff for fun
oh my God I'll tell you what I did do
I've taken a gig
at like, from what I can
gather, like a medieval
times event. I'm going to need you
to say it way more. There's a jousting
event. No. What are you talking?
Ye oldy times. Sorry, where is it?
Night. Billingshurst. I don't know.
I haven't googled it. What is Billingshurst?
Sign me up. I'm going to Google Billingshurst.
Billingshurst. I feel like it's Sussex. It feels
Sussexie. And it's a call
to what? I don't know.
And your, why would
you be involved no offense they were like would you like to come and do we're going to put
on a comedy show around the jousting and i was like tell me no more i shall be there and um a village
and civil parish in the horsham district of west lossoc england great that's close
billinghurst medieval yes festival oh yes lockswood joust
by any chance?
That sounds right.
That sounds right.
Does it look good?
The Loxwood Jouse.
This will be coming out before that event, actually.
So please do come and see me there.
The UK's most spectacular, immersive medieval festival, the Loxwood Joust.
Are you dying?
I was dying.
Transport to an unforgettable time in West Sussex.
Wow.
It's not the largest medieval festival in the UK, because that is, of course, the Chukesbury Medieval Festival.
Come on, everyone say it together.
I've never been to a medieval.
Actually, no, once in Fleet, one year, there was, no, it wasn't medieval.
It was like, I think I've tried to do something Roman.
I think it was Roman times.
Oh my God, I've just seen the font.
Is it amazing?
I needed to Google the font choice.
Enter the magical kingdom of the joust.
Come on, but they're doing a comedy tense.
I got a message from lovely comedian, do you know Tom Bell?
Yes.
So funny.
Being like, hey, look, I'm doing this event.
Like, would you be up for doing it?
it. Wait, I have to read you something.
Yes.
How will you explore the kingdom of
Lockswood? Perhaps you'll start in the
woodlands, mingling with its mystical
inhabitants, al-cass of the town.
Or maybe rub shoulders
with the salt of the earth townsfolk,
who bring history to life with their crafts and wares.
Secure your seat at the banqueting
table alongside the royal family.
Solve a mystery or two, and
listen to spectacular live music
hand-picked by the queen herself.
However you plan your day,
just be sure to cheer loudly during
a joust for our knights need your support more than ever this year. What? Do you reckon I should
remark my comedy set into ye oldy English? One thousand percent. Because I know a couple of the
words like fuck is fie. They're actually jousting on real real horses. Have you seen these
they did this at the Lambeth Country Fair each year. They do a jousting competition in
Brockwell Park. These costumes are divine. It's a full thing.
thing. It's giving a night's tale. Oh my god, Bronisie Titley. Have you seen this? She wrote
the musical version of A Night's Tale is opening in Manchester. Stop. Yeah. We've had her on
the podcast, Brona C. Titley. She's incredible. She's just written the musical A Night's Tale.
We are living in the golden age of musicals. We're living in the golden age of women.
And women are musicals. Have you seen they're doing Drop Dead gorgeous as well? Yeah,
having Michelle Brasier's in it. I'm dying. I'm literally, I loved that film.
it's crazy
so intensely
and so is at Diana Vickers
stop
yeah
divine
this is
oh what
I can't believe
we're all alive
at this time
I know
it's a really special time
well you've made it
you've made it
you're best years
I know
congratulations
oh my god
I really hope
some hogs come
to the medieval village
wouldn't that be so fun
it's on
on the one hand
yes
on the other hand
then they'd have to be
at the medieval
it's gonna
what's wrong with you
what's the only thing
I'm nervous about
Hog roast.
I'm checking.
I've messaged my friends Alice and Francis to be like, hey, random one, do you want to come
with me?
Because I think it'll be like, it's like a fun friend day.
Neither of them have responded, but they both have read it.
Wait, who was it?
Alice and Francis.
That's very funny.
Oh, people camp.
They did ask me if I wanted to stay in camp, but I am so allergic to horses.
I feel like I need to go in and out because I think it's going to be pretty rough on the day
anyway.
I'll take my drops, my sprays, my tablets, my tablets.
and the inhalers.
God, you're not an outdoors woman, are you?
No, I think I'm going to be very ill,
but having such a lovely time.
I want to drink mead.
The story of Lockswood.
Well, there's two bars,
so I'm sure you'll be able to get out one of them.
Uncover the legacy of the boar.
The boar?
Having reclaimed her kingdom,
our good Queen Helena.
Huh?
Wait, do you think they ever asked me
because I'm going to be the queen?
Has returned to Lockswood to a land of peace.
And plenty.
Well, almost.
The royal coffers are looking rather empty,
mainly thanks to its previous ruler, Lord Villian,
who spent it all locking people up for unauthorised smiling.
You're there to make people smile.
Oh my God, do you think I'm part of the story?
Like they're doing a comedy tent to be like, don't smile.
Oh, that's going to be hard.
Still, recovering from his tyranny,
the poor folk of lockswood desperately need a morale boost.
Even the honeybees seem slower than normal.
to run out of mead would be disastrous.
You just said mead.
Luckily, our queen of the mead
knows exactly what the town needs
to resurrect the ancient local
celebration of the boar, which pays
tribute to the origins of jousting
in Lockswood.
And then there's a tiny little asterisk
and then the asterisk down the bottom of the page says,
apparently.
I am gagging for this, Catherine.
I am obsessed with this actually.
I do actually think this will be stuff, and it's reminding me of,
you know this, you know, Luke,
sister in Gilmore Girls
Yes, what's her name?
I don't know, she would sell the stuff of the fair
Yeah, she's got all the medieval fairs
And oh my god, what is her name?
Oh, she goes out with TJ.
Yeah, Liz.
Liz, yes, well done.
That was really impressive.
I couldn't get there, I couldn't get there.
Yeah, that was good.
But yeah, so that's going to be you, that's exciting.
I can't believe it.
I'm not that surprised they haven't texted back to be honest.
So that's what I'm doing this summer,
just doing gigs like that.
I'm just wanting this summer just to do those little fun things in life,
but it is freckin weird.
I know when you're used to being in Edinburgh every year, it's very bizarre,
but you're by the time you'll be up there.
It's more like...
And Helen, I can just know, I can see it already.
You're going to get to day three of the fringe and be like,
get me the fuck out of here.
And I'm going to be like, I have to stay.
Take me with you.
I'm going to be leaving you.
I, when, because you did that to me earlier this year,
It's like when you left in Sydney, do you remember?
And I still had to go to Brisbane and Pear.
Oh my God, yes.
And I waved you off.
I love that you talked that as me doing it to you.
No, no, but just like, I know that feeling.
I know that feeling of being like, oh, it's all fine.
It's all fine.
Like my buddy.
I've got my buddy.
And like, obviously we've still got bodies up there.
But it's just sort of like, I remember you being like, oh, like it's my last day.
And being like, oh, don't go.
Oh, no.
Don't go.
That was so much worse.
I felt so bad because it was just then just like three of you or something left after
everyone had been in 10.
It was so few of you left.
weird watching you like go away and katherine did that whole like she decided to walk to the airport
just walking down the street with her hand out like no i was like did i and then i was like wait a second
no i didn't um we need to do a problem oh wait i've got a problem um we'll do it in the extras i'll do it in
the extras um are you ready for it yes oh my god i just saw the picture for this episode we look
very cute but i absolutely love that you've gone spread you can just look at the photo
Go on Instagram, follow Trustee Hoggs on Instagram
and Helen Bauer and Catherine Bowhart
and Andrew White. Thank you.
Hi, Trustee Hoggs, O here.
Oh, no, wait, aren't you going to ask me
what sort of advice giver I am?
Oh my God, I'm so sorry, Helen.
Hey, Helen, do you have any friends
who come to you with problems
that they need advice on?
24-7.
Whoa, and what kind of advice
do people come to you for?
And what kind of advice do you think you give?
I'd say the best advice I give,
it's it's honest it's calm
it's rational
I like to present people with options
and allow them to pick it
and let them know that they are loved
with whichever choice they make
really no
genuinely never thought about us before
I don't know why you asked
I told you to ask me
I love that you were like I don't know why you ask me
I know I don't know why I think I'm
I think people do come to me
not so much with problems but for rants
yeah and if they need like
advice that pertains to removing water from the ground
in places that they might hide a man.
Those are, you've got those bases covered.
I can do the extremes that everything else is just sort of like,
um, what will be will be, good luck.
What I do like about you as an advice giver,
because I do come to you for advice,
is that you, regardless of whatever mad shit you advise,
you will always be as outraged, if not more outraged,
on my behalf than I am,
which is so cathartic and so comforting when you have a problem.
I'll be like, this thing has happened and you'll be like,
Helen will light up a cigarette and be like
she said what
to you to my girl
to my baby Catherine
I'll be like
why oh yeah she didn't inhale and would be like
it's like when I was livid earlier
when I found out when you fell over people laughed
I was like give me fucking names
I know you were I kind of had to be like oh no it's fine
it's fine but I love you for that
I love you for it I'm talking about that on stage a bit
because I'm like I am a people pleaser but I think everyone thinks
that's you complimenting yourself and it's like we are spineless fucking weasel yeah like you
want a bitch about someone if you want a bitch about my best friend i'll fucking do it to make you feel
better right in front of me yeah no worries no spine there fucking yeah yeah fucking state of them
best mates couldn't give a shit so true well we're we're fucking awful okay well with that in mind
can i ask you what sort of advice giver you are please oh i think i say everything the person wants
to hear also spineless um with a little hint
of acting like I know what the fuck I'm talking about
everything which isn't true
you do have that
debate quality yeah it's like an era
of authority that is actually just
bullshitting and
I
lack perspective entirely
when it comes to rage you are very good at being like
you'll be furious on my behalf and then instantly
be able to think about it from the other person's point of view
I the other person doesn't exist
they've never had a point of view
they're not a whole person when I'm angry
that's so true whenever we get into it or we're talking about anything like but i think that's quite
annoying that i always want to consider the other person's perspective no but it's so nice we think it might
diminish no no it's good whereas i don't even know that they have i forget that they have a perspective
that they're a person with most bastard yeah yeah i'm yeah yeah yeah so i'm thrilled that yeah we're a good
balancing to act i think in that regard i hope so um hi trusty hogs hi hi trusty hogs oh here hi oh hi oh
recently found the podcast by seeing Catherine on LOL Ireland
That's so nice
And I've been watching every episode since
Oh my God, thank you for watching
Wait, I'm waving straight down the lens to you right now
It's the middle one, it's the middle one
This is my first ever time writing in a problem
I'm a 23 year old and have never had sex or been in a relationship
I'm a lesbian but live in rural Ireland
Oh no
Oh no
So my options are very limited
I have been on dates
but they have just been awkward and felt more like friends
I feel so behind compared to all my friends
and worried that I won't be good
or that no one will find me attractive
any help would be great
I feel embarrassed even writing this
thank you
oh you do not need to feel embarrassed writing this
genuinely first of all
no one says it but you are not alone
like so many of us
I was 20 when I lost my virginity
19 or 20 and that's like
I know that you'll probably be going, yeah, but 23 years older, yeah, but like, I know
loads of people who didn't lose their virginity until well into their 20s.
I'm 33, and I'm yet to be with a woman.
Yeah, exactly.
There you go.
And also, it's just not a race.
I know it feels like it is right now, but it really, really, really isn't.
I think, um, also the idea that you won't be good.
Like, first of all, I didn't, yeah, lots of us didn't have sex with women until we're
much older and it is a different thing anyway.
so like the idea that anyone's good at it but also like oh the truth is you'll be grand at
it and these things we learn and anyone you're with who's worth being with when it happens
and I do mean when because it definitely will will be patient and understanding it does take a while
to learn someone else's like body and what they like and what you do together and that's true
if you've had sex before or not yeah it just is like to be honest with you anyone who's like
Things are good at sex.
I'm a bit like, you don't, that is so person to person dependent.
Like, that doesn't make any sense.
Like, what you need to be, to be good in bed is a good listener.
You need to be a good communicator.
You need to be patient.
And hungry.
No, you need to be patient.
I'd say hungry.
I'd say hungry.
No, you need to be patient and you need to be present.
And those are all things you can practice without having sex.
With a therogon, blast your clip up.
they are things you can practice with your act with sex toys for sure but they're also just like things you can practice in friendship they're things you like truly i mean this like people who don't listen are not good sexual partners because like they're not responding to how you respond or take instruction i think honestly i think queer people also like often do come to sex later because they haven't met people or they didn't know their sexuality so you won't be alone in that to the rural ireland point sweet jesus what are you going to do about this oh because when we're
wow, I really get it.
There is a dart of lesbian presence.
Like an absence of...
Okay, okay.
A lack of lesbian presences.
And it's also very confusing
because everyone's wearing boot cut jeans,
everyone's wearing a track suit,
everyone's in a GAA kit.
My darling, like, it's so confusing.
It's a GAA kit.
Gay-lick football.
See, there's so much we can learn.
All of which it's like, yeah,
it's screaming gay, it's giving gay,
but sometimes it's just a girl your cousins with.
And that's the other problem is you're half related
to every fucker in your town.
so that's going to be a situation where I think you pop on the apps and you go to Dublin for the weekend
you've got to travel yeah but there's nowhere in Ireland that's so long that you can't travel
like if it's I think it's worth it for a bit of like meeting women but also maybe start by not
meeting people for dates like it's so much pressure especially if you're putting that pressure
on yourself of being like I haven't had sex yet those dates are probably going to be awkward
I mean it doesn't sound like you've met someone you're attracted to yet but but also bear that in mind right
Like you could make some friends
and then that will,
they'll know other queer women
and that would be good.
But bear in mind, right?
I think this is something really important
that you said in your email.
You were like,
I'm worried no one will ever find me attractive.
That's the main point that stood out to me.
But you also said in your email
that it was more friends vibes for you
and a couple of,
on those dates.
You didn't then say,
so I'm worried those girls
will never be found attractive.
Sometimes, like loads of,
most people you don't find attractive.
Like, majority of,
you're like more people will be unattractive to you or neutral to you than they will be
attractive it's a rare thing so it's like they'll find people who find them attractive even if it's
not you and you will find people who find you attractive even if it's not them that will
definitely happen there is more than one person for everyone loads of people and also people are
into every kind of other person like there are so many types of people having sex I promise
you that will happen but I know it's hard not to be impatient and I do
get it that it's so difficult
as a queer person but I think
going to Dublin with the apps on
and trying to make
some queer friends is
really, really a really good place to
start without the pressure
of this having to be sex
and then
I'm getting to know your own body
I think really really trying to figure like what you
like sexually by yourself
is a really good help for that when you are
in that situation
you're not like what do they like
And what do I like?
And what is a body?
Like, the good thing about being queer is
you've got all the equipment you need to practice on.
Yeah.
Like, if you can make yourself come,
you're in a pretty good...
You're starting from a good spot.
I just think it's so hard, though.
Like, if you don't feel attractive
to be able to put yourself out there
is just impossible.
And as a thing of being, like,
someone will find you attractive
because you are attractive.
Everyone has so many attractive qualities.
And what is attracted to one person
until it's been proven to you
yep you just there's just
no way of believing it well it should already be proven to you
because people presumably agreed to go on those dates
but if you don't believe it you don't believe it
that's the thing oh totally but that
and until someone's chosen you
but I disagree I don't think if you don't feel
attractive I don't think having sex
necessarily makes you feel attractive
someone chosen you as far as like having a relationship
having someone say like I want to
be with you publicly and show you off
I think there's a tricky thing though you can
conflate those too. I think if you are if you need if you are like I'm not attractive unless
somebody chooses me that speaks to like a low self-esteem and then I think like somebody choosing you
doesn't always make it feel like you make you feel like you are attractive it just often makes
you feel like I have to hold on to this because they're the only person who's ever found me
attractive or the only person who ever would and it's quite like codependent and I actually think
that like you are attractive and that is worth knowing by yourself. I haven't seen a picture but I think
you're so fat. She's 23.
I think you're so fair. Yeah, but also
23. Yeah. I don't think that you're
fucking gorgeous. But I also just think... You're beautiful
oh. You're bloody beautiful. But I do
think it's worth knowing that in yourself so that when you
get into relationships, you're not so
grateful that you will
let yourself be treated whatever way.
Because I definitely didn't think I was attractive.
Was chosen, as it were. It didn't
make me feel like I was more attractive. It made me feel
more like I had to put up with bad behavior.
Mm-hmm. So that's something
that you deserve to know by yourself.
I think it's just, yeah, how do you
learn to like have that love and respect for yourself?
Yeah.
And you're 23 and I'm hoping you, oh, I'm 33, I haven't taken it out, so I don't know.
It's hard.
It's tricky, but I think it will be learned
and like it's so hard to realize that there are people out there
and you're going to have, you're going to have good sex,
you're going to have bad sex.
Often it's nothing to do with you.
You'll have some sort of boring sex sometimes.
You're going to have so much boring sex.
Yeah, but it's just like, if everybody else around you wasn't doing it yet,
would you be beating yourself up?
No.
So why do you have to go by their timeline?
Just fudge yourself in the fields.
Right, yeah, that's thought.
Yeah, why not?
You know what?
Purn ordering, get some toys.
I do think that.
And also, when you order sex toys, you can opt for private packaging.
You must.
You must.
You must.
You're in rural island.
Discrete packaging.
and you do not need the postman
who's probably also the butcher
who's also probably your cousin
knowing what you've got arriving.
Go to a field, get under a tree,
get under a bush, hands down.
We have bedrooms.
Do you? Good for you guys.
Shad with many siblings.
The Catholic way.
No, no, no. She'll probably have her own, I'd say.
I've got a Catholic question,
art in a minute.
Yeah.
But, you're 23 and it's going to be so good.
It's going to be so good.
And also, I know some very successful people
and like people who just genuinely thought it was never going to happen
who lost the virginities in their 30s, well into their 30s.
Read Rebel Wilson's book.
Yeah.
Read that.
That actually, that's it.
Read that.
That's a good solution.
Get the audio book.
Okay, great.
And check out when the next spinster night is on.
That's a good queer night in Dublin.
It's called spinster.
It's called spinster. So good.
And also, yeah, find out where your local queer community are.
There has to be when I'm sure whether that's the women's hockey team.
team, the vegetarian restaurant, maybe you're so rural that there isn't one of those.
But you know what I mean?
There's some, there's somewhat, there's got to be some, some people around.
And if there isn't, sometimes, and this sucks, you might be the one that starts it.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
You might be the starter.
Yeah.
And I think it should be called the trusty hogs club.
I love that, but I don't think it will necessarily get the members you want.
And you get together.
No, in rural Ireland, you can't have a trusty hogs club.
It'll just be a loads of lads shown up with their most reliable pig.
do not do that oh my god do it do not do that
could you want
there is nothing more charming
oh she caught no we've got a nice sow outside
then oh age 23
super excited to meet some lesbians
putting up the signs booking a room in a pub
and then in come like ten lads
called Kean holding their favourite pigs
some of them would be called PJ
holding their favourite pigs and her being like
yep this is it I'm fucking
I'm getting the ticket to Dublin.
Yeah, sometimes you've got to move.
Sometimes you got to move.
Hey, will you let us know how you get on?
No, because I'm desperate to know,
and we wish you all the best,
but you're not in a race with anybody.
Yeah, let us know how you get on.
Oh, we'd love to hear.
I've got a new queer revelation to tell you,
but I'll do it in the extras.
Oh, there's a tease.
There's a tease.
But I'm just, it's only because, like,
we might have to cut it from the extras.
Oh, my God.
Well, meet me over there to see if it happens,
but I'm going to get it out of her.
So don't you worry.
We'll see you in the extras.
If you're on Patreon, we'll see you there.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Ellen, the other day said, oh, like, is it you're like,
Patriarchs?
And I was like, what?
I was like, that's genius.
The Patriots, the, the, the, the, the hogs who are on Patreon are our Patriots.
Patrohogs.
Our petrogs.
If you're a patron hog, we'll see you on the Patreon extras.
Isn't that cute?
Yes.
Thank you so much for listening and have a wonderful.
of your day, night life.
Goodbye.
Bye.
Thank you.