Trusty Hogs - Ep15. SUNIL PATEL / Make Overs, Mash & M&S

Episode Date: January 13, 2022

Helen's long suffering housemate (and brilliant comedian in his own right) Sunil Patel joins us for an eye-opening, hilarious, and insightful chat...Thank you so much for listening! Support us at http...s://www.patreon.com/TrustyHogs for exclusive bonus content, merch, and more! Trust us with your own problems and questions... TrustyHogs@gmail.com Please give us a follow @TrustyHogs on all socials Be sure to subscribe and rate us (unless you don’t like these little piggies - 5 Stars only!)Thank you to our Patreon supporters...EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Simon Moores / Guy Goodman / Janinna Bautista / Mary FoxPRODUCERS: Richard Bicknell / SBDubz / Elle / Richard Bald / Neil Redmond / Victoria Hutchison / Emma Walton / Karen Bull / Harald van Dijk / Kierah Leach / Tim & Dom / David Walker / Rachel R / Lee Myerscough / Anthony Conway / Sadie Cashmore / Claire Owen-Jones / Kim Dubhghaill / Jess & Nick / Zoë / Jo Holmes / Caitlyn Lyth / Aideen McQueen / Sarah & Molly / Carrig Duke / Melissa Dunkeld Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to episode 15 of episode 15 of trusty hogs. Welcome. No, Helen, whiny. It's so cute. I feel like we've just discussed this enough. Like, it's time to just bring it back and let it be. By the way, have you seen my teeth? I have seen your teeth.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Are they super clean? I got a dental cleaning. A dental hygienist. It was incredible. They look really good. It was my first time in three years. That's bad, isn't it? Used me what now?
Starting point is 00:00:25 First time to go to the dentist in three years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it was like COVID, so I felt like, oh, there's no point. going. And also I've never had any problems with my teeth. I've never had fillings or anything. That's not why. Well, first, several things. One, COVID didn't prevent anyone going to the dentist. I think it did.
Starting point is 00:00:39 It didn't. I went every six months during it. I actually had some of my appointments cancelled because of COVID. Thank you, Andrew. But Andrew, you still managed to do enough that you got braces during COVID and that you did have regular checkups. Am I right? You just moved them around. Yeah, I suppose. But that's an orthodontist. Yeah, it's their separate
Starting point is 00:00:55 departments. Oh, please. Secondly, you're supposed to get checked every six months I know but I feel like one of those things like if you do it every six months you don't feel the benefit whereas if you do it every three
Starting point is 00:01:05 if you do it every three years then you leave and you're like oh that's disgusting also my teeth are fine he was like he was a really nice central genus I've never met him before but he was clearly in a rush
Starting point is 00:01:19 because he had loads of appointment so he was like really jamming and going for it but he didn't want to stop you know when you face winces because it's a bit sensitive or it hurts for a second And he wouldn't stop.
Starting point is 00:01:29 He would just go, are you okay, Helen? I'm sorry, is he you in Mayleford? And I would just like put up my thumb and he'd be like, yeah. Oh, wow. But it feels so good. I can't stop like going like this to people.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Okay. And if you can't, if you're not watching this, she's bearing her teeth and then sort of sticking her tongue between them. It's truly. It feels so fresh. So fresh.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I just wanted you to notice that. Through the fog. Step for the trust. They'll have You're going to give them your problems And they will solve them Or maybe they won't And that's your problem
Starting point is 00:02:08 They'll have guests And Andrew White on the tech Oh It's Helen and Catherine And the trusty hogs Trust the trusty hogs Or maybe not They do look really clean
Starting point is 00:02:25 Thank you I mean you've had your hair done So I feel like that's a more dramatic change. I love it. I don't love it. Okay, for those of you who don't know, I... Okay, so first of all, I would say that I'm probably overly tied to my hair.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I think of it. I'm a bit of like a Joe Marsh. I think of it as my only one beauty. And I... Great reference to little women. But I also, it was like stressing me out because it was taking so long to do and it was so long. It was so beautiful, though.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I loved it. And now I'm like that kid who's like, I don't want this toy. And I threw it away. And now I keep looking at it. everybody else's toy and I'm like I want it. So I cut it all off and I'm trying to embrace my curls
Starting point is 00:03:03 which is a big enough change so that it's short and very curly. It's beautiful. Thank you. But the other thing I made, I did not go in intending to get a fringe and I don't know if curly girls should have fringes. I think they should. I think back in the day we wouldn't allow curly girls to have fringes but now I think it's a celebrated thing. I don't know. I just don't, you know what it is
Starting point is 00:03:20 I think it's a cool haircut. I just don't see myself when I look in the mirror and it's and also I did it in this sort of empowered, like, let's cut the last two years out of my hair. But you didn't do it in a bad place. Like, the amount of people that get haircuts in a bad place. Like, you were ready for it. Did I tell you that I banned myself after, after when I...
Starting point is 00:03:37 The breakup? Yeah. I put myself on a 12-month hair ban because I have done the dramatic haircut post-breakup before, and it led to me getting my hair cut up, my friend Karen, in her kitchen. And that didn't go well. And it was like, oh, it's really bad. But this is the wiseness that comes with being in your 30s, is you know that now. But I think I both don't love the hair.
Starting point is 00:03:57 and then so many people the week after I got it done checked in like to see if I was okay and I was like... They don't know you well enough to know that this was a thought out choice like you didn't go in with a picture of nickels from Orange as the New Black being as close to that as possible please but that's where you've ended up
Starting point is 00:04:13 and it's gorgeous and it's gorgeous that's so insulting no it's not are you kidding she's like one of the hottest ones in the prison but she's also had her hair done in prison for several years It works for her I think it looks amazing I hate that you're not feeling it so much
Starting point is 00:04:32 at the moment The thing is I'm not feeling it But it's actually okay Because there are benefits I run a lot And my hair being short It makes that easier And also I would say
Starting point is 00:04:41 Hair grows Like my hair grows really fast So it's fine The fringe will be gone In three weeks See I think you're gonna miss the fringe When it's gone Oh I've taken shit loads of photos
Starting point is 00:04:51 Because I do think the same thing I think I'll be like Oh maybe I did love it And now I look back and be like, yeah, that was cool, but I don't want it again. And that's cool. Do you want to go back to how it was before? Maybe not as long, but I want to go somewhere in the middle. I think it's that old thing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:05 But yes, I want my hair exactly back to my one. All you see is mermaids with their long hair. And when you've got long mermaid hair, all you see is the most amazing bobs. And it's like, you just can't win. That's so true. I think that's what it was. It was like, when I had my hair long, I was like, oh my God, if I could just have like a Vogue Williams lob or if I could just have like Halliberry. If I could rock a pixie, that would be amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:25 You could not. Yeah, no. Just like a flat no. I know that. But that's okay. I will get back to my luscious long hair soon. And it was dead as all hell to be there. Like, it was so dead.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah, because people don't know that you're a natural blonde and you die it. She is. Has anyone ever been less of a blonde than me? I'm like, oh my God, can you imagine I be the most morose blonde you ever fucking met? Like, hey. There are some miserable blondes out there. We just don't allow them out. We just don't let them out.
Starting point is 00:05:57 They stay home. They're just in prison getting their hair and dives to robbery blonde. That's true. That's so true. Well, that's where I'm at. I love it. I think it's super ruffleable. It's like, you know when you see, okay, I don't think you're going to like this,
Starting point is 00:06:11 but you know when you see a dog with fat rolls. Like a really, like, chubby, a chubby bulldog. And like, you want to pet it, but you want to go like, Like, you know, when you see, like, a really big tummy and you want to, like, jiggle it around? It's so true because you could have, I mean, you didn't have to go dog. But if you were going to go dog, you could have gone fluffy, curly dog, instead you went fat dog. But it's got this, I have the same urge with this curly hair that I do for a tubby dog is to, like, grab it and go, la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la. This hasn't helped.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Thank you. Okay. Now then. Oh, God, I really tried then as well. Wow. You need to try hard. What I will say is Fuck it
Starting point is 00:06:56 It's fine You have actively made me feel worse But in a way It's nice to hit Rockbott This early in the day What I would say is That this was one of my Like New Year, New Me things
Starting point is 00:07:10 Tell me How are your resolutions going And then I'll tell you how mine are going I've got clean teeth Was that one of your resolutions Clean Teas I just wanted to take care of myself But not in a self-reasing
Starting point is 00:07:22 care way because I think I'm officially done with self-care. It's got to be the most selfish thing that anyone can ever do. You know what? I think that taking care of yourself is so different to self-care. And they shouldn't be. They should mean the same thing but you're so right. Like this one is for like your health and well-being and mind
Starting point is 00:07:37 and that's all great. And then the other seems to have become this like co-opted Instagram absurdity where it's like, don't want to talk to your mom. Fuck that bitch. It's self-care. It's the constant like if your friend's got a problem you don't have room for it, just chuck them out. which is fine in some circumstances but it does mean we're just all closing
Starting point is 00:07:55 ourselves off and a community is important just in every sense of the word so I am I'm just doing a lot of like so I'm like booted and hygienous appointment I'm getting my hair done in a couple of days I'm getting a waxing you had your hair done before Christmas so what are you having done this? Just a freshen up
Starting point is 00:08:11 because it does make me feel really good gorgeous this is the thing makes me feel lighter and good and as far as like actual resolutions go there's only like a couple of little things. Like we're using soap instead of the plastic bottle soap and shit like that. That's great.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But that was something that we could have started at any time. No, no, no, but I love that. Tell me more about that. So my resolutions this year are super chill because my resolutions next year are going to be tough. Oh really? What are your ones next year? Yeah, I'm going to be a bodybuilder.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Oh my gosh, really? And so you're just amping up a year ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you... This is a chill year because next year is going to be really full on for me. Well, listen, it sounds like what is it about 2023 that says weightlifting champion to you? I was watching Queer Eye.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Sure. The new season, episode two. Oh, I know. Angel. Yes. Powerlifting. I just loved it. I thought it looked amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It is amazing. And so much fun. I lift and I don't lift like as much as Angel can, but lifting during lockdown made me feel. You know, Rachel Fairburn said to me and it was such a good way of describing it. She's just like, when I lift weights, I just feel like less. I just don't feel like a loser. I feel like a winner. I know that sounds weird, but like it just makes you feel like.
Starting point is 00:09:21 you can't be a loser if you lift weights. And it's like, that's what it is. It just makes you feel really strong and empowered. And also, you don't have to be like cardio fit or any specific size or any of that jazz. Well, I know what I want to get from it. Like, strengthen your arms just aids so much. Because, like, you know when you get injured when you're drunk
Starting point is 00:09:38 because you're always trying to do gymnastics? I do not. Like, I want to be able to see any bollard in the street and be able to put my hands on it and vault my legs over it. Whereas, like, I'd say last year in the beginning of this year, I've had a lot of misses. A lot of vaginal injuries. A lot of vaginal injuries, a lot of going down towards the face.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Like the amount pound is brutal. It is. A man pound on a bollard is. A bruised vagina is not nice, Andrew. It's really not. Andrew, it's awful. Because you can't really get attention for it because you can't show it to everyone. And also, it's kind of a bruised colour anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:08 You do show it to everyone. Yeah, but it looks bruised naturally. Viginas looked bruised. I know. No, that's not true. I don't know much about vaginas, but I know that. I'm also going to be looking more into my vaginal infections this year instead of just being like put pseudocrine.
Starting point is 00:10:21 on it. It's good. Don't. Don't say that. Sudu cream goes on everything and it's absolutely fine. So they don't even try it. It does. I would say that it cures nappy rash and not STIs, though. How do I not have nappy rash? You know what I mean? We've all played around with nappy rash as an adult, right? Yeah, I mean, poster badwax, sure.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah, keeping my tape dry. That's a big one for this year. Oh, my God. Oh, also, also, I am going to do a deep dive investigation in to why does their stuff collect my belly button that smells like ass. Like, I'd say, I always forget about it. And then once every six months, I'm like, what the fuck has happened?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Do you clean it? I do. It's a goddamn mystery. Everything from like tits down to like upper thigh is so mystifying to me. It's a vagina. The whole, full length. It's a full length badge from tit.
Starting point is 00:11:15 It's a full length vagina. It starts here and my vagina ends just above my knee. I love the idea that you're starting. Is it your belly button? Why doesn't smell of ass? So top tip for cleaning your belly button, Q tip and a bit of lavender oil with water. If you're not already,
Starting point is 00:11:31 we should be washing it out each time in this shower. I'm sorry if you just had this chat with one of my friends. Like we were talking about women who genuinely believe that lavender oil will do everything. I don't think it'll do everything, but I do think it'll make your belly button smell nice. Before you've also been like you've got spots. Okay, bit of lavender oil, a bit of hot water, pop on your face.
Starting point is 00:11:49 But lavender oil's amazing. Oh, Catherine, I had trouble sleeping. Okay, so a bit of lavender oil on your pillow. Oh, Catherine, I'm having trouble having a relationship with my mom. Okay, a bit of lavender oil and a deep conversation. I don't think it'll help your relationship with your mom. But I do think it's great for cleaning piercings, cleaning belly buttons, and getting you to go to sleep. Sorry, sue me.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Why? No one's suing you? Why are you so defensive about this? I just think you do fit in with that grade of women who everything is oil-based. And I think it's fine. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I don't have another oil preference. It's just, like, it smells nice.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Armand oil for my strain eating. No, that's just for cuticles. I can't with you. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. Oh, I also bought a hand lotion this week. Have you never had a hand lotion? So I do, but I just, I always forget.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So now I've got one in my bag. Do you want to see it? You know what's interesting is I have never had to buy a hand lotion because I am sadly one of those women who people just give hand lotion to. I can see that for you. Like, all I ever get are soaps and the hand lotion. the lotion and I'm like it's great because I never have to buy them but on the other hand you're like could somebody maybe like maybe think I have any other interests like I'm in
Starting point is 00:12:58 my hands are very soft but I it's just really awkward because I haven't given her her Christmas gift yet because of constant forgetting and getting COVID and now our guest is going to be arriving with the gift because I left her home and I'm nervous because I genuinely do not remember what I got you and I am scared we both lotion now yeah that's lotion baby this is a A great podcasting. I'm sorry. £1.69 from Super Drug. It is the nivia, smooth hands and nail care, natural macadamia, oil and lontas flour.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I love it. 24-hour care, fast absorption. Come on, give it to me. Thank you. That's enough. Thank you. You read that in the exact opposite way. Andrew, do you want that?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yes, please. Oh, good catch. Thank you. Is this great podcasting? Are you loving it? Are you loving it? You got right in the mic for some ASMR. Oh, hang on.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Oh, can you hear that? Oh, shit. Do you hear that? I'm going to say, you read the ingredients. This is Helen on a bollard. Every kind of a cosmetics advert, they're like, rich, macadamia nut. You're like, macadamia nut. I feel like I'm the bad audition.
Starting point is 00:14:11 You know, in America's next top water when they have to do their cover girl audition after like five. We know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's any five of them left and they've got a cover girl. And is no one going to comment on that catch? Is no one going to come in my god. I was like, I don't want to point out that I'm harrigan. I wanted one of you to be like,
Starting point is 00:14:27 amazing catch now, but like I played netball. But you didn't see, but Helen, like Helen got thrown the hand lotion from Andrew and she caught up single handedly right hand and kept speaking. Like what? I'm sorry, is she an athlete? Yes, she is. Is she a power lifter?
Starting point is 00:14:39 Probably soon. The year is 2023. Yeah. You know, I've decided my new year's resolution is just believe in your dreams. Oh my God. That's disgusting. It's so exhausting not to.
Starting point is 00:14:49 No, your dreams specifically. your dreams because fighting you is too much energy lost for me, so I'm just paying that energy for myself. This year I'm going to have a clean belly button, clean teeth and soft hands. Ooh, girl, I love that for you. But I don't know how long I'll keep it up. Like check in with me in like four episodes time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Can I, uh, you're going to hate my New Year's resolutions. I'm sorry. I just feel like we're just late off the mark with these, so I'm already going to hate them. But I'm doing them. What I can't believe is, have you ever said New Year's resolutions where you actually cannot believe you stuck to them?
Starting point is 00:15:19 No. Oh. So I'm, I've done no, and I'm doing two of them for all, the full year. I'll tell you those first two first. So for the whole year, I'm doing no takeaway and no booze. And the reason is I keep finding myself with no money. And I just think those are like the things I spent. Wait, no takeaway your booze the whole year.
Starting point is 00:15:40 The whole year. So the booze one is because I'm anxious and I don't think it's helping. Fair enough. But the, and also, oh my God, it turns out people hate when you say that you're not drinking anymore. the amount of people who basically responded by being like, oh, but like, what about that event that I invited you to? Oh, yeah, people think that you can't be fun because of alcohol. They literally like, what, you're going to show up to that with your own personality?
Starting point is 00:15:59 And you're like, yes, I was thinking that might be okay. I said no alcohol, not no drugs. Yeah, but also like, what? Like, people are really annoyed I'm just coming as I am to their parties. Screw them. And the other, the no takeaway one is because I was like, why am I, why do I have no money? Why do I have no money?
Starting point is 00:16:17 I'm curious, with the no takeaway thing, you're not ordering and takeaway if you're at a friend's house and they're ordering and take away and they're paying. Fine. Okay, right. Fine. I'm not going to tell somebody else how to host or cater for me.
Starting point is 00:16:29 No, absolutely fine. And also, like, I'm not going to be, I'm not like not going to chain restaurants or anything like that. No, I think this is good for you because the amount of times I've come around yours and it's just like Domino's feast boxes just emptied and you're like,
Starting point is 00:16:41 I had company, I had company. I'm panicking. It's disgusting. It is disgusting. You know what it is, though? I am trying to do another thing is I am allergic to gluten but I keep eating gluten and the only time I eat gluten is when I drunkenly order takeaways where I order takeaways because I'm too too tired so I also think that'll help with that. The other thing I'm doing this month for January that I cannot believe I have stuck to
Starting point is 00:17:03 no crisps no no chocolate no and no weighing myself. The Catholic need to punish will never not impress me. It's incredible. No, it is. It's like, if you were Protestant, no crisps and you'd be done with it. But instead, it's no crisps, no chocolate. Love the no weighing myself thing. Brilliant. But then on top of it, no booze, no takeaway.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Like, it's because you can't, like, you'd have started. I can see you now, writing them out and being like, it's not enough. I deserve less. And it's so sad. No, but the reason. I support you fully. But you know that they're making long. longer less than the rest of us.
Starting point is 00:17:52 But the reason I had to have them all in tandem was I didn't want to do the no chocolate, no crisp or whatever as a way of like losing weight. So I therefore had to take out the weighing thing and I really need to stop the weighing thing anyway. Okay. So that's gone. But I also, the reason I did those things
Starting point is 00:18:06 is just because they're things I have without making any decisions over. Like I'll be one family bag of crisps in and not have decided to every crisps. And so I just thought like, I want to get back to bed. I can choose to have chocolate or choose to have crisps. This is a really fucking boring. And by the way, like, limiting your food is not good for everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Also, I just basically, you're right. I just wanted to punish myself because I had, frankly, a nice Christmas. Also, I just served a consequence. You know, when people use weighing themselves as the only measure to their size, like, you also get it from clothes. So, like, if you are worried that you stop weighing yourself and you will lose a grip as to, like, your perception of yourself, which I totally understand.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Like, wearing yourself, your brain goes funny, but then also there's a big stress in your head of like, oh, I'm not wearing myself. Happens if I lose, like, clothes will tell you, or be at my size where I sat down on the tube the other day and the seat was tight, in which case you're like, right, do I either take on TFL to get the seats bigger?
Starting point is 00:19:01 Some people would go that rude. Or I know, and I totally respect them for doing it because someone needs to do it. Or do I start walking up escalators every now and now? Because either, or in three weeks' time, I'm going to get stuck on the Piccadilly line explaining to five firemen why my thigh is played and how I'm stuck, which I don't want for me, right?
Starting point is 00:19:26 But you know what? Like, I feel like, you don't need scales for that. No, you're right. No, like, oh, I've gained a bit. Or how much have you gained? Oh, I got stuck on the Met line, but I'm fine on circle. Fair enough. Thank God for the circle line, everybody.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I love you think that somebody's going to stop and get firefighters in. You're just going to be going around. Yeah, no one will give a shit. That's so true. Don't you think when like in the evening it will close and they'll get like a group of people in to like help me out? No, you know how your sister has basically starved her hamster by just... Two days, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:56 By letting it get stuck in a doorway and leaving it. I think it would be the same as that everyone. It'll be like, give her two days without food on the Metropolitan line. She'll be fine. I'm sorry. She'll wet yourself out. I will represent pancake better than that. Pancake game significantly over Christmas.
Starting point is 00:20:11 God bless us. We all do. It's the holidays. We all do. Pancake received some of Pancake's family, my family, did not buy her the size that she requires. I bought her extra large guinea pig tubes and she loves them. She's absolutely fine.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Are they to eat or go through? Go through. Someone, to go through, but she will eat them as well. Someone, I believe my mother, bought her a lovely little hamster house, made a grass. And we had to flip it on its side because pancake can't fit in through the doorway. So pancake is currently eating around the doorway to get it bigger. in a really strong body positivity like adapting the space to work for you move
Starting point is 00:20:47 to try and fit in it. Godspeed, pancake. So she's on a two-day diet but she's in her house so it's not really a diet. Can I tell you that part of the reason I actually stopped eating chocolate for January because when I was home for Christmas
Starting point is 00:20:59 my mom has diabetes and I have this really I got this like itchy foot one night and I told my my brothers I told somebody, maybe my sister that I oh my foot keeps itching it's so annoying and she was like
Starting point is 00:21:16 oh that can be a symptom of diabetes and I was like I got them beities so then I was like so okay that's extreme but I love it I love the job I just want to be clear that like I am a hypochondriac I do think I got the menopause from watching Devinna McCall's documentary on the menopause so yeah I think like
Starting point is 00:21:35 I don't think you're really appreciating the full gravity of the situation no I appreciate the full gravity of the situation for yeah so like you telling me that you didn't get your teeth checked for three weeks three years is enough for three weeks do you imagine and then when I left he was like okay Helen remember six months and I was like I'll see you in three years like there's no way we're doing it like you telling me that has made me be like I'm going to go get my teeth cleaned even though I guess I've checked every six months so I'm a bit of a hypochondria but the thing
Starting point is 00:22:05 yeah if I had problems with my teeth maybe I'd go more but like this is thing will flash forward to me age 50 with no teeth and this clip just playing in my mind and you being like I still got another two years before my three year check it's fine it's so cool
Starting point is 00:22:22 I'll just wear those teeth from like those Harry Bow mix packets like just stuck in like oh blah just suit please divine but yeah
Starting point is 00:22:33 back to queer eye please I obviously watched it all have we all watched it all I've only watched two episodes the new season. Guys, it's been I afraid. I know, I know. It's been like a month. It's bad. What's going on? I'm ready behind. It's Audrey watching Orange is a New Black. And me and Sunil are watching a lot of Jason Stathen films. Oh my God, that's not a good enough excuse.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I know, I know. Okay, so I feel like, does anybody watch Blown Away? Oh my God, is that the glass blowing thing? I've never seen it. Okay, well, here's what I learned is that because Bobby Burke did the, he co-hosted the Christmas special of Blown Away, Blown Away, blown away you should watch by the way but he turns out very annoying and actually brings quite like a grating dad energy to the hosting and then it made me realize that reason I liked him on Queer Eye
Starting point is 00:23:20 and I discover this in rewatching Queer Eye the latest series is that he doesn't say much but he just does the interiors which is much better also oh my god sidebar he definitely has a smaller budget this year or else they blew it all on the barn spoiler but like I feel like he's like oh we just leave this room if you're so attached
Starting point is 00:23:36 to it I was like Bobby has got a put budget if he's just like I guess this is fine if you like it and I was like excuse me what Bobby oh my god I really have not seen that yeah I mean I've only watched two episodes and they've done like living room kitchen bathroom bathroom bedroom says to him like oh we love this room because it's like elephant themed and elephants are smart and he's like fine if you love it and I was like excuse me somebody's trying to save some money anyway I was glad Bobby didn't talk that much on this series sorry I know it's crazy I do think he's the most talented but also ultimately the most annoying oh my god they are all
Starting point is 00:24:03 flawlessly talented yes agreed um Jonathan is amazing this series I mean they always are but I just feel like even more flawless this year. They just give more love. Yeah, they're so full of love. Like even more, so the connection in the chair when they're getting their hair done. Like that first episode with Terry, the respect and the,
Starting point is 00:24:23 this is the thing. I think because we grew up watching makeover TV shows that didn't come from a place of respect, it came from a place of entertainment and laughing at. And hate, actual hate. Trini and Susanna hated those women. And that wasn't the bad one, though. Do you think that was the bad one?
Starting point is 00:24:37 It was 10 years younger. Oh, 10 years younger. was horrific. Do you remember that Sandra were you too little? I got the tail end of how to look good naked with Gok Juan. That was so bad. That was so bad. It was incredible.
Starting point is 00:24:50 The one where they're like standing this line. Oh, you think you're as bad as those women? No, they're way worse than you. What? They're all here. That's the one where they'd have to go in a room with the mirrors on all sides. That's Trinian Susanna as well. That's Trinney and Susanna as well.
Starting point is 00:25:02 That's Trinney and Susanna as well. Oh, it's awful. Awful. So, so bad. And also like, Trinian Susanna. the shaming had nothing compared to, so the 10 years younger one, the premise of it was that they would take someone
Starting point is 00:25:17 with no confidence who had been like volunteered by a friend or family member. A local bully. Some asshole who wanted a moment on TV. A local bully, sure. And they would go like, oh, you've got no confidence and you look really gross and old.
Starting point is 00:25:30 But let's find out what the public think. And they would do it face to face. And they'd take these people out across the Hungerford Bridge in central London and they would make them stand there and then they'd go up to like two random dudes and be like, how old do you think that is? How old is it? And they'd be like, I don't know, 100.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And they'd be like, no, I'm 40. And then they'd cry and then Nikki would be like, I told you. Yeah. It was just. It was horrific. Horrific. And then Gokwan, all he did is put a chunky waist bout and everyone was like,
Starting point is 00:26:07 so you forgot about that miscarriage now. That was it. They'd come on and be like, I miscarried, my partner left me, I've got nothing to live for, and he'd be like, and your fashion's awful, but don't worry. And where is that waste? Honestly. You're what I'd call a box. Your buddy type is boxing.
Starting point is 00:26:29 It was so bad. Do you remember the swan? Wait, this is the American one with the plastic surgery. Yeah. Okay, remind everyone else. Okay, the reason I noticed because it was hosted by a woman. called Amanda who's Irish and she went to my school
Starting point is 00:26:43 and so everyone watched it in my school because it was like oh my god she went out of school so we're basically on it anyway it's like no it is right so they take this again a local bully volunteers usually their mother who has sacrificed everything for this person and then
Starting point is 00:26:59 they take her into a nutritionist a PT and a plastic surgeon and they put them in like isolation for months, obviously, because they need to give them like recovery time. Yeah, major exaggerating. They pretty much gave them all veneers. They
Starting point is 00:27:17 gave them, they made them all lose so much weight. And then they gave them like facelifts, tummy tucks, boob jobs, liposuction. It was crazy. And like also gave them like hair extensions, wigs, fake lashes, everything. And then obviously the premise
Starting point is 00:27:35 is they were ugly ducklings. These are like 60 year old women. So, like, I, they just broke down their confidence, made them so badly that they were, like, willing to have surgeries they hadn't previously considered. Then put them into traumatic surgery. Yeah. And then at the end, just, like, and some of them still, like, it was like, I've just had my bandages off. So I have to come down the stairs slowly. They'd have them this reveal on this, like, circular, this big, a winding staircase.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, like the biggest loser style. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they would always, always, always, without fail, be wearing, like, a bejou. old ball gown. And these women would just walk down and like clearly
Starting point is 00:28:12 hadn't got used to their new teeth yet so they'd be like it's amazing I'm sorry thank you for this wonderful gift and you're like
Starting point is 00:28:21 oh my God and their daughter would be like venomously jealous just like crying because they looked so beautiful but really because
Starting point is 00:28:30 they were thinner than men it was crazy and they're always the saddest part was there would always be this child, this grandkids. It was like, who is there?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Granny? You're like, oh my God, this is horrific. And also the like sad first or second husband, whoever was there would be like, yep, I liked her before. I think makeover TV shows what we're saying now. We're like, you're amazing, you're incredible. Let's work on a tiny little thing that you don't feel confident in and find the confidence in it because you are great.
Starting point is 00:29:08 let's celebrate this, whereas back in the day, it was like, you were the most disgusting piece of shit I've ever seen in my life. Let's change everything. And maybe, maybe people won't recoil when they see you in the street. That was the whole thing. No, that's literally it.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Whereas it's true. At least queer I go. Stock marry a void. I'm not even going to give that one a show out. Oh my God, I don't know that premise. What is that? Tell me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I can't believe this is what I don't know. I'm like, excuse me. BBC 3. Yeah. Nauties. Sure. Ellie Taylor. Loving all parts of it so far.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah, I'm in. Pod. An electronic. robot square in a studio they take someone who has what they would describe as an extreme sense of fashion so usually it's someone who has loads of piercings or tattoos or like body mods or like they used to like love getting in girls who like were like really tiny skimpy clothes and they'd be like you look like a tramp so they'd get them in okay and then pod would do them let's run the make under but before they did that they'd get people's opinions would they snog marry or avoid them
Starting point is 00:30:08 they'd be like 100% of people want to avoid you and apart from one man who wants to snog you and that's it and then they would remove all their makeup make them look really bland and boring with no personality like sort of like dressed like me like just like a jumper and earrings and then they'd be like they'd cry because they hated it yeah and then they'd be like but now everyone wants to marry you so isn't it all worth it and then that was the end of the show are you joking it's amazing wow you need to check it out all the clips are online wow that's horrific. I feel like you're more upset than that than the plastic surgery. It's all bad. But it was just like, you're a piece of shit and your only value is other people's
Starting point is 00:30:44 willingness to fuck you. So let's fix that. Because right now, everybody who doesn't want, like, no one, yeah, sure, you have a husband and children who love you. Yes, your job's going well. But you're disgusting. But you know how, like, trends and, like, TV and everything goes in circles. Like, everything's secular, right? Like, couldn't you imagine in 20 years time we're going to get the third wave of queer eye and they're going to go, like, all the way back, not even the first season. Like, before that and go this one time and be like, you're fucking smell disgusting You're gross And they'll just start ripping them to shred
Starting point is 00:31:13 No the third wave of queer eye Will be five straight men Going to like a queer man being like Why don't you like butcher it up And it'll be like hell on her So I just realised what time is it Oh is it time for our guest It's four minutes till our guest
Starting point is 00:31:25 It's I know but I think he might be outside in the rain So he was there Hi it's Catherine from Justy Huggs I'm going on tour My new show is called This Isn't for You, despite that it is for you, and I would very much like you to attend. Please come. I'm going all over the UK and Ireland, and it starts in February and finishes in June. So good long haul, plenty of dates. And frankly, there's plenty of tickets left. So please come and tell your friends or if you think they'd hate it. Tell your enemies. Either way, I'll see you there. I hope. Right? Come on. Did we start the recording? Yeah, do you want to introduce Sineau? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:32:13 I want to go to the pubiclair chat. Hello and welcome to our guest, Helen's housemates, Sunil Patel! Yay! Hello, thank you. Thank you. Sineal is also an actor and comedian in his own right, but ultimately, and a radio host for a while.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Sacked. Sacked. Sacked. Sacked and a staccressed radio host. But not for the usual reason. Yeah. So he used to run his own pub, and he used to work in business. He's also a crypto lord.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Excuse me? I'm here basically to shill my new cryptocurrency. Yeah. What's the course? It's called Snilbucks. Love it. And we're doing a documentary about cryptocurrency, so we've had to build our own cryptocurrency.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Wait, are you actually? Yeah, yeah. For a radio show? Yeah, yeah. Well, ideally, we're going to build it. We're also going to go to El Salvador and meet the dictator of El Salvador. You keep saying we, but we don't know who you were talking about. Oh, the producer of me.
Starting point is 00:33:04 That's amazing. We haven't got the budget for other people. Do you want to hear what's bullshit about it? They're going to El Salvador by way of Orlando, Florida. He's going to go to Disney without me and then go to me a dictator. I'm going to go to every one of those parks and just be miserable throughout it. I'm so happy for you. So, Neil, how are you?
Starting point is 00:33:23 I'm all right, thank you. Describing. Yeah? Yeah, Helen does speak for me now. When did you move in with Helen? July 2021. Okay. And I have to say the first.
Starting point is 00:33:35 first day I moved in was one of the worst days of my life. Why? I'd had my second jab. Right. And I was aching all over. I was like in, I was in pieces. We had no chairs. We had one chair. We had one chair. Where were the chairs? We didn't own chairs. Her old housemate had moved out, taking
Starting point is 00:33:51 everything with her. I didn't have anything. But did you not own a sofa? No. Mine was still in storage it was coming. Oh my God. I just had Helen shouting at me for the entire like afternoon and evening. I gave him my blow up mattress. I had a blow up with her mouth, not with their foot pump. So it was like, I was just on the ground for a couple of nights.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Oh, God, this sounds like hell. It was awful. And I was like, I've made a big mistake moving over hell about it. She's not a sensitive person. She doesn't really understand people's boundaries, how people are feeling it's all about her. Wow. But I've changed, I've just said, that sounds like a review. We got on iTunes actually.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Oh, my God. I'm very happy to be on The Helen Show. You guys, on the Apple, we have a whole. like a hundred and one reviews and they're all five stars. Thank you so much. If you haven't done one, please give us another.
Starting point is 00:34:39 We'd love to hear it only if it's positive because it turns out if there's one, so much is one and there's only one. It's the only one we'll discuss. Helen will fixate on it in such an extreme way. Helen,
Starting point is 00:34:49 what does the two star review say? What is this the Helen show? Yeah, that's great. And it's like, yeah, it kind of is. Like, it's the three of our show. You're rich. But still two stars. You're rude.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Two stars. I love it so much. I think it's so funny. Also, the review also compliments me highly. It does. Yeah. Oh, Helen's a nightmare, but at least Catherine keeps it on track. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I love it. You have a bad habit of looking up online comments about your words. I do. I do. That's interesting because you live with Helen, so you know more about this. Why do you do that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:26 As soon as your live at the Apollo came out, you went on possibly the worst social media platform there is. You went on Facebook. No. and looked at the Facebook comments from essentially just middle-aged men. Why would you do that? I was sure I had a camel toe. Is there no part of you that's just like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I got live with the Apollo. These people are just tragic. No, I have to know. I have to know. Why? And they all thought I had a camel toe. It was the style of the pants. The worst thing is I kind of get what they were saying.
Starting point is 00:35:57 It was the style of the palms, Ellen. It's called a pleat. But I recovered pretty quick. Oh, you let it affect you? Why are you going quiet that? Wait, yeah, yeah, you bounce. Yeah, I think so, yeah. Yeah, it's like two hours of me being like, what's wrong with my vagina?
Starting point is 00:36:11 I've not been allowed to watch live at the Apollo in the house while she's in the room. I can't, I'm not allowed to watch it. Well, I understand that. I can't have me on television in the house? Well, we've watched Helen once, and she was like, can we just watch me on this thing? This is like a few months ago. Yeah. And then as soon as her face appeared, she had a full-on meltdown and just started screaming and turning the TV off and on again.
Starting point is 00:36:32 So we couldn't watch any. It's like... What was it? I can't even remember. It was some... It was an ITV game show. Celebrability? No, it was Alan Davies as yet untitles.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a full on freak out. I wanted to know what story they'd used so I could like know what had been used and what hadn't. Yeah. And I was just like, I can't, I can't watch it, I can't watch it. And what is it about...
Starting point is 00:36:56 Because I hate watching myself on television. I just look so thick. Like, I'm just always like... No. Oh, you're not. You don't look there. And everyone's talking and saying all these weirdy things. I'm just there like,
Starting point is 00:37:07 oh. But you're so funny. Like your schick is like playing dumb to be silly. And then I'm like freaking out. And then when I live with Emma, she'd freak out with me and then we'd both like panic. And then we'd like run around losing all our feathers or stress. Whereas Sneal just goes, it's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:37:21 No one cares. Nothing matters. No one watches. No. But then I have to freak out by myself and then I have to ramp myself out for the freakout. It's just Uncle Nileism in the corner. I know. I just haven't had many freakouts in the house.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I can't. freak out if she's freaking out. No, that wouldn't. Because then it'd be a spiral. I've got to hold the fault. Like the other night when I freaked out because you jumped out of me. You hid behind a door. I've just realised her weakness is being jumped out on in the dark. I hate it. I've been
Starting point is 00:37:45 hiding behind doors. So fun. That's a bit of fun. It's just been panicking. Would you feel many of those? I'd love to. The best thing is it drains her energy so much that she has to go to bed. Oh, that's amazing. It's great.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Eventually, I just went to bed because I couldn't handle the moving between rooms anymore. I was so frightened. Have you thought of a compilation? Oh, yeah. It's just me screaming and then all the blood go into my feet. So I don't know what to hold on to
Starting point is 00:38:16 and I'm just like really stressed. Then he turned off a light and tried to close the door. But you're, I think you are possibly the most anxious person I know in terms of like you can't, she can't be in any quiet environment. There has to be a TV on. There has to be something. She can't be in any dark or quiet environment. Like sensory deprivation is.
Starting point is 00:38:33 death to her. Real. So, like, if she's working in the living room on her dead, she has to have the TV on. While you work. Yeah. You're right, you're right, then. She can't have silent work.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I hate being seen. Why don't we do a little minute silence now? No, I don't like it. Andrea, can we turn the lights out as well? That'd be great. Let's do this. Are you serious? Here we. This is terrible podcasting, so there's no point in doing it.
Starting point is 00:38:58 But this is, you're amongst friends. Yeah, but I want, now I need to hold on. You don't, no, you don't move. No, you don't need to hold on. I can't actually, because the lights and the same plug as the mic. So we'll just take some silence. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Here we go. Seven seconds, everyone. I think it's actually not uncommon to need, like, outside simulation. Even when I've really got work I really need to do and I definitely can't have the TV on. I have like cafe sounds on on my like laptop. So sorry, what do you do when you're going to sleep? She doesn't sleep.
Starting point is 00:39:43 TV on. Why are you sleep? I have my laptop or podcast playing and then I sort of like slowly just drift off. That's no bad for you sleep. People say that. I do sleep. Why do you not think I sleep? Because I've been up at like 3 a.m. once.
Starting point is 00:39:56 If I'm going to Loo or something, I walk past your room and I can hear like a murder podcast. I can hear the sounds of death coming. from the room. And I'm just relaxing peacefully. The imagine women I know who go to sleep listening to the death of other women is psychopathic.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Like, what's wrong with you? I find it very calming. Do you not listen to them? No. You're Andrew. You're a murder podcast. No, no. It's serial a little bit.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah. Well, it fascinates me is how many women do. Like, it's like, okay, we're not going to sell, I guess we're never going to solve violence on the Patriot. Well, let's just get out of the popcorn. I'm really calm with it. But then if he jumps out of me, then I lose it. So it's like, I've got different.
Starting point is 00:40:33 levels of fear because like because I'm like he's going to kill me. For your balance, are there any good things about living with him? Loads. Oh no, it is actually really fun. It's nice. Yeah. It is a night. Yeah. And specifically what's good? So if she's up earlier than me in the morning, she'll make a coffee. Aw. Which is every morning. She is a very considerate person to live with. Like she is like very clean, very like she tries to make it like a nice home.
Starting point is 00:41:01 That's so lovely. So that's quite nice. Yeah, and he, like, actively tries to not make it a nice home. So he's got Piley, which is what I call his pile of shit. So he just creates a pile of shit in the corner of the living room. So we've just got, like, ten Pileys in the flat. Why? But he just, and then, like, if I get rid of one Piley, then he just creates a new pilee. But why wouldn't it go in your room while you figure that out?
Starting point is 00:41:21 I don't know. Because this room is just Piley. Like, his room is Pile. I've got two plastic bags full of coins. No, it's not the plastic. It's, I found. So in Piley, I was like, okay, let's get rid of T-C. from Piley every single day.
Starting point is 00:41:35 My mum did that with my brother. He was younger. We need to get three things off this table every single week. And then we'll be done with it in the end. But then Piley, I was trying to sort of through it. And I was like, Piley is full of more Pileys. I found an Xbox in there, didn't I? Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I found an Xbox. I was like, I didn't even know where that came from. There was an Xbox, a broken lamp, and then a fair liquid tabs box of pennies. I don't know what to do with pennies. What do you do with pennies? Broach. Go to the bank. and get your money.
Starting point is 00:42:04 No, but you have to like bag it up into individual little bags. Yes. In the supermarkets, you can just pull them into these. They take 13.5% Andrew. Do they?
Starting point is 00:42:12 It doesn't matter, though. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They take 13.5%. They do, it's a lot, isn't it? So just bag it up, man. Oh, how about this? I'll sort your pennies for you
Starting point is 00:42:21 for 10%. Oh, that's a better way. I mean, it was taking you a long time. I don't think it's worth the time. It's worth it. It's worth it. How many pennies do you think of there? I mean...
Starting point is 00:42:32 Andrew, you're making it sound like we don't pay. I think there's about... 10% mate, let's go. I think there's about 15 kilos of coins. Wow. Yeah, it's heavy. Are you clinically diagnosed? No, I don't know what it is actually.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Do other people not collect pennies? I feel uncomfortable now. The only person, I remember telling this when you moved in, who I know who used to have loads of pennies and change, is my cousin who's blind. So he was always, like, when he was living with us when we were younger, he was too afraid to use, like, coins. to get people to help him who would just hand over notes this is before everything was
Starting point is 00:43:07 and then he'd create the pennies and then I would like sort it out and take a profit wow okay so like that's the only person I know who would collect like that and I think that's like part of like the disability and his anxiety what do you do with pennies though I because I you get pennies and change sometimes you know what am I going to do with that charity bars if you don't want to if you know you're not going to take care of them interesting why wouldn't you just sort out your pennies man it's just like one of those tasks where you're like I don't need to do But this is when we'd, like, sorting out piley. So then I'll be like, oh, forget the pennies then.
Starting point is 00:43:37 But then there'll be something else where you're like, well, what do you want to do? What was that one that I eventually put up on the fireplace, which is just like a crown in like plastic molding? I inherited that, yeah. This honestly gives me so much. You would be, because you've already talked on this podcast about me not paying the electricity bill for like six months.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Uh-huh. You freaked out of that. Most people would freak out. I just got them up and sorted it out now. It took five minutes. It's fine. You don't need to pay them. You do need to pay them.
Starting point is 00:44:06 You got a legal notice. That was the tax. Oh my God. They'll get you. They'll get you. They'll get you. But gas and electricity, you can do what you want. No, no, you can't.
Starting point is 00:44:15 If you're listening to this, you can't. You actively have to pay. Nah, it's fine. We're going to go court, baby. They can't actually turn, they can't turn water off. Legally, they can't turn water off. Gas and electricity. But water, I do.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I do water in Disney plus. You still have to pay for it. Yeah, eventually. Yeah. With synonymous. Sorry, so just to be clear, your stance is you don't have to pay bills, but you also don't have to count your money, you just sit in it forever, and then if things get real bad, you create a fake currency in your own mix.
Starting point is 00:44:42 This is bad. There's always a way out, that's what I'm saying. But he's not a hoarder. No, I just don't, I think my sort of personal environment isn't that important. So it's usually quite messy. As long as the bed's made, I'm fine, like, by the rest of it. How do you think in that context or work? I tend not to, I just ignore it.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I don't even notice it. I've got, like, I just think about other stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like his movie there. But I do go in it a lot. But like you're, you're, yeah, you can't get her out of there sometimes. Like, if I'm doing work in there, she'll just scratch at the door and bang on it until I give her some attention. Yeah, I get lonely.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Um, uh, that, would you go, um, okay. I don't like it. So you're messy and you have no boundaries. I have some boundaries. She's had, she's built some up since I've had a word with her. What boundaries have you been working on? Just don't knock on my door. Don't, just text me.
Starting point is 00:45:33 need something yeah right okay and um and do you think how long do you think before you fuck i don't know thank you i'd say three months three months three months three months has it already happened sorry if i've already no it hasn't been like a close moment when you were in covid isolate yeah loads i've been fucking kidding me what if you mention it i sort of do the vomiting motion i like we we've had every round i'd say we have like nice cuddles and I think physically he is warming up to touch. So Emma told me that I have to do cuddle club with her every morning because otherwise she won't stop asking. So Emma's had to do cuddle club with you in the mornings as well.
Starting point is 00:46:15 What is cuddle club? When you get the morning cuddle? Helen needs a hug in the morning. Call it cuddy club. I do find that like weird but I also will say when you live alone and I, like you don't live with a partner, like not having done so made me realize like you do miss touch. Yeah. You don't need much but like a A hug takes on a lot more meaning. But I'll show you how it goes. For anyone watching on YouTube, this is how it happens. So I'll be up.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I'll be doing bits and bobs. I would have usually had a coffee and chucky porridge. So I'm pretty sugared up and caffeinated before he's awake. And then he emerges. I'm like three episodes of The Simpsons down. So like super in for it. And I'll be like, morning, caddy cub. And then he will be, I'll just do it.
Starting point is 00:46:58 I curl up into it. I sort of let's do that. And I'll go like, oh, my boobie. and then he'll just do like, okay, okay, okay. And then he'll freak out and then eventually I'll let loose and I'll feel good and he'll feel like a shall of a man. Yeah, okay. So what's Neil did that is interesting there
Starting point is 00:47:16 is what most animals would... Like an armadillo. Like a defense position. Yeah, yeah. Wow, so I think maybe longer than three months before you guys. I've tried to play dead but that doesn't stop her. No, it's best to go porcupine. If anything, I love that.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah. Oh, my God, look. That's how she sees almost any man in her life is something to squeeze the life out of. Nice. Yeah, it's either to destroy emotionally undermine or to, like, physically squeeze. That's hot.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah. That's so hot. But also. Yeah, but also. You have also really enjoyed being in the environment with all the blankets and the candy. I've warmed to the idea of blankets and scented candy.
Starting point is 00:48:02 He bought his own candles for his room. What? Yeah, yeah, just because I heard they get rid of moths. No, don't. You bought them because you liked the smell. He's trying to make out that he bought them just for moths. Moths. You need to get more for moths.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I know, yeah. I've got rid of them before, but it's fine. Yeah, I haven't quite got around to hot water bottles. I don't really see the points of those. I don't really run that cold. Oh, okay. Well, I guess you're lucky then. Here's my question.
Starting point is 00:48:28 It sounds like everything you now do is because it was like, harder to just not. Yeah. Do you think that's how the sex will happen? I feel, I don't feel like... Like it's just more difficult to just not. It's just like...
Starting point is 00:48:41 Panicking and answer a question, maybe. I'm not panicking. I'm just like, I don't... Maybe you're freaking out. I feel bad that I've got like blankets and sent her candles already because I feel like a broken man. But she's sort of framed it in a way that I haven't broken I've just taken my own decisions on.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So I think it's like... In many ways, she's made you like a better man. Mm-hmm. If you can get rid of Pilee, I can't believe I'm engaging in this. Piley. Which sounds like a queer pile. I feel like you, you know, maybe she's making you a better, more dateable man. No.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I think Pile is very important. Which Pilely are we talking about, living room Piley. Living room Pile is an important extension of my personality. It's my only mark I've made on that living room. Two Mark Tyson prints, one of him getting his ear a bit off, one of him feeding pigeons. Tony Soprano with a horse. I really liked that, but I defended you when Helen brought that before, actually.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Yeah, the Tony Soprano. That's awful. Oh, the Mike Dyson. Yeah, I think it's a good. The duality of man. Exactly, that's the reality of man. Man is pretty damn simple. That's the entire representation.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Fuck me. I also have a shelf displaying as Legos. Oh, she's cute. But she, like, this is the thing. If she wants to tidy or clean up stuff and make it ordered, it's because it helps her anxiety. and like generally
Starting point is 00:50:01 or because aesthetically that would be better aesthetically I'm sorry you've come to the wrong I know I'm like excuse me no because she's objectively correct yeah sorry about it I win I can't believe we're agreeing I know and bond
Starting point is 00:50:16 am I the common enemy thank you shut up nobody asked you no you're gonna fuck this guy this guy no often shout to the woman that does fuck him in that room it's got like literally just like piling
Starting point is 00:50:29 everywhere a fireplace full of shoes and then three prints of nudie ladies on the wall like no one at the moment we've been in COVID she's away a lot so sure she goes to a different school yeah um which naked ladies do you have on your wall uh I just got a print an Egon Sheila print that was uh it's just it's a painting it's not it's not like a naked woman on a motorbike it's not it's not it's not like beautifully drawn nipples it's not it's not it's just like a impressionist painting it's like the best thing about living with Neil, if I can say. Please.
Starting point is 00:51:01 So I do love living with him. It's great. My favourite thing is that he is logged onto the TV on his YouTube so I can see his history of searches and what he's watching. She ruins my album.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And it is literally just dudes talking about doge coin. It's not. It's absolutely not. I don't. And then fucking weirdos discussing cars. Yeah, I like to relax.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I like watching YouTube reviews of mid-priced hatchbacks because it's just so boring. and it's just quite relaxing. But then she ruins my algorithm by watching a 48-minute blog about Disney World. Adam Hatton. It's so bad, though.
Starting point is 00:51:40 It's just so bad. Then his algorithm is now half toddlers and tiara is my £600 life. And which hatchback will accommodate to that. It just makes me feel really good because I remember once I had a couple of comics over a place I used to live
Starting point is 00:51:53 and my YouTube was logged on to TV and they could see my searches and it was nothing to be proud of. Like, it was just embarrassing. Everyone's YouTube searches should be private. No one should be able to see what you're looking at on YouTube. Mine are too much yoga with Adrian. It can't just be yoga.
Starting point is 00:52:08 It's yoga with Adrian. It's interviews with Aubrey Plaza, Placer. Yeah, yeah. And probably, what else? Oh, like, vegan recipes and then interviews with lesbians I find hard. Okay, yeah, that's all right. Yeah, mine's weird. Mine's like a real mismatch.
Starting point is 00:52:28 What? of, like, it's a lot of, like, clips of things. We're on a Gordon Ramsey phase at the moment. Oh, nice. So, like, very early naughtys of Ebo. Yeah. It never ends. We watched the UK episode yesterday.
Starting point is 00:52:38 She doesn't like the UK ones because they make her depressed. They are depressing. They are depressing. They are depressed. They're quite. They do yesterday's episode. They're more, they're closer to home so you can be, like, more invested in them. I guess.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I think that's what hurt me so much is, like, he had to sell his house. He had nothing. And Snail was just watching it, like, blank face, like a psychopath. Whereas in America, when they're losing. using everything, there's a distance there. So I can watch it as entertainment. In the UK, I'm like, he's gone, nothing. Everything's falling to pieces.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Does it remind you too much of Fleet? Oh, my God, don't. Actually, Fleet is thriving because last year, Samuel L. Jackson went to Fleet and ate at El Castello. Excuse me. Why was he there? No one knows.
Starting point is 00:53:19 It's a mystery. What's El Costello? It's just a restaurant on Fleet Road, which is the main road and Fleet. I love a place with only one main road. That's where I'm from. Like, I'm from Klon Silla and there's the Klonzilla Road. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And that is the whole village. A garage. Yeah. A Mormon church. A Protestant church. Right. And then, but we don't really speak about either of those. The Catholic Church is on a better road.
Starting point is 00:53:45 And then, and it has a spa and a chipper and a school. Is it? The end. Oh, and a pub. Are there many Mormons in Ireland? No, but where? They're in salt lake. But they really, like, congregate in one area.
Starting point is 00:54:02 But I don't know. That was in recent edition. Oh, right. And they come in. Yeah, and they come with money. Yeah, yeah. They come in pairs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:09 They do. But they came with, yeah. They came, like they all, they also get moved there from America to like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In their little suit. In their little suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To check us out.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Wow. They're really odd. But yeah. And also, like, I think ultimately, like, the street is hop in now. Like, it wasn't even that evolved when I lived there. But it's, I mean, we're getting, guys, we're getting an Aldi. It's pretty exciting stuff. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Okay, fine. It's a pretty big deal. It's a pretty big deal. My dad keeps saying, it's going to be the, oh, no, we have an Aldi now. That's good. Yeah, we have the Aldi now. It was, there was a lot of buildup when we were getting it. It's there.
Starting point is 00:54:49 But I know that we have it now because my brother keeps being like, oh, my God, dad will not stop saying the same thing. My dad keeps being like, it's the new local shop, guys. It's becoming the new local shop and my brother's like, yes, obviously. What happens to the spa now, though? The spa is fine and also the spa is still more walkable from the school than it is the, so it's like...
Starting point is 00:55:08 And does the spa also cover like posts? Yeah, I was going to say, and then bar on the post office. Whenever there's like a spa such post office in a small town same with fleet. Like it's going to thrive because of the post office. You're so right, but the chipper Ramayos is the best. Really?
Starting point is 00:55:22 The actual best. It's amazing. It's my best career. Sineal was raised on M&S and M&S only. Okay. It's, Neil, they have this amazing curry sauce. Okay, yeah, for sure. I don't know if you've ever had, like, a really good curry sauce, but this one's the best.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Okay, it's the best. It's really authentic. It's Italian Irish curry sauce. Yes, Sunil, I think you'd really enjoy an Irish curry. Yeah. It's so pretty good. Don't be worried if you've never had anything like it. It's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:51 But my authentic curries are M&S. I know. He comes back from his mom's and he's just got loads of MNS ready meals. My mom's never. like hasn't cooked a curry for about 25 years. Did she work for M&S? Because she works for M&S. Wow, you would not think one replaces the other.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, because she just can't be bothered now. Wait, did she work in MNF? Which department. Yeah. Oh, the food department. Nice. Oh, what a treat. And do you cook?
Starting point is 00:56:17 Do I cook? Helen's face says, no. I do. I make a pasta every now and then. He does like, he does a panic meal prep every now and again. And he's got all the stuff to meal prep. He's got his George Foreman Grill. He's got his glass tubs and everything.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And he'll make a pasta. He'll eat it. First one, he'll be like, don't like it. Then he'll force his way through it. I've yet to make a tasty pasta. Yeah. I know it's so easy. It's just like, it's so bland.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And I'm, what have I done here? I've tried to help. I think you do cook a bit, but I think we're both just like very takeaway-ish and very much, like, we had like pot noodles and stuff during COVID. We got given those by Red Richardson. That's disgusting. They were nice, though.
Starting point is 00:56:56 You love the Bombay Bad, didn't you that's right helen yes was it called it's the bombay bad boy it's a classic pot noodle I had it I wasn't that first about the bomb by bad boy I'm more of a super noodles gal always have always will be okay only thing about pot noodle that I miss is when they had pot mash do you remember that amazing time
Starting point is 00:57:14 where they were like diversifying pot noodle and they were like here's pot of mash and it was just like dried potato and you put water and you make pot mash and then my cousin Sophie would have it with ketchup and that was like favorite meal for ages and we'd be like pot mash pot mash honestly that's a step too far they're incredible highly recommend pot mashing it no they're like 100% sold I have
Starting point is 00:57:38 because I was getting too much takeaway before you got here you've posted out some really nice looking meals so I've stopped doing takeaways for the year to save money but oh my gosh I've remembered that cooking is actually quite enjoyable and not that hard it is but it's quite time consuming but that's why I've started doing Hello Fresh because it does... But then you have to be in for the delivery.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yeah, I don't find that that difficult. I find that very hard. I find that very hard. I have neighbours who let it in for me, I suppose. Oh, that's nice. Yes, it was just us. Yeah, but like, can't it just bucket so that it comes on a day that you're likely in? A neighbours are drunk who, like, you know...
Starting point is 00:58:18 I get it on Mondays. The news agent takes it for us anyway. Oh, yeah, they could. Generally, I'm in. Just for me, it means I don't get bored of the same. else over and over again? Are you sponsored by Hello Fresh?
Starting point is 00:58:30 No, we should be. We should be. We should be. I love Hello Fresh. And also when you're like by yourself, if you live by yourself at any point, it's really good as well because when I was doing that,
Starting point is 00:58:41 it made me feel like I had a really attentive wife. She just worked away along. I Hallifresh all the way through lockdown. I had Hello Fresh when I was alone last year. Yeah. Do that guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Things would you do thrive with the ordering in? No, I've only been doing it because it's like the Christmas period and I just, I haven't been to the shop. We've ordered in an unholy amount. To be clear, I should say, I fucking love takeaway. It's just that it was impoverishing me. So they'd order two pizza express pizzas yesterday.
Starting point is 00:59:10 It was two for, it was two for one. Oh, you have two separate orders? No, no. And he said, do you want a slice of it? And I said, no. And then an hour later, I wanted to dare and open up the box and it was empty. It was right. I wanted to play a prank on her, but she didn't have over it.
Starting point is 00:59:22 But, yeah, I. It's the worst thing that's ever happened. to anyone. That's crazy. But when you're ready for it, and then it's not there and he goes, oh,
Starting point is 00:59:32 it's like... Yeah, I don't know how long are you going to keep up this, the My Fitness Pal thing for, but you are already quite a lot of trouble with it.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Why? Because it's the constant complaining about it. Yeah, I think, because like... That's the point of it. You're supposed to do it so everyone knows you're a marty.
Starting point is 00:59:46 This round of my fitness pal is going better than last year because last year I was the first month of it, not doing it throughout the day. The end of the day, I put it all in and then be like, fuck, I had it all in just that garlic and herb dip pot.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Whereas now, number one, the nice thing is I'm nice and round again. So my calorie allowance is the average woman's intake, and I'd still be losing weight if I have it. So I'm not like, I don't have to deny myself of anything because I'm just so far above the average. But also, it doesn't have to be that restrictive if you just want to lose the weight slowly, which is the best way to lose it anyway.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah, she went in pretty fucking hard on the first. So I put in to lose... She goes on like 1,500 calories from the off. One kilogram, a week no that's way too much yeah that's like a degenerative disease yeah yeah yeah maybe girl you're all be ill the way of one of your kidding no i select it because it's the one that's like in between of the options it goes from like nought point two or something all the way up to like two so i was like they shouldn't allow two a week that's crazy that felt too much so i thought if i go
Starting point is 01:00:50 in the middle five pounds a week that's insane helen so i went for the one in the middle no make it like 0.5. So, no, we're at 0.8 now. Right. Still feels a lot. I know. Well, look at me. I'm wasting away.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Well, clearly. Look at my wrist. It's such a tiny wrist. It is a tiny wrist. It's very tiny wrist. She's so dating. Yeah, because naturally, I should be a size four. Oh, behave.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Nobody should be a son. Stop it. It is quite fun, though, because then, like, at home, snail would be like, do you want a yum, yum? And I'll be like, I can't. And it does feel quite powerful. That's nice. Have we been, um, body negative?
Starting point is 01:01:26 on this episode? Yeah, always a little bit. Like, it's not our fault, it's our generation. It's the way we were raised. Yeah, but... Be whatever size you want to be. Yeah. Next.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I think that's the point is if you want to do it, do it. Yeah. No, no. Yeah. No, I mean, we said this in the extras, but it's basically because, like, I got stuck on the tube. Did we say that in the main episode?
Starting point is 01:01:52 No, I felt like I was going to get stuck on the tube. Oh, in the seat? Yeah, the seat's very tight. And I feel like, I got stuck on the tube. And I feel like, I got stuck on the main episode. And I feel like, I feel like, Like, it's something to think about. You're allowed to have a yardstick, and if that's it, that's it.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I get it. I don't want to get stuck on the two. Mine is like, when I, like, I don't have the money to buy an entirely new wardrobe. So I have to stay in my clothes. We also both take about three shuffles to get up from the sofa. No, no, no. This is not true. I've actually been working out, so I'm fine now.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I've heard the noise you make getting up from Sophie. I've done 24 personal training sessions to be able to get up off the sofa. Well done. And then he went to his mums and he ate, I don't know how, many pounds well for the trifles. She gets 33% off trifles, so...
Starting point is 01:02:32 Well, how could you get out? Do you just get the custard and jelly? You had two layers. What was that trifle you brought back that I ate and I couldn't move for like an hour? And then, yeah, Helen did have a big crash, a high in a crash. That sounds amazing.
Starting point is 01:02:47 It's the best trifle I've ever had. That's what I thought, but I lost it. Yeah. My mom made sticky toffee puddings at Christmas with a pecan sticky toffee sauce. Oh, my fucking guys. I'm gonna get you a photo I want to see a photo of this
Starting point is 01:03:00 It was so spectacular And every year she threatens not to make it Like some sort of meany She's like I don't know if I'm She always she's such a like a flirt with it She's like I don't know if I'll make my sticky toffee pudding this year And then we all have to be like
Starting point is 01:03:13 Please no Please My mom bought a you a log from after It's all the same isn't it Yeah This is them cooking Oh my God Stop it
Starting point is 01:03:22 And then served with cream Oh my God That looks like You'd be knocked out by that. That's the sort of thing I'd eat. I actually have to like make sure I just realized there's some nudes down the bottom. If I ate that, I'd then plan a holiday
Starting point is 01:03:36 with like everyone that was around me. I want to see the nudes. No, those are not for you. Andrew, that actually showed up on camera. He's written down nudes. So Crop it, send it to me in all the patrons. Yeah, me and the patrons will receive like a lot. I bet.
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Starting point is 01:04:06 I wasn't into nudes before last year I'd never taken one you've got the wrong audience oh because of lockdown you got to do more needs no it wasn't about lockdown
Starting point is 01:04:16 I just one person I guess what I wanted them and then I but I'd never retaken them and now I'm like they're kind of fun like as in full nudes no not full nudes oh like coy ones like shy i'm shy
Starting point is 01:04:31 she's not doing like gun out she's not like she's not like i never done that before making it like a smiley face like she's not like have you ever you don't take pictures of your tits for people oh i take pictures of my tits for sure but like i would say hell if you get your tits out all the time anyway photography wise at home you've got an album you're collecting of pictures of me crying on the sofa i've got crying on sofa i've got crying on sofa for album. That's more like emotionally naked. Exactly. But we've had pictures with friends where you've just got you
Starting point is 01:05:00 to it out for like attention. But I'm talking more like sexy ones that aren't just like... I'd say it's still pretty sexy. Oh and for sure. But it's just not like it's specifically for a person, one person. Not the room. No, mine is I like a wider audience. But also sometimes I just take pictures of myself because like I don't have a very good relationship with my body and I have a warped idea of my
Starting point is 01:05:19 body and sometimes I think that's the thing about nudes is that like it made me be like Oh, it's not, I don't know, it's not how I imagine it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We would like to do a session with you. Do you want to do a housemate nude photo shoot? Two of us. This really is an episode that bears watching on YouTube for the body language alone.
Starting point is 01:05:38 It is amazing. I've had my arms crossed for the whole episode as well. That's what you do at home. Yeah. You could do that in your Bruce nude. Just get the text looking good. Just cock out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Oh, my God. Please, you like this, in your bouncy chair. at home but just like flopped out yeah the better not right I thought you'd be a nude girl not really I don't think I've ever really taken that many nudes I just take not even when you were that's what I mean though I guess oh when I was 12 sure oh I don't know that's where he was going for them why I believe when you were picking the GCSX no I mean like when you were on hinge and stuff last year I thought when you were dating well no I wouldn't send it to a random no no no but for like people should see it even then even
Starting point is 01:06:23 And then, like, I mean, not, like, a full-on, like, well-lit. Like, I know a lot of our friends are fucking incredible at nudes. Yeah, I would say I'm, like, I'm not incredible. I'm not trying to be, like, I would say is I do tend to do it in, like, dimly lit rooms and a specific angle, but I would also say that I've never sent them to anybody I've not already had sex with. Yeah. I only send them ever to one person. Is it like if someone says send nudes, or you just do it unsolicited?
Starting point is 01:06:46 No, no, no, no. So, first of all. It would only be, it's only ever been with one person who I've already had sex with, and it was reciprocal. Right, right, right. But I would never randomly send them to one person. I think I fill that nude space by sending, like, funny voice notes. Okay. Like, I think that's where I fill that void.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Fine. But I'm also now realizing that no one's asked me for a nude. But no one had ever asked me for one. But this is upsetting now, because you're like, you know how no one's ever asked me for anal? It's like, what's wrong with me? If I were dating you, I would want pictures of your tits. Like, a hundred percent. How uncomfortable is.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Look, how uncomfortable is. No, I'm listening. I'm listening. I think it's a nice thing to say. But don't you think if you're a dating out. I'd be like, oh, every five minutes, I'd be like, can I? He doesn't care about my tent. He leads for them.
Starting point is 01:07:28 I just think it's also like quite a vulnerable position to put yourself in, isn't it? Because that photo just be, go everywhere. I do. Do you want to see Saneal's cock and bull? If I think about it too much, I am like, oh God, I'm going to be vulnerable to revenge porn, probably terrifying. Oh my God. That would be that would be my fear.
Starting point is 01:07:50 That would be my fear. You know, I'd never. I think my generation don't really have that fear. I think we're so kind of over-sexualized and over-corn. Oh, but Andrew, you're probably sending your dick to everyone. Do you just get a call-up in the moment? Like a hello on Grindr, isn't it? I don't say my dick to people.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I have, but not like unsolicited. Not, I'm not like it's a hello. Who believes him? Thank you, Helen. I love you. I back you all the way. I think that I wouldn't send as many nudes if I was a man. I mean, because it's not.
Starting point is 01:08:22 It's not as good. It's not as attractive. Can you do them without showing your face? Yeah. Then that's fine, isn't it? Because that could be anyone's. Just when the only nudes I would have on my phone are nudes that weren't meant for nudes. It's me trying to like look at like an inggrown hair on my vagina. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:37 You know what I mean? Those pictures of like your head and you're like this. Admin news. And it's just like, yeah, admin nudes. Yeah. Most of my news are trying to check my hair on my bed. It's about my asshole. It feels fluffy, but maybe it's not.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And it's like me bent over. Like trying to see down things. Most of my mind are checking the color of my mole on my back. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Or like, why do I have so many pictures of me naked on the loom? I don't know why I do. I just do. I've seen lots of those.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Not of you. I don't send this. I haven't sent this. I haven't sent this. I have an album of them at home. Oh, nice. Congrats. Well, I feel exposed. And like I said something that I shouldn't have and I thought there was going to be more solidarity in.
Starting point is 01:09:15 And I thought we might bond over this, but we haven't. I think you're disgusting. Let's do a listener question. We're here to solve a problem Are you happy to solve a problem? Yeah, yeah, let's do it. All right, Sineal, the man who keeps his pennies is going to help somebody else with their issues.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Over the last five minutes, we've just collectively made all of our anxieties worse over the news issue. And now we're like, well, let's solve somebody else's problem. Yes. I feel very chill about it. I just remembered my brother listens to this. I'm sorry, Peter.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Hi, Peter. I'm sorry. This goes out without any edits, right? Yeah. Okay. Even if you ask for them, we won't do it. Oh, that's cool. I refuse.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I haven't gone. I'm fine. I haven't done anything wrong. You've frankly been like to say. Nothing wrong. Wow. The shame is real. This is a housemate related problem.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yay. From listener F. F. Is that your pseudonym? No, are they always anonymous? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, right, right.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And they say, my health mate, Helen, is being really, really. I failed to believe that a Helen's annoying. Hello, F. Tell us your issue. So F has. It's came out of a long-term relationship a few months ago and has kind of had to bump in through a sexual dry spell, finally got, well, like a hookup in a bar,
Starting point is 01:10:28 wanted to bring them back to the house, sent a cursory text to their housemate. Yeah. To say, now bringing this guy back. And her housemate said no. Excuse me? Why? She said, don't bring the house.
Starting point is 01:10:40 And she was like, oh, okay, and says didn't. And then they've not provided any reason. They just, like, didn't want somebody in the house. Oh. But she knows that she's been having a rough time of it and, like, hasn't had any... Was it COVID? No, they didn't say... Is there only two of them?
Starting point is 01:10:58 Yeah, two people in the house. Are they two women? Two women. And they haven't discussed it after that? No, they said they've left the situation a bit frosty. You know what this makes me think of? Do you remember the other day when you said, I want to move my room around, and I went, why didn't you try your bed there?
Starting point is 01:11:16 And you went, no, because when I'm wanking and whacking off, really vigorously you will be able to hear it obviously I said it I said it for a laugh I was like that reminds me of that okay does it why I don't know I don't know I just really loved it when you went I couldn't do that but I'm like I was doing it for I was on the bouncy chair I was doing the working way but anyway I think there's two things here right I think there's one why whether or not that's a rational position and two I think more importantly whether or not what you're going to do about it right so like from a from the point of view of what to do about it I think F should have a conversation that isn't via text or when
Starting point is 01:11:59 they are about like like have somebody with them that just like is like can we sit down and have a chat about this presume the best of the person and try to understand their perspective but also ultimately like you pay rent you are an adult I think you you should be able to yeah you're not going to be coming in the kitchen you're not going to come in the living room like be like come's going be in my room and only in my room like it won't be sticky it'll be cool yeah that seems simple enough isn't it i think so but if the but i think in order to go into that conversation you have to be like quite firm on your boundaries of like i was being polite i think i may have given you the indication i was asking for permission i won't be doing that and that's not what i was seeking to
Starting point is 01:12:41 do and i have every right to have sex in my home however and it's not like by the way if it's was like a constant like revolving door i think your your person gets to go actually it's really difficult to constantly having strangers here yeah and it's loud or whatever that's fine that's not even a sex thing it's just sort of like oh like we're not always like that banks that i have hosted tea people but you can't be like nobody gets to come over for sex right yeah it can't be like we have to both be alone forever yeah that's not reasonable yeah oh my god let's do that stranger there's no excuse or no like but i'm trying to think about why the house mate white people that way and it's like oh
Starting point is 01:13:20 maybe it's like frame you're dangerous but it also could have just been like a one night thing you know sometimes you're just sort of like oh like not to night please don't bring someone back I don't think I'd ever say that even if I was like I just want over that it has I'd never say no I just stay in my room and be like okay yeah cool but like I'm just gonna go to bed because like sometimes you just not in the mood to like introduce yourself to someone I kind of get that actually when you
Starting point is 01:13:38 I remember you texted me and like you was like oh I'm gonna have this guy over and I was like and you but you were very like it's gonna be loud and I was like I was like right fine, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you really egged it. You were really like, this is going to be a big one.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And I was like, oh, but that, if you just... Was it as late as she hyped? It didn't happen in the end. It didn't happen. It didn't happen in the end. But I was like, yeah, fine. You were like, I'm going to be screaming.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I'm going to be whacking the world. I'm going to be banging the head breath. I'm going to be out of the head. I was so horny one day. And he was like, great, I'll come over tonight of the next night. And then I woke up. that day and I was like, no.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Yeah. But I love the idea that you were like, there isn't going to be a house on the street. There doesn't hear me come. And I've been there for a month and I was like, I haven't heard it before. I'm sure it's fine. But it's like when you said,
Starting point is 01:14:31 oh, it's a big one. You're a shaker. Then I was a bit like, obviously fine. But like, I was like, oh, for God to say. And then nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Nothing. Not even a loud wank. Nothing. So maybe the strategy is to like tell them it's going to be a lot worse than it eventually. is and then they get used to it. I don't think with this house maybe that's going to work
Starting point is 01:14:51 so we're in the situation of like being close friends so like some conversations are just easier. But I am trying to understand like what the perspective is and if it's like okay maybe it's a stranger danger thing
Starting point is 01:15:02 right like we're two women I don't want a man I don't know in my home but it does feel like that's not unreasonable that's always going to be someone you don't know initially yeah it feels like a high bar is it a COVID thing do you think
Starting point is 01:15:12 then because then I assume it's that just because of the time year because they're dating during COVID was very tricky as far as, like, being up to see each other in an inside space. It feels like they should have had that conversation before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, like, well, then, like, how is it more dangerous than them going to the bar?
Starting point is 01:15:27 Yeah. Or if it, if it was just like, I'd actually understand the one night thing more. If it was like, today I'm having a truly horrific day. I can't deal with this. Yeah. But I definitely think you need to have that conversation in person and be clear that you are not asking for permission. And that, like, it's more like a heads up. Yeah, and maybe make parallels.
Starting point is 01:15:47 I was like if they wanted to have their parents around or their friends around, you wouldn't be like... Totally. Or what's it called exposure therapy? Like just throw an orgy in the living room. Deal with the fall out of that. And then next time when you bring just one person back, they'll be like, not bad.
Starting point is 01:16:04 It's not bad. It's the same thing that I did to you. Like, it's going to be like, you're not going to be able to sleep because you're going to be so worried about the sounds you're hearing. And then nothing happened. So you're like prepared for the worst.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Oh, yeah. fine. But also from the point of view of the other person like just do like what do you do when my classmates were having sex
Starting point is 01:16:22 I used to just like put on music put in my headphones sit at the door and listen and try to be apart of it yeah wank along with the show
Starting point is 01:16:30 whatever is for you outside Emma's room just being like you can do it babe she's an angel treat her good you see to my girl first yeah
Starting point is 01:16:38 I'm like going at the breaks with orange segments and like water yeah that was we all doing well are we all doing well yeah we're all good everyone's happy
Starting point is 01:16:46 everyone's happy That would stop it ever happening again. That's a good solution. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But my feeling is like, oh, the only other thing as well, I will say this, my, I don't know what your opinion on it is, but if you're not like best, best friends with your housemates, my view has also always been like, don't comment. Yeah. Like, I really don't think you should make people feel insecure about fucking. I'm like, so true.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Like, I'm like, if you heard something like, you don't need to say, unless they bring it up, you don't need to say. It's like, but actively I would want you to remind me to shower after. Why do you have to be part of this process? Because when she didn't wash her hands after wanking, she got pink eye. Or a stye or whatever. A stai. Is that what it was? That's what it was in the end.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Come in the eye. Was it actually? Yes. Because she didn't say that to anyone. She said it on the podcast. Yeah. Right. Great.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Yeah. So whenever she's making you those coffees, remember, it's with come down. You always tell me to wash my hands. I know. Do you wash your hands before you do cuddle club? I don't know where she's been I mean like when Oh yeah no I would have done
Starting point is 01:17:49 Because I get up toilet A toilet myself First thing in the morning You toilet yourself Did you hear something mad No I I think in the morning
Starting point is 01:17:57 You do little toilet And you do big toilet A bit later on He's done big toilet at 5am before How mad is that I was ill I had food poised Before you're cuffing
Starting point is 01:18:05 Oh yeah To big toilet at 5 He had food poisoning I think of a big toilet Before 10 He had food poisoning And I hate this chat Oh my God
Starting point is 01:18:13 Okay, well, I think What? I don't know. I just think it's really funny. She's laughing at her nerves now. Ultimately, F needs to have a conversation in person and not let it hang because, and also don't ask for permission again.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Yeah, either that or the orgy. Like, you pick your route. I'm not touching it, I stop then. Helen was just playing with the wires and then, I pulled her away from it. Which actually, I can now see how this dynamic works. Helen goes to put her finger in plugs. You've got to stop her hurting herself.
Starting point is 01:18:43 She runs downstairs, she does all sorts of stuff. You hurt yourself on the stairs the other day. You pushed me down. No, I didn't. When you were trying to turn the light off and run away and then you pan up to the stairs too fast that you hurt your ankle. I did my Achilles in running away from Helen doing a prank. Oh, you do look younger than you are.
Starting point is 01:19:06 It really is a quite childlike house. That's amazing. Sineal, before you go, where can people find you? Sunil Patel Solutions on Instagram. Okay. I've got to plug some stuff. Buy Sanil Bucks when it comes out, cryptocurrency. Absolutely do not do that.
Starting point is 01:19:23 It's not a Ponzi. It's not a Ponzi. Will the BBC let us do it? It's not endorsed by this podcast. I totally endorse Sinalbux. Invest everything you have. It's going to the moon, baby. What else?
Starting point is 01:19:38 Watch back chat on the Dave Facebook channel. Yes. Because you can't get it anywhere else. I can't get it off there. It's really funny about that. It's a little fun, fun show. And I'll be in the artist, Hugh Davis's show. Oh, yes, I'm in that too.
Starting point is 01:19:52 You're both in it. Oh, that you turned up in the middle of a shot. That was so funny. I did. I did not understand why you were both there. Watch out for that, yeah. I can't find photos. I'm looking for photos. I was seeing if they've got a shot of you.
Starting point is 01:20:03 That would be amazing. I was dressed up as a magician in the middle of a shot. And Catherine just thought I was doing a weekend hobby. I really did. It was a weekend hobby. Well, because it said, it said, magician and I was with my friends on a comedy break away. I was like, you know, I'll take a break
Starting point is 01:20:17 from comedy, I'll go away, get my head clear. Me and this gorgeous family I know and their children see a magician and they were, Rihanna was like, oh my God, nothing ever happens here. This is so exciting. And then out came the magician and I was like, wow, Soneil is not getting enough gig. This is, I did not know this about him, but I guess
Starting point is 01:20:35 it fits based on everything else he's told me about. You were really supportive from that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, everything else he's told me about a satellite man. But yeah, doge coin, magic. Sure, sure. Had a big pop-up banner saying Professor Mystico on it. That must be, he must be Professor Mystico.
Starting point is 01:20:51 And I've ruined your shot, I'm sorry. No, no, no. But where can people find out about your live gigs? Just on Twitter. You should just resweet them there or on Instagram. Great. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 01:21:02 In the meantime, I'm excited for where this romantic dynamic is going. We'll watch the Rom Campo Senate. He just totted at me. but I just think you're thinking about something which you hadn't even asked me about that it just isn't going to happen so you just need to let go of it now romantically what's going to happen
Starting point is 01:21:25 is I'm hoping that he starts bringing home a slew of bitches and I'm going to make him breakfast in the morning and that's what's going to happen so that would be the... So I get friendship and he gets sex so we're all happy but that would be the first third of the film
Starting point is 01:21:37 right like you're making all these girls breakfast you're giving them advice on Sunil you know what he's really like You know what I mean? Oh my God, that is. Life doesn't have a three-act structure. That's not how it works. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:21:48 What's the second act? So the second act is like us like tentatively being like, like cuddle club becomes a hand job. Right. And then there's a tension. Then there's a fallout. Then he moves out. What? You can't give someone a hand job when they're doing that.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Yes, you can. You mustn't. I've done some before. Please don't. You must have forced a hand job on anything. No. No. Oh, Helen.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Oh, hello. Is that clip going on socials then? No. So many legal caveats. Please do not take financial advice for this podcast. Please not take any sexual advice from this podcast. Please not take any advice from this advice podcast.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Yeah. And then ultimately the conclusion would be Senil having to tot his way through his own vass when he met with you. Beautiful. Stunning, gorgeous. Oh my God, I'm so excited for our future. Yeah, that would be fun. Isn't it beautiful?
Starting point is 01:22:38 Guys, check that out. So on Sunnialli, Neil's Solutions. Sennel Patel's. Their entire romantic arc will play out there, no doubt. Oh my God, I cannot believe we're just in the first act. Isn't it gorgeous? Gorgeous.
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