Trusty Hogs - Ep151. Martial Arts, Mandolin & Medical Tourism

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

As we get stuck into our next 150 episodes, we’re talking satisfying teacher feedback, ear canal irrigation, health tourism and Catherine’s surprising martial arts background…TOUR TICKETS: www.trustyhogs.com/tourThank you so much for listening!Support us at www.patreon.com/TrustyHogs for exclusive bonus content, merch, and more!Trust us with your own problems and questions... [e-mail] give us a follow @TrustyHogs on all socialsBe sure to subscribe and rate us (unless you don’t like these little piggies - 5 Stars only!)All links: https://audioalways.lnk.to/trustyhogsSNThank you to our Patreon supporters...EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Guy Goodman / Simon Moores / Annie Tonner / Stefanie Catracchia / Oliver Jago / Anthony Conway / Neil Redmond / Madeline Quinne / Grace O'Reilly / LilyPRODUCERS: Elle / Richard Bald / Harald van Dijk / Tim & Dom / David Walker / Rachel R / Sadie Cashmore / Claire Owen-Jones / Jess & Nick / Sarah & Molly / Raia Fink / Cordelia / Rachel Page / Helen A / Tina Linsey / Graham Marsh / Amy O'Riordan / Abbie Worf / Matt Sims / Luke Bright / Leah / Kate Spencer / Tristin / Liz Fort / Taz / Anthony / Klo / Becky Fox / Dean Michael / Sophie Chivers / Carey Seuthe / Charley A / KC / Jam Rainbird / Nathan Smith / Amanda McCall / Tamsyne Smith-Harding / Hannah J / Ezra Peregrine / BrynWith Helen Bauer (Daddy Look at Me, Live at the Apollo) & Catherine Bohart (Roast Battle, Mock the Week, 8 Out of 10 Cats)FOLLOW HELEN, CATHERINE & ANDREW...@HelenBaBauer@CatherineBohart@StandUpAndrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Download today. Hello and welcome to episode 151 of Trusty Hoggs. Fresh off the excitement, the thrill, the anxiety, roller coaster that was our quiz. That I won. Not Helen won. It's the trusty hogs. I'm Catherine Bohart. She's Helen Bauer. What is this podcast, Helen? It is a podcast, which hasn't been this way for the last two weeks, but in general, in general, our podcast is about us. What we're up to. I'm a stand-up comedian. Catherine's a stand-up comedian. We do gigs. We chat. Our lives are perfect. We tell you all about them. Then you ride in with your honestly frightening,

upsetting problem You guys are fucked up And we give you some perfect advice It's never wrong Don't worry about it It's certainly not conflicting Don't take the advice

No no It's the main advice Through the fog Step forth The trusty hogs Yeah You're gonna give you problems

And they will solve them Or maybe they won't And that's your problem They'll have guests And Andrew White On the tech Oh, it's Helen and Catherine as the trusty hogs. Trust the trusty hogs or maybe not.

Helen, how's your week been? I've been thriving, but can I just say, obviously I have, because I only did five days at the end of my September bounceback this year compared to the previous years has been incredibla. That's so funny because you've already rang me to moan about how sick you are. I did have a cold. I did. Okay, I had a cold.

for one day. But Sunil thinks I caught it on the bus. He's like you take the bus too much. You do take the bus a lot. I love the bus. Just for a woman who makes the money that you do, you take the bus a lot. I love that.

It's so convenient. Yeah, fair play. And then I can play Pokemon Go the entire journey. I do like that you have phone reception on the bus. It's so different. But anyway, I bounced back. I had a cold. Yeah, I cried on the phone about it with you.

Sure, yeah. Was part of that because you were in bed and Ellen definitely didn't have a top on? Yes. It made the call more fun for me. Did you watch those videos? She told you about the DIY girl? No, I literally forgot as soon as I hung up the phone.

She's going to be gutted. What is wrong with? Well, you've got to remember. Most of the call was you telling me that you and Ellen wanted to invite Sineal Patel in to your bedroom. No, that we both separately fancy him. It's not a group invitation. Her name is, what is her name?

The ones that Helen watches Christ. I was like, oh, what do you guys do? It was a Sunday and I was like, oh, I'm sick. Like, what are you guys doing? Alexander Gator, that's what she watches. She does studio makeovers and bedroom makeovers in Toronto. And I think Helen, Helen, I think Ellen probably fancies her because she watches all those videos, but she also just loves DIY.

It was like calling in to check on how your gay best friends are doing and the two of them are in bed watching videos of another woman doing DIY. And it's like, you guys going out of the sunshine today? No! She's got drills, she puts her bookshelves. It was really cool. No, she actually has a man who does all the DIY stuff. Shut up.

She can do some of it, but she mainly just bosses men around. It's pretty exciting. That's kind of hot. Yeah, and she makes these cute little slippers. Wait, she makes slippers? That's a separate side hustle. And it's all in these videos. Yeah.

YouTube is such a wonderful place. Isn't it a weird world? But honestly, her stuff's great. It's really good. You really see what you can do with a tiny space, which is always heartening when you live in London. London. London.

Oh, yeah, by the way, not to docks ourselves, but we live in London. Don't find us. Don't follow us. Do not find us on the street. Don't come to our houses. One of us is north of the river. One of us is south of the river. You'll never know where.

I'm south, Catherine's north. It's so obvious from the way we talk. Catherine. Catherine, Catherine, please, please. Please. Shut your mouth for 10 seconds. I'm just, sorry, can we just please? Can we please?

Can we please just shut Catherine's mouth? Can we please shut Catherine's mouth? But you know what? I'm going to say 20 seconds while I say, you thrive this fringe. And obviously we talked about the buildup to it for so long. You have to let people know how it went. It went fine.

Oh, come on. It went fine. Oh, my. Are you fucking joking right now? Look, I, the thing is, first of all, I did 15 days. I did 22 shows. I did my own show 18 times. I did two podcast shows of the trusty hugs.

And I did two of my radio show whilst writing my radio show at the same time. So it was, for me, honestly, the busiest, hardest work fringe I've done. I think I would have had two nights. for my birthday and once the last evening and both times I was home well before two and both times I sat down for the entirety of my time out but I um also it flew by it honestly was like both the longest and the shortest time of my life and I liked my show and it made such a difference and I'll tell you what doing the Melbourne Comedy Festival playing that show every single day to silence was like training

in altitude because when I got to the monkey barrel and people looked at me and smiled laughed, out their mouths my God, it was honestly like this is the most incredible feeling that's ever happened so that was nice yes and it went well and I got some nice

reviews and I got the thing is though I knew you couldn't do it you can't enjoy it you can't think they're stupid I know you do I think they're stupid I know you think the awards are stupid. I do. I think they, I don't think you can compare comedy or art or. Okay, and this is exactly why art and comedy got taken out of the Olympics, but it did. It was in it until the night comedy. Not comedy, but it's still an art form andro. I think it's tricksy. I think like there are

so many shows there that could be nominated. But they weren't because they were shitter than yours. Why can't we just enjoy things? But the thing is like the day I got an nominated. I watched Pierre Novelli's show. No, the day you got nominated, proof that everyone else's show was shit compared to the people that got nominated. And that's all that matters. Imagine if I've ragged on the awards for so long and then I was like, but now that I've been nominated, the system is perfect and nothing needs to change. Um, no, listen, don't get me wrong. Having tried Bose, being nominated, a much more enjoyable experience than not being

nominated. It comes with its own stress, but it is joy. No, it doesn't. Sorry, I would say no, it doesn't. Really? Yeah, I really, I have no time for people being like, Oh, it's so, is Jessville getting up for a photo shoot and being one of the, named one of the best shows? Not the photo shoot, the, oh actually, yeah, maybe it was different for you. Just that sort of, I think the personal dynamics for some people can be quite tricky. I think because I didn't get nominated onto my fourth show, people were actually, and this was the thing that I found very warming about it.

One was, my favorite thing about it was that it was a really nice excuse to thank the people who've helped me. That's true. It's like a really, like, easy, apropos of this, I get to say why I wouldn't be able to do this, that you. the other like really cheering sweet and warm thing was i was surprised by how many people got in touch to be like congratulations this is so nice and that was really nice and i think that probably was easier for me because um i haven't been nominated before so i think people were a bit like oh she's done enough of them that we can be happy for her um you know what i mean i think we've got happy either way i think it just can be a bit tricky on the days when like i didn't see anyone the room is

circling about like certain people being nominated that like people can start like people start acting a bit bizarre you know yeah I didn't see anyone really because I was so busy the person I saw what I found out was Georgie who's a much shorter woman than I who's helped with all of my comedy shows and um lifted me up that was pretty cool so good out how superhuman strong she is um yeah no definitely better than nothing and very lovely and very um affirming, but that's what they wanted to feel! No, it's not, it's a gift to give to everyone who you worked about here as well. It's a gift to say like, you're great at your job, you're great at your job, you get to look

at the people who you worked with and be like, hey, we all did this. But like, but the thing about going to Pierre's show was so nice was because it was so like, oh yeah, there are like a hundred shows of this festival that could be nominated because his show was perfection. And I feel that way with the last three of his shows, I feel like any one of these could be nominated. Yeah. And it's, you know, a real shame that none of them have. And so you're just like, yeah, thank you so much

to the people who were on the panel, but this is obviously like a very subjective taste and it's those people's taste. Yeah, beauty and the beast lost the Oscar to Silence of the Lambs. Like, nothing's perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Were they nominated?

Have you seen the 1991, best picture? Yeah. Have you seen the John Ronson documentary where he follows the critic going up to the Edinburgh Fringe? No. It is amazing. I will find out of you not seen theirs.

It's on YouTube. It is all on YouTube. What's it called? I'm just about to find it. Which critic? For a broadsheet. It's called. Critical condition

and... Is the name of his show. Sorry, I Googled John Ronson, Edinburgh Fringe and the first suggestion was psychopath, question mark. The Financial Times critic Ian Shuttleworth.

So he went up to the fringe and did a show. Who did? Ian Shuttleworth. It's a terrible show. He's clearly very... He thinks a lot of himself and his abilities.

Right. And they should go behind the scenes. You're the critics. They followed Andrew. Jesus Christ. I would hate to have Andrew critique my show. Oh, fucking hell.

That was a very kind of. If you actually watch the documentary, I was a very kind reading. They go behind the scenes of the panel discussing the best shows. And one of Ian's friends, who's another critic, is in the panel. And he's like, well, I thought Ian was bloody good. I thought it was really, you know. And because of that, he gets long-listed. To be clear, I feel so grateful.

And I don't want to be, I guess I just mean like, I think blindly being like, this system is perfect. And nobody else deserves it would just make me feel icky. I agree with that. And I do think every single. single year you're like yeah it's like it is lush being nominated it is a nice oh my god are you kidding it's so nice but obviously but in the same way there's a lot of people where you're like it would also have been lush for them and their show was like arguably better than

nine yeah you can feel that with a lot of things but it's also like but I got lucky this year yeah you know and that it's still lovely and also I think I think I think we spoke about on the phone but you just like it is like there's other people that have been nominated alongside you do you know what I mean yeah and I might exactly and it's your whole team and I think that um the thing to say is that if there's not luck involved putting yourself in a situation where you could be nominated I think we all work really hard to like put ourselves in that position and I think I've put myself in that position um but I think then of who they choose it's maybe a bit of luck um it's it's everything but you do have to watch this documentary Catherine yeah critical

condition can't wait to don't mind if I do and the Listen, it was really lovely. It was a real true. And it was really nice to see Amy win. And it was like genuinely, I put a post up about it, but I mean truly like Miss Congeniality won the main prize. Like everyone was like, yeah! And you get a photo shoot?

I know, I know. It's tough because... What did you wear? I can't remember now. Oh, I wore an Ellen stripy shirt. Yes. Yeah. That's it.

Like corporate business, like sex. I did go very big lesbian business wear. Do you get a tiny trophy as well, a little nominee? You get, that's what I was going to say is you get to keep a miniature version of the trophy, which is actually so cool. And, no, and also it feels a bit like a monkey off my back. I, like, having done it. A what?

A monkey off my back. You know, like a spectre on your shoulder? Nobody? A spectre on my shoulder? Like, a thing that hangs over you. Like, I was like, it's nice to have done. Okay. And not feel like I could never do it.

Okay. Like, it's like, nice. I've never heard that phrase before. Really? A monkey on my back. Like on a strike in my shoe. it's like an actual phrase this is one of those things

like a ghost of my wardrobe am I right well this really is like a thing like a leprick one in my ear oh it's good to get it done it's like that but I guess it's like what people do say okay but I've never heard it

no and then therefore it mustn't be real and also you've got to mention the best thing is the free breakfast you get free breakfast and actually you get um sausage sandwiches ding ding ding ding ding me ming and you've got to know this point of fringe you're so broken like anyone offering you like sandwiches on a platter it's just like it's

kind of emotional it really meaningfully is you're just like fuck yes what did you have i had veggie sausages in a wrap lovely delicious in a bath any sauces i didn't have time because my show was at 12 and the awards around 11 so actually speaking of the best agent in the world claire shout out claire got me a sandwich and stuffed it into her pocket so i could eat it in the taxi on the way to my show what a cool queen what a fucking queen that's legendary and that's so nice but no sauces well i mean she has a really nice jacket no i wouldn't expect you to put sauce in there what sauces does one put with a veggies obviously ideally you'd have ketchup but we didn't have time also everyone was bar hanging you couldn't

get to the sauces yeah that's true they were blocking the oh andrew came as one of my guests i know he did i think that's so lovely wasn't it nice wasn't it nice so lush so katherine big french i was so proud you should have seen me in london So Neil was still like groggy and sleeping and not quite up yet. But like I saw you'd been nominated. At 3.30? Insane. It was at 3.30?

The absolute sleeps on this man this summer is incredible. Or what I really think is happening is he's pretending to sleep. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To like avoid me. Just to have some alone time. Yeah. But I was like, oh my God.

Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh, my God. They've been nominated. And he turned out already knew because Nicola Chris's partner had like messaged saying and then like apparently they must have found out or something and I was like for fuck sake

but the list was like you I mean come on wasn't that the cutest list you found it an hour before it goes public and yeah the list was heaven on earth I got in a taxi because okay so I had to rush from the awards off with Chris Cantrell because his show was also on at 1215 literally up the road to me so he got a taxi with him and his wife

of my agent Claire and he was just blubbering in the cutest where he just was so proud of Amy and that is why I love that list because it was like just people just legends supporting legends it was so cute yeah it was so so cute it's also because it's not much where you get to be like oh I'm proud and I've made the people that work with me and put so much time and effort into me I've made them proud as well and it's so lovely to be like it's it's more than this but like that first time you get a sticker saying good work instead of just a tick on your homework.

I know, it really is. It does feel like an excellent sticker. You're like, what the hell? Or like a big VG and red pen. But you, oh my God, the VG. The VG. Just to get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My English teacher used to occasionally write nice underlined. Nice. Oh, that feels so Irish.

Nice. Oh, come on. That's good gear. That's good gear. And a red inky pen. I think you're amazing. And I think to do that, on a year where your focus was incredibly split as far as like doing the radio four show TLDR alongside doing a show like there was a lot going on and it's like it just shows how powerful you are and do you remember in I'm not going to get the full context of this conversation because I feel like it's too private maybe in the patron episode remember the end of July when

we're talking about like I feel like we both just need to like have a little bit more belief and take some risks because sometimes like just it's easy to do you. this in the careers in the arts or anyone who's self-employed will understand this. Like, you're scared of taking a risk because if it doesn't work off financially, you do pay for it. And also, like, sometimes, like, it can be a struggle to bounce back from things or things go massively wrong. And also, if you take a risk, then you're taking time out or something else that might be something that does earn you money. And, like, and it's sort of like, we both said, like, I remember, oh, there's so much context of this, but like, they're like, next year,

I think it would be amazing if we both did say, like, fuck it. Yeah. I'm taking a bit of a risk. feel like we've both figured out quite a lot recently. We could back ourselves a bit more. Yeah. And I think we do sometimes play it a little bit like, I know this, I know this room or I know this time or like, I know this.

So like, go like, fuck it, I'm going to go off a tall room size. Or like, and just sort of being like, and if it doesn't sell out, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because I tried. Who cares what other people think. Yeah.

Because I tried. Yeah. I am really, really, really pride of it and pride of myself. And also like, it was a big year. lot of stuff happened moved agents etc and um lots of stuff that felt like oh god this is big change yeah um so yeah it was a very nice clap on the back and i feel very happy if i'm honest and how are you celebrating this is another thing that you've learned recently you're taking another oh yes i'm going

on holiday when you said another i immediately was overcome with guilt i was like when was my last one oh my god you took one earlier in the year where did i go you're allowed to take a break i went to the cottage I did go to the cottage. Yes. No, I'm going on... We are going on holiday. See, the cottage became all work. So we are going.

But this time you're doing it again. This time we're going and we're going to Greece and we can't work. And there's no jobs that are coming over it, touch wood. And everything's just so nice. And I'm so excited we're going to... It's just Ellen and I. And we're going to a nice Greek island. I've never been to Greece.

It's where my parents honeymoon, as you know, with the seedless grapes. I'll not go there again. It's so fucking wild, man. And then we... No, we have to go there again. Just to be clear, my parents are their first seedless grape in Greece in 84.

So mental. So I'm pretty excited to see what my first will be in Greece. My mum saw her first dog in Malta in 1975. Okay. No, she didn't. Fuck you. Fuck you. I am really excited and I haven't been on a sun holiday.

Do you learn any Greek? God, no. But I bought a lot of SPF. I bought a lot of P. 20, my go-to-son holiday SPA. I've seen that one in the boxes. Yeah, oily bit of business, but it really covers you up for the day. Yeah, it's really exciting.

And I'm just going to lie down and read a book. I'm actually going to read Pierre Novelli's book. Yes. I'm going to read, reread Rose Cartwright's book because the maps we carry because it was too much to process the first time. And, yeah, I'm excited. Do you want to borrow anything?

Any relaxation stuff? I'm trying to think what I, no, I think I'm going to buy myself one. Coloring books. Oh God, no, no, no, I'm well. Thank you so much, thank you. You're famously not a wow. But, okay, but I'm... You're not, Catherine, just to be clear,

you're doing really well, but you're not a well. A well felt like an extreme, that was defensive. You're mentally... You can't make me. You're mentally unwell. But I'm not... Catherine. No, no, no, no, no.

I could never, I could never, I could never, I could never. If I were to do an equivalent of colouring, for me, it's knitting. Yes. But I haven't gotten any... I'd like to get you a little tapestry set, maybe. Oh, that might be nice. Maybe I'll just get myself a pair of knitting needles. Do it, go crafty. Yeah. But to be honest with you, I just can't wait to lie down, sleep, be in the sun.

I'm going to get so many freckles, I'm going to swim, we're going to go to the beach. I'm really excited. I actually feel so lucky to be going on holiday, like so, so, so lucky. Do you have a pool or is it sea swimming? I think there's a small pool where we're staying and then, but we'll go to the sea. I love to be in the ocean. Oh, my God. It's my dream. Do you have any of the inflatables?

No, that's not a thing we're worried about You should get one No, no, no, no, not water wings I mean like a big unicorn Yeah, you know, I knew what you meant No, no, I was with you, I wasn't, I can swim Pool noodles You know, we didn't check on the website for that

As the first port of call You're gonna go on a banana boat Um, again, no, it's Kefalonia It's where, oh, it's where Captain Crowley's Mandolin was set, so maybe I'll read that um don't oh it's good but do you have you read it i remember reading it years ago i'd have to read it again because all i can remember and this this could be actually completely wrong now i'm saying it because maybe i didn't read it but like did you watch the nicholas cage film instead no i haven't

seen the film case i imagine that um i will find it but all i remember is like the opening chapter and i remember thinking like has someone swapped the book over with a different like cover because i got off a charity shop is about a man really clear details about a man who's got a bit death because he's got a pee in his ear and the doctor comes over and says you have to soak it in oil and leave your head in the sun outside of this window and then he comes up the next day and he removes it because it's like floated up to the striped piece right off the surface I remember thinking this cannot be a love story this cannot be right but I think that is the opening chapters it is and also is Nicholas Cage and Penelope Cruz.

Good for them. Good for them. Is the opening chapter about someone who's like getting their hearing sorted? Yeah. Also there was a TV series and the opening episode is titled A P in the Year. Wow. But it's like in detail. I could get into that.

Because I remember thinking you can't have your head in the sun. I like watching those videos where they pull things out of people's ears. Oh my God, it's so good. Yeah. I don't like the spot ones. Those are repulsive. But I like the ones where they pull the wax out. The Hoover.

Oh, haven't we seen the hoover? These have all been like, almost like plucking utensils. Fabulous. The one that's like... If you push down on a spot, it would come up.

No, I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever gone to the doctor and asked if you needed it? My ears are fine, thank you. I asked.

Do you need it? Last time I went, I was like, oh, just to check, is there anything in my ear? She's like, oh, are you struggling with your hearing? And I was like, I don't know. I'm saying really coy. You tell me.

And I was really hoping she'd look in. it and be like oh my god you need an irrigation no she was like there's nothing yeah i have had them check recently because i had a sinus thing and they're like no ears are fine and i was like bam out of all the one i also i don't know what it is about my hearing but like i probably need to get tested but i always feel like i could be existing on a higher hearing plane i know the feeling like yeah i just need them to pop or something but yes yeah should we do like a like a trip to get our hearing tested I genuinely love that I actually could do

in my site being tested as well I think it's fine but I wouldn't mind Do you know where we should all go Boots? No I mean Boots is also great Boots does it Boots does it

Turkey I know of people go over to Turkey for like cheap hair transplants and stuff but you can go to this medical centre Are you going to go to hair transport? No no

Okay I was very telling that's your first thought though You opened with it You opened with it Why are we in Turkey otherwise Because they have this massive medical centre where you can have a full body MOT

and it's like £600. You also stay on site and there's like an all inclusive restaurant and a pool. This is a con. No, no, no. I get TikToks about it all the time. It's real.

That's a con. No, no, no. At least three TikTokers still have organs. Okay, tell me everything. So what's the MOT? They just like, they do scans of everything. They take bloods. They do a physical.

You can have like a full. Shut up! It's like very cheap in Turkey and you also have this beautiful resort. And yeah, they do. they just treat you very well. Come on. I'm not going to do that.

Okay, imagine if they graded you for how good your body is at the end and you got a V-good. I just think it's... How about if you got a nice underline? Honestly, there's enough stuff. Everything I know about my body worries me. I don't need to know anymore, thank you.

Yes. Do you know what I'm saying? I'm like, that's none of my business. If it hasn't come up, then just leave it alone. I don't know. Are you not terrified that there's always something lurking underneath? If this is like those people who ask their partners what they give them out of 10,

I'm like, what are you... What are you doing? Sorry, what? I know people who've asked their partners like, if you had to give me a square out of 10, what would it be? And it's like, are you high? Exactly, I'm.

Exactly. So you have to say 10. I think 9 is acceptable because it's like, I don't put you on a pedestal. But I still think, yeah, 10 is probably the only acceptable answer. But also my point is like, where are you going with that question? In the same way that like, I don't... If I can't afford an MOT, first of all, which I can't,

I'm sure probably can't afford whatever it is. I need to get done to get fixed if it's not an emergency. So just leave it a laugh. I'm kind of with Andrew though because I'm just sort of like it's the unknown that I'm just sort of like Okay but here's the thing

what could a doctor let's just say there's something right that the doctor needs to tell you like they do an MOT and they're like oh here's some advice I'm guessing we could all probably posit

what the first five things the doctor would tell us are and I don't want to hear them that's why I haven't changed any of those things in my life and I feel like we all feel the same no i want to know yeah helen do you smoke yeah but i didn't smoke for four days three days three days i didn't smoke all weekend right but do you know what i'm saying do you see where i'm going with this

yeah but that's i think that's a really good step in the right direction and i'm proud of myself and um yeah um yes they'll tell me the smoking thing but there's other stuff like remember when i sprained my ankle and i found out there was an extra bone and my foot growing out my bottom of my It was good to know. You've got the calcaneum spur thing? Yes, yeah. Yeah. They called it, but yeah.

And it's like this, like a little dinosaur at the bottom of your heel. And it's like, oh, that explains why my heel hurts all the time. Yeah, I think I did like that. Because there's an extra bone that's going to start digging into the skin one day. That's going to be very painful.

They called it Cancaneal Ophysitis. Maybe that's what it is and I heard I've changed it to Calcanium Spur because I can say it and remember it. It could just be different things. It feels very Roman. No, I like to think we've got the same foot thing. The fact that at the level of disgust,

I feel even one of those conversations happening tells me I just don't need an MOTI I don't want to know what's going I've always I've been to Turkey sounds lovely look at that look at the resort

you can go without charming they're not going to steal your organs look at that lobby that's lovely you can go without them doing anything medical to you you're just allowed to go to Turkey

but what's the point without going you're allowed to go to Turkey without seeing a doctor FYI can that be a PSA you are allowed to go to Turkey without seeing a doctor

you can just go there have a nice time yeah but while you're over there They might as well get something done. No, I don't think so. I'm in the area, I might as well get stuff. I've got the meat.

I just need a lift. Oh, my God. It's a note from me. There's like a whole page on Instagram of people coming back from Turkey and the planes. And to Neil Glott did. It's a upsetting. It's just like, it's a plane full of lads with their hair transplant. Jesus.

It's incredible. And women who can't sit down fully. Why? Oh, because they're bums. I'd never get hair transplant. Once I did a gig and I have a joke about my hairline. Yeah. And this guy rushed backstage and he was like, I went to Turkey and he's like, oh, sorry, good set, by the way.

I went to Turkey and I was like pointing his head, like, you never tell. I'm like, this isn't the after gig feedback I want. No, no, definitely not. You'd never? Never, no. How come? I think it scares me. Also, seeing all the like little pricks on the head with the little blood dots, oh, no, horrible.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that if I started to lose my hair, I probably would. Would you? Yeah, I think I probably would get a hair. hair translated for my because my i mean i have a very high forehead and sometimes people ask me if my hair is receding um who is asking these questions yeah people are terrible but um that is awful it's not thank you it's just always this high she's just got a massive weird forehead massive massive massive leave her alive she's got a fucking i just have a fucking giant five head and it's none of your

business thank you just like queen elizabeth which is why i answer her in all quiz questions Does Queen Elizabeth have a freaky forehead too? Famously large forehead. But that was in vogue, so they used to, in that era, whenever it was, used to shave back the hairline to create a higher forehead because it was seen as aristocratic.

Love changing fashions. Isn't it astonishing? Yeah. I can't believe that was such a desired thing. Yeah. I mean, the famous one for our generation people talk about is the eyebrows. Yeah.

Like for our generation, it was like, the less eyebrow you have, the better. And it's gone so wild now Sweet God and some poor women are left with the remnants of that Forever and ever and ever I know some plucked but they were so fit then Thin eyebrows is back in

No I will never ever ever allow that to happen to me again Never When is the upper hair lip coming back in That must have been a thing for a while Back in feels strong Everything was in its front point Yeah it is astonishing how like how, God, how brief

that so hilariously brief window of Curve was back in for a second there, body positivity until everyone realised, oh, this is a tablet? Fine, we don't have to be positive about our bodies at all! Oh, thank God! I always have to be positive about my body, thankfully. Hips are still in, aren't they?

Just about, I'd say. I'd say just about. Tell the tube chairs, make them wider, we'll start there. You know what? I sat on my first chair that I would say was, genuinely too tight the other day. Where?

I was having a walk, Hot Girl Walk. I love that for me. I love that for me. I love that for me. Where? Well, I was having a walk. I'm going to need you to roll back.

Sorry. I was having a walk. I'm going to break. Yeah. From the walk. And I sat down on what I thought with these absolutely charming chairs. Yeah, where? In which park is it now?

Burgess Park. Where's that, my love? Charming. It's like towards elephant and castle. Fine. Right? and sat down and I was like I genuinely think if I stand up

this chair is coming with me I hate that metal was so painful it's ridiculous what the fuck is this built for? While we're on this could there be one fucking toilet engineer designer whoever who thinks

I don't like yes I'm sorry I mean it's public bathroom he doesn't think huh maybe this bin for sanitary products doesn't need to touch a woman's thigh what if it was far enough way that I could sit down without sitting out on it

could that be could it why is it so fucking close make them lower make them lower and longer if you need to but why is it always in my business

thank you and while we're redoing the toilets in the UK go on let's talk about the wave and flush what are we doing

with our broadbacked women yeah who every time they sit down in the toilet it flushes immediately put them higher put them higher lean forward to get the toilet well.

We're having a flush again. I'm up to about four flushes before I'm ready to fucking flush. Let's not get rid of the wave and flush because some of us don't want to touch that. Let's lift it. But let's raise it. Let's lift it. Raise the roof. Raise the roof.

Because my body is waving that 24-7. Mine flushes it and I'm not as tall as you. So come on. I'm a five-foot-five woman. It's mental. It's deranged. Also, love that my back is the same size of the hand though. Like little wave.

Also, I should probably stop going on the toilet like there. Yeah, that's how we, that's an odd move. But yeah, those are my thoughts, and I... I've got another thing for the bathroom. Please. We definitely want our soap to come out just automatically. Yes, yes. We do not want the hand pump.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. We've learned a lot since COVID. Can we circle back to the, in the stall? Yes. With those weird little, they like, who put the tissue through that little, like, anus-sized hole? You know, you know the one, you have to like, why am I? pinching. Just fucking let it roll, man.

Let it roll. Why? What is that? And then it gets caught and then you're done. You're done. And then you need to wipe, but it, though. Oh, God, it's a fucking mind there. It's awful out there.

Do you know what I'm saying about those pinch little guys? Yeah. Why is it like, and you know it's in there. You know it's got a full roll in there. But look, Helen, get that out. Get that out. Get that. Get that.

I can't. You have to. You have to. Everyone's waiting. The girls are waiting for. So now I'm drip drying. Now I'm drip drying. Oh my God.

And it's not okay. There's a whole roll in here. Everyone does carry tissues with them everywhere they go. And also, can I say this? Can I say this? Please. When there's a queue for a public bathroom, people then spend longer in the stalls.

Say more on that. A hundred percent. Because they need a reward for their waiting. You think it's like a status thing. I'm telling you the arrogance of people from the shift from the queue to the stool is mental. They're like, I've stood here for, I've earned it. Honestly, usually about three minutes. This is my house now. But they're like

Can I say something? This is mine. May I? May I? Public toilets? Why aren't we playing music? Why aren't we playing music? What, yeah, what are you why wouldn't you play music? Who wants a stark silence in a bathroom? Perverts. It's just so, it's like public shaming. It's like, what are you doing? Just fucking play, play the song. Yeah. Because people are piss shy.

Like, let's just have a couple of tunes going. What would be your ideal public toilet playlist? Loud. Don't give a shit what it is. Loud. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to be heard. Just play it.

What about something to, like, encourage. Like, don't go chasing water balls. Listen to the rivers and the... I don't need it to be quirky. I just need it to be loud. There's an audio book, an audible of Rachel McAdams reading Anne of Green Gables. Wouldn't that be charming?

That'll work. That'll work. Just like Anne of Green Gables. you sit down and have a share. If it's a book, it needs to be playing in every toilet at all time so that you can be like, oh, I've not heard this bit before so you can piece the story together at some point. That's lovely.

Wouldn't that be nice? Yes. Yeah. Anyway. There's so much we could do if they were willing to put the money in, but that's the British government for you. No, I'm saying the state. Because you imagine if I'm like, thank God the conservative.

Thank God those fucking Tory fucks are out. Because now we can get solving the real problems and broken, broken Britain Let's fix our toilet Rachel Mac Adams And a Green Gables girl And let's figure out a floating bin Have you watched disobedience yet

Disobedience How many times I'd tell you Rachel McAdams Rachel Vice Lesbian movie Go Pardon Emma's asking of Catherine

Yeah I think it's good And also it's not about it being good Em It's about it being fucking sexy don't listen to her look at me em said hmm like not quite sure it's got drama it's got intrigue and it's sexy problem is it a movie yeah yeah i will watch it is just that have you haven't seen carroll save that for christmas no but you didn't mention car the other day and i saw it popped off on like a streaming service so i was like it's that's for christmas um do you want to know what i did watch while you were

being very busy and working and doing lots of stuff um obviously still watching a lot of new films. I've done some absolute clangers recently. Karate Kid. Not as good as you think. I love Karate Kid, the entire series. Have you watched the one with... Series?

Yeah. Yeah. I've watched one. No, not Kobra Kai the series. Karate Kid one, Karate Kid, two. Karate Kid. Oh, it's the movie series. Sorry, yes, yeah.

No, I saw one. Hilary Swank is the girl one. No, that's, that's boxing. It's a million dollar baby. No, Hillary Swank was the girl karate kid. The girl one? The Karate Kid S, yes. Oh, Slay.

I, no, I just... Sorry, this is such a funny photo. I don't know why it's so unthreatening. If you type in Karate Kid, Hillary Swang is just that like that. That's a million dollar baby. No. No, that is Karate Kid. It's so good.

The next Karate Kid. He finds her because she's walking across the street and then a car skids around the corner and then she jumps up onto the bonnet. That's her reflexes. And I was, I did Karate Kid when I watched the Karate Kid. Yeah. I watched you have a lot of a carot kid. understand that I watched I did karate from 8 to 18 my fucking love for karate kid

films what sorry sorry one second I have a European bronze medal in karate one one one second yeah what on behalf of everyone in this room with three years into this podcast how we just find out and like eight years into our friendship oh yeah you're you did a decade of karate yeah at a very strange place called Karate, I did Kantani Doe, which is a specific type of, um, get this, Irish-Japanese mix. And, um, this, the senseys often spoke Osweilga. I think I was sort of an IRA front, but anyway. Yeah, we competed.

Oh, that's fun. If you gave me all of my friends on a picture and said which one learned karate for a decade, you would be the bottom of my... Really? Uh, hundred percent. But I have such strong legs. it's nothing to do with your fitness it's vibes really yeah that's i am so surprised really yeah it was really intense we did um i did it twice a week saturday afternoons and wednesday evening oh this was you were in yeah yeah yeah and um it was really intense and it was mainly men and a couple of us well two women and three

girls and the fitness element of it was really intense so you'd have to do run circles and circles and circles with this huge gym and they would call orders and they would call a dojo and it would they would call orders so it would be like like jumps or push-ups or sit-ups or punches and it would just go on forever and ever and ever but it's like the only time in my life I've ever had a like a six-pack stop it for 10 years I'd have a six-pack for 10 years no but I for a very brief period I'm making intense abs. And what colour bell did you have? I got to blue, but it was years in the making of this process.

So honestly, like every bell took so long because it was white, white and gold, yellow, yellow and gold, green, green and gold, red and gold, red and gold, blue and gold, brown, black and white, blah. It took forever, it took like honestly so long. I'm in awe of you right now Thank you My first question was a boy of karate Maybe not first My first boy crush was a boy of karate Oh my god

I'm fascinated My friend's dad taught karate in Bracknell To kids But I never went But apparently he started every lesson with Remember kids Love that, love that love that We used to do this like really long

Oh no I didn't finish Oh yeah I love that. Oh, I love that. Oh, I love that. Very draw. Welcome to my life, motherfucker. That's what it feels like. Can I try again, please? Remember kids. Remember kids. We learn karate, so we never have to use karate. That was a big one. They loved to say that. They loved them. Is that like a thing? Yeah, we used to also do a lot of, so we would do, on Wednesday night,

it was the senior class. and after that we would do self-defense go on senior class being like senior school age or oap seniors be no it was no kids so it was like so you had to be 15 I think to be in that class so the weekend every age group was in okay great good great and so on Wednesday nights it was like older group and um after that they would do self-defense classes and it was honestly okay trigger warning I'm gonna talk about the kinds of scenarios in which you'd be attacked it would be with like the greatest degree of like absolute disregard for human emotion

it would just be like an older Irish man being like right so this one would be like if a man comes at you in the night with the dark like in the dark with a knife and you'd be like I'm sorry what sorry like this one would be if a man jumps on you when you can't see him this one would be if there's no point in screaming that kind of stuff and you'd be like oh my god

you'd be like leaving me like I'm just going to run to the car dad extracurriculum and they used to always open with this at the end of when we did the self-defense because we did weaponry as well they used to always open with this

and his wasn't remember we used karate although he did say that to never use he used to always just say remember girls ultimately you're never really going to win against a man and he wasn't saying like in terms of skill he was just like they can have never done any of this but they'll just be bigger

and stronger than you so run if you can thank you Sense. Wow. Yeah. It's kind of... Intent.

It explains my personality of fear that I... Yeah, it does explain some things and it's also like, fuck. That's grim. Yeah, it was really grim. But also... What else don't I know about you? But also, like, I have taken a punch in a kick and can... And that is a good thing, I think, to have, like, get the fear of that out of your way sometimes.

You punch in a kick at the karate? Yeah. Sorry. I thought separately you have No, no, that was also been in a fight club Yeah It was a fight club Um, but yeah

Ellen says the only way she can see it is if like If we'll play like If she like tries to touch me You can say play fighting me and me and the ill play fight Okay but like if she tries to touch me I have quite good reflexes on I'm batting away Stop it

Yeah This is insane Yeah What got you into it? A girl called Kelly Frather shout out Kelly Kelly Fraher She was my best friend

In primary school We both did it together Initially in Dumboyne Moved to the Cool Mine Centre I love this Yeah Do you ever want to pick it up again I'd love to

I genuinely would love to I think it was a really fun way To exercise without thinking about exercise And by that I mean like I think when I watch Ellen go to football She gets to play And then incidentally she exercises I always have to exercise

Kind of for the point of exercising And I really liked that about karate and dance, but especially about karate. I thought that would dance and it's tapping year eight for a bit. Yeah, and you just didn't really think about the fact that you were. That was just an incidental. You were learning a skill. And yeah, I really liked it. We used to, um, the only weapon I did was called the Joe and it was a, it looks like a broomstick.

I love the idea that they just gave women like household objects as well. No, no, the men did it too. I know, the men did it too. Come on, girls, let's see things that you'd have around the house. that you'd be using a lot when you're older. Yeah, come on, girlie! If it's a man run

and if you have to fight, use the broom. No. Yeah. But yeah, I didn't know I didn't tell you about this. No one knew. Oh, yeah.

The shock. So I used to be able to do the splits but only because an older Irish man who would go old sense, used to sit on my shoulders when we used to do stretching. They would sit on your shoulders until you could do the splits.

Terrifying. To Ireland, I guess. to Ireland to Ireland Should we do a problem from a listener My mind is so blind by you right now Like this is crazy

You're going to Greece Catherine you're fiving Thank you so much Speaking of Ireland We're in Dublin next week We're in Dublin next week We're going to The Emerald Isle

I don't know why I said that I was doing an impression of you No we are We're coming to Ireland And we're very excited We'll be at the Laughterland 19th of September I can't wait

It's going to be so exciting I can't wait to meet the Irish Hogs Is there going to be a room full of Catherine's do you reckon I'm trying to remember my tour show there

We'll know based on how early they are Do you know what I imagine Have you seen the episode of SpongeBob Where he meets his extended family And it's all just like Different variations of sponge No

But that's so cute And I would like to see that It's a very cute episode But I'm just imagining that We just walk in It's just like sort of ginger Variations of Catherine in different heights

And sizes and shapes is yeah that'd be cute oh my god a load of people every time when I say anything

going no no no Ellen oh my god oh please bring your friends as well because we haven't

old enough tickets yet to Dublin and to be fair to the venue they are like do you want to sell a few more

and we do the answers we do and if anyone was friends with Catherine from the dojo we'd love you to come down

and do some sparring please come down and do some sparring in fact reach out to me if you're a dojo friend I'll get you in

Yeah, if anyone from Cantani Doe Cool Mine wants to come to the old podcast recording by all means, but especially Kelly Friher, who I went to school. Do you get you like an outfit again? I'd stop for saying her full name, maybe. What? You'll get you the karate outfit. Oh yeah, I had the white one. We can get you a white green and orange though. I bet.

They are some of the most comfortable clothes you'll ever wear. Flea? Yeah. Well, I can't wait. I actually would like to do it again. Does I even know any good East London? Dojos that are female inclusive? Let me know.

I mean, if they're going to be anywhere, they're going to be in East London. You know it. You know it. You'll be laughing. I reckon just ask some of the girls at Matitude and you'll be fine. Oh my gosh. That came out so much more. Somebody's got Matitude. I don't know, maybe ask some of them like a bitchers at Matitude.

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Or worse. Yeah. I'll take either. Go on, Andrew. Oh, well, here's a problem that is yet to be updated. It's very fresh. Three days. ago. This came in.

Oh my God. Here we go. Hot off the press. Hot off the press. From F. Hi F. Hi F. Hi, Hogs. I'm a 36-year-old bisexual woman who back in June broke up with her boyfriend of 16 years. Slay. Whoa. You'd been dating since you were 20 and you've only broken up in June.

Okay, so July August. Wow, two months after 16 years. Funny out. Whilst we loved each other very much and still do on my part, our relationship did not survive various things we've gone through this past year. Okay. My problem is that as we got together so young, I went to uni together, we have the exact same friend group. Oh, dang. Whilst me and my ex hope that we can be friends in the future, we know that we both have a lot of stuff to work through before we can even think about that and therefore have been hanging out with our friends separately.

So mature. Very. However, it always feels like the elephant in the room whenever I hang out with friends. And whilst I'd love to talk to them about the breakup, I'm worried about making them feel like they have to choose a side. How do I learn to hang out with my friends that I'm going to. no longer now that I'm no longer in the relationship I just want to be able to hang out with them normally but it's very exhausting at the moment love you guys F that's hard and love you F love you F hmm times a healer is the main thing that comes to my brain yeah right like over time

this will get easier but does not help you as of right now I think from experience here we go here we go there isn't a right answer to this question but that I do think

I can't be doing with elephants and rooms I have to talk about the thing so what I tended to do whether this was right or wrong I don't know but what I tended to do

and what worked best for me was to say to each friend when I hung out with them like hey this thing's obviously going to be a thing sometimes I'm going to want to talk about it. What's your feeling on that? And then I would keep them updated on how I felt about hearing about the person. From the perspective of being someone who was in the relationship, not as a friend.

Yeah. So with it, with, so like with some of my friends, with a lot of my friends, I was like, I don't want to hear about this. So if you hung out with them, I don't need to know. If you saw them, don't need to know. And then when that changed, I'd be like, I'm actually okay with hearing about it if I ask. And then other times it would be like, okay, I think I'm now. at a point where you can mention them casually and some people were like I'm not going to be able to necessarily always not mention it and I'm sorry if that makes you uncomfortable like sometimes I just will forget or I don't want to like lie and I was like that's fair enough but I had the conversation openly with each person um and I asked people if they were comfortable talking about

it with me because I like you are in some cases asking them basically not to mention things to other people the other person right like you're basically like want to be able to have your feelings held but not necessarily relate to the other person um which is a lot of girly wally wally relationships it's a lot of girly whirley you know but you can't tell them yeah just because I'm saying this doesn't mean you can ever repeat it but obviously you're going to and then I'm going to be in a conversation next week and be like oh my god I can't believe she told you and it's like yeah but you told me yeah what the fuck is going on and then we end up going like well screw it free the nipple yeah free the nipple but also i do think it doesn't get better fast but it does get better

right yeah can we address the picking sides thing yeah i don't think why i don't see a world in which they'd have to pick a side just because you want to talk about it like i think i think i think that it's tricky people will often victimise the person who's been left and they will sometimes victimise themselves guilty and uh you know but i think everyone knows you have to be able to leave relationships yeah you have to be able to but yeah i think i think particularly like f's in their 30s like it's just like it can feel like people are picking sides but i don't think people actively are. They're trying to hold on to like their friendships.

Yeah, true. And I think that your awareness of side picking. And obviously, as the friend, you can be aware that it could be construed that you're picking a side. But I don't think people want to or necessarily are. No, I think it's more uncomfortable

for people. They're more panicked that they might seem like they might be. Yeah. Also, like your friends will fuck up. And so will you. You'll at one point ask for information that you actually didn't want to know. Yep.

or you'll cut yourself off from information and then find things out by surprise randomly and then be like, why did nobody tell me? Yeah, why did no one fucking tell me this was happening? Yep. So like there will be just your feelings to it would change. But just like, inevitably there will be one friend in this friendship group that you are just closer to than everyone else

and as long as that friend and you can have that complete transparent back of course you're not alone with it through the breakup. I think that's fine, right? But gosh, like these are completely normal. feelings I think the thing that is quite embarrassing that you feel quite like shame around it's like oh god making anybody feel uncomfortable making anybody think that you care make anybody think that you don't care making them all sort of drawn into it is like yeah it's not your fault and that is the risk of you know building a life with someone yeah and I promise you

none of them have to deal with it like you guys do so it's fine happens if we break up like what happens to Andrew and M what do you know what do you mean like if we broke up yeah in like years and years to come yeah like something like I end up in hospital again for eating something and you're like I can't do this again I fully understand the part where we break up but what do you mean what happens to Andrew and M do they have to pick sides or do we just like pick now um because I think I'd want both right for emotional support yeah yeah yeah also to like link me to the queer community really nicely yeah interesting also I feel like you have a girl friend.

Yeah. And I'm single, so I might need the support. So I think I'll take both. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All good? Yeah, I've always found, like, ultimately they choose themselves,

so I'm cool with that. Really? Yeah, they'll ultimately find their best places. Bitch. Do you, um, I'm a mother in court who'd be like, put the kids on the stand, motherfucker.

You are, you are. Put them up here. I know who'll not pick. Mommy loves you. Mommy loves you. Never forget. even need to say anything. Who did your homework for you?

Who got you that A in English? You're not welcome. Don't need to say any of that. If you've done it, you don't need to say any of it. Oh my God. I am. Genuine question.

Do you ever being the one in the relationship that then like being an F's position is also like a really good chance to like cull some people? Oh my God, you must. I used to do some stand up about this. I used to do stand up about this. That a breakup is a beautiful opportunity

to lose the friends that they were friends within you also knew. And I think there is something to be said for a tactical. Like what you want to do is like think carefully. When somebody from their side of the fences you might consider it or ideally someone who you want them to have messages you with like a really effusive like oh my God, poor of you. You like you want to keep that response like thank you for reaching out.

I really appreciate it. Thank you. But not oh my God, thanks so much. I'd love to see. Thank you. I really appreciate you for reaching out. Thank you so much. Bye.

See ya. I just got a message from someone I've just realized. No! Am I being cold? I'm being cold. Maybe. That's okay. Okay.

Oh. But F, you got this. And the hardest part is sort of done. You've ripped off the band-aid, but fuck me. It doesn't get easy, quick. Have a fish supper tonight? Fish and chips? That usually makes me feel a bit better.

I do love a fish and chips. To be fair, that does make you feel better. A lovely chippy tea. But only two months after the breakup. Oh, you might be. getting your appetite back by now. For sure. I'd have a chippy tea if I were you. Do you think? Yeah. And get

a bread roll with it. And curry sauce. And curry sauce. No, soft white bread. Not a bread roll. Make a chippy curry sauce sandwich. You're doing that on a soft white bread. You're not doing that on a bread roll. You can get you get baps in fish and chip shops in this country. No, soft

white bread. Come on. Grow up. Come on. And then, or make a bit butty. What party? A bit to butter. You know, when you get bits or scraps, just the, the batter that's falling off like the fish and stuff and you put it in a sandwich would catch up.

Are we trying to get F to slowly kill themselves? Maybe that's what we're saying. No! It's just going to suck for a bit but you've got to look at the positives of it. And F, do you want a podcast to listen to? Because speaking of putting children on the stand

and culling, I've been listening to a podcast. I'm nervous, Catherine. I've been listening to a podcast about people with fictitious disorder who have, do munchessons by proxy and it's called no one should believe me and it is absorbing so obviously i'm in i know yeah damn it katherine um is this i'm so obsessed with women with fictitious disorder i can't stop listening to podcasts about them ficti i do you can't believe you keep finding them it's

impressive wait can you just no one should believe me fictitious disorder no it's just called no one should believe me no one oh my god my podcast is so tragic listening to back to the bar oh f good luck let us know how you get on my love and listen like they say it just takes half the time we were together to get over them so give it another seven years 10 months and you'll be grand my sweet enjoy the fishy chips have a good week everyone see you for the updates on it oh my god sorry you have wanted us to listen to this podcast because the names of the episodes are so depressing but also like I can't believe that we just recommend it for this sweet person who's going through a breakup

listen to a podcast about win-win-win fictional disorder I think it's important to listen to people whose lives are worse than yours. Oh my God. That's why we have so many listeners. That's why we have so many listeners. Helen say goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. See you next week. Bye. Bye. Bye. Hello, executive producers in that lounge there.

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