Trusty Hogs - Ep154. Coraline, Compromise and Couples Therapy

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

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Your collar's up, you look like Rizzo from Greece, and it's sexy as hell. Welcome to episode 154. Please stick with the program. Welcome to episode 154, trusty hogs. My name is Rizzo. There are worse things I could do. And this slide is Catherine Bohart, aka what character on Greece do you want to be for the sake? Well, the one who's affronted by you calling her a slots?

So who do you think? Look at me. French. I'm Sandra Day, baby. No, I'm not. I've had way too much sex. Listen, we're both Rizzo's, and that's just the truth of it. Through the fog,

step forth the trusty hogs. Yeah, you're going to give them your problems, and they will solve them, or maybe they won't, and that's your problem. They'll have guests, and Andrew White on the tech. Oh, it's Helen and Catherine as the trusty hogs. Trust the trusty hogs.

Oh, maybe not. Hello, you are. Come on, you just find it, you're gay, please. So listen, hey, everybody, welcome to the podcast. This is the podcast where we tell you about our perfect lives. Andrew's told us we have to be quick with this episode, and so I'm speaking way too fast, even though actually we just need to, like, make time.

It's not like difficult, but why can't I slow down? The best thing happened to us today. That's the way we need to start this episode. No, but I'm so excited. I know you're very excited. Because remember I told you all that we went, I went on a big booth day with my friend Charlie Dick. thinking because my favorite thing to do is go on a big boots.

Boots sent us a big boots bag. I'm so happy, thank you, boots. I'm not even mad about the weird sort of vaginal moisture cream that came with it. I haven't opened mine yet. Vaginal moisture cream, but also lots of gorgeous, amazing stuff I really do actually want. Woo-hoo! Wait, wait, wait, what is vaginal... Wait, I haven't even opened it.

Vaginal moisture cream. You have never experienced this, but imagine... Dry cunt. Yeah. Yeah, I've heard about it. Yeah. So I think they're like in any of... In the eventuality that that might occur, but you even have some...

You have a lovely blonde blonde hair mask in there We have sun cream We have a body lotion We have face cleanser The inky one which I adore We've been really spoiled Thank you to our listener

Who's ended and we are so so so grateful I know we're in a rush And I'm not going to I'm not going to I'm not going to We mustn't we mustn't Also I love you Also Helen

Do I have news for you Go on This week I found An exercise class Too toxic Even for me. And I am proud of you for putting up that boundary. What the

fuck happened in this class? Yeah. I went to a class just a simply named bar. Have I ever done a bar class? No. But I've done ballet size. Yeah. That can't be that different. I did ballet as a child. Sure. I've done Pilates. What of it? I've been to most exercise like Matt. As you know, Matitude, big fan. Shout out Matitude. I went to bar. And afterwards it was made clear to me by every woman who's like genuinely pleading eyes on looked into when I even said or shudder I looked into as I said I'd been to a bar class but it turns that it is quite toxic generally speaking I think but I went into this bar class and already I was

well I was just for perspective I'm going to say I'm going to say it I was twice the size of everyone in the class which given that I'm a tiny woman was like I was like okay this is a really intense class these women have done ballet all their lives right I go in and the door closes in the hottest room I've ever been in and I was like oh is it like it's like a heated class and everyone's like no and I was like amazing great it's like hot in here right it's like it's a warm room the previous people yeah and also just I guess like we don't feel anything is the like the people who looked at me were like hadn't noticed like like it already it was a test minute it already started and I was like ah in comes this honestly furious teacher absolutely livid like she was so enraised

She's also the most muscular lean ballerina I've ever seen. And she's like, morning and plays, honestly, club hits, which were so aggressive. It was like so aggressive, but we did not stop moving for the entire house. The warm up was honestly harder than any exercise class I have ever taken. It's like she hated every single one of us. If you couldn't do something, she'd be like, come on, good morning, wake up. It was like, what the literal fuck. People were honestly, like, you could see in everyone's eyes they wanted to leave and quit.

everyone was absolutely like struggling so hard and she was just like what are you made to do though oh it is like the whole thing is basically you're holding weights and pleading right so it seems like yeah i can do that for five minutes but do it for 55 fucking minutes and it is like honestly hell and so much of it was up on your on the ball of your foot so you'd be up on the ball of one foot and then like pointing the one behind you but it was just so i don't know i haven't most exercise classes i've been in right at the moment know they're not allowed to say at least even if they want to say it

they know they're not allowed to say the body shaming like let's get into those jeans let's get into those bikinis stuff they know they're not allowed to say that anymore so instead they just scream how strong you're becoming because that stops them saying

any of the things they've been told in their manual not to say you are so strong you're so strong you're so strong this woman didn't give a fuck and was just like burn burn burn burn burn burn and was like saying it out loud and I was like I this is what is happening I feel like I'm in hell

I so I couldn't fathom that that could possibly be so but I said at the end because honestly it came out of my face before I expected it to I said to the girl was I'm like have you done this before and she was just like yeah and left and I was like so some people love it oh my god they fucking love it and they love the superiority of it and it was cruel and toxic and it felt like you know like I did ballet as a kid and a lot of those teachers are super toxic as we all did as we But it was like, I did it as a teen. Like I went to the, like, the Irish Ballet Summer Camp and I did all of those things. But I, this was like somebody had like set off a smoke bomb in the bathroom and the teacher

wanted to punish us kind of behavior. This was like, I don't know, it was, it just felt from the second you and in there, brutal. And I was like, it just was horrid. Like Black Swan sort of vibes. Honestly that, but no one ate me out. It's not even me. It was so weird. Anyway, I just thought

And so I went later Maybe four hours later to get a wax And you know when you go to get a wax up Like they do like frog legs And I went to do it And I honestly like couldn't I was like And the

Like body trembling Yeah The waxer was like You okay And I was like I actually went to a really aggressive Ballet class earlier on She's like was a bar

And I was like yeah And she was like Oh my God It's so bad it's awful it's awful and she just kept saying like it's awful it's all over and over and over again this is by the way she's saying it's awful whilst waxing my cun so like to have that woman be like that woman was cruel to you right i was like wow and she said to me and then she went will you go back and the power in realizing i was like no i have enough exercise classes i have too many i'm good

i do not need bar this is the one i'm willing to be like that's just not for me so that was I'm going. I'm going. I'm in. I'm all in. I want to get this woman a peace of my mind. She's so intense, man. She's so intense. But also like, surely there's clearly a market for it. Oh yeah, the room was full. That's what I mean is like, it was crazy to me that it's a thing and people were like, yeah, I'd like to sign up for this. It was awful. There wasn't, like, I'm telling you the warm up was the single hardest thing I've ever done. Like, I was like, and she kept saying this. This one really fucks me off. She kept saying this is the last exercise. She meant in that set. But do not psychological. tell me it's the last exercise when you know you know we have 45 minutes to go

that's a lot of exercising is just being lied to though isn't it being like oh my god we're nearly there five more it's just crazy I was like are you mad she also kept going like I'm not fit I can count though she also did she kept doing this six five four you know what 10 nine eight I was like get to fuck get I just remember that oh my god the whole thing was a horrible horrible horrible horrible I should have actually but I just couldn't you paid no I I wasn't that I just honestly was like paralyzed with fear like I couldn't resist her like I did everything she said no matter how much it hurt I came out and I was like I've hurt my shoulder from that

fast which I've never done anyway all of which to say is like I found my line and it's bar and I think I might have found my opening and it's bar your way in I feel like um oh to completely whack that table I liked it different ways of doing it um me and Alison have gone for two walks recently and we feel like we've figured everything out nice yeah there's these machines that you stand on them and do that and your legs move and we love it oh is there like an outdoor gym in your park there was we used it once then it got taken down um the next day it's been there for about 10 years so we've taken it a bit personally that is a bit savage yeah Alison messaged me being like oh our gym's gone and i was like we've only used it what we've only

just found it we've only just found it why was it gone they were like no not for you yeah it was really weird and it was such a weird day because like I went to get a coffee coffee, like me and Alison Performer, and I went to the coffee shop and a pigeon followed me in and then there was just this pigeon flying around and I was like, well, I sort of like let the pigeon in. So like, it was just, it was just

mad the whole day, crazy. Crazy. But it was one of those, like, it was a good pigeon. Like if you were going to get a pigeon in your coffee shop, it's the one you would have chosen out of a line up. I know what you're saying, I know you're saying, I know what you're saying. Like feathers all in, like two eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We, um...

Two eyes, two eyes. When we went on holiday, you know, the delay with Greece, we met these two young lesbians in the airport by which I mean met, I mean like immediately identified and we're like, we'll be sharing a taxi with you. They were so cute. They were 24 and 25 and just had gotten engaged. They were adorable. Shout out to Grace and Kia. They both work in fashion and they're really good at like thrifting. So they found so many good things. And honestly, we made them do an unboxing of all the things that they bought in Greece in the airport on the way back. But on the way home, they were telling us that they had prior to that. Wait, you traveled back with them as well. We met them at the airport and then we

were both on the overground, on the, whatever overground town. Obviously the overground, it's the gay line. Yeah, well actually it's the Thameslink but we can... Either way you get it. Gays don't go underground. This is the thing. That unless it's gonna be for a good party. That's looking out.

Or a blow job, right? Go down town. No, I meant like club culture, but that's... Oh, club culture. Damn it! Yeah, that's okay. And what I was going to say is, all this is to say that the week before they'd had a very stressful week and I hope they would mind me telling this story, but they had a stressful week because the week before they had found on the street I thought a train station an injured pigeon a small baby pigeon whose mother wasn't around and it was a squab was missing a leg

a squab was missing a leg so they bring down a shoebox and they take the pigeon home not what i would have done which i said to their faces sorry don't mind saying that now they named the pigeon and i do think this is really admirable midge midgy midge the page that's gorgeous bit of invention love that for them right now it transpires midge's leg was just up midd hadn't lost a leg as they previously thought just was just up yeah it went down but um but they called and i didn't know that there was such a thing rs pb no there is a pigeon rehab in south london apparently do you know this no yeah andrew google pigeon rehab there's a real pigeon rehab yeah andrew google pigeon rehab and you're not googling this but get this you have to make an appointment they won't just let you

walking with a sick pigeon, you have to have an appointment in advance. It all seems very strict this. Do you reckon I should make an appointment and then get the pigeon? I think so, but what I didn't know was, yeah, a bit like how you'd have to get your kid into nursery before it's born. That's how in demand this rehab is. But what I didn't know was, and they were all talking like, apparently this is the case. They were so sweet because they were like, it was our duty to help the pigeon because, as you know, we domesticated pigeons.

Correct. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. We domesticated pigeons and then just release them and now they're not, they're not like capable of being in the world. We absolutely fuck them over. That's awful of us.

We domesticate so many things. Do you know about cinnamon? Where was cinnamon up in North England? Is this a guinea pig? No, a capybara, escape from a zoo in Staffordshire. Nightmare. What's a capybara? Capi barra.

Big, big guinea pig is the best way I can describe it. I said, is this a guinea pig and you said no. But like, you're going to have to times that guinea pig by about 200 to get a capybara. Why are we always calling guinea pig's food names? We've been over this. Okay, that is different to a guinea pig. I see that. But like, you can see visually.

So did we domesticate that? And if it's in a zoo, they're immediately domesticated. So this capybara, cinnamon. Cafibara escaped. And it was like living in the woodland for like 10 days or something, right, behind the zoo. And they managed to get it yesterday and thank God they filmed it being like, we've got cinnamon and cinnamon just there in a cage and they're like, he's very tired and very hungry and looks a bit confused.

And cinnamon's like, I've been alone in the woods. And none of you have come and got me because they like found him on thermal imaging. But it was like pitch black so they couldn't find him just to wait for the next day. And he's just there like, what is happening? What is happening? That is so sweet. But cinnamon is home now from what I gather. And okay.

Yes, yes, he is. It's because we domesticate. So Yule Log, you remember from the Cornish Seal Sanctuary. Yeah. Hello, Yorlog. Yeah. One of the ones that hasn't died. So, oh good.

That's what I was going to say. Yule log was at a zoo somewhere in the north of England. Yeah. And then they released him and they like released all their. animals but then your log kept getting in trouble on the beach and having the police called on them and getting into fights with humans

because whenever kids on the beach were playing with a bucket he thought it was a bucket of fish so he'd just fucking oh here I come here I come because they're feeding me. Are you telling people would call the police about that? I think they'd like yeah get arrested or I don't know what happens with animals when they're misbehaving what happens I don't think you call the police do my Google searches have been

horses cause of death shooting horses seal fighting pigeon rehab I'm going to get the RSPC calls. Okay, fine, fair enough, fair enough, Andrew. But, so you will look at to be taken in because then, because he only eats from buckets of fish and he was like so

underweight and they was like, we've got, he's just domesticated now. Wow. Awful. That's intense. So Midge made it though. Oh, no. Oh my God, what's wrong with you? I wasn't going to tell the end of the story. You asked a mad question. Oh, fuck, sorry. Just a moment of silence. And it seems to me you lived your life like a pigeon on the ground, never knowing where your leg was till the rain came down.

You got an appointment and we thought that you would live. Your candle burned out long before. to go to Trafalgut square That was really moving I know you I can feel it genuinely feel quiet I was really emotional Well speaking of being emotional

I had a big cry last night Because I was watching The newest series of And I can't believe no one told me it was out Couples therapies back on BBC Couples therapies back on BBC Do you watch it? No.

Helen, it's the best television I've ever seen. Helen, Helen, I feel like you've told me about this before. Oh my God, sorry. If you haven't seen the four series of couples therapy on BBC, it's one of these single greatest television shows

I've seen in recent years. It is a New York-based couple's therapist, Orna, who is genuinely fantastic at her job. You film her in the sessions with her couples, but also in her peer review therapy sessions and also with her supervisor. So she, like, discusses these couples in multiple fronts and also the stuff that is going on

other people's relationships. And they do it on TV? Yes, it's mental. It's also fucking fantastic. By the way, I stopped saying mental years ago, but you've said there so many times that now I'm saying it again. Oh, do not blame me for you saying mental. That was, that's mental. No, but we shouldn't be saying it and only you can get away with it. We're not saying it? It's generally not a nice thing to say. But I'm mental. Yeah, yeah, me too, which is why I used to think, I just prefer not to, but it's fine. I'm reclaiming it. You can also say whatever the hell you want. I just, I don't. I'm a mental on me yeah yeah and but all you can say whatever you want point is I saw a word in my vernacular that often and suddenly it's back and I'm like hello but oh my god and this series

they have a polycule and it is one of the worst representations of Pollyamory no but just because like it's so well they're claiming to be sort of free of lots of things and then enacting them in every possible session which is totally human and normal but like it's very interesting that jealousy occupies a lot of the space in their relationship when that is supposed to be the thing that they've liberated themselves from. Not that you can't have jealousy in polyamorous relationships, but rather that their reticence

to acknowledge that that's what's occurring prohibits them from, in my opinion, prohibits them from talking about this. This whole honestly, all of the first three series are amazing. And this series is fantastic. It's so good, Helen, you would absolutely love it because if you like gossip, if you're nosy.

I don't like gossip though. You say that. You are one of the nosy. this woman I know because that's why we're friends. I'm noisy but I don't want to know things. I feel like I find things out late and I'm good with that. Yeah, but this is finding it out late. You don't know them. That's what it's like, it's like the perfect scenario where it's like intel on how

other people's relationships work, but you don't know them and you're not personally affected by it in any meaningful. And so like what you resonate with you resonate with, but also like in lots of ways you're like, oh, this is so cool because it's cool to know other people are dealing with this at the same time. Yes. And the other part of it is like, huh, we are also wildly different. and ha the way we react to what I think it really brings up watching it

you're so passionate I love it I love it so much because you watch it and you're like oh I just cannot watch it and think and I've never really thought this anyway but it's so fascinating to watch like none of us have any self-awareness I am always so struck by anyone who's like personal identity is like being so self-aware it's like no watch these series and you're like none of it so people will be like the therapist would be like can you listen and they were like absolutely and their partner will start to speak in two seconds

and say they're like oh my god it's so good do you want to do couple therapy no I actually really don't I have quite a toxic view which I'm not going to share actually I'm not going to share I just think I have quite like a hard line a ridiculous hard line of like I think you have to been together

quite a while before you do couple's therapy, because otherwise, if you need it already, I'm a bit like, call it. But that's such a toxic view. But if you need it, you bloody need it. Oh, totally. I'm just like, my thing is,

like, if we're together less than a year and you want me to spend money on fixing this rather than just break up. But we've been together for years and years and years. Oh, for us? Obviously for us. I'm going to suggest couples therapy for you. Suggesting it for us.

I'm saying, like, let's get a couple's therapist in and let's get through some of our stuff. I think we do pretty well. I know, but wouldn't it be so fun to blow it wide open. No, because I actually think it would be really unhelp because here's what I think. I think that we have a couple's therapists

and it's the audience. And they write their little they write their little therapist notes on the perverts forum and I don't want to know them. That's, okay, that's an interesting point. I think I think it would be a really interesting episode.

I think I'm just interested in it because I've always, never couple therapy, obviously, because I never had a relationship. but like I did get really into mother daughter therapy. P.S. Also, couples therapy is objectively obviously a really good thing. My view is meant to be like silly

and frivolous and toxic and it is that. But I think it's such a fascinating thing to watch because you're like well the thing that's really interesting and the reason I love listening to Esther Perel is obviously the insight to other people's relationships but also like the amount of times some people are building

the amount of times you watch people go to couples therapy and you're like oh one person's here to get the hell out and one person's here to try to fix it do you know what I mean where it's like oh my God

that isn't that really obvious because you watch the first three series right where it's like oh this woman thinks that they're here to try to fix their marriage

and that man's here to leave her or vice versa it's so fascinating oh that is so and can you tell from like the first episode wait not always

not always but isn't it fascinating it's so thank you M it is just honestly so far and it's really slow and a quiet television show only lesbians like watching it

I don't think only lesbians like watching it yeah because Catherine's by and I'm bisexual too so maybe I'll like it I think everyone I know who's watched it is gay now that you're saying it but it has four series which makes me think that that never goes our way if it's just lesbians are like it it gets cancelled after series

too should I pop senile in front of it and let you know how it goes I actually think it'll be fascinating because I think he would watch it. I think he'd be one of those shows where, you know, where, um... He's scared of feelings, though. Well, yeah, but you know those shows where, like, sometimes you have someone in the house who's like,

oh, no, no, I don't watch those kind of shows. But then they're, like, always in the kitchen when it's on. Yes. You know, those people you're like, oh, that's in the living room. They're always just like, wait, what's time? I'm just all to sit down when I finish my sandwich. I think Sineal would be like, just happen to be there when it's on. Yeah.

It's honestly, it's such an interesting study of people. And also of, like, of therapy. and oh god it's good Did you ever see mother daughter therapy Just to go back to that though It was a television show It was an American TV show And they had on like famous mother daughter duos

But they had on like Wait is this Joan and Melissa Rivers No This is like I think post the rivers Who are we talking So we're talking like Farah Abrams And her mum from teen mom We're talking like a famous woman

Who's like it's usually like Parents who push their kids to be famous Very very young A woman who like encouraging her daughter to like get married like a 90 year old guy when she was 18 like stuff like that and it's like holy crap see i don't know that i could learn that much about myself from that because they're such extremes what i really like about couple's therapy is that it's largely speaking what you think are normal couples anyway like of as not it's just a lot of people just like

going through that like who cleans the bathroom who minds the kid who like you know no one's like getting married to a 90 year old is just like with who cleans the bathroom well Well, what's interesting is, like, that's often a conversation about control. That's often a conversation about care. That's often a conversation about balance. That's often a conversation about gender. But it's, oh, God, it's so good. I know the solution to it, though.

Okay. Okay. So, you say, let's say you, like, you clean the bathroom every two weeks. They clean the bathroom every two weeks. So it's getting cleaned, right? Oh, sorry, no, this isn't a thing I'm struggling with. It's just like, I'm, and it wasn't even specific to the show. I just mean, like, generally speaking, it's like.

But AI. you're going is coming in and there's already self-cleaning toilets right like in Japan and stuff they've got toilets

that clean themselves and then I don't know where it is in the world but I watched a couple of videos about it there's like Portaloo cabins sort of things

like in parks and after each usage they clean the whole thing AI cleans it and a mop goes over the floor the toilet changes and you'd have to wait four minutes in the queue

and just checking you think Seneal's scared of feelings I don't understand how I'm scared of feeling feelings. Because I'm like, you should watch this show about therapy and you're like, I already know the answer to all therapy. I think inherently just mother-daughter therapy is probably more interesting to me and couple

therapy is more interesting to you. Oh no, they're both interesting to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a show on BBC right now called Couples Therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It's so good. I'm going to watch it.

I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it. I think you would love it. Also, I think you'd have hat takes. Hot takes. Hot takes. I don't know. I always feel a bit like.

like on the outs with relationship stuff because it's a bit like, you know, when you're like, I don't really know. But that is what's fascinating, but it's like, you watch it and you're like, nobody really knows.

That's what's honestly so... Ever I watch a couple stuff like that on TV? Yeah. Like, you know, like so many dating shows where they're put together. I'm always like, oh, you are willing to make so many compromises that I would never be able to do

just for the sake of being in a relationship. Yes. Yeah. And I know I'm the other extreme of that, but I'm like, oh my God, it's like the fear. of not having someone is

driving so much of this. That is so right. That is so right. You're watching, in so many instances, you're like, but why? Yeah. Like, why bother? Like, honestly, like, at the point of which you are doing all of this to fix you, like, for what, honestly, the ones who are in there

bending over, like, honestly going through hoops to fix a relationship, I'm like, if I didn't have kids, there's no world in which you'd catch me in this scenario. Like, it's too much work. Yeah. But that is what's fascinating is, like, that, that, spectrum exists within relationships where there's some people where you're like you have to make such small compromises usually it's hard to say but you're like my guy you could make the tiniest effort

and she'd be like this is amazing and like then there's these women like absolutely bending over backwards to be with honestly a lump yeah you're like with like that thumb aside you're on the sofa and you're like what's happening here it's mad isn't it but like I mean love is love I guess but sometimes I'm like it's not love you're just doing this for the sake of like taking that box but so many I wish I had a bit more I wish I had that fear a bit sometimes I'm too nonchalong with it I know what you mean but God it's fascinating it's fascinating watching that so many of the relationships that they're in are playing out the relationships they have with their parents that's fascinating it's also fascinating to watch people the way they perform for a therapist

versus the way they perform to each other that kind of gets unraveled over this like you know a lot of them go in a bit like I think you and I would go into a therapist like trying to be best at therapy yeah and that sort of unravels over the series oh god it's just fascinating and the people who treat it like court like there are people who go in and are like let's be open let's do this together yeah yeah and then there are people who like walk in and are like have basically brought a briefcase that are like ready to win and it's oh god it's such good tell I can't stop talking about sorry I'm obsessed with it okay I need to check it out because I've been rewatching Watery Road recently so I feel like I need to shake up my life a little bit

You deserve better. No, it's so good. Oh, I have a new television for you that you'll show that you'll definitely love. Lotterly Road. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Oh, yeah, I've seen that. Oh, it's on Disney Plus, isn't it? I haven't watched it yet, but apparently it's the bomb.

Oh, I'm in. Okay. You've already seen it. I mean, I've just started it. Okay, fine. But in that case, couples therapy. Anything that arrives in Disney Plus, I'm like always going to be a beat ahead. That's my channel.

Oh, is it? I'm so invested in it. Fair enough. I really respect that that that's so good. I feel like I was going to do like a whole. horror month for October. Okay. Because I watched my first ever Stephen King drama.

Which one? Like, it's called The Outsiders. And, like, I think I've spoken about it on the podcast already. Did I know? I don't think I did. Okay. So I was like, I've never read like horror as a genre. And I was like, oh, maybe I read a Stephen King novel for October, like something.

But then I remember I read choral. Is this coming in October? Yeah. Yes. We're in spooky season? Yeah. Spooksville. Great.

But I read a girl. gave me a book for like my birthday when I was like 10 years old you gave me Coraline and it frightened me so much. Yeah, that's spooky as hell. It's so fucked up. At 10? Yeah, and I couldn't read it because it scared me but it stayed with me. So I was like, maybe I'll watch a Stephen King TV show because I've seen it and stuff.

Yeah. You know, but like clowns and I don't really get it. Please, we're not frightened of our self. Sorry. And even though there's that great bit of modern family where he's like terrified of like Cam dresses up as a clown in the middle of the night and scares Mitchell. love modern family shout out disney plus again they're not listening but I was like let me do a spooky month

and like read like some spooky books and like watch any spooky TV shows and then I got really spooked out too quickly so I had to stop we watched the whole of outsiders but then like me and Sineer were both terrified but both also still frightening each other around the terror so like just sort of like standing in our hallway

and turning off the light and turning it back on again with a different face expression, but we're both nervous. So it's like, what's the point in this? It was just, we're just both getting so nervous that like, can you go to the toilet with me? Like, can you stand here? Like, it was just, we didn't go in the toilet together.

But like, like, really, we just fucking ruined each other. And where we live, like, if you get in the front door, by the time you open your front door from the front door on the street, the lights have gone off. So there's always a moment where you're in pitch darkness. And that's just been awful. Yeah, that's hell. Oh, my God.

So I'm thinking about. You don't need this in a house. You've already been broken. Do you think I should read at least one horror book? Can anyone send in recommendations? I do want to read one. I find books worse.

Horror. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Yeah. You know that moment when it's like Look behind the painting. Yeah, you're not ready for a spooker. Like that fucked me.

I think 1984 is quite a spooky book to be fair. I remember having like quite chilly. Like oh God, I'm a bit scared night. And I was reading it in like 2012. Yeah, yeah. Yes, it's over. It's done. Absolutely.

Those issues still don't make any sense now. But it was scary was the camera quality back then, am I right? May I say that you look ravishing and green? Shut the fuck up. You do, you look really nice in this colour. Sorry, you do. Go on YouTube, she looks gorgeous.

I'll get a noise. Oh, you look really nice and green, sorry. I look like a bogey. Sorry, just on YouTube, we've just surpassed 4,000 subscribers. Oh my God, what? Congratulations, Andrew Catherine and M. Oh my God, congratulations. And Helen? And me, you're always replying to YouTube comments.

You're driving that. Helen and I on YouTube as well, please, you don't mind please please I get such hate on YouTube please subscribe except Ruth who always says such nice things on my comments I think she knows that I get trolled so thanks Ruth is really lovely with the comments we appreciate everyone that writes under anything we post it makes such a difference depending on what they say yeah um one of you doing crypto got a lot of crypto bros yes not of people not enjoying it people are so angry about the bread as well it's like my guys look at the

what do you read the news you're gonna be furious it's just a bit of fun isn't it? It's just a bit of fun. Why do you not like Wardley Road? Why do you have that? I don't know. I don't have any people that I've just never seen it

and stuff from me. Okay. It is incredible and I'd love people to know that I am aware of the casting for the next season, even though it's not announced but I know.

I never know things in advance. I thought it was announced. Everyone knows it's Jason Manfred, right? Uh-uh. The one after that. Oh. The one after that. I presume Sunil's in a base on this.

No. That would be charming. I'm just Sunil in a northern accent. All right. I love the, like, most, like, casting rumors, like, who's the next look to who, who's the next James Bond, who's going to be in the big Marvel, and you're like, I know Waterloo Road. Yeah, absolutely, no one cares. I'm ahead of it. I was like, no one's crammering for that.

That's my big one, guys. What else is going on for you, my love? Any gosh? Oh, my God. Okay, I've got stuff that I'm going to tell you about on the extras. Oh, okay. Spoiler as to what is the vote? Spoiler alert.

A little bit of, you want to keep us guessing. Nutritionist stuff. Oh, my God. Great. Okay, didn't want to ask unless you wanted to talk about it. We'll do it in the extra. I'm 100% want to talk about it. Fantastic.

What else I'm up to? I did a puzzle this weekend and fucking crushed it. Disney princess? I couldn't believe that. Yeah, I couldn't believe there was a Thomas King Cade watercolor Disney princess. I didn't have in my collection. Turns out there was one. Which one was it?

Sleeping Beauty. You were sleeping on sleeping beauty. And it's so fun because they've like, there's slightly like updated range. There's like Easter eggs in the puzzle. So Zazu from Lion King is in it. he's like in a branch what's he doing there just hanging

isn't that fun it's just fun I don't know that I'd like it without any logic part of the Disney universe that doesn't make any sense though well it makes you know

fuck you let me have this it would even make it would even make more sense it was like a forest animal from a different film but it doesn't make any sense to have a jungle animal

oh Catherine please I really liked it oh right okay I don't know I'm feeling a bit lost at the moment actually Andrew me like Andrew asked me the day

what are you working at the moment and I was like yeah most in what sense just like I just don't like just don't quite know what I'm doing right now but is that because you are working on a bunch of scripted stuff that it hasn't

I think it's because I've got about five hypotheticals and I need to and this is like a lot of it's on me I just need to pick like what the next thing's going to be like I haven't picked like when my next show is started I'm doing work in progress isn't really like

I need to film old shows and stuff and like can't decide on the place sometimes and then I'm like oh well I don't want to work on the new show until I've let go of that so I need to like remember that to have that recorded even though it's not true because I learned my first show after two years and then recorded it. I don't know I'm just not like I am it's weird because I'm not really doing anything but I'm busy but with just like faf. it sounds like you are doing things but the things aren't giving you the sense of purpose in the way that you'd like them to be quite yet

because you're having to be patient and that sounds boring yeah and there's like this stuff booked in but like I don't have the dates for it yet and I do love knowing like if I have my dates for this that I know that I can say that okay so then my next deadline's going to be that

because like a lot of comedy you do pick your own deadlines it's just out of your control at the moment it's a little bit out of my control That's uncomfortable. And then I was like, okay, well, it's okay. Well, maybe I'll, like, go on holiday or do something. But I'm still wanting to buy, you know? Yeah.

So, like, that's just right now, I feel like I need to focus on that. Yeah. Because, like, I mean, I will do a full episode talking about this. I did start looking at properties. And within five days, put in, what, six, seven offers, we reckon? Yeah. And maybe of the six or seven, how many would you say we're, like, serious? For the first week?

Probably none. It turns out you can put in an offer for any amount. And they have to present it. So. Helen was like, I'm looking for properties. putting in offers everywhere we were like really what lovely mansion in central london two hundred thousand pounds but i'm chain free please let the seller know that i am chain free and ready to go

that's the thing i was like i okay how much are you no we're both in this situation really aren't we were like mid 30s we're trying to be in a situation where we can buy and you do just have to make tradeoffs like i'm 33 so i don't count that as mid 30s i'd say I'm like around 10. 30s, practically late 20s, practically 18 at that point. Practically 18, I'd say, yeah. Right. Regardless of our age, we're both in this age where we would like to be buying. What are your mid-30s?

It's not regardless of age thing, isn't it? It's just the case of like for you and your mid-30s and me, well, entering my 20s. Yeah. Sure, yeah. Entering your 20s, no doubt. Then I guess I'm early 30s. I'm okay with my age. I guess I just, like.

Yeah, me too. I guess I just, and I can tell you are. And I can really tell that you are. I guess it just meant that we are at that stage where it's like, you do just have to do the boring shit to make that possible or plausible. Yeah. Turns out it's not just not eating avocados because it turns out I found out I'm allergic to avocados. What the fuck?

I'm still have four of the things that I'm testing that they're like with the FodMap thing. But avocados definitely make me sick. Oh my God. Like sick tummy set? Yeah, but they cannot be the only thing because they just don't eat enough of them. I think the four that I'm still trying to rule out are so I'm doing FodMap again. because it wasn't clear are gluten which probably I am even though the test

say I'm not but it just it's making me sick so I don't know what it was on with your test dairy garlic and onion those are the ones we're doing again oh damn I'm really hoping it's not garlic or onion because fuck me I love garlic and onion but and dairy and gluten the whole fucking devastating can be replaced but those two it's like come on although I've made some lovely garlic oil

is it easy to be Irish and allergic to dairy that feels hard it does feel hard and more people in Ireland are allergic to gluten and lots of other places. That makes sense. One of the highest ratios of celiacs is very strange. But like the tests say I'm not, but definitely is. So you can feel it.

Also very sweetly after I said about my joints, people got in touch to be like, you should get your bloods done. I just want to be clear, I have had my bloods done. I continue to have my bloods done. And it's so kind and I don't like when people are too defensive because obviously like I told you my personal life so then if you're worried about me, I appreciate

you. Thank you so much. But I promise I am trying to get it figured out and would like to be not in pain but also I'm fine like I it's been really interesting it's been like my mom has rheumatoid arthritis and I always think that like it's really easy to be like theoretically aware of someone's pain

but like kind of like not really get it it just made me be like gosh she's been if it hurt me that much for like four days with one joint I'm like gosh she must be like constantly just exhausted from it all but she's so chipper and non-complain me a bit

linked to rheumatoid arthritis Yeah so again I don't want to like a guess I promise I'm talking to doctors Yeah yeah yeah it might well be You're talking to me and I'm basically as good as Yes and sure But yeah don't worry I'm on it And thank you for the concern

And but definitely avocados is a no go for me And I still haven't got a house What the fuck? What the fuck? It's you will love looking though Because like you don't have to prove anything To the estate agent I won't be able to look until after April when the tax year's dawn.

There are some lenders that go off just off your last year, apparently. I'll tell you this all off there. I know that, but also I... They don't want them to go off my last year. Do you remember when I changed agents? Oh, yeah, you'd won the year before. Yeah. That was very confusing, isn't it?

It's Trixie being Southam Floyd. But to see you know, you can see anywhere, like, you don't have to show them that you've got any money. I'm not like you. And you can be like, you know what? I want to see that house with a pool and it inside care. I don't think I'm like you. I don't want to see what I don't want to see what I.

I can't have. And they drive you around between the houses. No, I have zero desire. I can drive. Also, that's so funny. I have zero desire to see what I can't have. I only want to see what's possible. You're a fool. But what I am open to, here we go. Is a doer uprobed because my girlfriend is

very good at that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm, I can make sense as well, she does it. You can go on Homs under the hammer. God, this is like an advertisement for BBCI player. I don't want to go on Humber. Oh my God, no, Catherine, you do, you do, you do, you do. I don't. Do they give you money for your house? I'm sure they pay you

for an appearance fee. Fee, let me see. Fee, Andrew, quickly. I don't think I want that. Andrew, Andrew. Andrew. Ending! No, because those people are always like, they always, it's always like they live in a caravan on site for ages. I don't want that. They always...

No, but I'll be buying by then, so then you come and live with Helen whilst you live in your... This is getting worse by the minute. Why? No, I'm a lovely, I'm a really good housemate. Oh, well, my house is being done up. Yes. We keep saying house. It's going to be a one bed flat. I don't know why we... Maybe not with me. Maybe not with me.

keep saying a house house, house, house, house, lol, it won't be a house. I'm getting a five-story house. One con, it is covered and not weighed,

but I'm fine with it. You live among, I'm, I'll live with nature. Oh God. I'll live with nature. We should just move to the Midlands where we can afford it.

No, I know. Litchfield, your favourite place. Litchfield is not a Midlands, is it? Yes, of course, it's so far away. But obviously not Nitchers.

That's still the Midlands. That's the annoying thing of being like, oh, like my life is in London. But I also love London. Yeah me too and also I just I just think like truly in a situation where people are making

in like top 10% of earners and they are often in two income housing or two income houses or like situations it's just absolutely deranged to me that capitalism has gotten to the point where we're like if you work all hours of the day you still can't afford your home like the solution

shouldn't be move cities it should be what the fuck is wrong with the system yeah yeah yeah it's crazy the system is like learning about it like I watched a lot I mean, I'm sure a lot of the listeners know about this stuff, but like, like, watched YouTube videos being like, like, first time by, like, just like, just how does it go?

People are, like, talking through, like, the beats of it. And I was like, that would be really nice, like, for me. I get, like, this is the other thing. I get, like, 20 calls a day from people. And I'm like, do you still want to see this place in Hampstead? And I'm like, no, that was a joke. Like, I don't have three million pounds. Like, this is all, this was, that was just banter.

Because I was curious because I thought maybe it was a famous person's house. And if it is, they've tricked down a lot of pictures. but which you mustn't I'm not encouraging you to waste people's time but they're they have the time on the hands because they're harassing you I hate this when you leave your number with somebody and then they're just like calling up like

we've got this place we've got this place we've got this place yeah constantly I'm not looking forward to that part to be honest with you I don't it is it's not I'm not yeah I'm not the most relaxed to have a bit if I'm honest no it sounds super super super stressful but we are very privileged to be in a situation where it'll even be a consideration we get to make this year

also it might not happen for me. I think it does seem like it's actually happening for you. It probably will take longer from me. I am looking. I am throwing out offers. That's exciting. And I have learned what a mortgage is, but learning, like, the more I learn, the more upsetting with it. Me too. I find that too. So you think, like, you spend all the time saving up for a deposit, right? And you're like, and then I'll borrow. I'll, like, hopefully be able to get a nice amount to borrow and I'll pay it back.

But you pay back, like, three pounds for every pound you borrow. Of course you do. So then what you're paying for, like, a third. 300,000 pound flat is basically just under a million pounds. Yeah, it's absolutely fucking deranged. And then there's like, I've sort of gone through it. I'm trying to figure this all out at the moment, but like, there's like, I mean, I'm sure everyone knew this, but the fees of just like random stuff. Yeah.

Like stamp duty, ever heard of that? Yes. It's nothing to do with stamps. It's just mental. And then there's like a purchase fee, a, like, thing fee. There's something about like, if a building's over 18. meters high and like no one will tell me how tall the building is and I haven't got a tape measure I've got a 10 meter one like it's just apps that I'm at sea like the whole thing is very confusing

and I called my dad to be like can you help me and he was like I'm not fucking buying it's a nightmare out there I'm staying renting and I'm like you're no use wow that's tough it's very tough it's very stressful and it's like it's just not the game that most of our parents are playing because it's so fucked to the moment I know and also the idea that like you um you're going to get it wrong oh god yeah there's the constant sense that while you spend the most money you've ever spent in your entire life or will ever spend your entire life that you're going to be duped somehow because like to be able to get a mortgage like I'd have to have mine like very long term fixed term yeah yeah of course I wouldn't so and I'm basically committed somewhere

you're going to be locked into five years probably at least minimum until like I'm sort of like towards my 40s yeah so I'm looking at it as far as like oh my god like am I going to be happy puzzling here yeah until like 2030 like am I going to feel Also, oh my God, I will say all of this. I cannot be doing with these people. Well, you know, it's actually worse when you do own because then like if anything goes wrong, it's your fault. No. No.

I told you about my friend who did that behalf of his girlfriend. Yeah. Fuck. No, I just, I'm like, get to fuck. If you are lucky enough to own your property, I'm sorry. I know it's stressful. I don't first, but like, just do not turn around to renters who are currently paying the mortgages of multi-millionaires and be like, well, you know, you'll have to fix

the boiler. It'll be my fucking boiler. I'd love to fix it. Please, Jesus, give me the opportunity to save up to fix my boiler. Please, God. Give me the choice to not have a boiler. I'm fine with fire in the living room, heat and water up that way. Like, give me that be an option. Give me that be an option. Helen, aren't you looking at modern bills? Modern, no, not all of them. Okay, but most, you know. I have, Catherine, I cannot tell you. I have looked at every, thing. I literally had to stop myself booking a viewing for a houseboat because I was curious. So I was like, hell of no. You are way too tall for that. And also, I know, but it is the only one in which you'd have a fire in the living room. But honestly,

none of the, on the floor, no. Okay. Um, yeah, I just think like, fuck off. I don't, I can't be doing with it. I'm sorry, but it's just like get to fuck. It's like, yeah. Yes, it's stressful, but also like you own your home. So give me a break. Right. And also, if you own, you can do anything. You know, that you can get, um, you know, toilet lids. Yes. Yeah. like there's so many good ones out there and no one in rental accommodation has a fun toilet lid you actually can change it in the rental toilet in fleet where I grew up we had a see-through

toilet lid with pink flowers in it nice. I loved it. You can get really nice ones loved it. You can get a lot and I'm sure you will but also it's like yeah you can't fucking paint your walls and oh I can't. Anyway would you like a more positive distraction to get you off the anger of

the housing market? I'm not angry on thriving. I've got a lovely problem and a lovely update to lovely coffee. Yay! Our first update is from Glenys. Hi, Glenys. Who, email. Do they want full name? Glennis.

Yeah, I think, yeah, Glennis is the email. I think I've said the full name before. They were going through cancer treatment and they were sending us lovely updates. And I even love your update that as of today, they are cancer-free. Oh, my God. Yay! Ring the bell! Ring my bell.

Yeah, it's so cool. That's really amazing, Glenys. Congratulations. I'm so happy for you. They said, laughing at the podcast, got some strange looks during. during hospital treatment. They're just laughing, but they loved it.

And Glennis says she'll see you in Liverpool on the 29th September, Catherine. Yeah, I'm going to Liverpool this weekend. Oh my God, that's so much. It might be last weekend by the time this comes out. Last week.

Because last week I will have had Swindon, Portsmouth, Dublin, Liverpool on the one week. That is honestly such happy news and I'm so pleased to hear. Congratulations, Glenys. Well done.

That is an arduous, arduous, arduous thing to recover from. So well done. Liverpool. Yeah. They have Phil. And then we have a problem which is not filled with woe.

Let's do it, but we'll do it in scouse accents. For him, bring on the problem, man. No. No, I want to do it in the scouse. No. You've introduced woe into the equation. Woe?

Woe. It's full of woe. No. It's not. It's got no woe in it. No. Is it just a regular problem? You're actually much better

at this accent than your Irish accent. I say maybe because it's not mine. Let's go, Andrew. This is from Tee. Hi, T. Oh, God. I'll stop. Please.

My fiancé. My fiancee and I, they then got engaged in June on the strawberry moon very gay I know what's the strawberry moon sort of pink cute moon is that right yeah yeah okay cute I'm no contact with my mum and don't have much contact with my extended family my fiance however has a huge extended family brackets they will take up 32 spots on our wedding guest list naturally it feels difficult sorry that's so English yeah I'm like aha 30 just 32 fine that goes if you've got zero any amount

100%. 32v0 is a lot, but I'm like, try 74. Yeah. And that's just cousins. Go on. But that is the exact problem is that they struggled with sort of seeing all that love and support, as much as they are grateful for it and also do feel loved. It's hard to not have that support for them. And they share this with their partner who totally got it and asked if they wanted to elope instead.

So they're going to, they're going to elope to Ireland. and the advice they need is where should we get married in Ireland I'm not trying to do the basic cliffs of moha situation too rugged cliffs of where mower no no no I wanted down there I wanted Andrew to give it well moher is fine but mohra is yeah moha it's too rugged I'm not shooting an album cover for montford and sons

we're sweet simple forest wildflower meadow gaze who love frolicing and appreciate the beauty of rivers and babbling brooks we'd love some place with the storybook essence somewhere cozy and charming thanks and love you both P.S.S. Helen, we all knew you were queer. Sleigh babe.

Slay. Sleigh. I honestly don't know the answer to that question and I don't want to pretend to. There are lots of things that come to mind. Wicklow is one, Wexford's one but also so is Galway or honestly like Mayo or Sligo

by the sea might be nice. But my thinking is that there will be it's the best country to be going to when you're looking for that there will be plenty of options there's a person i follow on instagram called the hike life which is this um incredible woman rosanna who she does um she used to be miss universe ireland and she talks a lot about like um eating disorders and hiking and um she's just brilliant and she has a brilliant book about loads of amazing places to eat and walk in ireland um called the hike life and i i know that

isn't what you're looking for you're not looking for a hike but it just is such a a good, her Instagram page is just like a really good place for inspiration of parts of Ireland you might want to go to. And basically any part you could be going to, she'll tell you where to eat and where to walk. Or I can tell you right now. I've just Googled Forrest and Ireland. Oh no, I could name Forrest and Ireland, but I'm not sure that that's, I don't know where you get, when it can elope? But Catherine, there's one called Hazelwood Forrest. There is my question. Yeah, you just take your witness, no? I don't know how you get Married.

It's beautiful. Hazelwood Forests is swans and little like stony cave things. And then Cronwoods. Do not get married at Cronwood. How are we saying that? C-R-O-N-E. Cron words. I'm getting married at the Cronwood.

No, don't do that. Drum Manor. How about Castle? Islands full of castles. No, they don't want a castle. They don't want to cost way too much. They want to elope very like sweetly and in, nature

where's that like mental place like West Cork like down there I don't think that's what they want like skibbery I don't think they want

to go to skull to get married skull yeah no that's where de Blantier was killed that is Sophie Toscon de Plantier how about that I went to that beautiful wedding in the countryside

in the middle in the Midlands but that that was like a wedding venue right yeah I think Irish listeners, please write in and tell us where you would elope in Ireland because these people need our help.

For sure. And honestly, the good thing is, it's Ireland. So there'll be a thousand good options. I just want to steer you correctly. And I'll be home for my Dublin gig, so I'll ask as well. But if I can't be asking my family home, because my mother will be getting an ocean. She'll get so excited. She'd be like suspiciously walking woods in Ireland and the hopes of like wander.

And then she'll ruin your wedding because she'll be like, no, not wrong, wrong gays. Wrong gays. I want this to be the perfect fairy tale like forest. Me too. Like one where they've got like Will of the Whips, like all floating around. I'm also thinking something that you should maybe look into is like something druidy or a little bit like, there's such a lovely heritage that's not so Catholic. Like that's a bit more pagan in Ireland that you could look into in terms of like positioning your queerness in your wedding space might be nice. But we'll find out more on this and well more specifically, not on this actually because we aren't planning your wedding.

Or we could. No, no, no. Let us know. But you flagged for the extras that we're going to talk about food. Oh my God, yes, yes, yes. So let's do that. And we will bring you back more thoughts on this when I've been to Ireland. So let's put a pause on that.

And oh my gosh, more importantly, congratulations. Oh, yeah, congratulations. That's so beautiful. There's, I think Wexford might be interesting. The only reason I say it is you got engaged on this strawberry moon and it's the place where all the Irish strawberries come from. You could get married maybe in a strawberry field or like pick strawberries. on your wedding. That's charming.

So that might be a thought. For now though, congratulations. That's really exciting. And I love that you're escaping and eloping to Ireland. That's so sweet. I'm glad to have to be from a country who queers a lope too. That's very sweet.

Aw. And well done. Glenis, congratulations. And well, you know what? Well done everyone. That was so nice. Congratulations. Congratulations.

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