Trusty Hogs - Ep156. SOPHIE DUKER / Parking, Pubes & Peter Kay

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

We welcome back a brilliant and very early guest, 146 episodes later, it's SOPHIE DUKER! We chat Disney Dogs, birthday reflections, and car parking disputes...FOLLOW SOPHIE: @SophieDukeboxTOUR TICKETS...: www.trustyhogs.com/tourThank you so much for listening!Support us at www.patreon.com/TrustyHogs for exclusive bonus content, merch, and more!Trust us with your own problems and questions... TrustyHogs@gmail.comPlease give us a follow @TrustyHogs on all socialsBe sure to subscribe and rate us (unless you don’t like these little piggies - 5 Stars only!)All links: https://audioalways.lnk.to/trustyhogsSNThank you to our Patreon supporters...EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Guy Goodman / Simon Moores / Annie Tonner / Stefanie Catracchia / Oliver Jago / Anthony Conway / Neil Redmond / Madeline Quinne / Sadie CashmorePRODUCERS: Elle / Richard Bald / Harald van Dijk / Tim & Dom / David Walker / Rachel R / Claire Owen-Jones / Jess & Nick / Sarah & Molly / Raia Fink / Cordelia / Rachel Page / Helen A / Tina Linsey / Graham Marsh / Amy O'Riordan / Abbie Worf / Matt Sims / Luke Bright / Leah / Kate Spencer / Liz Fort / Taz / Anthony / Klo / Becky Fox / Dean Michael / Sophie Chivers / Carey Seuthe / Charley A / KC / Jam Rainbird / Tamsyne Smith-Harding / Hannah J / Ezra Peregrine / BrynWith Helen Bauer (Daddy Look at Me, Live at the Apollo) & Catherine Bohart (Roast Battle, Mock the Week, 8 Out of 10 Cats)FOLLOW HELEN, CATHERINE & ANDREW...@HelenBaBauer@CatherineBohart@StandUpAndrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Catherine, we are the biggest podcast in the world. Whoa, when do they measure that? I don't know. I just decided. Wow, well, welcome to episode 156 of the biggest podcast in the world. It's Trustee Hogs. I'm Catherine Bowhart. I'm Helen Bauer.
Starting point is 00:00:13 And this is a podcast about, frankly, our perfect lives. And then you write in with your problems about your, like, stricty lives. And then we help you. Aren't we good? Benevolence. We're angels. We are. We are.
Starting point is 00:00:25 People say all angels are in heaven. But that can't be true, because we're right here. Hell. Through the fog. Step forth the trusty hogs. Yeah. You're going to give them your problems and they will solve them
Starting point is 00:00:41 or maybe they won't and that's your problem. They'll have guests and Andrew White on the tech. Oh, it's Helen and Catherine as the trusty hogs. Trust the trusty hogs. Hello, episode 156 starts with a pretty important parish announcement, Helen.
Starting point is 00:01:06 What? Yeah. It was sweet, baby boy, Andrew White's birthday. Happy birthday. Andrew White. We hate singing. Happy, here's a gift. Yay!
Starting point is 00:01:21 Oh my God, Andrew, how old are you? Do you know tell the listener? I'm 25. 25? You're still only 25. Do you want to come sit here on Mommy's lap? Come on now. Come on now. Wow. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Why don't you swap seats for a minute? Oh, okay. Bye, everyone. Thank you so much for having me. You're going to sit on... No, it's nice. You can be in the hot spot for a moment to open your gift. Here you go. It's from all of us. I love this gold sheen. Lovely shimmer. This is almost certainly a bag
Starting point is 00:01:49 one of us was given a gift by a hog in it. A hundred percent. That is a gift that a hug gave me and has now been... Not the gift. Not the gift. Not the gift. Not the gift. Not the gift. I think you'll know. from the gift that it was bought specifically for you. Thank you. Should I read the card on camera? No. Well, I mean you can if you want, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Me and M signed our names. What's the gift? The gift is 100 songs every modern theatre nerd should know. For the little gay boy. It's a card game. I do adore this, but I have nobody to play this with. Rees! Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:21 No, Rees doesn't like musical theatre in the same way. He does, but... I have done car shares with Rees, where Rees genuinely started crying. because of your rendition of I know him so well. You're telling me that is not a theatre. You had sex in front of Helen. In the car who was driving.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Wait, is that gay sex? Yes, gay male sex. If you're, what's that word you said that if you're not a top or a bottom but you're like a... A verse? A verse and a chorus. Oh, nice. No, but you had that other word that was like, if you're leaning on something...
Starting point is 00:02:54 A side. Yes. Yes. So if you're aside, you just do a lame page duets. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my, so was I, like, a third? Was I there? Yeah. I think you were more like voyeuristic, like a witness. Oh my God. I cannot wait to talk about this. I know. It's going to be a lot. I wasn't. I wasn't like exactly right. There's two of them. And also, this is a cake themed by it's a curly wery cake. And I thought it was important to stress that we got a cake. We managed to find a cake that had the same theme from an episode on a pot on the podcast. Isn't that impressive? That is very impressive. Thank you. I got your.
Starting point is 00:03:28 a cake but I came for the compliments basically there you go. Andrew what do you think the curly-whirley theme is referring to? The chocolate bar curly-wurly okay because bear in mind because I thought that when I bought the cake and I showed up to see Helen and I was like I managed to get a curly-wurly themed cake how exciting and then Helen said
Starting point is 00:03:45 like pubes and I was like from the podcast and she was like yeah yeah and I was like no like the chocolate bar that people bring us and give you know people because we talked about it on the yeah no I guess Get it now. It's very droll. Why would it be a pub-themed
Starting point is 00:04:03 cake, though? I don't know. I thought it was rogue for Catherine. I'll be honest. It's wild. But now when you open it, you're going to see the decoration on the cake and be like, I kind of do see that. It's trixie. But that can be for lunchtime. For now. Happy birthday, Andrew! Thank you.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Enjoy your game. Enjoy your game alone. You can play solitaire with the cards. How exciting. Andrew, would you like to play the birthday game that we play in my house? Uh, yeah. Okay, great. The birthday game goes like this.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Oh no, I just remembered it's earnest, isn't it? It's so earnest. Go on then, yes, I'll still do it. Andrew. Sorry. I just remembered it's earnest. Have you met yourself?
Starting point is 00:04:39 Your boyfriend cried while you sang some bullshit musicals either. No, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's chess. Be respectful. That's chess is bullshit. Come on. Andrew.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I love it, but it is bullshit. What's going on? Chess the musical. I don't care. It's about the Cold War via the medium of chess. Hell. That's hell.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It's by the Abba, Bjorn and Benny. Christ. Even worse as well. Millionaires shouldn't make art. Rees cried that Andrew was singing, I know him so well. It wasn't the version you're thinking. It was the Peter K cover.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Behavis. Geraldine. Yeah, yeah. With Susan Boyle. And that was fucking. Christ, Christ. Andrew, the question goes like this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:22 In the last year, since your last birthday, best three things. Three highlights, please. Quick as you can. The growth of trusty hogs. That was actually so sweet. It's been a brilliant journey. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Moving in with Rees. Nice. Mad to be second. Yeah, crazy to add that second. You're lucky he doesn't listen. Yeah, you're lucky though, third. Third, I'm very happy with my career. Nice.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Oh, that's really lovely. Thank you. Three things you want to achieve before your next birthday. Oh, that is really tough. move back to London. Nice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I love to have you. I was weird to say out loud. I don't know. Did you not feel it when it, did it not feel true when you said it? No, it does feel, I don't know. Yeah. Sometimes the game's good for that. You go, this thing and then you go, ooh, actually not that thing.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Wow, fascinating. Yeah, I think I do miss London. Okay. I'll leave that to stand for now. Get on TV. Get on TV. Any channel in particular. Any means possible?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Is that the... Any means possible. Okay, great. I got an email from Britain's Got Talent this morning because you know they just sort of email every comedian. Yes. And they like, it was like written by AI. They're like reference my most recent TikTok,
Starting point is 00:06:39 but not in a way that made sense. And then at the end of- Andrew, don't ruin your chances of getting on Britain's Got Talent of your goal for this year to get on TV by any means possible. It's this or a sex tape. So maybe don't dis it. At the end of it, they were like, can we tempt him over from the Isle of White?
Starting point is 00:06:51 Like, what? You've done no research. I'm obsessed with that. um okay great and um and i would like to ride my bike more it's been sl languishing in my garden for a while those are such sweet goals and you my favorite one is riding your bike more i need that's so cute you said 25 did you yes yeah where do you have that's adorable you know ride your bike around london yeah on london around portsmouth while i'm still there it's a very flat city oh it's gorgeous for bike riding
Starting point is 00:07:25 Gosh. Okay, well, Andrew, wait until I tell you what's been going on in my week, because in many ways, this story is a gift to you on your birthday. You've really put me in the mood for it. I didn't know that I'd like definitely reached middle age until this weekend, because I didn't know, specifically what I did not know was that I feel like I have a spot on my road. I park outside my house. The neighbours have gotten a new car, which means instead of having one car, they now have two cars. Bear in mind that they have parked in front of their house and I've parked in front of my house for as long as I've lived there. reasonable I'd say. I think it's pretty soft like it they've got two cars so now they park in front of their eyes and in front of my house okay okay and I didn't know that it was my spot I didn't think of it as my spot but now that it's gone I by the way I love these neighbors they're so nice yeah but the rage they're like boiling hot right I can feel my blood in my body when I talk about it you're not blinking I am so angry about it or
Starting point is 00:08:25 all the time. I'm doing this thing where I'm, I'm like checking to see if they've moved, if they've driven off at any point because the second they do, I'm moving into that spot. Just at the front car and twitching. I'm genuinely,
Starting point is 00:08:37 but I'm not at the front. My husband has the front room, so I have to open the door. I'm opening the door going, still there? Still there? I'm bringing my car key around with me in case I come home one day
Starting point is 00:08:48 and I don't even have to go in in case I miss the chance. I can just whiz up. I'm furious about it. Wow. And I don't, there are no spots, by the way.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It's on. street parking. But I, wow, I can't. There are spots. There are spots, though. I think outside my house is my spot. But apparently it's not. And wow, I, I, I, I, I, like, he's so nice. He's the nicest man in the world. Honestly, the other day, I was like, new car. But underneath it, I was like, get the fucking car out of my spot. Things happen to the nicest people in the world. Tire slashing happens to the nicest people in the world. Who's the nicest man in the world? God, look what happened to his son. Look what happened to his son?
Starting point is 00:09:27 You think he's the nicest man in the world? Well, he's like one of them, isn't it? He's supposed to be. Do you think? I don't think he, no. He's very vengeful. Yeah. Well, he's got a temper.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah, I don't know that he's the nicest guy in the world. Yeah, it was a really bad example, actually. Yeah, crazy choice, but I liked you joining in. Andrew, what would you do if you were me? This is tricky because there is, it's an unwritten law, but it's not, yeah. You get it. I, because I also have street parking, and especially coming home late at night, I'm sure you'll find this.
Starting point is 00:09:55 going to gigs is that everyone, you know, they're in bed by the time you get back. So they've all parked their cars. I have to park three, four streets away sometimes. What? Yeah, it's horrible. Oh, that actually puts it into perspective. I'm just like four doors up and fuming. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:10:10 You could put your bins out in that space. That's what a lot of people do. But that's outrageous. I think that's fine. That has the energy of people who get up at seven to put their tails by the pool and I'm not that person. But you could become her, Catherine. No, I actually feel very strongly that whoever's there, first should get to get the first as in like whoever has come down ready for the day first
Starting point is 00:10:29 gets the fucking sun lounger i don't think you get to book it at seven and then go back to bed till nine 30 you absolute you're aiming this at the germans and i'm fully aware of that why do they do it so english people do it too english people do it too i'm sorry it's out fucking rages i know i know because i went to greece as you know recently and that was full of english people which i wasn't expecting was very annoyed by and they were constantly with the towels. What's that the Irish
Starting point is 00:10:55 fighting for that one spot in the shade isn't it as well? No! I actually love lying in the sun.
Starting point is 00:11:01 The sun hates me but I genuinely love lying in the sun. Ellen was so... You can't think the sun hates you. I mean I get Ellen was surprised by it.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I know. Gorgeous. You're nice to me. But yes, anyway, all that is to say that that's just a rage I'm living with that actually I genuinely
Starting point is 00:11:14 feel better for having talked about it because the four streets away thing, that's crazy. Can I make a fun suggestion? I'll relax. This will not help you relax but Soneil does it
Starting point is 00:11:23 because we've I don't know if I want mental health advice from Sunil. I wouldn't say it's mental health advice, but practical. I was just talking about my mental health when I was talking about the car. Okay. Oh, no. Oh, no. Didn't you hear anything I said?
Starting point is 00:11:35 It's my special spot. I don't like change. I can't stop thinking about that cockatoo I sent you this morning now. Helen sent me the best video this morning ever, probably the video that best sums up our entire friendship. It's a sort of drunk cockatoo wandering along being like, off to meet my friend to help her with a mental crisis, even though I'm obviously having a mental breakdown myself.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And it's his comedy. I know the cockatoo. And truly nothing has ever something of our friendship. It's just two women are having me like, you will, you good? Yeah. Hi, how are you?
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'm fine. What's up with you? Bown, bough. I'm not going to tell you what Sonell does then. I feel like that. No, tell me. Well, he watches the space, even though he's not there,
Starting point is 00:12:15 on his ring camera. Oh, God. So he's got a ring camera that obviously faces out. And then he can watch the neighbors and who parks where. That's psychotic. So then he knows exactly who's taking it
Starting point is 00:12:26 at different points. I know exactly who's taking it. It's the loveliest people on Earth, which is why I can't do anything about it. Yeah, I'm neither. And there's nothing to do. Devils. Oh, really, we got very lucky with one side.
Starting point is 00:12:35 One side. And I mean that. And you'll never know which. And I mean that. And you'll never know which. They're the loveliest people on Earth. God damn it. My dad had a ring camera.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Well, colonoscopy. But, come on. Come on. Again, did you say 25? Can I ask you something, though? Yes. Because I know the car has obviously overshadowed everything. And obviously this is a tricky time of the year for every performer because it's around
Starting point is 00:13:06 this time we find out that once again we have not been booked for Panto. Are you okay? I'm all right. I'm all right. Are you okay? No, not really. Okay, well. I don't know that my hopes were resting on it in the way that yours seemed to have been.
Starting point is 00:13:18 All I needed. Right. Okay. Wow. Wow. Oh, wow. I'm not talking about the princess or the prince. Just a genie.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Just a genie. You'd be a perfect genie. Just something fun. We should stage your own panto. I don't want to do that. Oh. The hope in your eyes. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I had to kill it fast because I was like, if I even kind of entertain this, it'll become a thing. By the way, we haven't even talked about the fact that this week is Clapham Grand for Trustee Hogs. Oh my God. And I still can't believe how many people have bought tickets. Thank you all so much.
Starting point is 00:13:46 If you're a person who's bought a ticket to Clapham Grant, thank you, thank you. Wow. We're so looking forward to it. We're going to have the best night of our lives. And I can't believe James A. Caster has agreed to do it. Pokemon, baby. Honestly, baffling.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Did you trick him into thinking he's getting something? I don't think I've got anything for him. But you lied to him? I think he just feels loyalty to the Pokemon group. That's kind. And also, it brings all of us in the Pokemon community great joy to watch you get slowly more and more stressed. Does that I'm going to have to talk about Pokemon on Wednesday? Exclusively.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Oh, for fucks sake. Exclusively. But you have to tell me. He's a big enough draw. We got to do it. You have, yes, Clap and Grand's a big show this week. But last week, Catherine Mary, Joseph Bohart did a big show of your own. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It was so exciting. Well, it was so interesting because I think I maybe over-egged Bloomsbury Theatre in my head. I was so excited for it. Yeah. That I think that I forgot that at the minute with shows, I don't know if you know this, but with like live shows, no shows are pretty like the most of you've ever had at shows. More and more I noticed, like, even though my shows are sold out, people, and I've spoken to other people
Starting point is 00:14:52 and it's the same thing, which is like, there are more no shows post-COVID. I think because people are more reticent to go to things if they have like a niggly throat or like, but also very sweetly, this show sold out ages ago and I think people probably been planted in January and then were like, oh should I actually have to do something? So I came out being
Starting point is 00:15:08 like, whew! And then I was like, obviously my OCD brain was like, there are 17 empty seats and they're the only seeds I can see. So I over-eged it. Also, Andrew opened for me and killed it. But it was really good. It was just I think maybe this is too honest
Starting point is 00:15:24 I had the most amazing time and maybe I shouldn't say this but I you know don't sell out a lot of 500 seaters yet and I'm getting used to them but they are a totally different skill like they just are to a hundred seater and I you know
Starting point is 00:15:37 you can only do those things when you get to do them but by virtue of it taking time you've never done them before so yeah it was just nervous in a way that I haven't been in ages but the thing is I get not I didn't I've only done one big show like that
Starting point is 00:15:50 and granted it was shared with Olga Cock at Earth. I think like the sound travels differently as well as there's more people and also like I mean my tour shows are about 100 people and it's very intimate so the show has a more like
Starting point is 00:16:06 confessional intimate thing whereas you lose that vibe. Listen it still it was beautifully it was so good and it did still feel intimate because of the light of the room I just it's just a different beast and I'm yeah I'm used to like 200 250 and I guess it just feels a bit more pressurizing and a bit scarier but I really enjoyed it and I think I did the show to the best of my ability on the night and do she crush she crush
Starting point is 00:16:29 she was crushing she was crushing he's nice um but he did also leave so he doesn't really know um he lives on the coast I told him to I told him to during the opening she crushed and I 100% believe and people did tell me because I had friends in the crowd you're sweet Andrew I remember you doing lester square for the first time I was there which was at At that point, the biggest room. Yes, it's true. And you were very nervous. And granted, I didn't, you let me do your walk on, which you regretted.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah, it didn't help. But, um, I can't hear you. It was just a bit of fun, wasn't it? Catherine. She fired me on stage. Immediately. And I don't regret it. But, um, like, you were nervous and then you rose to it and then you loved it.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And then instead of like having to play that one again, you went up a room size again. And like, I know that like, O2 is calling all the time being. like, can you do trusty hogs here? Can you do a solo show there? I just want to get used to the lack of intimacy, the O2, relax. Also, they will not let you perform on the ice of Disney on ice. And until that, why am I playing the O-T? What's the point? What's the point?
Starting point is 00:17:31 I completely agree with you. I can really, no, listen, it was so amazing. I just, um, it's, it's an, it's an exciting thing. I think it's just we're sort of, um, I think this is always true of comedy. I guess maybe it's true of all jobs, but like the second you can swim in whatever depth of order you're in, and sorry to bring up swimming. because I know that's a trigger for us. I'm not even going to look at you.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Well done you. But then it can quite quickly, they're like, okay, great, into deeper orders. And you're like, huh? I just got so, I just barely got comfortable. Can I do? So it was amazing and scary and I had a nice time in TA too. I don't know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I remember someone saying, I can't remember who it was. You know, when you're like new and you get passed at the clubs to do middle spots. Like you've done the open spots. You're in the club. You're getting paid. You're doing middle spots.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And obviously, when you're middling, it's really excited because you're getting paid for the first. first time but usually you've also still got a day job and when you're middling it's very hard to do double ups to do two gigs you only earn the middle fee which is not the highest fee of the night because it's also the easiest spot and you sort of go like oh I kind of wish I was doubling up or I wish I could so I want to quit my day job I want to do more but then someone was like you only get to middle for five minutes for a very short amount of time like if you're lucky right and then you're on to
Starting point is 00:18:45 opening which is so much harder and the middle spot is is the only time where you can really play around with your set, figure out different 20s. Wasted on us. It's like how I realise now, I'm like, oh my God, you should get to be a baby as an adult. They should be like, do you know? Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Hear me out. That was such a job. Hear me out. No, hear me out because you don't, it's wasted. It's wait. Youth is wasted on the young. In the same way that like the middle spots wasted on people who want to actually progress in their career. What you want is people who are tired.
Starting point is 00:19:16 People have had too much pressure. People who just wanted it. play that you want to you want to put your pros in the middle spot that would be excited they don't not be changed no I don't my nappy change per se but what I would love no I don't but what I would like is like can you imagine coming in from work one day and just someone being like hey you it's time for bed your dinner is on the table and I've already drawn you a bath come on soon it'll be 715 come on in you get in you get do you want some toys do you want a story you want some toys that's like wasted on babies wasted oh my god I feel really
Starting point is 00:19:48 emotional. Can you imagine? Can you ask me again if I want, if it's time for bed? It's time for bed. Come on. It's almost 7.30. Do you need me to brush your teeth? Yeah. Do you need. Yes. I want you to brush me. Yeah. I do think that's wasting on baby baby drink into bed with me. Exactly. Exactly. In a bottle. And then I put you into bed and then I say, Helen, I'm going to come back in and check in half an hour and you better be asleep. You're going to powder baby Helen's bottom. Of course. But also it's just like, imagine someone being like, you better get yourself to bed. I've run you a bat. Oh. With that like, I'm with like, baby um what's it called like the johnson's baby like bath wine and a little a little mobile over your head and somebody just like rub your ears while you're going to say heaven i don't know something
Starting point is 00:20:29 gentle like they did like a spaniel yeah i'm just like oh my god heaven i just feel like i can't remember the last time i didn't come in and when i was absolutely exhausted and sort of sit for too long in my coat sort of staring staring and then i got too tired to take off my makeup and then i'm too tired to brush my teeth and then i wait up another hour just to get up the energy to do those things and then I wish I'd done them an hour and a half ago, so now I'm in a cycle. Maybe I'll watch some television while I think about this. Is I'm hungry? It's been ages since dinner.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Then I'm suddenly eating crisps and it's midnight and I'm thinking, fuck, I wish someone would just pop me to bed. What crisps are you having before bread? Sometimes ready salted. Sometimes ready salted. Yeah. Also, I've started to do this thing, the equivalent, the only way of like babying myself is that I have started at tour shows to bring my makeup remover.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Have I said this to you before? I bring it all with me. I find it inspirational. I do my skincare before I get into the car, so when I get at home at least, I can just get into bed. Because honestly, I will sit for an hour and a half if I have a five-minute job to do
Starting point is 00:21:22 because I'm so tired. I'm proud of you. Thank you. But I also feel like you have an option to be baby. You have a girlfriend. What's the point in being a relationship as someone's not going to run you a bar?
Starting point is 00:21:33 I think that you forget the dynamics form pretty quickly and I don't know. I just sort of had this insistence that she'd treat me like an adult and find me sexy. Oh, no, I'm not going to say that. Oh my God. Did you just edit yourself?
Starting point is 00:21:46 I sent him myself. Is that the first time? Helen! Oh my God, everyone, thank you. Oh my God. Oh, my God, you're such an adult. That was crazy. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And I would have got on a whole riff about Tullus and tiaras. I know, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I would have been sexualizing babies so fast. I know.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I didn't. I didn't. No, you did. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. I'm proud of you. Helen, that's gross. I'm now five.
Starting point is 00:22:10 That was beautiful. Thank you. Oh, my God. Are you five? A mature five. No. It feels like we're circling back to the same wrong territory. I nearly bought baby bath stuff, though.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yesterday, me and Francis were doing like, you know, when you're just like pottering about. Yeah. Just having a potter. We had lunch, tea and cake. Charming on a Sunday afternoon. I went rogue, coconut and raspberry loaf. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:35 Was it good? And, oh my God, it had a flapjack crumble consistency. No, that's a no from me, but that's fascinating. I understand that. but I'd beg of you to try it I can find a gluten-free option It was somewhere called Megans Oh my God, I figured out my allergies, sidebar
Starting point is 00:22:52 What, they should have been headline news Oh my God, yes, sorry Parish announcement number two Parish announcement number two Catherine is allergic to Onion Devastating But there's a method for reintroduction
Starting point is 00:23:04 I'm doing loads of stuff with my stomach And I actually spoke to a nutritionist Because she was a dietitian, a dietitian Who literally runs my run club And was like, I'll help you and I was like, oh my God. I'm obsessed that we're both on the nutrition train. She's more, she's genuinely like a dietitian from the public health sector in Australia,
Starting point is 00:23:22 but she is when I runs a beauty company. Anyway, she's amazing. And then she gave me lots of great stuff. And also, I'm not like, I don't want to do any of the emotional work. I'm just like, medicate me, bitch, which she is. And then, um, so onion, avocado. Not all gluten. It's basically gluten in excess.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Like if I, I'm basically like in a situation where I can eat sourdough bread. but I can't eat like most breads. Okay. And if I have a slice of bread, I'm fine, but if I have a pizza, I'm fucked. But you could have a crumpet. Exactly. And what is interesting is it also is to do with stress.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And the other thing, and this one's that I think arguably the most difficult, tannins in red wine. I know. And I actually, the nice thing is the dietitian was like, oh, okay, so you can just literally make decisions. She was like, if most of the time we don't have those things, which is relatively easy
Starting point is 00:24:14 because I don't drink wine at breakfast anymore. You have an onion bargy every day at a letter every. It's that I'm complaining. My onion baggie
Starting point is 00:24:23 and red wine breakfast. No. Oh, that actually does sound delicious and I'm obviously now going to crave that with a side of avocado. When you love it, I'm just had to come
Starting point is 00:24:31 into frame my holding on an onion bargey. Not to day, haven't you just heard? But yes, but all of that is to say that you can make decisions about it which is to say like sometimes it's worth the trade-off
Starting point is 00:24:41 and sometimes it's not. And if I'm extremely be anxious it's not the time to do it and also you can reintroduce it slowly and she's just and she's given me lots of stuff for bloating and it's just really nice and I feel much calmer now around food because what I had gotten to was a stage of real fear around food
Starting point is 00:24:55 yeah yeah yeah and now I feel a bit more relaxed which is nice this is great yeah I was just basically scared of eating anything because I was like what's this going to do and that's how I'm going to feel what's a reaction and also like then sort of depriving myself to the point of then I would just binge because I would be like fuck it out I had figured out at all
Starting point is 00:25:11 all of which is a day was in a bad cycle and I feel much Cameron now that's nice good for you but wait we were talking about something before this
Starting point is 00:25:17 me and Francis having a potter around and my question was what cake did Francis get carrot yum I love carrot
Starting point is 00:25:25 I love that we got back there cream cheese icing yes yeah it was just any orange
Starting point is 00:25:31 I don't think I had one bite of Francis no that's fine but it was just very wholesome last week I made carrot cake
Starting point is 00:25:37 protein baked oats and ate like a granola No, you cook them in the oven It's like oats and Then you make an icing with I know this sounds terrible but it's really good
Starting point is 00:25:50 Silk and tofu and vanilla protein powder Oh my God Okay, I'm not yeah It's genuinely delicious I'm sure it's immense It's delicious but it's also like A really high protein breakfast Like your two eggs
Starting point is 00:26:02 Thank you But also my favorite thing about it is It's just made every day I don't have to go back and make it again How does tofu become an icing? Basically if you mix it with water and vanilla protein powder it becomes like a really smooth like it tastes like cream cheese yeah it's delicious put a little
Starting point is 00:26:17 maple syrup it's amazing what like how who found that out it makes a really good chocolate moose yeah i believe that this we're living in such an insane time aren't we yeah it's incredible oh i did some cooking last week what you make a spaghetti bolognese but like i went like the full thing yum what are we talking like i cooked the carrot and celery in bacon grease that i got from bacon like oh my god wow i made the most indulgence the gate bono days and because you know senile banned me from having pasta at lunchtime i that's okay talk me through that um so you know how i decided i'm not getting depression this winter yeah yeah you were very firm on that so if i have pasta i have pastor at lunchtime you get the symptoms of depression
Starting point is 00:27:02 i have to i have to lie down and sleep off i actually really get that i had to ban myself from watching television first thing or even at lunch time, I had to have an after 6pm rule because similarly I would sit down at lunch. I'd just do one episode of maths with my lunch and then obviously just have a little light in and then it's like 5.30 and I'm like, ah! So then you get depressed. Yeah, exactly. So I was like, okay, because I, so I have pasta for lunch. I try and have a coffee and then I fall asleep drinking the coffee. And then I wake up really sad because I'm like, oh, I did nothing today. And he's like, you ain't a pasta bake. Yeah, you've got to stop doing it. Like a family home pride, pasta bake. You can't do that anymore. I can see the issue. Yeah. So I made spaghetti
Starting point is 00:27:46 Bolandes and he was like, only for dinner. Fairly. I think that's good to have like some solidarity in the house. I think it's good. I think it's good. But also, I got depression immediately after I said I wasn't going to get depression. It was awful, Catherine. Helen, you were very clear. You're not getting this year. I know. I was manifesting not getting depression this winter. It's been, if anyone who's not in the UK, it is great. It has been raining for like two. It has been raining for like two week smell. It's just been grim. I even went out on a walk one day. In this weather? Uh-huh. I've been running in this weather
Starting point is 00:28:13 and I'm really not enjoying it. It's sleek. I also it's such stressful weather because it's like it's still warm enough that if you layer up at all you're going to be absolutely sweaty. Oh, if you wear a raincoat, you're going to fucking make a swamp in your teeth. Yeah. And then okay, that's not quite what I was saying, but yeah. Me neither. Me neither. I don't do that because that's for like other people. Yeah, gross mingers. Well, no, genuinely I just don't have any boobs. So
Starting point is 00:28:34 where would the swamp be? But I guess, um, it's more like I find like, I'm like, what am I wearing? And then also the idea of bracing yourself for going into it. I keep having to have a word with myself and being like, you're not rich. Like you cannot get in an Uber just because it's raining because that's going to be raining for the next six months. But it's really, really disappointing. It's overwhelming, isn't it? It's so overwhelming. It turns out I didn't have depression though. I still my period the next day, so that was fine. Oh, fine. So you don't have depression? No, but I really believed it for like eight hours. I was like, it's happened. Do you have a period tracking out?
Starting point is 00:29:05 It's happened. I do. I just never look at it. Okay. But yeah, it started my period and I was out of town and so I messaged him being like, oh, it's okay. I wasn't depressed yesterday. I started my period and he went, don't come home until you finished your period. And I was like, this is really healthy. This is really healthy.
Starting point is 00:29:22 But I did and then I got drunk. I went to a hotel bar and had vodka martini's. Wait, what? I'm on Saturday night. I don't know what happened to me. And then went home, took out a tampon, forgot to put one in, woke up. Absolutely fucking. Carnage.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah. A bloody hand as well must have gone for a wank in the sleep. Absolutely nightmare. Do you ever do that where you like start tugging yourself off like in the middle of the night for no reason? Just say tugging yourself off. Tugging yourself off. We're not tugging. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Like Robin. Hello? But, um, yeah. Should we leave it there? Should we introduce our guest? Have we ever introduced a guest on a tone that was ever nice and welcoming and not just horrifying in a way for me to get out of the podcast? We did once and then we referenced that it was nice and Helen said something horrible. Yeah, that fits.
Starting point is 00:30:04 That checks out. Also a woman's body's horrible. What a fucking thing to say. Your woman's body is horrible and the way you speak about it is even worse. Okay, please welcome for the podcast. It's the tremendous Sophie Juker. Sophie Juker.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Welcome. You look beautiful if you're listening and you can't see. Sophie looks beautiful. Believe it. Believe it. Believe it. Believe it. I already grabbed at Sophie's thigh.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Oh wow, I didn't notice and now I feel like Do you not notice? Don't, I thought you know I grabbed your clothing because there's like handles on it Oh yeah No my clothing has handles
Starting point is 00:30:46 And you like ran me like I was a little teapot I just wanted to see if I could like hold on Wait this skirt has handles It's not I don't know there Okay I'm standing up Yeah let's see it let's sort of put like Oh yeah sexy handles That's so nice
Starting point is 00:30:58 And you want a grabby Yeah but you shouldn't You know that you mustn't You mustn't you have And you've been very I sort of did Yeah but he doesn't even remember so that's fine i don't remember it it's i'm just a judge that makes it okay right
Starting point is 00:31:10 oh my god oh hi you are you are mid-soho run yes how the hell's it going oh my god it's so fun it is so fun i always dread the start of something new so even though i'm like technically this is a good thing we live in too excited a time yeah yeah what about a little bit of dread yeah and people always like refer to the thing you'll do they're like oh are you excited about this thing that you poured loads of time and energy and money into it. We're like, yes. I guess. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:31:40 But then you get there and it's okay. Well, I think that's a better way to live because if you're like dreading and anxious in the run-up to anything good, then you're pleasantly surprised with the good things good. If you're excited, if you're hopeful, those people can only be crushed. Yeah, you can only be let down. But you've never let anyone down. This is true.
Starting point is 00:31:57 This has been documented. I've never disappointed anyone. I remember going to see your first shot. My ex is love me. Yep. You're fucking amazing. All shows are always really good. You're a fucking legend.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And also, like, you belong in Soho. I'm sorry, you've got to bury Soho. You're wearing a beret right now. I do have a beret on. The whole outfit is like, I guess I live in East London, but my heart's in Soho. Yeah. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I feel like Soho really tries to be like that girl. Like that girl and you're like, how about I'm this girl and we meet each other in town? Soho was charming. I walked through it for the first time at night, for the first time in ages. You're meaning the whole area, not the theatre. and like just like people in these nice restaurants like laughing it like really felt very like
Starting point is 00:32:40 knotting hell sorry that is the story of all comedians it's like oh yeah I love that place I've I've witnessed other people have a good time there on Saturday night because it's just honestly I was in a green room in comedy store one Friday night and somebody asked the question which you must never ask a green room full of comedians on a Friday night what do you think other people do on a Friday night oh wow and it was everyone just being like I guess they, like, get dinner and go out with their friends. I guess maybe someone see a theater show. And it was dark.
Starting point is 00:33:15 It was honestly like a bunch of, like, kids at the window of a restaurant. Do they disco? I think people disco. I think when I see people, when I leave a gig, I assume they've been roaming the streets all night, like, fellow games. So I have like this weird.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I'm like, why are they so excited? Because I'm just like, they're out. I'm just like, okay. I'm going to play a game with both of you. I want both of you to describe. to me, your perfect Friday evening. And this, without even having guilt of I should be gigging or like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:33:40 this is a good night to earn. Like, nothing, that doesn't exist. Comedy doesn't exist. What is the perfect Friday night? Sophie Duke will be coming to you first. The perfect Friday. Do I have a job? You can have, you can have a job.
Starting point is 00:33:53 You can have a job at like five. I finished my job at five. Whoa. Okay. Yeah. And they had one of those charlies where you had one drink before you left. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Good. Yeah. Okay. I walk out of my job into the street. I immediately get in a taxi to the airport. A black cab? Okay, don't make it very short. Just a taxi.
Starting point is 00:34:18 That's on me. Driven by a normal. That's on me. That's on me. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I don't care who's driving the cab. That's not part of my fantasy.
Starting point is 00:34:29 As long as there's not a woman. We don't mind. It's got to be a man in the cab. I hail the cab. I don't have to use an app. I'm not looking at my phone because I'm so free. Oh, sweat. I get in the cab.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Maybe it's been booked for me. Wow. I get in the cab. Where's it going to London City Airport? Gorgeous. London City. The easiest of all airports to navigate. Gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Where am I flying? Wow. Where? The south of France. Oh. Yeah. Bonjour, bonso. Bonjour, bonjour.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I've got a little like, I'm going for like a weekend trip. What? Oh, I can't. My life. No. It's a fantasy evening, Catherine. We'll come to yours in a moment. But your whole evening's travel?
Starting point is 00:35:06 It's not going to take that long, is it? I think maybe Sophie maybe goes to bed a little bit later than both the months. That's true. Because you're thinking on the end of the night, I'm going to assume 9pm. And my babe, Sophie is definitely out and about
Starting point is 00:35:20 a bit more of a scene star, okay? We will come, no one's judging, but we'll come to your perfect night in a minute. I've already decided mine and you're so right. I know, you teared up last week about wanting, oh no, earlier today. Sorry, start again. you teared up at the beginning of this episode,
Starting point is 00:35:35 the idea of someone drawing a bath and saying it's bedtime. Yeah, that's my dream. So we're in, we're in, Marseille. Marseille is where we are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fly to Marseille. Have a little, go to a little car,
Starting point is 00:35:48 have a little appro, a little wine. A car? Wow. Wait? Cafe. Oh, a cafe. Yeah. Did I say I got in another car? I love to travel.
Starting point is 00:35:57 The whole thing's different modes of transport. Oh, the cafes that have the, they like, have the wine and little glasses. Yeah. I prefer that so much to a wine glass. Yeah, I feel like a stem is intimidating. Just a little, it's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Yeah. Yeah, good for you. And I'm just drinking wine. I can see the sea. Maybe I go to a nighttime party, a discotheque. Whoa. The famous. Do you still have your suitcase?
Starting point is 00:36:21 Where are you putting it? How do you checked it? It's just a berry. It's just a berry. Wow. Okay. Yeah, I think I just, I think I just go away. I think I could get into this if.
Starting point is 00:36:29 The reason you haven't had to bring anything is because you already own a place in Marseille. And you go. go there of the weekend a lot. So when you get there, your bits lower to be in the wardrobe. Oh, yeah, that would be perfect. Oh, okay, I'm in for that. This is really gorgeous, Sophie. Thank you so much. I hope you have the best
Starting point is 00:36:43 night ever. Thank you. I well. Should we hear the cool, the cool girls version of? Well, now, honestly, my my Friday night is, I follow Sophie Juker. She hails us a cab. We're going... We're going to be... I will not...
Starting point is 00:37:00 Irish cab. You're an Irish cab? Just a jack. No, obviously what my actual answer is, is I go home from work. I take off my bra, my shoes, my socks. I put on, honestly, crocs. On your best night? My Friday night. Fairlight? I've got, no, I've got like crocs that I have so many jewels on.
Starting point is 00:37:23 They've all been thoughtfully bought for me by friends, question mark. Now, the most important thing is that I go, honestly, 250 meters tops. to my local restaurant. They take me to my table that is always my table. They bring me my cocktail. That is always my cocktail. Where's the table? What's the cocktail?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Table is not near the door. Towards the back. Thank you so much. And I'm facing into the restaurant. Thank you so much. Not away. I don't look at a wall. My girlfriend can meet me there.
Starting point is 00:37:54 How exciting. They bring us our cocktails that are our cocktails. They bring us the menu, but we already know what we're going to want. But they're polite. They let us have that. They bring us free. And I do mean this, free bread.
Starting point is 00:38:03 and then we order the same thing we always order at having being like maybe we could but we won't and then I go home and have a bath and then we watch a movie oh Catherine do you fall asleep during the film because the baths made you a bit tired probably
Starting point is 00:38:16 but at the end I go that was great it's so good what happened so good so good so good and then the next morning because I'm so rested I can get up at like eight and go for a long run in the park
Starting point is 00:38:29 we're so fun I feel like I should have come to Catherine first I know obviously that one sounds better no your one sounds glorious but I don't know a place in Marseille neither do I but Saturday night would be my big night and I have to say of the two
Starting point is 00:38:46 if I'm working out of nine to five oh no the worst people go out on Saturday night Hello Bonjour I am the worst people Wait wait why did the worst people go out on Saturday night Because it's the night
Starting point is 00:38:58 It's the night whenever I'm so sorry I'm such a wanker It's the night that everyone's out, so everything's more expensive. Right, right, right, right. Like, everyone's out. Everyone's just running around. I should say going out to me is like, best case scenario, going to a friend's house for a house party or dinner party.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Okay, fun. And if you're going out, on a Saturday, you can't really go to TGI Fridays. And if you're going out, why are you not going to TGI Friday? I do agree. And, oh, the one in Stratford, where they have that car outside that you can sit in and eat your food at? I've not been to that one.
Starting point is 00:39:23 You can sit at the car. I think it's open every night of the week. Yeah, but it feels good. It doesn't make sense. What are you talking about? Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I love T.J. Friday so much. And it turns out so does Charlie Clive, which we find out early in our relationship. So we call it the club. It's the club. Tell you what restaurant I've been absolutely charmed by. Go on. I don't know if they exist anymore. Vapiano. Yes. Oh, my. Vapiano exists. They exist. But like, I have not seen them around loads recently. There's one in solo.
Starting point is 00:39:54 St. Giles Square. Thank you. Thank you. The place was the way she did that. Did you see that? I wasn't, were you googling that before? I was three steps ahead and I could see Helen going, where? I do have a question, though. I've actually never been inside of that pianos. What's the vibe?
Starting point is 00:40:09 You would lose every ounce of cum in your body. You would lose it. It's incredible. It's like Italian, right? More than Italian. It's Italian mixed with your school canteen. Say more. So you go in, pick your pasta, pick your sauce.
Starting point is 00:40:26 What do you want in there? Like, what do you want cheese wise? and you sort of stand there while they make it all fresh and then put it on a plate. I have to say I like table service. Well, we will not be going to papillanos. But you can also do your own pizza and stuff. I don't know you can do your own pizza.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Uh-huh. The one outside of Disneyland Paris, you can do your own pizza in. That feels like a long way to go. That would be my dream night. Just for the fireworks. Just for the fireworks. Little bathies and then watching the, uh,
Starting point is 00:41:00 watching the fireworks with Goofy. And then, don't she die. Oh my God, with Goofy. Like, I'm already emotional. He's a single dad. Like, we're, he is a single dad.
Starting point is 00:41:11 He is. I get on my knees. I'll give him a notch. He's a dog. He's a dog. No, if Goof. Oh, sorry, Catherine. Sorry, Catherine.
Starting point is 00:41:21 What do we talk about? Okay. We don't raise their hands or scream at the, at the, moderating emotions. At the guess. Thank you. Yeah. If Goofy is a dog
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah What the fuck is Pluto Ooh Okay Because Goofy's walking He's talking He's chatting He's got kids
Starting point is 00:41:39 He's got his own film Pluto A dog Can't speak Okay Owned by Mickey Goofy has agency Goofy owns property
Starting point is 00:41:49 Goofy has a car I can't believe I'm saying this But she's got a point But Mickey Is Mickey not a mouse Okay Sophie's hands are also slightly raised
Starting point is 00:41:58 No, I think it's new thing. I think is Mickey a mouse? A mouse with more than a billion dollars. Oh, Sophie has kind of got you there though. Yeah. Mickey and Minnie are a mouse and they own the company. But then surely Goofy can be a dog. It's not okay.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Why is Mickey involved right now? Because if he's a mouse, an animal with agency, then surely Goofy can be a dog and animal with agency. Yeah, but then there's two dogs in that world and one can't talk and has agency and one does. It's like you've never heard of social stratification, Helen. So, for, I haven't. I think you just need to back the fact that you would gnotch off a talking dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yeah, I'll back 100% about that. That was ever a question. Okay. Oh my, immediately. Okay, that's fine. Clifford, Spot. Cliford doesn't talk. I'm on my knees immediately for all of these lads.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Well, surely with Clifford, you don't need to get on your knees. Beethoven is all just dogs. Either way, either way, I'm open mine. Lassie. So, Sue me, I'm open of mine. Sophie. We have listener problems now that you've dealt with ours
Starting point is 00:42:59 Oh yes I would love to hear something from the listeners Great now you've been on before We know what kind of advice giver you are Which is I don't remember exactly what you said But I'm sure
Starting point is 00:43:09 Do you remember what kind of advice? I don't think we even asked people back then Catherine Did we not? How many episodes in were we when you did it? I think it was early I think you were like Hey we're just kind of talking
Starting point is 00:43:19 into a box Would you like to Oh my God in the sea container Yes Oh my God and now it's changed It's so clearly formatted We've got box Yes, you do. Yes, you do.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Hello, I've got fake hands behind you. Oh, are those photoshopped in? Yeah. That's incredible. They look very delicate. Do they look closer? Oh, God. Okay, that's weird. Yeah. It's, yeah, not nice. I know.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Difficult. It's difficult. So, what kind of advice giver would you say you are? I would say I'm blunt. Yeah, I agree. I'm blunt. What's sorry? No, no. I would say people think they want advice from me,
Starting point is 00:43:57 And then when they hear it, they're like, I think, no, I think it's different. I think you only come to you if you need the actual truth. The truth. The whole truth. Yeah. Yeah. With like references to previous errors.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And you're like, oh, yeah, no, I did do that again. Sorry, what we? I guess it is a pattern. Yeah, no, no, that's good. But I also think that you can be the person I would go to if I just wanted to cause chaos. Yes. Vengeful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Vengeful. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to come to you after my. first clear date. Catherine's coming on the date.
Starting point is 00:44:31 What? No, I'm not really. We have discussed the possibility of me chaperoning, which I'd obviously love to do, but I don't actually think
Starting point is 00:44:36 would be appropriate. Maybe the two of you could be around the corner and then I can like debrief with you over time and go to the toilet. Oh no, we have to go to the toilet together. That's a different question for next week.
Starting point is 00:44:43 You don't have to go to the toilet. I would encourage you not to follow them to the toilet. Why? Who's what? You do need breaks in a date. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. You can't be like,
Starting point is 00:44:52 now we're going to the toilet. That would be, yeah, too much. You pretend you don't need to go. It also seems like you think you're going to fuck. And also, who's watching the table? Why are we not fucking? You've met five minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Okay. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's ever so hard, isn't it? Write down your questions for next week. Okay, Andrew, do you have a listener problem for us? I do. Amazing. It's about the early days of a relationship.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Ooh. Oh. Okay, go on. This is from B. Hi, B. Hi, B says, hey, Guardian Angels. Okay, that's letting. Whoa, they are pretty good.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yes, okay, hi. Wow. I need some advice on the guy I've been dating. Oh, I mean, yay. I don't know that, Jemda. I really like him and have even started to see a future with him, but an ick has occurred. Here we go. Music is really important to me, and we bonded a lot over that.
Starting point is 00:45:47 However, when he told me he wrote his own music, I grew nervous. When he eventually let me listen to one of his recordings, I have, immediately cringed as he sat opposite me eagerly awaiting feedback He sat opposite you while you listen Yeah it was not only my not my style But it was not good I don't want to tell him he's tone deaf
Starting point is 00:46:07 But also I don't to pretend to like his music Or that I think that it's good Please help with love, B Sophie, no no we have to let Sophie go first And you know that I was just going to explain something But yeah, go on Okay
Starting point is 00:46:20 In the words of I can't remember what they're called In the words In the words of Perhaps Kirsten Dunst Great Be aggressive Be aggressive
Starting point is 00:46:36 I don't think you can pussy foot around this Yeah I think you need to go hard Because then it has a chance Of being funny But it just has to be true That you hate his beauty I just don't think you can try and soften the blow
Starting point is 00:46:48 I don't think you can say I like I think you have to be like Whoa crazy that you're so talented slash successful so like but i but in a way being like like i think you have to try and make it funny that you hate it okay if you like him yeah be like i love me i don't know i love you but i play with me okay um helen could you so you'd be the recording so you sing the song and you're wearing a fedora and i'm watching you what listen to my yeah okay da da da da da da da da
Starting point is 00:47:17 nah na na na wow what is that is that your voice or is that an instrument It's my voice instrument. Okay, okay. I cannot wait for your feedback. It means so much to me. Okay, my vagina just, just felled up like a Venus flytrap. But I wouldn't say that because I'm not unkind.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I'm just blunt. Remain in the role play, please. Sorry. This is your music and I think. And my soul. Okay. But I'm an atheist. and I don't believe in souls or this being played audibly in public.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Good one, what did you really think? Okay, but what I really think is that I'm not the person to judge it. Because you like me so much that you can't but love it? I like you so much that I think that you should play it to other people. Oh, they've all said it's amazing. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:48:28 My friends, my mom? Well, I'm so glad that they like. I thank you, and thank you for including me as well. Of course. So do you want to come to a gig? I will come to the gig. Amazing. But I...
Starting point is 00:48:43 And then come from my music, am I right? Okay. I think, I don't want to see that much of your soul. I would like I don't I think that this felt very intimate so we feel closer
Starting point is 00:48:57 yes but I think that this is a part of you that I would just like to turn away I like I love that it's happening but I would just like to turn away your music is bad
Starting point is 00:49:09 there you go thank you okay I'm going to say that as a non-option no okay but I will say Catherine's musician boy was really
Starting point is 00:49:19 not understanding what was happening I'm going to say you say your music is bad and then you say to me it's not objective it's just bad to me
Starting point is 00:49:29 no you can't I'm sorry you can't I think can I say well you go ahead Helen because you've been waiting I just think honesty is not always the best policy
Starting point is 00:49:38 like it is just your opinion it doesn't mean the music is bad it's just that you didn't like it just go great great like if I was going out I think
Starting point is 00:49:48 what I was going to say earlier is the reason we all had such an intense reaction to hearing that is because we are technically artists and people that we date eventually do come and see us and there's a good chance we're not their thing right so we know this we know the fear i don't think i don't think you should date someone that doesn't that you're not their thing that's what i was going to say so here's my thing my answer is door number three you have to break up there's like there's no way around this if i never i i once dated somebody who objectively like told me in many ways and then like sort of inadvertently, but ultimately it was so apparent,
Starting point is 00:50:21 did not like my comedy. And it was so bad for my self-esteem and also so bad for them because they didn't want to see it and found every discussion of it deeply uncomfortable clearly. And I just think like you cannot go out with somebody whose art you do not respect. And you can't be an artist who has a partner who doesn't even like their art.
Starting point is 00:50:42 It's like you don't like them. But my mom and dad, you're divorced mom and dad. Never mind. I don't think. It's hard not to do it in a nasty way. But I think you could just say I think I took too long over it because, you know, I was seduced by your eyes.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Yeah, yeah, obviously. But I think you could just say, I hate it. I think it's funny when like people have interest that they don't want to interact. But if you, if you've said music is really important to me, you've kind of shook yourself in the front. If you were like, I just hate me. music, then they're like, ha, ha. And they bonded over it.
Starting point is 00:51:21 That's fine. But if you've already established that you like music, I think it is. Sweet B. You can't just have opened with sweet guardian angels and we're like, you got to crush this man and then ditch him. You can't. You can't. Wait,
Starting point is 00:51:35 is music you don't like. Does I miss something? Is the music like the thing? Is it like the job, the goal, the dream? Or is it just like a side thing? I assume just from the context that it's, oh, I compose music on the side. And also, they said that they were tone deaf. I think you could not, I can, I don't think he's tone deaf if he's making music, surely.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Oh, no. Sophie, I'm going to remind you of early comedy days. Okay, okay. I think you can get better. I think if it's something he can get better at. If it's just like, he's not skilled. Have you never seen someone where you're like, there's no hope here? Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Yeah. No, sorry. Also, if you, just because they're making music, you can upload anything to Apple music. If you search, like, a song that's going to have loads of covers, scroll right to the bottom and just find amateur that's uploaded a cover to Apple Music and it's it's like oh no there's there is no hope for some people I'm sorry sorry B sorry B but every art is worth exploring and you can get better at anything you put your mind to apart from string instruments and being tone deaf like I can't sing and that's okay that's just a fact
Starting point is 00:52:38 about me oh we're all very RIP good good luck with your um break up yeah we say break up? Get him to sing into your pussy before he goes. Oh my God, that's got to feel amazing. Like the vibrato, you get like a little shake on it? And would you say like mouth over and then like do like,
Starting point is 00:52:59 uh, okay, I feel like this is a longer episode. That should be a QQQ next time because that ain't it. No, but Catherine really think about it. No. I limp up.
Starting point is 00:53:10 No. No. No. Andrew like no. Sorry, no. I was just imagining the power of an op-trained singer just blasting it. Oh, yeah, you're going straight inside up to the top
Starting point is 00:53:23 because it's all the same, right? Oh, God. Sophie, wow, thank you for the advice. That's been incredible. Would you do it face to face or by... Yes. Yeah, 100%. 100%.
Starting point is 00:53:37 That's tough, that's tough, that's tough. Wow. I'd say give him... No. Let him write three more songs. Nope. Because we've all done like terrible stuff that we're not proud of.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah, but now. I think it's the fact that she's icked out by it. Like, sometimes, like, the person I'm dating is bad and stuff, but I find it sort of endearing. Yeah. And it's like, if you find it fun, we can do this because I'm not grossed. He's like, it's weird that I'm not grossed out by it. But I think that's also a new relationship energy.
Starting point is 00:54:01 You're grossed out in the early stages. Yeah. Oh, my God. When you also dislike them because they haven't picked up their towel or because they would, oh my God. You're going to be like, you're going to be like their towel and this day and age. You're the one who dates men. They don't.
Starting point is 00:54:16 They, I mean, they do. they pick it up like everyone's got hooks I don't know I don't have hooks Sunil hangs up his towel I hang it on the door quite a lot which is bad I've got rail
Starting point is 00:54:24 but still you're still hanging it yeah yeah it's not on the floor collecting or the floor dust why is it dust on your floor because we've got linen sheets and that creates dust
Starting point is 00:54:34 apparently it's the thing you've got to dust we've got to we must you've got to dust we must thank you thank you Sophie Juga I love how this turned into you something about dusting
Starting point is 00:54:43 I know I'm so sorry Sophie Juger where can people find and see you people can find and see me on my tour What's your show called? My show is called But Daddy, I love her We love it
Starting point is 00:54:56 That's how it's pronounced And where are you going? I'm going so many places I don't know when this is coming out But I will still be on tour This Thursday And then a couple of days away Oh my God, okay
Starting point is 00:55:06 You can still catch me at Soho Theatre Maybe Just, just I'm ending this week at Soho Theatre Then I'm going to be in Brighton Then I'm going to be in New York Oh my god International
Starting point is 00:55:20 Wow They got yellow cabs all over the city Not racist Oh no what are you going to do I know I'm so excited for New York It's going to be so much fun And then next year there's going to be
Starting point is 00:55:34 dates all over the UK But they can find tickets on Sophieduca.com Nice Okay gorgeous They can follow you on Instagram at At Sophie Duke Box Fabulous
Starting point is 00:55:43 And they can find you on X at Sophie Dukebox I don't really go on there it's become sort of like a pit I left it guys you left did you do a post being like I'm leaving X
Starting point is 00:55:53 no I was just like I'm fucking out I just deleted I need to do the same it does really upset me well Sophie Duke Box on Instagram sophydooker.com
Starting point is 00:56:02 Brighton New York and beyond but daddy I love her yeah yeah okay I mean it's sort of romantic so I don't want to be read
Starting point is 00:56:11 by like a actual child sorry but daddy I love her Hot, yeah. Oh, put it in the trailer, it's done. Thank you, Sophie, James! Yay!
Starting point is 00:56:22 Oh, my God, you're gorgeous. Thank you so much to our executive producers. You keep the podcast going. You keep me in high fashion. Seriously, thank you so much. No, actually, thank you so much. No, but seriously. Genuinely, thank you, sweet Jesus.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Nothing we can do it today. Let's just give, like, the biggest shout out ever. Yeah. Babes, well. Woo! It's going to get emotional. Simon Moore, Guy Goodman, Annie Tonnell. Stephanie Cassatia, Oliver Jago, Anthony Conway, Neil, Redmond, Madeline Quinn and Sadie Cashmore.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Woo-hoo! It's a good way. They're legend. And here is our amazing producers. L. Richard Bold, Rachel Page, Helen A, Abbey, Warf, Luke Bright, Kate, KC, Ezraigran, Anthony, Sophie Chivers. Becky Chivars, Tim and Dom, Ria Fink, Cordelia, Amy Orundt and Taz, Charlie A, Kerry, Suez, Dean Michael, Brin, Jamryneberg, Tamson Smith Harding. Claire Owen Jones, Harold Van Dyke, David Warwick.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Jessica, Nick, Rachel R. Sarah and Molly, Tina Lindsay, Leah Overend, Hannah J, Clow and Liz Fort. Thank you all so much. Thank you.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.