Trusty Hogs - Ep156. SOPHIE DUKER / Parking, Pubes & Peter Kay
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Catherine, we are the biggest podcast in the world.
Whoa, when do they measure that?
I don't know.
I just decided.
Wow, well, welcome to episode 156 of the biggest podcast in the world.
It's Trustee Hogs.
I'm Catherine Bowhart.
I'm Helen Bauer.
And this is a podcast about, frankly, our perfect lives.
And then you write in with your problems about your, like, stricty lives.
And then we help you.
Aren't we good?
Benevolence.
We're angels.
We are.
We are.
People say all angels are in heaven.
But that can't be true, because we're right here.
Hell.
Through the fog.
Step forth the trusty hogs.
Yeah.
You're going to give them your problems
and they will solve them
or maybe they won't
and that's your problem.
They'll have guests
and Andrew White on the tech.
Oh, it's Helen and Catherine
as the trusty hogs.
Trust the trusty hogs.
Hello, episode 156 starts with a pretty important parish announcement, Helen.
What?
Yeah.
It was sweet, baby boy, Andrew White's birthday.
Happy birthday.
Andrew White.
We hate singing.
Happy, here's a gift.
Yay!
Oh my God, Andrew, how old are you?
Do you know tell the listener?
I'm 25.
25?
You're still only 25.
Do you want to come sit here
on Mommy's lap? Come on now. Come on now.
Wow. Really? Yeah.
Why don't you swap seats for a minute? Oh, okay. Bye,
everyone. Thank you so much for having me.
You're going to sit on...
No, it's nice. You can be in the hot spot
for a moment to open your gift. Here you go.
It's from all of us.
I love this gold sheen.
Lovely shimmer. This is almost certainly a bag
one of us was given a gift by a hog in it.
A hundred percent. That is a gift that
a hug gave me and has now been... Not the gift. Not the gift.
Not the gift. Not the gift.
Not the gift. I think you'll know.
from the gift that it was bought specifically for you.
Thank you. Should I read the card on camera?
No. Well, I mean you can if you want, but it's not.
Me and M signed our names.
What's the gift?
The gift is 100 songs every modern theatre nerd should know.
For the little gay boy.
It's a card game.
I do adore this, but I have nobody to play this with.
Rees!
Oh, yeah.
No, Rees doesn't like musical theatre in the same way.
He does, but...
I have done car shares with Rees, where Rees genuinely started crying.
because of your rendition
of I know him so well.
You're telling me that is not a theatre.
You had sex in front of Helen.
In the car who was driving.
Wait, is that gay sex?
Yes, gay male sex.
If you're, what's that word you said
that if you're not a top or a bottom
but you're like a...
A verse? A verse and a chorus.
Oh, nice. No, but you had that other word
that was like, if you're leaning on something...
A side. Yes. Yes.
So if you're aside, you just do a lame page
duets. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my, so was I, like, a third? Was I there? Yeah. I think you were more like
voyeuristic, like a witness. Oh my God. I cannot wait to talk about this. I know. It's going
to be a lot. I wasn't. I wasn't like exactly right. There's two of them. And also, this is a cake
themed by it's a curly wery cake. And I thought it was important to stress that we got a cake.
We managed to find a cake that had the same theme from an episode on a pot on the podcast. Isn't that
impressive? That is very impressive. Thank you. I got your.
a cake but I came for the compliments basically
there you go. Andrew what do you think
the curly-whirley theme is referring to?
The chocolate bar curly-wurly
okay because bear in mind because I thought that
when I bought the cake and I showed up to see Helen
and I was like I managed to get a curly-wurly themed cake
how exciting and then Helen said
like pubes
and I was like from the podcast
and she was like yeah yeah and I was like no
like the chocolate bar that people bring us and give
you know people because we talked about it on the
yeah no I guess
Get it now. It's very droll.
Why would it be a pub-themed
cake, though? I don't know. I thought
it was rogue for Catherine. I'll be honest.
It's wild. But now when you open it,
you're going to see the decoration on the cake and be like, I kind of do
see that. It's trixie.
But that can be for lunchtime. For now.
Happy birthday, Andrew!
Thank you.
Enjoy your game.
Enjoy your game alone. You can play
solitaire with the cards. How exciting.
Andrew, would you like to play the
birthday game that we play in my house?
Uh, yeah.
Okay, great.
The birthday game goes like this.
Oh no,
I just remembered it's earnest, isn't it?
It's so earnest.
Go on then, yes, I'll still do it.
Andrew.
Sorry.
I just remembered it's earnest.
Have you met yourself?
Your boyfriend cried while you sang
some bullshit musicals either.
No, whoa, whoa, whoa.
It's chess.
Be respectful.
That's chess is bullshit.
Come on.
Andrew.
I love it, but it is bullshit.
What's going on?
Chess the musical.
I don't care.
It's about the Cold War
via the medium of chess.
Hell.
That's hell.
It's by the Abba, Bjorn and Benny.
Christ.
Even worse as well.
Millionaires shouldn't make art.
Rees cried that Andrew was singing,
I know him so well.
It wasn't the version you're thinking.
It was the Peter K cover.
Behavis.
Geraldine.
Yeah, yeah.
With Susan Boyle.
And that was fucking.
Christ, Christ.
Andrew, the question goes like this.
Yes.
In the last year, since your last birthday,
best three things.
Three highlights, please.
Quick as you can.
The growth of trusty hogs.
That was actually so sweet.
It's been a brilliant journey.
Oh my God.
Moving in with Rees.
Nice.
Mad to be second.
Yeah, crazy to add that second.
You're lucky he doesn't listen.
Yeah, you're lucky though, third.
Third, I'm very happy with my career.
Nice.
Oh, that's really lovely.
Thank you.
Three things you want to achieve
before your next birthday.
Oh, that is really tough.
move back to London.
Nice.
Okay.
I love to have you.
I was weird to say out loud.
I don't know.
Did you not feel it when it, did it not feel true when you said it?
No, it does feel, I don't know.
Yeah.
Sometimes the game's good for that.
You go, this thing and then you go, ooh, actually not that thing.
Wow, fascinating.
Yeah, I think I do miss London.
Okay.
I'll leave that to stand for now.
Get on TV.
Get on TV.
Any channel in particular.
Any means possible?
Is that the...
Any means possible.
Okay, great.
I got an email from Britain's Got Talent this morning
because you know they just sort of email every comedian.
Yes.
And they like, it was like written by AI.
They're like reference my most recent TikTok,
but not in a way that made sense.
And then at the end of-
Andrew, don't ruin your chances of getting on Britain's Got Talent
of your goal for this year to get on TV by any means possible.
It's this or a sex tape.
So maybe don't dis it.
At the end of it, they were like,
can we tempt him over from the Isle of White?
Like, what?
You've done no research.
I'm obsessed with that.
um okay great and um and i would like to ride my bike more
it's been sl languishing in my garden for a while those are such sweet goals and you my
favorite one is riding your bike more i need that's so cute you said 25 did you yes yeah
where do you have that's adorable you know ride your bike around london yeah on london
around portsmouth while i'm still there it's a very flat city oh it's gorgeous for bike riding
Gosh. Okay, well, Andrew, wait until I tell you what's been going on in my week, because in many ways, this story is a gift to you on your birthday. You've really put me in the mood for it.
I didn't know that I'd like definitely reached middle age until this weekend, because I didn't know, specifically what I did not know was that I feel like I have a spot on my road. I park outside my house.
The neighbours have gotten a new car, which means instead of having one car, they now have two cars. Bear in mind that they have parked in front of their house and I've parked in front of my house for as long as I've lived there.
reasonable I'd say. I think it's pretty soft like it they've got two cars so now they park in front of
their eyes and in front of my house okay okay and I didn't know that it was my spot I didn't think of it
as my spot but now that it's gone I by the way I love these neighbors they're so nice yeah but the rage
they're like boiling hot right I can feel my blood in my body when I talk about it you're not blinking
I am so angry about it or
all the time.
I'm doing this thing where I'm,
I'm like checking to see if they've moved,
if they've driven off at any point
because the second they do,
I'm moving into that spot.
Just at the front car and twitching.
I'm genuinely,
but I'm not at the front.
My husband has the front room,
so I have to open the door.
I'm opening the door going,
still there?
Still there?
I'm bringing my car key around with me
in case I come home one day
and I don't even have to go in
in case I miss the chance.
I can just whiz up.
I'm furious about it.
Wow.
And I don't,
there are no spots,
by the way.
It's on.
street parking. But I, wow, I can't. There are spots. There are spots, though. I think outside my
house is my spot. But apparently it's not. And wow, I, I, I, I, I, like, he's so nice. He's the
nicest man in the world. Honestly, the other day, I was like, new car. But underneath it, I was
like, get the fucking car out of my spot. Things happen to the nicest people in the world.
Tire slashing happens to the nicest people in the world. Who's the nicest man in the world? God,
look what happened to his son.
Look what happened to his son?
You think he's the nicest man in the world?
Well, he's like one of them, isn't it?
He's supposed to be.
Do you think?
I don't think he, no.
He's very vengeful.
Yeah.
Well, he's got a temper.
Yeah, I don't know that he's the nicest guy in the world.
Yeah, it was a really bad example, actually.
Yeah, crazy choice, but I liked you joining in.
Andrew, what would you do if you were me?
This is tricky because there is, it's an unwritten law, but it's not, yeah.
You get it.
I, because I also have street parking, and especially coming home late at night,
I'm sure you'll find this.
going to gigs is that everyone, you know, they're in bed by the time you get back.
So they've all parked their cars.
I have to park three, four streets away sometimes.
What?
Yeah, it's horrible.
Oh, that actually puts it into perspective.
I'm just like four doors up and fuming.
Oh, right.
You could put your bins out in that space.
That's what a lot of people do.
But that's outrageous.
I think that's fine.
That has the energy of people who get up at seven to put their tails by the pool and I'm not that person.
But you could become her, Catherine.
No, I actually feel very strongly that whoever's there,
first should get to get the first as in like whoever has come down ready for the day first
gets the fucking sun lounger i don't think you get to book it at seven and then go back to bed
till nine 30 you absolute you're aiming this at the germans and i'm fully aware of that
why do they do it so english people do it too english people do it too i'm sorry it's out
fucking rages i know i know because i went to greece as you know recently and that was full of
english people which i wasn't expecting was very annoyed by and they were constantly with the
towels.
What's that
the Irish
fighting for that
one spot in
the shade
isn't it
as well?
No!
I actually love
lying in the sun.
The sun hates me
but I genuinely
love lying in the sun.
Ellen was so...
You can't think
the sun hates you.
I mean I get
Ellen was surprised by it.
I know.
Gorgeous.
You're nice to me.
But yes,
anyway, all that is to say
that that's just a rage
I'm living with
that actually I genuinely
feel better for having
talked about it
because the four streets
away thing, that's crazy.
Can I make a fun suggestion?
I'll relax.
This will not help you
relax but Soneil does it
because we've
I don't know if I want mental health advice from Sunil.
I wouldn't say it's mental health advice, but practical.
I was just talking about my mental health when I was talking about the car.
Okay.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Didn't you hear anything I said?
It's my special spot.
I don't like change.
I can't stop thinking about that cockatoo I sent you this morning now.
Helen sent me the best video this morning ever,
probably the video that best sums up our entire friendship.
It's a sort of drunk cockatoo wandering along being like,
off to meet my friend to help her with a mental crisis,
even though I'm obviously having a mental breakdown myself.
And it's his comedy.
I know the cockatoo.
And truly nothing has ever
something of our friendship.
It's just two women are having me like,
you will, you good?
Yeah.
Hi, how are you?
I'm fine.
What's up with you?
Bown, bough.
I'm not going to tell you what Sonell does then.
I feel like that.
No, tell me.
Well, he watches the space,
even though he's not there,
on his ring camera.
Oh, God.
So he's got a ring camera
that obviously faces out.
And then he can watch the neighbors
and who parks where.
That's psychotic.
So then he knows exactly who's taking it
at different points.
I know exactly who's taking it.
It's the loveliest people on Earth,
which is why I can't do anything about it.
Yeah, I'm neither.
And there's nothing to do.
Devils.
Oh, really, we got very lucky with one side.
One side.
And I mean that.
And you'll never know which.
And I mean that.
And you'll never know which.
They're the loveliest people on Earth.
God damn it.
My dad had a ring camera.
Well, colonoscopy.
But, come on.
Come on.
Again, did you say 25?
Can I ask you something, though?
Yes.
Because I know the car has obviously overshadowed everything.
And obviously this is a tricky time of the year for every performer because it's around
this time we find out that once again we have not been booked for Panto.
Are you okay?
I'm all right.
I'm all right.
Are you okay?
No, not really.
Okay, well.
I don't know that my hopes were resting on it in the way that yours seemed to have been.
All I needed.
Right.
Okay.
Wow.
Wow.
Oh, wow.
I'm not talking about the princess or the prince.
Just a genie.
Just a genie.
You'd be a perfect genie.
Just something fun.
We should stage your own panto.
I don't want to do that.
Oh.
The hope in your eyes.
I'm so sorry.
I had to kill it fast because I was like,
if I even kind of entertain this,
it'll become a thing.
By the way, we haven't even talked about the fact
that this week is Clapham Grand for Trustee Hogs.
Oh my God.
And I still can't believe how many people have bought tickets.
Thank you all so much.
If you're a person who's bought a ticket to Clapham Grant,
thank you, thank you.
Wow.
We're so looking forward to it.
We're going to have the best night of our lives.
And I can't believe James A. Caster has agreed to do it.
Pokemon, baby.
Honestly, baffling.
Did you trick him into thinking he's getting something?
I don't think I've got anything for him.
But you lied to him?
I think he just feels loyalty to the Pokemon group.
That's kind.
And also, it brings all of us in the Pokemon community great joy to watch you get slowly more and more stressed.
Does that I'm going to have to talk about Pokemon on Wednesday?
Exclusively.
Oh, for fucks sake.
Exclusively.
But you have to tell me.
He's a big enough draw.
We got to do it.
You have, yes, Clap and Grand's a big show this week.
But last week, Catherine Mary, Joseph Bohart did a big show of your own.
Oh, yeah.
It was so exciting.
Well, it was so interesting because I think I maybe over-egged Bloomsbury Theatre in my head.
I was so excited for it.
Yeah.
That I think that I forgot that at the minute with shows, I don't know if you know this,
but with like live shows, no shows are pretty like the most of you've ever had at shows.
More and more I noticed, like, even though my shows are sold out,
people, and I've spoken to other people
and it's the same thing, which is like, there are more no shows
post-COVID. I think because people are
more reticent to go to things if they have like a niggly
throat or like, but also
very sweetly, this show sold out
ages ago and I think people
probably been planted in January and then were like, oh should
I actually have to do something? So I came out being
like, whew! And then I was like, obviously my
OCD brain was like, there are 17
empty seats and they're the only seeds I can see.
So I over-eged it. Also,
Andrew opened for me and killed it.
But it was really good. It was just
I think
maybe this is too honest
I had the most amazing time
and maybe I shouldn't say this
but I you know
don't sell out a lot of 500 seaters yet
and I'm getting used to them
but they are a totally different skill
like they just are to a hundred seater
and I you know
you can only do those things when you get to do them
but by virtue of it taking time
you've never done them before
so yeah it was just nervous
in a way that I haven't been in ages
but the thing is I get not
I didn't I've only done one
big show like that
and granted it was shared with Olga Cock
at Earth. I think
like the sound travels
differently as well as there's more people
and also like I mean
my tour shows are about
100 people and it's very
intimate so the show has a more like
confessional intimate thing whereas you lose
that vibe. Listen it still
it was beautifully it was so good and it did
still feel intimate because of the light of the room
I just it's just a different beast
and I'm yeah I'm used to like 200
250 and I guess it just feels a bit more pressurizing and a bit scarier but I really enjoyed it
and I think I did the show to the best of my ability on the night and do she crush she crush
she was crushing she was crushing he's nice um but he did also leave so he doesn't really know
um he lives on the coast I told him to I told him to during the opening she crushed and I
100% believe and people did tell me because I had friends in the crowd you're sweet Andrew I remember
you doing lester square for the first time I was there which was at
At that point, the biggest room.
Yes, it's true.
And you were very nervous.
And granted, I didn't, you let me do your walk on, which you regretted.
Yeah, it didn't help.
But, um, I can't hear you.
It was just a bit of fun, wasn't it?
Catherine.
She fired me on stage.
Immediately.
And I don't regret it.
But, um, like, you were nervous and then you rose to it and then you loved it.
And then instead of like having to play that one again, you went up a room size again.
And like, I know that like, O2 is calling all the time being.
like, can you do trusty hogs here?
Can you do a solo show there?
I just want to get used to the lack of intimacy, the O2, relax.
Also, they will not let you perform on the ice of Disney on ice.
And until that, why am I playing the O-T?
What's the point? What's the point?
I completely agree with you.
I can really, no, listen, it was so amazing.
I just, um, it's, it's an, it's an exciting thing.
I think it's just we're sort of, um, I think this is always true of comedy.
I guess maybe it's true of all jobs, but like the second you can swim in whatever
depth of order you're in, and sorry to bring up swimming.
because I know that's a trigger for us.
I'm not even going to look at you.
Well done you.
But then it can quite quickly, they're like,
okay, great, into deeper orders.
And you're like, huh?
I just got so, I just barely got comfortable.
Can I do?
So it was amazing and scary and I had a nice time in TA too.
I don't know what you mean.
I remember someone saying,
I can't remember who it was.
You know, when you're like new
and you get passed at the clubs to do middle spots.
Like you've done the open spots.
You're in the club.
You're getting paid.
You're doing middle spots.
And obviously, when you're middling,
it's really excited because you're getting paid
for the first.
first time but usually you've also still got a day job and when you're middling it's very hard to do
double ups to do two gigs you only earn the middle fee which is not the highest fee of the night
because it's also the easiest spot and you sort of go like oh I kind of wish I was doubling up or I wish
I could so I want to quit my day job I want to do more but then someone was like you only get to middle
for five minutes for a very short amount of time like if you're lucky right and then you're on to
opening which is so much harder and the middle spot is
is the only time where you can really play around with your set,
figure out different 20s.
Wasted on us.
It's like how I realise now, I'm like,
oh my God, you should get to be a baby as an adult.
They should be like, do you know?
Wait, wait.
Hear me out.
That was such a job.
Hear me out.
No, hear me out because you don't, it's wasted.
It's wait.
Youth is wasted on the young.
In the same way that like the middle spots wasted on people who want to actually progress in their career.
What you want is people who are tired.
People have had too much pressure.
People who just wanted it.
play that you want to you want to put your pros in the middle spot that would be excited they don't
not be changed no I don't my nappy change per se but what I would love no I don't but what I would
like is like can you imagine coming in from work one day and just someone being like hey you
it's time for bed your dinner is on the table and I've already drawn you a bath come on
soon it'll be 715 come on in you get in you get do you want some toys do you want a story
you want some toys that's like wasted on babies wasted oh my god I feel really
emotional. Can you imagine? Can you ask me again if I want, if it's time for bed? It's time for bed. Come on. It's almost
7.30. Do you need me to brush your teeth? Yeah. Do you need. Yes. I want you to brush me. Yeah. I do think
that's wasting on baby baby drink into bed with me. Exactly. Exactly. In a bottle. And then I put you into bed and
then I say, Helen, I'm going to come back in and check in half an hour and you better be asleep.
You're going to powder baby Helen's bottom. Of course. But also it's just like, imagine someone
being like, you better get yourself to bed. I've run you a bat. Oh. With that like, I'm with like,
baby um what's it called like the johnson's baby like bath wine and a little a little mobile over
your head and somebody just like rub your ears while you're going to say heaven i don't know something
gentle like they did like a spaniel yeah i'm just like oh my god heaven i just feel like i can't remember
the last time i didn't come in and when i was absolutely exhausted and sort of sit for too long in my
coat sort of staring staring and then i got too tired to take off my makeup and then i'm too tired
to brush my teeth and then i wait up another hour just to get up the energy to do those things and then
I wish I'd done them an hour and a half ago, so now I'm in a cycle.
Maybe I'll watch some television while I think about this.
Is I'm hungry?
It's been ages since dinner.
Then I'm suddenly eating crisps and it's midnight and I'm thinking, fuck, I wish someone
would just pop me to bed.
What crisps are you having before bread?
Sometimes ready salted.
Sometimes ready salted.
Yeah.
Also, I've started to do this thing, the equivalent, the only way of like babying myself
is that I have started at tour shows to bring my makeup remover.
Have I said this to you before?
I bring it all with me.
I find it inspirational.
I do my skincare before I get into the car, so when I get at home at least, I can just
get into bed.
Because honestly,
I will sit for an hour and a half
if I have a five-minute job to do
because I'm so tired.
I'm proud of you.
Thank you.
But I also feel like
you have an option to be baby.
You have a girlfriend.
What's the point in being a relationship
as someone's not going to run you a bar?
I think that you forget the dynamics form pretty quickly
and I don't know.
I just sort of had this insistence
that she'd treat me like an adult
and find me sexy.
Oh, no, I'm not going to say that.
Oh my God.
Did you just edit yourself?
I sent him myself.
Is that the first time?
Helen!
Oh my God, everyone, thank you.
Oh my God.
Oh, my God, you're such an adult.
That was crazy.
Oh, my God.
And I would have got on a whole riff about Tullus and tiaras.
I know, I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I would have been sexualizing babies so fast.
I know.
I didn't.
I didn't.
No, you did.
No, you didn't.
No, you didn't.
I'm proud of you.
Helen, that's gross.
I'm now five.
That was beautiful.
Thank you.
Oh, my God.
Are you five?
A mature five.
No.
It feels like we're circling back to the same wrong territory.
I nearly bought baby bath stuff, though.
Yesterday, me and Francis were doing like, you know,
when you're just like pottering about.
Yeah.
Just having a potter.
We had lunch, tea and cake.
Charming on a Sunday afternoon.
I went rogue, coconut and raspberry loaf.
Really?
Was it good?
And, oh my God, it had a flapjack crumble consistency.
No, that's a no from me, but that's fascinating.
I understand that.
but I'd beg of you to try it
I can find a gluten-free option
It was somewhere called Megans
Oh my God, I figured out my allergies, sidebar
What, they should have been headline news
Oh my God, yes, sorry
Parish announcement number two
Parish announcement number two
Catherine is allergic to
Onion
Devastating
But there's a method for reintroduction
I'm doing loads of stuff with my stomach
And I actually spoke to a nutritionist
Because she was a dietitian, a dietitian
Who literally runs my run club
And was like, I'll help you
and I was like, oh my God.
I'm obsessed that we're both on the nutrition train.
She's more, she's genuinely like a dietitian from the public health sector in Australia,
but she is when I runs a beauty company.
Anyway, she's amazing.
And then she gave me lots of great stuff.
And also, I'm not like, I don't want to do any of the emotional work.
I'm just like, medicate me, bitch, which she is.
And then, um, so onion, avocado.
Not all gluten.
It's basically gluten in excess.
Like if I, I'm basically like in a situation where I can eat sourdough bread.
but I can't eat like most breads.
Okay.
And if I have a slice of bread, I'm fine,
but if I have a pizza, I'm fucked.
But you could have a crumpet.
Exactly.
And what is interesting is it also is to do with stress.
And the other thing,
and this one's that I think arguably the most difficult,
tannins in red wine.
I know.
And I actually, the nice thing is the dietitian was like,
oh, okay, so you can just literally make decisions.
She was like, if most of the time we don't have those things,
which is relatively easy
because I don't drink
wine at breakfast
anymore.
You have an onion bargy
every day at a letter
every.
It's that I'm complaining.
My onion baggie
and red wine breakfast.
No.
Oh, that actually does sound delicious
and I'm obviously
now going to crave that
with a side of avocado.
When you love it,
I'm just had to come
into frame my holding on an onion bargey.
Not to day,
haven't you just heard?
But yes,
but all of that is to say
that you can make decisions about it
which is to say like
sometimes it's worth the trade-off
and sometimes it's not.
And if I'm extremely
be anxious it's not the time to do it
and also you can reintroduce it slowly
and she's just and she's given me
lots of stuff for bloating and it's just really nice and I feel
much calmer now around food because what I had gotten
to was a stage of real fear around food
yeah yeah yeah and now I feel a bit more relaxed
which is nice this is great
yeah I was just basically scared of eating anything because I was like
what's this going to do and that's how I'm going to feel
what's a reaction and also like
then sort of depriving myself
to the point of then I would just binge because I would be like
fuck it out I had figured out at all
all of which is a day was in a bad cycle and I feel much
Cameron now
that's nice
good for you
but wait
we were talking
about something
before this
me and Francis
having a potter around
and my question
was what cake
did Francis get
carrot
yum
I love carrot
I love that
we got back
there
cream cheese icing
yes
yeah
it was just
any orange
I don't think
I had one bite
of Francis
no that's fine
but it was just
very wholesome
last week I made
carrot cake
protein
baked oats
and ate
like a granola
No, you cook them in the oven
It's like oats and
Then you make an icing with
I know this sounds terrible but it's really good
Silk and tofu and vanilla protein powder
Oh my God
Okay, I'm not yeah
It's genuinely delicious
I'm sure it's immense
It's delicious but it's also like
A really high protein breakfast
Like your two eggs
Thank you
But also my favorite thing about it is
It's just made every day
I don't have to go back and make it again
How does tofu become an icing?
Basically if you mix it with water
and vanilla protein powder
it becomes like a really smooth like it tastes like cream cheese yeah it's delicious put a little
maple syrup it's amazing what like how who found that out it makes a really good chocolate
moose yeah i believe that this we're living in such an insane time aren't we yeah it's incredible
oh i did some cooking last week what you make a spaghetti bolognese but like i went like the full
thing yum what are we talking like i cooked the carrot and celery in bacon grease that i got from
bacon like oh my god wow i made the most indulgence the gate bono days and because you know
senile banned me from having pasta at lunchtime i that's okay talk me through that um
so you know how i decided i'm not getting depression this winter yeah yeah you were very firm on
that so if i have pasta i have pastor at lunchtime you get the symptoms of depression
i have to i have to lie down and sleep off i actually really get that i had to ban myself from watching
television first thing or even at lunch time, I had to have an after 6pm rule because similarly
I would sit down at lunch. I'd just do one episode of maths with my lunch and then obviously
just have a little light in and then it's like 5.30 and I'm like, ah! So then you get depressed.
Yeah, exactly. So I was like, okay, because I, so I have pasta for lunch. I try and have a coffee
and then I fall asleep drinking the coffee. And then I wake up really sad because I'm like, oh, I did
nothing today. And he's like, you ain't a pasta bake. Yeah, you've got to stop doing it. Like a family
home pride, pasta bake. You can't do that anymore. I can see the issue. Yeah. So I made spaghetti
Bolandes and he was like, only for dinner. Fairly. I think that's good to have like some
solidarity in the house. I think it's good. I think it's good. But also, I got depression immediately
after I said I wasn't going to get depression. It was awful, Catherine. Helen, you were very clear.
You're not getting this year. I know. I was manifesting not getting depression this winter. It's been,
if anyone who's not in the UK, it is great. It has been raining for like two. It has been raining for like two
week smell. It's just been grim.
I even went out on a walk one day.
In this weather? Uh-huh. I've been running in this weather
and I'm really not enjoying it. It's sleek. I also
it's such stressful weather because it's like
it's still warm enough that if you layer up at all you're going to be
absolutely sweaty. Oh, if you wear a raincoat, you're going to
fucking make a swamp in your teeth. Yeah. And then
okay, that's not quite what I was saying, but yeah.
Me neither. Me neither. I don't do that because that's for like other people.
Yeah, gross mingers. Well, no, genuinely I just don't have any boobs. So
where would the swamp be? But I guess, um, it's
more like I find like, I'm like, what am I wearing? And then also the idea of bracing yourself
for going into it. I keep having to have a word with myself and being like, you're not rich.
Like you cannot get in an Uber just because it's raining because that's going to be raining
for the next six months. But it's really, really disappointing. It's overwhelming, isn't it?
It's so overwhelming. It turns out I didn't have depression though. I still my period the next day,
so that was fine. Oh, fine. So you don't have depression? No, but I really believed it for like
eight hours. I was like, it's happened. Do you have a period tracking out?
It's happened. I do. I just never look at it.
Okay.
But yeah, it started my period and I was out of town and so I messaged him being like,
oh, it's okay.
I wasn't depressed yesterday.
I started my period and he went, don't come home until you finished your period.
And I was like, this is really healthy.
This is really healthy.
But I did and then I got drunk.
I went to a hotel bar and had vodka martini's.
Wait, what?
I'm on Saturday night.
I don't know what happened to me.
And then went home, took out a tampon, forgot to put one in, woke up.
Absolutely fucking.
Carnage.
Yeah.
A bloody hand as well must have gone for a wank in the sleep.
Absolutely nightmare.
Do you ever do that where you like start tugging yourself off like in the middle of the night for no reason?
Just say tugging yourself off.
Tugging yourself off.
We're not tugging.
Do you know what I mean?
Like Robin.
Hello?
But, um, yeah.
Should we leave it there?
Should we introduce our guest?
Have we ever introduced a guest on a tone that was ever nice and welcoming and not just horrifying in a way for me to get out of the podcast?
We did once and then we referenced that it was nice and Helen said something horrible.
Yeah, that fits.
That checks out.
Also a woman's body's horrible.
What a fucking thing to say.
Your woman's body is horrible
and the way you speak about it is even worse.
Okay, please welcome for the podcast.
It's the tremendous Sophie Juker.
Sophie Juker.
Welcome.
You look beautiful if you're listening and you can't see.
Sophie looks beautiful.
Believe it.
Believe it.
Believe it.
Believe it.
I already grabbed at Sophie's thigh.
Oh wow, I didn't notice
and now I feel like
Do you not notice?
Don't, I thought you know
I grabbed your clothing
because there's like handles on it
Oh yeah
No my clothing has handles
And you like ran me like I was a little teapot
I just wanted to see if I could like hold on
Wait this skirt has handles
It's not I don't know there
Okay I'm standing up
Yeah let's see it let's sort of put like
Oh yeah sexy handles
That's so nice
And you want a grabby
Yeah but you shouldn't
You know that you mustn't
You mustn't you have
And you've been very
I sort of did
Yeah but
he doesn't even remember so that's fine i don't remember it it's i'm just a judge that makes it okay right
oh my god oh hi you are you are mid-soho run yes how the hell's it going oh my god it's so fun
it is so fun i always dread the start of something new so even though i'm like technically
this is a good thing we live in too excited a time yeah yeah what about a little bit of dread yeah
and people always like refer to the thing you'll do they're like oh are you excited about this thing that
you poured loads of time and energy and money into it.
We're like, yes.
I guess.
I guess so.
But then you get there and it's okay.
Well,
I think that's a better way to live because if you're like dreading and anxious in the run-up
to anything good, then you're pleasantly surprised with the good things good.
If you're excited, if you're hopeful, those people can only be crushed.
Yeah, you can only be let down.
But you've never let anyone down.
This is true.
This has been documented.
I've never disappointed anyone.
I remember going to see your first shot.
My ex is love me.
Yep.
You're fucking amazing.
All shows are always really good.
You're a fucking legend.
And also, like, you belong in Soho.
I'm sorry, you've got to bury Soho.
You're wearing a beret right now.
I do have a beret on.
The whole outfit is like, I guess I live in East London,
but my heart's in Soho.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
I feel like Soho really tries to be like that girl.
Like that girl and you're like,
how about I'm this girl and we meet each other in town?
Soho was charming.
I walked through it for the first time at night,
for the first time in ages.
You're meaning the whole area, not the theatre.
and like just like people in these nice restaurants like laughing it like really felt very like
knotting hell sorry that is the story of all comedians it's like oh yeah I love that place I've
I've witnessed other people have a good time there on Saturday night because it's just honestly
I was in a green room in comedy store one Friday night and somebody asked the question
which you must never ask a green room full of comedians on a Friday night what do you think
other people do on a Friday night oh wow and it was everyone just being like
I guess they, like, get dinner and go out with their friends.
I guess maybe someone see a theater show.
And it was dark.
It was honestly like a bunch of, like,
kids at the window of a restaurant.
Do they disco?
I think people disco.
I think when I see people, when I leave a gig,
I assume they've been roaming the streets all night, like,
fellow games.
So I have like this weird.
I'm like, why are they so excited?
Because I'm just like, they're out.
I'm just like, okay.
I'm going to play a game with both of you.
I want both of you to describe.
to me, your perfect Friday evening.
And this, without even having guilt
of I should be gigging or like, oh my God,
this is a good night to earn.
Like, nothing, that doesn't exist.
Comedy doesn't exist.
What is the perfect Friday night?
Sophie Duke will be coming to you first.
The perfect Friday.
Do I have a job?
You can have, you can have a job.
You can have a job at like five.
I finished my job at five.
Whoa.
Okay.
Yeah.
And they had one of those charlies
where you had one drink before you left.
Oh, yes.
Good.
Yeah.
Okay.
I walk out of my job into the street.
I immediately get in a taxi to the airport.
A black cab?
Okay, don't make it very short.
Just a taxi.
That's on me.
Driven by a normal.
That's on me.
That's on me.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I don't care who's driving the cab.
That's not part of my fantasy.
As long as there's not a woman.
We don't mind.
It's got to be a man in the cab.
I hail the cab.
I don't have to use an app.
I'm not looking at my phone because I'm so free.
Oh, sweat.
I get in the cab.
Maybe it's been booked for me.
Wow.
I get in the cab.
Where's it going to London City Airport?
Gorgeous.
London City.
The easiest of all airports to navigate.
Gorgeous.
Where am I flying?
Wow.
Where?
The south of France.
Oh.
Yeah.
Bonjour, bonso.
Bonjour, bonjour.
I've got a little like, I'm going for like a weekend trip.
What?
Oh, I can't.
My life.
No.
It's a fantasy evening, Catherine.
We'll come to yours in a moment.
But your whole evening's travel?
It's not going to take that long, is it?
I think maybe Sophie maybe goes to bed
a little bit later than both the months.
That's true.
Because you're thinking on the end of the night,
I'm going to assume 9pm.
And my babe,
Sophie is definitely out and about
a bit more of a scene star, okay?
We will come, no one's judging,
but we'll come to your perfect night in a minute.
I've already decided mine and you're so right.
I know, you teared up last week
about wanting, oh no, earlier today.
Sorry, start again.
you teared up at the beginning of this episode,
the idea of someone drawing a bath
and saying it's bedtime.
Yeah, that's my dream.
So we're in, we're in, Marseille.
Marseille is where we are.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fly to Marseille.
Have a little, go to a little car,
have a little appro, a little wine.
A car?
Wow. Wait?
Cafe.
Oh, a cafe.
Yeah.
Did I say I got in another car?
I love to travel.
The whole thing's different modes of transport.
Oh, the cafes that have the,
they like,
have the wine and little glasses.
Yeah.
I prefer that so much to a wine glass.
Yeah, I feel like a stem is intimidating.
Just a little, it's terrifying.
Yeah.
Yeah, good for you.
And I'm just drinking wine.
I can see the sea.
Maybe I go to a nighttime party, a discotheque.
Whoa.
The famous.
Do you still have your suitcase?
Where are you putting it?
How do you checked it?
It's just a berry.
It's just a berry.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah, I think I just, I think I just go away.
I think I could get into this if.
The reason you haven't had to bring anything is because you already own a place in
Marseille.
And you go.
go there of the weekend a lot. So when you get there,
your bits lower to be in the wardrobe. Oh, yeah, that would be
perfect. Oh, okay, I'm in for that.
This is really gorgeous, Sophie.
Thank you so much. I hope you have the best
night ever. Thank you. I well.
Should we hear the cool, the cool girls
version of? Well, now, honestly, my
my Friday night is, I
follow Sophie Juker.
She hails us a cab.
We're going...
We're going to be... I will not...
Irish cab. You're an Irish cab? Just a jack.
No, obviously what my actual answer is, is I go home from work.
I take off my bra, my shoes, my socks.
I put on, honestly, crocs.
On your best night?
My Friday night.
Fairlight?
I've got, no, I've got like crocs that I have so many jewels on.
They've all been thoughtfully bought for me by friends, question mark.
Now, the most important thing is that I go, honestly, 250 meters tops.
to my local restaurant.
They take me to my table that is always my table.
They bring me my cocktail.
That is always my cocktail.
Where's the table?
What's the cocktail?
Table is not near the door.
Towards the back.
Thank you so much.
And I'm facing into the restaurant.
Thank you so much.
Not away.
I don't look at a wall.
My girlfriend can meet me there.
How exciting.
They bring us our cocktails that are our cocktails.
They bring us the menu,
but we already know what we're going to want.
But they're polite.
They let us have that.
They bring us free.
And I do mean this, free bread.
and then we order the same thing
we always order at having
being like maybe we could but we won't
and then I go home and have a bath
and then we watch a movie
oh Catherine do you fall asleep during the film
because the baths made you a bit tired
probably
but at the end I go
that was great
it's so good what happened
so good so good
so good and then the next morning
because I'm so rested
I can get up at like eight and go for a long run
in the park
we're so fun
I feel like I should have come to Catherine first
I know obviously that one sounds better
no your one sounds glorious
but I don't know a place in Marseille
neither do I
but Saturday night would be my big night
and I have to say of the two
if I'm working out of nine to five
oh no
the worst people go out on Saturday night
Hello
Bonjour
I am the worst people
Wait wait why did the worst people go out on Saturday night
Because it's the night
It's the night whenever I'm so sorry
I'm such a wanker
It's the night that everyone's out, so everything's more expensive.
Right, right, right, right.
Like, everyone's out.
Everyone's just running around.
I should say going out to me is like, best case scenario,
going to a friend's house for a house party or dinner party.
Okay, fun.
And if you're going out, on a Saturday,
you can't really go to TGI Fridays.
And if you're going out, why are you not going to TGI Friday?
I do agree.
And, oh, the one in Stratford,
where they have that car outside that you can sit in and eat your food at?
I've not been to that one.
You can sit at the car.
I think it's open every night of the week.
Yeah, but it feels good.
It doesn't make sense.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I love T.J. Friday so much. And it turns out so does Charlie Clive, which we find out early in our relationship. So we call it the club.
It's the club. Tell you what restaurant I've been absolutely charmed by. Go on. I don't know if they exist anymore. Vapiano. Yes.
Oh, my. Vapiano exists. They exist. But like, I have not seen them around loads recently. There's one in solo.
St. Giles Square. Thank you.
Thank you.
The place was the way she did that. Did you see that?
I wasn't, were you googling that before?
I was three steps ahead and I could see Helen going, where?
I do have a question, though.
I've actually never been inside of that pianos.
What's the vibe?
You would lose every ounce of cum in your body.
You would lose it.
It's incredible.
It's like Italian, right?
More than Italian.
It's Italian mixed with your school canteen.
Say more.
So you go in, pick your pasta, pick your sauce.
What do you want in there?
Like, what do you want cheese wise?
and you sort of stand there while they make it all fresh
and then put it on a plate.
I have to say I like table service.
Well, we will not be going to papillanos.
But you can also do your own pizza and stuff.
I don't know you can do your own pizza.
Uh-huh.
The one outside of Disneyland Paris,
you can do your own pizza in.
That feels like a long way to go.
That would be my dream night.
Just for the fireworks.
Just for the fireworks.
Little bathies and then watching the, uh,
watching the fireworks with Goofy.
And then,
don't she die.
Oh my God, with Goofy.
Like, I'm already emotional.
He's a single dad.
Like, we're,
he is a single dad.
He is.
I get on my knees.
I'll give him a notch.
He's a dog.
He's a dog.
No, if Goof.
Oh, sorry, Catherine.
Sorry, Catherine.
What do we talk about?
Okay.
We don't raise their hands or scream at the,
at the, moderating emotions.
At the guess.
Thank you.
Yeah.
If Goofy is a dog
Yeah
What the fuck is Pluto
Ooh
Okay
Because Goofy's walking
He's talking
He's chatting
He's got kids
He's got his own film
Pluto
A dog
Can't speak
Okay
Owned by Mickey
Goofy has agency
Goofy owns property
Goofy has a car
I can't believe I'm saying this
But she's got a point
But Mickey
Is Mickey not a mouse
Okay
Sophie's hands are also
slightly raised
No, I think it's new thing.
I think is Mickey a mouse?
A mouse with more than a billion dollars.
Oh, Sophie has kind of got you there though.
Yeah.
Mickey and Minnie are a mouse and they own the company.
But then surely Goofy can be a dog.
It's not okay.
Why is Mickey involved right now?
Because if he's a mouse, an animal with agency,
then surely Goofy can be a dog and animal with agency.
Yeah, but then there's two dogs in that world and one can't talk and has agency and one does.
It's like you've never heard of social stratification, Helen.
So, for, I haven't.
I think you just need to back the fact that you would gnotch off a talking dog.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll back 100% about that.
That was ever a question.
Okay.
Oh my, immediately.
Okay, that's fine.
Clifford, Spot.
Cliford doesn't talk.
I'm on my knees immediately for all of these lads.
Well, surely with Clifford, you don't need to get on your knees.
Beethoven is all just dogs.
Either way, either way, I'm open mine.
Lassie.
So, Sue me, I'm open of mine.
Sophie.
We have listener problems
now that you've dealt with ours
Oh yes
I would love to hear
something from the listeners
Great now you've been on before
We know what kind of advice giver you are
Which is
I don't remember exactly what you said
But I'm sure
Do you remember what kind of advice?
I don't think we even asked people back then
Catherine
Did we not?
How many episodes in were we when you did it?
I think it was early
I think you were like
Hey we're just kind of talking
into a box
Would you like to
Oh my God in the sea container
Yes
Oh my God and now it's changed
It's so clearly formatted
We've got box
Yes, you do. Yes, you do.
Hello, I've got fake hands behind you.
Oh, are those photoshopped in?
Yeah.
That's incredible. They look very delicate.
Do they look closer?
Oh, God. Okay, that's weird. Yeah.
It's, yeah, not nice.
I know.
Difficult. It's difficult.
So, what kind of advice giver would you say you are?
I would say I'm blunt.
Yeah, I agree.
I'm blunt.
What's sorry?
No, no.
I would say people think they want advice from me,
And then when they hear it, they're like,
I think, no, I think it's different.
I think you only come to you if you need the actual truth.
The truth.
The whole truth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With like references to previous errors.
And you're like, oh, yeah, no, I did do that again.
Sorry, what we?
I guess it is a pattern.
Yeah, no, no, that's good.
But I also think that you can be the person I would go to if I just wanted to cause chaos.
Yes.
Vengeful.
Yeah.
Vengeful.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm going to come to you after my.
first
clear date.
Catherine's coming on
the date.
What?
No,
I'm not really.
We have discussed
the possibility of me
chaperoning, which I'd
obviously love to do,
but I don't actually think
would be appropriate.
Maybe the two of you
could be around the corner
and then I can like debrief
with you over time and go to the toilet.
Oh no,
we have to go to the toilet together.
That's a different question for next week.
You don't have to go to the toilet.
I would encourage you not to follow them to the toilet.
Why?
Who's what?
You do need breaks in a date.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
You can't be like,
now we're going to the toilet.
That would be,
yeah, too much.
You pretend you don't need to go.
It also seems like you think you're going to fuck.
And also, who's watching the table?
Why are we not fucking?
You've met five minutes ago.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's ever so hard, isn't it?
Write down your questions for next week.
Okay, Andrew, do you have a listener problem for us?
I do.
Amazing.
It's about the early days of a relationship.
Ooh.
Oh.
Okay, go on.
This is from B.
Hi, B.
Hi, B says, hey, Guardian Angels.
Okay, that's letting.
Whoa, they are pretty good.
Yes, okay, hi.
Wow.
I need some advice on the guy I've been dating.
Oh, I mean, yay.
I don't know that, Jemda.
I really like him and have even started to see a future with him, but an ick has occurred.
Here we go.
Music is really important to me, and we bonded a lot over that.
However, when he told me he wrote his own music, I grew nervous.
When he eventually let me listen to one of his recordings, I have,
immediately cringed as he sat opposite me
eagerly awaiting feedback
He sat opposite you while you listen
Yeah it was not only my not my style
But it was not good
I don't want to tell him he's tone deaf
But also I don't to pretend to like his music
Or that I think that it's good
Please help with love, B
Sophie, no no we have to let Sophie go first
And you know that
I was just going to explain something
But yeah, go on
Okay
In the words of
I can't remember what they're called
In the words
In the words of
Perhaps Kirsten Dunst
Great
Be aggressive
Be aggressive
I don't think you can pussy foot around this
Yeah
I think you need to go hard
Because then it has a chance
Of being funny
But it just has to be true
That you hate his beauty
I just don't think you can try and soften the blow
I don't think you can say
I like
I think you have to be like
Whoa crazy that you're so
talented slash successful so like but i but in a way being like like i think you have to try and make
it funny that you hate it okay if you like him yeah be like i love me i don't know i love you but i
play with me okay um helen could you so you'd be the recording so you sing the song and you're
wearing a fedora and i'm watching you what listen to my yeah okay da da da da da da da da
nah na na na wow what is that is that your voice or is that an instrument
It's my voice instrument.
Okay, okay.
I cannot wait for your feedback.
It means so much to me.
Okay, my vagina just,
just felled up like a Venus flytrap.
But I wouldn't say that because I'm not unkind.
I'm just blunt.
Remain in the role play, please.
Sorry.
This is your music and I think.
And my soul.
Okay.
But I'm an atheist.
and I don't believe in souls or this being played audibly in public.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Good one, what did you really think?
Okay, but what I really think is that I'm not the person to judge it.
Because you like me so much that you can't but love it?
I like you so much that I think that
you should play it to other people.
Oh, they've all said it's amazing.
Oh, great.
My friends, my mom?
Well, I'm so glad that they like.
I thank you, and thank you for including me as well.
Of course.
So do you want to come to a gig?
I will come to the gig.
Amazing.
But I...
And then come from my music, am I right?
Okay.
I think, I don't want to see that much of your soul.
I would like
I don't
I think that
this felt very intimate
so we feel closer
yes
but I think that
this is a part of you
that I would just like
to turn away
I like I love that it's happening
but I would just like to turn away
your music is bad
there you go
thank you
okay I'm going to say
that as a non-option
no okay
but I will say
Catherine's musician boy
was really
not understanding
what was happening
I'm going to say
you say your music is bad
and then you say
to me
it's not objective
it's just bad to me
no you can't
I'm sorry you can't
I think can I say
well you go ahead
Helen because you've been waiting
I just think
honesty is not always
the best policy
like it is just your opinion
it doesn't mean the music is bad
it's just that you didn't like it
just go
great
great
like if I was going out
I think
what I was going to say
earlier is the reason we all had such an intense reaction to hearing that is because we are
technically artists and people that we date eventually do come and see us and there's a good
chance we're not their thing right so we know this we know the fear i don't think i don't think
you should date someone that doesn't that you're not their thing that's what i was going to say so
here's my thing my answer is door number three you have to break up there's like there's no way around
this if i never i i once dated somebody who objectively like told me in many ways and then like
sort of inadvertently, but ultimately it was so apparent,
did not like my comedy.
And it was so bad for my self-esteem and also
so bad for them because they didn't want to see it
and found every discussion of it deeply uncomfortable clearly.
And I just think like you cannot go out with somebody
whose art you do not respect.
And you can't be an artist who has a partner
who doesn't even like their art.
It's like you don't like them.
But my mom and dad,
you're divorced mom and dad.
Never mind.
I don't think.
It's hard not to do it in a nasty way.
But I think you could just say I think I took too long over it because, you know,
I was seduced by your eyes.
Yeah, yeah, obviously.
But I think you could just say, I hate it.
I think it's funny when like people have interest that they don't want to interact.
But if you, if you've said music is really important to me,
you've kind of shook yourself in the front.
If you were like, I just hate me.
music, then they're like, ha, ha.
And they bonded over it.
That's fine.
But if you've already established that you like music, I think it is.
Sweet B.
You can't just have opened with sweet guardian angels and we're like,
you got to crush this man and then ditch him.
You can't.
You can't.
Wait,
is music you don't like.
Does I miss something?
Is the music like the thing?
Is it like the job, the goal, the dream?
Or is it just like a side thing?
I assume just from the context that it's, oh, I compose music on the side.
And also, they said that they were tone deaf.
I think you could not, I can, I don't think he's tone deaf if he's making music, surely.
Oh, no.
Sophie, I'm going to remind you of early comedy days.
Okay, okay.
I think you can get better.
I think if it's something he can get better at.
If it's just like, he's not skilled.
Have you never seen someone where you're like, there's no hope here?
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
No, sorry.
Also, if you, just because they're making music, you can upload anything to Apple music.
If you search, like, a song that's going to have loads of covers, scroll right to the bottom and just find
amateur that's uploaded a cover to Apple Music and it's it's like oh no there's there
is no hope for some people I'm sorry sorry B sorry B but every art is worth
exploring and you can get better at anything you put your mind to apart from string
instruments and being tone deaf like I can't sing and that's okay that's just a fact
about me oh we're all very RIP good good luck with your um break up yeah we say
break up?
Get him to sing into your pussy before he goes.
Oh my God,
that's got to feel amazing.
Like the vibrato,
you get like a little shake on it?
And would you say like mouth over and then like do like,
uh,
okay,
I feel like this is a longer episode.
That should be a QQQ next time because that ain't it.
No,
but Catherine really think about it.
No.
I limp up.
No.
No.
No.
Andrew like no.
Sorry,
no.
I was just imagining the power of an op-trained singer just blasting it.
Oh, yeah, you're going straight inside up to the top
because it's all the same, right?
Oh, God.
Sophie, wow, thank you for the advice.
That's been incredible.
Would you do it face to face or by...
Yes.
Yeah, 100%.
100%.
That's tough, that's tough, that's tough.
Wow.
I'd say give him...
No.
Let him write three more songs.
Nope.
Because we've all done like terrible stuff
that we're not proud of.
Yeah, but now.
I think it's the fact that she's icked out by it.
Like, sometimes, like, the person I'm dating is bad and stuff,
but I find it sort of endearing.
Yeah.
And it's like, if you find it fun, we can do this because I'm not grossed.
He's like, it's weird that I'm not grossed out by it.
But I think that's also a new relationship energy.
You're grossed out in the early stages.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
When you also dislike them because they haven't picked up their towel or because they would,
oh my God.
You're going to be like, you're going to be like their towel and this day and age.
You're the one who dates men.
They don't.
They, I mean, they do.
they pick it up like everyone's got hooks
I don't know
I don't have hooks
Sunil hangs up his towel
I hang it on the door quite a lot
which is bad
I've got rail
but still you're still hanging it
yeah yeah
it's not on the floor
collecting or the floor dust
why is it dust on your floor
because we've got
linen sheets
and that creates dust
apparently it's the thing
you've got to dust
we've got to we must
you've got to dust
we must
thank you thank you Sophie Juga
I love how this turned into you
something about dusting
I know I'm so sorry
Sophie Juger
where can people find and see you
people can find and see me on my tour
What's your show called?
My show is called
But Daddy, I love her
We love it
That's how it's pronounced
And where are you going?
I'm going so many places
I don't know when this is coming out
But I will still be on tour
This Thursday
And then a couple of days away
Oh my God, okay
You can still catch me at Soho Theatre
Maybe
Just, just
I'm ending this week at Soho Theatre
Then I'm going to be in Brighton
Then I'm going to be in New York
Oh my god
International
Wow
They got yellow cabs all over the city
Not racist
Oh no what are you going to do
I know
I'm so excited for New York
It's going to be so much fun
And then next year there's going to be
dates all over the UK
But they can find tickets on
Sophieduca.com
Nice
Okay gorgeous
They can follow you on Instagram at
At Sophie Duke Box
Fabulous
And they can find you on X
at Sophie Dukebox
I don't really go on there
it's become sort of like a pit
I left it guys
you left
did you do a post being like
I'm leaving X
no I was just like
I'm fucking out
I just deleted
I need to do the same
it does really upset me
well Sophie Duke Box
on Instagram
sophydooker.com
Brighton
New York and beyond
but daddy
I love her
yeah
yeah okay I mean
it's sort of romantic
so I don't want to be read
by like a actual child
sorry but daddy
I love her
Hot, yeah.
Oh,
put it in the trailer, it's done.
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