Trusty Hogs - Ep192. AMY ANNETTE / Cricket, Cars and Workplace Crushes

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

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I'm a Helen Bauer! It's Chloe Pets! It's me, Chloe Pets. Woo-hoo! Chloe Pets, you've already done quite a Helen Bauer thing which is to announce to me which day of your period you're on. Number two. But I would say yesterday was sort of like a cold open so today we're very much going for the...

Did you find it in the piano in the living room saying something moody? It feels like a sort of... It feels like a day one slash two. Do you know what I mean? It doesn't feel like a strong two. Because it's sort of, well, what do you mean by a cold open? Do you mean it's sort of like when, it's sort of when I'm here, but it started moving towards the symptoms of I'm in pain.

Yes. And my mood is terrible. Yes. But then today it really came in with abundance. So are we calling that a two or are we calling that a one? 1.5, I think we are. Well, listen, great to keep it updated. Through the fog. Step forth the trusty hogs.

Yeah, you're going to give them your problems and they will solve them. Or maybe they won't and that's your problem. They'll have guests and Andrew White on the tech. Oh, it's Helen and Catherine as the trusty hogs. Trust the trusty hogs or maybe not. I can't, I'm not on my period, but I can't tell you I'm well, because this morning, honestly, on the way at the door, I was like, oh, it's too warm. And instead of changing tops, I took a shirt I've always loved and just cut the sleeves off.

What the fuck is wrong with you? And I really regret it. I panicked, you know. That's day-to-of-period behavior. It's mental. So you just went back and you cut the sleeves off? Yeah, and it was a terrible idea because I didn't even go by the seam. I've cut over the seam on one of them.

I like this shirt. I liked it with sleeves. It was secondhand. I found it in a vintage store in Brighton. not replacing, I can't replace it. Wow. Why have I done that? And I'll tell you what, I actually think had I not been wearing this shirt,

it would have been like one of those days I caught myself a fringe. So maybe it's best. Thank God. But, but may I restate the original question, W.T. Fath. Yes, you may. Thank you for asking. I don't really know, except that. That's unhinged.

Have you done something like that before? No, no. But I... Okay. Well, part of it I would like to blame Georgie for my good friend, Georgie, my good friend. My good friend. I should demoted her. my best friend, Georgie, who I saw do this to a shirt in when she came to see me in

Tenerife, but it's important to say that her shirt had a hole in it, and that's why she did it, very clever use of... And she probably did it across like the course of a couple of hours, rather than just leave the house, go back in, get the kitchen soon as in and fly. No, she was quite efficient about it too, but again, like she was fixing a problem rather than creating one. I would say that I'm living between two countries, as you know, at the moment, which not really, but you know what I mean? I think I'm just like between two spaces.

I've come from really hot weather. Currently when we were recording this, I know it's coming out on the 26th of June, but it's early June and we're having weird sort of rain cloud warm mist. It's difficult to know what's going on yet. Certainly. And I don't know what to tell you, man. I guess I'm an actor now.

I guess I make crazy decisions. Yeah, that is mad. But I think... Is this my Britney moment? This is like me at the... It's me shaving my head. Yes. And I think you've...

probably chosen the better option of shaving the head because as we know your hair is one of your biggest assets but your sleeves aren't and I think you could be okay with that I think I think you've done a good job where you've like you haven't cut on the seam which means that you can go back and do a better job later would you like to see the back though what have you done don't be quiet you look quite mask from the back now that you've done that it's really funny you said that. I'm feeling really mask at the minute. That's cool. What's happened? I don't know. I'm just enjoying wearing

mask clothes in a way. And Ellen said it to me then I sort of took offence a bit. I was like, not offence at being masked, but I was sort of like, no, I'm not. And then I was like, maybe I I don't, I can't tell if it's that I'm enjoying what I'm certainly, what is certainly true is I'm enjoying wearing oversized clothes in a big way at the moment. Is that

because you're upset all the time to you? Is that feeling mask or is that dysmorphia? Who knows? It's a perennial question. Is it just because you're on set all the time and you're like conscious of the gaze of the camera? Maybe. I think it's also I've been in a very warm country and everything's kind of like a bit exposing

and I'm just like, ah. Also, I don't know. I don't know. I do feel much better in like sort of oversized things at the minute and I can tell you away. May we go back? What were the sleeves like before? Lovely.

They really couldn't have been better. Short, long. Long but with a lovely roll-up and a silk climbing so the roller poles looked wicked. Oh dear. No, I've fucked it. But you've got two options now. You can either go,

you can either wear it like a tank top or you can just wear the sleeves. I could get the sleeves back out the bin. Oh, get them out of the bin. So they back on. Do you think? So them back on? I can't even say...

It took me an hour to put this button on earlier. I was going to leave without one. What? Hang on, the plot thickens. So you left the house and you'd spent an... hour sewing the button on. Maybe I'm an hour but like a solid 20. And then you went back and just went, oh, it's too warm out there. And cut the... I know. I know. I really know. Should we be

worried? Um, I don't think so yet. Okay. Definitely stay near your phone. I'm going to stay, I'm going to stay alert. Yeah, please be on your phone. I'm going to be vigilant. It's so nice to have you here, Chloe Pets, because, as you know, I don't, I won't, and never have I ever, listened to my own podcast. Yes. And so, um, a sweet thing about you is that you do listen to this podcast. And how's it been going while I've been away? Uh, well, listen. Sophia, the producer, just absolutely burst out laughing, which makes me very nervous. Sophia, were you here for the, the Tim Kee, Sam, Campbell, Helen Bauer? I'm going to call it a debacle. It was, I'm, I'm, I'm going to say this

and I'm going to I'm not going to, I'm not going to temper my language. It was unlistenable. Really? It was fucking unlistenable. As you know, I think of the podcast that way always, but I really appreciate that we have so many incredible listeners who disagree with me on that. The sheer number of people

who've asked me if I've listened to it has made me concerned. But it was like, it was three incredibly high status comedies. who all like you can't tell whether what they're doing is a bit or whether it's their personality and all of their bit slash personalities is incredibly high status yeah so usually what they need is like a normal like me or you or a low status to come in and sort of bully but everyone kind of finds their position yeah whereas it was three incredibly high status people

none of them willing to compromise just shouting babes at each other and no one ever settled so if there were three sentences that added up to a whole conversation in the whole of that podcast episode I would be very surprised Wow

At one point Tim Key just went to Sam Campbell Lick my bruise Huh? Did it have context? Yes supposedly but I wouldn't have been able to explain the content The context was that he'd made Sam lick his bruise earlier so it was a call back to the first lick. Wow.

Catherine, this podcast needs you. Oh, that's so nice to hear. Honestly, that's all I really wanted to hear. I'd actually hate if it was like, it was a very balanced episode and we didn't see it sound any different to usual. I'd be like, the fuck. So I'm glad it was chaos.

Yeah. And fair play to Helen. She really, like, I personally would say, took on a pair there, quite a handful of boys. Yeah. She had a got to. Fair blighter.

She did have a go. I'll give her. Yeah, I don't care. But, like, her methods of manipulation didn't work on them. Really? Because every time she tried to have a tantrum, they just sort of, I don't know, like, I don't know, what was off of you? Like, she would have a tantrum and then, but they would give it no power.

Usually, like, if it's to a boy, like a Senil Patel or like a Nathan Dicey Roberts, they'll, they'll immediately go, oh, emotion, appease, appease. whereas the boys were just like bully harder wow really really odd oh my god well well i mean if she couldn't temper them i don't know who would but fair play for having to go helen i think you could i think it's you that we need oh that's so kind of you to say that's so kind of you to say and how is helen obviously i only find out of the podcast i'm also desperate to know what's going on with she seems good i'm so glad you did an episode together right we did an episode together yeah okay she asked me questions she's been listening yeah she's so good she asked me questions and then i got

bit tired and I really like being around Helen because when you're tired you just you can just sit she's so good she'll bring the energy absolutely I wonder if um if it's enjoyable for the listener that I need a recap on the podcast I'm sorry guys I just needed a previously on trusty hogs Helen's well the boys are mad I'm glad I'm here you you were tired but you got through it you're on day 1.5 of your period let's do this thing now go on here's another here's something I like to bring to you Oh. I'm doing a run at the Soho Theatre this week. Obviously, I won't be by the time this comes out.

But funny you should say that, because I was in Soho, saw your face with Ellen, and then it said, More dates added due to demand in this huge poster. And then Ellen said, must be nice. And it was very fun, because that's a catchphrase of her brothers. And yes, then we kept saying, must be nice. And it was very funny. And we had a great time. And yes, you are there.

And how exciting. Okay, so go on. So I go into the dressing room and it smells of boys. We're recording this on a Tuesday. You will have been up in only for your first night last night. And it stinks already day one. Absolutely reeks. It's a group of boys called Pear.

I've never heard of that before. Like the fruit? Yes, like the fruit. They might be nice. They're very tall. Are they nice? Do we know them? Boy, they seem lovely.

I didn't really have a chance to talk to them because I was like maniacally teckin between their show and mine. yeah but um they seem lovely but it smelled like farts and lynx africa and i sort of came in and was like oh that's different to how it usually is fairly they were lovely and then they they they'd left their stuff in sort of just like the way that boys do you know a shirt over here a slipper over there a toothbrush on the side a toothbrush on the side and i was like that's fine like you know it's our dressing room you organize how you like but they're not i would not have had that reaction. I'd have been like, I brought you your own dividers to put your

things in. That's label stuff. Also like, how do you dissipate the fart smell? Oh, is that why this you're bringing this up? The question is for Catherine. No, that's not, but that's the side quest. Okay, side quest is you could bring a scented candle with you, but I think they have a smoke alarm. I often bring a, um, Joe Earl of East, sorry to say this, but you know Earl of East, the candle company. Yeah. They do. Well, I said yeah, I don't, but I do now. Okay, there's an early-ease candle company who do a very cheap car freshener that smells divine wildflower is cold and I bring a few of them some places so I can put them in place and it gets a lovely smell without having to light anything or what and you sort of just like flap it round like

you're at a Catholic church doing incense I genuinely do and I also would get those doors open as much as you can the one to the stage and the one to the yeah but it's like really a case of like into the dungeon or out to the bathroom so you're not going to get a huge movement of air are you Are you in downstairs? I'm in downstairs, yeah. It's very farty. But anyway, that's a shame.

I do my tech, and then amongst the chaos, I see a pink book. Novel, not novel, like just a book. And I see that it's Vogue Williams' book. And I look in...

Motor meth. Big mouth? Big mouth. Please don't... I should stop guessing before it gets offensive. I love Vogue Williams. Fucking ugly mouth.

Disgusting. It's a lovely mouth. It's called Big Mouth. Okay. As is one of my favorite cartoons. I'm loving the new season. Seven or eight? The latest, the actual latest one.

Eight. Yes, very good. And did you do all of the human resources as well? Of course. Where the hell is the rest of it? We only had two seasons. It will come next. Okay, thank God.

Yeah. Guys, separate thought to Vogue Williams having a lovely mouth and a book called Big Mouth. Is that the cartoon Big Mouth? Very enjoyable. Let's come back to that. so because I would like to talk more about that series me too so I open this book just to like have a look through we're big readers you and I if you see a book you're going to have a flip

oh we can read now listen I open it and inside the book it says dear Chloe huh like handwritten in the book she's written dear Chloe right Vogue Williams has Vaux Williams the book I open it to the page handwritten in shrill. Well, wait, where did you find this book? Was it a skew to the side? But just like on the, you know, there's like,

um, there's three tables in that, that dressing room. Yes, in front of mirrors. Yeah. On, so you've got the table there by the sink. Yeah. And then you've got the two tables there. It was on this table, sort of just amongst the boy stuff. So I thought, oh, interesting that one of these boys is reading Vogue,

Williams's book. Just going to pick that up. They've left it. Someone's forgotten their book. Yeah. I open it and it says, dear Chloe in it. Huh. And then I'm thinking, has Vogue Williams left the copy of her book in my dressing room so that I can read it?

And has she had to smell all these farts? Poor Vogue! Well, I don't think she would have come directly to my dressing room and put it there. I think she would have... Left it at reception, someone would have brought it down for you. Yeah. Okay. But then the thing that is written in it is, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

I couldn't miss this opportunity to give you a copy of my book, Vogue. Have you been on her podcast? I've never met her in my life. But wait, who's the other Chloe then? I don't know. But it's not for me, is it? Because it was sat in my dressing room. Are you booked to go on her podcast?

I've never... But there's no other Chloe's in comedy, are there? The way you said that, you're a little bit annoyed actually. Yeah, a little bit annoyed actually. Well, the thought that there might be. Yeah, that there might be. But there's no other Chloe. Chloe Radcliffe.

Chloe Radcliffe Stuart Lawsie's girlfriend Okay She was in the week before Was she on the podcast? Maybe, shall I Google it? Please! Oh this is actually

I thought it was going to be more of a mystery Well yeah because you really set it up as a mystery And it turns out it's just a memory game Where you try to remember if you know another Chloe And the answer is yes you do Actually know another Chloe But then But date 1.5 of your period

Mysteries are going to be like this They're going to be like do I know a person Yeah, I do. But then we have to sorry no please cough it up I'm living with a cat currently and I'm not responding well are you living with a cat yeah and the cat fucking loves me

and I fucking love the cat oh do you but your lungs are giving Mr Burns yeah I'm so allergic but I love to put my face on it oh that's so cute anyway has she done Vogue Williams podcast have you found out yet where's Vogue Williams can eat her but then that means that Chloe Radcliffe

just left her fucking book in there. But that might have been a mistake. So, yeah, we are just racking out Chloe. Chloe Radcliffe was there on Thursday the 15th to Saturday, the 17th of May. Have you Googled if she's done Vogue Williams podcast? So then I go, Chloe Radcliffe. Vogue Williams.

And while you do that, may I take this juncture to say that I worked with Vogue, I've worked with her twice. And both times, she has been an absolute delight. She's a lovely, lovely, lovely woman who's very kind and good at her job. And you don't think you're so fit. You don't have to be this nice. And yet she is. I like that in a person.

It would be so nice if she would invite me onto her podcast and give to me her book. To be fair, you're on my podcast right now and spending all of your time talking about her, so I can't really advocate for you as a guest. Her mouth is so lovely. It is lovely. I'll go on her podcast and talk about your mouth for the whole duration if you want. I really appreciate that, but it better be complimentary. Lovely mouth, that's so.

Okay, thanks. That's kind. Now you're looking at my mouth too much. And what I feel. Sorry. Sorry. So have you found out of Chloe Radcliffe was on the podcast? She's not been on it.

What the hell? Should I call Chloe? Yes, we need to solve this immediately. Okay, hang on one sec. Is this the kind of thing people are looking for? I don't think this is good. I don't think this is good. I've never even messaged Chloe.

You can't be calling her. Do you think I can't? I think it's mad to non-consensually call her from this podcast. Do you know that's Matt? Should I call Stuart Law with her partner? thing like socially like if she made a social faux part it's a little exposing

but me and Stuart laws are really close you could a hundred people call Stuart what about Chloe Red I'll ask her after why don't you ask her and we'll find out and then put it in the extras yeah all right yeah do you want me to do it now

sign up to the Patreon for this mystery to be solved please ask her now immediately I thought this was going to be like a fucking Poirot I thought it's more of a poll if I might honest. A Paul? Yeah. What's a Paul? It's like what I imagine

like a dollar episode, like a dollar detective then Poirot to be called. Do you think he would just be called Paul? Yeah. Just going around, why is this book in this room? Oh, never mind. I remember. Why is this book in this room? I figured it out. Figured it out. Someone put it there.

Yeah, that kind of gear. It's really good stuff. So do you, that's our prevailing theory at the moment. That it was for Chloe Radcliffe but Chloe Radcliffe doesn't seem to have been on but maybe it's yet to be released why don't you well yes

we could be getting a preview to potential guests for the should I just should I just cold message Chloe saying have you been on Vogue Williams's podcast yes cold messenger and Paul would also have a like colleague a sort of

board Irish partner who Paul says things like shall we just find that should we just ask why it's here and then the guest the colleague says yeah all right and wow

those guys are a hoot people watch them every day after Judge Judy that's why I reckon we would be on the line up so what am I writing oh to the cold message to Chloe yeah

hey Chloe little mystery here hello me mystery mystery mystery over here yeah mystery over here pal

mystery over here bit of Chloe confusion I wonder some Chloe confusion yeah no this is mental yeah I agree This is, I'm just going, I'm sitting, sitting in this chair, I'm not going to behave like Helen Bauer.

You're actually behaving like me right now. My brother often will listen to me voice note people and be like, please stop, just stop five minutes ago. Stop five minutes ago. So yeah, you can just be like. Hello, mate. Weird question, but have you been on Vogue Williams's podcast? Because there was a book for a Chloe. No, I'm not, I think if we over explain at this point.

No, that question's mad. No, because it could be like, because I've been. booked and blah blah blah I'll do it after no no message now we're desperate to know but saying what Paul I have to know the answer

to this mystery just say have you been on have you been on on voice noting thank you and do I explain everything or do I just just simply ask

if she's been on Vogue Williams podcast well I just typed that then Halema weird question have you been on Vogue Williams's podcast this by the way

is me sending every text message this level of thought I'm like So don't worry On Vogue Williams's Where you put that apostrophe? I know where I'm putting that apostrophe

Okay, just checking After the S Very nice Thank you Very nice That's it Hello mate, weird question Have you been on Vogue Williams' podcast?

Lovely, lovely bit of business Back to this podcast Which you are on Well, you just mentioned your brother How's he getting on? Now, a little bit of intel For the listener in case you're already too riveted.

Hold on to your hats kids. Chloe and I both have a brother called Peter. It's a different guy. They're two Peters. Different Peters. Different Peters. My Peter's well, thank you very much.

He's still taking care of us to rescue chihuahuas. Oh, that's cute. Wonderful Pipp and Max, nice little guys. Yeah, he's grand. He's gotten really to running. His Strava's a bit obnoxious,

you know, when you're like, it's just a lot of action. He's really out there. He's running. And is he like, is he spelling, out like condescending messages where he's been where he's with in his injury recovery journey he's dropping in weights routines he's doing a bit of cycling every now and then he's with

people he's out and about it's really impressive stuff you can tell he lives by the sea he's very healthy and how old is he now I guess if I'm 36 that guy must be 31 or 2 32 I think it starts happening to bloats around that time but he's still got all of his hair very impressive so there's no need to be doing all this exercise but Is he feeling good? Is he feeling good for it? Yeah, I'm sure it's good for me. He's having a lovely time.

But he's great. Is the answer he's great? Still funny. How's your Peter? He's a laugh, yeah. He started working. Well, we're very proud of him, actually, because he's a car salesman.

He is indeed, he sold me my car. Sold you your car. And you get on very well. Oh, yeah, we're only texting the other day because I'm coming up to the third year of my loan. It's time to figure out if I'm going to refinance or if I'm going to switch vendors. You're out to call me to talk through the text. Like, I just, no, I don't know.

Is it cool. text your brother if I'm like hey Peter but it's like it's Catherine it's not Chloe because maybe she texts you like this and hey um what should I do by my car no actually I text him to see if there was a good time to call him to talk about potentially whether or not I should change vendors of my car and have you called him no we're sorting out of time to talk fantastic great well anyway he's he was at Kia yes and he wasn't having the best time at Kia was he not not the best I'm not going to go into it too much because I don't want to chat shit is not my story to tell. However, I think my brother's always liked a bit of confidence. He's an absolute

great guy. He likes a bit of confidence. And he went for a job at Mercedes and was thinking, oh, maybe I'm not good enough to like make the leap from from Kia to Mercedes. He got the job. He's absolutely hazing it. Top salesman. Acing it. I think he said he's absolutely hating it. And I was like, no. No, he's acing it. Top salesman. And he just, he's always just like zooming around and these beautiful ladies cars. Yes, Peter. He's driving me in a couple of weeks. He's booked a day off work so that he can drive me to a gig in Andover and then drive me to perform at a music festival like a couple of hours after. And he was like, yeah, yeah, I'll just ask a boss if I can get you

an amazing Mercedes S class to drive you around it. I don't know what that means, but apparently it's a great car. It's a great car and he's so cool for doing this. What a legend. So he's going to show for me. Okay, well, in the meantime, he's going to talk me through my Pip loan and what the hell to do about it. Is he good at explaining things to you? Yeah, he's great. Fantastic. Not least because I'm like, come here to me.

I can't get this door open and he's like, so you're going to want to put that key in the door and I'm like, wicked. This guy's a genius. Yeah, he's a great guy. He's really my dad in the UK when it comes to cars and I'm very grateful to him for it. Now listen. If anyone ever needs, if anyone's ever missing like a dad figure, then my dad or my brother

always up for grabs and they're fantastic dad figures that's so nice if you ever need anything if you ever need a boy or a man then the problem is I really believe everything Peter says

about cars so there's a considerable chance that next time you see me I'll be like roaming around in a car and paying way too much money and being like it's my Mercedes S class and you'll be like you can't parallel park

and I'll be like it's close enough it's not Legally, they will not be able to get by. But the thing is as well, like, if you, the thing about my brother is, if you genuinely called him up as like, I can't open the car, he would then come back to me, but I spoke to your mate Catherine the other day and I'd be like,

oh, what did she want? And he would go like, oh, she's just having a bit of problem getting into her car. He would never like take the piss and be like, shh, dumb bitch, you don't know how to put the key in the door. Oh, he's so nice. He's just a really good guy. They would get on, I think, our brothers.

They'd have a great time in a football match together. My brother gets on with everyone, so does yours. And I think those qualities together, they're just going to be like... Oh, what if they hated each other? What if it was like nemesize? I really couldn't see a world in which that would happen. No, either kind. My brother, because you could see a world in which like someone would be envious of a quality

that someone else possesses that is their main quality. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, the sentence made sense. But did the sentiment of the sentence makes it? I think so. again. Would you, would you like to? Yeah. Go on. So. Have another crack. Imagine you've got a quality that you're like largely praised for. Yes. And then you see that quality. So harsh to say imagine. Imagine if you had any likable traits whatsoever.

Imagine people like one single thing about it. Okay. So far, really glad we're redoing this sentence. Yeah, I can fathom it. Go on. Can I also just say disclaimer. I've, there's so much more of your stuff that I want to laugh at, but my laughs at the moment, uh, resulting in massive coughing fits. So if I'm holding back, then I apologize. That's such a sweet thing to say. That's like sometimes when I take my antidepressants, I can't cry. And so I have to say when I would be otherwise crying to Ellen. Should I just say laugh? Yes. I'll just be like crying. It's totally normal and nice guys. Go on. Right. So imagine if you have a wonderful quality. Yeah. Hang on. Okay. I can imagine. You got it. And then someone else

praise is someone else possesses that quality and gets a lot of praise for it there's a world in which you could feel intimidated because it's like but that wonderful quality is my thing whereas I think wrapped up in both of our brothers wonderful qualities is a total lack of ego that means that they wouldn't have that with each other they would just be like oh this is so nice that we've met another likable one I really agree I really agree yeah but also like my brother has this amazing and I would be surprised if yours doesn't too my brother has this amazing skill where he makes every man no matter how some like that man feel like the biggest like dude in the world like they're always like every every dude I know thinks Peter is their best he's like they all

refer to him as their best friend because he makes him feel like an absolute legend and it's like oh no he just he's fun and you feel fun by proxy and that's so cute and sweet but I wonder if you put them together if our brothers would get an ego because they'd be like, whoa, I feel like I'm so cool because this guy likes me. But who's to say? Anyway, there's a social experiment that really only we have any interest in. And on that note, laugh. On that note, shall we bring on our guests? Yay! Oh, she's a good one. She's lovely. And she's recently cut a fringe. So let's see what's going on with her. I was there. Where are you? When you cut the fringe? Well, I'd love to hear about that. Let's find out if everything's okay with a tremendous Amy Annette.

Wow, I'm just putting together my list of shows to go see in Edinburgh. I'll definitely go see Helen. I'll definitely go see Andrew. You better believe Amy Annette's on that list. But wait a minute. Does this little guy have a show? Yeah. Chloe Pets, what's your show called? Big naturals. Amazing. Amazing. Where is it? Pleasant's 4th at 7 p.m. It's the same place I did last year. I think it's the best room in the whole of the fringe because people put their coats on to watch it because it's so well air conditioned. Whoa, that's a really big selling point actually. So no one ever gets drowsy. Okay, so big naturals, but with a little bit of a hard Mip. How exciting. Don't mind if we do. Can I

have that? Yeah, you can. Can I open with that? Of course you can. Now tell me, it's on at 7 o'clock. People can buy tickets where? Just type Chloe Pets Edinburgh Fringe and to Google, Chloepets.org. They're also there, my Instagram. Fuck. Chloe Pets. Just where, you know. But get on it, lads because Chloe sells fast. And I know that you all love the fringe. And 7 p.m's a competitive time. So get booking. And it's going to be good, isn't it? When I bought my last car, I felt totally overwhelmed. Is this the right price? Can I trust this listing? But this time around, I used car gurus. And honestly, it changed everything.

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let me have a little bit of that. Here we are with Amy Annette and Chloe Pets and Chloe Pets is diluting. I'm not. Oh you're not? No I want a bit of both of your drinks but separately. Oh. Is that all right?

For me, it doesn't make a difference. But then maybe I'll dilute with the spark. This is a juicy juice that just has sparkleys in it. So to me, add a sparkle. But isn't it like when you have toast and you put butter and peanut butter on, you're just diminishing the peanut ratio? Or make it more delicious. I was with Amy.

I put bar on my peanut bar on toast. Yeah, that sounds great. Amy Annette, welcome. Hello. Just for the listener, what kind of fizzy's juicy, bubbly bits have you, have you So I've gone to something, Hibiscus and Rose, and you were really shocked

by, within the choices available to me that I went for that one. I was so shocked. You actually audibly went, that one? I did. Yeah. What were the options? There was too many options.

That was number one. We're talking peach. We're talking Yuzoo. We're talking pineapple. We're talking orange. We had blood orange. There was all sorts down there. And do you want Hibiscus and Rose?

And I thought, Grandma. Grandma, Habiscus? Grandma, Habiscus. You sure, that? What kind of grandma? You got herbiscus. Rose, shrew. Sure, yeah, yeah.

How is it? Delicious. Delicious, yeah. I haven't actually tried it, yeah. You do have a sort of wise beyond your year's demeanor. Thank you. Have you been told that before? Yes.

Yeah, I've always feel like it's not, I know it's a compliment, but I, but it is, it is obviously, in course, it's trauma. Can you translate? Can you translate it? Compliment. That's friend for insult to my face. And thank you for that. So, tell us more about this trauma.

My trauma. Well, I've always been third. 38 in my heart and I'm getting close to that age. I honestly don't know what will happen when I... Kelle is at you? Yes. 30. Tronte cease.

Okay. We're the same age. Yeah. Yeah, but we... I've always been told I have like a... I'm like a 70 at heart. Yes. So 38 is fine, I think.

Well, I just more mean when I was about 20, early 20s, I really felt like I was heading towards my 30. I was like already there. Interesting. I really got... I mean, it was slightly because of like weight stuff, but I got into cause. because cause could get quite cool clothes. So I'd save my money and I'd get like a directional blazer, you know.

And I would wear these clothes and I own them all now because I'm now the right age. Cars is going to age you. Cars is going to age a girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're going to be wearing sort of gallery owner. Yes. Sheikery. Yeah, if you look like you are, you should probably have like square rim glasses.

Oh, I think you look lovely with the square room glasses. Do you think? Yeah, I think you would, yeah. I think I'd look like a character. But not a bad one. Not a bad one. Edna Mode. Edna Mode from The Incredibles.

You know her. Darling. Yeah, yeah, I do know. But I don't think you look like that. I think you look really nice. Thank you. Like a nice character. Oh.

Here's a good question. And we will be opening all of our questions with an assessment of the question. Go ahead, Chloe. This is a good one. Uh-huh. What do you think your... I'm going to say spirit. I think that's okay to say yeah what do you think your spiritual age is which is

whatever age are that is the age you are spiritually wow a question if wasn't that a good question 65 such a good question yeah tell same more I don't that's you've what are you hiding there because that's wrong do you think yeah what age do you think I am younger than that really because 65 powerful absolutely powerful I know why you're saying that that's someone completely, the estrogen has gone, they don't give a shit anymore. You're right, she's Morty's than I am. Morty's. I know what you're looking for, but I actually think you're going to achieve that 47.

I was between 48 and 53. Yeah. Well, sorry, I thought it was a question where Amy didn't know it. I was going to make my tea leaves red. Fine. Okay, so I'm actually 47. Well, I know why you're saying 65 and no shade to 65. I just think you're going to achieve what you believe that is so soon.

really i do feel like relatively ready to do a triathlon i'm having this last burst of ambition but no clarishing where to place it last burst i'm 36 and um yeah okay it just no you're probably right it probably is younger probably don't have the self-knowledge that i think i do no and you're right and i'm feeling bad now i'm feeling terrible don't feel bad about you said something and i said no i don't think she's 65 either no no but i think the interesting and that's why it's such a great question. Who answers this question? It's because the question about the spiritual age is because you've

got multiple things you can discuss your perception of what you think it is what your friends think that you are. You're right, it really has layers. Are you pitching a new pod? Yes. Yeah. What spiritual age do you think? What's spiritual age do you think? I think it's tough question. Yeah. You had no problem answering it from me, a woman

you've met seven times. But I think what are you more than seven times? Do you think eight? Well, we're slamming each other because we love each other. That's my other. That's my other podcast how many times have we met each other um okay you're 65 i no no i like you you're right you know i ultimately agreed with you what is your spiritual age fucking else stop being so fucking polite to each other everything's fine sorry okay i think you're an interesting case amy yeah i don't know what i am either you're you are around the age that is your spiritual age

so i think you're coming into my jesus year your jesus year much after it yeah yeah i think that's right yeah And I think it's beautiful to see a person at their spiritual age. I love this question. It is, you do have also just a beautiful tenor to your voice that I think speaks to like a sort of spirituality that I think be fits this age too. Oh.

I think 38 is going to be, is your spiritual age. Two more years. And then you're going to peek. And then I'm done. And I'd actually love to be done actually. So that'd be fine. Wouldn't it be so nice to be cooked? Oh my God.

How much? It'd be more ways can women get better. Right. Oh, Jesus. Surely we're fixed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The last glimmers of ambition in my heart is the only thing keeping me going. And it's like, stop.

Yeah, I'd love to stop. Yeah, I'd love to stop. I think we're similar on that front. Yeah, it's like, surely you've got to be. It's makeup in the morning. I look in the mirror. I'm like, yeah, I guess I'm going to put makeup on because I just want to want it to fuck me. I've got a long-time boyfriend.

What am I doing? Yeah. I don't know. The world. I want the world to fuck me, I guess so. I don't. No. I don't.

Nor I. Just a little kiss on the cheek. Here's a less interesting, but ultimately late question. Oh. it begins with a salutation hello hello and it's followed by how the hell are you amianette i'm okay thank you so much for having me this is so nice it's so nice to have you know this podcast i have but it wasn't in this gorgeous room it was in a shipping container it wasn't our shipping container and i believe it was helen it was you know i don't believe you were there i wasn't there no in spirit but

chloe has like a weirdly um weirdly intimate knowledge of every single thing that's happened on the podcast and the way that i don't remember anything it's really strange yeah yeah where does that come from Listening to it. Listening to it. Being a fan. Being a fan. And also, like, I think what's good is I get revision as well because then when I then meet up with Catherine or Helen after, I get the same stories again.

So I'm getting double. Oh, that's nice. So it's like, it's really going in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, to be friends. Savage. To be friends with your fans. That's crazy for you.

And that's how I think of Chloe. Yeah, my best. What's your spiritual age? Well, it's difficult because I feel like Helen Bauer would say that I'm a 14 year old boy. year nine but she negging you i think that i think she nagging me there yeah she'll want to kiss you yeah maybe um i want that's a lovely tall kiss it would be oh yeah when we greet we do kiss directly on the mouth does she do that with vibe review i'm too short oh okay she sometimes kisses me on the forehead or and then points to her forehead to be kissed there she'll touch her boob and then touch

my boob but i that feels more like a sort of greeting of old friends like the lesbian nod like a lesbian nod you. Right, yeah. We'll fully tongue. Friends of your fans, I get it. Nice. It's lovely. I don't know, maybe 40. Spiritual age is tough, isn't it? Because the question is, is it what you are right now in your heart? Or is it what, when you are at your best? Like, is it... I think it's just like, perennially what age do you seem? At whatever age you are,

what age do you see? Yeah. Yeah. It depends on the day for me. I think if my, like there's a period of time in the month where I guess my estrogen drops, so I imagine what will be the level it will drop when I fully hit the maniport. Yeah. And the, the, the, the, I cannot tolerate anything or anyone. Right. Especially with love. With love, man. And with love to them. Yeah. And I do sometimes feel that feeling and go, who, it's going to be crazy when I hit that, when I, when my estrogen is gone. I might have to get patches. I think, I think. I think. I think. you want to move to a farm yeah patches just to deal with men just you're on the phone to

man be like one moment please whack it on back it on yeah i am can you bring up a very interesting point um you can have interesting points as well as interesting questions that's something we should know for the chat we're having yeah yeah yes which is that um every time a woman says something like you've just said i think god i don't know anything about my body like not a fucking thing i just ordered a podcast i just ordered a podcast i just ordered a book that's okay you're spiritual i hadn't Spiritual ages back up to 65. Yeah. I've just ordered a podcast. I've just ordered a podcast on the interweb.

I've just ordered an actual book. And it's called Not Just a Period because I was like, I'm heading for 40 and I have no idea what's going on with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And for 10 years I didn't have a period because I had the coil. And now it's back and I'm like, what is all this? I know it's different every week, but I don't know why. And then all of my friends are talking about having children

and they're saying, like wild words, like Lutio phase. Oh, yeah. That doesn't seem like any of my business, but I would like to know what it's up with it. It's very good ones. you learn that that yeah and actually I don't know that from people having babies I know it from TikTok and it's from the TikToks and the TikToks are telling me that you're a very different person depending where you are in your cycle so I'm hearing and there are the seasons have you heard of the

seasons no that's what they say on TikTok I thought you'd pick it up and know what I was and run with it no and I'm so sorry I didn't but I also don't know like which foods you're meant to be eating blah blah but listen I'm not saying that I necessarily want to learn about it so that I can solve for another thing about myself I would just be interested I'm like curious and I don't know that I want to learn about my body from the TikToks. And that's truth. So you've just printed out the TikToks and pop them in a book? I hope this lady has.

Yes. She seems like it. She's adopted. What would you do if it was a book and it was just screenshots of TikTok? I'd be so fucking relieved. I could read them with pride on the train. For once I could enjoy myself and my goddamn TikToks that I'm feeling self-conscious. That'd be lovely actually. Okay, fantastic. Well,

Hello? Is there somebody at our door? Come in. Hello? A hug? Is it Helen? Andrew. It's Andrew White coming in the middle of this and interrupting this. Andrew, hello. Can you believe?

Thank you very much. Thank you. I'm such a fan of Andrews. I'm a bit starstruck to see you actually. Oh, thank you. That's very sweet. I appreciate that. I love that. I absolutely love that Andrew interrupted our conversation about the female reproductive system and our bodies. How very dare you? No, that's great. Welcome. Please welcome.

Um, Amy and Ash, can I give you my present? Oh my God, that was so cute, yes. Are you just, is it? Am I just going to kiss you full on the mouth like Helen does? Well, it looks like you're just going to flip us the word. Oh. Can I give you a present?

You've been hurt before. You've been hurt before. No, I've done a lot of hurting. You've done a lot of hurting. Yeah, I've done a lot of them. Well, do you want to have some context for the listeners that you've just been to Copenhagen? Copenhagen. Why were you there?

I say. I was being employed by. my long-time lover, Nish Kumar, to open for him on his Euroscandy tour. NEPO lady? Yeah. Can it be NEPO lady? Can it be NEPO woman? No.

Can it be? Oh, I was fully joking. I thought NEPO was kids, but it must just be anything. Oh, I'm sure it is. And I was only just joking, really, because. Oh, no. And I'm sorry. Because if you live full time with Nish Kumar, you at the very least deserve the open spot on his

20 minutes. I need 20 minutes of my own time. Of your own time. not listening to that guy talk in front of Danish people no we turned into like a sort of von trap family without the many children and but with lots of Nazis oh my god would not just because Nish talks about the Nazis they're back they're I don't want to spoil his comedy show for you guys they're back but we went to Copenhagen we went to our orhus we went which is also in Denmark and we went to Oslo and we went I love also

it's also amazing why is it so gorgeous I don't know I didn't know what he tells us. I know they're all so cheery and I think it's because they're so hot. Yeah, they're so hot. And they know they're hot. Even the Uggos in all of these countries are hot. I said that multiple times on the train. I was like,

even the least fit people here are the most fit people I've ever seen in my life. I had the experience in Oslo where I was walking around during the daylight where fuck all the all the hot people is everyone promised me there was going to be hot people and then it got to 5.30, everyone left work. All of the tourists went into dinner and I was like, there's the fucking hot people. I was just knocking around with other Brits. Yeah, it's the Norwegians. And they all wear monochrome and it's all so sexy.

So good. And they, because it was raining a lot, I've never seen such chic rain gear. Really? How are they doing chic and rain? Like a sort of a trench, but with a sort of popped collar, but not posh English. Oh, it was exciting to see. So, of course, came back from the airport this morning. I got to get my friends.

A togloch. Oh my God, you didn't. This is so nice. Also, I don't know how I secreted it across my body to sit down without you, no point it. Did it go up the ar? Sorry, not to be Helen about this, but thanks for Gifty,

where's Catherine? I nearly got to you. She tried to upsell me, but I said no. We are so grateful, and it's so funny because yours says big thanks. Yeah. But really the big thanks are all yours are ours.

Yes. And thank you so much. I'll take it back then. No, why don't we share it? Can we have a bit now? Yes, we can. I really want a bit now. But in the words of the,

last Danish guest we had on this podcast, which is when I offered Sophie Hagan some food that they brought us at the time. No, where I'm working. Oh. We'll just do this podcast I'm doing. And then we'll share the Toblerone. I saw Sophie. In Golly and God sang good.

Did you? How are they? And they didn't say anything as sassy to them like that to me. Yeah, it was really out of character and that's why it was so funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm working. Yeah, it was very, very funny while Helen and I stuffed our faces. Oh, yeah.

Can I open it and get it prepared for when we're not working? Close on her. period and I think you can tell get it out, get it started, let's get it going. Andrew, would you like some Tobleron? I would love some Tobleron. Why did you get Tobleron and I have to work? Because I'm star-struck by Tobleron.

Andrew. I'm going to say Toblochon. Tobloor. If you play your card's right, you could get a full-mouth kiss off Andrew. I don't think you can promise that on his behalf. They do that on this podcast. That's one of the...

Only two people have ever redeemed it. What are you talking about? Oh yeah I see the other one Like obviously I'm going to be Yeah I'm going to be one of them

Yeah God Well you're starting And I can see you Helen Bauer Times 2 Helen Bauer times 2 Of course

Well and it's Helen Bauer Who's full frontal Snogging Clow as well Full frontal snogging Is that a thing people say I don't know It felt very naked

Andrew Thong Andrew Thong Yeah Angus I'd be not a Blaine Andrew Thong Bracket Yeah

Full frontal Snogin That would be so funny if you thought that that was Angus's phone name. His name is Angus Thong. His name is Angus Thong and Full Front of Snuggik. Yeah. Angusong and the full frontal snogging. Yeah.

Quadruple barrel. Yeah. It's lemony snicket and the blubbleblah. Angusong and the hubby de hermit. Yeah. That makes sense. I know how to read. And everyone believes you.

Yeah. Hey, Amy, you're going to Edinburgh Fringe this year. Yeah. You're going with your second ever show. Are you? Andrew? I am. Yes, just two weeks.

Oh, that's a shooke. For Andrew. Clypetts, full run. Full run. It's got to be full run. For a pet. It's got to be. Home run for a net. Yeah. Yeah, for and where are you going to be? I'm in the pleasant baby grand.

Cute. Which is a little box, very nice box, in the courtyard. We're kind of around the back. I don't think that's what's going to sell the show, the location of the box. No, my apologies. I should have said. What time are you on? 435. Now that's a good slot.

That's a great slot. That is a good slot. It was 425 last year. I think it's quite chic just to do it in 10-minute increments. I think so, too. Head towards that, 6 p.m. Slow, slowly. Tell me this.

Take me so long. How are you feeling? Are you worried sick or are you okay? Because I'm worried sick. Well, good, that one. Yeah, that one. I'm annoyed with myself, lads. We know.

Processing emotions is tough. It's also super tough if you like to think about things too much. And then if you're trying... Thank you for saying all of them. Thank you. And sometimes when you're trying to do all of that and you try to almost with love to yourself be like let's get some prospect you know please perspect my problem is I'm prospecting too hard so basically what's happening in them like it's my second show

everyone finds that really tough you've done all this stuff you ever thought was good you have to write a new show in a year no one has to I am yes and it's like of course this stuff is you're just a new muscle memory and you got you can't push through you gotta push through and and so I don't know what my emotions are but I know what I think they should be bad. I'm lost. Yeah, it's hard. That's okay. What's the show called? Busy body. Fantastic. Yeah, fun. I love that. And that's enough. And what did you say it was about when you had to write the blurb before it existed? I, the blurb and also the press release. Yeah, what did you say in there? Oh, I said some stuff in the press release that I have to keep writing down in my notepad because I'm like, I guess maybe address that at some point. Yeah. I hope LaBubo's

still going to be a thing. The boobo's forever, I think. I think it's forever. Labubu's for August. Yeah, it's certainly in the consciousness forever. It should be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think it's going to tie that.

So I only have one terrible joke. I don't know. I'm like, the show is about Laboubos. It's not, I just say that La Buba is not a French person with a cut on their hand. Oh, that's lovely. That's good stuff. And that's enough, right? Yeah, I think that's fantastic.

Yeah, I wouldn't give it all away here. Oh, because that's good stuff. That's all. Make them buy a ticket. No, that's literally all of it. Amy is really underselling herself, as is often the way with female comics, particularly on here. And let me say, you should go see her show. You'll very much enjoy her. It's a very good time. And also, I always feel so held when you're on stage. I simultaneously feel like, I'm having such a good time, but I also feel safe. But I'm having such a good time. But I'm having such a good time. I feel safe. I call people in, absolutely. I do remember the first time. I'm not alone. I really aim to make people feel safe. But you really bring people in. And it's so delicious. I call people in, absolutely. Yeah, you do remember the first time I saw your, I guess your first Edinburgh show.

Oh, God. There was a man in the front row and you said to him something like, you've got a lot of responsibility on you, like, if you're really visible. So if you don't laugh, you fucked it for me or something like that. And it was really early on and I was like, God damn, this bitch is a comedian. It was so exciting. I was like, yeah, exactly. Tell that man to fucking love.

It was great. Thank you so much. I guess we know what time of the, which season you were in that week? I was Luteel and you were the other one of the three. I think I watched one of your very first gigs. Well, we did a, I did a stand-up course with you. Were we on the same course? Or did I was in your second.

Well, I did, I think you'd already done it when I did it. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember you were fantastic. And this was probably what, like eight or nine years ago now. I think it was 2016. So almost 10 years ago. And I still think I remember what you talked about.

It was that good. Yeah, because I still do it as a bit. Do you? It was a fucking great bit. Is it, um, bumming into a colleague on the tube or something? Oh, no, I forgot about that. Yeah.

Yeah. You bumped into a colleague on the tube. And then I began a series of lies that ended up with me buying a cake. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds great, do that. So you've always been good as what I was saying. I need some more. They don't go to your second show, yeah.

Okay, everybody pretended and pretend that I have a day drop. Pretend that I have a day job. They all do that. Well, I temp a lot. Oh, you, you're, I'm, I'm, I have, I'm too, I'm too old to be on a reception desk is what I've learned recently. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can be in a normal temping situation, you know, at a desk. I can't, I'm not front facing anymore. Why did you get pissed off?

I just, it's not for me. Say more. I will say more. I will say more. I was working at the, a sport board. The F.A. Oh, no, that would be cool and I would tell you that. Cricket. I've just immediately said it. The ICCC. English cricket board. ECB. ECB. ECB. What's the ICC? International court. Cricket court? No, there is an ITC for cricket.

Okay, fine. The International Cricket Council. Thank you. I knew there was, but I also think it might be the International Criminal Court. Both of which would be fascinating. But okay, so you were at ECB. I was basically working for this. In reception, they obviously when you get the posting,

they don't say, do you care about cricket? That would be an insane thing to say. Yeah, because who cares about cricket? These people. And my brother, to be fair. These people who called up and would say, actually I quite like the calls because they'd always be from a man being like, hello, I'm calling from the Molly Wombles Boards Club and I'm Woodrow to be.

It's so interested to know if we could get a signed bat or something. My wife's having a raffle. And I love them. And we were never allowed to transfer calls, so we'd always have to be like, absolutely, sir, no problem, just give me your email address. And I'll pop this on and they'd always be like, oh, email. Mm, yes. I think it's my wife's name.

could it be be to internet and it would be that would be a real joy actually I loved those and they'd always be trying to be like oh we don't have a ref we don't have a ref for the weekend

anyway jolly no the problem was when the fellows would come in and then they would say who's that and they would point at a picture of I now understand an incredibly famous cricketer as a sort of like Shane Warren on the wall

you know I would know Shane Warren yeah okay and I would know because of Liz because of Liz because of Celebrity yeah You know, I know.

What are you talking about? This is really today, Shane Warren. He's also... Worn, warn. No, she's Irish. You can say it like that. No, I'll say Warren. It's good for me to be taught.

And also RIPA. He did. Oh, no. I could tell by the way you were saying it, you didn't know he went online. I was like, I'll just quickly add. And God bless him and his life. But it wasn't Shane Worn.

I would know Shane Warn. I once saw him got a thrown out of a club in Mayfair. Oh. What were you doing there? I was actually doing my old job. I was going around looking for the homeless. I really thought you were going to say Benster and Mayfair.

Yeah. Also don't say it was like locking for the homeless. You weren't hunting them. Yeah, I was rounding them up. Rounding them up and getting them out of your sight. That's very Mayfair. Gosh. Oh, but that's, that's, that's, that's, that's his central truth.

And that's fine. Yeah. He lived as, he lived, yeah. Well, listen. Was it Chang Warne or? No. It was Freddie Flint or? No, it was Ben Stokes.

Very good. Yeah. And I actually really like Ben Stokes and he talks a lot about depression. So, you know, can I quickly get on board with the sport? Yes, but do I want to be tested? No, no, no, no, absolutely not. You're doing your best. That's awesome. And I'm not there to be cricket lady. I'm there to be... Phone lady. A hundred percent. Talk to the old men and give them my blessings. But wait, what I was going to say, amidst saying that you're bringing to people to sugar to your show and yes, Chloe Pets, you can finish your piece of Toblerone. Thank you. Double your own. And I hope it's not crass to say it. But, um, um, um, I'm... I think it's so cool that you do stand-of-comedy when you did, you used to work in television side of comedy. Yeah. And obviously, you date niche.

Yeah. And that's got to be an intimidating context in which to start stand-off. Thank you. So hard. No, obviously it's got like lots of, you know, it's going to, I'm sorry, I'm being, but I feel like that's like, it's brave to be like, I'm also going to try this. Yeah. And I'm going to be out here being newer at it.

Yeah. And learning. And much worse. Well, because you're newer. That's literally the, that's, I think that's so cool. It was, you know, the niche. element my long-time love in Isch Kumar was like weirdly easier in that you know you just talk to

you're just across it you cross each other's lives whereas it was more I think the maybe the weird not the weirdness but just having been around comedy for so long but I basically went to university went to the fringe while at university and was like I'd been to the fringe before but I don't ever seen like weird Russian nude dancers you know and pre-university you were into the nude Russian dancers.

Oh, yes. I've been an old girl my whole life. Spiritual age, 75. Naked Russian dancers. Actually, I remember it was called Derievo. And they were so nude. But that's because my parents are bourgeoisie. And we love to go to the naked dance.

Lovely. So we'd go to the naked dance. We'd go to the book festival. Gorgeous. We'd go to everything. We went to a Fife local Amdram production of On the Road, Jack Cairoax on the road. And let me tell you,

they tried to do the American accent. Yes, incredible. I loved it. It was fantastic. But I didn't really know about comedy. Because my parents are North American. And so comedy, I didn't know about, I just didn't know that stand-up existed in that way.

And I couldn't believe it. So then when I left university, I immediately got a job working for a talent agency in London, which took shows to Edinburgh. So I just sort of fell into producing shows. In the artist's way, they would call me a shadow artist and it would be an insult to be fair yeah which would mean I'd be like it's sucking up everyone's energy but not really I was just very happy to book gigs

for Ashley Lee and Liam Williams sure and and and oysterize a sort of mad old sketch group that was the Demetrius um Phoebe and Liam wow I would love to see that yeah I sometimes sometimes forget that because I feel like we're somewhat peers yeah and but that I also lived an earlier version of comedy. Totally. How, it must have been so scary to then be like, I'm, also, is it weird to, like, have given feedback to people on their shows and then have to, do you self-note

a lot? Well, fun fact, I never gave feedback unless it was very, very, very explicitly asked for. Good. We love to hear it. I was so... Round of applause for that. What is your spiritual gender, woman? Yes. I just lived from a really early age that was like,

I couldn't even, for such a long time, fathom doing it, that the idea that you would apropos of nothing to give someone a note and yet of course I have experienced it now the other way oh yeah people live to give comics feedback love to Christopher MacArthur Boyd

did a lovely person did not give me feedback okay I was like where is this guy but get in there all right it's almost completely the opposite I was in Edinburgh doing gigs and he was doing a preview and at the end of the show

he asked for feedback because it was a preview and then I saw him the next day and he was like I got a lot of messages and he was like working through these messages and I thought I I'd never do that I'd never have the confidence to say to a group of fellows who'd come to see me at like 4 p.m on a Tuesday send me some notes I also don't think the notes that they have to give will be useful I think I think asking an audience like do you

have any questions about stuff that I've said like are there any gaps in your knowledge about the thing that I was talking about I think is useful yeah questions I'm into Yeah, because it's like, oh, I haven't quite understood that bit. And then your answer to the question can develop another joke. Yes. But any time an audience member has come up to me and said, I've got some feedback for you, it's always fucking nonsense. Yeah.

Top three. I'll give you my first one. You should always wear your hair down. Oh, yo, yoy. Always. Always. Oh, yo, yoy. From a lovely lady at a music festival.

From a lady. Mm-hmm. A lady came up to me after a work in progress I did a couple of weeks ago and was like, hello, I have some unsolicited feedback for you. And I'm like, oh. As a phrase. Yeah. And I was like, oh, like it doesn't.

Self awareness doesn't look better. Yeah, yeah. I don't need it. No, thanks. And then she told me that like a joke that I did, which was a callback should come later. And I was like, okay, thank you. do you think that work in progress that I did is going to be exactly the way

that I do it in August like I made it quite explicit that I'm going to be moving the bits around I just did it to see if it works and then I thought she was going to want to say more but that was literally it and she just walked off then another person I think I like

mentioned something about Israel Palestine and then someone came up to me and was like when you mention Israel Palestine you should really say what sign you're on and I was like what? Come on Chloe. Is it a comedy show or not?

That is really bizarre. Yeah, they were like, yeah, it took me out of the show for about 20 minutes because I couldn't work out whether you were pro-Palestine or pro-Israel. And I was like, oh. Really, within the context of the show? Yeah, yeah. That's wild. Okay.

Yeah. And what about you? Amy, have you had any good feedback? I got a lot of, not smile more, but basically smile more. Yeah. just that's mental yeah and it was it was funny because they two different times one way more sweetly like it's so nice when you smile and but then I will say in Melbourne where we recently were and I was doing a mixed bill so with me Emmanuel Sinobi and Paddy Young and it would be people who it

was such a good time oh my gosh it's a gorgeous comedy gorgeous place so happy to be there but definitely I found that like the people who had come mom had just you know they had no knowledge of us why should they they had come to see a mix bill show and i if if it was an older quiet a crowd i would find myself smiling more because i'd be like end of the day they'll think i'm a cutie patooty and they'll have to be okay with that the thing is me too i also think unfortunately it conveys a confidence that i don't possess sometimes and a warmth that i don't possess sometimes so i am just like i can literally but i can feel myself like doing like almost like a cartoon like left side of the mouth up, right side of the mouth up,

just like, you know, it's not natural to me. I think you're being unfairing yourselves. Like, I think it's sometimes audiences are thick fucking twat. And I think if you start smiling at your own jokes, they're just like, ha, this must be funny. Yes. Oh, really? When I was in the States.

I promise you, the best way of kickstart in a gig, if someone, if they don't laugh at your joke, just start laughing at yourself. They will start laughing. I promise you. American comedians do this. I've really noticed it and I find it incredibly hilarious

and quite charming they'll do the bit and they'll be like what and everyone's like yeah we're all in on this together it was

wow it's really chic okay I'm going to start doing that and it's going to be so weird this is going to be the August of me

and you're just laughing at our own joke it's also going to save you writing like 20 minutes of material if you have to stop after every joke you're like

Laboooooo ah ha ha ha that's great i'm really into this because we're laughing now yeah it's pretty infectious i want to laugh more yeah i agree hey amy we have to get you to solve a problem oh i love this bit i know in fact you have to we have to get you to solve too because we said in the extras that we would be doing that so here we i love that so here's my question beforehand of a thing you know it's nice to have one on isn't it it's lovely this is um so i can't meet adam bxton um here's my question though before we get into that

because i'm obsessed with adam bxton to be clear not because of a crime Wait, sorry, what? I said, that's why I can't meet Adam Buxton, but I said it quietly and under you, but probably into a microphone. I just needed to be clarified so that people couldn't be like, why did Amy at one point just go,

that's why I can't meet Adam Bush. And it's because you're such a fan. Because I was such a fan of Adam and Joe. Okay. Yeah. But you had no problem coming on here. Interesting. Big thanks for having me.

Big thanks. Big thanks. Okay, but before we get into this, and I'm interested in your answer, to this because do people come to you for advice a lot? I wouldn't know because I'm coming to them before they even have a thought. I love to give advice. Really? Oh, are you giving the advice?

I love to give it. I think you're a great advice. Yeah, me too. I would 100% come to you. Thank you guys. What kind of advice giver would you think of yourself as? I'll learn, no, not smart enough trauma informed. I'm trying, I'm coming quick with the psychoanalysis that I have learned from Instagram. You know, there's someone called the holistic psychotherapist. You'll follow her. I do.

Of course you do. She's fantastic. Of course. She's being served up to our particular algorithm. Big Dane. My algorithm truly is Andrew and the holistic psychotherapist. And it is and I love it. And I love her so much.

I do find the act out she does with her partner. Deeply uncomfortable. It's creepy. Especially because her partner is evidently younger than her. Yeah. And she wears like a little panda backpack. I hate it. Anyway, but the post.

What are you watching? It's a lesbian psychologist. It's a lesbian psychologist. lesbian porn basically yeah no it the poster she'll write

a carousel of images and it'll just be text and you'll be like yes yes agree yes oh I'm healed or at least I know

what's wrong with me and then she'll also do these videos where she's acting out like a narcissistic parent or something she plays a parent and her partner

plays the kid but it's it's with love it's too sexual right Yeah, it's confusing and weird. Yeah. But I'm learning.

But I also think what's interesting is that a lot of dynamics that you learn as a child are, people do reenact sexually, so maybe that's part of it. I don't think it's part of it. No, but I love this. And this is why actually you should be hosting Newsnight also. Because, yeah, such a good point well made. Do you not think? Well, I don't know.

but I agree with you. Everyone's sexual proclivities are because of childhood dynamics. Thank you, Kirstie Warg. You're welcome. Are they all? None of them are externally influenced by things like porn or first partners or... Well, it's a difference, I guess, between... American television?

Kink or other? I don't know. I think... I think... Kink or other. Yeah, obviously it's informed by, like, loads of stuff. But, like, probably those first formative relationships are informed by childhood relationships. I think that could be a very true statement

and I want to hold space for that but I also want to hold space for the holistic psychotherapers being someone who is finding new ways to make content and got a partner at some point and and it is I'm not saying it's not too sexy

but I don't think that they're trying to explore that. I think they could do one of those posts oh absolutely. It's an unfortunate outcome rather than an intended implication, which is... But do you think there's some like intentionality to it now because it gets views and comments? Here we are talking about it. Here we bloody are.

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Don't mind if we do. Yes, please. So this is from A. Hi, A. Hi, A. It's me. Uh-oh. Please keep this anonymous.

I was at a work event and myself and all my colleagues were drinking after. We were very drunk. There is a co-worker of mine, a guy who I get on well with. I was absolutely blasted margaritas and wine, bad combo. And after having been working loads

over the previous few days, it was a conference... Oh, sorry, I've been working loads over the previous few days at a conference put on my work it'd been about 14 hours straight and I was just letting loose anyway I have this horrible feeling

that I said something to the effect that I felt there was a flirty energy or something between us I'm in an extremely happy relationship but I feel absolutely sick that I might have said something inappropriate or embarrassing what do I do I pretend like it never happened

do I say I was really drunk and don't remember anything how do I address this should I address this yours in shame A. When do they send this? About three weeks ago.

Oh God, we've left them hanging. Yeah. Amy Annette. Let's be having you. Thank you. Happy to be here. No, that's tough because the question isn't, do I want to do something or, you know,

is this my great one love? It's like, should I address a situation that I think might have happened, but I can't be sure. And do we think there's an underlying energy here of, I do want it to be true or this is just truly a because there is a flirty vibe. I will say as someone who has worked in many offices

flirting with people is not is you gotta you got to get through the day. I one time had a small segue and I will come back to this problem at my own issue where I spoke to a man in the kitchen and as I was talking to him the crumpet burned

he was in a different department I never knew his name. the crumpet burned and I it was Easter time lovely to be clear I wasn't just having a crumpet in I have crumpets all year long You can have a crumpet one of you like

It's not a hot cross bonn It's you think Crumpet is an Easter thing No that's that a bourgeois thing That's hot crossbowlsie The bojurzy I have all year round Yeah I'd have a crumpet but not a lunch I don't have a breakfast

No I would have a lunch Could I be having crumpets Way more than I am I'm having them all year round Every season Did you have the giant crumpets. Yeah, because it was Easter.

Behave yourself, that's a hot cross bun you're thinking of. Hot cross bun. Oh, and I will say it was a hot cross bun. And actually, I will go back in time and remember it was it was Easter and it was a hot cross bun and the hot cross bun, but as they will because of the raisins, yes, of course. It's mental that you would think, we were going to get so many people writing in it

and say, crumpets. As I said it, I thought, I think I had a crumpet recently, but I can't because it's not being Easter for ages. I guess I know. I guess I'm not ages. But yeah, the point is we've solved that mystery. And to return to your story, which isn't even the one we're answering. This very sweet boy, he was very lovely.

We were having a nice, very benign chat, probably about his train, etc. You know, nothing sexual. The hop crossburn, pimpurred if it was sexual. You know what train in which tunnel I'd like to see? The Heathrow express to my butt. No. No. And we have a.

love the time. And then the hot cross bun burn and we sort of like and then he watched me scrape off the carbon of course just because I'm not wasting a hot cross burn. Yeah very good.

Probably MNS even just thinking about it now it's so expensive. So then I, that happens. I sort of, it's, one side is so charred that it is in edible and he sort of says, you know, do throw that away. Yeah, okay, fine, but I eat that.

Fine, the next day, I go into the office. I go into the kitchen. The kitchen shared by many people. A pack of hot cross buns M and S finest quality Post-a-note for Amy so sweet

unbelievably sweet but without any context the rest of the office is alive it's a buzz it's a buzzer yeah you know they have enhanced

something like this since the Christmas party two years ago where you know beep beep beep beep you know and somebody had to leave the office so what I'm trying to say is

HR got involved H-H got involved I have been part of low-key flirtations and it is charming, it is fun you've got to get through the day and I loved implying that other people in the office were fucking

yeah of course 24-7 yeah me too 24-7 oh getting in the same lift are you well that's gonna ruin his wife's life it's gonna ruin his wife's life exactly yeah yeah we're the same and so

I don't think this person needs to say did I say that I think we have a flirty vibe unless they want to continue you and find out if it's recipped. You think that it's so pervasive. It is what I'm getting from you. Rather than this have been a segue for you to brag about how you got, like you flirted your way into free hot cross buns.

What I think you're saying is that so ubiquitous is an office flirt or an implication of one that it's innocuous enough that you wouldn't have to acknowledge it. Apart from the fact that you might want to continue it, which it seems apparent in this case, the person doesn't. Well, it seems so. And I will say that I think drunkenly being like, there's kind of a hilarious vibe here is not ideal, but it's, as I say, so pervasive. Yes.

So inherent in the, you know, the patriarchy is alive and well in the office. And so a girl's got to flirt to get through, right? You've got to smile at the boy. Let the boy give you a raise. I don't believe in this. No, but I was following you down the tunnel, but I have had to turn back. I hope you understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Don't come into this tunnel. No. Leave this tunnel alone alone. Yeah, this tunnel metaphor is really going in loads of different. Stay out of my don't know. Is it your butt, isn't it? I don't know. We're on track for Amy's butt.

It's very clear flowing. If the Heathrow expressed to my butt glowing. What are you not getting here? What do you think? I think that this person is messaging us going, I think this person is messaging us from deep within the beer fear. And I think that they are saying, I don't know if I said something or I didn't.

You 100% fucking said something. Let's just be honest about that now. You said something. we've all said something inappropriate at a time and we shouldn't have said something it's nothing to be ashamed of but if you are feeling shame it is because you are in the depths of beer fear

it might even be that your beer fear wears off and then you feel sexually obsessed with this person and it makes you feel some questions over your current relationship don't worry about that that's just your brain being fucking mental I personally think what this person should do

is address it but in a way that like totally takes sting out of it and I don't think I don't think ever using drunkenness as an excuse is appropriate I think going look I was really drunk um doesn't excuse what I said it informs like why I said it I wouldn't have said it otherwise but like just to let you know like it's all good here and um and that's it do you know what I made me sweat so much I wished I had sleeves to chop off still oh I mean I loved it but would you be able to do that yeah

whoa okay so you think just say nothing I think quit your job I'm joking that was just that we didn't have a bit of fun no but I would be with Amy I would bury that way deep down be like this stuff just happens in an office

kind of avoid eye contact with them so they get the gist that I didn't really mean it and then hope to sort of go back to a normal state within the calendar month or the quarter at least it depends how much you want to be friends with this person forever like I have friends from offices that are now just real friends but then it's not a real some of those friendships are not real like it's just site specific you won't see them again after um and i don't i think i don't know it's one of those things where normally honesty is the best policy but i sort of think in an office sometimes it's fine just to sort of fudge things just sort of move things along yeah do you not even think like a like like a sort of like hey um what i said the other night was like no excuse but totally

drunken and like not reflective of how I actually feel about... Well, we don't know if the other person remembers. Oh. Yeah. Single or remembers. I would guess probably doesn't necessarily. So could you like, could, I would always err on the side of like saying something otherwise you're just going to be like awkward and thinking about it all the time.

Yes. So why not? So why not. For having a nice time. That's the punishment. Why not just non-specific like, oh God, I could, I could, kind of remember. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So. Well, it's too late now. it's been three weeks you can't just be like oh god remember that night when i said something weird we were all crazy that night let's imagine we didn't know it was three weeks ago yeah i think just going on on a monday and being like fucking out was crazy said some like i think i probably said some stuff that was incredibly drunken like don't mind me this to me is advice if you snogged someone if you just said there is a flirty vibe here well maybe there is is but then doesn't that just like leave the flirty vibe

not if you don't flirt anymore yeah or if you flirt let's say it even more and you just say would a would a would a single person do this I would shut down so hard and be so hyper professional for like a month and then by the end of the quarter you're good yes and thank you for saying quarter business thank you okay fine but but yours does sound like more grown-up advice. Yeah, way more mature, way more able to deal with things face-on. Like, that's obviously healthier, but we, I'm sweating so much thinking about doing that. And offices are not real places. I don't know. You, you, you, then, with love, HR is not your friend. No, they're not. They work for the company. They don't want to help you. Don't tell people things unless you want

everyone else to know about them. Yep. Like, they're not, you can have a nice, you can have a nice time, but it's not a real, it's not a real place. And it's not a kind place. It's not a kind place. commerce is not for friends so the general advice is you've got beer fare just sit it out you'll be fine yeah yeah yeah I think so

and bring your partner to the next work event a sap yeah and you really tongue them maybe you get a huge photo of your partner for your desk that's normal

that's nice that's just normal stuff on a cushion yeah maybe that set up but just your partner yes exactly yeah and good luck

and let us know how you got on I'd actually love to know I do think crumpets are Easter based nope else agrees with you, I'm afraid. That's mental. Are you thinking of Easter eggs by any chance?

I'm always thinking of Easter eggs. Me too, it's the best shape for chocolate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, we don't have time. Amy Annette, before that, where can people buy tickets to your show for Edinburgh? Oh, amy annette. Dot net. Whoa, that's nice.

Bravo. Amy Annette, everyone. Could you have had it as Amy. Thought about it lots. Yeah. Decided could be more confusing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would require explaining a lot more.

It would be amy ann.net. Amy and nisd. Yeah. Amya.com. Yeah. I considered. Yeah. And didn't go for. Okay.

Fantastic. But thanks for picking up my. That's an expensive. It's expensive. Yeah. URL. You're thinking I could have both. Yeah.

Because people would have thought it was any other. Any four letter URL is going to be like tens of thousands of pounds. And this is why I stand you. Because who else would know that? It did not cost me thousands of pounds. To be very clear. It was because dot com was taking. and by a jazz singer in Ohio.

She took dot com. I would have had dot com. Dot.com. I wouldn't hate because Americans find it so hilariously complicated. And I have visions of being huge in America. I've just realized that that's what that sounds. And Canada. And why the hell not?

Why the hell not? One more time, Remianette, everybody. Woo. I just want to say, on behalf of me, on behalf of Catherine, on behalf of Andrew, on behalf of them, on behalf of the world, I guess. Thank you so much to our executive producers and our producers. Let's start with the execs.

You know them. They're sexy as fuck. They're hot as shit. It's Guy Goodman, Simon Moore, Stephanie Catrachea, Oliver Jago, Anthony Conway, Neil Redmond, Angela S, Sadie Cashman, Sarah, Dking, Anda, Amanda McCool, Amanda McCall. I can read your name, Amanda, please let me read it. Charlie weems weems weems weems you can say weems as much as you want I will always try a different go for it and then obviously our producers

we don't forget lest we forget our producers L Richard bold Harold Van Dyke Tim and Dom David Walker Rachel R Claire Owen Jones Sarah and Molly Ria Fink Cordelia Rachel Page Helen A Tina Lindsay Amy O Reardon Abby Wharf, Matt Sims, Luke Bright. It's Jam Rainbird. Have I missed a row? I need to follow this with my finger. I have Leah, Kate, Liz Ford, Tass, Anthony, Chloe Cloe, Becky Fox, Dean Michael, Sophie Chivers, Chivers, Carrie Soothe, Suthy, Sothea, Charlie A, KC, Jam Rainbow, Tamsin Smith Harding, Ezra Perrigan, Bryn, Laura Pollock, Leah Overand, Stephen Chicken, Haley singer, Dougie Robertson.

I have not struggled with reading that much in a while. I love that you always crack up at Stephen Chicken. He's a lovely, lovely guy. And I bet, I bet. And I love you, Stephen Chicken. It's just, it's, it's, it's so funny. Yeah. It's so, I really hope that they have a partner and I hope their sound name is cow.

So then they can be cow and chicken. Do you remember that TV show? Yeah. Thank you for your support. Mom had a chicken. Daddy had a cow. Please don't cancel your Patreon. We appreciate you.

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