Trusty Hogs - Ep193. CHRISTOPHER HALL / Parents, Pop Stars & Peanut Butter
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Hello and welcome to Trusty Hogs.
This is episode 193.
I'm Catherine Bohart and with me
is Chloe Pets, but Chloe's preoccupied
at the moment because she's just bought herself
a lovely ice cream packet, please Chloe.
Double gold caramel billionaire.
Now listen.
Go on.
As someone who remembers every episode
of Trachshoggs ever,
there has been some discussion in recent months
about the difference between millionaire and billionaire.
On the podcast?
Yeah, is that right?
Was I present?
This is true, isn't it, Zofia?
Isn't...
I think you were present.
I think you came back from Tenerife
and I think you were talking about the difference
between a millionaire and a billionaire.
I don't think so.
Surely a millionaire is a million million, right?
Yeah, so we can't go through this again
because this has been spoken about on your podcast.
Okay, one's just a bet justifiable and one's ethically bankrupt.
There's the answer.
Is that right?
Yeah, one is invested in oil.
One is legitimately trying to do the best for themselves and their perhaps children
and the other is a disgrace and should be sent to jail for their selfishness and repugnance
and probably funding something gross.
Both.
Oh, I'm so glad.
Yeah, you're going to give them your problems
And they will solve them
Or maybe they won't
And that's your problem
They'll have guests
And Andrew White on the tech
Oh, it's Helen and Catherine
As the trusty hogs
Trust the trusty hogs
Or maybe not
As you know
It's not for me this whole caramel in chocolate business
As in like the Caramac situation of it all
For me, the chocolate double caramel
magnum is peak.
I meant to get that one,
but this is what I got
because we were in a rush.
Yeah.
But sorry for the people
that don't like eating.
That's everyone.
Who likes to listen to it?
Oh yeah,
there's all this muckbang people, aren't there?
Mock bang.
Isn't that what it's called?
Muckbang.
It's called Muckbang.
That's the most Catherine Bohort
I've ever heard a word pronounced.
Oh, all that muck and bang.
Yes, all that muck bang.
Oh, that muck.
I really do think of it as muck bang.
Mok bang.
Mok bang.
yeah okay like an irish name as opposed to like a disgusting mucky sex or like or like it's food sex
but with a mcdonalds horrible i don't like any of it sploshing but with a mcdonalds a mcbang now just to
that's funny that's good stuff and i'm sorry laugh sorry i didn't laugh um my i was preoccupied by
by thought which has preoccupied me since i saw you last which is may i call you paul you haven't
solved our mystery and by mystery i mean completely minor queer
as to why there was a book in the Soho Theater waiting for you
addressed to a Chloe pertaining to a message that made no sense to you
about you are having been on Vogue Williams podcast
which we now know you have not been on.
So who that was it for Chloe?
I definitely haven't been on it.
Well, it was for Chloe Radcliffe.
Thank God we found out.
Okay, great.
And she, the book was in the room.
She's just explained to me like the book was in the room
and she just like, flick through it and was like,
oh my God, this looks so interesting.
I would love to read this.
I've just been on Vogue's podcast.
didn't see that it was addressed to her.
So then just left it.
No, she didn't see the message.
She didn't see it.
So she was like, oh, God damn it.
Like, so she's just been like,
that's so cute.
God damn it, I want this book.
It will find its way to her.
Yeah, I'll literally get it and give it to her.
I'm seeing her boyfriend this week.
The Chloe's will carry it to each other.
Yeah.
So there's been,
the mystery is solved and there has been no slight on Vogue Williams whatsoever.
Okay, and everyone can get some sleep tonight worrying about that.
I'm sure as you have been.
will have taken up a lot of your time but now you know and now we all know this is so exciting
I'm so glad to hear it now Chloe you're obviously having that ice cream good for you this episode's
coming out in July why not let's have a little bit of summer spirit on the podcast why the hell
not but also if I may you're living in a new location so maybe you can't even get magnums
where you live actually it's so true so I'm living in Kent with my parents for various
different circumstances okay I'm living there temporarily and
And what I will say...
Imagine if we assumed it was permanent.
If everyone was like, oh, Chloe's going to do with it.
That's that then.
Yeah, I've just gone to like the classic trajectory
of move out, you're on your 18, move back on your 31.
Yeah, stay forever, obviously.
No, I'm not going to stay forever, but it is nice.
It's a bit of a pain getting into London as much as I need to.
So I'm so busy.
However, one of the things that I've realised going back to Kent,
and I feel like you might have this with eyes,
Ireland. I'm like, I'm not funny here. Oh, yeah. Everyone's fucking funny. I'm so, oh my God,
I always said this. I've said this in every press interview I've ever done. So people are
probably like, yes, we get it. But like, people don't heckle in Ireland. They just interrupt you
at gigs with a better story than the one you're telling. They're a funny people. They're so,
yeah, you're like, God damn. Like, I'm not even kind of the funniest person in my family.
But Kent people are like, my mom's yoga teacher, Claire, she's.
She's fucking funny.
She's the only person who, if she said,
don't put me in one of your comedy skits,
I'd be like, there is a danger that I will.
Yeah, sorry, Glare, it might happen.
She's so funny.
She's like a total antidote to the yoga teachers in London
because she's like, move your ass out.
Get your leg up.
Come on, come on, Tina.
This one's for you.
That's so funny.
Oh, I like that stretch.
She was something like, oh, I love that one.
And then she comes.
comes past me. She comes past me
one day she goes, how's it living at home with
your mum? And I'm like, yeah, I'm having a great time, Claire.
She goes, don't forget, it's never too late
for child line, walks off. And I'm just
so funny. It's great
content. She's just an absolute laugh.
Turning it out. But I am
missing matra.
I hate matches, I can't relate, but I do understand
the rest of it. Tug Ellen home recently we went to
the sauna in Dublin and the plunge pool
with my sister, gorgeous out.
We're in there, 12 lads in there, recovering
from a whopper hangover.
Obviously, one of the lads puts the water on the stones.
All of them are like, oh, new Pope.
And you're like, that's good, clean fun.
It's good stuff. It's lovely. It's lovely.
Yeah. Listen, what nice place to be from?
But you're struggling to find a magnum you were saying.
I could find a magnum for sure, but I couldn't find like high quart, like gelato, for example.
I come to London and I like, I neck the good coffee.
Yeah, fair enough.
I, yeah, but I mean, ultimately, like, it must be nice.
It is nice, yeah.
Are you seeing green a lot?
Enough. Yeah, I am.
Isn't it the Garden of England?
It's the Garden of England, but I live in the...
I feel like I had a joke about this really early on.
Yeah.
But then I saw that Angela Barnes is also from Kent
and had done exactly the same joke.
Or I think we came to slightly different conclusions
and I had to drop it because she'd been doing it for longer.
Okay.
But it was like, if Kent is the Garden of England,
and then Sittingbourne is like the fridge
that someone's dumped in it.
Right, okay.
She's from Sittingborn as well.
No, she's from Maidstone, I think,
which is next to Sittingbourne,
which is where my brother works in the Mercedes.
Sure, I know the Kia Maidstone's exactly where I bought my car.
Yeah, Kia Maidstone.
They wanted me to go back there from my MOT.
I said, Kent, are you mad?
I'm going round to Cornish to Mohammed.
He's a wonderful man.
Now then, since we've talking about urban life,
I think we should get an incredibly chic urban gay man on.
Don't you think?
You're ready for this?
I'm ready.
It's early doors to intro, I guess, but I think you better finish that ice cream.
Yeah, I need to finish my ice cream.
It's melting.
Get licking, and please, welcome to the podcast.
Christopher.
Go home.
Woo!
Woo!
quiet long stair,
which is that when you would go to duty free
as a child on holiday,
you would do what now?
Buy a brick of cigarettes
and then sell them in the playground.
And you thought we'd be like,
same.
Oh, yeah, is that not like an entrepreneurial
sort of venture that the masses?
It's Alan Sugar-esque.
It is, yeah, yeah.
It's very prison daddy of you.
It's very like, yeah, like, you know,
I'll provide.
Yeah, yeah.
What would be your markups?
Um, not very much. I wasn't like, quick. I think it was just like, my friend used to bake brownies at home and then sell them.
Like with, I was just brown. No, just normal brownies just a break time. Yeah. And they were like amazing. And, and he didn't, I think he literally covered his costs and made like, you know, 20, you know, you know, stuff used to cost 20 p. Freddow's, 10p, 20 p. A cigarette in the playground. Freddows and your mate's brownies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you ever go into business together? No, a brownie and cigarette deal. That would have been amazing.
Were you playing to different markets?
Were you selling to the teachers?
No, the teachers were, well, rightly so, because it's bad and not cool.
No.
You don't need to.
Rightly so, the teachers.
No need to tell us.
The teachers wouldn't, didn't like it.
Yeah.
That really makes sense.
But the teachers knew about it.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, but they wouldn't.
No, but they did see people smoking and be like, you don't stop doing that.
What age are we talking?
Sorry.
Well, you had a question, but how could he not?
it was a question unless you announced that it's a question it opened with what and it ended with
an inflection of no no question yeah please tell me what you think about what was your question
actually just what age were you when you're selling cigarettes to your cohort of children i also
making it sound like i did it a lot i think i did it like a couple of holidays in like that's so many more
that's not like a couple is a pattern yeah it is it is it is it is it is it is it sounds like you did it
whenever you had access to
duty-free cigarette.
Yeah, so I think it was maybe like twice
in Upper Six, 18.
Did you smoke any of your own stash?
No, smoking's really, really bad for you.
Did you smoke any of your own stash?
I went on too foreign holidays in Upper Six.
I think,
I don't think that's too many foreign holidays.
I think one of summer is like,
like a summer and then like,
I think you could be working class and go on one at summer.
Like a summer and then like sort of East,
like something in Easter or thing.
See, I knew it was in the same fucking New School.
Yeah, I think if it was it a hot on a cold.
I'm struggling to remember the exact
and I think I'm now getting a bit like
A bit stressed by us being like
Just about being so like
No just being like so appalled at me
No no no no no no I have another question
We're just jealous that you were a cool kid
And we're like wow I would have told on you
Yeah yeah
Fine
Did you sell them in packs or did you sell them in singles
In the packs
Right
Wow
Yeah and how many packs per brick
there's 20 packs per brick
Wow and how many
So honestly I probably like
Fivera
Yeah yeah
I made like 50p on each one
I think it was just like
The act of like
I think it was the thrill of buying
them like abroad
Yeah
And then and then like yeah
Just like yeah
Just like yeah
Selling them for honestly
Yeah 50p marker
I like the spirit
It is entrepreneurial
When I was in year nine
I remember a girl going
Just going Claire's
does anyone want anything?
And I was like, no.
When people learned to shoplift,
that was nuts.
Oh, you knew that the implication was shoplifted.
Oh, is that what that meant?
Yes, because she went.
You both knew that.
I didn't know that.
I was like, what would you need?
I'm got, yeah.
Well, in year nine, I was like,
no, you don't need to get me a mascara or a dream mammose.
And she went, no, I'm going to nick it.
I'm going to nick it.
I'm going to nick it.
Yeah.
And she didn't even want money.
She just liked the thrill.
Yeah.
A couple boys in my year used to go and, yeah,
just like, do you want anything.
from yeah
M&S
or the shop
but get like
Eminet
get like
you and your
Eminess is there
MNS was the
food
the shop in town
in Cambridge
right
right
it's all coming out now
so there is an MNS in town
close to the park
where you sit and get drunk
great
yeah great
so
so you were getting drunk
on like MNS champagne
not champagne
how'd you open it
in the park
these are great questions
that cool kids would ask, honest to God, guys.
I had my first drink when I was 19.
My first cigarette around the same period.
I had my first kiss at 19.
None of this is relatable to me.
Huge year, but honestly, none of this is relatable to me.
I never drank in school.
I never saw people drink.
The idea of smoking terrified me.
When did you have your first kiss, Chris?
Oh, my first kiss.
Yeah.
I want a high and welcome for a podcast.
Hello.
Oh, yeah.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
When did you have your first kiss?
First kiss was 16.
And the gender?
A lady girl.
A lady girl.
A lady girl.
Oh, a real life.
A lady girl.
Yeah.
Wow.
Delightful.
We're still friends to this day.
That's so nice.
Wow, you surprised me that you would have a significant female friendship.
A significant female friendship and you wouldn't have been hurt by that formative relationship at all.
We are fabulous friends.
she just had a second baby,
congrats on...
And yours, I assume.
Doing it twice is mine.
All for one kiss.
Lady girl or lady boy?
Careful.
Yeah.
Careful with kissing.
You can get pregnant from kissing, okay?
Absolutely mental the energy
you're bringing on this podcast of don't smoke,
remember, don't have sex,
otherwise you will get pregnant and I.
And type.
Just Christian Christopher.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Imagine that was a big reveal from this podcast.
You know he's so Christian.
Really, really,
really Christian, heavy on the Chris.
Yeah, like really heavy on the Chris.
Yeah.
Heavy on the Chris, heavy on the church hall.
Whoa.
Nice.
Thank you.
That's nice.
Do you remember, did anyone go to church as a child?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you remember having to go to the church hall afterwards and then just like running laps around it?
Loved it.
Yeah.
Yes, I wasn't a run like laps girl.
Unsurprisingly, I was a very formal child.
So I was taking napkins, checking everyone had.
had a co-jury slash doily, making sure there were enough bourbons to refill the plates.
Oh, that kind of gal was I.
A bourbon cream.
Is there anything better?
There's nothing better.
And I love how, I love how, like, ordinary it is.
Like, there's so many chocolatier biscuits.
Yeah.
But there's nothing like a bourbon cream.
Do you think it's nostalgia, nostalgia?
Possibly.
Possibly.
But it does also have a structural integrity that,
befits a cup of tea in a way that...
The crisp and then the sauce.
And the soft is like, almost like, what's that word I want?
Like, fondant.
Yeah.
It's almost like fondant almost.
Yeah, it's positive delightful.
And I feel the bourbon cream would be in a lineup with,
it would be the highlight in the biscuits that it's with.
Like, it would be like bourbon cream, custard cream,
like a nut.
The nice ones, they're fine.
Yeah.
Like, amazing.
Yeah.
Whereas, so if you, of course, if we're going to put it next to like a bourbon
versus like caramel chocolate hobnob.
Sure.
Okay, there's, you know, there's a bit more glitz and glands that.
But if we're doing bourbon cream or in the sort of share pack, the variety pack,
you've got to go for the ballroom.
Do you know what I'm choosing?
The one that, the one that I'm choosing first, though, is the one, not a jammy dodger,
but like the classy version of it.
Do you remember in the selection?
It would have a bit of jam in the middle
And the biscuit would almost have like a little sugar on it
Yeah and it would be sort of like ridged
Yeah, a bit ridged
Grow up absolutely not actually isn't like for a bourbon
For your pleasure
Yeah
Ridged my pleasure
There's a specific feeling I get when I think of bourbon creams
That is so tied to
I would run in from school
Open my mom had this bread basket in the kitchen island
Not the only one who had a pretty nice childhood
Yeah
Wax them open
and then I would eat as many as I could
before she'd noticed I was eating them
so that from when she noticed I was having two
Great
And there was a very specific sick
I would feel after the sheer number I could hoof
The bobbin sick
That I think of so fondly
When it comes to the bourbon cream
How many would you manage?
Oh I could easy to eat
Fantastic
It's important to say my school kilt also had pockets
So I was shoving some in there
Before she saw as well
Wow brilliant
I also love the fact of like
yeah she might not
she might have only seen you eating to
but the packet has
quite noticeably gone
oh Geraldie was on to me
all the way down like
or like if you had like a biscuit tin
and then like you sort of absent mindedly
just like going to town
and then like you're like oh shit
it's now empty
yes yeah yeah yeah yeah no Geraldine
was on to me 100%
they're going for a pack a day
Geraldine she can't afford
the kitchen island anymore
well actually we used to get those
remember the triple
stacked. They were three across bourbon creams.
Excuse me. What are you? Yes. What are you saying to? Yeah. And I had that sort of rapper, you know, that like, oh my God, yes. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You had to peel them open like the, almost like a Jacob's cream cracker pack. Those, that same material. Do you know what I'm going into savoury? What the fuck? I know. I'm sorry. This is a lot very early. No, it's amazing. I'm sorry, you just got here. Did you remember discovering like when you got to an age where you could prepare your own snack. So what, what are we saying?
like eight nine yeah and you discovered like I can get a cream cracker I can get the butter
and I can put some red lester on it and I can do this as many times as I obviously until it runs
out you get told off yeah wow making your own fucking snacks phenomenal phenomenal I loved I used to
love a cream cracker with Nutella oh sweet and salty don't mind if we do no we've run out of bourbons
I'll make my own I don't think I had Nutella until I got to you
at least.
What?
No,
I slight.
It was a new,
it was a new, it was a new, it was a new, it was a new, it was a new, yeah, Nutella.
I think, yeah.
Did you have to have that panda shit?
I remember having, like, a chocolate spread.
You do know panda.
You know panda.
It's the, it's the, it's the white and the milk.
Oh, yeah, that shit's good, man.
I don't like it.
I only had that, like, last year for the first time.
We weren't like, we didn't have shit like that at my house.
Damn.
We had so much shit like that in my house.
No, we never had any of that kind of shit.
it would all just be like you have your dinner and that's it what did you have no we we we'd have
we'd have chocolate spread every so often and then until like I think mum realized like what the
fuck is like no you can't have a chocolate spread sandwich so she'd like okay I'll forget I won't get
you that we had circles of cycles of that months later we'd be like oh yeah yeah okay
you can have that and then she'd see us having it she's like no you can't have chocolate sandwiches
yeah um Nutella
beautiful name for a girl
it's never been it's never been the one for me
really what's been the one what do you love to spread
I always liked chocolate spread more than Nutella
oh and then I don't I obviously I know
Nutella is delicious obviously know the cup big
you're not here to best merch your good name
no the flavour combination obviously it's a hit
yeah yep
you know when you feel so you're like
I just don't get it guys
like when it was so
everyone's having it everywhere
like if you went to a hotel
Empress new clothes
yeah yeah yeah people are making
tiny ones with their names on
Nutella is my favourite Nutella
names on and I'd just be like
missing something here
it just has never been that like
I've never held it up that high for me
wow I get it well what do you like to spread
it's a great question
I love peanut butter come on
which one come on come on come on
and don't say smooth or I quit
I do I will take either
but I do love a cross
Yeah, I do love crunchy.
Yeah, I do love crunchy.
Are you a purveyor of choice?
What do you mean?
Who's your peanut butter go-to?
Um, well, sometimes I, I went through a phase of being like, I think I went through
the very like, um, you know, uh, natural and like, you know, I was vegan for quite a long
time.
It was like wonderful for this season.
It, uh, not anymore.
Wow.
Okay.
Fair play.
Yeah.
It was wonderful for the time.
You don't get crack, cracking pair of tits like that on tofu.
No, you don't.
I was like, with this.
These shoulders, my God, how's he doing it?
So I went very natural on that.
I like the big massive tub.
Oh, I love the big tub.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And actually, I think fondly of the big tubs because when in the,
I think fondly of the big tubs.
Because in the emmick.
Yes.
In the war.
Memic.
Yeah.
When we first got it.
And we all.
And we all forced.
You're so good at news.
And I lost my sense of smell.
Did you?
Me and, and that was the only symptom I had the first time on mid.
I literally hate talking about it.
Like, honestly, fuck off and just never come back.
But obviously it did happen.
So like, it's forever.
No, but I think you're right.
I think we shouldn't be giving it so much airtime.
Yeah, just like go away.
But also it was no platform.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But me and my housemate, when we'd lost our sense to smell,
used to like stick our noses in like this massive bucket of peanut butter to like
and then and then literally would be that.
Can't smell it.
And then like, after like, five days that we did like the peanut butter test.
My friend was like, oh, it's going to be back.
Oh, that's crazy.
Yeah, so I do think fondly.
But now I just love, I love, honestly, I love a supermarket own brand.
Yeah.
Just get it.
I don't give a fuck.
Skippy.
Yeah, whatever.
Skippy.
Whatever.
Sometimes when it's like, like, Skippy, there's a place for Skippy in there.
Yeah.
Like, I like it.
I like it. I like the natural when it's just like nuts.
The ingredient says like nuts.
I can you clip up
can you clip up Chris looking directly
into the camera going nuts
that is the advertisement I'd love it
but then at this in this
you know two things can be true I love
the kind of almost luminous
yeah like
jelly like like squashy paste
I know what you mean
put that on a on a slice of
shit white bread on a hangover
whoa yeah
we were saying this the only the other day
sorry when you've been hung over and haven't been able
to eat until maybe four o'clock and then you're like let me stomach something and the first
bite and you feel I'm back you feel it like fall down the crevasse to your stomach it's like
yeah you're like I'm ready to go out again whoa yeah you come back to life wow I
know no please only after I interrupted to you I simply eat my way through a hangover from
the second I awake I don't stop eating until the evening I am not going to go out again because
as you know and as you may not know but as it's true if i've been out that's me for the year
but yes i'm going i'm waiting for dominoes to open okay but but what if you what if i i i have been
known to be a bit sicky yeah sometimes like sometimes you can't sometimes you're done yeah oh no
i haven't i i'm not in years not a long time sometimes it happened to me like last year and i was
like too old for this welcome back but then but also
We're never doing that again.
Yeah.
Sometimes it's once a year, you kind of go like,
oh, come on.
Yeah, once a year I definitely, definitely go mad.
Yeah.
But my God, do I eat my way through the recovery?
Yeah, for sure.
I just really, it is a free hit, isn't it?
It's like, let's go.
Absolutely wankered.
Yeah, let's obviously go.
Okay, well, Chris, you,
aside from your faith, obviously, the children, of course,
your new role as the spokesman for,
nuts. Yeah. What's up with you? Are you doing Edinburgh? I'm doing
Edinburgh. I'm doing two weeks of a work in progress.
Gorge is? What's the show bed? And you don't have to know because it's a work
in progress. It's a work in progress. But I do have some threads.
Yes. If I'd only seen you online, which would be crazy. And I thought of you, you know,
should I be expecting any clicking or dancing? Or should I be expecting jokes? Or do both?
It is definitely leaning on more jokes.
A lot of people last year and previous years have said,
oh, some people come expecting stand up
and some people come expecting more of like dancing or a cat.
A lot of people say, I thought you were going to do the cat.
And I was like, I just don't know if the cat,
because I did a cat kind of character online.
So some people come expecting what they've seen online.
And a lot of times they go,
oh, that wasn't what I was expecting.
but I did it, that was great.
I loved that as well.
So that was really, really nice.
The plan is for next year's sort of finish show.
Yes.
Is to have a little bit more theatricality
and a bit more, maybe a bit more sort of dance
and like my theatre background kind of infused.
Great.
Yeah, but I wanted to take two years.