Trusty Hogs - Ep96. JORDAN BROOKES / Romania, Reality TV & Relaxed Performances

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

An episode like no other, the brilliant JORDAN BROOKES (Edinburgh Comedy Award Winner 2019-2021) joins us this week for a complete deconstruction of the Hogs "format". Meanwhile, Catherine discovers Couples Come Dine with me, Helen shares some Titanic history, and we're all getting prepped for various stints up at the Edinburgh Fringe. N/B: Helen's tantrum is probably best enjoyed on YouTube but it is also fun to let your imagination run wild with what mayhem she is causing off mic...FOLLOW Jordan: @JordanBrookesComedyThank you so much for listening!Support us at https://www.patreon.com/TrustyHogs for exclusive bonus content, merch, and more!Trust us with your own problems and questions... [e-mail] give us a follow @TrustyHogs on all socialsBe sure to subscribe and rate us (unless you don’t like these little piggies - 5 Stars only!)Thank you to our Patreon supporters...EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Guy Goodman / Simon Moores / Mary Fox / Annie Tonner / Sarah Jarque-Deakin / Oliver Jago / Anthony Conway / Matthew ThomasPRODUCERS: Richard Bicknell / Elle / Richard Bald / Neil Redmond / Victoria Hutchison / Emma Walton / Harald van Dijk / Tim & Dom / David Walker / Rachel R / Sadie Cashmore / Claire Owen-Jones / Jess & Nick / Zoë / Sarah & Molly / Raia Fink / Cordelia / Rachel Page / Helen A / Tina Linsey / Graham Marsh / Amy O'Riordan / Abbie Worf / Kie Web / Matt Sims / Luke Bright / Leah / Kate Spencer / Tristin / Liz Fort / Taz / Klo / Becky Fox / Amie / Emily Gee / Alex McPugh / Dean Michael / Glenys Wood / Stefanie CatracchiaWith Helen Bauer (Daddy Look at Me, Live at the Apollo) & Catherine Bohart (Roast Battle, Mock the Week, 8 Out of 10 Cats)FOLLOW HELEN, CATHERINE & ANDREW...@HelenBaBauer@CatherineBohart@StandUpAndrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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What's your name? Is it Catherine Bohart? Is it actually? We are going to do a podcast where we talk about our lives, how we thrive, how we survive. And then we're going to have on a guest this week. It is Edinburgh Comedy Award winner. In honor of our Edinburgh, in many ways, the Edinburgh episode, because I'll be in Edinburgh when you're listening to this. Right now.

Helen, I'll be in Edinburgh doing a work in progress from the second to the ninth. Shit. And then on the ninth, I'm recording a two-part radio series that's under my name called Who Runs the World.

It's about women in politics. And then at the end of the month, when you go to Edinburgh, I'll be at Soho doing work in progress in a different radio show. But that's, I say all of that to say, this week, when you're listening to this, I will have driven

with my girlfriend in the car to Edinburgh seven and a half hours. Welcome to Trustee Harmon. Will I have made us? Wait, will our relationship have made us? Through the fog, step forth the trusty hogs. Yeah, you're going to give them your problems and they will solve them or maybe they won't and that's your problem. They'll have guests and Andrew White on the tech.

Oh, it's Helen and Catherine at the trusty hogs. the trusty hogs or maybe not. So we're recording this just before Catherine goes to Edinburgh. You're in Edinburgh right now. So on the 2nd of August you're driving up. So here's what will have happened if you're listening to this. On the 31st of August I will have driven myself to... Yeah, sorry, to myself and Ellen to Edinburgh.

Fucking out. Then if we've made it through that, she is then going to... So the important thing to say about us is we met in Edinburgh last year. So she has this vision, I think, about it being like, Oh, people remember. A romantic return to that. Okay.

But. What, getting fingered in the corner? In the, I just know such thing. She wouldn't. The point is in the interim. I know what I saw. Miss Kumar saw it too. Yeah, I know what we saw.

Oh my God, shut off of you. But so she's like, she's not working. So she's like, oh, romantic return to our place that we met. And I'm like, my show is at noon every day, baby girl. And also, she's checking. But it's a work in progress show, which is to say that she's going to see me in my roughest material or and most of us

Leslie on is going to be about our lives every day why have I agreed to that and get that I don't think you've agreed I think you've asked I feel like you've asked

her to tech it I'm like come and I was like well yeah but do you want I have to pay somebody to do it so like you might as well have the money oh god these are such strong relationship choices wait for it

no she's not also doing your radio show or something no no no no but so I answered an email, you know when you're in a rush, you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds grand, yeah, yeah, that sounds grand. And I had this, like, sudden feeling like, I'd said yeah, yeah, yeah, that's grand. And then I, like, you know, like, you check in with your body and you're like, something doesn't feel, right. Yeah. I don't feel, right. I don't feel, right.

I don't know. Through my sent messages and just was like, did I just agree to, oh, I did. Oh, no, what did you do? Apart from day one of the fringe, I have agreed, which people should agree, but should I? I have agreed to allow all of my performances to be relaxed and that means that people whether for neurodivergent

or practical reasons or like babes in arms or whatever the circumstances can come in and go out move around and make noise Helen you're not really having a reaction to this I said this to Ellen and I think she quite correctly was like are you going to change your whole stage persona because I am like if there's a button in the room

if anyone even so much is like it's like hello to somebody beside them I'm usually like what's decided to her? I like can't I'm so easily distracted once you decide that the performance you're doing is relaxed you will not do that I know I understand the worry I will say this as well for relaxed performances

I think people have an idea in their head of what they're going to be like like lights on honestly it is just like a real regular show, but no one gets picked on. And to be completely frank with you, you are so good at body language and picking up on signals. You don't talk to people who wouldn't want to be talked to anyway. You just don't. You just, you have a very good grounding. Not that it's a good or bad thing to not have a

grounding in social convention, but I don't think people who don't want to be talked to are spoken to by you anyway. And also just another thing as well, anyone can go to a relax. performance okay yeah and that's that is the thing sorry obviously everyone can go it's just that it's like an inclusive space and I'm really glad I'm doing it but also I was like oh god when I'm nervous I do tend to be like where you go what you're up to watch saying to each other yeah but to certain people you don't do it to people who are well you're being so sincere and nice I thought you'd just mock me only because like I remember when relaxed performances became a thing and I was working at the national like in catering at this point and they

started doing relaxed theatre performances and like they was like really progressive and really good so there was some people being like, oh, what the fuck's this going to be? Or like, I don't want to go on a relaxed day. And it's like, it's just the show. It's just the show. Apart from if someone feels uncomfortable or doesn't want to be there anymore

or like needs to do something or like attend to a medical issue or whatever it is, they can. Like, I honestly think you won't even realize you're doing a relaxed performance. Okay, good, because I, um, hosted a gig the other night,

which we do need to talk about as well. Yes. That Jody Mitchell was on. Love it. And Jody Mitchell described themselves as a anxiety, safe performer. And I described to myself

after that, obviously, as an anxiety-inducing performer. I agree with both anxiety-inducing, yeah. And I was like, oh, God. But I also, yeah, I hosted this. Tell you what else is anxiety-inducing? Some of the people that go to relax performances. I agree. No one's saying that's an anxiety-free space.

There's a lot of anxious people in that room. And unfortunately, anxious people, like you and me, also induce anxiety in other people. It's like a trickle-down effect. It really is, except it's more like a spray effect. This is why all my friends are anxious women. It's around myself with people with anxieties. Or they before, who knows?

It's a chicken's in the next situation. But... We're all like, do you reckon this tube is going to crash? Yeah, we're all thinking. But so, that's happening. So I'm hoping that we make it through that. And then we're going on holiday together. But, um, when we'll need it.

But yeah, because it's your birthday as well. But guess what I did the other day? I did a hosted, a fundraiser for her, It's the most lesbian thing. I hosted a fundraiser for my girlfriend's football team. Wait, I saw this on Instagram. Did you actually do that? Yeah.

You can't be around that many football people. You don't know what to say, babe. And I didn't. I didn't know what to say. And I just ended up hitting on everyone. She wasn't there. You weren't doing that thing where you were like kicking shin pads to be like, and you really can't feel it.

Like me on the school field when I was in year eight. Like, are you sure? Nothing. Honestly, that's basically what I did. It was so funny. They got trashed and it was really fun. But, um, but yeah. And then I accidentally, um, invited lots of them back to Ellen's house and she was like,

are you okay? And I was like, oh, I got a real drunk and brought all these lesbians back, but now I'm tired. I don't want to go to bed. So, um, bye. Was that a relaxed performance? Yeah. Yeah. No, I was pretty stressy and mean to them.

But they loved it because they're football boys. Yeah. Football boys. Hey, um, so yeah. Hey, I'm interested in relaxed performances just as a topic because I, I don't think any of my shows at Edinburgh this year relaxed. remember being asked if I wanted them to be but I should do at least one yeah I always tried to have something I always try to put always make sure that I get babes and arms allowed on my thing because

like it's fine like it makes no difference if someone's breastfeeding like you don't care like it's like I don't know if I've even I feel bad enough so I don't think I even looked into that I always put a recommended age guideline purely because it is adult content and there are triggering subjects I mean it's just comedy like I wouldn't mind a baby crying who'd mind that I just reminded me last week when it was just me and Helen the week before that and we just kept the best week

no I'm joking you were so sick we just kept saying personality types and then we go of course that reminds us of a comedian and then we look eyes and then go yep got it same person we never even checked in if it was the right person no we didn't but we did it three times were they all me

no no no okay because remember the week before when Helen kept being like oh yeah because I was talking about this We're going a month back now. I won't remember this. Okay, I remember this because a few weeks ago, you kept dropping in that you and Jody Mitchell

had obviously been slagging me off on a train. I just kept being like, oh yeah, because I was talking about you. And I was like, these are all insulting things you were saying. It's hard though with women like us because we're offended if people don't talk about us, but if they do, it's never right. So we can't really win.

Like if you were like, oh, I... Good swerve, politician power. Great swerve. Can you tell I've been listening to like, a political podcast by the New York Times. Hell is like, yeah, but like, you want me to be bitching about you because otherwise you're irrelevant. How about that?

I'm like, okay, you have learned some tricks from Ann Bowers. I'm going to be a New York Times journalist. You didn't learn nothing from your mother. You got something there. I learned a lot from Ambauer, okay, but I've also learned a lot from the, the Grey Lady. Oh, the Grey Lady. Is that what it's called? I don't know.

I think it is. I think it's what the sign is for, it's called Down the Rabbit Hole is what the podcast is called. It's about radicalizing. how people end up being radicalized. Okay, fascinating. There's a really good episode of, you're wrong about it. And how to, like, basically save your family members

from Fox News, but also, or how to deal with losing them, not where you save them, but how to deal with losing them. And also, I am just about to start a podcast that I'll let you know how it goes, but I just write a thing about it and I'll be waiting for it to come out and inside.

Called the apology line. My mom told me about it. I don't know. This guy in New York set up a phone line for 15 years where you could call at any time of the day, to apologise for anything but then the apologies

obviously became like he was just called Mr Apology it was anonymous and so people would apologise for like infidelity stealing like much worse stuff much less worse stuff murder I guess so and so it's hosted by his wife

and she's talking about the toll it took on him so I'm fascinated to listen to that oh my God so it's talking about the podcast that did exist and like the behind the scenes of actually making that did exist she's hosting this podcast about his time as that Okay, I want to listen to that.

I know, that sounds incredible. Because I remember getting so addicted to beautiful anonymous, which is when people could just call up anonymously and talk for an hour. I've never heard of that. I swear I must have mentioned on the podcast before. This was years ago I started listening to it. Are you listening to them talking? Are you listening to something about it?

Yeah, no, you're listening to them talking. So it's Chris Getherd. Do you know the comedian? Yeah. And he, his American comedian, he's very, very good. He's an improviser. But he talks to people for an hour. And obviously, same as everything.

It's amazing to start with where people figure out what it is. because it's like reality TV the first couple of seasons are sick and then people start trying to like play the game. I get it. But he is just chatting with people and it's just they're so open because it's so,

no one knows who they are right? And no one knows the beginning if it's going to be a big podcast or not. And it's just so magical. That's so cool. I want to do that. And what host it. Yeah.

Oh, you'd be good at it. That sounds so cool. But it's like it's tricky because like you just don't know what you're going to get. Yeah. Like when we get a guest in here,

like they know they're coming on a comedy podcast. they're usually comedians so they're just like oh come in let's have a chat let's banter let's catch up and let's solve a problem but also if it gets real serious and be like yikes but when it gets serious in here I can't handle it I know you can't do you love it so much

I'm happy to be earnest NN again my whole body is like I think if you zoomed in on the video during any of the serious moments of the podcast you can see the hairs on my arms going on yeah I know you're like me when I drive which is I remember oh no actually that's a gross joke but

maybe you'll go for it just that Um, once we were in the car, like, maybe like the third time I was driving here and Ellen was like, have you farted it? And I was like, it's insane that you would even think that I could, that I would be loose enough to do that. I am sometimes just accident. No, I am like my whole, my anus is inside of me while I drive still. It's like, there's no, nothing's getting out. That is so sexy actually. Is this good, good content? Is this good content? Are you having a nice? My anus gets so tight. It goes inside of me. I didn't even use to talk about butt stuff before I, you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I. I this I think it's honestly been so charming to what you get more comfortable with your anus over the last couple of years no I am I do have to tell you one last thing which is that I am I have a new addiction can I guess um having your hair like a mermaid skin carry teeth no sure doing a bath tinting my eyelashes these are just things you know I do with manicures um Botox um exercising charles shalots out to the Pornotes class.

Shout out to my girlfriend, Ellen. I have a small, boring. Shout out to Hello Fresh. I love Hello Fresh. We're not sponsored by Hello Fresh. Sorry, sorry. Sorry. They are very nice, though, Angie.

They are very nice. Sorry for protecting my peace. Sorry. Anyway, God, my sad fucking little life. What a sad little life, Jim. No, no, it's very charmed. It's charms.

It's a charm. It is a charmed life. I'm addicted to farting in my garden and smelling it. I don't want, I don't hop on that, Andrew. If you're going to jump with... It's a nice segue. You reminded me with the Saladoletal Life, Jane. One of my friends recently was drafted in to do stand-up

as the entertainment section for somebody's Come Dine with Me episode. Stop it. They're still making Come Dine with Me new episodes. Oh, yeah, yeah. Which made me wonder, what would you guys do to entertain your guests on Come Dine with me? Okay, wonderful question, Andrew But thank you for asking

Yeah, probably get you and Catherine in To do a little like podcast segment No, you'd have fucking close up magic Oh, I do love magicing Oh god I'd probably think it was a great idea At the time to have like a trad music band You wouldn't be able to go and come down with me full stop

No, no can you about eating in three other people's Oh yeah and also eating in other three other people's kitchens When that guy put the whole whisker in his face And I was like, why are you even doing this? That's one of the most iconic moments of British pop culture was the man taking the chocolate moosey off that whisk and Claire with her planks. She's nicer, isn't it?

It's just nicer in her food of her plank. My favourite is Joe likes rice. We've been over this a million times, but for the 200th million of the time, the moment on, come dine with me, shout out to my friends Alice and Francis, so I'll share it with me all the time. It's a couple, and they're sitting there next to each other.

A couple of women. Nothing wrong with that. Did you actually just do that? Just a bit of fun really And then they're sitting next to each other And then they're like So they're on come down with me Is there a couple?

Couples come down with me? There's couples come down with me? Where have you been for the last decade? What? Seriously, stop working watch TV But also excuse me, sorry Are gay men not winning this just every week? Andrew bleep out this name

with her husband Fuck on! Are you fucking kidding me? Fuck on. Yes. Can we wrap this thing? Oh, but I need to go home. Yeah, okay.

You've actually got a lot to watch, but basically... Fuck off. There's a couple. No, there's right. So there's this... Are they deeply unpopular? I think they're northern lesbians.

And they're like... Northern lesbians. They're like, oh, can you describe your... Can you describe your pudding, please? And the two of them are there, I'd be like, right, yeah, we've made... Well, we've got strawberry and basil because, you know, Jane here really likes the flavor combination.

She loves strawberries. And Jane's just like, yeah, just love the fruit. And then, obviously, we've got the rice with it. And they're like, why is that? And they're like, well, Joe likes rice. And then there's just like Joe going, I do. Like rice pudding.

No, rice with strawberries and basil. Because Joe likes rice. Not rice pudding. Do you mean rice pudding? No. No. I understand what you're saying. Joe likes rice.

She just likes rice. That's how they came up with their dessert. One of them really likes strawberries and berries. Basel. One likes rice. I like rice. Oh, I need to go home and watch all of this immediately. Oh, and actually I still have all of the new sex in the city to watch. So we got to wrap this thing. No, no, we've got to focus and can't die with me because like for anyone who's listening overseas, like it is incredible. Like the dump truck one you just did. You didn't say dump truck. You did a sad little life jam.

But that comes after him being like you've got as much grace as a reversing dump truck, my love. I'd watch it on a compilation, including the women in the early X Factor audition. who get really angry with Simon Cowell. My favourite being, Where's your brain, Simon, and your middle toe? It is wonderful. So just to just check in, my question was, what will you be doing in August?

Oh yeah, Edinburgh as well, the last week. What will your week look like? Catherine's trying to have a nice conversation with what we're doing in August, and I'm like, where's your brain, Simon, in your middle time? Jane likes, right. So no, seriously, though. Joe likes Ryan.

Apologies. But what, um... You've got as much grace as a reversing dump truck. Okay, what are you doing? Yes, um, the last two weeks, I have no partner, so they will not be checking it.

Lucky you. I will be traveling up by train alone and, um, traveling down by train with Heidi Regan. Lovely. I will be seeing some shows. I've only booked in for one show so far. I need to book some shows.

For Laura Ramuso. Damn, you got a ticket. I think it's like already sold out. I booked it super. really and I'm proud of myself. I got to book those shows. Okay, what else? And then I'm coming down home.

Lovely. Gorgeous. And my show is ready and I'm going to say it. It's just a laugh a minute. You know what? Two laughs a minute. It's gag central. Bring your sick bag.

You will be throwing up. No, it's average at best. Come along. I'm up for you're up for a mixed bag. You're going? I'm up for three days. I'm doing a tribute show for Gareth's whistlebing keys at 4 o'clock.

Gorgeous. What day? I'm doing the 16th and the 17th I believe Yeah 16th and 17th And there's some big people like dropping in I'll say that runs daily throughout the whole month Daily it's free entry And there'll be yeah

Gareth had some very big name friends So there'll be some wonderful surprises And what are they raising money for Or are they paying the axe or what is the deal? The money is going towards his children Yes That's amazing I'll go along Yeah for sure if you are looking for something to do at Edinburgh

And you want to go see a mix bill That is the mix bill to go for sure I didn't know that. I'm really glad I know. Whistlebinkies 4 o'clock. Yes. It's called a show for Gareth. And just for anybody who doesn't know, Gareth Richards. Yes, Sally passed away this year. A wonderful comedian and a very nice man. Yes, fantastic comedian, lovely man.

And 4 o'clock Whistlebinkies was his regular Edinburgh slot. And he had it booked him for this year. It's being honoured. Yes. I didn't know that. Yeah. That's so nice. Definitely go see that.

But I'm addicted to big shops. Oh, sorry. Oh, I forgot we were talking about addiction. Because I just said that neither of you are very good at letting me, like, finish a thought, like get to the end of a point. Big Chop, is the answer. I have no idea what's happening. I told you I was addicted to something and you then did a big list and then we did Jane

and then we did the dump trucks and then we got to Garrette, which I'm so glad about. But I would just like to say it's Big Shops. To the point that, to the point that I, everything's full. All my cupboards are full now. I'm ready for the apocalypse. I have enough flu roll for a year but I can't stop bulk buying because I have a boot now

and it's so hard not to go by and also it's so relaxing at the Big Sainsbury's. Yes, Big Sainsbury is fun. It's so soothing and also I can have a trolley now and also like there's so many bays so I can park all those kind of all over the place

and it's so close to my house last night I did one by myself like I just and I had the nicest time. I can't help you with this. I love it. It's so fun. It's more fun on your own.

There's no one to debate whether or not it's worth it. I just get it. I mean, I go with Sineal, and then we go our separate ways, and then he waits me by the car vaping, and I just take my time. I love it. But I always leave with, like, a candle or a bath, something I don't need. I got magnesium salts. What do they do?

What do they do? I don't know. For the bath or for your food? For the bath, because I remember Ashting B on this podcast saying that sometimes one of her healers suggested, and I was like, well, if Ashting's doing it, it can't be all bad. It's got to be good then. Yeah. But I don't know what they do

Or if I should have paid as much money as I did for them How much did you pay for salts for your bath? I don't know, the nectar price because I'm no fool Because I'm no freaking fool I don't have a nectar card But I do love big sainsbury's because big sainsbury's has Habitat How do you not have a nectar card? Why would you not have a nectar card?

I don't know That makes no sense I save all my points for Christmas It covers my shop, what are you talking about? I've got a boots card I'm not a moron Yeah but why wouldn't you get nectar You can get petrol points

You're crazy I don't drivey Yeah but you go to Sainsbury I love Sainsbury Sometimes the Sainsbury's have an argos in them as well, like a little shop. This one does, this one does. The one does. The one does it.

I don't ever want to see. If you see me up the Big Sainsbury's, you look away. I mean, we live on the other end of London from each other. There is no way we're going to be the same. But if it were, I want you to know that that's my private time and you look away and you don't talk to me. And I look away and I don't know you. If anyone recognises Catherine from the podcast while she's in Big Sainsbury, definitely go up and get a picture.

That is the time to do it. Also get a picture of her trolley and send it to me in Andrew so we can analyze it. I actually think somebody wanting to look in what is in my big shop would feel more exposing than someone reading my diary. Really? I always think YouTube's out to history. I'd rather someone look at my porn hub than my YouTube.

Like, it's so private. I know what you mean. For me, it's the big shop actually now that I say it. I once walked in on my dad whilst he was on YouTube. Uh-uh. And I've never felt so, like, like, he felt so exposed.

He turned around and was like, what, what, what? And I sort of tried to cover the screen. Was it porn? You know, he was re-watching the Susan Boyle audition from Britain's Hot Talent But like, to catch a man in his 50s

doing that by himself. We've all done it, Nessel Norma! No. Was it not Nesson Norma? You just got confused between... She's saying I dreamed a dream. Yeah. Oh, I was thinking of the other guy.

Yeah, you were thinking of the guy that works at Carphone Warehouse, phone for you. Is that Paul Potts? Pool Potts. Not to be confused with... Paul Pot. Dicketor, yeah. Yeah. Also, an Ares.

Who the dictator or Pulpots. the dictator. Why do I store so much information in my brain, but it's all just so approximate. It's close, but it's never right. My dad is... I'm going to be shit on. Please blank out the name of that television show. Or a random

TV show. I think everyone's work. Everyone knows. It's a British quiz show you have to do research for it. God damn it. I have watched that Susan Boyle audition so many times, but it's in my... I like the Cher Lloyd one, where she auditions and she does get my swag on, the Kerry Hilsen version. And they say, we're like, oh, your parents are here, and she went in their backstage.

And she says it like that. And then there's the Stacey Solomon one. Her first audition is fucking incredible. What did she sing? I see trees of green. Oh, incredible. Her voice is gorgeous. Even though she smoked during all those pregnancies.

What? That's the funny thing. Stacey Solomon got papped smoking while she was pregnant, and everyone went berserk. Everyone has one when they're pregnant Just one Baby's not smoking it You're smoking it

Right? We cannot advocate for that Okay we are not And to be clear we're not We're actually not Hey guys Hey should we have on a guest Hey guys let's have a guess guys

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What's up, hogs? It's Helen Bauer here. Just to let you know, I am going on tour this year. It's starting in Edinburgh. I'll be there from the 14th to the 27th, and then I'm hitting up Europe. I'm hitting up Paris, Halim, Copenhagen, the places you've been begging for me to go.

And then all around the UK, apart from Wales. For some reason, I don't have a Welsh date yet. Please, if you're in Wales and you have a venue, just let me know and I'll just come there. We'll have a bit of fun. All the tickets are available on my website. Hello, lovely trusty hogs. Andrew here. Just with a pre-chat warning for going into the Jordan Brooks section of this podcast.

Jordan is a very subversive comedian, I would say. And this is a very subversive guest interview. Probably not what you're used to on trusty hogs. And I appreciate, on the faith value, it might be interesting. shall we say. But I would like to reassure you that Helen and Jordan are very good friends and we are all happy and good with this recording. You're probably worrying about what sort of content is going to be involved now. But just I will leave that for you to enjoy. But just to let you know, everyone's all good. And if you can watch on YouTube, that is probably the best place to watch

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at asuonline.asu.edu. Without further ado, enjoy the chat with Jordan Brooks. Welcome Jordan Brooks Welcome Jordan Brooks Welcome Jordan Brooks Oh wow Yeah good Yeah I was trying to explain

While you're making Jordan tea That we've done This is our second record of the day Correct And what happens around now Is you get weird No no no I'm feeling fucking zen Apart from my gas

Which is suddenly presented itself had a big burp before we started this record, didn't I, Andrew? Big burp, yeah. But thank God it came out that way. Am I right? It's a small room. Why aren't you sleeping over mine tonight? So you feel normal?

I struggle to be in this room for longer than two hours, and we've been here for six hours as a bin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome, Jordan. Thank you so much for having me. This is an absolute delight. Do you want to talk about how we'll all die one day? No, why would I do that?

You don't want to do your jokes? No, I don't have any jokes about death. I find it really scary. All of your jokes are about death. No, they're not. Yes, they are. No, they're not. Every single one of your jokes is about death.

What do you do with? They're about calm. No, they're all about death, I guess. A death of what? The baby. Of many. Of a life, of a life. No, it's more, most of the whole.

It's general. It's more of a general. A general death? Yeah. What's your favorite death? No, this is not how we're open. Let you're not. How are you today, Jordan?

Yeah, I'm good, thank you, mate. Yeah, how are you? Yeah, good. You're doing Edinburgh. Mm-hmm. What's your show called? I don't know. What should it be called?

Titanic, the Musical. Why? Because you're doing Titanic the Musical during your show. I told you that in absolute confidence. Fabulous. Jordan messaged me a couple of months ago, being like, I just spoke to Soneil. I wanted to ask about the Titanic.

He says that you know loans about it. And I was like, you know what you're in fucking luck and I was on a family wedding in the middle of Wales and I got to take a phone call about the Titanic Was she helpful? No she actually What are you fucking joking? I'd like to think

that I taught her About what? About the Titanic I told you everything about the Titanic No you told me like the basic stuff that people like know from yeah from watching a YouTube video I know the stuff from reading books What books have you read about the Titanic? Titanic the book

is actually a book yeah that sounds really good actually I would read that it's not a fucking bug to show isn't there to tell it the TV show coming out soon because the film was obviously massive in 97

I'm not abreast of this isn't the way that you are Is there another TV show out I think there is I think I'm going to do a kid's cartoon version of it where the iceberg is played by Joaquin Phoenix that would actually be amazing

that wouldn't that yeah that's a good idea okay you'll just give me the blankest thing I told you about the other boats the Carpathia Yeah, yeah, I know about the Coppathy. Do you know about the Californian? Yeah, Californian ignored the signal.

Terrible stuff. Did it ignore the signal? Yeah, it did ignore the signal. They saw it and they didn't go. That isn't what happened. Okay, what did you think happened? What do I think happened or what do I know? What do you know happened?

I think it was a collection of events and errors. It's never just one thing. They used the wrong colour flare. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Who did? The Titanic. The Titanic.

And the Californian weren't sure what it was they were supposed to be. doing you should always go and check i'd say what player were they meant to use like a particular colour like white or something they used like red or orange oh my god so there were like three boats that could have made it and saved everyone's life that were close to them in the Atlantic when it was sinking

but they didn't actually go yeah yeah holy shit yeah and they just watched it yeah just watched it unfold from a distance from a distance they weren't like just there but they could have made it because it did take a while to sink if they went immediately yeah they could have definitely we got there.

It's so bad. That's horrendous. So when you think about the amount of life boats that those boats would have had that they could have brought people onto, it was insane. Okay, that's unbelievably tragic. Wow, wow.

Hey, welcome to the show. We're like a fun show, fun vibes. Here's a question. Not one I've ever asked a guest before. What do you think you know of our podcast since you seem in the know? You seem like a research guy.

What do you think you know? Bullshit if you ever listened to an episode. episode? He's not claiming he has. No, I'm not saying I have and I'm not saying I haven't. What do you know of it? What do you think of it? What? It's like, it's like, what space is a hold in your mind, Jordan looks? Two ladies talking them, talking about stuff and people love it. I know that. Wow, that's really rude. No, the fact that Jordan wasn't like two comedians. He was like too late. Stupid whores. That's the subtext of it. Yeah, it definitely, it definitely sounded like my brain went to suggest it another word and I also.

corrected so many days. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, two bitches. Do you honestly think it's just us talking? Yeah, isn't that what it is? No, it's actually grade A banter 247. It's comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I certainly, yeah, no, I understand, I understand that that's... Remember that funny bit we did earlier? Yeah, it's so fun. Yeah. It's so fun. Aren't you having a great time? Yeah, this is great. Aren't you already having such a laugh? Yeah. You know what? Every now and again on Trusty Hogs, short, we make a miss book.

It doesn't always work out. And today is that day. It doesn't always work out. We've got ourselves a lovely young man who for some reason, you know, doesn't want to banter with us. It wouldn't have to tell he asked to do it. He's afraid of our wit. How about that? He's afraid of being outwitted.

This is like when you were thrilled, there was no Edinburgh Comedy Award, scared of the competition. Here we go again. Every winner is. Who's going to come up and take it away from you this time? Well, it's already been taken away. That's true, actually. Sam Campbell. For that two week, wrong behaviour.

Behave yourself. Behave, you're still my champion. I'm going to go for it this year because I'm doing two weeks. The worst thing I'm not doing it for this year... You don't self-opted. Doing two weeks as everyone goes like, but you're doing it just because you can get the award that way. And I'm like, are you...

No! No, I'm doing two weeks so I can be further away from that sort of world of pressure. But then because Sam won last year doing two weeks, everyone assumes if you're doing two weeks, you're like going up to like snag it. And it's like, no! I don't think of you as that at all. As in like the new Sam Campbell, no.

No. Like a little bit. Are you just looking at our tat there, Jordan? It's cool. These are all gifts from listeners. If anyone who's not watching the video, I'd ask you to do that. Yeah.

So some people made some pigs of us. Oh, it's like a micro art, yeah. That's pig me and that's pig, Helen, and that's pig me and that's pig. Do you know what I love about this? Because sometimes we have a guest on and they're like, they're very drawn to Helen's energy.

but because you know Helen so well, you just immediately drifted off. Developed immunity to it. Jordan has been ignoring me since 2016. And do they send you like the Diana stuff as well? Yeah, because Helen loves Diane. Please pay attention to me. Do you think one of the listeners would make something of me

to go in the collection? Maybe, but I... Like a little guy on the pig. I mean, there is an unnamed crochet pig that we could make the Jordan pick. That one's bald. Yeah, that's fine. I'll have that.

That's M. It's M. Sorry, I'm. The one next to M. This one. Oh, that could be you. No, that's Saneo. No, it's not.

No, I feel like that's more me. Yeah, look at the dead eyes. Come on. Why are we not getting any attention from Jordan right now? Did you plan this before I came in? Are you going to Edinburgh as well? We don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am.

Just for the first week. Great. Just for the first week. And I think I feel quite, Like, the fringe gets to be this year what I thought it would be which is like just playing around. Do you think that, um...

Hello. You'll... You were just in Hungary. No, you were in Romania for holidays. What made you go to Romania for holiday? It's cheap. I've shipped myself. Cheap, nice.

I've actually shit myself. Yeah, yeah. It's really cool. Lots of bears. I'm pregnant. Are there? I'm not keeping it. It's my dad.

Bears. Apparently, the, uh, the half of Europe's population resides in Romania. Please. And I went on a, um, a tour up a mountain. Which mountain?

I can't remember which one it was. By foot or by car? By car. But on the roadside, all the bears wait patiently for food to be chucked out of the windows. No, they don't. Oh, they're too domesticated. Yeah, they're crazy domesticated. They don't attack. There hasn't been like a death, a bear-related death for 20 years or something like that.

That's really impressive. 20 years isn't that long. It's not that long. It's still still. Yeah. You're on your edge, I say. It's still post-millennial. Yeah.

So it feels current. Post-millennial indeed? Oh, God. It really are. way, Jesus, that's good. Please. And so you don't know what your show is called, but you know it's got some Titanic.

Is it solely about the Titanic? I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing with it, but maybe, yeah. I think it could be quite fun. What stage are you in, like, early stage of work in progress? Yeah, super early, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's good just to take your time with it, isn't it?

Yeah, absolutely. That's exciting. We have listener problems. What kind of advice giver are you? I think I'm pretty good, you know. Yeah? Yeah, I think I'm quite wise. Wise.

Yeah, do you think you're, do you think you're a good advice giver? No, I think I'm only good in relation to things that I have had to learn over and over and over again. So there are some things I've got in advice giving because there's never a mistake I make singularly. So there's certain life lessons that you only know because you've had to retake the class? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that does mean I'm like, yes, graduating weirdly old. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I'm going to graffiti your tablecloth.

I'm actually going to graffiti your tablecloth. Please pay attention to me. What the fuck is this? please, please. I want to talk about going on holiday as well but I feel this is so uncarned. I feel like I've died. Andrew, do you have listener problems?

You have loads of listener problems. Wonderful, let's have one. No, stop, stop. I'm going to need a compliment from everyone in here because I'm feeling blocked. I am feeling ignored and I'm sorry I poured water and took my top off

but this is mad. Oh, do you want that censored on the YouTube by the way? No, Andrew. on it censored. Okay. Have you been to Romania? No, but I'd love to go.

Yeah, no, it's lovely. I went to, um, I've been to Slovakia. I've been to Slovakia. Of course, because he's, was Transylvania initially and then, yes, very exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. A classic quiz question. Do you quiz? Uh, uh, not really, no.

Okay. But you can, oh, you were, I thought you're going to ask me a question. No, no, well, okay, biggest desert in the world? Yeah, Arizona. No. No. No. No.

Hars down. Sahara. Afraid not. That's not so wrong. Hands down. It's Antarctica. Very good, Andrew. Andrew Popperians.

Antarctica is a sea. Okay, nice one. Okay. So, thanks for, but... You were right, Andrew, well done. Can you ask me a question about the world? And, um... Can ask me a question?

You named the three American states was four letters. Yeah. Utah. Utah. Yeah. Ohio. Well done, Jordan. And, um...

Oh. Oh. Oh. Ohio and Utah good guesses by you well and the last one is oh that's for me to do is it the hardest one no Utah well I said Utah as well at the same time as you did Utah Ohio Texas New Mexico it's Iowa Iowa oh Andrew you can't just jump in like that sorry it was painful that's a real shame because I was just about to say and then you got in there

like a fraction of a second earlier that's fine I'd say we sort of both said it probably yeah I thought that I felt that I felt that thank you Andrew maybe you could just give us a listener problem thank you very much I'm not going to get a compliment so this

what the fuck is this this is a problem entitled sad clown just for you Jordan just for you Jordan please that's actually I couldn't have made that up

That's crazy That's crazy That's crazy Okay Hello Longtime listener First Time Caller Thanks for this amazing podcast

Which makes me Howl on my way to work Every Thursday morning People genuinely laugh at They enjoy it I don't know I know I've seen the hoodies

Please What the fuck is happening Am I actually here? This actually feels like really good karma Actually for Helen Does Sampan have a person Does the writer have an initial

L sorry Hi Elle Hi Elle Hi Elle Says I've been to see Both of your stand up multiple times At Catherine's I had a delightful time

At Helens I would was systematically bullied throughout both times. So this feels quite calmic actually, this moment. I would never bully an audience member. Elle said she loved it, but still. Good. Sorry, Elle.

Anyway, my problem is, I started doing stand-up about 15 months ago. Yay! And I am struggling. Yeah. My gigs generally go well, but not well enough for me to progress in any way, and I don't know how to move things along. Not just in terms of opportunities, but also in terms of improving. I thought the solution could be a gong night, but...

how wrong I was for those of you that don't know what gong night is an audience is given a card if three members of the audience raise up their card you get gonged off very unsurmuratively they're also encouraged to boo to be mean and they generally tend to gong off women faster and generally are quite

like horrible it's a horrible place to be not me I wish they'd gong me off they didn't because I was a woman go on Andrew I feel like I'm experiencing a big block and I'm not sure how to overcome it I work more than full time and I'm gigging two to three times a week

and often in a man dungeon-esque room and the thing and it can often be the thing that tipped me over the edge in terms of exhaustion and burnout. I feel like I'm supposed to unconditionally love this comedy and I'm finding it hard and maybe it isn't for me. Any pearls of wisdom from two comedy goddesses

I assume that I mean Georgian and Catherine. And how to keep positive in the bleakness of the open mic scene, how to break through writing blocks and find life comedy balance. Number one really quickly. You are goddamn lucky to be performing in a... Because I feel like you'll be good at this for answering this. Oh, really?

Well, yeah, I don't think that you act like comedy brings you exclusively joy. And so that's good. But also, like, I think, like, riding blocks and also... Well, first of all, do you think you have to love it to continue? Do you think they should quit? Yeah. Yeah, I think so, too true. If you've done it for 15 months and you're not enjoying it, then it's just not for you.

Do you really think this? Yeah, not everyone can do it. do it. You're either born with it or you're not. Okay. I do sort of agree other than the geneticism about it. Apart from the eugenicsy bit. No, I actually do genuinely, I think I, in a lighter way, I think I agree, which is to say that like, this is the worst part,

but you have to love at the most of this point because otherwise it's all going to be bad, especially if you're not progressing. and also like why did you start it? What did you want out of it? If you've gotten those things it might have been like to get confidence or learn to write or like see if you could

and maybe you've already achieved those like it doesn't have to turn into a career for everyone and if anything there are too many comedians but also in terms of just as a general transferably how would you get through writers blocks they might by the way if what we're saying is annoying you that means you should stick with it

if you're like fuck you stick with it but if you're not then If we're giving you permission to do something that you actually want to do, then great. But riders blockwise, Jordan, what do you think? I have something to say. This is so mean. Andrew swap with me.

I think you have to broaden it out into like finding the joy. And so it doesn't necessarily mean like writing more or doing more gigs. It means doing things that bring you joy where you feel like most yourself and then trying to harness that on stage would be mine.

okay can you give us an example no okay good for you good for you that's fine i just think yeah i don't know do is it like you got to find it funny you've got to find it funny you've got to find it funny you've got to find it funny and you have to have fun with it yeah and don't just write in the way that you think you should write yeah that's how people do it stop touching katherine i know an answer that makes a lot of sense what's happening so please please please Okay, so first of all, first of all you think... But how do you get through writers, sports? I'm going to fart.

I'm going to fart. You're facing me, Helen. How do I get through riders' box? Do you believe in it as a thing? Yes, I don't know if I do. Actually, I think I, I think that that annoyingly, that sort of like, cliched quote is quite true, which is that, like, inspiration is for amateurs.

Yeah. The rest of us sit down at our desks and do the work. And I think, like, I actually do think you, I probably got five minutes by virtue of, inspiration and I've never gotten anything else since like I've just like to come up with the topic and write it but I actually kind of like that because that makes it more doable I don't have to sit around waiting I can actually like try to find ways in which is quite useful yeah yeah I also think that there are there it is legitimate to be like there are certain

parts of my life where it's absurd to have thought that I would write yeah like sit down and actually just have to well like for example I know there are some people who come back from Edinburgh having done that month and are like the most creative they could be I cannot write between September and December. Right. Basically. But you're accepting of that as part of the... I need some part of the year where there's quiet in my brain

and I can get bored and I can have ideas. Yeah, no, totally. And that's okay. But trying to resist that was actually causing way more hassle than just being like, oh, I'll jot down the idea and I'll write it in January. Yeah, yeah. But it doesn't work in that time for me.

And I have to have some quiet time for ideas. I think that's a good... Well, maybe that's the kind of advice. that they're looking for then is like just take your time with it and don't stress about doing lots of gigs because that's not, I think that's often bad advice

it's just to like gig as often as you can it's like, yeah to an extent that's true but also a lot of gigs are terrible. They are and also like I do think it's okay to decide what you want out of each individual gig so like if you're not being paid and there's not really an audience and you're like 18 of a bill of 25

what are you getting out of that if you decide it's not like I'm going to do my set in a different order then that's something in your control that you can get out of that gig and that's a personal target that you've set yourself that's unrelated to what the audience are doing

exactly whereas if it's something that you're trying to get that you can control like you can also decide to do some audience interaction but like the rest of stuff like if you need to be and if you're not making those decisions

then you will find you don't improve like if you're like I don't not improving but if you're not challenging yourself to do something different friend each time and also say you're not improving then it's probably yeah you're just hitting you're just hitting your head against the brick wall yeah if you're not

if you're not changing and adapting exactly yeah exactly yeah I don't know if that's there was like three parts of that question so what else was there I'm being polite they're all pretending I don't exist and they haven't looked at me for ages I think I think you aren't seeking people's attention hey how good I'm

Oh, hey dude. She's not being polite. That's why nobody's playing along. Your beard is so long. Make it do that, don't we like ignoring. I don't like it. They've been doing it for like two hours now. It's been 20 minutes.

11 minutes, I'd say. You look good, ma'am. You know, it's one of the best things about being at home alone. I'd have to deal with this. Yeah. Deal with what? Being a decent human being and talking to Little Helen. That was your podcast, Helen.

Not going very. very well, actually. Are you fucking recording that? Yeah. I'll see you later. You guys hanging out? We're going to do a gig together. Oh, nice. Have a good one.

See? Yeah, we're doing the sack with all our friends. Oh, cute. Have a great gig, guys. I'm not there. Thank you. The whole gang. The whole gang. That's so nice.

Nail it. We'll have a nice chat tonight when you get back. back as well. Yeah. No, Jordan's not sleeping over? No, but I might come back for a bit. Do you not even London, Jordan? No. Whoa, let's talk about that.

Yeah. Break your legs, Anil. Bye, mate. And they just keep doing that. Wait, I didn't think you could do stand-up and not live in London. Explain yourself. You can and you can't. Fantastic.

Have you always not lived in London while you've done stand-up? No, I left London three years ago in the pandemic. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I haven't been in for three years now. In my head, like, that's our podcast. possible but of course nobody else everyone's so self involved they won't even notice

yeah yeah fantastic good for you I think it's doable do you live in London yeah it's killing me killing me oh my agent says I have to stop saying my full address on stuff right right if that's okay no no absolutely fine yeah yeah I think that was most of it I think that was most of it I wanted to add when

when you said about like oh please any any thoughts welcome just with the the last part Just to tear it up while I'm saying what I was going to say was work-life balance where they wanted to know about with comedy. But I was going to say, like, you don't have to walk away from it fully. If you decide, like, oh, this isn't for you career-wise, that's absolutely fine.

Just find the gigs that you've enjoyed doing and just do those and drop in whatever you want. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, it actually can be a hobby. It's lots of people's happy. Yeah, it doesn't have to be leading to anything. It can just be fun in and of itself. My friend, I've got friends who...

I don't personally understand that in relation to anything. Oh, I'm a huge careerist. Yeah. I get that for some people it's just like makes them feel good about themselves what?

Stand up. Black's not answering the phone to me. We had a few friends that did that and like just decided it's not going to happen I'll just do the gigs I want to do and it's been so great

you know they're so much happier and healthier with it all that's so nice to hear I'm really glad great advice comedian and I've got stuff to say podcast now, guys.

Oh, the producers just said we should wrap up. So, um, guys, lovely to talk to you. Really nice brainstorming ideas rather than just having to do it myself and nice to be able to talk actually and be listened to.

I'd like to say something, please. No, it's been really lovely. Thank you so much. Thank you so. And sometimes, I'd like you to have you on. I, sometimes people sort of talk about podcasts as if they'll, especially if I may,

with male comedians like, you'll tend to be spoken over. And I've never really found that. I actually sometimes find that, with the women it's hard to get a word in well you know the biggest misogynist so yeah that's so true so true so thanks for coming in really nice to see it hey yeah it was a bit much for two with it i thought so i thought so they're just they're competitive you know and that's that's our fault that is our fault we've made the space seem finite yeah but the best

thing to do is just get rid of one sorry i'm a hair brushes fell from the sky. Are you good? I'm absolutely fine. Sorry, that's quite hard. Are you okay? Yeah, that was, um, hey, keep writing in. Yeah, thank you for your problems. Thank you for your problems. Sorry for your problems. Apologies, yeah.

Can I please say something? Thank you for your problems. Have a great week, guys. Thanks. From all of us a trusty hog. Andrew, Jordan and I good night. I don't know what happened. I don't know when we all decided we were going to ignore Helen, but I will say this. I'm sorry that you felt the need to do that. And I'm

sorry that I acted out to try and get your attention back but that was not nice and unkind and I think you will all realize this when this episode comes out that that was cruel and I'm very little and I deserve to be loved

Where can people find you Jordan? You're such a bitch! Jordanbrookscom join the mailing list sometimes I tell people where I'm doing gigs sometimes I don't fabulous any Instagram TikTok Twitter If it's meant to be you'll find me.

Gorgeous. As in Jordan Brooks comedy on Instagram and on TikTok and then George Brooks on Twitter but who's on there now. Fabious. And you'll be in Edinburgh

which weeks? First and last week. Wonderful. What are you doing? It's sandwiching. Yeah, I'm doing a weird sandwich but I think yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

Gorgeous. You're going up? I'm only in three days. Are you looking forward to with the sandwich? You're going to leave as people are starting to deteriorate and then you can come back in

and see how far they've deteriorated. Yeah. Well, I mean, a more optimistic way of framing that would be to say that I get to see how far they've developed. Oh, yeah, sorry, I've got to be a very negative thing. Yeah, no, no, no, no. So that's also five, but both, both valid

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