Truth Unites - Universalism in Church History is a Fascinating Story
Episode Date: April 28, 2025Studying how universalism developed in the early church can give us perspective about theology of the end times today. Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through... theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/Twitter: https://twitter.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
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This video is going to be a critique of universalism, which is the doctrine that ultimately all shall be saved, not just all human beings, but according to many expressions of this, all demons as well, we'll get into that. But this won't be a comprehensive critique. Instead, we're just going to focus on church history, and especially how universalism originated and was dealt with in the early church. I think approaching this topic from a historical angle like that brings some fresh perspective. In particular, I want to highlight
three aspects of universalism in the early church. Number one, universalism always had a rocky
relationship with orthodoxy from its emergence in second century Alexandrian Gnostic teachers.
Through the multiple waves of controversy about origin, an early Christian who affirmed universalism,
it never really got a firm footing within the church. Number two, universalism has tended to be more
speculative and philosophical in character as opposed to textual or biblical in its motivations.
We'll talk about that.
And number three, universalism in the early church involved not just a different view of the
final destination of reality, but a different framework for the entirety of reality,
including creation and sometimes even the doctrine of God.
I'll explain each of those.
Before I dive in, I want to do a book recommendation that Sam Storm's Understanding Prayer,
biblical foundations and practical guidance for seeking God. This is our really great book, and I know a lot of us
struggle with prayer. Well, who doesn't? Most of us. And this book, I found just incredibly helpful, and I wanted
to recommend it to you. I trust Sam Storms, both theologically. I trust him, he's a good theologian,
but I also trust him spiritually as a pastor and as a guide for the practical sides of this. And it's just so
helpful on practical questions like praying for pleasure, something we don't think about a lot.
praying against anxiety, praying for peace.
My favorite chapter was on warfare prayer, chapter 11.
If you think a demon is afflicting you or someone else, how do you pray in light of that?
It even gives sample prayers to pray, really helpful resource.
So I'm going to put a link in the description.
I would love to recommend that to you.
Now before we dive into church history on universalism, let me say why this topic matters so much
and why I think we have to, and a little bit about the spirit with which we should approach it.
universalism is becoming more popular, it seems, with each passing decade. And I don't think
that there is any Christian tradition that can avoid this. It seems to be everywhere. Obviously,
we think of some of the big flashpoints among evangelicals. You think of different reactions to
Rob Bell's book, Love Wins back in like 2011, 2012. Among Roman Catholics, you think about
responses to various things that Pope Francis has said, like his 2016 statement, I like to think
of hell as being empty. Among Eastern Orthodox Christians, you think of reactions to David Bentley
Hart's 2019 book, That All Shall Be Saved, but there's lots of others, both popular level and
academic. In all different Christian traditions, universalism is on the rise. It's also a big
topic for those who are leaving their faith, those who are deconstructing or questioning.
It's also right in the mix with a lot of those stories as well. So this issue is not going away.
if you're doing theology in the 21st century, this is just one of those things that's likely to come up.
Now, this video is going to be critical of universalism and instead affirming particularism,
which is the idea that some portion of humanity will be saved as opposed to everyone.
But let me say that the motive for that, boy, this is a tough topic.
It is, this is brutal, because the motive for that, at least I don't, my motive is not, you know, a partial charity is, or a selective
charity as though we only love some people or we don't want the best for everybody or something like that.
On the contrary, we should desire that every person experience salvation, every person come to know Jesus.
I think actually the attitude modeled for us by the Apostle Paul in Romans 9-3 is something to try to move
towards. I often pray. I have tremendous love in my heart for non-Christian friends. I often pray.
You know, I feel this overwhelming love for them. I think we should try to get our heart in the groups of Romans 9-3.
and, you know, we're not trying to assert ourselves over them. We want to lay down our lives. That's
what Jesus taught us to do. And so when we acknowledge the reality of final separation from God,
we should do so soberly and with grief. It's something that confronts me. I don't feel comfortable
with this doctrine, but I think we need to do so. I think we need to reckon with this. So the motive
for rejecting universalism is that it's a very problematic doctrine. And I think for,
Here's my experience. For many people, universalism seems initially attractive, especially if it's just sort of
casually considered. And it's often perceived to be, well, of course, that's the most charitable view,
or the view that is really happy, like what you'd find in the best possible world. It'd be universal
salvation. But the more you think about it, the more you start to see complexities that arise,
especially when you look at it from the standpoint, not just in the abstract, but in terms of
concrete experience and history and tradition. And you start to face questions like,
what about Satan himself? Will Satan be our brother in heaven worshiping God? If so,
how will that come about? Will it be with his repentance or without? Will he undergo
punishment prior to that? You know, these questions get into debates among universalists,
like the ultra-universalism versus restorationism, this debate that's going on. And there's a lot more
to that as well. But ultimately, what I think I need to say is universalism is not a simple or casual
view, and in fact, ultimately, the weight of scripture and tradition are pretty decisively against it.
I think Michael McClymond is correct in his analysis in this amazing two-volume book,
which I hold it up, but it's like half the screen here. This is a lot of research went into this.
This is a model work of what historical theology can be. You just work through the tradition.
And I'm drawing a lot from this for this video.
Basically what he says is toward the beginning, while universalism has undeniable curb appeal
for the theological driver by, the universalist house proves to be not a very livable place.
That really resonates.
I think that's right.
Why is that?
Well, let me work through three reasons for this that we can see as we approach this as it's
working out in the early church.
First, universalism has always had a tenuous relationship with orthodox.
And you see this in the early church.
McCleiman's book goes through this thorough overview.
And what he shows is that there's two great influences toward universalism in church history.
In the early church, you have origin, and in the modern era, Jacob Bome, who is a 16th and 17th century Lutheran mystic.
But universalism didn't start with origin.
It first emerged among certain Gnostic teachers in and around Alexandria in the second century,
and those in turn influenced origin and possibly Clement of Alexandria as well.
Furthermore, Origins universalism was always controversial.
I think here's the thing is, you know, you get these different waves of controversy surrounding origin,
first around the turn of the fifth century and then again in a more protracted way throughout the 6th century.
ultimately, origin's views are rejected at the fifth ecumenical council in 553 AD, though this is tricky
because the condemnation is bound up with other aspects of origins theology like his doctrine of
pre-existent souls. And so there's some dispute on exactly what's being condemned here. Some have tried
to argue that it's just his Christology that is being condemned at this council, as opposed to his
eschatological views or his views of the end times. But that seems very unlikely.
It's not just about the council's canons. You have to look at the reception of this council.
And McCleiman notes that for some 1,400 years, or until the mid-20th century,
theologians and historians regarded the condemnations pronounced at the 5th Ecumenical Council
in Constantinople and 553 as aimed at origins universalism.
The simple fact is that universalism did become widely perceived to be outside of the bounds as you move forward.
the sixth century until very recently. You find it here or there. I'm not saying it's never present,
but in Orthodox circles, it's always kind of looked at as an outlier view and as a problematic
view. Isaac the Syrian in the 7th century may have been a universalist. You can find people after
this, but for the most part, it's pushed to the side. Now, sometimes what people argue is that
prior to the 6th century, universalism was more of a common view. Or sometimes what people will say is
that in the West, you have Augustine, and the way the Western tradition goes is away from
universalism towards particularism, but in the East, there's a more friendliness to universalism.
And it's true that we can point out some universalists in the Patristic East, but the truth is
that it's always controversial, even prior to the Fifth Ecumenical Council in both the East
and in the West. So on the one hand, we have some major thinkers who appear to affirm some
kind of universal salvation, didomis the blind, Theodore of Mopsuestia, and Gregory of Nisa.
I'll say more about Gregory in just a moment. And you also have, which is really interesting,
people like Gregory of Nazianzus and Maximus the confessor that are disputed in their views,
but they seem to be a bit more ambivalent. They don't seem to just outright condemn universalism
as though it's an impossible thing for Christians to hold, though there's some disputes about
their views. But on the other hand, a larger majority of the early Christians were against universalism
that includes, and I want you to see how they were against it. So even Gregory's older brother, Basel,
and other dominant church fathers like John Chrysostom, I want you to see their argumentation.
It's not just that they rejected, it's how they rejected. Bosel, for example, references the
teachings of Christ about hell and then says, although these and the like declarations are to be
found in numerous places of divinely inspired scripture, it is one of the artifices of the devil
that many men, as if forgetting these and other statements of the Lord, ascribe an end to punishment
so that they can sin more boldly. He goes on to argue against that. Similarly, John Chrysostom,
when he's preaching through, I think it's Second Thessalonians 1, and the reference to eternal
destruction there. He starts out the whole sermon saying that there are some people who think that
this is just temporal, not eternally says that's wrong, and he sees that at kind of at odds with the
plain reading of scripture. So what I'm trying to highlight here is the way they're arguing.
You know, Basel thinks this is a trick from the devil that encourages sin. John says this is
just people trying to downplay the reality of hell and so on and so forth. That does seem to be the
more predominating position in the East, despite what some will claim. And those concerns about this
being basically from the devil, this idea of universal salvation, are sometimes specifically tied down
to origin. Origin was always a controversial figure, always, not just after the 553 verdict. For example,
the great Coptic writer and saint Chinuta of Atrepa rails away at origin as teaching the lies of the devil.
You can read McCleiman's summary of that. It's pretty fascinating. So there's always controversy.
let me read, rather than just go through the entire, I'm trying to give a brief overview here, rather than go through every possible example, let me give Richard Bachim's summary, which I think is fair. He says, until the 19th century, almost all Christian theologians taught the reality of eternal torment in hell here and there, outside the theological mainstream, you find annihilationism, and then he says it's even less that you find universalism. Since 1800, the situation has entirely changed, and,
No traditional Christian doctrine has been so widely abandoned as that of eternal punishment.
I think that is true, by the way, that this is one of those issues.
It's sort of a watershed issue where you see the differences in the modern instinct versus
the pre-modern instinct, but the overwhelming majority, the weight of the theological tradition
is against this view.
So that raises a question.
Second comment here, what is generating universalism in the early church?
And the truth is that it seems to be more speculative and philosophical in its character and in its motivations, as opposed to biblical.
And I'm not trying to make a judgment here about every universalist. I know today, I'm not trying to say we know people's motives.
Okay, there's a lot of different expressions of universalism today. But I think it's true of the early church as a generalization that we can find these two sort of different instincts for facing this question.
one is more textualist, and I'll use the word exoteric, and that rejects universalism,
and the other is more speculative and esoteric. So exoteric means intended to be understood by
the general public. Esoteric means intended to be understood by only a select few,
especially those with special knowledge. This maybe is coming a bit out of the Gnostic second century
idea. The Gnostic teachings in the second century where you have that, because you get this
corollary with universalism where you often get a kind of elitism, like there's a privileged,
enlightened few who sort of know better because of something they've seen or experienced. And that is
that. I'm not saying everywhere, but you find that a lot in the early church insofar as universalism
comes up. It's so frequently the case that you can almost use this question of universalism
as sort of a test case for differences of theological method. And the reason for that is that biblically,
it's very hard to make a case for universalism. I'm not trying to be offensive to people here.
I know universalists will disagree with me about this. But the simple fact is the texts that speak of
all can be understood as speaking in a more limited or qualified way. For example, a lot of passages
are speaking about all people without distinction, as opposed to all people without.
exception. There's ways to understand those texts in a particularist frame. But the biblical
passages warning about these two distinct locations, heaven and hell, or two different classes of people,
like the sheep and the goats. These are more difficult to interpret in a universalist way. So in other
words, you can find isolated passages that might sound either way, but when you try to put them all
together. The universalist sounding passages are much easier to reconcile to particularism than the
particularist passages are easy to reconcile to universalism. It's the end of a long day, and I really
hope I said that right. If I didn't, I know you'll know what I mean. So, you know, it just looks
like in scripture, we have two different destinations, both of which seem to be, you know,
opposite and everlasting, whether it's, we're talking about the sheep and the goats in Matthew 25,
I'll put up an example from Daniel 12, too, but there's so many of these. Now, the least,
least controversial expression of universalism in the early church is arguably Gregory of Nisa,
because he doesn't have origins, doctrine of pre-existent souls, for example. He's not viewed
as controversially by the later tradition, which is interesting. But even Gregory arguably had
some philosophical ideas that are really driving the boat here. One of them is his doctrine
of evil as naturally depleting itself. The Greek scholar Constantine Sir Panloules,
notes, the strongest and perhaps most convincing argument of Gregory in support of universal
restoration and salvation is the finiteness of evil as non-existent. So you'll find Gregory
arguing that evil must be removed from existence and reduced to complete annihilation
when every creature finally rests in God after having gone through a purification process
and so on and so forth. Now, that is not to say that Gregory doesn't appeal to Scripture,
A particularly important verse for him and other universalists as well is 1 Corinthians 1528 and
Paul's language of God being all and all. But these passages are interpreted within this larger
vision of creation. And in particular, a doctrine of humanity that sees evil as this unnatural
intrusion that must be removed in connection to the final resurrection. So there's disputes a little bit
about how to read Gregory, but he seems to think that the unity of humanity in Christ requires
universal salvation. So that's interesting. At least the third consideration here I want to develop
here. Universalism in the early church is not just a different vision of the ending of the story
of creation, but it's a different vision of the whole meaning of the story. In other words,
it's not just a different outcome. It's a different conceptual framework altogether. So if you
imagine a novel that has 29 chapters. And someone comes along and just changes chapter 29 to
give it a happier ending, but leaves chapters 1 through 28 the exact same. That is not what
universalism does in its patristic expressions. Universalism in the church, in the era of the church
fathers, affects the whole, not just the ending. Ultimately, the question that comes up here
is, is reality ultimately a synthesis, or is it more of a dialectic? The biblical story, here's one way
to put the contrast, I hope that doesn't sound too abstract here. Put it like this. In the biblical
story, you have a transcendent God who's radically distinct from the world and a linear progression
of history in which good and evil are ever more expanding. But these early expressions of
universalism tend to have this idea of a kind of primordial unity of all things in God,
and then they view history in terms of cosmic symmetry and synthesis. So in other words, put it like
this. In the biblical account, you have creation fall redemption. In the universalist view,
it tends to be something more like unity, diversity, reunion. And so this will often
sometimes lead, this will often lead to a different view of creation and sometimes even a different
doctrine of God. That's why in origin you have pre-existent souls. So origin, who is the biggest
influence toward universalism in all of church history, arguably, has this idea of pre-existent
souls. That's not an incidental part of the universalism. That's an important thing. You can put this
very briefly from one, this passage in origin and is on first principles when he says, the end is always
like the beginning. This is how universalism is often working out. It's understood as this kind of
recalling of things back to their original state. So that's why I'm muting my phone here. That's why
origin is so insistent on Javier texting me. He'll probably watch this. That's why he has
pre-existent souls as such an integral part. That's why that was so controversial. This is
all together. Put it, and that's why, you know,
Universalism is often seen by these early Christians as metaphysically necessary. It's what must happen.
Let me just give an example of this to help show how this is playing out.
Later on, a bit after origin, you have Stephen Barr Soudali, who's a Syriac mystic in the 5th century.
He writes this book, and he's advocating for universalism, and this is being contested by his contemporaries
like Jacob of Surag and phyloxenus of Mabag. And the concern that comes up is panthe
So, for example, here's what Stephen says, and listen to the logic of this. All things are destined
to be commingled in the Father. Nothing perishes and nothing is destroyed. Nothing is annihilated.
All returns. All is sanctified. All is made one. So just pausing there, those words, all returns,
sum up what I'm trying to get at here. This is a common universalist view. You saw again there,
the 1st Corinthians 1528 passage, God shall be all in all. But it's this ontological framework.
What makes Stevens theology so problematic is this idea that basically the world is consubstantial
with God. And he's, in other words, he's not just turning up the volume on God's love and grace
toward everyone. He's actually reducing the distinctness between God and the world.
Here's how he goes on. Demons receive grace and men receive mercy. The distinct.
Distinctions that are below are abolished and everything becomes one thing.
And then even talks about God.
Distinctions in God are sort of abolished.
Now, of course, what Stephen is saying here is more radical than other expressions of universalism,
but I'm citing this to show one example of this vision of oneness that's often driving
the boat.
Even where you don't have pantheism, you often find this idea that all things must return
to their source.
So you're not just changing chapter 29.
You're changing chapters 1 through 28 as well.
It's a vision of everything.
And this becomes a great irony because universalism aims to increase God's love and grace.
But it risks actually reducing them by making them necessary.
Because rather than a God who chooses freely to give grace, in contingent circumstances,
you have this crushing ontological monism where all things were turned.
to their original source. And that does have a lot of association with Gnostic ideas, as David
Bracky points out here, you can read this quote. Now, again, a lot of people are going to come along and
say, well, those are just some eccentric features of patristic universalism. You know, we can lop those
off. We don't have to go with origins idea of pre-existent souls. We don't have to have this
pantheistic vision that some mystics had. Just lop off all those things and just keep that all
shall be saved. In other words, leave chapters 1 through 28 the same, and let's just make changes to
chapter 29. But here's the thing. There's a reason why this ontological vision of oneness so often
undergirds universalism, because it's hard to see what grounds it apart from that. Put it like
this. If you lose the primordial unity, what confidence do you have for eschatological unity?
without this foundation that all things are one, what is our confidence that every creature will
choose God, that every creature will be saved? The concern here is a deficient view of evil.
Why can't it be that Satan will forever hate God? And that certain demons will forever hate God.
And here's the scary thought that certain human beings will forever hate God.
And this is where the sort of practical consequence of this discussion plays out is this
sobering reality that it's possible to enter into a state of permanent, irrevocable enmity toward God
and judgment from God. And the upshot of that is an urgent reminder of the need to repent.
And this is why universalism has this very real street-level consequence, especially in how it
typically plays out, that we want to tell people, the choices that we make every day between good
and evil are literally shaping eternity, and their consequence and reverberation goes on forever.
And reality is a dialectic. Created reality is a dialectic. Good and evil are forever expanding
apart from one another. It's a different vision of everything. And that seems to be what I think
the scripture teaches. So I hope this very broad overview of the early church contributes to this
discussion, obviously so much more to say, especially about scripture on this topic.
If you're interested in more on the nature of hell, I do have one academic.
article in Bibliotheca Sacra, a theological journal that's on C.S. Lewis's view of hell. It's called
a losing battle against reality. You might be interested in that. I'll put a link at the video description.
There's lots of other questions I want to explore in other videos. I want to do a study on annihilationism
and the nature of hell and those things. I've obviously not gotten into that here.
My next video, though, is going to be a critique of full preterism, which I consider to be one of the
fastest growing and most dangerous eschatological views. So keep your eyes peeled for that. That's the
idea that everything's already happened and we're already in the new heavens and the new earth,
which I consider to be just about the worst form of theology imaginable because it takes away all our
hope. But it's more common than you'd think, and so I'm going to make a video on that. All right,
thanks for watching, everybody. Let me know what you think in the comments.
