Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash - #145 Only Thing Hughesy Loves More Than A Gig… Is His Family

Episode Date: May 18, 2025

Dave Hughes is a comedian, radio host, and chaotic dad of three. His stories about fatherhood, fame, and the time he got way too high on weed gummies in Hawaii. Hughesy opens up about growing up with an alcoholic father, getting punched by Brother O’Brien at school, and the moment he met his wife Holly. Matty J and Ash talk pocket money dramas with his kids, the realities of raising teenagers, and whether he’s actually serious about having more children at this stage of life. BUY OUR SMELLY T SHIRTS HERE  https://www.twodotingdads.com/category/all-products Buy our book, which is now available in-store! https://www.penguin.com.au/books/two-doting-dads-9781761346552  If you need a shoulder to cry on:  Two Doting Dads Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/639833491568735/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheTwoDotingDads  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/twodotingdads/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@twodotingdads   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome back to Three Doting Dads. I am Matty J. I'm Ash. And I'm Dave, Huzy Hughes. And thanks for having me. Thanks for including me. Thanks for widening your doting dad circle. It is an absolute pleasure. You are now a doting dad. And Huzy, in case you didn't realize, this is a podcast all about parenting.

It is the good, it is the bad. And the relatable. Now Ash and I, for legal reasons, are not allowed to give advice. Yep. We are mandated by a legal team. But there's a loophole. The guests are allowed to give advice.

Oh, great. So if you do have any. I do. I'm full of it. And as Matty knows from our time in the I'm a Celebrity Jungle, I'm full of advice. He's a wise man. Shock-a-black.

I can't wait. And that's why you're here. Thank you. To enlighten us. Good. To enlighten the listeners. And enlighten myself. You know, often I come up with gems.

I go, oh my god. That's helped me. You'll be on the bus right home after this going, fuck, often I come up with a jam, and I go, oh my God, that's how me. You'll be on the bus ride home after this going, fuck, I just. I'm a genius, I'm a parenting genius, I don't even know it. I do have to say, we are, of course, at my kitchen table.

I have a set of school shoes arriving. You go back to school. Not me, fucking Marley's just grown out of her school shoes. Yeah. So I had to order another pair. They will arrive, I think, during the record. And when anyone knocks on the door, Buster will bark.

Like we're being robbed. Okay, so there's a knock and there's barking. No one knows what it's for. I've got a wife who spends, I think, most of her nights buying stuff online. And then she goes to work and so I'm the one who has to be there during the day so it happens a lot in my house.

Just wanted to manage expectations. Yeah, fine. Dave, I want to talk about what life was like growing up. I'm assuming it was super yachts, helicopters, not far from what life is like right now. Yeah, so thank you for that assumption. But no, I grew up in a country town in Victoria called Warrnambool, which is, it's got about maybe 30,000 people now,

it was probably 20,000 when I was growing up. Yeah, so we weren't in the rich part of town, we're in the commission house area of town, West Warrnambool, the emphasis on West, real West as. And so yeah, it was a different time. It was more the Wild West, really, in the 70s, you know. So there was like dogs would roam the streets. No dogs ever like had to stay in yards. They would just roam the streets

and they would get run over quite often. Any dog attacks? Yeah, a few, yeah. There was streets you wouldn't want to ride your bike down because the dogs in that street were angry. So yeah, more attacks than they are now. And dogs could survive the attacks. It was less likely the dog would get taken to the farm,

if you know what I mean, if it bit a kid. Basically the kid would have to look inside themselves and go, why did that dog bite me? This is a podcast all about dog attacks. What about school? We would assume that all about dog attacks. With Dave Hughes. What about school? We would assume that you would be the class clown at school.

I was a shy kid. No. Especially early in primary school, I was pretty shy, yeah. So I remember walking around and not speaking to anyone for probably the first month or two of, you know, and I was just like,

how can I get involved in that game of footy or something? So yeah, it took me a while to warm up. But once I warmed up and became comfortable, yes, then the humor would flow from me, especially in high school. I started, year 10, 11, and 12, started being pretty funny, yeah.

Did you get in a lot of trouble or were you well behaved? Punched in the head by a Christian brother once. By who,? A Christian brother. So yeah. What's a Christian brother? Christian brother. You know what a Christian brother is? No, Enlighteners. Oh, so I went to my high school was at CBC, Christian Brothers College. A Christian brother, they're Catholic, but they're not priests. So they don't do the like the ceremonies that priests do, you know, like they don't say mass, but they are sworn to celibacy and they hang out with other men and they hang out in a house.

And punch kids. And punch kids. Look, I think there is, I mean, there's not many left. It's a dying breed. It seems like they're disciples. What's the difference? They just follow the priest around? They sort of are, yeah they are.

They're like, again, sworn to celibacy. So that's the- So that's no sex, right? So no sex without the title. No wonder they're dwindling. I know, and yeah, and some of them were nice, but some of them were really angry. And I think it might've been sexual frustration.

I don't know, but- Did you do something that warranted the punch in the head? It was Brother O'Brien. And Brother O'Brien was, he was our year 11 religious education teacher amongst other subjects he taught. And he wasn't respected, Brother O'Brien. I remember Brother O'Brien walking down the corridor one day and there was probably 50 to 60 kids started chanting,

Brother is shagging the cleaner. So. Oh my God. So. And. Talk about poking the bear. Yeah. I wonder what set him off.

I don't know. And so. Did you lead the chant? What was your involvement? No, I was probably just laughing at the chant. I didn't know. And it was, yeah, I found it funny. But he didn't.

He had the rhythm drums to make sure everyone's in tune. Yeah. But brother. Brother sh in there. Yeah. But brother. Brother Shaggy, yeah. On my first standup comedy gig, I reckon was in brother O'Brien's year 11 religious class where I hadn't prepared a speech on some holy figure

and I just started improving. And the whole class were just killing themselves, laughing. It was the moment. I thought, here we go, I've got something here. And that class had to judge the speeches and I got 10 off every class member. It was an incredible moment in my life,

like winning an Academy Award. And, but Brother O'Brien failed me in that subject. One of the only subjects I failed in high school was that year 11 religious education class because of that speech, I believe. And you know what? But that's what propelled me to do comedy. So worth it. But he didn't punch me in the head that day.

This other day, we're sitting there and my mate of mine, Moose, was sitting near me. Moose, the big guy. I love how I love how everyone has like a mate named Moose or something like that. That just was, that was the- Moose ended up being a policeman. So, and I wouldn't have ever given him a gun to be honest. But, so Moose was flicking spit balls,

little bits of paper that he'd like lick and then just roll up and he was flicking them at brother O'Brien at the front of the class. And brother O'Brien didn't see what was happening. And he probably had put 15 to 20 spitballs on Brother O'Brien, for that Brother O'Brien knowing. And then Brother O'Brien looked up

and realized he was covered in saliva-ridden paper. And he looked up, I was the only one who had seen what was happening. So no one else in the class had seen what I'd seen, because I'd seen Moose doing it. And Brother O'Brien looked up, saw that I was smiling, thought it must have been me. And then he walked to the back of the class

and I wasn't at the back of the class. I was like towards the front. And I didn't, you don't do a turnaround, but I had no idea. And then I just, it was almighty whack where his king hit me from behind. His coward punched you in a classroom. Dog acts by brother Brian.

Brother O'Brien? Brother O'Brien. Brother O'Brien. Brother O'Brien. He's coward punched me and you know and because I didn't want to snitch on Moose, I couldn't say to him, I did not deserve that. Yeah. Because but I was almost concast.

Thank god you didn't blame Moose, there's gonna be another person getting coward punched know. He's a big guy as well to be honest. Did he lose his job? No, because I didn't report it. Smart. Smart. You wouldn't have missed it. But he wouldn't have anyway. Back then, that was before they got rid of, you know, what's the word, capital? Not capital. Corporal punishment. Not capital punishment. Corporal punishment. So back then, you were allowed to hit kids. Did you, when you were at primary school, were they still using the cane? There was Miss Hunter.

Yeah, Miss Hunter. And she was like 80, she was in my sister's grade, which was a year above me. And I remember I heard rumours that everyone was like, Miss Hunter, if you get her class, cause she's 80, she's from like the older generation. She was still caning kids. And I thought for some reason, no one really stopped her.

Yeah, they were just like, we'll just wait till she retires. Till she dies or she retire. It's funny, like, like that you can imagine when they were like, look, guys, we're not allowed to hit the students anymore. And all the teachers are going to be like, oh, well, fuck, what do we even do this job for? Miss Hunter was like, well, I'm fucking leaving then. She's protesting. No way I'll give her three more years.

Oh mate yeah but it would have been a shocking moment. For in this Christian Brothers College the moment where you weren't allowed to hit kids that's weird you know because there's a lot of kids every day some kid was getting like a meter roll or just snapped in half over their arse. It's a different time. What was your relationship like with your mum and dad, Huzy? Look, my mum was, it was again, it was a time where,

it was a big drinking culture in my hometown. So yeah, so it was a different time where, look, dad drank a lot. I've talked about this before. But he's, yeah, so that could be tricky when your dad is a big drinker, as you know, Matty. So, so yeah, that was. As in you're walking on eggshells.

Yeah, absolutely. Because his mood would just go, he'd just get, you know, he'd end up angry, you know. So it was hard. And so, and he was, he was a shift worker as well for many years. That's not good for your mental health. So they're like starting work at midnight or starting work at, you know, anyway, there was alcohol and shift work. The combination made life pretty tense in our house for a number of years, really. So, and then I stopped drinking

before I turned 22. And so this, yeah, so. Do you think growing up with a dad who had a drinking problem played into the fact that you were aware of what alcohol can do to people and made you want to stop? Absolutely. I mean, I don't want to sound like I'm holier than thou, though, or give myself too much credit. But you know what? I didn't want my kid's life to be as stressful as mine because of alcohol.

So I saw the, I think it's genetic. I reckon some people just shouldn't drink. What do you mean by stressful as a child? I mean, as a child, you shouldn't be stressed really about anything other than your friends and- Getting punched by brother O'Brien. Punched by brother O'Brien. If your dad's basically, you know,

some of the time unhinged because of alcohol, that's just stressful for kids, you know? It's scary. Just not knowing what's gonna, you know. He was never really physically violent actually, I've got to say that. But yeah, but yeah, but it was still the threat of what could happen.

You think what is going on here? So yeah, so that was for a number of years. Be like an emotional roller coaster. Yeah, absolutely, definitely. I remember like there was five kids in my family and there was always with four boys, there's always something that was going to be broken or damaged.

And we felt like dad used to kind of like walk the house, looking for something. I know, I know what you're talking about. What was it like for you? Yeah, like sometimes what come out, just be just looking for something to get angry at, basically, so grab like a broom and then find some cobwebs in the top corner of like a ceiling,

don't I mean, and just go look at this and just lose the plot for just crazy reasons. So no reason, yeah, sometimes like he definitely wants to be angry, whose turn is it today? Who's gonna cop it? So it's like wow. How do you avoid that with the kids in your family? Oh, it's hard, but I was the youngest,

so maybe I got off a bit easier than some of the others in my, yeah. But it was, yeah, look, it was stressful. And, you know, we loved our parents. And mum was great, and dad could be great. But yeah, we sort of getting out of the house was a, there was no staying at home till you're 30 because you didn't want to.

It was too stressful, basically. So let's get out, basically leave. How old were you when you left home? I was 18 when I first left and just after high school. And then, yeah, I came back because I got evicted from, I was a bad drinker too. So we got evicted from a house. They ended up coming back home,

which that was because I didn't know where I was to live. But you know what, I remember I live in a house, they used to callicted from a house. They ended up coming back home, which that was, cause I didn't know where else to live. But you know what, I remember we were, I live in a house, I used to call it the mad house. So at the age of 18, I moved in with four mates and we just, we were crazy. And it was like, we'd all drawn it like, we're everyone had drink stubbies in the lounge room. And then someone would just throw a stubby into a wall.

And then you'd- As you do. Everyone else would be smashing glass. And then you'd like walk around- Bloody moose. With glass. That's moose, wasn't it? When I was in moose then,

I know moose was involved a bit, but yeah, but then, so it was a crazy house actually. Now I think about it. We'd done a crazy house when I was 18 or 19. We had feral cats move into the house. That's not good. Sounds like bats house. Yeah.

Is this in Waterpool or is this Melbourne? Is this in Waterpool? Andool or is this Melvin? Is this in Warrnambool? And then... Animals just running the suburbs. We eventually got evicted from this house and then I went home and I took all my bedding home, but I had like, I brought home scabies to my parents. What? What are scabies?

Scabies are like little lice that live in your bedding when you're... Oh, like a bed bug? Yeah, it's bed bugs and like... That would really set your old man off. When you're like... No, it was not like asexual disease. No, I thought it was like the 18th century, like sailors would get scabies. That's scurvy.

Scurvy. I see the confusion. And then my parents got... I brought home scurvy from the share house. And then my parents, both parents end up with this terrible skin condition because of the lice-infested bedding I brought home. And you're like, oh, my fucking dad's gonna... From this house I've been evicted from.

But you know, I stopped drinking not long after that, actually. So anyway, so... When you talk about the fact that you're bringing scabies back home, you fucking got smashed VB tallies on the floor. Your life sounds like a bit of a mess. Feral cats. For one of it, yeah, you've got feral cats.

Did they follow you home or not? No, no, feral cats did not follow us. I'm thankful for that, but that was a terrible time. Was it a real fork in the road moment when you stopped drinking that life got on track? Yeah, it was, absolutely. So I came back and lived with my parents and my father had probably, he'd stopped doing shift work by now.

So life was easier. He was still like, you know, would still drink every day, but he was calmer than what he had been when I was younger, to be honest. So that was, you know, it was fine. It was okay to live at home then. But yeah, but I was really depressed and I was like, and I sort of connected it to the drinking, I think.

And then so, and I just decided to stop because I would always get out of control when I drank. So I decided to stop. And yeah, so I stopped before I turned 22 and I started feeling better straight away. And yeah, so it was then it was like, you know, that was 1992 was my last drink. So yeah, so, and yeah, so, and I was 21.

So it was a big thing to do. And like kids that age are like, you know, party, party, party. So I've just gone full party mode. If other people weren't drinking, I was like, why aren't you drinking? Why do you hate us? You know, we're having a good time

and you're ruining it because you're us? You know, we're having a good time and you're ruining it because you're sober. You know, leave basically. So I was that guy to being the guy who didn't drink. So yeah, it was weird for my friends for a while. But then I didn't know being the designated driver. And so they were happy with that. I mean, I had some terrible driving experiences with drunks in my car. Yeah, I bet.

I had a guy, look he's- Moose. Not Moose, another guy. He's no longer with us, but he, once I was doing, I was so annoyed by him. I was doing like 80 Ks driving. This is in Perth. I moved to Perth not long after I stopped drinking and he was another guy from Wonderful. He was so crazy that I was driving down this beach road in Perth and I was so annoyed with him

he but he climbed out of the car window of the passenger side and Onto the bonnet, but I was so annoyed at him that I didn't want to I wanted I wanted to I wanted him to fall off The car but so I'm driving you did start this was like he's no longer with us He was always gonna die young but it was, he's staring through the window at me. I'm doing 80Ks. I'm going to just put your head down. I want to see where I'm going. And I was trying to, I remember trying to like get him off

on a corner, like so I had him, he'd roll off the car. But he held onto the windscreen wipers. Oh good, good. And I did not want to break the windscreen wipers. He's done this before. Yeah. He knows what he's doing. That was a crazy, that was a crazy time. Did he come off?

No. He didn't come off then, but he was- Crawled back into the window and into the bathroom? He was crazy. I remember once when- Or did you get to the destination at his house and he'd, thank you, jumps off the- No, we were living together, Tom.

Oh, God. it was terrible. Remember once we were sitting in a lounge room, like watching Wheel of Fortune or something and he said, I'm bored. But, and then, so he just grabbed the really heavy lounge chair and just, just picked it up and then just dropped it on his own head. And he's just, he went back sitting there and just bleeding, watching television. Just sat back down like nothing happened.

Oh, that's a psychopath. That down like nothing happened. Yeah, sat down like. Oh, that's a psychopath. That's what that is. Well, yeah. Yeah, anyway. Wheel of Fortune will do that to people. Oh, no, yeah. It's like the wheel keeps spinning around.

Someone stop it. So like, 92 is when you stopped drinking. Yes. Do you remember the year that you met Holly? Yeah, 2002. 10 years later. And by then, and not to pass your ego, you were doing very well for yourself. I was, yeah. I just started doing radio in Melbourne. I'd started a TV show as well

on the ABC. So yeah, I was the guy. Which is, it's weird that you met in a bar because you're sober. Yeah. But that's where you guys cross paths. Yes, she barely drinks as well to be honest. Which is good. I mean, I've said this a million times, but if you don't drink, you want to be with someone who doesn't drink. If you're like, you know, a full-time heroin junkie, you want to be with another full-time heroin junkie. That's love. That's love.

Then you can get through, I reckon. You've got to be on the same page as your partner. When they say soul mate, that's exactly what that means. Yeah. So you see, you know, a crackhead couple walking down the street and then, you know, they're in love. It's beautiful. They're fighting, but they're... Can't wait for their crack baby.

It's what they do. It's cute. They fight together, the family. Anyway, so yeah, so we met in a bar. It was just a fluke on a Friday night. We both happened to be in the same bar. She was with a group of blokes actually. She just broke up with her boyfriend

and these blokes came up to say good day to me because they'd recognize me and I saw her behind them. And yeah, she was stunning. And I'm like, my God, that woman's beautiful. And then we got talking and her friends left and my friends were leaving as well. So I was like, this is perfect. And then one of my friends who had no money

and I lived with him at the time, not Moose or the other guy, he said, I've got no money, you're driving. I said, well, sorry, I'm talking to this person here. So just walk. Yeah, piss off. He wouldn't, he refused to walk. And I said, oh God, I said, can he, I said,

I'll give you money for a taxi. I didn't have any money on me. I said, let's walk to the ATM. I'll get your money so you can piss off. And as we're walking to the ATM, she started talking to him. I thought, does she want him? This, I don't like this. Um, and so I got annoyed at him and I said to her, we're going to go.

So I drove him home yelling at him and, uh, cause it didn't come with you. She didn't come with you didn't come with it he cock-blocked her that's what he said yeah and she'd given she just started as a journalist at one of the local newspapers and she'd given me her card but then she gave him her card I'm like what that's confusing that was annoying to me that was the moment mother I don't like this and so I don't want him to so I yelled him as we were as we drove I'm I said you should walk mate you should get on the water be it Yeah, bro code, man.

Bro code, man. Get the fuck out of here. It's only like a 6K walk at night. Is that all? And you're pissed, easy. Exactly, exercise for you. But anyway, so talked about it on the radio on the Monday and her friends apparently were listening to the radio

and they rang her or texted her and then she called in to the radio station. Didn't go on air, but she said to our producer, I was just being friendly to your friend. And I said, hang on, maybe I'm a chance. So I rang her that day and we went out. So your producer said, Huzy, she's on the phone now.

She wouldn't go on air but she said, yeah, but she got the, yeah, she got the story. I got the story that she was possibly keen. So that gave me the impetus to ring her that day. And then we went to IMAX that night. And it was that night? Yeah, that night. What'd you see?

I had free tickets. So we saw some 3D thing. It was like a space thing. It was a short thing. It was only like 45 minutes maybe. Yeah, good. That's all you needed to be. Yeah, but we had these massive helmets on.

The 3D things there were... You look beautiful tonight, good. That's all you needed to be. Yeah, but we had these massive helmets on. The 3D things there were... You look beautiful tonight, Dal. I know, like you're going to space yourself or something. So, yeah, but that was the... Yeah, so that night, from that night, we still been together. Did you ever ask her why she gave two cards away? One to you, one to your friend? Well, she said she was just being nice.

I don't know if she was playing the field or not at the time. She was just playing the seed. Yeah, she was just walking around the park here. I know. So she was proud of her cards, you know, laminated cards. Your first card is pretty cool. Laminated? Get out of town. You would have got a laminated card. My used car salesman cards weren't laminated. They were just flimsy cardboard. I remember getting a card as a salesman somewhere. I think I worked at Optus or something and I didn't make any money, but I had a card, you know, so yeah

I have a card you feel like you're you're like winner My grandmother has all of my cards and all of my dad's business cards in a folder So we should find that because I've had an array of different When I was a printer salesman, she'd love that card Hasn't had a card have you never had a card? No, I did I did I did have had one in London and it was just as a shame because it was right at the end of the card phase. So like it was always like, it was kind of laughable to hand one out. But I was still, I was like, Holly, I was, I'd get a coffee and-

You were just dishing them out of your pocket. Yeah. I never, it was never handed out with much purpose. Yeah. I'll look, I think I was, I never really, I think I just gave it to my grandmother. Can I give a shout out to all salespeople here? They work really hard. Salespeople work so hard. That is an absolute lie.

No, I used to sell used cars. If you're working on commission, they do. Yeah. Yeah. It's dog eat dog. It's every day the scoreboard gets like a race. You've got to start again every day. Really hard work.

Salespeople, well done. They're the backbone of this nation. They are. And I shouldn't hang up on you as much as I do. No, yeah. I'm not talking about Nigerian salespeople. They're fine. They're great.

I don't hang up on them. You know when You wait for that silence on the call. Do you answer the call? I don't get any. I'm not getting any of the texts from Cloud Karma. I'm not getting any of the sales calls from Nigeria. I'm missing out. You got a private number, some weird sort of thing. He's one of those guys with a private number. No, I'm open. I'm waiting for it. He's like, come on. No, I don't get his prank calls anymore. So I've had the same number for, I reckon, 25 years, maybe longer. And I used to, like, on Saturday nights, I'd be like, answer the phone.

Uh, Eugene. Yep, it's Jimmy. I don't know you. Yeah, you do. No, I don't. You do. And that was enough for me. Now they don't call anymore, man. It's really sad. I don't answer. I'm part of the generation that's scared to answer their phone anymore.

In case it's bad news. Yeah, right. I don't need bad news. I answer like three. In case you end up giving your left kidney to someone. Yeah, and I'm that persuadable. I'm gonna run for our, I only really answer his calls and my wife's calls.

That's probably about it. Thank you. That's enough though. It's enough. That's enough for me. Do you remember who was yourself or Holly who spearheaded the baby making process? I was her, yeah, absolutely. I wasn't over that.

I wasn't like, you know, someone, I wasn't yearning. I didn't realize I had a yearn. There was no yearn for me for children, but she was straight away, like straight away. She was being maternal forever, basically. So not a nightclub person. So I think there's two types of people, maternal people and nightclub people.

So she wasn't a nightclub person. So she was like early on in the relationship, I remember saying, and I did a joke about it, but she said, can we have kids in three years? I'm like, this is early on. I'm like. Before you were married. Yeah.

Just planning three years out. We're going out, we were probably been out three months when she said that. What? Yeah, real early. And I'm like, I mean, I said, no, I'm not sure about that, but we're gonna have fishing ships tonight. So let's just leave it in the moment. Starts from there.

Yeah, so, yeah, but she was always really keen. So we took six years to have, our first one was 2009. So seven years before we first had our son. Oh, you made her, so she wanted three, you made her wait twice as long. She wanted more than three, she wanted more than three kids. She wanted, yeah, actually, yeah, so I made her make double that, you're right, good maths.

Thank you. But yes, but she, I thought you said three kids, but no, you didn't, you were talking about earlier, I understand what you're both saying. Did you do that thing, it was like, every time you mentioned I'm gonna double the years you got away. But you know what, once we had him, I was, you didn't. You were talking about earlier. I understand what you're both saying. Did you do that thing? It was like, every time you mentioned, I'm gonna double the years you got away. But you know what? Once we had them, I was, you know,

as you guys know, once you have one, you're like, you're in love. And I, yeah, I was very happy to have three. And I actually wanted to have more. And she, I thought she wanted to have five initially, but she's like, she said, if you want to have more, if we're gonna have more kids, you need to stop, you know, touring stand-up comedy.

So I said, all right, no, three's enough. Yeah, so I gave up more children because I love stand-up comedy. I said, that's my first love. I just love it more than, I don't love more than my children. Don't get me wrong, but as much. So you got three. You have to caveat that, by the way. We can, after record, you can be honest and tell us.

Yeah. You got three. And I don't know if you've heard, and tell us. Yeah, you got three. And I don't know if you've heard, but our young man over here. I know, I have heard my wife and children pass on their congratulations. Thank you very much. And me, and to me. But do you have any tips for a third with Matt? Matt's been debating for a while and now it's happening.

Educate the man. Three is a lot harder. Yeah, no doubt. Three, two is easy. Two is easy. One each. Three. It's much more work than you would have thought, you know. See, I get really conflicting messages. I have some people say once you're in that realm of multiple kids, adding a third is no big deal. But why was it, what's harder about it? I don't know. I think you're outnumbered and I'm not the first one to say that, but yeah. And it's just, just one each.

You can, you've got two and you've got two parents, you can both, you know, manage one of them. So, but an extra one is. Right. Yeah. Just hear me out for a second. Okay. I'm listening.

If it's two on two. Did you say sports analogy? Let's go. I feel like this is my, yeah'm listening. If it's two on two. Did you say sports analogy? Let's go. I feel like this is my, yeah. Yeah, you have safe space here. But once a team is then has like, if someone gets sinned and a team is one up a player, it's all over. Yeah.

Yeah. But also let me flip that for you. Please. Okay, sometimes the team that has the player sent off stand up. That's true. And actually win the game. Cause they're like, yeah, I hear what you're saying. They're going with extra motivation.

We're not gonna let the fact that one of our players got concussed or, you know, sent off because they can concuss someone else. Not gonna let that beat us. So yeah, so yeah, I mean, you'll be fine, but it is a lot of work. So don't think it's not. And it's not, I don't think it's,

it's not like an extra 33% work. It's more than that. I reckon it's an extra 50% work. Even though it's one child. So you would say your third was, that was the hardest transition of all. I think so, yeah, absolutely. But at the time, we had three kids,

while we had the three kids, I was doing breakfast radio. I was doing nightly TV show, I was doing a weekend TV show, and I was touring standup comedy. So I probably wasn't home that much to be honest, but I was involved on the phone. Do you remember their names? No, I do.

No, I do jokes. They can watch me on TV whenever they want to. Three then and three now. They're older. Yeah. Would you say three now is like, glad you had the three and it's much more fun? Yeah, no.

It would be awkward if you said no. Not yet. I can say, I hand on heart, it is, yeah, we're glad we got the three and they're good. They're self-contained. I do, we drive them everywhere though. So that's one thing is, you know, the show for service just never ends.

And you know, I've bought them bikes, which are good bikes, you know, which they could ride. And I'm happy for them to ride them, but they just don't. They just get a lift. My son gets a lift to the gym. I'm happy he's going to the gym,

don't get me wrong, but home from the gym, just fucking, just lifts all the time. He could exercise to the gym, then gym, and then exercise home. He could. He could. He could ride his bike. I've actually heard it's an issue this country is facing, that kids don't know how to ride bikes anymore.

My wife doesn't know how to ride a bike, and she's in her 30s. See, that's a rarity. That is a rarity. Kids aren't riding bikes anymore. Well, because my, that's, see, that's a rarity. Look at his face. That's a rarity. That is a rarity. Kids aren't, kids aren't riding bikes anymore. Well, because my parents are too worried. Like back in, look, look, this is, I mean, it's, it's, it's a, like back in the seventies, parents had more kids.

So they'd have like five or four. Four was a minimum, really. Some would have seven or eight. And you know what? They'd lose the odd kid. Do you know what I mean? They're just like, the odd kid would get hit by a truck. That's just happened.

Is this just wantable or is this? Just happened, it was the 70s, mate. Yeah. So then you go to a funeral and you know, and there was one less kid in that family, but they already had a number of kids, so they had spares. So now people aren't having spares.

You'd have, yeah, you'd have- True, very true. You'd have one extra for contingency. Yeah, or two or three extra. I've got a mate of mine who's one of 18 children. Fuck. No, true story. My grandfather was one of 14.

Yeah, 14. You're right, they lose a kid. They would lose a kid every year. So yeah. They got extras. They got extras. 18 kids. 18's big and no twins.

No twins. No twins? No, no. Dairy farmers and yeah, you know you would've. Yeah, well. Do they milk that cow? But also you've got to keep, you need to keep your cows pregnant to get milk. You know that?

Milk only comes from cows that are continually pregnant. So, okay. So, I don't know if he had the same idea with his wife. But yeah, 18 is a big effort. Was it a hard adjustment for yourself, Hughzy, when you stopped doing breakfast radio? No, no. Look, our latest radio show sort of got halted, you know, towards the end of last year. And it was a shock for a moment.

How do they deliver that news? Well, it's delivered it quickly, I suppose. But yeah, so now it's like, really? Yeah, all right. Yeah, so there, but so it was a shock for a moment, blow to the ego, I would say as well. But then quickly became joyful, really joyful. And what was joyful about it?

Just, you know what, anyone who does break the straight or anyone who had to get up really early would know. For me, I've never been a great sleeper. So it was like every night, oh God, it's nine o'clock, I should be in bed. It's 9.30, I should be in bed. It's 10 o'clock, I'm in bed. I'm not asleep, I should be asleep.

It's 10.30, I'm still not asleep. So that was like- You're gonna get four hours. Yeah, I know. I don't want to look at the clock. And so I can't look at it. And so that's stressful. Because I never really had a proper routine over 20 years or more.

Oh wow. So yeah, which is annoying. And then kids come along and they're on their own agendas. And when they're little, they go to bed earlier. It's great. But then they get older and then they're staying up. And so you're going to bed and everyone else is awake. And then you're like, then you're not asleep anyway.

You should have stayed awake. So, yeah, every night. And then I do stand up comedy now. I can just relax. I don't have to go on first. I'm happy to go on last. So, yeah, it's I'm really happy. Was it hard to slot in to the morning routine?

Because you would have always been at radio when the kids are getting ready for school. No, not. Is Holly like, Dave, you're making this harder. Look, she still does the lunches, which is I feel bad about, but she's really lent into it. She's a full-time school teacher, but she does the lunches before she goes to school. And so at the moment, I'm getting up around seven. She probably gets up a quarter to seven, but she's working hard. I'm involved and I always unpack the dishwasher in the morning.

I'm like, don't do that, I'll do that. I drive the kids to school. I am, I don't sit down much anymore. I'm like, I will tidy the house. And I've stopped getting angry at the kids and the fact that they don't tidy. You know, kids should tidy. Actually, no, I still get angry at that.

But I'm cleaning up a lot. So I'm doing a lot around the house. My no, I still get angry at that. But I'm cleaning up a lot. So I'm doing a lot around the house. My wife's very happy, which is good. So we're happy. Are you enjoying the transition from being busy, busy, busy to now being more of a dad? Are you enjoying that process?

Look, I really enjoy, I do enjoy being with the kids. And my son, for instance, he's basketball, he plays rep basketball and I'm driving to the games most times, I mean, it's a bit more standup comedy happening now, so I'm not, I do it quite as much, but I'm still mainly there. So yeah, I love that sort of, that relationship we have with my son and he's basketball.

So he's been playing rep basketball since under 12s, I think, so which is a Friday night. And it's, you might have to drive up to an hour and a half on a Friday night to get to some game in the middle of nowhere basically. So the two of us though have got a real Friday night ritual and we get on, you know, we, I mean, I will yell at him and he'll yell back at me.

So like, we're like, I often score basketball, I'm scoring. And then I think if he's not switched down, I'll switch and I'll go, switch on, mate. And he'll yell at me, I am. I said, you're not. You haven't scored yet, mate. You're six foot six. What are you doing? Is he six foot six? He's six foot six. How old is he?

He turned 16 the other day. He's a good boy. Goodness. I'm getting a lot of this, like when we're in, like we were at the dentist two days ago. The three kids are the dentist. They're like, you know, and good on them. So I took pick them up from school early, taking the dentist and get it done. And their teeth are great, by the way.

And which is what they don't do is they don't drink soft drink. And I drank soft drink all through. And I wasn't a rich kid, but we drank soft drink. I drank, and my teeth had, and the dentist said, oh, they don't want to get teeth like yours. I'm like, oh my goodness. I've worked hard for these teeth. It's a bit hurtful.

And then, cause he sits with six, she goes, where'd he get his height from? You know? I'm like, well, that's hurtful. And then he goes- His mom's seven foot tall. Well, she goes, oh, I suppose your wife's tall, but she's not even that tall. She's like five, eight maybe? Yeah, I, that's hurtful. And then he goes- His mom's seven foot tall. Well, she goes, I suppose your wife's tall, but she's not even that tall.

She's like five, eight, maybe? Yeah, I'd say five, eight. She's not in the WNBA, is she? She's not that tall. So, and then in front of us- She's a pleasant height for people wondering. Good to know. In front of my son, he's like, he's mouth open,

because she said it must have been the milkman. Why would you say that, you know? It's kind of funny. But she's basically saying that to my son in the room, she's saying, he's not your dad. We're going to find him. Your mom rooted someone else. Maybe she was trying to be funny,

but at least it's easy to break up with a dentist. Like, because you don't see him that much. If it was a hairdresser, it'd be way more difficult. I know. You know what? And at the end of the, and I do like, I mean, I think she was trying to be funny, but it was still a bit hurtful. But at the end of the day, the kids teeth are good. So I am.

No cavities at all. Wow. Yeah, I know. I'm shocked. That is, that is a rarity. Well, there's no sugar, there's no sugar soft drinks these days. It is quite a fleck. I mean I, touch wood, I've never had a cavity myself. In your life. Never, never, not once.

Me either. Yeah, it's quite a fleck. I think I've had, I remember I got a cavity myself. And it's never, never, not once. Me either. Yeah. It's quite a flex. I think I've had, I remember I got a tooth out last year. Yes. That was my first. I'm missing, you know what, I'm missing 10 teeth. Okay. Wow.

Oh, I couldn't tell. Yeah. Well, I mean, you probably can, but it's, I've had one replaced because it was too close to the front and made me look too, you know, like this guy's, you know, he's sleeping rough. Yeah, you know what I mean? So I got one replaced. But yeah, I had my teeth for over the year. I had some shocking times at the dentist.

Back in the 70s and 80s, there wasn't much anesthetic. I remember getting a root canal, you know, where they, or you wouldn't know what a root canal, both of you don't know. A root canal is they take the whole root canal, you know, where they, you wouldn't know what a root canal, both of you don't know. A root canal is they take the whole root out of you, they dig it out. And the anesthetic hadn't worked. And on me, and I'm, there's a dentist digging a root

out of my mouth and it was either infected or the anesthetic hadn't worked. It was like Guantanamo Bay stuff. You're like screaming. I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? This is the worst pain of my life. It's exactly where the saying comes from. It's like pulling teeth.

That's exactly it. Oh yeah, and sometimes pulling teeth, where to get them out is so much work. Like three of them trying to get their tooth out. I don't know if it was like I'm born in the 1700s. And they would have also upsold you to a root canal. Because we had a joke where dentists are just mouth salesmen. So you go in for a checkup and they're like,

you need the most expensive thing we have, which is a root canal. Yeah. I'm sure your teeth were fine, actually. They just saw you come in and go, we'll get this guy. We'll get at least one out today. Well, I mean, they certainly got an ounce of blood out of me. It was terrible.

We get a lot of mixed feedback with the question of, should you give your kids pocket money? Yeah. I have always thought that it's a good idea. It allows them to understand the value of money. Yeah. What's your stance on that? Do your kids, do they get an allowance?

Do they have to do chores? How does that work? We've been so slack with that, to be honest. So they really never had to do chores. We've tried to institute it and it didn't work. We had like a thing up on the, you know, like a little spreadsheet up on the fridge at some point, but it hasn't worked.

So they don't really get pocket money, no, but they just want for nothing. Do you know what I mean? My son especially would just, he'd just text me, can I get an iced tea? And I have to put money in his account. Like he's at a 7-Eleven saying, I wanna get an iced tea. A six foot six.

Yeah, but so can you put some money in my account? So I go to my banking app and put money in his account so he can buy an iced tea and that happens a lot. So he, but he's got to get a job I've decided. He was basketball coaching, so coaching younger teams I know I should have done that. I never have. So, but he's put applications in for jobs, but nothing's come through. I'm like, what are you writing on these applications? You know, how can you not get a job? And he's like, I'm writing a job. And I'm like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job.

And I'm like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And I'm like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And I'm like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job.

And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job.

And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I'm writing a job. And he's like, I should have done that. I never have. So, but he's put applications in for jobs, but nothing's come through. I'm like, what are you writing on his applications? How can you not get a job at McDonald's when your bloody deadbeat mates working there? What's he got that you don't have? I think he's got the enthusiasm and he doesn't have a parent who's putting money

in his account every five minutes. Yeah. Cut off the supply maybe, you think? I know, I've got to do it. Once the iced tea runs out, he'll be there flipping burgers and all the time. He'll be like, I don't have iced tea money anymore. Yeah.

I mean, Huzy, you are a man who likes a holiday. Yes. Recently you were on a trip to Hawaii. Yes. But it didn't go to plan. No, I, look, I have been, I injured my shoulder about it was about 15, 16 months ago now.

And it was like dislocated. And it was- Was that through radio? No, surfing. It was on Newseed. So I'm surfing with my family. It was a surf lesson and my own board took a wave without me and just it coward punched me.

My own board hit me from behind and it took my shoulder, it dislocated my shoulder from behind which is apparently more painful than if it goes backwards. If it goes forwards apparently it's more painful. It was the most painful experience of my life and I'm just, I was on the beach in writhing in agony for like two hours. Is that here in Bondi? No it was in at the Gold Coast so and they didn't have green whistles at the Gold Coast. So the surf lifesavers don't, not the green whistle we used, suck on it.

They just don't have them. They're not letting, this guy's young bloke said, oh, the government took them off us because we misused them. So apparently they were like partying with the green whistles, the surf lifesavers. Why wouldn't you party with them? I know, but this club is in, you know, anyway.

So I was so painful and I eventually got the greenery so when I ended up, I've done a whole comedy routine about which is, you know, everything becomes comedy for me, but basically it was, I got endone, which is like heroin inside a pill basically, and that's, you only get one script of that because it's predictive. And then I ended up on medicinal marijuana

for the pain after my shoulder reconstruction. And... The gummies? The gummies, yeah. But on Honolulu, I said to my wife on the flight, I said, over to Honolulu, we're gonna be there 10 days. Because I didn't bring any gummies with me, thinking that she would go,

yeah, get on here, you don't need gummies. But she didn't say that. She said, why'd you tell me that? I said, I thought it was interesting. She said, how'd you tell me that? I said, I thought it was interesting. She said, how often are you having them? I said, not very often. And she said, well, it sounds like you are. I said, no, I'm not.

This is actually rehab for me. Yeah. So I'm like, well, anyway, it was a bit of information. And I immediately regretted having told her that. But four days into the trip, we went past a vape shop and I was hooked on vaping for a while, which happens, but I'm off that. That is hard. Nicotine is the hardest thing to get off. I reckon harder than anything

else. And I've given up a lot of stuff. Yep. One day I just quit smoking. Did you? Yeah. Ben never had- Half a day. Then I just went. Yeah, I do. I do wish, like a mate of mine said to me, it's a shame that you will never, talking to me,

you will never experience the joy of a morning coffee and a cigarette. And a Winnie Blue. And I, sometimes I wish I would have that and enjoy it. And I tried to smoke, but it- You don't need any more aids to help you shit, trust me. Yeah. It does help.

But yeah, the nicotine is, it's really good. Yeah, but it's too good though, because then you need it every five minutes. And it really takes over your life. Vaping took over my life. I couldn't, I'd be missing, you know, moments in basketball games, because I was in the, you know, of my children,

because I was in the- He went on the bench like- Disabled, I was in the disabled toilets vaping, you know? I was thinking, what am I doing? I'm in my 50s and I'm in a disabled toilet at some far flung basketball stadium sucking on a vape. And I appeared to be the only one in this whole bloody- Your son probably enjoyed the break though.

Yeah, thank God, thank God. Anyway, we went past the vape shop and we had a chat about me not vaping anymore and I can never vape again, I understand. At a vape shop? I can, I- You had that conversation with the guy who sells vapes. As we walked past, with my family, they were with me, yeah.

But I saw the sign that said THC Gummies on the sign or something and I thought, oh God, they sell gummies there in Honolulu. I didn't know it was legal. So the family went to the beach and I said, I'm gonna go find somewhere to watch the footy tonight and I'll see you at the beach and I went back to the gummy shop on the way to find a bar to watch the footy and I bought two barrels. I bought one barrel actually. It was 30 bucks.

That's outstanding value. It seemed to be like 200 in there. And I'm like, this can't, like must be so weak. Must be. That's what I thought. So I had two straight away in this like mid day in Honolulu and then nothing happened for 10 minutes. So I just had, I had, look, I had one more. I almost had two more, but I had one more. But then the three of them in another five minutes, just, I couldn't see.

I was like, I was so munted. I was't see. I was like, I was so munted. I was so paranoid. I was so confused. And I'm in Honolulu, my family's at the beach and I eventually got back to the hotel and it took a long time. I was just, didn't know where I was. But I got in my hotel room and I'm like,

I can go to sleep now. But then I realized it's midday and I slept in I don't know, and that's gonna be weird. So. Were you doing the thing where you're like, why am I breathing so loud? How do I breathe? And you're like, you can't figure out the root of the movie breath.

I was properly, I was on another planet. But I'm like, I've got to get to the beach to, cause my wife can't know I lied. Yeah, for sure. Cause I lied to her, you know, I lied and said I was gonna find the bar, but I really wanted to go to the gummy shop. You got to come clean.

And she's already suss on me. And so I said I've got to find the beach. So I put the swimmers on and I tried to find the beach and that took ages as well even though it was right next to the hotel. And eventually I'm ringing my wife going where are you and she was like where you are. She's like three meters away from me. And I've tried to act straight, I've got to act straight because she can't know I've lied to her. And then I swear to God, she's looked at me and she said to me, why are you wearing my shorts? And I had the most ridiculous shorts on

but I couldn't even work out why I had them on. And then I was just like, I don't know. And then the kids were out, it was really calm at Waikiki beach, it wasn't, but in my head there was a tsunami coming. And so I've ran out and my son again, he's six foot six. He might have been six foot four then. He's grown a bit lately, but,

and I'm dragging him in on a float. He's on a floaty. He's like just like he's on a calm water on a floaty and I'm dragging him in. He goes, what are you doing? I said, I'm bringing you to safety. And we're in like waist deep water. And he's like, what's wrong with you? And I said, nothing.

Just don't go back out there. And I said... Why have you got mom's shorts on? And apparently the kids didn't have any idea. They didn't know that I was stoned. My wife knew and she's like, you're an idiot. And I went back to the hotel then. I said, yeah, I'm stoned.

And she said, I know. I know you're wearing my underpantsoned. And she said, I know. I know you're wearing my underpants as well. I didn't get, I went back, went to bed and I didn't get up for the footy that night. So my son's like, why isn't dad getting up to watch the footy? He loves the footy. No, yeah, that was bad. So anyway. She's a patient woman.

What did you do with the rest of the gummies? You know, they sat there and I'm like, no, I can't have any more. And so I didn't have any more on the trip and I put them in the bin. Yeah, they traumatized you. I put them in the bin. No, I've been back on them since, don't get me wrong. I do have to give you a very big compliment, QZ, because after the jungle, top five, I think it was, top five, we all stayed at a lodge.

No, it was top eight, mate. I was eighth out. No, I honestly, cause you obviously top three, but I was, when we was leaving the jungle, cause I got evicted and I was shocked I got evicted, I thought, man, Matty thought I was gonna win. Well, he told me that. He thought I'd be there and then, not win.

I thought you were gonna win. Anyway, so whatever, I got evicted and I was annoyed, but I thought it was all rigged and that storyboarded and I would be in the final three, whatever. But that wasn't the case. And as I'm coming out, I'm like, well, at least my wife and family won't have to come over because as Maddie knows, it was a stress for busy people.

My wife had started her school year and a trip to Africa is not as valuable for some people as it is for others. Whatever, that's why I think. I only ended up in South Africa because Laura was like, hey, can you help me get to South Africa with these two kids? And I was like, yeah, no worries. And then my wife's like, you're not going to South Africa, mate,

for like two days. I'm like, oh. So yeah, with three kids, it's a stress to get over there. So when I'm coming out, at least my wife won't have to come over. And the producer and I are about that. And I said, what? She's there on the plane now. I said coming out, at least my wife won't have to come over and the producer about that. I said, what? She's there on the plane now. I said, oh shit.

So they hadn't landed in Perth, Melbourne, Perth, Joburg and I said, I've got to get her on the phone because she might want to turn around. Cause anyway, my daughters wanted to come but my son wanted to go back and play his red basketball. He didn't care about it. So I bring her back. Anyway, they came over.

That was eight. So for whatever reason, we had eight families. It was absolutely lovely in the little, where we were staying. In the lodge. It was a beautiful lodge. With your family and all the other families, it was great. You were there, Lyn, so you didn't get to enjoy it. Didn't get to enjoy it, but I do remember one standout

for me was the fact that everyone's there with their kids and your kids and teenagers are little assholes. Most of the time. Yeah. Like there's a little cafe down the road where I get a coffee from, and it's next to a school, and it's sometimes in the afternoons full of school kids. They tease him.

Yeah. And they suck. But your kids, like I don't know if they were just being on their absolute best behaviour, they would look you in the eye, say good morning, ask what are you up to today? They'd have a conversation. Yeah.

And you don't often get that from teenage kids, so I've got to say well done. Yeah, credit to my wife more than me, ask, you know, what are you up to today? They'd have a conversation. Yeah. And I don't, you don't often get that from teenage kids. So I've got to say, well done. Yeah. Credit to my wife more than me, obviously, but yeah, they are, yeah, they're good. And they'll play with little kids as well. So you're, yeah, they love playing with your daughters. And yeah, I've got two daughters who are bloody, yeah, they're good kids.

And my son's good as well, but yeah. I also have to just say as well, compliment for the kids, but at the airport you really stitched me up big time. I know. I haven't heard this. Well, I was trying to get a business upgrade. Oh yeah, yeah. Okay.

You do love a business. We all love a business upgrade. I just, I lost- It's his Achilles heel. I just lost eight kilos in the jungle. We nearly lost a friendship over it because when we went to Vegas and I was like, there's only one seat.

And I'm like, oh, don't worry. And he's like, sorry. You're painting me in a light way. He wanted to leave you for that 14 hours or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah. And so I was trying to get an upgrade. Couldn't happen.

We're at JoBurg Airport, Johannesburg for those playing at home. And I was on the phone to the flight agent and he was trying hard to get me an upgrade. It wasn't going to happen. And as I was on the phone to the flight agent and he was trying hard to get me an upgrade. It wasn't gonna happen. And as I was on the phone, like pleading desperate for an upgrade, Laura was talking to you.

And I didn't know the conversation was along the lines of, you had said to Laura, there is no way on earth I'm gonna sit in that business class seat for a second. It's gonna go to my wife. Yeah. Okay. And then after that conversation, I then hang up the phone. I go to Laura and I say, there's been no business class upgrade.

I'm really sorry. You're going to be in premium. Also didn't know that she was pregnant at the time. Yeah, right. And so when I walked her to her seat in premium, she was, it was, we had a big argument. Yeah. A big argument. Yeah.

No, I know. I know. It wasn't just you, it was the others as well. I guilted Zach into it as well. And I think Sam Thide as well. So yeah, so Zach too in Sam Thide, you know, both who are just going to go in business and leave their partners and kids in economy. But you know what, luckily, there was some luck, we were able to get pretty cheap business upgrades for everyone and they did as well. So all those guys paid for their partners to be in business. An investment worth making, honestly.

And I'm, and my wife's a Martin, she would have let me go in business. Honestly, she would have let me, but I knew I would have been in the back of it. There's points that you get deducted and they would have been deducted forever. I would have just sat in the business class seat and not spoken to them the whole time. Yeah, no, I can't. I'm playing a long game, man. Thank you for that. It was very contentious when he got back and telling that story. And then people piling on top of him. He's been attacked.

I still get attacked now. And when Laura announced that she was pregnant, then everyone's now come back for a second attack, being like, and she was pregnant. I mean, no. You know what? I appreciate you doing that. I appreciate you being honest in that way.

And you know what's great content. And people love to have their opinions. So we'll good on you for being honest enough to say that you're a selfish asshole. QZ, one final question that we always end on for the podcast episodes. When your three children are old enough to fly the nest, they're no longer living with you. What is the one thing you would want them to remember about the house they grew up in? That I'm big on don't take life seriously. I'm big on, don't take life seriously. I'm big on laugh your way through life.

So that's my, don't, and I say to them all the time, which I read, but I believe it to be true. There's been studies done and the people who think about themselves the least are the happiest people. So stop thinking about yourself and just, and I said this almost every day as I'm driving to school, look at the sun, as I said in the jungle as well, look at the sun, we're on a planet. This is weird.

The chances of us being here are so astronomical. Just, you know, be happy you're alive. You know, I really want them just to go through life with that attitude. So, yeah. Very good. I love it. Hugh Z, it's been an absolute pleasure. Lovely to see you again.

Mate, we've got to keep in touch, all right? So you went to the Grand Prix, you didn't ring me, man. Yeah. Why didn't you ring me? He was going to the Grand Prix, you know? It was right near my house. We'll wrap this up. I thought he was going to have a spare ticket.

Yeah, I was meant to catch up with him too down there. I was meant to catch up with him too down there, and he rings me the night before. Jess, press stock. And he goes, I'm going home. I was like, catch up with him too down there. I was meant to catch up with him too down there. And he rings me the night before. And he goes, I'm going home. I was like, what about me? I've come down. Lucky I had you people. But I was like really excited to see Matt.

I'll get her, I'll get her. And Laura and the girls. And then, yeah. Thanks, Husey. No worries. Husey, lovely to meet you. Thank you for coming in. It's been a pleasure.

It's been a lot of fun. It was a joy. Thank you. Thank you.