Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash - #166 Sibling Smackdown: Kate vs Matty J

Episode Date: August 24, 2025

Despite a crazy skiing injury, the (in)famous big sister Kate has finally made her way onto the show, and Matty J is shaking in his crocs! Kate is mum to 3 kids and often shares the aunty load with little bro Matty J - both live down the street from one another.  Ash does a fantastic job of digging up the dirt on Matty J and reveals something that not even the Daily Mail could uncover!  COME TO OUR LIVE SHOW SEP 4 IN SYDNEY!!!! https://tinyurl.com/22zht3ac  REGISTER HERE, TICKETS ARE FREE AND VERY LIMITED! If you need a shoulder to cry on:  Two Doting Dads Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/639833491568735/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheTwoDotingDads  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/twodotingdads/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@twodotingdads   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Matt, it is my lucky day. Well, I think we should probably cancel this episode. I don't know if it's the quality. No, no, we had problems with the audio. It was really crackly, do you remember? And also, I will say the video footage, lovely. Everyone looked very good, including your sister. Well, I spoke to the editor and all video footage has been deleted, which is weird.

It's been deleted straight to me. Someone's broken into the hard drives deleted at all. I don't know who it is, but we'll find them. We will stop them. It's a real shame. If I'm honest, you look panicked. Look, I would be panicked too because we're about to have a very special guest on the pod for this episode. I don't know why I agreed to this.

Which happens to be Matthew's sister, one and only sister, and some of the dirt is amazing. It was dirty. It was dirty. It was filthy. There is a photo that we talk about in this episode, right? A photo which I think needs to be buried. Somehow it's crept its way out of a box. It's found its way into the hands of my sister.

We talk about it on this episode. She then left the photo here. Before I had a chance to delete, like destroy that photo, we had another tradie come over in the morning. And Marley runs up to that trady with a photo in hand. And he goes, look, it's my daddy. He was like, I don't know if I should be looking at this. That's very, very good.

Tell us a bit about your sister, man. Well, she is 40? I don't know. She looks great. You relax. You relax. You just sit down salivating over there. I am not.

I know, she looks great. She does. She looks. I don't want to say it. She's got three kids, George. I think he's nine. Could be ten. Not quite sure.

She's got Millie? Okay. Great one. And Charlotte goes to Dakeet with Lerla. Shaz and Magas. Shaz and Magas. She'll be married. Happily married.

Happily married to Bill. Big bad. Bill? Big bad, Bill the Builder. There you have it. Matt's so nervous, so let's just get into it. Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mum. I'm Maddie J. I'm Ash.

And I'm Kate. Very good. Got the name right. It's weird looking at you being nervous. I know, I'm so nervous. I never pictured you as a nervous person. I hate all this stuff. What do you mean?

Why did you say yes? Because you begged me. I did not. Did you know? How did they do it? I also have a little bit of spare time at the moment, so I was like, yeah, sure. Hang on, I haven't finished my intro. Oh, yes.

This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good. It is the bad. And the relatable. And if you come for advice, well, not today. Well, maybe. Kate's very good. She's very good. We don't give advice. We're not allowed to, but you're allowed to. You go hard. I thought legally ago. Also, it was not.

No, loopholes. Yeah, it's a good question because you are related to me. We need to chat to legal about that. Look, I'll get some advice and then you can just cut it out. Well, yeah, we'll edit it all out. Just say, this is not advice at the start of it. Yeah. I thought it covers you. I couldn't help but notice. When you were greeting my sister, you gave her a big hug. I did. I enjoyed it.

It was a strong hug. and I was worried. What did you think of the hug? I love... Whoa. It's been a while. Okay. Okay.

Well, you're injured right now. I loved a hug, but it's a little bit tender. You're injured. Tell me why, why. I wasn't expecting you to be injured. Yes. I'm not usually injured, but I'm, yeah, very injured at the moment. Okay, so just on the record...

I've told everyone the story, by the way. Right? Not me. I've been holding onto the story because Kate can tell you and the listeners. But at school, I've told, like, when I've got nothing to talk about, and I'm like, how's the weather? And I'm like, my sister's done this.

People like me. Just an injury small talk. Injuries, there is, okay, weather and injury small talk. Yeah, that's a new idea. Especially at like over 30 years of old age, you can start talking about your injuries. Yeah. You had a beautiful weekend at the snow.

Okay, so I just wanted to start with saying, like, on the record, skiing is not my ideal holiday. Didn't want to go. Harvey wanted to go. Kids have skied with him actually solo for the past couple of years. But Charlotte's been a bit little, our five-year-old. So he was like, let's all go on a skiing holiday. Fiji, that's a holiday.

Oh, yeah. How are you talking? We'll go to Fiji. Yeah, we'll go to Fiji. Not skiing. Okay. So we got there on the Monday afternoon. We actually had a pretty good.

Great conditions as well. Amazing. ski season, like, yes, amazing. On record, the best. I trust you and believe you because I don't know anything about the snow. So the whole reason why we chose the week that we went as well was because I had a really good school mom who was having her 40th birthday. She, her big skiing families. So she wanted to have her 40th birthday down at the snow. Beautiful. Must be nice. Yeah. There was a few families going down. We, she booked a really nice restaurant, which is up actually on the mountains. You've got to get a chairlift and ski tour.

It's like halfway down in the mountain. So you've got to, if you have to be able to ski or go snowboard, if you want to come. You can't go. You can't go. Can't go. This whole snow world. It's how they filter out the poor people. Yeah.

I'm too poor. So you have this beautiful restaurant booked. I haven't skied in over 10 years. I was just getting my footing back. I was very much like green runs, just green runs. Slow and steady. Very slow and steady. I don't want to stop this every time.

What's a green run? Like an easy run Easy run Okay, cool The easiest Just give me the colours Yeah yeah Green good

Blue Blue Black is that most Black diamond Is that where that comes from? Black diamond is yeah Black and then black diamond Is that black diamond is like the most experienced

I think there's a brown Is that brown runs? Is it brown in the middle? Yeah Yeah Is it blue run I was out of brown run this morning It's green and then blue

Because by the second day My husband has cried a good skier He I was like So Another green run And he was like can we do it black? Oh, God.

Yeah, he's a bit bored with me. But Tuesday, unfortunately, the winds were too high. The kids could still ski on their little, it's called Friday Flats. Well, for people who don't know, your kids are... Nine, seven, and five. I love how it's too windy for the adults. Send the kids out. Literally.

Sacrifice the children. That's what the snow people do. I'm really not liking this. There's like one little chairlip that still operated halfway up. For the kids. Yeah, which was great because we were like, ski school, off you go, see you, but then we couldn't ski. Yeah.

And then Wednesday, there was a dumped a whole heap of snow. It was freezing cold. Dumped means a lot, ash. I know what dumped means, big guys. And then Thursday, it was the most amazing day. It was by far the best day to ski. It was blue skies. we dropped the kids to ski school.

They were all, even the five-year-old was really picking it up now. So they were loving it. On our first run up the mountain, got a chairlift, and then we skied over, and then we were getting a tea bar up to quite a high point. Now, T-bar is, if you imagine, like an upside-down tea. You hold onto it, don't you? No, you actually sit on it.

So you sit onto the bottom of the tea bin. But you can't put all your way down. Yeah, you've got like a retractable. chords. It seems ridiculous. It pulls you up. So you're kind of still standing, but it drags you up. And so we were going up, jumped on a T-bar, and we were trying to figure out, like, which, because a couple of chairlifts still weren't open, which chairlifts were open, and where we would go and where we could get a coffee and where we might go for lunch.

And all of a sudden... Because so many options. There's so many options. You ski people have so many options. Yes. So look up and because my husband is heavier than me and he was on the right, we were like veering off course, so the T-bar can still pull you, but we were like really going off. How far does it retract? 20 metres?

What? No, 10 metres. That's got to be, they've got to fix that. So as Bill was, Bill, your husband was starting to veer off course, did he not correct himself? No, well, he, I was thinking like, because he was kind of controlling where we were going, what we're doing. And I just thought, oh, he's got this. He'll, like, lean back over and we'll kind of go back on course. But he was really, like, looking around and not paying any attention to where we're going.

So the last second, I was like, Bill, Bill, there's a poll. And so we were coming straight. And, like, you're not going that fast. You're quite slow. It's like the scene from Austin Powers with the roller is just going. And then it's miles away. It's like, move. So you can't make me a laugh because even laughing hurts me.

Oh, wow. Okay. So before we knew it, we like, the pole was so close. So I actually came off the T-bar not to hit the pole. You ditched the T-Barr. I ditched the T-Barr. He hit the pole and took the T-Bar with him. Now, it all happened very quickly, so I don't even understand.

And every doctor I've explained it to, they're like, How did it hit you? And I'm like, I don't know. But basically he hit the pole. The cable kept going and like hyper extended. And then it slingshot back around and I was in the way of it. And the end of the T-bar just absolutely whacked me in the really soft part of your back. I always hit you in like the worst spot.

Yes. Did you know what was happening? Because you've ditched the T-bar. Did you think I'm safe? No, and also I thought that I'd come off like in the middle of the track so then everyone else on the T-bar is going to hit me because that's like and it's dominoes. I've seen the videos online of that happening. Yes.

Yeah, chairlists and so I don't even actually remember it, but I ended up on the other side of the track but I am in absolute agony on my stomach like this and I've also been quite badly winded. So I was on the ground going, and Bill skied over. He was fine. I was like, Bill just skied right over me. He came over and he didn't realize how badly it had hit me.

Did he see you get hit? No. So he was kind of like, yeah. The pole was in his face. He definitely saw him. Yeah, he was like, I didn't see anything. It was hilarious. No.

Did it knock you out? I didn't knock you out. No. Oh, thank goodness. So I just thought I'd been really badly corked in that part of my back. So luckily, there were actually two medics on the T-bar, a couple of T-bars behind me. So they came off. Were they in their lunch break?

Were they working? We're off the clock. And Bill was like, just roll over, baby. You'll be right. And every time I moved an inch, even just breathing, was this excruciating pain in my back. And I was like, I don't think I can roll over. I can't move. Can't walk this one off.

They obviously checked all my spine and stuff. Like I could feel my legs. Like it wasn't my spine. It was that like corked feeling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the medics were like, let's get the toboggan. Let's get you. Like, you can't move.

You're in a lot of pain. Let's pay for that? I haven't got a bill yet. Tobogans. Is that like the snow version? of an ambulance? Just, here's a toboggan. So the deboggin, they like

cocoon you up. There's a medic on one end like holding it. There's a medic on the other and it's like a toboggan. And you are like strapped in looking at the sky. Yes.

That sounds fun. So if you're claustrophobic, I had to just like, make the self-talk in my head. And you are going over bumps. And so I was like, ow, ow. You have no control. Because Bill was like, no.

And even I was like, no, I don't need that. That's a lot of fuss. let me just I'll just try to like get up and I was like couldn't get up couldn't move no so they were like no can't don't we're going to get you the toboggan thing what a scene I know on the edge of a mountain I know it was so embarrassing I know yeah I'm like I'm thinking I'm like I'll be right behind you because I actually did so I was like you can't do anything

keep skiing like it's the best day don't draw attention to us he would have been thinking shit do it yeah this is the test it's like that guy you know high rocks who left his missus. He passed out. He was like, we're over. So Bill said, I will come with you. Yeah, so it had to be tobogging down and then got transported to the medic center at Threadbow. So a doc got assessed by a doctor. And with the level of pain, he was like, take some panadine fort. What I'm kind of worried about, that's where your kidneys are. If you had a really big blow, I just want to like check your kidneys. So when you can, I want to

you to do a wee, which was the most excruciating. Like, well, I reckon worse than childbirth. The pain. Because it's obviously hit your kidney. Is that what happening here? Wow. It's hit something. Like, just getting off the medical bed, trying to shuffle to the toilet,

bending over to sit on the toilet. Oh. Because I had to we in a cup. And then... And Bill's there watching the clock being like, is like, it's... Can I hit the slopes down? Yeah. Blood in my urine.

Or like that quickly? Is that how quickly it happens? Yeah, it was probably to be like the whole ordeal because I had to get more medics. Like I was six medics now with me up at the mountain. So it was about an hour after I got hit. So then the doctor, and Bill is literally there being like, I'm hungry.

I'm but can I, I mean, can we, she's fine. Like, let's go. Men are great. I was going to say it. So the doctor was like, yeah, she's, she has to go to where she needs an ambulance. We've got to send her to Cooma Hospital. Holy shit.

She's got some internal bleeding. Yeah, I get a message in the family. What's that? Kate going, I've got some internal bleeding. I've been hit by the Tiber. But I'm fine. Oh, yeah, yeah. Good.

Wow. So you went to hospital. So I went to hospital, got an ultrasound. You're pregnant. That would be worse than the TV. And they're like, look, it's pretty much. minor you just had a like really traumatic blow so we're going to oh they gave me morphine love that right yeah do you bring some home no and and they gave me endone so I was on endone

and morphine so good combo it was great ash is celebrating right now sounds like a really good it was so good in the hospital I was like they wanted to like yeah leave me here they wanted to wheel me to the ultrasound room and I was like no guys I Like, oh, I just walk. Oh, ski there. Yeah, it's fine. I just sound all good. The doctor came back because he also was like, how did it happen?

And not a mark on my back. There's no bruising. There's no swelling. There's not anything. It's just excruciating pain. So then he was the doctor and came back. He was a bit like, what did he be done? Like, is it really that bad?

Okay, so you're like just rest for your kidneys. We could do an x-ray if you want. And I was like, that's four o'clock. Like, I'm, I've got to get back to the mountain. I've got to lunch tomorrow. I've got to finish the run down the hill. Yeah. So just like, I'll, I'll be fine.

Thanks very much. Just, like, checked myself out, got discharged, went back up to the mountain. And then, like, later that night, everything had worn off. So I was like, holy, I couldn't, like, getting in and out of the car, getting into the car, getting into bed, trying to get undressed. I couldn't do anything without excruciating pain. But Bill, my husband's like, because I, at that point, I was like, I don't think I can ski to lunch.

Be honest, did he try and have sex with that? Did he try to have sex with you that night? He's like, no. That actually, he was actually amazing. There was no pressure to have sex. For a while. The bar is low. Oh, really?

Yeah. And then he was like, so. So are you ready for that? This story took a very different turn. That's because Matt's here. I know, I know. And I'm the crude one, apparently. Well, we like out of like a family funeral

and Matt's, like, trying to crack out. Do not try, I'm like, jerk off at a fucking woman. Doesn't Matt or Tom, one or the other brother. Shout out to Tom. Or both married Tom. So the next morning, Bill was like, nah, you, I'll ski. with you, we'll go really slow, you're fine.

Also, putting on ski boots, like trying to walk with ski boots on when it's... They're unforgiving. They are like, torturous. Got to lunch. You made it? Well done. Up on the mountain. I did have to go back to the medical center and asked for a prescription for...

For morphine. Yeah, it was some pain killer. I didn't need some paddened for because it was really bad. Every time I moved, I'd be like, ugh, oh, oh. Do you have a couple of wines? Yeah, I had to. Oh, yeah, thank God. It was my girlfriend's 40th birthday.

I was worried, though, skiing, panading for it, a few ones. Let's just ski back down. I had to ski back down. So I was a bit worried about that. I heard you were best on ground. I had to walk through the entire restaurant to go to the bathroom one stage.

And every time I walked, I was like, oh, oh. And my girlfriend was like, don't worry, everyone, she's turrets. She's fine. So I was like, thanks. But I made it to lunch. Yeah. Then we drove home to Canary.

So three-hour drive in the car, that was pretty horrific. Oh, yeah. Also half-tanked. So I was like, it was a great time. Overnighted in Canberra, it came back. So Saturday, Sunday, I couldn't move the pain. I couldn't sleep, the pain. Monday morning, we thought, we had to get an X-ray.

This is pretty bad. Yeah. Got an X-ray. What have you done? Turns out, I broke my back. You've broken your back? I broke my back. Oh, my God.

And the way you hugged her. I'm so sorry. Anna cracked a rib. Holy shit. Yeah. What? You must have really wanted to go to that lunch. Wow.

That is wild. To any friend who's ditched on a birthday lunch. I know. Broken bags. They're clawing away up the band. I'll get there. Morphine's going to get me there. Oh, my God.

Order be a margarita. I'm going. Wow. Well done. And so sorry that you hurt you back. And sorry that I didn't even. I was like, come in. Bro down.

Wow. I was watching it going be gentle. Yeah, it was excruciating. So at what extent is the break? Okay, so if you've got to break you back. Do it properly. It is the one to do. Oh, good.

I didn't break anything in my spine, but off to the side of your spine, you have bones, which are called transverse processes. I've actually snapped my L1 and L2, so both of them. One of them is like snapped cleanly off. So just floating there right now in your back. It's like floating. What do you do with that? Does it spawn off and create another human?

No, it should like spawn off and like, it will try to reattach itself. But apparently if it doesn't, it will just fuse to like muscle. Oh, wow. The human body's fucking weird. It's weird. It's weird. Yeah. A lot of heaps and muscles attached to it.

Yeah. Nerves and ligaments. Yeah. So it's, I can't, I can't bend. I can't twist. And there's nothing you can really do. It's like ribs, right? No, totally.

You've got to try not to laugh. Sorry. Try not to sneeze. trying to cough, all that sort of stuff. Yeah, don't pick up any kids, don't do any washing. She stole Nana from us. Nana was like, I've got to go. Oh, for God's sake.

I did. I did feel bad. But I also was like, you've got it so good. I house her. She came for three days, four days. She cooked and cleaned. She, like, washed all of our ski gear. You ate Ellie's cooking?

Because I've heard that she's done some pretty bad. You're so mean to her about that. Oh, my God. This is where I get it from. So I'm going to try and pick about it. up. Yes, she does. You're confident that you know.

Would you cook you? She cooked. Spaghetti. Hmm. The lasagna frozen. Oh, our lambagu is good. That's a good one. That's a good one.

Yeah. She does a regoo? Relax. So cook. She does a bag bowl. She did something else. Yeah. I was like, Kate will do anything to get mom.

On a scale of 1 to 10 where we're at now. Okay. So we're actually pretty good. Only like when you touch it and stuff, it's sore. I'm not. I know, like I was constantly uncomfortable, but I can walk around a bit more. I can get around. I can get it in another car.

Sleeping's still not great. Yeah. It's crazy. Every broken back story I hear, they like find out later. Oh. You know what I mean? Like, I've met this guy at the wave pool who was like, it's my first surf back after breaking my back.

I'm like, oh, okay, what happened? He goes, I fell down the stairs. And my wife was like, just get in the bed, get over it. You'll be fine. Two days later, you had broken back. This is a good lesson for people listening. Also, if I went for the, if I agreed to the X-ray in the hospital, like obviously wouldn't have gone to lunch the next day.

That's a lie. So it's a place. Yeah, I would have gone harder. Well, I'm glad you're okay. Speaking of Ellie, yes, actually, did you know this is when George, your first son, was born? I was living in London, Ash, did you know I was living in London? No, there's news to me. I lived there for four years.

Shocked. Do you know at the time what Nana had done with the photo of you? What, sorry? What? What photo? You know this. So. I feel like I'm going to be part of a sibling stout.

So I was in London working at the time. I was in the office. Yes. As you were giving birth. Yes. And I kind of said to people. Oh, sorry, this photo, the birth's photo. I said to people, I was like, guys, you know, my sister is giving birth as we speak.

This is amazing. And, you know, I was checking my phone and writing in. Oh, my sister's giving birth. Like that? Is that how he did it? No. Oh. And I was, you know, watching my phone for the message to say he's arrived.

And then finally in the afternoon there's a message and he's born. Oh, George. There was a photo. Yes. I opened my phone. It was very, like very early. And she was very excited, Nana. Took a photo of Kate holding George.

No, Bill had forwarded that photo. Bill took the photo. Well, the nurse. Explain. Finish, what the photo was. The vaginas in full display. Yes, so the nurse was so lovely and took some photos, literally as, like, he had come out. And Bill and I was showing people in the office.

The cord was still attached and, like, kind of. The cord was still from the baby. Into you. Yes. Oh, my God. And so Bill thought he was, he didn't realize if you just had a quick look, you could look at the baby. It's in the bottom right hand corner. He forwarded it to my mom being like, it's a boy, he's born.

So then mum forwarded him. to take the family chat. I uploaded it. And like my vagina's in the photo. No, no. I was looking like, oh my God, he's beautiful. Oh my God. That's my sister's vagina.

Oh my goodness. It just pushed out of baby. It did not look good. Oh, my goodness. Oh, how embarrassing. But like also like, come on guys. Like check the photo. I get everyone's excited.

Yeah, no, yeah. Oh, my goodness. And you would have been like a. not knowing if that, like, that's a normal photo to get? Is that your first, like... Did you see inside a way? Did you see it? Did you see it? Did you, were you like...

Yeah, at a glance. Have you seen your sister's vagina? I think someone said... Nice minge. I wrote to mum and be like, I think that you shouldn't... How many people do you set that photo too? Yeah, crop it.

Crop it! Oh my. Very good. Now, you are one of five, as is Matt, one of five. Big family. I've only got one sister. But you seem very close. Yeah, we are.

We're quite good friends. I've met the other siblings, not as close, I would say. So, very close. How dare you? What? It's just an observation. It's just because we both live in the same suburb. My brothers are crying right now.

Sobbing. Not my problem, honestly, but maybe if I, maybe if they've ruined the future criticism. Sorry, guys. But I've noticed you are, you do talk a lot, you chat a lot. you're on the phone to each other a lot. I've noticed. And it's not a very... He's been watching you for a while, okay.

In the bushes. Yeah, in the window. There's weird noises in the backyard. I knew she had a broken back before we got the egg ray. I can tell, like, she's been hunchy on the slopes. She's a bit hunchy at the moment. But yeah, you would just say, yeah, you would just say you are close, right? Yeah, we are very close.

Okay. Except, have you fought? My fight with my sister all the time. Yeah, well, no, sorry. Well, we are very close now. But, like, growing up, we, we, it was like, it was on. And that's very simple.

I don't think it was. I don't think we ever fought up. Yeah, we fought all the time. And I was the only, I have my four brothers, the only girl. So like, I really had to stick up for myself. I don't recall that at all. I also was probably a bit annoying. There was one time where I was annoying you, I'll be honest.

What were you doing? We were like, I was 10 and you were nine or something. And I was just like, like, na-da-na-na-da-da-da-da-da- like in your face all the time. And you were a lot bigger than me. as well. What's that supposed to be? No, why, I knew

because, you know, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You were just. Just a big, yeah, you're older. I was a scrawny little kid. I was, I was a Premier, but guys. Bremi. Yeah, we don't fight.

You're fighting right now. Okay, go. Yeah, I was, I mean, I'm 18 months older. But I just kept going out you. And I remember you being like, stop it, please stop it. Leave me alone. See how annoying she is? I was so annoying.

And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Matt just punched me right in the nose. It just clocked me one. Did I? My nose was just spitting out blood. I was like, how dare you? And so I was like, Mom! And I was like, well, let's just relax. Yeah, there's all those memes.

It's like when you accidentally hurt your sibling, you've just gone and walloped her in the face. Oh. So ran to Mom. Can I just say it was a good punch. Yeah. Oh, it was like straight in the night. Like straight in the middle. I thought you were going to say, I'll do it again.

I was like, oh, Jesus. How old were you, nine? Nine. You're okay then. Yeah. You're fine. So, heck, well, what happened? Mom comes running down the hallway, grabs him.

And imagine that sister, just blood pouring out the nose. Only daughter. Yeah. And I was like, he touched me. I was like, Mom, remember, I'm a preemie baby. Very good. So you got thrown in your room and mom was like. I think she took to me with a wooden spoon.

I think she did as well. My sister's older as well. Her defence mechanism was, because I was the annoying one, which go figure, and she used to just sit on me. She was bigger than me. Oh, that's, yeah, that works. Yeah, and a mum was like, yeah, I just taught her to sit on you because that had shut you right. And she just wouldn't get off me.

And then as we got older, yeah, we're obviously sibling stuff and you hurt each other. That's just how it is, right? And then same thing. As we got older, we got much more, much closer and stuff like that. So thankfully now we don't punch each other. Yeah. And now Ash is really into being sat on. it's a king of mine

it's a king of mine it's a really good sitter so I married her yeah sat through two pregnancies yeah very good and also what comes along with siblings is embarrassing

an embarrassment my sister and I used to embarrass each other all the time any embarrassment that you can share with the listeners about Matt would be great you struck yourself in big guy I did go through the old shoebox of photos. Oh, yeah.

I love business. Yes, brought it a good one. I, Matthew, am a visual learner. Okay. There was, there is one photo and I thought I destroyed it. Okay. There's many copies, many copies. I am not having any sisters, like, yearn for a sister most of my childhood.

I desperately wanted a sister and said it's the only way to get one. is to dress up my press into my sisters. I'm very excited about this. And because I punched her in the nose, I became a willing participant because I felt bad. Yes. Why did you dress me up? I don't really know.

I feel like you came to me. Oh, yeah. I was like, hey, it's where I'm bored. The plot thicket. What clothes could I wear? Also, he was like, he was always the funny one. So he would have, like, wanted attention. I don't remember how, yeah, used to.

You had a wig. Put me in the wig. Should I, should we? You got the photo here. Yeah. Do you? Yeah, brought it. Let's go.

Drum roll. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm pretty sure we would also like to do like pop dance and like do. Oh, cute. Hang on a second. Have you got any pop dance videos? No, that was before. That was like before the time.

Oh, my grandma would have one somewhere like a, yeah. There's the photo that I'm thinking. Let's not. We don't have to bring it out. Okay. Oh my God. You've got breasts. Also, he's loving it.

You can just, you can see. You are loving it. I was forced into it against my will. You are. Look at the pose. The head. The wrist.

Oh, my goodness. The sparkly hair. I look good. Oh my God. What am I doing? And so for like one evening, I'd get a sister. Yeah, you did.

I was called Matricia. Is that lipstick? Is it? Look how red your lips are. Probably, probably. Any foundation? Any rouge? We probably rated mum's makeup.

Wow. Very good. Have you got a sports bra on under that? Do I? The only thing I would say is like he wasn't the only brother. I dressed most. He dressed them all? Yeah, I did dress most of them.

Yeah. You wanted to be like the spice girls. David did ask most of the time to be dressed up. Wow. He did. Suspect. You look. great. You do look good. Thank you. Yeah. You look like, you look like someone who always tries to get

out of PE. You know, like, the only thing he was good at. You know, like, just like, all the beer boxes in the back to beepers. What? Good boobs. Good, great set of cans. Can I keep this? God knows what you'll do with it. Have you, Matt's dress up as a woman plenty of times in recent times. It's been a while. I'm due for one. You are. I reckon you need to recreate this. Yeah. That's a Great, great wig. Thank you so much. We have a few questions. I asked the good people on Facebook.

And great response. People do want to hear from you, Kate. I know you're very nervous. You're thinking people don't want to hear from you, but they do. When you're the sister of a big deal like me. Here he is. Yeah, if you have a sister of a big child cross-dresser, they want to hear. They want to hear.

What do we got to ask? This one's from Maggie. Has Matt always been your mum's favorite child? He stole it from me. Oh, did he? stole it from me. I see that. Yeah.

They'd still some pain there. Yeah. Since he's now, I'm like, he's like a D's less celebrity. Oh, that hurts. Definitely the favorite. No, yeah, yeah. Nah, I would say you're more than D. Thank you.

You're a B. Yeah, you were a favorite for a while. Yes. My whole life, I was, it's, it's been hard fall, I'll be honest. You turned into a rap bag as a teenager, though, didn't you? Oh, yeah, that's true. That was two years that I'm not proud of. Okay.

Yeah, you were bad. And I was like, Mom, she's off the wrong. rails. Yeah, you were like, me on the other hand, just really doubling down, plating my wig. Yeah, but then you got, like, give me some attention. Then you got kicked out of ironbark, school camp, suspended. Oh, that's right. That story.

What happened to him? Yeah. So you're not the angel child. I stole a few things. I stole noodles from the tuck shop, got suspended. This is from Cynthia. And she says, what's your favorite childhood memory with Matt? Oh, that's nice.

Yeah. That's a nice one. So we lived on the outskirts of Brisbane. in the western suburbs, and we backed, we had like a four-acre property, and we backed onto a creek. And so, like, most of our childhood was going down to the creek

and finding tadpoles and turtles. Yeah, we would explore the creek. Yeah, we were just for hours and hours. We'd leave in the morning and then... Was it swimmable to this creek? Oh, yeah. And it's hot in Brisbane, man. Like the muggy.

Yeah. And then every time a flood would come, every few years a flood would come and once it receded, everything had, like the whole creek changed. Oh, wow. It would transform that. Yeah, it would.

This sounds like a movie. So we would collect tadpoles and like set up little homes for them. Do you remember though? Sorry, cut you off. Here you guys, sorry. Well, then they would turn into cantoads. Oh, Kato.

So then we'd kill them. Yeah, no. It's weird. False sense of security. Like, we're nurture you up to a stage where it's okay to kill you. Yeah. Do you remember, because we used to ride our bikes everywhere, we would just go exploring.

Yes. And we found that house. I know. That was, I told my kids that story as well. That was the weirdest house. Wait, you found a house in the suburb? So we, like, out into the mountains. Out into the mountains.

It was, like, you know. We were, okay, so we were the kids that literally we would, like, get a backpack, some sandwiches. And go. And school holidays, we would just ride our bikes. How do I get kids like that? It might have just like clanging on to me. Like, then we found this house. Yeah, it was an abandoned house, like a couple of caves from our house.

And we pulled our bikes up there. We'd explore this house and then we'd kind of hang. Because, like, there was furniture in there and there was, like, food on the, um... On the bench, like, half-eaten rice bubbles and stuff. So, like, but then no one would be in there. Were the rice bubble still edible or? I don't know. I don't know.

Weird. So I tell my, the story I tell my kids is we were exploring this house and they were scratching coming from the roof. Oh my goodness. And we didn't know what it was. And all of a sudden, it was a bump and we screamed and we ran out and we thought there was a ghost up there. Oh, my God. And kids are like, and now they haven't slept. But didn't you like, we kind of made a bit of a mess in the house?

Oh, yeah, we did. That's about. And then. You trashed the place. No, we didn't. A bunch of rat back. And then how did it? people find out that it was us who made the mess in there?

Because you got, you went back and you were made to clean the house. What? I don't remember that. You don't remember that? That makes sense, to be honest. You went back and they made you, I got out of me. Why? I was away somewhere, I don't know.

Favorite child. That's true. All right. Next question from Laurel. Beautiful name. Love that. It's kind of like floral, but without the F. What's said?

What's your, sorry, what's your biggest pet peeve about Maddie? Oh, he's always late. oh my god thank you so much he's always late oh my god what a relief I thought it was just with me whoa validated over there

I feel I've never been so validated I've gotten better you have gotten better but late to everything what is with that yeah late to everything yeah you got to tell him like half an hour before he always looks great too

sorry sorry he turns out looking great half hour late it's like maybe don't look as good and you'll get there on time I apologise. That is a... I'm very used to it, so like it's fine now. I'm getting used to it. Wasn't late this morning.

Actually, I have noted because I, my whole life, I've been irritatingly punctual. But since meeting you, I've relaxed on that. You're welcome. I pick up Lolo, Molly, most, like, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesdays for school. I have to say, you're never late getting them ready. That's good parenting. Yeah, ready by 8 o'clock out of the dog. And that's what's important.

Like, he's, like, dishevelled, he's got no shirt, he's got, like, He just wants to get his abs out. I'm like, you're right? She's like, I'm fine and has me kids. And I'm like, okay, see ya. I take that from mom. God. We say to mom, you're always late, mom.

I remember being the last kids picked up at school. She's always so frazzled your mom. And if you tell her she's late, she's a late person. She, wow. I love it. And Ellie's story, this was the moment that I was like, oh, she can no longer like do. family, she can't host family Christmases.

Okay. So she stocked the fridges, everything was ready to go. Christmas Day, we're on Straboke Island. So Christmas Day, nothing is open. So you've got to, like, stock up. She's very organised. All of us was there. Partners were there.

The house was full of people. She's gone to, because the fridges were so full, she'd turn them down. Oh, God. And she went to make the salad for the lunch and, like, the cucumber had frozen and the lettuce had frozen and she like, yes. And she like broke down and was like, we can't have a green salad. I was like, it's a cucumber. Relax. I was like, mom, it's, it's cool. We'll be right. And like, it ruined her whole day. Oh, I bet it did. The frozen cucumber has ruined her whole day. Whenever she sees a, whenever she sees a kicker now, she's like, I'm traumatized. I was lucky enough

to go on a cruise with your mom. Oh, yes. It was so much. Because she's, I love that when the goalposts moved for Ellie, she's like, oh, all of a sudden, she's startled for it. And I'm like, this is amazing and like, oh, yeah. Did you get like the pointless story? Whoa. No, do you know, her and my dad. And that's why you're not the favorite.

Yeah. Her and my dad are pointless story king. Yes. So they were like, it was like, get a rude, you two. She'll tell me why like the G note on a piano for a. originated from or something. And I'm like, I don't care. I think our stories are great.

Okay, you would say that, the favourite child. But it was funny because my mum was also on the cruise too. Mum was like, that's great. He's got someone to talk to me. And I was like, yeah, it is actually. He's actually quite pleasant on this trip. This is from Hannah. She wants to know, what was your first reaction when I appeared on The Bachelor?

You actually got a bad edit on The Bachelor. I know, but I knew that. I knew that was going to come. I never saw it. I liked it. There you go. They turned her into the villain. The general.

The general. No, the dictator. The dictator. Really? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm assuming she means, because obviously I found out you were going to go on it before it. Like, it happened. Yeah.

And you did The Bachelorette first. I don't know. What did I think? Are you embarrassed that I've been on reality TV many times? No, because you're very good at it and you won. Yeah. True. Great.

There you go. Yeah. It is awkward with the camera. crew and you've got to like act in a sense. Yeah, do they make you, do they, like, when they, when you are on a camera, do they like heavily produce you too? Um, not that you remember you came to the house and I was staying at and we. I did a date with you.

We did a group date. No, that was actually not. Ancest episode. It's my favorite season of the Bachelor. That was fine, but I couldn't be there for the finale of the Bachelor. because I was pregnant, and it was filmed in Thailand. And there was Zika virus, so it was advised that I don't go to Thailand. So it was awkward because they were like, who else could do the grilling for the final two?

Because if you were the dictator. And my brothers were like, fuck that. Adam, oldest is like, not for me. David, second youngest, absolutely not. Tom, who's the youngest, was like, I guess I'll do it. He would have been like 21. And he was like, I remember the one question he asked Laura. They were like, right, Tom, you've got to ask some hard-hitting questions here.

Like, really put her on the spot. Yeah, this could be the girl that Matt spends the rest of his life with. And Tom was like, so do you have any hobbies? Hard-hitting journalism, that one. And Laura kind of was like, oh, stumbled a bit on the question. And Tom was like, I don't know about her. I really want to see that footage. That's so good.

All right. What's your go-to thing to do with your kids in the school holidays? This is lovely to end up. Well, this is quite convenient these days because we bought a rural property down the South Coast. Say that. Must be nice. There you go. 12 months ago.

And Matt and Laura are looking for another property. Another. A north. And then I was like, why do you look at Northwall? Sounds beautiful. North been done. So they bought Aladala, the holiday house and Aladala. I've never heard of her.

Oh, shut the fuck up. Sorry, ignore it. We, every school holidays. Yeah, we go down to our holiday houses. I know. I'm yet to get the call up. And the girls do Boney Club together. Ferd, yeah.

So that is our net. They don't know how bloody good they've got at these kids. Yeah, for sure. Like, they get to go away. Like, South Coast beautiful, lovely. Just a bit cold. Have you got animals on you all? Yeah, we have like a proper working farm.

Shut up, do you. We have a hundred. Beef cows or? Beef cows? Love to come down, Ash. Yeah. Is that a formal involved? Not yet.

We'll think about it. Yeah. Christmas. Christmas? Maybe. Oh, that's big leagues. So I'm just, stop.

I don't know why this awkward. So yeah, that's pretty cool. We get to spend a lot of time together. That's awesome. And it's also good like you, I know you've got like a lot of siblings and you're the only one with kid but it's like it's good that they've got like you know cousins and shit like that actually that is the coolest part yeah we grew up not really spending a lot of time with our cousins and to give our kids the relationship with an extended family that we didn't get is really

really cool and it's very like you know maz got two girls i've got two girls similar age to that's like like just works perfectly yeah george my nine-year-old he's always like i can't play barbies anymore fair enough but it is i don't know if there's other people out there who don't have family close by, it makes a world of difference. On the weekend, for example, I mean, you have Lola every Friday,

which thank you very much. It was like 7.30 a.m. and Charlotte didn't want to come to Georgia's footy game. So I was like, hey, you're going to have another five-year-old I'm going to drop her here. Yeah, it does make it. They say it takes a village, right?

There is. It's like my, like, for me, I had a lot of cousins. And like, my, my mom's side, they'll breeders. Anyway. My kids only have one cousin. It's really sad.

Yeah. Oh, wow. Well, my brother-in-law and his partner, gay, obviously, they don't want to adopt. They have two dual income and they must live in the dream. But my sister has Winnie, my niece, who's a month younger than Macy. Oh, that's cool. They've gone, this is it for us. Oh.

Will be your family. You know, you're too far away. Yeah, sorry about that. Matt and I live like 900 metres from each other. I know, I'm like, miles away. My sister lives on this side too, so it's like, oh, yeah, anyway. But yes, I think, like, having a bunch of cousins, it was always really fun. So it's good that you've got, yeah.

Yeah, you've got that going on. Thank you. That's right. I'm very sentimental sometimes. And thank you, Kate, for jumping on the podcast. I know you were nervous, but you were great guests. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me.

You'll have to come back sometime. Yes. And if you've enjoyed this episode, please, Kate, can you just ask him to say, review the podcast? Don't ask demand, like the detail, please. Say, say, like, you're talking to you're talking to you. your children, say, review the podcast. Review the podcast. Perfect.

Nailed it. All the hell of a sudden, now, reviews go up. Subscribe and Ash, where can they find us on social media? Can I say, review the podcast, or you will not get a treat tonight. Perfect.

Done. Clip that up, put it on socials. Instagram. Also, you yell a lot louder than that when you're talking to the kids. Yeah, I do. There's no gentle parenting in my house. I'm a yellow as well.

It works. Kind of in a little bit. Anyway. 290s on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and now YouTube. And we'll see you guys next week. Bye. Bye. Now, Matt, there's a special callout we need to do right now.

Yes, I'm about to do it. I'm calling out to all of you Dota's right now who are listening. If you've ever dreamed of sitting down and listening to myself and Ash, talk about our lives and the disasters that we get up to as parents, You're in luck because you can do that in the flesh. Absolutely. We are doing a one and only live show at the Apple store in Sydney, CBD, on George Street, which is when? On the 4th of September, I believe, this is.

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