Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash - #175 Scotty James on Redefining Success as a Dad and Pro Athlete

Episode Date: October 5, 2025

Becoming a parent has a way of reshaping everything you thought you knew about yourself. For Scotty James, an Olympic medalist, professional snowboarder, and father to 1-year-old Leo, this involved tackling a new challenge while balancing nearly twenty years of training and competing at the top with the unpredictable and humbling experience of dadhood. In this episode, Scotty opens up about: The shock of shifting priorities after becoming a dad How fatherhood has reframed his approach to sport and success Why some of the biggest lessons come from the smallest (and messiest) moments   Special thanks to RedBull for bringing this to life! BUY OUR SMELLY T SHIRTS HERE  https://www.twodotingdads.com/category/all-products Buy our book, which is now available in-store! https://www.penguin.com.au/books/two-doting-dads-9781761346552  If you need a shoulder to cry on:  Two Doting Dads Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/639833491568735/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheTwoDotingDads  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/twodotingdads/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@twodotingdads   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ashton, Matthew. A little question for you, my friend. What is a super flex for a dad? Reverse parking one-handed. There's no other way to park. It's how I do it every time. But using mirrors and no cameras. Oh, wow.

There it is. That's a very good point. But I was going to say knowing that when your kid is asked the question, what does your daddy do for a living? The answer is Olympic medal pro snowboarder. That's a big flex. I mean, I can't keep up with that fix. My kids just say, he works on his laptop.

He's on his phone the whole time. I know, mine's like, he wears a silly towel and he's happy and understand what's going on. I'm entertaining the masses. Honestly, Matt, I don't think our kids are ever, ever going to be able to say something as cool as that. Hang on a second. I'm 38, Ash.

There is still time for me to be a world champion at something. You were pretty good on the mountain, I will say. And just an FYI, we recorded this on a mountain. Thanks to Red Bull. They teed up this delicious little interview with Scotty James, who his dad to one-year-old Leo and husband to his lovely Canadian wife, eh, Chloe. Yes, Scotty James is training for the next Winter Olympics at the start of next year,

but this will also be the first time he's juggling it alongside his life as a dad. It's certainly new territory for someone whose whole life has revolved around being a professional athlete for almost, this is crazy, 20 years. Scotty does bring up how much of a shock to the system it was when he realized the shift in priorities. Also, the other things that come with being a daddy, he talks about some of the more messier situations that he finds himself in. As they say in the snowboarding world. I heard a lot of you now.

Let's get into it. Welcome back to three doting dads. I'm Maddie J. And I'm doting dad number three, Scotty. Oh, I nailed it. Very good, very good. Thank you. This is a podcast all about parenting.

It is the good. It is the bad. And the relatable. Now, Scotty, legally, Ash and myself, were not allowed to give any advice for yourself. Totally fine. You avoid from those restrictions. Loophole.

We found a loophole in the contract. The legal team said, Guess can you say whatever they like, but we can't. This is a unique. So we won't talk about before the show started when you give me all the advice. Yes, absolutely. Thank you. I like, thank you for that.

I appreciate your discretion. I won't bring that up. We'll have hit at this part out. Yeah, we're right out. We're locked in a basement right now. I mean, a basement, we were, we normally Scotty record at my house, but we're down at perisher at the moment. And we were meant to be in one room.

We got pulled out of that room. We got them put into like the luggage room where we are now. We set up in about three minutes. And they cleared all the bags out so quick. Like they were Olympic athletes. To be honest, I feel quite comfortable in here because it. It's very similar to hotel room that I would have stayed up with my mom at some point in my journey. Very nostalgic.

Going to Australian ski resorts. It's very ski. I'm relaxed. And also, they were like, you've got 30 minutes. And we're like, don't worry, we'll be as quick as we can. And then you sat down and said, boys, let's drag this out for as long as we can. Who have we listened to here? For the listeners at home, at Perish, there's a lot of snow.

It's also very windy and very cold. So in here is delightful. I will say. It will say. So we usually start these, Scotty, with, do you remember as a child the worst trouble you ever got in? That's probably a question for my mum. I was, my mom would say constantly,

I was presenting a lot of challenges to my parents all the time. I would say that with a very big smirk on your head. I was like, what I don't know what to believe here? Probably the one story my mom loves telling the most was to be honest, I look at it and I go, wow, that was honestly pretty intelligent. I got down to the local milk bar and I was in kindergarten, but I had to get out to go down a local milk bar. My mom was a basketball coach at our local team and my kindergarten was across the street

from the basketball stadium and the milk bar was another 500 meters past the basketball stadium. So it was territory I was very familiar with. I was at the basketball stadium every day. I'd go from kindergarten, the basketball stadium, watch my mom. um coach these basketball teams so in terms of um safety and knowing where i was going it was fine but the uh probably the bad part was i remember having my friend who's still a good friend of mine to this day because of this um had him get on his all fours and you know obviously naturally walking into kindergarten every day so you understand how to pop the gate yeah and um got up climbed

on on his back pop the gate opened up just headed on down to the milk bar. How far was it, do you think? Or like close to a little bit shy of a kilometre. That's still a long way. Yeah, decent. You've been like five or six years old here, right? Yeah, exactly.

So then you can imagine now whatever it was, recess or whatever has finished, and they do a head count, and I'm not there. So now it's this whole. Did you take you, mate, with you? No, he just, he stayed. You abandoned him straight away. Scott and go. You stay in. So I get down to the.

milk bar and sure enough they see me every day so they were like hang on check the time this doesn't seem right and then the people in the milk bar rang around and were like we have him and my mom at this point is losing it because i've gotten out of kinder and you know end up being this whole thing so that was probably one of the worst things i've done you're essentially escaped convict yes and your mom had to ring or they had to ring around and find because i can imagine the panic on your mom's like voice then like where is he yeah did you what do you remember the punishment or was it kind of i remember i don't think i was punished for it i think my mom just the problem exactly i knew there's a reason i think my mom probably just went terminator on the kindergarten to

be honest the fact that i even got out which is fair enough yeah that's i think that's fine nowadays that poor kidney teacher must be like how the fuck did he get out you're right there you go to the same gate every day. Like, my kids, I'm surprised they're too dopey to figure it out, I guess. I reckon nowadays it's probably, yeah, it's probably higher than it was. They've changed the height off the back of that. Also, I think there's a double gate situation. So I think there's two gates to get into kindergarten now.

These days, this is a podcast all about gates. Ours is, we have an app, so you swipe on your phone on the app to get in. Like the technology. There you go. Wow. Yeah. It's like Fort Knox. My daycare, hand them over.

I was thinking, like, when you were starting to compete internationally, it was from the age of like 14, 15. Like, if you're a little bit cheeky, being away from your family and being with other adults, it could have made you grow up really fast and become, like, more mature, or it could have made you even more cheekier. Yeah. Which one was it for you?

To be honest, I was, first, I went away with my mum to the Northern Hemisphere when we decided I would pursue snowboarding as a profession. when I was probably 11 because he needs to be quite young, maybe even 10. So 11's really young. Yeah. Yeah. Like what were the points that you were ticking off where everyone was going, yeah, let's do this. Because it's a big move.

Backflip. Yeah. Backflit was in there for sure. No way. There's not really a pathway either. Yeah. It's also not that accessible. So it was huge respect to my parents to have the courage to let me pursue it because, you know,

there was definitely not a moment in time where we were like, this is a guarantee. it's always you know it was never a sure thing i've always had like pretty good air awareness i did a bit of trampoline when i was a kid and then there was probably that once that first season i went over to the u.s and that was a bit of um a moment where it was like after this will continue or not because if you can beat you know the u.s kids and europeans then you know we probably should pursue it it was such a huge move when i was so young i think you'd grow up very quickly you know i'm still 10 or 11 years old. But once I hit my teenage years, you know, start traveling away from your parents. So yeah, I always stayed cheeky, but I think I also, although I was young, I respected

what I was doing, I guess, and I didn't necessarily take the piss all the time. So I know it's a massive thing for my parents to do financially, but also from a commitment perspective. What are the other athletes like, do they welcome you with open arms? Or they're like, look at this little fucking grommet. let's get him not as much now like the stuff I dealt with when I was agromet

compared to now I mean there's there's a HR department now yeah getting your head shaved died you know being wrapped in toilet paper

and like you know getting duct taped to the bed funny stuff yeah do you look at the young kids now and be like

you don't know how good you've got it yeah I sound like you've never been duct tape I sound a little bit like a old man

but nah for sure I mean now I don't know days is a lot more cushion around generally everything so you know it was all part of the course and it was fun like it's fun to think about the memories now remember going to new zealand um on my own it would have been 12 or 13 i was with my coach and his sister tore bright who's a you know um very successful female snowboarder from australia as well i was traveling with those two and i was almost like harry potter i was like staying in the house but my bedroom was under the stairs

so when they were waking up in the morning they'd like just it must be hard to find your person right and you've you're married now you've got kids obviously do you remember the first time you met chloe yeah i do uh i remember it very well and yeah you're right it was i think gosh look at them all light up talking about he's like oh god for sure i think obviously traveling so much and her family being in sport as well she and you know her lifestyle she travels a lot so she naturally just understood yeah i think if i was to you know i grew up in warren night if i was to date the girl next door it just doesn't quite compute which i fully understand so naturally she understood it really well you know that said it still has it's

challenging it challenges at at moments but yeah we met at a restaurant called motel maris in new york city who did you order i remember i remember a few bottles around one wine being consumed. But we had a great time and here we are, kid, married. Was it instant? Like pretty instant. I actually met her brother first and then he loves snowboarding. That's how we connected.

That's perfect. Yeah. If the woman you're chasing has a brother who's into what you do, the dream. Yeah, it's good. It's kind of like you get one foot in the door. One question that we always get. It's like our most asked question from people who don't have kids is when's the right time. For me, it was a bit of an accident.

A happy accident. We're kids. Surprise. Surprise. Accidents were here. Thank you. You got my back. Thank you.

You're like, hang on Matt. Don't talk about kids like that. Thank God. You're here. Thank you. How did that conversation evolve with Chloe about having kids and starting a family? Yeah, it's, to be honest, we also asked ourselves the same question. It's funny, you kind of just continue to ask it because you have one and you go, oh, you know, when do we want to have another one?

When are you ready? And I think the best answer. to that question is you just never are. I think you'll always find a reason not to have kids. And especially for us, we're like, oh, you know, what about traveling, what that's going to be like, you know, how is it going to affect your career? Are you going to become, for me, my biggest fear was like, all of a sudden I've, it sounds a bit grim, but like I've got a lot more to go home to now because I'm in a dangerous sport. And that was something that I was very timid about having kids because you need to be able to just kind of not, you know, factor that in.

but when so we had a lot of different things like that but we got married we kind of thought you know we'll see give it a little bit of time and then we kind of where we made the decision to be honest is I said to Chloe I was like hey you know we would be so lucky to also have kids because I know so many friends of mine that have tried to have kids forever and I'm like what if we can't have kids and what if we're just thinking that we're going to have this fairy tale which we did in the end which is amazing but like yeah we'll just try and then we'll have a kid it's like it might not be that easy we might have a five year path ahead of us or never so when we kind of talked about that it puts a lot of things

in perspective and we were like you know what let's not try but just see what continue with life and see what happens it's meant to be it's meant to be and sure enough like bang we got she got pregnant which was amazing and I'm a bit of a spiritual person in that sense I was like it was meant to be and yeah it changes you it changes you why you know we're you why and like I know when you were saying like now that you you're an extreme athlete and you put the word extreme in front of it there's the possibility of serious injury and or death not to make it morbid that like I can't imagine like you know my thought surrounded by wooden yes yeah yeah my thought changed and I'm not even an extreme athlete I can't imagine

what that thought is when you stand at the top of a run and you're like what's going to happen if I die yeah for sure I guess the success is in the process like if I prepare really well and I train well and I definitely don't stand there and think that. And I don't, to be honest, don't think about anything than other than what I'm doing in that mind. And I'm very present and I know that's where I'm safest. And I realize that very quickly, even when he was born. Childbirth is a pretty wild experience.

I went into it pretty naive. I didn't read any books or. Me either. I did a class. Did you? Yeah, it was like two Saturdays. I pretty much watched the WSL both times. the whole time.

We'll edit that out of the podcast. Nah, put it in there. How was it for yourself? Because you were training when Chloe went into labour. Is that right? I was in my preseason getting ready for the season. I was pretty well away right up until two weeks before Leo was born. On reflection, it was because being in sport, you're going to be very selfish.

Like I, and I would say this to Chloe, is like 99.9% of the time you're always thinking about, you know, what you have to do to. to be the best or if you want to be competitive that's how you have to think and operate and she respects that so when you have in a family all of a sudden it's still very much the focus but naturally just because you know i like being a bit more a family person i you know your attention goes um diverts a little bit but when leo was born so he was born on the third of october it was like a thursday night and he was born at like three or four a m or something and then i remember him being born and we have this amazing moment and then Chloe fell asleep and he was like

there next to me and I was like laying in bed and I was already like looking at the weather and then seeing people training and it just like I was like I've got to go and like I couldn't but that was like my so tough yeah yeah and I was like I've got to go so I naturally did what I thought was right in the moment instinctfully I left that like it's a day and a half later Now, when I say it out loud, I'm like, what a fucking asshole, because I actually feel like that. But she, again, bless her, she understood. But I remember getting to Switzerland, getting on the glacier, like gone through the process of going, thankfully, it's an hour flight. So I wasn't too far away.

And I got there and I just cried. And I was like, what the fuck have I just done? I was like, I can't believe I'm here. Yeah. And I think I didn't even take a run through the pipe and I got back and I flew home. Oh, my God. Went home. Yeah, I was like, I can't, I shouldn't be here.

That was also a really good moment to reflect on, although, you know, it could be perceived as about the wrong thing to do, which it was. I also realized in that moment that that day that I would have got actually didn't affect me in the long run. Like, you know, I still won world championship. I still won X games.

I still won, I still won all the marquee events that year. But I look back at that and I go, I actually wouldn't have accomplished anything that day. I should have just been there for Chloe. I should have been there for later. It's probably also like habit, right? Because you've been doing this at that point, way longer than you're being a dad.

Yeah, you've been conditioned to just be proud. Like I'll work. You know, sometimes you're like, I really don't feel like going to the office today. So I'm going to get out of this. I can't have a sickie. You know, or you're like, oh, I'll go to the gym and I can't be stuffed this morning because I'm tired. Whereas for you, it's like, no, if I don't do that, like, the impact on my job is huge when you're trying to be like number one.

I love a Duna Day. A good classic Duna Day. Yeah, like, as an athlete, you can't get Duna Day. Well, after that, after I went back, I had plenty of Duna days and I was there. And I loved it. When you're very primed all the time and you practice and you're there and you're present and you're in the moment, limits the risk of anything happening. So I also think that's a factor.

It's why, you know, I want to train so much. Do you think after having Leo, you got some dad strength? I think I got dad strength more so just internally because I remember I had an okay start to the season. And I was coming into Larks and that's like for us as an event, it's the pipe's perfect. You know, there's nowhere to look in terms of elements. I still think that people expect me to fail. Like they're waiting for me to not win. Yeah, right.

And it motivates me a lot and it's still my driving force. So I had that, but then the elevated part of that was, well, you expect me not to win and I'm a dad, fucking watch this. Yeah, that's epic. And I kind of, my brother, Tim, said the same thing to me. He goes, I think everyone thinks that you're not going to win this event. And he kind of, he was like, you need to go out and just, you know, hypothetically fucking knock him out. And we knocked them out. We always talk about how much of it.

We love our kids, but it is a bit of a handicap. It makes life a little bit harder. Yeah, he always is like a strength. You need to start competition. If you're a dad, you get like an extra like point going into a competition. Yeah, it's funny watching athletes. Any athlete really They're a new dad

Like for example Ruben Garek right For Manly Seagulls He had a kid The morning of the game Yeah His missus who's obviously In and around the sport

Her whole life said Go and play Scored four tries Yeah But also like Start the game Try up Yeah

He's a dad Give me to him Yeah He's true He's got Yeah He's non-dads out there Fucking hell

Give him four points already For me now My eldest Is six I've had some dad Tendencies come through like now like every time I get up if I get off I get off the seat I'd be like

if I see a nice bit of lawn I'm like ooh yeah the side the dad size is the best and I'm like oh the dad tendencies are creeping in do you have any dad tendencies that you're like oh god oh mine's comfort shoes I just won't I'm like I'll just if I'm putting on an outfit

and you know I'll try and look trendy it's always I always try very hard but never successful nowadays I'm like you know what, I'm just going to wear my runners. Like, I don't care. I'm going to go to the airport. I'm doing some mileage. I'm going to a training camp.

You know, I've got to go through security. I can whip it on off easy. I'm just wearing my runners. I'm not wearing anything that's uncomfortable. So that's probably a big dad thing of me. I also heard ankle socks is a big dad thing. It's a weird length of socks. It's not quite ankle.

It's not quite long. It's this weird in between that they sell. And it's like... When you're a dad, you're like, oh, it's pretty good. Yeah. You're like, it's really going to highlight my calf, muffles. So I've gone down the ankle sock road. Wow.

And I've been several occasions now. I've been caught out as a dad. I wear ankle socks. Ankle socks, new balance, and jorts. Yeah. That's the look. That's the trifecta. You're all over the world all the time.

I watch you all the time. With Chloe, also her brother and all over the world as well. It seems chaotic. Give us an insight to how it works for you guys. Well, it is pretty chaotic. Call a spade a spade. we actually, you know, we actually have someone helping us when we're traveling because to be honest, I think between my training, the traveling, the time zone changes, you know, my job being

pretty demanding, Chloe's being pulled around a lot as well. So when we do travel, we usually try and bring someone to help us. If we don't have someone, then we'll have a family member come with us as well, which is good. So that's been really helpful. But if we don't, then, yeah, I mean, naturally it presents some challenges and all of a sudden, you know, I used to go through security at the airport and like, oh, it's making me take my belt off and do I need to take my shoes off? Yeah, take your shoes off. I'm like, oh, do I have to take like my necklace off? Yeah, I'm like, oh, God. And then now you go and you're like, where do I even start? Like, yeah, I got him here. There's the freaking stroller and then his stuff and we saw a guy with the

I was like, in a bugaboo carrying it. And I was like, oh God, traveling with kids is hard. It's so funny. We're always about the light and shade here on the podcast. Parenting is unique because it has on both ends of the spectrum, the most amazing, incredible moments that are core memories for the rest of your life. But there's also moments that are so hard and exhausting. What are the really amazing moments that you love and what are the moments where you've

been like, shit? I didn't sign up for this. Shit would be a good start. Leo has got a habit at the moment of just set it's like 715 and we should have learnt by now that maybe 715 he's going to take a shit go take a shit and we put him in the bath because he always eats about 630 and we have a bit of play time then he has a bath and he goes to bed by 730 but he's in the bath at 7 and he's got a habit at the moment which I don't blame him I'm sure it's really nice to take a poo in the bath to be honest like I kind of watch him like

to be honest I reckon that's probably just really nice jealous. Not that I do this often, but taking a poo in the ocean. Aquiturred. Done that. Very good. It does feel good. Yeah. With a bit of wave action. So I get where Leo's coming from. I sympathize with it. A bit of wave action to wash it out. Yeah. And even more elevated is the lukewarm water, right? Yes. So the ocean, you know, you can't control that temperature. But he's in lukewarm water. It's impossible not to shit. Yeah. Yeah. Also, the salt contains it once it comes out. So that's one thing that he started doing. And we, fair enough, we laugh and think it's really funny.

Do you dig it out of the drain or do you stomp it down? It depends. Like, sometimes they're quite solid and, you know, they float. But then recently they've been a bit more, yeah, the runny consistency. So he just goes down the drain. A bit of force that goes down. Yeah. The big ones, you've got to put your hand in and grab it.

You're like, oh, fuck. Exactly. But probably one of the more challenging moments. Yeah, for me, it's probably just the traveling. like I'm spending so much time away. I feel like every time I come back, he's got like a new tooth. He's like this little timestamp where when I leave and I come back, you feel like you're missing out on something.

Do you have that fear that you might miss out on a milestone that you really, really want to be there for? Yeah, for sure, all the time. How do you battle that when you're also trying to stay so focused on sport? I just said to Chloe, I was like, if he walks or something, when I'm not around, don't tell me. Push it. Stay down, dance, start.

Yeah, oh, I know. Do not argue, just stay down on the ground. I'm just like, don't tell me. Like, just pretend when I come back, like, oh, my God, it's his first step. Yeah. I'd be happy. I think, like, where I get a lot of validation in what I'm doing is that, you know, I hope one day, you know, whether, maybe I miss those moments is like,

I can say, hey, when I was away, when you were little baby, like, this is what I was doing. And it was. When you're winning world championships. It's pretty epic, bro. Like, my six-year-old will ask me who, I was with and I'll show you guys on YouTube and he'll be like that is epic and they're like dad show me you and I'm like and he's like

that's it you left us for five days for this where are your flips oh my god and for Chloe obviously she understands the lifestyle the job the career so well that when you mentioned before you can't marry the girl next door and do what you do because

they would probably get the shits with you that you're missing these milestones like my wife does like if I'm away and I'm working it might be a case which she's like well you missed them doing You're not winning world championship, so are you, buddy? That's right. Yes. I'm on day two, Matt.

You never know. There's still time. There's still time. Might get a call up. What are the moments that you love? For me, getting a smile. Yeah. Like that, there are people who listen to the podcast who don't have kids and they're probably

thinking, it's a dog smiles at me. Yeah. Yeah, the bottom line is if you don't have kids, it's very hard to just relate. I remember my brother would say stuff before I had kids and I'd be like, oh, here we go. Saying stuff about the kids again But now I'm obviously a dad Now he's almost 11 months He recognises me

Like on FaceTime but also in person And it's just that little blip that he gives me He's tough to get a smile out of But is the best And we always say there's something that kids can give you That nothing else can Yeah And it's that little moment

The first time they smile at you And it's like It makes it all worth it You could have the shittest day in the world Even with them involved sometimes you've shadowed me twice today. Yeah. But I'm now putting you into bed

and you've given me the cheeky smile and you're like, God damn it. Yeah. I love you so much. And then like, I wish you kids. You're like, go to sleep. Somehow if you could just put it in a, in a pill, maybe we're under something here.

And there's people that aren't parents, just like. It's called MDMA. Oh, there you go. Well, not that I would know if my wife's listening. And my mom. But yeah, it is special. Getting a smile, it's cool. Now, when you compare yourself back before you had kids,

and I'm sure when Chloe was pregnant, you're imagining what kind of dad you're going to be like. Is it the same, the person you thought you'd be and the dad you are now? It's a good question. I think I am the dad that I want to be. Like Chloe always says, as much as I'm away when I'm home, I'm very, I am super present, and I consciously make a decision, like get off my phone.

And even though sometimes, like, being frank, like sitting there watching him do the same thing for an hour is pretty boring. So naturally you want to like pick up your phone and, you know, maybe check something. But I like consciously don't. I'm like just, I literally stare at him for hours just because I know that when I'm not doing that, I've got to go and I'm going to be like not thinking about it. But yeah, I think I am. And I reckon you obviously also, too, you learn a lot from my parents.

And then, you know, you think about things that they did for me and how I want to emulate that. And yeah, so I think I am. But that's probably a question for Chloe. Well, she's here right now. Come on in. Are you going to push him to. You are not the father. You start dancing.

Are you going to push, do you think you're going to push the young fella into the family business of snowboarding? Like, Chloe's old man, funnily enough, when he was like first born, we're having a laugh because he was like, no go-carts, no snowboards, ballet shoes. He's quite a big powerful man, dude. He's quite a big, like, powerful guy. Yeah, and you'd be like, okay. Why ballet? I don't know, because I think it's just like.

So far from. Just so far from anything that we do. The extreme. Yeah. It's not like, you know, life-risking. every single day but don't tell a ballet dancer that bro yeah true they'll be like we risk our lives on the floor don't they don't have you ever done a pirouette they're a pirouetting it's nothing yeah um but i don't know i'm probably just very i do think about that in my case because none of my family

professional skis we didn't live at the mountains we didn't like none of my journey was because of something my family did i think about that with leo i'm like it doesn't really I don't think it necessarily matters. Like, he'll probably pick what he wants to do anyway, which I'm like, as long as you enjoy it, that's all that is. And it's like, for us who have a slightly older kids, it's super cool when they like what you like. Even just for a split moment, you're like, yeah.

Yeah, 100%. To my girls, I'm like, who wants to play the cricket? And they're like, fuck off, dad. And Matt's getting his nails painted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. I love it. But we, like, now on Sundays, the rule is, like,

Chloe will not let Leo yet. I'm like waiting for it. will not let him watch TV. Like, he won't watch TV. He's only 10 months old, so he's not really going to watch it anyway. The TV was parenting my kids at that age. Yeah, but she's like, he can't watch TV. And I'm like, all right, but on Sundays, rules go out the door.

Like, I'm what, personally, I want to watch the footy. So I'm not sitting in a living room, like, staring at the wall. Sorry, but we're going to put the footy on. So now on Sundays, I put the footy on, and he'll sit there, stand in his little thing and just and it kills her but you know on Sundays we watch some footy and I get joy out of that for sure yeah that's pretty awesome

when Leo is all grown up he's an adult let's assume that he's going to fly the nest he's no longer living with you and Chloe what is the one thing you would want him to remember about the house he grew up in the one thing would be that he always

he could always come home and know that everything was okay. Like, it doesn't matter what he's done, you know, if he's having trouble with his friends or anything. Like the second you walk through your front door, you know that like mom and I are there. I love that. Also, very fitting from someone who was breaking out of kindies at the age of four. It's fine that you broke out of kindi.

Don't worry about it. My mom always says that she's like, oh, if he's anything like you. Yeah, that's such a grandparent sentence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's true, though, because I actually, I think I want that because that's what I had. Even though I would have, you know, did, definitely was a troublemaker, I always knew that I could go home. Yeah. And I would be like, okay.

What's that like? Scotty, thank you so much for spending some time with us today in this lovely log cabin. We can just keep, we'll stop recording, just pretend like we're still going on with this podcast. Because everyone from Red Bull right now is like waiting for the, like, the knock on the dog. Stoppage and talking. As the weather. There's no sun yet. Let's just keep talking. Scott, we appreciate it. Thank you so much, dude. Yeah, thanks guys for having me. And it's fun to talk about dad's stuff. It's actually, it's quite refreshing now. I always talked about sport my whole career. And obviously still do, but it's

really nice to talk about something, to be honest, that's so much more significant than anything I'll ever do in sport. So, well, anytime you want, you can come on. Yeah. You want to chat dads? We're all. he is. When you want to talk angle socks, give us a buzz. Yeah, we would suggest a few brands here. Thanks so much, mate.

Cheers. What a lovely bang. Oh, was he? Joking. He's great. He's great. And another big thank you to Red Bull for teeing that up for us

and having us, showing us around as well, which was great at an amazing time and a great chat with Scott. And good luck to Scotty James for his next competition. Yes. I think it's in China.

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