Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash - #239 This Show Is BORING!

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

This week, Ash takes Oscar on a trip to make some core memories which might just earn him Dad of the Year. Meanwhile, Matt is trying to avoid kicking off another sibling rivalry while celebrating Marlie's birthday, but one very unimpressed child isn't exactly sold on the entertainment. Plus the boys settle the debate on Australia's favourite biscuit, say goodbye to one of our OG listeners and finally retire one of the worst nappy bags we've ever seen (sorry, Vic). And Ash has a new book! You can preorder it here If you'd like to send some kids' artwork to hang in the studio - send to suite 104/283 Alfred St North, North Sydney, NSW, 2060. If you need a shoulder to cry on:  Two Doting Dads Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/639833491568735/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheTwoDotingDads  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/twodotingdads/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@twodotingdads  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I've got something to show you. Actually, I've got something to tell you and show you, but I'll get you to start the show first because it's dog piss related. And you're really going to love it. Welcome back to two doting dads. I am Maddie J. And I'm Ash.

And this is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, it is the bad. And the relatable. And we will never, ever, ever. Not even if our life depended on it, give advice. Well, if I had to, I probably would. Gun to head and someone's like,

give me a solid piece of advice, then I would. I'd like, reluctantly. If I had to, I'd eat my own shit. If it meant I was going to stay, if I was going to stay alive, I wouldn't get that part. Someone was like, you have to have a little taste. What if it was runny? Okay, let's move on.

It's always running at the moment. Oh. What have you got for me? Okay, so we're talking the other day about Buster, how you were saying he kept shitting in the house. He has, I don't want to jinx it. It's been a while. Okay.

He's doing better. That's good. In case Buster's like, keep embarrassing me in the podcast. He's doing very well. He's our number one listener. Yes. He's just at home, just listening to the backlog.

Hasn't reviewed yet. No. But just poor. One poor. That's a reference to Matt's three-legged dog. He has three legs. Yes. The other night over the weekend, we were showering the kids, okay, and that's quite, as

you know, it's quite a routine. And especially on a weekend, it's a bit silly. It's always a bit silly because I've had the whole day off. They've had the parties and stuff like that. Maybe a bit silly. What's going on? What's happening in your household? I just mean like it's not.

You're bringing the lulls. Bring in the lull. It's not as structured as a week one. where you're like, get it and get it done, go to bed, leave me alone. Sometimes on the weekend it's 845 and I'm like, fuck, you guys are still here. I come into the other room. I'm like, I ain't meant to be asleep. It was like, you haven't showered us.

Anyway, so I'm showering both. And during that time, we have neglected the dog's needs, which is to go outside. Squiggly. Squiggy. Right. And no one really knows. So in protest, she's done a big old wee on the rug. Okay.

At first, I was like, we can't get angry because we're at fault. We're at fault. So we only yell at. her a little bit and just make yourselves feel better. And then I realized that the pea patch looks like spot the dog. She's doing art. Bro, get ready for this. Either this is amazing or I was, I was an edible deep.

Ready? Go ahead. Spot. That's a self-portrait. That is squiggly. Have a good look at that. I was like, April, is this just me? And she was like, no, that's incredible.

Is that a shadow of your penis? No. That is thick. Thank you. I've been working on that. That's a self-portrait. The head shape, the legs, the tail. The whole bit.

We'll have to put it on somewhere so someone can see it. I don't think it looks like Spot. I think it looks like Squiggly. Yeah, it's a self-portrait. Yeah, okay. We go out of the moment. If I'm going to put my critique hat on, I'd say too much of a rigid jaw here. Spots are very curved.

I don't know. I reckon if we get Spot up, maybe a cross between Spot and Brian from Family Guy. But how does it feel that I see a puddle of Pearson? think about you. Why do you think about me? I wanted to show you so bad. I wanted to text it to you immediately and I was like, don't show him in person because it's amazing. It's Picasso. It's almost you don't want to clean it up. Piscasso. You want to like cut that out of the rug and then frame it. It's already framed up and that hell. Put it on the wall. It's on the feature wall at home. Anyway, we've got a couple of new things in the studio, Matt. You want to run us through it.

Look, budget wise. We've blown it. It, oh, just the algorithm knows when I'm at, at my weakest. And I was thinking, hey, neon light, that'd be cool, started getting ads. And I was like, how do I pitch this into Ash? You were actually quite easy to convince. I didn't need convincing whatsoever. I know, you're a big neon guy, which I now, I didn't know that going into it. Now we've got a neon guy. Yeah. I also was a bit wary being scammed because it was like, it was all just too good to be true. And it was like, your order will be ready in one week. And then it took a little while to get here. It's been. made offshore, not that I don't love, the neon manufacturers of this country.

Shout out to them. In abundance. And it was taking a long time and I was like, I got fucking scammed here. I was like, oh, yeah, I hate that for you. Cost about, I think it was about five, six hundred bucks. That did. Take it back. No, that's all right.

It's great quality. It is. I reckon I could have made that. Oh, fuck off. You could have done the wording and then you would have run out of steam. It would have like. Oh, the ADHD would have. really kicked in and it would have been like, oh, butterfly.

No, we've got the neon sign. We've also got the cork board, the art. In the show notes, you put in the show notes, Vic, the address of our studio so people can send in their kids art? Yeah, kids art only, please. If you want to put in any pictures, like, of yourself. No used underwear. Oh, Jesus.

Well, you never know. Have you received used underwear from the voter? Oh. Matt. No, so I had someone ask me for some socks on, so I tried to sell them on eBay, and then eBay took them down. Fun police, bloody eBay. You can't do anything these.

days. Start an only fan. I did that for my feet, remember, a long time ago, but that's a story for another time slot. Yes. Okay. Fixed like, fuck, yeah. No, so the studio, yeah, we're in the new studio. A few people commented and said, wow, it sounds great.

And I don't know if they were being polite or if they were being genuine. Does it sound any different? Sounds sarcastic. They're like, oh, that's not a good. Weren't the money. That neon sign really helps for the audio. They're like, we can hear this weird buzzing in the background. This is a bit on.

like an old convenience store. They're the new features. So if you want to send in your crap art from your kids, which is majority of, we will take it off your hands. Great. If it's phallic, I'm all for it.

Yes. That'd be great. And we can even do a compilation for socials if you don't mind. I do mind. Would you? No, I don't. Just more fallas. Like a little carousel.

Carousel of penis-looking drawings. By the time this comes out, we will have posts. a little cheeky tour. I almost say a tour. The world's shortest tour. It's just, we'll give you the run through of what's on the shelves behind us. You may see the little shelves, the floating shelves that would just put up beautifully by Dan, Vick, your beautiful husband.

What a guy. Beautiful? Partner. Handsome. Sorry, partner. Dan, fucking drop a knee. He's dropped a knee. He's yet to, they're getting married on the pod.

We're doing a podcast marriage. We're doing a live stream. We'll put Dan there, you here. I'll finish my celebrants thing there. Matt can be the witness, the host, the musician. With the neon sign buzzing in the background. Yeah. I mean, it is good, bad and relatable.

It is. It's got a strove function too. They're not very romantic. We'll change it. We'll change it to the good, the bad and the romantic just for the wedding. Well, just on the studio, we did get a few messages. One person wrote in Sue. Hey, Sue.

And she said loving... How do you spell that? It's actually S-O. No, it's fucking not. It is. They're drawing me now. No. Sue.

That's so. No. That's so. How dare you? Oh, shut up. That is so disrespectful. Between Sue and Jerica, I'm losing the plot. Ash thinks he's being stitched up here.

I am definitely being, I'm just waiting for like something real obscure to come through where it's like, it's Tim. How's it spelled T, the number one and then M? Double M. N. The N is silent. But she said, loving the new studio, but did we purposely not paint the wall? behind Ash. Oh, fuck off. Sue, stay in your lane.

She said, ha ha ha, just when we thought we'd had enough of studio updates. Yeah, what are we going to talk about? Was the studio being finished? Parenting, I guess. Fuck. What is? Would you like to answer the question?

I don't have a problem with it. But it was on purpose. It was on purpose because... We didn't run out of paint. We didn't run out of it, no. Matt and I had... All the budget went to the neon sign. We had no money for paint left.

Sorry, Ash. That's the right answer. No, the right answer is we had a heated debate, and I decided on my side, I don't want it to be green, because that side green is fine. And that's it. So thanks for bringing up old wounds. Can I just ask quickly before we move on from the studio,

because I look at your white wall, I'm fine with it. It's great. Can I just check how you're going looking at the green wall behind me? Because that's what you're, you know, I forget that you have to look at that. Is it okay? That's fine. Okay. Yeah, I don't feel encased to buy it.

We'll see when that one goes. Vicks wall is going to go green as well. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. We're going to... And some shelves. Can I just say really quickly, I'm going to put this in housekeeping.

Is this the hottest winter we've ever fucking had? Holy dick. Well sad. Holy dick cheese. That's amazing. Like, it is, I mean, this morning was a bit nippy, but it's, like... I love it when it's like just that sunny and cold. Oh, it's heaven.

And you're stand in it? And you could top up like a snake. Yeah. And then you just... Like a reptile. Oh, but. We didn't find that funny at all. No, Vic was like, now she's moving us on.

Now moving on. Exciting news, Matt. Breaking news. Breaking. No, that's different. Sorry, I apologize. Sorry, Vic, that was not. I was not going to...

That's it. Now, Matt, you know how hard of these to get your kids at your dinner? Oh, it's a bloody nightmare. Well, I've written a book about it. Oh, okay. So the book is about why you take your kids to daycare or whatever it might be, and they have notification systems or when you get there, they tell you that they ate all their food. Yes.

Sometimes more. And it's frustrating as a parent because you spend majority of your time at home trying to figure out what to feed these beasts. Begging. Yeah, you're like, eat. But me and Macy are just like, she's just not eating for fun now. I know. Parents are like, oh, my boy, we'll eat everything. I'm like, fuck, it's like, I'm going to put tomato sauce on everything to get Lola to eat.

Macy doesn't eat sauce. That's like, that's fucking devastating. I'm sorry. Corn thins, just dust. She eats dust. With a bit of butter on it? No, just. Raw dog.

They don't even have butter with vegamite. What is it wrong with you? I know. I know. I'm thinking about leaving myself. Yeah. Are you? Is everything okay?

Everything fine. It'll be fine now that this book is coming out. So it is a kid, kids picture book called the secret ingredient. Okay. And it's about those moments of when you are. Is it? I don't want to spoil it.

Is it love? Is what love? The secret ingredient? No. Incorrect. Okay. Close. You're not far off.

Kind of. Oh, you could love the people that you're eating with, I guess. So it's based on my family, sorry, and we drop the kids at their relative daycares and getting that notification that says they've eaten all their lunch. And then you try and figure out why they would eat at school and not at home. So in the book, I try various different methods, making the food fun, entertaining, as you try to do as a parent, which you go online and all the hacks of that sort of stuff. And then it gets to the end of the book and it's, we can't

figure it. We're at our wits hand of why we can't figure out why the kids are. You'll eat there, but not at home. And it turns out that they like to eat at school because they all eat together. And there's your secret ingredient, togetherness. But make sure you buy the book. But make sure you buy the book. That wasn't, it's actually in a little bit more detail than that. That's a good overview.

So it'll be available in July. I'll leave a link in the show notes when we have it, I guess. And can I just say, who's your illustrator? He's up and coming. The publisher actually found him through social media. Oh, wow. And this is his first ever book. He usually would just do art.

He's unreal. The drawings look fucking awesome. It's got a lot of Bob's Burger about it. Because obviously I'm a character. Bob has a mustache. I have a mustache. But he's done my tattoos and stuff. Both my kids are in it.

A good Japanese anime, if I may. Really? Didn't get that. Okay. Sure. Bob's burgers. Bob's burgers. Bob's burgers is like similar, similar style.

It's a TV show. TV show. So, yes, keep an eye out for it. Next couple of weeks, it'll be available. Well done. Congratulations. And all available at all good bookstores and Big W. I cannot wait to read it to my kids.

Thank you. So July. And we'll have it in the show notes. Congratulations. Thank you very much. And yeah, make sure you fucking buy it. Sorry. Yeah.

Amen, brother. Amen, brother. That one slipped out. No, I liked it. And you better fucking buy it all. That'd be not. more podcast episodes. Hey, we finally reached a thousand reviews.

Hey. Do you know what happened? I screenshot it on 999 and I was like, well, pretty close. And I was like, I'll go have a little quick look. And it was like 998, 990. I'll say, how are we losing reviews? I saw this too and I was like, what the actual fuck? Get a life, guys.

No offense. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Someone's got to fucking care about the problem. But you guys are watching the numbers go down. It's a thousand reviews. We are actually on like multiple thousands on Spotify. So how does it go down?

Yes, we don't know. And did it go back up? Now we're at 1,000. A thousand and 10. Maybe that was just like checking that they weren't duplicate. It has been a roller coaster of a couple of days for Dick and I. Wow. I'm not wondering why you guys aren't responding on a course.

It was like three in the morning. I was like, Vic, we've done it. Has it gone down at your end? No, it's to everyone who has left a review. Thank you. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Oh, Josh White and Ash.

Friends of mine had a baby this morning. Oh, congratulations. Boy, girl. A little boy. Germain, J-M-A-N-E. Germain. Germain. Spelt?

J-E-R-M-A-Y-N-E. Yeah, that checks out. I was, I was a joke as an eye in there. Healthy-looking baby. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow, well-formed. That child is well-formed.

That is a well-formed child. Cooked. To Ash to Josh, congratulations. Great news. Vic, you've got a note here about platter mums or packet mums. Just before you do that, it was your birthday the other day. So, happy birthday. Yeah.

Actually, yeah. Can we just quickly, how did you celebrate? Girls Night in Manly. We saw. Very fun. Yeah, it looks good. Many cocktails for house. Ah, what can I?

And do you know what? Everyone was like, thank you so much for getting us out of the house. And like we really needed this. Like we've got a lot of them have like two year old. So they're in the terrible twos. And they were like, this was so needed like in the middle of winter. Yeah. So what time did you finish up?

1.30. Oh. I know. Don't let it affect you work, okay? But I was on the waters by like 1130, I reckon. We were just talking and yapping away. Can I try and guess your cocktail of choice? Yeah.

Okay, I reckon you're an espresso. I was going to say the same thing. No. For a tingle. No. Margarita. Yeah. Spicy mark.

Spicy mark at the start of the night. At the end of the night, I like an amaretto sour. Oh, wow. Some port. My grandfather was a big port guy. As you can imagine. Rest in peace? Yeah.

And it's disgusting. Yeah. No good. Vic, before we go into your story, actually, just off the back of your birthday, we have a little something for you. We do. What? I really forgot. Oh, my God.

Yeah, let me get it. No, you don't have to do that. It's a neon sign. It's going to be shipped as well. It's got to go above your bed. It's not a sex story from Japan, is it? Damn it. It's on us.

Oh my God. It's so big. You wrapped it. Happy birthday. Thank you. Oh, you got me. That's good for you, Matt. The best present ever.

Thank you. Yeah. And it's a preem. It's a little new preem tote bag. And this morning I'm like pulling Louis's underwear out of my handbag and I'm pulling socks and now you can pull them out and put them in that. And now I get to just have a nice check out. Don't have a profesh. You look great.

It looks like an executive producer. And we thought. Thank you. This is like the best gift ever. Oh, no, it's nothing. Pretty good. Look at us. I'm blushing.

That's what it feels like. That's what it's what it feels like. That feels good. I love giving things. Yeah. And you got your trip coming up so we thought you might need a new bag on your trip. Oh, I'm not taking it on that trip. The kids are rolling.

Well, we'll give it back then. No, but now I've got a work bag and like, you know, I've been winching about it every week. Look, we didn't want to be seen in public with you with that other one again. I'm sorry, we got you a new one. Your other prine bag. It's on fire at the front. That bag has served you very well. It has.

You are a darn. No. Oh, my God. How do we tip you tell around this? Your bag sticks. It is, it is. It's got stains. No, it's well loved.

It's a great. It's a beautiful bag. I took it out the other night because my friend had like, hand me down. She's like, bring a big bag. And my friend's like, Did you bring a nappy bag to the movies? I was like, oh my God, I'm so embarrassed about this. Not anymore.

It comes in with like a, what are they called a pantsuit. I will. Full corporate. Happy birthday. Thank you. That was really sweet. Yes. And back to, sorry, we've got sidetrack there.

Platter mums. Platter mums. Yeah, so you spoke about something on the podcast in our last housekeeping app. And when I listened back, I was like, this is such an interesting topic because I know as a mom, I love to put a label on things. Physical and metaphorical. Oh, yeah. As a dad, I want to do it.

You guys talked about platter mums versus packet mums. We talked about it? Yeah. Me? We said something? I know. Was it me or Ash? Who was it?

Ash brought it up how when kids come over and they want to eat the food that you've got because April is a platter mom and she always has this beautiful platter when they go out of like cut fruit and vegetables, sandwiches, things like that. It's a long shot. When you're outside the house, else. Yeah, if it's like, if we're going, like, say we're set to go, right, we're going down the park, it's going to be a big morning at the park.

Yeah. That's the activity. Yeah. The snack platter has to match the vibe of the activity, which is we're going to be out and about. The food needs to be out and about. Yeah, I love that. And then we've got people like Matt who are a packet mom or dad who you just literally chuck packets that's me.

Yeah, that's me too. That's me too. Chippies in the music bars and like a yogurt. Yogurt's a good one because then you feel like, oh, that's healthy. You're fully sugar. That's healthy. It says strawberry on it. So, yeah.

Yeah, so I just loved the difference between like a packet mum and a platter mum, and then I chucked it on Instagram to get a vibe from the dodas. Where we have. What's going on? 59% are platter mums. I thought there'd be less than that. And 41% packet mums. It's pretty even split.

I'm actually a bit of a hybrid. That equals 100. I'm a bit of a hybrid, I think. Well, no, actually, I would go as far as to maybe cut up some grapeies, grapes. And some apple. As far as I'm concerned, there's two types of mums. Platter mums, packet mums. Now, platter mum, okay, is if you're leaving the house to go on a play date or whatever you might be doing with the kids,

you would cut up fruit, have it nicely segregated in, I don't know, a container or a platter if you want. A smorgas board. A snorkees board, if you will. Yes. And then a packet mum is someone, look, either either, there's no wrong. Is, okay, well, I've got a packet of something, put it in there. Yogurt in there. Pack it in chippies. My kids are really into fucking salami sticks at the moment. Twiggy sticks. Oh, they love a salami stick. I'm a twigie stick dad. I'm sure it's like, what's it called when things give you cancer?

Twiggy sticks. Carcinogenic. Do you know, I recently just learned about this because I've seen a nutritionist. If you swap a twigie stick for a jerky stick, it's amazing. What's the twigie stick? Twiggy stick is the salami, skinny salami stick you get from the deli at woollies or coals or whatever. The primo one. The kale takes has this. organic beef. Galtex. Jerky. E-10. They are fucking delicious.

They're probably really good for you. Do you reckon they are? I'm always like, well, I'm sorry kids. You're getting cancer. But your kids love jerky. But I love it. But every time I get anything with the fridge, the meat sticks are just like,

hello there. And I'm like, oh, I've got to save that for lunch tomorrow. Because Laura's always like, who's eating the fucking meat sticks? And I'm like, oh, it was Buster and Nana. They are good. And like when we go to the shops, we go to the deli and buy a couple of them.

And the kids sort of snack on them as we're going through the shops. They're great. I don't know what's in it. Probably lips and assholes, but whatever. I wish my kids would eat the platters. They're just, they're just bloody useless. They're more packet. They're just like a packet of chips far out.

Yeah. Macy's into the little packets of Pringles at the moment. Oh, they're like little ones. Yeah. Oh, Pringles. And the mini chalk chip biscuits. I'm getting hungry. Oh, Ash, we spoke about the fact that we found out we had a three-year anniversary, Vic.

This is very exciting, very romantic. How did we find out? Because our business name had expired. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was like, when you were like, oh, yeah, it's up for renewal. And I was like, oh, three years. That went fast. Three years.

Did we renew it? No, I did renew it. You did? It was a hundred bucks. That's great value. Yeah, I know, compared to the neon sign. Oh, God. That's like a third of a neon sign.

Everything right now is just like, that's one eighth of a neon sign. That's good value. That's like five neon signs and they used jet ski. So we had the option for the one year or the three year. And what do we do? What do you reckon? You committed. I committed.

There's three years. Three years. We've got to do it now. We were on the fence there on Friday. Got to get our money's worth. You called me Saturday. You were at the RSL because Laura was back. Were you a bit tipsy when you called?

You never call me back. I was like, oh, quick, he's calling. Guilty. Yeah, thank you. I'll take it. And when was the anniversary of when you guys met? It was the back end of 2022. It would be November.

November, it was. So this year will be four years? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ditch and run. Oh my God, I've been waiting to show you this. Ditch and run. Again, for the audio people, sorry. Shut up.

Shut up and watch it on YouTube. I stumbled across a video on social media. I don't know if you've heard of social media before, but it's out there. Rings a bell. Rings a bell. I just want to show you this video and let me know what sort of level of dadding do you think this is. Can I help you? No.

Um, what are you doing here? I'm really sorry. I was going to ding-dong ditch you guys. I'm super sorry. Did you, you know what you're out here doing this? I would call him right now. Yeah, he does. No.

I doubt that. What's the hold up? You're dad? Yeah. He goes ding-dong ditching with him? Yeah, he says it's a core childhood memory and he wants to be a part of it. That is not fucking real. That's so good if it is.

Even if it's not, it's good. That is fucking... The kid sounds a bit scripted, but I love it if it's true. We used to... What's the hold off? I love that sort of parent. I used to have a friend of mine's mom used to say we were bored and it was nighttime. and what she'd do is like near my place at Worrywood there's a really long park and at night

it's like pitch black and she would be like all right you get out of the car here and run to the other end of the park and I'll meet you there in the car and like you'd see the car going up and we would run and she gives us 20 bucks like that was her her form of entertainment just yeah yeah yeah it was like oh my god should we do it and we were like what 10 or something like we're like that age but that sort of parenting that's the sort of parent I want to be I imagine if you guys got abducted that would be so funny. And they're like, how do they get taken in the parks? Like, well, look.

Well, I'll tell you what, I didn't have to give up 20 bucks. I fucking love that sort of stuff, like where it's like you're doing something wrong, but you're doing it together. It's harmless. No one's really, you know. It's a victimless crime. It's a victimless crime. Come on, get a lot.

I know, she looks so insane. Is it victimless? Because, okay, if you're- Have you done it? Well, yeah, we should do it. And like, if you're staying at a hotel, you know, you do. Because then when you're, you sit. siblings running back.

You shut the door. You shut the door. Yeah, yeah. That's good. So mean. I think that's just good bonding. If you're doing that at one in the morning, that's fucking annoying. But if you're doing that, it's still daylight.

That's good year. That's just reminded me of there was a really drunk guy that came and, like, was knocking on our door. And then eventually he climbed over the fence and climbed up into our balcony and, like, passed out on the roof. Sorry about that. I don't drink anymore, Vic. That was old me.

And I was such a little kid at the time. I was like, what is going on? It wasn't intruder. He was just drunk and he thought it was his home. Oh, that's fair. Yeah. That's happened to all. A victim was crying once again.

When we lived in a unit block, I remember my dad, and he wasn't pissed or anything, but all the doors looked the same. He kept walking into the downstairs house and he was like, walked in downstairs again. I'm like, what are they doing? He's like, hey, cooking something real good down there. And then he was just like, all of a sudden he knew him by name. He just walked, made me in. Not to embarrass my sister, because she does listen to.

the pod and she got a little shout out being my tandem parent she loved it but we used to live together in apartment one time she got bland and she came out into the living room thinking it was the bathroom and i was like oh and i was like she came in and she go she's like stumbling and i go you were fucking drunk tonight and she's like and like starts to like take a pants up to and i was like holy shit you think this is the toilet and i was like oh had to grab her like spit around i put in the toilet usher into the bathroom i was like that was a victim was crying That was like a parenting training. That's what that was.

Little did I know. Breaking news, Vic. Yeah, I've got a bit of sad breaking news today, guys. Oh, God, you're not quitting, aren't you? Oh, never. I love this job. It's my favourite day of the week. Especially after that present.

Are you having to work for free because we have no money? Because of the neon sign. No to lock her in for six months. But OG Dotas might remember a dog called Alan Rickman, who we have talked about several times on the show. Don't you dare. He ate all the croissants. He did.

He ate all the croissons at Christmas and then shut on all the presents. Yeah. What's happened to Alan Rickman. This can never look. This is not good. Yeah, Alan Rickman passed away. So no more croissons will be eating this Christmas. No.

Damn you! And if I may, I'd like to read a few words from its owner about the dog that brought so much. Can we put some funeral music behind this? It was time for us to say goodbye to our big, gorgeous hound, Alan Rickman, after he showed signs of being very sick, very quickly. Too many croissants. No, croissons to do that. Oh.

Sorry. For Alan. Sorry. Sorry. We're very sensitive, but also very insensitive. They're going to mention Alan Rickman on the podcast. Guys, Shh.

This dog brought so much joy. Most people have a great Alan Rickman's story. He came on holidays, road trips and camping adventures. He loved Utes. We never actually owned one, but that didn't stop him chasing other people's and trying to jump in. Watching him grow older and slower while our kids got bigger and faster has been very special.

He was endless. gentle with them, sleeping with Izzy during loud storms, or doing a lap of the house every night before he went to bed to make sure everyone was okay. He didn't like cats or loud noises, but he did love croissons, lots of them. Yeah, he did. We never really worked out what he was, part horse, part cat, part Jack Russell, all somehow crossed with a wolfhound bull Arab. He was a wonderful dog, deeply loved, a big part of the family who we sorely missed. Dale Alan Rickman. To Alan Rickman.

Yeah. Leave your croissons out at night for Alan. Yeah. That's what he would have wanted. But in some lighter news. Oh, they've got a new dog. What a gear change. Yeah, well, you know, at the news bulletin, they start with the tragedy and end with an uplifting story.

Give me the shit sandwich. Australia's favourite biscuit has been announced. And the result might just knock you off your chairs. Well, both these chairs are missing a screw. So, go on. Who's responsible for that? Well, anything I put together, one screw gets left out. It's like a calling card.

It's tradition. Well, Australia's number one biscuit is... What do we got? What do we got? Arrowroot. The Scotch Finger. Oh, yeah, okay. Good all-rounder. Really?

Dense? I think... Good density. Yeah, but I think... Add the chocolate underneath it. I think who... Do you know what that is? The boomers have come out and force it.

Wait, sorry, sorry. No, no, no, no. I will not be silenced by the boomers. Not a bad biscuit. So this is not actually an insult, But we know who had the time to take this survey. And it was no one's... I don't remember being asked.

Yeah. I wasn't consulted here. And that's the thing they would have the option. It was like, oh, tasty. You got arrow root, scotch finger. Monte Carlo. Montecalo. Well, we go to ginger snap.

I love a ginger snap. I love it. I love it. Oh, the traditional Anzac biscuit. Hussar. And everyone was like, oh, what's a tough choice? And it was like, Tim, oh, too sweet. Orio.

Well, the Humble Biscuit scored five stars for overall satisfaction and four stars for taste, value, texture and packaging. Arnett's Variety Pack took out second place. That's good gear. We should get that for the studio. A stack of them. Yeah, but who's going to eat the orange cream? Me.

Okay. Followed by the Kingston biscuit in third place. Kingston. Monte Carlo. Kingston is the best. Which one's the Kingston? Black one? The chocolate in the middle with the gin, like, add-o biscuit. They're like quite small.

Very good. Melt in your mouth. After this record, we're going straight to Coles. My tummy right now is fucking rumbling. But, okay, so I knew you'd question who was surveyed in this. You knew, yeah. I just knew. The Consumer Group surveyed 2,390 Australians on the sweet biscuit brands they've eaten in the last six months.

Okay, was there an age bracket? No. They would have gone to retirement homes. Who wants answers and questions for a biscuit? They'll hold of it. You'll get a variety pack. Now, give me some scotch wiggas. You never do.

disappointed with a scotch finger. They're quite a hearty biscuit. I just don't think it's top spot. I can't. No. Monte Carlo, your favourite. They came in fourth. That with a cup of tea going on there.

What about an ice vovo? They weren't even in the top tense. That's, because that kid at camping that I told you about. Farded on the, no, rubbing on his genitals. Right. Okay. Okay. But yeah, ice vovo.

What is your favorite biscuit? Oh, I would have said out of all of those, the Kingston. Bit of chalky, bit of Anzac biscuit. It's good at all. What about a caramel crown? Oh, that is delicious. What's that? It's like biscuit base, caramel and then covered in chocolate.

It is naughty. That sounds so good. That sounds naughty. We're going to get some after. That was a good actor. Norway. It was Norway. So, digestive's fifth place, assorted cream pack six place.

Chocolate digestive. Tim Tam's seventh place. Shut. No. Tim Tam is an unbeaten biscuit. It's an unbeaten biscuit. That's actually, that's criminal. They did that on purpose.

They did that on purpose. We know who. got surveyed. You can tell by that because it's like, oh, they're too sweet. You know, you're not going out and like shipping off the Scotch finger to international markets, are you? Like the Tim Tam is. The Tim Tam's an international bestseller. Right, yeah. Ginger Nuts, eighth place. That's fair. Biscoff, ninth spot.

Yeah, and the mint slice in 10th. Yeah. Really? Mint slice and go fuck itself. Oh, no. April loves mint slice, but everyone makes fun of her. That's a boomer biscuit. So maybe we're wrong here.

It's a matured palate taste. You'll get there. Hey, have I said congratulations for winning the quiz? The set of origin quiz that you went to... Oh, yes. You won the tickets to Melbourne. I did. We did.

How was that trip? It was great. Oscar had an amazing time. So we got, first of all, he got two days off school. Yeah, it's great. He was absolutely stoked. Did you have to do any forms for that? So April did the forms, but she's found a little loophole in the form thing.

Ah, I love a loophole. Because when with our school, and it might be the same, it might be different for other schools, I'm not sure. When you organise one day off of them, no problems. Yeah. But it's consecutive days. The back-to-back will get you. So she just did single days. Like single single, single.

Yeah. Genius. See? She's smart sometimes. Very smart. Vic, she's smart, isn't she? April is very smart. She's not going to believe that.

April's so smart. But yeah, so she said, guess what? Because I was like, oh, Matt's a bit stressed because of the whole, he had to go to Melbourne for a separate occasion, but had to take the girls out of school. And obviously they're like, tell us why you're taking the kids out of school. Well, shut up, I pay you, all right? I'll take my kids out if I want, and I will. But she said, well, why doesn't you just book the days in,

not consecutively, do them individually? And then you don't have to do any of the fucking... And they haven't clued on. Well, it's all a portal online. Oh, you got the portal? So she's out here beating AI. Look at it go. Fuck, you know what's going to happen?

She's going to be the reason they have like an overhaul. They're like, where are all these kids? No one's here. And then we'll have to delete this episode because she'd be like, she's the blame. Yeah, they'll come for April. I'm like, why is April in prison? because she's in parenting prison

but so two days off Oscar and I flew on the Wednesday because the game was Wednesday night Can I just say we FaceTimed and you were staying at the Crown Oh that's a lovely room We'll get there, we'll get to that We'll get to that part in sec

But we we flew down Qantas And I thought it's just Oscar and I'm pulling out All the stops here Upgraded the seat to where Just with more leg room He didn't notice With the little legs But I noticed

Yeah it's for you And then we both wore blues jerseys the whole day. We went walk through Melbourne. Does anyone like, go to the blues? Yeah. There was so many people down there that were in Blue and Marone. A couple of stops at some jersey shops where everyone was sort of congregate. It was great.

The vibe was really good actually on Flinders Street. So we got to our hotel, the Crown Metropole and get there and they're like, fantastic news. We've upgraded you. Oh, shut the fuck up. I was like, whoa, to a loft. Oh. And that's where I facetined you to rub it in.

And Oscar was like, Oscar's been on a plane before, but it's not just a trip specific for him. Like this was for him. I wanted to go with him to Bond. And he's really into footy and I want to harness that. Yeah. So we did everything together. We went to like arcades together,

all dressed in our blue stuff, the whole bit. The upgraded hotel and really set him off because we overlooked all of Melbourne. I don't think he's ever been that high other than an airplane. So he was like right up against the window. Like, shit. Look how small people are. So hotel room was great, massive. Then we went to the stadium and walked around the outside of the MCG,

like a seven-year-old at the MCG. He was at, like, could not believe. I'm like, it's a bit bigger than Brookie Oval. Is that the first time he's been to the MCG? Yeah. The first time he's been to Melbourne. Yeah. Wow, that little boy is going to remember this.

He was like. Cornems. Oh, yeah. He was like. I've never been to the MCG. I'm going to. Do you know how long it took me to go to the MCG? Yeah, 35 I was.

Last year was my first. It was my first time. How can these kids are how good they've got it? 91,000 people in the stadium. That's a lot. And before the game kicked off, too many? Too many? No, it was great. Because Melbourne's good for it.

They can handle it. They can handle it. Yeah. So we got in there, we walked around the stadium to observe. We bought a big cutout head of his favorite player, Tollucola from Manly. Plays on the wing, for anyone wondering. Plays on the wing. Plays on the tennis, actually, sorry.

But he can play on the wing. You can do it all. Ignore me. I'll hug myself. And then we get inside. I believe he's the goalkeeper. He's one of the ones that catches the ball, isn't he? I bet you he loves the scotch finger.

He's more of an arrowroot guy or ginger snap. Vic, we'll edit that part out. No, we won't. I'm going to protect you. We get in the stadium. We're one of the first in this. We literally were one of the first. He was like, I want to be first in.

First in. That's a lot of many hours early to do you. It was like six o'clock, eight o'clock kickoff. The game starts, he's like, I'm fucking tired. Yeah, he was like, no, he was so pumped. He just wanted to get there, wanted to see it, never been in a stadium. Just soak in the atmosphere. And when we get in there, I said, hey, I've got one other thing that we need to do before we can sit down in our seats.

And that is we're going to go on the field. And obviously, all of this is thanks to the NRL. I was able to take Oscar, and I'd never been on the field of the MCG either. I'd tell you right now, it's like, I can imagine what it's like, Russell Crowe walking out in Gladiator. That's what it felt like. He was blown away. The people, the atmosphere, the noise, the sound were on the field. We got a photo with the state of origin plot.

Shield. He must think you're the coolest dad. I'm fucking hope so. He's the coolest dad. Thank you. Thank you. And then, watch the game. Unfortunately, didn't get the result.

He started to cry. Oh, my God. But everyone around us, like, we just happened to be sitting in quite a... Better get used to it, son. Yeah, that's what I said. This is just the beginning. Oh, shut up. He was like, I fucking hate Uncle Maddie.

I hate him, out of bloody Queensland. A lifelong of heartache. Yeah, he's got ahead of him. I'm just getting him used to it. So we're sitting in the section we have, there was obviously a lot of empaths were really like, oh, is he okay? I'm like, yeah, he's just got to learn to lose, you know? He's only seven.

Yeah, resilience building. Yeah, so we left the game, we got out of there. And like you said, Melbourne just does it better. We were back at our hotel like 1030, which is unbelievable, considering we've got a seven-year-old. Anyway, one final treat is 1030, period. room service. I saw that photo. For her?

For Oscar? What did he get? He got chicken nuggets and chips and some ice cream. Oh my God. And we sat in bed and watched, what do we watch? We just watched whatever movie was on, some kid's movie. And he was pumped. And he fell asleep in his chicken nuggets.

This weekend coming is like so. I know. I know you are setting him up for very high school. Yeah. Are we going to the Crown Loft again? I know. 1030 is like, ding, ding, ding. This week, we're actually going to a manly

Eagle's training and he's going to get to meet that player that he has the big head of. That was the final thing. So that's happening tomorrow. But for people wondering, are you taking him out of school again? Yeah. Only for the morning. But he's, yeah, he's pumped. That's great.

That's good gear. I always thought doing what I do now for a job, I want my, I want to be able to do things like that for my kids. And hopefully it's the first of many and it felt, it feels really good to be able to do that. Yeah. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, I was going to ask how it made you feel. Yeah, I remember if we went to Jiu-Jitsu the couple days after

and the head trainee who owns the Jiu-Jitsu gym, this Brazilian guy, he came up and he must follow me and he was like, it's amazing that you got to do that for your kid. And he'll never forget that. I said, you fucking little, I don't know if I can forget it. Tell you right now. I know. I remember my first game with mum and fucking sat way back

because there no fucking one. He couldn't afford good tickets. But it was still great. She had five kids, Matt. I know. She did her best. I know. It wasn't enough.

Now she lived with you and she was like, is this enough for you? Is this enough? He will remember that. And I'm sure at some point, if he has children, he'll give back to his kids what you gave to him. I would hope so. Yeah, yeah. It's fucking better. Yeah.

Because I remember when I was a kid, dad with work would get a couple of things. Like, I remember he took a surrexas and salai and stuff like that. And I still remember that sort of stuff. So I thought, yeah, you do. Imagine, like him going to school and doing his show and tell or whatever they do. He got to talk about that he got to talk about that he got. Got to go on the field with... Big head.

I know, the big head. Poor kid who goes after Oscar comes in, he's like, I got an ice buck on the weekend. Sit down, Tilly! Let's bring Oscar back up! What else are you doing? Anyway. Hey, Laura's back.

Woo-hoo! Who? Who? She's back. She's back home. The band is back together. He seems happier. He seemed less.

It's been a much easier week. Last week, bloody hell. Mali was up at the cracker don't. It was her birthday. Oh, yeah. And I was like... The day before of it? I was like, yeah, it was.

So I was half asleep. We promised her we'd go to breakfast. And I was there just like, oh. I was like just peeling myself out of the bed. Fatigue. But then we went straight into Mali's birthday party. And I think for parents out there who are organizing a kid's birthday party, you're all going to do it at some point if you have kids, I'm assuming.

It's a level of stress that we just don't need as parents. We put it on ourselves. I was like, yeah, I know what you mean. Like, unless you're an event organizer, so few of us. Thank you, thank you. I remember. It's stressful, right? And there's, you know, Laura and I, we had like, we're back together and we're straight

back into business mode because of like. Oh, be you were. I wish we were. You know, organizing the party and then, you know, sometimes you have arguments, Ash, I'm assuming. Nah, yeah. Where there's no one really at fault. It's just for the sake of an argument. Well, just, you know, no one's, you know, something's gone wrong, but it's like, it's not you,

it's not your partner. And, you know, sometimes you want to blame me the person because you want to blame someone and point the finger. But, you know, Laura and I, the stress of the birthday party, the cupcakes, the cupcakes got us. I'm going to say it, cupcakes, not a good move. Do you know what? They didn't, they didn't love the cupcakes. It's not always about the cupcake, though, Ash.

So the issue was, packing the bag, packing the bag. heading out for Mila's birthday party, packing the bag. This is the big tote bag with all that the nappies in it. And Laura goes, can you put the cup? You didn't actually say, I'm tweaking the story to make it look like. Sometimes that was a fault, but it was Laura. She said, don't forget the cupcakes.

And I was like, cool. So then I put the cupcakes in the tote bag. Okay. Loose? So in a box at the bottom of the tote bag. So then I got back to them organizing the kids. Laura's picked up the bag, not realizing the cupcakes. They were in the bag.

the cupcakes have gone on their side and then in the car Laura's got in the bag and then being like oh fuck you put the cupcakes in the bag and so the cupcakes are now fucked because they've all gone on the side oh you said there's no there's no one at fault but there is oh no what Laura's at fault oh I think I think if she said pack the cupcakes and you've gone and done that she probably needs to check the bag before just yoink it up yoinkinting it That's what I said. I think that's a, it's not like, it's a mistake. And no, actually, someone's made a mistake.

It's not her fault. It's a mistake. She was like, I just thought you would have brought the box on its own. Well, that's a blatant assumption. You're trying to do, you're trying to pack everything together in one place so it's easier for you to that and manage three kids and help, you know, the moving pieces. Having the box on its own arguably is more case sensitive than just putting it into a bad. I think you need to go like, okay, I'm picking up these bags.

I can see the boxes in there. Not just blindly picking a bag. But also because we're just racing out the door. Racing at the door. Time is ticking. I think fault is too aggressive. It's not her fault, but it might be a mistake on her behalf. Laura, I'm so sorry.

No one wants to be wrong. So she's kind of like, to you. And I'm like, me to her, I'm like, this is on you. And then we're like. So good to have you back. Yeah, we're a little bit tense Whilst we've also got the kids in the car And my only friends are with us

And we're like, let's just pretend that we love each other Yeah, how did the cupcakes go? I didn't even, they got a little bit smear One got eaten, one got eaten The kids didn't love the cupcakes I used to love cupcakes What's with kids not liking cupcakes anymore? They want the big thing

They only eat the icing Yeah, they're like, give me the scotch finger Yeah, you might as well have a big tub of icing And put a candle with them They didn't like, the kids didn't like the icing Who made them? Yeah, did you make them? Please, come on.

Why? No, they were bought. Bought cupcakes. Well, it's their fault then. I reckon bought cupcakes aren't as good as they used to be. No, it depends on where you get them. Sometimes the icing is revolting. I'm like a child, though.

I only hear the icing. I don't know if your kids do this for birthdays. It makes me not enjoy birthdays, but when you have two kids who are similar age, Marley turned seven, Lola is five. And it happens with both kids, but when it's not someone's birthday, and the other person gets all the presents,

The other kids are like, well, this fucking sucks. This is the first year that I really gave Macy the pre-worn. And I said, you try and manage the expectations. Yeah, I said, hey, do you know what? Tomorrow is Oscar's birthday, but yours is next. So we might be showering Oscar with gifts and people might be saying, happy birthday, it might be all about Oscar, but then when it comes your day, it'll be all about Macy.

And she sort of were like, there was a couple of moments where she felt a little, I could see it, but she was trying to be really brave about it. And then Oscar was like, hey, do you want to help me open this? Do you want to help me open this? Oh, what a beautiful boy. So, um, that's, that's, that's, you got a good kid on your hands. Thank you. He's going to go back.

It's more April. It's more April. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Sorry. I was low. That's more April. But like, I know what you mean because I could see her fighting it back.

Because she, she was understanding what I said, but wasn't under the feelings weren't understanding it. If that makes sense. Yeah. But Loll, I managed the expectations. And days leading into it, I was like, birthdays are not for you all the time sometimes they're for other people and it's marley's birthday so she will receive the presents we actually had a present for her just so she got

don't look at me like that we gave her something gave her like a little toy it's a new car but even then when marley was on like a third present lola was like oh why don't i just go fuck myself because clearly no one loves me in this fucking family i'm just going to Thank God, thank God you said it. She's like, what, what am I? Should I just move out now? Is this it? I was like, no, it's just because it's Molly's birthday.

And then Marley's friends came along and she was like, oh, well, what's the fucking point of me even being here? I was like, this is hard. I know. Poor little child. I know, you're on the phone to me the other day and you're like, Lola's here. I'm like, hey, Lola. And you're like, we're going to a party. She was like, yeah.

She's going to a party with one of her friends. So it was like, so pumped. But we went to, it's like the greatest show and live show. Was Hugh there? No, no Hugh, no Hugh, but all the songs from the movie were being sung. It was great. It was really good. It was actually, I was like, this is fucking good fun.

Is it still showing? Yeah, I'd like to go, actually. I think it's very expensive. I know that's why I did my kids. Oh, what's that like? There were some acts that were great for the kids, like the trapeze. Oh, yeah. And there's like the big seesory thing where people are flipping.

And the kids are like, wow, this is like big energy. It's not a Cirque to Soleil-esque-type show. a lot more singing. But then there was some acts that for me watching on, I was like, that is so impressive. Like the balancing act, there was this wire, this loose wire and this guy was balancing on the wire. Do you have the? And this guy who is the performer ever comes across this video slash podcast. I just want to let you know that I loved it. Okay. But not all children loved it. Let me play your video. So you were allowed to film a little bit of the show. And this guy on the wire, the balancing wire, he's on a unicycle and he's juggling.

What can't this guy do? It was, I was watching him just being like, to be able to do that, it's just like the hours, the weeks, the months, the years of training he must have gone through to be able to do this. Except my child didn't appreciate it as much as I did. They wouldn't, yeah. Oh my God, is he juggling? Everyone hear her say that?

Did the mat on the tie rope hear her say that? I don't know. I hope not. he's there on this like thin bit of wire which is nice and slack and he's on a unicycle juggling whilst balancing with wire and my kid's like oh is that lower? Yes, Laura.

Hard to please. I was like oh, man, oh. Kind of drown out the boringness for my child. It's pretty impressive. It's amazing and it was just at a point. What does impress her then? She wanted the fire. They said there was going to be a tiger.

There was like a. a theater type It wasn't a live tiger And she was like That's the tiger Yeah Do you have to explain to whether It's actually cruel

To put animals in shows Yeah She knows she liked She liked the flipping There was someone who was breathing fire Well that's yeah And that was like Catch on fire

I hope this guy catches on fire That'll be this is fucking boring I was I don't know if it's because I'm a parent now Some of the acts where it was a little bit dangerous I was like Oh me I see

I do the same thing Sometimes when I watch like I watched like a kid jump off like a higher platform that's not a step. I'm like, I was just happy. Oh, thank God. His knees were okay. I was enjoying the performance,

but also very happy to see him finish the performance without an injury. I was like, and the show is over. No one needs you like, oh, thank heaven. That's a relief. Yeah.

The fire breathing, I was like, someone's clearly going to get burned to you. No facial hair. I wonder why. I will say, I will say, the highlight for me,

Ash, a bit giddy. A bit giddy. Okay. Signing happened. Okay. Oh gosh. So I was then, Molly had a couple of friends.

Laura said, I'm going to get a taxi home. And if you want to take the kids, drop them off. Like they're all, you know, around the neighborhood. So, you know, I was dropping the kids off. And then one of the dads, who was really nice. And I was like, hey, you know, here's your daughter. And there you go. And then we had a quick chat.

And then that chat turned into. Are you two-timing me? I'm bromance. 45 minutes. minutes and and it was I just, you know, it was nice to chat with. Nice to what? No, I just, it was. Nice to what?

Spit it out. On the same page and there's a big. What? But I would, you know, it's not that I'm, you're nothing compared to you. Thank you. That's what I was looking for. But he, he takes his daughter surfing every weekend. Okay.

You know Ash surfs. Are you trying to rage bait me? He doesn't know. No, no. And he was like, what's his name? He's making this up. And he was like, you should bring, because his daughter. daughter, he's been sending me videos of her surfing and she's really good. And I was like,

I'd love to get Marley into surfing, but she's not really into it. And I was like, oh, it's going to be awesome because Marley's good friends with his daughter now and the fact that she can surf, I was showing those videos to Marley being like, do you want to learn how to surf? And she was like, yeah, I'd love to. So I was like, I think he was telling me about these surf trips he does once a year. Is he a Bondi dad? He's a Bondi dad. I fucking hate this conversation. Who is this guy? I want names. I want numbers. He was just a really nice dad. week he'll be in the chair. She's like, this is your way of saying that I'm out of here?

I had one more kid to drop home and she was like, excuse me, Mr. Johnson, I'm getting a little bit tired. I'm hungry. Like, shut up, I'm talking here. I'm bonding. I'm making friends. I need this. I need this.

Don't have a problem. Do we have a name for this? I was just kissing him in the guy, right? How dare you? You're kissing him with the same mouth you talk to me with? Yes. I messaged him just before we started recording. I was like, and now we're three dotting dads.

He'll be coming out. What's his name? I don't want to, you know, he wants to keep, he kept private. You made him up, didn't you? He made his whole thing up. No. It's hard.

It's hard to meet other parents that, like, they're your people and you click with and you're both in a position where you're open to something. Yeah. I wouldn't know how to meet friends as it is. I'm actually trying to get rid of friends. So just so you know. Oh, is that a threat?

Yes. It does help when your kids. at the same age. Same things you're going through. And in my head, I was like, oh, this would be... Am I not enough for you? No, if you live down the road... Yeah.

Oh, could you imagine? I wouldn't want to live in the Moldia suburb, according to later studies, though. Fair. I mean, we'd love you to move to the Norland beaches. I like the distance. We'd love you to move back to the east. I like the distance. Yeah, actually, it'd be too much if we'd live down the road from each other.

I know, you would annoy me. But on that note, I hope you're not annoyed by us. Leave a review. Leave a review, a couple of comments. Let's get to 2000. Find a new friend and send them this podcast. Yeah.

Even if they're made up. Actually, you know what? It makes me realize how many people are like, you know, a podcast? Is that your job? And I'm like, I think so. People, and I'm like, get listening. A lot of people don't listen to podcasts. If anything, it costs us money.

So I don't know if it's our job. It's like expensive hobby. It's a lifestyle. Then what we got? You got. You've got social media. You've got to follow us. Oh, we got.

Instagram, two doting dads, TikTok, Facebook, the group. That's it. And YouTube. These episodes are on YouTube, along with our guest episodes as well. Okay, that's everything. Vic, anything else? The Facebook group is almost at 5,000 members. That's insane.

I have. And it has become such a little haven for parenting advice. I have, I actually had a quiet week on the group. I'm not sure. Even I posted. People, which one did you post? I was looking for a fridge. Yeah.

I was like, oh, God. we really don't have any money. Are you asking for a fridge? We're asking for donations. If you have a fridge, what size do we want? I'll take anything. Any furniture up for the studio. Anything you want to fill the studio?

You want to get rid of. Give it to us. Okay, we'll get out of here. See you. Okay, bye. Maddie's scrolling on his phone and Vicks playing with a camera. We will get done soon enough.

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