Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash - Best Of 2025: ADHD Diagnosis, Dress-ups, New Parents, Peculiar Meditations

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

Before we bring in 2026, we want to remind you of how great 2025 was! Ash is finally diagnosed with severe adult ADHD Matty J's sister loved to dress-up her brother back in the day Listener question – Mum of a one-year-old is fighting with her partner. This is your PSA to take it easy on yourself! Ash and April’s sleep routines include peculiar meditations  2025 Raunchy Ranch Calendar IS OUT NOW!  https://budgysmuggler.com.au/products/two-doting-dads-raunchy-ranch  Buy our book, which is now available in-store! https://www.penguin.com.au/books/two-doting-dads-9781761346552  If you need a shoulder to cry on:  Two Doting Dads Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/639833491568735/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheTwoDotingDads  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/twodotingdads/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@twodotingdads  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome back to two-doting dads. My name is Maddie J. Wow. Is it too much? Yeah. Dial-it back? Don't back. Just a snitch.

Okay. Let me try that one more time. My name is Maddie J. Hi, Matt. Is that more than that? Somewhere in between. Okay. Next episode, I'll do a better job.

Okay. This is a podcast, all about parenting. It is the good. It is the bad. And the relatable. And I'm also Ash. Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so, forgive me.

I'm on holidays, dude. That's okay. You're out of the swing. I get it. Yeah. I get it. But do you know what's right in the swing, this best of episode? Oh, it's a cracker.

Absolutely, Craig. I've said the best to last, I would say. We talk about my diagnosed severe ADHD, which was no surprise to anybody. Severe in bold. We also talk about Matt. How is your ADHD, by the way? That's a going. It's flaring.

Matt and his sister do a little dress-up, a flashback from the past. We've got that photo. It's up in the fridge. I don't know if you saw it when you went to get a glass of water before. I got a copy of it. Don't you worry. It's sexy. I list the question is a mum of a one-year-old fighting with her partner.

Now, PSA to dads out there. Just remember, guys, just remember. Life is not difficult. All you have to do is clean the freaking house. Bit of chore play gets everyone across the line. Oh, it doesn't it? We also talk about, if you do recall Matt was in the jungle. So we had a guest on, which happened to be,

my wife and I reveal April's sleep routine. Are we talking about your sex life again? No, we're talking about. All right. Yes. We can talk about that in private, but for this episode, we're talking about meditation and specifically... Sex.

The nonsense that is chakras. Is there sex in this episode? Is it not? Is it... Because I wasn't here. I didn't listen to it. There's no sex in this... Jess has given me the international sign for sex.

A bit of sexy time? No, we talk about the chakras. Like Kama Sutra. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's get into it. Should you get into it?

Okay. I'm going to listen to it. Okay. I can't wait to find out about you and April. Nice. Well, I'm not actually. And I have a story about that. I'm not fine.

Oh, God. What was it? Hemroids. The hemorrhoids are back. The hemorrhoids are back. were vicious while you were gone. And that was from stress. It was stressed about you.

I was worried about you. Not about me or my terrible lifestyle or my horrible habits. Had nothing to do to that. It's all stress. But we have some answers, Matthew, to why I am like the way that I am. Okay. And it's formal.

So we always joke. We joke a lot on this podcast about the poster boy for a particular... It's a disorder. Disorder. Yeah. It's got enough dees in there to add a disorder. It's a disorder.

I have formerly been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a severe... Let me finish. A severe case of adult ADHD. Wow. Do we clap? Do we clap? Look. I didn't know what to do.

I was like, congratulations. I can't say I'm surprised. I'm not surprised. We all knew. now that I know it's way worse I'm just like I found myself yesterday

It's better than It's better the disorder you don't know Yeah I found myself yesterday We're at the PM's house For that thing you're doing And I was like staring off into the Like into no man's landlight And then I'd be like

Oh fuck Oh shit Yeah there's maybe if someone's like talking He was like Ash Just this echo like Oh shit Yeah It's quite a

long process. I thought Matt's going to the jungle and he pulled my finger out and do something for myself here. Can I ask? Can I ask? What made you want to get tested? Because you're now in your... About 117 episodes of this podcast.

I was like, fuck, that guy needs some help. Because you kind of think, you've come this far, you're in your mid-30s. You come this far you know, surely you're fine. No, it's getting worse. Is it why? It's getting progressively worse. Really?

In what way? Look, I know that I've always had problems focusing. I know that I'm real scattery. I'm real up and down. I move everything. Are you? Don't. I'm happy.

Shut up. And honestly, it was, I knew it was getting worse. And then I started to pay attention to. some things that Oscar would do and how he's five he's he's you know not he just reminded me so much of what of what I

what like my brain and like what the mannerisms and things like he cannot focus on anything what was Oscar doing that that he can't focus on me but he can hyper focus on a small on a one small task yeah and like for me I used to be able to hyper focus on things and then can I just

refresh your memory. And you know this, but for the listeners, Ash, I don't know what it was, but he was like, I'm really into Pokemon cards. And I was like, what do you mean? Oh, yeah, yeah. And you would watch people

live stream opening Pokemon cards. And then you started collecting Pokemon cards. And now I'm in severe debt, yep. And we're just, you were like locked into Pokemon cards. I'm locked in still, bro. I am locked in. Actually, I guess I can't hyper focus on that.

But like, I would find, that I was like, okay, well, I can't, I can't, I'm starting to become as focused as Oscar is. And I'm an adult who like should be able to focus on time. I can't read an email. I can read like a header of an email. I could learn a new skill like Rubik's Cube. Took me one day to learn the Rubik's Cube. You know what I mean?

But I can't, I can't form a new habit. I can't build a new habit. Like just shit like that. And it's progressive. getting worse to the point where, like, I'm unmotivated to do anything. Like, I'm unmotivated to get out of bed. All this sort of stuff that it was like, all right, probably need to do something about it. Do you remember, and tell me if this is the case or not, do you remember it must have been like

six months ago, we had a conversation about potentially getting diagnosed and you said something along the lines of you don't want to get medicated because it's going to change who you are. That's a common concern. they say because it's like we talk about ADHD as you know like a disorder like it's really bad but it's also a superpower for a lot of people like the psychiatrist said to me said you've gotten as far as you have done now with what's going on in your head but you're obviously at a point in your life where you need you need I need to be able to create a routine have some sort of structure I need to be able to sleep properly like this so like oh it takes me like four hours

to go to sleep. I'll just lay there, bro, and my head will just run the whole time. The biggest one, and you'll notice it when, and you probably already notice it when, that I notice when I come on the phone to someone and I'm invested in our conversation and something so minute will get my attention and I'll pull on that piece of string and the complete conversation changes to me just I'm not there anymore and I've got to the point where I'm doing that to family and stuff like that and I'll get off the phone and I'll go fuck I just did that again I'll have to ring like I rang my sister back up yesterday and I was like I'm so sorry you would having an actual important conversation with me

and I didn't digest the back end of the I don't even know what happened yeah because something had caught my eye and I cannot refocus on that conversation and it's tough because obviously your sister's going to be very sympathetic because she understands you and you and who you are. But I guess other people might be like, fuck Ash, like that's rude, man. So many people.

And I feel really bad. So if you are on the phone to me and I do tune out, it's a disorder now, okay? But, yeah, it's, yeah, it was getting to the point where I have, let's just put yourself in my shoes for a moment. no motivation, no routine, no structure, no goals, no interests. Like, I was just like a blob.

Yeah. Pretty much. And it's like, I can't really, really hit me when I surf the wave pool before you, it was before you left or during when you left. I don't know. I did hurt my back on the same session. But I literally paddled out and I was like, I fucking hate this. And it was like, why?

though? Why is that? Like, why is your brain now associating this with something that you hate? Like, is it because maybe that I put too much pressure on myself to be the best that I can be, but I don't have the patience to work to be the best that I could be? So what was the process? Because I remember you saying it was hard. I know you were kind of like tiptoeing around getting tested, but it's not just a simple, make an appointment. Oh yeah, you like, do this test. You have it. What does it look like step by step? So this is the second time I've been down because we spoke about it last year,

but it was the referral I got then was to a particular clinic that feel like they were quite big. So you sort of get, you sort of go into the conveyor belt of process, if you will. And I felt like the information was like the step was like it felt like the test. You know what I mean? It was like, I'm not going to get through. this shit. I can't focus on one thing. How do you want me to focus on 15 different things before I can see a psychiatrist to say, okay, what's going on? Yeah. Which probably deters a lot of people. I got really lucky because of Keish. Kish is such an advocate for it. For people

who don't know, it's Keisha from Life Uncutt. She created Cloud, which is on the Life Uncut Network, which is a podcast, all about ADHD. There you go. And she was able to point me in the right direction, how she went through it, where it wasn't as painful, which, look, the steps are essentially the same, but there was more guidance. Instead of just being like, here go, this is what you need to do because you're one of a million people in this, in the start of this clinic here, where you need to go do this, do that, do that. So what do they make you do? So stuff like, there's a lot of like cognitive testing. Like when you go for a new job in a corporate situation, you go through. Like an online questionnaire. Yeah, but it's long. Again,

And you feel like this is the ADHD test. But it's just to find out what sort of person you are. Like what makes you tick? What doesn't let you tick? Are you depressed? Are you sad? So you do that test? And then what happens after that?

You've got to... They say that you need to provide some like character references. Why wasn't I called up? Why do you think? No, it was like, thankfully, you don't necessarily have to. I think there is you do enough cognitive testing about your character and then they're also asked for like penis size I don't know

I haven't seen it in ages and it's like old school reports and stuff like that because there's no way you would have had that oh no no no definitely not no no no and thankfully through this channel I didn't have to do any of that yeah so like I your reports would have said easily distracted bam yeah

Loses focus, bam. Cannot focus on task? Bam. My advice to anyone who wants to go down the track and looks at it and goes, fuck, it looks like a long thing, just do your due diligence on where you do it. Because this was really quick, opposed to it being really, really long. So this was like a couple of week wait to see a psychiatrist off the back of your testing. It was telehealth, we spent an hour together.

Hang on, wait, wait. So just so I know. So you've done your online test. I'll go from a start. Yeah. GP to with your concerns, as you should do with everything, really. Go and see your GP. Just tell them what's going on and what makes you think.

And they'll ask you some general questions there too because they're trained to do so as well. But then they'll go, okay, do you have a clinic in mind, which thankfully from Keisha, I did. And then you essentially, the referral goes to them. They reach out to you. They essentially give you all the information about what comes next. I'm really dumb here, but is the clinic like an ADHD clinic? Yeah, yeah. It's like an ADHD clinic and like brain neurodiversion.

They specialize in all that sort of stuff. And then, you go there, you do the online. Yeah, they sort of give what's going to happen next and the cost. That's another thing too. How much the cost? Oh, look, it's like it's upwards of three grand to do all this. It's not cheap. It's not cheap.

Wow. For me, I was at a point where I felt like I needed to invest it so that I don't. essentially become, you know, depressed, really, because it's where it was headed. Yeah. It was headed to, like... It's impacting you that much. It was impacting you to the point where there was thoughts of suicide, like, just completely honest, like very minor, but I've felt that before, but I thought this is getting worse.

This is the trigger for that? It was sort of like, for me, that was my, how I felt, because I had no motivation, no, no structure, No, no, no, no. Don't. Don't at all. Like I've sort of suffered with this sort of stuff for long enough that I'm like, okay, well. But what was getting me down was that I couldn't, I would do the thing. You know, here's an example. Like you would go, okay, I want to do this, right? So what you do is you put the steps in place to get to there. I would go, I want to do this. Get to the first step. My brain and go, this is all too hard. And that's it. You know, like, here's a good one. I say, started doing laps at the pool. So what did I do? I bought like a $100 pair of goggles. They're still in the packet and that was terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So after you do your, you went to the clinic, do you do your testing there? And is that off the back of that, do they say you, like you have it? Yeah. So you do the testing and then you have your consultation with a psychiatrist.

And there's a lot, they dive into a lot like childhood. family life, both your immediate family and then obviously my wife and kids and, you know, school and hobbies and habits like alcohol, drug, they do into everything, you know, family loss. Look, if you're not at a position where you want to talk about all that stuff,

then maybe it's not worth going down that. Pretty confronting, right? It's really confronting. It's like exhausting at the end of it. You're like, fuck, like, like, it's a proper therapy session. which thankfully I've got some experience in, so I wasn't, but I can imagine if that's your first.

Oh, yeah. You'd be like, holy shit. Like, I had to take it in the car because it's just like I needed zero distractions. I just needed to, I was like, if I'm going to spend all this money and do it to improve my life,

I need to just lock myself away and get it done. And then based off that, in the conversation he said, look, in my professional opinion, you do have adult ADHD, along with, there's a couple other things that's in the, they give you a diagnosis, which is the diagnosis goes back to my GP for next steps, which is next steps is blood work, ECG. And for me, blood work and ECG is really important because I've got heart disease. For medication. For medication. Yeah, because he openly says, hey, we can treat this with medication, whatever that's going to look like. I don't know yet.

or we can, you can look at, you know, unpacking. It's like a fast way or a slow way. Like, that's the way they put it. And I was like, look, I'm open to being medicated, but that's what I was worried about, losing my spark, right? I was losing like, I didn't want to lose my personality and we'll lose how my brain works in certain ways. And he was like, no, no, no, well.

Yeah, but at the same time, you talk about your spark. It's like, I don't, I look at, about that moment what you say you're thinking about self-harm and you're like well that's not it's not helping you it's not sort of spark that you think it is yeah yeah there's always like the negative side to my my brain the personality that I have but he says to me no no no he's like look what what we can do is we can look to just make it easier for you to focus on tasks and and and achieve smaller goals than just being like here's something kind of completely dull who you are as a person for the rest of your life

and that's a big stigma around medication. When I'm medicated already now and I have been for years. But it was like before that, I was like, I didn't want to be medicated because I didn't want to be seen as that person who's medicated, right? Yeah, it's like. He's had like a lobotomy. Yeah, essentially.

And like, but then once I went down the process the first time with, you know, with that, it's like it's not that bad. Do they, when you, they say severe. Is there like a scale? Is it like between... I guess it's just his medical opinion, right? He's like, okay, well, I've heard you. I've heard what you like, what your brain's like.

And they're very good at like drawing stuff out of you that they are trained to do, right? If they're good. But it's kind of, I guess on the one hand, it's kind of daunting to know like, okay, I've actually got this thing now. But then at the same time, it must be nice in a sense to know like, hey, it's, you know, I've been living with this thing. has been hindering me for so long. It's not you.

It's like, you know, it makes sense. Yeah, it's like now that I'm aware of it and there are certain things that, the certain behaviours that I do like, like my doom scrolling is on a fucking other level.

It's because it's ADHD paralysis. I'm just there searching for dopamine. And that's the easiest way for me to get it without, you know, rack it up or something. You know what I mean? Like in that, I'm just like consistently searching and it's like

it's a known thing that you go into a paralysis where you're like I'm just going to sit here all day in a vortex and I have done that you know the first day both kids went back to school I think you were away and I think we had nothing on or whatever I literally sat there till the kids got home you got nothing achieved that day

and it was like I don't have the motivation nor do I have the drive the strength to move off this couch and other than just sit there and doomscroll. Yeah. Maybe jerk off. Yeah, so that's where we're at. Okay, so you haven't had any medication,

got to do blood test, ECGs. Then you go and do another psych appointment to talk about medications, the pros, the con, all that sort of stuff, like another hour. And then they see you again, just make any adjustments. And then it's up to you how often you want to see them, like check in. So like I think Keish was saying that,

that she did the first initial appointments and they adjusted the medication and everything seems to be working fine. But if her brain chemistry changes or something changes, like maybe she falls pregnant and hormones change things that maybe she might need to go to send them again.

Yeah, but she's gone through the harder process. Wow. Well, dude, I'm proud of you. Thank you. I'm very proud of you. That's the most serious conversation I've had in a very long time. Yeah.

And I think it would have been so easy to kick this bucket down the road a little bit longer, a little bit longer, knowing how hard the process is, I think, well done. Thank you. I feel better about it already. I mean,

it's like you said, there's no surprises. Like it was, you know, I can have a large red bull and go straight to sleep. Like, you know, you know, it's just,

yeah, it just got to the point where it was like, and then I was doing, I was doing this thing where I was like, wish I'd known this before I started a podcast with you. Sorry, it's only been two years. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

But it was getting to the point where I was like, you know, I'm not, like, I definitely have a problem with alcohol. Like, that's no fucking secret. But it was getting to the point where I was like I was just drinking because I was just depressed about it. And it was like, if I'm going to be unmotivated to do things, I might as well do the things that's like, the easy things that give me some sort of chemical in my brain to make me feel a bit better. Anyway, here we are. I am not having any sisters, like yearn for a sister most of my childhood. I desperately wanted a sister. And so the only way to get one is to dress up my presents into my sisters.

I'm very excited about this. And because I punched her in the nose, I became a willing participant because I felt bad. Yes. Why did you dress me up? I don't really know. I feel like you came to me. I was like, hey, it's where I'm bored. The plot second.

What clothes could I wear? Also, he was like the, he was always the funny one. So he would have, like, wanted attention. I don't remember how, yeah, used to, you had a wig. Put me in the wig. Should I, should we? You got the photo here. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I brought it. Let's go. Drum roll. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm pretty sure we would also like to do, like, pop dance and like, do. Oh, cute. Hang on a second.

Have you got any pop dance? dance videos? No, that was before. That was like before the time. Oh, my grandma would have one somewhere like a black. Yeah. There's the photo that I'm thinking. Let's not. We don't have to bring it out. Okay. Oh my God.

What? You've got breasts. Also, he's loving it. You can just, you can see. He's loving it. I was forced into that against my will. Look at the pose. The hand. The wrist. I think it was to look. Oh, my goodness. The sparkly hair.

I look good. Oh, my God. What are I doing? And so for like one evening, I'd get a sister. Yeah, you did. I was called Matricia. Is that lipstick? Is it?

Look how red your lips are. Probably. Any foundation? Any rouge? We probably rated mum's makeup. Wow. Very good. Have you got a sports bra on under that?

Do I? The only thing I would say is, like, he wasn't the only brother. I dressed most. He dressed them all up. Yeah, I did dress most of them up. Yeah, you wanted to be like the spice girls. David did ask most of the time to be dressed up. Wow.

He did. Well, aspect. You look great. You do look good. Thank you. Yeah. You look like, you look like someone who always tries to get out of P.E. You know, like, just, like, just like, all the beer boxes in the back.

Sheepers. Good boobes. Good, great set of cans. Can I keep this? God knows what you'll do with it. Have you, Matt, stress up as a woman, plenty of times in recent times. It's been a while. I'm due for one.

You are. I reckon you need to recreate this. That's a great, great wig. Thank you so much. Listen to questions. Listen to questions. Do you want to start this? You want to start.

You start. You start. You start. Me start? Okay. Matt, this one's from Anonymous. Yeah. Strange names this week.

Mum of a one-year-old here. Huge fight with my part. with my partner last night, he says we spend no time together. Our relationship is non-existent and we no longer have fun. He's not wrong in some ways. We've both been focusing on getting back

to ourselves after becoming parents. Or so I thought. Do you have any rituals for spending time with your part? Rituals. Sex. I'm a child. I'm just a child.

First and foremost. To go on. I think it is very natural as parents with any number of children that you have periods where you feel a bit disconnected from your partner. Like a roommate, like a roommate phase. Fair on. Do we know how old the kids are? No, that's...

One year old? Did she say one year old? Yes. Oh, fuck. Like, dude, can you remember how hard it was with a one year old? Yeah. Do you know what? I forgot I had to do.

disinfect the teats of bottles. Do you remember that shit? I didn't do, no. Oh, God. Oh, not by hand. You put in one of those things and chucked in the microwave? You put in plastic in the microwave? No, they go in like a special, they go in a special...

Parents will back me up, I swear to God. Google it. It's like a container. You put a little bit of water and it sterilized. You chuck it in the microwave and it heats up and it sterilized it like boiling water. Microplastics? Does that mean anything to you? Obviously not, bro.

My kids are just full of microplastics. They're going to get their blood filled in one day. Sorry, I shouldn't attack you. I've been attacking you this episode. Yeah, I appreciate it. Keeps me on my toes. Yeah, I've acknowledged it. So first and foremost, continue.

One year old, it's like that is, you're in the eye of the storm. That is a tricky position to be in. I think it's there coming out of the trickiest position. You know what I mean? Because that's what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. Like that age, yes. Don't get me wrong.

Still tricky. And for some, it's trickier. But that whole leading up to one, no wonder you're not fucking hanging out with each other. You probably hate each other on the surface. Yes. Dude, everyone with a one-year-old, every couple hates each other at that period of life.

And if they don't, they're fucking lying. No one is thriving. No one. You may thrive for the blink of an eye, but then the majority of the time, you're just trying to stay alive. You just get your head above water. That's the reality.

I think so anyone who was like, oh, wow, I don't really have like, my relationship is not cranking with my one year old. I'm like, that shouldn't. It shouldn't be cranking. If it's cranking, that kid's been neglected. It's hungry. Yeah. All right.

Keep the child alive. I think also, and we say we're not going to give it any advice, but we're both married. We both have two kids. I think we're both in a position where we give a little bit of advice that has worked potentially for us. I'm ready for it. Give yourselves a fucking break. Yeah.

Actually, wait, no, sorry. Continue. Shut, you man. Don't go so hard on yourselves and don't put too much pressure. There's so much time for you to get that back. Is that, am I wrong? Yes. Go on.

Okay. Put more pressure on yourself. Is that what you're saying? Okay, ready? Yeah. Give the mum a break. Okay. Oh, yes.

Okay, because I, I was shit with a one-year-old. was still in that mindset of like, oh, mum's got it. You know, like, because newborns up until three, four months, mum and newborn, they're attached to the hip slash boob. And, and one year old... Did you say boob? Carry on. One year old is when dads, like, can really start taking on a lot more.

Very true. And so I think, I think it's hard to think about being sexy and romantic and wanting to have all that type of business going on. when, you know, the house is a mess and you're trying to deal with a little child. So my best advice is for any dads out there who think, oh, my relationship's not being prioritised.

Just like clean that house, dude. Take a day off work. Cool and sick to work. And just like clean the house, do the washing. Vacuum and mop the floor. A little bit of chore play is going to go a long way. Please refer to the 2020 calendar that we did. Good plug.

Great plug. Well done. Very much out of that. But that's my advice. I think that's pretty solid, but I would just attack onto the top of that that if you are mum, don't try and force that advice onto them

because it could, you know what I mean? Like, if you're like, why don't you clean the house anymore, it might make it worse. Don't you think? No, fucking tell them to clean the house. Are you going with, you're going with full telling a dude?

I think, what I like what you said was then if your dad had, right? Yeah. Just go and do it. Yes, yes, yes. I like that. Be proactive. Be proactive.

There he is. That's what I wanted to hear. Because it's like for me personally, if I would prefer to be proactive and do those sort of things, then to be told, go and do it. You know what I mean? No one enjoys a gift they asked for. Not that doing the housework is a gift. You're just full of good words right now.

You're welcome. I'm not going to stop it. It was the apple juice. The apple juice. It was the apple juice. It's out of date. It's not. Very sour.

Okay, question for you. Again, don't put too much pressure on the relationship, right? Yes. Because no one is. No. I know we joke, we laugh. But everyone fucking hates each other at that stage. Life with a two-year-old is a lot better than life for the one-year-old.

Yeah, for sure. They're giving back way more. Give me a toddler any day of the week. Newborns, ugh. It's funny, like, with white noise, we're a white noise house. And some people, Matt's never had white noise in their house or anything like, ever. Ever? No.

And it's like, why? I said to him why and he was like, we just never, it's the best. Like the lightning, the storms. Yeah, they haven't noticed it. They haven't noticed it. Well, in saying that, we've had the fan on and that's probably noisier than the white noise. But I find that like I'm so accustomed and used to it now. It's just like it's part of our house.

I feel like when we lose it, I'll be sad. Yeah. Yeah. When they say they don't want it anymore. Yeah, it's kind of like, well, hang on, we've listened to the same song, same noise, every night for five and a half years so far. It'll be the end of an era. Very good. I think that's a hack.

Anything that gets a kid to sleep, I'm sweet with. It's almost as good as our two meditations competing against each other each night. Oh, yeah. So, April and I, along with the white noise that's in our house, April and I both have sleep music. I think we just adopted it from having the wide noise on because we had, we lived in units for so long with Oscar mainly that the whole house just was like, you walk into a house, it's like all the time. It's just, it's like an AM radio station.

And then we were like, oh, you know, do some sleep music. I think for a while there we had one where we just shared it. And then you've gone more into the meditation side. Like chakras. Oh, God. It's, and mine's more just like piano sleep music. But the thing is, your meditation lasts for an hour. It's three hours.

What? Yeah. But the talking only lasts for an hour. Talking probably an hour. But you're out cold in like two minutes. I know. It's great. You're like it's sleeping next to a dead body.

And you are out. And so I've got to spend the next. hour listening to this woman carry on about different energy chakras. But also I find with those, those people, also I find with people who are really into that and the chakras. Like me. They really in-depthly describe where your chakra is like no one's going to, if they don't, no one's going to believe them.

So here's an example. They're like, so she's like, and your third chakra is, is in your stomach, just below the breast bone, in between both pectoral muscles, slightly underneath the cartilage of the human sternum. You listen to my meditation, haven't you? And it's like, what do you just say? It's in your chest.

Do you think that someone's going to be like, okay, if it's in your chest, where is it? I'm just going to disagree with you because I quite like it. It's like they're like, okay. And also, how many chakras is one person have? I've listened to it so many time that they're like and I don't go to sleep that easy

it takes me forever and I'm listening to You're welcome that you get mine as well And at the top of your head is your 12th chakra She's just rattling off the human anatomy essentially It's great, it's all mindfulness What, you're all fast asleep Your story is snoring And I'm listening to someone being like

And your sixth chakra Is at the best. of your butthole and it slightly edges up towards the shaft of your penis and I'm like fucking hell how many chakra energy

and they're all energy chakras and then they finish with and if you look up there is your final chakra hovering above you like a guiding light definitely doesn't say that

it does I reckon it doesn't say that it must be specific to mothers oh really? Yeah. I don't know. I've never gotten that far. You literally have never gotten that far.

It gets to a point where it's like street noise, traffic noise. Nothing will wake you except for the sound of your newborn child. So, I'm like, shut up. Anyway, your newborn child has 55 chakras. Let's begin. Let's begin. Or it's like, now start at your head and work your way down. Is just how you saying it?

Maybe I should. Maybe you should be the chakra talker. Maybe. This doesn't work out. If this doesn't work out, then it sounds good to me. If you've enjoyed this episode, please, please do the right thing. For the love of God. Just give us a review if you don't mind.

Or subscribe, share it with a friend. Please, yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, send it to a friend. If you think that this episode is somewhat. funny then you send it to as many people as you can't it doesn't matter if you know them or not just keep you're begging you's getting it out of it's getting it much if you don't want to do that don't but join us on instagram facebook tick to ticot or youtube to doty dads they're review and uh we are still on holidays back back next week back next week see you then

what a great trip don't we enjoy ourselves i'm trying to just get off this fucking boat all right bye bye bye bye bye bye bye Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and the connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders, past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples today. This episode was recorded on Gatigle Land.