Two Hot Takes - 106: Pull Yourself Together..

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Jordan!! This episode features stories that make you want to go Edna Mode on the people involved and just tell them to pull themselves together! ...Ever had to do this to someone in your life?! Can't wait to hear your thoughts on these ones. Domestic Violence hotline: https://www.thehotline.org/get-help/ Justin's New Show!!! https://anchor.fm/crackingthecopyright https://www.youtube.com/@crackingthecopyright Patreon for bonus content:  https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes Our SubReddit to Submit YOUR Stories!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Partners: Hello Fresh: HelloFresh.com/tht60 Promo code: tht60 Lomi: Turn your food waste into dirt with the press of a button with Lomi. Use the code THT to save $50 at lomi.com/THT PDS Debt: PDSDEBT.com/THT

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Starting point is 00:00:38 Also, audio might sound a little different this week. I recorded this episode at my friend Jordan's house in Chicago. So if it's a little echoey, I'm sorry. But it was so much fun having Jordan on and I'm so excited to introduce you guys to one of my best friends. Enjoy the show. You can't see my feet, can you? On the floor, you can't, for sure. No free feet pics.
Starting point is 00:01:05 No, I have socks on, but I don't like socks. Huh? They just, like, gross me out. Hmm. This is the second time you've been on the podcast. But first time meeting everyone. Everyone's like, who is this? If you're not on Patreon, you haven't seen the episode I recorded with my friend Jordan.
Starting point is 00:01:27 So everyone, this is Jordan. Hi. Hi, everyone. We, uh, we did a Patreon. God, when was that? Probably July we did that episode? Yeah, in the summer. Yeah. And like, I had a flight. We were like racing to get it done.
Starting point is 00:01:42 We like ripped shots. Probably got a little too drunk. Oh my God, I, it was the most hungover I was all weekend. So it was a great day, great day to finally, um, shoot it with. Yeah. Oh my God. But we got it done, got through. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I think this is going to be really good. I'm continuing on a theme of, um, I kind of explained it to you where it was like, pull yourself together, man. Like Edna mode, but it's not just dudes. There's some stories with girls kind of losing their minds where they need to pull their shit together. And that's just kind of the vibe. It's just people that are being so goofy and they just need to get it together. Just get it together people. I'm just going to keep that little picture in my mind.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Edna mode smacking him. Yeah. I know insert, insert GIF here on YouTube. But yeah, I just like, I don't know why I saw like, uh, a video of it or something. I was like, Oh, that's such a good theme. I need to do it. So it's going to be good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Give the people, should we give them a little intro? I guess if they haven't seen Patreon, they're going to be like, how do you two know each other? What's the story? Okay. So give them, give them the lowdown. How'd we meet? What was our first date? How did we meet?
Starting point is 00:02:52 So, okay, we're from the same hometown. I knew of Morgan. I went to Morgan's birthday party in high school, but she didn't know me. Um, she's through a huge graduation party or graduation party. I think that's like how I kind of like knew you. Yeah. That was crazy. Morgan through great parties.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Um, yeah, she didn't even know I was there. And then, uh, in college, then I went to U of M where Morgan was. Um, she messaged me on Facebook. We went on our first date. Lauren pasta bar, um, which is gone. It's gone now. It is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 What is it? I have no idea. No idea. But yeah, I don't think I went ever again. No, it was the first time. That's the first and only time. But we got introduced from Matt Lord, like one of my best high school friends. And we met at like state hockey, like the Minnesota state hockey the first time.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And then we had our first date. That was probably one of my first times drinking. So I probably don't remember. I don't remember. I don't know if I remember meeting you there. It was in the lobby of your hotel and I was just like, oh my God, she's so cool. Like, I just like remember Matt being like, we're going to go say hi to Jordan. And I was like, who's Jordan?
Starting point is 00:04:11 And then I went over there with him and like you were, we were sitting on these like, this was the bougiest hotel. And so the fact like Jordan was staying there. It was like, it was in the crown. It was the St. Paul. Like your dad had a room or something. Yeah. And I was just like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I was like, I just thought you were so cool. So then when Matt told me you were transferring to the U, I was like, yep, set it up. Let's go. Yeah. I was so excited. The rest is history. The rest is history. I should insert some of our college pictures on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Just not the blonde ones. That's exactly what I was thinking. In our first pictures, we like started going to go for hockey games together. And that was, it was love after that. But okay. No blonde. But I think it was my Mahoney, my Mahoney, my Mahoney. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yeah. Me and Jordan shared the same fake ID. Like it wasn't us, but it was a real Minnesota ID girl. So yeah. I remember the bouncer one time being like, Hey, welcome back for the third time tonight, Molly. I'm like, mm-hmm. I think there was one night we were at Blarney's, which is a bar in Dinky Town.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And there was one night where every Molly Mahoney was in the house. Her, me and you. I think that, yeah. I think there was like three or four. Molly was very nice with her ID. Yeah. I could see it. Never met her, but.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Really? Oh my God. She was great. Thank you, Molly. Molly, you made college so fun for us. Okay. Let's dive in. Okay, so you have had your fair share of like bridesmaids positions.
Starting point is 00:06:06 You were a bridesmaid in our friend Kate's wedding that we were both a part of. And then like the following weekend, you had your sister's wedding where you were like made of honor bridesmaid. You have a lot of sisters. I don't remember back, back to back weddings. Yeah. My first two weddings ever back to back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:21 So you have some familiarity with being a bridesmaid bridesmaid bridesmaid bridesmaid. Bridesmaid. Yeah. That sounds weird. I know I said it out loud. I'm like, that's not right. Bridesmaid and then made of honor for my sister. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:35 So you know, you know the drill. Yeah. Okay. So this first one was posted about a month ago. It is titled, am I the asshole for kicking out one of my bridesmaids for showing up in the wrong dress? My 23 female wedding was back on Saturday, December 31st, and I'm still getting backlash from this.
Starting point is 00:06:54 So I want to know if it was an asshole move in the country I live. It's currently winter and we get a fair amount of snow. So my wedding was winter themed. The color theme was forest green and gold. My dress was obviously white and I chose the color of my bridesmaid's dresses to be a forest green as well. My maid of honor's dress was black and everyone was to wear gold accessories. I have this friend will call her cat that I asked to be one of my bridesmaids.
Starting point is 00:07:24 When we went dress shopping and I told them the color theme I was going for cat immediately expressed that she thought forest green was a bad choice. She said that she thinks it's not a flattering color and thought I should choose something different and more girly. I said no because my wedding was winter themed and I thought the color would go perfect with the theme. She suggested a pink, blue, even a red. I said no, but thanks for your opinion.
Starting point is 00:07:53 She found out my maid of honor's dress was black and asked if she could wear black too. I said no, only my maid of honor was wearing black. I paid for all of the dresses. Wow, very generous. Fast forward to wedding day. Everyone's getting their hair and makeup done and cat shows up 30 minutes late holding a bag that looked like it had a dress inside.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I asked her what this was for. She told me it was for later on at the reception if she got uncomfortable and wanted to change after pictures. I was like, okay, cool. So fast forward. We're all dressed and walking down the stairs because the ceremony is beginning in 30 minutes and we're going to take some pictures before cat is the last person to come down and she's wearing a black dress.
Starting point is 00:08:41 At the time I was preoccupied taking pictures with my parents, but my maid of honor came over to me and made me aware of the situation. I confronted cat and asked her what was going on. She said she hates her bridesmaids dress as the color is ugly and makes her look gross. So she's wearing black. I told her, please go back and change. She refused and started walking away from me.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I said, I'm going to ask her one more time. And if she doesn't oblige, I'm calling security and kicking her out. She began yelling at me to fuck off. So I called security and asked them to please escort her out. She started making a big scene yelling how I'm such a bitch that I can't force her to wear anything and that I'm a horrible, inconsiderate friend. The wedding went on and it was truly amazing. Ever since the wedding, cat has been blowing up my phone with text saying
Starting point is 00:09:33 some really nasty things and asking for the money back she spent on the black dress since it was a waste and she didn't get to wear it. I had to block her number. Some of my other bridesmaids have been giving me shit saying that I was a little harsh kicking her out and embarrassing her like that and that maybe I should give her the money back. Am I the asshole for kicking her out? No.
Starting point is 00:09:57 She paid for the first dresses and then wants to get paid back for an additional dress. Yeah. For her black dress that she didn't need to buy. No, she decided to go out and do this. No, I. Oh my God. Like it's the brides day.
Starting point is 00:10:13 It's her day. Like who cares what your dress is? You can choose your own dress for your wedding. You can like. Oh my God. The sky right now. Okay. I noticed it behind your head, but it's like barely there.
Starting point is 00:10:26 We're so distracted up here. Jordan's view is overlooking. I've never seen it this. I've never seen it this pink. It's insane. I hope it shows on YouTube. I'll take a picture pretty in case it doesn't. Where's it pink at night?
Starting point is 00:10:38 Sailors delight something. What's the saying? I'm not sure. Isn't it something? I'm not sure. Pink in the morning. Sailors take warning something. Oh God.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Probably. That sounds right. That sounds right. I don't know what that means, but. Highly distracted by this view. It's gorgeous. Jordan lives in this like crazy little park in Chicago. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I'm spoiled. I'm spoiled with this view. But okay. Sorry. I was like, oh my God. No, I think she's trying to make it about her and it's her friend's day. Like it's one day. And the fact that she bought another dress and then wants her to pay for it is like.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Like comical. Like. Yeah. And her friend bought that paid for the dresses too, which like. I mean, honestly, and. I've never like that's a really generous thing for the bride to do. Yeah. Like that is so nice.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I have to say too, like even just picking out the dress on it. Honestly, that just as a bridesmaid, like it makes it life so much easier. Just here's here's what you're wearing. Put it on. Fine. Yeah. For my sister was like, pick out whatever you want. Oh, it took me a year and a half to find a dress.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Oh my God. Yeah. Our friend Kate's wedding was nice cause she just said like, this is the fabric and color, but you can get any style. I actually loved that. Yeah. That was like this color, this fabric. There were still like hundreds to choose from hundreds.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Hundreds. Honestly, it was like, yeah. I spent days, days and days and days looking for dresses. It's a lot of work. And so I agree. I think this is just crazy. It's one day, one evening. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:14 How many pictures do you post in that bridesmaids dress? Anyways, none. If you don't like the dress and how it looks on you, you don't have to post any pictures. Yeah. The bride might post a couple from her day, but like you don't have to post. You don't have to like let everyone see it in you. And honestly, I think the bride was so nice to even say, yeah, later on in the
Starting point is 00:12:33 after the ceremony, if you're uncomfortable, you can put another dress on. Right. Like that is even nice. Yeah. Like get your pictures, get your ceremony, everything. And then after like, yeah, who cares afterwards? Like, but yeah, I kind of like wearing the bridesmaids dress. It just makes you why you liked it.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah. Cause like, it just like, you feel a part of this club where you're just like everyone at the wedding knows like, I'm a bridesmaid. You just feel a part of this like special club. Yeah. And it just like, you feel like you're in a position of power almost like, yeah, I'm a bridesmaid. I can go behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I get to go to the special room. I got the good snacks. You get to wear like a full length dress. Yeah. Well, a lot of time. I'm like, yeah, I'm dying to, I'm like dying to wear my like old like, you know, like prom dresses and stuff. Once you get older, when can you wear like a dress like that?
Starting point is 00:13:24 You can't. Or if there's fans, I need to get invited to the fancy parties. I don't, I don't know. I know. We both do. Military balls. They wear long dresses, I guess. I think we're too old for that though.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Are we? Are we getting too old? Probably. I have no idea. That's the only time I ever see like long dresses other than maybe not, but what do you think of the other friends siding with Kat? I think they're just trying. I, she seems like a difficult friend and I think they're not trying to get on
Starting point is 00:13:54 her bad side either. I think it's the brides day. Yeah. I mean, my hair at one of the weddings was interesting. It was fine. It was, it just wasn't what you would have. And I actually had both of them. I didn't love it, but it wasn't my day.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Like it's the brides day. So, no, it's like, yeah, it's the bride and groom. Like, yeah, I literally, I remember my brother's wedding. I was kind of a pain in the ass because like with really big boobs, it's like just something you're conscious of with bridesmaid's dresses and like the sweetheart top like always falls down and I wanted to be able to dance. And so my brother's wife like picked that for her dress and I was just like, I think it was, it was back in 2015.
Starting point is 00:14:38 So I was like still in college, like insecure, whatever. And so I remember being like, is there any way I can do a dress with like straps? And like, I kind of had to like, just be like, I just want to be comfortable. Like, well, and I even felt bad asking for that. Like she didn't, I don't think she even cared. She had like two different styles picked up for like her bridesmaid's dresses, but like it just had to be purple. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And so it was like really easy to just like switch. But I remember just being like, I don't even want to ask. Like, I don't want to make a big deal. Like I don't want to like create more drama for her. So, but that's different. I think if this was literally just a color issue, then like, who cares about the color? I get the fit though, cause like everyone's body's different and usually
Starting point is 00:15:23 your bridal party, there's a range of sizes and shapes. And like, yeah, if you choose one style, like some people might look great on some people like will feel so uncomfortable. Yeah. Which I liked. Yeah. I liked the like what Kate did would just like give people their choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Pick a color. And then, so I don't know how this was, but like to like not want to wear the color, like it's dark green or black. It's not even that different. No, it's literally basically like just turn dark green down and it turns to black. Like what? Yeah. And then also if the maid of honor is wearing black and then you're kind of
Starting point is 00:16:00 stealing her, like spotlight, which cause I feel like the maid of honor should like have something a little different, like just, so then yeah, by taking, by doing black, the same that she was doing. Yeah. She was kind of stealing. I mean, it's better than like coming down with white or something. But oh my God, but the fact that I think the first time right away, well, and it didn't have to go like that for her either.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Like she tried it. Hey, yeah, not only did you try to change the color at the first appointment when everyone was trying on dresses and your friend was like, no, it's like thanks for the opinion though. Yeah. But then she tried to sneak down the stairs and like still have the black dress on. It's like, okay, at that point when your friend asked you, Hey, not okay.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Yeah. Please go back upstairs and change. And you don't. Then that's where like you're the biggest. You're already an asshole in my book. But like you just made this situation a million times worse. You made it so dramatic and then screaming at her on her wedding day, calling her an inconsiderate bitch or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Sorry. Um, she started making a big scene yelling how I'm such a bitch that I can't force her to wear anything and that I'm a horrible, inconsiderate friend. You don't have to be a bridesmaid. You can say no. Yeah. If you, it's an honor to be a bridesmaid like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:25 You can say no. It's okay to say no, especially if you can't afford it. Like it's always okay to say no. Yeah. But like to agree to something and then try to sabotage it. Yeah. Just because you don't like the color anyone. No.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Look at 27 dresses. Like the things that she had to wear. Oh my God. I love that movie. James Marsden. So like just the, the worst, the worst outfits. She had like a cowgirl theme that she had to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Just like, and there's, there's themes like that. People love theme weddings. Some people love theme weddings. Oh, some, one of my family members or like ex-husband, something got remarried and had it, they live in Montana and had a Sasquatch themed wedding. Stop. Sasquatch.
Starting point is 00:18:14 What did they wear? I think they just wore like cowboy boots and cowboy hat, but they had a dress up, someone dressed in the Sasquatch suit. Stop. That in the wedding, their cake had a big Sasquatch. Why did they like it so much? Of all themes that you could pick for your wedding Sasquatch, like big foot, like I kind of want to go.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I mean, I've never been to Montana. Like, no, but now I want to go to a Sasquatch wedding of all themes. Oh my God. That's actually so crazy. I saw, we had one Reddit story a while ago where someone wanted to have a Titanic themed wedding. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Like the good part of Titanic or like, I don't know if there is a good part. I think at the beginning of the movie, it's like fancy. It's like more like great Gatsby. But you could just call that something, but like just do that timeframe and why Titanic? Yeah. Titanic was 1912.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Oh, yeah. So almost the roaring twenties, but like, oh, I thought it was later than that. Glitz and glamour. I did too. I don't know what I thought. I know I saw something on TV. I think the other day about the Titanic, you know, like the,
Starting point is 00:19:25 they could both fit on the raft. I thought they could. I've said that on the podcast, but like scientists or I don't know, the misbusters, some people like actually tested it. And if they both would have gone on there, they could have fit, but they would have sank it. So they both would have died. I would have like been like, okay, you get your chest up and
Starting point is 00:19:43 I'll get my chest up and then we'll kick in the water. Yeah. But then they would have got like hypothermia or something and died. There's a guy, I forgot. I just like listened to this story about this dude and he was a worker on the Titanic ended up saving a bunch of other people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And he was the very last person off the ship as it sank into the water, very last person off and a lifeboat saw him, but they didn't have enough room. So they laughed and he treaded water for like an insane amount of time and still survived. Oh my God. I don't think I could do that for six minutes and like freezing cold water, like in the middle of the ocean.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Oh my God. I think the ocean is like the scariest thing. I hate the ocean. I love it. I love water, but it's terrifying. Yeah. Like what's down there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:33 When you can't see underneath. Oh my gosh. I think it's this guy named Joflin. Charles Joflin. No, he died in 1956, but he was a chef and then like got a bunch of people off, like saved all these people. And then like, you know, in the movie how someone rides down the back of it, like they hold on to the metal railing as it
Starting point is 00:20:56 goes down. Yeah. That's what he did. He just, I guess, like stepped off of it into the water is how he described it. That's insane. I know. So nuts.
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Starting point is 00:22:37 If you're Super Bowl watchers, did you hear about the 2B commercial? Well, I watched the Super Bowl. Did it get you too? Yeah. It got our whole group. We were all looking for the remote. We're like, wait, what happened? I thought it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:22:52 It was a great commercial. Hilarious, like genius. Like, but it has a really dark side. A really dark side. People fight. A lot of domestic abuse. A lot of servers. A lot of servers got drinks thrown on them.
Starting point is 00:23:08 A lot of people like had their partners flip out and this is something that I didn't really even think about that. Like, yeah, especially like in public too. Like if you're watching it out somewhat like at a bar or something. Yeah. A lot of servers are bartenders got like bitched at, screamed at, drinks thrown on them. And I just like, I'm like, why are people so insane about sports?
Starting point is 00:23:33 Like soccer, football. Yeah. There's like so much violence around soccer and football games like domestic violence and stuff like that. It's insane. Okay. Now that makes me like, not like the commercial. Like, I didn't even realize, but in the moment I was like, that was genius.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah. It was so good. It caught everyone's attention. Like, wait, what, what happened here? Like who, who sat on the remote? Who like, and then, oh, I don't even know what to like, I know it's some sort of streaming thing, but like now everyone knows the name to be from it. But I didn't think about the.
Starting point is 00:24:08 It's one of the best ads I've seen. It's just like, it's so. I didn't say that people are so fucked up that it's, it's turned into that. Yeah. Cause I'm sure like when they were making that, they never, I don't know. Like that would never cross my mind. I don't know. Like it honestly didn't until I started seeing this post and other stories
Starting point is 00:24:26 that actually happened. Yeah. Yeah. And there was something else like, and I saw a lot of lighthearted responses to where people were like, well, by learned I was the least favorite friend in the group because they blamed me for the to be commercial. Like small stuff like that. It's kind of funny, but like it's not funny.
Starting point is 00:24:42 It's like, oh sad. Yeah. Like who got blamed for the to be commercial. Exactly. Oh my God. It's just so bad. So this story is from off my chest and it's titled, I broke up with my boyfriend over the to be super bowl commercial.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Yeah. There is a content note on this commercial or my God. On the Reddit story. And this is like the first time I've actually seen it, but it says intimate partner violence. So that can kind of be a trigger warning for anyone that might be triggered by this story and the conversation around it. So this is your time to skip ahead.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I 23 female broke up with my boyfriend 25 male over the reaction. He had to me over the to be commercial. For those of you who are unaware during the Super Bowl commercials to be a streaming app played a prank where they made it look like someone was changing the TV over to their app. I'm sure that in many households. It caused chaos and was a funny event, but not in mine. My boyfriend thought I was the one changing the channel and began screaming
Starting point is 00:25:56 at me violently calling me things that I don't even want to write down. Even as I told him it was a commercial. He ignored me and kept blowing up at me and punched a hole in our living room wall. He absolute psychopath. Oh my God. He eventually realized what actually happened and awkwardly apologized. But I was so disgusted over his reaction to a 15 second commercial.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I feel like if you can't keep your anger in check and get that violent over something so small, I don't want to be around for it. We've been together for over a year, living together for the past two months, and I've known him to get angry at things sometimes, but this really took me off guard and I can't forget how unsafe I felt around him during this. In the morning, I took some of my things and I'm now staying at my parents house.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I left him a note telling him how I felt and that I didn't think we were going to work out long term. He's been messaging and calling me repeatedly. My parents told me that I'm overreacting since he had a bit to drink and the Super Bowl gets everyone riled up. No, but I don't feel I am. I don't think it's normal to be that angry. The fact that like regardless of what it's what he's angry at the fact
Starting point is 00:27:21 that he like is punching a hole in the wall like and it's literally over like changing the channel. I think she's maybe the commercial was like good to just get out like to realize that sooner than later like dodging a bullet. Yeah. It's like that behavior is regardless of what it's over. It's like you see they're like true colors and it's yeah. No, get out of there.
Starting point is 00:27:48 It's just scary and I think a lot of times it is kind of like this pattern of like first they punch walls and then they punch you. Yeah, it's going to escalate. Yeah. And this wasn't a 15 second time span. Like it set him off that quick. Like that's that's scary too. Like I would be terrified.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yeah, he was drinking but like so every time he's drinking you have to be scared that you'll like set him off. Like I don't think that's an excuse for saying that. Yeah, like you're overreacting. No, I think you're I think you're responding appropriately. Yeah. Honestly, like if you don't feel safe, like seriously, like I feel like if anything, they use like they
Starting point is 00:28:30 should protect you like you're supposed to feel safe with them. Like that's the point of having a partner. Yeah. You should feel safe with them. Right. I hope she actually follows through with this and doesn't get like gas lit by people to like, oh, it was just it's not a big deal. Blah, blah, blah, blah, because yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Okay. This was a commercial, but imagine if she had accidentally done this. Yeah. He got awkward and embarrassed after he learned it was a commercial, but if this would have actually been her and like all of these people in these situations that had similar experiences, yeah, if it was actually their fault, no way he would have been embarrassed and apologetic after like he would have thought that was okay.
Starting point is 00:29:13 He would have been justified for like changing the channel. Like I feel like then you just you're what you're walking on eggshells at all times, like you don't want to set them off. Like, Oh, that's what I would feel like. And then yeah, what's the point of being in a relationship if you, I don't know, you should be yourself and be comfortable and like supported love and not feel nervous or scared or yeah. It's not fair for her or anyone that went through this.
Starting point is 00:29:45 The top comment on this one is when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time, which is a quote by Maya Angelou and they go under it and go believe him. He's got an impressive collection of red flags. And so that was the top comment at the time. This is using the way back machine because it's been deleted by the person who originally posted it. So our OP and the comment on it now is Jesus fucking Christ.
Starting point is 00:30:15 That ad is not even 10 seconds long. It only took him that much to insult you and punch a wall. Ultimately destroying your mutual trust. Yikes. That's scary. You deserve much better than that. Mad respect for standing your own ground. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I can't even be able to trust someone again after they did that. Like, I don't even know how long that would take. Like it's actually, I don't know if I could trust someone like I would be in this same boat. I know it's easy to like think about like all of the good times together and like you, you think about those good times and you're going to miss that. But like, yeah, no, you start to like romanticize it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:56 The rosecar glass. You have to think about all the bad time, all the times you feel bad. Like if it happened and yeah, and that short of like a span of time that it's going to happen again and yeah, it could be worse and no, well, and they've only been together like a year, a year and maybe two months. Like I'm kind of confused by the timeline, but get out now versus your five years down the road and you have a kid with this person. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Like once you're married or once you have kids, like at least if you don't have anything like binding, like it's, it's better that you found out sooner than later. Absolutely. Get out. This dude needs to get his shit together. This is unacceptable. If anyone pull yourself together, man.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah. I wish I could do her accent. I know. Yeah. No, my attempt is pretty brutal. I need to hear it. My attempt is brutal. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I'll do it later. But I need it. I need to actually hear her say it. We'll play it in the car on the way to the game. Yeah. But if anyone in your life, like is this obsessed with sports? This is a red flag. Like if they're going to react like this when their team loses and they
Starting point is 00:32:05 punch a TV and burn their city to the ground or do stupid shit. Like Philly, Philly had to grease all of their light poles. I saw that. This is ridiculous. I saw that. People who are this obsessed and aggressive about their team losing or even winning and they still act like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Need professional help. Yeah. They need a padded room during football season. Honestly, they shouldn't, they shouldn't be allowed to watch football. And I think if you have someone in your life where like everything's great, perfect, but they get super upset and they're a bad sport after games. Don't watch games with them. Be gone on Sunday, but it's so hard because it's like football has become
Starting point is 00:32:42 like, oh, it was a Sunday thing. You know, it's Monday night football, Thursday night football. It's every, it's literally every day of the week. It's yeah. It's so dumb. I have to say, I have to say, like when football season started, I was kind, I was like glad I was single because I didn't have to deal with someone like literally it's with fantasy football and with all the games.
Starting point is 00:33:07 It's like nonstop. I mean, my brother in law, I love him, but it's like, oh, I forget. They can't do anything because there's a football game on tonight. Like it's literally my brother Taylor. And I, yeah. And he's not even that bad. Like he's, but it's, they get so sucked in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And it's so sucked in. So I'm glad I didn't have to watch any of the, no, or deal with it. Oh my God. I actually saw, I think I probably ticked out cause I learned everything on TikTok, but I saw a thing and it was like something about the sweat ratio. And it was like, um, okay, I'm horrible at telling stories or like re citing something, but it was something like the more you sweat yourself, you know, like working out or playing sports or something compared to watching other
Starting point is 00:33:53 people's sweat, like watching sports and stuff. Like it was like the more you sweat instead of watching it. I'm horrible at saying this. But it was something like you're happier and it's just like something like your life will just be better. And like it's you'll, you'll be happier. Like you don't, you need to sweat more than you watch other people sweat. Like, oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Kind of like, you know, people that just sit and watch people play sports all day and like, but have never like gone out and done it themselves or just don't, you know, work out or do anything. It's like, and then yeah. Well, also when you work out, you have happy endorphins and you're like getting stressed out, tension, whatever. So yeah, honestly, I see that being very valid. And I do just want to like say, like, if you are one of these people
Starting point is 00:34:45 struggling with an abusive relationship, it on average, I've said this again and again, on average takes someone seven attempts to leave. Yeah. And I commend you. It is such a tough position to be in. Yeah. It, and I get there. So there's so much context that go into our lives and our relationships
Starting point is 00:35:10 and it's not easy, but just know like if you are struggling, like you deserve better. You deserve to be safe and happy and loved and supported and cherished. You're not someone's punching bag. Like no matter what you think of yourself, like I'm telling you, you do not deserve that. Yeah. So if anyone out there does need any help, the National Domestic Violence Hotline number is 800-799-7233 and I'll post it in the description as well.
Starting point is 00:35:41 But I think there's like text options now. If you can't talk on the phone and you need help, you know, there's, there's options out there, but just know you deserve better. Like we all deserve such happy, fulfilling, wholesome lives. To be, you just, to be, I thought it was great. And now, now I'm like, fuck. Now I'm like, dang, like, I know. I thought the same thing.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I was like, that's a great commercial. But if you don't have that context, like how would we have known? And if someone even said on one of the TikToks, I saw kind of analyzing it. They're like, they didn't do a focus group at all. Like they didn't do a focus group of like a bunch of people. Kind of. Yeah. And so like people were like, if they would have done a simple focus group,
Starting point is 00:36:30 they probably could have found out from a one woman or another that this might be a very triggering commercial. So it's just interesting. It was, I saw the guy, it was like from a really small marketing firm and it just, it sucks. And like the one who like made them or like his company did and he was like coming on tech talk to talk about, he's like, ask me any questions. So honestly, I might try to find his account cause maybe he's responded to
Starting point is 00:36:57 that now and maybe to be has cause it's their commercial. But yeah, just craziness. I mean, but I also like, I don't know how much you can blame them. Like think of like, if, I think of like, if the game goes bad or like, you know, if something happened and then someone's mad about the game, like that could still flare up the same emotion. So it's not all like TV's fault, but it's definitely, I can definitely see how it like sparks.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah. Anger and like just people getting annoyed by it and yeah. Absolutely. We need to like, and I think this is where our generation is really hopefully changing how we raise our boys and like that toxic masculinity and that aggression and that getting volatile and like angry. Yeah. And like, yeah, mental health issues can kind of contribute to stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But I think we're raising our boys better now to where they can actually handle their big emotions. Yeah. At least a lot of people are. And so I hope that as we age, like all of these rates of these crazy things will go down, but yeah, and mental health help will get better and easier. But okay, moving along from to be because we got a bunch of other good ones. I have like 10 tabs open replacement windows by Amsco windows are masterfully
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Starting point is 00:39:02 just have a lot to do. So this next one. Am I the asshole for suggesting I would petition the court if my wife named our son without my consent? Wait, petition the court? What does that mean? I have no idea. We're going to find out.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Okay. I 26 male am a third as in of the three. It's like Roman numerals is so stupid. It's like II variety. You know how it's like. Oh, the third senior junior. The first, the second, the third, like all that stuff. He's a third.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah. I'm a third. I'm a third. I'm like, okay, we got to explain it for everyone because I was kind of like what the fuck. Yeah. Okay. My grandfather had the same name as his dad.
Starting point is 00:39:50 My dad has the same name as my grandfather and I have the same name as all of them. Which wouldn't he be the fourth? He'd technically be. Well, I guess the first one, you don't say someone the first. Oh, but yeah, you would say the second, the third, he should be the fourth. Yeah. I think he's supposed to be the fourth.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And I have the same name as all of them. We've all gone by some sort of varied version. My great grandfather was just Richard. My grandfather goes by his middle name and dad for an inexplicable reason chose to go by Dick and I'm called. And I'm called by my last name. And when I found out I was having a son, I thought it was a no-brainer that we would carry on this tradition.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I'm still very close with my family and I work for my dad. So breaking this mold isn't some easy line to cross. In fact, I'd say it's one of my all-around deal breakers, which is why I was so shocked when my wife, who already knew about the name tradition, disclosed to me that she didn't want to be the fourth in this long-standing tradition. She has tried to compromise by changing his middle name. I told her that's not how traditions like these go.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I said we could give him any nickname she wanted him to have within reason. And she said his friends still likely would call him something else. There's been lots of back and forth, including passive aggressive nameless, left up where I can see them. It came to a head yesterday when my wife informed me that upon reading up online in some states women are given the paperwork and their spouses are asked to leave the room. So she could name him what she wanted.
Starting point is 00:41:39 This really hurt me. She knows what the name means to me as well as what my family name could do for our son's future. I responded by saying that if that were the case, I'd have no choice but to petition the court for a name change. She then flipped her story, said she was joking and called me terrible for even thinking about taking her to court over something like this. Am I the asshole?
Starting point is 00:42:09 Wait, you can do that. Like take someone to court to change your baby's name. Sounds like a Judge Judy case. What? But honestly, you can sue people and take them to court for anything I feel. Oh my God. I wouldn't be surprised. Like some of the stuff you see on Judge Judy in those shows is insane.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah. Right. So it's the guy talking. Yeah. I think he's the asshole. Like, okay, your kid's getting your last name already. And then if he also has to have your first name too, like, and no one even, no one in like the second, third, no one goes by that name anyway.
Starting point is 00:42:46 So like what, what does it matter? Like I get the tradition, but like how long are you going to go? Like you're going to. I know. I, I get tradition, but sometimes traditions are just like weird. They don't, I'm, I'm on her side. I think like. I kind of think they both need to like get their shit together.
Starting point is 00:43:08 They're kind of acting. I keep forgetting about Edna mode. Insane about this name. And it's like, you're, okay, you're going to kick him out of the room and then pick a name that he doesn't want either. Like this is both of your kid. Like you can't threaten him with that. And it's like, you did, you were serious about that.
Starting point is 00:43:25 You were absolutely serious about that. That's insane. And then so he's like coming back and he's like, well, I'm going to petition the court then if you kick me out of the room and pick a name, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like they're both so deranged. Like get your shit together. You both need to pick this name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:40 You can't do it civilly. How the fuck are you even having a kid together? I didn't even think about that. Like, yeah. How are you going to decide on anything? You can't decide on your like kids name. How? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:52 How do you decide on anything else in your life for like big decisions together? Like what is this? I guess name is a big thing, but like it's not like life or death. Like it's just a name and you technically he could, your kid just could just change it later anyway. So you can and like your kid might grow up and be like, I don't even like this name anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:15 So I'm going to change it. I don't want to be the fourth or the fifth or whatever the hell he's like changing queens. That's what I think of. It's like Henry the four or I don't know. I don't know. Like, oh, you know, like kings and like royals. They're always like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:34 They all have the same names and they're all just the third, the fourth, the whatever. I dated a fifth. Who? David Long, Granis, the fifth. The fifth. He was the fifth and I. Oh, see like that's like cringy.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Like to, I hear that and I'm like, oh, the fifth. Like it sounds so conceited and like so just like sounds like stuffy. And like, I don't know. I don't like the it's interesting. It's really interesting. And like, did he write that on things? Like, no, it was just Dave Granis. Like he wouldn't even go by David.
Starting point is 00:45:08 He just went by Dave. The fifth. The fifth. I didn't know he was the fifth. Yeah. And that's why his number like he played, he played football and hockey. And I think his number in both was five because he's the fifth because he's the fifth.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Oh, I mean, oh my God. Okay. So I just texted him too. That's who I was typing. You're texting. I was texting him. Oh, so it was his kid. Can it be?
Starting point is 00:45:33 So I just asked him. The sixth. Cause I just, yeah. So I go, I haven't talked to, this isn't like my ex-boyfriend. Wait, did he respond? Yeah. He just responded. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Now I'm excited. So I, I literally just texted him. I was like super random, but do you plan on naming your kid the sixth? And he goes, maybe get the sixth like, but you got it. He got it. He got it. I was trying to, I wasn't trying to type forever and I already distracted you. You already scared me when you did that.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So he goes up to the future mother. I'm not sure which way I'm leaning to be honest, definitely not a bill. Oh, I think he meant hill. Definitely not a hill. I would die on like, quote, my kid has to be David Longranus the sixth. So TBD. Good answer. I have the solid.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Good answer. Solid. Yeah. You got to choose your battles and like really you're going to. Yeah. Yeah. He's a good, he's a good guy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:27 That was a good answer. High school Dave, Dave, you're listening. High school Dave, not so nice to Morgan, but he's, he's grown. Apparently. Does he even have a girlfriend? I think so. I see him on their Instagram. Dave is like one ex that I like actually, I could invite to my wedding and like,
Starting point is 00:46:45 it would be a good time. Like Dave is, he's very nice. Okay. Yeah. Text him back. Thank you for your participation in two hot takes. Yeah. Good answer too.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Could have gotten, could have gotten bad the sixth. Yeah. I kind of like it. I think it's like, it is a cool tradition, but I remember talking with Dave in high school cause like, I think everyone when you're in a relationship, you like, if we had a kid like, oh, names and like, I mean, in grad school, like I had friends that had iPhone notes with like names that they loved for their babies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:18 So I have an iPhone note now where like, I have a list of names. Yeah. Cause after I saw there is I was like, that's a great idea. Cause what if I forget some. Oh, see I, yeah, but I feel like they're going to like go in and out of like style. Yeah. Mine are very out there and gender neutral. No, I went Morgan.
Starting point is 00:47:36 No, it'd be Morgan, Ashley, Marie. The second. Yeah. That's hard. I'm Marie too. I feel like half of girl, half of the population is Marie, Marie or Anne. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:48 So many. So I don't know, but I remember talking about it. I'm like, I don't like Dave Granis. Okay. But like long for a middle name, L O N G like, wait, what? His middle name is long. Like L O N G like, oh, that's so long. That's a long drive.
Starting point is 00:48:06 All I think about is something else. Long dick. That's why they gave him the middle name. No, he's the fifth. So it started. Oh, so it's like a long line. Yeah. It's a long line of David Longs.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Wait, David Long. Yeah. Oh, they're all David Long. They're all that's, I think that's the tradition first and the middle. It has to be everything. I think it's all or nothing. Yeah. David Long.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yeah. Long's weird. I know. So I remember talking to high school where I'm like, I'm not crazy about the middle name, but like we can do everything else. And then I think it was the same thing where it was like, well, won't count. And that's what his wife is saying too. It's just like, it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:48 It's not lining up, but these people need to get their shit together. It's, it's okay to break traditions. We can all do it. Like Jordan, you named your little sister. You guys all got to vote. Oh, yeah, we got to vote. And I, her name is Brooke Christina. Did you vote on?
Starting point is 00:49:02 I did not choose Brooke. Oh, yeah. What'd you pick? I don't remember. But there's five of us. It must have been like three versus two because I don't think I was the only one that said no, but no, wait, she was the fifth one. So nevermind.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I was four and my dad, I guess. So I'm no five of you, your mom, your dad, and then four of us, you, Stephen, Danielle, five, Jenna. Oh my God. You have so many siblings. Six. So there were six people voting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:30 So yeah, she didn't get a name until like a week after she was born. I don't even know. Like babies could wait that long without a name. Yeah. Wait. It wasn't I tell you my grandma's baby girl on her birth certificate. That's right. Cause she like left the hospital.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Didn't have a name yet. Oh my God. I mean, my birth certificate is in pencil. So that is insane. That's so crazy. I guess you just write it in pencil like back in the day in 1994. I swear. It's my mom's handwriting in pencil on my birth certificate.
Starting point is 00:50:01 So that's nuts. Do you know what you almost wear? If you wouldn't have been Jordan, what was your name? Devin, but my dad didn't like that name. I hate. No. Oh my God. No, I feel like it's not that different from Jordan though.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Cause it's like a girl named boy name. I guess Devin can be both. Yeah. I think I had a girl in when I was in Massachusetts. I had a friend named Devin, but then also my neighbor in Massachusetts. Name was Devin was a boy. One was a girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 But I don't know anyone in like Minnesota or any anywhere else named Devin. I just know boys named Devin. I was almost Danielle. Really? Yeah. Which I, I could kind of see. Don't like that name for me at all. I could kind of see you as a Danielle.
Starting point is 00:50:41 No, I don't. I don't, I can't see it. Morgan fits you better, but I could kind of, I don't know why. Would you change your name today? If you could, like, have you ever thought about a name? If you would change it? No. You just feel Jordan.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I just don't care. That's how I feel about Morgan. Well, no, I guess I do care, but like, I don't think anything else really fits me. Yeah. Like I can't picture my name being not Morgan. No, I can't either. It's too weird. Like my mom and like growing up, it was like Jordan was the boy name, but I was the boy version.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Like A N. And then you started seeing people be like, Y N for the girl version. Yeah. My mom was like, we could change your name. I was like, I don't care. Like it's, it's all good. What is it? And actually for work, I think it works out to my benefit if people think I'm a boy.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Anyway, so I email people all day and I get he, Mr. Like what? I think it works out to my benefit. It does. It 100% does. Yeah. It's been studied. Like Mr.
Starting point is 00:51:41 MacIver like, I'm like, okay, sure. I'm just going to go along with it. And then I get on a call or meet them in person and they're usually shocked. And it's kind of funny. Got to let the paycheck you work for you sometimes, you know? Yeah. Um, the top comment on this one is you're the asshole quote because that's how it's done is not a valid reason to name your child something.
Starting point is 00:52:04 She is trying to compromise with you by giving you the middle name. You are not. I'm guessing the baby will have your last name. There's no reason the baby needs your first name as well. What could a first name do for your son's future? Give your child his own identity. Don't just make him number four. I agree.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Someone goes, what can it do for his future? Mess up mail and paperwork. But I think actually though, I think there is like some things where it works cause like so my brother-in-law, his, him and his dad have the same name. And I forget what it was. It was with like, I don't know if it was with like a ticket or I can't even remember now, but it was something where like him and his dad had the same name. So he just kind of like his dad had an account or something and he was just like,
Starting point is 00:52:54 Oh yeah, I'm like, I can't remember what it was. It wasn't like anything like bad, but it was like, it was just a lot easier. Like, Oh yeah, we have the same name. So it just, yeah, I can't remember what it was. Stealing his online order. No, but it was like something with, now I can't even remember, but, but there are some like benefits if like you have the same name. Maybe, maybe it's illegal things.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I don't even know. I feel like maybe you're not supposed to do it, but I'm not sure. There is an edit on this and OP goes, we did discuss this prior to marriage and getting pregnant. She agreed. I wouldn't be shocked by her feelings on the matter. If we hadn't talked about it first. So it sounds like she was like, yeah, we'll name it, we'll name it the same
Starting point is 00:53:45 name, we'll name the baby the same name as you. It can be the fourth or the fifth, whatever it's actually supposed to be. Yeah. And now she's like switching it up because OP kind of said like this would have been a deal breaker for me. Like, which is kind of honestly, I think if someone would say someone said that to me, like it's a deal breaker, like my baby doesn't give me, I think I would think they were joking.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Like probably. I don't know. Maybe she thought it was a joke or, or she was like, well, that's not really going to happen, but I'll just like agree to it now and then he'll forget about it later. Or I don't, I don't know, but such a dumb move to do like a deal breaker for your kid, not having your name. Like they get your last name.
Starting point is 00:54:27 That is true. The girl does all the work literally creates the baby does all the work. Like their body gets destroyed. And then the baby takes the guy's name, the last name already. So like, and then it's going to take his first name too. Like it's like, you did all the work and then they get all the credit. Yeah. Interesting world.
Starting point is 00:54:48 That's patriarchy yet again, but I saw a video from a lesbian couple and they, they were talking and they're like, I don't know why you straights haven't figured it out yet. Like you should be taking the per, like the cooler last name. Oh yeah. And so like Lauren, cause there's some bad last name. There's so many bad last names out there. Sorry guys.
Starting point is 00:55:09 If yours is bad, but I literally, I was talking to a guy once upon a time and his last name was Hyman. That's a real last name. It literally, and I felt so bad cause like he was such a nice guy and I actually really liked him, but his last name gave me the ick. Is this weird Morgan Hyman? No. So like there's this concept of like either you pick the cooler name or
Starting point is 00:55:34 some couples, even like some straight couples. I've seen that like they'll pick their own last name. I had. Yeah. Like that's cool. So I had a boss one time in college. My like when I worked for retail and my boss was, she was like very free spirit and I don't even know what her husband's last name was, but like
Starting point is 00:55:56 they, yeah, they got married and they just chose their own last name. I kind of like it. If both of their last names sucked, like it made sense. I forgot hers was like white feather or something. They chose something that was like in a, from a different language that meant, or it meant something else. I have no idea. That's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:15 They were, yeah, kind of in their own worlds, but like, like that great for them, like if it works for them, like, I know. But I can see, well, last names are different though. Cause like, I can see how people, you don't want your last name to like die. Like, yeah. Some people are so crazy about that. I mean, my family, so we have four girls, one boy, Stephen, you better, uh, keep the name going cause.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I wouldn't give up your last name though. It's so cool. I mean, I like my last name, but I'd keep it. I'm not, it's a good one. Cause I'll just stay single. I think it's what's going to happen. Jordan is single though, and she lives in Chicago. So if, if anyone knows any good dudes in Chicago who aren't scared of dogs, Jordan
Starting point is 00:57:01 does have a dog that is very slow to warm. She, yeah, she needs a boyfriend. Yeah. My dog. Yeah. She just needs people or a trainer. If anyone's a dog trainer in Chicago, any single dog trainers out there. I know, um, Audrey, one of our listeners is a dog trainer, but
Starting point is 00:57:20 she doesn't live in Chicago. So there's, I need all the help I can get. Seriously. Jordan, MacIver on Instagram. I need help. I need help. Please, please help. Morgan is the first visitor I've had over in quite some time.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Yeah. Literally the only person at the last apartment. And also at this apartment. So yeah, she did good with Justin too. Cause you're good with her. I, or like she doesn't mind you. She doesn't like you, but she doesn't hate you. Dog whisperer.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And she hates everyone. Yeah. No, she hasn't bitten me. So we're good. Yeah. Um, yeah, they're just, there's, there's not a lot of interesting comments beyond that. Everyone in the comments is picking up.
Starting point is 00:58:06 They're like, wait, the baby would actually be number five. Great grandfather, one grandfather. Everyone's just trying to collect three OP for baby five. So, so he doesn't even know what number he is. So why does it matter? Honestly, I could see this family being so stupid. They messed it up. Probably.
Starting point is 00:58:24 I could see it because it is kind of confusing where it's like senior, junior, the second. No, it goes from senior, junior to the third. Oh, I forgot about the senior, junior. Yeah. Cause then once you get past senior, junior, then does the junior become senior when you have a junior or you're like junior, junior. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:43 We're going to need to fill out. Junior, junior, you just, I don't know. I'm so curious now because when you fill out those like things, like even when you buy an airline ticket, it's like your prefix or whatever where it's like doctor, senior. Yeah. It asks you when you buy stuff like plane tickets. What's the difference between miss like MISS and MS?
Starting point is 00:59:04 One is don't quote me. We're going to have to Google this, but I thought MISS was for like a younger woman that's unmarried. So that's still me. And MS is actually Ms. Where it's a single woman, but could be divorced, matronly. Yeah. So I'm still MISS.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Yes. Wow. Someone the other day called me, or on a dating app said Ms. Chicago, MS Chicago. Wow. So that's like matronly, isn't it? Yeah. I think of like teachers, like in school, we're like either MRS
Starting point is 00:59:45 or MS. No, it's MISS. Oh my God. Apparently you should learn the difference because calling someone the other can be offensive. Yeah. If you're calling someone old, if you call them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:57 So the meaning of miss when attached to a name has a title of respect for a female child and an unmarried woman. It has been used by itself or combined with a name. Ms. Penelope Edwards. Excuse me, miss. Um, it's more formal, blah, blah, blah, blah. Mrs.
Starting point is 01:00:17 We all know MRS is a married woman. MS. What if you don't know whether someone is married or not? Unlike miss, M-I-S-S or Mrs. MRS, miss pronounced Ms. MS doesn't indicate a woman's marital status. So it became a good option when you didn't have that context. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So, okay. It's just kind of a, a shot in the dark. I don't like that the women, like it for girls, it changes when you get married. How come it's mister for guys all the time? Just mister. That's the only option. Oh, um, but like if you're married, then you get a different.
Starting point is 01:00:59 So this is interesting. What's it called? Like a prefix. Prefect. Yeah. That's your pronoun. That was wrong. So there is a new one that's been added though and it was
Starting point is 01:01:08 added to the Merriam-Webster unabridged in 2016 and it's M-X pronounced mix and it's to kind of be the honorific functions as a general neutral alternative to titles like mister and miss. So mix. This is the first time I've ever heard of this mix. It doesn't indicate a marital status. M-X. This is mix Schaefer and they head up the financial department.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Mix if someone, but it's like, I was like talking to someone. They said mix something. I would think that's their name mix. And like it's going to take a long time before that gets like, I mean, it was put in there in 2016 and I've never heard about it. No, I've never heard of it. So maybe they need like memos. How do we sign up for like a country wide memo?
Starting point is 01:01:55 But that's kind of, I feel like that's kind of like Latin X, right? Yeah. Cause everything is gender based. Latino, Latino, Latino, Latino, I guess that's the similar. Yeah. So interesting. Learn something new every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Every day. That is it. We're taking a break. We're headed to the Chicago Blackhawks game. Hopefully they lose. Yeah. Go Vegas. Jordan wants a good draft pick.
Starting point is 01:02:22 You know, Tank for Bedard. Yeah. So we are off. See you tomorrow. Technically in like an ad break for those listening and watching, but the sun will be up when we start this again. So be back soon.
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Starting point is 01:04:09 Wait, first I have to watch that Edna mode video. Just to get in the like get in the mood. Pull yourself together like this too. I just found out it's a guy that voices Edna mode. She's so cute. Fashion icon. Last night we had a good night. Went to the Blackhawks game.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Solid time. We have some weather today to be determined. If I end up leaving Chicago on a plane because Minnesota is also expected to get like 20 inches of snow. So it's a good time. Good time we're having here. But are you ready to get back into these stories? I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I don't know that. I don't know what that is. It's the DJ horn. No, I have it on my sound pad. I'll play it for you. Yeah. It's a thing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:08 It's a thing. I was like cuter. Oh, well, thank you. Jordan's arch enemy, I guess is like Kelly Clarkson. I just don't like her little like sound effects for everything. Yeah. She makes the same DJ noise that I do. So it sounds like a dog or something.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Well, okay. So I have one blues clues. Yeah. So I have one that's blues clues and the one that's the DJ horn, but it's blues clues. And then it's like the DJ horn. Yeah, subtle, subtle differences here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:41 This story probably is one that made me the most mad out of any recent stories I've read. Okay. It is a doozy. So it's from am I the asshole? It was posted six days ago. It has 40,000 of votes about and it is titled am I the asshole for calling my mom when my husband refused to listen to me?
Starting point is 01:06:05 I 26 female recently moved into my first home. I am also four months pregnant with our first baby. This pregnancy has been very hard. I have horrible morning sickness. It reached a really bad point where I passed out hit my head and my doctor admitted me to the hospital for a week. Oh, that's really scary. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:06:30 When I got home, my husband allowed his brother's family to move in to two of our three bedrooms. They were evicted. I don't know why one room that was my office was tossed into our room papers everywhere. The house was a complete wreck trash dirty clothes used diapers. I started to cry. It was like a light switch had flipped and my husband was no
Starting point is 01:06:57 longer the same. My husband told me it quote wasn't that bad. My reply was quote fine. Then you should have the house cleaned up before I wake up completely exhausted. I fell asleep for four hours when I woke up and went to get a drink of water. I couldn't every glass we own is scattered around the whole house.
Starting point is 01:07:19 They didn't clean a single thing. I pass of aggressively started to pick up the dirty dishes and washed them the following morning. I was trying my best to work when their kids were crying nonstop banging on the walls and so on. Their mom was in her room for hours ignoring them. When my husband came home, he was upset with me over how I didn't make his brother's wife feel welcome in our home by
Starting point is 01:07:46 helping with their kids when she was tired. Then continue to complain how nothing was done while he was at work all day in the house. Yep, the same one he didn't clean. That led to a fight where I told him quote. I am too sick to have company and they need to leave to which he replied they are his family and he won't kick them out. I started to cry again.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I was beyond frustrated exhausted. I just physically couldn't do it anymore. I called my mom asking if I could come stay with her telling her the whole story in front of my husband who at this point was completely shocked angry. Also, I could tell he wasn't sure what to do. Well, my mom came with my brothers. I have three older brothers.
Starting point is 01:08:36 My mom super angry told my husband quote since your family can stay so can we my mom quickly took charge. I was sent to bed. My brothers started cleaning complaining loudly at how disgusting my brother-in-law's family is along with what a horrible husband my husband is for putting me through this while I am sick. I got a text message from my mother-in-law for calling me
Starting point is 01:09:01 an asshole for not helping my husband clean up the house and putting my brother-in-law in an uncomfortable position by having my mom boss him around. Oh my God. And then I think that's where it originally stopped. There's a bunch of edits now. So we get even more detail, but that's where it stopped and was like, am I the asshole on the original like before the
Starting point is 01:09:32 updates? Oh my God. I can't wait. I kind of love that her like family coming in and like just I love taking over. I obviously love it. Oh my God. I love it.
Starting point is 01:09:43 It's such a power move. I'm just picturing like the tiniest little house with like, well, I don't know if it's tiny, but I just picture like way too small for the amount of people that are in there and just like. Yeah. Yeah, I could not. I couldn't do that. I would be losing my marbles.
Starting point is 01:10:05 It's hard enough if it was your own family, but then when it's like your husband's fit like. Well, and it's like, yeah, they're being really nice and they're helping, which amazing. Like that's really nice because they got evicted or whatever. Oh, oh yeah. The brother in law and his family was helping. They're doing the exact opposite.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Can you imagine having a guest come over and they have little kids who are still in diapers and they just leave the used diapers. No. I don't know what planet they're from, but that is so gross. That's disgusting. I would, I'd kick them out. I would kick them out.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yeah. Like I'm sure there's hotels nearby. Like I would absolutely go nuts. Yeah. No, I could not. No. Just imagine the smell in the place. If there's dirty diapers everywhere.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Insert the cat gag GIF like cat having a hairball. Like, yeah, that's what I feel on the inside. Just that's disgusting. I just think it's really, really, really messed up on him. Like she's pregnant. She just got out of the hospital where she was kept at the hospital for a week. I forgot about that part too.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Like don't you think she should come home after a hospital stay like that to a quiet, calm, clean house and be taking care of instead of taking care of his whole family? What's not clicking for him? Yeah. And then to like blame her and be like, why aren't you cleaning? Why aren't you cleaning the house?
Starting point is 01:11:50 Why didn't you make my brother's wife feel more welcome? Some people just live in a different world. I think like, I don't understand how that's like. I don't get it. Okay. Yeah. I like stay at someone else's house too and just like leaving a mess or just like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I'm like, I keep my stuff in a neat little pile in the corner like, yeah. No, I feel bad. I feel bad for having like the podcast stuff out. I'm just like, I'm just like, you always want to be a good guest. Yeah. And they're doing the exact opposite.
Starting point is 01:12:23 And then you're pregnant. So like not feeling well. Like I already, I like my own space. I can't imagine being pregnant and not feeling good and being exhausted and then having to entertain and like take care of people that are not usually like having just like permanent guests. I love having you here, but you're like the third guest in
Starting point is 01:12:45 like two weeks and that it's kind of like, oh, you're ready for your own space. Exhausted. You're ready for your own space. No, I saw your little calendar that you have on the wall with all your guest stuff. And I'm like, I had to start writing it down. You gotta just be exhausted.
Starting point is 01:13:01 And it's not, and I didn't even do that much either because it's just, but it's still just like, I want the apartment to be clean. It's like, okay, I washed the sheets really quick, but then it's also just like having people in your space. Like it's nice having people run and I love seeing, you know, you and my, when my sister's here, but I need that time alone. Like it's exhausting.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Like, and cause I always feel like I have to entertain or like plan things and that's not a natural like thing that I'm good at or like to do. Like I'm like, someone make the plan. I'm down for whatever. I'll go wherever telling you like, I'll do whatever. Like I don't care, but making the plans. That's like, how long did it take me to make a reservation?
Starting point is 01:13:44 The other like two hours, but no, I feel the same way. And that's what's like having people over. It's yeah, it's work. Like, and then if they're also bad guests, that's even worse miserable. No, and I feel bad cause like I want friends to like be able to come visit, but it is nice where it's like, if you want to come visit, feel free to bring someone else because like I also am working a lot or like if I just like want to nap, I don't
Starting point is 01:14:10 feel bad where I'm like, you flew to LA and all we're doing is sitting at my house. That's why like I love coming here cause like we've just had the chillest week and it's like, I am so happy sitting on someone's couch and not like, I don't have to go adventure and be busy nonstop. Yeah. I don't need that.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Yeah. And some people would be sad by that. Like Alejandra is totally the opposite where she's like, if I'm in a new city, I'm going to get out. I'm going to go walk around. I'm going to be busy, busy, busy all the time. Like, yeah, we went to Austin for like a podcast thing and I was like super ill the next day.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I had like the worst cramps of my life. I was dying. And so I was sitting in the hotel room all day. Like I didn't, I didn't care. Like I wanted to be rested for performing and like going out after and she got up at like 8am and walked all over Austin by herself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 And I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm so sorry. Like no one went with you. She was like, no, it's fine. Like I just wanted to bop around. There's like different kinds of travelers. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's like the, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:11 The, the relaxing travelers or the go, go, go. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I'm used to the go, go. That's my family is the go, go, go. It's the, from morning to night, constant walking. You see a lot. You do a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:25 And which is great and like it's fun, but it's exhausting. Yeah. It's like, it's yeah. One way, one way to explain Jordan's family really well is they are the family that does the Thanksgiving 5ks. And I think based on that, you can get a good idea of their, their grit and their mentality. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:44 They're, they're all very active people, runners. Yeah. I'm trying to marry into like a mimosa Thanksgiving. Maybe that's why I'm so single. It's cause the Thanksgiving 5k no one wants to come. No one wants to marry into a Thanksgiving 5k family. No. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Honestly, though, like you might, you could find someone that's a runner and like you just waited the finish line with the mimosa and the sign. Yeah. You're just the supportive life. So I kind of, I like, I actually, I didn't hate the 5k this past year though. Oh, so maybe, maybe it's girl of you. I know I'm turning into, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:21 The top comment on this post is wait, your mother-in-law called to fuss at you for involving your mother. There's this pot kettle thing. You know that old saying like that's the pot calling the kettle black, but the pot's black too. Sounds like you're a hypocrite. Yeah. Not the asshole 1000%, but house guests in a shared home requires
Starting point is 01:16:45 two yeses and only one no. Both of you agree or it shouldn't happen. Your husband has treated you abominably. I'm not sure if I could deal with that. Honestly, can you go stay with your mom and OP responding goes, I agree with the two yeses. I wasn't even asked to say no, which is so weird that he just sprung this on her coming out of the hospital.
Starting point is 01:17:07 But I can see though, like with families, like you, you know, you have to, you know, you have this relationship with your family and then you have like the relationship with your wife and like you want to please both, but but your wife is pregnant and just came out of the hospital. Like, that should like, I mean, that should be higher than my, but your family got affected. So it's like a hard, I know you don't want to see them on the streets, but you have this priority of your wife.
Starting point is 01:17:40 I mean, can you just like help out with a hotel? Like, there seems like there could have been more of like a compromise or like the mother-in-law, the mother-in-law, she's, she's loves to get involved. Why didn't they go stay with her? Oh, yeah. I didn't even think about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Like she's calling any other family members that he could stay with. Like she just came home from the hospital and she's pregnant. Dude, being pregnant is no easy feat. And oh my God, I can't, I literally can't imagine, but then I feel like he just like, he goes to work. So then he didn't experience what she had to deal with. And then comes home and it's like, I didn't know that like what issues like I didn't experience any, but she's the one dealing with everything.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Yeah. And she's pregnant. Like, no. Oh my God. When I'm pregnant, I want to be like, can you give me a glass of what? Can you like, I'm like, can you give me a glass of wine? No water. Oh, I was like, Jordan, you can't have that.
Starting point is 01:18:36 No, like I want someone waiting on me when I'm pregnant. Like I'm making, you want to be pampered. I'm making a baby. Yeah. I'm, yeah, that's working. Like I'm making a human. I'm working 24 seven. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Give me the love. Yeah. I don't want to be cleaning the house and like, no, no, no, no, no. But we do have a bunch of edits. I haven't read any of them cause I wasn't on the post when I first found it. And so the goes edited to add update. When my mother-in-law showed up, she was super angry outside. I could hear shouting, but couldn't understand what she said.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Once inside, she was shocked. My house looked really bad. My brother-in-law lied to her about what happened. My mother-in-law quickly started to help my mom in the bossing mode. My house is not just cleaned, but deep cleaned. My brother-in-law and his kids are now staying with mother-in-law. Good. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Good. She didn't know about the eviction. My in-laws helped them financially a couple of months ago. My mother-in-law was not happy about it. Sister-in-law refused to come out of the bedroom. She would scream through the door, but that was about it until her family came to pick her up. Last little bit, I did talk to my husband.
Starting point is 01:20:01 He seemed very remorseful. I asked for some space, so he is staying at a hotel. He asked to come by and talk tonight. My mom and dad are here. Both moms felt like I should have someone here since I am sick. Both moms have set up a meal plan where they trade off who will bring in dinner. It was my mother-in-law's idea.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Thank you for all the advice. I truly appreciate it. Love all of that. Yeah. And we even have more. It keeps just getting juicier. Oh my God. Wake is bad again?
Starting point is 01:20:33 I don't know. I just like to have like an update after an update, you're like something happened because otherwise like they don't usually share. So talked with my husband, summed up since it lasted four hours. It was a hard talk. He is remorseful. Brother-in-law was only supposed to stay for a couple of nights. Then leave.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Originally, he thought they would be gone before I got home. He said he is tired and emotionally upset himself. When I originally passed out, my husband left to help a friend move. He came home and found me. He said he has no idea how long I was on the floor hurt. He was originally scared that I had died. Wow. Since then, he has had nightmares on top of dealing with family drama.
Starting point is 01:21:24 He admitted to dumping his frustration onto me when it's not my fault. He begged me for another chance. The next steps, we are still separated. He plans on staying at my brother's house in his casita. We are going to go to marriage counseling and individual counseling. He asked if he could come when the home nurse comes each night and to my doctor's appointments. I did agree to that.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Update on brother-in-law. His wife admitted to having an affair. She told him she got married too soon and doesn't want the responsibilities of being a mom anymore. I am not sure what will happen with him and his kids, but I am shocked that she feels this way, especially with her kids. She doesn't want the responsibility of being a mom anymore. What?
Starting point is 01:22:17 That came out of left field. Now, because now I already forgot about everything you were saying before that. Now I'm just like the- What? The sister-in-law or whatever, like, I think- That's insane. The- I think if you had a third microphone, just put it down by her.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I know. She'd get the best ASMR noises. Like Dory from Nemo when she's doing the whale noises, but Carlo dog version. Oh my God. She's so dramatic. I'm not talking to you, Harlow. Harlow. Every time I try to talk, she just like groans.
Starting point is 01:22:59 She doesn't want you to talk. She's like shut up. So I'm trying to get a nap. I've had a stressful day of literally nothing. I feel like that family that got evicted and then moved in, I think that there's a lot of issues and then I think it's like her husband. They really know how to deal with that correctly and then it affected his relationship and-
Starting point is 01:23:25 Yeah. It's like family dynamics and stuff. It's just like then dramas are tough. It's weird. I think too, you see this a lot of times, like I found this subreddit recently. It's called regretful parents where there's a lot of parents that just like regret having kids or they regret having one kid like more because this daughter, like the kid is a terror and like all this crazy stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:51 So there's definitely people out there, but you just wonder too, like, I think a lot of times you'll see people that wanted to be child-free and didn't want kids at all and get pressured into having kids and then they regret it. And it's like, if you want kids or your partner doesn't, you're not a good match. Yeah. And like, I feel like especially nowadays, like however you want to run your life, that's how you should run your life. If you want kids at 20, you want to be that young active parent, do it.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Yeah. But something we were talking about last night is like, it's okay to also wait. Like, enjoy your 20s and your early 30s traveling. It's okay to wait. And I was telling you about this TikTok I saw where this woman, she was like, reasons why I regret waiting until I was 35 to have my first child. Yeah. And then the music changes and she's like dancing in a different way and she
Starting point is 01:24:43 goes, none. Like, I don't regret it at all. Yeah. I loved it. And all the comments were like, yes, I did so much in my 20s. It was incredible. And now I have two kids. They're healthy.
Starting point is 01:24:54 They're great. No issues. So it's like, do it how you want to do it. Yeah. Like you don't have to do things the traditional way anymore. There's no rush to have kids. Yeah. And I love to like, have you seen the Chelsea handler videos that she's had?
Starting point is 01:25:09 Oh my God. Yeah. Because she's like a childless or I forget what she said, what her wording is like, yeah, her child's free life or whatever. And she's like, oh, I'm skiing. I'm scuba diving. I'm like, yeah, my life sucks. I'm on top of a mountain.
Starting point is 01:25:25 And then I'm like, and just like, I know, it's, it was amazing. It was so, but you never, you always think of like, oh, it's like someone that's like over like, I don't know, 30, 40. Like once you can't have kids, it's like, oh, and you're single and you don't have kids and like, what do you do with your life? It's like, you live your life. Like, what do you mean? You, what do you do with it?
Starting point is 01:25:50 Like you work. You like enjoy your, you travel. You like, you don't, I mean, you have a lot more free time or not necessarily free time, but just, yeah, we'll definitely, but like all the above you can, yeah, it's just like with kids, there's so many different things you have to think about. And I mean, they kind of run your life, especially while they're like little. So, yeah, yeah, it's, it's like this in society.
Starting point is 01:26:24 It's such a thing of like, oh, why don't you want kids? Like I, I don't know. I think there's a lot to be said, like where it's like, if you don't want kids, there's, there are a lot of benefits, honestly. Like, but then some people argue, but like, but what if I get, what happens when I get old and I don't have any family to take care of me? And, you know, kids can be super fulfilling. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:49 They can bring a lot of joy. They can bring a lot of meaning to your life, but like you shouldn't just have kids because you want a caregiver when you're 80. Like that's not a good reason to have a kid either. I did hear something though that made me think it was like when you're like older and then like, you don't have any grandkids or anything and it was like, that seems kind of sad. But I want the option to like have kids or not have kids, but I, I think
Starting point is 01:27:19 I want kids, but like, I also don't really know. I know. It's really, it's really tough. I think a lot of us in our friend group are at that stage. Like even me and Alejandra talk about it, like Lauren is probably the only one I know that is like 1000% I want kids. I want a lot of kids. Like I want, I want kids.
Starting point is 01:27:36 And I think all of us otherwise are kind of like, well, yeah, like I kind of want kids, but like, I don't know, but like it's, it's more like toting that line of like, yeah, I want kids, but like, it's interesting. Yeah. I don't know how to talk to kids or babies or I don't know what to do around baby. Like I'm awkward. I'm so awkward with like little kids or babies or like I'm not naturally
Starting point is 01:28:01 like my mom is like amazing. Like she's just like so that's like naturally she's like a mother. Like I'm very much like, she's so good with kids and like loves doing it. Like loves like taking care of people and like I'm like, I held my friends baby and I was like, I want to hold it, but she was like, like, I didn't know what to do. Like it's so little. She was like, okay, sit down on the couch.
Starting point is 01:28:25 I'll put the pillow here. Put your arm here. I'll put the baby here. Like I feel like I'm like a little kid, like holding a baby because I like, you didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do. No one that it's and it's like, what do I say to a little kid? Like and everyone's like, just talk to them like a normal person.
Starting point is 01:28:42 I'm like, no, but you ask them like, Oh, how old are you? Like you're not going to ask. And I'm not going to ask you how old are you? Like when I first, it's like, it's different. Yeah. I think it's just cause I'm not used to being around kids. Yeah. Once I have some little nieces and nephews, then maybe I'll get like a baby
Starting point is 01:29:01 fever and then I'll want some, but I just, I'm not around it and I don't. So it also, I think it like, it's not something that like everyone has just like inherently in them. Like there's some people that like your mom, like you said, is just so nurturing. She's like a great, just instantly great mom. But I do think some people do have to learn it. Like this is so embarrassing and maybe it's normal.
Starting point is 01:29:26 I don't know. I feel like it's embarrassing, but I don't know how to change a diaper. I never changed any of my nieces or nephews diapers. Like they're not my kids. I wasn't offering to go do that. Yeah. Hell no. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:29:36 So like, I don't know how to change a diaper. I don't know how to like really burp a baby and I'm like, yeah. I'm like, how do you, how do people learn this when they have kids? Like from what I hear, the parenting classes aren't that great. So like, how do you learn all these? What I think is, what I think is crazy is like, if you have a kid, you, okay, you get birth. I mean, you can, you can do those extra classes, but you don't have to do
Starting point is 01:29:56 those classes. No, they're not required. You go to the hospital or whatever, give birth and then they're like, okay, bye. Like, and then it's like, but if you want to adopt a kid, you have to go through, I don't even know how many hours of like, so much, which I think is great, but I feel like in order to have a baby, you should also have to do some sort of like, or no certain things.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Like, I agree. I mean, cause a lot of parents, you know, you buy all the books on like, what to expect when expecting, whatever. Like I feel like Danielle has been like Googling everything and just like reading a lot because it's like things that you don't think about until you're pregnant or having a baby or something that like, yeah, it's just all these like weird little things that you don't, you wouldn't know unless you had a baby or like have someone to take care of or like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Like I feel like having my, when I was eight and my sister, little sister was a baby, like I felt more comfortable with a baby that my sister who's pregnant right now, she was more comfortable when she was like 10 years old with a baby than she is now, cause she hasn't been around. No. And now she's having her own kid and like trying to relearn everything that like, she kind of picked up when like my little sister was born. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Cause their age gap is what like 10 years, 10 years. Yeah. So she was like 10 when your little sister was a baby. So it kind of like take care of her a little bit. Like, yeah, like feed her and like change her. Like, and now she's like, that was 20 years ago. Oh my God. So it's like no.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Yeah. It's one of those. If you don't use it, you lose it. Things, I guess. Yeah. And I'm sure you, I mean, you kind of figured out as you go. I think a lot of things, but yeah, it's just scary though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Like, oh, he just figured out as you go. It's like, well, what if I fuck up? Then it's the little baby's dead. Like kids die so easily. Yeah. Like the kids literally die so easily. Yeah. They're just little, little nuggets.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Actually, that reminds me of not the dying part, but the just like not knowing what you're doing. So then when I think of like the dads. Yeah. Like, I know someone who like just had a baby and then he's like, he's like, I don't know. No idea what I'm doing. Like, not a clue.
Starting point is 01:32:18 And then I try to ask questions and then it's like the mom is like, what do you mean? How do you not know that? And then it's like, but it's like things that you wouldn't know unless you had a baby. And then it's like, but if you don't know it and then you like do something wrong or whatever. And so he like went to go feed the baby and all the bottles in
Starting point is 01:32:38 the fridge. So fed the baby a bottle of milk and she was like, well, did you warm it up? He was like, wait, I'm supposed to warm it up. Like I drink cold milk. So like, I just assumed the baby would. Can like anything happen if you do give a baby cold milk? Like, I feel like for, I, it's not common sense though that like
Starting point is 01:32:58 you should warm up a bottle. No, I've had a lot of classes on stuff and I've never talked about this when you know, when you have a baby or you know, you know, like things like that. It seems like common sense, but it's not. Yeah. Um, according to Google and health line, is it safe to feed babies cold milk?
Starting point is 01:33:24 Yes. It's safe to feed your baby cold milk. In fact, frozen breast milk can be used as a form of pain relief for teething babies. And I've seen that. I've seen breast milk popsicles. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Yeah. And a lot of people will, um, they'll save their breast milk and if your baby has like a rash or eczema, if you pour it in the bath, their skin clears up. Really? Yeah. Breast milk is like heals everything. It's magical.
Starting point is 01:33:53 And like, it's crazy. Literally your boobs know sounds so weird, but if you're breastfeeding your body, your boobs, whatever, all the mechanisms within that system, they know if your baby is sick. So it'll actually change your breast milk to provide more antibodies and different things for the baby. So normal breast milk is like more like opaque, like white. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:17 But if your baby is sick, your breast milk could turn bright yellow. Yeah. Well, no, it's good for that's good. But I'd be scared if I saw like, if I didn't know that, that's like, how do you learn all this and then like bright yellow comes out of you? Yeah. Oh my God. Let me see if I can find a picture for you.
Starting point is 01:34:35 It's so crazy. It's, but it just proves like how magical women's bodies are. Like to be able to grow another person inside of you, it's just insane. And then your body can do this. This is the breast milk color differences, like white, normal looking cow milk to yellow when your baby's sick. Oh, it like looks like, like mucus. It looks like butter.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Oh yeah. Or butter. Stick of butter. I guess that sounds better than like mucus. I thought pus out first or like a chunk of fat. It looks like a bag of fat. I thought pus out first. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Crows. Not good. Not good. Ew. Yeah. Like I feel like you was like freak out if you saw that and you didn't know what. If you didn't know, I'd be like, Oh my God, something's wrong with me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I have a clot. Yeah. Is this duct infection? I would think it was infected. I would think something's like infected in my boob. Yeah. Mastitis or whatever. Have you seen them suck out the big milk clots out of boobs?
Starting point is 01:35:33 No. Yeah. It's a milk duck. Don't look it up. I don't think I want to look. It's not that bad. Jordan and I last night, when we got back from the hockey game, also started Googling face presenting babies after birth.
Starting point is 01:35:46 And I didn't know that was a thing. Like you hear about breech babies. You hear about all this like other stuff, but face presenting babies is probably the scariest thing I've seen. Yeah. Like that is, it's bad guys. The more I hear about this child birth in general is like. This is a duct, a clogged duct.
Starting point is 01:36:04 I want to know that. That came out of their nipple. That can happen. Is that like hard? Is it like? It looks like it's squishy, but it apparently it just hurts. Like cause it's in, it's in your, your duct. And so it has to come out.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Apparently some people's husbands will suck it out for them. Ew. I'm for sure. If this happens to me, I'm like, Justin, you have to do it. You have to experience some pain and grossness. Oh my God. It's like sucking the boogers out of the nose. I feel like the little suction thing.
Starting point is 01:36:37 No, there's ones with a straw and you have to like suck it. No, that's worse than this. Like sucking the boogers out of your baby's nose. That's, that's, that's worse than this. The boob clog. I think there's a little pump too, where you can put it on your boob and like pump it out. It's both like, but they're big.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Like some of these are really big. Like what the hell? Looks like a little mouse in the hand. It, that one is the size of a mouse. That's disgusting. It's pretty bad. Women go through a lot giving birth and birth givers. I should say.
Starting point is 01:37:15 And no one talks about it, which honestly, I think the more I learn about, um, childbirth and everything that comes with having a baby makes me not want to have a baby. But some people just like, they crush it. Some people like have amazing births where they're like, I want to do it again. I'm ready. Put me back in coach.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Yeah. Put me in. I mean, that sounds great, but the last few friends and stuff, I'm like, I know our friend Kate just had a baby and like, I didn't know her experience was like that. And I'm just like, Oh, fuck. And then it's just like all the recovery after and everything
Starting point is 01:37:57 I keep hearing too about just like pregnancy and childbirth and everything, like having the kids after the fact. I mean, that's hard. That seems easy in comparison, but just like making the baby and then recovering from making the baby is like, like, how do people work? Like Rihanna's up on the stage like dancing, she's pregnant and like now, now everything that I just know about like all
Starting point is 01:38:20 the like side effects and stuff that are like different symptoms people have like, I just want to lay on the couch. I'm pregnant. Like I don't want to do anything. Nope. I don't want to work. I don't want to have to like go on with my day to day life. Like, I barely want to work out and do things now.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Me pregnant. I'm going to be a nightmare. That's two humans like that are, yeah. Yeah. And I'm nauseous on a daily basis as it is. Yeah. So morning sickness. Oh, and my sister's like, it's not morning.
Starting point is 01:38:51 It's either all day or like hers is at night. Oh my God. Yeah. And I feel like nausea is the worst pain. Like I'd rather have like a some other pain than nausea. I think is the worst by far. Like I can deal with pain. I can't deal with nausea.
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Starting point is 01:40:57 problems. So I haven't read this one at all. I have no idea what we're getting into, but veganism has been like a hot topic on Reddit lately. Like as it being bad. Just like there's a story I read. Debating it. Yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 01:41:11 I read a story with Alejandra recently and it was his mom who was having an alternative reception to her daughter's wedding. So her daughter's was getting married, having a wedding reception and the mom was mad that her daughter was having a vegan and alcohol-free wedding. So she was going to have her own reception without her daughter for guests after.
Starting point is 01:41:33 And it's like what you can't just have one day where you maybe try some vegan food. Right. I mean, that sounds kind of miserable, but Jordan's a hater. No, I mean, just I feel like there's so many vegan foods. Like I could do that. Yeah. But alcohol-free wedding.
Starting point is 01:41:51 That's where you draw the line. The reception. But yeah, it's not, it's someone else's day. Like you could suck it out for one day. Yeah, I agree. So this one was posted about three hours ago. It's a very new, very new. And it's got almost 2.6K uploads so far.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Okay. Am I the asshole for no longer accommodating my friend's vegan lifestyle? My husband, 33 male and I, 28 female, are part of a friend group of four couples. Once a month, one couple hosts a dinner party. One of the women in the group, A, 30s, is vegan. And this has never been a problem.
Starting point is 01:42:35 When it is their turn to host, they serve vegan food. When it's our turn to host, I usually make her a vegan version of the meal I make for everyone else. She has always been grateful for the fact that I do my best to make her feel included. Last time they hosted a dinner, the meal had soy sauce in it. I am very allergic to soy. So I get there.
Starting point is 01:42:57 She tells me the meal has soy in it. Everyone knows I am allergic to it. Then she hands me a takeout menu and tells me to order something for myself. I found this extremely rude. Since I go the extra mile for her to have almost the same meal and she couldn't even whip up a stir fry without soy sauce for me.
Starting point is 01:43:18 I didn't say anything because I didn't want to spoil the mood. The next day I sent her a text and told her that I felt a bit hurt that she did not try to accommodate my allergy when I do the same for her chosen lifestyle. She replied and told me that she doesn't have to accommodate me. All she has to do is provide me a meal, which she did. So I decided fair is fair.
Starting point is 01:43:42 I will no longer be making a whole different meal for her anymore. Last Saturday was our turn to host the dinner. I made steak, mashed potatoes, bacon wrapped asparagus and a triple chocolate cake for dessert. Oh my God. That would be like my like last meal. Like if I could have one last meal.
Starting point is 01:44:02 I sounds amazing. Oh my God. I'm not even a big red meat eater and I'm like my mouth. I'm so hungry. My mouth is watering. Okay. Sorry. This is about vegan.
Starting point is 01:44:11 When they when they arrived, I handed her a menu. To a vegan restaurant and told her to choose her meal. She was shocked. Usually I would have made her some grilled mushrooms, vegan mashed potatoes and roasted asparagus and a vegan chocolate cake. She was pouty the whole evening and not a separate chocolate cake too.
Starting point is 01:44:36 That's insane. That is so much extra work for one person. That's a lot of work. Oh my God. Whole extra dessert and everything too. Uh-huh. Her husband ended up telling my husband that what I did was very petty and it made her feel extremely excluded since I
Starting point is 01:44:54 was usually the only one who made her feel included during these dinners. My husband just told him my wife treated your wife how she treated her. Now they are calling me a petty asshole. So am I the asshole? No, I know the fact that she's just like handy to take out my menu after she like making totally separate meals.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Like, I mean, I don't cook either. So that's like cooking the first meal and then cooking a whole separate thing for one person is. Yeah. That's like so thoughtful and like and then to like have it reciprocated as here. Here's a menu. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Or something. I have a menu like I'd be pissed. Yeah. I love that she did this. I think fair is fair. Yeah. Like I'm going to treat you how you treat me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:53 It reminds me of the saying don't bite the hand that feeds you. Yeah. And this is quite literally don't bite the hand that feeds you. Yeah. This is the only person that made you feel included and you want to exclude her by adding soy sauce.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Do you know how easy it is to just scoop a little bit of that stir fry out as you're cooking and put it in its own little pan without soy sauce? You don't even have to make a different meal. Not like this person does. Yeah. It's the same meal. Just don't put the sauce on it.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Sauce on the side and then it's like. Yeah. It's harder to order the takeout. It is quite literally harder and more money to order the takeout. Yeah. Get it together lady. Pull yourself together.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Yeah. What is it? One more time. I need a prop. You need a prop. I need a prop. You need a prop and then you'll have it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:52 And it's different. Okay. Vegan is usually a choice and allergic is not a choice. So she doesn't have a choice if she wants to eat soy sauce or not. It's like if she's allergic to soy sauce, she's not going to she can't eat soy sauce. Like yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:08 But if vegan is usually a choice, I mean it is a choice, right? Like so a lot of times. Yeah. There's some diet, like some health conditions where it's like it's better for you to be vegan, but but it's still a lot of times it's a choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:22 So it's and that's a lot of like like vegetarian. Okay. Then you know substitute something for if it's like a meat entree or whatever, but vegan that's to make a whole separate entree or make a whole separate meal. That's like vegan would be hard and to make it the same thing that they're already eating to that's the thing. It wasn't just like it's another vegan meal.
Starting point is 01:47:48 It's a whole vegan version of what everyone else is eating to make it feel special and inclusive, which is amazing that you did that like amazing. That's a really good friend. Yeah. A really good friend. Yeah. I feel like the other girls.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Yeah. She's off her rocker. Yeah. Off her rocker. And the husband to like, oh, that was petty. It's like, did you not think the soy sauce thing was an issue and also yeah, soy sauce is great. I love it with some good sushi, some soybeans at a mom
Starting point is 01:48:19 a whatever, but like there's a spicy chili sauce. She could have done teriyaki is great and teriyaki is better anyway. Like I don't know if teriyaki has soy in it, but like there's a but what might it might, but it might not. It might not. Honestly, I'm kind of food illiterate a lot of times, but there's so many other sauces.
Starting point is 01:48:37 She could have picked for a stir fry. Yeah. It's the most basic thing to cook. Honestly, I think I think unless you're like hand chopping the carrots, hand chopping the broccoli, like, I don't know. I just buy the stir fry kids and pour it in a pan. Same like it's frozen meals. It's so easy.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Yeah. And just yeah. Why do this to a friend? I don't know if it's like vegetarian and vegan. I mean, they're like more popular now. You know, like every restaurant offers vegan vegetarian options. Like, so I don't know if it now it's just like, oh, it's like, yeah, you should accommodate me for being vegan because
Starting point is 01:49:16 that's just how it is now. Like that's just, there's so many people that do it, but that was a great friend that did that. And then you went and ruined it. Yeah. Like it seems like she was just not grateful that her friend did that for her or didn't realize the like, yeah, I didn't even realize that like kind of just like, oh, yes,
Starting point is 01:49:37 she should make me a vegan meal because I'm vegan. Like, but almost entitled to it. Yeah. I could see that. I mean, every restaurant and stuff you go to now, everyone has to ask like, what are your dietary things? Like, yeah, everyone has something, something, whether it's like they choose it or they're allergic to it or it's just
Starting point is 01:49:58 yeah, which whatever, however, like whatever you want to eat, but to make everyone else also like accommodate for you. And then you're not going to accommodate for other people's the doubles, the hypocrisy, the double standard. Yeah. That's what's really, I think frustrating and I think, I think OP is totally fair in what they did, not the asshole at all.
Starting point is 01:50:21 The top comment on this one is not the asshole. I don't even think it was petty. The friend was rude, especially in the text after the meal where she provided you a menu. That was her opportunity to apologize and say, yeah, I see what you mean. I always appreciate that you take the time to make sure the meal works for me.
Starting point is 01:50:40 I'll do better next time. Sorry for being a jerk. She dropped the ball, which is true. I kind of forgot that OP our writer even confronted the friend and was like, Hey, I was kind of hurt by that. Wait, and then what did the other girl do? The friend was like, I don't have to accommodate you. I just have to provide you a meal.
Starting point is 01:50:58 I forgot about the text exchange. Totally forgot about it. This girl's rude as fuck. I would just like, okay, next dinner party, whatever. It's like, yep, menu. Like, yeah, that's, and that's, that's what you get. That's exactly what she did. Yeah, I love it.
Starting point is 01:51:15 I love this. This is a good one. This is satisfying. Yeah, I should have saved this. I have another theme coming up called like karmic justice or like instant karma. This is instant karma. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:27 This is so good. Yeah. OP response to that comment. And they go, honestly, if she had apologized, I would have forgiven and forgotten her doubling down. That's the reason I chose to stop going above and beyond for her. And I would too. Like when someone like that's a slap in the face.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Yeah, you didn't appreciate anything I did for you. Didn't notice maybe like didn't like it was expected almost. And yeah. There's actually a lot of comments from OP on this one. Someone goes, not the asshole equal treatment. Just make sure you do the same for any other friend that might have a dietary restriction. It would be the asshole if you only treated her like that.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Perhaps have the group come up with rules for dinners that everyone knows about ahead of time regarding meals and restrictions. And OP goes, except for her being vegan and me having a soy allergy. No one else has any dietary restrictions. So it's literally just the two of them. Yeah. I wonder if OP did something and like doesn't even know that this friend is mad at her or just like the friend is jealous of her.
Starting point is 01:52:33 So started doing this and it's not even anything OP necessarily did. But like something seems off because out of all the meals you could choose to make for this one. And if everyone knows the dietary restrictions, it feels intentional. Like there's two. It's like, that's it. Yeah. So now I'm starting to think that this girl is jealous or insecure.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Like the soy sauce was on purpose. Yeah. Because how many other meals can you make? How many other recipes are out there in the world? Right. Like and you picked a soy sauce. Yeah. This is intentional.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Yeah. This is intentional. Yeah, there's some backstory. What's the backstory to this? Like someone goes, not the asshole. So what are you going to do when they host again and the meal contains vats of soy, which smart money says it will. I'm not sure if I would tell her you're done with the pissing match
Starting point is 01:53:27 and just leave or march out to the car and retrieve a bloody steak dinner you picked up on the way there. I know because I would order pizza and wings. That would become my pizza and wings night. That'd be kind of funny if she just like showed up to the dinner with like a pizza or likes that like brought like brought her own. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Which is so annoying. That would be annoying, but it'd be kind of funny. Like instead of like getting there and like, oh, having to order your own than just hilarious. And then if it's bad, if you bring some of that's better than whatever she cooked and everyone wants that instead. Yeah. I could see that just like smells so good.
Starting point is 01:54:01 I could see that. Someone just have another question about like, I'm also curious how the lone vegan lasted this long with no one accommodating her food restrictions. Did the other folks make her order take out prior to this event? Did she just not eat or did she only give the option of a side veggie? Oh yeah. Wait, cause how it's like four couples.
Starting point is 01:54:23 So four different people are cooking these meals. Yeah. So what about the other? Yeah. Like. So OP goes they usually ordered her a meal from a restaurant before she arrived or made a salad and vegan sides. I was the only one who made sure that there was a vegan version of the
Starting point is 01:54:39 meal I cooked like making a little lentil burger patty. If I was making burgers for everyone or a vegan butter chicken. So she can have almost the same meal as everyone else. I mean, I think she just went above and beyond, which is amazing, but maybe she just, maybe she just like did too much. And that if everyone else in the group is like, Oh, if you won't eat this, we'll just order you something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:04 So maybe she was the one that kind of she would treat her friend like this, but no one else or super case. And then she expected her friend to also treat her like that. But if in the rest of the group, if they always order meals for someone who can't eat it, then I don't, then it doesn't seem as bad when they had her order something. Yeah. It seems like she since she gives her friend the special treatment,
Starting point is 01:55:30 she expects the special treatment. I could see that just because she would treat someone that way. Does it mean that that's how everyone thinks or would that's what everyone would do in that situation. I can see that being so true. A thought also just popped into my head when you were saying that where maybe she just also has like a complete lack of awareness because everyone orders for her or orders in a meal for her that she's like, Oh, well,
Starting point is 01:55:56 like ordering takeout isn't a big deal because everyone does it for me anyways usually except the one person. So maybe she's like, Oh, we'll take out when I want soy sauce stir fry, whatever, isn't that big of a deal? Yeah. But in my head. I have such over analyzing and like so much awareness that in my head, I would recognize that this person goes above and beyond for me.
Starting point is 01:56:17 And so because of that, I'm going to ensure that what I cook, they can eat as well. Like I'm going to make sure that it doesn't have soy sauce because of all that effort and care and love and generosity. I can also see how her side though now from like the source that just kind of like, yeah, like every whenever I go to a dinner, my order or my meal is always ordered. So if she like, it's no big deal.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Like I want to make the soy, the stir fry with soy sauce. So we'll just order her meal. No big deal. But obviously from like her perspective, it's like totally bashing her for just for not accommodating. Yeah. But I can see how it's like, Oh, but this is just like, it's no big deal. Like this is what I, that's what happens when I go to a dinner party.
Starting point is 01:57:07 I think that's, that's probably true. Yeah. And then I think like she goes above and beyond, but you can't really expect people to treat you the same way that you treat people. That is true. Unfortunately. You can, you know, do amazing things for some, but that doesn't mean they're going to do the same things back to you.
Starting point is 01:57:25 Well, it's almost like a gift. Like just because you give someone a gift, you shouldn't expect it back. Yes. And that's kind of this vibe. I do. I feel like it's like an expecting kind of convincing me. I'm like, but I don't, but I don't think she's, I don't think our writer is still the asshole, but I do think where it's like, I think they just have different
Starting point is 01:57:45 perspectives on the situation. Yeah. Yeah. Cause one is expecting one thing and the other one is probably like no big deal. Like a hundred percent. I think, I think you nailed it. I think you nailed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Tiger. Yes. But tigers on my shit list for that tampon tobacco. Oh yeah. I just saw a woman, um, on Tik Tok today, like a newscaster, sportscaster, and she was like, Tiger's got a run. You should be passing out the tampons to the people that crush the game. That the beat the odds because women, people that have periods have to battle
Starting point is 01:58:24 through cramps and insomnia and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. Lady, you got it. I have to say when you, it's funny that you actually, um, brought that up cause so my dad, um, I don't know if golf was on or something. It was maybe on like Sunday or I don't even know what day I'm so lost with the days. Anyways, the other day, my dad was like, did you hear about the whole tiger
Starting point is 01:58:49 scandal, whatever, or he didn't say with the tampon. I was like, no, what happened? So he's telling me and he's like, everyone is like up in arms and he has to like defend himself all because like I, it's probably some inside joke, you know, like something stupid, but with, yeah, with the tampon, like how you're playing like a girl and my dad was like, and then someone, you know, wrote this big article, but, you know, everyone is just up in arms about it.
Starting point is 01:59:14 And at first I was like, like that wouldn't offend me. Like I didn't really think anything of it. I was like, yeah, people are just overreacting. Yeah. And then when I heard you talk about it and then when you, but just when you said like play like a girl and then it was like once, once you hear like once you said that, it was like, yeah, I don't like that. Like it's like you're playing like a girl.
Starting point is 01:59:38 I mean, cause it's, it's, you know, it's been said forever. It's just like a thing. Like, oh, like I hit this shot way farther than you and I'm like the old man, like you're playing like a girl. Here's your tampon. Like, and my dad was like, well, I don't get the big deal about it. And, but then as soon as you said that it was like, oof. Gives you the ick.
Starting point is 01:59:58 I think it's, it's interesting. I don't think a lot of guys get it because they don't live in the shoes of being a girl or a woman or anything like that. And it's, it's really interesting. I think a great way to describe it is looking at a trans man's perspective. And I've seen a lot of people that have transitioned and they're like, wow, is it different being a guy? I don't get sexist jokes.
Starting point is 02:00:25 I don't get massage anymore. People treat me different. It's like, like, why do why? Like, why do we have it so hard as girls and women sometimes? It's, and it's like, yeah, okay. He passed him a tampon. The big deal. Like inside joke or, oh, you're playing like a girl.
Starting point is 02:00:44 But it's like, wait, but what do you mean playing like a girl? What are you implying by playing like a girl? Yeah. So he's doing bad at that round of golf. So that's like a girl. And it's insinuating that girls are bad at, yeah. It's that insinuation and that those implications by that simple message. And it's, which I didn't think anything of it at first.
Starting point is 02:01:05 I thought, like, I thought Tiger was going to like say, I don't know, make some comment about, like, I knew it was about like women and like something. And I thought he was going to say something bad, like, call him something or, yeah, but it was just a tampon. So I was like, whatever. But then it's still, it's still insinuating the same thing. Yeah. Like the, yeah, it's like those little like messages and things that are just like
Starting point is 02:01:32 whatever, like, why would you get offended by that? But it's like, cause they're, it's just all it's just like when you keep seeing him, keep seeing him, it's just like, again and again, it's just a normal thing. Like it's just normal to, yeah. Well, and how like, we get it so much already and what does that say to like little girls that do watch golf and want to be golfers? I know.
Starting point is 02:01:53 Like women's sports is hard or it's gets no recognition. No respect. Nothing like. I think like women's NBA right now is like a great example. Yeah. Just trying to get a little more money. Like, and it's, yeah, cause you don't see it usually and it's, I didn't even know that there was a women's hockey league.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Isn't that crazy? And like, yeah. It's just not on like, I wouldn't watch. Cause you don't see it. Like I've never seen a game. I've never seen a game televised and maybe I don't have like the right channels. Like I only have basic normal TV and a cable, but I'm like, why, like,
Starting point is 02:02:31 but if you don't see it, if it's not broadcasted, if it's not like talked about, it's just whatever. I mean, it's still competition. It's still, yeah, it might not be as fast or like as, you know, can't hit as far, hit as hard or whatever. But it's like, I mean, even just like the soccer games and stuff. It's like, you watch it and it's like, it's entertaining. And it's like, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Like, I mean, if you compare it to the men's game, the men's game is a little faster, but it's still like, it's just cause it's not ever broadcasted. You never see it. So then you just, I think of like U of M too. I think of the hockey teams, the women's hockey teams, like dynasty, like one the national championship, how many years in a row? So, so many. And like, I didn't even go to a game.
Starting point is 02:03:25 Nope. And I like feel bad, like. I know, why didn't we? Who should have gone? I don't know. Like they couldn't, I mean, they got fans, but. But I didn't know. I didn't ever like even in college, I didn't hear when they were.
Starting point is 02:03:35 No. Like I couldn't tell you like the men's games Friday and Saturday. Oh yeah. I don't know when. It was always packed. Women's wear. Team was always horrible. Like.
Starting point is 02:03:44 They were pretty okay one year. I mean, but it was like, but the women's team was so much better. Incredible. But people didn't go. It's always these excuses. Yeah. And even interviewers, people that are supposed to know these sports. I saw an interview of a guy playing a tennis player.
Starting point is 02:03:59 I saw that too. And he was like, he was like, how does it feel to be like the first USA player to win two blah, blah, blah, blah. And he was, he was like, well, Serena Williams did it first. Yeah. First male player. Yeah. I'm like, good for you.
Starting point is 02:04:12 Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I saw those sports like that. Like golf. Like, okay. Yeah. The women's teas are going to be up hot, like closer to the tea because we have like,
Starting point is 02:04:24 we're smaller. We have less muscle. Like obviously we can't hit it as far as you, but the short game. Like that's the, it's the same. I know. Putting, chipping, things like that. Like guys don't really have any advantage over girls in terms of like, cause it's not like hitting harder or farther, farther or anything.
Starting point is 02:04:44 I would love to see that. It's really just the first drive. And then. I would love to see a co-ed golf tournament where it's just like handicapped appropriately. Like the women are up on the further tee box. Yeah. I would actually love to see that and see in terms of like, Do they do that?
Starting point is 02:04:59 I don't know. We need to look it up. And I've seen like the tournament where it's like with the celebrities and a golfer. You know, the like father, like father son or like father, daughter, mother, son, like things like that. And there was a couple of girls in that. Okay. That's cool.
Starting point is 02:05:19 That's cute. That's really cool. But there's like two or something, but, but they're in there. They're in there. We're trying. We're trying just, just like all the people in these stories today, these professional sports leagues and Tiger Woods, pull yourself together. God, but thank you for joining me.
Starting point is 02:05:40 Thanks for having me. This was so good. It was fun. I love, I love my little trips to Chicago to visit you. Yeah. I love when you come visit. I know I'm an easy guess, I hope, except all my mess that I have here and everything. But it's getting dark and I'm like, Oh, I have to go to the airport.
Starting point is 02:05:56 I wonder if my flight is still on time or if it's been canceled yet. Okay. I was also just thinking to kind of scared. Um, so with my like my new job offer. Yeah. Jordan got a new job today. Morgan was the first person that texted me the job. Like literally, I think like she literally texted me the job.
Starting point is 02:06:16 I was like, Oh my God, you'd be perfect for this. I saw it. And I was like, yes. And I was like, I'm not qualified for this. And then I thought about it and like applied and I got off the job. But like, yeah, so thank you. Yeah. Congratulations.
Starting point is 02:06:30 Literally the first person that sent me it. You deserve it. You're so talented. So, so good at what you do. You're going to be great at this job and just you're the perfect fit. They're lucky. I'm excited. Lucky to have you.
Starting point is 02:06:42 Well, I'm lucky to have a friend that like literally like, Oh, oh my God. Like I don't even like looking for jobs myself. And then like you saw it and was like, I love it. I love it. So thank you. You're welcome. Such a supportive friend. I think, well, I think it's just some more of the story of like, you might feel under
Starting point is 02:06:58 qualified, but Jordan was their most qualified candidate. So believe in yourself. Okay. I don't think I have any other messages. There will probably be a Patreon story from this episode. So head over to Patreon. But other than that, until next time. Bye.
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