Two Hot Takes - 130: Patience Failed to Load..

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Alejandra! This weeks stories have us wondering if a little more patience would have helped the people in these stories.. or maybe they had too m...uch patience and enough is enough.. Now that you're here, you can help us decide! Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Bonus Content on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Our SubReddit to Submit YOUR Stories!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Partners: Vacation Friends 2: https://www.hulu.com/movie/vacation-friends-2-2de551ad-c025-46e6-a7f9-ed9a37852215?entity_id=2de551ad-c025-46e6-a7f9-ed9a37852215 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMUu-ag9ofk Skims: Skims.com -- After you place your order, select "podcast" in the survey and select our show in the dropdown menu that follows :)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just your reminder to subscribe. Thanks guys. Okay. I think we have a, I'm losing my mind today, which is perfect for this theme. I just have had like a series of unfortunate events. I feel like this week that have made life just like so stressful and crazy that I feel like I don't have any patience. None. It's, I don't know where it went. It's gone. It's not loading. Air doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Okay. So how's your week going? Pretty good. You know, I am, so the ironic theme because I actually have a lot of patience for the bullshit. Um, how? What's the secret? My dad, my dad is the most patient man I've ever met in my life. I think he just taught me patience.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Like I can have my moments of impatience for sure, but like all things considered, I think I'm one of the more patient people I know. Yeah. Certain things don't have that. I don't know, but otherwise, I mean, I don't know. I really don't know. I just grace. Like, I just give things some grace.
Starting point is 00:01:10 You know, I need to learn. I'll go things take time, baby. I get with certain things. I guess it's just, I don't have patience for disruption. When someone says, I'm going to be there at 4 p.m. And then at 3.45, it's like, hey, it won't be making it. And I'm like, I went out of my way. That's not what I would, I don't,
Starting point is 00:01:30 I guess that is a form of patience, but that's not what I think of when I hear the word patience. Like, for me, that's one thing I don't have patience for. If you just fret my schedule or ineptionist, I've talked about this on another episode. If you say you're gonna do something and you're like proving to be inept at it, I lose my patience, that's one of the quick ways
Starting point is 00:01:47 to lose my patients. But when I think of patients, I think of just like giving things time and understanding that like, it might not be right the first time and having to kind of like go with it a little bit, that's where I have a lot of patients. But like not like when someone says
Starting point is 00:02:03 they're gonna do something and don't do it, I don't have a lot of patience for that. This is gonna be the perfect theme for you. Is it? I can feel it. Okay. Which, by the way, hi guys. Welcome back to another episode of Two Hot Takes. I can't even talk. I'm so anxious. I forgot how to do this.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I'm your host Morgan. I'm Alejandra. The people call me Aale. I'm getting introduced a lot as Aale lately. Okay. I like that. I think lot as ALE lately. Okay. I think it's time for a rebrand. Just kidding. Just kidding. I'm not going to do that to everyone. But I do go by ALE.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So. Yeah. It's been a thing for a while. Yeah. It has. Okay. Well, let's dive in. Let's do it. So this first one, it is 3 months old.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It's been out there for a minute. But it is titled, Am I the asshole for refusing to listen to my mother-in-law's speech on my wedding. So I hate speeches. I never understood the appeal. I think they are boring, exhausting, and very, very forced. What? But having said that, this is just my opinion and I never forced it on anyone. I have sat through long, excruciating speeches without complaining, like any other decent human being. When it was my turn to get married, however, I requested no speeches. We wrote that we loved everyone and that we knew they loved us, so if you wanted to say
Starting point is 00:03:42 something, say it directly to us in private. My husband thought it was funny, but he knew my feelings about speeches. We had a small wedding with only loved ones, a weekend long. My husband loves games, so the wedding planner did a really great task master type of game and everyone appreciated it.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Dinner came and mother-in-law stood up and started by saying, quote, I know we are forbidden to make speeches by the bride, but this is my only son getting married, so I will say what I want to. No, the fuck you all. I didn't hear the rest because I was seen red. My sisters and bridesmaids were shocked. I pretended like she wasn't talking and continued my conversation with my girls. Oh my god. They did the same.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Oh my god. Mother-in-law was furious. Both sister-in-law's were furious and my husband was very angry that it showed in his profile. He refused to even look at me. The rest of the night was awkward. The rest of your wedding night was awkward? My husband's side was sulking in their seats. I wanted to make sure it wasn't ruined for the
Starting point is 00:04:51 rest of us and we ended up having a blast. Next day, I spent it with my family and friends. My husband said that I was very wrong in what I did. I couldn't force mother-in-law to shut the fuck up and he knew she wouldn't no matter how much we told her. I shouldn't have disrespected and humiliated her like this. Our marriage started on the wrong foot it seems. Am I the asshole? Damn. Ah! Remember the theme is patience to have or not to have. It's just hard because everyone would handle this so differently.
Starting point is 00:05:25 What do you think? I think this is one of those moments where everyone involved could have communicated better. Like the husband already knew his mom, my mom's not gonna not make a speech. Tell your wife that. You think so? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:40 People go rogue. Yeah. People have one too many tequila shots. I think that is true, but they're like, I want to kill a shot away from freaking the rules. Like, yeah, but Opie says here, my husband said I was very wrong in what I did. He knew she wouldn't, no matter how much we told her.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Like, she was gonna make the speech, no matter what, he already knew that. Yeah. So why not say, hey, did, but maybe he did. Maybe in the bride just didn't want to hear it. Yeah, right. Or maybe she was just like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. We don't know. We don, hey, but maybe he did. Maybe, and the bride just didn't want to hear it. Right, or maybe she was just like, okay, you know, we don't know. We don't know, but I can't push blame on the, he did, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:06:11 he didn't force her to make his speech. Yeah, well, and so there is like a little PS, mother-in-law loves making speeches, sometimes 15 minutes long and not usually mean speeches. Disguised as humor that often isn't appreciated at all by the speak E. Wait, okay. And not usually. I think they kind of have some labels. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah, and usually mean speeches disguised as humor. Okay. Also, like a 15 minute long speech. A fifth, that's a monologue. That's a TED talk. that's a monologue. That's a TED talk. That's a manifesto. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That's a lot. So I get not wanting any speeches and she should have been respected. I don't know because I think you do have times in your life where you can bite the bullet, have a little patience. Okay. If it were me, I'd be annoyed, but I would be respectful. I think knowing both of us, we would bite our tongues and sit there and listen. For sure. Well, first of all, I love speeches.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So this would never be me. I would love it. I would sit there and like be like more speech, you know, like I look like that's my favorite part of the wedding. Yeah. But if I didn't want speeches and this happened or whatever it was, let's speeches is the subject. It could be anything, right? They just do something that you specifically said you didn't want on your wedding day. I would be for sure annoyed, have a conversation later, but I would bite the,
Starting point is 00:07:38 I would bite the tongue smile and wave. Look gracious. Yeah. And we know what it is. What it is. It is what it is. It's a day meant to wedding recently and there were some not great speeches. You just sit there and enjoy your wine. Like, pick out a piece of cake.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I don't know. Like, it doesn't have to be a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake.
Starting point is 00:08:01 It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. It's not a piece of cake. and there were some not great speeches. You just sit there and enjoy your wine. Like pick out a piece of cake, I don't know. Like it doesn't have to be like, I'm zoned in and listening to every word. Like, you can have a, I don't know, get drunk.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I got out of the bathroom. I did get really one time there was a speech that was really easily 15 minutes. Yeah. And not good. Getting awkward, getting political, way off topic. Yeah, it was weird. And I pretty sure I blocked out during speech.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Sometimes you just, I literally just was like chugging my wings. I was like, oh my god, it needs to be over. It needs to be over. And it wasn't. And I just kept drinking. And I'm not kidding. That's like literally when I think of that wedding, like I don't, it needs to be over. It needs to be over. And it wasn't. And I just kept drinking. And I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:08:45 That's like literally when I think of that wedding, like I don't, it's fuzzy after that. Yeah. Oh my God. So anyway, try that one. Do what you want during this meeting. I mean, have a drink. Download Yachtsy or June's journey on your phone.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Go to the bathroom. Reapply some lip liner. Go get a drink at the bar. Go fix your dress. A little hard. A little hard when you're the bride and you kind of have to look. Oh, oh, we get a drink at the bar. Go fix your dress. A little hard. A little hard when you're the bride and you kind of have to look. Oh, oh, we're talking about from the outside.
Starting point is 00:09:09 No, in general, in general. She had more limited options for sure. As a bride. I don't know. Play Futsi with your partner next to you. Yeah. Give him a hand job under the table. Start dreaming about your honeymoon
Starting point is 00:09:23 and like look at your, the person giving these to you. I don't know. Like, you just job under the table. Start dreaming about your honeymoon, but look at the person giving these things. I don't know. You just got a grin at me at some time. There are worse things in life. There are worse things in life. They have to sit there. Yeah. This is one where no patience and maybe she should have had some.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I just think also, I mean, one thing that we should maybe ignore is that this is now your family and you are marrying into this family and why start off on a negative tone. Like you know, you're an adult, you know that ignoring and blatantly tuning out somebody's speech and having a sidebar conversation is disrespectful regardless of the context. It's just a mean thing to do. It's a petty thing to do. Why start off your marriage and your new family like that? Well, in the husband was so mad at her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Like, she didn't even hang out with him the next day. She hung out with her family and friends. And I think if I were in the husband's position, I think I'd be mad too. Yeah. If my mom did that, I would be like, listen, I'll talk to my mom because I agree your wishes were very clear and she did overstep.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. But like, come on. Like, that was, that's my mom. It's not your mom. Like, I think like the one thing he could have done is when he saw his mom go to get the mic, he could have gone over to her, stood by her, given her her quick one minute. I'm so excited. And then thanks mom, yank the mic. He could have gone over to her, stood by her, given her her quick one minute.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I'm so excited. And then thanks, mom, yank the mic. Like there's something she could have done to. Oh, for sure. But I mean, this does happen. I think about my brother's wedding. My grandma got so drunk, she gave an impromptu speech. That was a good. It was so good. Oh, nice. So good. I love her. She's like literally my favorite human. That's amazing. So also if you want to meet my grandma, she went on my dad's podcast. Wow. Yeah, I'm trying to get her on mine, but she wasn't comfortable enough to come on mine yet. Oh, so I'm hoping the next time I'm home I can get her on now that she's like gone on my dad. Yeah, but she's such a little cutie. That's awesome. So check that episode out. I'll link it in the description on this episode,
Starting point is 00:11:30 but it was so good. I just love her. Yeah. Yeah. Um, what do you think overall vote is on this one? Well, if she's the asshole. Yeah. You know, knowing Reddit, I feel like not the asshole. You would be correct. Yeah. I just think I'm starting to get a sense for the people. For the people of Reddit. The top comment is, well, that's unfortunate that the day you got married, you found out
Starting point is 00:11:57 your husband's always going to pick his mom over you. Such disrespect from mother-in-law, not the asshole. Yeah, I got in. this is a personal thing. That's what I said. The first thing I said when I reacted was like, this is just hard because it's so personal. Some people see it as no big deal. Okay, there are worse things like.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And then some people are like, no, this is the tone of our marriage now. It's a preview into the battles I'm going to fight. I'm going to set my foot. It's just, sometimes people need to learn consequences. So husband who agreed beforehand, no speeches should have gone up and taken the mic and said, you know what, mom, we said no speeches. Please respect us. Consequence.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Like, sometimes we have to parent our parents. Totally. Like, that's just the reality a lot of us live in. So I think like that is a good point where he could have been more on her side and probably should have been. Yeah. O.P. responds to that and goes, I really hope not. He has always said his mom is stubborn, etc. And that she did what she wanted. For me, it is no problem, as long as she is willing to take the consequences of her stubbornness, I didn't know it meant that the rest of us should lay flat. Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I got it. I really do. It's tough. It would be really frustrating and you'd be like, really? You couldn't have my back on our wedding day. That is a good point. Yeah. I would be, I would, if this were me in this situation, I would be pissed at Justin for not having my back.
Starting point is 00:13:33 But I would have also been more respectful. And that is just the thing. Like, am I going to bitch in private later? Yeah. A hundred percent. A little. But also at the same time, like, hey, she gave her speech and still didn't ruin your night. You said to yourself. You have a fucking blast. Yes, so Just pick your battles agreed while sad pick your battles
Starting point is 00:13:56 Someone comments and it's got 11k upvotes big red box. So it's got awards people highlighted it whoa Your husband showed you who he actually prioritizes, and it isn't you. Expect this behavior to escalate. Kids, question mark, you know she's going to want to be in the room because, quote, it's her only son's baby, and it's her right. She's going to demand naming rights
Starting point is 00:14:19 and to move in to help. It's early enough to get an old divorce, whichever, just away from this family. Whoa, okay. If you rightfully decide you deserve someone better. I don't know about all that. I'm quick to jump to divorce, and I don't know about that serious.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah, I'm not there. I'm not there. I'm not there. Shocking for a lot of you. We're not there. Wow, patient, baby. Patience. Look at us.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Patience, Paulies. I've come so far since I started this episode. Growth. Growth. We love it. What's it called, character development? All day, every day, baby, always working. What's it like?
Starting point is 00:14:56 What's it like? To be better. No, that's to me and my, that's a little much. That's a little goofy. We really didn't a little bit. Right. This person. How did it get so many awards?
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah, whoa. If you rightfully decide you deserve someone better. Imagine, hey, why'd you guys split? Oh, so his mom gave an impromptu speech at our wedding and he didn't shut it down. I think it's time for a serious conversation about enabling your mom. But imagine I know my wedding. I know my marriage and you're like, all I really, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Really? It is interesting. I mean, for some people, maybe that's, again, context is everything. Yeah. If this was like the 100th time it's happened. Camel, straw, back. Yes, snap.
Starting point is 00:15:39 But it's like you're saying this is like, whoa, it's few and far between that this happens. Yeah. I wonder what the craziest reason someone has gotten an annulment for is. Yeah. I saw, I took talk the other day. I fell down the rabbit hole on the cake cutting sword video and I talked about it
Starting point is 00:15:59 in an episode with Lauren a little bit ago, but this guy goes crazy and like, he's cutting the cake with his bride and they both have their hands on the sword, and then all of a sudden he like starts hacking it and destroys the cake. What? Yeah, it's like the most,
Starting point is 00:16:15 he just like what happened? Destroy it for fun. Yeah, I literally just put the video in the episode because I'm editing it right now, so I can actually show you and then just keeps hacking the cake. That's really weird. And then like everyone in the episode, because I'm editing it right now, so I can actually show you. And then just keeps hacking the cake. That's really weird. And then everyone in the room gets quiet.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And like, because they're all like, they're all like, what the fuck? Do you know how expensive a wedding cake is? Especially a three tiered buttercream like that? Ooh. Fuck around with the cakes. So I did see someone do edit and goes, my ex husband did this. I got an ennullment the next day. I did see someone do at it and goes, my ex-husband did this.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I got an ennormant the next day. You're lying. swear to God. I mean, okay, so okay. I'm just putting myself in that position and I just like can't imagine. Like I can't imagine getting that far with someone for it to like crumble over that.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I think there's because of this video and something I also saw, I've seen this concept of the shut up ring and it's a proposal that comes from like nagging and being like it's time to get married, shitter get off the pot, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so it's the shut up ring. And I think sometimes people will get these shut up rings, get married and then be like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I decided to take talk lately. Huh, shut up rings. K cutting. I kind of want to learn more about shut up rings. I'm going to, how do I get on, send me some of those TikToks. I will.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I will get on that side too. Yeah, I shall. Yeah, send me them. Oh, I'm tired. I'm tired, so. It's just a wild, wild thing. But moving along, one of this week's partners is vacation friends too.
Starting point is 00:18:00 We all know that traveling rarely goes according to plan and oftentimes ends in chaos. Well, vacation friends too is no exception and this movie may be more chaotic and unhinged than any of the stories we read on this show. This movie has an amazing cast including Lil' Real Houry, Ivan Orgy, John Cena, Meredith Hagner and Steve Bouchemmy just to name a few. To give you a quick scoop on the movie, it picks up a few months after the end of vacation friends. This hilarious sequel finds newly-married couple Marcus and Emily inviting their un-inhibited
Starting point is 00:18:34 besties, Ron and Kayla to join them for a vacation, when Marcus lands an all-expenses paid trip to a Caribbean resort. But Marcus' real reason for traveling there in the first place is to actually meet with the owners of the resort to bid on a construction contract for a hotel they own back in Chicago. But when Kayla's incarcerated father Reese is released from San Quentin and shows up at the resort unannounced at the worst possible moment, things get a bit out of control. Ruining Marcus' best-laid plans and turning the vacation friends perfect trip into total chaos. Vacation Friends 2 is a movie you guys should not miss out on
Starting point is 00:19:12 and is now streaming on Hulu. The trailer is also linked in this episode's description. Get your popcorn ready guys, it's a good one. This next story is brought to you guys by Vacation Friends 2. As you just heard, vacationing with friends can be chaotic, stressful, sometimes it can end friendships even, or have you wondering why you even went on that vacation in the first place. So just think about Vacation Friends too,
Starting point is 00:19:37 and this next story and what they may have in common, and get even more excited to watch it. Now streaming on Hulu. So this next one is 25 days old. Lots of awards on it. It's coming from the username Vacation Slayer 238. It is titled Am I the asshole for Camsling Vacation? Less than 24 hours in due to my kids behavior. It's giving, I'm gonna turn this car around five.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah, isn't it? Oh my god, my mom used to threaten that non-stop. I will turn this car around. My husband and I have three kids. Nine male, eight male, and three female. The boys have been driving us crazy. They fight like cats and dogs. We've had countless talks with them
Starting point is 00:20:23 about respecting each other to no avail. I understand sibling rivalry, but it's gone to the point it's disruptive to all of us every day. I already told my husband last week, I wasn't sure if the vacation was a good idea. My husband shut me down pretty much immediately and things went ahead as planned.
Starting point is 00:20:43 First of all, the three and a half hour car ride was predictably hell. Boys fighting and riling each other up the whole time. Husband and I kept trying to reassure each other that things would be better once we got there, and they would be too excited to cause trouble. We were wrong. They had so many reminders of what not to do once we got to the rental house, so they do everything wrong from the get go. She was on the white furniture, check, running in the house, check. I turned my back for two seconds and the eight-year-old threw a box
Starting point is 00:21:17 of chalk in the pool to keep his brother from getting it. We went out to lunch and they were out of control in the restaurant. Nine male ran away from us in a strange place because he didn't get his way. We finally go to the beach and they are frankly being brats, refusing sunscreen, fighting over toys, pushing their luck repeatedly, going further and further out in the water. Then we told them to cursing. By the time we got back to the house, it was around dinner time and I was fed up. They were totally ruining it for everybody. Nothing had worked and I told my husband we needed to go home. For the reasons mentioned above, mainly that
Starting point is 00:21:56 they needed to see a real consequence. My husband still insisted it would get better. I put my foot down and told him that I didn't even want to be there at this point. So either I was leaving or we all were. He got super pissed and told me it was ridiculous and unfair to our daughter. I actually agree with him, but saw no other choice at this point. Of course, when I tell the kids, they immediately burst into tears, and are begging to stay, promising they will behave. My mother, who came with us, was also near tears. She thinks her precious grandbabies do no wrong. She argued with me too, begging me to, quote, just let it go. But I refused to budge. So we left less than 24 hours into a four day vacation.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Half the ride home was spent with them sobbing, and my husband pretty much gave me the silent treatment the whole way. My mother decided to stay behind a little longer, but then started randomly texting me about 30 minutes in, asking if I was serious. She knew I was, and told me the whole reason she came was to spend time with the kids. So I had now, quote, ruined it for everybody. And they're only little
Starting point is 00:23:13 once. Here we are the following evening and pretty much no one likes me right now except my three Are they right? Am I the asshole? Ooh. My gut is not to say no, not the asshole. This one's hot and it's going to be controversial because, I don't know, I always get really nervous to weigh out on like parenting stories because obviously I'm not a parent. So it's like hard to speak from that position. But like, I hear stories like this and I'm just, I personally wouldn't stand for that type of behavior. Hell no, these are kids from hell. Exactly. And I know it's like,
Starting point is 00:23:49 and you say that now and then you have your kids. Okay, got it, but from where I say it, like I just wouldn't deal with that. I would turn that car around for sure. Yeah, I don't care what guilt trip comes with it. My mom, and she's like, I came here to spend time with my kids, get in the car, mom, let's go.
Starting point is 00:24:04 You can spend time with them four hour drive back. Like come home, spend time with them at home. But they have not earned this vacation. Like this behavior, that's how life works. And I feel like your job as a parent, again, in my opinion, is to raise kids that are going to be good adults. And they're going to be 100%. Respectful little adults, right?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah. And so this is to enable that behavior and just let it go. In my opinion, again, is like doing them a disservice in the long run. And you're kind of just enabling this bad behavior and this bratty, entitled, selfish, misbehaved. That's really terrible.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I mean, that sounds miserable. That nothing about that sounds like a vacation for the parents. That's not a way to, that Asian picture stuff through that. Oh my gosh. No. I just have so much. Like, you made such amazing points.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And I think, I think they're the way they are because they've been enabled so much. Yeah. And so now is the time. Like, they're still young. They're nine and eight. the way they are because they've been enabled so much. And so now is the time. Like, they're still young, they're nine and eight. They're still very impressionable. This is your last shot to start instilling some respect
Starting point is 00:25:13 and some discipline in them, because once they get to like 12 years old, there's no more parenting. It becomes different. Yes, it's parenting, per se. But I've seen a lot on it where there's a difference between being a parent and super restrictive or being more of a parent that's a guide
Starting point is 00:25:32 where your kids from 12 to 18, that's their time to learn and learn from their mistakes. Not so much the parenting and you're gonna do this and not that. The formative years. Yeah. So I'm like, this is 100% reasonable. I think this is the most amazing decision.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah. What I find so funny about this is everyone saying, you're ruining this for us. Yeah. It's your fault. Yeah. She gave everyone involved a choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:59 You can stay. I cannot be here anymore. Yeah. How funny is that? Yeah. That dad didn't want a parent by himself for a weekend. Why didn't he take her up on that? Oh, Grandma, you want to spend time with them? Great.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Have a moment. You too. You too, go at it. Go at it. Yeah. So funny that they're blaming her when really they're the ones that couldn't handle the heat in the kitchen. They said, you're right.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Here's my scapegoat. I'm going to let you, you know, ruin everything, but move like, they had a choice. And they could have stuck around and hung out. She could have taken the three-year-old and had her own little vacation with the three-year-old. A great. Then it's fair for the daughter.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Oh, this is so unfair for our daughter. She's three. She's gonna have a good time anywhere. Also, it's like you're a family. Families win together, families lose together. I think it's a good lesson to teach the three-year-old two. Like, hey, we all were in this together. You know, like if everyone's not gonna get it together, it's kind of like if we can't all agree, no one gets the toy. So learn to compromise. And same with the boys, the boys need to be held accountable too. They're older. I just, when you're telling this story, I hate to sound judgmental, but I just can't help but wonder like, how does that happen?
Starting point is 00:27:10 Like genuinely, that's a question. I'm not even like trying to pass judgment. It's, yeah, how does that happen? Like, are your kids just sometimes have this behavior that you just cannot control? Or is this the result of a parenting style? Is it that you've let them get away with things that you let it go long enough to where now they've developed habits and entitlement? I don't, I genuinely don't know the answer to this
Starting point is 00:27:34 because I hear these stories and I'm like, how did this little being control you? How did this happen? I think especially I wonder that same thing because I grew up with such a disciplinary mom like I got so open my mouth I got a wooden spoon on my ass like your mom's Latina literally like my mom might as well have been Latina because she had the same Energy like yeah, oh you're gonna get the chocolate like it was that energy. I did not see a chance No, and so you didn't step out of line and And I know now, like there's a lot of research
Starting point is 00:28:07 that says like there's better methods of parenting. For sure. Like authoritative parenting is better, which is gentle, but like actually, yeah, it's good. So I get that it's different, but like, I do wonder how does it get like this? And are they just nine and eight year old boys? And that this is just how boys are at this age?
Starting point is 00:28:26 I would love for like parenting experts or like child psychologists to like chime in, please. I would love that because it's an open ended question. I genuinely have always wondered when I see it, when I witness it, when I hear about it, I'm like, how did that happen? Is that your parenting style? Are they hardwired a certain way?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like again, it's hard for me to understand because there was no room for that behavior. Like my mom had me so tight, she could shoot me a look for a public. It was a look and I knew I was about to give my ass beat if I tried anything. And I, it was enough. The look was enough for me to like, button up.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah. And like, yeah, of course there's better methods. She regrets some of it, but like, I just can't imagine being that defiant. My mom would cut that so quickly. Well, and on the flip side, how do you manage kids like this to make things a teaching moment? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I look at this situation and I think not the asshole. This is an amazing teaching moment for the boys, for the daughter as well, kids learn from modeled behavior. The daughter just got to see these consequences play out. Yes. Act bad, no vacations. So she's learning as well.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Learning experience for everyone. Totally. And if this isn't the way, then what is? What is? Or what are the alternatives? I'd love to hear, like you said, from the parenting. Oh my God. My God.
Starting point is 00:29:49 What was the right way? Like, I know I've, subjective, but I just genuinely don't know. It's hard. I'm not a parent. I don't know. If it were me, believing what I believe in my philosophies and the way that I was raised, I would have done exactly what she did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Exactly what she did. You. Exactly what she did. You are the mother of this family. You have raised these children and it is, if you decide that you want to cut a vacation so you can teach them a lesson and help guide them. And I, okay, are the kids paying for the vacation? No. Like, I'm disappointed in the husband for not having her back a little bit more, to be honest, and being a little bit more
Starting point is 00:30:27 like a fourth child pretty much. Well, and that's the point too, with him not staying. And then giving her the silence. The silent treatment. He should have supported her. Also, what lesson are you teaching your children now? You're not a united front. Just suck it up.
Starting point is 00:30:38 You can go when you get home behind closed doors be like, I'm really bummed. I really wish we could have worked out a way to stay. Babe, you had the option to stay. But in front of the kids, you support her decision. Mom has spoken. We're getting in the car. We're going home. Yeah. And I'm going to support this decision. Absolutely. I'm going to be like,
Starting point is 00:30:54 I do that. Like, you know? But like, teacher, you're showing your kids like mom and like, even dads on our side. And now you're making mom to be the enemy. Yeah. Well, and I also, I do wonder if mom would have left. How would these kids have acted? How would the trip have gone with dad and grandma? I wish that would have been the outcome here. I honestly don't know if I do wish for that
Starting point is 00:31:17 because I genuinely think that could have been so destructive. It's not even safe. Maybe, I mean, them going out into the water. Right, there's a pool. I going out into the water, right? There's a pool. I think it was the beach, which is like, there's rip currents. They took it in the chalk and the pool. The chalk was in the pool, but then I think they went to the beach as well.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And so it's like, we went to the beach and they were going further and further out in the water. There are rip tides out there. Those kids would be gone so fast. That's not to fuck around. So yeah, to your point, it could have been dangerous, but it's dad's turn to parent. True. Maybe dad's going to learn. Dad's going to fuck around and find out.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Sometimes, and I don't want the kids to get injured, but I don't know. Go put it a skies on. Kim Kardashian in the bush looking at North. I don't know, like, go put it a skies on, like Kim Kardashian in the bush, looking at North, like, I don't know what, but like, she shouldn't have to do that. But again, it's just like, I wish that in a lot of these stories, that like, the dads would just like, buck up, like, find out, you want to stay and you're gonna blame me and give me the silent treatment.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'm not making this decision, I gave you a choice. You were a participant in this. Yeah. It's almost like they forced her hand. They did. She didn't want, she didn't want to. She didn't just bake up on the wrong side of the bed and say, you know, I've decided we're going to cut this short because I feel like being mean. Yeah. She, they're out of control. That's not a vacation for anybody. No.
Starting point is 00:32:39 The top comment on this is snorts a line of birth control. I'm sorry, but like, I was like, wow. I was just recently, like maybe I'm stepping into my motherhood era wrong. I hear stories like this and I'm like, it's just so hard. Like, make me want kids because it's not a few stories I need. The next comment down is hijacking the top comment to say, mama, you should take your little one out for a girl's night out. And let dad and grandma deal with the boys or offer separate trips.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Sucks, I know, but we're trying to teach a valuable lesson here. LOL Betcha they'll be talking about implementing discipline by the time you get back at its ad holy balls. I go to bed, wake up and have almost six K likes. And my first award, Reddit never ceases to amaze me. They now have 23 K upvotes. Wow. There are no comments from OP. I don't know if we have any trial psychologists that have chimed in. I'm going to give a quick search and see. Yeah. I am curious. I don't know whenever I see these situations. I'm like, I don't know what you do. Well, there is a comment that says, absolutely, we would have backed the truck up and gone home if
Starting point is 00:33:53 this is how they behave too. My dad always would say to us, you can do anything you want. You just have to deal with the consequences. That's right. That's the way the world works. My dad has this famous little saying he loves called the O'Well Clause. You know, if you don't listen O-O-L, you're gonna have to deal with the consequences, the O-Well Clause, and this is a case of the O-Well Clause. Yeah, it's, I mean, not to sound silly, but it really is like a fucker-on-and-find-out. It's kind of like, yeah, you are free will, you can do what you want, but it doesn't mean you're going to get what you want. I don't see anyone chiming in saying there are child psychologists or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:34:35 So I don't think we have anyone yet. So if we have any listeners that could provide some insight, or that would be amazing. I'm spending a situation like this. You've been had to make this decision. Well, and all kids have meltdowns, right? All kids are going to have chaotic, crazy bad days. But like this is their life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Like this isn't a bad day of kids not listening because they're overstimulated, overwhelmed, tired, hungry, whatever. This is repetitive, bad behavior. Well, these kids are straight up, based on what they're sharing. These kids are straight up not taking you seriously. Yeah. They have no fear consequence.
Starting point is 00:35:13 They have no fear of punishment. They don't see you as an authority, Tative figure. They don't respect you. Nope. So I don't know if this is years and years of parenting and she just is like enough is enough. Or I don't know. I don't know if this is years and years of parenting and she just like is like enough is enough or I don't know if I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, I will say I um I went on like a little weekend vacation with Justin's mom's like side and she has four step children. Who are ages like 16 and three triplet boys who are all 15. They're triplet boys. I thought it was two boys, one girl. No, one girl, three boys. So the girls, the three boys are triplets and then a girl. Yeah, wow. Yeah, so they all, it's so crazy because they all have their own
Starting point is 00:35:55 each very different personalities. And even hanging out with them, you do see that, they are a little antagonistic of each other, like, one of them had a pair of goggles in the pool and the other wanted it. And the other one wasn't ready to give them up yet. So the one that wanted it literally broke them. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And so it's kind of the same thing of like throwing the box of chalk in the pool. It's like, sometimes these kids are gonna just be little shit heads. But like, okay, how do you work on? No, we're going to share with your brother. You take half the chalk, he takes half the chalk, and like, there was nothing she could have done in that moment.
Starting point is 00:36:32 She turned around and he did it. But it goes back to like those basic core principles of like teaching a child to share, to cooperate, patients. Patients, but also like teaching them deterrence, right? to share, to cooperate, patience, patience, but also teaching them deterrence, right? You want it in still a sense of responsibility in them to where the child is going to think twice. If I throw this box of chalk in the pool,
Starting point is 00:36:57 mom is going to be upset and she's going to take something away and no one's gonna win. It's like, I don't want wanna say and still fear in them, but a little bit of like deterrence. Like, yes. Okay, that's not a good idea because it's gonna end badly for me. And so, he's doing that because he's thinking,
Starting point is 00:37:15 nothing's gonna happen. Well, and something I just heard recently, and it was like a teacher talking about how teaching over the past decade has like changed drastically for her And she's like I can tell the kids that get iPads at home and the kids that don't get iPads at home the kids that get iPads are terrorists like to put it yeah Consisting yeah, and the kids that don't get iPads at home have better social skills, are more patient, are better behaved, all of these things.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And essentially, she was saying, we need to teach our kids, it's okay to be bored. Yeah, that is so true. I think we need to teach adults that. It is okay to be bored. Yeah, I think everyone can learn that lesson. It's okay to be bored. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:05 But definitely kids, because it's, you know. Also, something I just thought of in my head, I know like obviously take everything we're saying with a grain of salt because we aren't parents, but like I could be a parent tomorrow, and I would be starting with the knowledge base I have now. Right, you only know what you know, and you learn by finding out.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Yes, I love, I live and breathe by that. You only know what you know, and you don't know what you don't know. Yeah. The other day, I found out that you can't give newborns water. Yeah. Okay. Everyone's like, yeah, obviously. And I'm like, what do you mean, obviously?
Starting point is 00:38:36 Like, where's that seminar that like teaches you that, guess what? You can't feed your newborns water. Like, I'm not pregnant. Do they tell you this stuff before you leave the hospital? Because I saw, I saw, I saw, I don't think they do because I literally saw a video from someone that was like, oh, okay, so I can just take this thing home. Well, yeah, where are the instructions?
Starting point is 00:38:55 Right, maybe they do, maybe they don't. I can't speak to that, haven't been there yet. But like, from where I sit back to the, you only know what you know, how would I know that? I haven't had one. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like, it's like, wild, less shit when you have a baby.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Right, and then I'm sure you learn as you go. It's like anything else. Like, well, you didn't know this about horses? No, but then you start to ride horses and you learn, right? It's like any other thing in life. But with children, it's like, it happens so fast. Like you said, I could get pregnant tomorrow, become a mother in whatever nine months, 10 months,
Starting point is 00:39:26 pop a baby out, I can choose to read books or not, I can choose to ask for advice or not. A lot of that is self-taught. There's no government mandate that you have to learn. And then all of a sudden you have birth in the hospital. Again, I don't know. Do they give you a little pamphlet? Do they give you a little rundown?
Starting point is 00:39:43 Probably not. And then you go home and you're just... I don't know. We got a lot of people that have had kids. That way, by the way. Tell us, tell us how it goes. Do you get a tutorial? Did they show you how to change a diaper in the hospital?
Starting point is 00:39:54 How does it go? Please let us know. Yeah. We need so many responses on this story. Yeah. Let's see it. And we are opening the door for that because we are the first ones to admit that we are not Parents that we don't this is a tough one like yeah Man, it's gonna be a while my neighbor though. He came over to look at my house and
Starting point is 00:40:15 Because we're like starting a demo and he's like is this gonna be a little nursery soon? I'm like like not need to I'm soon. You can't say that shit in 2023 man We stopped doing that. Remember what's your face of Vanessa Lache? Yeah. Torn apart. You can't just start asking people when they're going to start having kids.
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Starting point is 00:42:05 select podcast in the survey, and select our show and the drop down menu that follows. Thank you. Okay, so for this next one, it was posted five days ago in AITAH, am I the asshole basically? Uh-huh. It is titled,
Starting point is 00:42:21 Am I the asshole for showing up to Guy's Night? After my husband didn't come home when he said he would. My husband has been hanging out with his guy friends every weekend for about a month. It generally doesn't bother me at all, but lately he has been saying, quote, I will be home after this beer. And that one beer turns into six, and him coming home and an Uber around 3 to 4 a.m. And well, I want to hang out with my husband.
Starting point is 00:42:48 There's never any ill blood or fighting about it. I know he needs his friends as we are currently going through a stressful time and he needs to decompress. However, when he went out on Saturday, I told him, quote, if you aren't home by 8, I'm coming to find your ass. He laughed, said he would be home by eight, and that was it. Well, by nine, he still wasn't home. I knew this was going to happen, so I planned it all out. I'd already gone to the store and picked up a 30 rack, and this is actually kind of embarrassing, but I threw on some of his
Starting point is 00:43:22 clothes, put my hair up, and put a hat on to make myself look more manly, and headed over to his buddy's house, where I knew he was. When I walked through the door, my husband starts dying laughing and bare hugs me. His buddies, I'm close to three of them, were also heavily amused and thanked me for the beer. There was no issue there. However, one of the guys that I don't know all that well live his next door and his wife came over livid at like 2am and start scolding him
Starting point is 00:43:53 about being out so late, etc, etc. They have a baby at home so it's 100% understandable. As soon as she saw me standing there, shit hit the fan even more. She started accusing him of lying about it, being guys night. I did interject and say that I actually invited myself after my own husband didn't come home when he said, but she just put her hand up to me and told her husband to get home. I thought that would be the end of it, but my husband actually got a text from this guy yesterday saying that me showing up caused serious issues in his marriage, and that next time,
Starting point is 00:44:30 he should tell me to, quote, stay the fuck home. My husband obviously laughed it off and said, it isn't my fault, there's issues in their marriage, and that he was amused by me showing up, but now I feel utterly terrible. Am I the asshole? No. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Bro. No, like that is a personal issue between them and their marriage. This clearly isn't the first time something like this has happened. I mean, I wouldn't think you would have that reaction. No, it sounds like this is kind of an issue. It sounds like this is kind of an issue for all these guys. Like they're all hanging out together
Starting point is 00:45:06 every weekend, not going home when they say they're going home. So it sounds like a group issue. And this guy that's got the new baby is 100% in the wrong. I think they all are, especially like OP's husband. Yeah. I feel like this, I take two ways. It's super funny.
Starting point is 00:45:26 She showed up dressed like a guy, case a beer, like joining boys night. Boy, nice. Yeah. Like that's super fun. But at the same time, I'm like, okay, he said he was going to be home by eight and he wasn't. And there seems to be a little disrespect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Or he was like trying to ask, like he totally, he was pushing your limits to see what he could get away with. Or like if you hold true to your word and show up. Yeah. So I'm like, I have mixed feelings a little bit. About, but that's not really the issue that question is if she's like an asshole for the costume or not.
Starting point is 00:46:00 For sure, we're not in the other marriage, right? No. No? No, no. Like, you know, so she feels bad about that. Yeah. Yeah. So, in my opinion, I mean, I agree.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And I've had a boyfriend who was like that. And it's just so annoying, because it's like, are you just testing the limits? But I guess the good news is that, at least he, you know, he's telling the truth. Like, he's not, you know, you hear of these like affairs, whether you see him in shows or movies, or you even hear about it in real life,
Starting point is 00:46:24 where they say they're staying out the boys, they come out to come home two, three hours later than they said they were going to. Low and behold, they're not at boys night. Boys night is actually some other girl taking a girl home to a hotel, whatever they're doing. Oh my God. I just saw a tick talk about this guy who texted his girlfriend like, oh, I'm going to Taylor Swift with the boys.
Starting point is 00:46:46 No, he took another girl and she's like, we've been dating for three years. Don't bring Taylor Swift into this. I would just discombobulate his shit. I would go nuts. I literally, I decided I'm going to. The fact that he took her to Taylor Swift, like he didn't just take her to a school.
Starting point is 00:47:06 It wasn't a Drake con. Well, I mean, Drake, come on, Drake's still two. But like, he did, taking her to dinner would be bad enough. But he took her to a Taylor Swift concert. Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift. That's so disrespectful. That's probably the biggest insult to injury.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah. That is terrible. But I think this happens a lot. Yeah, it does. Guys, nice. Guys, nice. It's an easy cop out. You. That is terrible. But I think this happens a lot. Yeah, it does. Guys, nice. Guys, nice. It's an easy cop out. You're like, good.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Go have fun, whatever. So I guess at least you know your man is like acting correctly. And he's with his guys. I think it's kind of cute that he's have, maybe I'm crazy, maybe I've been out of a relationship for too long. But I think it's kind of cute that they're having so much fun, that they're just like stay.
Starting point is 00:47:44 It's disrespectful, especially with the guy who's a dad to be disrespectful. I don't care how much fun you're having. Time to go home. Be a partner. Be a partner. Be a dad. Be an adult. Grow up. Go home, honey. Like whatever. Yes. But to answer this, I guess, to stay on track. I don't think she's an asshole. There's clearly vulnerabilities between that other couple's marriage. And this was maybe like the straw that broke the camel's back. Clearly she was livid. And that's an issue they need to work out. She didn't do anything wrong. I mean, she showed up to boys night uninvited, but it was a joke. It was ingest.
Starting point is 00:48:18 She knows a lot of his friends. They can all attest to the fact that she came up uninvited. The guy didn't lie about girls being there. It's like, if she doesn't want to hear it, the way she stuck her hand out, that's on her. Yeah, that was a little rude on her part. I also think the minute that that other wife showed up, he probably could have called her and like, hey, babe, if you want to, you know, bring the baby over and have a beer,
Starting point is 00:48:40 come on over. True. They're neighbors. She lives right next door. True. It's a walk away. Guys don't think like that. Why don't they? Guys don't know guys don't I'm sorry guys, but they don't think like that. Okay, this is something I constantly talk to Justin about and he gets a little pived I think it might be one of the X I give him really let's hear it, but I always say
Starting point is 00:49:01 When we're people watching or if he does something I always say when we're people watching or if he does something, I always say, you know, that's the difference between Girl Brain, Boy Brain. Yeah. Like we were at the beach the other night watching the meteor shower and a couple was walking by where our chairs are set, you know, kind of back, like in a decent spot. You have two choices. Walk directly in front of us where we we're staring, looking for the stars, or walk behind us. It's the same distance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:30 The girl decided to walk behind us. The guy didn't give a fuck if he interrupted our view. And I literally turned him in, and I go with that. It's an example. Girlbrain, boybrain. Yeah. And that does happen, or like, guys will have plans with their friends,
Starting point is 00:49:43 and their friends are bringing a girlfriend and then yeah. You're like, oh well, what are you doing tonight? And he's like, oh well, drink that six. You're highly encouraged to come and I go, it's 5.30. Literally. What? Guys don't think, guys don't think like that.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Sorry. Sorry, I know that's gonna hurt some feelings. But hey, we have a lot of people that listen with their partners. So I think it's just like, now that you're aware, like a lot of times you're not aware until you're aware. So think about this guys, like, consideration goes a long way. They just, yeah, I don't know. I, that doesn't surprise me at all.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Like, Addle, that in that moment, he didn't think to call his wife or his, yeah. Yeah. That all. I'd be more surprised if he did. Like, when men do do those things, I'm like, oh my gosh, you're so thoughtful. And it's like you're just like doing the bare minimum. Bare minimum.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I know. So there isn't like an overall vote on this one. A lot of the comments I'm seeing though are not the asshole. The top comment is it seems that your actions were deemed highly amusing by everybody, including your husband, except that one guy. And his wife, your presence there had nothing whatsoever to do with Mr. Dumbass' marital
Starting point is 00:50:54 status. That's all on him. He just lashed out at you because he got caught and is probably scared of his wife. Yeah. Not the asshole. And maybe you should dress up again and join Hubby for the next boys night. I love that move. I think it's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:51:09 However, I do think she needs to have a conversation with him. Because even though it was made into a joke, the principle is that he specifically said he was going to be home by 8 p.m. Yeah, that's where I'm at. He wasn't. So yeah, we can laugh it off, but at the same time, you're kind of downplaying it and making it into a joke, which was the off, but at the same time you're kind of Downplaying it and making it into a joke which was the point, but at the same time does it bother you or does it not because you need to be clear on where you're standing
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah, like this is funny the one time, but if this continues to happen again and again and again, it's not It's not cute and funny. It's disrespectful. Oh totally. I remember one time my boyfriend came home at 4 a.m He's gonna be home at like 10. What? How does that happen? Exactly, I was living. And the audacity this man had to be like, what's the big deal?
Starting point is 00:51:55 And I was like, you're out of your mind. Like you're actually out of your mind. Where were you for those six hours? Literally. At the party. Okay, it's cool. On the God's the party. Okay, cool. I'm like on Tuesday, I'm like, really? Nothing is open in LA until four years.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I think it was like a house party. Of course it was. How convenient for you. I know, I know. So convenient, I know. Oh my God. But yeah, I completely agree. The other comment under that is,
Starting point is 00:52:21 I bet that one guy was cool with it until his wife showed up. And I get that. Like, everyone needs space away from their partners. So her showing up the one time, yeah, I don't think I would show up every time. And yeah, decompress, you know, hang out with your friends. But okay, this is four weekends in a row. And then you say you're coming home, but you're not. And okay, we're, it's getting annoying.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Grow up. Just a little. Yeah. Okay, moving along. Yes. Okay, so this next one is two months old coming from Am I the asshole? It is titled Am I the asshole for jumping off a train before the doors closed and abandoning my pregnant wife.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Oh, what? I know the title sounds crazy. I'll try to explain this as best I can. I'm 29, and my wife is 25. She's also five months pregnant. Recently, we decided to go on holiday together, nothing fancy just to the coast, which meant we had to get a train.
Starting point is 00:53:23 We had maybe three rolling suitcases and one of those Army-style backpacks. There was no issue as we boarded the train and we sat down and put the luggage next to us. About 20 minutes into our journey, we heard an announcement over the speakers that the train was being diverted, which meant it wasn't going to stop at the station we needed anymore. As it was saying this, the train was coming to a stop at the next station. I panicked and told my wife we had to get off or we weren't going to be able to get to
Starting point is 00:53:55 where we needed. I got up and started grabbing our things and rushed off the train. I couldn't believe it when I looked around and saw she hadn't gotten off, she was trying to grab our third suitcase. I had the other two in the backpack. Oh. Unfortunately, it was too late. And even as I rushed to the doors, they closed.
Starting point is 00:54:17 My wife looked like she wanted to kill me and the train pulled away with her on it. Can't you just envision her face standing there? Yes. Like this is a movie. Yes. I can picture it. I called her to tell her to get off at the next stop and I'd get the next one and meet
Starting point is 00:54:37 her, but she was absolutely irate and told me the holiday was canceled and she was going home. To top it off, she told her family and mine and they're all furious at me for abandoning a pregnant woman on a train Headed to God knows where With a heavy suitcase. My father-in-law told me I was an idiot for what I'd done. I feel like I was in the right But my wife and family have other ideas. So Reddit, am I the asshole? Unless I'm missing something, this was an honest mistake. It's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Did he forget the third suitcase that he assumed she was going to get it? That's the gray area for me, but like, because she's pregnant. But there's only so many suitcases one can grab at a time. So I don't know what their understanding was. Like, was she responsible for that third suitcase? Was that her, like, her thing? Was, did he genuinely forget about it? And she saw it.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I like, that's where I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. But to me, this seems like a, like, just a, an honest mistake. I know he probably should have made sure she got off first. That's probably the right thing to do. In my mind, five months pregnant, he should have made sure she got off first.
Starting point is 00:55:53 But I feel like he was kind of acting under pressure and kind of just fucked up. Like did you do the right thing? No, but he kind of fucked up. I guess I'm just curious how he got so far away from the train before he realized she wasn't there What do you mean how far away? Well like Everyone handles things differently, but if this were me and I was with a partner that was like a little slower
Starting point is 00:56:16 Whether it be pregnant crutches, whatever I wouldn't get so far away from them, but how far did he get? I mean he was so far away from them. But how far did he get? I mean, he was so far that he saw by the time he got, wherever the fuck he went, he turned around, saw she was still trying to get up with the suitcase, and he ran back to try to put his hand in the door, and he didn't have enough time. Like, she was just him like getting off the train and turning around right away.
Starting point is 00:56:42 No, I think he zoomed like further than the door. Why? That's what I would like to know. If this were me and I was traveling with someone, like I said, that was a little, needed a little more time, I would get to the door and whether it's my suitcase or my body lean up against the door or block the door so it doesn't shut.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Like, those train doors don't shut if something's in the way. And the train might be trying to leave, but it's not going to leave until all of its doors are shut. They won't shut if something's in the way. And the train might be trying to leave, but it's not gonna leave until all of its doors are shut. They won't shut if someone's in the front of them. I feel like they do. No. If you have your arm in there, it's not gonna fully close and just zoom away with your arm in.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Really? Open it back up. Yeah, it hits and opens. Okay. So it's like, you have a little, like, block the door and give her some time. We're envisioning different things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:29 And we don't know. And I don't know how we know which one happened, but like, I pictured, like, because I'm picturing I was just in Europe, you know, like the train, you get off. And like, again, we don't know how much time this really was, but I'm picturing he's got all this shit off was on the landing and turned around
Starting point is 00:57:46 and she was scrambling and he was probably like, come on and then by the time she got to the door closed, I was a picture him running off 10 feet or 100 feet and then being like, oh, where are you? In my mind, I saw him getting off the train on the landing directly turning around. Pretty much, maybe getting a little further away just so he's not right there and then just turning around and being like, oh, come like a little further away just so he's not like right there
Starting point is 00:58:05 and then just turning around and being like, oh come on, come on, and then like the door closes. Post the footage. We want the footage. I want the CCTV footage. We've run the tapes. I don't know, again, like maybe this we're getting into the lost in the sauce here, but like,
Starting point is 00:58:19 I guess my overall take is that it just seems like a stupid mistake. It seems like a stupid mistake. It seems like a stupid move. Yeah, I honestly had to Google five months pregnant woman just to see the symptoms and signs because I'm like, how big is five months? Because I think even early pregnancies, you have less energy, move them slow or you're tired, moody, whatever. Five months pregnant.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Lower back pain, swollen feet, practice contractions, restless nights, moody, whatever. Five months pregnant, lower back pain, swollen feet, practice contractions, restless nights, pregnancy brain, moodyness. And then I was like, okay, well, what does it look like though? Like how big is the bump? Everyone's different. Everyone is so different.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I mean, I have a friend that didn't find out she was pregnant until six months. Exactly. She didn't have a bump. But like, a lot of the pictures have a decent bump. But this to me is like a little bit of a bump. Yeah. But like a lot of the pictures, a lot of the pictures have a decent bump. But this to me is like a little bit of a moot point. Like my cousin that I was just with is six months pregnant
Starting point is 00:59:11 and she was rolling her own suitcase on vacation just now. Yeah, no, and I'm not saying they can't. So that meant she's incapable. No, it depends, right? Like everyone symptoms are gonna be different. Maybe someone at six months is like, there's no way in hell I'm gonna drag a suitcase. That baby's pretty big at five months.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Yeah, I mean, it's not big, but that's not the question here. Like, we don't know. Like, maybe she was one of those really capable pregnant women that like, I was just trying to research for more context. Yeah, I mean, I'm like, I'm like, because I was just with someone traveling
Starting point is 00:59:39 who was six months pregnant. Yeah, you saw her for a really good picture of what like, this probably kind of looks like. Yeah. And I'm like, I saw her and like, she was fine. Like this probably kind of looks like. Yeah, and I'm like I saw her and like she was fine like she was rolling her suitcase. Yeah, she was good. Again, everyone's different. Oh my God You know so different my friend Ali is pregnant with her second baby and she's had crazy shit this time around where her placenta Kind of detached a little bit and she was bleeding and so she's like not allowed to pick up her toddler. And it's like, how do you avoid picking up a toddler?
Starting point is 01:00:08 Yeah. It's so hard, but it's like, she's still tiny, but having like those crazy symptoms, it's just like, oh, yeah, it's so nuts. But top comment on this one. You're the asshole. That's priced. Why panic over something so little?
Starting point is 01:00:25 You could have just stayed on the train and discussed with your wife what you guys were gonna do. You sound like one of those people that would reverse on the highway because you took the wrong exit. Instead of just taking the safer but longer way around. Has anyone done that? I have seen it.
Starting point is 01:00:40 You've seen people reverse on the highway. I have seen it so many times. In Los Angeles. All the time. Reverse. Yep. Like they're on the 405 and they reverse. Not the 405, the 101, 100%. Especially if there's lanes. What's the one? The 10. The 10 is one two where there's lanes on the 10 that are sometimes passed through. So it'll say exit. And then even if you're not exiting on that exit, you can still drive through and get back on the highway.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Or there's lanes that will say exit only. Okay. Very distinct difference. Okay. California Highway is all suck ass. And so I've seen people literally that like accidentally go on the exit only and go on the shoulder and reverse until they get enough to the cut across I've never seen such a thing. Oh, and I've seen someone like last minute like they're in the lane and then they go
Starting point is 01:01:31 I've seen that and then almost hit the little water. Yeah, I've seen that many many times Just miss it. I've seen like But like just miss it. Yeah, just it's not gonna kill you the reverse That is like a like your as a death sentence. Why would you do that? No, no, that is crazy. These freeways in California are violent and like, they're so dangerous out here. You take the L. You have to take the L. Like it's five more minutes.
Starting point is 01:01:54 It could well. It could be no time change. I've missed a next-it in LA. It's literally at a 18 minutes. Totally depends. Totally depends. But like, it's not worth risking your life. No, never.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I always have to remind myself, and what? Okay, I'm 20 minutes late, that sucks. Better than the alternative. Like, dad, right, or like injured or whatever, or hurt someone else. I completely agree. You have to remind yourself, like, what's the price of this weird move?
Starting point is 01:02:18 But yeah, I mean, I don't think he's like a freaking hero. I do think like he's an idiot for sure. Yeah. I just don't know if it's like, okay, like wow, you're the worst. Your terrible husband, terrible father. I don't think, no, I just, in this situation, you're the asshole.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah. The comment after that one is if it was as easy for OP's wife to get off at the next stop and take another train to meet him again, then they could have both done this and stayed together. Yeah. And then someone goes, he said he would take the next train to meet him again, then they could have both done this and stayed together. Yeah. And then someone goes, he said he would take the next train to meet her.
Starting point is 01:02:49 He still is an ass with anxiety disorder. I want to go so far to say that. I think he just... Well, that's even more. I mean, I am actually holding a little bit more empathy than if we think he has an anxiety disorder. No, and I don't. We have no idea.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I think that person's going a little far to diagnose him in this one circumstance. I think he just is a bad traveler. Yeah, maybe. And there's a lot of those people out there. Yeah. Some people just, yeah. He's giving airport dad energy where they need to show up to a flight four hours early. Not even that because that's just like that doesn't really hurt anybody. He's giving your in seat number like 27 and you're getting up and trying to like rush off the plane and like, sir, there's an order to de-planing. Please, there's not a kid. Why do people stand up right away?
Starting point is 01:03:34 I don't know. At the back of the plane. You're not gonna make this move any faster. Like there's 26 rows before you that need to grab their luggage and get off. I have seen so many people from the last row, try to get up and run up the aisle as fast as they can. I just try to do that recently.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Did you have a, I had a pee, I was panicking. Oh, I was panicking. I almost, I literally almost said to everybody, I'm so sorry I need to get off this plane right now. And I don't, you go in the plane bathroom. Because I think I was in the middle to where it was like to get to a plane, I think I was like row 14 or something,
Starting point is 01:04:03 or I'm like, oh yeah. You know, at this point, I actually get the to get to a plane. I think I was like row 14 or something. I'm like, oh yeah. You know, at this point, I actually get the frick off the plane. And I almost like I tried. And I was gonna say, you guys I'm really sorry. I just forget me. I gotta put me first. Dude, I literally had to be a flight attendant again recently
Starting point is 01:04:18 on a flight. It was so so brutal. We were, oh God, where were we going from? I think we were traveling from New York, LaGuardia to MSP, and it was, I think it was a Delta flight, because I've been flying a lot of Delta lately, but essentially, the flight was delayed, leaving LaGuardia, and over half the plane had transfers,
Starting point is 01:04:42 so they needed to race to another flight. A lot of these people only had 40 minutes. And so I told the lady next to me, I was like, oh, well, you should ask the flight attendant when she is taking your trash on a approach check, just say, hey, I have a connecting flight. Is there any way you could make an announcement to let those with connecting flights off first? Yeah. The flight attendant literally told her, no, we don't do that. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:05 It's a lie. Wow. It's so fucking easy to do. And then they get towards the end and sure enough, they do finally make an announcement because I think, again, over half the flight of transfers, like more people were asking. We park, literally everyone starts trying to get off
Starting point is 01:05:25 and the flight attendant's standing there and there's a guy yelling in the back. He's like, hey, I have a transfer. Like, can you guys sit back down? I like, I have to go, flight attendant's sitting there just watching him and literally doing nothing. Everyone starts making their way off and then the rest of the plane at the back
Starting point is 01:05:42 is like standing there like deer and headlights. No one's moving. So I literally peer over and I'm like, hey, anyone else back there have connecting flights? Yeah. No? Okay, like come on. Yeah, yeah. The flight is literally like, and everyone, everyone around me was like, thank you. Like thank you. Yeah. I wasn't like overstepping. Yeah. There was literally no one to overstep. Yeah. And everyone was like, thank you. And I'm like, it's not. Yeah. It's, but, but hey, there's a lot of crazy shit happening on planes.
Starting point is 01:06:12 There is. Flight attendants are tired. Yeah. COVID made people fucking crazy on planes. So I get it. Yeah. You see that lady trying to saran rap her seats? I don't know if I did.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Again, I need to get off. I need to see that. Take talks. Yeah, I'm on there. I don't know if I did. Again, I need to get off to see that TikTok. Yeah, I'm on there to find it. I'm on there too much. This lady paid for three seats, brought a role of Saran rap and Saran. Really? Saran raped her whole like cocoon.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Oh my gosh. It was insane. Honestly, nothing I think about this every time because I just flew back from Mexico last week. Every time I travel, nothing. And I mean, nothing in this world, this maybe is a stupid thing to say, motivates me more to be a fricking millionaire than traveling.
Starting point is 01:06:55 That is, I don't know why. Like I'm just like, I'm an ordinary person with ordinary simple wants and needs. But when I travel, I'm like, oh, I just, oh, I just hate it. I hate everything about it. That, waiting in line, it's getting stuck on planes, being told I can't pee because we're taxiing, like checking my luggage, having to have it like all of it. It's just like commercial flat.
Starting point is 01:07:18 It's just, I hate it. Nothing motivates me more. Like, hmm. That is the one area where I will always have patience. Yeah. I love traveling. Yeah. Hey, this is, we got a four hour delay coming back from Iceland.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I'm stuck in Boston for four hours. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. I love traveling for the record. Yeah. I just don't like inefficiencies. I, yeah, that's-
Starting point is 01:07:42 That's where I get killed. And that is traveling. Every flight, I've had lately has had delays. I'm like, you know what, it's cool. Like, I'm chill and I'm gonna grab a cookie. But if you've got places to be and things to do. A hundred percent, it's frustrating. It's frustrating.
Starting point is 01:07:56 But I just have this mentality of like, there's nothing I can do about this. There's nothing you can do. I'm just gonna enjoy the ride. I'll get there. If it's meant to be, I'll get there. No, it's true. There's nothing you can do.
Starting point is 01:08:04 And I've adopted that mentality too. I just like, I see now why certain people take their travel so seriously. I never understood the people who, like I've never, I've never paid for like an expensive seat or anything like I've never done that. Yeah. And I never understood it.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I'm like, we're all going the same place. Yeah. But now I kind of am like, okay, I see these efficiencies and I know that it's a privilege. I know that it's not cheap. Travel these days is not cheap. Yeah. On top of that, trying to travel in a way that's more efficient.
Starting point is 01:08:34 It costs you money. Oh, pay for priority boarding. Pay for first class or business. They never end time you every chance. Yeah, pay to select your seat. So you can get the seat that you want closer to the front. Like, it's just, oh my gosh, travel. It's the one time where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:08:48 oh, I can't I just like have a plane. I know I'll never have a plane, but like, you know what I mean? It's like that crazy delusional. You know, I mean, it's not like, to be honest, you do need money. Oh, you have need a lot of money. So you need privilege, but.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And I don't have that for the rest of my life. Well, Justin's friend Austin, he got his pilot's license and a plane for a total of, again, this is out of the question for a lot of people, but like 45 grand. Yeah, it's like a car. That's a car. That's a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:09:18 That's a down payment on a house for a lot of people. Yeah. A lot of money. But like, he doesn't have kids, he doesn't have expenses. It's like, that's the legacy. That's his thing. That's his thing. His passion. Yeah, it's of money, but like he doesn't have kids, he doesn't have expenses. It's like, that's the legacy. That's his thing. That's his thing. That's his passion.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Yeah, it's a passion project. Yeah, like it's not, and just to get your pilot license and then pay to rent a plane to be bought one. What were you, could you fly that anywhere? Yeah, I could be like, I'm going to Minnesota in my plane. Really? Yeah. What about like, what about like,
Starting point is 01:09:41 may take you longer? Can't go on. But yeah. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah. He is limited by distance. So like, he couldn't find his plane across the ocean to Hawaii.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Because of his oil. Because of gas. OK, gas. But he got jet fuel. But he got extra taste. Because it was cool. Me not knowing I'll plane what. Yeah. It's okay. Haven't to the best of us, but, um, but yeah, I just, I mean, he got tip tanks too, so he
Starting point is 01:10:12 can now fly a little further, but there's limitations. Yeah. I will just say speaking of planes and traveling and like, we got, I get, we got far from this story, but I saw a post about this mom who passed out 200 goody bags filled with earplugs and candy on a flight from like South Korea or something. And it was like a little note, like, hi, I'm baby Henry, I'm sorry if I cry. This is my first flight.
Starting point is 01:10:39 And I'm nervous. And like this mom passed out 200 packs of earplugs and treats. My God. So, so generous, but also so, so sad that she felt she had to do that. Like, I think people have this expectation of like planes being like, oh, babies can't cry on planes. Like planes are for a lot of people,
Starting point is 01:11:04 public transportation. And I think people forget like't cry on planes. It's like planes are for a lot of people, public transportation. Yeah. And I think people forget like, babies are humans. So give babies a little slack on the planes, guys. I'm the first one to be like, babies on planes, like I get it. But I have like really had to like,
Starting point is 01:11:19 remember, even myself, like I was a hater on babies on planes. Yeah. But I have really tried to remember. There you go. There's just little babies. Patience. A little more patient. I've been okay with that.
Starting point is 01:11:30 I've never, I've never been the person who gets mad. I have about babies. Yeah. You know, there's some people out there. But yeah. What is your final verdict on pregnancy train guy? Asshole, not the asshole. I don't know, asshole in that situation, I guess,
Starting point is 01:11:46 but I don't know, I'm not super irked by it, I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, I'm not super like she, I'm not angry about it. Yeah, I feel like this is one where I'm kind of like, you're the asshole for not paying more attention to her, but also I don't think she should start pouting and then cancel the whole trip. That's how I feel.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Get the whole family involved. This might be in everyone's sucks. That's how I feel about it, where I'm like, yeah, you're kind of an idiot, but like, it's not that big of a deal. Yeah. It's easily remedied by just, I wouldn't, I personally wouldn't, and again, pregnant, maybe she's got hormones, maybe, like I think you read one of the symptoms, it was like your ability or like a mood. Moodyness.
Starting point is 01:12:24 So maybe this is part of that I don't know maybe that's just your personality but I personally'm not gonna go call my family and his family and like make this a huge thing and cancel like personally speaking that's not what I'm gonna do I'm not that angry about it but again I don't know maybe she's really tired and fed up and just this was her final straw I don't know. Okay, moving along. One last one with Alejandra. Woo-hoo-hoo!
Starting point is 01:12:50 Okay, so this is vintage. Vintage vintage. It's four years old coming from our slash relationships. Ooh. It is titled, My 28 female boyfriend, 29 male, of two years. Will not stop speaking in a fake Italian-American accent and keeps making up foreign words.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Ha. Ha. Ah. Throat. It's just ridiculous. Throat way because he uses Reddit and also because this is kind of embarrassing. Okay, to preface this, I love my boyfriend
Starting point is 01:13:23 and he is a super sweet, nice, smart guy that I feel lucky to have. But his behavior lately is freaking me out and makes me worried for the future. My boyfriend loves movies, especially mob movies. He has all of the sopranos DVDs at his place, and I'm pretty sure he still watches them that way. That's fine. Obviously, you can watch and enjoy whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:13:47 But last week, he saw the Irishman with some friends and since then, he will not stop talking in like a fake stereotypical mobster accent. Ha! Sorry. We're in an Uber the night after going out to dinner and admittedly, the driver was going a little fast But my boyfriend kept muttering things like who is this fucking guy, huh?
Starting point is 01:14:10 Dale earned hard junior over here And shooting Oh, as we took corners He's committed to the plot No, he's gone He would not shut up and even gave the driver a one star review saying it was about respect. No, you're lying.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Ha, ha, ha. Everyone has their quirks. I get it. And they can be what makes someone special. At first, it was even kind of cute slash funny. But I just can't really understand this shift all of a sudden. It's been a week and he continues to make a sides in this voice.
Starting point is 01:14:53 And when he gets drunk, he speaks in made up Italian. No, no. Lauren? It's the made up tongue. Like, we were having dessert at my sisters and it came up to me and said, quote, Hey, ma, I got some home and hit the dripini. No, I'm the DD. I don't drink. So I asked him why he wants to leave and what a dripini is. His response was, quote, you know, like a shower. He said dripini for shower. Yeah. Dripini is not a word in any language.
Starting point is 01:15:30 He also never called me ma before. Oh my god, that he was referring to his girlfriend? Yeah. No, I thought he... And now he does it almost all the time. I feel crazy. Like is this going to be a permanent feature of his personality now? Oh my God. I know this sounds incredibly stupid compared to some of the other stories on here,
Starting point is 01:15:54 but I'm really nervous about what this means about his personality, slash mental health. Oh my God. He really is a sweet loving guy with a wonderful full family, and we have a lot in common, but just like, I don't even know how to begin to approach this. I want to tell him off and be like, why do you keep doing this voice? Can you please stop?
Starting point is 01:16:14 We don't live together. So thankfully, it's not a constant thing, but like, what if we did and it was? Is this the kind of thing you just deal with when it's someone you love? Question mark? No. I keep thinking why doesn't she just talk to him about it? Yeah. Like it's not, it's not, it's not crazy to just be like, hey, you know, like, why not join him? If you can't beat him, join him.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Hey Ma, let's go I need a trapeini. I can't. I just, I don't know, dude. I don't know. This one's unique. I just, I just don't see the issue, which is like bringing it up. It's not that serious. Not that deep. Not that deep. That's a lot of these. I'm gonna be honest, I got really, really into Peaky Blinders. Oh, I love Peaky Blinders. I literally went around probably for a month. Peaky Blinders. Whatever, the heck the accident. Peaky fucking blinders.
Starting point is 01:17:17 I would just go around literally no context. Yeah. Had nothing to do with anything that was going on. Tall, shell bay, whatever. Do you know who have fucking fucking, the show they's picky fucking blinders. Right. Do you know who we are?
Starting point is 01:17:31 Right, I'm like, unprovoked. Unprovoked. Well, we've all done that. Like, haven't you seen the TikTok where it's like, you can't be friendly. Girls take friendly as flirty. You haven't seen this one? No.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Please, I know everyone out there knows I'm talking about. I haven't seen that one. You can't be friendly. Wait, like, you can't seen this one? No, please. I know everyone out there knows I'm talking about. I haven't seen that one. You can't be friendly. Wait, it's like you can't be friendly. Girls take friendly as Flirty. Shut it down. And it's like this like really interesting accent.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Oh my God. Yeah, look it up. Oh, anyway. TikTok I haven't seen. The TikTok viral sound everyone just keeps like redoing it. It's from the violent UK. Oh, the best. She's like telling them off. Being like girls girls take Florida as friendly, shut it down. And anyway, it's like, okay, out of nowhere, people just will start doing that accent.
Starting point is 01:18:12 And it's like funny, but not in your everyday persona. Like, busting out with peaky fucking blinders is like not your personality now. That is true. That's just, and it wore off. But like, if this is truly bothersome to her, I true. That's just in it, and it wore off. But like, if this is truly bothersome to her, I feel like she's just be like, yo, you're hilarious, but there's a time and a place.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And I did not marry a fake Italian, or like date a fake Italian. Pull it together. If you wanna go to Italy, just say it, okay? True. And some people have their bit. Honestly, this might be his bit. That's his bit.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Everyone should have a good bit. I love a good bit. What's yours? So Tommy and I, one of my good guy friends, he's big body. Yeah. The big body. The big body. The big body.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I love, I think everyone needs to start doing this bit. He's a big body and I'm champagne all day and I'm also someone of a big body, apparently. And so that's our bit. He's a big body and I'm Champagne LA and I'm also someone of a big body apparently. And so that's my, like that's our bit. Like that's one of them. I probably have a couple others. I feel like and big body is like, it can be physical but it's also energy.
Starting point is 01:19:16 It's energy. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's not what I say. I'm a big body. It's my energy. Yeah, explain the like what is a big body? What did start with actually physically pin being a bigger body.
Starting point is 01:19:27 It can be both. It can be both. He's like a big guy, like, buff, like, you know, big body. Big guy. But like, it became like big body energy. Like, BBE is like, it's like big dick energy. Like anything that's like, because a big body move,
Starting point is 01:19:41 like, I'm about to like eat five donuts. It's like, okay, big body. And it's like a good thing. Or like, if you big body move, like, I'm about to eat five donuts. It's like, okay, big body. And it's like a good thing. Or like, if you big dick someone, it's like, okay, big body. And he has a persona. I love it. Yeah, where if he's like being like,
Starting point is 01:19:54 what he would call like soft, then he's hard body. Hard body is a different persona. Oh. Yeah. So that's one of our bits. But then I also have like a bunch of bits with my family. Like, I love a good bit.
Starting point is 01:20:06 So I love this commitment to character, but it could be fun. But I think it's a little scary that it's taken over. Does he have a job? Does he do that at work? Ooh. I think I need to watch the Irishman. I haven't seen it. It's apparently like a three hour movie.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Oh wow. Really long. Yeah, nothing wrong with that. But it's just like commitment. Clear your night. He's kind of giving Ken, like some kind of energy. Yeah, it's energy. Have you seen Barbie? Of course. Life-changing. Yeah. Absolutely. Life-changing. I saw this guy who was talking about his dad's review of Barbie and he's like, there's going to be before Barbie, BB, and after Barbie, AB. AB.
Starting point is 01:20:45 And I agree. Love it. Love it. Love it. But it's giving like the, you know, all the cans were obsessed with the Godfather. Yes. Were they in the movie? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Were they? Yeah, they were obsessed with the Godfather and horses. Casa Doja Mojo House. Casa Doja Mojo House, but is that a doubtfather reference? No. No, but like they were all watching the Godfather and that yeah, oh you're right. They were watching it and they like explain this movie to me.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Okay. I do the horse. And she's like, oh, are you watching the Godfather? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Versus the Godfather. Yeah, yeah, you're right. And like explain it to me. Yeah, the man's playing it to me right now.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Yeah, okay. Yeah, so it's just so funny. It's just such a Ken thing. Dude, I've had, I have like these male clients. I've had a couple of now where they all reference the Godfather and I'm like, what is with guys? Okay, Ken. Like, what is with guys and the Godfather?
Starting point is 01:21:34 Like, they love it. Like, they love that movie and they love the, there's like lines in there that they'll like drop and I'm like, I've never seen the movie, fun fact. I mean, it's good. I'm sure it's good, I should have watched it, but. I don't know've never seen the movie, fun facts. I mean, it's good. I'm sure it's good, but I should go watch it. But I don't know, maybe for the time, because I know there's a Miles Teller show now
Starting point is 01:21:51 about the making of the Godfather that's apparently incredible too, but yeah, I mean, it wasn't life changing for me personally. Okay. For those that it was, I'd love to hear why. You know, to eat to zone. Do you know that? Well, you don't was, I'd love to hear why, you know, to to to each of zone. Do you know that? Well, you don't know because you haven't seen it, but they actually there's one scene where the guy wakes up with a horse head in his bed. And the godfather. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:14 It was a real horse head. I think it was a real horse head. No, stop. I don't even want to see this movie now. I haven't seen a lot of good. I haven't seen a lot of big movies. The horse head, Godfather. Yes, it was a real horse. Yeah. The studio had encouraged Francis Ford Coppola to use a fake horse head, but he didn't like the mockup. You're lying. Where did they get a horse head? I don't want to know.
Starting point is 01:22:36 His scouts found a horse ready for slaughter at a dog food plant in New Jersey. No! Oh my god, I don't want to watch this movie. I can't condone that. When that one is slaughtered, send us the head. Fuck the godfather. Oh my god, I hate this movie. Yeah, it was a...
Starting point is 01:22:55 Can you imagine being the... Do you want to see the picture? No. Can you imagine being the actor that has to don't literally do that scene? No, no, no. I'm literally getting goosebumps. I'm disgusted.
Starting point is 01:23:03 I feel like that would go against the union nowadays. I don't know. It's just gross. I thought that could never, that would never fly these days. I don't think so. No. I think a lot has changed especially recently in terms of like actor rights.
Starting point is 01:23:17 And like a lot of them have like intimacy directors and coordinators now. I hadn't heard of that. And so, yeah. And so they wear like coverings, like basically like a nut cup and like things like that that weren't offered. And I know one show that really advocated to have one is Outlander.
Starting point is 01:23:38 And the character Jamie, the actor that plays him, I'm forgetting his name, I think it's, I don't know, I don't know. So he didn't have one early on in the show and he had very graphic scenes where he was, what's this, is this a show? Yeah, it's called the Outlander. It's amazing. It's such a good show.
Starting point is 01:23:56 You would get, I think you'd get into it. What's it on? Showtime or Stars, one of them. I got to log in, you okay. I'll let you use it But he felt very very very violated and they he like really went to bat and said no We need an intimacy coordinator. Oh really? Yeah, and so I think that also changed with Game of Thrones where Amelia Clark Did not have one early on and then the show but I've heard the show, but I've heard. Yeah, and so they changed it. And so those are recent. So like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:28 I mean, yeah, I feel like that I've have heard about those, like with sex life. And they're, oh, and euphoria. Yeah. There was like a sex coordinator or something. That's as they should. Bare minimum. As they share minimum.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Bare minimum. For sure. That's, yeah. But this guy, I think you just have a conversation. I think I forgot to read the top comment. Which is, uh, LOL, what the fuck? He sounds like Michael Scott. Literally.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Yes, he does. He does, he does. Is he Italian at all? I know plenty of Italian Americans who kind of amput up like this. Yeah. You should let him know that it annoys you. I don't think he's Italian because, well, again, I'm really jumping to a assumption here, but I feel like if you were Italian,
Starting point is 01:25:08 you wouldn't be making up fake Italian words. Yeah, like I would never in my makeup fake Spanish words. No, like even my dad is, he's not fluid in, oh my god, I'm forgetting it right now. But there's certain like Jewish words where he's like, oh, that's a mitz words where he's like, oh, that's Amit's fa. Or like, oh, you putts or what, I don't know. There's about a bunch of words.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Yeah. And he's not fluent in that, but like he knows the actual words where he'll mix in. Yeah. Of course. Versus making up a dripini. No, he's literally made up a word. That's like, I think you wouldn't do that
Starting point is 01:25:43 if you were truly Italian. Also, if someone said dripini, I'd be like, oh, French press coffee. I think that up a word. I think you wouldn't do that if you were truly silent. Also, if someone said, Drupini, I'd be like, oh, French press coffee. I think that's a drink. I don't know what kind of drink, but I'm giving drink. Very unclear. Very unclear, okay.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Next comment down is, I'll have a gobbagool salad on the side. If the salad isn't on the side, I send it back. Is that like a father, Godfather? It must be a Michael Scott quote I was thinking. I don it back. Is that like a father, Godfather? It must be a Michael Scott quote I was thinking. I don't know. I freaking love Michael Scott. I will have the Gobbagool.
Starting point is 01:26:13 What? The Gobbagool. I don't really know what that is. You know, Gobbagool. I don't have to have that. What he's trying to say is, Gobbagool. Guys, I'm trying to really think that we have that. That's trying to say is, God bless, guys. I'm trying to get what we have now.
Starting point is 01:26:27 That's okay. Bring in the Garbage Wall. I will have this be good. I love doing it. With a side salad. Okay. If the salad is on top, I send it back. A side salad!
Starting point is 01:26:38 Garbage Wall. Oh, wait, what is that? That's salad on the side. That's what that means? Yeah. Garbage Wall. In what language? Michael Scott. Oh, my God, he's made up the side. That's what that means. Yeah, got a goal. In what language? Michael Scott. Oh my God, he's made up a language.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Yeah. I'm dead. You know, I've never seen the office. Oh my God, please do. I'm gonna start. It's so, oh my gosh, it's so funny. I was, I was ready to start it and then it got pulled from Netflix. Oh, that's really frustrating.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Terrible timing, so. That was really frustrating. I think it's on Hulu now. I'll get to it. It's good. It's a show that I have watched. Yeah, it's on Hulu now. I'll get to it. It's good. That's the show that I have watched. Yeah, it's good. I like this one.
Starting point is 01:27:08 This is a fun one. That was a funny one. I was really, I find a lot of enjoyment in that. Really frickin' weird. My boyfriend were doing that. We'd have to have a conversation. But I can't help but laugh. Like I applaud his commitment to the character,
Starting point is 01:27:22 but like let's snap out of it. Thank you. Yeah. It's funny. Thank you. Yeah. It's funny and seen. Okay. I'm trying to see if there's any more comments from OP, just like out of curiosity. It's just funny that she's just like, she's just dealing with it. Like she's suffering in silence. Like she's not even like saying anything to him like, can you not? like saying anything to him like, can you not? Yeah. Um, she does go. The comments she responded to was deleted, but they basically say, that's what I hope.
Starting point is 01:27:52 But when what happens when another movie slash show triggers it, I don't think I've seen the side of him before and it kind of weirds me out since normally he's pretty reserved and soft spoken. Yeah, honestly, that's another question. Is he going to morph into his next favorite character? Like, maybe it's Piki Blinders. So now he's Tom Shelby. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:12 And then he watches Barbie and now he's Ken. He's not hurting anyone. Honestly, out of all these today. Truly. This is my favorite. It totally, 100%. This is my favorite. No one was hurting this process.
Starting point is 01:28:23 No. Someone goes, this sounds hilarious. Yeah. Opie goes, trust me, it gets old. I could see that. I could see that. Someone goes, it sounds like he's having some sort of midlife crisis. Just gradually reminding him that it is not funny should help.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Hopefully that persona will die out soon. I don't know if it's a crisis, but it definitely feels abrupt and almost on purpose. Yeah, it's called having fun. Yeah, I think it's like laugh it off and then- It's having a good time. It's only been two weeks. Just if it's annoying you walk away. We'll just have a conversation.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Oh yeah, yeah. If you have a conversation and then he does stuff. I don't know, yeah. It doesn't sound like there's been any, hey, this is a little much. She's been like, do I approach him? Yes, you approach him. If you're annoyed by something minor your partner is doing, it's better to have the conversation and not bottle it up versus like, you know, like, I saw something interesting the other day where a lot of times guys will not talk about their emotions. And it's not that they don't feel
Starting point is 01:29:28 their emotions. They just don't have the words to describe them because it's not something they've practiced. Like if you think about women, typically, we'll vent to our girlfriends. Oh my god, I just feel so annoyed. He is driving me crazy. Well, blah-bo-bo-bo. Guys don't do that. When I ask Justin, I'm like, who do you talk to about when you're dealing with us fighting or stress from your family? Who do you go to besides me? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I don't really have anyone. So if he wasn't dating you, who would he go to? Exactly, he would bottle it all up. And that's not healthy. So I'm like couples therapy is like Unnonegoshable like we're gonna start it just for like regular maintenance Yeah, cuz like we don't have any major issues, but when things do come up from external forces It's nice to like have healthy ways to deal with it totally But I think that's just such an interesting thing where like
Starting point is 01:30:23 Guys will then use something you say where if women do bring up, I'm speaking traditionally hat relationships because I know it's so different for the queer community. But like, say, I said to Justin, like, hey, you know what, like you said you would be there at eight today and you didn't show up until 10 and I just would have appreciated a message just letting me know. And then he takes me bringing up something as a, well, you know, that one time when you were late, five months ago, it really hurt my feelings.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Yeah. And it's like, okay, well, you should have addressed that five months ago. Yeah. Don't wait and bottle up your emotions to when you have an excuse. And I, you know what I mean? Well, that's tip for tap mentality.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Yeah. But I will agree with you know what I mean? Well, that's tip for tap mentality. Yeah. But I will agree with you, whereas I've noticed a lot in even my relationships, guys are do that a little bit more than girls. Because as you mentioned, girls almost have like regular purging sessions. Yeah. Men don't.
Starting point is 01:31:16 So they wait for an opportunity, almost like an invitation. Yes, that's what it is. It's the invite. It's like, oh, oh, it's open season. Okay. And they pull out their like list and they're like, well, let's talk about what bought, you know, so it's like, you didn't grow. Just like bring it up when it happens. Yeah. I, um, my little brother actually had
Starting point is 01:31:33 an ex girlfriend that kept a list. I did it on one point. It's like, I know it's kind of an issue. Just break up. Like if you have a list of things that piss you off, break up. That's what I knew we were going to break up when I had the list. Yeah, and there's a lot. I've seen, not a lot. I guess I've seen a couple people do it, but I've seen multiple girls talk about how it's like healthy to keep a list versus like addressing everything and I'm like, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:31:57 I don't know about that. It feels like you're keeping score. For me personally, the list was just to clarify. I wasn't sitting there like plotting against him. I was, I think I was ready to start breaking up and I needed reminders because I'd get so lost in the good times that I needed to revisit that and be like, no, no, no, no, he did do all of these things.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Because I was like gaslighting myself a little bit. Okay, I can see that. That was helpful there. It was almost like a journal to be like, no, no, no, remember. But I can see how if you're actively in a relationship with someone with no intention of breaking up, and you're kind of keeping score. That is like truly a little unhealthy, in my opinion. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:32:33 And I think that's one thing, like after you have that initial conversation in a relationship if someone does bring up, like other issues, like the invitation, like you said, I think that's a great time to be like, Hey, going forward, let's address things as they pop up. Yes. It's not going to hurt my feelings. And hey, if it does, I'm going to try to not take it personally. I'm really going to try to hear you in the moment and change behavior
Starting point is 01:32:57 or see how we can address it together. Yeah. Because it's easy to get offended if a partner brings up something or, you know, you feel attacked. Yeah. We all we all get there, it happens. But just like step back and just take it as it is with the grain of salt and move forward. And or just even be honest and say,
Starting point is 01:33:16 I can't promise that my feelings aren't gonna be hurt because they might, right? But I can promise you that I'll work to get past it and I'll promise that I'll try to take it productively. But I might have anything to hurt, but that's just part of the process The way the cookie crumbles. Way the cookie crumbles. Okay. Well, that's a Alejandro segment on patience Any any thing you want to tell the people before we go? No No, no, nothing comes to mind.
Starting point is 01:33:45 No, okay, no, well, just have a good summer, hags, hags. Hags, wrapping up. Hockess. What's Hockess? Have a kick ass summer. Have a kick ass summer. Summer's coming to a close. Make the best of it.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Yeah. Full send. Speaking of summer coming to a close, we are doing a live show at the University of Minnesota on September 26th. If you are a University of Minnesota student or you have a connection to a student or faculty member, you can go for free. So it's a totally free show.
Starting point is 01:34:23 So if you have a friend that goes to the University of Minnesota, you can show up as long as you're with them. We really? Yeah. I'm like over here like. Yeah. So I'll post more info when I get it. I just learned that detail today. Nice. So mark it on your calendars Tuesday, September 26th. We will be at the University of Minnesota. Hey, go go first. Yeah. I might do a little meet and greet in the quad before. So I'll keep everyone posted on that. Just follow the two hot takes Instagram or my personal and you'll see lots of info on that.
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