Two Hot Takes - 133: Stopped Us in Our Tracks..

Episode Date: September 21, 2023

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Lauren! This episode features stories that have us stopping in our tracks. They're just so outrageous or bad that at first you're at a loss for words. Maybe you'll have words that are better than ours to tackle this week's batch of stories! Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Bonus Content on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes Our SubReddit to Submit YOUR Stories!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Partners: Hellofresh: HelloFresh.com/50tht Promo Code: 50tht Athena Club: Get started with Athena Club today by shopping in-store at Target nationwide! Vegamour: VEGAMOUR.com/tht Promo Code: tht Stitch: StitchFix.com/THT

Just your reminder to subscribe and thank you. Hey guys, I'm Lauren and I'm back from the Philippines. Hey, and I just want to say that all the Filipinos that I met were absolutely the most incredible people of all time. So thank you guys who live in the Philippines for being so hospitable. It's an amazing country. And I'm your host Morgan. Welcome back to another two hot takes episode. Let's get into this. Let's do it. Woohoo!

Wee! Here we go! 9.29 pm as we are starting this recording. I'm off to London next week. What? Yeah. Since when? It's been a couple weeks in the works. Was? Yeah. Since when? It's been a couple of weeks in the works.

Was, did I know this? I don't think so. I've just been so busy. I went from Minnesota back to LA for a week here. Then I'm off to London. Europe. I'm going to Paris for two weeks. Wait, when?

Yeah. When? Yeah. Next week, next week, Monday, September 11th is my flight there. Yeah, and then I'm off to Minnesota for the live show. Yeah. And then I'll be back. I think I'm going to be back in LA most of October, luckily. Are you going from London to Minnesota? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's going to be a lot for me. Are you bringing your equipment everywhere, obviously? Yeah, it's gonna be a lot for me.

So I realized I was like, I don't have any episodes. So I recorded one earlier today with Alejandra. Lauren is here now. We're gonna knock out the first half. The other half will come later this week. We are then recording a spooky episode. Like we are just, I'm jamming the men. I really said, do you say jamming jam, uncut dams. Instead of jamming the men. Did I say jamming? I think so. I mean, jamming. Yeah. Like a jamming. Yeah, that's me right now.

I'm losing my marbles a little bit. But. I like jamming. I hope that's what you said. Jamming. I'm jamming them. Yeah. Yeah, that we could make it a thing going forward.

But today's little theme, this theme for this episode, is like, ooh, stop this in our tracks. Okay. Like these stories, like you read them and you is like, ooh, stopped us in our tracks. Like these stories, you read them and you're like, what? No, no, no, no, no. Are you gonna add that one that you sent to me?

Oh yeah, the one that, because Morgan never ever sends these stories or examples, but we were gonna do a trio episode and the timing didn't work out for me and Alejandra, so we split them up. But we are gonna do a trio episode soon, so the people who want the trio ones is coming out spooky. Hopefully not too spooky.

I might have read that one for Alejandra. Okay, TBD, we'll see what happens when we get into it. Okay, cool, because that one, I was, even though I read it myself and we don't ever do that, I was still excited to share my thoughts with you. Okay, well, we're gonna see if we get it. It'll be a surprise for all of us, because I don't even know what one I sent now.

Yeah, do you want me to tell you? No, it was about names. Oh, no, we're not doing that one. Okay, no. one. Okay. No No, that one didn't that one didn't pop up on her episode. Okay, and it will not be on yours Where's it gonna be? No, maybe patron eventually? Really, I thought that was a good one. It is a good one. Everything good goes to patron I still have our molecule story to edit for Patreon.

Oh, God. Okay, but are you ready? Okay, let's dive in. Let's do it. Are you ready? Buckled up. See belt on for safety. Let's see it. Should I harness to?

There you go. Okay. So this one was posted on August 6, 2023. It is originally coming from relationship advice by throwaway broken wife. It is titled My 41 Female Husband 52 Male has a second family on the side. I've been sitting with this information for almost two weeks now, and I still don't know how to proceed. My husband has been in what seems like a committed relationship with another woman, and he's playing happy families with her and her three sons.

They're even planning on having a baby. A week ago, I stumbled on a TikTok account of this lady sharing her recipes, and in the background, I recognized my husband's back. Oh, my God. I wasn't too sure at first, but after taking a real good look as his wife, I know that fool's neck, back legs, and the clothing he was wearing, so I went looking through her posted videos just to piece together a confirmation of it really being my husband, and I continued to keep an eye on him and his movements, but he seemed normal.

It's clear to me now that he has his cheating down to a science. Every time he went on his work trips, she'd post these videos saying she's cooking a new recipe because her man is coming back from his work trip. She'd plate the food up and I'd recognize his grubby hands by the look and the way he'd hold the cutlery. He has a peculiar way of holding it, kind of looks like a Neanderthal discovering forks and knives. I can't believe this bastard has been with her

for three years. I don't know how he found the time to start an entire relationship on the side. I thought we were happy. This is why I won't date someone who's obsessed with golf. He tells me, he loves me all the time. Always brings me a gift from his work trips. When he's home, we have a great sex life

and pretty much have sex four two six times a week. We talk all the time. We've been married for 21 years and we have two daughters. We lost our eldest son 10 years ago, but we worked through it and got closer than ever before. We are even due to have our 22nd anniversary and it's his turn to plan it. We alternate who plans the anniversary each year. I know he's been planning an elaborate party for us, so why is he cheating? and it's his turn to plan it. We alternate who plans the anniversary each year. I know he's been planning an elaborate party for us. So why is he cheating?

I'm so angry and don't know what steps to take. I am utterly distraught. I thought we were happy. I thought he loved our little life. I feel like I can't think and I barely know where to start. I can barely focus. What do I do and how do I do it? I love coming on here and reading things and giving advice, but now that it's me, I feel like I can barely focus. What do I do? And how do I do it? I love coming on here and reading

things and giving advice. But now that it's me, I feel like I can't think. I nearly burned my kitchen down because I literally spaced out and forgot I was cooking. Is that the end of it? That is the original post. Wow. That really reminds me of the, I think it's called the other woman, the one with Cameron Diaz and, um, yes, Kate Upton, and then I'm flanking on the redhead's name. Is it Leslie Mann? Oh, yeah, I think that's, yeah, I think that's her. Okay, yeah.

She's so cute. Amazing movie. The three of them had such good chemistry together. Yeah. And we cannot forget about the quain, her south. Nicky Mannage was a man. Oh yeah, that's right. She was so good.

Her and her hat little butt walking around the office. She wasn't a good actress. She crushed that one. Yeah, she really did. Yeah. She crushed it. Crushed it. But yeah, it is hard.

Like, I don't know what you would do in that moment. It's just, it's just so crazy. It just, I wonder people like that, what type of, do they look at it as a competition? Like, is it just so, is he, is he, I don't believe that he's unfulfilled. I believe that he's trying to see like what he can get away with. Do you know what I mean? I think some people make a game out of it. I don't know. It just seems so fucking crazy to want to live two different lives Unless you looked at it as some type of defeat

Let's see what I can get away with. I don't know because I don't understand how could anyone want to do that I feel like there's a lot of times people cheat or do things like this because they can. I think it is like a challenge of like, how far can I get? Or like, they're happy in this 20 year marriage, like, at the time of him cheating, I guess they would have been married for 19 years, not 20. But he's had 19 years. It's been safe. It's been comfortable. He doesn't want to go through a divorce.

He doesn't want to split his assets, but he's not completely happy. He'd like a little more fun. He'd like a younger wife, maybe some younger kids, to play dad too. But that's what really stops me too, because I feel a lot of times you hear these stories, and it's like because of the fact that they have this like cute little

you know, life with their children and their wife and then all of a sudden they're going through a midlife crisis and they're like, I want to feel wanted again and I, and if you know, a woman, a single woman shows them an ounce of interest. Yeah, then they get excited and makes them feel like youthful and then that's where that kind of happens. So that's what's strange to me that he's not only cheating, but he's living two different lives with two different, you know, like sets of kids. You know, that you don't hear about that,

not often at least. No, and we did have a story where there was a husband who was having another life and did actually have his own kids already with that woman. But I know someone in real life, like, really rabbit hole connection, but like a friend has someone in their life that their dad was a pilot and had a whole other family. And that other family, like, doesn't know about him

at all. And he passed before it ever came out. So it's just like this shit happens. Like it, it's crazy. Like I saw a TikTok trend. And it was like, it was kind of playing off the Barbie thing where it was like, my Ken is in sales. All he does is sales. He travels all the time in sales. And I remember like seeing comments of people like, I can never date a Ken in sales. Like traveling too much.

Like, oh, I'll blah. Oh, that was a joke by the way to anyone who's a golfer. I don't actually know what. Yeah, well that was the golf thing. Well, because it's to me the reason that I don't like the idea of dating someone who's obsessed with golf Well, because it's to me the reason that I don't like the idea of dating someone who's obsessed with golf is because it's such a time consuming sport and a lot of people do it on Saturdays and Sundays.

And so it's like, if my husband and I, I wanted to hang out with him on a Saturday and a Sunday and then he's like, but it's my passion. You know, I wanna go to golf and then I play for, he plays for like eight hours because sometimes they're just gone forever. 18 holes. And then like they're, you know,

with their friends and they're drinking and then they get like food afterwards and all that stuff. So have you ever tried golfing? Yeah, I'm gonna be young. I'm not knocking golfing. I'm no, but like if that was his passion, maybe you could participate from time to time.

Yeah, I mean, if I love golf, that would be awesome. Like I think it'd be so awesome to have a mutual. Just go drive the cart and have a drink. Well, I don't need to because I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know that day and some news obsessed with golf. There you go. But anyway, I was just trying to make a joke because if somebody says that they're just golfing on a Sunday and they're gone for eight hours,

it's not suspicious. That is quite the long round of golf. I'm telling you, I'm an amateur. I'm not even an amateur. I'm like a baby novice golfer and didn't take me eight hours. Okay, but think about it. Let's say the golf course is an hour away. So an hour there and an hour back, you get there, you get there, adding valuable context. Yes, you get there a little bit early because you want to get breakfast with your guys. And then you get to start off making a toast

and you're drinking and then those drinks and tipping that hot golf cart, best girl. Oh no. How many of you seen the hot beverage cart girls? No. No. They literally employ the hottest girls to work the beverage carts.

Man, there's literally this TikTok creator, I'm forgetting her name. She's so cute. She decorates her little cart and has her cute outfits. And she's like, ooh, $100 tip. Oh no. Every person out there with a partner that golfs is like, aha, like they're gonna show up like with a binoculars

the next time their person says, hey, I'm going golfing, sweetie. Yeah, just out there. Oh man, no, I mean, I'm kidding, I don't know golfers to be cheaters or anything like that. So that's not the reference. It's just, it's just thinking about how in the world could somebody create a whole nother family?

What could they make an excuse that they're doing for so long that they could go have another family? Because you think about it, it's like, well, if you're having an affair, then after work, you can say, I'm working long hours, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But it's like to be, have a whole other family, you'd think that you'd have to have

some Saturdays and Sundays in there. How are you gonna pretend to be gone all day long, undisturbed, not on your phone for that amount of time? Golf. Anyway. Apparently, I was just spitballing, but. No, we're gonna spit some stats at people. Men who play these sports

are more likely to cheat on their partners. This is coming from Australian men's health. I'm not sure where they're getting this data yet. Girls love guys who play sports and keep fit, but it turns out not all sports are as innocent as others. With a new survey revealing, what sport you play could be an indicator as to how faithful you'll likely be. Rugby players admitted to being the most likely

to cheat on their partners. The results found that those who play team sports are far more likely to cheat on their partners than those who play solo sports. The top three sports for cheaters were found to be rugby. Number one, number two, football. Okay. Take a guess what number three is.

Is it golf? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I thought you said team sports though, and I thought that golf was more of a solo sport. You would think so. The survey pointed the two sports where competitors

are least likely to cheat, are swimming and running. Going to the gym was also an excuse used by a small number of people to cover up an affair. Well, and that's the other thing too, if you think about it, because now I'm worried that we're worrying people's like golf people right now, and that's not what I want to do at all, but because if you think about it, if you do have someone who's actually obsessed with playing golf, then they're gonna play golf, they're not gonna, you know, use that excuse and not play golf and then go with another girl.

Well, and this guy's whole progative was he was going to work. He was on work trips. Yeah. So it's not even the fun past times. Yeah. It's his job. Right. Which I'm very confused.

Does she live in the city he's going to work in? Like, we need more. So are there updates? We got updates. Oh, why don't you tell me that from the start? Oh, we got receipts. We got updates. I would have skipped this golf thing.

I thought we did everything else we were working with. Oh, no, we got stuff we're working with here. So the top comment on the original post, collect all the evidence, all of the videos and the timeline of all of his work trips, contact a divorce lawyer and hit him with divorce papers. I'm normally of the approach that splits should be as amicable as possible, but this fucker has a whole second family. Be the definition of a woman scorned. OP responds. I've been downloading all of her TikToks and screenshotting everything she has posted

on her Instagram. I have also been collecting all of our bank statements, but I can't find anything incriminating. At this point, I'm thinking he has a secondary bank account. I don't know of. And he's probably having the post delivered at his office or at his mistress's house. Yeah.

Online banking. You get like rewards for it. Paperless statements. No, this is definitely a second bank account. No question. I'm actually considering hiring a private investigator to do a deep dive since I can't find any evidence of his cheating.

I think that's a good idea because, I mean, I guess I don't know what they're, if they have a prenup or what their state laws are. Yeah. Or what their situation is financially. But I would just be worried about the fact that he is this conniving, that he is secretly funneling a ton of money in other avenues.

Oh, yeah. In case he does get caught that way, he doesn't have to give her, you know, as much money, let's say if he had to give her money, I know that's something that way. He doesn't have to give her as much money. Let's say if he had to give her money, I know that's something that happens. Well, is he also bankrolling this other woman's whole life? What is he paying for? There's another comment here that says, do a credit check for free on him. You might find info on his other accounts or credit cards, which credit cardma displays. It displays all your debts, all the different cards.

All you need is your social. Oh, because, oh, okay, got it. Yeah, I mean, I knew that part. I just didn't know that I thought you were saying it's public information. No, that's crazy. She would need like private information. A PI could be helpful, but you need to consult

with a lawyer first and they might have a PI. If you are spending on a PI, you need to do it because you'll get more money or something in the divorce. Don't waste a lot of money on a PI just because you want to know. And you'll need a PI with a license so the information can be used in a divorce proceeding. That's good info. Seems like great public knowledge. Yeah. Someone goes, talk to a lawyer, don't talk to him first. O.P. I've been looking up law firms and will be reaching out for an appointment on Monday. I definitely won't tell him a thing until I've sorted myself out and all of our ducks are in a row.

As far as the business goes, I am financially invested and own half of it. So I definitely need to get a lawyer and forensic accountant involved. I do work and can fully afford to support myself and my girls. Do you have any copies of your tax returns? I'd find those. If you can't, you can request them from the IRS. If you can, I check his wallet sometime

to see if there's any debit cards from a bank you don't know of. Definitely going to do this. Thank you. This really is like the other woman, this whole situation. Everyone's asking, how is he funding her? My husband makes great money.

We are financially well off. He owns his own business of which I'm heavily invested in since it's creation. In the past few years, he has been establishing a new office in a city not too far from where his mistress lives, I guess. That's how he met her. Woo-ee! Crazy.

Do you have real evidence or just pictures of a guy's back? So there are no pictures or videos of his full face-slash-front body. She always has him obscured or puts emojis where his face is. But looking through various pictures and videos posted, I have recognized his hands, hands, entire back, lips, haircut scars, his clothes, his suitcases, his cars interior, his grandfather's watch, and his laptop. There's nothing special about it, but my daughters have put a ton of stickers

on the bottom part. So, piecing all of that together, I am certain it's him. Yeah. Trust your gut. Yeah. People just know sometimes. I just loved how she just went and describing how she knew it was him. Yeah. Trust your gut. Yeah. People just know sometimes. I just loved how she just went and describing how she knew it was him. And she's like, yeah, I saw his grimy little hands that

looked like a neanderthal. It just felt so like casual. Like as if it was factual information, but they were such funny burns. Oh, it's so good. Okay, update. This was posted on August 28th, which would have been three weeks after the initial post. First, thank you all for your kindness and for all the great advice you've given me. I'm truly grateful. The past couple of weeks have been a whirlwind of emotions. I have been able to engage the services of a great divorce lawyer and I was advised to not let my husband know that I knew of his affair. I was then finally given the go-ahead a few days ago, and well at first he refused to admit anything. But I was prepared for that.

I showed him all of the online posts his mistress made. I also showed him pictures taken by my investigator. He still denied it. Then accused me of being insane. Then after hours of me just throwing evidence after, evidence after him, he finally admitted to the affair. He tried to twist things so that he could weasel and lie his way out of it, but I was relentless. I did not let him twist reality and make me doubt the plain truth.

We argued all day and all night it was exhausting. The next morning he tried to get on my good side because I woke up to him having made breakfast and he was begging me to not hate him and to find it in my heart to forgive. I told him I could not and that I wanted a divorce. That brought on the waterworks and he called me a heartless and an unforgiving bitch. Oh my God. He then left to take his things to his parents' house as I had asked him to leave.

While he was at his parents, I went to his mistress' home. My sister went with me. She waited in the car. And well, she let me in and we talked. She wasn't even surprised I was there. I had already suspected she was aware of him being a married man, but I still gave her the benefit of the doubt. That's what I was wondering. So I was like, okay, she's covering it up with little stickers. You only usually do that to kids. Yeah, well, especially if they

bend together for how many years, weren't they seeing each other for years? Or did I miss, I think, over? I think around three years. Oh, three years? Yeah. That's just like, that is, that's a commitment. And at that point, you have to wonder, like he's not talking to me,

where is he, why is he disappearing during these times, doing, God knows what, like my ex would disappear during the weekends. And like, I got to the end and I'm like, yeah, this is a fishy fucker. He's got cell phone service. He's, he's lying. Yeah. Like you, you start to pick up on things. Crazy.

Oh, I'm just like spilling everywhere today. Spilled on my white rug. I just spilled all over my computer. I spilled on myself earlier. Dude, right, when you said that I spilled on myself white rug. I just spilled all over my computer. I spilled on myself earlier. Dude, right, when you said that I spilled on myself. Like this second you said, I am just, I literally just spilled on myself. Like I want to see it.

You zoom in on that. I will. I will do zoom for all of people watching on YouTube. It's so ridiculous. My mouse pad is so sticky. I can't even scroll anymore. OK. She was actually gloating when she told me about how in love he is with her, how good he is to her boys, and how he bought her the house, the car, and all the other money he

spent on her. She then told me if I wasn't such a lazy bitch and gold digger, he wouldn't have been so easily taken. Shut the fuck up. And how my lack of submission and servitude was the reason he cheated. Someone says that to my face, after fucking my husband for many years, this woman,

she has the self- control of a monk. I, to be honest, I'm just so proud of people when they find out stuff like that from the start and they don't instantly just go fucking crazy, like blowing them up, like she was so smart about it, took her time, you know, did all the right things. And then it's like the fact that she's going to address this woman, probably thinking that she's helping

this woman out too. And that woman is, she is literally so many bad words that I just don't have the energy to say right now. She just played herself. She just admitted that he spent all this money on her. Oh my God. Guess who owns half of all of her shit? Oh, wow.

That wife, wow. How my lazy bitch when I'm the primary parent and homemaker is beyond me and how am I a gold digger? I don't understand as I work and earn more than him. Yeah. As she was flapping her gums, he arrived and he was pissed off at her. He was calling me a ton and I had texted him that I was at his mistress's house. They argued as he told her not to speak to me like that. And he in no uncertain terms told her that he

wants to be with me. That she's ruining his chance at saving his marriage. I just thanked her for being forthcoming and continued to laugh my way out of the house because yes, my husband makes great money. But as his business partner, I own half of his business and as his wife, I own half of all of his other assets. So I am glad that she gloted and that she confirmed that he paid for most of what she has. That's insane. Now I know for certain that he, nor she deserves an ounce of my sympathy and I will take back everything he ever gave her. Good.

And much more. Woo! I love that. Oh, that's hilarious. Wow, that girl's a fucking bad-ass. Oh my God. Oh my God. That's amazing. There is one more comment that's from someone that

just goes higher a forensic accountant ASAP and OP goes, oh did that because I'm certain he used company finances to live extra lavishly. There you go. Wow. That's honestly hilarious and so iconic. I just love, love, love, love, that that, that the other woman just shot herself in the foot so badly. Insane. Who talks to somebody like that? Like how deranged you have to be to be sleeping with somebody else's husband for three years and then think that you won. He's not, he didn't leave her, they're married. Like yeah, it wasn't he left her and chose you.

Yeah, he never left her. No, you're a side person. Like, Like stop. You're full stop. Please stop. Yes, just stop. It's over. I think it is interesting. And we've kind of talked about this before, but people that are willing to be the other woman or the other guy, the other person, because I don't think that would leave me feeling fulfilled. Never. Not only would I feel guilty. I don't know if I would ever get a rush out of it.

No. But it's also like that person isn't choosing to leave their unhappy relationship. They don't wanna address that at all. They don't have the goal or the audacity to address it. They're cowards. They're seeking you out and you're willing to put up with that. Like, it just like, it boggles me.

And I get if you don't know upfront, but like, it really is interesting. Yeah. I know, I know, I'm not friends of this person. I just like know her through the grapevine, but I know she was dating a much older man who was married and had kids and I Apparently I didn't hear this from her, but like apparently she

fell in love with him and she just just like, he would always say, like, you know, I'm separated for my wife, but like there's just so many like dynamics in play that like I can't like, I just can't get like an official divorce. There's too many, you know, whatever, but like I love you too. Cheating is so sweet.

Did he ever leave? I don't think so. I don said, I don't know her, so I don't really get like the end of the story. But yeah, I don't think you ever did. And like, I don't know, it's just so difficult. I think that like, if I just, I would have to, I think I would have to meet the wife. If I'd be like, if we're gonna continue this,

like I need to know that you, you're not lying to me. Yeah. I need to hear it from her. Like if you're actually separated. Yeah. That's all grab lunch. Yeah. Let's chat.

Yeah. Cool. Right. If that's a no, then you're not actually separated. Yeah. Because like I feel like if people, if you say we need a break, we are going to be separated during this time, we are allowed to see other people.

That's usually I think, or at least that's how separations should go, or hey, we're separated, let's focus on ourselves, we're not seeing other people. Usually people define those boundaries, I think. Right, I mean, there's a difference if it's like we're separated, but we're planning it back together versus we are completely done, like, dun, dun, dun, dun, but they just take some time for the divorce to come through. Yeah. And so obviously you don't want to see a girlfriend of your ex.

So that's why it's so easy to play that card. Yeah. But I just feel like I would need some more type of confirmation because people do these type of shitty things. They lie so easily. Yeah. And it's believable. But that just also reminded me, I'm just such a, I always make references to other media.

But that just reminded me of just, Taylor, what song? No. God, I wish that I could think of a song to that, but I can't. But no, it reminded me of just go with it. The one with Adam Sandler. Yeah. Because do you remember that's exactly what happens? Like, but except, yeah, I don't want to ruin the movie if anyone hasn't seen it. Um, better not. Yeah, you're right. It's a good one. It's on Netflix right now. I'm gonna, really, I'm gonna watch it tomorrow. There is another comment on the update that OP kind of responds to

a couple times. Someone goes, I hope that your divorce lawyer has a field day with him. The day his AP, adulterous partner, I believe is what it stands for, gets booted out of the house. He bought her will be a great day. Enjoy taking back what is rightfully yours. Update me. OP goes, oh, I certainly look forward to taking possession of the house and clawing back every penny spent on her. Someone else replies and goes, is he still trying to get you back? Or is he now with the mistress? He was at the house earlier today and begging on his knees, then screaming, please, please

don't do this, then flipping out. He finally, he's like in so many ways. He finally left after I had the right to call the police. He's also constantly sending me crazy ass tags saying, we shouldn't let the devil get between us. He's also, he's also sending me inspirational quotes and stories, links to marriage counselors and begging me to go to it. Oh my God.

Don't let the devil get between us. If he's speaking, you're dick at her first. Yeah, I'm like, are you just, are you super religious or are you referring to the mistress? Cause like, I don't know which phrase would be worse to say, but like, that is hilarious to like be the one who is in the committed relationship

and be, you know, the one who betrayed your entire family. And then to call that person the devil as if she brainwashed him, bitch, fucking please. I cannot stand when men get in trouble. And then they are the victim. No, you're not the victim. Okay, you were in trouble. You're not turning this.

Like, stop. I just feel like, ugh. You are a 52-year-old man who had full control of his cognition, his wits, his dick. Yeah. And you decided to forget your brain and followed where your dick went. and you got vagina matized. And just the funniest part too for me is the fact that like she for like two days was

showing him pictures of himself. And this motherfucker continued to deny it. That's a level of crazy. Like, literally getting confronted with so much evidence and she did have an investigator that provided additional pictures. And to be like, that's on me. Yeah, caught me on the counter.

Who wasn't me? Like, that is literally what it is. Like, it is very clearly you, sir, unless you have a twin brother you haven't told me about. Yeah. And that just makes me feel so sad It is very clearly you sir, unless you have a twin brother you haven't told me about. Yeah. That just makes me feel so sad for all the people out there who have been cheated on by their partner, confronted them.

You know it for a fact, but yet you don't have that hard-could evidence. Like this, like, opitas. It just, and then your partner's gaslighting you, calling you crazy and stuff like that. Like makes me so sad that there are probably people out there right now listening to this being like, yep, almost positive, my ex cheated, but could never get that confirmation.

Like it's so nice that she has that cold hard evidence. It's very satisfying for her. You ready for the next one? Yes, I am. One of the sweet partners is Hello Fresh. Fall is here and it is already proving to be a busy season. And the last thing I wanna do on busy days

is go to the grocery store or plan a meal or just do anything that involves a lot of effort, which is where Hello Fresh comes in. With Hello Fresh, you get farm fresh, pre-portioned ingredients, and seasonal recipes delivered right to your doorstep. So you can skip those trips to the grocery store and count on HelloFresh to make home cooking, easy, fun, and affordable. I love how versatile HelloFresh is.

I usually only stick to things with wings, like chicken and turkey, so I'm able to customize the meals that get sent to me. And I really don't like cooking. My dad does, so it's amazing when he cooks these, but I do have to cook for myself here and there. So I love the Hellefresh has 15 minute meals that are really easy and quick

and don't take a lot of time to prepare. And you're gonna find something even for the pickiest of eaters, and it's gonna taste good. And if you need any more incentive, there's some amazing fall flavors coming your way. So check them out. Go to HelloFresh.com slash 50thT and use code 50thT for 50% off plus 15% off the next two months. Go to HelloFresh.com slash 50thT and use code 50tht for 50% off, plus 15% off

the next 2 months. HelloFresh, America's number one milk it. Okay. It did go pretty viral. I had a lot of listeners send it to me. It is titled, I am at a loss as to what to do with my 54-male wife, 51 females request. I think I know what this one is. My wife and I have been married since 2001 and together since 1999. She is the most intelligent, thoughtful, caring, loyal person I know, and I have always thought of myself as fortunate to have met and married her. She is, even today, aesthetically beautiful and men have told her this throughout our marriage. She has always shot them down. Earlier this year, she was diagnosed with uterine cancer, stage one, and had a full hysterectomy. I was never concerned about the cancer. It was diagnosed early, dealt with quickly, and she made a full recovery. I took time off work till after her,

after the surgery, and all seemed well. There were some to be expected, emotional instances on her part, and although I am not an emotional person, we dealt with them together. After her recovery, she was insistent that we start living life to the fullest and took a 10-day trip to Europe

followed by a trip to Belize. We also have a trip to the UK and Spain slash Portugal later this year. I am fine with these things, building memories and crossing bucket list adventures off her slash our list. I also understand that these are a result of feeling fragile on her part. She also took up yoga, swimming, and healthy cooking classes. I was fully on board until last week. Last week she came home from work and told me she wanted a hall pass. A one-time opportunity for her to have sex with someone else besides me. She said that since her cancer diagnosis, her outlook on life has changed, and she doesn't

want to be handcuffed from doing things she wants to do. She explained that there is this guy at her work, and she has always had some attraction to him. He is leaving the company, and she will never see him again, so this is the perfect opportunity to sleep with someone else. She said that I could say no of course, but that she would, quote, be mad, slash disappointed at me for an undetermined amount of time and that it would be confirmation

of my male toxicity and insecurity. Oh, unhinged. Is she on like pain meds right now? I mean, what? I don't consider myself to be toxic, and if not wanting your wife of 20 plus years to have sex with someone else is insecure, then I guess I'm insecure.

I told her that I appreciated her talking to me about this, but approval via coercion is not approval. I also said that I do not appreciate her language in describing my as of yet unknown reaction to this very large issue that could affect the rest of our marriage slash life. I got up in the morning, she basically said that she was sorry for putting such a large decision solely on my shoulders

and that to help, she was taking the decision away from me. She booked a hotel near where her coworkers are having a party, slash send off for this guy, and she would spend the night there with him, and hoped that I would be here when she got back. That she would answer any questions I have about the night after it happened, but not before. She will not tell me who he is or anything about him because she knows me too well And that I would dwell and obsess over him and that it would make it quote to real for me Which it is real pretty accurate my god

Her POV is that the less I know the better which contradicts the offer to tell me anything I want to know after it happened. I think she knows I won't want to know slash ask anything or simply will not tell me. Part of me thinks at least she has been honest with me and she has been through a lot since finding out she had cancer, so maybe I should just let it happen. I certainly have no concept of what she went through so I cannot dismiss how this affected her mental state slash outlook on life. Part of me wants to put my foot down and say this is not going to happen

and deal with those consequences when they happen. Her best friend called me Callis for even suggesting that I wouldn't let it happen because I have no idea what she went through. What? What? What? What is happening?

I find it hard to believe that she is okay with the possibility of throwing away 20 plus years of marriage over some guy that she has had no relationship with outside of work and that I should just call her bluff. Maybe she thinks similarly that I won't throw away the marriage because of one encounter. I just don't know what to do. I empathize with her and then an instant later I am angry with her. You should be. Part of me wants to know who this guy is.

What does he look like? What has he got that is so enthralling to her? Is he just a safe option? Is he married? Does his wife know? Would I be a callous asshole for saying no? What can I do besides walking away? This is out of control.

I totally thought you were gonna tell a different story. I've not ever heard this one. Well, now I wanna know what when you were thinking of I'll tell you later, but part two, you can come with it. Yeah, perfect. No, this is crazy. Yeah, stop us in our tracks while it's 20 years.

I also just want to point out the fact that again, before he even responded, she said, if you, here's your options, and if you say no, then you are a toxic man. You're insecure. Insacure, that is the most, that's the most toxic thing I've ever heard. You're a manipulative, crazy person.

Yeah. And then, you know what, thought about it, I'm just gonna take the decision away from you. Hopefully you'll be here when I'm back. Like, do you even wanna be with him? And then on top of it too, get divorced if you wanna sleep with other people. If you know him so well, that you know that he'll dwell

and obsess over it, if he knows that it's real, and so you're gonna protect him by not giving him details, it's like, then what kind of partner do you think you are? If you know that your partner going into this question that you had would obsess over it, dwell over it, like be so sad about it, like you're willing to break your partner's heart for a fucking orgasm? What's wrong with you?

Orgasm's already been guaranteed. True. Maybe some penetration, but I just, I'm like, I don't know why they're bringing in the fact that she's gone through a hard time, that that makes it okay to completely shatter somebody else's heart. How does that, how does that add up? The person who is there for you through your hard time, you're going to turn around and shatter that person's heart. It's like, yeah, if you don't want to be with them, then leave them. It's just like,

well, I'm also like, I know some people aren't as like sexually free. So this kind of sounds silly even saying this, but I'm kind of curious as to why her first thought was I wanna cheat, I wanna have sex with someone else versus, hey honey, I wanna adventure more sexually. Would you wanna have a three-sum? Yeah, like, then it would be like maybe a better conversation. more sexually, would you want to have a three-sum? Yeah. Right. Then it would be like maybe a better conversation.

Clearly. First is, hey, I'm going to fuck this guy no matter what you say. And I hope you hear when I get back. Do you know what I'm sure it was? I'm sure she fantasized about this guy at her work before she even had cancer. And this is her way of like cancer didn't ruin me. I can get him after cancer. And this is her way of like, cancer didn't ruin me. I can get him after cancer. Like more, just the, not even that,

but just more of the fact, like, if she's having this realization, like, I don't wanna miss out on anything I wanna do, then now that once she was better, she's like, well, we're all my fantasies that I didn't live out. Okay, I wanna go travel and do all this stuff. True, these hitting the bucket list.

I fantasized sleeping with this guy all the time and I thought it was innocent, just, you know what I mean? But like, I can't let this go. I need to live out my fantasies. You know, like, that's, I feel like that's where it's coming from. Oh, I could see that 100%. I just, and I can't believe that she got her best friend to jump on board.

Stay out of it. Stay out of it. You little witch. It's so wild. Like, can you imagine ever having the balls or any like to go to Justin and be like, Hey, you're being so callous. No. You won't let Morgan sleep with someone else.

No. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. What? You'd have to pay me like a million dollars to do that. So the top comment on the original post, kind of think this is the way your marriage will be from now on.

With her epiphany, she wants to relive her life and she's going to do it regardless of your feelings. I think she is being rather selfish and probably only threatens this because she thinks you are beaten down and will simply put up with it. Yeah. Perhaps not the best time for trips and frills. She wants the single life. Let her see what that means. Yeah. Honestly, I think I completely agree. She thinks she can just walk all over

him and that he will be there. And so she doesn't give a shit. That's why she's like, I'm not going to give you the option. I'm just going to take that away from you because it's going to be too hard on you. No, she's doing that because she knows that that's what she's going to do and that he's going to be there when she gets back because he loves her so deeply that even though he's in so much pain, it's worth it to be able to stay with her and she's taken advantage of that. I think if he did leave, I think it would be a very rude awakening. But who else does? I have no idea what this update says.

I just know there is one. But I hope he does. I think with someone willing to treat you like this after 20 years of marriage, she is a cold, calculating, manipulative, terrible person. Mean, mean, mean, mean. So the comment after the top one is, yeah, her attitude makes me think it's not a one time hall pass.

And next comment down goes, wouldn't surprise me if she has already cheated. Which, what do you think on that one? I don't know, because I think that, why would she say it the way that she's saying it? You know, if she's, sounds like she's pretty, has no remorse about it. I'm, I don't know, that doesn't sound like

a already cheater thing to me, but maybe. Yeah. There is one comment that got some down votes that I find really interesting. It's from someone going, oh my fucking god, look at all the mononormative prudes in the comments. I hope you all fall an existential crisis or two in your life so that you get over your limited view of what constitutes love, loyalty, and sensuality.

The woman has faced not just her mortality, She has faced her death as a woman. That's what those feminine cancers do to you. Of course she now wants to celebrate her womanhood now with whatever life she has left and the nice caring husband capable of loving this woman only if she is His seriously, you can only love her if she belongs to you, like a coffee cup that no one else can drink from, news flash, nobody belongs to anybody. What? If you really love her for her, not for her being yours, you'd offer her the small act of freedom

without getting selfishly hung up on how that other guy measures up to you. It's irrational and immensely narcissistic to presume one person can fulfill all the needs and wants of the other person. Grow up. The world may end tomorrow, you know. This is her. This is her.

This is her. This is her. I mean, that's what I said. It's one thing if you wanted to have a threesome or you wanna say, let's open our relationship. But like, if you're partner that you're married to says no, your option after that is you're cheating or like you need to end it. That's, that is the wildest thing that I've ever heard.

Because whoever wrote that, if you want to be in a polyamorous relationship, that's great, that is amazing. The whole concept of relationships is having agreements, verbal agreements on what works for everybody. Whenever they committed their lives to each other, they did they have that agreement, okay,

but in 20 years, I get to have a whole plot pass. Probably not. And so it's the most irrational thing to try to come at O.P. and say that he's selfish and he's trying to own this woman because what? Like, it's just what? Am I hearing that right? O.P OP does respond.

The type of lifestyle you're suggesting contrary to Reddit promotions are a minority. If she came to me and discussed this while knowing that it was a possibility that I would not agree to participate in, and that would have been the end of the discussion, that would have been the proper route. She instead took the holy forced proposition of removing my agreement.

She also removed the option of me having the same opportunity. What? That's fucked up. That's so fucked up. That's fucked up. It's good for the goose, it's good for the gander. You get to go have sex with someone else, he should too.

But the double standard here. That's wild. Ready for the update? Yeah. I was hoping that my opposition to her plans would give her pause, but unfortunately, that did not happen. I said, I am a hard-know, and that I am not sure how I will feel about you if you go ahead with it. I was met once again with, quote, this is for me.

It will be one time. What can I say to help you deal with it? You'll get over it. We were meant to be regardless of the situation. All of these remarks leading up to Saturday. She left Saturday, ostensibly, to meet her coworkers, but in reality, to fuck the guy. I asked her to text me when she was leaving for the bar, and when she did, I asked her if she was really going to go through with this.

After her response, quote, I'm not answering any more questions tonight. I will see you tomorrow. Wow. I blocked my wife. Then I did something either stupid or brilliant. I went to the bar where the get together was happening. Well, not the bar, but a transit bench across the street. I waited for a long time. It was running through my mind, the leading up to this event, that I needed to know who this guy was,

maybe to compare myself against him, to see what he had that I do not. It was driving me crazy, not knowing who he was and what was so special about him that she would ruin our marriage for. After what seemed like an eternity, a woman that I recognized from my wife's office left the bar and got in a cab. Soon other people started filing out and a whole group came out and people were hugging a man and shaking his hand. I assumed that I had my guy. I didn't see my wife and had a brief thought that maybe she called it off.

I unblocked her and there were no messages. Everyone said their gobys and left. Dude was standing outside for a few minutes and then my wife came out. She looked around, took his hand and started walking away together. Of all the emotions I went through, trepidation, sadness, anger, it was disgust that really encapsulated the event for me. This guy was short, fat, and bald. All the things I cannot compete with. Ultimately, I felt like a pervert for watching from a distance.

I followed until they got to the hotel and then turned around and went home. I woke up Sunday morning and put a lock on the master bedroom door. I moved her things to the spare room and put a lock on the master bedroom door. I moved her things to the spare room and left a note asking her to find other accommodations as quickly as possible. I visited another friend who was a lawyer and he gave me some sage advice and a couple of recommendations for divorce attorneys and made the introductions. My wife has been calling me numerous times since around 11 or so. Once blocked, the calls go to voicemail.

I listened to the first couple, but felt nothing, but some satisfaction when she couldn't get through to me and she was obviously becoming concerned. So proud of him. I didn't want to go home, but I left in such a hurry that I didn't plan an overnight properly. I got home around 9, and as per my buddy's advice, I recorded the interaction. I was halfway up the stairs when she came up

from the family room asking what was going on. Could we talk? I thought we talked about this. I just answered with, I am not interested in discussing this tonight and went to bed. After not getting a response from me through the door, she left me alone. I kind of feel like a child for not talking with her and shutting the door on her, but

I just couldn't look at her. Monday, I got up and got ready for work. She was waiting for me and asked if we could discuss getting back to normal. I said, you have been doing all of the talking for the both of us for the last week. Why don't you continue and left for work? I have an appointment with the attorneys, my friend recommended for this week. I love this. She fucked around and she's finding out. Yep.

It's like, why is that worth it? You're that for one night. Why? Your whole life that you created with this person 20 years? I mean 20 years. It's, yeah, it's just you don't... I just did anyone else comment on that person saying you're treating your wife like an object? Because I don't understand how...

Unless we're missing something there, I don't understand how anyone could hear the situation and take that from that. You know what I mean? Like, there is a comment underneath, and it's someone going less than 4% to be exact, with a 92% failure rate at five years. Great statistics. That must be for Polly. I'm not sure what stat that is for. Someone else goes from the data I've gotten from my fairly large extended social friend group over the decades. That sounds about right to me. Though maybe the 92% failure is a little low,

maybe like 95%. I mean, none of that stuff even matters, though. It what matters is when people 92% failure is a little low, maybe like 95%. I mean, none of that stuff even matters though. What matters is when people have an agreement, you don't get to just change the agreement and then expect the other person to just stay with you. Yeah, that's just not how it works. It is a mutually agreed upon decision. It takes two to keep it together.

It takes two to everything. And so you can't make decisions for you your relationship just like in this sense just on your own no you committed to that person you got married took vows yeah and you're like that's that's what's funny is that like she's more than welcome to go and do whatever she wants he didn't control her no one can control her but he is more than welcome to do whatever he wants and he wants. And he wants to be in a committed relationship that's closed. And that's okay.

You don't get to call him Palace. You don't get to call him looking at women as object or toxic masculinity just because he wants a closed relationship which is what he agreed on for the past 20 years and held up his end of the bargain to in the relationship. So I just don't understand, like, I don't know if I'm missing something, but I don't know how anyone could look at it that way.

Do you, is there anything that you see that I'm missing? Like, well, I, I just found another update. Okay. Just now. Yeah, I, you always do this to me. I like, I think it's going to be the end. And so then I ramble with, we just check it out. I didn't know. I didn't know.

Well, because he posted an update a month ago and it got removed. So the one I just read is coming from, like another account that he must have made or something, I don't know. No, it's from the same account. I'm not sure how I found this update, but there was another one that got removed,

but fortunately, someone saved it and reposted it. OP has also posted on other places, on surviving in fidelity, for example, like potential waywards and the best friend. It looks like an open letter to his wife. The best friend does not have your best interests in mind. The best friend wants to validate their bad choices by encouraging you to make the same ones. The best friend lives for the drama they help create.

The best friend is titillated by the details. The best friend cultivates misery. Just go for it, you deserve it. He doesn't appreciate you, he doesn't respect you. And in my case, you faced your own mortality and you shouldn't let anyone hold you back from doing the things that make you happy. Maybe realize that you should talk with your significant other and explain what you are feeling.

You owe to them to discuss the way you're feeling about yourself, your partner, and your marriage. So it is interesting, but there is a second update. So let's get to that. My lawyer wasn't available for a few days, so I was faced with the reality of having to live with my wife in the interim. I really didn't want to go home and have any discussion, let alone a discussion about our relationship.

When I did get home, I was basically ambushed by her friends and my mother-in-law. Instead of taking the remorseful approach, they decided that a full court press was what the situation warranted. And I was basically berated by them. The best friend was definitely the ringleader, but all of them decided to say things such as she's been through a lot. You don't know what she's been through. You have no idea what it's like to face something like this.

This was a one time thing. At least she told you. She could have hidden it from you. She will never see the guy again. And my favorite, you are an asshole for what you have been putting her through the last couple of days. Wow.

She is healthy. Oh my God. She did go through something traumatic, cancer, having a total hysterectomy. That is a lot. That is, could be interpreted as losing your womanhood. But that doesn't mean you cheat. Yeah.

I just wanted it. That's the thing is like cheating. Yeah, it's cheating. She cheated. Yeah. I listened with a dumbass smirk on my face. And when there was a lull in their fury, I asked if they were all done now. Then I asked my wife if there was anyone in her circle of friends or anyone else that she forgot to tell about this. I quietly informed all of them

that I was going to sit down with their husbands and tell them about how they verbally abused me, shamed me, and tried to coherce me into staying with a cheater. After I told them to leave, I said that I had no say in the entire event. And so they have no say in whether I stay or not. Exactly. I just, why are people so stupid? Think about it. Did they really think that this was going to down and they're gonna call him an asshole

and all this stuff and he's gonna look at all of them and go, girls, you know what? You're right, I am an asshole, I'm staying now, don't worry, I'm calling it off. Divorce is done. Like what? Do people not think through the next step? Fall on your sword. Falling on your sword is always gonna be better than trying to gaslight someone and convince them that they're in the wrong.

My soon to be asked sort of apologized. She said that she regretted the entire thing. I said, there's a difference between regret and remorse. You regret what happened because of the cause and effect. You have regret because your life will never be the same. Our relationship will never be the same because you were wholly and willfully unconcerned about me and what I wanted.

She asked if I had any questions that she would answer them now, no matter how disturbing. I said that the one question I do have is why? Not necessarily why this guy, why this low-end, unattractive, unfit guy, but why someone else in the first place? She said that the cancer scared her to her core.

She felt like she was rushing towards mortality and stepping out of that tunnel was appealing. She said that after all this time of being a wife and mother and worrying about family, this was something just for her and escape. The guy was just someone who was interested in her for a long time. She knew he wouldn't say no and was completely opposite to me. I said if I was going to risk my marriage, the woman would have to be a serious upgrade from you. I told her that I saw you and him coming out of the bar that night.

I watched you walk away from the bar hand in hand towards the hotel. I said that you looked too familiar with each other and asked if there was something going on before all of this. She said no, but who knows if that is the truth or not. I said that after all of our years together, your lack of respect for me was astonishing. I finished by saying that I would never be able to look at myself in the mirror again. If I can don't at that level of disrespect and stayed with you. Good for him. I also, I don't know how I miss that they had kids. It was not mentioned. Wow. It was not mentioned prior to any of this. That is just...

Oh, wow. I said I hope we can go our separate ways amicably and that I have an appointment with the lawyer later in the week. I again asked her to find some other accommodations and she simply said, I'm not going anywhere. We are not getting a divorce. I will give you all the time you need and do whatever you need to recover from this. We will get past this. She has asked me to go to marriage counseling, which I refused.

Why would I go to counseling? I did nothing to warrant needing a therapist's advice. Everyone could use therapy, even the healthiest of couples, I will say. I had her served and gave her a notice to vacate. House is my premarital asset. Oh wow. She has moved in with her mom, but I find her constantly coming by to see if I need anything or make in suggestions like, what if we had an open relationship only on your side or three sums, which seems kind of desperate and pathetic, rebuffing her constantly and telling her that she has to call to ask permission before coming over has finally seemed to be getting through to her that there will be no us going forward. She has said that she will drag the divorce out for as long as possible, but

so far has been compliant. The worst part of all of this is telling my daughter that we are getting divorced and why, followed closely by her begging me to give her mom another chance. I am not sure I would have been afforded the same consideration if I was the one who was cheating. And I don't think so. No. I will say with all of this and everything that happened, I do understand the need to want to experience something else sexually with someone else. Like a hysterectomy and feeling like you, feeling like you lost your womanhood and your sexuality

could be tied to that. There are a lot of things I go into that. She went about this the Kimpletely wrong way. This could have been a conversation. I'm feeling uncomfortable with my body. I had major organs removed. Organes that made me a woman. Organes that helped me birth a child. Organes that made me who I am.

I was faced with death. And yeah, it was stage one. But stage one turns to death. For some people, it could have been me. It was scary. And I'm just not feeling confident in myself. I'm not feeling comfortable in my skin. I don't feel like the woman I was. Would you consider a threesome or opening the relationship? What are your thoughts? Think about it. Take your time. We can come

back to it a couple weeks, maybe a month. We've been together 20 years. What's a couple weeks? Take your time. If it's a no, we move forward. I get therapy that I need. I can come to terms with that. But you don't take all the control, all the freedom, all the choice, all the decision

away from your partner and just go forward with it. Like there's just no consideration at all. No, in the slightest. And this could have been a happy ending. They could have had a fun experience that confirmed I love my husband. Wow, I didn't need that. I do regret it.

But like she just really just stripped him from right of everything. Yeah. And I mean, that's not none of our responses to this story are to take away her experience. That's not at all. But she is a cheetah. She cheetah. Yeah. And that's just it's like shitty. Yeah. we're not like no one's saying that what she went through wasn't extremely difficult, not for a second. But like, why do you throw away the feelings of the person who loves you the most? You know, like it's, it was just complete disregard, truly.

Well, how many times has it gone the other way where I believe there's one story we read. The guy who asked his wife for a threesome and she said yes and then did it and then divorced him the very next day. There's that. Yeah. There's also a story I believe we read about a woman

who had breast cancer and her husband divorced or cheated on her because of that. Oh God. Like there's so many shitty people and it's like women are more likely to get left in terms of illness, like if they become disabled or chronically ill, women are more likely to get left. So it's like, you had this great partner, you had this great life together and you were

willing to throw it away for just one casual encounter. That's unhinged. Truly. That is like really, like I wish she could have addressed her insecurities and her feelings through therapy or like a healthy coping mechanism. And he is right.

If he would have been the one that cheated, no one would be advocating on her doorstep for him. No. The daughter would not be begging her doorstep for him though. The daughter would not be begging, mom, take them back, no. And I mean, some people are extremely sensitive like to the idea of opening up their relationship. So even if my partner asked me in a really sweet way,

like I would have a hard time even moving forward in the relationship just by them asking. I think that's the case for a lot of people. Yeah. Like, I, at this point in my life, I toil with the idea of a threesome, but I know I would never want an open relationship. Right. Yeah.

Like, that's not something I would want. And specifically, like, if my partner were to come to me and be like, there's this girl at work. And I wanna have sex with her for one night. And you don't get to have a say. Well, it just makes you gross. Yeah, it's like, I don't know how I would move forward, even if I said no.

And then my partner said, okay, that's fine. You still know they have to work together every day? Or, I mean, they said that like, he was leaving. Yeah, but like, in this. But even if they know they have to work together every day. Or I mean, they said that like he was leaving. Yeah, but like in this, but even if they don't have to work together every day, I'd be like, who's going to be the next girl that you want to have sex with? Are you just looking at girls wanting to have sex with them? Like true. It just, it hurts. It hurts me. You know, like, some people are sensitive to it. Some people aren't. And that's fine. It's fine. Whatever anyone is, it's just important to have those conversations

with people upfront when you get into a relationship. And if you change your mind later on, 20 years later in the relationship on the agreement that you guys made together moving forward, then there's ways to go about it very delicately. If she knew that she would never be able to move forward, forgive him if he said no or whatever,

and it's something she needed to do. Then it's something that she needed to really accept that like, okay, then I have to risk losing you because this is something that like my heart's telling me I need to do. And then when he decides to divorce her, she needs to let him go. Not to, I'm gonna drag my feet, you know, like.

Yeah. He just, you made the mistake. You got to look at that. I will say to maybe this is like a personal preference, but I feel like, and like thinking about this work example, I do think it's strange. Like if you want to have a threesome with your partner, I think it's strange when you come to them with someone in mind already. Exactly.

I completely agree. I just like, I think it's different versus being like, I would like to have a three sum. That sounds fun. Yeah. Are you open to it? Right. Okay.

Let's find that person together. Together. I totally agree. Like, it feels like there's almost been some lead up and like, there has to be a emotional affair. Yeah. Like, I don't, it just feels weird. And I feel like if that's like's kind of the case for you,

and you don't want to threesome and you're feeling pressured by your partner bringing you another person, that would almost be. That's kind of a red flag for me. Like, yes, that's really, I don't know, feels weird. Unless you had been like, God, she's so cute. Wow, she's so hot. Blah, blah, blah.

And then your partner goes, well, wait. I kind of have thought she's so hot. Blah, blah, blah. And then your partner goes, well, wait. I kind of have thought she's cute too. Like, what about a threesome with her? Like, but still, then it's more mutual. Yeah. But it feels weird if that person is already in mind. Like, hey, I have this co-worker. What do you think about a threesome?

Right. No. Yeah. That gives me the egg. Me too. Okay, well, that is the first half. There's a lot of updates for these stories. So, the ones we read, there's updates?

No, no, no, we had a lot of updates too. Oh, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was just going to close the boat. No, no, no, but this is going to be a long first half of the episode, like without getting to many stories, but the updates were juicy. So I hope you guys enjoyed. We will be back. Well, you can crop some of our little, no, no, no, it added to the flavor of the episode.

You said you wanted to not talk as much. So, you know, Lauren, I've come to terms with this life. There's like, there's a few things that you could crop and just, and make it shorter. We'll see how it goes. Okay, we'll see how it goes. But when we pick back up, Lauren will be starting You could crop and just make it shorter. We'll see how it goes. Okay. We'll see how it goes. But when we pick back up, Lauren will be starting with a story and then you'll see the

other, ooh, stopping your tracks ones I got. Well, I don't know. I need to ask you because there's a couple that you come. You come with options. You always reach out to the people for help. Yeah. They hook you up, they do well. Yeah. So I know you'll come prepared.

So next up, Lauren's story. Another one of this week's partners is a Thena Club. Can you toss me my little pink razor over there? I love my Thena Club razor. I don't travel without this bad boy. And it has really changed shaving for me. Prior to using this razor, my legs would get super cut up I don't travel without this bad boy, and it has really changed shaving for me. Prior to using this razor, my legs would get super cut up in grown hairs where I guarantee

I mean I was in rough shape. But the Athena Club razors have a water activated serum and there's hyaluronic acid on them. With Shea butter, so you're getting this holy grail skin care combination that leaves your legs or whatever you're shaving feeling silky smooth. And the best part about Athena Club's Razor Kit is it's only $10. And you get two blade heads, a magnetic hook for shower storage, and your choice of handle color. So you can go pink like me, or I also have lime green, purple, blue, I'm collecting them.

And another perk for Athena Club, you don't have to even think about blade refills because you can choose how often you want replacement blades shipped to you. And now you can even find them at Target. So show your skin you care with a Athena Club razor kit. Get started with a Athena Club today by shopping in store at Target nationwide. Just head to the shaving aisle to buy your razor and refills.

Okay, I think I didn't read this pregnancy one, but I got like the, the low down TLDR. So let me just open and see how long this. Do you want me to open it on the computer? So you can read big. Let's see if this works. If I start struggling, then we'll do it. Now I can show off my Taylor Swift shirt. Yay.

Hi. Okay, I'm ready. Okay. Am I the asshole for telling my roommate that her pregnancy is not my problem? The girl that I live with, K, is pregnant and is due early next year. Of course, she seems excited to have a baby, but at the same time, she has been making her pregnancy my problem. I get that the pregnancy is going to affect her physically in many ways, but Kay has been a pain in the ass to deal with. I had to throw out all the bananas because she was complaining

about how strong the smell was. She isn't helping with cooking or cleaning as much as she used to. Kay cries about almost everything and it's annoying as hell. Her pregnancy is making her vomit, which I expected. But sometimes the vomiting is pretty intense. And once she pretty much projectile vomited on the floor because she couldn't make it up to the bathroom, for which I had to clean her vomit all. No, no, no, no. You're roommates.

You're not her baby daddy? No. Oh, I'd throw up right then and there. I'd be if you can do something. No! You're roommates! You're not her baby daddy? No! Oh, I'd throw up right then and there. I'd be if you can do it with her. Something about projectile, like I think, like, throw up makes me wanna throw up, but something about projectile. Projectile.

It's so funny to me. Like, I'm- Funny? Hellerious. Oh God, okay. Anytime I've projectile vomited, I swear to God, I laugh afterwards. Like, I'm just like, I can't believe that that happens.

Yeah, I tried to I tried to pick up dog poop the other day and literally almost threw up like I can't no I can't do that's puke cat hairballs dog shit. I should say I can't smell it though So this is like if it's on the TV and they project and so it's usually in a way I don't think I've actually laughed at myself projectile vomitingvamedine, but I do, I am like, what was that? This is such a weird thought, but I wonder what the furthest range someone has project alvamedine. You need to look that one up.

Okay, let's get back to this. Okay, so over the past few months, she's been asking me to get things for her from the store, even on good days when she isn't feeling sick. When I asked her why she couldn't just get up and go to the store herself, she said that I'm not the one pregnant. So this is where I may be the asshole. Kay has been asking me to drive her to her appointments, which I did once, but then it

became a constant thing of her asking me and I kept refusing. This is what happened the other day. She asked me to take her to the clinic. I said no, I was busy that day. She kept pleading with me and finally I had enough and kind of snapped. I told her that she is the only one responsible for her pregnancy and to not make it my problem so that she needs to stop making it by asking me to constantly do favors for her. She started crying, and I left because I couldn't take it anymore. I know I may have been parched to a pregnant lady,

but I don't feel like I need to be her personal servant. Am I the asshole? No. The only thing there is she's responsible for her own pregnancy. You know, someone else did participate in that act, but it seems like she's really trying to make her roommate, her friend, like her partner, like her surrogate partner. Do you want to see the top comment? Do you have anything to add before we jump

to it? You seem very interested in it. I'm just excited to give you the top comment. I'm just really flustered by this. Like I'm wondering where the dude is. I'm just really flustered by this. I'm wondering where the dude is. I'm wondering is this the dude? The top comment. Is this your child? O.P. response. Yes. You fucking bitch. You better go to the store then. I feel like. Why do you call her roommate? I don't know. I feel like maybe this is so deceiving. Yeah. I feel like we got. Bambi's a fish. You think it's a fake one? No, we got like he kept fish. Fish says like, well, oh, am I the asshole for not helping my roommate? No, I was envisioning like these were two girlfriends. 100%. Yeah. I really think. A hundred percent, yeah. I really think that. What a freak, yeah.

I really think that he was probably trying to put it in a way of like maybe they are not together, maybe they're roommates and they just fucked, honestly. Yeah. But at the same time, that is your kid. Yeah, that is your problem. You should be driving your pregnant, whatever, with your child's to appointments, if it helps, right. You should be at the appointments, it your child to appointments if it helps.

You should be at the appointments. It's your baby too. And if you didn't want a baby, you sort of wrapped it up or you shouldn't have had sex. And I'm telling you, that's something that if somebody, let's say she deceived him and was just like, I'm on birth control. Like, you can come inside me. You know, let's say that she said something like that to him. And so that's why he's like, this is your problem. And that's why he tried to separate in the post. But I, it's not because I'm sorry, but like, you just should never do that if you don't want to have a child. You are responsible. Like even if like, she says she's on birth control, doesn't matter.

Like, do not, do not, yeah. Like, you just, yeah. Everyone needs to be responsible for that. Exactly. Oh, and reproductive health. Yeah. Like, that is truly you. Like, I don't care if someone says they're on birth control.

If you truly don't wanna kid, try wearing a condom. Yes, 99% effective and shit slips through. And maybe there's microholes. And if you use coconut oil with latex, it breaks down. Or I haven't had an issue. I don't use latex anyways, because I'm allergic to latex condoms. My vagina swells like a fucking balloon.

It's weird, dude. It's so weird. So I don't use latex. But you have options. You chose to maybe not use those options. Like we don't know, maybe he did. But then you have to deal with the consequences. That's the adult choice you made when you decided to have sex. Yeah. Exactly. That's why it will never, I will never, ever, ever buy this, this excuse that the guy is like, I didn't do it, I didn't ask for this because it's just like, if you genuinely did not want to have a child, then you have to like keep your side of the street

clean and do your due diligence. And yeah, I'm so flabbergasted that he chose to tell the story this way. I know. it is so deceiving. And someone did, someone wrote in to me, forget what it was on, but they were like, you should do a theme that is literally deceiving titles, or don't read the titles, just read the story. I'm working on it, it's gonna be good,

but that is actually crazy. One thing that really confuses me is how people can just give up their parental rights. Say he doesn't want to be involved, it's so interesting to me that you can literally just be like, I'm waving my parental rights, I want no involvement, like I'm done. That is crazy. And I know there's still certain things where they might still be responsible for child support in certain cases. I'm not a lawyer,

I don't work in a family court, but I just think that's wild that you can like make this choice to like help conceive a child and then completely walk away. Mm-hmm. And this is why I know. This, this right here,

and one of the stories I read with Justin, where this like lady was concerned about like her husband not being able to take care of a kid. This is why I think you need to be so choosy who you are willing to have sex with, but especially who you decide to have children with. Yeah. Like if you have a child with someone

and they're not capable of taking care of it, what's the point? You want to do it on your own? If you do, that's fine. Some people definitely do. Some people just do the sperm donor route and their single parents and they're happy with that. But like, I can't imagine that life.

Like, when, when you get a break, like, when, like, how do you do it? How do you do it? How do you do it? Yeah. Because I watched my mom be a? How do you do it? Yeah. Because I watched my mom be a single mom, basically, with three kids. Yeah, Jerry was in and out and, you know, he helped and was my dad.

It's part time, like, living, living, California. Yeah, he moved when I was in seventh grade. Like, that is so, at least it didn't hit your shirt. It did, it's just more see-through, so we're good. But like, that was so tough to watch my mom go through that. Yeah. And she didn't really have help from my dad, my bio dad, or Taylor's bio dad.

Matt's bio dad, no. Yeah, three is really tough too. Wow. That's a lot of kids. No, doctors apparently told her she was infertile. Wow. Yeah. Huh. craziness. Well, doctors are not always right clearly. This was also the 90s. Yeah. Early. Oh, that reminds me. Okay. I get to tell you this now. Okay. Yes. Okay. You've been waiting for two days. Oh my gosh. You guys. So I was listening to

podcasts with Mark and Jason and Andrew Huberman. And was this the nicotine episode that nicotines actually good for you, but smoking's bad? No, it was on. I haven't heard that one. But it was it was on innovative people. Huberman's crazy. Like so cool. Oh my God, he's amazing. In my humble opinion. But I anyway, so Mark Andreessen was, he's, I don't even know exactly what he was like the creator of NetSuite or something. It was about the first browser. So he's a really brilliant business guy. That's, yeah, that's irrelevant to my story.

So they were talking about innovation and why it's so hard to make changes, why there's always resistance and that there always has been in human history with any new technology that comes into the picture. And there always has been in human history with any new technology that comes into the picture. And there always will be. And a big reason is because people that created these technologies, they don't want to lose out on all the money that they made and stop making that money. And so those people that are like the bit like, you know, have platforms and voices are trying to like spread that the new technology is evil kind of thing. And various other things that he mentioned,

but when he was going through talking about the history of that, he mentioned a handful of things that have happened in the history that people have tried to like prevent people from doing. And one of them, I just can't even believe is true. It's called bike face. Have you ever heard of that? No.

So I can't remember exactly. I'd have to look at my phone. I don't remember what time period it was. But when bicycles became a thing, they were really worried that females were going to be able to be more free. They would be able to ride out of their neighborhood and they'd be able to hang out with other boys

and just have know have more just right yeah and there was a couple things behind it too they didn't it challenged um the like outfits that they already were wearing they they have to wear pants and they weren't okay with that at the time um so there was quite a lot of things so it was doctors which is where I got this from as we're talking about doctors are not always right so doctors were actually going out and got this from as we're talking about doctors are not always right. So doctors were actually going out and spreading this message to the public saying that if females, that it could happen to anyone, but that's predominantly happening to females, if they ride bicycles, that they will, because you have to focus so hard on the bicycle, that you have to make

this like jarring face where you're like teeth are clenched and whatever, and that your face will get stuck like that. And so the female will no longer be attractive. And this is insane. It's real. Like it's insane. I'm like, there's no way. I'm like, this is, I'm like,

I felt like I was being messed with. Google it completely real. Bike face. Oh my God. Yeah. Okay, back to this guy. What ends up happening with this? Is there an update? Are there more comments from OP?

So this was actually a post from Twitter that was submitted onto the two hot takes Reddit. So the only response from the original one was just you're the asshole. She's doing all the hard work making your child. The least you could do is be there for her. It seems like she's having an awful time. Are you gonna be like this when the baby comes?

Also, why don't you say she was your wife at the beginning? And then OP response? wife? Yeah, I don't know if that's what, if that was just the assumption or something, I'm not quite sure, but OP responds and says, again, her pregnancy is her responsibility. I'm waiting for the baby to come

so that we can be done with this. She is my roommate. I mean, that's what she's acting like instead of a wife. Oh, yeah, so. Oh, my God. Yeah, I don't really, like there's so much more to that story that is really confusing.

But that's all that we have from OP because everything else are just comments from people on the two outtakes. Yeah, okay, I found the post. It's eight days old. The top comment now at this point is you're the asshole for leaving out key info. You are her husband. Are you also the father of her child? Edit to add, OP is husband and father of the child? What an asshole. Honestly, this is one of the more delusional ones. Truly. I've had in a while.

Wow. What? So there's a comment here. Why then did you get her pregnant? You're the asshole. We planned on the pregnancy. What? But I didn't know that she would turn into a lazy

entitled, Unwain Emotional Child. Oh my gosh. That is wild. So here we were thinking that he was being ridiculous because he didn't expect it to happen, but it's a plan pregnancy in your acting like this. Have you ever been, do you even, have you been living under a rock? Do you not understand that pregnancies are difficult and can be extremely difficult for specific people?

Like it's not just one shoe foot fits all, and it's also hard for everyone. Like what? There's so many things that can happen during pregnancy, like from hormone changes to your body changing. Like I saw a diagram the other day of a woman's organs like in her torso, in your cavity, like normal, right? And then I saw it with a nine month baby,

your organs get pushed all different ways. Like wild. Oh my God, people lose their teeth, bones get broken, ribs get broken. Like pregnancy can be hard. Yeah. People die. People literally die in childbirth.

Yeah. Like, it's crazy. So to think like, oh yeah, she's a little lazy. Yeah, she's growing up another human inside of her. Give her some grace. And if you took vows and you said, for better, for worse, or whatever your vows were, this is what's going to throw you off. Truly wild.

So someone responds to that and they go, like they quote him and say she would turn into a lazy entitled annoying emotional child and they go so she turned into you. And I hope he goes, I'm not the one who is staying at home whining and not taking care of themselves. Whatever loser. I've been working on my my comments the past few days because, well, not my comments. I've been working on not swearing as much. I'm gonna try that too. There is one person that goes not the asshole.

She's totally using you and acting very entitled about it. You keep setting clear boundaries, and yet she continues to break them. Why doesn't she make the father of the baby take her to her appointments or ask other people? You should sit down with her when cooler heads prevail and have a serious talk about boundaries and her expectations. OP is the father though.

So OP responds he goes, I agree, I've been studying boundaries from the start and she won't budge. I don't know why she doesn't ask other people or better yet why she doesn't do it herself. I'm not her cook or her chauffeur or her nurse. Wild. See this is why I actually ask questions like this maybe too early but when I'm dating somebody I like to make that expectation clear. So with my boyfriend now, I have made comments like that. I'm like, when we have a baby, if we have a baby,

I hope you know that I'm gonna expect a lot from you. Like, I wanna be hampered, like, yeah. I struggle enough as it is with basic health right now. Like I am a mess like me pregnant I don't know if I'll I don't know if I'll make it. I don't know you will But like I'm gonna need a lot of support. Yeah, I'm a lot of support I believe in you you have a lot of stamina, but that's the thing with this. It's like what did you I'm very very Here's what he expected heard act like that's what I'm saying what a weirdo. It's like, what did you... I'm very, very curious what he expected, heard act like.

That's what I'm saying. What a weirdo. Because it's like, don't you understand the world? Like, where have you been living? Have you not been... Did he grow up on a farm of like 30 guys? And that was it. I just don't... I don't understand how you don't get it. This is why, like, I really do think... Yeah, we all know when you make generalizations like obviously it's

not all men but I really do think like a lot of guys out there do not like women they like like they're attracted to women because like that's their sexuality it's not really a choice they're attracted to women they want to sleep with women but it's like do you even like her? I just saw a post on that today actually on TikTok. And it was pretty good. She had a lot of good things to say. And I think it goes back to a lot of, I mean, going back to fucking bike face, it's like they also, they did stuff to men too to suppress men as well. It's like men were not allowed to show emotions, otherwise they would be looked at as a pussy

or they'd call them a girl and they didn't want to be a girl. They weren't supposed to be their girl. They were supposed to be a man. And so this girl was talking about how when they tell boys to be men, they don't ever tell them what it means to be a man. They tell them what it means not to be a man. Don't be a girl, you're being a girl. She didn't mean. Yeah, don't ever tell them what it means to be a man. They tell them what it means not to be a man. Don't be a girl, you're being a girl.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, don't be so sensitive. Exactly. And so that is something that everybody I think is starting to realize, but not everybody is catching on, and it's a lot of work to on work that. Oh my god, it's hundreds and hundreds of years.

Yeah, exactly. And so I think with people that don't respect women, that like women, they like, you know, the sexual aspect of women, they do want to pair with a woman, but they don't actually respect women. I think those people are so deep rooted in this really negative, um, exact what I just said. Yeah. I, yes, enough said.

Like, say less. Literally, I think that is very spot on. And something I've realized lately is like, men don't feel they can express their emotions. Men do suffer with their mental health. They don't feel like they have close relationships with other men. And that is incredibly sad because they deserve that. They absolutely 100% deserve that. But it's really sad because that men are like that

and they don't have those things because men put themselves in that box because they're willing to engage in this patriarchy. That does benefit them, typically, except in those regards. Like, right? Like, it's just sad. Like, you don't have to be like that.

Yeah. You can have close relationships and emotional support and intimacy and it's okay to cry and yeah. And I think that we'll see a lot of that in the next generation. There's going to be a lot of change. In the next generation, I think we'll see a lot of that because it is becoming really topic of conversation and how that information is so easily accessible. I think that it will start to slowly be broken down. But as of right now, we're still going to come

across people that are so wrapped up in their own self-ego image, negative self-talk that they need to bring down the woman that they are supposed to love the most, you know, because marrying this woman is... Well, and like you said, change takes so much time. Oh yeah. Okay, ready for our next one? Yeah. Another one of this week's partners is Vegemore.

Taking care of my hair and growing it out is something I have been so passionate about for the past couple of years, especially since getting COVID and having all of it, basically fall out. And I feel like Vegemore has been my perfect solution with their clean ingredients and amazing biotin gummies. With Vegemore, I feel like my hair has been shinier, fuller, I've got some new growth, it just feels strong and healthy.

And as if that's not benefit enough, the brand itself is 100% cruelty free and never formulated with potentially harmful chemicals like parabens or hormones. Vega more sent me the grow essentials kit and that's been really great so far, especially the shampoo and conditioner and like I said the biotin gummies are my bestie, they taste good, I've been having Justin take them to grow his hair too and he needed a haircut after three weeks so I think it's working. And the key to any good hair care routine and getting your hair healthier and growing

is consistency. So the best time may have been starting yesterday, but the second best time is today. So if you want to start taking care of your hair, give Vegamore a try. Give your hair the power of the little pink bottle with Vegamore. For a limited time, two hot takes listeners get 20% off their first order by going to vegaMor.com slash THT. I news code THT at checkout. That's vegemour.com slash THT. Code THT to save 20% on your first order vegemour.com slash THT. Code THT. Okay, so this one is two months old. Coming from R slash Am I the X?

It's a community to cross post when people don't realize or can't accept that they've been dumped by their romantic partner. Unsure if the story actually fits in the sub based on the title though. 36 male, 33 female. He thinks he isn't obligated to tell me about his criminal record, trigger warning, Necrofilia. I recently found out that my husband was convicted before we met. Four of all the things in this world, Necrofilia. Yes, really. I've been utterly disgusted and in shock Wait, I'm sorry Necrofilia so for those that aren't familiar with the term necrofilia

sexual intercourse with or attraction towards corpses. Oh, what no Wow, I've heard of that before I didn't know that was the word When I confronted him about it, plus also never bothering to say anything, all he would say was that was the past and it didn't matter to the present because he wouldn't do it again. I asked had he ever thought I might want to know something like that, or that he'd want to know it about me

or anyone else he was thinking of marrying. He said he wasn't obligated to share anything about his past, including this. I didn't even know what to say to how insane that was. The whole time he was nothing but defensive and angry at me, for daring to have a problem with it. So, like tell me, am I controlling an entitled and everything else he accused me of? Of course, you have the right to know about any serious perverted criminal history your partner has and oh, your partner, the same honesty. That's common sense and basic trust, is it not?

I can't believe this was even an argument I needed to have. Yeah. Well, it's obviously not. He doesn't. He's just defensive because what else he's in how could yeah Basically, I almost feel like I was tricked into this relationship and marriage Yeah, because I never got the chance to let it be the deal breaker It would have been yeah if that makes sense and I'm certain he knew it would have been and that's exactly why he hit it

So what the fuck now? I married and eight months pregnant. I'm fucked. I either blow up my life with the man I fell in love with or I find a way to work through this somehow. What should I do? How do I get him to realize he should have been up front early on about something? Everyone knows would be a deal breaker for most people. He'll exactly. he's never gonna admit that. Why would he ever tell anyone that because he knows that it is a deal breaker? You know what I mean? Like, it's like, she's like, how do I get him to realize that?

He's not going to because he knows that she'd be gone and then he wouldn't be have this child on the way. So it's like the most, I mean, honestly for me, that's, it's not a non-starter or like, it's an immediate exit. He says it's the past, but that is something that is terrifying to me. I would leave immediately because that's something that sounds, that's what's the guy who was on Netflix that had a show about him?

Was it Domer that you, like, was, that would have sex with? I'm not sure I couldn't get through Domer. Yeah, I didn't either, but I just know that there was, you know, one of those people that would literally, like, his victims, he would do that so that he could have sex with them afterwards.

Yeah. So that, to me, I would be terrified. I'm like, nauseous. Yeah, it wouldn't even just be like that nauseous alone because that's obviously a part of it, but it would be that I'd be terrified. So I would dip out. I just wouldn't be able to do it. Like that's something.

I would be done. Is did he give any background into what happened? Like how do you even get into that situation? How did he just go into a, I just don't, I know. Like literally stop in your tracks. Yeah, I'm proceed Yeah, okay, so this was a cross post it originally came from a relationship advice two months ago The top comment is I think there's plenty of offenses people can come back from or at least explain away But necrophilia isn't one of them. It was at one time

Is that what they, what is he saying? Not like it matters, but I'm just out of curiosity. Yeah, let me see. So there are still comments from OP up on their account. I will just read this original comment on the repost that they like really highlight. There isn't edit from OP July 29. I couldn't sleep in the same bed with him. I went to a hotel and still couldn't sleep.

I just lay away crying and thinking, I'm going to divorce him because I know I'll never forget this. Nor should I. What the fuck is wrong with him? And who did I even marry? Today I'm going to find a lawyer and find someone I can stay with.

I can't reply to so many comments, but we'll try to read at least responses to mine. lawyer and find someone I can stay with. I can't reply to so many comments, but we'll try to read at least responses to mine. Thank you more than I can say to everyone who took the time to try and help. I will do everything in my power to make sure my baby is safe from him. So the repost highlights this one. In the comments, she mentions he worked at a hospital

with access to a more, got it. And it was done to a 60 year old man. Commenters pointed out that for anything minor and maybe forgivable, the charge would have been abuse of a corpse while necrophilia is specific pretty to sexual penetration. So he got caught because there was cameras or not, doesn't mention in this comment. It goes on to say it was a misdemeanor in his state.

Apparently that's common with the fuck. The crime was found when her judges, all my relationships mother did a background check. OP is sick to her stomach. Sorry, OP's mother did a background check? Yeah. What did she have a feeling? I don't know.

So lots of of lots of comments from OP. Apparently, there's like a lot of people just trying to like dig into this. What about the experience like made him not decide to do it again? Like they really wanted to know like what was the thought process behind this? And that's where OP shares like he used to work in a hospital with more access. He doesn't know why he did it, except being young and stupid. He said it was a mistake. Was it, I don't know if this is a weird question to ask,

but like, why did, if he's straight, because if he's straight, why did he pick a guy out of all, that also kind of is, not even, not even matters, but like I'm just kind of trying to think of his thought process. It's just so, I feel really uncomfortable right now. I don't know. Wow. So someone does share.

I also discovered an extremely disturbing sex crime of my ex-husbands and learned all this through therapy. It will be okay. Once you leave him and have that step back, you will admit many other issues related to this directly or indirectly. That are bothersome to you about this man. It will be okay for you and your child, but leave him. It's seriously deviant.

And OP goes, what had your husband done and how did you find out? What are some examples of issues I might realize related to it? There's no response from that commenter. Someone goes, not adding to your pain, but just something to think about. Was it a dead body of a child? See, we don't even know the disgusting details. I don't think you'd want to raise a child

with this sociopath. Right. And OP goes, no, it was a man in his 60s. Both of those are also freaking me out. But obviously way less important compared to the obvious. Yeah, of course. But yeah, but it is, it is an add-on because it's just like, unless he's bisexual, it is kind of like, okay, wait, why did you choose a man if you only like woman? Why did the whole thing happen? It's just it's all so young and dumb. No rational, healthy, sane person would ever choose to have sex and violate a corpse to rape a corpse.

How young is he sane? It doesn't mention from what I'm seeing. There is context that they've been married about a year and a half were together for two years before. So three and a half years should be real easy to move on, especially given this info. Sucks that you have a child with this person. And I'm trying to picture if there's even an age that's young enough to it being like,

that's yeah, just being a dumb, young idiot. But like, I really can't. Like, no matter what age you are, it's a red flag. Yeah, well, and someone goes, did he legit have sex with a dead body? We need more details. Also, has he given you an explanation as to why he fucked a corpse? No, he raped a dead person.

Yeah, wild. And OP goes, quote, I was young and stupid. I fucked up, okay. His words, he literally would not explain more. I'm not seeing a mention of an age. I mean, he's 36 now. It just, it definitely feels like sociopathic behavior in all the details. I don't even know like the true definition right now.

Like my DSM five is escaping my brain, but holy shit, like I would not be able to trust my child with this person. No. And it's like to be that sick and twisted. I wonder is she able to take full custody? I'm sure given that criminal record. I'm, but because it was a misdemeanor in the state that he received it, it's really interesting that it was, yeah, that's messed up. It's also interesting that a crime like that doesn't put you on a sex offender registry, to where she would have found out based on, hey, you can't live in this neighborhood without notifying your neighbors.

It's wild how certain things like this slip to the cracks. Yeah. Also, like, this is so random. I started going on this website called Unclaimed Property to try to find out if I have any money out there that's owed to me. And so I was like searching everyone's names. And I'm like, Morgan, I'm sure, okay, nope, no money for me. My dad, my dad's got some stuff out there.

And then I looked up Justin and there's like $100 or like a dollar. It has a one in the number, I don't know. Oh, to Justin Thunstrom in Yuka, California. And I'm like, Justin's never lived in Yuka. Weird. Who is this? Does he have a secret family? No.

I think my brother, like, did that before too and some of the link and I think that he told me that I had like a hundred dollars somewhere too. So I don't really understand how those works and I don't have another secret family. So you're good there. So don't think you should worry. Thank God. Okay, we cannot end on this story. Well, actually, I was going to give you a little bit of a buffer out.

I saw this post today. And it was talking about, it was like, men, if you could choose a sound that your dick would make. it could make when you get hard. What would it be? And the broke. Yeah, the post. I was going to ask you, I was going to ask you what you think would be funny is. And the first thing that came to my head is if it was like beep. Oh my God, but the post said something like I love the goat noise. I use that sometimes for TikToks. Can you imagine if that actually was a thing though? Like if that actually was a thing though? If it made sounds, honestly, that would be hilarious because there's so many guys that get boners in public.

Yeah, I know. I think that would be so funny. I've always had this really big fear that someone around me is psychic and can read my thoughts. That is the weirdest fear I've ever heard. That is like, I think about it constantly in public. Wow. Like, for what? That is the weirdest fear I've ever heard. That is like, I think about it constantly in public. Wow. It's like for what?

That is something, sorry, I don't mean that's the weirdest ever. No, it's really weird. And not that my thoughts are like perverse, like this last guy or super deviant, but it's like, I just like, I don't know, it would be so mortified if someone could hear my thoughts. Well, honestly, I think it's kind of a cool fear

because it's you showing that you believe in like superheroes or like magic, you know? 100%. And so that's kind of... I believe in every day. Every thing in anything you can believe in, I pretty much believe in. I'm not like a hard believer in anything, you know.

You believe in ghosts though and stuff like that. Well, I don't even know what I believe. I'm not like, I'm not like a hard believer. Okay. And these things that are unknown, but I'm not a not believer. Yeah, that makes so much of a skeptic. Yeah, I'm like very, like, not like Justin. Aliens, for example, like I could believe that they exist and I can believe that they don't exist.

Like I'm just very open to the idea that either could be true. Oh, okay. Yeah, so I feel that way with a lot of those type of things. Our episode, our spooky episode, we're about to record after this is going to be great. No, nothing's scary. We're doing spooky light mode. Spooky dark mode is coming later. Thank God I won't be there.

Yeah, you're in for spooky light. It's more so like crazy, paranoid, creepy, but nothing bad, bad. Okay, okay. Let's get one last one in here before we end this because that was absolutely horrific. Another one of this week's partners is Stitch Fix.

You guys know I'm struggling with clothes lately and feeling good in them and not having any of my clothes fit me. When Stitch Fix reached out, I was so excited. Having a personal stylist, I don't even have to go shopping, I don't have to pick things out. I send them my inspo that I find on social media, and they take the rest from there. Chef's kiss. Stitch Fix has been amazing and the box I got was full of goods that I actually loved and wanted to keep. I got an amazing, wrap-knit dress that I brought on this trip and it's been so comfy and cute. And I love that with StitchFix. I could try everything on at home in the comfort of my home,

not be embarrassed by dressing rooms that don't even have mirrors in them. And if you're getting curious and want to try it for yourself, StitchFix has sizes extra small to three XL and there's thousands of brands and styles. So no matter what you're into, you're gonna find it or your stylist will. The whole process with StitchFix has been super easy, even sending back an item I didn't love, and I love that they gave me a little style card

with everything they sent me with a bunch of different ways to wear it. So when I'm feeling stuck, I've got options. So thanks StitchFix, You guys just get me. And they'll get you guys too. Try today at stitchfix.com slash THT. And you'll get 25% off when you keep everything in your fix. That's stitchfix.com slash THT.

Stitchfix.com slash THT. Okay. So this last one. It is titled, Amma the Ashole for not paying for my friend's eyelash extensions for her wedding. My 26 female best friend, 25 female, I'll call her Callie, is getting married in a week, and I'm one of her bridesmaids, while our other best friend, 26 female, I'll call her Sam, is the maid of honor.

They're my best friends, and I've been through literally everything in my life with me. I can't say Callie has been a bridezilla by any means, but she does have a very specific look in mind for her special day. I was told I needed a strip all of the color out of my hair. It was blue and is now a chestnut brown. And how to get a new foundation to cover up my tattoos as well as shapewear? I did all of this because it's her day. And it's not hard to redie my hair after this or put foundation on my tattoos. Okay, the shapewear though, like had to put on shapewear. What the fuck?

The actual problem happened yesterday. Callie made an appointment for her, Sam, and I to get eyelash extensions because it will make the day easier, less makeup to worry about, and we all suck at putting on falsies. Callie had asked all of her bridal party if we wanted to go, and only Sam and I said yes. To put it frankly, all of Callie's savings and money is going towards the wedding, so as she is currently low on funds to an extent. And Sam has never actually been good at saving money.

Meanwhile, I'm decent enough that I have some savings set aside and a low budget specifically for this wedding. I figured Callie had put aside money for these extensions and didn't think about it past my money. As we were checking out with our lash girl, I paid for mine and Sam paid for hers, but Callie just stood there looking at me. I asked her what was up, and she just said, waiting for me. I asked what she meant, and that we should hurry up because we had a lunch thing to get to. She said she couldn't pay for her lashes, and that she thought I knew and would be paying for them.

I said that I was not aware, and that I should have been told beforehand, because I couldn't just pay for sets of $200 lashes. them. I said that I was not aware and that I should have been told beforehand because I couldn't just pay for sets of $200 lashes. She said she assumed I would just know because of how much money had already gone into the wedding. And Sam obviously couldn't pay for it. I said I would not be doing that because I simply cannot afford it. If this had taken place before next week, it would have been more likely, but I can't now. She started raising her voice and dug out her wallet and paid with her credit card. Sam pulled me aside and said that it was shitty of me to not just pay for it, and that I knew what this wedding meant to Callie. I said

if it meant that much, why didn't Sam just pay for it then? I was told by the both of them that maybe it was best if I didn't go to lunch, pay for it then. I was told by the both of them that maybe it was best if I didn't go to lunch and that they would talk to me in a couple of days. I know that this wedding means a lot to Cali. She has always wanted to be married, but I don't think it's fair of her to assume I would pay for the extensions

just because she has stretched her budget then. However, if I am in the wrong, I will find a way to make up for this, pay her back or something. So, Reddit, am I the asshole? What do you think? No. This is not your friend.

Yeah. I mean, I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's just really hard for me to wrap my mind around the way that people get with weddings. I would never expect you to pay for anything for my wedding. Ever. Like even my bridesmaid stresses, like I fully expect to pay for those. Like I think that's not usual for a lot of people.

I think usually you pay for your bridesmaid stress. But if the bride wants your hair or makeup done a certain way, they should pay for that. Yeah, I think, like, so one of my really good friends, her wedding, she had a makeup artist and a hair stylist there. And she said, if you guys want to get your hair and makeup done, you can and purchase it. And if you don't want to and you want to do your own hair and makeup, like, that's great. So whatever you want to decide. And I think that's awesome, because I don't think

she should have to pay for my hair and makeup. But you know what I mean? But also, I don't think I should have to either if I would rather do my own. Yes. So I just think that's how it should be. It's like you should give people options to do what they feel most comfortable with. And then if you are not going to give them an option, then you should give people options to do what they feel most comfortable with and then if you are not

Gonna give them an option then you should pay. Yeah I think it's weird to like ask your friend change your hair cover your tattoos shapewear So you're calling me ugly fat and you don't want me in your wedding because I'm your friend Why do you want me in your wedding? If you're asking me to change, everything about myself, that makes me me. Yeah. Just the most like... I have never really don't like that type of bridesilat behavior.

Oh, and then her being like, well, she hasn't been that much of a bridesilat. No, this is probably one of the worst are ones we've had. I spent some really bad ones. There's been terrible ones, but this is bad. And I'm a shapewear girlie. Like I love my shapewear. I should never force someone to wear that's so wrong. No, like I would never inflict that on someone else.

I love it, holds me in, makes me feel nice. I got this nice thong shapewear from Amazon. It was like 14, 20 bucks out somewhere in there. Magical. Goes with everything. Oh, I just got one. I wonder if I got the same one. I haven't tried it on yet, but so good.

My skims shapewear fucking fire. Nice. Is it bad? No. I truly do love it. And like I wore it out in Duluth. And my sister-in-law was like, oh my God, what is this? Skimsams maybe.

It would just be so funny. You just started going into an ad right now. There could be one before this story, but likely not. But maybe, I'm not sure. But I truly love it. I love shapewear. I wear like spanks shorts under all dresses. I hate my legs, chafing together.

I live in shapewear. Shapewear should be my name. I want to start using it because I feel like I like to stuff on me. I love being like impressed. Same. I might underlay her. I always get like this like a size too small for me if it's like yoga pants or something because I just like to feel like I'm like

getting like sucked in. I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know why. And my roommate does not like that. She wants it to be completely just like looser or like, you know, whatever. And for me, I just like to just, yeah. It feels safe to me.

I really want like a sleep sack and adult sleep sack. I saw one at REI the other day, but it's for outdoors. What is that? It like literally looks like, you know, those like, uh, snow suits used to put babies in that are like really puffy and like one piece is, it looks like that, but for an adult version. Okay.

And it just looks so nice, but I know I'd get overheated in it. So I have to find like a cool version. Okay. Top comment on this one, not the asshole. No one informed you about this in advance. And even if they had, it's not on you to pay for the bride's hair,

slash makeup type things. Traditionally, the bride pays for that sort of thing for the bride's maids. Not your fault she's spending more than she'd like. And OP goes, she for sure had not asked prior. She paid for my dress and shoes, but that's it. Which is like, maybe ask your bride's maids to pay for their dresses, and then you take care of all your shit. But maybe she just got to a point where she didn't realize

how fast she was going through money and is now scrambling. But I think that that other friend pulling her aside and being like, you should have paid for this. Yeah. Why are you getting, getting up on me too? If you're so, if you think she should get a paid for, you pay for it.

Yeah. Or split it with me. You be like, hey, want to split it? Right. You know, what I don't like is that she said, don't come to lunch and we'll talk in a few days. Like that's really gross behavior. Don't walling her, they're bullying.

That's bullying. That's bullying. That's bullying. We have an update. Okay. I took a couple of days after posting to think of how I wanted to proceed. And then I took a chance and texted Callie and Sam

asking if we could meet up. They agreed and we went to a coffee shop. As soon as I got there, they were both there and were whispering about something. And as soon as they saw me, they stopped. In that moment, I realized, that's how it's always been. A joined at the hip, whispering together and stopping when I walk in, never taking me seriously.

And it was like a switch flipped in that moment. I stopped caring. After getting my coffee, I sat down and we kind of just stared at each other before I finally asked if either of them felt bad about how they treated me. They both seemed surprised and asked how I got to that conclusion. Good, I love that, stand up yourself.

I said that I had had time to think about it. And while I felt bad that Kali had been having a dip into her emergency fund, that was not my fault. No, nor my problem. Nope. If anybody's, it was Sam's because she was the maid of honor. I said I had been more than accommodating, changing my hair, getting a specific foundation to cover my tattoos, getting shapewear when it makes me uncomfortable.

All of it to make her day amazing. They tried to interject, but I just shook my head. I told them that they had been my best friends for a very long time, but probably too long. I went on to list a bunch of times, they made me feel like shit, which I won't bother you with here, but I ended up saying I wouldn't be attending the wedding in any capacity.

And Callie could pick up the shoes, the dress, the shapewear, and the foundation from my mom's house because I was done. They started panicking and tried apologizing, but I just got up and asked them to please not talk to me for the foreseeable future and left. Wow, good for you. I love that. They both tried to call and text me for days afterwards, but I ignored it.

I got a bunch of texts from the other bridesmaids who clearly had not been told the full story and texted all four of the others with the full story. I didn't hear anything back, but got a bunch of calls and voicemails from Cali, and let's just say they were not nice. I finally texted her and told her her attitude towards all of this just proved my point and that I didn't think we could be friends anymore. I guess the wedding went on as planned, which I guess I'm glad for. And to everyone who is upset about me changing my hair, I'm happy to inform you. It is now neon pink. I think that's it.

I'll be moving states with my boyfriend in about a month and I'll be cutting contact with Sam as well. So I don't expect anything else will come from any of this. Thank you to every single one of you and I hope the update is what most of you wanted. It's definitely not what I expected, but it is what I think needed to happen. Yeah, good for her. That's really, really hard to do. And actually, what I was telling you about, we have a listener who wrote into me and was

talking to me about her situation with her current roommate. And do you want me to quickly tell you what it is? Yeah, what it is. I think people, it's kind of fits into our like Reddit type of stuff. In my opinion, she responded to one of my stories and said, I'm bawling right now. It was just a cute little inspirational post. She said, I'm bawling right now, living with my roommate has been such a struggle so much to the point where I get anxiety every day when she comes home because I don't know what mood she's gonna be in or how she's gonna treat me.

Our lease is up in November and I can't wait to let go of this guarded person that I've become for the last three years. This video is so powerful and made me realize the war is almost over. Truly, I don't know if I've ever had a person be so mean to me before her. On Mother's Day, she was extremely mean to me. And that day is so fucking hard for me because I don't have a mom. So when I called her out for it, she responded with, well, my mom's not dead, how am I supposed to understand? And fuck you. Yeah, to that girl. Yeah, I know. My mom is not dead. How do you have a soul? Literally. Does she have a soul? Literally. I'll be your mom, me and Lauren. Yeah. The mommy's. I know. And that wasn't even the last thing. And then the roommate also said that she needs to, in quotes, cope with the death of my mother

who died 18 years ago. Ever since then, I've been able to cope with my fucking fist. Yeah, face. Ever since then, I've been really protective of myself and my heart because, fuck, can you even imagine saying that to someone? Oh, and she also compared my mother's death to her animal's death, which is

truly the same. Yeah, she goes, which is truly sad, but no death is comparable to the other, to be honest. No, yeah, no, not even close. And I think there's a difference between your mother versus your pet. I think everyone. Yeah, I think everyone besides this fucking crazy person can realize that because this fucking crazy person can realize that. Animals are family. But like your mom, right. Right, and she was so nice about it too. She goes, like she goes, which is truly sad, you know. So just even God, you have way more grace than I do.

Right? Wow. So the plan is to get a place for just my boyfriend and I. Technically all three of us live together now, but I know she's gonna freak out when we say we're moving out, even though it's very obvious. The least renewal has been sitting on the counter ever since I got back from my trip last week.

My family thinks that she's just jealous of me, but it's like, homegirl. Everything I have, I had to work so hard for. Nothing was given to me, like she thinks. I don't know why she thinks that too, because she's known me for eight years. Oh, and on my boyfriend and my four-year anniversary in April, she got mad, like visibly angry,

that we went out to dinner and didn't invite her. On their four-year anniversary? Yeah, she's got some screws loose. Yeah. I feel like the moral of the story with a lot of these, like, stopping your tracks today is like, realize your worth. Like, you are worthy of a happy, healthy, loving relationship. Yeah.

Whether that's your friends, your family, your roommates. Yeah. Like, I'm still baffled by that guy calling his pregnant wife his roommate so insane. But just like, life is so short and It's just not worth dealing with that toxicity. No, and it's I'm just that's why I was really proud to hear that that girl standing up to her long-time friends because I think that it's it is really really hard for You know when somebody's has somebody in their life for a very long, whether it's a friend or a family member or whatever,

it's really, really hard to cut ties. And so for her to do that, takes a lot of courage and for her to realize that she, it's a relationship that's not serving her anymore. Yeah, completely. Well, that is all we have for you guys. Thank you so much for joining us on another episode of Two Hot Takes.

This episode is likely coming out around September 21st, to which, again, if you're in Minnesota, we have that live show at the University of Minnesota on the 26th. It might show up on Patreon afterwards. I'm not too sure yet, but we might be taking the week off that week as well, just depending on my mental health. I need a little bit of a break. So we'll see. I might not let you down. I don't know, but it's all I got. Love y'all. Thank you for being here Love you guys so much. Until next time. Bye. Bye you