Two Hot Takes - 134: Spooky Lite Edition..

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guests co-host Lauren and Alejandra! This episode features stories that have bring in the spooky season with a few light, easier stories. While they may not be the scariest stories, they're still baffling, especially the time traveler.. Thoughts on these ones? Time Traveler Sources: Joe Scott's Version!!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH3lkiq4WqI https://www.infinityexplorers.com/amazing-case-sergei-ponomarenko-time-traveler-kiev/ https://inf.news/en/world/7387360a2a44a5b811d8b254e23d4654.html Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Bonus Content on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes Our SubReddit to Submit YOUR Stories!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes

Okay, cracking the cider. That was so crisp. Hey, Sommar, for you fall people out there. We have the Gord Tree Pumpkin Cider from Trader Joe's today. It's fire. Who else do we have? Who do I have over here on my left? Hi.

Hey. We're getting the intro done right away before we forget and get to the end. And we're like, you guys, we forgot to introduce ourselves. I don't think I've ever had an intro in the beginning. It's always at the end. Here's your time to shine. Wow, I'm Lauren. I'm Alejandra.

And I'm Morgan. Welcome back to another episode of Two Hot Takes You Guys. This episode is spooky light edition. And we're hoping that it actually is light. And don't get mad at me because it was apparently already this theme, and she's going to do a much scarier one. But I tried to opt out because I did, I texted her, and I was like, I'm sorry, I just can't. You said you've literally been having nightmares since it was mentioned. It's so yeah, the past two nights, I haven't had nightmares. I just can't. You said you've literally been having nightmares since it was mentioned. It's so, yeah, the past two nights, I haven't had nightmares.

I just like, now when I hear something in my room, like a noise, I just get like startled, just knowing because the last, I don't know if you listen to the episode that me, her, and Justin did last year. It was at the haunted hotel. At the haunted hotel and I slept there. That was just scary.

No, that was this. No, I don't. Look away. Look away. But that was like, you see my head, I was like, no, no, no, no, cut me, cut me. Oh my god. It was the scariest shit ever.

And it took me months. Like, there was this one story about a little boy who there was this ghost who was telling him he needs to keep the closet door open. And so the little boy was like, no, like, he needs it. And whatever. I literally kept my closet door open at night for months after that,

because I was afraid that if I kept it closed, that like the shit would happen. Something that would open. I like got so freaked out by that episode and then staying in the haunted hotel. There was so many eerie things that happened when I stayed there. And Justin and Morgan left, like I slept there. Yeah, so I was really hesitant about this episode.

Yeah, well this one's coming out end of September. So it's like, I feel like October hits and then it's really like spooky season. But some people are ready for that like light intro, diving into some eerie, creepy, paranormal-y feeling stuff. So that's kind of what we're going with today. So it's spooky light edition. Spooky dark edition will be coming in October

with someone who can really handle the terrible, the dark, the scary. There you go. So it's gonna be a good one. There's some really cool stories, one of which I like really researched and had to like write my own story. It was a whole thing.

So I'm really excited to share that, but Alejandra has one and she'll be starting. What? You don't wanna wanna start? No, I need you to set the tone and tone. I'll start. I'll have to go second and then we'll pass it back. Okay. Sorry before you guys continue. Yeah. My headphones gave out but I didn't want to say it out. They chopped out. I didn't want to say it out of weird time but they're not on at all. They don't work at all. They

said enough is enough. We'll fix that. I've heard enough. Are you ready though besides that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We'll fix that. I've heard enough. Are you ready though besides that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Let's dive in. Let's do it. Okay. What if you did like a, like a little like twist on the intro song and it was like spookier like, but like with an organ, you know what I mean? Do I just fucking tied that? I'm if it can go wrong, it's going wrong. No, it's good. Sure. Yeah. Just gonna keep going down like a flash of dick.

Sorry, that was a scary noise. That was that was a scary thing all episode. What like how did that just come to your mind? Out of everything you could have said, side going down. Just, just side going down. I've just got your mind right now. Well, it just seemed like that vibe, you know? That, no.

Literally no. Literally no. Yeah, not at all. Oh my gosh. Okay. So for the first one, the first two are going to be kind of short, sweet kind of to get I don't know. I don't know. Not at all. Oh my gosh. Okay. So for the first one, the first two are going to be kind of short, sweet kind of to get us in there.

So this is coming from a listener. It is titled Someone Whispered in My Year at the Cemetery. I used to live in Connecticut in the area where a lot of the events that the con dream movies were based on took place. Ed and Lorraine Warren were even buried 20 minutes from my house. I don't know if it's even widely known, but Lorraine Warren intentionally had her and Ed buried in one of the most haunted cemeteries in the area, possibly even the state. While we were bored one day, my mom and I decided to visit the cemetery and look for their

headstone. We knew what it looked like, but I didn't know where it was. We walked through the cemetery twice and could not find it, so we gave up and started to leave. My mom was walking in front of me, and as I was walking to the car, something made me stop dead in my tracks. I got chills down my neck, and a wispy voice that sounded like a low whisper said, look, it's over there. When I looked over, I looked directly at the headstone and said it's right there and walked straight to it without missing a beat like I had been there 10 times before.

What the fuck? That's some ghost guiding, maybe it was Lorraine herself. Tweetered vibes. Weird vibes. Haven't you seen Teslas driving through cemeteries and like all of a sudden it'll see a person next to it? No. The way Morgan's like so having you see like like yeah yeah. It went super viral. No. Yeah. And there was like even like a horse that showed up in one of the cemetery videos. Wait hold on. The Tesla did why? Essentially people would take their Teslas

and drive through cemeteries. Why? For fun. What? I don't know. And as the Tesla would be driving through the cemetery, all of a sudden, people would pop up, like little things on the Tesla map. And usually it does that if you're driving on the street and someone's walking on the sidewalk, it'll tell you, like, oh, there's a person or a person crossing the street in front of you. It'll tell you that on the Tesla map. So they're driving through the Cemetery's and all of a sudden people keep popping up

and then popping up and disappearing. And they're in a cemetery, they're videoing. No. No one's there. That's spooky. That's insane. That's a spooky story. How much would it take you guys to sleep in a cemetery?

A lot of money. I think I'd do it for a thousand bucks. I would have to be like way more than that. Like what's your number? The first thing I thought was a million. Really? Yeah. But then when I think about it, if someone

I'm going to give you $50,000 to go sleep in cemetery, I also feel like I wouldn't say no. You know? I mean, you slept in the haunted hotel in Riverside. Like, you'd be fine in the cemetery and I learned from that experience Learned the hard way. It was terrible Okay up next So this is coming from our slash paranormal it is 18 days old

It is titled my hospice patient that showed me her spirit before and after her death I was a hospice RN for 17 years and had so many spiritual experiences. One incident I was working in the hospice in patient unit where we had 10 beds for the patients. I had one woman who was actively dying. As I passed by her room, I peeped in and saw her sitting on the side of her bed smiling. I walked on by, then stopped, recalling, she's not been doing so well. Also, she was missing a leg, and when I just saw her a few seconds prior,

she had both legs. I backed up and looked in the room, and she was still laying in bed. I thought maybe I had seen her soul getting ready to leave the body. She looked so happy. After the end of my shift, I went home. When I walked in my house, there she was, standing in my hallway. She had both legs, looked at least half her age and was smiling so brightly. I stood there, smiled at her, thanked her for giving me a visit, then she faded away. I called work and told them to go in and check on her, then hers came back to the phone and confirmed she had passed. I felt so blessed she chose to touch in

and share her joy passing on. That's crazy. Full chills. I love that. This user actually, like share to YouTube video of them telling this event too. They started a YouTube channel. I'll be cooking and sharing spirit stories from my life.

Wait, so this person sees spirits often? It sounds like it. I mean, they were a hospice nurse for quite some time. The channel is called Uncle Dave's Kitchen. Ooh, yeah. That's so interesting. I mean, I'm at like, to see a casual ghost like that. I mean, I would think my mind's playing tricks on me.

Do you know? I just, I don't know. I can't imagine that. But like, how beautiful is that? Like, that's probably one of the happier ones. I think we've ever had. Yeah, absolutely. I really like it.

I like having stories like this that are refreshing that make death feel like happier and not so scary. Because I think about that. I think about death way too much. Like all the time. I'm like, what if I drive today and I'm just gone. I was like, I don't have a will yet. I need to do that. I like, I just have so much on my list that I need to get done. And I'm like, it just blink could be something stupid. Piano could fall on you. Air conditioner out of window, dead splat. Ow. Like, so to be like, oh, well, it's not so bad.

Like, at least I go, like happy ghost out after. Yeah. I don't know. Like Casper, the friendly ghost. Casper. Well, we do have one ghost that's not so happy. I think you can handle it though, Lauren, it's okay. So this next one is also from our slash pair normal.

It is 23 days old. It is titled, My Dad is a Ghost, literally. So my dad died suddenly three years ago. His dog viciously killed him. What? His own dog, yeah. He had the dog since he was a puppy. They slept together every night.

His girlfriend and him got into an argument and the dog turned on him and bit his ear off. Oh. I'll spare you all the details, but the dog basically ate half of my dad. The police shot the dog when they found it a- You're like actually fucking with us on this one. This is a real post.

The police shot the dog when they found it attacking his dead body in the garage. What, where was the girlfriend just ran away? Like, where was she at? No, mention. We're fixing the house up to get it rented out and the electrician swore he saw a ghost in the garage and he had no knowledge that someone died there.

His voice was shaky when he told me. So I guess my dad is a ghost. Any help here? Can he see me? Is he stuck? What is happening? Also, my dad came home from the hospital to that house. It was my grandparents and he lived in it after they died. He loves that house and was deeply attached to it. I'm traumatized. Yeah, same. I've never heard of that ever happening. A dog attacking their own owner.

Yeah. I believe, especially from having right from yeah, you think that I know, I know there's sometimes like the, the weaker one, perhaps maybe the dog just has the instinct to help the, the smaller female, let's say it was the female's male. But usually the first instinct is to protect the owner, especially the one who's fed you and raised you

since you were a baby. So that's just so wild. Yeah, I think it's actually very common. I saw a TikTok the other day. That was like, very common. Well, especially if other day, that was like. Wait, very common. Well, especially if you die in the house, so if you're at home with your pets and you just die, your pets will eat you.

That's completely different. Oh yeah, that's very different. Well, so, so different. There's other point, this other point that I was gonna bring up though. The first ever face transplant was a woman and it was because her dog mulled her just eight or face. That's crazy. One was that. 2005. Wow. Yeah. So she lived and they had the transplant her face. She had a face transplant.

And now there's been many face transplant since. the dog that mulled the lady was a lab redor retriever crossbreed. Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. But her face transplant was really successful. I don't think you could handle the pictures. Was she in like a, was like a new face or they do a bunch of surgery, what is that entail? I think it depends. I have seen a face transplant that was full, like top of hairline,

all the way down the neck. Like I've seen that transplant I watched a video on. It looks like hers was a partial, so it was like from her nose to her mouth and like kind of her lower lips. Would you like to see a picture? It's like I, I don't think I can handle that. But I just don't know if I can. It's one of those things, you know. Would you want to see an after picture?

Yes, I'll do an after. Okay. Thank you. I didn't know that was an option. Thank you. This is an after face transplant. Okay. Normal looks good. Yeah. Normal. Looks good.

Yeah. You're kind of curious about the before now. Don't do that to me. No, I'm not curious. No, I'm not curious. I can't, yeah. For those. I already know that she's gonna post it on Instagram

and I'm probably gonna see it. Can you even do that actually? I can. Okay. It'll be in the swipe feature. Yeah, so. So I I mean not to swipe that one Yeah, don't don't swipe trigger warning face transplant, but I think that's like I don't know it animals like it's actually crazy We've domesticated animals. Do you ever think about that? But it's been over thousands of years

So but have you seen all the people trying to like domesticate weird stuff right now? No No, okay, this is an example. Um, coyotes. That's not weird. They're wild. People are trying to make them pets. So we're dogs. Dogs are wild. But it's been thousands of years. Like this is like people just trying to wrap it. Rapid foods. They're trying to potty train raccoons. I would write potty train raccoons. Apparently they're really hard to potty train. I've always wanted one. I've always wanted one. We're on the street raccoons are hard to potter. I've done so much research you guys. My first raccoon experience was when I was like seven

years old. I love them. They're like so cute. They're so cute. They're so cute. They're hairless from their bar. They're giant. They're giant. They're so cute. I just love the way they roll. They're like really really polioly. They're really polioly. Yeah. Okay, so this next story is one that I put together based on a couple of YouTube videos I found. One being from a guy named Joe Scott. His YouTube channel will be linked in the description

as well as his video that I kind of took some of this information from, as well as additional sources I took information from, which is Affinity Explorers and INF.News. I did a lot of research. I like literally fully typed out this story for probably an hour and a half today. So I'm really excited about this one.

It is a really cool story about one of, like a very well-known, documented time traveler. So here we go. In April of 2006 in Kyiv, Ukraine, police were called to deal with a confused man who had been reported to be wandering around the city aimlessly. When two police responded to the disturbance, they found the man to appear scared and unsure of where he really was. He said his name was Sergei Ponomerenko and he claimed that he had left his house earlier that day to take some photos, and while photographing, he suddenly found himself here in what appeared to be the future. He certainly looked the

part, carrying an old-fashioned camera and a dated outfit. When police asked for his identification, he handed over a Soviet identification document from the 1950s. The document showed he was 25 years old, and when police began inspecting it, they found that it appeared to be a legitimate document from the time of the Soviet Union, more than 50 years old. When asked what day he thought it was, Sarge said April 23rd, 1958. The year was actually 2006. April 23rd, 2006.

The same day, different year. Wait, he was just taking pictures, and that's like his origin story. Yeah. The cops treated him like he was insane. He was arrested and taken to a psychiatric hospital in Kiev. There, Dr. Pablo Kutrakov began questioning Sergei. This is a transcript from the consultation of April 26, 2006. It was recorded. Dr. Kutrakov, how about you tell me something about yourself? Pana Morenko.

My name is Sergei Pana Morenko. I was born in the city of Kiev on June 16th 1932. A Jumani! Sorry. Kutrakov. Yes, but I would assure you that you are not older than 30 years old. Pana Morinco, I am 25 years old. The doctor asked Sergei how it was that he appeared in the year 2006, and then Sergei told him about how he was trying to take a picture of a UFO and somehow teleported to this place. Dr. Kutrakov, but can you remember how you appeared in our time? Ponomorenko. It was daytime, and I wanted to go for a walk in the city.

I took my camera, but when I left my house, I saw a strange object that had a bell shape, and it was very strange. And it was flying in a strange way. It is difficult to explain what I was seeing. It might be better to look at the photos from my camera, and then maybe we can answer. Dr. Kutrakov was curious and decided to try and develop the photos on Sergei's camera. I don't know what kind of camera it was. But there was a difficulty. The techniques of development for old cameras like that of Sergei's weren't readily available and very difficult to come by. The camera Sergei was discovered with was a yashima flex

and considered an antique at the time. So they had to look for an expert in photography and they found that in Poisoner. Poisoner was surprised when he reviewed the role Sorge had, and discovered that based on the real's info, Sorge's specific role was made in 1956. Additionally, this type of role had not been manufactured since the 70s. It is impossible to explain how that role could be preserved in such good condition for more than half a century. Wow. Poisoner did manage to reveal

all the photographs on the role and this is where things got really strange. Many of these images showed the city of Kiev in the 1950s. From the cars to the clothes, everything was historically accurate. Some of the buildings didn't even exist anymore. The camera also had photos of a woman about 25 years old, a photo of Sergei in front of some buildings that no longer existed, and an image with Sergei, Punemarenko, and this woman together, where Sergei is in the very same outfit. He was wearing on the day he was found by police. Here are the pictures. No way. This is the woman on the left and that's Sergei and the woman on the right. These aren't scary. I can handle these ones. Okay, this is also don't scroll past this, but this is also an old picture of like

Keith. That was on his camera. Yeah, this is also on his. That's like good photos. Yeah, pretty good. The photograph that caught the most attention though was one of a UFO appearing in the shape of a bell above a building in Kiev, exactly as described by Sergei during his initial psychiatric evaluation. That's the picture of the UFO. Okay, can I ask though, how did they have the term UFO in that year? This was 2006.

Yeah, but how did Sergey, he didn't, he say I was trying to take a picture of the UFO. I think they like, I'm not sure we can Google the history of the word UFO stand for again on a Dennis fight fly flying object. I guess maybe that was it. I think that did go back pretty far. Can you look that up? I just like, I don't know, it just feels like so like. When were planes invented? Because was this before after that? The first plane was invented in 1903, so UFOs were definitely. Okay. This was around 58. Wait, but why would UFOs definitely be a thing?

Because like things are flying. Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't mean they had the term for it. I think it did go back pretty far though. In the 1940s and 50s, reports of flying saucers became a cultural phenomenon. Okay.

So that existed. And it was in the 1950s, this article, correct? Yeah, I was 53 or okay. 50 is when he transported. Yeah, they started calling them flying software. Flying... Why do we laugh at things like that? You know I don't know.

Yeah. The walkins. They started calling them flying saucers around 40s. So this was 10 years later. All right, I wasn't trying to be a stickler. I just like, I'm trying to understand because this is such a phenomenal story. Yeah, I love it.

I'm like, yeah, I love it. I'm so excited now. I'm not like a doubter. I'm a truth or? There you go. No, I really do. I'm buying it. But I'm just more curious because I hear the word UFO and I'm like, I think

that's because there's all this current alien talk. Yeah, they just released like a documentary. They're actually real. Oh, I don't follow that. Well, we'll get into it once we finish this out. So this is a transcript from a subsequent session between Dr. Kutekov and Sergey after the photos were developed. Kutekov, here are the photos revealed, there from your camera.

I am especially interested in this photograph. Take a look please. Panamarenko, now are you convinced that I am telling the truth? I so far do not understand what this object is and how something like that happened to me. At the same moment that I took the picture, I went down to look at the camera and somehow I showed up in this year.

Dr. Kutekrov did start to hypothesize that if this was some sort of alien spacecraft, it theoretically could have flown Sergei across the universe at the speed of light. Now this is science that goes above my head and it does include Einstein's theory of relativity and time dilation. But for the sake of the story, let's pretend we all get it. I don't, I tried to research all of the articles on time dilation, and this is where Justin would have been useful.

Mm-hmm. I barely passed astronomy. That's probably so useful. Yeah, so like a lot, there's a lot of breakdowns, like even modern day articles right now that say like time travel is possible Like based on these theories After speaking with Dr. Kuchikov Sergei went to his room the clinic security camera captured the moment when he entered the room But Sergei was never seen leaving his room. He had just vanished The only way out was watched

his room. He had just vanished. The only way out was watched constantly. The windows in the room even had bars on them. It was impossible to escape, and yet he was gone. The mystery took another crazy turn when authorities looked back into the records and found a man by the same name who went missing in 1958. They tracked down the man's girlfriend who by that time was in her 70s. It turns out that the girlfriend was the woman in the photographs with Sergei, the day he went missing. Oh my God. I have like chills.

I want to cry, but like I don't know if it's happy or sad tears. I just wow. She then told authorities that Panamarenko had disappeared that day in 1958 and then reappeared two days later. The same amount of time he had actually been in 2006. She went on to claim he disappeared again in the 70s, but this time did not come back. But years later, she ended up getting a photograph in the mail showing Sergei as an older man with a note on the back of the picture claiming it's from 2050. He appears to be in Kiev only with the skyline changed with the addition of skyscrapers. The note also said that he would be back soon, but that never happened.

How can you go to 2050? He's a time traveler. I know, but like, we're like the people in 58. Wait, sorry. Yeah, we're like the people in 58. We're like, if we got a postcard from 2006, we'd be like, what? I know, that's what's messing with me so much because I can, we can perceive 58 in 2006 because it's already happened.

We can't perceive 2050 because it hasn't. Well, and it's also something. We can't perceive 2050, because it hasn't. Well, and it's also something with the fact where like him going back in time is what really confuses me, but him traveling like at the speed of light fast forward, then I'm like, okay, the timeline is still going, but going back as if they're all happening at the same time, well, and this is the picture

of him and Keith in 2050. That's 2050. That's what was on the back of the picture that he sent to his girlfriend. Sick jacket. Yeah. I'm swag and 2050. This I've never heard of any, I've never heard of any reality behind time traveling. I also haven't looked into it. But I love, I love movies that have to do with time traveling. So I'm just like, mine fucked right now. It's crazy. Okay. So what? What is this a lie? It's a lie. Morgan, are you fucking me? It is. I fucking knew it. Morgan. I fucking know how hard it was to keep a

straight face during all of this. I had a feeling. so this is a very very very well-known Internet time traveler story and it has recently been debunked. You've hurt my feelings Yeah, I'm hurt too. Thanks to youtuber Joe Scott Wait again, be sure to check out his video Joe tells this story Absolutely incredibly like I did take a lot of notes from him and the other websites I mentioned that will be linked but Justin pulled up his YouTube video for me and I'm watching it. I was fully bought in. I was like holy shit. This is amazing. Holy shit. Because there's

these pictures, right? There's a picture of his girlfriend that I didn't show you of her in her 70s showing the picture that I showed you of him in 2050. I literally got down and I go, that was absolutely incredible. To me, it was the transcripts from authorities. So that's what I'm like, if they have, like, from the authority. Oh, there's a video, there's a video footage of him walking into his room. So Joe Scott actually does debunk this. Like, so where the fuck does this shit come from? At one point, this was like a story that was sold as being real. Yes, everyone believed this. And people believed it. Yeah, there's an article on this that it literally says like, the story that almost made people believe

in time traveling. Like, they almost pulled a fast one on us. And so Joe does dive in and he comes up with an explanation. He finds that like the picture of him in 2050 has been cloned and possibly includes the Empire State Building a little modified, so they think it's some Photoshop. And then he goes more compellingly. Joe also found that the photos were taken from the Ukrainian TV show Aliens. The show discusses the possibility of extraterrestrial life and is similar to the show type you could see on the history channel. But according to Scott has a number of inaccuracies. So this show was trying to portray this as very real. Like it's literally a documentary.

And they call it like the time traveler. And they they share all this. Was I fucking your vibe because I was so fixated on you UFO? Did I look like a Hulk in the store? No, but I didn't make any of that up. No, I know you didn't, but when you were trying to look up UFO, they called them flying saucers. No, I honestly figured that UFO was a term that in all of the articles I read, they had kind of translated it because maybe he didn't have the words for it. So I was kind of figuring like, I don't know, like these, this is now kind of travel through the grapevine.

Yeah. Maybe you were dealing with the, um, 2050 and then with the picture from him from 2050, I was like, that looks like he's still back in the 50s. Yeah, but the fashion comes around, baby. That's so it's crazy. When I come around, when I saw that photo, it was like that does not like your PowerPoint. That looks like old fashion. But then I was like wait no fashion does come around. But even so the photo. Well, here's a picture. Well, this is a picture. That's a picture.

A photo. Well, it would be amazing. Yeah, but Lauren right now, the trending to make photos like vintage. Like people are literally filtering and editing their photos to look vintage. I know, but if he wanted to convince his, you know, girlfriend that he was in, what was 2050, like, don't you think he would be like, here's the most up-to-date version? Yeah, but like maybe the photos like come with that kind of film thread? I don't know.

Honestly, who knows? Maybe there's like a World War III and like we revert back. Oh, you never know. Speak that's the picture of his III and like we revert back. Like, oh, I don't know. Speak that's the picture of his, so that you mean identification. Also, I don't know if you guys ever learned this or remember this, but in one of my journalism classes, there was something that happened to that remind me of this because you said so many people believe this that they started believing in time travel. But basically, there was a, I know you guys will know this, but there was a radio station

that started doing a radio act of a movie, which was like World War Three or something. And so normally they just have the radio talk about like, here's the weather, blah, blah, whatever. Normally they just have the radio talk about like here's the weather blah blah blah whatever and so in the beginning they go Hey, this is KS 95 whatever it is We are gonna be doing a reading from the play or movie World War 3 and I'm not getting this correct by the way this I'm just I can't remember. I'm making it up But basically all these people would tune in because in how radios work, you just tune in

whenever you want to tune in. And they're like, take cover, we're being bombed. You need to get in your basement. So people died because they literally were jumping out of their windows because people were so afraid. And so they ended up being this law or act that went into place with radio. You can't just do that because it's not, you know what I mean? It was crazy.

That's insane. I just got a road trip with some friends and we were playing like a song where there's like a police siren. And we were all like, and we're like, that shouldn't be legal. You shouldn't be able to put out songs that have police sirens or like, yeah, things like of that nature, because it does scare you when you're just like jarring when you're driving. Right. Driving. It's really bad.

It's like, why that shouldn't be able to be broadcasted in the vehicle. Mm-hmm. I do not like that. Okay. Oh, wait. So also, where was there, where did this come from, by the way? Like, this was just, this guy was a real guy and they just decided to play a prank. Or like, how did that, you know, I'm not sure about that. That's a question you're gonna have to go over to Joe Scott's YouTube video. He does break it down further in the origins, but I think the alien show is where it really came from and people thought it was like a history channel like documentary. Yeah. And they took it at that face value. Yeah. People, I mean, myself included sometimes, but people can be really, I'm actually

pretty gullible, but like, people society as a whole can be very gullible. It's especially if there's a lot of buy-in. People are more inclined to buy into something if it's's widely accepted and people don't question it. So I'm not super shocked by that, but I don't know, we were kind of believing it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, I saw Lauren's face.

She was fully bought-in too. Yeah. I was fully convinced when I watched the video for the first time. Yeah. I was like, this is real. The only part that made me not just like the end with the, you know, him traveling again to the future is the fact that I hadn't heard that before

because I would think if there's a story, because I, like I said, I was like, I haven't done research on time travel, but this is crazy. And so that was the thing that was throwing me off is like, how have I not heard this story before, because this is a phenomenon. Like this is absolutely like mind blowing.

So that was my only part that was making me question, but it's actually funny because before, so we were recording right before you got here obviously, but they don't know. And I even mentioned to Morgan, I was just like, I am, I am with a lot of these type of topics. I am not a believer, but I'm also not not a believer. I'm the same way. I'm the same way. Yeah, especially with aliens.

Oh, yeah, I don't know what bucket I fall into. Like, I haven't done it either way. Totally, yeah. I haven't. You could convince me of either one. Yeah, exactly. I have not, I was just going to say like, I have not done enough research into what's going out of the aliens.

I know there's a lot of talk around it. So I don't know what I believe. I can totally go either way. I just need like a compelling story. Right. Well, and it's like because there's still so we're such a young species in terms of the history of the world. So I just think about how you know like a few hundred years ago or so people probably be like there's no chance that you

could get an object that big up in the air. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like the planes, the Wright brothers. Yeah, the Wright wings. But it's like, so it's, I don't ever want to just be completely convinced that I know something because there's still so much to learn and figure out. Yeah. Well, far beyond me living on this earth. Yeah. Like our current understanding maybe it doesn't even allow us to comprehend or fathom a reality where that can exist.

Yeah. And that's where people start to trip up. Yeah. But yeah, that's, it's so interesting to me. What? Okay, sorry, back to that story though. One time I can't remember when this happened and it kind of feels like a fever dream. My grandpa passed away in 2015.

So it's been some time now, but since then I was walking and this was actually in LA and this wasn't that long ago. I want to say a year or two ago, I was walking and I'm not kidding you. I passed this man year or two ago, I was walking and I'm not kidding you. I passed this man who looked just like my grandpa. That was probably him. And I wanted to stop so badly and ask him, like, who are you?

But that's like so creepy. But I literally double took and it was like, I'm like, do people like get reincarnated? You know what I mean? Yeah. He looked a little bit younger, but I was like, oh my God, that looks just like my grandpa. That is something I could easily believe in

because of the stories that I've seen. I'm sure. And again, it's things to be fabricated. But I feel like I've seen a lot of situations where there's little children who know something there's like little children who know something about somebody from years ago that had passed away. And it's just like how do you explain that? And again, people could be lying just like the story,

but like if those stories are true, how do you explain a young child like explaining exactly a woman who had died 10 years ago or so, that's just crazy. It is absolutely wild. I fully believe in this stuff. I think it probably was your grandpa. It was like a manifestation. I think that kind of stuff can exist. Yeah, and it's crazy because it was so random. So it's not like, oh, I was looking for it or anything. That's because if you look hard enough, you can kind of like make things work,

but it was so random. It was like in LA, I remember we were crossing the street. We cross each other. And I really wanted to like go up to him and say something, but I didn't know how that could come across. You know, and it's the first and only time I've seen somebody who looked like someone I know was past. Do you regret not saying something?

Yeah, I really wish I had stopped, but I just don't even know what I could have said. Hi, like this is gonna sound really weird, but you look like my grandpa, like it. Do I do regret? I do regret it. If it happened again, I would for sure. I mean, I won't get into it now,

but I think I've talked about on this podcast, like, and I've had people message me, being like you have some type of proximity with people who have crossed over to the other side, because I've had so many dreams with visits, visitation dreams. I have so many. And I've had communication with people

that I know have passed over, which is really beautiful. It's not scary at all. And I'll spare all the details. But so that is something that would happen to me. Like I would be the one who sees somebody who is like crossed. Because it's just, I've had such powerful connections in that way, mostly in my dreams.

I think they're real. Which speaking of this next story kind of goes with that. This is six months old coming coming from our slash pair normal. It is titled, What We Believe was our daughter's paranormal moment as a toddler. From the time our daughter was just about a year to just over two years old,

we periodically got woken up to the sounds of her giggling to flat out cackling and squealing in excitement. When either of us would get up to see what the fuss was about, she'd be standing or sitting at any of the three sides of her crib looking up. One day I was holding her and walking from each framed photo of family members. I'd point to those in the pics and say, who is that? I'd point to her mom, myself, my mom, my mother-in-law, my sister-in-law, my brother, his wife. Each time, she'd say her word for that person.

There was a collage with a number of people, memories of the past, my wife, and I made and framed. There were people and friends who were no longer with us, slash past on, including my father, who'd passed away a decade before our daughter was born. I started pointing at people, and if she didn't know them, she'd passed away a decade before our daughter was born. I started pointing at people and if she didn't know them, she'd look at me real fast and hold the palms of her hands up like, I don't know. So I'd point to the person again and say their names. She'd do her best to repeat it.

In the collage was a pick of my late father and I. I pointed to me. She said, Dadda, I pointed to my father and she got all excited. She started bending her knees in my arms, raising up and down, giggling with the biggest smile. She raised her arms up in the air and looked at the ceiling and said, loudly, Papa, Papa, Papa, Papa, Papa, Papa, Papa. She kept giggling and saying, Papa, I had chills and my wife was looking at us with wide eyes.

I started to tear up. For one, no one had ever shown her a photo of my father. We didn't have one hanging up in the rooms where she frequented. No reason. We just didn't have very many big photos of him. For two, she'd never said the word before, not ever. Lastly, my brother lives halfway across the country, and at that time, he had only seen my daughter once. He has one daughter, but she was in college when we visited him, so she'd never met our daughter. But, my niece spent a lot of time of her early life around my late father before my brother relocated. Papa was what my niece called my father, and he loved being called Papa.

Her reaction had my wife and I thinking and admittedly hoping that maybe just maybe all those times We had woken up to our daughter Gagling why haven't you cried? I know look Gagling laughing and squealing in delight. It was my late father paying her a visit 100% There's just so cute. It was 100% him. That's amazing. Yeah.

Oh my God, I'm so crazy. Wait, why are you crazy? I'm just like sitting here crying over this ghost story. No, I was starting a tear up throughout the entire thing. It's just beautiful. Yeah. You had to hold it together and suppress all your emotions so that you're releasing them.

It's totally fine. Oh, there is a comment from OP because someone goes, it's common for children to be more perceptive of spiritual presences than adults. Unless this became an issue or you're suspecting the presence may be a demon in disguise, demons do disguise themselves

as relatives or friends who have passed. But fuck, don't ever tell me that. It doesn't sound like it is, though, based on this story. Then try to comfort your kid, then worry too much, as I won't really hurt your kid. No, it's so harmless. It happened over 20 years ago. Daughter is now 22.

Yeah. But Opie responded, goes, I told my wife that I put this story on Reddit. She brought up a memory I forgot. We had a dog before we had our daughter and still had him for a few years after our daughter was born. He used to wake us up by playing in the corner of the living room

where an old recliner used to be. He'd wake my wife up barking before our daughter was born. It'd take a train coming through our living room to wake me up. The recliner was the chair my father used when he came and visited twice a week, each before his untimely death. Oh, dogs and kids. Oh my god, animals know. They do dogs and kids. That's crazy. I think you're just more like you're more open to things, you're not a skeptic,

you're kind of like untainted, pure innocent little soul. For sure. So I think like good and bad, you see it, you feel it. Yeah, you're willing to like suspend disbelief. And like, like you said it really well. You're just less closed off to things that seem paranormal and phenomenal and just like not believable. Yeah. I had my old house, one of the houses that I grew up in

in Minnesota Definitely had some paranormal activity. Oh, God. I remember you guys Told me that when I came over to your house and we were all in the basement Uh-huh, and it's when you yeah, yeah, yeah moving to Los Angeles So they're all saying goodbye to you and I was so scared like, you guys were all just, they were all like sharing stories about like random things that had happened. And I, yeah, I was sitting in the basement

and you said the basement is where the basement was. Yeah, so I'll make a long story short. Hell no. In the basement, we had a dog. The dog would go downstairs and just start, the dog never really barked. It would go downstairs and bark at nothing. Nope. And then for Nanda, my little sister who at the dog never really barked. It would go downstairs and bark at nothing. Nope.

And then, Fernanda, my little sister who at the time was really young, like a baby. My mom went to him and was like, go downstairs and play a room. And she was down there. And I was like, go downstairs and clean up. Fernanda was one of the most even-killed, not temperamental children. She came running up the stairs, bawling, saying, someone's down there, I can't do it. I keep seeing him. And she was like, not a liar feel like she was like not a liar,

like she was just not a kid who did that. And so my mom was like that coupled with the dog that would just bark on the way. All these other weird things that happened down there. I know, I remember you telling me something about this house. There's so many things that happened in that house. Wasn't this like a divorce?

Did you just like basement? Yeah. Like every person that would go down there and like that was their office. No, no, no. When we were touring the house when my mom And my at the time stepdad before they got divorced when they bought the house the basement wasn't finished So in Minnesota people at basements. That's not super common in California No, but Minnesota's common sometimes they're finished sometimes they're unfinished mine was unfinished when I was growing up my entire house

It scared the Shit out of me. You guys, honestly, I wanna say it's the scariest basement I've ever seen. Because an unfinished basement, and we barely, we didn't have a lot of lights down there either. Oh, don't even get me started on mine at the farm. Yeah, it was a potato cellar.

An unfinished basement, that's what you see in scary stores. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, where they do all the bad stuff. If I had to, and then the only time we'd really go down there was because we had storage so it would be to go and get something. We wouldn't hang out down there. It was a huge basement, you guys. It was so big.

My mom always, they always planned to finish it because they build the house and my parents got divorced. That never happened. It was a huge basement and it just had, it was so scary to me. I would run for my fucking life when I would be coming up those stairs whenever I needed to go get something because it was dark, it was scary. It had all that like glass foam around the windows, you know what I'm talking about. And like the only time we'd go that down there it was to get something for storage or because there was a tornado warning. And we'd have like a little radio and we'd listen to the radio and we'd all stay

really close together and we'd like see through the windows like the sky turning somewhere. Yeah, no. That vibes. Whew. Yeah. The bass was for fuck. The forest basement though. Oh, oh, oh, okay. So when they were touring the house, the basement was unfinished, but like when they went down there, there was like a mattress down there. And so it was evident was like a mattress down there. And so it was evident that someone had been sleeping there. What?

So my mom like heard, she deduced like, oh, because when they were selling the house, the realtor was like, they're getting divorced. And my wife was like, why is this house on the market? Like, they're getting divorced. And oh, there was a mattress down there and there was like a little rack of clothes. And it was obviously the men's clothes. So it was evident that the wife had started making the husband sleep down there. Which is so cool.

But anyway, so he was sleeping on this mattress. It was like bad energy, bad vibes. You don't know what he did. Yeah, true, true, true, true. So she, my mom, whatever, that's like a just a little data point to remember. So then my mom and my stepdad bought the house, finished the basement. My stepdad was and is a workaholic. He's an architect.

And his, the basement became like part, like entertainment playroom, part, like office. And he would spend literally all of his time down there, working, working, working, working. And I mean, without going too much into my family's business, like my mom and my stepdad ended up getting a divorce. Part of the big reason behind that was because he just, like, constantly worked. And my mom just was like, I can't do this. Like, I'm married to somebody who's married to their job.

I feel like I don't have a husband. And so my mom started to really resent the basement. Because she'd be like, I'll be up in a second. She'd be like, I have our show ready. And then he would never come up on the basement. Oh my gosh. He was a slave to the basement. But maybe there was an energy down there.

That's what we're saying. So my mom felt that basement had him captive, had this negative energy because of the last person who lived there, who clearly was for lack of better words, like a slave to the basement, because he slept down there, lived down there, was rejected by his wife. And then that's some weird shit happened again. It's like a teen in-house and then my stepdad was like literally married to the basement.

And that was the same, same house. Same basement that, okay. And then all this weird energy would happen. Actually, we do like, but you know the history of the house before? There's no like negative. I wonder if anyone else after they moved in there has gotten divorced? I don't know.

There was if there was a family that moved in, I don't know if they still live there. We should go look. I know. There were so many weird things that happened in that house. Like, I had my lucid dreams in that house. That's crazy. Yeah, it was really bad energy in that house.

We ended up obviously selling it, but before that, my mom and I were like, we need to have this house like. Cluence, cleanse. Everyone should cleanse their house, but just make sure you buy your sage from a Native American Indigenous shop, because sage is like very exploited right now.

And like not, you gotta buy from an ethical source. I didn't know that. Okay, Aale, you ready for yours? Yeah, you don't know. You got this! Thanks. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Am, you ready for yours? Yeah, you don't know. You got this! Thanks. Whoah, whoah, whoah! Am I reading it on your? Heavy ass brick computer.

Yeah, we'll pass it over. Pass it down. This thing's like heavier than... Take one down, pass it around. Yeah, wow. Right? It has to be. There's no way babies weigh this much.

This one's, he makes me look like I have a... Ben, I'm something. Ben, I like a what? I think she's really on the take. Yo, do you need to be dicked down? I know it just has been gone for like 24 hours. It's been too long. It's been too long you guys. Oh don't give me started, okay okay. No don't start with me. You probably had sex more recently than me. Literally no chance. Alright so this is titled this was posted

eight days ago and it was posted by Trust Trust me, three, three. So you try that again. I guess she always does do that. I've never done that. I'm sorry. Okay, this was posted by just just me, three, three, three. The first one was good enough. It's like all the threes. Okay, all right.

Okay, and this is on, I think it's, yeah, our slash, so that's not me, is the subreddit. Yeah. Okay. So I grew up in a small town. Total population was maybe 2000. Everyone knew everyone else or at least knew your family members. It was a safe town with mostly middle class working families.

Nothing major ever happened and the crime rates were low. I grew up feeling safe and secure. Two note, I grew up in the 90s. I knew it was pretty good. Okay, one summer day, people was saying that I was like, whoa, damn. You're old. Yeah.

Okay, one summer day, my good friend, Jenny and I were out for a bike ride. We were 11 or 12 years old. We were allowed to bike anywhere we wanted as long as we didn't leave our town and we wore our helmets. There was a new road being constructed in between the two main neighborhoods.

The new road was to provide a shorter way of accessing the main road to get to the next town. At the time, the road was still under construction, but was nearly complete. All that was left was paving and painting. Jenny and I decided to bike down the gravel road. At the halfway point, we noticed a man walking. He was very early 30s and very handsome.

He was just 30s, not very. He was early 30s and very handsome. Okay. I didn't recognize him and Johnny didn't either. It's just the way this is written. It's the way this is written. It's the way this is written. Okay, I didn't recognize him and Johnny didn't either.

As we got closer, he broke out in a big smile and said, hello. We said hello back as he didn't seem threatening or scary. Yes, as if we were having a good summer and we said yes. He told Jenny and I that he was a photographer from a nearby city and was in town to scout out models for his new postcard company. He said, Jenny and I had beautiful features. He said everything in a very flattering way that made us feel special. He said we could be models.

So we asked if we could take our pictures. He said that we had this look that he wanted and the scenery right now is Perfect to promote the town. He said he knows he will sell tons of postcards and we could all make money Jenny and I eagerly agreed He got a stand with our hands on our hips and smile big. He took out a disposable camera out of his back pocket and began snapping photos He took about ten photos in total from many angles and began snapping photos. He took about 10 photos in total from many angles. That's it. Be pissed. I remember rapid fire baby. I remember feeling a little uneasy and he said we should probably go because we needed to be home soon. He

said he would get in touch with our principal on the first day of school to give us some money from our postcard sales. We foolishly confirmed and we went to the local elementary school, though it was the only elementary school in town, so it wouldn't be hard to figure out. Neither Jenny or I remember to this day giving him our names. This was an important detail for later. Jenny and I talked about becoming famous on the way home. I told Jenny that I wondered why he didn't have a professional camera. She said that she wondered that too, but we agreed cameras are expensive, so maybe he just didn't have a nice one in case it rained.

That evening at supper, I told my parents about my potential newfound fame. They were horrified and got on the phone with Jenny's parents. The two sets of parents called the police and gave statements. Police sort of downplayed it and said it was unusual, but nothing criminal had happened. My parents had a long talk to me about safety, as did Jenny's parents with her. How old were they again? They were 11 and 12. Oh, good.

The following spring, Jenny and I were hanging out together. This time a little older and a little wiser, 13. Sorry. And a lot more cautious. We were walking along a quiet side of the street, just talking about music and TV and shows. A minivan approached us and slowed down. I'm stranger to you. Mm-hmm.

A friendly looking woman asked us if we knew where Smith's road was. We told her she needed to drive down for less than a minute, and it's the first right-hand turn. She said she was having difficulty finding it, and would we mind hopping in and showing her. No. This is like number one. Yeah. Stranger danger. And a minivan too. Of course. God. Right. It couldn't be like a java. In that case. Yeah. All that's are off. Get in. Get in

loser. All right. I instantly told her no. Jenny also declined. Then the woman said it was okay because she knows who we are. She called us both by our first names and said she saw us on a postcard. No, no. Whoa. Remember, they didn't give them his, give him their names. By now, we were both freaked out. We were on a stretch of the road that had no houses. The nearest one was about 100 meters away. And it wasn't common for people to have cell phones back then. So neither Jenny or I had one. The woman continued to ask us to get in her minivan.

Jenny who was normally super chatty was staring into the vehicle intensely. Her body language was stiff and I could tell she was scared. Suddenly and seemingly out of nowhere, Jenny screamed run. I didn't know what was happening, but I ran and followed Jenny. We ran off the road and threw a field and into a yard into another street over. I recognized the yard and the house as belonging to a schoolteacher. We pounded on her door and she answered. We told her what happened. And then Jenny said something I will never forget. She said she saw the photographer man from last summer crouching down in the very back row of the seats. She said she knew something bad was going.

What seats of the car? And he was hiding in the back seat of the van. Oh, my God. Holy. This feels like lovely bones. I've never seen that either. It's a movie. Oh, God, you got to write all these down for me. Police on our parents were called. We gave statements in a vehicle description as well as descriptions of the man and woman. Unfortunately, the police were never able to locate them.

This was a year later. She's... Jenny and I never saw them again. We had some serious trust issues with strangers after those encounters, and I had nightmares of being kidnapped into early adulthood. Always makes her to teach your children that strangers are not safe no matter how nice they are. My situation could have had a much more unfortunate outcome if things had gone even slightly different. Those are two people I sincerely hope

to never meet again. Wow. That's terrifying. I, yeah, it's so important to talk to your kids. From the time they are a little don't talk to strangers, don't get in cars with strangers. Like, it's crazy. I just, it's like my neighborhood felt so safe. Like, my parents rarely knew where I was in the summertime. I was just all around the neighborhood.

I was nine biking all over town. Yeah, and it's so crazy to think, oh, God, I just would be so scared to be a parent. You know, you wanna like let your children just go play outside and run around back to neighbors to neighbors, but that, you like, you have to be really careful who you trust your kids with nowadays. Not only the stranger dangers, but a lot of

like essay is committed by people you typically know. It's like my brother and his wife do not let People you typically know. It's like my brother and his wife do not let anyone really watch their kids It's like my grandma my mom and her parents. Like that's who baby says because they're they're so protective and It's it's scary. It's so scary I'm like, how do you teach your kid like if someone's offering a puppy in a van? They might even get you all a hundred If someone's offering a puppy in a van, they might even get you all a hundred. You literally, you read my mind. You read my mind.

So I was just going to say, that's so funny you say that, is like obviously teach this to your children at a young age, but also I think some adults need to hear this. Especially in today's world, where things are so like as you're talking about it, I'm like, we literally have strangers deliver us food all the time. We have strangers pick us up in ubers all the time. Yeah.

People are constantly learning where we live, where we are. You know, we pay like complete virtual strangers. And I understand like companies like Uber and Postmates all at I would assume have like a system of checks of like verification and background and all of that. I mean, there's a great class action lawsuit going on right now for drivers. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure.

I'm heinous crimes. Right. I mean, anyone can do it, right? And you can have a clean track record today and it just takes one crime tomorrow. Yeah. I think I might have told this before on the podcast, but I um, knew a girl in college who she was drinking, drinking a lot and gotten a cab, had lost her wallet and the, uh, cab driver was like, you need to suck my dick, yeah. And, and she was, what? She was, and she was really scared. I can't remember exactly, but I think she even, like, might have done it because she was

so scared because he was, like, grabbing her and was just like, I'm going to, like, call the police, like, and she was only, like, 18 or something, you know, and, like, just, yeah, what do you do? Yeah, what do you do? Yeah. What do you do? What do you do? Yeah.

That's terrifying. It's so terrifying. No, it really is. Like adults need to hear this one too. I think that sometimes we get too comfortable, especially if we've been drinking, like you just put yourself in a bad situation or sometimes you don't put yourself in a bad situation, you're just shouting.

Just happened in a situation. When I was shopping at home goods, that yeah, I did that story, right? Yeah, just like such so. But like this happened, like I, there was, sometimes I just, maybe it's like the Minnesota and me in the Midwest, like where I try to be really nice and polite to people, but almost to a fault, where like I was walking home one time

back when we lived together, and someone like started chatting me up and being like, oh, you know, weird, like, are you just on a walk? And then I just bored about it. And I'm like, oh, you know, weird. Like, are you just on a walk? And then I just bored about it. And I'm like, oh, I live right here. Yeah. Oh, now they know I live.

Oh, man. And then are you from here? And I'm like, oh, no, I'm from Minnesota. Oh, how old are you? Like, I, you just suddenly, I'm comfortably over share because you're anxious. Not even like over sharing. I'm just like answering his questions

without thinking about the fact that he's like able to discern my whole livelihood based on three important facts where I live, where I'm from, and what my first name is. Yeah. You know, and then he sees me getting to my car, sees my car, sees my license plate. So it's just like and in that moment, it's so innocent, but I looked back and I'm like, that is really, really foolish to give that much information to somebody that I don't know. Yeah. And it's like sometimes you just wanna be nice, but it can be to a fault. And like even these girls, right?

Like he took advantage on, he played to, like the fact that every woman wants to be flattered and like told that they're beautiful, told that they could be a model, right? And so he took advantage of that. It's super sick. I, this has me me thinking about this stuff I've done in my life too, and I think about the time.

It was your birthday. We were up at Malibu Farms for Rosé Day. None of us had service. We couldn't get ubers. We were literally stranded in an hour and 20 minutes away from our homes, and we met these two nice guys. And we were like, hey, like, could you give us a ride back? We hopped in a Jeep with two complete strangers.

Yeah. And they gave us a ride. They gave us a ride to us. Hollywood. I still follow him on Instagram. Yeah. Were they the two gay guys? Yeah. That were fabulous. Oh my God. But you just don't know how that could have ended up. Like they could have been like on the DL, I don't know, working with someone and then like dropped us off and been like, bye bitches. Oh yeah, I used to hitchhike when I was in college. Yeah.

Like because it was so fucking cold to all my Minnesota people, all the people that go to the U of M. Where did you hitchhike? Like to a party when I was on campus. You would just hold your thumb out on the street? Yes. You would like hell a cab like the way you would in New York.

Yeah. And they would have people and they would stop all the time. Because I was so damn cold and because I like, we didn't really have Uber. Not until later. No, we didn't. No, no, we'd have to call cabs. We had to write down the cabs. Yeah, I literally have my guy, his name was Steve

and I still get snaps from him like everyone's a while. He would always be like, hey Steve need a ride to plums, to make tips, to have a taxi driver. Like your own driver, your taxi, he was a taxi driver, but then he would do it regularly. I remember I hailed, like basically it was a party

that was in, I forget what's that one area that's super far away and it's kind of sketchy. A homo. Yeah, it was in combo. So it was pretty far away. And what's that one area that's super far away and it's kind of sketchy? A coma? Yeah, it was in coma. So it was pretty far away. And then back then, like, no one wanted to bring a jacket

because they just knew they would lose it or it would get stolen. Yeah. So we would just like tough it out and we'd be like, here's like, alcohol, milk, milk, different. Literally. And then we would just trudge through like,

negative degree, it was just so unsafe in so many ways. But, and then I just remember, we were getting so frustrated because we were getting turned around with the directions. And finally, I was like, fuck it, you guys. I'm gonna, I'm gonna hitchhike. And my friends that I was always saying. I don't, I'm like, that's not, that's probably not a good idea.

And then this guy stops. And he looks like a really nice, like, dad dad and he was like, you really shouldn't be hitchhiking. And I was like, I know, but it's so cold. And he's like, okay, where are you guys going? And so like shit. He brings us to a party and he goes, um, with this house. And I was like, yeah, and he goes, I just dropped my son off here.

No. I was like, yeah, and he goes, I just dropped my son off here. No. I was like, who is your son? And I won't say his name, but it's someone that we know. And it's just, yeah. Oh my God. And then it was just so funny, because I was like, don't tell your son, because I thought it was embarrassing.

And then we get in there and I see everybody and they're like, hey, Lauren, how's it going? I was like, so and so's dad drove us to the party. And they're like, oh my god. And he's like, you met my dad? More of the story. Don't hitchhike. Don't hitchhike.

Yeah, don't hitchhike. Like, don't hitchhike. Thankfully, they have ubers now though. So it's so much easier. They don't know the struggle, you guys. College Kitsis days. No. You guys don't know what it's like.

We had to literally, first of all, you had to find a taxi that was trustworthy. Sometimes you always had to have cash on you. It was always cash. And then it was like survival of the fittest. And everybody's calling the same thing. Yeah, everyone's calling the same 10 taxi driver. Oh, Steve had a roster.

Yeah, a roster. I was higher on it for pickup. But like he was like, he would always be like, hey, I'm dropping mine. I'll be right there Right and you'd be get like okay. They'll be there in 30 45 minutes Really look out for them. Yeah cuz look at if you're not ready Yeah, you had to like set a timer and be like okay. I someone stand by the door Do you kind of miss it? Yes? I kind of miss that simplisty., I know. Of course I do. How was that simple? It was like life. It was just like I feel like I would love to roll the tape. Same. I thought

calling a taxi was so annoying. I can't even imagine going back to that. There's other things, simple things, you know, like before Facebook and everything that simpler times, but the Uber taxi thing, I'm very happy. Bring it back to your hands. I want I want a ride. I want a ride from someone who can't rate me. Yeah. And I'm nice. Why do you think taxi drivers are like safe? I think they're nicer than what my Uber drivers are rated me lately. Sorry, what did you do? Really ugly laugh. Oh my God. Who do you hurt? I think the only time I've been taking Uber's

is to the airport. You've been in a bad rating lately, didn't you? What'd you do? No, my rating just overall is like, can we just stop out of funny that is? Four point jump vibes. I think they're nicer than what my just mad drivers are. Who literally wants tattoos to come back

as someone didn't give her a good rating? Let's go, yellow cab. I'm ready for you. Wait, tell us. What'd you do? And why'd you get ready? No, literally nothing. I think my problem is that usually when I do go out,

my score has been kind of low for a while. Sure it. But usually when I, it's 4.75 right now. It's low. Mine's 4.8. Yeah, it's, but also, okay, those are the other things though. The other thing though is that. Okay, 4.96. It is 4.9 thing though is that the other thing though is that.

Okay, 4.96. Yeah, 4.9. Yeah, but the other thing though is that so for example traveling, there's a lot of places that you can use Uber, like most of the places that you can still use Uber. And in South Africa for example, my friend was telling me that everybody, because he had been there for like three months and he was like everybody that I'm friends with on this trip, all of their, like no, no, no, no, no, no, they, all of their scores went down significantly because he was like here, it's way more like, I'll give you a five star if you really were amazing.

That's me. You know, where is like, now it's just like, no, but I'm saying with us, it's just kind of like, oh, we'll give you a five star unless you piss me off. You know, unless you're driving unsafe. Like if you're driving unsafe to where I'm questioning if I'm gonna get there. It's five stars.

Yeah. Well, he was telling me that they're not like that. And who, I mean, if you live in South Africa and this is incorrect, let me know. But yeah, he was telling me that everybody that they were nomads visiting that they all all their scores drop Significantly since being there and it's just they just operate differently. It's just like it's like to them They're like oh, yeah, three star. I was fine and I'll give you a star if you were like really great I'm not a brain there so yeah, and all right right. And then, and then take the risk. And then in Argentina, if you ever use Uber there, they hate when you slam their doors.

They will not give you a good rating if you slam their doors to hard. It's the most annoying thing in the world. And I hate when people slam my car door. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm like, okay, fucking Hulk. No, I'm telling you, I think you'll probably be in Argentina because you're gonna be bobbing around.

I don't know if I'm gonna go to Argentina. Well, if you do, it's their doors, it's like, there's something different. It doesn't cushion the same way. It's here. I don't know what it is. And so it's like you think you're doing it really softly and then you have to do it even softer.

So they'll give you really bad scores if you accidentally shut the door too hard. So I My 4.8 I Don't think makes me a shitty person all Hondra. I never said that I did and thank God Thank God they don't have a word me canos because I'm telling you right now. I would have tainted my score So what do you do with days of me can know what happens to me can I say is a me can I know? No, it's what it's, honestly, I didn't do anything in mecanos.

It's just like, everybody, so in mecanos, they don't have Uber, they don't have Lyft. It's all taxis. It honestly felt like I was back in college with no, whatever. The problem though, is that it's like, honestly, this is like made as it's going to sound so first world I understand. It's a privilege to be able to travel, I get it. But like, it was like survival of the fittest.

Oh, yeah. Because there was got birdie taxis on the entire island during the spike of tourism and the Mika knows island. Okay. I think you and Brian were talking about that, right? It was, I don't know if we were. Okay. Well, Brian was talking about it with somebody, but he was saying hard.

So you like, literally I'd have to be like, hey, drop me, I need a ride to Scorpio's at like 10 p.m., and then I need you to pick me up at like, you'd have to like tell them, and then that sucks, because you can't plan your night, you'd be like, I don't know what if I had fun, what if I don't have fun?

Yeah. And you couldn't do anything about it, you just had to like to wait it out. I got literally stranded at a place for like two hours. Oh, no. Yeah, I was just like me at Coachella. Honestly, I feel, it's very fast to hold by. Yeah, I feel outside for hours.

Which could, which when? The year you went with the same year. We were there both years though. Yeah, the second year. Second year, okay. Oubers like didn't exist. I walked, I walked, I don't have oobers there.

No, they couldn't come on this topic. It was so, it's just so hard. It can just get, yeah, it was like the hotter games. They do and they don't. It's, it's, Shrissy Burning Man. Yeah, insane. The flooded stuff.

Insane. We're sounding like such influencers right now. We're talking about Coachella Mekanos. Did we have any comments on this story? We'll bring it back. I was trying to, yeah, I was trying to go. I was trying to go. I was trying to, yeah. I was trying to go. I was trying to go. I was trying to go.

Did you see me? Yeah, I was trying to scan. I was trying not to. Okay, anyway, top, I mean, there are, I'm gonna be really honest, these comments don't do it for me. They're very lukewarm, but I will give the people what they want. Yeah, it's here.

The top comment is, geez, this one is terrifying. Rating these, it's a wonder we made it through the 90s in early, odds, I don't know what they're trying to say that. Yeah. Is that a word? I don't know what they're trying to say though. Yeah. Is that a word? I don't know. I'm going to add this one to my already mile long list

for my young child. Seriously. And then OP said, it's just one of those situations you would never expect to happen as if parenting didn't already have enough worries. I'm going to kick back and say, that's actually not a situation I would never expect to happen. I feel like kidnapping, white vans, stranger danger

is like something that's very talked about. I feel like if somebody in a room, like with nobody around, the stranger walks up to you and pulls out like a disposable camera and asks to take pictures of you, I know we live in like a kind of artsy time now where that's like a thing. Yeah.

But if I'm alone and I'm 11, with my also minor, like two minors, I feel like you should politely decline. I don't think a stranger should just have photographs of you just. I looking back, I probably would have gone along with it. Oh yeah, 100%. I was in a question. I was in a photo taken of you.

Yeah. I mean, me and my friends, we used to, I just found these pictures of the day because I was packing up my room into Luth. But me and my friends would take disposable cameras to the mall and go in JC Penney's and try on a bunch of clothes and have fashion show pictures. That's really cute. Yeah, so I just found all those. I'm like, some stranger would have came up to me during that time

and been like, you guys, you could be models for Abercrombie Kit. I would have fell for it like that. I'm a traffic kid. Oh yeah. Hollister, let's go. I didn't think about that until just now of how the concerning aspect of him having pictures of them. Yeah.

And like why he had pictures of them. Yeah, exactly. I mean, like another thing too is like be careful about who you let take photos of you. OK, so somebody said, wow, this is terrifying. It made me think of Rodney Alcala. If you don't know who he is, please look him up. I wonder how many cycles out there use the same rules.

Thank goodness you guys. Thank goodness you girls got away. So who is it? Y'all know who he is? No. OK, Rodney James Alcala was an American serial killer and sex offender who sentenced to death in California for five murders committed between 1977 and 1979.

So let's see. Why do I feel like I've heard him on crime junkies? Oh, he was called the dating game killer. Oh my god, yes, I heard the crime junkie on him. Oh, there is. I want to get to find it. He went on a dating show in LA and was like a contestant. And so they have clips of him being like, okay, number five, how was he? He was number one. Yeah, and he was a successful photographer.

Yep. And that's how they started pinpointing him to victims because they found hundreds and hundreds of photos and then would match them with bodies that had turned up. Whoa. It was really bad. He was really, yeah, that's scary. I can't listen to stuff like that.

Yeah, so that's basically what this story reminded them of us, which it does. Which people are like, oh, was it him? But no, because he was active in the 70s and this took place in the 90s. 90s, who's already in jail at this point. Wow. Yeah. Interesting though, right? Crazy. And he actually won the dating game. Fact check me on that, but according to somebody. Oh my Wow. Yeah. Interesting though, right? Crazy. And he actually won the dating game.

Fact check me on that, but according to somebody. Oh my God. Yeah. Most of the comments are just saying that this is terrifying. Yeah. Rightfully so. Yeah. You'll probably never see him again. I feel like that's something on our past, like scary stories thing. We had a lot of people write in and be like, I was like attempted kidnapped almost. Really? Yeah. Well, a lot of people write in and be like, I was like, attempted kidnapped almost. Really? Yeah. Well, a lot of people whenever I shared that instance at HomeGoods, which was so shocking to me because I thought that you were, I thought you might just cut it out because I told you

in the beginning that I was just stressed out because of what happened. Yeah, that was a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very scary. And you even put in the bio. You're like, if you want to skip Lauren's story, go to this timestamp. It was long. You know, it was the biggest thing. Everybody was sharing all of their stories.

So many people were reaching out with the kindest words to me and then sharing their own stories. So it is an important problem. I think more people need to hear it. Sex trafficking can look so different in so many different ways. It's like, I feel bad sometimes that I'm like brushing people off.

Like, no, leave me alone, I don't have time. I don't have time to sign your protest. I don't have time to do this. But at the same time, I don't know who I can trust. And I would rather come off as rude versus put myself in a position where I don't make it out of. Yeah, I need to take a page out of your book on that one. Yeah, I just don't.

I feel bad, but I'd rather protect myself. I generally don't know how to be, I know how to be rude, like for sure. But when somebody's being really kind to me, it's, I don't know why, but this like, I can't get the switch to like, why they do it rude. It's a tactic because it is off-putting.

How do you be mean to someone who's being so kind to me? Right. Yeah, I struggle with that. Yeah, crazy. So we're cutting back in here. We kind of went a little off topic, but essentially, we just had like a little snippet of like protecting your information.

If your address is posted online, you should definitely pay to have a service, take everything down, protect your privacy, be rude, don't be skeptic, don't let people take advantage or scare you or make you feel uncomfortable, it's not worth it. Ready for the next one? Whatever the crime junkie thing says, stay rude, stay alive. Whatever. Yeah, something like that. Also, I just want to clarify something you said, you don't always have to have paid to have your stuff taken down. It is protected somewhat under the Privacy Act.

So you can actually write to a lot of these places. You can do it yourself. It, yeah. And it's what's crazy. Sometimes it's just a matter of they need and writing for you to ask for it to be taken down. So it can be kind of easy, kind of. Sometimes it's just a matter of they need and writing for you to ask where to be taken down. So it can be kind of easy, kind of. Sometimes it's not.

Very time consuming. It can be time consuming, but it's worth it. So that's, I'm, the services you pay for, like I've seen some that are like 25 bucks. Okay, that's nice. And I'm just like, it's better than you writing letters, but regardless of how you do it, you should definitely do it. Yeah, that's like the modern day,

like back, you know, the original Reddit stories about the 90s and they talked about how they don't have cell phones and didn't have social media. And it's like in a way that was safer. But with all of these great technologies, there presents all these new privacy issues, being stock, cyber stock, all that good stuff. Oh my God.

Okay, moving along. One last one and then we are done with spooky light edition. Cool. This one is 17 hours old. It is titled, I'm a skeptic, but now I'm sold. So I'm open to ideas, explanations, slash stories. Give me whatever you got, but this is crazy. So I recently started working as a 911 operator at a police department in Oklahoma. I love it. Tonight one of my coworkers was talking to me about ghosts and I told him I didn't really

believe in them and he said quote oh you will. So later on in the night it was about 3 a.m. the 911 phone rings. This is not a landline, it only answers in rings for 911. He says, quote, come get this phone. So I do, I answer the call. Immediately, I hear heavy breathing. I proceed to ask if they can hear me, who is calling. And after 43 seconds, they hang up. He laughs and turns and points to the map.

This phone number was a landline and plotted in the middle of an old base camp cemetery just outside of town. Nobody lives within 5 miles of this place. The mapping on 911 landlines is always within 5 inches of the caller. It's accurate. He then told me to redial the number. I did. The number is not available. He then proceeds to tell me this happens every night. The supervising officer came in and I asked him how long this has happened. He said every night for the

last 23 years. That's how long he's been there. They used to send officers out, but it's gated and there's nobody there. Oh, what? God. Do you just say 23 years? Mm-hmm. Every night. Every night. That's how long that supervisor had been there, like who knows if it happened before. Yeah. I want to know like the history like when was there a landline there? Yeah, this, he goes on to say this is real. I kid you not. I want to know like the history like, when was there a landline there? Yeah, this, he goes on to say, this is real. I kid you not. I saw and heard this happen tonight and I am in shock.

No way a prank has gone on this long. No way a landline cord reaches five miles in length to even reach the cemetery. The calls change times tonight was at 307 AM, but it ranges from midnight to 4 AM every single night. This is an abandoned POW burial ground, which POW is... Yeah.

Wow. Any explanations, how crazy is that? There's like no explanation for that. There's none. Well, I mean, some people are like... So we do have comments though. And the top... Well, instantly. So we do have comments though. And the top, well, instantly. The top comment is, as a truly skeptical person, I would say you should check the call logs from several random dates in the past to see if this number or location shows up on those logs.

If not, you might have been pranked by your new co-workers. Oh. But, you know. Yeah. You never know, it's a good point. I thought that maybe it was an automated landline out there, but there's no landlines in the area. The newest burial is 1945, so there's no way it's underground or something. Landline on 911 means it is connected to a cable, and the calls come at variable times, so it isn't automated. Trust me, I went through every single scenario I could come up with and I assure you based on the officer's response, he wasn't kidding.

Damn. I should remember to have a homolo on this week. Same. I'm homoloing tonight. F**k. Okay. That sucks. Yeah. There's a few more comments from OP basically being like, it is definitely real. The 911 map plots are accurate. So I checked the call history and I kid you not. We recently got a new system. It only goes back two years, but every night, this address,

911 hang up every single night. And lastly, three, the officer that came in saw the look on my face and was like, what's up? And my coworker goes, she just learned about the Fort Reno calls. And he goes, oh, on nine-one-one, and he said, yep, and the officer goes, yeah, every night for over 23 years. And that's not even the scariest reports we get from out there. And this is a six, four, three hundred and fifty pound man. He's huge. And he is a 6'4, 350 pound man. He's huge and he was genuinely actually mortified

of that place, like he was not kidding. How much would it take for you to get to sleep in that cemetery? Oh, the cemetery? Prisoners of War burial. Oh, duh, duh, duh. You said 50K earlier, you'd consider? No, I would want more than 50K.

Yeah, no, I would definitely want more than 50K, because I know that that's going to fuck with me for at least a fucking year. So I don't want to take a job for 50K that's going to fuck with my mental health for an entire year. So in that aspect, it needs to be at least 100. That would take me probably 25 to sleep out there.

25k. Yeah. What about you? What about you? Rocks. I have an excellent question. I don't know. More than 25. Less than 100? I don't know. What if I'm like 75? No. I'll meet you in the middle. Yeah, take a deal. No, I'm like probably, it's not getting taxed. Not no, no tax, no tax.

Tax free. No tax, okay. Probably a hundred. Yeah, yeah. There's one more comment I'm gonna read and this is the last one. I was listening to the police scanner for a city a couple of hours from us late at night.

Like four times, the dispatcher had the same two officers respond to a call that was apparently from an older lady who had people banging on her windows and doors and shining lights around and just harassing her. Cops go out there, say the place looks empty, no response. They make sure it's the right address, leave when they can't get a response. Like 20 minutes later, dispatch is back on with them. Lady said she could hear them, but couldn't get to the door fast enough. So they go back, wait longer, nothing. The last time they were there, it was for like 45 minutes, and it sounded like

they were giving the exterior of the house and yard a really good looking over, but they didn't find anything. At some point, dispatch did some digging and got a hold of the daughter of the woman who used to live there. I think the mom had been moved to a nursing home. She might have been dead since this was a while ago, but either way, she wasn't living there anymore, and it was supposed to be empty. And they were getting calls from that house. a while ago, but either way, she wasn't living there anymore, and it was supposed to be empty.

And they were getting calls from that house. The last time they left, the sun was rising, and I thought that's the end of it. There weren't any more calls after that. Full body chills. Wait, so they were getting calls and talking to this woman. Full-fledged ghost. And then the daughter said that she used to live there, but doesn't anymore. No, nursing home. No, nursing home are dead, which maybe how, why don't they know?

Because if they talk to the daughter when she let them know, this is someone listening to a police dispatcher. So could be missing some of the inspa, I said, inspa, infirmation. Can you tell her fried? She's an influencer guys Inspire no, I'm running on four hours of sleep after getting last night's episode was just an up and I've done four episodes this week All hunters had terrible cramps. You've done two episodes this week. Lauren's done two episodes this week It has been a marathon, but we're here. We're doing it for you.

And that was spooky light edition. Yeah, that wasn't bad. No, you'll sleep fine. Yeah. I don't think I will. Really? No. You'll be okay. No, it's that phone one. That's going to fuck me out. The phone one. The last one. Well, you can call me. Just, I'm going to bed now. Okay. Good night. I got some new sleep gummies that I'm gonna try tonight. There you go. After last night's incident.

I have so many extra ones I can pass your way to. Yeah, I'm so many. I was gonna try this new brand. You know, the best part about, so the worst part about when I get scared at night is whenever I can't sleep, and so I'm the only part about, so the worst part about when I get scared at night is whenever I can't sleep. And so I'm the only one awake and then everybody else, you know, like if I were to text you, you're sleeping, you're sleeping.

Well, no, I'm not sure. Or a shipy up to night. But like, it's just like, it's one of those things where it's like, it's when everybody that I was in contact with falls asleep and home alone. And then I start here and I can't fall asleep. And then I start hearing noises and like random creaks or stuff like that. And that's when I get really freaked out.

And you know what, like, to do here the creek in your headphone, just as you said, creek, no. I mean, it's been creek in the whole time, so. Say creek again. Creek, creek, creek, creek. But no, the best life hack for that is get yourself an Anastasia who lives in the other side of the world because she will be shot and then, well, she actually moved. But, um, yeah, she had no, um, Armenian.

Okay. Yeah. There you go, Anastasia. But, um, but anyway, that was like so. Anastasia is a fellow listener that Lauren befriended on Instagram for those that might not know. Yeah, from the very start too, she reached out to me like, like kind of in the beginning,

she's just no G real man. And she was just hilarious right away. So we just kept a friendship ever since. That's a good way to do that. Yeah. I was up until 5 a.m. So you know, you can always text me. I kind of sleep for a little bit and then I wake up and I try to take naps

But I'll try you for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm there. You know how shitty spooky season is as a single woman It's so shitty. Why I think it was great. You don't know scary movies with someone. What do you mean? You have no one to watch spooky? Cuddly movies way. What do you want to watch? I'll watch it with you the conjurer You actually want to watch that? No, no, no, no. Yeah, so like, okay, let's talk more focused. No, but then it's like all scary shit, and then you have to like go home

and like be scared alone. Yeah, that's that shitty. That's what I always say. Like I'm not afraid of scary stuff in the moment. It's later after Mad. I just like, during your story, it started to dawn on me that I'm going to have to go home alone. It just hit me.

In sleep. Alone. In my old house that has tons of creeks. It's just hit me. And I'm like, oh, my. Is blue there? Got no. I don't even have a dog.

Nothing. You want to just, you can come over to my house. No, I have to do so much. It's going to be okay. We're all going to be okay. Everyone listening is going to my house. No, I have to do so much shit right now. It's gonna be okay. We're all gonna be okay. Everyone listening is gonna be okay. I hope I didn't mess you up too much with the Sergei Ponder Moranco Time Traveler story.

I thought that'd be just fun. I had to spend my feelings. But you wish it was real though, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. But it was a fun episode. Yeah, it was fun. I like stories like that.

It was a good time. Yeah. But it's all I got for you guys. Thank you so much for being here. Head over to patreon for some fun bonus content this month other than that any notes I Can't think of something clever to say right now, so no happy fall happy fall Happy pumpkin spice latte! Love that one! There you go! That's original, isn't it?

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