Two Hot Takes - 142: Unique Experiences..

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Michaela! Sometimes you hear a story and just think "well that's a unique experience.." aka something so far fetch, unbelievable, and cringey tha...t you question how this person is even telling the tale!! Well we got a few of those stories this week.. from a cat prank to soap use gone wrong BUCKLE UP my friends! Partners: Olly: https://www.olly.com Promo code: THT30 for 30% off! Talkspace: http://Talkspace.com/tht Promo Code: Space80 NEW MERCH: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.twohottakes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Bonus Content on Patreon including FREE stories: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ MERCH HERE ! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.twohottakes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send us a letter? Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 WRITE IN TO US!!! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Index: 00:00 -- Start Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, all the lights are off. We're recording on everything. Is that recording even also? It is. Okay. And we have dual slots today, dual slot memory cards. So, yeah, we're not taking any chances. You're not going to get us this time.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Not taking any chances. Yeah. Wow. I've, like, technology, ever since Kalen's little haunted monkey came here, I've had some technology glitches. Ever since Kailen's little haunted monkey came here. Yeah, Kailen has a haunted monkey named Gordy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:36 And she made a joke and she's like, he just like is really weird around technology. And ever since then, I've had like weird tech issues. And I'm just like, it's that damn monkey. Gordy. Gordy. Why would he do that? Is he gone now? Yeah, yeah, he's gone.
Starting point is 00:00:51 But he left his mark. He went back to their house. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about him a little bit on the spooky episode. And she brought him into her house and then she heard like running around upstairs. And she's like, oh, my dog must have got out of his kennel. Dog was in the kennel.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Like it was the monkey. That's so funny also then to bring the little monkey here. Like, hey, this is my little monkey that fucks everything up. She loves that spooky shit. She's so into it. She wants to go to all the haunted houses. I've decided I can do a haunted house if I do it as like a THT meetup. If there's like 20 of us, then my odds of the ghost going home with me are a lot better.
Starting point is 00:01:28 going home with you. Yeah. At the haunted house? I don't want anything to attach to me. But at the haunted houses, like, isn't that all man-made stuff? Oh, no. I'm talking like the real spooky places. Yeah, that's not for me. That's not for me. Yeah, I'm going to give it a go. Yeah, I'm going to give it a go. But I'm going to have all of you there with me. It is over. It is. It's time for great cheer and merry. Well, that is not what we have on this episode. So maybe next week, we'll circle back to Mary and cheerful. I'm going to do like a crazy holiday episode and do like bad, horrible, horrendous family. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Happy feel good Christmas. Bad, horrible. Oh, feel okay Christmas. Okay. So that's my sandwich. I love that. I love it when we get both. A little best of both worlds.
Starting point is 00:02:17 You read, we had like a really sad or scary or bad episode one time. Well, the episode wasn't like the stories. And then you ended it with like a really happy one. And I was like, oh my God, that's just changed everything. I'm going to walk out here a happy woman. That's why we aim to kind of please over here. But today's episode, really wild, Michaela came up with this theme of unique experiences. Just experiences that are unusual and out of the realm and kind of like, wow, thought I've heard it all. But that's still a little unique. Yeah, I feel like it started on Twitter of like nobody's ever had an entirely unique experience. And then sometimes you hear a story where you're like, maybe that is an entirely unique experience or like a sentence that you're like, oh, that's never been said before. Yeah. You'll see it in the comments on TikTok videos where you're like, oh my God, finally a unique experience. And it's just the most like insane situation. So I don't want to hype them up too much in case you guys are like, yeah, no, they suck. But I think they should be pretty good. Yeah. And if you can actually relate to one of these experiences that we think should be a unique experience, let us know because I'm very curious. And put yours in the comments. Yes. I love seeing the personal ones. If you have a personal one and you're like, okay, I'll throw it out there now. Like your, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:03:38 your boyfriend ended up hooking up with your brother at a bar in Ireland. I don't, I don't know, something crazy. That can't be unique. That's definitely happened to at least 20 people. 20? I guess out of the billion, eight billion or whatever we're at. Yeah. Okay. Okay. But Put in the comments. And without further ado, let's dive in. This episode of Two Out Takes is presented by Ollie. Women always come first with Ollie. That's why they made love and libido.
Starting point is 00:04:39 A supplement that helps take the pressure off so you can enjoy yourself and sex again. Be a little self-serving and get love and libido at a retailer near you or Ollie.com. So you can get yours. That's OLLLY. com. And use code THT30 for 30% off at ollie.com. Okay, this first one. This is coming from Ask a manager, which is like this blog website where you can write into this manager, Allison, who's just like HR manager expert, and she'll give you a response back. So this is actually coming from there. And the title is, my coworker asked me to pose topless for an anatomy textbook.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Okay. I work part-time in a small sales office of about 10 people. About a month ago, one of my coworkers approached me about doing a project for his graduate program at a local university. It was for some sort of anatomy textbook or similar. It would be a photo of my breasts with my face, not in the photo, for the textbook. I would be compensated for the photos. There were some red flags in his proposition.
Starting point is 00:05:49 The photos would be taken by him in my home. and he never presented me with official paperwork about it. I called the university, and they assured me that whatever project he was working on was not through their university, as there would have been extensive paperwork, screening, photos professionally taken, etc., which was what I had figured in the first place, particularly for such a large university and for a master's program. My question is, is this a matter that I should bring up to my, boss? Is this something that she needs to know about? Yes, yes, your boss needs to know about that.
Starting point is 00:06:31 This is such an elaborate plan to just get pictures of a woman's boobs. Like, oh my God. Sir. It's for an anatomy textbook. Come on. Okay, then where's the studio? Where's a professional photographer? Like, why would you choose me? Why, like, why would this not go through some kind of blind, like audition. I don't, like, I don't know how you actually choose a model for a textbook, but it's not that co-worker as someone I'd like to see the boobs of. I feel like people sign up to be models. Yeah. Like, they put themselves out there or go to casting calls. It's not like, totally. Oh, this random person I work with in my small sales office of 10 people also has a job shooting for anatomy textbooks. Right. Like, textbooks are professionally done. Like, I would imagine that
Starting point is 00:07:21 whoever is doing the textbook is like an actual professional photographer. Not like this is some side gig. And it wouldn't be at your house. At your house. No. No, this is so weird. Like either way, even if he did have a textbook that he was shooting for, it is still inappropriate to ask your co-worker. Yeah. Ask anyone else. Put out an open casting call as you're meant to do it. By asking your coworker, I think it's even creepier because it also illustrates he's been checking her out. He's creating this elaborate excuse in order to see her boobs. Yes, and it's like, okay, so you have a textbook of you're going to shoot someone's breasts and then you're thinking, oh, who would be perfect for this? Oh, that woman I work with, she would be perfect. Like,
Starting point is 00:08:10 why are you thinking of me that way? He just wants to see her boobs. He's been like checking her out for how many months of them working together. And now he's like, oh, this is a great. This is my in. I'm going to create this elaborate story about a textbook. And then I'm going to say, let's shoot it at your house so I know where she lives. How did he even? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 At her house. Like, that's so dangerous. She definitely needs to tell the manager. HR needs to know stat because this is ridiculous. And then, yeah, the university being like, that's not even a thing. Last draw. Yeah, no. university proving it. If there were even more straws to be had, that's the last straw.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I think, yeah, Camel's back is already broken. So on the original thread with Allison, here is her response back. And it was kind of like directed towards like my question is this, is this matter that I should bring up to my boss? Is this something that she needs to know? And Allison goes, whoa, yes, absolutely today. Your coworker is trying to prey on colleagues. to take topless photos of them under false pretenses. Tell your boss, tell HR, tell other women. Frankly, even if his story were true, which it's not, it would have been really inappropriate for him to approach you,
Starting point is 00:09:29 a coworker, about this. That's not how anatomy photos and textbooks work. This guy is a creep and your employer needs to know. Yeah, a thousand percent. And I wonder if when she called the university, if the university was also like, ugh. Like, did they have any internal conversations about that? I don't know, because who knows if he's even a student there?
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah. Like, I don't understand. He's a busy guy. He's got a lot going on. And that's, yeah, I do not understand this dude's story. He's getting a master's, was it? His master's program? Apparently.
Starting point is 00:10:04 All right. And works in a sales office. And is making a textbook as part of the master's program? Yeah. Okay. It's very fishy. Yeah. We do get enough.
Starting point is 00:10:15 update. Ooh. This is coming 11 days later, and OP says this. I have to admit that I didn't wait until I read your reply. I wrote the email to you on a night when both my boss and the co-worker in question were not in the office, but my boss was in the next day, and I went in early and told her everything. The co-worker in question was immediately terminated. I wrote a report for HR, so he is considered non-rehireable for any future campaigns. His desk was packed while I was writing my report to HR, and by the time I returned to the floor, someone else had even taken his desk. Wow. They moved fast. I love this response. I know. Love this response. It was kind of emotionally taxing for me to respond to comments, so I didn't, but I did read most of them.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Our office is incredibly lax compared to most people's, I would imagine, and my background is mostly in food service. So I was honestly very surprised at how many people had chimed in with this is incredibly inappropriate of your co-worker to approach you about. I think when one is used to inappropriate work environments, these sort of interactions don't expressly present themselves as immediately inappropriate if that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, that does make sense. I think it's very normal to like wonder if you're overreacting when you're the one in the situation and it's a lot easier to be like, no, that's crazy and not okay when you are not in that situation. I mean, I've definitely had, like when she says that, I think of my jobs in, like, nightlife food service, too.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Like, I did bottle service. Like, the people I worked with made comments, all that, because, like, it's about, like, how you look to some extent. So obviously, there's, like, not really as much of a line there about comments people make about you. But then it's still, like, even in a situation like that, there are things that are, like, okay. Yeah. And it's easy to just, like, question it when you're in it. You're like, yeah, whatever. I'm used to it or that's not that weird. Like, you kind of just, like, convince yourself because also you need to work. Right. She does go on to say, in regards to a certain comment thread, yes, I was concerned about retaliation. This coworker was not only a former Marine, but a knife fighting instructor.
Starting point is 00:12:30 What? See, this makes no sense why he would be. Completely unique experience. Like, what the fuck? But as other people have commented, I think women in general are concerned about retaliation in our everyday lives, not just when someone we know is harassing us. At the end of the day, this clown couldn't even put any damn effort into making his sleazy scheme smack of the official. So I think he is not likely to put any extra effort into tracking me down over his part-time job. But I am walking, accompanied to transit every night regardless. Thanks so much for your advice. I do really appreciate it. And I appreciate everyone's comments. I hope that anyone who reads your site knows that they should feel comfortable reporting harassment when they experience it.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I am grateful that in this case, things were dealt with very swiftly and justly, because I know that isn't always the case. Yeah, I mean, hey, if any of you have had a knife fighting instructor who's in a master's program and works with you, tell you they'd like to take pictures of Utopolis for their anatomy textbook. Let us know, if you know a friend, who's that to happen to? you know like hey hit us up because that's unique i'm curious there's no way that's crazy well it's also like okay i when people start lying about stuff then i'm like i don't believe anything i'm like was he a marine was he a knife fighting instructor is that like a common thing i've well i've certainly
Starting point is 00:13:55 never heard of it but they got to be out there and he's a photographer for anatomy textbooks and he's getting his masters and he works here i think he's not a photographer photographer for an in the net well he's definitely not a photographer for an anatomy textbook but I think I think he was maybe saying he was making an anatomy textbook as part of his master's program hmm but then I'm like is he even in a master's program no I don't know and also yeah maybe he was lying about being a knife fighting instructor because that sounds like like a ooh I'm I'm a I'm a knife fighting instructor you don't want to mess with me it does it sounds fake but like We're going to have knife fighting instructors out there be like,
Starting point is 00:14:35 it's a real job, Morgan. Well, it probably is. And I could see, like, someone who is a Marine go into that. But where does he find the time? A lot of, a lot of things going on there. Where does he find the time? A lot of things going on. Well, he's got more time now.
Starting point is 00:14:48 He lost his job, so. He did. He did lose that job. Hopefully he stays away from that job. And the women leave O.P. alone. Work there, yeah. I just don't know why. There needs to be better social.
Starting point is 00:15:03 skills for people. They need to stop men. They need to stop falling into like toxic online rhetoric. Because it's like if you were just like a decent guy and like you want to see some boobs, if you just kindly ask people to go on dates and started to, you know, maybe get interested in someone and courted them, you could see boobs probably a lot easier than this. Sure, sure. But you don't get to just see whoever's boobs you want to see. That like that's just not how it works. And that is not the case. You can see boobs. but you either have to look them up or, you know, get into a relationship with somebody or have a consensual experience with somebody where you're both signing up for an experience
Starting point is 00:15:44 that you are aware is the experience you're having instead of a fake experience. You've conjected, conjected, can create it, something like that. Something like that, uh-huh. Okay, moving on in this next. Oh, there you go. So this next one we have is coming from the Ask Aubrey Instagram account. I actually have two coming from her. I've since tried to find both of them on Reddit. I cannot. So I don't know where Ask Aubrey is finding them. There's one I've seen on her page that I was able to go find. And it's on the two I take subreddit. I think because I'm a moderator, like I can see any post. And also it hasn't been removed from my sub. But I think. on the other stories I have from her. I think they were removed from whatever sub they were posted in. It's so hard to find posts on Reddit. Like I, that happens to me on Twitter. Yeah, you sent me
Starting point is 00:16:39 one from Twitter. Yeah, like I'll find a post, like a Reddit post on Twitter and then I'll try to actually find it on Reddit and it's like impossible somehow. I know. If you don't catch it quick enough and it gets removed, there's really no way of getting it back. Like you'll have the screenshots and you'll be able to see. But for this one and the next one, we obviously won't have any comments. Wow. Yeah. What are the Instagram comments? We do. We have some Instagram comments. We can read those. That'll kind of maybe satiate our craving for a comment. Okay. Here is the first one. My boyfriend's joke at dinner made me realize he's been lying about his job for eight months. I, 27 female, have been dating Ryan, 29 male, for about a year and a half. He told me from the start that he works in
Starting point is 00:17:26 pharmaceutical sales. Makes decent money, travels, sometimes for conferences, the whole thing. I never had a reason to question it. Last night, we went to dinner with my parents in Austin where I'm from. My dad, 61 male, is a retired pharmacist, and he was asking Ryan about his work, which pharma company, what drugs he specializes in, that kind of thing. Normal conversation. Ryan got really vague, like weirdly vague, kept redirecting. When my dad asked what his territory was, and Ryan said, quote, oh, you know, central region mostly. And my dad was like, so Oklahoma, Kansas. And Ryan literally said, quote, yeah, and other places, it's pretty fluid.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Then my dad mentioned some new medication that just got approved. And Ryan had no idea what he was talking about. My dad looked confused, but moved on. Here's where it got weird. We're in the car after, and I'm like, quote, that was awkward. You seemed really uncomfortable. And Ryan laughs and goes, yeah, your dad almost caught me. I was like, what? And he says, I don't actually work in pharma sales, babe. I'm a grocery store manager. I manage the whole foods on Lamar. I literally just stared at him. He kept talking like this was funny. said he told me pharma sales when we first met because it sounded better, and then it became this thing where he couldn't figure out how to tell me the truth,
Starting point is 00:19:05 so he just kept going with it. Eight months. He's been lying for eight months since, like, March. I asked why he lied about traveling for conferences, and he said he was actually doing training sessions for new hires at other Whole Foods locations. The late nights were just him closing the store. He genuinely seemed to think this was like a cute confession, like I'd laugh about it. He was smiling and said, come on, it's not that big of a deal.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I still make good money. I told him to take me home, and I haven't really talked to him since last night. He's been texting, saying I'm overreacting, and it was just small lies that got out of hand. My best friend says I should dump him immediately. My sister thinks I should hear him out because every, Everyone lies a little when dating. But I keep thinking, what else has he lied about? And why did he think pharmaceutical sales sounded better than store manager?
Starting point is 00:20:04 There's nothing wrong with managing a grocery store. The lying is what's weird. Am I overreacting? Or is this as big of a red flag as it feels? This is a crazy red flag. And also, like, the way that he confessed to it is crazy. Oh, he almost caught me. like she's in on the joke. Yeah. She has no idea. Like you're about to tell me something that like completely changes. Like now I have to think about yeah, the late nights that you had and the conferences you went to like this isn't just some small little thing. And for someone to be able to have such an elaborate lie to you for eight months, it would still be bad if he apologized and was like, okay, I have to tell you something like this has gotten out of hand and I'm so sorry for misleading. Even if he'd had like a very genuine, real. And
Starting point is 00:20:52 apology like that it still would be concerning but he didn't even do that didn't no that's a really good good point i i don't like this like i i do think that lying is like to this extent it's something that with practice you get better at and you get more comfortable with it and you feel less bad about doing it and you feel like it's less of a big deal and for him to be like so just in the zone with this it does concern me for the future. It really does because for me, I look at this and it's like, I think the response really shows something scary. It just feels like really manipulative and not necessarily gaslighting in that way, but it feels like such a toxic thing where it's just like, oh, he almost caught me, ha ha, not that big of a deal. Yeah. I just, I don't know, it's a small thing,
Starting point is 00:21:42 small thing, babe. The response is concerning. But beyond that, he lied not once, not twice. He has been lying consistently for months. They've been together a year and a half. She said, like, he's been lying about this for eight months. So I don't know if this was a new job that he then was lying about. I don't know. But he's lied to you multiple times. Oh, I'm working late tonight.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Got to take a doctor out to dinner. Yeah. He's at the store. So if he's so comfortable lying again and again and again to you, he's going to keep lying. I also think it's just like, how do you trust anything going forward? Yeah. When he's like, yeah, I'm going out. to dinner with some buddies. How do I know that? You were so easily and capable of lying in the
Starting point is 00:22:27 past about everything that like I don't have any faith or trust in you now. Yeah. Like you would never trust issues. Yeah. And it's like he's clearly able to hide shit. Yeah. Like I just think someone like this that's so deceptive you can't be with. Like he needs to go start fresh with someone else. It's not you. This is absolutely crazy to lie like this for so long. Yeah. And I, and I, I think you touched on this with the gaslighting thing. I always like the way that people fight or the way people confess things or like the way that they show up to tough conversations, I think says a lot. And this gives me the impression that like when he does something wrong, he will always minimize it. He will always laugh it off. He'll always act like you're overreacting. Like you're crazy for feeling the way you do.
Starting point is 00:23:15 and I don't like how that will continue to show up in everything that they have in the future. I mean, they're only a year and a half in. Yeah. Sometimes these things don't even show up for the first year and a half. Like, you have kids one day. You get married one day. Like, all of these different things happen. And now the stakes are higher.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And he's still, like, minimizing his wrongdoings and acting like you're crazy. You lied for eight months about your job. My dad has the job that you're lying about having. Like, that also puts her in an uncomfortable position because now she has to tell her family. Oh, my God. Her dad's a pharmacist, an old pharmacist. Like, out of all the jobs you could have picked, why that one, I also wonder if that had something to do with her dad being a pharmacist. If he was, like, trying to impress her because it's like, your dad's a pharmacist,
Starting point is 00:24:05 hey, I'm a drug rep. Like, I make good money. It was either that or it was his nightmare scenario of, oh, shit, her dad is what I'm pretending to be. and now I'm going to have to, like, lie harder. So weird. Yeah. So, so weird. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:24:21 It's scary. The top comment on the Instagram post, and when she does dump him for lying and being untrustworthy, he'll be like, I can't believe she dumped me because I work at whole foods. Yep. It's like, it's not that. It's quite literally not that. These freaking gold diggers, man. She wouldn't have cared.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Yeah. You lied repeatedly again and again, not just. just one lie, but dozens, maybe hundreds if you've been together that long and you're have enough trainings and working late that many times. Like, it could be hundreds of lies. It's so true. He might take that as the lesson from this if she dumps him, like, oh, it was because of my job and not because of all of these extremely valid red flags and things that he did wrong. He is completely untrustworthy. There's no integrity there. There's no sense of ever being able to have faith in him going forward to tell you the truth. Like, I also think at a bare minimum
Starting point is 00:25:20 too, I don't think he respects you. If he's willing to lie to you like that again and again and again, I don't think someone like that respects you. And without respect in a relationship, like, you're a mat, they'll walk over. Yeah. Like, they'll do whatever they want to do to get their way and make sure that their self is served. Especially if they've already gotten away with something like this and you're fine with it. It's crazy. Dude, this is crazy. The more I'm like, I just, I hate when people lie like this. Like, I understand being insecure about a job and like the urge to buff it up and, you know, make yourself sound more impressive. But like, again, lying to a woman, lying to anybody about what you do for work so that they will sleep with you
Starting point is 00:26:05 and date you, like that already is not okay. Even if it just happens once, like for a one night stand. It's still like you're misrepresenting who you are and lying about your identity. So to do that for eight months. Yeah. Yeah. It just, yeah. I hate it. I. Did it apply to any? Hate it. Oh, it's. Nope. No, we got no replies. Wow. We don't know what's happening. Any other comments that are speaking to you? Nothing that's worth right and home about. I mean, people are just like, yeah, he's untrustworthy. He lied about something so unnecessary to lie about in the first place and then maintain that lie for over a year. You seeing anyone else take the other
Starting point is 00:26:44 viewpoint? No. Wow. Okay. I like to see it. We're in agreement. I love it when we're in agreement. Yeah. Sometimes I have an opinion and then I hear what the actual thoughts are and I shocked Pikachu face. I'm like, I can't about it. I can't believe it. I know. I was get a little concerned for humanity based on some of the votes on some of the posts. But then I'm like, I don't know. Everyone's responding with their own experiences. Yeah. Teach. You know, do your own thing. Yeah. But moving on to this next one, story number three for us.
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Starting point is 00:29:01 When it's like an older couple, I just like, that's where I get too upset. I've been with my boyfriend for about a year. we are both honors students who are graduating in about a month. He's a good guy, and we were going to try to make it work even though we are going to different out-of-state schools. However, he has a group of friends, and when he's with them, he does very stupid things. He was out with them last night and called me and told me he was at Purple Heart Park. And if I wanted to come, I could come and see them. I live about a block away in Rita, so I told my parents, and they were fine with me going. When I got there, they were like rolling on the ground. They were laughing so hard. I asked them what was so funny and they wouldn't say. Then one pointed to an older couple who was walking around with a flashlight calling the obvious name of a pet. I cannot figure out what was so funny about that, but as the couple came closer to us, they said we needed to leave. When we got into my boyfriend's car, they absolutely lost it with laughter. I asked them what happened and maybe 30 minutes prior, one of them had spotted a missing cat poster and called the
Starting point is 00:30:13 number and lied and told the owner that they had spotted the cat in Purple Heart Park. I instantly knew the posters since one was on our mailbox and they had been there for maybe six weeks. In Tucson, we know when a cat has gone that long, a coyote had gotten it. I wanted to throw up. This was so cruel to do to those poor people to give them hope like that. I demanded to be taken home that second, and he did. I didn't say a word to any of them, and I hate that I even know this happened. I'm going to break up with him, but what can or should I do to make this up to the poor couple who was missing the cat? I'm devastated with guilt that I know something about it, but don't know what I should do. I can't ask my parents because I'm afraid my dad will actually beat the crap out of
Starting point is 00:31:02 them and risk losing his job. He's such an animal lover. This is so fucked up. To get that much enjoyment out of it and to like think it's so funny and awesome that this poor older couple is searching through the park at night with flashlights because they think that their cat's there and like they've been putting the flyers everywhere. Like she even found flyer for it in her mailbox. like it's they've been trying so hard and this is so mean it's so mean six weeks to like a month and a half of your pet being gone like that is just cruel and devastating and they're like toy with them like that yeah it's psychological abuse like it it it really is like when you are knowingly subjecting someone to like that false hope and like fucking with them like that that's that's
Starting point is 00:32:00 really messed up like that like that's really messed up like Like, it's really speaking to deranged men, like, because they're 18 to 19. They're about to go off into the world on their own. Like, these are not just kids. Like, these are people that really don't have a moral compass and need to find the light quickly because this is, this is shitty. Yeah. It's hard. What, you go ahead.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I was just going to say with, like, her question at the end, initially I was like, I don't know if there's anything she can do. I know. But then also, when I thought about it more, I was like, she probably does need to tell them that this was, like, a prank call. Yeah. Because if they have this idea that, like, yeah, they could be out late at night, like, searching for the cat, like, really trying to look in that area more, like, renewing their efforts. And it's, like, all just because of a lie and, like, a joke. I think it's probably the right thing to do to tell them. But, like, damn, that's got to also, like, for them, their faith in human.
Starting point is 00:33:00 man, and he's going to be shattered after that. I know, and it sucks because it's like, that's not O.P.'s job to have to do that, but it is kind of one of those, like, it would just be a nice caring gesture to be like, hey, like, I, and I would just, like, remove yourself from it. I'd almost just be like, hey, I heard some kids talking at school that, like, they prank called you guys. I'm really sorry. Like, I don't think they saw your cat, like, based on what they were saying about this prank.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah. And just remove yourself. You don't have to say my boyfriend. like, but like I think you could definitely tell them. Yeah. And you can offer like next time you look, I can go with you. I mean, if you really want to do something to like try to make it up for them. Yeah. Maybe this is the start of a beautiful friendship. Who knows? But yeah, it's not O.P.'s responsibility. I think just sharing that information with them so that they're not doing more sleepless nights looking for this cat. Yeah. Top comment on this one. To back you up, I can truthfully say there is
Starting point is 00:34:00 no way I could continue seeing someone who not only did something like this, but laughed and laughed about it afterwards. Disgusting. No wonder you are so upset. I feel for you and wish you and the cat owners all the best. The laughing about it and the the amount of enjoyment they got out of it is definitely the worst part in my mind. It's sick. It's the enjoyment of someone's suffering. And even if it wasn't the boyfriend's, like, idea and he just went along with it, it's like, okay, so you're just like a follower to like anything, any awful thing people say? That's like, ew. I don't want to be with someone who's like a weak-willed, no backbone asshole. Like you're an asshole and you're weak. Yeah. Yeah, it's not looking
Starting point is 00:34:48 good for you. Yeah. My guy. So we do get an update. We get an update. We get an update. So I posted the original on Sunday morning after it all happened, and here it is. So basically, breaking up with my boyfriend was an easy decision, and I did it over text. He said that like after a year he deserved better than a text breakup, I said after what I saw him do on Saturday night, he really didn't. He tried to say that the prank was not his idea, and I really needed to cut him some slack. I said that maybe it wasn't his idea, but I saw him laughing just as hard as his first. friends, and that was enough for me. He's been a total shit at school, but it started turning on him bad when I explained to people why we broke up and who he was with, a guy who graduated last
Starting point is 00:35:36 year who's a creep. What was harder is what I should do with the people. I had two choices, as I saw it, either not call and let them have false hope the cat was still alive, or call and let them know they had been pranked. Basically, after thinking about it all day, I decided that if it were my dog in question, I'd want all the info I could get. I was so nervous calling them, but the lady answered, and I think I said I had some information about their lost cat. She basically stopped me and said that it was a miracle, but their cat had been turned in to Pima County Animal Control two days prior, and they finally gotten a return on the chip, and they called them that very morning, and they had just gotten the cat home. Oh my God. I was so...
Starting point is 00:36:22 So relieved because I didn't have to tell them some awful news about how my boyfriend was a piece of shit. I was also happy for her because she seemed so happy. I told her I was very happy her cat was home and said goodbye. So that's like really good news and I'm happy to get rid of my idiot boyfriend. Oh my God. I didn't expect a happy ending to this. Oh, Kayal is here teared up. Because I thought there's no way they're ever going to find the cat.
Starting point is 00:36:52 So the only two things that can happen here is either, you know, they tell them it was a prank or they let them have false hope, like she said. Yeah. And this secret third option? Like, are you kidding? Thank God. Behind door number three. My faith is back. Things can be okay.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Oh, I know. Really good ending. And hopefully boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, wakes up, gets his shit together. Yeah. I mean, it's not. It's pretty. It's pretty. irredeemable, but maybe there are some 18-year-olds who still have the potential to grow and
Starting point is 00:37:29 become better people. And I think a lot of people in this world do something that they maybe spend the rest of their lives feeling bad about. Like they say something or they, you know, act in a petty way that like just wasn't necessary or whatever. And then they're, maybe he'll grow a conscience after this. I don't know. I think so. I think, like, if you got dumped over something like this, I hope it doesn't push him the other way where he's then resentful and sneakier and whatever. Like, I hope this is like a, oh, yeah, no, this was shitty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 There's consequences. And hopefully he learns. I mean, he's young, 18, 19, however old, but like, you got to grow up at some point. Yeah. We do all have to learn empathy. Like, it is a learned thing over time of like, okay, I'm not the center of. the universe like just because I'm living in my head doesn't mean everyone else isn't living in their heads too you know but yeah for some people it's a slower experience I think so I'm I'm more
Starting point is 00:38:32 lenient now because the cat's okay and was returned I'm like still definitely stay broken up yeah no no no but I'm like maybe this guy has there's a chance there's a chance there could be a better person I don't know yeah I don't know it is interesting that's like a conversation we've had quite a bit on this podcast is like, is empathy something you can learn? Like, are we just born empathetic? Like, there are some people that I think, like, they, they would just will never get empathy. And I think that's just the way their brain is. Something's not firing in a part of their brain. I don't know. But, like, I do think you can also learn how to increase your empathy. Yeah. I think, I mean, I remember being some kind of age in the teens. And, like,
Starting point is 00:39:17 like understanding for the first time that like other people's perspectives are because they've had completely unique experiences from mine. And like, you know, like I think you start to understand other people more and more and more. But I do think also, you know, children are often very kind and like sweet and understand like, hey, that hurt mommy. And like they learned that lesson pretty young. Yeah. They like hit mommy and it hurts or something. But yeah, I think you see this a lot with teenagers and even though 18 is technically an adult it's like there's sometimes 18 year olds aren't really adults yeah I mean there's guys in my life that like were very immature for their age and they were they were like two years behind what their actual
Starting point is 00:40:05 age was just because of school and you know they were in a different grade than what their age was supposed to like put them in eight like grade wise or whatever that is so I think like everyone can mature a different race, but like, okay. These are the moments, though, that, like, could make that. 100%. This is the fork in the road. So, hopefully he takes the right path. But moving on to this next one.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Very nice of us, very generous of us to, hey, to give them a little bit of hope there. If that cat wouldn't have been okay, I would have been driving to Tucson and hitting someone with the bat, but cat's okay. So we're okay. Boarding for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo? Great idea.
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Starting point is 00:41:35 I believe you. If Morgan is saying a Reddit story is worth a read, all right. Strap me in. Buckle up. So this is titled, My Boyfriend's Mom gave me a purity test at family dinner. And now he's mad at me for leaving. Oh, God. Unique experience, for sure. A purity test. Okay. I, 26 female, have been dating my boyfriend, Ryan, 28 male, for about 10 months. Things have been pretty good into last weekend when I finally met his parents at their house in Atlanta for Sunday dinner. Hey, I got Atlanta on my shirt. Look at that. I was so shocked when she gave it to me. I didn't even know what say. I just stared at her. She took my silence as me refusing to answer and said, I see. So you have
Starting point is 00:42:25 things to hide. I stood up and said I needed to use the bathroom, but instead I just grabbed my purse and left, called an Uber from the driveway. Ryan didn't even notice I was gone until like 20 minutes later when he came back inside. He's been blowing up my phone ever since saying I embarrassed him in front of his parents and I should have just played along to keep the peace. His mom is apparently very upset and crying saying that I rejected her attempt to get to know me better. Ryan says his mom is just protective and comes from a really religious background, so I need to be understanding. But like a purity test on an app at 26 years old, am I insane or was that completely out of line? I cannot imagine this happening.
Starting point is 00:43:13 So it's an app. It's a purity test on an app. It must be. Yeah. Okay. It's not, O.P isn't writing this the best. I mean, a lot of people I think are like kind of like, are we sure this one's real? But I will say, long before AI ever existed. And obviously people could still write creatively online. I had a story. And it was an episode. It was an unhinged episode. I think it was unhinged 2.0. Me, Lauren and Justin. And we had a story. And we had a story. And it was an episode. It was an unhinged. It was an unhinged. a story about a woman writing in and her fiance had kind of blindsided her the night before the wedding and was requesting that his family check her hymen for purity before the wedding. She's still intact. Oh, my God. So I do think there are people out here that are like this. I feel like there's stories we've read or things where people have been like, yeah, his mom confront to me and ask me if I was still a virgin.
Starting point is 00:44:12 if I was good enough for her son or like you know people imply stuff like that all the time yeah I think that the the purity app of it all especially upon first meeting is like what makes us a unique experience but to have like a mother-in-law or like mother of someone try to find out if their future daughter-in-law would be pure like that is not that crazy like that that unfortunately is happening and I cannot imagine like showing up to meet my partner's parents for the first time and they pull out a purity app and say, take this test. And then, oh, so you do have something to hide.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I'm 26. I am 26 years old. Like, yes, I've lived a life. God forbid, I've lived a life. So doing some quick research, there is an app in the app store. I was going to look for this. It is called the Rice Purity Test Plus. Looking at some of the
Starting point is 00:45:12 questions. There's a screenshot. Does it have reviews? No reviews yet, not enough reviews to generate a rating. But this is real. From what I'm seeing, this is real. And here are some of the questions. Held hands romantically. Ben on a date. Been in a relationship. Dance without leaving room for Jesus. Kissed a non-family member. Kissed a non-family member on the lips. French kissed. French kissed in public. kissed on the neck, kissed horizontally, given or received a hickie. Kissed horizontally. Kissed or been kissed on the breast. Kissed someone below the belt.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Kissed for more than two hours consecutively. Played a game involving stripping. This is like, this is so funny because this is also kind of a meme that goes around on like Facebook or Twitter or whatever social media app sometime where it's like, oh, add up your score and if you've done these things and then say what your score is, but don't say why your score is what it is. And it's like, oh my, you know what? So that's what it does. Every single time you check the box, it does subtract a point. I believe there's a hundred questions. I can only see to number 43. I'll make sure we post the image on our Instagram so you guys can see. I don't, I don't know if you'd
Starting point is 00:46:29 be able to read it on YouTube, but we'll put it in there as well. Everything's subtracting from your score. And then like having to say that to your partner and their family is so demeaning. Like, oh, here's my number out of this of how pure I am. Like, I mean, they start to get a little crazy too. Like, seen or read porn, gone through the motions of intercourse while fully dressed, undressed or been undressed by a member of the preferred sex, showered with an MPS, member of the preferred sex, fondled or had your butt cheeks fondled, had your breasts fondled, had or given blue balls, had an orgasm due to someone else's manipulation. Are these worth different amounts of points? Purchased contraceptives. Like is holding hands going to subtract the same amount as? I believe so. That's crazy. It's not even a good test. Yeah, it's used to see how pure you are. It's free, fun, and exciting. It has 100 questions, and the
Starting point is 00:47:29 lower the score you get, the more things you did, and the less pure you are. It's fun, free, and exciting. I believe that this is a thing because when I was going through my like elementary school stuff, I found a contract that I had signed with the church. And I grew up Christian and they had like created this contract of like, I will not kiss until this age. I will not date until this age. And then it has like my like seven year old signature on it. So this does not sound far off to me because yeah, I literally signed a purity contract. I just like I don't understand this mindset. I'm like I'm lost in the sauce on this website.
Starting point is 00:48:12 There's now there's a website for it too, the rice purity test.com. And it goes, caution, this is not a bucket list. Completion of all items on this test will likely result in death. Stop. This is not a bucket list.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I mean, question 70 had sexual intercourse 10 or more time. She is 26. Traveled. Okay, I'm like fucked up. I would actually check so many of these boxes. Yes, because you're an adult woman. Traveled 100 or more miles for the primary purpose of
Starting point is 00:48:47 sexual intercourse. Yep, right here. I'm taking planes 2,000 miles to get fucked. Like, what? Wait, no. This mom would hate my guts. That being a question is so funny and that's also hilarious. Had a pregnancy scare.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Ding, ding, ding. Well, yeah. I have not done number 100, though. Okay. Engaged in bestiality. So there's some wonky questions on here. And again, is that worth the same amount of points as holding hands? Like, there should be some...
Starting point is 00:49:18 Let's find out. Let's find out. Okay. So I'm clicking holding hands. Okay. Calculate my score. 99. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:24 So it took one off. Right. I'm going to take this lovely test again. Okay. Beastiality, for example. Beastiality, score of 99. Same amount of points. Holding hands or participating in beastiality.
Starting point is 00:49:40 This is not a well done test. Same amount of points. So given all of our research here, yes. You know, I always say, I believe these stories about 90% of the time, I actually, I'm very convinced looking at this app. I absolutely believe that this is a thing that would happen. And honestly, like, even if it's not a mother-in-law with a purity app, I'm sure that there are like pastors out there. You know, when people are like getting married and they consult with a pastor,
Starting point is 00:50:09 I'm sure that there's like some communities where this purity test in a written form of some kind is used. Like this does not sound like they made an app based on there being no paper trail history of it. It's just such a crazy thing to do in 2025 as well as like to a 26 year old woman. And that's the thing. He's 28. She's 26. Like, is he also getting this purity test? Like, does his mother care about his purity? Or is it only this girlfriend? Like, if her mother gave him the purity test, would like his mother also think that's weird? Like, why are you doing that to my son? Yeah. No, this is absurd. Yeah. I think the overall question, am I insane? No, you're not insane. Was that completely out of line? Leaving the family dinner in an Uber? No. No. I would have done the same thing. Yeah. The fact, like... I do wish, like, you would have just given your boyfriend a chance to be like, hey, this is really inappropriate. Like, I'm going to go. I wish you would have him a chance. Did he not have that chance? I think she just kind of like left and went out and just like gotten the Uber and left. Sounds like he wasn't there during this conversation.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Oh, really? Like he was outside, maybe cooking, hanging with dad. Interesting. Whatever. Maybe she's helping mom in the kitchen and she slips the app her way. I do wish you would have given him the chance to respond. Like, I think you already have a boyfriend problem based on him being like, she was just trying to get to know you. You already have a boyfriend problem, not just his mom being an issue. But if he would have stood by you more in the moment before you left, then I would have been like, okay, like, you know, boyfriend's a good guy.
Starting point is 00:51:52 He's standing up for you. Mom's crazy. Right. But at least, you know, now you know. and he can set some boundaries with her. Yeah. But that's not the case. Now he's taking his mom's side for this absurd, crazy thing.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And no, I think it's a toxic, like, triangle to get into, like, now mom's crying. She's like, oh, my God, I can't believe this happened. Why did she get so upset with me? They're enmesh. We all know that. You all were hearing it in your head before I even said it. I've held off for quite some time saying that now, you guys. Because we were doing research.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Because we were on the ground doing research. You're on the ground doing research, but I think, like, you chalk this up and you run the other way. This is a unique experience that you have for the books. You know what to avoid. Hopefully, this comes up a lot sooner in other relationships. If it comes up again and is not a unique experience, but I really, this one's not worth being around. Like, the mom is genuinely, if you're getting this goofy the first time you met her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Imagine what kind of mother-in-law you will have to deal with the rest of. of your life if you choose to proceed down this path. The audacity. The like, oh, I can do whatever I want. Like, I can't imagine that that would ever get better. It would just get crazier and crazier over time. Well, and the fact that he, like, I'm, like, looking at his response and getting so mad, he said, like, she should have just played along to keep the piece. Right. So he knows what she did. Then he still is taking his mother's side. Yeah. And it's like, why do I have to talk about my intimate experiences? Because some of them are intimate. Like, if you go down and look at the questions. Yeah, we can laugh about the holding hands thing.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Pregnancy scare and like. A lot of intimate personal questions. Questions that honestly violate HIPAA. They violate HIPAA. That would be such a funny response. I'm sorry, but this violates HIPAA. Like, come on. So I think at that point, it's like, no, I'm not going to entertain someone basically harassing me and violating my privacy and being completely inappropriate. That is none of your mother's business. Do you want me to go into detail about how I suck your dick? with your mom? Oh, in that time, I fingered your butt hole. Yeah, should I tell your mom that? Why would she even want to know about that? I, like, would not want to know. Because she wants to fuck her son. Oh. She wants to know exactly what her son is doing. She's going to live vicariously
Starting point is 00:54:15 through this purity test. Oh, my God. That might be a reach. Okay, that might be a reach. But it's, it's gross. And I think you need to break up. And inappropriate. It has to stop. The top comment on Instagram, what's worse than a boy mom? A religious fanatic boy mom. Run. Next comment. He took his mom's side. He always will. Next one. How is he not furious at his mom for being embarrassing? Also, people need to stop misusing that word. A fart at dinner is embarrassing. This is just way out of line bat shit crazy behavior. Yeah. I will say the Instagram comments, they're a little more rambunctious than what we see on Reddit these days. like the Instagram comments. Bat shit crazy. It's so entitled and like inappropriate and wrong. I just, yeah. I'm at a loss for words.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah, if he can't take your side in such an obvious situation like that, you are signing yourself up for a world of disappointment and being left out to dry. Yeah. Okay, this next one, coming from our very own two outtakes subreddit, seven days old. Seven days. Yeah. Titled, my ex posted a happy anniversary with me six months after we broke up. I'm obsessed with this.
Starting point is 00:55:37 So my ex and I broke up in April. It wasn't messy, but it wasn't exactly peaceful either. He wanted to focus on himself, which was code for flirting with girls on Discord. Anyways, fast forward to now, November. About seven months. And one of my friends sends me a screenshot from my. his Insta story. Quote, happy three years, love you forever, with a picture of us from 2022. I actually thought it was a throwback or something, but no, he literally captioned it like
Starting point is 00:56:11 we're still together. We haven't spoken since the breakup. I'm not blocked or anything, just ignored. So now I'm sitting here getting texts from mutual friends asking if we got back together. And I'm like, what alternate reality is this man living in? I don't know if it's to make me look like I still care or to make him look like he's the loyal one who never moved on. But either way, it's weird. Like, dude, we broke up half a year ago. You can't just retroactively celebrate an anniversary that doesn't exist. Part of me wants to respond with Happy Delusion Day, but I'm being good. At first, I was like, oh, this is so funny. This is so crazy. And now I'm like, is this scary? Yeah. Like, I think it might be a little bit scary because obviously someone having
Starting point is 00:57:06 delusions that involve you is a scary situation to be in. Sure is. I have one friend, my friend Ellie, her ex posted like on her birthday, happy birthday to my favorite ex, which was already crazy. But this is so much crazier. Ellie, what the heck? They're like friends. It's just, it's like objectively a hilarious thing to post. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:33 But yeah, like, I don't know if, like, is he having some kind of health, like mental health problem? That's what I'm getting. Is he actually, you know, or is this more of like a scary stalker type situation? Or is he like, I don't, like a secret third option that I'm trying to think of. It is really for me. I'm like it's giving, it's giving mental health crisis and just like, okay, something is really up here and he needs some help because the delusion, you broke up. Yeah. What'd you say seven months? Like seven months ago. You broke up in April. It's now November and we've been broken up for half a year, over over half a year. And you're posting a three year anniversary. We're not together. Yeah. So who are you trying to impress? It's not me.
Starting point is 00:58:23 And if you're not trying to impress someone, it's pure delusion. Right. More than anything, if someone's lying about being in a relationship, it's usually like pretending that they're not in one so that they can hook up with people. I know. Like, I don't see what the upside of pretending you are still in a relationship with somebody is. Maybe the flirting on Discord hasn't worked out. And so now he's just trying to look cool to the other guys he plays Discord with.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Oh, yeah, like I've got a girlfriend. Yeah, I got this hot girl. like bo bo bo like he's probably telling all these discord people like oh no no no like I'm not hitting on you I have a girlfriend right because the other thing that's confusing to me is this isn't proceeded by any like he's been texting me trying to get back together or you know he's he's texted me as if things were normal before he's shown up at blah blah blah like this isn't like over the last seven months he's been trying to keep that relationship still going it's like out of nowhere he's posting this So that's why it feels kind of performative in a sense. Performative is a really good word for this. Yeah. And yeah, maybe that is it. Maybe it's about these Discord people.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Maybe he's trying to be like, well, I have a girlfriend anyway. Maybe he was rejected and everyone knows it on Discord. And he's like, well, I'm fine. I've still got somebody. I don't know. Either way, hopefully it's more like that because that makes it less of a threat to her, I feel. True. It's like, okay, my ex is crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:49 and he is not succeeding at finding women after we've broken up. But I don't know. I don't know either. It's really weird. So let us know. I know. Keep us posted on this. I would respond knowing me.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I'd be like, hey, curious about this. We're not together. Right. Like, can you take this down? Like, I wouldn't want that up there even. Yeah. Like, you can tell your friends and everyone will know and you can kind of clear the air. But at the same time, like, I also wouldn't necessarily want that out there.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I'd be like, what's going on? Why are you posting this? Hey, like, why did you say that? And then you can also figure out if there is a threat. Right. Like, is he going through a mental health crisis? Is he delusional? Could he show up? Like, could something bad happen? Or, like, is he just trying to look like he's got game? Right. Or did he lose a bet? Did he, did he get dared? Like, did he? Oh. Yeah. You know, like, I don't know. I'm trying to think of any other possible reason. But that's a really good point. So weird. Beyond. I hope she asks him and then tells us. That's what I need. I need to know how this played out. Let me see if there is an update. So top comment on the post, not going to lie. That is fucking weird. Yeah. That's unhinged behavior, says the next comment. You can't celebrate an anniversary with someone who's not even in the relationship anymore. Good on you for keeping it classy. He's clearly doing enough embarrassing for the both of you. someone goes exactly an anniversary with who you can't be in a relationship by yourself buddy it's called daydreaming not dating i'm not seen any comment no update to the post so please let us know mark yourself safe for us please i know it's very very odd because there's such a spectrum
Starting point is 01:01:43 of possibilities here like the least concerning being like this was some dare or this was like, I don't know, lost a bet. I don't know. Worst is he is having delusions that he's still with you and could get violent. Yeah. Keep us posted, please. And I don't know. Definitely unique experience. Like usually it's not getting pictures posted of you once you've broken up. Right. I just said, I don't know. I've heard of like. Unless you're still friends and hanging out. Yeah. No. Like that's so different. But you're broken up and he's posting for your anniversary like what what's happening yeah i've heard of like trying to get someone back and posting like i miss you like like crazy you know like facebook posts of i miss what we had but not pretending that you're
Starting point is 01:02:31 still together that's where it's like what is going on here yeah it's a bit perplexing it is a bit baffling i'm confuddled by it yeah befuddled even yeah so am i by this next one Is it befuddling? That's a big word. Is it befuddling? Befuddling? Could be a theme. Befuddling.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Dating can be scary. Befuddling voyage into the unknown. Confusing or perplexing. Befuddling. I'm befuddled. So this is coming from our friend, Charlotte Dobre's page. It is titled, Am I Overreacting for throwing out all of our soap? after finding out how my boyfriend actually washes himself.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Now I'm scared. So I, 26 female, don't even know how to start this without gagging. This happened earlier this week, and I'm still going through waves of disgust and disbelief. My boyfriend, 28 male, and I have been together for about a year now. We recently moved in together about three months ago. Before that, we'd spend weekends together, but I never really paid much attention to how he showered. I guess I just assumed he was like everyone else.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Soap, lufa, washcloth, maybe body wash, maybe even one of those fancy shower puffs, you know, normal hygiene. I'm so scared. But oh, how wrong I was. So around this Monday, he had been
Starting point is 01:04:05 feeling sick the night before, some bad food, he said. I woke up to him rush into the bathroom. Poor guy had a bad case of diarrhea. No big deal. He took a shower, afterwards, and I didn't think twice about it. I had showered earlier that morning, and by the time he was done, I was already half asleep, so I didn't go in there again. The next morning, I got up to take my shower. I pick up our shared bar of soap and saw boo-boo chunks on it. His booboo chunks on it.
Starting point is 01:04:39 This was actually worse than I meant than I imagined it could be. I gagged so hard I almost threw up. I dropped the soap immediately, turned off the water, and just stood there trying to process what the hell I was looking at. When I finally called him over, I asked him what the hell happened to the soap. He looked confused. I explained what I saw. And he goes, quote, Oh, yeah. I took a shower last night after I went to the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:05:04 I probably didn't rinse the soap off right. Dude, what? And then that's when I learned something that made me question everything about this man. he doesn't use a washcloth or a lufa or a body brush or even his hands in a lathering way he literally takes the bar of soap wets it wets himself with the shower hose and rubs the bar directly all over his body from head to toe including his armpits his dick his ass and apparently after having diarrhea i didn't even know what to say i just stood there horrified replaying every single time I'd use that damn bar of soap on my own lufa or washcloth.
Starting point is 01:05:49 So the next day, my first thought was to throw away every bar of soap we had and both of shared leaving just my body washes in the shower. When he saw me doing this, he got defensive. He asked why I was overreacting and said I was making a big deal out of nothing. I told him I wasn't comfortable sharing soap anymore because now that I know what he's been doing it's just nasty i didn't shame him i just said i didn't realize that's how you washed and i can't share a bar like that again he got quiet and said so you think i'm dirty i told him no i think the shit that you put on our soap is dirty i think the shit that i can see on our soap might be i told him
Starting point is 01:06:34 no but that his method is unsanitary which i mean come on it's objectively gross especially if you're using the same bar that touches your butthole in private parts, then it sits there collecting whatever didn't rinse off, like the poop chunks. He didn't storm out, and a few hours later, I got a call from his sister asking me why I embarrassed him and made him feel like a disgusting person. Apparently, he told his family about it. His mom texted me something like, men have been using bars of soap for generations. What?
Starting point is 01:07:07 You're making it sound filthy. Why is this becoming like a traditional, like this? Am I insane for thinking this is different, though? Like, yes, people use bar soap, but most people don't literally rub it between their cheeks and then put it back for someone else to use. Now he's been giving me the cold shoulder and his family thinks I'm some germ-obsessed neat freak
Starting point is 01:07:29 who humiliated him over a piece of soap. So for second opinions, am I overreacting? This made me physically ill, Morgan. I already feared what this situation could be from the title, and it was so much worse somehow. Like, this is a health hazard. She could have gotten some kind of, like... Pink eye. Yeah, like a bacterial infection.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Pink eye. And like, yeah, like... Also, he has food poisoning. That's why the diarrhea is there. Like, you are sick, sir. Yeah. use that bar of soap as a douche. He was douching his asshole with the bar of soap.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Oh, I don't feel okay. I don't feel okay. Like, this isn't okay. The fact that there were chunks on that. No. Chunks. No. She can only ever, while she's dating him, use body wash now with a sense of peace.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Like I, body wash with a pump. I would, yeah, I would immediately feel like I need to, like, bleach my entire body. Like, I don't know how, like, this would make me feel very ill. Like, I'm trying to think, okay, movies, like, in movies, in things, like, I've, I've taken a personal bar of my soap, and I've, like, took the soap bar on my armpits before. Yeah. I would never put that soap bar up my ass, and it's not a soap bar I ever shared. Granted, armpits are gross, too.
Starting point is 01:09:06 So I don't know. Like, I'm like, is this a thing? Is this a common way to use the bar of soap? Because like, does the soap kill germs as it sits there? Because it is soap. Can soap grow germs like a petri dish? Or does soap kill germs? Like, do we have to be this scared?
Starting point is 01:09:23 But it's the fact that this bar of soap is shared. Yeah. It's a shared bar of soap. And there's visible shit on it. And there's visible shit on it. Like, how do you get past that mentally? You didn't look after you stuck that bar of soap. in between your ass cheeks.
Starting point is 01:09:38 You didn't look. You didn't give it a, like a good wash of a rinse. Like, okay, you're going to rub that soap on your armpits, but then give the soap bar a wash. You know what I mean? I think even if someone does sometimes use a bar of soap directly on their skin, it is common sense to not put it between your butt cheeks. That. Because even if it's a person.
Starting point is 01:10:01 It's genitals that's like really amplifying this. Yes. And even if it's a personal soap. bar, you wouldn't even want that for yourself. You'd be like, oh, I shouldn't probably put my soap on some shit and then just like use it for the rest of my body again the next day. Like, even if he's not sharing it, like, I think you're still in your head, you're like, I'm not going to do it like that. Also, maybe this is an issue. Because didn't he wipe his butt after pooping on the toilet or did he just go from diarrhea, toilet, flush shower? That's what I don't know. That's my fear,
Starting point is 01:10:35 Morgan, that's what I'm really scared of. Why are there chunks still? Like, why didn't you at least give like a one wipe so you're not dripping shit as you walk to the shower? I don't feel okay. I understand too feeling embarrassed and like, I don't know. Yeah, but sometimes you do something that just is embarrassing. Yeah, I mean, Justin's caught me picking my nose here and there. Like, if you're not picking your nose, you're lying about picking your nose. Let's be real. Like, there's some things you just can't get with a tissue. Not the same thing, But I know what it's like when he called me out or whatever. And he's like, did you just pick your not?
Starting point is 01:11:11 I'm like, you weren't supposed to see that. But like that feeling of embarrassed or feeling gross. And maybe this is something he's dealt with before. But like, okay, let's address it between the two of you. The fact you're then- Go crying to your family. You're crying to your whole family. And what did you tell your family?
Starting point is 01:11:27 Did you tell them you left shit chunks on our soap? Yeah. And like, yes, she's throwing them out. Like, sorry. Get new soap. This isn't this like oppressive act toward you. She's throwing out the soap that she found covered in shit. I don't know what else she was supposed to do.
Starting point is 01:11:42 You can go to the dollar store, the 99 cent store, the dollar general. You can go many places and get new soap. I don't care. Like men have been using bars of soap for generations. It's weird. It's weird. You're not overreacting. This is gross.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Yeah. And I think. I also don't think she said anything like mean to him. No. I think she was shocked. It was like what? Like, like, what have we been living in? Like, what's been going on?
Starting point is 01:12:08 I think anyone would freak out if they walked into their bathroom and went to go shower and get clean and there was poop all over their soap. Yeah. That's a normal reaction. And, like, I can't see with my contacts in. And I don't shower with my contacts in. So, like, I... Oh, my God, that would be a really bad surprise.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I wouldn't know right away. Like, I don't want to think about it anymore. It's bad. What are the comments? Yeah, top comment. Since he brought his family into this, then there is no reason why you can't absolutely be truly honest. The problem isn't that he uses the bar on his bare body.
Starting point is 01:12:45 It's the fact that he uses the bar of soap directly onto his rectum to clean off diarrhea. And that left chunks of poop on the bar soap. That is the issue. Yeah. And he thinks that that's normal. And he thinks that that's fine. So that means it's a recurring thing, yeah. You are gross.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Like, it's not gross that you use the bar of soap on your body. It's gross that you left shit on the bar of soap. Yeah. Now, tell that to his mom and sister, since they wanted to confront you about his hurt feelings. And just so you know, not only is he disgusting leaving the poop on the bar of soap, but he is immature and runs to mommy and his sister to cry about his hurt feelings. Those two points are very unattractive in a man,
Starting point is 01:13:25 and I definitely couldn't see myself being with someone like that long term. Yeah. And that's like what I was like really trying to get at here. It's like, this maybe wouldn't have been such a big deal. And I get being defensive. You can be defensive and be hurt and be embarrassed and whatever. But the fact that you took this problem and you ran to outside sources and involved them in it and then had those sources come back and chirp at me and try to make me feel like I'm the bad person. I'm not the bad person here, babe. This is all over just a bar of. soap. It's easily rectified. Hey, you didn't know. You didn't know that you shouldn't wash that way. Yeah. By the way, lufas are also disgusting. Yeah. Lufus harbor bacteria. I don't think a lufa is any better than just using the bar of soap. But I think there's a way that you could have cleaned without degrading the bar of soap that we shared. However, not an issue. We'll throw it away. We'll get new soap. This is how you should operate going forward. Yeah. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Get a bidet. I was surprised by the poop on the soap. Yeah, get a bidet. Am I right? Yeah. Hey. A bidet,
Starting point is 01:14:34 a chatafa. That would do a lot for them. Whatever you're feeling. He would probably like that because he seems to like this like, you know, not like the dry cleaning method so much. He seems to like go in the wet cleaning method. I just, the fact that he had that big of chunks, like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Did we not wipe? We did not wipe. That is the bad. is what we're doing. We did not wait. I did not wipe. I can hardly stand it. I'll tell you that. It's gross. Okay, moving on to this next one. This is coming from our slash, am I overreacting? It is titled, Am I overreacting for getting pissed that someone had sex in my truck at the dealership? I'll make this short, but I can always add more, as this is a long story. My new truck developed a
Starting point is 01:15:21 leak just under 12K miles, so I scheduled an appointment at the dealership. After three weeks, I get to back with a horrible smell inside, with a driver's seat that clearly has ass cheek stains, not swamp ass as it has been cold here. My interior door is scratched, probably from a wedding ring. There is a stain on the seat that looks like the woman enjoyed herself. There is a stain on the floor. There is a shoe print on my headliner, makeup on the visor and headliner, deep finger indents on a solid visor. I also found a hair tie and a hair clip in my console. That is definitely not mine. The dealership refused to take any accountability and blamed me for the condition, even though it was not like this when I dropped it off. My windows are blacked out as well. I should add that
Starting point is 01:16:15 I'm single and I work from home. So there is a zero percent chance it's from me or a cheating partner. After I brought it to the dealer's attention, they cleaned it, but did a poor job, so I had to clean it by a professional. Am I overreacting? First of all, those people went crazy. Good for them. It sounds like they had fun. Oh my God. All the details of like the positions and the indents and the wedding ring scratch. Like, oh my God, they went, they went at it. This is on a porn site somewhere. This, yeah, he could find the evidence probably if he searches hard enough, but I wouldn't recommend it. You're going to see a lot of shit. Like that, no, that is disgusting. That should have been taken more seriously by the dealership.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And, like, I don't understand how they could, like, dismiss it so easily. Like, that needs a serious clean job. That's disgusting. You can't just, like, kind of wipe it off a little bit. No, and the fact, he's noticing all of this because of a horrible, all caps, smell. Oh, God, I forgot that part. There's probably a used condom somewhere lost in there. Down the crack in between the seat and the console.
Starting point is 01:17:23 And they should take it seriously because it's like this could be a repeated implausie. employee problem that you have like you need to do some internal investigations like this isn't okay behavior this is gross i feel like that's one thing like and i get people don't want to get sued people don't want to lose money so it really like has become this deny gaslight gatekeep like it right it has kind of become that attitude with customer service like you don't want to fully cop to it yeah like no no one did anything you you brought it to us like that well clean it because we are kind We're so kind. But we're not cleaning it because we admit that we did that.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Exactly. And I just saw this post from a woman also on Reddit and she was like, am I overreacting? Like my dog got back from the groomers and like his teeth are knocked out. This lady was like, I took my dog to the same groomers he's been going to for five years, like since he was a puppy. They told me that he bit the blow dryer. And so his teeth are loose now. She ends up taking this dog to the vet. Its jaw is broke.
Starting point is 01:18:23 and so she's like they're clearly lying to me and a bunch of people in the comments like one of which is a vet tech was like oh yeah like the dog probably fell off the table hit its jaw and broke its jaw like that's the force needed they're lying to you
Starting point is 01:18:40 and it's like just be honest biting something is going to break its jaw like dogs are always biting things they're biting bones honest because if that woman would have believed you and gone home that dog that dog would have been living with a broken jaw. Yeah. In pain. Yeah. Like this dog needs medical care. Don't lie. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:00 These businesses have insurance for a reason. Your insurance is going to cover an accident. Will your insurance go up? Yeah. But that is the risk you take running a business and maybe not paying attention to the dog as you should have. Maybe not ensuring that dog's safety. That is your fault, though. Yeah. And I feel, I do feel like obviously there are going to be some cases where people get you, like they hear you admit something and they take it all the way. But I think in general, where businesses get like bad reviews and bad reputations is if they don't actually handle concerns seriously. Yeah. And they try to like avoid and pretend it wasn't their fall and kind of like gaslight you about it. Because even if something happens like employees have sex in your car,
Starting point is 01:19:43 if they just fully say, I am so sorry, I don't know how this happened. We don't have any footage of this happening but I understand why you feel like it must have happened here will fully take care of any cleaning service like like there is such a way like people appreciate that and this whole like evasive thing it like it doesn't build any trust like that that person's never going to go back there no there's like something that's going around to on tictock right now that's gone pretty viral so maybe some of you have seen it but it's this girl who like set her phone up outside of like a random shop and she was trying to get like a video of her outfit she's carrying a Dunkin coffee cup and the woman of the shop it's like it must be a coffee shop bakery is like
Starting point is 01:20:28 really you're going to take that video here with the Duncan in your hand and the girl's like oh my God I'm so sorry like didn't cross my mind like I'm so sorry she goes in buys a pastry because she doesn't need a coffee she's got a coffee so she buys a pastry and then the woman does not let her stay in that shop kicks her out after buying the pastry because she has the dunkin. We don't allow outside beverages. And it's like, she just came in your store and gave you business.
Starting point is 01:20:58 She realized she might have been being a little rude, which she was on a fucking sidewalk, like, get real. But she realized maybe, hey, maybe I shouldn't have done that. Went inside, bought something and then you kicked her out. Yeah. So the girl made a video about it. Obviously, yeah. And the lady's like, oh, my God, freaking out.
Starting point is 01:21:14 and it's like, that's just not how you treat people. No. Who cares if she's got a Dunkin? Initially, I was like, did the lady think that she was like making some kind of diss video by being like, ooh, like my Duncan is so much better? No, she literally went in and tried to support. Yeah, no, I'm, yeah. It's like a small little cafe.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Like, if you would have played that cool, like, if you would have been like, hey, my coffee's better than Duncan, come on in and try some. Yeah. You would have looked great. Yeah. Who doesn't love free coffee, but. customer service like it needs a kick in the butt i think it's just yeah it's tough and it's not necessarily the people it's like it's the companies yeah companies aren't getting it and i yeah
Starting point is 01:21:55 what was the original oh sex in the car yeah we do get an update oh we get some updates on this one wait no way yeah brief update called the police they won't take a police report as it's a civil matter all they could do was document that i called this happened at redacted in Surprise, Arizona, 85388, and another Reddit member told me my one-star review is already gone from their Google reviews. Oh, my God. Which, I don't feel like people should be able to do that. It shouldn't. It's actually really hard to, like, I don't know, even sometimes fake bad reviews can be hard to remove. I know. It's crazy. The general manager called me today, which was useless. He wanted to know if the other manager called me, which he did. They're both passing off responsibility on each other.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I called corporate this past Saturday and issued a complaint, but I was advised not to expect anything. out of it as that falls on deaf ears. I will be taking to social media and uploading video, pictures, and audio recordings taken while dealing with this terrible business. Apparently, O.P. did post pictures. Oh, my God. So we have some pictures. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:23:02 So here's the seat. Oh, my God. Like, it honestly... That looks like a... It looks like someone had a yeast infection. And, like, it's like, it's like chalky, resists. do on their seat. Yeah, why does it look like that? I think that's what he's calling the ass friend. Because I swear you could have sex in a car and get away with it. There's like full blown jizz.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Okay, yeah. I'm seeing that. That's like jizz. Yeah. All over his floor mat. Oh my God. Is that blood? Oh my God. Look at the handprints. These are like fucking crazy hand creases. Like this person was like gripping like they were hanging off a cliff. Yeah. There's no. no way that you wouldn't have seen that. That looks like blood. I think there's blood. So, or lipstick. Yeah, maybe she was on her period or there's lipstick, like on the visor, on the roof of the car. Like, it is pretty bad when you look at the pictures actually. Oh my God. And if they, I feel like if the car company had been more like forthcoming and kind about it, it wouldn't have gone to like the places it's going now. No issue. I was going to
Starting point is 01:24:10 say like with the Google removed Google review removing thing they will remove any review that has like profanity in it so I don't know if like it mentioned the sex or anything like that and it just automatically gets flacked by Google for that maybe there's like certain things you have to be careful of I know that's true or if it like defames certain individuals at the company yeah the thing is though too like the dealership should have handled this because like if that is blood that's a biohazard. Yeah. That's a biohazard. Like, that's disgusting. Being kind goes a long way. So we get another update. No way. Six days ago, I posted about my bizarre situation after reading a majority of the comments here as well as social media, I dug deeper into finding reviews
Starting point is 01:24:54 on this dealership. There were hundreds of negative feedback across multiple sites about damage to customers' vehicles and or financial fraud by padding loans without customers' consent or knowledge and other shady things. Oh, my God. The day after making my post, the sales manager at the dealership called me to basically tell me it's the general manager's responsibility
Starting point is 01:25:16 so this call was pointless. The following day, the general manager calls me and basically tells me it's the sales manager's responsibility, but he will call me back tomorrow or the following day. Neither manager ever called me back.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Yesterday, I filed a complaint with BBB, Better Business Bureau, and with the attorney general with my story. Today, someone from the dealership called believe it's customer relations, and they told me they received my complaint from the Attorney General, and they would like to fix the damaged items in my truck. Oh, now you do.
Starting point is 01:25:45 I told him, I need a new driver's seat, a new rear seat cover, new visor, and a new door panel on my driver's door. He said, that's fine, and I can bring it in. Yeah, because you're scared now. I kindly replied that there is absolutely no way I'll be back at their dealership, so he told me they contract with a third-party company that comes to the customer's homes to do the repairs. I agreed to that, and now I'm waiting on the third-party repair company to call me to schedule it. I'm hoping all goes well, but honestly, I'm not holding my breath. He also said they can reverse the thousands of dollars of add-ons that I never agreed to if my electronic signature is attached.
Starting point is 01:26:20 I wouldn't know because they still have never given me copies of me asking for nine months. There's definitely going to be at least one more update regardless of what happens with the repairs. Thank you for the suggestions. It's given me the motivation and knowledge to get results. and then included more pictures of the truck seats, which same ones we saw already. This is like the scratches on the backseat. Oh my God. Like, guys, these are like very obvious scratch marks.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Like, these are deep scratch marks. I've never even seen that from like an animal. Oh. Like, to be honest. Like, I'm actually very curious. It's almost like when they were having sex, they were getting off on the fact it would be obvious that they had sex there. Like that was part of the enjoyment for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:07 No, they definitely wanted to leave their mark. So we have another update. There's a lot of updates on this one. I did not know until we got here. 10 days ago, I posted the first update. A correction last update. It was not the customer service relations that called me. It was a senior partner at the dealership.
Starting point is 01:27:23 He told me that the Seed Store Panel and Viser would be replaced. Shortly after posting that update, I received multiple calls from multiple employees saying that replacement was never discussed and that they would. will clean it up that I misunderstood the senior partner. I recorded the call and I certainly did not misunderstand. The general manager has been calling me every couple of days telling me their third party repair company will be contacting me to clean my truck. I've consistently said I'm not in need of a cleaning. That cleaning it will not remove the damage. In one of the calls with the GM, he suggested swapping my truck to a new one and I accepted the offer shortly after the salespeople called me wanting to do a trade-in, which will cost me thousands of dollars on a loss on my new truck,
Starting point is 01:28:07 so obviously I refused. The GM implied it was a simple swap, not a typical trade-in where they profit selling two vehicles. Yesterday, I got a call from the third-party company and sent pictures of the issue. He confirmed the seat can not be repaired and must be replaced, as well as the visor and door panel. He informed me that he will tell the GM, and I should expect him to call me. still waiting this would piss me off because now this goes beyond
Starting point is 01:28:38 just repairing the things that you broke because it's taking so much time it's taking so much work and effort It's a full-time job Like you need to actually compensate me Above and beyond the damage that you've done Now it's my time And it could be a biohazard
Starting point is 01:28:52 Like it's like what am I being exposed to? Yeah This looks like blood It's disgusting There's The jizz on the rug, you guys, like, just wait. I received a response from the dealership on BBB saying they are working it out with me. They're not working anything out.
Starting point is 01:29:09 They're just wasting my time. Call me every couple of days trying to get me to agree to a simple cleaning. I'll give it until Tuesday for action. Then I'll be taking the next steps to make this a legal issue. New update. Wow. So this new update is coming from this past June three months after the original post. So I bought a new Ford Maverick in Surprise, Arizona, 85388, at the only Ford dealership in town.
Starting point is 01:29:37 So if you're out there listening, I think it's very clear which one it is. I was extremely adamant about not having a service plan or lowjack, no add-ons, no extras, no upgrades whatsoever, except a factory-added tow hitch. First red flag was when it eventually came in six months later. The dealer tried to charge me an absurd amount for dealer add-ons that weren't. weren't even on the truck. So obviously, I refused that, and they did me a favor and took off the cost. Next up in finance, I was repeatedly adamant about no service plan and no lojack. It was nowhere in any of the forms I signed, and I read every word. I was in there for hours, and they
Starting point is 01:30:17 were annoyed with me. So they said that neither will be on my loan, and they'll email me the electronic copies. I never received them. I get my loan paperwork in the mail weeks later, and I was shocked to see nearly 4,000 more than what I had signed for. Oh, my God, this company. It took months and a dozens of calls to the dealer, but they refunded a majority of the service plan, and they promised the lojack would follow, but never did. Here we are a year later.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I've reported them to the Attorney General, BBB, corporate, with zero results. They no longer take my calls or respond. They did eventually send my electronic forums a year later, and they absolutely transferred my signature twice without my knowledge or consent, fraud, there is zero chance I signed to these forms. I'm not the only one that has had fraudulent add-ons in Surprise, Arizona. If you did also message me, I may be taking legal action. A small update on the damages to my truck.
Starting point is 01:31:09 While it was in for warranty work, they refused to take accountability, but I've heard from dozens of other people that they had bizarre, unexplainable damages to their vehicle as well while it was in for service. I'm compiling evidence that this has been happening for years. I have audio recorded every single interaction with this company from the beginning. They are in such a deep hole, and there is indisputable evidence of financial fraud, not just on my loan, but on others that have spoken with as well. Sue them.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Damn. Sue them. That is insane. This company, how are they getting away with this for so long? Oh, my God. Unreal. And it's crazy because they would, like, probably just keep getting away with this they didn't do things that were so obvious, like unavoidably obvious.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Yeah. I am shocked by this. Ford used to be like synonymous with like a good deal, good value, good car. But like to go in and then like you're trying to get yourself in an affordable car and then you get a surprise $4,000 ad on. Yeah. Fraud. That's just their con artist. Like that is insane.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Yeah. It's really, really slimy. Yeah. And like not sending like the paperwork that you've signed and being like. oh that guy didn't say this and that guy didn't say that it's like i hope that this that this blows up on social media because that seems to be sometimes the only thing that people take seriously i know completely unique experience quite odd yeah i wonder how many people have had that happen to them in their car at the dealership clearly a few at that dealership but i don't know
Starting point is 01:32:47 if they've had the like sex like the scratch marks and the jizz and the water and the indents and the oh my god i can't wait till you guys see these pictures they're pretty they're pretty damning they're pretty as far as evidence goes like that is some evidence well and the fact he's already had that clean those are pictures like oh yeah like the thing well those are probably taken before it was clean but even the scratch marks and stuff yeah like the third party being like yeah no we can't repair that like it's replace only yeah like that's still there then and even if you clean it's like how deep of the cleaning can you really get at the end of the day. Well, yeah, you can't.
Starting point is 01:33:28 And if, like, the foam was crushed or torn, like, that's damage to the foam or whatever material the seats and stuff is made out of. But that's just, like, so disheartening, too. Like, you spend your hard-earned money on this brand new vehicle. And then by no fault of your own, it's extremely damaged. Yeah, which should be such an exciting experience and, like, really cool. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:49 It's so sad when people are, like, like just so rude about your property too. Like, have you ever been in your car when someone doors you? I don't know. Oh, my God. I was at, I don't even remember where, like Nordstrom Rack or somewhere shopping. I'm sitting in my car, like getting ready to go out or I'd just gone back in my car. Dude in a white Tesla rolls up whips his door into the side of my car.
Starting point is 01:34:12 And I'm in there and I rolled in my window and I was like, are you fucking serious? Oh, my God. I literally like, I just instant rage. Yeah. And I'm like, are you fucking serious? And he just goes, sorry. And walks away. Well, give me your insurance, asshole.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Oh, my God. Are you fucking kidding me? I've been like, I had someone back into me. And it was like, I honestly think it was like 18 year olds. And they were like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I was like, it's fine. And I drove away because my car is like so beat up that I was like, I'm not going to ruin their day over the days. Ah, God.
Starting point is 01:34:46 I know. I had a person rear end me and it just was like too much for me to deal with. And it was like a tiny bumper dent scratch. And I'm just like, I can't. My bumper is already so messed up that I was just like. That was my old car. I'm just like, ugh. But if I had a new one best believe, I would be like, hey, give me your insurance.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Me your insurance. Okay, moving on. We've got another one that's quite interesting. I think you're going to get a kick out of. Yeah, I get kicks. I'm going to give you a choice. Okay. Okay. Option one. Bride uninvited half the guest list two weeks before the wedding because her psychic said the energy was too crowded. Yes, that one. That one. Are you sure? Okay, well, tell me I do that one. I'm really into that one.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Or my brother-in-law invited me and my husband to an orgy. That's really compelling too, but I think the psychic. Like, that's, I think I'm into the psychic thing right now. The psychic? Yeah. Okay. Sorry, guys. I feel like they're going to want the other one. It'll be on Patreon. It'll be on Patreon. I'll give it to you next on Patreon. Perfect. That's how we'll remedy that one. Okay. So this is coming from our slash wedding shaming. Five days old. Bride invited half the guest list two weeks before the wedding because her psychic said the energy was too crowded. I'm still processing this. The wedding was supposed to be this Saturday in Asheville was supposed to be. my cousin Vanessa has always been in a spiritual stuff, crystals, tarot, astrology, whatever. Fine. Not my thing, but you do you. But about six months ago, she started seeing this spiritual advisor, who she treats like a therapist, life coach, Oracle, all rolled into one. The wedding planning has been pretty normal up until last week. 200 people invited, venue booked, catering confirmed. I'm a bridesmaid, so I've been somewhat involved in the planning. Last Tuesday,
Starting point is 01:36:49 Vanessa sends out a group text to the bridesmaids, saying we need to have an emergency call. We get on Zoom and she tells us that she had a session with her psychic, and the psychic told her that having over 80 people at the wedding would disrupt the spiritual alignment of the union and create energetic blocks in the marriage. She said she and her fiancé Matt decided to cut the guest list down to 75 people, two weeks before the wedding. We all kind of sat there in silence. Finally, one of the other bridesmaids asked how they were deciding who to un-invite,
Starting point is 01:37:26 and Vanessa said the psychic helped her create an energy compatibility chart for all of the guests. Anyone who wasn't in alignment with their vibrational frequency got cut. This included Matt's entire extended family except his parents, most of Vanessa's co-workers, and about half of our family, including my parents. My parents, who already bought plane tickets and booked a hotel. Yeah, it's two weeks before. She sent out a mass email that night, not even individual messages, just a group email that said something like,
Starting point is 01:38:05 after deep spiritual consultation, we've decided to honor our authentic truth by creating a more intimate ceremony. No. If you have received this email, it means your energy is not aligned with our sacred union at this time. Please respect our journey. That's so crazy. People are losing their minds. Matt's mom called My Mom crying.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Multiple people are demanding their gifts back. Matt's brother posted something on Facebook about it. And Vanessa's response was to post a quote about releasing toxic energy. Oh, my God. Here's the kicker. I didn't get uninvited. I'm still a bridesmaid, but my parents aren't invited anymore. I asked Vanessa how that makes sense, and she said, your energy is evolved beyond your parents' energy. It's not personal. I told her, I'm not coming if my parents aren't invited. And she said, that's my choice, but I'm choosing fear over love. Then she asked if I'm still doing my bridesmaid duties this week because they need help setting up. The wedding is in four days. Last I heard, about 30 people have confirmed they're still coming. The venue won't refund them because it's too late. Matt seems completely checked out.
Starting point is 01:39:25 His family is furious. And Vanessa keeps posting Instagram stories about honoring your truth, even when others don't understand. I don't even know if this wedding is still happening at this point. Have they joined a cult? It's a cult. This sounds like a cult. Oh, like already I do think that there are, God, I even like know someone who I don't want to give too much away, but they were like seeing somebody for one thing. And then that person started giving them advice on like food and advice on like this and that and like life things. And it got to a place where it's like, why are you going to this person, not a therapist by the way, like about all of these things and they're like making the decisions about your life.
Starting point is 01:40:11 And it's hard because I, like, want, I want to give people the freedom to, like, believe in what they believe in. And, like, if they're into a little bit of, like, a woo-woo type thing, that's okay. But, like, to this extent. No, this is absurd. This is someone who's, like, taking advantage of you because, obviously, like, this has not made your wedding better. This has ruined your wedding. It's ruined the whole thing. And, like, in relationship.
Starting point is 01:40:37 It's hard to know because, like, some people do just, like, deeply believe in something. stuff. And, like, I believe in the power of psychics. And I believe in, you know, certain woo-woo things. But at the same time, I wouldn't let someone convince me, like, oh, all of these people are negative and you need to cut half them out and need to embrace people that are only on your frequency, blah, blah, blah. Like, at that point, I'd be like, oh, yeah, no, this person is taking advantage of me. But, like, it does sound like a cult. People do get sucked into cults. Like, the other day, Kaylin was talking about Scientology and how, like, she accidentally, like, went through the courses and, like, literally paid. for some of the courses and wait how was it like she's got she had to like disguise to something else yeah she like got invited to hang out with a friend and the friend was like oh you're already here you want to go to this meeting with me and it was a scientology meeting and so like I get when people can get into cults and like oh totally you kind of lose sight of like reality but it's like it's hard to tell it's like is it that
Starting point is 01:41:36 is it a mental health crisis like why is the fiancee so okay with this because If Justin woke up one day and was like, oh, no, we need to cut half the guest list. Yeah. I'd be like, what's going on? Let alone, oh, this is two weeks before the wedding. Our money's gone. Deposits have been paid. Everything's locked and loaded.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Yeah. So what? It's such a negative place to start a marriage off of. And yeah, I mean, there are a lot of people, I think, who are susceptible to the kind of language that a cult uses. Or like, like, oh, you're a special person. and you're so much more evolved than all these other people and like you should only be around XYZ and and the reason that this hasn't worked out for you isn't your fault but it's because of like these people not being good like that obviously that sounds nice and like people who are you know
Starting point is 01:42:28 either experiencing a hard time with something or having insecurities about something like it sounds very good to hear that and actually you're such a special person like who who doesn't as a child think that they're a special person. I don't know. It's tough and I don't like blame the people who end up in those situations because I think it can happen to a lot of different people. It doesn't mean like, oh, if that happens to you, you're stupid. No. No, I think it's honestly, I think the past couple years have really shown us how easy it is to fall into cults and like, yeah, cults are cults because they're good at marketing and they know what language is going to suck people in. So I do think you can fall into a cult or a way of thinking and still be a smart person.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Like it's, I don't know, it's, it sucks though. It's because like what do you do as a family member or as like that bridesmaid. You don't go. Hell no. Yeah. Hell no. We won't go. But then it's like, are you not giving them like if they're getting, I guess we don't actually know that
Starting point is 01:43:32 they're in a cult, but if they're getting like sucked in. to a situation where they need to still have people from their regular life to like try to logic with them like is just cutting them off like I know because I think they say like you shouldn't cut people off especially in times of crisis but crises well but um this might be the wake up call she needs because there hasn't really been a crazy thing like this yeah so this might be the oh no your actions are going to have consequences enjoy your wedding. Oh my God, wait.
Starting point is 01:44:06 I saw a tweet today. Let me make sure this is real and that I wasn't looking at pop base or something like that. Kim Kardashian expresses her frustration a new TikTok vlog over psychics who told her she would pass the California bar exam
Starting point is 01:44:19 only to fail. But it's like maybe it'll be a moment like that where it's like, okay, they clearly lied to me like this isn't making my wedding better. But also this was so funny. Oh my God. I saw it today.
Starting point is 01:44:31 I saw like, and this could be a rumor. But allegedly, she used, like, chat GPT to study for the bar, too. I think... Just like, girl, take out your fucking book. Take out the book. I think she said that. I think she actually said that she will ask chat GPT, like, law questions. It's like, you are not going to pass if you need to do that.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Like, you should be the one knowing it. I don't know. I want to, like, study the way she did where you just, like, study in your free time. Yeah, with, like, a private team. Yeah. Like, I've, like, thought about that, like, now. that I'm not doing OT, like what other side quest can I kind of do? Like, that would just be interesting. I still want to take that civics class from Harvard with you. We talked about that.
Starting point is 01:45:13 Oh, yeah. I want to do that. I like any kind of like archaeology type stuff. Like those are fun. Yeah, I've used it at X before and then you can do a bunch of different like Harvard does classes through them, like all types of colleges do classes with them. And a lot of them are free. And then if you want to get a certificate in it you pay for like the certificate version yeah yeah that makes sense yeah i just want to like i know being a lawyer is hard i know the bar is hard like olandra studying for her lsat like that was insane i want to like just take one just to like see the vibe like how bad could you do take a class or take the test just like a little lsat just like how bad would you just like to see i'm just like so curious what the questions are like the logic games were so insane interesting i have no
Starting point is 01:46:01 I do what it consists of besides like playing L. Woods in Leakley Blonde the musical my sophomore year of high school. Oh, that's a flex. The closest I know to the L Woods. Easy. 175. I know she got 175 in the musical. No, I just like I'm, I'm a little bored right now. I'm finding that I need a hobby. Let's, we can do sewing. I know. I did learn how to sew, ish. Like I can turn it on and press the pedal and do a straight line. So I need to like, that's a huge start a point. Start going to some classes. Hobbies are really important. Sowing just not the law school route. I don't have to. I don't have time for that, realistically. But I'm just curious about it. Yeah. Well, that's, I think that's beyond like a hobby that's like, that would consume your life. I don't need it. I can read my basic contracts
Starting point is 01:46:49 well enough and then I have a lawyer. So I'm fine. I'm just so curious. Like, you know, this, this little study on the side baby bar method. I'm just curious. I do think she is like spending a lot of time on it. I just don't think it's the same as like full time going to school. Yeah, I know very different. And clearly it's not working out for her, so. No. Top comment on this one. Don't go to that wedding. Don't help. She's crazy. Tell her that she is bad energy for you. Ooh, that speak her language a little bit. Try to communicate with her in a way she understands. I actually think your vibrations have been low lately. I think something about your Oracle. she's disrupting your energy.
Starting point is 01:47:33 And it's not putting out what people would like to receive. I think I see a darkness coming out of your aura that wasn't there before. Maybe. Next comment down. And what kind of doormat allows his entire family to be cut from the guest list? Yeah. His name was Matt. Oh.
Starting point is 01:47:51 Or Matt. You know what? There was a guy I was talking to named Matt, and he had me put his name in my phone as not a door mat. because I needed to hear that, I guess. Not a doormat. You needed to stand up for yourself a little bit? A lot of comments. Just people like, so she thinks you'd still want to show up
Starting point is 01:48:12 and provide free labor when you have said you won't come to the wedding. That's a new level of entitlement. Like, basically just like this gal has lost all sense of reality. I would love an update with this one. O.P. did delete the post. O.P. did delete their account. I bet they found it and it's become like a family drama. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Good old family drama. That's hard because if you're someone's bridesmaid, like you're very good friends. And if I had a friend go through this, I would be concerned about them. Like obviously there's the root of you're an asshole and you're being crazy. But it's also like, are you in a situation where this like Oracle person is taking advantage of you? Like I would also do my best to try to reach them in a way about what's going on to me. Like, hey, I'm worried about you. Like this can't be good.
Starting point is 01:48:59 I don't know. Something's got to give. Otherwise, I mean, that guy's got to call it. Like, if she wants to live this spiritual life, then she can do it. But you're cutting off half your family for what? Like, for her delusions? No. Well, it sounds like he might also be kind of in it.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Like, it said that they talked and they agreed on who they'd removed from the list. True. So I don't know. All of these have been incredible experiences. I don't think a single one of them is a unique experience that I'm jealous. of. No. They all are completely unique experiences and thank God for that. Can't tell which one I'd hate the most. Oh, God. I mean, I'm just like, I'm mad by them all. Like the car dealership one, the cat one really set me off from the jump. That one was really brutal. All of them.
Starting point is 01:49:50 The anatomy textbook. Do you remember where we were when that happened? That was like a lifetime ago. It feels like ages ago. Where were you when you first started that? story. I wish I didn't hear it. I wish I could unhear some of these. But that's all I got, you guys. We are headed over to Patreon with this very same theme, some unique experiences. We've got some good ones. Again, just kind of crazy, weird. I really like the stories that we did on the bonus episode. I know. They're really good. And one of these, obviously that I teased is going to go over there. So I'm going to record that right now. But thank you so much for being here another episode. And head over to Patreon if you want more. There is a free story. One,
Starting point is 01:50:29 that I teased with Sal, that's going to be over there as a free story. So come on over and join us. But other than that, until next time, bye. Thank you.

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