Two Hot Takes - 169: You're a Red Flag!

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Justin! This week's episode has us reviewing red flags! Could a guy sleeping in another girls bed not be a red flag? Are the couple you're being ...a surrogate for entitled to contribute to the birth plan or is that a giant red flag? Are pranks ever funny or do they always give red flag? We're going to need your input on these ones.. especially, what's worse than a red flag?! Bonus Content on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes MERCH IS HERE ! https://shop.twohottakes.com I can't wait to see you all in these, especially at our live shows!! Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Our SubReddit to Submit YOUR Stories!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Partners: Liquid Death: liquiddeath.com/THT -- help the fish friends! HelloFresh: HelloFresh.com/thtapps for FREE apps for life! Quince: quince.com/tht for 365 day returns! 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Think we're ready. I Have my alpaca blanket. I got from a farmers market covering my feet I have a nice little mezcal drink beside me and I got you You just like threw yourself like a fish trying to like jump out of the water you gotta Are you ready Bob the Builder can he fix it? Are you ready? Bob the Builder. Can he fix it? I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:00:29 What'd you get on the couch, Justin? Not from me. What'd you get on the couch, Justin? Looks like chocolate, so it's either you or Jerry. I plead the fifth. Okay, well, welcome back everyone to another episode of Too Hot Takes. We are filming in our house. This is the first anything I think besides ads that we've done here. And probably the first and only. No, this is pretty comfy setup. I could, I could get
Starting point is 00:01:01 with this until the studio's done. You know, well, this will be good. This will be good. Yeah. I'm so, so, so excited for this episode. There was like a comment from someone a couple of weeks ago and they were like, Justin's a red flag. And- That was a while ago. Yeah, and someone was in the comments
Starting point is 00:01:24 like defending you after. And they were like, no, you're a while ago. Yeah, and someone was in the comments like defending you after, and they were like, no, you're a red flag. And so that's what inspired this theme today is just a bunch of crazy stories that we're gonna be sussing out if that person is a red flag or not so much a red flag or who's the red flag, but. It is interesting when you go from like,
Starting point is 00:01:46 those are red flags, actions or things that happen. Yeah. Things like that to becoming the entire red flag. I know. I mean, that's just. You're the opposite of a red flag. Like we were just talking the other day and I think this is why that comment
Starting point is 00:02:04 just like kind of peeved me so much. It was like, like Morgan run. Like, and I'm like, Oh my God, like, you know nothing about this guy. Justin is the whole reason this podcast exists. I, I've talked about it in a couple of interviews I've done, but as you guys know, I graduated in April of 2020 with an OT degree, couldn't get a job for months and months and months. Was living with a California food stamp card and off my credit card, super, super depressed. And I had talked about a show and starting a podcast. I had talked about it for about a year before it happened, but Justin got me all of the equipment as a Christmas gift and taught me how to edit, taught me how to do all of this.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And there was another time in there during COVID where I was just having like the worst week and you're like, come get in the car, let's go, come on, we're gonna go for a ride. And we drove to the Grove, like a shopping place in LA. And he's like, I just have to run in and get something real quick. And he ran in and came out with a box of AirPods
Starting point is 00:03:15 because like I didn't have any money to buy them for myself. And he just wanted to surprise me with a nice gift because I was sad. You are the exact opposite of a red flag. I love you. Well, thank you. I love you too. Oh, you're just so sweet. Today he shows up with flowers after I had a tough day. There's just a lot going on in life outside of this show that's been really stressful. And I feel like last week's episode, I edited it and I was like, damn, I was so fiery. I was just like in that, I only slept three hours
Starting point is 00:03:48 like slap happy energy and now I'm like in the comfort of my home, feeling more zen. I'm on the three hours this time though. Yeah, yeah, you didn't get the best sleep last night. But I think it just makes me more just. Hmm, zen. Just like in a dimly lit candle lit room with soothing spa music in Iceland.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Oh man. Any day of the week, take me back to Iceland. Okay, well let's get into all of these red flags you guys. Let's dive in. Let's go. Do you think our neighbors are like looking through the window and like, what are they filming in there? All those lights in their living room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:55 They said they created online content. Our neighbors are probably terrified. Well, that's why we got the blinds now. I know you guys, we didn't have blinds for like two months. We had towels and like really weird stuff over our window to block out the sun. Or we just lived without them. You just kind of get used to it. It was so bright.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Okay, okay. Let's get into this before I get distracted again. Yeah, you tell that pillow. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I might feel about like this about this story. Yeah, that can that pillow. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I might feel about like this, about this story. Yeah, that can be your little outlet.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I know. I don't have my stress rock anymore. It's at the studio. So this one is four days old. It's coming from AITAH titled, am I the asshole for telling my brother-in-law and his wife that I don't want to follow their birth plan. So I, 34 female, am a surrogate for my brother-in-law, Simon, 39 male, and his wife, Michelle, 38 female. Simon and Michelle have struggled with infertility for years. They've tried
Starting point is 00:05:56 IVF and even surrogacy before, but the person changed her mind at the last second. They have outwardly shown their jealousy of my husband, James, 34 male, and me for having children, especially as only one of them was planned and our oldest was born when we were 16. They came to me last year and begged me to be their surrogate. I had doubts, as did my husband, but I felt bad for them and decided to go through with it.
Starting point is 00:06:23 James supported my decision and has acted like he did with my previous pregnancies, sweet and caring. Simon and Michelle, on the other hand, are very controlling. They made up meal plans for me and I'm taking all these supplements as well as attending multiple classes. When I told them I knew what to do during pregnancy, they didn't listen and said to me that just because I was pregnant four times doesn't mean I'm an expert.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I gave up trying to dissuade them as I knew nothing would work. We started going over the birth plan earlier this week and it caused a huge argument. They wanted me to do an unmedicated water birth, and I flat out refused. For my second pregnancy, I didn't have enough time for any pain relief, and the pain was horrific. I have quite a high pain tolerance, but this experience was awful, and I never wanted to do that again. Kudos to anyone who has unmedicated births.
Starting point is 00:07:21 As for the water birth, I don't like the idea of being submerged in water with blood, other fluids, and possibly poop. They weren't very happy about this. They said this was their baby and they should decide how they were born. I retorted and said, this is my body and I should decide how I want to push out a human that I am so generously caring for you. A lot of shouting happened and I started to get overwhelmed very quickly.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I started crying and Michelle rolled her eyes and told me to grow up. James told her to shut up, which started Simon off and it was just a mess. James and I left the house and I was crying the whole way home and regretting ever agreeing to be their surrogate. It took James and me a few days to calm down and during those days we didn't have any
Starting point is 00:08:09 contact with Simon or Michelle. Simon and Michelle called James' parents and complained to them about what happened. So they called us and we explained our side of the story. They were shocked at what happened and said they were fully on our side and that they would talk to Simon and Michelle. I'm due in two weeks and I'm so nervous. A part of me doesn't want them there, but I know they have to be, seen as it's their child. James disagrees. He said that he'll have them kicked out if they do anything to upset or stress me out. Even my oldest agrees with him and he won't even be in the room. I sort of do feel like an asshole,
Starting point is 00:08:50 but I don't know, it's a hard time right now. No, you, no, no thanks. This is a nightmare. This is really bad. You're already doing such a, I don't even know what the right word is. Huge, massive life altering favor that they can never repay ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And life risking, technically. Yes, very. And so I think the first annoying part is, yeah, I am a fucking expert because I've had four kids. I mean, I don't know if you're ever truly an expert in that, but you definitely know what you're doing. And you've definitely had four, from what we know of, totally fine kids.
Starting point is 00:09:41 If it ain't wrong, don't, what? If it ain't fixed, don't break it? No. Like if it ain't wrong, don't, what? If it ain't fixed, don't break it? No. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Clearly you didn't screw up and kill your kids in pregnancy, you know, the first time by doing something wrong. I feel like you know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You've been down this road. It feels like really condescending to be like, just because you've had four births doesn't make you an expert. They should be bowing down to her. They should be like, you are giving us everything. I don't understand why they think it's within their right to dictate the birth plan.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I'm not even there yet. Oh God, I'm so mad. I'm still on the just dictating the entire pregnancy process. I know. Dude, like, no, from the moment I signed up, that should be it. Yeah, obviously we're checking in and, you know, I'll keep you updated, but I don't need to be micromanaged
Starting point is 00:10:38 because I'm doing you this, I can't even call it a favor. It feels bigger than a favor. Like favor doesn't feel right. It does feel bigger than a favor. And especially with your experiences in the past, do it how you want. Oh my God, dude. It's like, obviously it's not like
Starting point is 00:10:56 we're in some type of different situation where it's like, all right, screw it, then I'm out. Like, no, we're obviously we're locked in and this is happening. So I think kind of what your husband is saying is right. James is spot on. If they do any sort of thing, I think like I picture a yield sign
Starting point is 00:11:21 and no matter what happens on that day, everyone and everything yields to the person giving birth. It doesn't matter. It reminds me of that story when the lady's like, yelling at the fucking doctor because he was doing crazy shit. And it's like, you are justified in saying anything you want to in that process.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I just can't even fathom going through it, but also you add in a layer of these ungrateful, they honestly are, they're acting spoiled. Like this was owed to them. Like she owed them this. And it just leaves such a bad taste in your mouth. Well, especially for someone who's doing them such a service. And it kind of seems that OP was recognizing the red flags that were coming from Simon and Michelle, the brother-in-law and his
Starting point is 00:12:14 wife. Like she mentions they have outwardly shown their jealousy of my husband and I for having so many kids. Like she knew that was going on, but still put her feelings aside and said, I want you guys to have a kid, I'll do it for you. And then to be treated like you're just some incubator, you're gonna eat this, you're gonna take these supplements, you're gonna go to these classes, you're gonna give birth the way we want. This is your family member who's doing a kindness for you, not an incubator.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And a surrogate should never be treated like an incubator. That is a human being who is going above and beyond risking their life and their future going forward because there could be pelvic floor dysfunction. There could be so many other things. And not to mention the nine months of pregnancy. I mean, it is, I don't think, like I know you can pay a surrogate, but no matter what they're getting paid, like that doesn't seem like enough given everything we know. Like it's wild to me.
Starting point is 00:13:17 So I think it's really hard with this one because obviously not the asshole, like not the asshole, like not the asshole doll. But I do see where she's kind of coming from where it's like, I feel like I have to have them there. And I disagree with that. I do agree with her husband, James. I don't think you need to have them in the room with you. I think they can be in the waiting room. And I think, yes, it could create issues. They might, you know, you might have some strained family relationships after that, but I think it is so worth it to not be stressed and overwhelmed
Starting point is 00:13:53 when you're in such a vulnerable position. And that's what they deserve after the way they treated OP. And they could, you know, come into the room early on, but then for like pushing and things like that, like keep them out of there. I picture them yelling push. I picture them having their phones out filming. They, they totally would. They give, they give that energy so much. I'm surprised they didn't plant cameras in her house to make sure she's not doing anything wrong. They probably did. These people are giving crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Like I wonder if the birthing plan was discussed before any of this went down. I wonder. And now it feels like it's being manipulated or changed that we're at the goal line. Maybe I feel like- You signed up to get a kid. You're going to get a kid. So go away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:39 It's like Amazon Prime, kids coming. Go away. You're not going to be out like in the truck with the driver looking for your package. Wait until it shows up. Yeah. Just pretend there's a stork coming. There's a little stork. Just chill.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I wonder when you do hire a surrogate and maybe if there's listeners out there that like have gone through this with a surrogate. Are you even in the room? I feel like that would be a very personal choice for the surrogate and their comfortability with- It's probably negotiated. Yeah. I feel like a lot of these things are full on contracts. They should be.
Starting point is 00:15:16 They really should be. I feel like some are, or yeah. Yeah, I could see that. Top comment on this one, not the asshole. Quote, we want you to have an unmedicated birth. We know the pain will be hideous for you, but that's a sacrifice we're willing to make. Yeah, no, they don't get to make those decisions.
Starting point is 00:15:34 No. That's like, okay, yeah, I'll just go torture myself. That's cool. And I'm doing it for you. I think a lot of people who do unmedicated either in the situation like her where it's, Oh my God, it's happening. There's no time and you don't really have a choice. Yeah. Or maybe some health issues that prevent you maybe you're allergic to the specific medicine or something, or there's the people you hear about
Starting point is 00:16:05 that want to experience it fully. And power to them. That's their decision for their birth, not for someone else's birth. No. You know what I mean? People make that choice for themselves. We actually, I actually had a conversation on Patreon with people lately because there was a story we had and I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:27 can you share if you've had a positive birth story? And there were so many on there that actually did have really positive birth stories and some of which were unmedicated. And they were like, I didn't even feel it. It felt like I was pushing out a hard poop. And I was like, what? That's like the people that get a hundred million tattoos and they're like, yeah, I don't really feel them. There's just kind of, just felt like I was pushing out a hard poop. And I was like, what? That's like the people that get a hundred million tattoos and like,
Starting point is 00:16:46 yeah, I don't really feel them. There's just kind of just felt like an itch. No, it didn't. I'm so- No, it did not. I like, I really don't want to be pregnant, but I'm, I just want to, I go back and forth because I'm like, this like surrogacy is really, it's a lot, it's hard. And I'm like, it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I feel like we'll have one the normal way. But God, I'm just like, I'm so curious how my pain tolerance and everything will be. Crazy. There's another comment after the top one. With how they act, I'm truly not surprised that the other person doing the surrogacy for them backed out.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And that's such a good point. That is another red flag is like that other person backing out. Well, and I honestly feel like she probably expected some of this. Yeah. Like knowing them. She knows them pretty damn well, I'm assuming. But you know, I think it's, I like the husband's position on it. Whatever you need that day, no matter what it is,
Starting point is 00:17:52 you got it. You need them gone, they're gone. You need them not to be there at all, they're not there at all. Yeah, I like that. That's like, that's how this has to happen. And then we'll sort it out later. Bottom line, hopefully we have a nice successful birth.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Everyone's healthy and fine and we can deal with all the shit later. But that's the priority here. OP, healthy OP and healthy baby. Yeah. Just- Because you can sort it out later. Yeah. There are a lot of comments on this one. Like people are asking,
Starting point is 00:18:33 are you getting any financial compensation for being their surrogate? No. OP says, I'm not getting anything. I figured that. So these people really need to shut their fucking mouths. Then you go away. Shut up. OP does elaborate that they will not be carrying
Starting point is 00:18:47 any more children for them. They did not have conversations really beforehand. I realize now that we should have planned it more thoroughly, but hopefully nothing else happens. And once this baby gets here, we can put it behind us. To be honest, I don't know why we didn't. I feel really stupid about not discussing everything. But honestly, it's kind of like, I get that. You think about the big things. It's like, okay, we're going to implant your egg. That's
Starting point is 00:19:16 obviously a big thing. But then it's like the finer details of like, are you going to come to the first checkup? And then every other, like there's so many things that go into a baby carrying a baby and like all this stuff. So I feel like it would be easy to overlook. The way you said that was just crazy. A baby carrying a baby. I know there was like a comma in the middle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I get it now, but it just- It was a run on for sure. Yeah. I think, cause if you look at it legally, she goes into the hospital, gives birth. If she was like, get those people out of here, legally those people would be removed. I think. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Because she's the one in there giving birth. It doesn't matter where the kid came from. There's no ownership. It's I'm here to do this. And it's, it's just gotta be her way. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Moving along. Okay. I'll relax a little. I don't know if you should relax because this next one is coming from our very own too hot
Starting point is 00:20:21 takes subreddit, it is four days old, titled, my wife wants to raise our one-year-old and our newborn as twins. A few weeks ago, my second son was born. He was somehow born on the exact day my one-year-old was born. I thought this was just a neat coincidence and joked about how much money we would save on birthday parties.
Starting point is 00:20:47 My wife, however, is taking it a lot more seriously. She is set on the idea of raising our two boys as twins. She's always wanted twins and she said the fact that they were born on the same day is a sign from God. She says if they were raised as the same age, they would be able to go to school together, having each other's backs, and believing that they would be closer as twins
Starting point is 00:21:12 rather than just siblings. I told her I'd rather not psychologically torture my son for the rest of his life, but she's adamant that we will tell him when he grows up, and it's only so he can be closer to his brother for now. I also brought up that they clearly do not look the same age and she says by the time they're one and two No one will be able to tell the difference Does she have any sort of point?
Starting point is 00:21:41 question mark Well, this is something I've never once ever in my life considered. This is weird. This is a bit of a red flag. Something's something's up here. Yeah, I'm curious on her background. Does she have siblings? Did she always want a twin? Did she have friends that were twins and she was jealous of of that that bond? I always wanted a twin growing up. Like I wanted to have a twin sister. So you have some good perspective on this one.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah. I mean, it's kind of cool they were born on the same day. They have the same birthday. It's kind of cool. It's cool, but like, it's not, I don't know. And I think- They aren't twins. They're not twins. I think it does more harm than good.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Let them be their own individual people. Let them be age appropriate. Like one and two, yes, okay, it's just a year. And by the time, you know, they get to maybe seven or eight, that's not as noticeable as a difference. But one versus a two-year-old is so different. Like a one-year-old is just, you know, really starting to walk. A two-year-old toddler running around like developmentally, brainwise.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I mean, I think it could just hurt. And boys typically, I mean, from what I've experienced, are not as academically ready. A lot of boys benefit from going to kindergarten later. And so, are you gonna hold back? Are you gonna send the other one early, thus damaging who? This isn't some easy, oh, they're twins now. How are you gonna fake a birth certificate for school?
Starting point is 00:23:23 Well, really, I feel like all the reasons, I don't think their bond will be any different. They're brothers. They're either going to be each other's best friend or not. You know, coming from an only child here. But I am curious, because I'm sure we have some twins listening. Does the fact that your twins add any pressure to a relationship between the two of you in the sense that, oh, you two must be so close and is there a pressure to be so bonded and so alike? Or not?
Starting point is 00:24:01 Just totally out of curiosity. Yeah. And are her reasons for wanting this at all justified? I know it's what she wants, so it's real to her, but is there anything to back this up at all? Or is it just simply kind of she's on her own island and just kind of wants this just cause? Yeah, I don't know. Aren't you kind of she's on her own island and just kind of wants this just cause. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Aren't you kind of curious? Yeah, people comment, let us know. There is a comment that OP responds to. Someone goes, sorry, but this is ridiculous. Why set yourself up to constantly lie to your kids? One will think he is much more advanced and the other more behind than the other and end up presenting each other and you. Don't underestimate the importance that honesty has on child development and security. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Another thing, no one else will keep this lie up. Family and friends will point out the inaccuracy and cause further issue. True. Well, and also because it's like, why? It's so strange. Why? What's the big deal? I scrolled way down on the same thread and someone goes, if God wanted you to have twins, He would have gave you twins, not a sign. Yeah, true. Yeah. That's a good one. This is interesting. As someone with a sibling about 12 months older, we grew up being treated the same. Same hairstyle, same clothes, same toys, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And basically we're likened to twins, except I was a year younger. So I either wasn't allowed or wasn't capable of doing the same things. I think it might've given me a bit of a headstart when it came to education, but the trade-off was constantly comparing myself to my sibling and not understanding why I wasn't good enough. I'm sure it's hard enough being actual twins, but having all the expectations and never being able to measure up is grossly unfair." See? That's kind of what I was thinking
Starting point is 00:26:05 a little bit with all that, yeah. A lot of people are like basically saying this would be super abusive, which I could kind of see that. Like I think it's very psychologically abusive. It's like, I think it's kind of the same as like lying to a kid that they're not adopted. Like I think kids are owed honesty.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. So. Well, yeah, it doesn't really matter what you're lying about. And you know, there's all these other things that you have to learn that aren't real at a certain age. So, you know, no reason to stack more things on there. So OP does reply to those comments though,
Starting point is 00:26:41 about like lying and school and all of these things. And OP goes, I brought this up to her. Her entire family is on her side. This is what they've all been praying for apparently. I don't know what to do. Why? Why? Why are we praying for this?
Starting point is 00:27:00 I don't know. What difference does it make? Someone goes, does she understand that you would have to commit fraud to pull this off? Lying to schools, doctors, the Pat support office. This is literally delusional. Oh, I didn't think we were taking it that far. I feel like if she wants to say they're twins, you're going to be lying to a school.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Well, are you going to Photoshop a birth certificate or? Because the years are gonna be different. I don't know. This is- Oh my God. This is wild. And then, one has to wait an extra year to get their driver's license? Or there's gonna be a 15 year old driving on the road if she's really gonna forge stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And then 21? This is, yeah, this is like- Hey, I wouldn to mind it. I want to mind it. Everyone thinking I was 21 when I was 20, that made things a little easier. It's a long term commitment. This is really something. And then you turn 100 and everyone's celebrating your 100th birthday and you're like, no, I'm 99.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I still have a year to go. Still got a year, baby. It's goofy. I definitely think there's something going on mental health wise. I mean, it can't, this can't be just like a, like no matter how much you want to have a twin, this can't be like a rational slip. Like this seems like there could be something going on mental health wise. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:28 It don't make sense. It don't make sense. It's a red flag. Moving along. One of this week's partners, Liquid Death. Justin's mom came over to our house the other day and was very concerned why I was drinking cans of beer in bed. But luckily it's just my liquid death water. And I know people always joke when you drinking cans of beer in bed. But luckily it's just my liquid death water. And I know people always joke when you're tired or have a headache, oh, did you drink any water? I'm now understanding why they ask that.
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Starting point is 00:29:48 Go to liquiddeath.com slash THT to check out all of their healthy, infinitely recyclable beverages and find your closest retailer. That's liquiddeath.com slash THT. Liquiddeath.com slash THT. Trigger warning for this next one friends it does contain talks of some bodily products so it would probably be good to not be eating while you listen this story. it is a little vintage it's two years old coming from r slash beyond the bump. It's titled, I am seriously contemplating divorcing my husband over a prank. I'm sorry it's a long vent but I honestly feel so much
Starting point is 00:30:32 rage. My husband and I are both 32 years old with a six-week-old baby. We've been together seven years. Pranking each other has been something we do, especially early in our relationship, as a bit of fun. He has been known to take them too far at times, and I don't know what to think. Since I've been home with Baby, he has continued playing pranks, and my tolerance is very low. Between sleepless nights and all of the hormones, I find myself absolutely raging at him for these pranks. And he tells me I am being too serious, I am no fun, and I am a quote, chronic overreactor, whatever that is. Three pranks in particular have angered me to the point
Starting point is 00:31:21 of tears, raging out, and I am now contemplating divorce. Prank number one was making coffee for our guests with my breast milk. I'm having trouble pumping so I don't have much stored away. I was so angry and embarrassed. Prank two was pretending to have cut his fingers off in the garden. He dragged it on for ages too and put fake blood around. Not just a quick little joke. And lastly, prank number three, which happened today and I feel is my final straw. Last night I was hinting about breakfast in bed. So this morning he brings me in a coffee, toast, and some chocolates. What I
Starting point is 00:32:05 assumed was peanut butter on my toast was in fact our baby's poop. And as I have severe sinus issues, I didn't realize it and I took a small bite. I spat it out straight away. He laughed hysterically and I told him to get out. He later messaged me and said all of his workmates thought it was hilarious, which is just embarrassing on top of it all. I'm supposed to justify it? I'm just so angry, hurt and sad, but I also don't feel like myself yet
Starting point is 00:32:40 after having my baby. So I don't know if I'm overreacting or not. Would you consider these pranks way too far? They aren't the only ones, just the ones that have caused the most massive fights. He also sets off alarms while I'm sleep deprived, et cetera. Why? What an idiot.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Grow up and read the room. Who feeds their fucking partner who just had a baby for them six weeks ago, human baby shit on toast after they say, I just really want a nice breakfast in bed. I just need that. That feels abusive. I'm getting divorced.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Done. This is done. Done, done, done. Wave all the red flags. This is a child. Wave them, wave them around because- You have two children. What the fuck? It's crazy how often people need to deal with two children,
Starting point is 00:33:33 one being their partner. It's really sad. Well, how can you not read the room? I'm sure even after the... At some point, is it just being an abusive asshole and you're doing it on purpose? Because how big of an idiot do you need to be for you to set an alarm off when someone is sleep deprived,
Starting point is 00:33:55 just carried your child, is trying to recover and just live and you're gonna do that? I'm sure there's discussions every single time. How does that not get through? And especially after these three big ones, I mean, just the, so you're already sleep deprived, you're already going through all this stuff. And then he comes running in,
Starting point is 00:34:21 like all my fingers are cut off. Can you imagine the stress and anxiety of that? It's constant. That would be instant panic for me. If you came in running inside like with that, and then it was like, come look, there's blood out in the, like no. This is constant cortisol,
Starting point is 00:34:36 which also like isn't good for milk production. It's not good for anything. It's not good for your baby, because baby reads mom. Like, who is this? I was going to say, who is this enjoyable for? And the answer is him. Like, he actually sounds like he is enjoying torturing her. And that is sickening, because there is no other reason that you set off alarms when
Starting point is 00:35:02 someone is sleep deprived, except for torture. I'm actually pretty sure they've used that as a form of torture. That's what I'm saying, it's purposeful. Waterboarding, sleep deprivation, it's a form of torture. And I feel like crazy people like that hide it under the guise of, oh, we can always fall back and say,
Starting point is 00:35:20 oh, it's a prank, it's a prank. 100%. Stop overreacting, it's a prank. And then they get everyone else on their side, like their friends and shit and say, Oh, it's a prank. It's a prank. Stop overreacting. It's a prank. And then they get everyone else on their side, like their friends and shit and say, can you believe how she reacted to this prank I pulled? I mean, for him to go tell his coworkers, he doesn't see the seriousness of it. He does think it's a joke and he's making his wife, the mother of his child, the butt of the joke. How dumb do you have to be to think
Starting point is 00:35:48 that you're actually still pranking? I don't get it. I really don't get it. It's disgusting. I mean, legally what happens if you feed someone shit? Yeah. I honestly- What category does that go into? Psychopath? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Like is that any different than putting like a Tide Pod in someone's meal? It feels like poison. Like it's giving slug mixed in. Like it's just, I can't even comprehend. It's unconsciousable for me because it's, it's just such a despicable behavior. And this is supposed to be someone you love.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Dude. OP's account has been suspended. I can't look at any other comments, but I am seeing that the top comment is from OP, but I wanna see if there's any other comments like before. Well, okay, I think I know what the top comment says then if it's the top. What is it?
Starting point is 00:36:54 I'm out. So let me read one of the comments that was there before OP's. These aren't pranks, these are abuse. And giving your guests breast milk, that's the other thing we kind of forgot about is that he- Well, I didn't forget. I just, there's only so much I could cover in the time.
Starting point is 00:37:11 There, well, yeah, it slipped me. To feed someone bodily fluids unknowingly without their consent is so, so wrong. Brings up a number of stories that we've read. We willingly tried breast milk. Have we talked about that on an episode yet? I don't know. We've talked about it at shows.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Sorry, it feels very familiar. Yeah, we did try breast milk from a listener in Arizona. We were given the option. Yes. We could have thrown it in the trash. We were given the option. Yes. We could have thrown it in the trash. Yeah, we could have. But we didn't. We didn't.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Tasted like cinnamon toast crunch milk. Almond milk with cinnamon. Miss ma'am, I don't know what you're eating, but your breast milk was pretty good. Thank you. Everyone's screaming in their cars right now. Don't bring me any more breast milk at live shows though. I think that was a one and done, unless I have an ear infection, then I'm willing to drop it in my ear. Or unless it's the same person.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I'm just so confused why it was so cinnamony. I'm like, I'm wondering if it was a prank and it was actually like cinnamon almond milk because it just it was delightful. Hmm. You know, um, guess we'll find out one day But someone goes what on earth made him think that would be okay and shit on toast What the actual fuck that is not okay ever I'd be divorcing him if I were you that is beyond messed up and then him telling his co-workers God if I had a co-worker say they did that to their wife I'd be absolutely disgusted and mortified for their wife. Right, well, and the biggest thing is,
Starting point is 00:38:50 it's crazy we've gotten this far too. We've gotten this far where it keeps getting worse. The pranks are getting worse. Next he's gonna kill you. I don't know, just kidding. But- It feels like that though, because they are having massive fights after all of these pranks. And then he does something worse the very next day. Well, the cops show up and he's like, it's a prank. It was just a prank. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:16 It's so bad. But the thing for me is yes, the pranks are horrible and I just can't even process. It's the unrelenting, not backing down. There's no remorse. There's no, you know what, you're right. I've taken it too far. At any stage, there's never been that once. And that, obviously coupled with the pranks because we can't get those out.
Starting point is 00:39:43 But it's the fact that he can't even see it. He can't even listen to you and as you communicate and say, this isn't cool, this isn't right. And keeps doubling down and saying, well, all my friends think it's funny. Like you're never going to get it ever. So let's get out now. So after scrolling down a little bit, there's actually another comment from OP. It's hard to tell which came first because it just says two years old,
Starting point is 00:40:14 but I do think this came before the top comment. So I actually had a pretty okay sleep last night. Baby slept for two four hour chunks after having a bottle of formula overnight, which is the most I have slept in a long time My husband is now giving me the silent treatment and acting annoyed at me Which I've come to realize is what he has done if things don't go his way He will sulk about until I give in I've had a lot of time to read the replies and really look back on a lot
Starting point is 00:40:41 Of things and realize that he uses pranks and jokes as a way to be horrible to people and gain attention. His parents think it's funny and that he is a hilarious goofball when in reality he isn't. The parents? I look back and so many have been so awful and mean. Even in 2018, he gave a friend a marijuana gummy before a flight from San Francisco to Australia, and his friend had a panic attack in the bathroom on the plane, and he still laughs about it and thinks it is one of the greatest tricks. He has accidentally let my pet budgie out that I had prior
Starting point is 00:41:18 to when we met, but now I look back at it, it was most certainly on purpose as he doesn't like animals and has always said birds were dirty. What I really noticed looking back is not just the pranks, but he has zero care if someone is worried or upset about a trick. It in fact eggs him on more and more and he goes to great lengths to trick people into a state of upset. Then we'll laugh and laugh and brag about it, which just leads me to think he has no empathy for another human being. Serial killer.
Starting point is 00:41:50 When I got back from the hospital, he had me convinced our new TV in the bedroom had been dropped and broken with a cracked fake screen, and I told him, I'm too tired for jokes, so it should have been enough for it to stop. The messing around with my sleep was the start of me losing my mind and raging out at him. Ultimately, I have lost trust in him. Even if he says no pranks again, I will not believe him as he has said that before, then planned an elaborate, month-long prank. I don't want him pranking my baby. He constantly tags me in pranks on Facebook involving kids, and he will 100% do it. Some I've said are not cool, but he just says it's character building. He has no respect in reality.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And even the stupid things he does, like leaving his own poop in the toilet for me to find, or waking the baby, or wetting the car seat before I hop in are just blatant displays of disrespect. My sister is on her way to pick me up and I'm going to have a week away and most likely get legal advice regarding separation. More than a week. Forever. Forever. Nobody needs this in their life. Like that's slow mo during the Sandlot movie. Forever. Nobody needs this in their life. Like that's slow-mo during the Sandlot movie.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Forever. Fuck him. Nobody needs this. There is, so the top comment, that was a comment that was way down. There is the top comment though. I thought that was the top comment. No. That was damn good. Yeah, there's a top comment though from OP.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I'm trying very hard to respond to everyone. As I read this, I'm so goddamn angry. I'm actually realizing this man has basically used pranks to play games with me and humiliate me, and his jokes are an excuse to belittle me. It's flooding so bad here in Australia, so I'm not going anywhere tonight. I'm going to my sister's tomorrow. I don't want to divorce him. And maybe what some of you have said is right, and that this is his way of coping, but it isn't right. And the way he uses the pranks to make my life miserable needs to stop.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Thank you so much for replying. I don't feel like I'm a dramatic person now. And I've realized I've probably letting more slide than I should. There's no other comments from OP. That's fine. I'm over this guy. Despicable.
Starting point is 00:44:08 This is one of the biggest red flags I've ever seen. That is, he is a red flag. That's the correct way to use that. Right there. Right there. Imagine that. Good job. Bam.
Starting point is 00:44:23 That's just fucking crazy. I think it'd be fun to have a little red flag. We should get some to wave around. And as you read. A couple people brought them to the show in Irvine. They actually gave them to me after. Where are they? In a box at the studio.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I need to use my drum. Oh my gosh, yeah. Our friend that came to multiple shows got Justin a drum to do a drum roll. We've made so many good friends on tour. Next time, next time on mine, you gotta help me remember that. Yeah, well, the drum is at the studio,
Starting point is 00:44:57 so we'll pull it out. If you ever think you have a bad, just go read that one. If you're ever mad at me for something else, just go read that story. I don't get mad at you very often. You know what I mean though? Yeah. If you ever get upset with me over something small, just read that one. Really puts life into perspective for you.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Everyone listening is like, well, I guess my husband not washing his dish or leaving his band-aid wrappers out on the counter wasn't that big of a deal. Didn't think you were gonna say dish. Dish? What do you think I was gonna say? No other people thought it too. Leaving his fish?
Starting point is 00:45:40 D- Oh. Okay, this next one. Another one of this week's partners is HelloFresh. Now that we're back from tour, eating healthy has been one of our main priorities. The problem, I hate grocery shopping, I hate meal planning, I hate meal prepping. It's just a lot. But with HelloFresh, it makes eating healthy using fresh real ingredients so easy. With HelloFresh, you get farm fresh, pre-portioned ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered straight to your doorstep.
Starting point is 00:46:12 So you can skip those annoying trips to the grocery store, forgetting ingredients, all of that out the window with HelloFresh and it's pretty affordable. Justin and I made an amazing ground chicken with feta cucumber tomato on lettuce cups the other night. So, so good. HelloFresh has actually piqued my interest a little bit in cooking. It's made me realize I can cook. So if you have any little chefs in the kitchen with you, this could be a great way to get the whole family involved in the least stressful way possible, and you're eating so good. Flavorful, tasty, filling. There's so many
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Starting point is 00:47:15 Okay, this next one is six days old coming from r slash true off my chest titled showing up Showing Up to a Funeral in Basketball Shorts. I'm so disappointed in my partner of 12 years. Yes, we've been dating for 12 years. No kids, not married. All my choice, and it's all fine-ish. We've been having problems since COVID in 2020, and things just kept getting swept under the rugs.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Now in present day 2024, my dad just passed away. My partner shows up to the funeral 15 minutes before it ends and comes in wearing basketball shorts. Looking like Adam fucking Sandler. I was so embarrassed and angry. I told him to wear something nice and even offered to go shopping together last week. I had to buy a dress because everything in my closet is too inappropriate. And it's the last time I will ever see my dad. So I want to be respectful and dress nice.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I just wanted him to wear pants and a well-fitted shirt. It doesn't have to be a full-on suit and tie. He said he ran out of time to get ready. So he tried his best to look for clean clothes. I swear, he didn't even bother to shower, even though he said he did. He claims my dad was more of a father figure to him than his own dad ever was. So why couldn't he put more effort into a respectful outfit and show up on time. Literally everyone else stayed from beginning to end. Some family members even showed up before us. This is it. I'm completely done and over
Starting point is 00:48:53 him. I just want to be left alone now. Problem solved. Is there something worse than a red flag? Okay. This, all right. We may have just gotten to telepathic level with each other. I know we've thought we've been there, but we are fully, it's just been too many times lately. We are there. It's a lot of times. It's like every day. I was thinking that the whole time you're reading, I was going to let you say something
Starting point is 00:49:20 and then I was going to say that. Please. Exactly. Please, please, please comment on the YouTube, on the Instagram, wherever you engage. What is something that is worse than a red flag? Like what the fuck is this? I think he is used toilet paper.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I feel like dog diarrhea on wet grass. I mean, that's natural, you know? That's just like, you know. I'm gonna let you guys comment. This is really sad. I mean, I can't imagine they've been together for 12 years. Why did they not show up together? This is a together kind of event.
Starting point is 00:49:58 This is OP's dad. Why are you not with them at all times right now? Well, that's what I'm saying. This is, I just can't even imagine that loss, that sadness. No matter if you're that close or not, it is still a big loss because there's a lot of emotions that can go into that no matter the relationship. And so to not have your partner of 12 years get ready with you, drive you, can I get you anything? Can we do anything?
Starting point is 00:50:26 Like what do you need? That is fucking baffling. And then for the fact that OP says, he claims my dad was more of a father figure to him than his own dad ever was. How is he not showing up? Even without that context, be there for your quote unquote partner, which this person is not your partner.
Starting point is 00:50:48 This, there's no partner at all. There's no partnership here. Whatever definition is, that doesn't exist here. This is clearly an afterthought, doesn't really care about your emotions or your wants or your needs. You, in such sad, terrible times, even offered to go shopping with them to help make this easier. It's crazy. When you didn't even need to do that. Something within you was concerned, I feel feel that this kind of thing would happen,
Starting point is 00:51:29 which is why you thought maybe I'll offer to go shopping so that this whole thing as hard as it already is, isn't harder for me because of something that you do. I, they were trying to prevent that. And so- Like so accommodating during the worst time. And it just gets worse based on another post that's on OP's account. It just, where are we finding these people?
Starting point is 00:52:00 They're out there. Oh, I know they're out there. I mean, think about like, I think a lot of us listening can think about like an ex we've dated that you just were put through a lot of shitty stuff with and like they did. And you stay with these people because when the times are good, they're really good.
Starting point is 00:52:20 But then you have low points like this and it's hard. It's so- This is too's hard. It's so- This is too low though. It's so hard. This is too low. Well, here's where it gets worse. Okay, so as we said, this post was six days old. OP has another post on their account from a month ago
Starting point is 00:52:36 and it's on true off my chest as well, titled, I can't accept the fact that my father is dying and no one cares. And it is very, very sad and emotional. Like I, I honestly, I can't read it or I will ball my fucking eyes out and we gotta get through the rest of this episode. But essentially no one in the family is affected by this.
Starting point is 00:52:57 It seems like I'm the only one affected by this. My brothers moved out and haven't spoken to my father in years. They do not care. They do not even care about our mom. They barely text her comforting phrases or anything. My mom is a little sad, but she's accepted it. She went through the same thing with her dad 25 years ago.
Starting point is 00:53:14 So she said this is nothing new to her. I'm taking it a lot harder than I expected. I thought I'd grieve and get over it, but I'm actually really depressed. I can't sleep. I'm losing weight. My father was in remission for cancer and it came back aggressively three months later. My father is now at the hospital and they've discontinued all treatments. I'm not married yet and I need him to walk me
Starting point is 00:53:36 down the aisle. I need him to see me get married, have children, and watch his grandchildren grow. He was teaching me how to make traditional food from our culture, and we were supposed to have a friendly competition. I'm still learning how to make it, and now I will never get to taste his cooking ever again." So to hear this emotional, I mean, it just goes on. There's so many things we've yet to see or experience. He's never even seen the Statue of Liberty
Starting point is 00:54:03 and has been talking about going once he's better. He talked about going to Alaska, to England, and visit the palace and different places in Asia. So many unfulfilled wishes. To hear this and for their partner to not show up. Are you fucking kidding me? I mean, it's, that's even to show up is the bare minimum.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Last 15 minutes in a fucking Adam Sandler outfit. I love Adam Sandler so much. I love him, but his attire is not funeral appropriate. Adam Sandler would never fucking do that at a funeral. No. Yeah. I mean, it, it's times like that that really show you who someone is. And when they show you, take it seriously.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah. I think this is like another thing too, where OP does say here, we've been dating for 12 years, no kids, not married, all my choice. And it's fine-ish. The other posts though saying, I'm not married yet. I don't have kids. My dad needs to see all of that. That makes me feel like OP is actually not necessarily fine with it. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:31 But has been sacrificing what they truly want for this other person to make it work. Well, and to point out all my choice feels almost like you've been convincing yourself that it is that or manipulated to actually start to believe that that's what you want. You know what I mean? Yeah, you do. When someone tells you something so many times and you start to think, it's the same as the other stories we read.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Where the lady's like, am I overreacting to the pranks? No, you're not. But it's crazy that the partner husband was able to convince you that heavily that you were even asking that. That's what's so sad. And that's what's scary. Cause you get gaslit. You like just get like, it almost feels like, cause I've been in a relationship like that
Starting point is 00:56:21 where like the bar was so low and they would disappear every weekend. And then it was like, well, we talked so much during the week. You get like told this stuff that you, you like start to convince yourself like, yeah, yeah, he's right. Like, this is okay. Like, it's not that bad. Like I've had worse ex-boyfriends, like, and I love him. It's so good when we're together. Like when you just, you get almost brainwashed. And it's so easy. It's so easy to fall into that. But I think OP sharing this one, like comment some support. I'll be sure to link this in the description of the YouTube.
Starting point is 00:56:58 But I mean, I think this is a good example of why it is not worth it in life to sacrifice what you really want, to put up with bullshit and savor the day, savor time with family and friends. I mean, life is fucking short and it's too short to be stuck with walking ass red flags. Worse than red flags. What is worse than a red flag, you guys? I need to know.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Top comment on this one is quoting OP, all I wanted was for him to wear pants. Next comment down, what a bar to not be able to achieve. The bar is in literal hell. I have many words I'm keeping to myself. You can pop off. I want to hear it. I don't want to have to have you select that one category on YouTube because there's too many swears.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah. He's a fucking piece of shit who deserves to get hit by a horse. Hit by a horse? I haven't heard that one in a while. Just like a little bonk by a horse, not dead, just hurt. Like when the horses take their head. Oh, it hurts so bad. Okay, moving along.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Another one of this week's partners is Quince. Summer is here and when it comes to clothes, that can stress a lot of us out. You're hot, you have to wear a lot less layers. And for me, I don't have a lot of pieces in my closet that make me feel good and comfortable in what I'm wearing during summer. But that's where Quince is gonna come in. Quince is gonna help with a wardrobe refresh
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Starting point is 00:59:38 with a daycare mom sending messages to my husband at all hours? My one year old son has a playmate in daycare. The mom and dad of the other child have scheduled play dates with us, and we have gone and hung out with them and their kids. The first contact is my husband, as he and the other mom chit chat at drop-off.
Starting point is 00:59:57 That is fine with me. This mom and I also chat at times on Messenger, but she also sends private messages to my husband. What I have noticed is she sends a lot of messages throughout the day about the kids and play dates and other things like TV shows, etc. She will also send messages pretty late at night, sometimes 11.30pm or later. We just met these parents a few weeks ago and I told my husband that I think it's disrespectful for her to send him messages that late. He doesn't understand the issue and
Starting point is 01:00:33 he assumes we are all quote friends so what's the difference? I told him that this is not an issue of jealousy but rather respect. I don't and would not message this woman's husband privately because I don't need to and it looks bad. I trust my husband and I know he's got good intentions, but I feel like this is how things accidentally get out of hand. And considering I don't know this couple well, I'm not cool with these late private messages or her messaging him one-on-one at all just yet. I didn't tell him to stop messaging or say anything to her, but I suggested that we should just have a group chat
Starting point is 01:01:14 rather than these private messages because there won't be any questions. Am I wrong? No, I think, OP, very well-spoken. Very. That was written like an author. Very good. Oh, I think OP, very well-spoken. Very. That was written like an author. Very good.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I was distracted from the story with how well it was written. That just impressive. And your calm, cool, collected, ultra-mature, everything to do with how you wrote this and how you're reacting to this happening, she is doing it in the best way possible.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And you know, you're not overreacting. You clearly have a very strong foundation of trust and I hope it doesn't lead to bad places. But as for right now, this is communication 101, at least on your side. This is, you know, you get a gold star. Yeah. I just-
Starting point is 01:02:12 You get a gold star. There's no, there is no reason to be messaging at that time. 11.30 messaging someone else's husband? Right. What are you talking about? Well, and if you flip the script, of course he would not be okay with it.
Starting point is 01:02:25 No. Oh, you're texting some guy at 1130. But do you think she, that other wife would be okay with someone else texting her husband? Like No, neither of them. Like it's It's just weird. Well, and it's classic just dude to be like, Oh, I don't see the issue.
Starting point is 01:02:44 We're just talking about blah, blah, blah. And it doesn't don't see the issue. We're just talking about bowl ball. And it's, it doesn't matter what hour it is. We're all friends. Like shut up. If we're all friends, do the group chat and just be quiet. There we go. Group chat, easy fix. Smart one too.
Starting point is 01:02:57 There's no blurred lines. Well, and it's a smart play by her because it really, the way he reacts to that, you know, is telling. Yeah, it's very telling. It's telling. I think there's a good point to be made too. Like this isn't about jealousy. It's not about control.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Like I think when OP says it's about respect, I do think that is very fair and justified. Like you guys have your relationship. This woman has her relationship with her husband. Even like some of my girlfriends, like Alejandra, I know she gets up really early for work. Like I wouldn't even send her a message right now, like being so late, like it's 11.30. I wouldn't text her right now. I'd wait until tomorrow morning.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Or like I know she's on silent and so then I might send it but like or but you could It's just different. It's different if I like all of a sudden like I'm sitting over here and you're like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm just texting Alejandra. You'd be like, oh, what do you why? Because what reason what good reason would there be for that? I don't know. Am I just checking in? Hey, how are you? I was thinking about you. Like-
Starting point is 01:04:08 Well, that's so, I know. And like, even if they are friends talking about TV shows, like it just feels inappropriate past a certain point. And it's like, you're clearly not talking about the kids. The kids are asleep. You're not planning your next play date. And that's the foundation of your relationship together is the kids.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Well, and like, I know like everyone has their own opinions on, can people of opposite sexes or you know, whatever be friends? And I do find it kind of concerning or a bit red flaggish that she's reaching out to the husband to develop this close relationship versus the wife. It's one of those people that's like, oh yeah, I just don't have a lot of girlfriends. I've never really gotten along with other women. I'm just one of the guys. It's just one of those. It's like that is kind of like your Spidey senses kind of go off for people like that.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And then if it's truly a couple thing and you're making friends with another couple and your kids, why not have a group chat? Why are you individually messaging him? It's just weird. Yeah. I can't think of a good reason to do that. And I'm really, really hoping in a comment or an update, I can get
Starting point is 01:05:29 some sense of how you responded to it. So top comment, I think the group text is a good idea. I'd make one with everyone involved and send a message like, quote, from now on, I think it would be easier for all of us if we just text in this group chat, then we can all be kept up to date on all of the info and everything. Maybe we should also set hours we don't want to interrupt family time or disturb someone trying to sleep from now on. Think that last bit. I don't know if you need to take it there.
Starting point is 01:05:57 The last sentence, the last sentence I'd maybe hold off on. Next comment down or better yet, have him do that. Kind, respectful, appropriate, but also clear it's coming from him in case there's anything inappropriate intent. Tiga's on that. You don't think so? No. Well, maybe if it's like an ultimatum. So someone goes, why? Is her husband not allowed to have friends of the opposite sex?
Starting point is 01:06:28 This post and these comments, woo! He is a grown man and knows his boundaries. If he can't knock this back, please understand that he is neutral if not enjoying the attention. My husband, nor I, ever had to step in and infringe on either's ability to make friends because we trusted each other to do the right thing. Sounds like OP has major trust issues that needs addressing. Jealousy is a valid emotion,
Starting point is 01:06:54 but trying to control other people because of it is not ethical. Rain can batter against a window, but unless that window is open, it kind of doesn't matter and stops after a while. Unless that window is open, it kind of doesn't matter and stops after a while. What? Where'd you come up with that one? That's what this person said.
Starting point is 01:07:12 That's what I mean. Where'd they come up with that? That's one that I've never heard. Rain-battered window. But I kind of, I understand it. Well, I get their perspective. I get where they're coming from. But at the same-
Starting point is 01:07:24 But the rain thing threw me off. At the same time, like, there's also just certain level of respect. And if it's not understood, like, I think OP should go start texting her husband. Well, and here's the thing. Fuck it. You can have friends. You can have so many friends. Make friends.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Text him at 12. We live in a place that has just unwritten societal norms. There just are. And yeah, they get challenged from time to time. They get changed. They evolve over it just feels wrong. It would feel wrong like Alejandra or any of your friends or I guess if it's some random other person that's not that great either. But just to be texting at that hour, it generally, it's for pleasure. It's not gonna be usually work-related. It's for pleasure. I think not gonna be usually work related. It's for pleasure.
Starting point is 01:08:26 I think that's the best way to put it. It could be work related in my world or your world, I guess too. It could be. Yeah, last minute panic. As we work 24 seven, but we do. It just feels, it would just feel wrong. Well, an OP says,
Starting point is 01:08:41 my husband and I both have friends of the opposite sex. That is not my issue. It's the late night texting that is an issue for me. It's inappropriate. I understand that they get along and can be friends, but for many, the late hour texting is a bit much. I am by no means a jealous person, but her behavior raises alarm bells for me. I am giving her the benefit of the doubt and just minding my own business, but I don't know this woman very well, nor do I know her husband well. It's literally
Starting point is 01:09:09 been a few weeks. The whole point was to have play dates for the kids, which to me is a little ridiculous at such a young age. Plus, they are in daycare. They get plenty of socialization. So if this is a kid's play date, then why are you texting my husband after 11.30? It's just general respect. It would be one thing if I knew her and her husband well, but I don't. It, to me, is odd behavior for a grown person. We all hang out while the kids play, chat, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:09:36 When we get home, she immediately texts my husband. Like, for what? We all just hung out and talked and shared stories. Just makes me wonder if she's got motives. Like for what? We all just hung out and talked and shared stories. Just makes me wonder if she's got motives. Yeah. I mean, let's frame it like this, right? I have some girl that's a friend.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Hey babe, going to lunch with blah, blah, blah to catch up. Cool. Cool. How about this? Right now it's about 11.40. Hey babe, I'm gonna run over and hang out with Bulba for a little bit. Why?
Starting point is 01:10:14 It's 11.40. I mean, do we not all feel that? That's weird. I mean, I know there's people that don't. They're like, yeah, you know, my trust is rock solid. And you know, if you're gonna cheat on me, you're gonna cheat. If something's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. I can't stop you.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah. But it just doesn't feel right. There's appropriate times for things. I completely, I'm catching your drift. I completely agree. Yeah. Couple more comments from OP. Someone made something that like her husband is an idiot for not noticing the signs and
Starting point is 01:10:48 OP was like, that's rude. He's actually very smart, but I think a lot of men have a hard time seeing things like this. He is naive in some aspects. He doesn't hide things from me and also he works from home. So any new friends, he is very gung ho. I'm not trying to rain on his parade, but she really is out of line texting that late and privately. And there's just a couple other
Starting point is 01:11:13 comments too that are like, I'm trying to shut it down early. It's not about being smart or dumb. It's about being human and vulnerable. You can't let other people get that close because that's how affairs happen. It's usually by accident. It's natural to get close to someone once you get to know them, but you can't let them get closer than you to your significant other. See, but that's also not totally correct
Starting point is 01:11:37 because if you have to go around policing your partner the rest of your life and trying to control them so that they don't end up having an affair. People are gonna cheat if they wanna cheat. Right. And the other thing is too, it really doesn't matter what any of us think at all. If this is her boundary of what she's comfortable with
Starting point is 01:12:03 or not comfortable with, then that's her boundary to set. Whether that applies to everyone else, everyone commenting and listening, we all have our own ways we want to operate and deal with that situation. Here's what she's uncomfortable with. I think it's a fair boundary to set. And that's it. No one else, nothing else matters.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Yeah, well, this last comment I'll read, I do find really interesting because everyone does handle their own relationship, like you said, their own ways. That is to each their own truly. And OP is mentioning here like, by my husband's own admission, he's not the baby person. And so OP is, I
Starting point is 01:12:49 would say, describing themselves here as the primary parent by default because my husband works quite a bit and has to travel more than is required at my job. So then to say, he can set up all the play dates he would like, but do the play dates need to be planned at midnight? And why does the planning involve asking what you watch on Netflix, etc.? That to me sounds like this other person, this other woman who's texting OP's husband is not being very emotionally fulfilled by her partnership and is trying to latch on another person and like
Starting point is 01:13:30 Hey, what are you watching? What are you chatting about? Or maybe maybe she doesn't have a lot of friends but you should be seeking out them as a couple and Not just the husband. That's where it's like that's the respect thing, but it's just like what are your intentions? What are your intentions? Why not seek out both of them? Why are you just pursuing the husband? Do you see something you like? What's happening? Why? Where's the why? What are you doing right now?
Starting point is 01:13:56 What are you watching? What are you wearing? Ooh. What are you not wearing? Ooh. Really can take a turn quick. really can take a turn quick. Really can take a turn quick. Wanna come over?
Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah, do you feel like this other woman is a red flag? Little bit of a red flag? Yeah, but really it's how your husband responds to this whole thing and it's your boundary to set and it's between you guys. She's an external deal. I mean, if that's really what it takes to lure him away and that's it, then wasn't meant to be.
Starting point is 01:14:34 So I wouldn't, I think that's why I respected her approach so much as I'm not gonna come rip your phone out of your hands and demand to know everything you're texting. And I just think it's disrespectful. And you know, she seems very confident, very independent to the point where she, I think could be that person that understands the fact that if he does anything and wasn't because of me, and what am I gonna do?
Starting point is 01:15:08 Lock him in a cell? So it, yeah. No, okay, moving along. Okay, this next one is 10 hours old, coming from AITAH. It is titled, Am I the asshole for for Being Upset About My Wife, Forcing Me to Compete With the Dogs for Food?
Starting point is 01:15:30 I meal prep on Sundays so that I have food for a hot lunch during the week. I'll make a thing of turkey bacon, hard boiled eggs, sauces of various types such as pesto, and I will grill chicken breasts. I'll then use these prepped ingredients to make wraps with various salads and veggies throughout the week, or we'll eat alongside a salad.
Starting point is 01:15:51 My wife and I have two dogs. They get a combination of pre-packaged foods and stuff we cook at home. We're careful with the foods we prep for them, and have gotten into the habit of avoiding things that the dogs can't eat. When I prep my lunches, I make sure to communicate this to my wife.
Starting point is 01:16:07 However, I always wind up in a situation where I have nothing to eat for my Thursday lunches. Because I don't have time for breakfast, this means that I go hungry from dinner on Wednesday until Thursday night, and then I have to spend Thursday evenings prepping lunch on Friday again. I've tried making more. No matter how much I make, I always will wind up in this situation. I run out of food. I've asked my wife to not give the dogs the food I make for my lunches.
Starting point is 01:16:38 She has agreed, but then will do it for various reasons. Quote, I needed something to give them quickly. Quote, I didn't have time to make them something else. Quote, it was just this one time. This week, I made kielbasa. On Sunday with braised cabbage, I made enough for five lunches. I ate it for lunch yesterday. Two hours ago, I went into the fridge to eat between meetings and there was only a single wedge of cabbage left. Everything else was gone. So I went to my wife asking about it.
Starting point is 01:17:15 It all went to the dogs. All of it. My entire week's worth of lunches. And because it's Tuesday, I work later and I won't have the opportunity to eat until sometime after 8 p.m. or 26.5 hours after finishing my last meal. My wife says she doesn't see the big deal and that I'm being an asshole for not wanting to share my lunches with the dogs. I think she's being unreasonable. Am I the asshole? No.
Starting point is 01:17:46 I want to see a picture of these dogs. I'm like really curious. These dogs be eating that much? Dude, come on. This is pretty wild. And also, could we like door dash something instead of starving all day? I know, I'm wondering like-
Starting point is 01:18:07 If we can afford to cook chef crafted meals for our dogs every day, maybe we could door dash. I get that's not the point. The point is that you cooked food for a purpose and don't have it when you want it. That's the point, I get that. But when you end up in a situation of desperation, order something, come on, order something.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Or honestly, if the wife is at home, she needs to make it right and make him something. I also don't understand how you took four meals, four human portioned meals and just gave them to the dogs. I wanna see what the dogs are doing. How many dogs do they have? When I hear dogs, I just think two. Same.
Starting point is 01:18:56 But like, this is giving a full pack. This is giving like 10 dogs. And if it's two, they're- Also, when you know like, oh, I had to give them something really quick. I didn't have anything. Your dogs are gonna be just fine with kibble. Your husband is not.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Your husband can't eat kibble. So maybe give the dogs an extra scoop of kibble until you're more adequately prepared. They can't eat that. That's weird. I think it's a red flag that she doesn't really respect him. And after multiple conversations, she continues to still give these dogs the food that he is prepping and meal prepping is not an easy task. Meal prepping takes a lot of time, consideration, work. When we would meal prep, we used to meal prep quite a bit. It would take like four hours on a Sunday.
Starting point is 01:19:46 It took so much work. It is definitely a task. Maybe we just weren't doing it right. I know some people do it in a crock pot and that's a hack. Well, you get in the zone. I mean, we were changing up the meals. We were really just trying to figure out if we could make that work.
Starting point is 01:20:01 It was a lot. And so I would be extremely frustrated and really annoyed by my partner's lack of respect for me. You'd get annoyed if you had gotten food and it was hanging in the kitchen. Don't touch my food. And then at night, and then I was like, ha, I threw it out for the horses.
Starting point is 01:20:17 You'd be like, Go get me another one. You know what I'm gonna start doing? Give me another one. I'm gonna start making meals that have a bunch of grapes. I'm gonna pour chocolate all over my meals. I'm gonna make it so that shit can't be eaten by the dogs. There you go.
Starting point is 01:20:34 That's a good strategy. You know, have a little chicken, a little drizzle of chocolate over the whole thing. Kind of gross. Kind of gross. Those don't go together. You might've lost people there. Well, you see what I'm trying to do. Let's look up all the things that dogs can eat and let's fully meal prep that and have it
Starting point is 01:20:55 integrated. But I don't know what you do. This is just, I think I'd get maddening. I think I'd get another, if, if OP can afford it, I would literally get a mini fridge or a different fridge and get one that has a lock on it. But it's just, to have to go there in your relationship, you shouldn't have to. Sucks. But I go crazy when people eat my leftovers.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Like I would have to do that. I would have to. I mean, so we're just gonna live like that forever. I mean, do you think it's divorce worthy to get divorced over the food? I don't know, but honestly, the title's not far off. You are kind of competing with the dogs for food. You're an equal.
Starting point is 01:21:38 The dogs are actually getting fed more. Yeah, you're less for that. And you're the one that had to cook for the dogs. So you're kind of the dog's you. And you're the one that had to cook for the dogs. So you're kind of the dog's servant. And so I don't know if I'm getting a fridge with a lock. What I do know is I'm not living like that the rest of my life.
Starting point is 01:21:58 No, you can't. We either set the record straight and it changes or I'm gonna go to my own house, I'll get my own, my own bachelor pad, big ass fridge, I'm gonna cook all sorts of food and guess what? It's all gonna be there. I ain't, I'm having lunch on every Thursday, every Thursday. Oh man, so OP does respond to a comment.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Okay. Why don't you feed your dogs, dog food? I don't think it's okay to feed dogs bacon and eggs and kielbasa, that's super unhealthy. Both you and your wife are assholes for mistreating your dogs. OP responds, we do feed them dog food, but we supplement it with homemade foods
Starting point is 01:22:42 on a diet plan discussed with our vets. I'm not sure where you got the idea that feeding them eggs, bacon, turkey, kielbasa isn't okay. Turkey, bacon, and hard-boiled eggs are perfectly fine for dogs, as is grilled chicken. Kielbasa is fine infrequently. We tend to make a lot of what we give our dogs because of quality control concerns with prepackaged dog foods. Jerky bought in a bag at a pet store make a lot of what we give our dogs because of quality control concerns with prepackaged dog foods. Jerky bought in a bag at a pet store has a lot in it that we usually don't necessarily want the dogs to eat. However, I can produce beef and chicken jerky with no added ingredients at a much lower
Starting point is 01:23:15 price point than what we can buy. Instead of buying mystery sausage and kielbasa at a grocery store, I make my own and control what goes in it to ensure things that are not dog safe don't get put in there, such as garlic and onion. Those don't get included. We started doing this years ago with a dog we had who had severe allergies, respiratory issues, skin allergies. By eliminating prepackaged food from his diet, most of his allergy issues disappeared. That's fine, but you clearly don't have the time.
Starting point is 01:23:47 We're burning others. No, we're burning ourselves to keep others warm. Well, I just think you really need to sit down. And like, I mean, this seems a little aggressive for me personally. Like I don't think grilled chicken is cheap and- It's not even And it's like, it's just, this is a lot. It's not the cost. I love dogs.
Starting point is 01:24:11 I love my dogs. I'm not seeing a cost issue. I get that we're pointing out the fact that it's more efficient. It's more cost efficient. The problem is you're severely lacking time. If you can't find a way, if that meal's not in your fridge, to eat from the moment, from the night before
Starting point is 01:24:31 until the night after, we have other problems to solve here first. But the problem is the wife. The problem is the wife disrespecting him. He's got his shit down. That's what I'm saying though. It's her level of disrespect or maybe both of their unpreparedness.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Why don't they cook all the meals for the dogs and cook their meals and then they all have everything. There's something that could be done for sure. Because why is their food being taken, well his, to feed the dogs when they eat their own food and supplement with people food. Why don't we make all the people food that we wanna give to the dogs and then have our portions? And it's all separate out, dog pile.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Do you think the dogs are actually eating this food? Do you think the wife is just eating it and lying and saying she gave all of it to the dogs. Like, how did she give four packages to the dogs? Don't you think that dogs would get sick? She's got her own meals. She's gotta get through her own meals. And then that?
Starting point is 01:25:33 I don't know if she has meals. It sounds like he's just meal prepping for himself. So I'm wondering- I thought we were meal prepping together. I feel like it's giving he's just meal prepping for his work lunches. I'm wondering if she's actually eating some of this food. Time for a hidden camera.
Starting point is 01:25:53 I'd be so curious because she's not saying she's eating any of it, because I feel like it would be less of an issue where it was like, oh, sorry, honey, I just, I had one. And then, you know, I gave one of the dogs, but like, I give all four to the dogs. Like, this is really interesting. Stool sample.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Someone does say, bro, there's no way your dogs are eating like this without the worst gas and diarrhea. Your wife is eating the food full stop. And I'm so perplexed now. Is she eating the food? I don't know. Should we do a vote? Do we think the wife is eating the food? I don't know. Should we do a vote? Do we think the wife is eating the food guys?
Starting point is 01:26:29 Little vote? We need a camera planted. Little vote. But should you have to plant a camera? No, of course not. It's a joke, but I just want to know so bad. I mean, a camera in the kitchen wouldn't be the worst place. It's not the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Where's she going to eat it? They seem to both be home all the time. So. There's no other comments from OP providing further insight. I be popping in randomly. Very curious. If I'm working out there and oh, it's my lunchtime, but I'm going to go in an hour earlier.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I pop in, look around the corner and you're just like. Something's up. I was just opening it for the dogs. Something's up. I was just opening it for the dogs. Something is up. That was my lunch for Thursday. I can't imagine like 26.5 hours of not eating. I've done it. Door dash.
Starting point is 01:27:18 But. Well, sorry, I'm promoting. No free promo. But I mean, there's other options. Like if you live in a walkable neighborhood, like take your lunch break, walk out, go grab something. If you don't live in a walkable neighborhood, pop in your car, run to a store quick.
Starting point is 01:27:36 I mean, unless you're in like rural countryside where it's 40 minutes to get to a nearby store, like then it's impossible, but. You shouldn't have to. You shouldn't have to. You shouldn't have to starve. But, well, I'm saying you shouldn't have to go get the food when you've already repaired, but just still eat, please. Eat my dude, eat my dude.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Okay, moving along. This next one is coming from our very own Too Hot Takes subreddit. Oh my goodness gracious. Bum, bum, bum, bum. Bow. is coming from our very own Too Hot Takes subreddit. Oh my goodness gracious. Bum, bum, bum, bum. Pow. Ooh, that's a new sound for you.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Do it one more time. Shorten to the point. I did earlier in the show too. I didn't notice, wow. So it is titled, I fell asleep in my roommate's bed because I was sick and my girlfriend broke up with me. My girlfriend, Celine, 20 female, and I, 21 male, have been dating for about seven months now, but I had feelings for her like three years beforehand. I have also been sharing
Starting point is 01:28:37 a flat with two other girls and one guy. A flat? One of the girls is Kaia and we're pretty good friends. As it just so happens, Celine's ex cheated on her with Kaia. Kaia hadn't known they were together at the time. So when I first brought Celine over to my place early into our relationship, she told me about what had happened. I realized then that things would be messy,
Starting point is 01:29:02 and I asked Celine if this was a deal breaker for her. But she said she wasn't sure, as she was sure that Kaia didn't realize she was facilitating cheating. The next day, Celine said she thought it over and she had no resentment towards Kaia, but was insecure about herself and felt uneasy that we lived in the same house. We both agreed to continue with the relationship and set our boundaries. One of them was that Kaia and I won't sleep over in each other's rooms anymore. We used to have movie nights on Fridays. Kaya's room was the only room with a TV in my flat, and I'd sometimes fall asleep
Starting point is 01:29:36 in her room during movie nights. Everything was platonic, and I told Celine about this. Let's move to the present time, where our relationship is like a fairy tale. Being with Celine is pretty awesome, but my exams are coming up soon and because I'm horribly underprepared, I needed to lock in. So I told Celine I would have to be a bit selfish
Starting point is 01:29:57 and wouldn't be able to spend time with her or have much communication until they're done. For the past three weeks, my entire life has been wake up, spend the entire day slash night at the library, then come home to sleep for like five to six hours, then go study again. It's a horrible routine and I feel like a zombie. But I have too much content to catch up on and not enough time. I must also admit that I've not been in contact with Celine all that often. We only talked twice on FaceTime and texted very little.
Starting point is 01:30:28 She tried initiating, but I had my phone shut off while studying and only replied when I left the library. On our second call, she said that she felt neglected and it was really starting to get to her and she wanted to spend some time together. I apologized, told her I missed her too and that she could come over to spend the night. But she came about an hour later than she was supposed to, and I had already fallen asleep by then. She still stayed the night, but the next morning I felt that she was upset that I had fallen asleep.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Then I got really sick three days ago. I threw up at the library and asked Kaia to come pick me up. My other roommates were out of town, and Celine would have taken too long to get there. When I got into bed, I threw up all over my sheets. At this point, my memory of what happened is foggy. I was very drowsy and not thinking straight. Rather than cleaning up and setting new sheets up, I texted Celine that I was very sick and I'd vomited all over my bed and asked if I could sleep over at her place.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I got no reply. So I went downstairs and slept on the couch. When I woke up the next morning, I was asleep on Kaya's bed, shirtless. I had no clue how I got there, but Celine came to check on me and walked in on me like this. This is when I woke up and Celine was very upset. She yelled, quote, How could you? And before I had a chance to say anything, she left.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Kaya told me that she saw me asleep on the couch and she offered to let me sleep on her bed instead. I have no recollection of this. I probably took my shirt off because I felt hot at Kaia told me that she saw me asleep on the couch and she offered to let me sleep on her bed instead. I have no recollection of this. I probably took my shirt off because I felt hot at some point during the night. She also said that she slept on the couch and we didn't share the bed. I've been trying to reach out to Celine, but she blocked my number, WhatsApp, Insta, everything. We have two mutual friends, but they both haven't replied to any of my texts. My fever died down yesterday night so I went to Celine's to clarify the situation but her roommate said she wasn't going to talk and made me leave. The whole situation just feels horrible. I love
Starting point is 01:32:38 the relationship that I have slash had with Celine and the fact that it's probably over makes me feel so distraught. I also reflected over how I've been recently and realized that a lot of blame does go on me. My exams aren't a reason to just completely shut myself out of a relationship and I need to work on being able to juggle life and studies at the same time. Other than her finding me asleep on Kaya's bed, she probably had a lot of animosity and upset amy- This is a really big fucking word, you guys. Amalgamating. Someone's been studying.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Studying's paying off. Had a lot of animosity and upset amalgamating over the last three weeks of me not being in contact. It's painful knowing I made a very unnecessary decision and had I put in more effort, it wouldn't have cost me a great person out of my life. What do I do? Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:36 What a roller coaster that was. Do we feel that this is a very accurate portrayal of events? All I know is that in times when I've had fevers that this is a very accurate portrayal of events. All I know is that in times when I've had fevers and sicknesses like that, you really go into zombie mode. And if you weren't already in zombie mode, fevers, those are some of the worst nights I've ever had. Just horrible dream, horrible dream.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Just, you can't discern reality from dreams. And it's just awful. Fevers are so terrible. Yeah. And if it's written truthfully, then nothing feels weird to me, except for this is not how you study people. This is why, this is how you get sick
Starting point is 01:34:29 and fail all your tests and don't remember anything because sleep is the most important part to studying. As a little side note, when you sleep, you actually cement the, yeah, the information in your mind. And so I would always study less, sleep more, and I would always be the first one walking out of my exams. And... You're gifted though. Whenever I would know, I would be the curve,
Starting point is 01:34:58 I was called the curve crusher. Flexing on us. The curve crusher. I gotta, you know, take some wins. Okay, we'll give you one. Regardless, don't do that to yourselves. It's ridiculous. Three weeks of studying all day
Starting point is 01:35:13 and then sleeping five hours. What are you, no. That's torture. That's just, it's just, you're shooting yourself in the foot. You might as well not even study anyway. When you're like crash loading so much information that you're gonna end up like almost like panicking
Starting point is 01:35:32 your head when you get there and you're like so overwhelmed with all the information you just crash course learned. Take it a little slower and then use your critical reasoning to pick the best answers. Yeah, it reminds me of- Fake it till you make it. It reminds me of John when Moira is out filming the crowing and he doesn't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:35:51 So he's just like working 24 seven. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Until you crash. But I don't know, the whole time I never, I didn't really feel anything vishy unless I'm just being tricked, but it seemed. Well, that's what I was wondering. Does anyone else get red flags with this? Because the only thing that kind of concerns me is like, yeah, you're studying nonstop, you're busy, you're crazy,
Starting point is 01:36:19 but you do have to sleep at some point. You do have to eat meals. And so to only text your girlfriend or FaceTime or whatever the heck they did a couple times in three weeks. I would literally take a break. I would literally though, I would think that this person is like trying to slow ghost me and like trying to break up with me. Like that doesn't feel healthy.
Starting point is 01:36:43 That's not fair to your partner. So I'm like, what else, like, were you genuinely just that panicked and studying that hard? Because that's a lot. I think so. Because I'm not really worried about the Maya thing. That's what I was saying. Kaya?
Starting point is 01:36:58 Yeah, Kaya. I'm not worried about the Kaya thing. I'm more worried about exactly what you're saying is why are we dropping everything? Like are you even eating? Are you, what? It's just not healthy. No, it doesn't make any sense. I got to lock in. Like I got all this- You can still have a girlfriend. Yes, as supportive, just- Go and get a meal, take a break,
Starting point is 01:37:26 have her sleep over, go sleep at her place. Like you can still do those things. Like, but like not every, I don't know, everyone's brains work differently. So, you know, maybe this is what works for them. Well, clearly didn't because that's why you got sick. Yeah, that's true. Actually, maybe it was food poisoning, but I don't know, fever.
Starting point is 01:37:48 I think you got sick because you wore yourself down so much. Yeah. But anything that came walking along was going to mess you up with a little cold or whatever it is. I mean, it's probably like a flu, but I just know that again, with fevers, it's kind of the wild west. I know. Well, and I do think like I'm thinking about it and it's like, I want to give OP the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Like I don't think anything happened with Kaia. I think Kaia was just being a good friend. Like if I saw my friend, sick, feverish, sleeping on the couch. I would not have them go in my room, I'll tell you that. I would be like, you can go have my bed. No, not our bed. Or I would say, hey, let me make your sheets up
Starting point is 01:38:37 for you real quick. But honestly, I'd probably rather give someone my bed than touch pukey sheets. But at the same time, you still run the risk of them puking in your sheets, which maybe that's worse. They're clearly sick, like super sick with something. But Kaya does in that sense, seem like a really good friend.
Starting point is 01:38:52 I think this is just honestly, this is just kind of on OP for like, you're young, you're going through the trials of relationships and trying to juggle and balance and learn how to communicate. And this is just one where unfortunately this was a clear boundary for your girlfriend. She walked in, saw what she thinks she saw.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Perfect storm. And that is totally fair. How can you not blame someone? Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. It's probably a duck. She was already so burned by all this in the past. Exactly. So she's like, it's not worth it.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Seven months, it's been great, but the past three weeks have really sucked. I've been ignored. He's been ghosting me. Maybe something's up. Oh, I walk in a check on him. Kai is bed shirtless. Maybe it's meant to be.
Starting point is 01:39:35 That's what's up. Maybe it's meant to be. Honestly, maybe. Maybe just was the sign she needed to say, even if nothing happened here, just not right for me. It's cool. It's cool.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Yeah. Top comment. What do you think it's gonna be? I don't know. To be honest, you should be used to not having a girlfriend by now after three weeks of ignoring her. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Good job, dunker junker for the top comment. Someone goes, this comment. That's like the rain on the window thing. I just, I don't know. This comment deserves a standing ovation. That person really liked it. Is that a term from something? A standing ovation?
Starting point is 01:40:18 No, the Dunker Junker thing? No, that's just their username. Oh, I thought that was, okay. No, that's the top comment on the two outtakes post. Getting tired, yeah. The, oh, we have an update. Oh, good. So the update is coming 28 minus 11 is what?
Starting point is 01:40:41 17? Yes. 17 days later. You can do math. No more saying you can't. Sometimes it pops up. It depends on the number and if it's an easy, because I just did seven plus one, you know? I see. I see. Yeah. I'll start by saying now that this post will be very long, but we'll add little to nothing new. Oh. Thanks. The most expected outcome is what happened. The reason I'm posting this is because I saw Celine for the final time a couple of days ago, and I Oh. Thanks. Sweet. The most expected outcome is what happened. The reason I'm posting this is because I saw Celine for the final time a couple of days ago, and I also want to clear the air on some matters.
Starting point is 01:41:13 For the sake of tracking time, let's call day one the day Celine broke up with me. Day four was when my initial post was published. I sat my final exam at day seven and didn't actually check up on the post until day 8. I was very, very shocked reading the comments. To be blatantly honest, I wasn't expecting like a thousand people calling me a huge bellend. I knew I made a mistake, but in my head, I thought I was a good person. You know how you kind of just perceive yourself to always try and do things with good intentions so you think you can't ever be a bad person?
Starting point is 01:41:44 I don't know if that makes sense, But reading the post opened up my perspective and made me realize that the relationship was not salvageable and also gave me depth on the hurt I caused Celine. I shattered her trust completely and was just not a good boyfriend for the entire month leading up to the breakup. So I just didn't contact her. As I'll mention later on, I was not in a good head space and I distanced myself because I was an even bigger ass than I previously let on. On day 12, she messaged me to ask for her iPad back.
Starting point is 01:42:16 She had let me borrow it for my notes. We last met on day 15 when she came to collect it, among other things. We were both silent the whole time she was there, which must have only been like five minutes or so. She returned some of my stuff I'd left in her apartment, and when she was about to leave, I told her I was sorry. She said okay. I said I never meant to hurt her. She again just said okay. I figured nothing I could say was the right thing at this point, And so we just said goodbye. So like I said, the very expected outcome occurred.
Starting point is 01:42:47 I can't lie and say I'm instantaneously a better person. Now I'm not. I wanna be better, but I can't become a better person in a couple of weeks. And I will really need to work on my character in general. As for Celine, I can only just pray and wish the best for her. Very nice.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Very nice. Very nice. There's a lot of questions OP got asked, and so they're just answering it down below. Did Kaia know about Celine's boundaries? Yes, I told her the day Celine and I discussed our boundaries. She seemed to be very understanding, and we both kept distance since. Which I will say, Kaia didn't sleep in the bed.
Starting point is 01:43:22 There was no sleepovers together. It's just the treatment leading up to all that and that was icing on the cake. Yes. How did you lose consciousness from vomiting? It was from dehydration. On day one, I went to the hospital at noon because my condition wasn't getting any better.
Starting point is 01:43:36 I had a temp of 104 and blood tests show I was severely dehydrated, so I was put on a drip. None of this was mentioned because I never expected this to be a matter of criticism and thought very ill. Sufficed in my previous post. What was the need to be studying so hard for? This is the question which needs a lot of context to understand. I'm Indian and my father is very similar to those strict Indian dads that you'll often see portrayed in movies.
Starting point is 01:44:06 He wanted slash tried forcing me to join the army. I wanted to choose my own path, which was in computer science. And we had a huge rift occur because of it. I moved from India to the UK for my studies. And one of the only reasons he agreed to pay for my tuition was because A, the university I'd gotten into was prestigious and B, he had a way to monitor my grades
Starting point is 01:44:26 and could use this as leverage. So OP really had to strive. Seize good degrees, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I didn't get seized, but. Yeah. Still a fact. You know, there's some other stuff,
Starting point is 01:44:41 but it's very just repetitive. Like why did Kaia invite you to her bed? I asked her and she said the following, I was on my way out to an overnight study session, which meant no one would be home. So I thought you might as well sleep on my bed then. I didn't think it would be such a big deal considering how bad of a condition you were in. I thought Celine would understand.
Starting point is 01:45:00 I didn't get in the bed when I got home. I slept on the couch, which I will say like bad boyfriend three weeks before, crappy communication. But I do think it's like kind of interesting to not hear someone out. Like this person was extremely sick and you're not gonna hear them out. Maybe it was.
Starting point is 01:45:24 And I also wish, I also wish OP when they met up and did the like iPad exchange or whatever, I wish OP would have been like, just so you know, like nothing happened. I was just super sick. All they would say is, okay. But honestly, like I talked about this recently. I'm like, sometimes it just feels good to clear your name,
Starting point is 01:45:43 but I think OP now is just kind of realized like no matter Is this impossible? Yeah. And what's it worth? Yeah. All I can say is if ever anything is ever perceived like that between us, I would just hope we could give each other that moment to at least talk. I would hope there's the, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:13 respect's a weird word, but just the ability to talk and never have that like brick wall done forever, never speaking, like I hope there's some sense of, because if it's innocent as that, and it just looks so bad, you know, I hope there's the level of trust to at least have that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Cause that's actually a nightmare. If you're caught up, like let's say the three weeks leading up didn't happen. Yeah. And it was just focused on that one situation. That would suck to lose someone over that when you literally did nothing wrong, but they won't listen to you. I know, that's, I think, yeah, that just hurts.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Yeah. But we do have the three weeks, which was super shitty. And getting ghosted and ignored by your partner, like you worry. It's just, it's a really, really shitty feeling. Well, that is all I got for us. And this really fun, fun theme. I cannot wait to hear what people think is worse than a red flag.
Starting point is 01:47:24 I'm so scared. I feel like everyone's going to have such like witty little like corpse or whatever you call those things. Like people are quick with those. Oh, some people's brains work so fast and mine just like, sometimes it feels like my brain is like moving through mud. Like, I don't know, you watch like a standup work on the fly and you're like, damn, that person is quick brained. Oh, I got a floater. But then like me, I'm like, I just like something fuzzy from the alpaca blanket just went zoom. But yeah, my brain does not work that fast, unfortunately. But I'm really, really excited to hear what you guys think. I have so, so many stories left for this theme.
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Starting point is 01:48:49 But other than that, thank you for being here another episode. I hope you enjoyed my more zen calming mood today. I feel like I'm a little bit more of myself this week. We've got ponies getting delivered Thursday, the day this episode comes out. So I'm just really excited, stressed, still a lot going on in life,
Starting point is 01:49:12 but very, very excited to have some ponies because they're so good for my mental health. It's like my little me thing. And Justin's gonna start riding. Not start. Well, you have, you know how to ride, but you're gonna get real into it. He's got his own saddle now.
Starting point is 01:49:33 It's gonna be so good. Any send off notes? I'm walking into the other room and as soon as my head hits the pillow, I am just out. I'd be that person right now that falls asleep before the plane takes off. Yeah, that's me every time. There's something about a plane Pavlov'd me. As far as I made it this far.
Starting point is 01:49:56 On that note, guys, thank you so much for being here and until next time. Until next time. Bye. Bye. Bye. you

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