Two Hot Takes - 183: Things Are Not Swell.. Ft. Amanda Swell Entertainment

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Amanda Polka from Swell Entertainment!! Sometimes we hear these stories and we don't know how to feel, but we know things are NOT swell. We recog...nize the people in these stories deserve better, things should not be so unfair, or they need to run for their own good. Life throws a lot at us, but we all deserve for things to be swell. Thank you ahead of time for your thoughts on these ones.. they are TOUGH. TW* please pay close attention to the trigger warnings mentioned. Especially on the last real story we read. Checkout Amanda's Content!! https://www.youtube.com/@SwellEntertainment https://www.instagram.com/luvu2golka/?hl=en LIVE SHOW TICKETS HERE!! https://linktr.ee/twohottakestour MERCH IS ON SALE HERE ! https://shop.twohottakes.com Bonus Content on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes I can't wait to see you all in these, especially at our live shows!! Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Our SubReddit to Submit YOUR Stories!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Partners: Talkspace: Talkspace.com/tht Promo code: space80 RoBody: ro.co/tht Shopify: Shopify.com/tht  ZocDoc: zocdoc.com/tht

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi guys, just want to let you know there's probably not going to be an episode next week. We are taking the week off to spend some quality time in Minnesota with friends and family, but head over to Patreon. September has two full bonus episodes this month, and they're insane. I just, I just can't even get over them still. But be sure to subscribe and enjoy the episode. Okay, oh yes Headphones sound good. There we go. We are rolling on everything.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Don't mind my one-girl circus here. Yup, yup, yup. Okay. Coffee, check. Gave the guest the water, check. Oh, wait. Let me crack this open now before. Yeah, give the people some ASMR. There you go. Okay. We're rolling. We're rumbling.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I'm so excited. Yay! ASMR. There you go. Okay, we're rolling. We're rumbling. I'm so excited. What did you say? You're like, the yapping has been initiated. Yap powers activate. Oh, there we go. Yap. God, if that isn't a good episode title, I might have to save that cause today is covered, but wow. Yap powers activated. Hello. Hi. Welcome back to another episode of Too Hot Takes, everyone. I'm your host, Morgan, and today we are joined
Starting point is 00:01:10 by Amanda Golka from Swell Entertainment. Thank you for having me. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. I pronounced your name right? You did. Okay, thank God. I panic every time. No, you're all right.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Your content, you walked in and I was like watching one of your videos, but your content, you walked in and I was like watching one of your videos, but your content, I can't even put words into how refreshing it is, how you just encompass every side of a topic, of an argument, of whatever. You're so good at being neutral, but yet having subtle opinions, but explaining it all. So the video of Amanda's I watched was this video on overconsumption. And I was just blown away. It's something so simple and it really got me thinking.
Starting point is 00:01:56 I told you I'm sitting here unpacking some trauma because I grew up with my great grandma who lived through the Great Depression and then my grandma like helped to raise us as well. So it was like a full family affair village raising us. And like I didn't know it wasn't normal to like cut your tubes of like makeup open to get the last bit out or like there was just a bunch and I'm like, this is so good. So first and foremost, stop this episode right now and just go over to Amanda's channel because I'm just blown away. And then I got into the hobby horsing video.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yep. And as a horse girl, I'm like. I have been invited to the next world championships in Finland. Please tell me you're going. I'm going to go. It's next year. So we've got some time.
Starting point is 00:02:40 What month? They don't even know yet. They're like, it's usually around June. So literally a year out. I literally just missed it. I kind of want to go. I know. I'm like, I would never do it, but I'm like really intrigued to watch people jump over
Starting point is 00:02:53 meter high fences. Yeah. No, it's, it's crazy. And it's like, I love finding like fun and different things, especially things now. Cause I've gotten so into like sports and sporting adjacent things. I just got back from the Lumberjack World Championships. That's why I needed to lock in the state. I was like, I need to make sure I'm back.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Oh my God. So I was just in Wisconsin for five days for the Lumberjack World Championships. Wow. That's insane. Is that one of the most absurd sports you've witnessed recently? Or what stands out to you as one of your craziest topics absurd sports you've witnessed recently or like what stands out to you
Starting point is 00:03:25 as like one of your craziest topics you've gone into? Yeah, that was one. I just went to a Metal Gear Solid fan convention not too long ago. I'm going to a hacker convention in like two days. Okay, that in Vegas. I know, I'm not sure how to go about. That makes me a little scared for you.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I might just be, you know, getting a digital camera. I honestly- Just leaving my phones everywhere. I would, like, have you seen like all the skimmer stuff lately and like there's something about like this big antenna, I saw like a car theft video where this guy walks up with an antenna as you're like locking your car and then he can come back later and just use the same thing
Starting point is 00:04:03 to get into your car. What? I don't know how it works, but hacking and like... Stuff is... See, that's the thing is... I'm getting paranoid. I have met some hackers and most of them are just very chill. Like they're very low key.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And I think because of media, we have like this big or like anonymous as like collective that like people are just very scared of them. And it's like they're most of the time they're just like, yeah, it's, it's, it's. It's fine. Yeah, it's fine. It's chill, it's low key. Where are we at with student loans and hacking, do you think?
Starting point is 00:04:30 Just, you know, asking for a friend. I would love to ask them. It's one of those things where it's like, you know, I don't know, you know, cause I feel like there's like, there are, God, what was it? This totally unrelated, but there was someone who just like,
Starting point is 00:04:43 they bought a bunch of people's debt from a collection company. Cause debt is sellable. Like a lot of hospitals, medical debt, things like that, personal loan debt. They don't want to go through the stress of collections. So they sell it to a collections agency. And then those are the ones that come after you
Starting point is 00:04:57 for your loans and your debts. And someone just bought, you can just buy people's debts. And they literally just burned the paper. And it's like, your debt's gone after the fact. God, what was this? This was months ago. I got, it's gonna drive me crazy. And I was like, that is what I want.
Starting point is 00:05:11 We need more people to be doing that. Instead, Musk just keeps changing everything on Twitter. Sorry, I'm not calling it X. No, I will always call it Twitter, always, always. Just like, he needs to get off Twitter and go focus on his Cybertruck because those things are just pieces of shit. Oh God, every time I see one,
Starting point is 00:05:31 I was behind one yesterday and I was like, we're adding four links of cars between me and you. I don't trust you on the road. I get the biggest ick from those things. As someone, I love cars, like I love Formula One, I love motorsports, I love, I grew up going to classic car shows, all this stuff, to look at them, it's such an assault on the eyes.
Starting point is 00:05:45 It's like, as someone who is like, no, everyone has their own thing. Everyone's got their own vibe. Everyone loves, no, I hate looking at those things. I genuinely hate it. It made me a little nauseous, to be honest. It's so, I'm like, I'm gonna come up and just put like an industrial grade sticker on your car.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Good luck getting it off, because you can't take it to a car wash. You can't take goo off to it. It's gonna disintegrate the car. Oh my God. And they don't have crumple zones. None. And then did you, I don't know if you saw this,
Starting point is 00:06:09 I don't know the name. They literally were just talking. It's like one of those like car review channels or whatever. Was he taking sledgehammers to it? No, they tried using the tow hitch to tow an F-150. Yes, that's the same guy. Yeah, okay. So tow it and the whole back of the car came off.
Starting point is 00:06:25 The frame snapped off completely. And aluminum, oh God, it makes me physically ill. I know. So I fell down the rabbit hole. He's like a bodybuilder, something, and he does like these car reviews, which I can't even imagine having that money to like blow a hundred something thousand dollars on a car
Starting point is 00:06:44 to just like beat it with a sledgehammer. So he does that tow test. Like the delivery, he like, you see him roll this cyber truck off the delivery truck flat bed and he just like goes zoop and it goes barp on the ground. Like I'm like, it's painful, but like I appreciate the commitment to the bed.
Starting point is 00:07:01 That's the thing. It's like whenever someone is mad at a phone reviewer where it's like, oh, I did a stress test and it snaps the iPhone in half and it's like, okay, good thing I'm never gonna go like this on my iPhone. It's like, yeah, but we do need that. We do need people that do full in-depth reviews,
Starting point is 00:07:17 including of cars. Absolutely, I mean, I think it holds all of those companies more accountable. Don't sell us shit. Exactly. We want good stuff. Yes. We want good stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Which this week's episode is not full of good stuff. The theme I have today is it's not swell. Things are not all right. It's not okay. I'm excited. People are unwell. I'm gonna be unwell. I'm, there's a lot happening here.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I'm ready. Let's dive in. Yeah, powers activate. I seriously love that. Okay, so this first one is coming from Relationship Advice. It is titled, My 29 male girlfriend, 29 female, has a hard time acting like a girlfriend. How do I address this? As someone who is perpetually single, I already feel I'm gonna have opinions on this. My girlfriend, Rain, and I have been in a relationship
Starting point is 00:08:30 for a few months. We didn't get together in the most conventional way because she was my wife's friend and we fell in love. My wife, Rose, and I lost that excitement in our relationship. My girlfriend and I got that excitement, and unfortunately, we started an affair. Unfortunately, like you were passive bystander
Starting point is 00:08:49 to this happening, okay, continue. I regretted deeply. We should have told her right away. We did end up confessing, and unfortunately, my wife did not take it well. Fast forward a couple of months. Rose did a great job at being a wife, and I took that for granted.
Starting point is 00:09:04 She made sure we spent quality time together, she did nice gestures, was a great mother to our child — with Rain? She doesn't help at all with the baby, and just sits there. To clarify, the baby I have with Rose we have joint custody of, and I'm now staying with Rain, and she doesn't do shit. I've asked, and she just complains. Mind you, she also hasn't seen her child in months. She had a child with her ex-husband and makes zero effort to see her child. She is so indifferent about it, it's crazy. But perhaps worst of all is she goes to the club all of the time and doesn't let me know. She will just come
Starting point is 00:09:42 home at 3 to 4 a.m. and it annoys me. Meanwhile, I come home from work and I cooked and cleaned. I don't mind her going out, but all the time she needs to at least act like a partner. It seems like she just prioritizes fun. What do I do?" Okay, so I didn't get the spot where they were separated because it does sound like he's still with his wife. But then then he said, okay, I'm living with my girlfriend. Yep. Okay. What do you do is that you blew up your life. It's what you did. You blew up your life. Your your wife clearly loved and adored you and your kid. And of course, she's doing a great job being a wife. Yeah, because she was your wife. That was what she was.
Starting point is 00:10:26 She's now, she's a great mom still, because she was before that. You just lost the spark because you stopped trying to find the spark basically. And then it's like, yeah, your girlfriend's now complacent because also, I'm sorry. So she blew up her marriage too. Were they separated at all?
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah, okay. We're missing a lot of information here. There's key details missing. There is a lot of typos in this. I'm not sure if English is the first language because a lot of just the grammar stuff I kind of reworked on the fly, but it's definitely interesting
Starting point is 00:10:57 and the timeline is very unclear. Like they hit it, but now he's moved out. Unclear if they're actually divorced or just separated. Yeah, cause she was doing a great job being a good wife after she found out. And it's like, okay, so you decided to try and work through it, even though she took it poorly is what I would interpret that as.
Starting point is 00:11:16 But then he's like, but I'm living with my girlfriend. And I almost think that the things that are missing are to make the girlfriend sound worse. I could see that. Because then it's like, oh yeah, she's not seeing her kid. And it's like, okay, well, was she divorced before you guys were together? Was she with her kid before you guys were together?
Starting point is 00:11:31 I know. Is this a new development since you've gotten together? Cause you know, I can see that cause there are some people who are like, oh, well, this is my second chance at life. I'm getting rid of everything of my old life. Isn't that so crazy? Which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But I can see some people do see that as like, oh, this is my option to do this. But again, we're missing key information. The advice here is you messed up. That's the advice. Yeah. I think you gotta take this tail between your legs and admit you messed up.
Starting point is 00:11:59 And thank God your wife got out from your sorry self. Yes. But this person isn't your person and you learned a tough lesson and you move on. You find a new girlfriend. Yeah, it almost sounds like he's trying to be like, okay, so here's how great my wife is. This is what my girlfriend's doing.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And almost like being like, how can I get my girlfriend to be like my wife? She's not. It's like, she won't be. No, she's going to be at the club. Yeah, she couldn't be at the club. And it almost sounds like, cause he's saying the spark, she's going to be at the club. She couldn't be at the club. And it almost sounds like, cause he's saying the spark was there.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Did they meet at a club? You know? This is the girlfriend's, so this is the wife's friend. I think we're skipping over that, which we can't skip over. Cause also I would literally, Oh God. Maybe cause it's not even like just being a girl's girl.
Starting point is 00:12:41 I would never do that to someone. No. I would literally never do that, let alone to my friend's husband. Like that's crazy. I give the wife so much props for not going nuclear because I would- She could have hit you both with her car
Starting point is 00:12:56 and it would have been justified. Yeah, I would have gone Beyonce, baseball bat, lemonade style on something of theirs. Like, oh, oh. I know it is interesting. And I think it's like, oh, we had the spark. It was so exciting. Well, yeah, cause you were doing it behind your wife's back.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Like of course secrets and the thrill of, oh, let's not get caught are gonna make it interesting for you, which I still can't wrap my head around some people thinking that way. Cause it would just give me nonstop anxiety. Yeah, no, fully. My anxiety barely lets me date. It's not going to let me be a home wrecker.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Like it just will not. It's like, it's like one as a person, I'm just not, it just not appealed to me whatsoever. But then also like, let's say, oh, maybe I do fall in love with someone. My anxiety would just be like, you were doing something wrong. It is bad, bad, bad.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Soft sabotage at every moment. Do they like me? They don't like me. He hates me. Why is he here? Oh my God. I'm not really. Yeah, that's the struggle of that inner monologue sometimes. It's rough, but this one is brutal. It's only six days old right now. Oh, God. Okay, ready?
Starting point is 00:13:51 It's a fresh one. It's a fresh one. Top comment on it. Not sure why you're expecting your girlfriend to be someone she wasn't to begin with. Yeah. Also, she technically doesn't have to take care of your child. She's your girlfriend, not your wife, nor your child. She's your girlfriend. She's your child. doesn't have to take care of your child.
Starting point is 00:14:07 She's your girlfriend, not your wife, nor your baby's mother. Yeah. No, that's that also we didn't discuss that is like the fact that, yeah, she doesn't do anything for my kid. It's like she doesn't know anything for her kid either. It's like, okay, well then it sounds like she may not have done anything for her kid in the first place. And that's why she was down to have an affair with you as well as like her marriage
Starting point is 00:14:28 Maybe she was already divorced. Maybe they were already going through a hard time. Whatever. It's like the signs were there I don't know what you thought was gonna happen here at the same time I mean Just rational brain like she he clearly knew she likes the club She likes going out you kind of know those things, or maybe they didn't. Maybe they only talked between nine and 5 p.m. while he was at work. I don't know, but you clearly knew something about her,
Starting point is 00:14:53 at least enough to want to sleep with her and have this affair for an extended period of time. We didn't get a timeline for how long the affair was, right? But if it's more, also if this is your wife's friend, she's been in your life for a long time, you would have heard your wife talk about like, it's like, oh yeah, no, she doesn't wanna come to dinner, she's going out with friends tonight, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:12 like you would have heard that. So he's an idiot. Moral of the story is you're an idiot. You're an idiot. Next comment down, the dildo of consequences that rarely arrives lubed is arriving really early for this guy. I love to see it.
Starting point is 00:15:27 God, I hope Rose is out there living her best life with someone that loves, appreciates, and respects her because this asshole certainly didn't. I'm really hoping Rose is not her real government name. I'm really hoping. Because some people- Then he said the other woman's name, the girlfriend's name, right, too, eventually?
Starting point is 00:15:44 Rain. Yeah, those are very specific. Rain and Rose, just those are her names. Yeah. Next comment down. You feel that sharp pain in your ass? That's the Karma bus hitting you. The Karma bus.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I haven't heard of a bus before, but I like that. I like envisioning the bus is coming for my enemies. Because it's on a schedule. Oh, I like that. You see, you're so quick with it. You're so quick with it. Yeah, I think this is, I kind of like this. I'm happy things aren't so swell for him.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Screw you, buddy. Okay, moving along. Okay, this next one is coming from Am I the Asshole. Oh, the OG, baby. Let's go. It's titled, Am I the Asshole for Telling My Brother to Get Out and Take His Bitch of a Wife with Him When He Asked for Some of Our Mom's Ashes?
Starting point is 00:16:40 I'm gonna go with yes. My mom used to live near my brother. She was a quiet person in general, and after dad died was lonely. She wanted to have dinner with my brother and his family often. His wife, Kara, didn't like that, and they agreed to do it once a month. Mom started to have issues and would send panic texts and went to the doctors randomly. Around this time, his wife made a lot of posts about how she was an attention seeker
Starting point is 00:17:08 and was making up problems, that she was trying to cause a wedge in their relationship. My brother stopped visiting our mother and I do not like Kara at all. When this started happening, I decided to visit my mom. I live in another state. It took me a day to realize something was wrong. I took her to the doctors, and it turns out she had dementia.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I informed the family and became the main caretaker. Kara continued to make posts or comments that she was faking it. My brother stood by her the whole time. I literally begged him to come and visit before she passed. She was cremated and I have the ashes. He didn't even come to the viewing. This is the issue. He and Kara showed up asking for some of our mom's ashes.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I told him no, that he didn't even see her before she died. This started an argument against us all. By the end of it, I told him to get out and take his bitch of a wife with him. He has been calling me a jerk and telling me I have to apologize. The family is torn. Some are saying fuck him and Kara, but others are saying I would give in
Starting point is 00:18:17 because it's his mom too. Am I the asshole? I take it back, you're not the asshole. No, I, no, I, okay. So none of my grandparents had dementia, but my dad's long-term girlfriend who did pass away at the end of 2022 from cancer, it is truly terrifying. And it's terrifying for them too,
Starting point is 00:18:39 because they can be so confused, so scared. It's not something that you can fake, honestly, I don't think, especially when you're older, because you don't have the forethought of that. Like it's terrifying. So that's that. So already your sibling and his wife are assholes because to even insinuate publicly on Facebook
Starting point is 00:19:01 is what I'm assuming. That's insane. Because it's one thing if she's like, I think she thinks my mom is faking. That's one thing if you believe that, to have public proof that she is posting that your mom was faking is so insensitive, so unhinged, so insane. That's ridiculous already, okay?
Starting point is 00:19:21 And then for your brother to back it up, your brother not be worried about his mother or anything like that, insane. So I don't think you're the asshole. Yes, could delivery be better? Sure. But then to not, regardless of what you believed, your mother has now passed away.
Starting point is 00:19:38 You don't go to the viewing. And again, your sister lived in another state, operated her life to go take care of her mom. While you had seemingly lived down the street is what it sounds like. And you didn't take time to go to the viewing and now you want Ash's why? To be a good son all of a sudden?
Starting point is 00:19:54 It's for show. Excuse my language. Fuck you. You're done. You're done. I wish you would have gone harder on him, honestly. Like there's so many things wrong with this one. And I think the point of publicly bringing this about,
Starting point is 00:20:10 saying she's faking dementia. It's insane. It's insane. It's one thing to think it between you and your partner. Your mom's being a little dramatic with this. She's got a history of being a hypochondriac in the past. She malingers some things. But who wants to fake fucking dementia?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Have you ever seen someone go through that? You fucking asshole, Kara, Kara, however the fuck you say it. That's not something I would wish on my worst enemy. You lose your sense of self. It's just no. And so to publicly air it again and again and again, she's gone.
Starting point is 00:20:49 So you were proven incorrect. Still didn't go to the viewing. So you still, was she faking being dead? Is that what your thought process was? Cause that's insane. What the fuck? What do they want to do with these ashes? I feel like they're trying to do some fucking seance
Starting point is 00:21:03 or something evil. No, I don't think- Cause they give evil. They do give evil, but I also, again, I feel like they're trying to do some fucking seance or something evil. Because they give evil. They do give evil, but I also, again, it's like what goes back to an earlier story about refusing to be seen as a bad mother or a bad parent, being refusing to be seen as a bad son or daughter-in-law. Like it's like, oh no, we need something from the family. It's like, oh, we couldn't go, but we have her ashes here.
Starting point is 00:21:20 We have a photo of her here. We wanna remember her constantly as a very performative. I know it's disgusting. Very performative is my assumption because it's like, I just, I hate it. It's awful. And then it's like, I'm sorry, does he have kids? Is that what she said?
Starting point is 00:21:35 Their family? So I assumed kids. I don't know if there's any mention of kids. I think like overall the family is torn. Some are saying fuck him. When they were saying that she wanted to see my brother and his family earlier on. Mm, yes.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And so I was like, oh no, she didn't like it though. So they only saw once a month. It does imply some children potentially, yeah. Yeah, so maybe it's like, maybe the kids are asking like, well, what happened to grandma? Like, or something like that. And it's like they're wanting, you know, Ashes is like, oh, well she passed away.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Why didn't we go to the funeral? I don't know. We don't know how old the kids are, if there are kids. The implication sounds like there's kids is the implication. So, or at least a kid. But yeah, I just don't, you're not an asshole.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I think you should have gone harder. And yeah, if there's your family, it's funny. Cause like I've said, I don't have contact with one of my parents and everyone has an opinion on that. Of course. And periodically, especially I get calls from people who never call me otherwise.
Starting point is 00:22:34 It's time to forgive. It's like, you know, they're doing really great. I'm like, cool, did I ask? I don't think I did. I'm also doing great. Have you asked how I'm doing? No? Cool.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Like it's the same thing. I think when it's not directly impacting someone, like they're not act, like if the rest of the family, I don't think was taking care of your mother in that time, was not dealing with your brother and his wife in that time, was not seeing these posts in that time, then it's hard for them to contextualize that until it affects them.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And so it's really easy to be like, well, that's your mother, that's his mother too. Yes, it is that, but it's like, they wanna remember that now after the fact. They wanna remember that. Versus during the time when you uprooted your life to go and take care of your mom and be a good daughter and be a good, upstanding member of society
Starting point is 00:23:16 and not a complete lunatic like your sister-in-law. And it's like, again, she was posting publicly that she was faking dementia. That's unhinged. That's insane. She needs help. She needs help and not the ashes. Don't give them the ashes.
Starting point is 00:23:29 No, no ashes. No, no, no, no, no, no. And it's so frustrating. I think that's a big grievance of mine is when people who don't have like a hair to lose or they don't have a dog in the fight, chime in. This isn't your fight. Stay out of it.
Starting point is 00:23:44 As we are weighing in on people's stories. You have nothing to lose though by like saying this opinion to me. Like, oh, of course it's easy for you to say to reconnect with my parent. They didn't hurt you. You're not the one with an issue with them. Just butt out.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Just butt out. Really, seriously. I'm so. No, you're not the asshole. You're not the asshole. In fact, I would have probably decked my sister-in-law at that point, especially if she showed up asking for ashes. Cause it sounds like this was months after the cremation,
Starting point is 00:24:13 not like the day after. So it's like, you could have gone to the viewing or did you just show up after and it's like, oh, we need our portion of the ashes. You know, I'm surprised there's nothing- I hope she wrote them out of the will. I'm hoping there's not, there's no mention of the will it sounds like. So it's like, I'm hoping there's nothing. I hope she wrote them out of the will. I'm hoping there's no mention of the will, it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:24:25 So it's like, I'm hoping there's nothing or anything like that, but it's, I hate it. Let's see, let's get into the comments. Oh God. Top comment, not the asshole. Your brother made his choice and he chose poorly. He deserves nothing. They have the same energy as my younger sister.
Starting point is 00:24:41 She was really abusive and awful to my mother most of her life. And she continued after my mother got diagnosed with cancer and traveled internationally more than she came to visit. Then she's engaged in some performative bullshit at her funeral. Next comment down. Sadly, I think just about everyone has a similar family member. I'm sorry you had to go through that. There are some comments that OP responds to. Someone goes, what would your mom have wanted? And OP says, she wanted her son to care about her
Starting point is 00:25:11 when she was alive. Mm. Yeah, exactly. And like, the dementia is so hard to you because you know, every single day, especially even if it was like once a month that they were seeing her, that's a pattern that she probably got used to
Starting point is 00:25:26 even in her dementia. So she'd be like, oh, where's brother's name? Are they coming by? Are they, what time are they coming? Like it would probably be things like that, where it's like, and so she would have to, it's like, oh, well, well, they're not coming today. You know, like she had to go through that.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah. And she had to routinely tell her mom, no, they're not coming. Like that's horrifying. It's so sad. Someone replies back to OP's comment, and they go, eight with this one.
Starting point is 00:25:53 May she rest in peace knowing she had a son like that. I'm sure she's watching over you. And someone goes, to hell with your brother, his wife, and being the bigger person. Keep all of the ashes. I'm sorry for your loss. May your mother continue resting in peace
Starting point is 00:26:06 away from those that caused her pain." Someone goes gagged, honestly, at this point. Do what you feel is best. I know. I'm sorry. I don't mean to laugh, but it took me out. Well, that's like when I read like eight with this one. It's like, I get it, but like, damn.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Like this is a point where you don't wanna like. Common section is eldest daughters who have had to be in this position is what it sounds like in some capacity. Elvis daughters. Yeah. Lisa Marie, what does it mean? No, eldest daughters, like oldest.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Sorry, what did I say? I thought you said Elvis daughters. No, eldest daughters. Lisa Marie Presley? No. What do you know about that? Eldest daughters, no. No. Which I mean, she is an eldest daughter. No eldest daughters. Lisa Marie Presley? No. What do you know about that? Eldest daughters, no. No.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Which I mean she is an eldest daughter. She is. She is. Man. Yeah, OP people are like, wait, what are you asking? And OP was like outside opinion on if I went too far. I know I am biased. I'm so close to the issue.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I want to know others opinions on this. And if I should give him some ashes. No. no, I mean, it's, I vote no. But also it's like, if you, yeah, you asked that you answer the question, what would your mother want? Your mother wanted a son that cared about her when she was alive and you know, took her concerns seriously and things like that. Cause she clearly knew something was wrong with her going to the doctors, but she didn't have the mental, you the mental wherewithal to be like, okay, I am forgetting things. I am losing time, things like that.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Like that's, and I'm getting confused. That's what she needed. If they had cared about her at all, versus thinking that she was just crazy or trying to drive a wedge in your marriage, which is insane behavior. That's insane to make that assumption. And what she was asking for is like,
Starting point is 00:27:47 she wanted to see him and his family. She wanted to have dinner with them. And that was viewed as driving a wedge between their relationship. That's nuts. So you just want to separate your husband from his entire family. Dinner once a month, like that's not a lot to ask for.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Especially it sounds like if you live in the same city is what it sounds like. I literally, if I lived in the same city, I'd see my grandma four, five times a week. Like I love my grandma. I talk to my dad all the time. I love my grandma. I see my dad for dinner all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And it's just like, it's not, when you, I don't know. It's just, and I get not having a great relationship, but it doesn't sound like there were any issues or OP maybe would have mentioned it. My brother and my mom were strained, blah, blah, blah, blah, but it doesn't sound like that. She's the one that lives in another state and she still came home.
Starting point is 00:28:37 She's like, I wanted to visit my mom, come to visit, and I immediately knew something was wrong. Such? Immediately. I was there a day and I knew something was wrong. And the brother had seen her how often. Yeah. Is there any more comments from that one?
Starting point is 00:28:49 No other comments besides there wasn't a funeral, just a viewing, but either way he lived in the same town. Easily could have made it. And even then, viewings as well, there is a preparation process that is a cost. Cremation is not cheap, I do know that. Like I'm assuming he didn't help with any of those costs or anything like that as well.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And then he wants the ashes. And it's like, I'm assuming that maybe she didn't want to write that in there because it is, it's tacky to talk about that when it comes to death. But it is a factor, dying in this country is expensive. They don't tell you that. Is it, is that? It's is expensive. They don't tell you that. Is it? Is that?
Starting point is 00:29:26 It's very expensive. That feels like illegal. Yeah. To get buried, I saw some sort of stat, like to get buried and have a nice casket and a nice funeral, it's at least $8,000. Mm-hmm. What?
Starting point is 00:29:41 Cremation is one of the cheaper options and it still is very expensive. And even then it's like, and like to have a viewing as well, like they do go through the process of preparing the body. And so that is very expensive. No, I don't want to be embalmed. Yeah. No, honestly, now that I'm thinking about this,
Starting point is 00:29:56 future family, if you check back in, I'll, I won't put that on you though. It'll be very clear in my will. Oh yeah, no, I have a living will at 26. I have something laid out fully. So good, you're so good. Well, I have a parent I don't speak to. I don't want it on you though. It'll be very clear in my will. Oh yeah, no, I have a living will at 26. I have something laid out fully. You're so good, you're so good. Well, I have a parent I don't speak to. I don't want it to be a debate.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I don't want there to be a lawsuit. I don't want my dad to go through that. Your lawyer local? I need someone good. There's quite a few, we'll find you one. But I literally just bury me in the backyard. Wooden box, like just wooden box. I don't want a fancy casket.
Starting point is 00:30:22 What's crazy is in some instances, you legally can't do that They make it very difficult. Can you get buried in your backyard? I think it's state by state Burial on private property is possible in Minnesota There you go If you want to establish a private cemetery You must have the land surveyed and the plat recorded with the deed the cemetery land will be exempt from taxation Hmm. Look at me I'm gonna go build a cemetery in my backyard. Start a family plot. I got a
Starting point is 00:30:51 couple dogs there you know. I think this is this is gonna be good. Yeah. Oh gosh. This is crazy but no not the asshole. Not the asshole. Just I'm so sorry for your loss and the fact that you now have to deal with this out of layer while you're grieving. No, I know. And that's the thing too. It's like, it's never just, you think it ends at that and it never is, which is such a bummer.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Cause then it's like family politics are just such a nightmare, frankly. It's awful. It's exhausting. It's exhausting. Why can't people just be more sane and loving and kind towards their family and just not crazy. Like absolutely crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Like I still haven't really had a relationship with like my aunt's husband in years and I love my aunt. I love my cousins, but it's been like the past and it always happens at Christmas, which is should be a happy time. But like four years ago, he just was like talking shit about my, and it always happens at Christmas, which should be a happy time. But like four years ago, he just was like talking shit about my mom. And it's like, of course I'm gonna get upset. So we didn't talk for years after that.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Randomly started seeing each other again. And then this past Christmas, my grandma had like a front wheel drive car and was becoming very unsafe to drive. It wouldn't start. It was just, it was terrible. And she's 82 years old. And so I have the privilege and thanks to all of you guys,
Starting point is 00:32:11 I was able to get her a car. And so I bought her like this little, it was used. It's not like anything crazy, but it's still a beautiful new car. My grandma's never gotten a new car. And it's new, basically. And they stormed out of Christmas. And I haven't talked to them since. They were like, fuck Morgan, she's showing off.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And it's like, this is quite literally not about me. This is not about you. This is about grandma. And I didn't even like preface it as like, I got you this car, grandma. I literally, we recorded it. We played it back to see what they got so upset over. I literally go, we got you this car, grandma.
Starting point is 00:32:48 There's one last gift for you. We got you this car. We, until they stormed out, she thought everyone had done it. Ah. Like what is your- Like it was a family pulling it together. What is, and we asked, we literally asked like, you can contribute a hundred bucks.
Starting point is 00:33:04 You can contribute $500, like whatever you want, and you can to be a part of this. Did they reply? They were like, no. And then you did it anyway. I did it anyways. Yeah, of course. They didn't think I would.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And I'm like, no, my grandma's gonna be safe out there on those roads. Yeah, no, people don't expect others to stand on business because they refuse to. It's literally that. And I'm like, you're mad at me for getting her something she needed to be safe. Yeah. Insane. Okay. Crazy. Fucking psychos. I just don't understand people. I'm just like, why? Why? Why can't people just be nice? Okay, moving along. One
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Starting point is 00:35:03 birthday after she gave me an ultimatum. My girlfriend Lisa and I have been together for two years. Her birthday is coming up and she's been planning a big celebration with friends and family for months. It's a milestone birthday for her and she's really excited about it because she always felt her birthday hasn't been celebrated properly in the past. Here is where it gets complicated. My sister, Jane, just announced her wedding date, and it's the same weekend as Lisa's birthday. Jane and her fiance had to move their wedding date up
Starting point is 00:35:35 due to some family health issues, and now it's a small, intimate ceremony that means a lot to her. Jane asked me to be a part of the wedding party, and as her only sibling, it's important to me to be there. When I broke the news to Lisa, she was devastated. She feels that her birthday should be a priority, especially since I've known about it for
Starting point is 00:35:55 so long. She's also hurt because she planned this big event with her closest people, and my absence would be noticeable. It's suggested celebrating her birthday a day earlier or later or even me flying back the next morning, but she wasn't having any of it. Things escalated when Lisa gave me an ultimatum. Either I attend her birthday party or we're done. She feels this is a test of my commitment to our relationship and argued that if I loved her I would prioritize her special day.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I explained that my sister's wedding is a once in a lifetime event and that I can't miss it, but she insists I'm choosing my family over her. Now I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. My family thinks it's obvious I should go to my sister's wedding, but some of our mutual friends say Lisa has a point and that birthdays are important milestones in a relationship. I don't want to hurt either of them,
Starting point is 00:36:54 but I can't be in two places at once. So am I the asshole for prioritizing my sister's wedding? Okay, there's a lot there. And also I have this thing where like, I don't think I've ever had like a good birthday that wasn't a complete nightmare. And so in that regard, like last year my birthday, I was like, okay, who's buying me lunch?
Starting point is 00:37:11 Who's buying me dinner? That is all I wanna plan. I don't wanna plan anything else. We're not having a party. We're doing nothing. Who is buying me food? That is it. It was great.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Because there's no pressure. There's no like let down. Yes. That's the hard part. Just the let down. Yes. And so in that regard, I'm like, okay, yeah, it's a birthday, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Like it's, but I get it. You know, you want to throw something big and this is a wrench in that. But at the same time, it's like the family health issues, I don't think we could ignore that. That's a huge piece of contact. Because there's a lot of people, like I've seen weddings get moved up.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I've seen, you know, vow renewals get moved up, things like that, because it's like, you know, my grandmother's going to die. I need to get married so that she can be there. And it sounds like that, there's something there, whether it's his family or his sister's fiance's family, like that is relevant. And if his sister wants him there because it's his sister,
Starting point is 00:38:06 I would choose the wedding. And then, okay, but then also like, let's say, I think I'm gonna marry this girl. This is my girlfriend. I think I'm gonna marry her. Surprise trip a week before. Surprise week in a way. I can't be here on your birthday, and I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:38:17 but I want you to know that I am- I love that. I am committed to this relationship. And so this is how I'm proving that to you. That's such a great- And then I will come back first thing the next morning, but I have to do this for my family. And as my future wife one day, throw that in there, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I know you will understand the sacrifice I have to make right now to be there for my sister, because I know that you would also understand how important it was for my sister to be at our wedding one day. I'm being a little bit of a little shit with it. But at the same time, I'm like, I would, if I truly thought like this is my person
Starting point is 00:38:51 and she's just not being rational because she's so emotionally invested. Cause I get it. There's a lot of people I've seen, I think the birthday dinner thing is a big deal on TikTok as well with like, oh, they didn't come to my birthday dinner. They're officially not in my friend group anymore and all of that. It is crazy. The stipulations and hoops,
Starting point is 00:39:11 people will make their friends try to jump through. And it's like, not everyone is in that place of privilege, comfort to be able to like afford a luxury, like luxurious dinner. Like, I'm, oh, that's just, people have gotten so beyond. It's crazy. But I, yeah, I'm just like, she's really put him through it. Yeah, and it's like, I get it. This isn't your friend, this is your boyfriend of two years.
Starting point is 00:39:37 This is important to you. But also it's like, she's getting married one time, you have a birthday every year. I get it, this is a big deal. Miles' birthday, I'm assuming it's a 25, a 30 maybe. Like I'm assuming it's like one of the big fives or something. So there is a couple edits from OP.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Ooh, okay, all right. It will be her 21st birthday. Oh. I was gonna say before seeing the age, I was gonna say this is given young. Yeah. Because if this were me, even if it was like my 30th, I would have been like, for my 30th, I just went to Disneyland. Like I have friends that have done big trips and it's amazing and everyone should celebrate their birthday the way they want to. But like I just, I don't know. I was like at Disneyland sounds nice. No pressure. No letdown. No tears this year.
Starting point is 00:40:23 First birthday without tears. so something about Disneyland. But it was giving young, like not understanding. And they've only been together two years, which I get everyone has like their own relationship timeline. Some people are married within two years. Some people are married within six months. But I've had cake in my freezer longer than this relationship. So, I mean, if it doesn't work,
Starting point is 00:40:49 and this is a great test of you're having something hard, how are you gonna work through it? Because life is never easy. The thing with relationships is how do you work through the hard stuff? And do you work through it well? And if you don't, then there might be a compatibility issue. Question. Did OP give us his age? No mention of ages. Oh, that
Starting point is 00:41:13 stresses me out. Are you like, is he 34? Yeah, like I'm thinking, because did he say his younger sister is getting married? Um, just sister. Okay. See that alone. I don't know. That's giving me some red flags maybe. It's giving big sister for me. Let me see if there's any ages in comments from OP. Okay. Cause if like they're both 21, a milestone birthday, the way he says milestone birthday, that makes me sound like, to me, I interpret that as, he's older cause he knows it's a milestone age.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Like he himself has been through 21 already, which could make him 25, which not a big deal. Okay. I don't know. It does seem because he knows it's a milestone age. Like he himself has been through 21 already, which could make him 25, which not a big deal. I don't know. It does seem, he never calls her child. Did he ever? I don't think he ever called her childish.
Starting point is 00:41:52 No. Yeah, so then I think it's fine. I think that, yes, she's very young. She doesn't get it. And she may not get it. This might be the challenging time. You're right. I think this might be the,
Starting point is 00:42:06 hey, listen, it's my sister. She's getting married one time. It's extenuating circumstances. I wanna be there for her. I would really love for you to support me at this time and I will make it up to you. If I can't make it up to you, then this is where our paths end.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I'm with you. I'm on that boat with you. Top comment, did your sister move it up to that weekend knowing about the birthday weekend, or did they just move it up and didn't realize until you told them it was the same date as her birthday? The latter, they don't even know it's her birthday. Okay, then yeah, then yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:43 because when you first had moved up the date and then didn't say like the family stuff and all of that, I was like, okay, is this a, my sister hates my girlfriend. Yeah, like is this that? But even then it's like, I can't imagine, even in my most vindictive mindset, I can't be like, I'm gonna move out my special day just to get my boyfriend, my brother to break up with his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Like that's insane. So that- Wedding planning, I haven't even started because it's like, I can't even imagine wedding planning, the stress and having to like rapidly move something up because of family health issues. Like the stress, you would really have to hate this girl to do that to yourself.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I'm fully planning on eloping by the way. I've seen all my cousins get married. I'm technically next in line. And I told my aunt, cause she's planned all of them. She's like, I know what to do for you now. I'm like, no, no, no, plan the party. I'm just going to go elope and then we can have a party. And she's like, okay, I like that.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I like that. Someone does respond after that, the same person actually. So my not the asshole still stands. And that is a red flag that she's giving you an ultimatum. Because that's the thing here. It's not like I'm really mad at you, you're letting me down. It's you pick me and my birthday or we're done.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Like if you are giving someone an ultimatum over something so trivial, but like I understand. Inconsequential. Yes. Yeah. It's your 21st. It's big, it's exciting. If you're in the States, you get to drink for the first time,
Starting point is 00:44:05 that can be a big milestone at that age, absolutely. But 15 years from now, like I don't remember my 21st really. Like I don't, you know, it's like the wedding is really what's more important here in the grand scheme of things. So OP's edit, little update. After this post, I texted and called out her behavior
Starting point is 00:44:26 and now she is crying saying I don't even care for her. I'm trying to calm her down, but she is really crying a lot. Did little video call to see her face. I don't know what to do, bruh. Edit number two. Okay, he's definitely 22. He's young. He's young. We're good. We're good. Little more update. I think now she has calmed down a bit and is understanding my point of view.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I said I'll try to either rush things and be on both sides for small time or we will celebrate a grand one next time slash day or whenever she likes. Now she said, okay, and then wrote a long ass emotional paragraph on how much she loves me after reading that even I got emotional even if it was genuine or not though to the people asking it will be her 21st there's a baby oh god I just I remember being 20 you know it's like I say every day it's like I'm so glad my YouTube channel didn't blow up or take off until I was 22. Instead of when I was 16, I would be a psychopath.
Starting point is 00:45:29 I'd probably be in jail. There would be a problem. I would be insane. But even then, I feel like 20 to 22. I feel like I was such a different person. To now, I'm 26. I'm just a drastically different person. So yes, right now, this is the most important thing
Starting point is 00:45:44 to her in life, but also it's like, I feel like even once the wedding happens and she like sees the photo or boyfriend and has like, maybe it'll be in a suit, nice jacket, something for his sister's wedding, she'll be like, I should be there with him. You know, like I am being ridiculous. I should be there with him.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah. So hopefully that's the perspective, but I do think that it wouldn't be until after the fact. Yeah, I know. I feel like if this was my birthday, I would have just shifted it. Cause I would want to be at the wedding. Well, if I was invited, I guess.
Starting point is 00:46:16 But I'm like, if you have the opportunity to go to a wedding, I'd go to the wedding and then have your birthday a different weekend. There is a comment here from someone. They go, 15 years from now, you and your wife will be at your sister's house looking at pictures of her wedding. And one of your kids will ask,
Starting point is 00:46:31 why aren't you in the pictures, daddy? And your sister will say, you blew me off for that girl. What was her name? And you'll respond, Laura, no, Lisa. Yeah, it was Lisa. And OP responds and goes goes yeah, lol. I Love when people make fan fictions Like that's that's that's funny, but also it's like
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah, I think that's there. There is this it's funny I like I I don't intend to talk in tik-tok trends, but there is this like thing going on on tik-tok right now I don't know if you've seen this where it's like, oh, unmatching with him on Tinder because my future husband would never say that to me or something like that. Or it's like things like that. It's like, yeah, would your future wife ask you
Starting point is 00:47:15 to skip your sister's wedding? I think is the question you have to ask yourself here. And I do think this is someone who might be a little younger or just not as relationship savvy because a lot of people are now pointing out the red flags. I do think this is someone who might be a little younger or just not as relationship savvy because a lot of people are now pointing out the red flags. And he's like, yeah, you know, I was just conflicted about trying to be in two places at once
Starting point is 00:47:32 and trying to make it happen for both of them that I kind of ignored the red flags. So we do have an update. An official. Like post wedding update or post like. Not sure, haven't read it. It's 10 hours old. I'm so, I'm sad, I'm sad.
Starting point is 00:47:50 First of all, thank you for your feedback on my original post. I decided to go to my sister Jane's wedding, but things have gotten a bit more complicated since then. When I told Lisa that I would be attending the wedding, she was understandably upset and cried a lot. She love bombed me, showered me with affection and promises, and finally agreed that we could celebrate her birthday the next day.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I thought we had come to a reasonable compromise. During the wedding weekend, Lisa texted and called constantly with various problems. She claimed her car had broken down and she didn't know what to do. Then she said she had an urgent work issue she needed my help with. At one point, she sent me a series of frantic messages about our dog acting strangely, only to later admit that he was perfectly fine. Lisa also pulled some weird stunts to disturb me. She sent a food delivery to my hotel room with a note saying, quote, wish you were here, and even called the hotel pretending to be me and leave a message saying
Starting point is 00:48:51 my presence was needed at home urgently. It was bizarre and stressful, but I tried to stay focused on supporting my sister. When I got back, I went straight to see Lisa. She kissed and hugged me a lot, acting overly affectionate. However, since then, she's been continuously taunting me about ignoring her for the wedding. She makes passive aggressive comments like, quote, I guess family is more important than I am, and, quote, hope Jane's wedding was worth abandoning me. I'm at a loss for how to feel. On one hand, I understand she felt neglected,
Starting point is 00:49:28 but on the other hand, her behavior during the wedding was extremely disruptive. Yet sometimes she loves and seduces me like I doubt anyone can ever do it that lovely. Our relationship feels quite complicated and I'm not sure how to move forward. Thank you all for the advice on my previous post. I'm trying to navigate this situation but it's been tough. Okay disruptive is not the word. Unwell is the word. Unhinged, deranged, there's a couple other you know mentally unstable.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yes that's because it not even anything about like, oh, her birthday was wonderful. She didn't have a good time. Something happened at the birthday. Nothing about the birthday. So clearly it sounds like maybe she didn't even do the birthday cause she was focused on mentally, psychologically torturing you the entire time.
Starting point is 00:50:16 This is nuts. When did she have time to go out and have dinner with friends based on what she was doing? Yeah, it sounds, and then to, I'm sorry, the way it was being described, I was like, this is what you hear in the Dateline episode and after they find his body. Like not to take it that extreme,
Starting point is 00:50:34 but like this is not well behavior. This is not someone who has, okay, no, I vote, I vote break up. I vote save yourself. I vote protect your dog and go move in with your sister for a little bit and her new husband. Well, that's like, there's so much added stuff here, right?
Starting point is 00:50:51 Like they share a dog together. So are they living together too? Like this is a very serious relationship. And for her to like do all of this, it's giving like narcissist who doesn't have the moment on her and she's doing everything she can to bring the attention back to her
Starting point is 00:51:09 and sabotage the other happy thing that's going on. Car, work emergency, dog emergency, sending food to the hotel. Sending, pretending to be himself to ask for, like I didn't get that. So she called the hotel pretending to be him saying that I have to, what was it, that I have to check out to go home for an urgent meeting?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Or something? Saying my presence was needed at home urgently. What are you trying to do with that? That sounds like it's trying to cancel his hotel reservation. Like, pretended to be me. My presence is needed at home urgently. I've said that when I have to leave places,
Starting point is 00:51:45 like, hey, I have to go, I have a family emergency for hotels and stuff, because I travel so much. And it's like, they really won't argue with a family emergency for the most part, any hotel really. And so it sounds like she was trying to cancel his hotel room while he was there. I thought she was leaving a message for him,
Starting point is 00:52:02 like on like the hotel room voicemail, like, oh, you can leave a message for someone. But pretending to be me. That makes more sense. She was trying to cancel his hotel. She was trying to cancel his hotel room. So he would have to come home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:13 That's deranged. Ma'am. That's deranged. That's insane. That's an episode of Dateline. That's a YouTube post-mortem. That's something's wrong. That's, I would exit this relationship.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Cause this is, she also, if it doesn't, does he say how long after that this has been going on for now since he's been home? No, doesn't mention it. It sounds like this is something that like for the rest, like at your wedding, she would bring up like to your sister or something like, oh yeah, I remember when he chose you over me
Starting point is 00:52:43 and now we're getting married. Like it sounds like. It's gonna go on forever. to your sister or something like, oh yeah, remember when he chose you over me and now we're getting married? It sounds like. It's gonna go on forever. The original post is 17 days old. This update is coming 10 hours ago. It's Tuesday. So if I'm envisioning this timeline,
Starting point is 00:52:58 I feel like the wedding was this past Saturday. So it's been four days, three days, four days. I, now you're a big old age of 21. Okay, you should know that. I know you got a few more years till your frontal lobe develops, but still. It's, no, I'd call it, I'd end it. It's not worth it. It's not worth it.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And this is what, a few days after, like it's not even like, it didn't even, like she didn't even let it fester. She was just immediately like, actually. I mean, just the comment, I guess family is more important than I am. That's crazy. Hope Jane's wedding was worth abandoning me.
Starting point is 00:53:36 He didn't abandon you. If this was anything but a birthday, if she had a surgery that he said, I will take care of you after the surgery. If this was, hey, our dog is getting surgery. Hey, I'm scared of being home alone and we're gonna have construction workers here. Any of that.
Starting point is 00:53:52 It's like anything else other than a birthday. I think I would be like, okay, I can get feeling hurt. Like, oh, we made this commitment. It's a birthday. It's a birthday. It's a birthday and his sister got married. And this is gonna be potentially your future sister-in-law. And you can't have any form of perspective.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah, no, no, I'm sorry. He's not the asshole. He's not the asshole, but he does need to get out of this relationship, I think. Absolutely. Top comment on the update. There are more red flags in Lisa's behavior than at a communist party meeting.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Get out while you can. Next comment down. More red flags than a minesweeper on hard. If that ain't the truth, that little game was a bitch. Communist party meeting. Damn, that person really, they popped off. They popped off. I'm concerned for him. I think he needs to go in a WITZEC. Yeah, it's, yeah, I think it's time. I think he's out, I think it's out. I think you tested your relationship, you tried. You tried.
Starting point is 00:54:54 This was the test that broke the camel's back because she couldn't have a birthday dinner with her friends and not you. Yeah, yeah, no, and then she, I don't know, it doesn't even sound like she did the birthday because there's no talk of the birthday. No, I'm trying to look at OP's comments to see if there's anything crucial we're missing.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Not any mention of breaking up yet. Well, it's been 10 hours. It's only been 10 hours. By the end of us recording, there will be an update. I know. OP does mention that she doesn't really have that many friends. She actually only has a few friends.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I mean, there are many, but they aren't that close with her. The reason she says is it's because of me. She keeps me in priority, so she eventually gives less time to her friends. That's not healthy. That's no. Okay. Yeah. Cut it. Cut it. Cause also that's putting pressure onto you to be her whole world because she has no support system outside of you. Yeah. Which is also just not healthy in general to not have any form of a support system outside of your partner. No, there is a comment OP responds to here. So someone says, that's emotional manipulation,
Starting point is 00:56:08 and once again, a red flag. And OP says, yeah, maybe. By the way, I ain't denying, so stop downvoting me. I don't know why, but I just fall for her so easily. Because she's hot, I'm assuming. Just sounds like toxic. It's that vicious cycle of just not a healthy relationship. He mentioned seducing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And so I'm just like, I need you to think without your penis for five minutes and think about the desire to stay out of a body bag. I need you to think with that mental, that elevated level of thinking of how can I get to tomorrow because this is concerning. And yeah, I would, I think ending this. The desire to stay out of a body bag, that is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Seriously, that is where we're inching towards. Yeah, these are not just like, this isn't like key or car, this is scary behavior, I think. Oh, I think this, even if they break up, I think he's gonna have to keep his head on a swivel for a while. Wish him the best. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:58:30 So please do not take this trigger warning lightly and skip ahead. Timestamps are in the description on YouTube if you want to just go to the next story. Okay, thank you. This is coming from our very own Too Hot Takes subreddit. Oh, it is titled, Am I the asshole for not letting my psychopath little sister see my dog?
Starting point is 00:58:50 There's a lot here. I'm going to go with no. For context, I, 25 female, recently moved out of my parents' house. My little sister, 13 female, has always stole my parents' attention and in numerous occasions has proven to have psychopathic behaviors. For example, she has killed numerous family pets. My dad always has wanted to punish her, but my mom defended her saying that, quote, she just didn't know any better. Now a year ago I got my first pet. His
Starting point is 00:59:23 name was Arlo. He was a golden retriever rescue dog, and he lived with me while I searched for apartments. He was about five years old, but he was my best friend. I have never been the one to have the biggest friend group, so taking Arlo out every day was what got me out of bed every morning. One day, I arrived at my parents' house after work, but I didn't hear Arlo's distinctive bark. I thought the worst. So I ran to my room where Arlo was shaking and whining in agony. My sister had arrived after school and wanted to use Arlo as a pony, ending up in a broken spine. In summary, Arlo ended up being buried in our backyard a few hours later.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Again, my mom didn't do anything and said, quote, she's just a kid. Let her do what she wants. A few days ago, my maternal aunt gifted me a Labrador puppy, which I named Buzz. I posted a story on Instagram, but my family saw it. And now my mom can't stop texting me that my sister wants to meet him. I told her that she won't be seeing him anytime soon. My mom didn't stop insisting, so I ended up blocking her.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yesterday I woke up and my dog was barking at my face. Turns out my mom had taken my sister out of school so that she could meet my puppy. I didn't open the door, but a few minutes later my sister grabbed of school so that she could meet my puppy. I didn't open the door, but a few minutes later, my sister grabbed her school lunch, banging on my window and almost breaking it. I told my mom to control her daughter, but she didn't respond and only stood there, watching the chaos unload. I had to call the cops to get them to go away. My dog was terrified and I was too.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Am I the asshole? No, oh my God. Oh my God. Absolutely not. No, absolutely not. Oh my God. With, okay, my brother's not 13. He's 22, 23.
Starting point is 01:01:14 But I also, it would be, if he had done something, like I love my brother. If he had done something that, if anyone had done something that directly led to the harm of my dog, let alone me having to bury my dog a couple hours later. This is being recorded. You wouldn't find them.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Like you wouldn't find this human being anymore. This is a child, this is a 13 year old. But if this has happened to numerous pets and then to this person's pet as well, something is psychologically wrong with the child. At that point, forget even being a psychopath. I don't know if there's any other impulse control issues, anything else that might be attesting to this.
Starting point is 01:01:50 The fact that the mom is like actively like, no, no, no, this could end up in a situation where like this child ends up killing their mom. Like not to go so dramatic with this. You're gonna need to put a lot of trigger warnings on this section. This is horrific. Yeah, you might need a restraining order against trigger warnings on this section. This is horrific. Yeah, you might need a restraining order
Starting point is 01:02:07 against your sister at this point. And your mother, because your mother just, hey, I moved away, this is my dog, my sister killed my dog, and now I've moved away and I have a new puppy, and you are now going to force me to put my dog around my sister? No, no, That's insane. I'm blown away by this one like Why a 13 year old and then the mom just enabling her like ma'am?
Starting point is 01:02:33 Do you not see that your daughter just killed another family pet? Hey, you know five years old accidentally kills a goldfish That's a different story than 13 years old and trying to ride a golden retriever thinking. It's a goddamn horse Absolutely not. Hell fucking no. I'm so happy for OP that she's able to have her own apartment now and get out of this fucking house. And I think you are absolutely right. I think it is time for a restraining order.
Starting point is 01:02:57 These people are unhinged. The mom pulled her out of school so she can go meet this puppy. Because she was hoping that she would not be at her apartment, I bet. That's during the work day. That's during the school day. She was hoping that she would not be at her apartment, I bet. That's during the work day. That's during the school day. She was hoping her daughter would not be
Starting point is 01:03:08 at the apartment where the dog was. And what are they going to do, break in to meet this dog? It sounds like she was banging on the door with the lunchbox. Why is this mom so scared of giving her kid a consequence? You're going to be the reason she kills someone and then calls you to help hide the body. Are deranged.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Some parents are deranged. I don't talk to one of my parents. This is a total tangent. But like literally it's the same thing where it's like, oh no, okay, I need to make sure I keep my one kid happy because my other kid won't speak to me. It's like that same thing. So they would let other siblings get away with so much.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah, golden child versus scapegoat mentality. Yes, yes, fully. And so it's like, okay, well, but also I think there are so many parents, cause I've seen this so much now, especially as someone who was like cut off ties with the parent, there are parents who their whole goal in life is to only be seen as a good parent.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And so their whole thing, it's like, no, no, no. If I admit that they're doing something wrong, that's me failing as a parent. And it's like, but you're enabling this behavior to continue versus admitting that something is wrong. And it's like, your child needs therapy, your child needs psychological help of some sort. Cause also I'm really hung up on multiple family pets
Starting point is 01:04:09 being dead. Cause like that's a lot. And then, you know, also it sounds like, is this all over the sports fan of like, so she lost her first dog and then within a year she got the puppy. And so it's like, okay, so this child is either 12 or 13. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:04:26 This is a tween. This is a young teenager. You know, this is, that's insane. I mean, I think. To have a body count attached to your age at 13 is crazy. And I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm like, at what age do you know not to hurt animals? I think at 13 or 12, by that point, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Hey. Yeah, I feel like toddlers, we see these videos all the time of a toddler grabbing a cat too much, it's like, no, don't do that. Gentle hands, whatever. Yeah. You know, we see that all the time. By 13, you know the consequences of like life and death,
Starting point is 01:05:00 good and bad, maybe not fully like in your being, but you know, oh, if I hit the dog, it will hurt them. If I get on top of the dog, it will hurt them. Like you understand that part of that process a little bit. Dude, I wanted to get attacked by a dog so bad. I want a dog to just like run from the middle of nowhere on a street and just bite her. Yeah, I don't wanna wish harm on a child,
Starting point is 01:05:22 like a 13 year old, but at the same time, I'll wish harm. A bite, a bite. A bite something. Just a bite. I don't want to wish harm on a child, like a 13 year old, but at the same time, I'm like- I'll wish harm. A bite? A bite? A bite something. Just a bite. I'm not hoping she gets hit by a car,
Starting point is 01:05:29 but like I hope she gets bit by something to where she maybe respects animals a little more. To hurt a golden retriever to the point that she broke. Way good. I'm just like, I'm like, okay, I'm hearing myself now. I'm like, I'm unhinged. No, you're okay. I'm just so pissed.
Starting point is 01:05:44 I know, no, I'm, no, to hurt a dog to the point where it's like you broke their spine is, especially a golden retriever, they're big fucking dogs. Like that takes so much. That's so disgusting. Well, you know the dog was like trying to probably run away. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:03 And like, I know. But also the dog was like trying to probably run away. I know. And like, I know. But also the dog was five and probably, like she said he was from a shelter. So he probably was just like, oh no, I'm gonna get hurt again. Cause like, you don't know what this dog has been through before. I'm gonna start crying.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I know. Oh god. Fuck Amanda. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, I take it back. Yeah, this kid needs to get bit by a dog or something. Actually, I want this kid nowhere near a dog. I don't want this kid to get anywhere near the chance
Starting point is 01:06:27 for a dog to bite them because I want them to be away from animals for the rest of time. I wonder if that's something that you could actually get put on someone's driver's license. Like, you know, on the back of a driver's license, it's like, can't drive at night. Can't be around dogs. Can't be around animals.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Like, I wonder if that's something you could actually press charges and have that put on their record and then it's attached to them. Technically, yes, because it's kind of like, if someone's on parole or something, it's like, oh, you can't be seen around felons or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:06:56 That is something that they can, that could be a break in your parole or things like that. But it would come to the point of, I think, having to go to be convicted of something or be plead guilty point of, I think, having to go to like be convicted of something or be plead guilty to something, I think. Opinions to press charges. Top comment, you need to report this to the authorities. Your sister is abusing pets
Starting point is 01:07:15 and your parents are letting her. Next, they'll probably get another dog and she'll terrorize it. Please report them to animal shelters and or breeders in the area so they can't get another dog. And put cameras around your home. Make sure your doors and windows are locked and don't tell your family where you take the dog for walks
Starting point is 01:07:32 and don't take the dog to family events because your sister will hurt him. Yeah. Yeah, it's, and that's the thing where it's like, sometimes I'm like, okay, I think some people are being paranoid because I'm very much a paranoid person. I fully am like, okay,
Starting point is 01:07:44 what's the worst possible case scenario? Let's operate as if that's true. I'm like, okay, I think some people are being paranoid, because I'm very much a paranoid person. I fully, I'm like, okay, what's the worst possible case scenario, let's operate as if that's true. You have evidence that your sister is a danger to pets. This isn't paranoia, this isn't, oh, she threw our cat one time and it landed on its feet. Like you have a direct, she rode him like a pony and it broke his spine and then we had to bury my dog. Like that is direct evidence that your sister is a violence,
Starting point is 01:08:07 is a terror to animals and is exhibiting psychopathic behavior. You absolutely need cameras. You need a restraining order, frankly, right at the bed, especially against your parents, because your parents are enabling that behavior and it's, especially if they, yeah, I agree, report them fully.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Honestly, I honestly want her to move and like not share the address. I've done that. I highly recommend it. Don't tell your parents that you're not in contact with that you, where you live. I'm full for it. Yeah, move and do not share.
Starting point is 01:08:33 So people are questioning, like you actually thought you were the asshole. And OP responds, I actually thought I might be because when speaking to my brother, who's in college by the way, he said that he agreed with me, but maybe it was too harsh on calling the cops. Sorry for not being specific.
Starting point is 01:08:50 There is a little bit of an edit that OP put in the comments. Hi, I just posted this a few hours ago, but I thought I might clarify a few things a lot of you asked me about. One, we live in south hemisphere and my little sister just got out of winter break from school. She's not on summer vacation until early December. Two, the pets that my sister had killed until now were numerous hamsters, fish, and a baby chick my brother got for his birthday.
Starting point is 01:09:18 I left Arlo at home locked in a space only I could access in the backyard. My mom slash sister somehow got the keys to the gate and my sister rode him in the backyard. Three, my dad is a pilot. That's why we don't see him around that often. From what I know, my dad is trying to get a divorce from her and full custody of my sister. Mm.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Four, before burying him, my dad did take Arlo to the vet with me where they discovered the spine injury. Then I confronted my mom where she admitted my sister sitting on his back. I'll update soon. I also bought a ring camera and I'm searching for a new apartment. Okay. Yay. Progress. Steps. Fantastic. No, but that makes more sense because I was like, the fact that he knew to go and hide in her room, like after he got out of the gate, after the sister hurt him. Yeah, like it's like, oh God, sorry.
Starting point is 01:10:08 I'm gonna start crying again. I know, this is just really, things are not okay. I told you. No, things are, you need trigger warnings on this whole thing. I do think you need to call someone. I think you need, especially because, regardless of whether or not your parents
Starting point is 01:10:21 are trying to get a divorce or your dad's not there or not, at this point, it's like, your sister needs psychological help. There needs to be a record of something because I think that's one thing. The last thing that you want is to hear, oh, well, the neighbor's dog, something happened to the neighbor's dog, but they don't know who.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And it's like, okay, but if you would put a record of this in, then they would know that your sister has a history of this. And it's like, I'm sorry, just because when she was younger, smaller animals, yeah, that makes sense. That is still a history of behavior of causing the death of a living thing. Fish, hamster, chick, doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:10:57 That's crazy. That's a lot of animals. Yeah, that's multiple hamsters. I mean, one goldfish, like, I get it, stuff happens. If you change the water too fast, they can blub up and die. Beta fish are crazy. My brother once put our beta fishes
Starting point is 01:11:11 in two separate tanks next to each other. My fish jumped out of the tank because it was trying to fight the other one. I was on a girl's- Beta fish are so nuts. They're so weird. They're so weird. What was crazy is when I- How do they even reproduce if they hate each other so much?
Starting point is 01:11:21 I don't know. It's so weird. How are they around still? It's insane. It's insane. I think you know, it's so weird. How are they around still? It's insane, it's insane. I think you need to report something. Absolutely, it's time. Get it attached to her little dumb ass record. Yeah, yeah, something. Or even like, I don't know, I don't know, eh,
Starting point is 01:11:35 Southern hemisphere, I don't know if that means Australia or like Mexico, Panama, something, yeah. But like, what if there's like a class pet or something? Like I would honestly tell the school. I would tell them. Maybe you don't want to take it to the stuff of calling the authorities, but like I would alert the school like,
Starting point is 01:11:52 hi, I am her sister. People need to be aware. Yeah. What if she goes to a friend's house with pets? Yeah. Like people need to be aware. This is not okay. But also at that point, when you go to the school, if it's something like that, I think,
Starting point is 01:12:06 well, at least here in the US, because usually they have to at least have a school therapist or something talk to someone. So at the very least, you would ensure that she is getting some form of professional help to some capacity. It sounds bad, there might, I don't know what child support, child protective services would be involved
Starting point is 01:12:23 in something like that. But something needs to be done because this is at the very least, your mother's enabling this insane behavior. She needs help. They all need help. But yeah, especially this little girl. I think that's a great idea
Starting point is 01:12:35 because schools are also mandated reporters. Typically, again, we don't know exactly where it is. Southern hemisphere is very broad. Yeah, and so I'm hoping that if OP did report to the school or keep like going down this track of like reporting to the police to get a restraining order and all of these things, like someone within that system systems would have a way to get this little girl some psychiatric help. Wow.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay, getting, going away from this. I need some liquid. I know. God, there's no other updates on the account. Last comment from OP was 20 days ago, so we will keep our eyes peeled, everyone.
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Starting point is 01:14:54 Too Hot To Take subreddit. It is titled, am I the asshole? My husband has ruined my birthday two years in a row. And this was the last straw in our marriage. Ooh. My husband, 29, and I, 32, have been married for eight years. We have four boys ages four and under, so our life is extremely busy. I'm a stay-at-home mom who babysits other children for money, and I'm in school full
Starting point is 01:15:21 time. My husband works seven to one Monday through Friday and does nothing to help around the house and spends little to no time with our boys. I take care of our boys, the house, and everything in between while in school. So my downtime is little to none. Well, last year my husband completely forgot
Starting point is 01:15:40 about my birthday and I had to tell him at 3 p.m. that he forgot about it. And I got a pity party dinner that was crap because the kids were just screaming the whole time while he sat there and enjoyed his meal and left me to the mess. Well today is my birthday and all I asked for was a break. I didn't even want to go out to dinner because I knew it was just going to be me trying to keep the children chill and quiet while out. So instead, I asked for a break and to order in dinner so I had literally nothing to do. Well, he gets off of
Starting point is 01:16:12 work, comes home, and just goes to sleep. He left me to deal with the kids. On top of it, I had to do our budget just to see if we could afford dinner and grabbing the food. Ended up just making the boys dinner and that's it. So then he calls me petty and a child because I didn and grabbing the food. Ended up just making the boys dinner and that's it. So then he calls me petty and a child because I didn't make him food. I also refuse to talk to him and I'm done giving in to talking it out because he is never wrong. Our marriage is already shitty with infidelity, he belittles me, and the way he treats me is honestly terrible. But I'm trying to at least stick it out until I have a degree and can support my boys.
Starting point is 01:16:48 But I don't know how much longer I can take it anymore and being treated this way. But am I the asshole for this being my last straw? No, because I think that this is, again, I don't think you're the asshole, because I think that this is the story we hear all the time of guys being like, I don't know why she wants to divorce, everything was fine. And it's like that tolerable level of unhappiness
Starting point is 01:17:09 that they see in women a lot with marriages. And it sounds like, yeah, the day to day is what's driving you crazy, but you asked for one thing for your birthday and he couldn't give you that. And then he made it his problem by being like, you were being petty because you didn't make me food. That's insane.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Like did he forget again that it's her birthday? And no, I think it just, he doesn't care about her. He thinks I don't have to do anything cause he's never had to is what it sounds like. It's the day to day, it's everything. And then I'm sorry, the, she brushed past the infidelities a lot. I know.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Which I was like, That's a reason alone. Like, no, you don't deserve that. That and then it's, yeah, because he doesn't, it's like, no, it's not a big deal. You're making a big deal out of the fact that I cheated on you. It's like, oh, it was this, it was one time.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Like it was whatever. And it's like, no, no, no, that's added up. And it's everything together. So yes, this is the breaking point because it's like, no, no, no, I'm done. It's the one dinner. It's the one tube of toothpaste not being replaced. It's usually something small like that,
Starting point is 01:18:09 but it's not that. You know? It just finally, I think you have those moments where after suffering for so long, after making excuses or putting up with it, you have that one moment. Of clarity. That just takes the blinders off.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And you're finally like, it's that hallelujah moment where it's just like, and you just see everything for what it actually is. No, this person doesn't love me because if they did, they would help with the kids. Why did he even want kids? He's not a participant in their life at all. When he explained, when she said the ages, I started doing math in my head.
Starting point is 01:18:48 I was like, this sounds suspicious. Cause they were boys under four. Yeah. And then she's been pregnant for the last four years. Constantly getting pregnant immediately after that waiting period. Yeah. That's so stressful.
Starting point is 01:19:03 The stress on your body alone. And then trying to finish up school while doing that. And babysitting other kids for extra money. Like, what isn't she doing? Yeah, no, I'd leave him. I'm sorry. I'd leave him in a heartbeat. She's a single parent as it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:17 All it would be is that you would, it sounds bad. If anything, you would force him to be an active participant because a judge might mandate it. Yeah. Yeah. Who is going to take care of the kids if you have 50-50 custody? If anything, you would force him to be an active participant because a judge might mandate it. Yeah, yeah. Who is gonna take care of the kids if you have 50-50 custody? He's responsible for those kids then.
Starting point is 01:19:33 There's no one there to step in. You're not gonna be there. That's like, I know this shouldn't be the reason why guys step up or other parents step up, but you look at that first story we had where he's like, my girlfriend's not acting like a girlfriend, I now have to take care of my kid. This is the same thing.
Starting point is 01:19:52 You're gonna have to take care of your kid. Be a good partner, be in it 50-50, otherwise you're gonna have to be 100%, 50% of the time. And I'll tell you right now, you're always gonna get it easier with another person in that house with you. Come on. Yeah, I don't think you're the asshole.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I think it might feel, I'm assuming she's feeling guilty and petty about like, am I overthinking this birthday thing? But it's not the birthday thing. I hope one day you realize that, that it's not the birthday thing, but it's just what. I hope you find a lovely therapist who helps you work through some of these feelings.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And I hope you find a great divorce lawyer. Fantastic one. I'm so mad. And I'm sure she loves her kids, but four under four just sounds like such a handful. Oh gosh. I went to go see if there's any other comments from OP and someone was like,
Starting point is 01:20:44 please don't have any more kids with him. And OP does share one positive, we are both snipped, so not possible, thankfully. Just never have sex with him again, though, honestly. Why? Why? He doesn't deserve it.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Yeah, also, how do we know if he could be lying about being snipped? I don't know. I don't trust this man at all. I don't trust him. Top comment, you don't have four kids, you have five. The oldest one is just an entitled man baby. He is completely selfish and has no respect for you at all. Think about it like this. If he was gone, would you have more work around the house or less?
Starting point is 01:21:17 If the answer is less, then you don't have a partner. I'm sorry. Yeah, I agree. I think you again, it's I think so much of, you know, especially situations like this. It's like it's the the birthday is making you realize like you're recontextualizing everything you've been through. Yeah. And it's like it's questions like that. What happens to your like, would it be easier for you to go through school? If you were divorced?
Starting point is 01:21:42 Would it be easier for you at this point? No, because you're not taking care of a fifth kid? Well, and it's like, he honestly sounds like he's got great hours. He works Monday to Friday, seven to one. Yeah. Come home, take a power nap, but still spend time with his family. Yeah. And then get good sleep and no weekends.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Like, this sounds amazing. And yet he's not contributing. Yeah, no. Again, lemonade style bat to the PlayStation. No, it's one of those things as well. Cause it's like, it's not so much 50, like what's an equitable work. Like, you know, it's like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:22:20 if I was with someone and they worked crazy hours, of course I'm gonna end up doing more of the housework because they're gone all the time, you know? And I work from home, like that just makes sense. But it's like, yeah, he's home, you're in school, and she's doing extra work on the side and he's dicking around like it's ridiculous. And on her birthday.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Yeah, so I get it, I get it. It's funny, there's a birthday theme happening here. I know. Do you realize that? That like happens every episode. I feel it. It's funny, there's a birthday theme happening here. Do you realize that? We have, that happens every episode. I feel like I pick a theme, but there's secretly another underlying theme. I kind of love how they come about. Yeah, he's not swell.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I hope you leave him. Yeah, we don't have any updates yet. I mean, this is really fresh. This is- Do you ever comment on your own subreddit? Oh yeah, Oh yeah. Sometimes I can't hold back. And if you're listening, divorce.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Divorce, divorce. Divorce. Divorce. Think about it this way as well. Cause I, as someone whose parents are divorced, okay. I think a lot of people like to think like, oh, kids are young, especially having four under four. I think people think like, oh, these kids don't realize
Starting point is 01:23:22 like how bad that I'm unhappy, that the marriage is unhappy, whatever. I think kids internalize a lot more than people realize. And so I think you'd rather, would you rather your kids see you unhappy and stressed out constantly, or alone not taking care of their father as well. And the chance for both of you to be happy, honestly,
Starting point is 01:23:44 because he's happy because you're unhappy right now is what it sounds like, and that's no way to go through life. No, and I think honestly, maybe he's trying to push her to the edge of like, ah, well, it won't be my fault then if she asks for a divorce. Like he could be instigating this. And I think you make a great point that like,
Starting point is 01:24:04 yes, they are under four, but kids are so intuitive. And a comment here kind of piggybacks off what you're saying. I'm also concerned about the example he's showing her boys. It won't be long until they start imitating him and treating her the same way. She should get out before that starts taking root. Cause they're all boys, right? All boys.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Four boys is crazy. Were you hoping for a girl? Cause I feel like they probably were. At that point, and I get it's expensive, but like I would just want to Petri dish it. Like I'm not taking no chances. Adoption. Adoption's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Yes. No, it's yeah, you, that's the risk you take. I think as well as it's like kids start mimicking. I'm sure she sees this as well. Like that's why she's the one that has, he's, it's kind of like that one, there was this one clip, I think perfectly exhibits this. And it was a girl and a guy eating dinner.
Starting point is 01:24:59 And it's like, they have the dogs in the living room with them while they're eating on the couch. And it's like, oh, can you tell which one of us shares food with the dogs? And it's like, she's eating no problem. And the dogs are just staring there like him, like all up in a space waiting for him to give them a piece of pizza. And it's like the same thing.
Starting point is 01:25:14 It's like they know they're not gonna get attention from their dad at dinner. That's why you have to be wrangling them the entire time. And so he's able to eat no problem. And that's going to flip at some point where they will see this behavior and see the standoffishness. And that's going to flip at some point where they will see this behavior and see the sendoffishness. And it's like, what type of kids
Starting point is 01:25:29 do you want your kids to grow into? What type of adults do you want them to grow into? Do you want them to grow into someone like their father? And if the answer is no, I think you need a divorce. Yeah. I think you need a divorce. I would say immediately, because someone does point out here,
Starting point is 01:25:42 and I don't know how true this is. I'm not a child psychologist, whatever. But someone does point out here, and I don't know how true this is, I'm not a child psychologist, whatever, but someone does say, some things are pretty set by age six. I would want them away from him well before that. So it's like, we're kind of in a crucial window here. There are little sponges, they're soaking it all up. It's time.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Yeah, absolutely. And I understand like, you know, she might not have the luxury of being able to do it on her own, but you might, you might actually. She basically is though. It sounds like he's contributing a paycheck, which I know is a lot. That's not nothing, but like he's not contributing anything emotionally. No, but also like, you know, if you do get divorced, hopefully the judge will allocate
Starting point is 01:26:23 a decent amount of child support. Maybe you'll get spousal support based on his income. You have the babysitting other kids for money and you're going to be done with school hopefully very soon. Like I get that sometimes leaving a bad situation is, you know, it's not always accessible because of financial abuse or finances. But I think, I think it can be done here like you are a Hustler it sounds like you're really trying to make your your way in life And I I think you could yeah could do this and if you're in a communal property state 5050 You don't need a prenup. Hey, you should get a prenup still. I'm probing up but But yes, like California is a 5050 state split down the middle pretty much
Starting point is 01:27:03 So it's like you wouldn't leave with nothing for the most part. I don't know about what state you're in, obviously, but yeah, pro-divorce. Pro-divorce. We're gonna have to keep our eyes peeled on this one. Please update us, OP, if you're out there listening. Wishing you so well, because you truly do deserve it.
Starting point is 01:27:22 This is unacceptable, unacceptable. Think about it this way. Do you want him in your graduation photos when you graduate school? Do you want him in those photos? Do you just want your kids in those photos? Think about that. Cause I think that's a good barometer too.
Starting point is 01:27:32 It's like, would you feel cheated if he was in those photos with you and he hasn't supported you at all? Yeah, because it's like, you're taking away my day, my shine on my day. You did nothing to help get me here. Fuck you. This is why you go watch Amanda's stuff.
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Starting point is 01:29:23 but I think he's only doing it so he can look at my daughter Okay, or Am I the asshole for not giving my sister who eloped as generous as a gift as my sister who had a traditional wedding? Hmm. I'm gonna judge both people but And you just know people are out there just screaming, Amanda, pick number, blank. Okay, I want, there's a child safety at risk. So we're gonna do the first one.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Okay. Okay. We're gonna focus on that one versus the, especially cause I mentioned aopecia earlier on. You know, and we've had some wedding ones already. Yeah, we've done some weddings. Okay. I think this is gonna be.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Yeah, the first one, the first one. Okay. So this post is coming from r slash advice. Okay. Again titled, I've been spending time with a good friend more recently, but I think he's only doing it so he can look at my daughter.
Starting point is 01:30:25 The last few months, I've been chatting to a friend more regularly than previous. We've been friends for over a decade, and we used to be really close, but we slowly drifted apart. I should probably mention that we are both men in our 40s. It's been great catching up with him, and honestly, I really needed a friend, so it's just been great. He's got a long-term girlfriend and two young children. A couple of months ago we visited his house for the first time. He recently moved and
Starting point is 01:30:53 we weren't speaking much before that, just an occasional comment on Facebook. And me, my 14-year-old son and 20-year-old daughter spent a few hours honestly just chatting about nothing but in a good way, you know. While we were there I noticed that he kept looking at my daughter out of the corner of his eye. I never really caught him fully looking so I didn't think much of it especially as he has known my kids for over a decade. I didn't mention it to my daughter as I didn't want to make her feel uncomfortable if it was nothing. A couple of months went past and we visited them again.
Starting point is 01:31:29 He kept talking to my daughter and not really me, which is fine, but it just seemed odd when my daughter has really bad anxiety and she can't really hold a conversation and she makes it clear when she's uncomfortable talking. He just seemed to keep looking at her and talking. Even if he was talking to me, he would just look at her. The final straw was last week. We visited them and we've been having a heatwave, so we were all dressed in as minimal as possible. My daughter in a thin pair of skorts and a t-shirt. My son in a pair of athletic shorts and a gym top, and me in a polo shirt and white chino shorts.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Nothing unusual, just basic summer wear. When we were all in conversation, he would look at my daughter. When anyone told a joke, he would smirk a little or give a small laugh depending. But if my daughter told something mildly funny, he would really laugh to the point that even she would look awkward. He kept dropping out of conversation and just staring at her. I think she noticed it as well because she started to lean back in her chair to try to cover herself even though she was fine. She looked uncomfortable. Then when the sun set she put on a thick jacket and zipped it up. I don't know if he's just trying to be friendly and he doesn't know how to act or if he's only inviting us around to
Starting point is 01:32:52 stare at her and if so, then I don't know what to do. Yes, she's 20, but she's still my little girl and this man watched her grow up. It just seems strange. I don't know if I should say something or just don't go there again. Either way, I think it's the end of the friendship, which is a shame, but oh well. Okay. Because like I'm really, my dad is one of my best friends, you know, and he's in his 50s now, I'm 26, you know, and he has a lot of older friends. And I've, especially when I used,
Starting point is 01:33:30 before I was a YouTuber and that was like my full-time job, I did videography and editing work for his like events and things like that. And so without fail, because it would be like a lot of strangers, a lot of startup people, they would just make comments about, oh, you've got all these hot young people working for you.
Starting point is 01:33:45 And it's like, cool, I'll tell my daughter and my girlfriend's niece that you said that. Like, I'll be sure to tell them you said that. And then I would hear comments like, too bad, that's his daughter, and things like that throughout the event afterwards. And people then still would be like, oh, are we gonna get a beer after this?
Starting point is 01:33:58 I'm like, no. Like, I would be like 20. I'd be 20, 19, whatever, making comments to me like this throughout the time. Like, too bad, that's his daughter. And it's like, and I would be like 20, I'd be 20, 19, whatever, making comments to me like this throughout the time. Like too bad that's his daughter. And it's like, and I would tell my dad, I'm like, hi, you need to say something or I will. And I have anxiety, but not when it comes
Starting point is 01:34:14 to weird older men, okay? I will fully make you feel uncomfortable. She clearly is not that way. And so before he does anything else, I would first talk with my daughter. I would not with your son there, not in a group setting, maybe, hey, let's do a little father daughter ice cream day. Let's go out, let's go do something.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Because she clearly lives at home or something at the very least, which is very common these days to be 20 and living at home, I think. And I would just bring it up. It's like, oh, hey, what do you think of, don't bring it up, do you have a weird vibe? I mean like that, but I would be like, how do you feel about, like, don't bring it up, like, do you have a weird vibe? I mean, like that, but I would be like, how do you feel about, you know, so and so,
Starting point is 01:34:47 he wants to like do dinner again soon. Like, how do you feel about him? Like, are you, do you guys, do you guys, do you and your brother like hang out with him? Have you heard your brother say anything? Maybe put it on like the brother, the son, something like that, you know? And yeah, I would, I would bring it up to the daughter
Starting point is 01:35:01 because if she, if you are clocking that your daughter is uncomfortable, then I think as a parent, regardless of how old she is, you need to do something. You need to say something. You know, if you just want to like not be friends anymore, and it's just that, totally cool. But like, I think you have a duty to, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:16 at the very least check in with your daughter and protect your daughter. Yeah, absolutely. Especially because if you're both in your 40s and she's 20, like, it doesn't matter that she's an adult. Clearly you are clocking, she is uncomfortable. There is anxiety, there is a power imbalance. And this man is also married with kids.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Even if it's not something like, oh, I'm actively pursuing something, he's like, oh, well, I get to go see my friend, I get to go stare at his hot daughter, is what it seems like at the very least, which is weird. That's the thing. I'm with you. I think he needs to talk to her because if he is clocking it, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Yeah. Automatically. I think a lot of stuff can fly under the radar and I don't want to generalize too much, but I would say because of things that typically women will go through in terms of hearing comments or fearing for their safety or being followed, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We are more aware of stuff. We have more of our head on a swivel. We might trust our gut a little bit more on those things.
Starting point is 01:36:18 So the fact that this guy is picking it up. First off, you're a good dad for blocking this by the way and acknowledging that your daughter's uncomfortable because I have seen a lot of instances where it's like, oh, your daughter's clearly uncomfortable and you're doing nothing. Nothing, they will even feed into it sometimes. So the fact that he is clocking it,
Starting point is 01:36:33 I think shows how bad it actually is. He might even be downplaying it in here. And the fact that she's wearing skorts and a T-shirt, a T-shirt, and she still feels the need to put a thick jacket on and zip it up. Yeah. Clearly uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Yeah. Clearly. And also like how often do dads clock what their daughters are wearing? Like you clock that enough to know that it was something that just because she was uncomfortable. Yeah. Like it's hot and it's summer, you're all wearing like clothes and you clock that you put on a jacket.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Yeah. She clearly felt exposed. She felt uncomfortable. Absolutely. You acknowledge that she was dressed fine, which is irrelevant, obviously. It doesn't matter how she was dressed. But, and then also, I'm sorry, does he have kids
Starting point is 01:37:10 and he's just hanging out with you guys without his kids? Is what it sounds like. I know it's interesting, because he mentions he has two young children, long-term girlfriend. I don't know if they're running around. I don't know if it's just you. I also like that you're including your kids
Starting point is 01:37:24 and kind of making this a family outing, but I'm surprised the daughter hasn't found an excuse to not go, and not that that should be on her by any means, but I'm just, I'm mystified, I think, by the whole situation. Yeah. But I think definitely talk to your daughter privately in a, I think in a public place versus doing it at home. You know, not like it sounds, I know that makes, sounds counterintuitive, like and I think in a public place versus like doing it at home, you know, like not like it sounds,
Starting point is 01:37:46 I know that makes sounds counterintuitive, like own a private place like at home or something like that. But like, I think it's like, oh no, like let's go do something fun, let's go get ice cream, let's go get a coffee, you know, something like that, whatever, like just the two of you. So it's like, no pressure really. I love that.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Yeah, cause it's like, maybe she doesn't know if you'll like be like, because she could tell you something that could be upsetting. You don't know if like maybe he has tried messaging her on Facebook or has tried contacting her privately. That's the thing that my would be my concern. It's like, this is what he's doing in front of you. What could he be doing when he thinks
Starting point is 01:38:19 she won't tell you something? And she could maybe, because she knows you, this is your friend. She may be worried to tell you something. Oh, you're, cause she knows you, this is your friend, she may be worried to tell you something. And then maybe just something like, oh, I know we've been spending a lot of time with so and so, are you okay with that?
Starting point is 01:38:34 How do you and your brother like him? And then maybe kind of flip it as like, you would tell me if something, like if there was something going on. Yeah, I honestly, I feel like knowing him and he seems like such a good dad. I think he could have like a very serious conversation. Like I love this coffee or ice cream make it feel like no pressure. But I would say, hey, like I just want to let you know, like I've been kind of getting
Starting point is 01:38:59 a weird vibe from Dan. Yeah, I'm probably not going gonna continue my friendship with him. Do not feel that this is on you, but I've been feeling uncomfortable. I've kind of noticed his behavior being a little weird. What are your thoughts on that? And see where she takes it. Because, I mean, there have been Reddit stories
Starting point is 01:39:20 where we do have the daughter start dating a dad's friend, or we do have this girl who's young in her 20s date her friend's dad. We've had these stories. So we don't know if this is something she likes or if she's feeling uncomfortable and maybe just got awkward that her dad might be seeing it. So we don't really know.
Starting point is 01:39:42 So I think OP could really just be like, I'm getting weird vibes. Like, what are your thoughts? And really just- As your father, I've noticed this and I've seen how you react. I just wanna make sure you're good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Are you okay? Do you feel safe? I don't want you to keep going over to his house if you feel uncomfortable. I don't want him in my home where you live. If you feel like the last thing I wanna do as your father is make you feel uncomfortable, bring someone into your space that you're not happy with, please let me know. I think that's first and foremost, you got to talk to your daughter, I think.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Absolutely. Top comment on this post. Trust your gut. It sounds like this guy's around for all the wrong reasons. Also, who just stares at someone like that as the whole situation seems creepy and way out of line. Definitely best to keep your kids safe around this guy and cut off contact. At least that's what I would do. Next comment, even if you want to say it's no big deal, it looks like a big deal to your daughter and she always comes first. You know what to do. Next comment down, why not hang out with your friend without your kids? If he has no interest in that, then you would know his intentions.
Starting point is 01:40:48 That is a good test because it doesn't sound like, like it just sounds like, oh yeah, we're back in the same area. So we started hanging out again. Like it does seem like this is one of those, what I call circumstantial friendships. It's like the class, the friendships you have in school, like, oh, it's like, oh yes, in this period,
Starting point is 01:41:00 we are best friends because our desk right next to each other. But after graduation, we will never see each other again. You know, it's kind of like, oh yeah, we're back in the same area, so we're friends again. If he doesn't want to just go to the gym or go get coffee with you or whatever, throughout like, oh, I'm going to work, can we go do this?
Starting point is 01:41:13 Sure. If he's not gonna do that because your daughter's not there, you know something is wrong. Then you know. Yeah, you know. Immediately. And immediately run.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Yeah. Immediately. We have an update. Oh God, okay. All right. I haven't read it. Okay. I did not know. Oh, God. Okay. All right. I haven't read it. Okay. I did not know it existed until I just searched.
Starting point is 01:41:30 All right. Let's do it. So this original post is 10 days old. Getting into his comments is how I found this update. And it looks like the update is coming two days later. So the update is eight days old. Okay. Update from my last post.
Starting point is 01:41:46 I spoke to my daughter about the whole thing and wanted to know what she thought about it all because I didn't want to say anything if she didn't think it was odd. She told me that after the first time we saw him again, a few months ago, he had appeared outside of her work after she finished her shift and asked if she wanted to lift home
Starting point is 01:42:04 instead of getting the bus. No, no, I'm sorry. With love, my dad's gonna hate me for saying this. My dad has this thing where if anything ever happened to me, he said, I would just make sure that I wasn't in the state when it happened to Amanda. Like he would just make sure that something would happen to this person and they would not,
Starting point is 01:42:20 and he would not be in the state when it did happen. This would be one of those times. If he found out that his friend was doing things like this. How does she know where she works? How does he know when she gets done? He's been sitting out there, he's been stalking her. How does he know she takes the bus? I get this could have all came up very innocently
Starting point is 01:42:39 during conversation after the first time. No, the first time, that's what's getting me. It's not like it's like, oh yeah, no, we've been- You don't have a relationship. No, this is stalker, crazy scary. This is scary, this is scary. Oh, I just don't even, oh my God, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:55 She said that since he was a good friend of mine, she's trusted him and got in the car. On the ride home, he repeatedly touched her leg and started talking about how much she's changed since he saw her last before we all met up and how much of an adult she looks like now. Okay. I feel sick.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Okay. I love my dad. He would hit you with a car. He would hit this man with a car. Yeah, and he would go nuts. My dad, it would be a problem. It would be, oh my God. My dad, my dad really pops off.
Starting point is 01:43:30 I don't know any of these people. I would do this. If I was, if I, oh God, if I was your coworker, I would hit this man with my car. Like I would, oh my God. My dad on, and my dad's show is like very, we try to keep him like contained. But he would say this man should get his dick hit
Starting point is 01:43:47 with a hammer. Yeah, yeah. He needs to be, what's that big word for? Castrated? Yes. He needs to be castrated. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Okay. Okay, oh God, there's more. Is it too late to add a trigger warning? Like please, if you get uncomfortable with any stuff of like, I don't know what's coming. Of me wishing harm on grown 40 year old men who are preying on a 20 year old. I don't care what anyone says
Starting point is 01:44:13 cause someone's gonna harp on the fact that she's 20. Yeah. I don't care. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. She's 20 and the dad has made it very clear that she is uncomfortable with talking with people. She clearly has some social anxiety. She clearly is being put in a position that she, she even says,
Starting point is 01:44:26 because he is such a good friend of my dad, I trusted him. That is how, that's how predators go after. I, mm. He's a predator. Go ahead. If you find that any, maybe, I don't know what's in front of us.
Starting point is 01:44:37 I really don't. So if you are maybe uncomfortable with talks of borderline grooming or potential essay, please just skip to the palate cleanser now because it's not gonna be good, okay? So he told her she's growing into her body, quote, like a good girl. My daughter said that she would walk the rest of the way home
Starting point is 01:45:00 because she didn't want to put him out too much, but he insisted on driving her all the way. She said she kept moving away from him, but he was leaning to touch her knees. She said that at a red light, not long before the house, he gave her his mobile number and texted himself from her phone and told her to call him if she ever wanted a lift or quote anything else. Then when she got home, she went to leave the car, but he grabbed her arm and asked her where his hug and kiss goodbye was.
Starting point is 01:45:33 Not a new thing, he gives us all a hug every time. And when she leaned in, he held her tight and whispered that she should call him. I want to vomit. Ugh. okay, continue. Go ahead. In the last few months since then, he has repeatedly been sending her explicit texts and images and waiting outside of her work asking her if she would like a lift home. Even though every time she's said no. She said she didn't want to say anything because she didn't want to upset me as he was the only friend I had. I feel sick thinking about this. This is my daughter.
Starting point is 01:46:10 She's 20, but she's still my little girl, and I feel like I've put her in danger. I've messaged him asking him to stop contacting my family, and I've sent him the screenshots from her phone as reasons why. But he is messaging me asking me why when she is an adult and the only sleazy thing he's done is cheat on his girlfriend. As my daughter never physically said the words stop, she just ignored him. I'm so angry at him and myself.
Starting point is 01:46:40 I'm like shaking. I, okay, I'm gonna be put on a watch list. I'm definitely shaking. I, okay, I'm gonna be put on a watch list. I'm definitely on several because of the content I've made. Yeah, no. Oh God. I am so angry. Send it to his girlfriend, send it to his ex-wife.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Send all the screenshots. Hey, this is what he was doing to my daughter. Honestly, I understand wanting to protect your daughter and not wanting to make it public. So like, don't post it publicly. I know you're obviously posting about this here, but like the messages you should tell his girlfriend, you should tell his ex-wife,
Starting point is 01:47:11 because like, not to say that he would do anything to his own children, but like, this is someone who is making engaging predator behavior. I also think depending on where he works, like it might be justifiable to notify his work. Like I would say like, if this man is a high school teacher, yes, this is a 20 year old, but he's almost finding the perfect victim,
Starting point is 01:47:31 that plausible deniability. Oh, well, she's 20. She's legal, she never said no. So if- If it's not a yes, it's a no, okay? It's, mm, and also again, uh, I feel so bad for this girl because she clearly felt like she couldn't tell her dad.
Starting point is 01:47:47 This is your only friend, dad. I didn't want to upset you. Yeah, I thought, yeah. Oh God, oh God. Poor thing. Oh God, it's, oh God. I'm so upset. I'm so angry.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Oh my God. Oh my God. I know. I didn't, I... Oh my God. Oh my God. I know. I didn't, I... It's like, again, waiting outside of her work.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Honestly, I think you have enough, especially if there's a pattern of behavior with these messages. I don't know if you, if she, if he, cause okay. So he's saying- She could press charges maybe. She could press charges. She could probably get a restraining order.
Starting point is 01:48:24 I think so. He continues to show up at her charges. She could probably get a restraining order. I think so. He continues to show up at her work. She could definitely get a restraining order. Especially because now that you're saying, stay with my daughter, I would send, I would either have her say something. I would contact the police. Or something from her phone saying,
Starting point is 01:48:35 please stop contacting me. And I forget the police, fuck the police. But like, I don't want this. You need to stop contacting me. Something needs to be in writing on her end, I think. For it to classify for a restraining order. But there's a level of intimidation happening here and there's messages and there's photos
Starting point is 01:48:51 and things like that. And it's like, oh, just ignoring him. Still, it doesn't matter. There needs, I wanna hit someone with a car. Oh God. So bad. Okay, well, I did not think this was going to turn out into this. Like the original, no, the original was trending on my like for you page on Reddit. And so I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 01:49:14 like, it's just going to be a good one based on the title. And here we have like, just a abundance of cluster fuckity chaos. Yeah. So top comment on this update, send it all to his girlfriend and both of you warn him to cease and desist or you will notify authorities. And someone else goes, it's not your fault but you need to have a sit down and talk through the socialization for women to be nice
Starting point is 01:49:38 and how to get past that mental block. This is something a lot of us go through and it puts us in really awful situations. Help her understand that her safety is the most important thing. She doesn't have to be nice or put up with things like this. There's probably some very eloquent people who can speak to this topic on YouTube. It's not me, but I want to make sure she knows she doesn't have to take this shit for the rest of her life, even with the anxiety and desire to not rock any boats.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Also, it's not me, it's their comment. No, I know. But I will say, everyone, I hope you're listening, do not put yourself in situations that make you feel bad, uncomfortable. Not even that. You do not have to appease anyone. Do not feel like you have to stay in a situation
Starting point is 01:50:20 when you are uncomfortable. It doesn't matter if it's a date, it doesn't matter if it's a friend of a friend, it doesn't matter if it's a date, it doesn't matter if it's a friend of a friend, doesn't matter if it's a friend's boyfriend, your parents' friends, if you are uncomfortable, there is a reason for that. And you'd rather leave and have it be nothing later, you know, than potentially stay in a bad situation.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Honestly, I would encourage this father to maybe encourage his daughter to speak to someone that's a professional, maybe therapy, something, even just like a one or two off, you know, sessions or something, just to talk through this with someone like, like clearly, I'm glad that she felt comfortable with talking with him once he brought it up to her. But like, there may even be more that we don't know about that he doesn't know about, you know, other even maybe other people. Yeah, because this is, and that's something where I think like she may feel empowered just talking to a professional. That's a great, great, great comment.
Starting point is 01:51:10 There is a response to that one where OP says, I've told her many times growing up that if she doesn't feel comfortable doing something, no matter what it is, then she needs to say that. It doesn't matter if it upsets someone or offends someone. All that matters is that she is safe and comfortable. I'm hoping that she will be like this from now on and I just hope that she knows I'm here for her no matter what. Also there's an update to the post. Thank you for your comment." So OP does have an edit.
Starting point is 01:51:38 I'm so scared. I know. Oh god. Okay. I'd like to say thank you to everyone for the advice. I've also been getting a lot of mom comments. And although I appreciate the sentiment very much, I am her dad. Unfortunately, her mom passed away quite a few years ago, but I really appreciate that everyone thought I was her mom. Why did I assume dad? No, I assume you said, he said my daughter, male,
Starting point is 01:52:03 born to something. Like he said, he ain't made it clear he was the dad I was like wait, did I make the wrong assumption? I think I think when things are discussing like friends, friends being weird or things like that. I think it's because like when you're a single parent I think the assumption for a lot of people is that it's a single mom. Interesting. Unfortunately, her mom passed away quite a few years ago, but I really appreciate everyone that thought I was the mom. It really is the biggest compliment to me.
Starting point is 01:52:27 I must be doing something right. We went and spoke to our local police and they couldn't really help us as she had willingly gotten into his car. They did say that as we have spoken to him already, they could keep an open file and if it continues, then they would be able to take action. Honestly, it seems that they don't really care about it
Starting point is 01:52:44 at all, which is alarming and upsetting. Unfortunately, as someone who has tried to get a restraining order against a parent specifically, it is something that is unfortunately very difficult, especially in California, I was straight up told, well, they don't have a gun, so we can't get you a restraining order. It's like they have physically tried to strangle me.
Starting point is 01:53:03 What do you mean? It's like, but because I didn't have marks, because I hadn't reported them prior to that, you'd rather have a record of something so that if it does consist, persist, you can further the report and get a restraining order. But unfortunately, yeah, I obviously this is, I don't know if this is California, I don't know where this is, but I, you'd rather have a record of something than, okay, well, he hasn't done anything and they told me it's not worth it. You'd rather press the issue and be like,
Starting point is 01:53:28 no, I want an open file, I want something, I want this written down, I want it time-stepped, I want a record that I came and showed you this, I want you to have copies of these messages. Here's the address of where my daughter works, definitely tell her work, like, hey, if you see this man come in or be around- She needs to be walked to her car supervised, like a back exit. Something. Yes. I definitely think like,
Starting point is 01:53:50 if you get brushed off by the authorities, like tell them, like, I want you to note that you're brushing me off. Like this could be my life. Like how many women try to report a stalker or get a restraining order and end up dead. Like this could be my life. I want you to document this because if anything happens to me, it's on your fucking negligence. And don't say fucking, because they'll immediately just tune out.
Starting point is 01:54:13 But unfortunately if you start swearing, they do get mad. Like this is your negligence potentially costing me my life. So I want you to document that. Keep an open file. Like what do you have to lose? Couple more pieces of paper, couple more zeros and ones on the Yep. Keep an open file. Like what do you have to lose? Couple more pieces of paper. Yeah. Couple more zeros and ones on the computer.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Like keep a file. I'm sorry, my daughter's life is not worth your lunch break or whatever the fuck, you know, it's just, It's crazy. insane. We sent the screenshots and an explanation to his girlfriend and we've had some missed calls from him, but that's not our problem. We've blocked him on everything
Starting point is 01:54:43 and I've completely removed him from every social media. My daughter has spoken her work and they have said that until she's able to find another job they will ensure that at least one other member of staff will wait with her for the bus and I will be meeting her at the first stop in our town to take her directly home on days I am not working and on days I am then her grandparents will be picking her up. She is safe." That's good. I also had a lot of comments suggesting I get violent with this man. Although I do appreciate that a lot of people would be choosing the other route of resolving the problem face to face, I am not like that.
Starting point is 01:55:14 I'd like to say that there is no problem I can't solve that way, but that's simply not me. It doesn't make me a bad dad either. I found another way to solve the problem and make sure that my daughter is safe and comfortable. Thank you all for is safe and comfortable. Thank you all for your help and advice. It's nice to find some support through the internet sometimes. Yeah, and I think that that's the most important thing.
Starting point is 01:55:31 It's like they have found a way to do it that makes his daughter feel safe. That should always be the priority. Like as much, like the last thing that you want is, oh yeah, I am dealing with this, who I thought was my dad's friend has been being a predator towards me. And then now my dad's in jail
Starting point is 01:55:45 because he hit him with his car. That's the thing. We don't need a good guy behind bars. No, so this is why you hire someone to do it. No, I'm kidding. No, but it's a joke. We joke about castrating. We joke about hitting with the car or the hammer.
Starting point is 01:55:58 But like, this is probably the best route. Like I don't want him behind bars or him facing repercussions for something that this piece of shit. There's another minor child involved as well with his son. Yeah, he's gotta be there. He's a single parent. Mom's not with us anymore.
Starting point is 01:56:16 And he's gotta be there for his kids and this is the best way to do it. Yep. Wow. Yeah, we ended up on a really, really banger note there. Well, you ready for the palette cleanser? Yeah. Yeah. We ended up on a really, really banger note there. Well, you ready for the palette cleanser? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:29 So this was originally posted in r slash metal detecting. Okay. And it's titled. Of course there's a metal detecting subreddit. I know it's so cute. It's titled my first find. Hey guys, I just bought my first metal detector and I went in my backyard to try it out. It beeped after five minutes of detecting and I dug up this ring.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Around six inches deep. I couldn't believe it. I can't tell if it's real gold or just a fake ring, but I am super happy either way. I'm just afraid that this is the first and last cool thing I will find. Ha ha. And OP does include a picture of the ring. Oh yeah, that's like a full, that's a wedding band. That's a men's wedding band.
Starting point is 01:57:09 It's very thick gold wedding band has like KM engraved on the inside. I think that's for silver. I think that's the silver. Is it? If it's like a little K and M, I think that's some type of, I think that's the quality of the silver or gold, I believe. Okay. I know there's like 14K, 18K,
Starting point is 01:57:29 they'll stamp on the inside for stuff. But- Is it like, wait, wait, let me see the engraving one more time, sorry. And there's like another little symbol here too. Oh yeah, that might be the manufacturer then. Yeah. So there is a- It's definitely not like a, like it's like, oh, it's like Curtis Fitzgerald or anything.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Like I don't think it's that Curtis Matthews. Yeah, it is interesting. I would assume it's from a manufacturer, but we do find out. Oh, okay. Okay, so- Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself. No, I like the excitement.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Okay. So the comment that's at the top of this one, weird way of saying that, sorry guys. It looks like my dad's wedding ring married in 1950, US 14 karat gold. I bet it's real. Congratulations. OP responds, even though I would absolutely be fine with it
Starting point is 01:58:18 if it's fake, I have my hopes up for being real. It would just make it a lot cooler. I'm going to get it checked out tomorrow and we'll post as soon as I get home. Someone goes, update me. OP responds, I've been to the jeweler today to get the ring checked out. And you were right. It is indeed real gold. It's worth around 200 pounds, but or euros, but I'm not going to sell it. Since I found it in my backyard, there's a fair chance that my landlord lost it there years ago.
Starting point is 01:58:46 I'm going to contact her and ask if she lost it. I hope it's hers. I bet she'd be happy to get it back. This is so cute already. I'm already excited. No, it's like, I love, is there our treasure hunting? I know we're on our metal detecting. There is?
Starting point is 01:58:59 Okay, I'm going to spend a lot of time there because now I've been really into treasure hunting lately. I love treasure hunting. I love all the pirate movies, or even the more recent ones with Matthew McConaughey, like Fool's Gold. Yes. I would love to go on a little treasure hunt.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Right? What is the stat that there's like, how many billions of dollars lost to the ocean in gold, and like treasure? Yeah, fully. It's just debris fields out there and all that. And it's like, even like in California, they estimated that only 10% of California's gold
Starting point is 01:59:29 was mined during the gold rush. That's it? Yeah, it's like very little. What? Cause they could only go through what was on top of the sediment and all that. And like, why are we not out there panning right now? Well, some people are.
Starting point is 01:59:39 Like there is still people hunting for gold. That's why there's like gold hunters and whatever the shows are called on a- I did watch the one about that little town. I think it's in Alaska. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, there's a, I don't know what it's called. There are a couple of places where it's like,
Starting point is 01:59:54 oh yeah, no, there are people that can go get rich. There's from panning for gold. There's, I think it's one of like the mountain countries or mountain towns in various, in Europe, I wanna say, where it's like people just move there to pan for gold and mine for gold up there. And it's like, it's crazy because I think there's like a lot of trash and stuff there
Starting point is 02:00:15 because there's no actual infrastructure there. They just go- Oh my God, it's Everest. It's like people come in and don't take their trash with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but it's like they just move there and everything costs a lot of money, but everything is just looking for gold.
Starting point is 02:00:27 That's the whole thing there. And I get it's probably really labor intensive, but like to just go out and find a nugget, like, and then have someone smelt it into a ring. Like I, I want to go on a gold mining vacation. Yep. I'm going to look into that. See, I'm from California.
Starting point is 02:00:40 So like when I was in fourth grade, we went to, God, what was it called? Not outdoor ed, that was like fifth grade. But there was a time where we literally went and went mining for gold in Sacramento and all this stuff. That's what we did. I was like, this is great. It's on my list.
Starting point is 02:00:52 I'm going now. Yep. So update. So about 20 days ago, I bought my first metal detector and tried it out in my backyard. After some time, I got a strong signal from the detector and dug up a gold ring. It was quite deep underground, about 10 or 12 inches, I'd guess.
Starting point is 02:01:08 At first I wasn't sure if it was real gold so I went to the jeweler to get it checked out and it turned out that it was indeed real gold. It also had two letters, KM, engraved in it. At first I thought those were initials from the person who made the ring, but I was wrong as they told me. I figured that the ring was probably lost a long time ago since it was buried so deep underground. My idea was that my landlord's wife could have lost the ring when they used to live there 13 years ago. I tried calling my landlord several times, but they didn't answer right away because they had been on
Starting point is 02:01:38 vacation. After 20 long days and waiting for them to return, they finally called me today and I asked them to come over. We had some today and I asked them to come over. We had some coffee and I told them about my new hobby, metal detecting. I asked if they had lost jewelry in their yard when they used to live here and my landlord's wife immediately said yes. She lost her gold wedding ring when she was pregnant with their first child 18 years ago and were in the process of moving into a bigger home.
Starting point is 02:02:05 18 fucking years man. I handed her the ring and she could not believe her eyes. She was incredibly thankful and happy. She never thought she would see it again and KM are her own initials. To see their surprised faces and how happy the ring made them absolutely made my day. It was awesome. Here's another pic of the ring made them, absolutely made my day. It was awesome. Here's another pic of the ring. Oh my gosh. I'm gonna be honest, when he said,
Starting point is 02:02:30 I told him about my new hobby, I was like, oh, you're gonna get evicted. I know, that is literally- Okay, yeah, that looks more, I can see it, cause it's like, it's the, I mean, I guess it kind of, it could be the angle, but it looks like it's like, thicker on one side and thinner on the other, which would make more sense.
Starting point is 02:02:44 Yeah, it does give like more masculine of a ring. I wouldn't have assumed like it was the wife's ring because it is like a, just a standard really thick gold band. But they're saying it's pounds, right? Or euros for the money. Yeah, 200 euros. Yeah, so I mean, I don't know what European,
Starting point is 02:03:00 like wedding band. Yeah, that's true. I know. Culture is. I found out, I witnessed a proposal when I was in Paris and recorded it and went up to him after and was checking out the ring. She was so cute and so excited. And I learned that they do the opposite hands.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Oh yeah, right hand. And I'm like, I literally was like, girl, did he put it on the wrong hand? And she was like, no, no, no. And I was like, oh my God, okay, okay. It was so cute. But yeah, it could be like just a thing, like an older couples too.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Like I actually have my great grandma's wedding band and she got married like basically during the great depression. And so it's the tiniest thinnest little band. Like I actually have to go get it like welded, soldered to like another band because it's so fragile. So really, really cute though. So what a good deed too,
Starting point is 02:03:51 cause he didn't have to share. Yeah. There is hope out there. There is hope. That's so nice though. And then, yeah, but he's right. He's like, I'm worried I'm never gonna find something that's cool again.
Starting point is 02:04:01 You may never experience those again. No. That's always, that's the thing with like my job too. It's not that this is his job, but I mean, it could be, you could be a professional finder now. I could see it. It's like, sometimes I do really cool things, but then it's like, there's always that one thing
Starting point is 02:04:13 where it's like, oh, am I ever gonna outlive this cool thing that I've done? Like, am I ever gonna get the chance to do something that's cool again, constantly? I know, I feel like it happens. Cause like, if I would have put myself back, like in my 16 year old shoes, I never thought I feel like it happens. Cause like if I would have put myself back like in my 16 year old shoes, I never thought I'd be doing this.
Starting point is 02:04:29 And like the coolest thing to happen to me then was like getting on stage with Justin Bieber as like the one less lonely girl. And like I would rank. That's insane. It was wild. Like 16 flew to Kentucky, so random. But like I would rank this,
Starting point is 02:04:44 like being able to have a show and like it reaches people and it has a community. Like I'm like, this is way fucking cooler. Like this is so, this is amazing. So it does like, I think you do like just keep. Yeah. But my current one is that I got to be inside a world championship winning formula one car.
Starting point is 02:05:02 Like I, I know, I don't know if I'm ever able to top that. I'm gonna have to become a mermaid. I'm gonna have to become a formula one driver. Like I, nope, I don't know if I'm ever able to top that. I'm gonna have to become a mermaid. I'm gonna have to become a Formula One driver. Like I have to top that. Yeah, that I don't think you can, I don't know if you can top that. Like I was in Lewis Hamilton's car, sorry, hi.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Like it's literally my phone background because I'm never gonna be able to top this. Like I every time. No, no you can't. I can't. Take back everything I said. I can't, I have to become a treasure hunter. I have to, I have to find, you know, every time. I don't. I can't. Take back everything I said. I can't. I have to become a treasure hunter. I have to.
Starting point is 02:05:26 I have to find Atlantis. I have to do something. Okay. So I think we've learned that Amanda is like the coolest person out there. Where can people find you and listen to your show? You can find me on YouTube and TikTok at Swell Entertainment. You can find me everywhere else at loveyoutubegolga
Starting point is 02:05:45 on Instagram, Twitter. I've refused to call it X the like. I also stream on Twitch, also under Swell Entertainment. And yeah, I'm just kind of all over the place. I do a variety of content on commentary and reviews of products, media, and events. And I have motorsport brain rot. So on Twitch, that's usually what I'm talking about
Starting point is 02:05:58 is various F1 and motorsport related things. I know you need to talk cars after this. I'm such a little car junkie too. I love this. I will you need to talk cars after this. Yeah, I'm such a little car junkie, too I love this. I will be sure to link all of Amanda's channels, especially the YouTube you guys It's such an easy click over and the video on over consumption I'm telling you like it is a little bit life-changing for me But there's so many other amazing videos on her channel. So be sure to check them out Thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for being here.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Thank you so much for having me. Oh my gosh. I'm hoping I didn't like traumatize you too much cause today was a lot. It was a lot, but you know, it's okay. It's also like in 2024, it feels like every day is a lot. So this is, at least we got to like, we're kind of removed from these things
Starting point is 02:06:42 that we talked about at least. So there's that. I know everyone can feel a little bit less anxiety that this is not happening for you. And if you are going through something similar, just know you deserve better and start making your way out of the situations because there is happy, good people that will want to
Starting point is 02:07:02 and will if they want to, whatever that thing is, if he wants to, he will. Like every one of these- Oh, if he wanted to, he will. Yeah. I'm like, you deserve love and happiness and safe, healthy relationships and good family members and just, let's all find that. Yes. 2024 is we're halfway through the year. Start 2025 on a good foot and set yourself up for it.
Starting point is 02:07:24 See, I've been thinking about that as well too, about like, oh, we're halfway through the year, like the year is a wash, if we're over halfway through the year. I know. We're in August. Oh my God. I know. But I've been thinking about it more as like,
Starting point is 02:07:33 okay, how different could my life be by December? You know? That's what I'm saying. Versus like the year's almost done. It's like, how much can I, I could change, so much could change by December. So much can change. I just did an episode for my dad's show
Starting point is 02:07:48 and we do like all like dad advice listener write-ins and we had someone that like updated us and she was like, I listened to the show and because of it, I was able to get out of a bad relationship and I just moved across the country. I'm now in LA and I'm starting my modeling career. Like the change you can make for yourself in such a short amount of time.
Starting point is 02:08:10 It's incredible. Like it's incredible. And everyone deserves that. Like you don't deserve to feel bad every day. Like you deserve love and happiness. You deserve to have a partner that's an actual partner and not a burden. And if you want to get in a Formula One car,
Starting point is 02:08:24 get in a Formula One car. you deserve all the good things. Treasure hunting, metal detecting. Treasure hunting. Panning for gold. Yeah, next time I'm on the show, I better hear updates about everyone and their treasure hunting journey. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:08:35 We should have a gold, we could do a metal detector meetup in the beach. We could do a metal detector meetup. Honestly, follow me around, you'll find jewelry eventually. Like the amount of jewelry I've lost, necklace broke in Trader Joe's. If someone wants to find my necklace, it's a panda coin.
Starting point is 02:08:53 My mom got it as a push present. 1994 panda coin, some tiny little ass diamonds around it. It fell off my neck somewhere, probably in the Trader Joe's. The Trader Joe's on 3rd Street and La Brea. Anyone works there? You want to go let me go under shelves? I will see you there.
Starting point is 02:09:12 But if anyone finds it, it's out there floating in the universe. I lost a locket at the Pentagon. Oh! The Pentagon? What? Psycho-mantica? I was in the eighth grade. It was for my eighth grade trip.
Starting point is 02:09:25 We went to Washington, DC, and New York, and all this stuff. And we went to the 9-Eleven Memorial at the Pentagon. And I got back to the bus, and I realized I lost my silver heart locket. So somewhere in the memorial. Is there a picture in it? How do people know if it's going to be yours? Put it out there.
Starting point is 02:09:41 Manifest. I don't think there's a picture in it. This is just a locket. Again, I'm 26. Never say never. 18 years that rings in the dirt. It was probably my dog. So it was probably a Percillin princess.
Starting point is 02:09:54 So a Shelty and a Schnauzer. Oh my god. Look at you, you're a little Schnauzer queen. No, I know. That's why when I got Hermes, I was like, OK. I know. I'm familiar with Schnauzers. This is why I want Hermes.
Starting point is 02:10:04 And then I forgot, oh no, they're fire alarm barkers. They bark like, he barks like a fire alarm. It's insane. I need to hear a clip. I'll never get robbed. He just barks like an insane person. It's crazy. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:10:16 It's like a high pitched squeal in the back of it. So it's like, it's so loud. It's crazy. That's insane. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for having me. Absolute blast.
Starting point is 02:10:24 I like how we did the outro and then we just kept yapping. I know. I'm like, yap was activated. Yap was activated. Okay. Thank you. Bye guys. As I whack the mic. Thanks for watching!

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