Two Hot Takes - 188: Nightmare Fuel or Fiction?..

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Justin! Scary, Spooky Season is back, and we have 9 chilling tales to dive into! Now not every story in this year's theme is paranormal, because ...we all know reality can be even scarier. But for those that are paranormal.. do you believe them? Is the supernatural there, and we just can't explain it yet? Or is this just someone's imagination running away with them? Can't wait to hear your thoughts, and be sure to share your own stories in the comments!!  Father Knows Something Spooky Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loSfnBqIzHs&t=22s && Listen to the full length podcast wherever you're listening now :) Fill out the google form HERE if you're coming to a live show!! : https://forms.gle/9t3zgUDL1VZkvfFt7 LIVE SHOW TICKETS HERE!! https://linktr.ee/twohottakestour MERCH IS ON SALE HERE ! https://shop.twohottakes.com Bonus Content on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes Basically 3 bonus eps this September!! I can't wait to see you all in these, especially at our live shows!! Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Our SubReddit to Submit YOUR Stories!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Partners: Audible: http://audible.com/tht for free 30 day trial! Stitch Fix: http://stitchfix.com/tht Smalls: http://smalls.com Promo Code: THT Shopify: Shopify.com/tht

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello friends, just a reminder to subscribe. And I will tell you right now, one of the best spooky episodes I have done all season, maybe all time is on Father Knows Something right now. Justin, my dad and I sat down and we had some of the most amazing listener write-ins, 11 listener write-ins to be exact. And every story is spooky, crazy, believable, and it's a really good episode.
Starting point is 00:00:27 So if you want more spooky after this, head over to Father Knows Something. I will link the episode in the description of the show. Thank you. We're rolling. Yeah, that's what people think when they see us right now. Hi guys. Welcome back to another episode of Two Hot Takes. I'm your host, Slug Morgan, but I'm in a slug onesie today. But apparently I wore this at a live show and no one could tell what I was. Apparently it's not a slug. Apparently it's a sea slug.
Starting point is 00:01:06 People thought Pokemon. Yeah, I didn't get that one. I mean, it's the same colors as the little charmander. No, Squirtle, Squirtle, right? But I don't know. What do you guys think? Do you see sea slug? We slug him?
Starting point is 00:01:21 Looks like you got a little mustache on your forehead. I do? That's his mouth. No, no, no, below that. See slug? Slugging? Looks like you got a little mustache on your forehead. I do? That's his mouth. No, no, no, below that. Yeah, there's a little stash. Oh no. Maybe that is the mouth. It probably is the mouth, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:38 All they got was a little line for a mouth. Well, enough about me. Justin, what are you wearing? I think everybody knows. Well, for our audio listeners, what are you wearing, Justin? Well, I'm a palm tree. And what's on your head? Coconuts.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Oh my God. I love it so much. He was really, he was really sad to wear this, but I'm like, we're both THT related items. So it felt right. Especially, you know, Halloween spooky season. It felt right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's get into this spooky episode. We only have one this year. I'm really jam packing it full of paranormal ghosts, let's not meet, and no sleep. Don't know if I'm going to say what subreddit these are coming from. I'm just going to let you and your imagination run wild. If you do wanna know at the end,
Starting point is 00:02:47 the story links are on the YouTube description. So you could check them out there. But I'm not gonna tell you what's real or not real. You're just gonna have to see or judge. But yeah, I'm not gonna tell you what sub it came from, but I will tell you what sub it came from. But I will tell you who the user is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. Let's dive in. This first one is coming from the username, NotGhettoEnough. It's a month old. Again, not telling you guys subs at the beginning. It will be linked in the YouTube description. And comment. Comment which ones you think is real, which ones may not be, but they're all spooky. And I will say most are real, if that makes you excited to get into this. Okay. So this first one is is titled The Tinder Stalker. I matched with a man on Tinder one day. The conversation got spicy and I gave
Starting point is 00:04:10 him my number so we could continue chatting. We texted that night. We never exchanged photos or nudes or anything like that, never made plans to meet up. The conversation died and I forgot about him. Weeks go by and I deleted the conversation. Then late one night I get a lewd photo of a man I forgot about him. Weeks go by and I deleted the conversation. Then, late one night, I get a lewd photo of a man I don't recognize. I think of insulting them, but decide to just delete it and not respond.
Starting point is 00:04:35 A few weeks later, I get another one. I have the idea to check my deleted messages to make sure I don't know them. Sure enough, I find out that it's the Tinder guy. Mm. It's really weird of them to text me a month later just lewd images after no contact or anything for over a month. Ew. So I blocked them. A couple of weeks later, I got a lewd video on my Apple Watch. It's the same guy. I'm not sure how I got the message on my watch, if I already blocked his number.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I block him again on my watch. What a weirdo, I think. A week later, I leave my apartment to go on a walk. I see him. He is right there in front of my apartment walking towards me. He has the same outfit as his profile photos and same tattoos and hat, so I am certain it is him. I never mentioned where I lived.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I'm freaked out, but I'm dressed in baggy clothes and recently changed up my hair color. So I keep my head down in hopes he just doesn't recognize me. I walk right past him. I was too scared to look at him to see reaction if he actually recognized me. I was too scared to look back in his direction to see where he went,
Starting point is 00:05:46 so I just kept walking forward. I was severely freaked out, but nothing else happened after that, and I never saw them again. I never mentioned where I lived, so my only thought is he must have used my phone number to look me up. Mmm, yep. It was the least likely person I would have expected. Just some random person I messaged for only one day on Tinder. Even the lewd content they sent, I still just thought they
Starting point is 00:06:12 were a regular perv. I never expected them to somehow show up at my apartment. They didn't even text a word to me or attempt to meet up. They just sent lewds over two months and then appeared. It's just so random and weird. I think their motive was definitely something sexually perverted. It gives me creeps to think about what they wanted, but I'm glad they left me alone.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I never give out my real number to dates anymore. Yeah. I think that is kind of crazy, just the ability to look someone up these days, but I laughed because the fact that they had the same clothes on as their profile photo. I mean, what's the chance? Is that just your favorite outfit?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Maybe that's his only outfit. I guess you gotta kind of think about that when you're making something your profile picture. If it's something you wear a lot, then you may not want to make your profile picture because who knows? Just in general, not in this creepy sense. But yeah, I just picture the get out scene
Starting point is 00:07:10 where the guy's full on sprinting, because whoever the actor is wakes up in the middle of night and is kind of outside smoking or something, and then they look up and just see sprinting, dead straight, obviously this see like sprinting dead straight. Obviously this wasn't sprinting, but walking. But that's the intensity I feel because all of a sudden out of nowhere, you connect the dots in your head and you're like, holy shit, that's the guy.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And they're walking right towards you. It's, it would be hard to think that that's a coincidence. There's no chance. Like unless you're from the same city block in New York, I don't know how you, I don't know, it's just crazy. And then the fact then to be really smart and think, okay, I'm wearing clothes that make me unidentifiable and I recently changed my hair.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So I'm just gonna make the call to not react and just walk forward and walk past. So, so smart. Crazy, I wouldn't even have thought of that. No. I would have been like- Immediate panic turnaround. And then that's when bad shit happens.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I just like the ability to not look too. Oh, the turnaround? Yeah, that can give it away. I literally just watched a TikTok of a girl today and she was like, I got to tell you guys about this. And like, let me know if I'm overreacting. And she got in an elevator, hit her floor number that she lived on four
Starting point is 00:08:40 and all of a sudden a guy gets in and he doesn't hit a number. And she could just feel him staring at her, not looking around, just watching her. And so she hesitates when the elevator gets to her floor and she's like, I don't know what to do. Like, he knows where I live. I can't go to any other doors. I already hit four. Like, I don't know what to do. She can't go to any doors. Like the hallway is weird, how it's like dead ends and like,
Starting point is 00:09:08 she's trapped and like, it was really, really scary. And she goes, I watched him get out on my floor and watch what room I went into. And he didn't come down the hall, but like, I was terrified. And it's that feeling of like being prey. That is like how people were describing it in the comments. And then they shared their stories. But like, you just know, you get this gut feeling and this sense
Starting point is 00:09:36 and like cross the street if you have to, do whatever you have to be weird, do whatever. But that feeling of being prey, ooh. Well, especially when they're like, it's a hallway like that. There is no way out. That's how my apartment was in New York. Most, if any, because some hotels,
Starting point is 00:09:53 you can get out and walk the full circle. If you were trying to just kind of, you know, not just distract or evade, but yeah, mine, you take a left or right out of the elevator and that was it. And you're not going to go into anyone else's place. It's different, you know, when you're being followed in a car, you know, you go to the police station or you can just drive around or you can pull up to your friend's place. You can, you know, there's more options. But in your apartment, and there's more options. But in your apartment.
Starting point is 00:10:24 But this, no. And he knows what floor she lives on. He knows what apartment is hers. I mean, that's incredibly invasive. Even back to the story we're on with the passing on the sidewalk, it's still so freaky because then you're narrowed down to a place
Starting point is 00:10:41 and you start to think this was targeted. What did she say she was leaving? Or was she just outside? Walking out of their apartment, yeah. Yeah, and the part you pointed out about not looking back? Because when you start looking back, it gives them a chance to see your face and like, Oh man.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Just a total badass. There's only one comment in regards to this post. It was about a year and a half ago, I recently moved. But right after it happened, one of the first things I did was install a security camera. I slept with a knife for a couple of weeks and even cut myself on accident. I had problems sleeping for weeks.
Starting point is 00:11:18 It was affecting my mental health. I was way over paranoid. But what I learned is don't ever give your phone number or full name to somebody unless you fully trust them. Stockers can use that info to find your address. I met someone else who was stalked via phone number and a man came to his house with a knife. I never, and like that is such a great point.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I never would have like thought like, oh, I'm meeting someone on Tinder after talking to them for a week, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I guess I shouldn't have given them my phone number. I've never thought about that, but it makes sense. Use WhatsApp, keep just messaging on the app until you really know them, I guess.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I mean, the issue is you can find all of that just off someone's name, really. I think really the moral is you never feel too safe. Don't be paranoid to the point where it affects your whole life, but never get too comfortable and too safe because most times you're fine. But if you have your guard up and you do take the precautions, have a security camera, you know, they're,
Starting point is 00:12:27 for what they provide, they're not that expensive. And also there's other things like door and window sensors. Even some of the tools you use in hotel rooms that make the door harder to open, or if the door moves, the alarm goes off. It gives you more of a fighting chance to react and do something to prevent whatever. I know, especially if you live alone,
Starting point is 00:12:54 like I think you should automatically have those things if you live alone. Well, and even just for peace of mind when you're not home. And it doesn't always have to relate to other people, but it can relate to a fire or a flood or just simply being able to check the cameras around and for us, look at the horses,
Starting point is 00:13:15 make sure the horses are good or make sure the inside of your house isn't flooding or something's going on. It just feels good to know. And then if something does happen, especially when you're not there, you can react instead of coming back home to a potential very dangerous situation.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Never can be too safe. I would rather be paranoid and weird than not safe enough. Yeah, but don't lock yourself in your room and never leave because you're scared of the world. I mean, that's- Honestly, that sounds kind of nice too. Well, yeah, but you gotta also live life. So you gotta find the balance,
Starting point is 00:13:51 but definitely protect yourself. Absolutely. Because this stuff is real and everyone feels really good until it happens to them or someone they know. And then it's just like, poof. So take steps now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Top comment, this is actually terrifying. There are seven different types of stalkers. Here is the article that explains them. I'm super wigged up by your story because I recently learned of a woman who was viciously attacked in her apartment by a man she did not know who, as it turns out, stalked her for several years
Starting point is 00:14:23 before he broke in and tried to kill her. Please don't sweep this one under the rug and protect yourself. Have a weapon close by where you sleep, have cameras around your home, be vigilant when out and about, et cetera. This could be nothing or it could be a horrible situation waiting to happen.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And that's also the shitty part is you just, you don't know. I've had situations like that before. I've been through them. And when you're sitting there waiting, just wondering, because you feel that that threat is there. Yeah. I mean, it really sucks.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It's just horrible. Alejandra's had a stalker. I mean, stalking is like very, very serious, very dangerous, and it's oftentimes overlooked. And I clicked on the link to look at the different types of stalkers and it's from fighterlaw.com. I'm not sure how accurate this resource is, but they do reference that studies have indicated
Starting point is 00:15:24 that up to 16% of women and 7% of men are likely to be stalked in their lifetime. That's like almost a quarter. That's an eighth. I don't know what the math is on that, but that's a lot. That is a lot. But there's seven different types, that person mentioned rejected stalker resentful intimacy seekers incompetent suitors
Starting point is 00:15:49 predatory stalkers aeromatic stalkers and love obsessional stalkers Crazy and they'd give a full breakdown. So I will put this on there apparently a Hitman is also a type of stalker Well, yes, I mean that I Apparently a hitman is also a type of stalker. Well, yes, I mean that.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I guess that. Most dangerous. I guess that qualifies. Crazy. A hitman. A hitman. It's just wild. I know this is a sidetracked, but just crazy that you think all these movies and shows
Starting point is 00:16:21 and whatever you watch, oh, hitmen. Yeah, great plot point adds to the story. No, but they're real. Super real. They're real. Oh, what do you do? Well, you know, I get paid to kill people. That's absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's disgusting. Insane. I just saw, cause I'm starting a true crime thing soon, very soon. And I was just looking at some cases and there was a woman who actually killed her hitman. He broke in, her husband hired him and she fought him off and killed him.
Starting point is 00:16:58 How do you get in touch with a hitman? I don't know. I don't wanna know. It's terrifying. Don't look into hitman. I don't know. I don't want to know. It's terrifying. Don't look into hitman. Moving along. Okay, this next one. It is titled, Haunting or a Witch?
Starting point is 00:17:13 I recently just moved out of a house I rented for six years and into a house my partner and I just bought with our two daughters. Everything has been going great in this new home. And I made a point to sage, cleanse, and protect this house before moving anything into it after the experience in our last home. Everything has been going great,
Starting point is 00:17:32 and all of us have expressed having never felt this well-rested since moving a month ago. Now, going back to the previous home. From the start of this old home, things felt pretty off. My youngest, 10 years old, would sleepwalk and do odd things in her sleep, while my oldest, 14, would oversleep, but constantly wake up and always be incredibly crabby. Since moving, she's the complete opposite.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Now, as far as I go, at this house, I was struggling hard with very constant sleep paralysis. It always was the same figure either standing over me or staring at me from my doorway. This figure was a tall woman in black Victorian-style dress, and I was never able to make out her face as she had a black veil over it, and I was honestly always too scared to look out her face as she had a black veil over it and I was honestly always too scared to look at her face. One time I woke up unable to move or get words out, just moans as I was trying to wake my partner for help. There was a giant yellow serpent
Starting point is 00:18:37 slithering over my body, staring at my feet and slithered towards my face and then went between the mattress and headboard to go under the bed. It felt incredibly real, but once getting my boyfriend's attention, he assured me it was just a dream. The weirdest part of all of this to me is that whatever this figure was, it made a point to assure me that these things were not just dreams. Over these six years, I had the same exact sleep paralysis event happen three times. This Victorian woman would stand over my bed, gently take my hand and stick my palm with something,
Starting point is 00:19:17 leaving five small dots on my palm that actually pierced my skin. These marks would stick around for a few days. The craziest part, the last time was coincidentally the very last night we spent in that house. Like I previously stated, my family is doing much better now, but I would love to hear anyone's thoughts on what this could have been,
Starting point is 00:19:40 as I can't stop thinking about it since moving. No, thank you. Well, guess what? We have pictures of the dots. Oh, that's crazy. I just keep picturing the snake going right under the bed. No. You can just feel it too.
Starting point is 00:19:59 You feel it. It's so... I don't like the paralysis part. Well, especially when it's a dark energy, because a lot of times you hear people who can't move, but they see something and they always say they feel totally at peace. They don't feel scared. And it's like a good visitation of some sort.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And this is not that, but I don't want to have paralysis with something bad. I don't know. At this current point in time, I'm drawing a blank. I've had a lot of scary dreams. I've had that paranormal experience at the Palm Springs house. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:20:43 But I don't think I've ever had a sleep paralysis like this where someone is looming over me. You've had a really scary experience lately. It feels more paranormal than sleep paralysis because it was a one-off. You've never had one since and you never had one before, right? Well, we're setting, teeing ourselves up. Great for tonight.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Knock on wood, buddy. But why don't you tell people about it? Well, it's starting to fade because I'm trying to push it out of my memory and my mind. But I just remember being in bed, middle of the night, probably the darkest time of night, of course. in bed, middle of the night, probably the darkest time of night, of course. And I just felt a swipe across lower legs and then back and then the sensation like I was being pulled down.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And then I just remember waking up fully and sitting up and kind of pushing myself back almost to be in this position like I'm in now. And I just sat up in bed like this. And I remember just like a inexplicable fear. Didn't you see like a shadow figure? I don't remember. I don't remember, I didn't see a figure in the doorway that is so present in these stories. You saw you.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I remember when it first happened the morning after, because you were scared to tell me, because you didn't want to scare me in the house, because I'm already scared of the dark. I'm really, this wouldn't go over well with me staying home alone. Okay. And I remember you, you're like, I don't really want to tell you this, but you said the swipe and the pull down, and then you opened your eyes
Starting point is 00:22:31 because you thought it was me. And then you looked- Well, I mean, what would you naturally think? I know. You know, we don't have got a dog or nothing. No, so you looked over to see if I was awake or if I was there and I was sound asleep, like nothing had happened. But then you looked towards the bottom of the bed and I was sound asleep, like nothing had happened,
Starting point is 00:22:45 but then you look towards the bottom of the bed and there was like a shadowy figure. Maybe, yeah. Like crouched or something. Pushing that out, you know? Blacking that out. So, I mean, explain that, like that doesn't feel like sleep paralysis.
Starting point is 00:22:59 This doesn't really feel- No, it feels like you moved us into a haunted house. I know, and this doesn't feel like sleep paralysis. So here is one picture that we have of our writer's hand. Very clearly dots, like pressed in dots. And it's in a spot, like more towards the pad, like the base of her fingers. So like I'm sitting here trying to be like,
Starting point is 00:23:27 could this be her nails? Like clenching it's little pinpoints. They're tiny pinpoints. So that's the first picture we have, okay? This is another picture. And this is where it gets even weirder. Slightly in a different spot, a little lower on her hand, but like five very distinct individual... Looks like a fork.
Starting point is 00:23:53 It does look like a fork. So the thing is... And forks, did you know forks were originally called the devil's pitchfork? Forks were like banned by the church. Do forks have four though? Or are they a fiver? I think they're a four. Maybe that's why they call it fork, four. No, a fork is like a split fork in the road. Forks usually have four. There are some small five pronged things,
Starting point is 00:24:21 but they're more so serving forks and they're way bigger. Yeah, so... A pitchfork usually has five. The thing that's weird... Devil's got a pitchfork. Well, the thing that's weird about it is the fact that now we're transcending into reality.
Starting point is 00:24:39 You know, at one point, someone could say it's a dream, these experiences, because you're half asleep and whatever. But then when the dream becomes reality, that's really weird. When you have a physical mark from the dream that you remember, that's when shit gets real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I mean, I don't know how to explain that. They're tiny. It's the tiniest little mark. I mean, if you't know how to explain that. They're tiny. It's the tiniest little mark. I mean, if you're watching on YouTube, it'll be in the YouTube version of the podcast. I will really try to remember to put it on my Instagram post. I will try.
Starting point is 00:25:17 But I mean, it's, I don't know what item would make that. Fork, yeah, sure. But like forks are four. Maybe she's got a random five, but to have- But was she waking up and stabbing her hand? That's the thing. So I did reach out and message them being like, hey, can I share your story on the pod? And they were like, absolutely. What's your podcast? I was like, two hot takes. Thank you so much. Oh my God, I love your podcast. If you have any questions, let me
Starting point is 00:25:43 know. I feel like I left out so much in my post and I was like I mean the picture with the dots is what's blowing my mind But if you have any other pictures or tangible stuff, that would be great. I'm like give me all the details I want to know more so that's when they sent me a picture another picture So the picture that was in the comments of the post was like one of the later ones This is the picture from the first one. Okay, and then they said I was embarrassed I didn't connect the dots on what your podcast was based on your name. I was watching clips on tik-tok The dots are insane
Starting point is 00:26:14 My stories made my friends terrified to ever stay the night at my home and I really couldn't blame them I know I had pictures of globs of black hair that I used to find in my daughter's room. None of us have black hair, but I can't find them anywhere. A friend, however, just sent me a photo of the first set of dots I ever had on my hand. Same placement.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And I was like, the hair? What? You're finding globs of black hair all over your house, but no one in your house has black hair? Nope. So I responded back and I was like, and the sleep paralysis sounds so intense. And people who have that usually have it
Starting point is 00:26:56 in multiple times, places, et cetera. Like Alejandra's had it in LA, but also Minnesota. Like it's more recurring versus like this person moved out of the house. You don't want them traveling with you. And it hasn't happened. And so they responded back, the hair was super disturbing. Had a friend come over and help me cleanse her room after finding the hair multiple times. We went crazy in that room. Sage, crystals, protection bags, salt sigils and all. The hair did stop, but sleepwalking continued.
Starting point is 00:27:26 She never said anything about the woman I was seeing though, aside from mentioning hearing someone walk outside of her bedroom. I've never personally met anyone that has had any physical things from sleep paralysis either. Because I did mention, like, usually you don't get physical things. Even like scratches, I feel like, are more like less common because people like you're paralyzed. It's sleep paralysis. Well and they're more a scratch also. This is so specific. It doesn't look self-inflicted.
Starting point is 00:27:56 You could do with your nail like your dad telling that on the last show I did with him. He's like, I woke up and my nose is bleeding because I just scratched it really hard with my finger. So like you can, you know, you can scratch yourself but there's no physical way you can put those five little dots in your hand. No, I, the size and shape of it is so peculiar. They go on to say, this is a big part of why I posted because I've never had, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:26 you've never heard of other physical things happening. I keep having thoughts about the house since moving, but so far we've been in our new house for a month and I haven't had sleep paralysis once. All four of us have been sleeping so much better and our youngest hasn't been sleepwalking. Now imagine this. What? Imagine this.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's fucking that house. It's in that house. What if it just takes some time? Nope. Don't put that into the universe for them. What were you going to say? I'm just thinking. If you're listening, writer, don't just skip, skip to the next story. Just as, you know, a horror film fan,
Starting point is 00:29:09 all of a sudden you hear someone outside your door, you wake up, daughter's sleepwalking again, find the hair in the next couple of weeks, sleep paralysis is back. What do you do? Exorcism. What do you do? You can't move again, You're gonna keep moving?
Starting point is 00:29:25 It's gonna keep happening? Are Ed and Lorraine Warren still around? If you started finding hair around, are we moving? I mean, it'd be hard to tell at our house. We shed a lot. That's true. We shed a lot. That is true.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Especially me lately. I mean, when we first moved in, there were definitely some weird noises, but, you know, I think it was just raccoons in the attic. It was some good old rake-ins. So things have been more toned down. But I haven't had like any sleep paralysis type things like that. And people do, you know, they see the same sleep paralysis demon.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So there's conversations of like, how are multiple people seeing the same sleep paralysis man, but yet haven't talked to each other, but they can all describe the same person. Is it the Grim Reaper? Is it Hat Man? Who is it? I think it's crazy when people can connect on one
Starting point is 00:30:21 that isn't so popular because it's, that is wild. Cause then it's not an image that's already been in your mind. Yeah. But I used to have sleep terrors when I was young. So my parents would wake up to me in my room, screaming at the top of my lungs. And maybe you're sensitive.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Imagine if we have a kid with sleep terrors. I'm gonna be scared shitless. All of a sudden, we're just gonna be a sudden, across the house, you hear blood curling screams. No. And what you have to do as a parent is go out there and see what the fuck's going on.
Starting point is 00:30:55 That's gonna be your job. Because, you know, sleep terrors is probably the best possible outcome. I guess. What else would you scream about? Someone or something is in the house. Wouldn't that be fun? No.
Starting point is 00:31:13 So too scary. Are sleep terrors like a genetic pass down kind of thing? I sure hope not. Otherwise we might just have to adopt because that sounds terrible. The way they describe it is top of your lungs screaming. I'm so like, so scared of everything. Imagine waking up to screams.
Starting point is 00:31:33 No, and that's the thing with kids. Kids are more sensitive to energy and spirits. That's what I believe. So I do genuinely believe kids can see things What was going on? That we can't. Maybe you were sensitive and maybe you had a haunted house. Well, maybe.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Moving along. But another one of this week's partners is Audible. Now I love reading, but I don't often have the time for reading, which is why I've been really, really getting into listening to audio books lately.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Hence my newfound love for audible. Whether I'm cooking, cleaning stalls for the horses or driving somewhere, I pop on my audio book and I feel more Zen. Listening to that audio book puts me in a better mood. I feel accomplished. I'm enjoying my time doing maybe some mundane tasks that I typically wouldn't and I'm learning or not even learning, but'm enjoying my time doing maybe some mundane tasks that I typically
Starting point is 00:32:25 wouldn't, and I'm learning, or not even learning, but just enjoying the experience my mind is creating. But I don't even know if I want to pick up an actual book anymore. But seriously, if you want to get into it yourself, Audible has the best selection of audio books, along with popular podcasts and exclusive Audible originals, and it's all in one easy to use app. I mean, there's just so much more to imagine when you listen. So if you want to try it for yourself, sign up for a free 30 day Audible trial and your first audio book is free. Visit audible.com slash THT.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Link is also in the description. Let's get into some of these picture evidence stories that I have. Taking a little break from the heavy hitters and gonna go into some picture evidence. Sir, where's the energy? I'm just doing what we do at live shows. I see. You're allowed to boo. You are.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Okay, so this is coming from Pyrocenest. This is a photo taken back when film was the only option. It is of my coworker's great, great grandma. It was taken by her grandfather as the building was burning down. She had been dead for a few years at the time. And the area she can be seen in was the kitchen. You ready for this one?
Starting point is 00:33:43 Okay, what now? I see her in there, yeah. You see the person in there? She better get out. House will burn down. It's a ghost. That person ain't real. Just hanging out in the fire, just watching it burn? Hanging out, I guess. Next image we have.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Wow, I just got the craziest deja vu. Oh, I've done this before. I've literally been here. I've done this before. Don't you guys hate deja vus? Okay, this next one is coming from CursedEmoji. A friend of mine sent me this picture from his group of friends in Chile. Looks like a pretty normal picture. Couple friends smiling at a camera. Yeah, there's a lot of people around. Mm-hmm. And then if you happen to zoom.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Oh yeah, I thought I saw something there. That is absolute nightmare fuel. Nightmare fuel. The video I have for my friend, did you put that on last year's spooky episode? No. With the girls in the apartment? It went viral on TikTok. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It did go viral on TikTok. So if you describe it. And then I just happened to know their friend that had the original. Yes. Were there, what were they doing? The swing, the ring? Yeah. The ring, was it the ring?
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah. So it was a couple people at an apartment in New York, I believe. I have it on my phone actually. And that feels like bad juju. And they were playing that game where there's a ring on a string and you have to let it swing and it goes on a hook. And as they were doing it,
Starting point is 00:35:18 they caught like a ghost girl walking past the room. Well, like looked and then it just turned and walked down the hallway. It was so crazy. The doors was locked. No one else lived there. They then started getting paranoid about like someone's living in your walls. Ha ha. Like Parasite or whatever. Nobody looks like that though.
Starting point is 00:35:36 It was like literally a Victorian child nightgown. It was so weird. It was so weird. So, I didn't like it. I did not like it. Should we watch it real quick? No. Okay, this next one is from the one true bean. Being?
Starting point is 00:35:57 Bean. Oh, bean. Like Jack and the Bean stock. It is titled, came home after work to a handprint on my new mattress. Other strange things in my place recently as well. I live alone. Memory foam?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Very clearly memory foam, but like brand new mattress. And you know how like when memory foam, like if you push in it and see a handprint. It goes away. Usually like the foam though though, like, you see it go down. There's no down. It's just very clear, visible handprint on the top. Stuck there. Yeah, it's interesting. Well, so, I mean, if I saw that, I would be like, holy shit, someone's been in here.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yeah. So how do we know someone someone's been in here. Yeah. So how do we know someone hadn't been in there? So I messaged them and I was like, hey, can I share? And they were like, I just moved in and was talking to a friend about how it feels like someone else is hanging out in there, but like not in a bad way. Then I left my mattress to inflate and came home to that handprint.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I've since had a few other wacky things happen up there and so have a few friends of mine. And I said, Oh my God, like what? Like what? And they haven't responded in time. Oh shoot darn tootin'. This was also like literally two hours ago. Ah darn dang tootin'. Shoot toot scootin', kabootin'.
Starting point is 00:37:29 This next one is really interesting. It is a video clip. We love videos. Coming from Gabberflasm. So, my mom just sent this to me from her security camera. This is just about the best footage I've ever seen. My brother is right there and never heard or saw anyone. No nearby neighbors that would be walking
Starting point is 00:37:52 on her property like that either. Brother is in the trunk of the car, rummaging about doing stuff. Yeah, that was a weird motion. And you see like, you literally- How they duck down all weird. They didn't duck down like a normal person. No.
Starting point is 00:38:12 No, not at all. Like very, and almost like, almost translucent. Floating. Look at that. And then disappears. Who like bends down like that? I'm telling you, I don't know. I don't know and I don't like it. You know what would be crazy?
Starting point is 00:38:29 If one night you looked out and on the security camera in the backyard there was an old cowboy just riding Smarty. Dude, dude. Oh my God, no. That'd be kind of cool though. That'd be kind of cool. Like someone's back to fulfill their passion
Starting point is 00:38:44 and they just jumped on Smarty. And they're just like riding Smarty around the backyard. I know, but the problem is like... That'd be awesome. We do have someone that's died in our house, so I'm like... We don't know if they're an equestrian. I know, but the fact that someone has died in our house... Yeah, but we like them.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I know, I do, I do. If you're listening, I do like you. But it's still, it's just one of those things. And she probably did die in our bedroom. That's fine. But we kept the charm. You know, we're taking care of that place. Maybe the thing that pulled you was her. She's mad. We destroyed the charm of her house. Why is she stuck there then?
Starting point is 00:39:23 I don't know. We need to get some Palo Santo and cleanse. Do you think, so you know how they say that spirits stick around because they're stuck, like something is keeping them here, some unfinished business, you could say. Then when you go and sage, is it forcing them out and they're still stuck in purgatory? Like I know it helps you here living, but does it force them out and then they still have that unfinished business or does it somehow like cleanse them of everything
Starting point is 00:39:57 and then they can go to the other side? I'm gonna need a very spiritual psychic person to chime in on that one. We got someone out there. Oh, we have to chime in on that one. We got someone out there and I'll- Oh, we have a bunch of witches that listen. Genuinely, genuinely. Now, I want to say genuine question. Yeah, so I think we could get some good feedback,
Starting point is 00:40:16 but yeah, moving along. All right. Okay, so these next couple are coming from listeners from Tuha Takes. I reached out on Instagram today and I was like, does anyone have any stories with like proof in them? Okay. And we got a couple that are really good.
Starting point is 00:40:34 So our first one, Ghost spoke to me while I was sleeping. It's coming from Dina. Hi, THD fam. I'm so excited. Been listening to your podcast since day one and I'm so excited to be writing to you. Okay, okay, on to my ghost story.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I'm not a great writer, so I hope you can bear with me, ha ha ha. I, 31 female, made a big decision to move from California to Utah in 2016. The house my family and I moved into is gorgeous. The views are incredible and it is such a quiet and friendly neighborhood, which was completely different from what I was used to in the LA area.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Slowly but surely, strange things started happening around the house throughout the years. Things would completely disappear for weeks at a time and then reappear somewhere completely random. I would hear someone calling my name and thinking it was my family so I'd go check only to find out no one was home. No one in my family experienced anything either. It was just me. Ultimately, I just chalked most of it up to my imagination. However, in 2019 I started to dabble in the world of tarot, astrology readings, and spell work.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I had a lot of really good friends out here to show me the do's and don'ts and how to show respect in the craft as to not offend any deities or spirits. As I started to hone my skills, things started to get even weirder. I'd have feelings of constantly being watched, like there was a mass of dark energy following me around and hiding in certain corners of my house. I was feeling exhausted all the time without reason. I was afraid to be in my own home alone. On April 3, 2019, my friend joked with me about how bad I snore. And of course, we had a joking debate about how she thinks I snore and how I think I don't.
Starting point is 00:42:25 But on this night in particular, I wanted to prove her wrong, so I decided to record myself so that I could play back the next morning. After all, I didn't want to have to pay her $20 if she was right. Ha ha ha ha. The following morning, I listened to the recording and paid my friend the $20, and from there thought nothing of it. A few weeks later, I showed a different friend the recording and went to a random spot in the recording,
Starting point is 00:42:51 four hours, two minutes, five seconds, so we can laugh about how I snore. But there was something else in the recording that I can't explain. We looked at each other in horror, trying desperately to figure out what it could have possibly been. In the recording, you can hear me snoozing away.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I smacked my gums a few times and resumed snoring. And in the background, you can hear a man's voice saying, "'That's it' in the creepiest, most perverted way. "'Had I just been like violated by a freaking ghost? I listened to the rest of the eight hour recording audio and couldn't find any trace of anything else. I don't have a TV in my room,
Starting point is 00:43:35 so it couldn't have been that. And I live in the mother-in-law suite of my house, which means all of my family members are on the third floor and my room is in the basement. I had no way of explaining where that voice came from. After that I did some spell work to cleanse the house of anything that could be lingering around and gave up on spell work altogether. Since then I haven't felt the dark presence in my house and never recorded myself while
Starting point is 00:44:01 I was sleeping ever again, nor do I sleep in complete silence. To this day, I still can't listen to the audio without it sending shivers down my spine. I hope you can listen to the audio and be as creeped out as I was. Wouldn't you be curious to listen to the entire thing after that though? No.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Why? I'd be petrified. What if there's more? She already did. She did the work for us. Oh, she listened to the whole thing. All eight hours. Oh, okay, good. Nothing else there. I thought it was just, I found the random moment and that was it. No.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Oh, wow. So here is the audio. It's very subtle, did you hear it? That's it. Yeah. It's creepy. It'd be weird to scroll to that exact moment too. Just chance. So when she did listen to the whole thing, there was nothing else.
Starting point is 00:45:06 No, nothing else. I would have to record myself more nights. Just to find any other blip. Any blip. The thing is though, it doesn't sound like it's her voice or their voice. Like, you know, like when you sleep talk, it's very clearly your voice. But if I was, swear to God, I have conversations with you.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But if I was laying there and you started sleep talking and all of a sudden it was like, hi, my name's Justin. It'd be like, that's not fucking Justin. Oh, I would freak. Or if it's a voice that I couldn't even fake. Like what if it was all of a sudden just a different language and I was going a million miles an hour. Exorcism.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And my eyes are going all over the place. We would be dragging your ass to a church and finding a priest to exorcism your ass. Exercise? Your ass. Your ass. None of that. You'd be like, you're done.
Starting point is 00:46:03 You're done. You're done. You're done. Go sleep in the guest room. So crazy. We have another one from a listener. This is coming from Riley. Okay, so some backstory. I live in Virginia near Jamestown, if you remember it from history class. Anyways, there's this road that is known for being haunted.
Starting point is 00:46:23 All the high school kids go there to get a little scared every once in a while. The myth goes in the early 1800s, a woman fell pregnant. And when the baby was born, her husband didn't believe it was his and dot dot dot dot. Wow. The woman could not stand the pain and... Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:43 From a bridge, Crawford Bridge. If you park onto the bridge at night and fully turn off your car and all lights, you will hear a woman tapping on your window in search for a baby. If you have no baby in the car or you aren't pregnant, you are fine. Babies have gotten sick from this spot for seemingly no reason. Who's bringing a baby there? And cars also tend to stall. Anyways, as all teens do, me and my friend did the ritual,
Starting point is 00:47:12 heard her, got really scared and drove away. About three minutes later on the same road, my car completely stopped. Confused and a little scared, we got out of the car to fix it and noticed some deer. To ease our minds, we started taking pictures and later looked at them with some lights on and blurs in them. It's in the middle of nowhere. We thought it was odd, but didn't think much of it other than being extra spooked. That was until I was showing my now husband to the road a few months ago and we came across the site where the freaky pictures were taken.
Starting point is 00:47:46 It was a battle location from the Civil War. Just a lot of things coming together in this one. So much crazy shit. Just some little deer. You wanna see the picture? Of course. You ready? You ready for it?
Starting point is 00:48:03 Here is the picture. I mean, you see deer, but you also see like, some very weird blurs and it's a little peculiar. Can we go to the bridge? No pictures of the bridge and I will not be going there. Well, just to, you know, hit the taps. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I'm good. Yeah? No. A little road trip. No. Yeah. No. I don't want to subject myself to anything extra spooky,
Starting point is 00:48:36 like even reading these stories. I'm like, what energy am I bringing into my life? I just came up with a great idea. I just came up with a great idea. I just came up with a great idea, kinda. I want to get a bus and we'll call it the Two Hot Takes Bus. Okay. Like a converted school bus. Yup.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I'm going to go to Virginia. Somewhere outside of Virginia, Jamestown, Virginia. Yup. Okay. I'm coming to Virginia. I'm going to have a Two Hot Takes Bus, a. Okay, I'm coming to Virginia. I'm gonna have a two out takes bus, a select group of whoever would like to join. Let's fill the bus.
Starting point is 00:49:10 We're all gonna go to this spot and we're gonna hear the taps because you know where you'd find a kid is on a school bus. So if we have an old converted school bus, she'll think there's gotta be a kid in there. And then we'll all hear the taps. We can all do this together as a group. It's better than going by yourself. So let me know, because I'm down.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I won't be riding that bus. I'm down. We can go to all the different sites. I just don't want to get on that bus. Unless someone like sends me, but don't send me a voodoo doll. But if someone sent me like a little protection. Like a little suit, like a battle armor. Yeah, then I'd be maybe open, but likely not. Let's make this happen.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Last one from our listeners. This is from Kristen. Here is my short story, Morgan, but kind of freaky. In fall of 2020, I was in my junior year of college and we decided to move into a house closer to our campus. We moved into an old 1950s house that had rumors for weird sounds, creaks, and some weird auras based on my friend who can feel spirits. We moved in and my window backed up into a heavily wooded and thick area.
Starting point is 00:50:18 My windows didn't lock, and I had one in my bathroom that was high up. One day I was getting ready for class and in the reflection of my mirror, I noticed handprints that were not always there on my window that was fairly high up. And it was the one that backed up into the woods. See the video attached. About a month or two later,
Starting point is 00:50:38 there was a loud boom in our ceiling and there were no trees down, no animals, nothing. We ended up calling the police and they checked our crawlspace and said it seemed like someone could be living in our attic. The entrance to the crawlspace was below the window that had handprints. A couple of months later we had a heavy roach infestation. I'm talking killing 30 a week problem Damn we ended up trying to salt the house Which you can see the picture with our makeshift trap of Bojangles box and salt around all the entrances Then a couple of months later these two girls woke my sister and I up at 3 a.m
Starting point is 00:51:18 Banging on our front door saying to let their goddamn dog out of the yard Or they would kick our door down and beat us up. What? We obviously didn't let them in and my ring camera wasn't recording because I didn't pay their subscription. Bullshit that they have subscriptions. Go Yuffie. Hey. It's also important to note our yard was not fenced in. Yeah that's okay. The whole house was weird and just had interesting, scary vibes. I've attached the videos and pictures here, but I lived there for two years and a lot of other freaky things happened. So you think someone was actually living up there?
Starting point is 00:51:55 Uh huh. But like a person or a ghost? Person. Oh really? Yeah. So here is the video. Don't be living in people's crawl spaces. Come on.
Starting point is 00:52:04 What are we doing? Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess. So, okay, I'm pressing play. Clearly a hand. Okay. The laugh. Your laugh also just scared the shit out of me. But that is very clearly a hand, like trying to push up a window. You know when you don't have leverage from outside a window
Starting point is 00:52:24 and you want to try to push it up? I wouldn't push on the glass though. I would go like on the, you know, I need some wood. But if it's high, if it's high, that's probably the only part of the window you could reach. Are they up there? Oh, wait, so we're not, I thought we were on like second floor,
Starting point is 00:52:37 third floor kind of situation. This sounds like ground level access. So crawl space is under, I thought crawl space was the attic. Attic, attic. Some people call them a crawl space. So the crawl space is under? I thought crawl space was the attic. Attic. Some people call it a crawl space. So the crawl space is under the window. Above the window. The entrance to the crawl space was below the window that had handprints. Right, right. So we're second floor at least or even higher. Crawl space. Or is the crawl space under the house? The crawl space might be the one under the house, and then the attic is the one in the attic.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Yeah. But if they're living in the crawl space under the house, why touch the window? Just trying to get in. And then go up into the attic? No. So maybe they were living in both? Just want to take a shower.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I'll tell you what, I do not want to go in our crawlspace. No. No. I've looked down there, I do not like it. No, and when that fucking, I thought it was, I literally thought someone was up in our attic. And so I made Justin look, and I do think it was just raccoons,
Starting point is 00:53:37 because later on in the week, we saw like a family of seven climb out of a tree next to our roof. When the thing on the roof was loose, the little, the cover to the- They took one of the vents off the roof. Yeah. The animal literally grabbed it and threw it.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Yeah, so they were just chilling up there. It's all right, they're cute. I don't want them in my roof. It sounded like there were people up there. Little rake-ins. It's too scary for me, too scary for me. Moving along. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Another one of this week's partners is Smalls. Okay. Keep this just between us, right? Just between us. So my neighbors have a cat, his name is Junior, and he likes to peruse the block. And I'm not supposed to feed him because he eats mice, but I do. And so now anytime Justin or I come home, he will come running. Doesn't matter where he is, across the street,
Starting point is 00:54:25 down the block, he comes running. But you know why? Because we've been feeding him Smalls. Yeah, Smalls, the protein packed cat food that's made without preservatives or other filler junk. It's basically ingredients that you would find in your fridge and it's delivered right to your door. Something I think that's really cool about Smalls
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Starting point is 00:55:37 weeks before his death. I've only told a few people about this. Many years ago, I had a friend named Brian. This was before the internet and cell phones. I knew him for about a year. I didn't know him well, but I was good friends with his sister. He was a great guy. We hung out occasionally with mutual friends.
Starting point is 00:55:55 At one point, I kept getting this feeling that Brian was going to die in a car accident. I couldn't shake it, and I kept dismissing it. A couple of weeks later, Brian asked me for a ride across town. On the way, he asked me if I ever had the feeling that I was going to die. Of course, I said no, and I didn't tell him about what I had been thinking. He said that he had a feeling. I told him that's ridiculous and asked him how he thought it was going to happen. He said, a car accident. I was shocked. I went on to say that it's just in his head. No one can predict these things. He's going to be
Starting point is 00:56:31 fine. He didn't seem too confident that I was right. As far as I know, he never talked to anyone else about this. He told me that he left a note in his sock drawer for his father. They had a bit of a strained relationship like a lot of teenagers and parents do. They weren't talking at the time. He wanted his father to know that he loved him in case something happened. He wanted his father to know that, even though they didn't get along all the time, he knew his father loved him and was proud of him. The following Saturday, the feeling I had about Brian grew much stronger.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I became anxious and couldn't sit still. I was pacing around my apartment. I couldn't think about anything else. That evening, I decided I needed to find him. I called several mutual friends, Landline, to see if they knew where he was. Eventually, someone told me he was at a party. I drove there, but missed him by about 30 minutes. They said he went to a different party. I tried the other party, but he wasn't there. I went home and barely slept. The next morning, I got a call from his sister. The driver of the truck was drunk when it crashed. Brian was ejected and the truck crushed him. He was on life support at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I went to see him, but he was gone. Still alive on life support. There was no brain activity. His parents took him off life support the next day. Months later, his parents found the note that he wrote. His parents cried all day, and his father, who was devastated because of their strained relationship, found some closure and relief. A couple of months after that, they found a message from Brian on their answering machine,
Starting point is 00:58:08 telling them that he loves them. They said it wasn't there before. I heard from his sister the message was, at least, a few minutes long, and he had a lot to say. I've never experienced anything like this before or again. I still think about it occasionally. Sometimes it makes me cry. Sometimes it makes me happy to remember him. Has anyone heard about people experiencing this before?
Starting point is 00:58:33 Have you? I mean, there are some people that are very connected with energy. We had on our Father Knows spooky episode. Yeah, I remember that one. We had a listener write in from a real listener and she can tell when people die. Like she gets these multiple times it's come true for her. I literally just gave myself the chills. And so there are people out there that just have this six sense.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I mean, they're connected. The voicemail also weirds me out though, because I can't remember if it was on a Too Hot Takes episode or the Father Knows Something spooky episode we did, but there was a writing or a story about someone whose grandma had passed away and then called them and the grandma was on the phone. But at the time, like the grandma was already gone, but left a voicemail. So, I mean, I fully, I'm bought in. I'm bought in. So do you think the future's pre-written? Do you think at the moment the universe began, every event that was forthcoming
Starting point is 00:59:36 was pre-determined at that moment? Because that, if time works that way, then that would explain how you could predict a future event. Because that's kind of what we're talking about. This isn't necessarily energy happening. This is, okay, in a certain amount of time coming up, this event will happen. Maybe not to the level where you can say the Vikings will win or the, you know, the lottery is
Starting point is 01:00:06 going to be these numbers, but almost just like a partial ability to tap into a prewritten predetermined future. I don't know. Which would be weird because then we'd all feel like we had a free will, but all of us are just being little puppets. And we just, we can't, obviously we can't tell, but none of our decisions would actually be ours. Yeah, I'm not sure. I would like to think we do have some free will
Starting point is 01:00:35 and some choice. Well, everyone would hope so. Yeah, but I don't know. I think there are some things that are just like meant for us and fate, but I do still think you have some autonomy over your choices. I'm just saying to call it out as a car crash. Not even just the fact that,
Starting point is 01:00:52 yeah, I think I'm going to die in the next few weeks. No, I think it's going to be a car crash. Psychic. I mean, listen. Psychic. Explain our listener on the Father Knows episode. How did she know? Multiple deaths, multiple people.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Well, I need someone like that around me. And every time I have a hard decision, like, hey, should I go to this thing or should I do this with my night? Oh, you should do that. Okay. Perfect. Cool. I need someone like looking out for my future self. It's scary, but... But I don't know. That is absolutely wild. I know. And I don't know how I would process that having happened.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Because generally when you have someone writing notes, usually they're terminally ill or there's some threat coming after them. No, he felt it. He really like felt it in his bones that he needed to leave that note because something was going to happen. No one... People just don't leave notes out of the blue.
Starting point is 01:01:49 No, no, no. I know. Well, usually they do if it's like... Terminal. Or someone's coming after them or something crazy is going on. Yeah, that too. And I just... I don't know. I really hope I never tap into that energy. No. Because I don't wanna know.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I don't wanna be like, hey, whoever in my life. I got three weeks left. I have this feeling. That's not cool. I think that's what's hard about a diagnosis too when you do get sick, because it's like like you get told like I think about my mom's you know husband you have three to five years and you just sit there with that clock over your head trying to fight it holding on it's like god that's just you're sick I don't know I don't
Starting point is 01:02:39 know if that would help I don't know and then it gives some people a different spin and they are like I'm gonna seize every day. I'm gonna bucket list, I'm gonna ride a bull, I'm gonna skydive. Everyone handles it so differently. But I stuff. Well, for sure. But this sense is so different from that.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I know. Because this is, you know, three weeks, right? Was it three weeks? About. A few weeks. A few weeks. And so I feel like now now if I ever get that sense I'm gonna go crazy. I'm gonna just you know, buy some crazy shit go on some crazy trip Skydive like 500 times change it
Starting point is 01:03:17 Well, I just go ten times harder if I got three weeks True, and it's just off of a feeling, I don't know if I'm just gonna be like, all right, off to work. Yeah, that's tough. We do have some really interesting comments on this one. The top one, I don't really wanna get into because it does contain talks of self-harm
Starting point is 01:03:44 and it's a little heavy so if you do want to read that top comment it's about a dream this person had and it ended up coming true but the next top comment I had a very vivid dream about a guy I worked with we weren't all that close so it's strange I had a dream about him in the dream he was in a serious motorcycle accident and was brought to the level one trauma center I worked at as a surgical nurse. That part is real. He didn't make it.
Starting point is 01:04:11 The dream was so real, I honestly thought it was real. I was surprised to wake up from it. The next day in real life, I went to work and saw the guy I dreamed about the night before. I ran up to him and told him that I was happy to see he was alive. Of course, he was confused, so I told him about my dream. His face went pale. Turns out he had just bought a motorcycle the day before.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I had no way of knowing that. Yup, he got rid of the bike. I mean, because they didn't know each other. They like casually worked together, but like they weren't friends. They weren't close at all. So for our, the writer to have a dream about him. But enough to know like, all right,
Starting point is 01:04:53 you're not just coming up trying to freak me out. You actually genuinely. Yeah. Because that'd be the thing. If it was from some random person, it'd be freaky, but also you'd kind of be like, are you just going around trying to cause people a bunch of like,
Starting point is 01:05:05 distress, just fucking with them? But I would take that. Oh my God. I would take it so real came up to you and was like, here's what I saw. It's giving final destination. Yeah. Like if someone came up to me tomorrow and was like, Hey, you need to sell your car. I had the most realistic dream that your car, right after your warranty comes up, your tire falls off and you hit a semi truck. I'd get rid of it tomorrow. Well, but then there's some more of the lemma too,
Starting point is 01:05:34 because what if someone came up and said something about the horses? Well, I know that's a risk I take every time I get on. And then they're like, I saw this vividly on this exact blah, blah, blah. I know. What are you going to do? Get rid of the horses? I mean. Might have to. I don't know. I know it's really tough. It's crazy to think about. I mean, he sold his motorcycle.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Yeah. I know that's a good move for sure. That's more of an easy decision than these other things we're talking about. I know. There's another comment. I had a dream I was screaming my brother's name and saying he had died. I was so anxious over the next few weeks and I told my mom about their dream and I was very emotional.
Starting point is 01:06:19 I made a phone call and told my brother to be careful and I loved him. My nephew with the same name was killed a few months after the dream. I've always felt some type of way for not thinking of him and warning him the way I warned my brother. Still fucks with me today and probably always will. To add, I feel like I was privy to something
Starting point is 01:06:39 I didn't connect until it was too late. We need to figure out this dream stuff. We really need to figure out dreams. Are we tapping into something? I think we are. I definitely think we are. Is it an alternate universe? Is it a-
Starting point is 01:06:55 I think it's the energy being able to connect with us in a vulnerable state. What do you think it is? I don't know. The problem with my brain is I'm so obsessively curious about everything that I could have a million different careers. I could have a million lifetimes and still not get bored of trying, just diving into all these areas. Like I'd love to have one lifetime dedicated to researching dreams and really kind of trying to figure that whole world out.
Starting point is 01:07:28 I know. I just get so curious. Yeah, I am too. I'm really, like, chronically curious. And Alejandra and I talked about it on one of our paranormal episodes last year about visitation dreams and how we do believe it's those spirits trying to connect with us.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Because I had one about my grandma right after she died. And I was like at her funeral and she like sat up from her coffin and she was like, I'm okay, just know I'm okay. Or something along those lines. I was, I woke up and I was so scared, but I was like, yeah, that was grandma Ellen. And that was the like the only dream I ever had about her.
Starting point is 01:08:07 And it was right after she passed and just straight up. No, mm-mm. Yeah. That's no. Don't let your kids go to open casket funerals when they're little. It will fuck them up. Do the thing that people talk about where,
Starting point is 01:08:23 you come and you're sitting on the bed and I come sit next to you and it's like, hey, grandma, and then you can chat. Don't make me dream about you just... And then like, all I picture with that are the horror films where it's like, you sit up and then it's like... Oh my God, the crazy head twitch. And then it's like like the head starts turning. It turns in a circle.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Like no, if you want to come hang out, don't do that. I had so many bad dreams last night. Dude, my dreams lately have been crazy. Terrible dreams last night. Crazy. If you have any visitation dreams, please let us know in the comments. I read just about every comment on YouTube, so I would love to hear about other people's visitation dreams, especially if they're happy.
Starting point is 01:09:11 There is one last comment I'll read on this post before we move along. In 1998, over a period of months, I experienced recurring flashes in my mind where I could see my wife's face looking to her left out of the driver's seat of our car, her face illuminated by oncoming headlights. I never mentioned it to her. She died in an accident with a tractor trailer that hit her driver's door at 35 miles per hour. The only thing different
Starting point is 01:09:39 from my visions was that it occurred in the daytime. How? How do people know? Oh God. Well, and then it makes you wonder, do you try and prevent? Can you mess with fate? Can you mess with that? If that is fate, can you intervene? Like with the sell the motorcycle? Because you can't have your wife not drive anywhere forever.
Starting point is 01:10:03 I know. So, I don't, it just makes, if I ever had this then, something, some vision like this, oh, I'm gonna tell you. You have to. But at the same time, if it's unprevent, I don't know, this. Well, this, okay, I lied.
Starting point is 01:10:23 We're gonna read one more comment. So someone else goes, yes, this is real, I don't know this. Well, this, okay, I lied. We're gonna read one more comment. So someone else goes, yes, this is real. I've had it. At nine, I was plagued by dreams of my mom dying in the home for months before it actually happened. She would sometimes say it wasn't true, but as the months went by, she would just tell me, quote, I'm not scared.
Starting point is 01:10:42 After it happened, I found a long letter she wrote to me years prior saying that she was having the same thoughts and dreams about her own mortality. Someone commented, did she die from natural causes? OP, who like posted that comment said, she had a very sudden brain aneurysm rupture. Now we know it runs in my family. Okay, well, so with something like that,
Starting point is 01:11:10 do you think there's something within, not energy wise, but physically, that the brain knows and could start to, I don't know why the daughter would see it. That's the thing, the premonition. The mom then writing the note, I just wonder if there's some sort of signal or chemical created in the brain that almost, if looked into, could in some way, obviously I'm speaking, you know, just totally off the, I don't know what I'm talking about,
Starting point is 01:11:47 but then that could technically, I guess, predict an aneurysm or something, because they're totally unpredictable, right? They could just happen to us sitting here. Aneurysms are, they're so wild. They're so wild. My neighbor growing up had one, and my mom was the one that found her and like got her
Starting point is 01:12:05 to the hospital. She like, oh, you can survive. Yeah. Yeah. So what happened is they, they had a life flight her down to the cities, but there's a couple of different types of surgeries. But I believe what she had was like a coil. They essentially like put a coil in her brain to stop the bleeding.
Starting point is 01:12:21 How do we figure that shit out? That were magic. in her brain to stop the bleeding? How do we figure that shit out? That, we're magic, like humans. I mean, we have a long way to go in terms of like the, figuring out the dreams and all this other stuff, but man, we've become, you know, we've come up with some of the cool shit. Yeah, yep, so it's coiling, also called endovascular coiling, coil placement, or coil embolization.
Starting point is 01:12:46 It's used to treat brain aneurysms. Wow. Mm-hmm. It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. But yeah, saved her life. It was really, she was unwell, absolutely unwell. She was really lucky to make that.
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Starting point is 01:13:05 Okay. Another one of this week's partners is Stitch Fix. I used to love shopping, but something about going into a store these days, the experience just feels different. Especially if you go to a store where it feels like they don't even want you in there or you have to go into the center of an awkward room to even see a mirror as you try stuff on, which is why you need to try Stitch Fix. With Stitch Fix, you're gonna get a personal stylist
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Starting point is 01:14:29 Ghostly guardian angel saves my life. So this happened back in 2000 and is absolutely true. My first wife and I were separated and going through a divorce. At this point in time, I was living alone in the marital home. One night I went out drinking with a few friends and staggered home around 2 a.m. The house was empty and being a little worse for wear, I turned on the TV,
Starting point is 01:14:49 plonked myself down in an armchair, and lit a cigarette. I'm not sure how much time had passed. I must have dozed off, but all of a sudden, a loud, booming voice shouted into my right ear, Wake up! I literally leapt from the chair in a dazed panic and began looking around the room searching for the source of the voice. That's when I felt the heat. While I had dozed in the armchair, the cigarette had slipped from my fingers and landed onto my chest, smoldering at my sweater until it finally began to catch fire. I immediately patted out the small flames
Starting point is 01:15:26 and tore off the sweater before frantically searching every room in the house for whoever had woken me up. But the house was empty. No one was there but me. I eventually gave up my search and returned to the living room with my heart racing. The air was still filled with lingering smoke from my burnt clothing and the extinguished cigarette lay on the floor next to my discarded sweater. I can still hear that booming voice to this day, and it still sends shivers down my spine. The way I described it doesn't do it justice. The words seem to start in a low, drawn-out rumble and build in volume and power until reaching a terrifying crescendo.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Nevertheless, I dread to think what might have happened if the voice hadn't shouted in my ear and woken me up. I had always considered myself a level-headed skeptic up until that point in my life. Now I'm more open-minded to the possibility that there are things in this world that we shall never understand. As a footnote, I would also like to mention that my father had passed away from cancer a few months before this happened. I'm not saying that he was the one who potentially saved my life, but it's worth noting. My dad had been a sergeant in the army for many years before he died, and although he never raised his voice to me, I was informed that he had been a sergeant in the army for many years before he died and although he never raised his voice to me
Starting point is 01:16:46 I was informed that he had been well respected and feared by his subordinates Wow Don't you think you'd wake up though if your sweater was on fire? I don't know. I think if not to take away from the story, but just Actually, I mean like if this started on fire and I'm passed out. I don't think necessarily, no. There's people that sleep through dogs eating their faces off.
Starting point is 01:17:13 How? There have been cases, medications, alcohol. You can just be passed out, seriously. Through pain like that? Damn. Yeah, so there I was thinking about this. I'm like, I've heard this before. So there's a woman named Wendy Hamriding
Starting point is 01:17:36 who a dog chewed off a part of her face in an attempt to wake her up after she was knocked unconscious. Okay, wait. So the dog wasn't attacking her. The dog was knocked unconscious. Okay, wait. So the dog wasn't attacking her. The dog was trying to, okay, I don't know. So she was, she fell unconscious while drinking. She says the attack saved her life
Starting point is 01:17:56 by stopping her alcoholism. So yeah, I mean, he said he had gone out. He was drinking, he was worse for wear. So, yeah. Okay. Well, regardless. There's another woman, Isabelle Denore, dog mauled her face after she passed out from sleeping pills.
Starting point is 01:18:16 I'm telling you. What is going on? This shit can happen. We got some dangerous substances out there. Well, that is bizarre, okay? That's bizarre. I mean, this episode is scary spooky. Well, that is bizarre. Okay, that's bizarre. I mean, this episode is scary, spooky, scary, spooky. When I take one step on the floor of our room
Starting point is 01:18:33 and you're like, oh, like waking up and shit. I've never known a sound sleeper, but. I used to be a sound sleeper. I don't know what happened. It was, yeah, it was great. Anyway, I think that it was just a combination of a bunch of wild stuff, but I'm trying to hear that voice and then the panic of running around the house
Starting point is 01:19:01 trying to find someone. Oh, I would too, 100%. That is, that's some scary shit. I think this was a guardian angel. I do think there was a spirit, whether the writer's dad, but I do think some guardian angel stepped in. I mean, there's so many people out there that have stories about guardian angels.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I just wonder then why some other very preventable situations, there's not guardian angels that's come in. I mean, I just, there's a curiosity again, where why in this situation, like what connected that? I mean, there goes the question of like, when is your time? And why is some people's time so much sooner than others? You don't think you can mess with when your time is?
Starting point is 01:19:52 I don't know. I think you can definitely speed up your timeline, but then we're getting into the predetermined future thing again. I know. Because if your time is set and you can't influence that regardless, that helps the theory of the future is already pre-written. I know, and I don't know where I stand on this because I think there's some people that are truly doing such amazing, incredible things and then their life is just over before they know it. And it's like they're gone too soon.
Starting point is 01:20:24 And I feel like everyone's just gone too soon because I wish we all lived forever. But I don't know. Especially our little babies. I know, the little ponies. But I mean, we just had Liam Payne today. Like I can't believe he passed away today. And it's just like, what?
Starting point is 01:20:42 What? I just feel like any death, I just like, I have a really hard time with it. So I don't, I don't know where I stand on fate and all this. Right. Well, and that starts to, you know, the phrase, oh, it was their time. Is that just then a tool of making the living feel, you know, more at peace with that death? I don't know. You know, it's, more at peace with that death. I don't know. You know, it's just crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:07 I know, and it's like a hate, I guess, for me, because there is like another saying that goes along with that, like, oh, they're in a better place. I hate when people say that shit. Because are they? No, a better place is here with their family. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:22 That's sorry, that's so unrelated, but I just hate that. Well, I just think that. Don't say that to people Like I, that's sorry, that's so unrelated, but I just hate that. Don't say that to people. I think that generally comes into play more when someone is suffering and every day of existence, they're in a crazy pain or something's going on, they're battling some illness. But say at least they're not in pain.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah, no, I agree. A better place is here, not in pain, ideal world. But you know, you know? I know. Tomatoes model maybe. But this one reminds me of when my grandpa told me the story about my dad. And I don't know if I told that on the show,
Starting point is 01:21:56 but it's where- The sleepover? Yeah. You haven't talked about that. I think it was my grandpa's sister. Her and her husband had two kids and my grandpa and my grandma just had my dad. He was an only child just like me. And they always hung out all the time and the kids would hang out and play.
Starting point is 01:22:17 And so there was one night where they were over at the sisters, my grandpa's sister's place. And my dad just was begging to sleep over and have a sleepover with those other kids because they were gonna be there the next day anyway. They didn't, it's not like they were on a trip, but they were just, they live a certain, I don't know how far away. And my grandpa just had this feeling
Starting point is 01:22:41 and wasn't feeling very well and just said, nope, you gotta come home. We're all staying at home tonight. No sleepover tonight. I know, and I remember him telling us this story somewhat recently and he was like, I don't know what came over me, but I was very stern about it too. Yeah, it was like a-
Starting point is 01:22:59 He was like, no. There was no budging. Yeah. And then my grandpa, my grandma and my dad went back over there the next day and my grandpa found the two kids had died in their, they were in a separate part of the house or they're in a separate little cabin thing. It's blurry for me. I got to have them refresh me, but they had carbon monoxide poisoning.
Starting point is 01:23:29 And he went in and found the two kids and that would have been my dad as well. And he tried calling them too. He like tried calling them all morning cause he like woke up or something. He was like, I just had a bad feeling. And I tried calling and calling and no one was answering. So I went over there and that's when he found everyone.
Starting point is 01:23:46 But then it gets crazy. Cause then you're like, you hear this story. And well, if there's no my dad, then there's no me. There's no you. And it's just crazy. Guardian angel. I don't know. And it's like, was that a premonition on your grandpa?
Starting point is 01:24:02 Like, what was that? I don't know. It's crazy. Top comment on this one. The spirits are real. Next comment. I think it was your father. He will always be looking out for you.
Starting point is 01:24:18 There's another comment. Wow, I'm so glad you're safe. Your experience is so valid and true. I can feel it resonate with me as I read your words. Similarly, I've heard that booming voice in my head, and it was who I think it was my brother, who had passed five months before. I'd stopped drinking on January 25th, and on February 14th or 15th in the early morning, my life was a wreck, like real bad, and I decided to drink again.
Starting point is 01:24:44 I picked the bottle of wine up off the counter, and all of a sudden, a booming voice yelled my name and said, put the bottle down now and call your sponsor. I'm not shitting anyone on how real this was because it happened. The way my life was going at the time, I truly believe that if I hadn't listened to that voice, I probably wouldn't be here now.
Starting point is 01:25:04 See, that one is so, I mean, I'm starting to feel like this voice is something like you've never heard before. It's not like an internal monologue of yours waking yourself up out of instinct in a moment of danger. Like with the fire. That's very much like, no, you're awake, you're making a conscious decision right now.
Starting point is 01:25:27 And then you just, you know, inadvertent or involuntarily, involuntary, on, in, involuntarily. I'm not the only one that messes up words on this podcast. Cheers. Ruin, ruin. Well, that's just a mispronunciation. Ruin, ruin. Well, that's just a mispronunciation. That's very different. Involuntarily get this message from somewhere.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Yeah. In a booming, I feel like the booming voice sounds a little scary. I wonder if it's because like, if think about if you were a ghost sitting there in this other realm that no one can hear you, no one can see you, you probably have to get so overly excited and loud for it to like, broach, you know what I mean? So it's like, you're probably back there behind the veil like,
Starting point is 01:26:15 why aren't you listening to me? Or like, you know what I mean? Like I'm just imagining if I was a ghost. And so in order to like, break that barrier, I feel like you would have to, that's why everyone has these same experiences. There's one more comment I'll read on this post before we move on. And it kind of leads into that. I'm sure it was your dad. I had a voice calling my name three times in a row
Starting point is 01:26:39 with each one louder and more forceful. Three days before each of my parents passed away 14 months apart I felt like they were telling me to wake up and see what was happening that's crazy to happen not once but three times yeah more forceful louder every time so do you think if anyone else were in the room it would just be silent I don't know. Like these aren't physically being shouted through the air. These are being communicated, but sound very loud to you in your own mind. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:15 I could see it. Like the tree falls in the forest kind of thing. I could see other people being able to hear it if there was someone else in the room. But they wouldn't because these people are always conveniently alone or is that when it's easiest to send the messages when they're alone? Well, I think too, if you look at the times where these voices might have interacted with living people, this was a time of need for this person. They were on fire. Maybe they wouldn't have needed to be the booming voice if there were other people around.
Starting point is 01:27:51 So it was such a dire situation where they had enough energy built up, like enough to like empower and create that energy, that disturbance. This is gonna be such a goofy episode for people to listen to if they're big non-believers because obviously what we've talked about a bit in like my takes just now, I'm like, oh, to break the barrier and energy. I'm like, I get it. I sound goofy, maybe a little
Starting point is 01:28:17 foo-foo. I mean, the reality is I'm such a science nerd and freak. the more you dive into certain things, the more you realize that nobody knows. We have no idea. We don't know. That's the best kept secret of all time is what happens when you die? What happens to energy? Is there more, are there spirits saving us? Are there spirits haunting us? Is it like, what is all this? And the dreams and the dream world, what are we connecting to? Nobody knows.
Starting point is 01:28:56 No. So, I mean, you can say skeptic or a believer and whatever it is, nobody really knows. And that's what makes it really fun. Because it's like, what if, what if. The one thing I wanna hold onto, and that I would love so much,
Starting point is 01:29:20 is if somehow after this life, you're able to observe and see what happens on earth and with humans, because I'm gonna die unsatisfied in the fact that I will not know, you know, hopefully make it to Mars in my lifetime, but where we go as a species, where do we spread out to? Do we make it to the next star? Do we find other life out there? Do we figure out what the
Starting point is 01:29:50 real beginning and end of the universe are? Is it a multiverse? There's so many big, big things and in the quantum realm. Sorry, I could go all day. It's space physics talk, but I know we got to start doing some unsupervised content again and get back into the space. But that's what I'm so burning. I have such a burning desire to know. I know. And a lot of that will not be sorted in my time here.
Starting point is 01:30:18 No. So I want to know. I know. Well, I will just say before we move along, I did reach out and message this person just to make sure that I could share their story. And they also provided more context that this happened in Sheffield, England, around autumn time.
Starting point is 01:30:36 My father passed away in April that same year. So I think it's a beautiful thing to like also just envision your family watching over you. And it's kind of crazy to think about. And like, I think about my dad passing all the time. And, um, I know, I know. And I, I do think he would be one to be that booming voice. Just give me a sign, Jerry. Not anytime soon, though. No, of course not. But like, anyone I know, I don't want to see you go. But if you go, come on, show me, tell me. You know.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Because then to see that and be like, it's 100% it's that person. I think we just got to start putting you on ghost tours. Well, no, we don't need no bad ghost round, you know. That's true. Don't need, don't need that. No. Mm-mm. We have been on tour doing live shows and we've gotten to a couple of theaters and every
Starting point is 01:31:35 time I walk in I'm like, any ghosts? Have you seen any ghosts? And every single person has said, yes, our theater has ghosts. And then they're like, they're happy ghosts. I know. I'm like I thank God. Another one of this week's partners is Shopify. Cha-ching!
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Starting point is 01:33:16 Okay, so this last one is coming from Rooz85 R-O-O-S-85. It is titled, I thought my boyfriend was the love of my life until I discovered he was drugging me at night. No, no, no. Lately, I've been waking up still exhausted.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Even if I went to bed early, I'd wake up feeling like I haven't slept in days. Trying to get out of bed for work was almost impossible, which was strange for me because I was always a high-energy sort of person. A few hours of sleep and I was always good to go. I was at a loss as to what was happening. After a barrage of tests, even my doctor couldn't find anything wrong with me. The only recent change in my life was my boyfriend
Starting point is 01:34:07 who had moved in and I was sharing a bed with for the first time in my life. Stephen was the first love of my life and this was my first serious relationship. I didn't wanna spoil things by making him sleep in the spare room. I liked having Stephen around. He made a real fuss over me
Starting point is 01:34:23 and he would bring me chamomile tea every night before bed. The pain in my hip was sharp and pulsated up to the right side of my body. I jumped from my bed and nearly collapsed to the floor as I struggled to get to the bathroom. Steven, can you get in here? I cried. A big dark bruise covered my hip
Starting point is 01:34:40 as if I was assaulted in my sleep with a metal bar. What's wrong? Steven said as he came rushing into the bathroom. Did I fall out of bed or something? Stephen had a weird expression on his face. I could swear he looked guilty about something. Probably. I don't know. His response was dismissive, which sent my brain spiraling with all sorts of thoughts.
Starting point is 01:35:04 This is not normal, Stephen. I think there's something wrong with me. You should probably see a doctor then, he said coldly before quickly leaving the bathroom. My doctor was still at a loss and suggested I should see someone who could rule out anything nefarious. Steven was still dismissive of me as we drove to the hospital. I'm sure it's nothing. You're probably just stressed about work. People don't wake up with bruises over stress, I angrily thought to myself.
Starting point is 01:35:34 The doctor at the hospital took my blood and did all sorts of tests, including a stress test. I should have been happy when the test came back clear, but it only made me feel like I was losing my mind. Something was definitely wrong with me. I would prescribe you sedatives, but your blood work shows you are already on Natrazepam," explained the doctor. I was dumbstruck and wasn't sure what the doctor was talking about. I've never taken so much as a painkiller in my life. The doctor's face looked like how I felt.
Starting point is 01:36:06 He took out his charts and looked over them again. No, you definitely tested positive for natrazepam, which is a powerful sedative. Later that evening, as I sat in my bed, a million different thoughts ran through my head. How was that even possible? I thought to myself. As I sat there, Steven walked in with my chamomile tea. And just as I was about to put it to my lips, I was struck by the most unnerving thought. The realization that my boyfriend was drugging me hit me like a ton of bricks and filled me with dread that I had never felt before. I emptied the contents of the cup down the sink in the bathroom before jumping back into bed. "'Was it hot enough for you?'
Starting point is 01:36:50 asked Steven as he jumped into bed beside me. "'Perfect, as always.' I felt as if I was lying beside a complete stranger. Had I ever really known him, I thought to myself. As I lay there terrified, he was doing unimaginable things to me all while I slept. I must have drifted off at some stage because when I woke up the room was a mess and Steven was nowhere to be seen. My body ached all over and it felt like I was in a fight. What the hell was
Starting point is 01:37:21 he doing to me in my sleep? I thought. I'd made the decision to go to the police, but I needed evidence, or it was just my word against his. I'd purchased a hidden camera and set it up in the bedroom, pointing towards the bed. I woke up exhausted as usual, which unfortunately meant he had done something to me while I slept, but I had it on camera. I opened my laptop to check the footage. For the first couple hours of sleep, nothing happened. For a moment, I had hoped I was imagining everything until I watched myself jolt from the bed. At first, I couldn't believe what I was doing. It felt like I was watching a horror movie as I watched myself crawl up the bedroom wall like some possessed demon. I continued to crawl up the bedroom wall like some possessed demon.
Starting point is 01:38:05 I continued to crawl up the wall onto the ceiling looking down over Steven like I was ready to pounce on him. Steven woke and it was strange watching him because it was like he was prepared for what was happening and didn't seem fazed by it. He took a stick out from under the bed as I pounced from the ceiling above and he spent the next hour fighting me off. I watched as he subdued me onto the bed before pulling out handcuffs and cuffing me to the bed. I looked at the marks on my wrists which made sense now. As soon as Steven came home
Starting point is 01:38:35 from work, I ran and threw my arms around him. Quote, why didn't you tell me what you were going through every night? Steven shrugged his shoulders. I thought you knew. And usually the drugs I was giving you made things a little easier. Why are you even still with me? Well, my last girlfriend was a jealous psychopath. You're a walk in the park compared to her. And that's on spooky paranormal. Bye. Now I'm going to be the skeptic. Okay. Ain't nobody crawling up the wall.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Nobody's going on the ceiling and nobody's taking out a stick every night. Okay. I'm like trying to fly, swat the fly back into bed. on the ceiling and nobody's taking out a stick every night. Okay. And like trying to fly swat the fly back into bed. Okay. Okay. Let me be a bit of a devil's advocate cause I'm sure we're all giggling at that. Go for it.
Starting point is 01:39:36 At that end cap here. Yeah. There was a man that climbed up the building in Chicago without any contraptions like fucking Spider-Man. Yeah, those are good climbers. He had suction cups. No, he didn't. No, I'm Googling what building it was.
Starting point is 01:39:53 The actual, God, what is this big ass word? Accenture Tower, it's in the West Loop. It was all caught on camera and he's got little chalk bags. Yeah, I mean, there's some amazing climbers out there. Yeah, this is a good climber. They ain't climbing the drywall. This guy looks like he is that one free solo motherfucker just climbing with nothing.
Starting point is 01:40:17 That guy's crazy too. They're wild, yeah. Crazy. But I do think there are people that report possessions all the time. That's fine. That's fine. It's all fine and dandy. Super fine. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Just fine. But this is where you pushed me over the limit, okay? The story was, it was really good until the climb with the wall part. Really good, you know? I was tracking, I was getting into it. until the climb with the wall part. Really good, you know? I was tracking, I was getting into it, and I was about to say, how scary is it that you can start dating someone, and this is the crazy shit about dating.
Starting point is 01:40:58 You meet someone random, unless you meet, you know, more of a warm welcome through friends or whatever it is, but you meet someone and you don't know who the hell they are. You don't know a damn thing about them. And what we've seen, what I've seen for movies and everything else, people are amazing actors, amazing. You could meet someone, date them for one, two, three, four months,
Starting point is 01:41:25 get really comfortable, start to fall in love, start staying over, and you have no idea who you're sleeping next to. No, I don't think you know, I don't think you ever truly know. It's a gamble. People flip, all of a sudden people get married and they're totally different people the next day. We just had, oh my God, we literally just had this on Father Knows.
Starting point is 01:41:48 The past two episodes of Father Knows have been insane, but we just had a listener write in. Her husband fought for her, like worked his ass off to get her and really loved her and cherished her. And the minute that he signed the marriage license, everything flipped. Everything flipped. Everything flipped. I don't get that.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Everything. And then we had another write-in where this woman was talking about how her husband was so amazing. They just recently had twins and he despises the babies. Says, oh my God, this one comment haunts me. He says, you're teaching the babies to rely on you too much. Always the babies.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Yeah. The babies. I'm like, this is how shaken baby syndrome happens. But I'm just like, I don't think you ever truly know who you're married to. I don't know. I don't know. No matter how much I love you, I'll never truly know you.
Starting point is 01:42:44 I'm not in your little brain. You know me pretty damn well. I will't know. No matter how much I love you, I'll never truly know you. I'm not in your little brain. You know me pretty damn well. I will say that. It scares me sometimes. Because we do that thing where you talk and it's like, we want to finish each other's sentences kind of thing. Finish each other's sandwiches.
Starting point is 01:42:58 This story was leading me down that path of, it's kind of again, never get too comfortable, never feel too safe. No. Always have your guard up on at some level because you have to protect yourself. For sure. And it's just so scary to think they, you could get close with someone, they could move in, they could start putting stuff in your drinks or your food.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Slugs. And you'd have- Slugs was real. And you'd have food. Slugs. Slugs was real. And you'd have no idea. But this one is just a little more creepy and dark where you're putting it in tea before you go to sleep and it's a sedative and that leads down a whole just- No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:43:41 We had a real story like this too. A guy before road trips was drugging his girlfriend's drinks and was putting enormous amounts of sedatives or Benadryl or something in the person's drinks. It's not far off. It's like get out. Okay. And what do you think about this?
Starting point is 01:44:02 This is coming from the BBC News, okay? I'm looking at the website. Oh yeah. BBC News. It is from January 29th, 2014. Police captain confirms children possessed by demons. A US police captain says he believed a story about a woman who claimed her children were possessed by demons.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Latoya Amens from Indiana said her three children walked up walls, levitated, and spoke in voices. Official reports filed in 2012 backed up her claims, with psychologists stating that they saw the nine-year-old child speak in different deep voices and walk up the wall backwards. That is a quote from a psychologist's report. Quote, up the wall backwards. Quote, he flipped over and landed on his feet, they added. Gary Police Captain Charles Austin, who has more than 35 years of experience,
Starting point is 01:45:07 said he has been convinced by the story. According to a local newspaper, The Indianapolis Star, he described himself as a believer after visiting the house and interviewing Miss Amens and her family. Growling noises. Can we go meet them? No, but let's see what happens. Official
Starting point is 01:45:27 Indiana state documents detail more events apparently witnessed by medical experts and those outside of the family. The children's names were removed from the papers to protect their identities. Quote, medical staff reported they observed the children and heard the seven-year-old making growling noises and his eyes rolled into the back of his head. They observed Blankname lifted and thrown into the wall with nobody touching him. The report also detailed the time when the seven-year-old walked up the wall in front of a number of medical professionals.
Starting point is 01:46:03 wall in front of a number of medical professionals. Quote, name blank, began to have a weird smile on his face, and he charged at the grandmother's stomach and head-butted her several times until she grabbed his hands and started praying. He was speaking in a different deep voice saying, quote, it's time to die, I will kill you, and staring around the room. He had a weird grin on his face and began to walk backwards while the grandmother was
Starting point is 01:46:28 holding his hands, and he walked up the wall backwards while holding the grandmother's hands, and he never let go. He flipped over and landed on his feet in front of the grandmother and sat down in the chair. It goes on. At other times, Ms. Amon said she saw her daughter levitate out of her bed, while the 12-year-old also reported being, quote, thrown across the room and grabbed by dark shadows. Elsewhere in the reports, it shows that an unnamed witness has suggested the mother may
Starting point is 01:47:00 have mental health concerns. They also said it may be that the quote, children are performing for the mother and that she's encouraging the behavior. Was this at a time before cell phones or recording equipment? If you caught wind of this- I mean, this was 2012.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Okay, 2012. So if you caught wind of this as a medical professional or a police chief, are you not going in there with a fucking camera? Pre-AI, if there's a video from pre-AI that shows, I want to see this damn thing. I mean, there's, there are videos of people being possessed and having exorcisms performed on
Starting point is 01:47:43 them. There's also really great actors in movies that play that role very well too. And CGI completes the icing, you know, icing on the cake. Well, what if it's like from the 1900s? Early 1900s, because 1900s could be 1999 as well. Just pre-AI, pre-crazy CGI, like, come on. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Capture it. What are we doing? I'm sure it's out there. I'm sure it's out there. We can do a little research. I wanna see these acrobatics. So the three children were removed from the family home by authorities after the reports were filed.
Starting point is 01:48:17 According to the Indianapolis Star, the day after the children were taken from the Amens, the hospital chaplain called on Reverend Mike Magonois, Magono, I don't know, to carry out an exorcism on the children were taken from the Amens, the hospital chaplain called on Reverend Mike Magnois to carry out an exorcism on the children and their mother. Quote, whenever you praise God in Latin, no reaction, he said. Quote, but you start condemning the demon, condemning the evil spirit, and all of a sudden, she, the child, is reacting to that. The children were returned six months later when the problems subsided.
Starting point is 01:48:53 There are now new tenants on the property and the landlord has not received any further reports of demonic possession. Do you think you have to disclose that when you rent to new tenants? I mean, technically- Or do you think it's like, ha ha, rent to new tenants? I mean, technically... Or do you think it's like, ha ha, thanks for signing, please, best of luck? I don't think you have to disclose.
Starting point is 01:49:11 No. Hey, there's been crazy fucking paranormal possessed activity here. I mean, the rules, laws... Because you've never rented again. Yeah, and the laws are very short term. Like even in California, you only have to disclose someone dying in the home if you're selling it and it's only for a couple of years. Like our house, they didn't disclose someone died
Starting point is 01:49:33 in our house, we found out because of the people we bought us from. Well, because it was a long, long time ago. Exactly. So there's statute of limitations. I mean, unless it's a new build, chances are someone's died in your house. True, true.
Starting point is 01:49:44 But you rented a murder house, double homicide, the rental company didn't have to tell you. Obludgeoning. So bad. Really bad. So bad. So I think there's certain laws and A brutal murder house.
Starting point is 01:49:58 If they don't even tell you about death, I don't think they're gonna tell you about the demons. That's true. Like there's no way. God, and you just unknowingly, I don't think they're going to tell you about the demons. That's true. Like there's no way. God. And you just unknowingly, yes, this place will be perfect for me and my family. So yeah, I mean, you gotta be careful moving into places.
Starting point is 01:50:14 I just, this is crazy. So given this real story, the last one we read, yeah, we giggled at it, but it doesn't seem so crazy now, does it? Happened in our own backyard of Indiana. Listen here, listen. I'm stressed. It's a little outside the bounds of my skepticism, all right?
Starting point is 01:50:35 It's getting out there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if you wanna know which are real and not real, look in the description. If you wanna know which are real and not real, look in the description. If you wanna know now, I'll tell you. But for those that don't wanna know, goodbye. Thank you for joining us on another episode of Too Hot Takes.
Starting point is 01:50:57 Please head over to Patreon. We have way more spooky stuff, more free content. October's free bonus story was nuts. I still, I'm just shocked that there's people out there like that. And we've got some live show content hitting Patreon. You know, it's gonna be a good time over there. Yep. Other than that, we only have five or six shows left of tour.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Our next stop is Atlanta, Georgia. We heard you guys. You were telling us you wanted to come and we are so, so excited to see you. We're coming. I know, I feel like I'm gonna do a Keith Lee food tour while I'm there. So send me your Atlanta recs, but really, really excited for the next stint of live shows.
Starting point is 01:51:37 But other than that, for those that don't wanna know the truth, goodbye. Until next time. Until next time. Until next time. So every single story I read, up until the very last one was real. The very last one was coming from r slash no sleep,
Starting point is 01:51:59 which is a subreddit meant for more of the creative writing horror stories. Oh yeah, it was creative for sure. Yeah, I know the giggles, we couldn't contain it. But, I mean, there are real life experiences, you know what I mean? So, are you a believer? Are you not a believer? Had to Spotify. If you're on the fence, let's get in the bus.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Let's go to that bridge. No. Let's make it reality. No, thank you. But I will be putting a poll on Spotify and YouTube. Head over there. I want to see how many believers we have versus non-believers. And who's... yeah, but there's people in the middle. Well, polls... we might be able to select three options on both platforms. We'll see. But thank you guys so much for being here. I hope you enjoyed this spooky episode. And if you want more and don't wanna go to Patreon,
Starting point is 01:52:49 we are also doing a full spooky episode or two, we'll see on Father Knows Something. All listener write-ins. All listener write-ins, all real experiences. So it's gonna be really, really good. There's some crazy shit. I know. And we have some evidence as well.
Starting point is 01:53:07 So head over there. But thank you guys so much for joining us. Bye. Bye. Thanks for watching!

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