Two Hot Takes - 196: Naughty or Nice? Ft. Amanda Lehan-Canto & Tommy Bowe

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Amanda Lehan-Canto & Tommy Bowe from Smosh! We're taking a little bit off Santa's plate this year, and making our own naughty or nice list. W...hat list would you put someone on that leaves their partner in a dangerous situation? Or another who wants to wear her MILs wedding dress but SIL is now upset? Another Smosh infinity stone collected hehe, but most importantly I can't wait to hear your takes on these ones! Checkout Amanda and Tommy's Content :) https://www.instagram.com/filmingamanda/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/tomeybones/?hl=en https://www.youtube.com/smosh https://www.youtube.com/@smoshcast MERCH IS ON SALE HERE ! https://shop.twohottakes.com I can't wait to see you all in these, especially at our live shows!! Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Our SubReddit to Submit YOUR Stories!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Partners: Essie: Shop essie nail polish in-store @ Target, Ulta, CVS, all the stores you’re already shopping at! Or online at your preferred Essie retailer! Smalls: https://www.smalls.com/ Promo Code: THT Lume: http://lumedeodorant.com/tht Audible: http://Audible.com/tht for 30 days free!  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are we ready? Ready. So ready. Here we go! Welcome, you guys. Hi. To Too Hot Takes. Hello, hi. Hi.
Starting point is 00:00:09 My voice always drops a couple octaves. I feel like as soon as there's a podcast mic in front of me, I'm like, how are we doing this? Yeah, because that's what I feel like. That's podcast. Yeah. That's good. But it's not.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Too Hot Takes is awesome. Oh, thank you. It's the best. It's so funny. It's so great. Reddit is... I hadn't discovered Reddit really until I started working at Smosh. And now I actually go on it. And I'm like, this is wild.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Shouldn't go on Reddit. I don't think I should. Has this beautiful set been revealed yet? No, this is brand new. For our holiday episode. Look at this beautiful set been revealed yet? No, this is brand new. Look at this, everybody. For our holiday episode. Look at this gorgeous set. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I'm obsessed. I'm losing my mind over this. Tommy is just like the little hype man over here today. It's Pesto the penguin. No, I'm kidding. This is not Pesto. You know what Pesto looks like? I love Pesto.
Starting point is 00:00:59 He is getting his new feathers. He probably already has them. I'm out of the loop. The baby? The big baby. The big baby. Pesto, Mudang. I'm out of the loop. The baby? The big baby? The big baby. That's like... Pesto, mudang. I mean...
Starting point is 00:01:09 So cute. I love them all. I love them all. It looks so good here. Thank you. And I wore a festive sweater. Oh. And you? And I looked for mine this morning and it's gone.
Starting point is 00:01:19 It's okay. We have this blanket. It's festive. It's festive. Yeah, a friend made that. A listener made that. This was made by a person? Uh-huh. Yeah, one of our friends in Colorado. Damn! This was taken forever. It's so beautiful and soft.
Starting point is 00:01:31 It's one of the best blankets I've ever touched. I'm obsessed. I know. It's so good. But hi guys. Welcome back to another episode of Two Hot Takes. I'm your host, Morgan. And today I'm joined by Amanda and Tommy from Smosh.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Hello. Ha ha. Ha ha. That's one of those horns you go, eh, eh. You know the pongy? Yeah. The clown ones? That's so good.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Pongy? Both of you. You're like, shut up. No. No, we're crazy. I like, I just go about my life making random sound effects. I'm like, sometimes they're too much, but I'm like, you guys actually have the talent. Well, you don't need talent to do sound effects.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I feel like you do, because otherwise you just sound goofy. That's true. You sound goofy, you guys just sound good. But today, you know, Santa is a busy guy. Oh, yeah. He's out there, there's a lot of kiddos he's got to get to. So Santa, you know, I think that's why he can't get to the adults.
Starting point is 00:02:29 There's too many kids. He's so busy. Crazy. So we're going to help Santa out and we are making our own naughty or nice list. Oh, I love this. Awesome. Pure Reddit, naughty or nice.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I love this. Yeah, we've got, think about all the Reddit stories you've heard this year and how many of them are firmly planted on the naughty list. Almost all of them. A lot. Yeah, a lot. Yeah. There's a few that I think are slipping through the cracks right now, so we're gonna see where
Starting point is 00:03:00 they end up. Okay. I'm excited. Are we gonna, do we say Naughtier Nice after? they end up. Okay. I'm excited. Are we going to... Do we say naughty or nice after? You sure can. Okay. Because sometimes halfway through you're like, mmm...
Starting point is 00:03:10 Naughty. Well, then you get a couple of comments or even an update and then you're like, mmm... So true. The update really changes things. It really does. It can shift everything.
Starting point is 00:03:18 It does. But let's dive in. Yay! He he he! I love those! Yay! I love that! Yay! Okay, this first one for us, coming from Emma the asshole, 22 days old now, titled, Emma the asshole for telling my sister-in-law she shouldn't have a Christmas tree.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Oh, okay. Fun. My brother's wife works from home. My brother works in an office. He does the household chores, cooks, and takes the kids to and from school. He told us that's part of why they're not doing Thanksgiving, and they most likely won't do a traditional Christmas either. Sister-in-law was pissed and said she'll do the tree.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I said, quote, I don't think you should. She asked me why. I said, quote, considering my brother will be working and you'll be home, no one is going to watch those kids. They have a history of tearing shit up. She went quiet and everyone else kept talking. A mutual friend called me up and said, I shouldn't have gotten involved. My nephews do have a history of getting hurt
Starting point is 00:04:44 and breaking things when they're home without my brother though. Am I the asshole? Okay, without her brother. So she's kind of saying, don't focus on the tree because then who's gonna watch your kids? Watch your kids. So she essentially just gave a huge dig
Starting point is 00:05:01 to her sister-in-law. Right. Like big dig. Basically, you're incapable of taking care of your children. In my opinion, that is having two sisters with kids commenting on their parenting is just no. You just don't do it. Sister or not, you can't comment on someone's parenting. No. And if she wants a tree, she's going to get a tree.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Also, why are these kids tearing down a tree, she's going to get a tree. Also, why are these kids tearing down a tree? That seems crazy. You think they would like it. What are they, cats? Are they two boys or something? Are they cats? They're trying to get to the star on top.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I mean, to be called like, you're so incapable of parenting that you can't even get a Christmas tree up. Like, that's a low blow. But also, I want to know, have they never had a Christmas tree up? Or they did once and it was torn down. The whole house disintegrated because of that tree. What? I wonder.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Is this Christmas vacation? Christmas trees used to start a lot of house fires. I think that that stat's gone down. Well, it's because they were using real hot lights. Okay. So before we started today, we were talking about the lights. So I got, if you're listening, you got to go watch on YouTube just to see the lights. But these bulbs get hot.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And I'm like, people put these on their houses. And Tommy was like, yeah, well, it's concrete. And I go, but what if it hit a leaf? No, seriously, it would light up. It could. What if an animal went up there, scratched it, popped it open, and then completely blew up? They're glass.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Like, I was banging them about back here, getting them set up. And then I was so scared because I got a jute rug over there. That's basically straw. And I had the extras on the ground. I'm like, this is going to burn a hole. We're going to start on fire. No, Christmas is a very dangerous holiday. I can't let that happen to Tommy and Amanda.
Starting point is 00:06:46 No, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, we can't burn yet. Not yet. Not yet. Is this person an asshole? Are they on the naughty or nice list? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yeah. I personally think they're being a little naughty just just because it's like, should have gotten involved. It's clear that they had stuff they wanted to say. Yeah. They have feelings. They have feelings. It feels like something where it's like... Those things maybe, like, could or should be said, maybe.
Starting point is 00:07:19 But like, maybe in a nice way, and maybe not during the holidays, when everything's already stressful. So it feels just like everyone lost in this situation. 100%. Yeah. Like, she lost. Like, that...
Starting point is 00:07:31 What are you gonna do with your sister-in-law? It's gonna be so awkward. Yeah. I'm getting the vibe that OP doesn't really like sister-in-law... No. -...on a baseline. Vibes are probably true.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We do have a lot of comments from OK. I bet we do. Yeah. This is not an isolated behavior. They act like this in front of people. Referring to brother and sister-in-law kind of bickering a lot. Okay. But people are like, if your brother's taking care of the kids and doing school drop-offs,
Starting point is 00:08:03 like, what does she do? She just works. She just works. And there's some, and okay. So she has a job and that is their relationship that they've defined for themselves. I don't hear your brother complaining. He also works. He also works.
Starting point is 00:08:19 He also works. So he's working and doing extra stuff. Huh. Oh, she just sees the sister as not doing anything. She's not in their house 24-7 or in their marriage. No, he works a normal job, but takes a late lunch to get the kids go home and then return to work. It's the time before school and after when they're tearing things up.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I see what's happening. The brother is complaining to the sister. You think? Yes. Oh, you're so right. Because how does she know all this information? How does she know all these small details? And that sounds like something he would say. She just works. She works all the time. So he needs to have a conversation with his spouse.
Starting point is 00:08:57 That's what I'm feeling because how does she know all of this information? Yeah. Well, and it's apparent that the sister-in-law is very aware of it. Sister-in-law doesn't see a problem in their arrangement. Her and kids admit he cooks, cleans, takes out garbage, and takes them everywhere. Once she said to another family member, quote, if I don't chauffeur my sons around, why do you think I drive you around? Someone might have asked her for a ride. Got it.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Okay. There's so much going on here now. I feel like there's like, I'm missing a little ingredient of this entire family dynamic. Someone's not talking. Someone's not saying something that's really happening. Sister-in-law told a friend she does nothing. Doesn't clean, doesn't make meals. A brother has offered to pay for a babysitter. He's gone as far as using his savings to pay for a babysitter. Oh. And so she's like, she's like, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I don't work. And he's like, right? Is that what you're bragging about? What is happening? There's some weird shit going on in the comments now. Is he like a daddy? Like, does he have all the money and she's just cruising? But she's working.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Like she's just working. Like she's doing something. She's just working. She's just working. What? Like? Maybe she's the money. Maybe she, trust fund. Maybe she's the money.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Maybe she's the money and she's like, I'm making all the money. You have to do the rest. So you better do all the, yeah. That's between them in their relationship. It's still between them. Right. They should figure that out. And I get like, my brother has children and they're amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I love them. But you know, like when they're like, they're not your kids, you can't say anything, but other people, maybe they go like, desensitized kids, you can't say anything. But other people, maybe they go like, desensitized to it, or they don't even notice anymore. But their kids are kind of running around or, you know, spinning in the middle of a walkway. You know, and you're just like, hey, no, no, no, no, no, come over here and do this. But the parents just like they're, they're chill. They're blase, whatever that word is about it. I wonder if that's kind of what's going on with the mom here, because like,
Starting point is 00:11:09 what OP describes as like, unsafe behavior is just kind of like normal kids things. Like, she just sits around when her kids do unsafe things in front of people, well, what are they doing? Running around, being loud. They did try to open a window. And when OP asked why, they said for fun. And then they did try to throw something out of the window, but you know.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So they're just being kids. They're just being kids. Maybe. Well, maybe. That's what I'm kind of getting. And some people just don't know how to deal with kids. Yeah. It's like, like my friend has a new baby.
Starting point is 00:11:46 He's well, he's not new. He's like one and change. But like a big baby. Yeah, it was a big thing. But like it's the whole thing of like, oh, they'll just love. They'll let him like run and then fall over and then start crying. And they're like, you know, they're like, look, no, he's fine. And then he'll be like, and then look at them and go, I'm fine. I'm like, keep going, you know? So maybe it's that kind of thing where it's like,
Starting point is 00:12:05 I don't have kids, so he falls over and I'm like, and it's actually just fine. And so maybe OP just doesn't get, you know? I think it's actually better for the kids to not react so intensely because that's, they have to fall and learn like, oh, that hurt. Okay, it's like when kids are like, I want to go outside without my shoes. You're like, okay. And then halfway through, they're like, oh, that hurt. Okay. It's like when kids are like, I want to go outside without my shoes.
Starting point is 00:12:25 You're like, okay. Okay. And then halfway through, like, I want to get my shoes on. You're like, I know. Then we go get your shoes. What's that? That's like gentle parenting. Gentle parenting. Or like Montessori, you let them figure it out.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Yes. It feels like Fafo parenting. What's Fafo? Fuck around and find out. Oh, that's good. Yeah, it's like when a kid is like buttoning their shirt, they're like, just let them do it. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:12:50 Oh, it's painful to watch. It's painful to watch. It is painful. But it's also like, yeah, it takes a lot of patience. Where do we think the comments went on this one? Overall vote. What are we thinking? I feel like naughty just because it's none of your business.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah, I also feel like the comments were confused like us. Yeah. The comments were like, what is actually happening here? There's a lot of missing info. Top comment though, you're the asshole. Wow. But also this doesn't seem like a tree problem. If the kids are so wild that they would hurt themselves or destroy a Christmas tree without supervision, how do they survive the rest of the year?
Starting point is 00:13:31 Right. Right. They're probably fine, but also... I mean, they're still alive. They're still alive. The house is still there. The house hasn't burned. I'm feeling like the brother is talking shit. Although every tree within a mile of the home has been destroyed.
Starting point is 00:13:48 It's been lit up, the kids are just in the back like... Wow. This feels a bit naughty. Yeah, stay out of it. Keep out of other people's business. Literally. Is there an update? No update.
Starting point is 00:14:03 OP is pretty active. Bunch of other subreddits, you know, they're going on commenting things, but no update about the tree or if they got one. Well, we'll just have to go to their home and find out. Yeah, we're going to have to find out and the kids are going to be running around screaming. Opening a window? I don't know. I'm overstimulated already. Yeah, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:24 It's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot. This next one is also a lot. Oh, I'm so excited! It's also a lot. So this is coming from Aith, 23 days old, titled, Peed My Pants. My Boyfriend Wouldn't help me.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Oof. Okay. Okay. Have you peed your pants before? Yes. I have also peed my pants before. Yes. I did, but I was really lucky and I was wearing a skirt.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So I just peed. To peed your leg. Yeah, like I squatted in the skirt, like on the sidewalk. And then when I got to the house party, I just took off my tights and underwear, and I was good to go. Oh, that's perfect.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It was like the ideal way to pee your pants. The worst peeing your pants is when you're wearing jeans. Oh, because they're so soggy and hard to get off. I'm just like, I've never peed jeans, but like, you know, wet pants. I haven't, I don't think I've peed jeans either, but peed jeans. I've peed shorts, which are also not the best. No. Were they jorts?
Starting point is 00:15:25 Shorts. They weren't jorts, luckily, but they weren't shorts. So you know, they get wet and then also you get wet. Anyways. Anyways. Anyways. So I had a vaginal birth nearly three years ago, and since then I've had stress incontinence. Today I was in class and I was taking an exam.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I had to pee so bad, but couldn't leave until the exam was done. That's illegal. When I finally finished, I peed my pants and it leaked as I went to the bathroom. I refused to leave the bathroom until I had another outfit and my boyfriend refused to leave the bathroom until I had another outfit, and my boyfriend refused to help me. I asked him to buy me sweats from the university gift shop, and he refused at
Starting point is 00:16:12 first until I sent him money for them. I asked to borrow. He then said he wanted me to walk to the restroom door, and I said my pants are covered in pee. There's no way I can do that. And he said he's not walking into the women's restroom. I told him to hand it to a girl walking in. He wouldn't. He eventually left them outside the door to the restroom and I had to walk out in pee pants. I'm furious with him. Do I have a right to be? No! Imagine, I'm like... No! Dude!
Starting point is 00:16:49 He doesn't love you, obviously. No. Like, that's crazy. No, he does not. No. It wouldn't even be a second thought if he did. Like, just go get the pants. That's it. It's so easy.
Starting point is 00:17:01 It's so easy. It's so easy, she'll pay you back. Yeah. Or not. Have her buy dinner next time you so easy. She'll pay you back. Yeah. Or not. Have her buy dinner next time you go out. Like, it's like, what? I get it.
Starting point is 00:17:09 University sweatpants might be expensive. School book stores. They might be like $100. They're raking money there. But it's like- It's probably $60 sweatpants. I mean, hey, now you have nice sweatpants. Was he the one, was he the baby daddy?
Starting point is 00:17:22 No mention of that, which makes me think no. But honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he was. And that was just context that OP left out. Because did you guys ever see that story where the guy was like, my roommate wants me to take care of her baby, and he was the dad? Oh, no. So people like... I think I'd be enraged by that story. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I wanted to hit him with a car. Like it was, it was bad. But I'm like, and now I'm really curious. Like if, if that is boyfriend, baby daddy, like, dude, this problem is also because of you bitch. Like literally what, and it's so simple. Like it doesn't have to be this awkward thing. It's like, it's pee. Did you
Starting point is 00:18:06 guys see the Muppets trend that's going around right now on TikTok, where people share Muppets to the Madonna, like a prayer song, and they share these horrendous stories? Oh, is it Beaker, right? Or one of the orange hair? I think so. Yeah. There's an olive oil story where this girl had really hay-like hair. So she wrapped olive oil on her head and then as she was walking out to the garage her olive oil had dripped she slipped blacked out the garage lights shut off because they were on a timer so when she came back in her family had already gone to sleep and set
Starting point is 00:18:37 the girl like the house alarm so she set the alarm off and the alarm was blaring what and then she goes up to her room and as she's laying back down to go to bed, she sees two people coming up to the door and she goes, oh my God, I have to wake up my dad again because they're robbing my house. What the hell? Turns out I was cops. Because you set the alarm off.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Because she set the alarm off. All because of her olive oil head? All because of her olive oil head. Yeah, which Muppet is that? I think it's Beaker. I think it's him. What the F? Anyway, it's just like a... That is the craziest story I've ever heard. So I'll send it to you.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You'll get it. But so people are telling these crazy stories to this meme on a slideshow. And this one I saw was this lady being like, we went on our honeymoon to the Chilean mountains and I was prepared for altitude. I had all the meds. I was ready to go, but my stomach wasn't. And we're on this bus and we're going through the tunnels. And all of a sudden I felt it
Starting point is 00:19:36 and there's no bathroom on the bus. No, there's not. No, and probably not for hours. So I grabbed a plastic bag and I instructed my husband to hold it underneath me like a toilet and I proceeded to shit in that bag and Everyone on the bus heard me because it was in the open and slowly but surely people were passing back diapers and wipes for me And I'm still happily married like and so I'm like I hear that I'm like
Starting point is 00:20:02 He held a bag. A bag for her to shut. As she waterfalled out of her asshole. In a public bus. And this guy can't even bring sweatpants. Just walk into the woman's bathroom. Just open the door and go, is there anyone else in here? No? Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Or just being like, hey, my wife had a little accident coming in with some sweatpants, bing bong, you know? Yeah, but clearly he Like, easy peasy. Yeah, but clearly he is not comfortable with himself. He does not want to do this. And he does not love her. He wouldn't even give it to a girl outside the door. That was so weird.
Starting point is 00:20:35 So these people are in college? Yes. Okay, girly pop, there's better people. You're young. Oh my God, you're young. Let him be. Leave him behind. Doesn't matter, you're young. Let him be. Leave him behind. Doesn't matter young or old, let him go. Exactly. I know. Baby is amazing. Had baby at 17. I'm not seeing if he's the baby daddy. I'm so curious. Me too. But also, I think it's worse if he is.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Me too. But also, I just need to go. I know it gets worse if he is. I agree. It's all bad. He's 19, I'm 20. Oh, he's just young and insecure boy. He's like, I don't fucking... Yeah. Well, I don't have any money to get shoved in his pants.
Starting point is 00:21:17 You pissed your pants? Eww. That's so weird and so embarrassing. You're so stupid. I don't think baby daddy. Yeah, I don't, I don't feel that way. I'm not getting that vibe. And I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah. Oh. I think you gotta break up. This isn't your person. So he's naughty. You call it. She's nice. Yeah, guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah, yeah. She's nice. Mm-hmm. She just peed herself. Any update? Did she walk out of there with her sweatpants? No update. No.
Starting point is 00:21:48 It's hard to have the option of an update because I get really attached to it. You know? Me too. I get really attached. Me too. And then I'm like, I just have to know that that story exists and never hear anything ever again from them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Very hard. Don't you love when it like the story gets out there and then they see it and they're like, I saw my story on TikTok. So here's the update. Yeah. It happens. It happens all the time. And how was the rest of your day with the Swap Parents? Wow. I need to see those. You have a set info?
Starting point is 00:22:19 I need to see those. There are updates I need to see from like past Reddit stories. Oh, so many. I have an amazing, amazing little helper that's put together like a Google spreadsheet for us, which you guys probably do with like all the producers you guys have. Like you probably have, like Kiana probably has it going already. I'm sure. Yeah. But one of my Patreon family members like did a whole spreadsheet.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And so they've gone back and looked for every story I've ever read. And then now they're putting the updates, if there's an update, in another column. So my goal, 2025, I'm going back and I'm gonna like, really pop off with a follow-up app. I love that. Wait, that's amazing. A whole update.
Starting point is 00:22:59 On my list. That, see, I would be obsessed with that. A whole update episode. Yes. Tune in for that one. Yeah with that whole update episode. Yes. Tune in for that one. Yeah. You want an update?
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yes. I'll give you an update. What? On this next one. Oh, okay. I was like, give it to me. Okay, so so far we have two notties. Two notties.
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Starting point is 00:24:43 Oh. And my husband, male 31, ran off. I've been ignoring him. Is this something that I should be forgiving him for? Wow. Whoa. There is a movie. Kujo?
Starting point is 00:24:57 That was. I'm just gonna say. No, I forget what it's, it's a foreign film, quote unquote, but then it was redone with Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Will Ferrell for like the American version. Anyway, I forget the name of it, but basically in this movie, a avalanche like comes down. I know what you're talking about. Right. And then the dad like runs away because he's like, oh my God. And then the mom just like covers her kids and then like nothing really happens.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And so the rest of the movie, she's like, you ran away from us. That actor is from Game of Thrones. That guy. The original actor? Nordic or Norwegian or something. Yeah. Anyway, I instantly thought of that and I'm like, you can't, it is hard to recover from running away from danger and leaving your loved ones behind.
Starting point is 00:25:40 It's hard. I also think something happened with my friend and I, we were walking downtown and a rat, a guy like opened a door to throw away trash. And she was wearing open-toed, really cute shoes, whatever. And we were like arms crossed. And the rat, like the guy opened the door, put the trash in the thing and it must have been like, no! And it ran straight for her foot
Starting point is 00:26:06 and went on her foot and, bitch, I left her ass. I unhooked my arm so fast and I ran straight. And she was standing there going, you just left me while that rat, like, put its whole body on my foot? Yeah. There's something about rats, dude. I couldn't control my instinct. I mean, don't get me wrong, if it was like my child and a dog attack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:34 That feels a little different. Probably different, but that did happen. Well, here, let's get into this one. Let's do it. Trigger warning, animal attack. I'm going to start with this. I'm still a bit traumatized, and I will be finding someone to talk to.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And a friend has made this account for me because I'm not a frequenter. Don't know if the pit bull made it, I haven't asked. My husband and his niece and nephew and I were in our backyard. I'm going to assume our gate was open. I can't remember. It, the dog, came out of nowhere and latched on to his niece, five female.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Oh no. Niece screamed. I turned, kicked it with all the force I could manage. I was lucky enough to hit it in the jaw somewhere that it made it dislodge. My husband, who had been a few feet away, shouted. Something along the lines of, whose dog is this? I told him to get our bear spray from the house. I was in a panic.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I am an animal lover, but it was so insane, the dog almost seemed rabid. I don't think it was in hindsight, it wasn't foaming at the mouth, it was just crazed. Whoa. My husband ran,
Starting point is 00:27:44 but not towards the house. He literally ran out of the fenced gate and then shut it behind him. Oh good. That's good. Not towards his niece or nephew, who was also present in an outdoor bassinet that I managed to all but toss onto the picnic table to make sure it was out of the dog's reach. While holding his niece off my shoulder.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I put her on the barbecue to keep her out of reach, but the dog was literally jumping and snapping, and I was worried that if I tried to carry her, I'm short, it would manage to grab her out of my hands. It chased me when I ran for the shovel but then I swung at it. I don't think I will ever forget that sound or feeling. It was so high stress, I didn't even realize that it had bit me twice. I haven't spoken to him for a full week. Even though we live in the same house, I didn't ask where he went. He only came back a few minutes later to pack us into the car and drive us to the hospital. He's getting angry that I'm giving him the silent treatment, but I feel like it's his fault that I
Starting point is 00:28:56 had to possibly end that animal. If he had gotten the bear spray, I literally keep it in my purse for if I'm ever attacked by an animal or otherwise Then I don't think I would have needed to do what I did. It was literally just inside the door He knows where I keep it Instead he literally took off to God knows where me and two children that I'm not even related to Could have died It might not even be relevant, but I don't even like kids. I am staunchly child free. I love that.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Wow. And he is the one that offered us up to babysit for the weekend. I don't know, is this grounds for divorce? I'm not sure I can even look at him. Any attraction I had to him is pretty much gone. He tried to touch me yesterday just to move me so he could pass, and I smacked his hand away without even thinking about it, like he was some stranger at a bar. Because it was literally jarring. He's been
Starting point is 00:29:58 sulking around, trying to talk to me, and then getting frustrated, and then sulking more. I wasn't expecting him to be macho and fist fight the freaking dog, but at least follow instructions. At least not leave me in a life and death situation with a toddler and an infant. Should I be able to chalk this up to the moment of panic? I don't even know if I want to hear him out. Whoa. Whoa. This is awful.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Yeah. Terrible. There was a line in there where she said that she put the little girl on the barbecue and I was like, don't do that. The dog's going to love that. I know. I was like, huh? I was like, no, not on the barbecue, not the sauce.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I wish I could know what he was thinking because that's crazy to do. To shut the door on them? Also, like, that just shows, like, where his mind was at. Like, he ran, but to shut the door? I feel like he was, because him shouting, whose dog is this? I feel like he's, like, looking for the owner to, like, call the dog off or something. But it's like, that's not the logic to use at that point.
Starting point is 00:31:05 When there's an actual attack happening. Like that is so, so scary that that, I've seen dog attacks happen. I have definitely like had a dog that has been in the middle of an attack that I had to like immediately get involved in. And I know some people like, don't get involved, you'll get bit.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And it's like, well, my, I don't want my dog to be ripped to shreds. Yeah. Right. And it's like, I agree. I would say that she just needs some time. I would definitely want to hear him out. Yeah, you should hear him out. But I would feel, yeah, unattracted and like, God,
Starting point is 00:31:41 maybe she should not be in the same house right now. I think like a separation period might be good. Like therapy and then like separation. But would like, would where he went, make or break it, like, would that change it for you? Like, because I'm like, for me, I'm like, where did he go? And then why did he shut the gate? Like don't you want the dog to maybe go out the gate and like follow you?
Starting point is 00:32:05 Like, I was like walking my horse a couple of weeks ago and someone had their dog off leash. And of course the dog sees a horse and goes nuts. And it wasn't a huge dog, but it's still like, woo woo woo woo woo, like coming at me. And my first instinct was to like literally go, like at the dog to scare the fuck out. Of course, because your horse could definitely be for protection, kill that dog easily.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Which they have if they're off leash. Yeah, you don't want to kill a dog. No, so I'm like, and then it's like you literally your wife, your person is there with your niece and nephew, one of which is a baby in a bassinet. Yeah, that really freaked me out. And it's like there's two of you, you and your wife, there's two kids, like you're abandoning her and then like this is literally one against the dog with two things to protect.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Like where is there, and I get people panic, but at the same time, like then go get the bear spray that she just told you to get. Where did you go? Where did you go? There's no correct answer. Like, there's like no answer. But that makes sense. I'm stressed.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I get like trying to find somebody, but in that moment, she's totally fucked by herself. Also, I would love to know what the parents of these kids did or felt when they learned that. Because one of them is the brother, right? The parents are related to the husband. Yeah, not sure which one.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Like, what did they fucking say? They're like, thank God for your wife who doesn't like children, saved them. I know that comment. Like, I don't even like kids. It's like, yeah, but there are also kids right there. You're... Of course, yeah. I mean, a cool takeaway is this, the OP is like, strong as hell.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Oh, badass. She just learned so much about herself where she's like, oh, in a situation I can like, I can step up to the plate. It's like, I mean, he can't. And she did. She honestly, like, that mean, he can't. And she did. She honestly, like that instinct, cause not everyone, that was like a total like fight versus like freeze or fawn.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Like that was like her survival mode. She acted so quickly. She did. And thank God, because those little kids, like... Oh yeah. I can't even. It's just, it's crazy. So top comment, if it makes you feel better, that dog would have been considered dangerous and put down either way. Correct.
Starting point is 00:34:29 You defended yourself and the children from an unprovoked attack. You were so courageous and saved the kids' lives. Be proud of yourself. Yeah. Love this person commenting. Great comments. I know. OP responds, I know that consciously, I think, but thank you for saying that because I just feel so terrible. Someone goes, out of curiosity, what does his family think of this? Because you said that these are your niece and nephew from his side. What did the parents of the kids think about this? Yes. I'm not seeing a response from OP in the direct thread, but let me go to the account
Starting point is 00:35:06 and see if we find anything. Because that is such a good question. I would never trust my brother with my kids again. Never. Never. Has he even said sorry? Not based on that initial post. Seems like he hasn't. Seems like he's just moping around being like, I did the wrong thing, I guess. Yeah. and it's like, yeah, you did. There's no comments expanding on that from OP about what family thinks. Wow. Huh, interesting. Yeah. Someone goes,
Starting point is 00:35:36 "'He absolutely might do it again.' Would you feel differently if he told you that he was bitten by a dog when he was small and he just couldn't stop himself from running away? That's not a bad point, I would say. Dog trauma, which a lot of people have. People have dog trauma and when they see a dog, they run, they, no matter what.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It's hard when there's literal children being currently presently attacked. It's really hard to... And your wife. Yeah, it's really hard. Well, and, ready for this context? Oh, God. OP responds...
Starting point is 00:36:10 Get that out of the blanket. No, I wouldn't really. Seen as I was attacked pretty badly by a dog when I was 10 or 11, I still have scars on my thigh. I still like dogs, and I would like to think I still reacted appropriately in this situation. Those kids could have died. They would have been dead. I could barely stomach explaining his niece's injuries to his
Starting point is 00:36:34 sister. I was bawling, apologizing that I didn't do more. I can't imagine if something worse had happened. Wow. I can't imagine being his sister. Wow. Oh, so it is his sister then. It's his sister. Yeah, sister. Oh, she's never. Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 00:36:52 Wow, damn. You know, disappointed your wife and your family. Disappointed two women, your sister and your wife. Yeah. You're fucked. Yeah. We used to camp. I trusted he would react appropriately.
Starting point is 00:37:07 He also doesn't have any childhood incidents regarding animals that I know of. I was attacked by a German Shepherd pretty badly, but I still like dogs. So like out of all the people that could have reacted poorly in this situation, it was probably OP. Yeah. Also they camp. They must live in a place where there's bears, if she has bear spray. Bear spray. So like, what is he gonna do when a bear comes up? Oh, he's fetal position.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah. For sure. It's done. He's not gonna save you. Which like, what's that saying? If it's brown, don't- Shut it down. Don't let- I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I just made it up. Brown, shut it down. If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush it down. But there's a bear one too. Because I know with bears, like bears, you're supposed to like get as big as them and be like, and then they like freak out. So they, yeah. Oh my God. I saw a video of the photographers where they scare away a big grizzly by being loud. I shit my pants. Yeah, it's really hard.
Starting point is 00:38:04 It seems terrifying. Yeah, it's really hard to... Seems terrifying. Yeah. Although the bear safety rhyme, if it's brown, lay down. If it's black, fight back. If it's white, good night. Sounds like good advice. You have to know why a bear is attacking you before you can decide the best way to respond. There you go.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Why are you attacking me? Why are you encountering a polar bear? That's my question. Yeah, I would like to know that. I want to see one so bad. Oh, that'd be great. You can go on polar bear rides in Manitoba, right in Canada. You can ride on a polar bear?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Could you imagine? It did sound like that. I know, I know. Obviously, I know what you're talking about. You go on a bus, but they can climb in the windows and you just like see their little face. You've never seen it? They see your face smashing through the glass. I don't think I would lay down if I saw a brown bear,
Starting point is 00:38:51 but maybe that's good advice. I think I'd have to run either way. Yeah, I don't think I'd be laying down for a bear. Lay down, just lay down. Regardless of the color of the bear. And let them smell you? No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Although I probably will never encounter a bear in my life. I think you need to try this polar bear ride. Look how fun this looks. I'm not outside enough. Look at this. Oh my God. Yeah, you could handle that. Whoa, I've never seen a vehicle that's that way.
Starting point is 00:39:15 That's a big vehicle. Yeah. And then look at this one. It's a bus with monster truck wheels. It's so cool. Like a five-year-old me would love that. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. One hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah. I think you could really handle this. Look at how... Excuse you, Google image. Look at this one. You can get so close to them. Oh! And you're like just out of reach so that they can't like bite your head off.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yeah, no, they could swipe, but you're still good. Oh, that's cool. So I can give them a high five. Yeah, this is on my list. Oh, so cute. That's on my list. So you can handle that. But, okay is on my list. Oh, so cute. That's on my list. So you can handle that. But, okay, back to this one. This is insane.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Someone goes, and I don't like this comment at all. But someone goes, why should he have to protect you? Would you protect him? She did protect him. I feel like that's part of a partnership. Who's coming in hot like that? Yeah, is it not part of the part... you're married? Yeah, I'm married.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I would protect my spouse at all costs. Would you take a bear for him? I probably would. Yeah, I probably would. I have been in like fight or flight situations and I've always fought. It's more fought. That's kind of always the case. I feel like he would fight too. I'm a bit of a freezer. He would never run.
Starting point is 00:40:30 No. Never run. But I freeze sometimes too. I'm a freeze. And then once I click back in, I'm like, oh. Same. You know? That's normal.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Deer in headlights for a second. Just for a second, while my brain goes, what's happening? Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. So OP responds. It's for a second. Just for a second while my brain goes, what's happening? And then, yeah. Yeah. Oh man. So OP responds, I expect us to protect each other, I guess is what I mean. I didn't expect him to take one for the team.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I just expected him to have my back. Yeah. Have two humans fight the beast. The beast. Exactly. Wow. So we have an update. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I didn't want to ask. I'm so glad. The ghost of the beast, exactly. Wow. So we have an update. Oh my God, I didn't want to ask. I'm so glad. The ghost of the dog is back. Oh my God, it's like, you left her. That was your one chance. We need a vacuum. My friend said that people update often, but I don't know how to attach it to the other posts.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I thought I'd update since there had been a few things that kind of happened. Sorry if this is needlessly long, and I didn't expect this to get that many comments and so much kindness. And I want to say I'm sorry to everyone that has experienced anything similar because my god, it has not been easy. For everyone worried about my mental health, I did get in through an app with my work yesterday because I decided I really needed it and labeled it high priority. However, it felt like it was just a parliamentary meeting and she said she wanted to get me feeling a bit more comfortable because I was visibly tensing up whenever I started talking
Starting point is 00:41:58 about it. She even noticed this through a video chat. Last night, I also told my husband I needed space. I apologize that I don't have more of an update on our relationship than that. I wasn't as nice as I wanted to be. He argued and didn't want to leave. It's my house. But I told him I just didn't want to look at him. That I couldn't look at him. He cried and I hate that I felt apathetic towards it. I haven't slept well, so I'm not sure. I'm also just overtired and still shaken though.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I was also emotionally exhausted after the appointment, so that probably added to it. I got a few questions about his sister and her husband, so I thought I would answer. Yay! They aren't speaking with him. Yup. Knew it.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Knew it. I don't know when it happened. I was definitely out of it at the hospital while I was getting the stitches and everything. But I do think after I was done blubbering and trying to explain how something so terrible happened to their little girl under our watch, they apparently asked him where he was. I still haven't talked to him about where he went, so I don't know. However, it clearly didn't satisfy them. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I love that. Don't mess with their children. His niece just got out of the hospital yesterday. How long has it been? So this update is coming two days after the original post. Wow. So this is still very fresh for everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Honestly, I feel like there's no recovery from this. If my partner did this, I'd be like, I'd feel like I can't, if I can't trust you with my life, what can I? Imagine if it's your brother. I know. That's even worse. Fuck. So because she just got discharged, that really triggered everything and a lot happened. I had sent flowers, a bear, and this one toy thing she's been asking about.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I didn't go to the hospital, though. I was scared that seeing me would make her nervous. But his sister and her husband sent me flowers, too, and it made me ball again. I'm just a freaking mess, honestly. The father sent me a long message that I haven't been able to get through, but it's the sweetest thing that anyone has ever sent me. He also sent me 1K and a visa gift card. I literally thought I was reading the amount wrong. They are good people and I still feel terrible that I couldn't have done more for her. I mean she saved their kids' lives.
Starting point is 00:44:26 She's awesome. 1K and a Visa gift card. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, let's find me a dog. I need to, I need 1K and a Visa gift card. That'd be great. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I'm ready. I'm ready. 1K and a Visa gift card. Obviously, I haven't looked into filing yet, but I'm not against the idea of it. And it really did help me feel better about wanting a divorce over this. I know fight or flight can't be helped, but now I think I realized that it's okay to not want to be with someone who would leave you behind. I think I can say I'm a fighter, and I want a fighter with me.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Maybe he'd be better off with a runner instead too. Then at least he wouldn't be leaving someone behind. Whoa! Love that! She's feeling better. Ooh! I don't know. It feels like I'm done, but I'm also just a mess.
Starting point is 00:45:18 So right now, I'm just glad I have space. Thank you for everyone making me feel like I wasn't being ridiculous, though. I think it always feels like it should be multiple issues that tear a marriage apart unless it's infidelity or something. And it's like, I know he may not have meant to betray me, but he still did. Whatever his reasoning is, not sure when I'll be speaking to him, but I will try and update then. Wow. Whoa. I want that update.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Let me go to the account. Let me see if anything's been posted since. That, at first I was like, there's no way you could divorce someone over this. And then, as she was talking and making it real, I was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you can, I guess. I wouldn't feel comfortable anymore. Yeah, I mean... That wouldn't feel comfortable anymore. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 00:46:05 That's, ooh. God. Get with the runner and they can run away together. What a line. I can't handle the sister thing. Love that so much. I mean, I don't think I'd be able to talk to my sibling either.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Oh yeah. No. Accidents happen, and that's the risk. I mean, kids, you can't keep them in a bubble. That's just the reality. You can. Accidents happen, but he left and didn't come back for minutes and didn't come back with the bear spray. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:42 He did nothing. He negatively impacted the situation. Yeah, he did nothing. He negatively impacted the situation. Yeah, he did. And he caused more trauma to his wife, who had to, you know, act. I wouldn't even think of getting a shovel. Good for her. Dude. It's just crazy. Yeah. No further updates from OP. No knowledge if they filed for divorce or anything. But yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Okay. She's nice, obviously. She's nice and he is... And he's naughty. Naughty. Naughty, naughty. Yeah. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Unbelievable. Unbelievable. But so glad little kids are okay. I just, dogs, you know, you just never know. Like, the animals are still animals, and it's just a risk. I got trampled by my horse a couple months ago. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Trampled? Yeah, I had a very intrusive thought. It was definitely a me thing. I thought, this is really dumb. What? I had the bright idea to crawl underneath him. Okay. Like, I treated him like a bridge and I ducked underneath and he got a little freaked out
Starting point is 00:47:49 and he went with his back legs and I just got fumble weeded. Got kicked a few times? Oh my god, are you okay? Oh Jesus. Oh yeah, but I was bruised for at least eight weeks. I feel like that could have broken bones. Yeah, yeah, no, I got really lucky and I literally, I flew out the next morning for a live show. And so, I forget what city it was, but I showed them my bruises.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I like literally like pulled my shirt down on stage and they go, the whole crowd, like an audible gasp. I was like, I know. You're like, I know, I'll cover these back up. My knees were like, it was like I got dragged down the road from getting like pounded into the dirt. And my pants were like sticking to my legs. I had to like pull my pants off my like pussy legs.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Oh no no no. Fuck. It was really bad. That's really awful. That's crazy. So I'm like, yeah. I'm like animals are animals. You always have to practice safe animal handling techniques.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Always. Never be too... To what? Safe? Yeah. Too sure? Oh, there we go. Never be too sure.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Like, don't have a chimpanzee in your place. Oh, well. Well, that's a good one. Well, that's fine. What was that one lady that just came out? Tonka? She had a monkey Tonka? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:03 From the... What's going on there? I never watched Chimp Crazy. I watched it and it went in and out of my brain. She had a chimpanzee. She said that he died. He wasn't dead. She was keeping him in a home.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Because she didn't want them to take him? Yeah. Did he ruin her face? Did he do anything? No, that's a different woman. No, I remember that woman. Oh my God. That was awful. Yeah, it's crazy. The face transplant is such a medical, like, a different woman. No, I remember that woman. Oh my God. That was awful.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Yeah, it's crazy. The face transplant is such a medical marvel to me. It's so cool. It's so cool. Absolutely amazing. Wow. Okay. Moving along.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I unfortunately really have to pee all of a sudden. Is that something I can do? You actually have to pee yourself on that couch. Okay, well. Are you wearing jeans? I am wearing jeans. And then I'm going to refuse to hand you sweatpants that I go buy from the bookstore. Oh my God.
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Starting point is 00:51:25 Okay. Yeah, we're gonna move on to this one. Cause I'm a little mixed on this one. Okay. I'm a little mixed. I like a little mixed. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what we think.
Starting point is 00:51:34 So this is coming from A.I.T.H. one day old titled, Am I the asshole for accidentally letting my sister-in-law get chemical burns on her face? Oh. Oh. What's the deal with the sister-in-law get chemical burns on her face. Oh! Oh! What's the deal with the sister-in-laws? People do not like their sister-in-laws. You know, it's a tough, tough gig. Tough world out here.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Letting her get? Interesting. Yeah, letting her. Interesting. Chemical burns. Which, like, on your face? That's intense. Awful.
Starting point is 00:52:05 My husband, 26 male, and I, 26 female, bought our first home seven months ago. His younger sister, 16 female, who just got her license, frequently shows up unannounced and has trouble taking no for an answer. Last Friday, she came over after dinner and asked us to stay the night. We agreed since we had no plans. She asked to shower, so we let her use ours, as our guest bathroom isn't stocked yet. I splurge on salon quality hair care products because my hair is unruly, and my $27 shampoo bottle was brand new. Later Later I found half the shampoo and nearly all the conditioner gone. What?
Starting point is 00:52:52 Along with my skincare scattered across the counter. She had used almost $50 worth of hair products and all of my skin stuff, including my prescription skincare stored in a pharmacy bag. Oh no. Why? Why? Half a bottle of shampoo? Damn, girl.
Starting point is 00:53:14 You're only supposed to use a dollop of Daisy. I asked her to bring her own products next time as I wasn't comfortable with how much she used. I was in no way rude. I just explained that I splurge on really expensive products and I can't afford to have $50 of product gone every time she showers here. She called me selfish in a passive aggressive way and ended up leaving. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:43 16 year old. Yeah, literally. aggressive way and ended up leaving. By Tuesday, her skin was red, peeling, and breaking out terribly. At dinner with my in-laws Tuesday, she blamed me for not warning her about my skincare products. I explained I hadn't expected her to dig through my drawers and use prescription products, which are expensive and took my skin weeks to adjust to. My father-in-law said I should pay for a doctor's visit, but my husband refused, arguing that at 16, she should know better and that it was inappropriate for her to look through
Starting point is 00:54:22 my medicine bag to even find the prescription product that was likely the culprit of the irritation. Yeah. Am I at fault for not warning her? I wouldn't go through someone's personal products, let alone use their stuff like it was my own. I would have been happy to share some skin products, not my prescription cream.
Starting point is 00:54:42 She also brought up that I got mad she used so much shampoo and conditioner and basically made me look really bad in front of my in-laws. Admittedly, I was upset about the shampoo and conditioner and the fact that she left a huge mess on the counter. But I was very calm and just explained money as tight as we just bought our house and I didn't want her to use months of products in one shower. Anyways, let me know what you think. Dude, 16 year olds, they, oh my God, my husband's sister is 16 and the products, I'm like, you
Starting point is 00:55:18 have all of Sephora in your bathroom. A, how? How? How did your mom afford that? Because I know you're not buying it. Right. And half of this shit is like, you don't need this. Like retinol, like age wrinkle. Trenton Owen or whatever the other fancy one is. Yeah, drunk elephant vibes. I'm like, yo, can you just, but that's what they do. They go through all your, so when they were younger, they would go into my bathroom and like go through all of my stuff. And I was like, this is my stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:49 They need to learn not to do that. Like that's kind of a thing you learn as like a moral thing is like, you just don't go through other people's stuff. Unless you're at a house party and then you're in the bathroom. You can take a little peek around, take a little look at Lou, but you don't use anything. Agreed. And so it's like, okay, clearly her parent was her dad, right? That was like upset.
Starting point is 00:56:10 It's like, okay. You should pay for a doctor's visit. I'm like, well, how about you pay for the doctor's visit so that she learns that she shouldn't be doing this? Because if everyone just resolves that, then she won't learn that that's not something you should do. Yeah. Also, I don't understand, how could she have warned her when she didn't know she was doing it?
Starting point is 00:56:31 Right. Oh, just in case you go through all of my stuff, probably don't touch that thing. Yeah. I don't think she's the asshole in my opinion. Not at all. No, I think she's honestly on the nice list because if my $50 shampoo was half gone after it was brand new, I'd be pissed. We would have problems. Also, going through someone's medical stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:57 The prescription bag, pharmacy bag. Why would you put that on your face? How do you know what it's for? I don't know. Like, was it a chemical peel? It was probably like a really high dose retinol or like I feel like trentenone has been like such a buzz like it's better than retinol and that stuff like I did one one tiny thing to see if I get my skin used to it. I peeled. I peeled. And I did it like, I was doing tiny little dollops.
Starting point is 00:57:27 This is someone that probably slathered it on. Slathered. She was slugging with the tretinoin or whatever this was. I can't handle that. I just can't imagine putting something on my face that I don't know what it is. I have such sensitive skin. I can't even use retinol.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I am so sensitive. I'm such a sensitive little baby. But I literally can't use retinol. I am so sensitive. I'm such a sensitive little baby. But I literally can't use retinol. I'm not allowed to because it gets all red and rashy. Yeah. Here's the thing, though. I will say, this girl is 16. She's probably smart. She probably went to her parents and was like, she yelled at me, she kicked me out. Oh, she made a new narrative.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I put on all this stuff and I'm totally breaking out and all this stuff, like, they probably, that's why the dad was like, I'm stepping in. Right, if the dad's like, hey, then he's operating out of a false narrative. Correct. Cause like, if he found out it's like, oh, you just rated, just rated my sister's stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Yeah, exactly. It's crazy. It's so wild. There are so many comments from OP. Like so, so many comments. If we try to read every comment, like it's actually, I'm concerned that there's so many comments for this post, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Like at least a hundred comments. Whoa. You ready? You ready for the scroll? Starts here. Oh, someone took a week off to do this. Someone quit their job. This is a PTO expense here.
Starting point is 00:58:55 What is happening? No. What? How many comments do you estimate that was? I'm gonna say 86. Okay, I was thinking. 92? I'm going to say 86. Okay. I was thinking... 92.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I'm not going to find out. So if someone else wants to take that upon themselves, please do. The link will be in the description. And whoever was closest gets a 1K Visa gift card. You can't promise that shit. I want a Visa gift card. You can't promise that shit. I want this shit. You can't promise that. But we do find out that it was Redken, like some special Redken salon shampoo.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Oh, that is very expensive. That's like salon. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, that's fine if you want to use half a bottle every time if you're using like Trezame or, you know, something from Target that's $4.79. You just don't need half a bottle. But it something from Target that's $479. You just don't need half a bottle.
Starting point is 00:59:48 But it's also that's not even good for your hair. It strips your hair. Exactly. That's not even good for your hair. Nope. I'm not seeing any update, but I think based on how many comments, let's see what the top vote is because I'm like, are people like not aligning with this? Like why so many comments?
Starting point is 01:00:04 That would be wild. Top comment, not the asshole. Okay, thank God. It's dangerous to use someone's prescription medication. Why was she messing around with your medicine period? Keep repeating this to your in-laws. I hope she's not messing with other people's medicine too. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Which that's a really good point. That is a really good point. Very good point. OP responds, which of course they did. Yep, I'm assuming she's heard of the particular product I have and I'm hoping that is why she used it. She was super into the skincare craze a while ago. I am upset but not surprised that she looked through all of our stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:42 She would love to find something she could try to embarrass me with, but she should have learned over the years that it hasn't worked on me, LOL. Oh, okay. Okay. There's some beef there. Uh, OP does say in the comments that it was Trenton Owen. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Which it's blown up on TikTok. That's the thing. 16-year-old skin, nope. Okay. Which it's blown up on TikTok. On that little baby skin? That's the thing. 16 year old skin? Nope. Like that is like virgin skin. Like I hate, I hate, I don't like that word, but that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Like you're so fresh, you have no wrinkles. You just are not weathered. Yep. It's also like, you know, regardless of like your, your sex, gender, whatever, it's like, you're going through hormonal changes at that time. Your face is going to have like excess oils or not enough. It's like there's stuff going on underneath the surface there.
Starting point is 01:01:33 You don't want to mess with that. Don't mess with that shit. No, she's on the naughty list for sure. OP, not the asshole. Nice list. Nice list for sure. Now, what if she did some crazy shit and just left all that stuff out for her to grab? On purpose?
Starting point is 01:01:50 I was like, well, that comment of her being like, didn't get me this time. I'm like, huh? Wait a second. I'm like, wait. What? Oh, well, the sisters probably for sure tried to dig through their stuff trying to find dildos. 100%.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You think? 100%. Well, if she's showing up uninvited. Trying to embarrass? Oh, yeah to find dildos. 100%. You think? 100%. Well, if she's showing up, trying to embarrass. Oh yeah. Oh, I see. She's probably stealing some of her jewelry too. They love to take hoops.
Starting point is 01:02:14 They love to take hoops. I've lost a good amount of hoops. You've lost hoops to 16 year olds. Yeah. And I've been like, to my husband, I'm like, Yeah, you got good hoops too. I'm like, you gotta get my hoops to 16 year olds. Yeah. And I've been like, to my husband, I'm like... Yeah, you got good hoops too. I'm like, you gotta get my hoops back. Hoops like these?
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah. I'm like, you gotta get... It hasn't been for years, but I'm like, you gotta get my hoops back. He's like... Oh. Did you get your hoops back? Uh, no. What?
Starting point is 01:02:39 Wow. They were... They didn't take them. And I was like, well, who else came in here? Dude, that shit pisses me off. I hate when people are like, oh, I don't take them. And I was like, well, who else came in here? Dude, that shit pisses me off. I hate when people are like, oh, I don't have it. And then you'll literally see in like an Instagram story, them wearing it.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And you're like, this, this is what I was talking about. This shirt right here, this one. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's yours? I had no idea. I thought it was someone else's. What do you mean? Insane.
Starting point is 01:03:04 God, if you had sisters. I'm so glad I don't. They steal everything. I have one. And I also did too. Yeah, I have one, but we like didn't grow up together. So like I didn't have to worry about my stuff. That's nice. That's big.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Thank God. Love you, Paige, but you definitely would have been a klepto. It's true. Klepto. Thinking about 16-2, I'm like, I had so much like expensive shit that I just, I was a shoplifter holic. I was a shoplifter holic. I was a shoplifter holic.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I was a shoplifter holic. I was a shoplifter holic. I was a shoplifter holic. I was a shoplifter holic. I was a shoplifter holic. I was a shop Thinking about 16 too, I'm like, I had so much like expensive shit that I just, I was a shop liftoe-holic. Oh! It's a thing. Yeah. I think that's like, it's a canon event for 16 year old girls.
Starting point is 01:03:36 They want to like steal hair products. Sephora. I had a friend who stole hair products, but she would take big hair products and shove them down her pants. And I was like, I can't believe you're doing that. And she totally got caught. Yeah, I did eventually get caught. There's cameras. You'll always get caught. Do not shoplift, friends.
Starting point is 01:03:56 You'll always get caught. You'll always get caught. Yeah, I had a tough go at Fleet Farm. And they got me. Yeah, I was all the way out though, at my car and they got me. Yeah, I was all the way out though at my car and they dragged me back in, which is illegal, but I did not know my rights. Also, I'm pretty sure store like people who work in stores like that, if you see someone shoplifting, you're just supposed to go like, oh man. Cause like if you try and stop them and they pull something crazy, then it's like, well, you should have just let them take it. Yeah. It's not worth your farm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Well, some people want to be heroes. That's true. They do. And like, here's the thing, like just don't be the hero. Like there was a little old man at Home Depot. I'm going to ruin, I'm going to ruin a lot of people's days right now. He was like an 80 year old man just working at Home Depot as his retired job. And he tried to like block a shoplifter from leaving and the guy shoved him down and he died So no no no one be a hero
Starting point is 01:04:56 Like these companies have enough money do not be the hero for them No, you don't need to honestly help the robber load up their truck if it comes down to it. Yeah, absolutely. Like, seriously. You need help with that, sir? Oh, I don't have $1,000. In a Visa gift card? Do you need $1,000?
Starting point is 01:05:15 In a Visa gift card? He's not gonna let this go. Do you need $1,000? Yeah. Do you need a $1,000? I'm like, I think we can all use $1,000. I would love a $1,'m like, I always take presents. We can all use a thousand dollars. I would love a thousand dollars. In a Visa gift card.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Okay, here I might be getting sucked into a pyramid scheme. I can't tell. Oh my God, can I join but like below you? So someone on my Facebook page keeps telling me, they're like, this is the easiest hundred dollars I've ever made. And all they do is like write letters into like companies. And like, I don't know, I'll report back, but it definitely feels scammy. Write letters to companies saying what?
Starting point is 01:05:53 I don't know. I can't tell if it's a sweepstakes or what. But she's like, I make $100 a week just writing a couple letters. Well, you know that story about those coupon girls? Coupon girls? Yeah, who like, I think Kristen Bell did a movie about it. It was a true story about these coupon girls who realized that if they didn't enjoy their like box of Cheerios, they could write to General Mills and then they started sending them a free coupon. So then they just...
Starting point is 01:06:23 Stop. And then they sold their coupons? They paired to get... And they sold their coupons for more money. Wow. What geniuses. So they got all these free coupons and then sold them on this website. I mean, and they made millions. Millions? Yeah, it's like a true story. Off cereal?
Starting point is 01:06:37 What? I think it was more than just cereal. Okay, this also... This sounds like a... There's a movie on Netflix that Kristen Bell is in. This sounds like a movie. This sounds good. It is a movie. I forget what they call it. Coupon Girls? Something.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Or you could work for Express Men in 2015 and then somehow get looped into a class action lawsuit way later and make like 25 bucks. I just got a check for... Was that you? Yeah. I just got a check for 60 bucks from a class action the other day. Isn't that fun? I'm like, I see them on TikTok and I'm like, I might as well shoot my shot and apply? Yeah. I just got a check for 60 bucks from a class action the other day. Isn't that fun? I'm like, I see him on TikTok and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:07:06 I might as well shoot my shot and apply. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. How much did you get? I think it was like 25 bucks. I don't remember. It was just like, I got a letter that was like, hey bud, you worked for Express.
Starting point is 01:07:16 And I was like, I sure did. That's so, I did Herbalife. I used to sell Herbalife and other pyramid scheme. Oh yes. And I got like, I think it was like $1,100. Whoa. It was a lot of money. That's $100 more than I've been asking for this whole podcast.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I know. I know. It was a decent chunk of change. But you know what also is a hidden gem that a lot of people don't do? Rebates. Rebates. Rebates. You can get like, you just write in and show a receipt and they'll just send you money
Starting point is 01:07:46 back. But it's worth it. Oh my god, are we revealing all of this to them? Rebates. Menards. Have you guys ever been to Menards? Menards? Where are we?
Starting point is 01:07:55 I'm so sorry to disappoint you. What day is it? Save big money at Menards. That doesn't even rhyme. You don't. Oh. You know what it is? No.
Starting point is 01:08:03 No. I was looking over to you to make sure it wasn't a long. No, I don You know what it is? No. No. I was looking over to you to make sure it wasn't a loan. No, I don't know what it is. Where are you both from? Florida. Massachusetts.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Oh my god. Florida. It's such a Midwest thing. It's like the Midwest Home Depot. Constant rebates. 11% rebate on everything. Everything. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:23 It's a rebate. You have to buy it and then you send in the receipt and they send you money back. But then you don't send in the product? Is that not a sale that you have to do a chore for? You do have to do a chore for it. It's work. That's what I'm saying. What's the chore? A lot of people don't do it. Having to write in and send the thing. Coupon movie? Queen pins. Queen Queen Pins, okay. I actually thought it was pretty good. I liked it. I'm gonna give it a go. And it's ins... I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:08:50 Forty million dollars. Forty million dollars. Okay, yeah. Yeah. No, they bought like... I think they bought like Lamborghinis or something. They like went crazy. Whoa. They were... Yeah. They spent their money. And they got caught. They were, yeah, they spent their money. And they got caught. They really got caught.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Oh, God. Yeah. They deserve that. That's, it sounds like a feat. I feel like they deserve that money. Yeah, they worked really hard. If you're loop-holing the system that hard, I'm like, ah, keep your Ferrari, I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:20 That's the thing. If the system had a hole like that. I think they bought like 10 Ferraris, something really dumb. Okay, well that's a little insane, but. No, they were like, money. That's like the lottery winners that like, buy like the Versace houses.
Starting point is 01:09:38 And then it's just gone. Yeah. Just gone. Not me. I would do well. I would do a good job. I would do really well with lottery. Yeah, with lottery. Not me. I would do well. I would do a good job. I would do really well with lottery.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah, with lottery. With any money. I don't think anyone would know that I won. No. You don't want to tell them. I'd be so discreet. Completely. You're like, face lifting.
Starting point is 01:09:55 You have so much surgery. So insanely. I don't think anyone would tell. I wouldn't tell, but there would be signs. Face lift. Okay, let's read some stories today. I was like, what's wrong with her? You'd be Lindsay Lohan in lift. Okay, let's read some stories today.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And it's like, what's wrong with her? You'd see Lindsay Lohan in any Netflix movie where she's crying. God, that's so funny. Oh my God, I haven't seen any of her holiday ones. I haven't either, just clips. And I'm like, wow. She looks great.
Starting point is 01:10:19 She's just botoxed and trying to cry. And so she's like... You know another one that did turn out well? Christina Aguilera. She looks like she's 17. She went on stage with Sabrina Carpenter. She's 17 again. And looked the same age.
Starting point is 01:10:32 That's psychotic. That's so crazy. Also, like, why can't we just age? It's kind of overwhelming. I know. I'm like, I don't want, I don't need you to go back to Christina Aguilera when I loved you. No. When I loved you. No. Just age.
Starting point is 01:10:47 When? Not anymore. I recently watched Burlesque. She's so good at that. Everyone in that. Cher, Stanley Tucci. I have seen Burlesque, yes. I was going to be concerned if you hadn't seen it. Me too.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I've seen Burlesque. It's so good. It's kind of an awful movie too. No, I know. It's one of those awful movie too. No, I know. It's one of those. Cult. Cult following? Following, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Cult following ones. It's a cult. It's a cult. Okay. Ah, this next one. Another one of this week's partners is Lume. Would giving deodorant as a stocking stuffer be offensive? Probably if it was any other deodorant, but Lume,
Starting point is 01:11:22 I would take a whole stocking stuffer of Lume because Lume is one of the only deodorants that actually works for me. Lumi works for up to 72 hours actually. And this is deodorant I can wear riding a horse, sweating, going to work out, and still smell fresh enough after to go meet up with friends for happy hour or dinner.
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Starting point is 01:12:29 Buckle up everyone. Oh boy. Buckle up. That's my buckle. Oh, that's my, sorry. Sorry, that's my buckle. You're sitting on my buckle. This next one is coming from rslash relationship advice.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Two days old titled my 27 female fiance's 29 male mother gave me abortion pills as an early Christmas present. Oh my god congrats. How on earth do I navigate this situation? Oh, whoa. Leave the family immediately. What? That is... I have questions. So she knows that she's pregnant early enough. This is off. Okay, we're gonna get there.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I can't handle it. As it happens, we will find out more information. I can't handle it. As the story is going. I want to flee. I love the eagerness though to be like, you're just ready to pop off on the title alone. And I appreciate that enthusiasm. I forgot that that was just the title because it gave me all the information I needed. Yeah, the title's got a lot going on.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Immediately no. Like immediately no. Yeah. I typed the title and proceeded to blank stare at my phone because I can't even process how and why this happened. We were having a sort of early holiday gathering hosted at his parents' house. It wasn't a small gathering either, and not everyone there knows we're expecting, except his brother, mother, and father. Right before we got ready to leave, she gave me a small box, which I initially thought was jewelry, and she told me to tell her or my fiance what I think of
Starting point is 01:14:12 it. What do you think of it? All of this kind of happened in a rush and there wasn't even a gift exchange between everybody because it wasn't that kind of party, but everyone thought she's being sweet to me because we're getting engaged soon. I was honestly tired and I opened the gift at home, which is where I saw this wicked woman had given me pills, Mifepristone and Misoprostol, which are used for medical abortions.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Oh, whoa. I understand she wasn't too happy about the news and obviously doesn't like me for fuck knows what reason, but kept it civil, so did I. But reaching this level? I genuinely don't know why she doesn't like me when the rest of the family is completely fine with me. I assume it's because of either my ethnicity or she has a superiority complex and believes I'm not good enough for her son because he graduated from a
Starting point is 01:15:18 very prestigious university and has been financially privileged his entire life, while I haven't been, even though now I earn my own money and we are pretty much equal, I simply don't know. I obviously told him and showed him, and he saw how visibly upset I am, comforted me, and said what she does slash says to me doesn't reflect my worth and he will talk to her. Good. What? He should have been enraged.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I, at least he's taken action. That's true. Bar. Right. Right. I don't understand why he doesn't do something about this immediately. It has been almost 24 hours now. We are happy about this pregnancy.
Starting point is 01:16:04 And even though it wasn't exactly planned, it was welcome. And if it happened, and that is something him and I have discussed over a year ago, what do I do? Wow. I would raise all hell up personally. This would go in a family group chat. Everyone would know what she got me. I would 100% call a family meeting.
Starting point is 01:16:28 I would call her out immediately. I would tell my person that he was going to stand by me. I would be enraged. We'd be going no contact with mom, for sure. Oh, yeah. Do not pass out. Once I revealed her horrible plans. Because they haven't even done a pregnancy announcement yet.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I just think that is crossing so many lines. It is so evil. I've just been thinking about how to like, get back at her. I'm like, okay, the first thing I thought was like, you get like some chicken liver, and you like chop it up, and you like put it on the doorstep. I love that. And then be like, you got what you wanted. But it's like, no, I don't want her to get what she wanted.
Starting point is 01:17:13 What she doesn't want is this baby. So I'm like, what we do is we make a beautiful little grandma shrine. Be like, congratulations grandma, look, it's the baby you love. You know, like double down that way. I don't know. I just like, this is so evil. I like she, I... Sent her menopause pills?
Starting point is 01:17:30 Yeah, she needs some like, I want revenge on behalf of Oki. That's so insane. I feel rageful. I feel like the best thing to do is to completely expose her. But here's the thing. I think because her partner didn't react so aggressively, means this woman has done fucked up shit since day one. Here's my thing, okay?
Starting point is 01:17:53 And maybe this is just me. I have read a lot of stories, okay? Yeah. It was the line where the mother-in-law says, tell me or your fiance what you think of it. So did he know before? Because otherwise, why does the mom want her to open this present, see what it is,
Starting point is 01:18:15 and then be like, tell me or your fiance what you think of it? Like, did him and his mom have a conversation just being like, yeah, you know, you're right, mom. I'm not ready, we're not ready. You know, yeah. And then she's taking it upon herself because that's her son. That's her little boy. And she's just the one that's now like giving her these, these pills. Like, why would, why would she want her to go to him? Why wouldn't it be like, tell me what you think of it?
Starting point is 01:18:46 That's so true. Also, did she just expect her to be like, you know what, you're right. Thanks, mom. Like, thanks so much. Like what? Maybe he did know. I think he knew.
Starting point is 01:19:00 And I think that's why he didn't go off the handle. Whoa. I think he knew. Whoa. Which is he knew. Whoa. Which is even way more upsetting. That's, yeah, that's another thing, a way bigger thing to deal with. Yeah. Because otherwise he would be flipping out at his mom, but he doesn't want to flip out
Starting point is 01:19:16 his mom because he had a part in this. That's, I don't know, I could be, I could be way off base here, but this is where I'm like... No, I don't think so. No, where I'm like, something's off here. You don't just get this for someone. The lengths you have to go to get this. Yeah. And yes, I know, I know there's, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:36 companies that will mail it to your door now and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like, that is still a feat for someone to go through. Right. And it's expensive, I imagine. Yeah. Oh my god. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:19:49 Yeah, that's evil. This is crazy. That's evil. This is purely evil. I want to know the mom's name. Karen. Karen. Karen.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Susan. I'm so sorry to Karen. It's an A-N or E-N for sure. I feel like it's like a Veronica or like a... Diana. Diana. She's got tight lips. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:11 She's tight and she probably is the one who... She's very tight. She's probably the one who like is so helicopter mom to her kids with like, and if they're all super rich like... Which they are. Oh, the ethnicity comment too was another big tell. This is giving like really privileged white family, trust fund, old money vibes.
Starting point is 01:20:36 And like if she's any other ethnicity, it's like, that's a problem. Correct. Do we know if they're getting married because of the pregnancy? Because this makes me think the mom is like, I'll get you out of my son's life. No, seriously. That's her voice.
Starting point is 01:20:51 I love you, my son. Vivian. Vivian. Ooh. Vivian. I knew it was an A-N. Vivian. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:20:59 No one calls her Viv, ever. You can't call her Viv. Maybe like her first friend that she like tried to be a lesbian with for a second was like Viv. And then she ended that a long time ago. They touched hands and she was like, I don't like you. So we do have some comments, I think. So the problem is OP deleted their post. OP deleted their account.
Starting point is 01:21:25 So it's not as easy to pull up comments from OP, but putting two and two together, the top comment has a response from someone that deleted their account. So let's get into it here. Top comment. I'm kind of surprised your fiance hasn't gone scorched earth over this.
Starting point is 01:21:41 I would think that the right moment to bring up how fucked up this gesture was is like immediately after finding out. Although maybe your fiance needs some time to wrap his brain around this. Has he had any contact with his mother since the gift exchange? I'm guessing this is OP. He hasn't, not that I know of. I want to bring it up by myself, but I am beyond humiliated, and I don't want to be labeled as a hysterical person,
Starting point is 01:22:09 especially because she plays everything off as a calm and collected woman, and I know for a fact, I will be the one who's being blamed, and she will be the victim. He knows his mother better than I do, however, so I think it is his responsibility to stand up for me. 100%. Of course.
Starting point is 01:22:29 The only reason he could be taking his time is figuring out how he's going to... Because if Vivian is this extreme person, maybe it's like, okay, I need to figure out how I'm going to tackle this. Correct. But that's the only excuse to not be scorched earth instantly. Right, right. He needs to figure out the game plan. Because... And he could be one of those, I guess.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Yeah, he needs to figure out the game plan. That's the benefit of the doubt big time. But I'm also like, I think he's used to this. I think any girlfriend he's ever had, his mom has probably been... She's not good enough. She's probably done some crazy shit. Because this is beyond. I'm also like, do you really want to bring up a child in this situation?
Starting point is 01:23:12 Right. What if she, like, what if she watches the child? Are you going to let her? I wouldn't, no, I wouldn't. Take these pills. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have a relationship with this person going forward. No. And I wouldn't give them access to this person going forward. No.
Starting point is 01:23:25 And I wouldn't give them access to my kids. Nope. Not at all. Like, you didn't want this baby here? Well, fine. Imagine this baby doesn't exist. You will not know this baby. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Like, that is what you sowed. Reaped. Reaped what you sow. Yeah. Sow what you reap. You sow first. And then you reap. And then you reap. Yeah. So that's, yeah. So, reap what you sow. You sow first. And then you reap. And then you reap.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Yeah, so that's, yeah. So you reap what you sow. Yeah. That's correct. Yeah. I love that it was like, I'm not sure, this is probably OP and then it's immediately, definitely OP. It's OP.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Well, I haven't read any of the comments. So like, I was a little bit of a procrastinator today. So like, I was picking stories. I was like, I was finishing my makeup here as you guys walked in. So I'm like a little all over the place. So I obviously read the stories to make sure they're good. But the comments like, I don't know. We can all live it together.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Yeah, we can. But I'm seeing one more comment from OP here. Okay. So someone responds, why? She wanted to know what you think. I would take a picture of the pill box and post it in your family group chat. If you don't have one already, just make one.
Starting point is 01:24:29 I would write, quote, thanks grandma for those, but I won't be needing them. Maybe you can send them back to wherever you got them from and get a refund. I love that you took the time to find me a present and I hate to say this, but this isn't my taste and without consulting a doctor could really harm me. You don't owe her dignity." True. That's too nice of a message. And someone, they edit, I would never eat or drink anything near her again.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Yeah. Yeah. No, for real. I didn't even put my brain there. Yeah. No ingesting near Vivian. She is Vivian. She is Vivian. That blows my mind. I do like treating it like a bracelet.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Being like, yeah, thanks, but I really didn't like the bracelet. I didn't like it. It's not for me. It could cause a rash. In fact, it could kill me. I don't know. But that, again, like we just said, that's like, that's too nice of a... No, I think she should be like, thanks, Grandma, for the abortion pills that you wanted me to
Starting point is 01:25:30 get rid of my child with your son. I won't be doing that. I would make it very explicit. So I would have like, however you're going to announce your pregnancy to the family, I would also tie in and be like, oh, and grandma, here's those pills you gave us. Won't be needing those. Thanks. Like I would, I would blast it. I would absolutely blast this from the rooftops. Yeah. That's something that the family needs to know happened. I just have a feeling that
Starting point is 01:25:57 they know it's like, that's this someone who does something like this doesn't just suddenly do this extreme. They've been been acting crazy for a while. Yep. Well, and like she clearly has access to resources. So it's like, what else is she capable of? I just picture her with like a freaking needle being like, let me tuck you in. Like a cartoon nurse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Potassium between the toes. Terrible. Oof. Wow. So bad. Potassium between the toes. Terrible. Oof. Wow. So bad. But OP responds to that. Yes, I was immediately concerned about what I ate and drank there. I actually threw up.
Starting point is 01:26:34 And like I mentioned somewhere in the other replies, I am scared of both of them at the moment. As in fiance also? Wait. That's the context I would construe. There's no other character has been mentioned. The only positive thing now is I can have a blah blah blah by myself and I can leave as it's the first trimester.
Starting point is 01:27:00 We are missing something very big here. She can have the baby by herself. Why is she scared of the fiance now? I don't want to be a single mom and I would rather make a tough choice than deal with this family's shit. Whoa. And obviously with my partner
Starting point is 01:27:17 that I thought loved me and our child. Oh, he's done some shit. I think if this doesn't get resolved and talked about, I'll have issues just because of the stress. What went down? Yeah, we've missed a chapter of this story, but... Well, he hasn't said anything. That's what I'm assuming.
Starting point is 01:27:34 He hasn't said anything. She doesn't want to say anything, because clearly, maybe when she's said things in the past, the mom, Vivian, humiliated her. Yeah. I'm not seeing any other comments from OP, but on the screenshots I have, we do have an edit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Okay. Edit to those wondering how she could have gotten these pills without being pregnant. They can be ordered online and delivered discreetly. You don't have to go to a clinic or she could have just paid someone to get them. Either way, they're accessible and honestly, I don't give a shit how she acquired them. It's what she did with them. Damn, wow. There's something really, this is like,
Starting point is 01:28:13 this is giving, what was that crazy show on HBO, Succession? This is giving like a very rich, powerful, crazy family. Absolutely. Like there's- Like handling business. Yeah, like is she gonna be handled? Like they're not engaged yet, but they're planning on getting engaged soon. So this is clear. The first thing I thought of was like, maybe the son, the fiance isn't doing anything because
Starting point is 01:28:38 it's like, well, mommy's mommy's money source. So it's like, if I, if I fight mommy, I'm cut off Yeah, how many girlfriends has he lost in the past? To mommy to mommy Wow Probably a lot Cuz he's not he's not gonna fight for her. It's clear right? No. Oh This is awful Now she's like maybe I do have to get an abortion
Starting point is 01:29:06 just simply to, because I don't want to be a single mom. This is- Then Vivian wins. I know. I hate that. Don't you want to just skip to nine months later and she has the baby and she's happy? And she's not with him?
Starting point is 01:29:20 She ran away to Europe and found like an amazing new partner. So six foot five, Parisian man. Oh my God, yeah. She just eats crepes all day. Yeah, she eats crepes all day and she swims all day. Yeah. So the crepes barely make a mark on her at all because she's swimming all day.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Strolls around the garden with her nice little baby buggy. Oh! Wow, can we all just go? All we need is one K and a basic gift card. One K and one baby. Tickets to Europe. I'm, dude, I just need, I need to go over there. It's just so happy over there.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I know. And granted I'm on vacation, so I know it's a little different, but like, I loved Paris. Like, I had the best. Never been to Paris. I was really nervous to go and had the most magical time. I've heard Paris is really nice.
Starting point is 01:30:13 It was so good. I've also heard it's like kind of like crummy city, but like it's a city. Like, so it's like, what do you expect kind of vibes. Right. Anyway, I've never been outside of the United States. You haven't? He hasn't.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Do you have a passport? He needs to. Let's work on that. No't. Do you have a passport? He needs to. Let's work on that. No, he needs to get a passport. He needs to go. Let's work on that. He needs to go. There's so much out there to see.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Come on, honey. I know. I was gonna go with my friend on his Europe trip this next year, but then I was like, oh, can I spend that long with him? That's a true question. I'm like, I don't want to go to Europe alone. Commit to a portion.
Starting point is 01:30:47 You will. Just commit to a portion of the trip. A little portion, yeah. That's true, and do like four days on your own. You've enjoyed solo trips. I have. I have, I've soloed before. I've soloed before.
Starting point is 01:31:00 I agree with you, sometimes you can't always travel with friends. It's just, you know. Some friends you're not meant to travel with. Nope. Yeah. They could be like your greatest friends. You have so much fun. But sometimes travel is a totally different beast.
Starting point is 01:31:14 It's a lot with certain people. I'm gonna wait till I got my mans. And we're like, let's go to Europe together, honey. Yeah, let's go. That would be lovely. What if you honestly though, what if you went over there and then met your man there? And then you would get dual citizenship. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Eat, pray, book. I'm going to Europe immediately. I'm going to Europe tomorrow. I'm just saying, maybe your person isn't here and that's why you don't have your person yet. You need your path port. I need my path port. You need your path port. I'm going to get my path port right now. It person yet. Wow, I need my path port. You need your path port.
Starting point is 01:31:45 I need to get my path port right now. It's time. Wow. It's time. Wow, OP's on the nice list. 100%. Very. And Vivian is on the naughty
Starting point is 01:31:55 and fiance is on the naughty, I think. Yeah. Okay, moving along, moving along. Cause I only got here for a couple more. Okay. Moving along. Moving along, because I only got here for a couple more. Okay. Wow. Oh! Oh! What am I going to do without you?
Starting point is 01:32:10 I'm glad we didn't end on that one. Oh, hell no. That would have been intense. I would not do us dirty like that. This is a holiday episode. We have to provide some cheer, which this one does feel a little better, this next one, but we'll see.
Starting point is 01:32:23 We'll see. Okay, friends, are we better, this next one, but we'll see, we'll see. Okay, friends, are we ready for this next one? Our audible audiobook hot takes are in. We had over 1,600 responses on audiobook hot takes from you guys. Poof, poof, poof. Some of them are really, like you you guys came out swinging. You were just coming in hot. Audiobooks are very like people have strong feelings about them.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Not surprised. Not surprised at all. Well let's get into these audiobook hot takes which these are brought to you guys from our friends at Audible. If you hear these hot takes or stories or whatever we get into and want to try Audible, you can actually get 30 days for free. Audible.com slash THT. Link will be in the description. So don't worry, but let's let's dive in. Okay? I listen to audible books all the time. I've always had a reading comprehension issue where I feel like I have to read a sentence two to three times to fully digest and understand what I just read. When I listen to audio books, I can avoid this issue,
Starting point is 01:33:38 though I sometimes will fall asleep, but that's another issue. I get angry when people say listening is not the same as reading. The way I see it, if I'm retaining the story, I'm successfully completing a book. I'm sure the author is happy either way. Yeah, I mean reading, listening, they're all ways of conveying a message. As long as message is received and understood, what's the difference? I completely agree.
Starting point is 01:34:09 I think it's so odd when people like fight over this that like audio books aren't real books. It's like, it's the same book. How is it not real? Like some people are visual learners. Some people are audio learners. You're telling me you didn't retain that when your kindergarten teacher read you a story?
Starting point is 01:34:29 Audiobooks, you're being read. When your parents read you bedtime stories to fall asleep? You were being told an audiobook. This next one, I love reading and listening to audio books. I got into audio books when I was on maternity leave with my first born. It really helped keep my sanity while having to bounce the baby for hours in the dark.
Starting point is 01:34:54 It was easier for her to fall back asleep. I love having them for house projects I'm working on, road trips, walks with the baby. And even when I was at work, listening to books I don't think I wouldn't otherwise read. Fahrenheit 451, a couple of Dickens books, The Hobbit, to name a few, as well as some Sarah J. Maas and the like.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Gotta say, I'm also guilty of listening at 1.5 speed most of the time, but I really just find most of the narratives slash podcasts speak too slowly for me. Oh, sorry. Thanks ADHD, most likely just because they are enunciating. I try, but I, I think that is also a really cool point of this is like you are listening to audio books that you otherwise probably wouldn't like
Starting point is 01:35:41 Fahrenheit 451 is a classic. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I'm picturing someone holding a book and driving. Is that what you guys want? Is that real reading? I'm picturing someone running, going for their morning run and running with the book
Starting point is 01:35:58 and trying to read as the book bounces versus just listening. It's hands-free. I love the line. Like it helped me keep my sanity. Yeah. I love it. Okay, this next one, bit of a hot take here.
Starting point is 01:36:15 I love an audio book until there is some sort of character singing in the book. It's so different to reading a song compared to a narrator singing, so I'm speaking it. And then I don't know how far to skip to get the singing away. I've never even considered that. I didn't either. Yeah, having a song read to you. Imagine your favorite song. All of a sudden someone's just reading the lyrics poetically to you. I mean I've read books that have poems in them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:47 So I can imagine the poem in like an audiobook then just being like so soothing, coming from that narrator's voice and just like really fitting in how you would be like, Rome, it's typically my romance books, how you'd be like romanced with it. So I'm like, I love that. But the singing, how you'd be like romanced with it. So I'm like, I love that, but the singing, I'm really curious about it. But I know Wicked is like all the buzz right now, which I get it. Wicked is actually on Audible, the original novel. Did you know it's not a musical?
Starting point is 01:37:21 The original Wicked is not a musical. So you could go on Audible, listen to the audio book of Wicked, and then go see the musical and compare. Like that to me, I'm like, I already want to see it again. So I'm like, but I'm doing this. I'm going to literally listen to it on Audible, get the original foundation, and then see.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Yeah. This is gonna be so good. I wonder what the comparison between listening to a book and reading it or vice versa would be. The same book. How would the experiences compare and which stands out more to you? Which did you take more from?
Starting point is 01:38:03 That would be an interesting comparison. Well, our next take mentions a little bit about that. Audiobooks are better than physical books. Being able to hear the book through the actual character makes it feel a little more real. And the spicy scenes are just that much better. Chef's kiss. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:25 I mean, it makes sense. You know, in the music world, when you hear the songwriter that originally wrote the song, sing the song from themselves, it's their experience. It comes across in a whole different way and it connects on a different level. Yeah. It's kind of the same also when there's a reason they have authors come to libraries and read sections of their book. Oh my gosh. Because they're reading it in a way that maybe you're not interpreting it as, maybe the voice in your head is not reading it as they intended.
Starting point is 01:39:00 That, yeah. And when you listen to an audiobook, I'm sure some of that intentions baked into the notes of when you read this section, when you do this, it's probably read in the way the author is intending. It totally is. And I think it's so like, think about in your own life when you get a text message from a friend and you're like, oh, are they mad at me? And it's like two dots. You can literally like infer so much based on words. But if you're listening to that audio book,
Starting point is 01:39:27 you're gonna get it like, like you said, like you're gonna get those inner workings, the enunciation in the parts they want it, because that adds so much power. And there's so much thought and curation behind the readings on these audio books. And also it still doesn't take away from your imagination and how you're gonna interpret it. Like it's such, it's such a good experience. It really is. This next take, I think
Starting point is 01:39:51 we are really going to love because we were just talking to our friend Michaela about this. Audible is definitely the best way to hit your reading goal. One thing about the story that we read the last time when we asked for these hot takes, she was trying to hit her reading goal of 100 books in a year, which I forgot about that. That's why she was listening on three times speed. When I was actively listening to books on audible and doing long drives, it was the only way to keep me sane. I was driving nine hours one way for military training and I plowed through dozens upon dozens of audiobooks with my subscription. I prefer hard copies of books nowadays, but especially when I'm traveling, it's the best way to read, especially if you're like
Starting point is 01:40:34 me and get motion sick on planes. Sometimes some narrators read super slow for me, which is when 2x or 3x speed comes in handy. don't get me started on neurodivergence as well. Most people who are neurodivergent can listen insanely fast and comprehend really well. Yeah. For me, when I listen to something when I drive, like an audio book, I'm way less likely to like get distracted driving.
Starting point is 01:41:00 I feel like it is so helpful. I think it's a lot of the reason why people listen to us in the podcast when they're driving or cleaning or doing things. It's like, it keeps you engaged. It's like you're, you have a buddy with you. Well, and it makes it go faster, right? Because when you're focused on something
Starting point is 01:41:16 that's not just the same lane you're trying to stay in for hours and hours and hours, you know, because most of the time you're probably not driving through mountains and beautiful landscapes. You're just on a straight road forever. And if you sit there and you're just kind of going through that monotony, it's going to feel like it takes forever. Highway hypnosis is a real thing.
Starting point is 01:41:38 And when you put something on that you can listen to, you're like, oh my God, I'm here. Number one, listening to hot takes. Number two, audio book on Audible. Just kidding, audio book number one. This next one, and this is all caps, ready? I love, love, love audio books because it is something I can share with my 19 year old autistic son.
Starting point is 01:42:07 He cannot converse during meal time, but I hate the chomping down food silence. So we listened to a shared audio book, pause the story and the meal and discuss and share our predictions before we continue the story. It is perfect. We listen at normal speed. That's awesome. I love that. It is perfect. We listen at normal speed. That's awesome. I love that.
Starting point is 01:42:27 I love this. Like, that's the other aspect of this. It's like, you could put it on in a car with someone, you're hearing the information at the same speed, versus like, oh, hey, you grab a copy, I'll grab a copy. That's a lot. And then it's like, you can pause and talk like, Oh, the character like that, what they just said, like, wow, like it's more of a together activity versus, Oh, I'm on page 200. Oh, I'm on page 75. And then you're just disconnected. You're on your own journey.
Starting point is 01:43:03 I didn't think of the suspect. You're not sharing the experience, and now you can. Okay, I actually really liked the idea, and maybe this is out there, but you know, like book clubs, how people like, you have to read, and it's like, you're like, oh, everyone better get through this chapter, this whole book by the time we meet. And it's like, that's a lot of pressure,
Starting point is 01:43:21 but what if we had audio book clubs and you come and you show up with your snacks and your good drinks and then you just play it and you sit there and just relax with your people? Like that? That's a club I would sign up for. Yeah. And then you pause and you chat about the chapter and then you move on and you listen to the next one.
Starting point is 01:43:44 We might be on to something here. I honestly think we should make this the standard because remember in school when you'd get the textbook and then have the little CD in it? Yeah. And the CD was the audio version of the textbook? Yeah, it's complimentary. I would always use the CD and listen to it
Starting point is 01:44:02 and do way better than just reading through. And I think a lot of students would. So that is really funny that you mentioned this. We've just like, it's been a little pinball machine. Our next hot take, I think schools should use audiobooks. With audiobooks being helpful, not only to Papa Jerry for his dyslexia, it could help kids who have it as well. It could help others with learning disabilities as well as help with focusing on learning and not stressing about having to read long paragraphs.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Add it horrible in school and lack concentration and motivation and feel like audio books could change that. I have not seen whatever you're looking at. So that is pretty crazy. I know I didn't warn you at all. Our last one that we're going to read. One thing that will grind my gears like no other, people who think audio books do not count as reading and have something to say about the speed I listen at.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Okay, one last one. I lied. I did lie. This last one. Everyone is different, which is why audio books are a beautiful tool to welcome more people into the reading community. People need to stop being exclusive gatekeepers. I'm beyond grateful for audiobooks and the way I am able to listen to stories that have changed my life for the better. It has also led to community.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Book clubs, book podcasts, etc. I mean, it's the reality of life today, right? We're in our cars, we're walking, we're doing chores around the house, whatever it may be, we can listen to an audio book. And why would that be an issue for someone who's read the book? Because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:45:41 when you read or listen to an amazing book, what's the first thing you want to do? I want to share it with my friend. I want to share it with my mom. I want to share it with whoever it may be. And if they can't sit down and physically read the book, would you rather have them never experience the book in any way? Or would you rather have them experience it and connect with them on it, even though they went and listened to it,
Starting point is 01:46:04 and they probably had a better experience than you did. Yeah, I love this. I'm always in the boat of teach their own, right? If you want to pick up a physical copy, do it. But I love how much access this creates. I love that last one, the sense of community and outside community they found. Like, I just love that there's so much to this and really it provides such a good outlet.
Starting point is 01:46:33 And I bet there's a lot of you out there that have Pavlov'd yourself, just like the podcast. I love our cleaning crew that's like, oh, podcast is on, we got to start cleaning. I'm sure there's so many of you out there that like can't clean or hate driving without having your audio book on. And so I think whatever floats your boat and makes you happy, but I think Audible is a great way to test out audio books, give it a go. So if you do wanna try Audible,
Starting point is 01:47:00 new members can try Audible right now for free for 30 days. You just visit audible.com slash THT or if you guys want to text, just text THT to 500 500. That's audible.com slash THT or text THT to 500 500 to try Audible free for 30 days. Let me know what your favorite is. I'm taking audiobook recommendations now. That's the next one you can let me know about. Okay. Okay. Moving on to the next one. So this is coming from r slash Petty Revenge.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Okay. Fine. Couple months old, titled, I've been calling my sister by her full given name when she deadnames my niece. I love that. titled, I've been calling my sister by her full given name when she dead names my niece. Dead name. I love that.
Starting point is 01:47:49 What's dead name? Dead name. When someone transitions the name that they used to go by. Oh, yes, yes, yes. When she dead names my niece. Got it. It's the name that is dead. Yep.
Starting point is 01:48:00 She gone. Okay. My brother's kid, 22 female, came out as trans on her 21st birthday about a year ago, and she changed her name from Lance to Lacey. Fake names. Most of our family accepted it, and the ones who didn't weren't close anyways, except our sister Eva, 45 female. We are Native American family with a lot of creative names and
Starting point is 01:48:26 my sister's birth name is something close to Evangeline. But she decided to go by Eva after a white kid said her name was Rezzed Out, low-class stereotypical name from an Indian reservation. She insisted on Eva for about 35 years and we all obliged. Now she's regularly been calling my trans niece by her dead name Lance since she came out as trans. So I started calling her Evangeline, which she hates. The whole family caught on and have only been referring to her as Evangeline for about a year now. And she is furious every time she comes to family events. Recently, she's been calling me by my full first name to bother me.
Starting point is 01:49:18 My first name is a portmanteau hyphenation of my mom's four sister's names. Something like Alexiana Dorothiki, but wackier. Iconic. People have always called me A.D. or Lexi, or my brother calls me Doe-Doe since he was a kid. I love my first full names, but it's cumbersome to use an eight syllable name regularly. Well, my full name caught on with family and friends. Just despite Evangeline, we have all reverted back to our full names instead of our nicknames. Our dad is no longer Frank, he's Franklin. Our mom is no longer Roz,
Starting point is 01:49:58 she's Rosalyn. Brother is no longer Nate, he's Nathaniel. Sister-in-law is no longer Kate, she is Katherine, etc. This has truly driven Evangeline away, which was the plan in the first place. Lacey makes for better company, so good riddance to the one crappy sister. Hell yeah. Wow. That's iconic. I do love that. This is iconic. And I wonder if Evangeline ever called anyone out. Like, why are you calling me?
Starting point is 01:50:30 And did she ever say, like, don't use my niece's dead name? Don't use your niece's dead name? I'm sure either the niece or someone made a point at some point to say that. Cause it's like, you know, when someone transitions you, like you respect whatever they want, you know, whatever they want, you respect them.
Starting point is 01:50:47 That's the whole thing. And if you like, if you're, if you screw up someone's name, like you go, oh shit, I'm sorry. Like, oh, whoa, sorry. And then like usually it's like, okay, that's fine. Moving on, you know? But if you keep doing it, then it's like, you're making the decision to disrespect this person. And so there you go, Evangeline.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Evangeline. Wow. That is, I love this family. This is amazing. What a way to handle it. Everyone is so supportive. Like this is the most satisfying story I think I've had in quite some time. Yes, this is awesome.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Because how frustrating would that be? Like you're transitioning, you're transitioning, you're being your most true, authentic self and someone just keeps like putting you back into the box of the past. Oh, okay Lance, it's Lacey now. It's Lacey.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Like that would be so frustrating. Transitioning is already so challenging. Hard, scary, complicated enough. And then, I'm so happy for Lacey having a literal family behind her to be like, get out. Like we got you. I know. We got you.
Starting point is 01:51:52 That's awesome. Lacey lucked out with that. I mean, changing your name, it can be hard, but it's like, if you repeat it, if you change it in your phone, like my sister changed her name and I just immediately changed in my phone, put on everything, kept doing it. And my family, they are really doing a good job. They're really trying.
Starting point is 01:52:11 But of course they go back to the old name a lot when they're talking to me. And I'm just like, you're like, it's this now. That's her name. Yeah. That's her name. Like, I don't even use her old name because you just practice. Yeah. It's hard. You can take some getting used to it old name because you just practice. Yeah. It's hard.
Starting point is 01:52:25 You can take some getting used to it. It's just a little switch you flip on and you're just like active until it becomes habit again. And then that switch doesn't have to come on anymore. It's important to that. Just like you learn anything. Oh, let me take my shoes off when I get home as opposed to walking around with my shoes on.
Starting point is 01:52:38 Same thing. Yeah, there's poop particles on those things. You gotta take them off. There's what? There's poop particles all over the bottom of your shoe. Then you're going to walk around barefoot in your home. So I shouldn't put my shoes in my bed? I'm kidding. You put them on your pillow first.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Deed deed deed deed deed. That is a hot topic though. Like outside clothes in your bed and the hell you like you can't do it. It's gross. No, yeah. It's gross. I don't do outside clothes. Sometimes I get lazy and I just want to take my nap right away. Yeah. Do it. But yeah, I don't do outside clothes. No. Sometimes I get lazy and I just want to take my nap right away.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Yeah. No. I do it. But yeah, I agree. Like you're going to have a slip here and again, like, you know, muscle memory, whatever, but to do it intentionally hurtfully, like that's, that's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:53:20 So I do really love, love this story. Me too. But what I don't love is one of these next ones. Oh no. Which here's your choice, okay? Oh, we get to pick. Yay! You guys get to pick. Okay, option number one,
Starting point is 01:53:35 am I the asshole for agreeing to wear my mother-in-law's wedding dress for my wedding? Or option number two, am I the asshole for sacrificing the guest room instead of the office space? I have my answer. Do you have your answer? I think so. I think. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Two, one, wedding dress. Yep. Okay. You said one and I was like, wait, what? I know, I was like, one wedding dress. You've been wed before. I've been wed before. And I love like, wait, what? I know, I got scared. I'm like, one wedding dress. I think, well, you've been wed before. I've been wed before. And I love a drama.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Here we go. I love a drama and I don't have a guest room. No, I don't know what that's like. So I can't relate. I have a one bedroom. My one room is a bedroom. Same. Same.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Correct. I like it. Okay, here we go then. It is coming from Am I the Asshole? One month old. Am I the asshole for agreeing to wear my mother-in-law's wedding dress for my wedding? So I, 26 female, am getting married in three months to my fiance, 34 male. It's going to be a small ceremony at my grandparents' house. I know it's kind of late to be talking about dresses, but I was originally planning to wear my stepmom's wedding dress. It's a beautiful wedding dress that
Starting point is 01:54:43 I love, and it means a lot to me because she's the one who raised me and loved me when my bio mom didn't want me. But here's the thing, while planning the wedding I got pregnant. I'm three months along now so I'll be six months pregnant at the wedding. The dress from my stepmom is tight-fitting and there's no way it's going to fit a six month baby bum. I was devastated. Not because I'd have to buy a new dress, but because I really wanted that special mother daughter bond on my wedding day. Last weekend, I was venting about it to my mother-in-law and I broke down crying. She then said she'd be honored if I wore her wedding dress. She showed it to me and it's a stunning vintage dress
Starting point is 01:55:31 from the 70s with a boho hippie vibe, gorgeous embroidery, and funnily enough, she was pregnant when she wore it too. Well, she made me feel so loved and welcomed, so I accepted. The issue is, my mother-in-law has a daughter, my sister-in-law. And when she found out that I got the dress, she was furious. She actually came over to my house trying to take the dress back, and even said I was living in sin for getting pregnant before marriage.
Starting point is 01:56:05 Okay. My fiance kicked her out and told her not to worry since she's always thought the dress was ugly and never wanted it anyways. Oh, there you go. Still, she and my father-in-law have been harassing me on social media and through messages. Oh, my God. Even though my fiance and mother-in-law have been harassing me on social media and through messages. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Even though my fiance and mother-in-law don't care what my sister-in-law thinks, I kind of feel like a jerk because if my mom did something like this, I'd probably feel a little hurt by it too. So am I the asshole? Wow. Okay, this was as juicy as I thought. This is very juicy. I want to say immediately that she's not the asshole, but if I were in her position,
Starting point is 01:56:49 I would just give the dress back. Also, why doesn't she just take out the dress... I was thinking, like, modify the original dress if you can. It might not have enough fabric. Because, like, there's only so much wiggle room to play. I mean, you could add panels. Like you could add panels. Like a well qualified seamstress could
Starting point is 01:57:14 you definitely make it work. Might be hard to match fabric, but. Might be expensive. There's a lot of hurdles. Why is the mother-in-law letting the daughter act like this? Well, the father-in-law too is messaging her too. I would just give the dress back. I wouldn't. Oh, I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:57:34 No, I know. I know. I'm with you too, because it's just like, fuck that. She thought it was ugly and hated it. This is like a little kid with a toy. I want the toy. Now that you have the toy. But it's like, what do you want to deal with? Do you want to deal with this harassment while you're pregnant?
Starting point is 01:57:54 And getting married. It's always stressful and getting married. I just wouldn't want that energy brought into my wedding day. Same. Cause I feel like if I had the dress on and I was wedding, they'd be like, oh, well, I see you're wearing the dress. Exactly. I would be like, those comments.
Starting point is 01:58:09 What if she made a contract with the sister and she was just like, I will give back the dress if you write in this contract with lawyers that you promised to wear it on your wedding day. I like that idea. That's funny. Lock her in on the dress. I will give it back to you. If you have to wear it on your wedding day and sign this contract.
Starting point is 01:58:28 If you're going to harass me online, you better be wearing this dress. I love that actually. That's kind of iconic. There's no way she would sign though. And like. Of course. So then you keep the dress.
Starting point is 01:58:39 I know. Or maybe she signs and doesn't do it, which is just even worse. Living in sin? Get out. Okay, I totally spaced that comment out. Like, what? Ma'am, this is not the 1800s. Yeah, what are we talking about?
Starting point is 01:58:57 Wow, this is... Man. Also, a good Christian would not hurt thy neighbor. Exactly. Turn the other cheek. Treat others how you would like to be treated. So you want to, you would say, hold on to the dress. I would. I mean, your mother-in-law, like, she gave this to you and I think she kind of would know where her daughter is at. If there was context where,
Starting point is 01:59:23 she kind of would know where her daughter is at. If there was context where like, OP was like, I know my sister-in-law like isn't getting married anytime soon, but she's dreamed of wearing this dress. Then I would say give it back. Or if she even liked the dress and there was a chance. Yeah, okay, don't open up that can of worms or that drama, but she thinks it's ugly. She doesn't like the dress.
Starting point is 01:59:44 She doesn't like the dress. She doesn't like the dress. She wouldn't wear the dress. She just doesn't want her to wear it. This person loves it. Comments on the beautiful embroidery, the hippie boho vibe. It's a dream for this person. And she gets to bond with her mother-in-law.
Starting point is 01:59:56 So it's like, it's clearly in the right home, but how do you get past dealing with these crazy people? Yeah. Contract. I love this idea. I think this would be like, fine, I'll wear it first. And then you have to wear it on your wedding day. Or are you saying your contract, you're like, I'll give it back. I will give it back to you and not wear it if you promise and we're going to put something
Starting point is 02:00:19 leverage, like there's leverage in this contract that you have to wear it on your wedding day. Like that's even, that's really petty. But also, what they're doing is being petty. And also, this dress belonged to the mother-in-law. But there always is that thing with, like, married and daughter versus real daughter. Those are real things. Luckily, I don't experience it with my mother-in-law. She is unbelievable and incredible. But like, I couldn't imagine if I had to experience that. So that's why part of me is like, at first was like,
Starting point is 02:00:55 just get back the dress, because like, who knows? Yeah. We have a little context that I think you will be excited to hear. So someone goes, right, why can't they both wear the dress? I love this idea. OP, see if your fiance can propose this idea to her. You are lucky to have such a great mother-in-law and your sister-in-law may come around. Eventually.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Someone goes, sister-in-law doesn't even like the dress. She doesn't want to wear it either way. So OP responds to this comment and goes, she is in her second marriage. Maybe she can wear it for her third. Wow. Okay. Love that. Okay, she's not giving back the dress.
Starting point is 02:01:40 She had two opportunities to wear that dress. This is her second marriage. No shame. No to wear that dress. This is her second marriage. No shame. No giving back that dress. But she had two opportunities. Fuck the contract, don't give her back the dress. Absolutely never give that. Do not give that dress up.
Starting point is 02:01:55 She had two chances. That piece of context, very important. Very important. I needed to hear that before I drew up the contracts with my lawyers. The lawyers, you can tell them they're dismissed. They actually won't need your services to that. They're like, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 02:02:09 Wow. Hold that retainer, guys. Wow. Yeah. That's iconic. To be like, she can use it on her third. What an asshole. Insane.
Starting point is 02:02:19 So what is she getting at? Like, is it truly just like, oh, you're being shown affection from my mom and I'm not? Yes, I think so. That's all this stems from? It's something that she feels like is in the family and hers, and she doesn't want someone out of the family to have it. Bingo.
Starting point is 02:02:36 She's in the family, she's getting married. Bingo. But this woman isn't accepting it. No, and some people don't even look at, like, when it comes to heirlooms, they don't think heirlooms can be passed down by a woman that marries in. Correct. It has to be blood.
Starting point is 02:02:51 It has to be blood. Like some people are goofy like that. So OP does have a comment. She never wears anything like this. It doesn't match her vibe or style and she's already married. I think this dress is expensive and she just wants an heirloom or something. On the money, Amanda. That'll do it.
Starting point is 02:03:09 People get very possessive over heirlooms. Like, the biggest fights siblings have is when their mom or father dies, and they go through their stuff. Yeah. Like, that is so intense, especially jewelry. Yeah. Whoo! The fights over stuff like that. I mean, people come out of the woodwork when family passes. is so intense, especially jewelry. Yeah. Woo! The fights over stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:03:26 I mean, people come out of the woodwork when family passes. Oh yeah, it's like they don't talk at all to the person and then they're like, oh, that home? I mean, once you get homes involved. What's my cut? Exactly. What's my cut? It's really sad.
Starting point is 02:03:40 Never been more excited to be an only child. Yeah, you never have to deal with that. You're gonna get everything your parents give you. My dad's signed baseballs. And you're going to put them in your one bedroom. Yeah, I'll put it right there. Honestly, baseball wall, like, looks pretty cool. It's got three baseballs.
Starting point is 02:03:59 It doesn't feel like it connects with you at all. I'm like, I could space them out really far and have it be a baseball. It doesn't feel like it's you at all. You might have to get some more. Sports and me, you don't see the connection there? Not baseballs. No, I don't look like someone who moves too fast. Really? You give coordinated energy.
Starting point is 02:04:14 That's nice. No, he's coordinated. I can move. He's coordinated. I'm not a dancer, but I can move. You can move. No, I always, I drop something at least like five times a day. Yeah, same. Cluts, don't know how long. No, that's me. My at least like five times a day Yeah, same.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Clots don't know how long my limbs are longer than I think. My phone, I'm like this thing I go through screen protectors like no other bang bang all day every day I don't I don't have a case or a screen protector. Which is I know. You're a raw dog in that? Yeah. I sure am. What?
Starting point is 02:04:42 He's living life on the edge. For someone that drops something five times a day that's insane. I know. I don't know. I'm impressed but a little scared. What? He's living life on the edge. For someone that drops something five times a day, that's insane. I don't know. I'm impressed, but a little scared. Yep. Just a little kooky like that. Very scary.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Very scary. Scary shit. Yeah. There's a couple other comments from OP kind of just elaborating on mother-in-law, father-in-law, dynamic with sister-in-law. Mother-in-law and father-in-law have been divorced for 20 years. Oh, they're not even together. Not together.
Starting point is 02:05:07 Father-in-law and sister-in-law did not even congratulate them when they got engaged or announced their pregnancy. Done. Keep that dress. Mm-hmm. These are like... Monster people. Little side character villains coming in to be like... Meh!
Starting point is 02:05:23 Fiance doesn't even really talk to his dad. Oh, then F them. So these are strangers coming in being like, hey. Just wear the dress, fuck them. Yeah, and there is some history behind the mother-in-law and this dress and being pregnant during her wedding. It does kind of have a sad, like resolution. And so like for the mother-in-law to even offer this up,
Starting point is 02:05:51 OP finds even more meaningful. Like this was such a sentimental big deal for her. And so to be looked at as family and offered this dress, I find so beautiful. So I think because of the comments, OP comes to some senses and starts to get a little mad at sister-in-law instead of feeling bad. Top comment, not the asshole. Sister-in-law can feel some kind of way about you wearing the dress,
Starting point is 02:06:17 but her behavior is out of line. It's sweet that your mother-in-law offered you the dress. I love that for you. In my view, sister-in-law could view eventually also wearing the dress as something special you share instead of reacting like this. My mom and her two stepsisters all wore the same vintage Reid hand-me-down dress and they cherished it. And then that's where OP gets into the fact that this would be for her third wedding. She's 39, you know, but she had two chances. Oh yeah, she doesn't want to wear the dress.
Starting point is 02:06:50 No. So, not the asshole. Did she wear the dress? Do we find out? This is a month old. So we got to check back in two months. Check back in two months. We got to check back. There's no update on this one. Wear the dress.
Starting point is 02:07:06 Wear the dress. Wear the dress. Wear it every day. Wear it every day. It's the only thing you wear now. Oh, that's a lot. You are a cartoon character and you wear the same thing every day.
Starting point is 02:07:17 And it's that dress. You deserve it. You're so right. Cartoon characters never change their outfit. They don't. Mm-mm. I wish I could go through life like that. Just knowing what I'm gonna wear every day.
Starting point is 02:07:27 I mean, I love... I just found a bunch of black and beige stuff, so everything kind of matches all the time. Yeah. Except for today, I'm wearing it. No, that's me. And then I have this thing. I'm like, it's got a power pack on it even. Oh, I was talking about lights, like starting a fire.
Starting point is 02:07:39 You have lights on your sweater. Your sweater lights turn on? Yeah, I think. Oh my god. Wow. You saved it till the end of the app to give us a little light show. That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:07:52 Yeah, it's going to be for my thumbnail now. But one last comment. Yeah. To double down the wear the dress, the sister-in-law has called the dress ugly and tacky and just said you must have a lot of emotion attached to that dress. Oh. Wow.
Starting point is 02:08:10 And she doesn't. Huh. Wear that dress. Because weddings are emotional. Yes, they are. They're sentimental and emotional. Hello? Insane. Insane. Insane.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Wow. These stories made me kind of rageful. Yeah, a lot of them were like... Yeah. Yeah. Merry Christmas. I love the little feral sound effects. It's feral.
Starting point is 02:08:36 He's feral. I wear the dress. Grr. Thank you guys so much for coming on. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Where can everyone find you both? Obviously, you're on Smosh, it'll be linked, but where else can people find you? Because you're funny.
Starting point is 02:08:51 You just had like a big comedy show the other night. I did a live show. We did our podcast Smosh Mouth at Dynasty Typewriter. Unreal. We had 10,000 people watching. I just found out this morning. Oh. A lot. Livest morning. Oh! Live stream. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:09:06 And then a full audience. It was so unbelievably cool. That's incredible. Could not do it on our own. Like, we had a whole team helping us. It was unbelievable. You have an amazing team at Smosh. Such an amazing team. It was really beautiful. Your holiday party I got to go to, I'm like, everyone is so nice. I just...
Starting point is 02:09:24 Adopted me. I know. You just have I'm like, everyone is so nice. I just adopted me. It's just like, you just have great vibes. Everyone. It's amazing. Yeah, literally come in whenever. Don't tempt me with a good time. I mean, seriously. Don't tempt me with a good time. We gotta have you on Sposh Mouth.
Starting point is 02:09:36 Yeah. You just say when, girl. You just say when. But where can everyone find you both? When is this coming out? This week. Oh, that's wild. Okay.
Starting point is 02:09:48 I have quick turnaround times here. No, like- No, I love that. Okay. Well, it's not out yet, but in the new year in January, mid January, go check out my YouTube channel, Tomey Bones, T-O-M-E-Y-B-O-N-E-S.
Starting point is 02:10:01 I've got my second season of serving C word, which I will make you a censor here, where we look at stupid pictures of stuff and decide whether they're C-Word or not. And Amanda's gonna be the first episode. So if you like this dynamic, it's so good. It's a lot of fun.
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Starting point is 02:10:50 which are just like microscopic sea creatures photographed that night and cocktails. Oh my God. Cocktails. It's so much fun. Anyway, so that's where you can go check me out at Tommy Bones everywhere. Okay, yay.
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Starting point is 02:11:27 We have other guests. He's been on there three times. Which is big. It's huge. So that's where you can find me. I love it. Thank you both so much. This was amazing.
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