Two Hot Takes - 20: All In A Day’s Work..

Episode Date: June 10, 2021

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-hosts/besties, Lauren and Alejandra! The girl gang is all together for the first time!! They go in on stories related to work related dilemmas and pro...blems in peoples relationships caused by work. They start with listener write ins where one woman is questioning if ending it with her fiancé was justified after he cheated due to a new job and another woman whose coworker is crossing boundaries with her hubby! They then head into the reddit stories where a girl pretends to gets fired when customers lose their tempers, an individual who called her coworker chunky after she was bullied, a woman who is questioning going to HR over what her coworkers are calling her, a woman who moved into her boyfriends game room for work from home, and another woman whose boyfriend threw away all her fun work socks. As always your support is so appreciated: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes

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Starting point is 00:01:07 Should we talk about our suits? Yes, Lauren. Please explain why we're in Blazers. Full-blown Blazers business attire. Well, I was talking to my boyfriend, Jeff, and he said that he watched the episode, the Friends episode, where I'm wearing a yellow raggedy shirt. And I said, I don't really like-
Starting point is 00:01:26 The one with your toothpaste on it? Yeah. I really like how I looked in that one. And I thought he was just going to respond, no, he looked great, but he's like, well, you know, clothing obviously is really important. So maybe you just want to think about that moving forward. For example, he goes, for example, I had an interview
Starting point is 00:01:45 and I wore a suit and they said they really, really liked my suit. And I was like, Jeff, I may not know a much about the podcast industry, but I don't think that suits are required. No. The exact opposite. Yeah. Anyway, here we are to please Jeffrey.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Jeffrey. One fan. Yeah. Just one. Just one. We take criticism very seriously. Clearly. We love to incorporate.
Starting point is 00:02:14 We do. Which brings us to today's episode. Work. Work. Work. You better work a bit. Work, work, work, work, work. Working women.
Starting point is 00:02:24 So I like to play the part. Yes. We all three are working women. So I don't. Believe it or not. I don't want to be. I'm just kidding. I do appreciate my job.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I was unemployed for a full, a full year. Morgan's boss is watching. Really? Do you guys ever feel kind of like a superhero where you like change by day and night? You go into the work world and you're all professionals serious and then you come into the podcast and you're just, yeah. Right now, I don't, I see no difference.
Starting point is 00:02:54 The suit changes everything. There's actually a lot of research though about dressing like actually changing your mindset. And if you do a Superman pose for like five minutes before you have a big test and interview, you're like more likely to do well. That was, that was Jeff's logic. That is exactly what Jeff was trying to say.
Starting point is 00:03:13 But I was like, no, you don't understand podcast. People don't dress like that. That's, it's, if anything, it's more uncomfortable to watch. Yeah. You know? Yeah. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:26 It is. It truly is. So we'll see how this goes. Yeah. I know the three of us too. We're all talkers. So I feel like a golden retriever already because I keep like, who's got the ball?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Who's got the ball? Looking back and forth. Yeah. Like I'm going to break my neck. I don't want the middle spot because she, she has to hold the mic, which means she can't use her hands. She's a big hand talker. Big hand talker.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I don't know if you guys. So this is like handcuffs. It's like not chill. If you haven't tuned into the YouTube's yet or like the videos, please just quickly watch this one because we look ridiculous. And then just know how miserable I am with my crisscross applesauce with my hands like holding a cinder block. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It is really heavy. Okay. I'm going to do a super zoom on that. Yeah, please. Crotch shot. It's hot. It's hot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Two hot takes today though. It's not two hot takes. Three bitches. Oh, whoa. Three piping hot takes. You just blew my mind. Yeah. This isn't the first time the channels had three, but I know,
Starting point is 00:04:39 but I didn't realize that it needed to be reworked. The whole title, the whole show is, is kaput at this point. Yeah. Yep. Okay. The whole thing away. Well, Blazer's coming off. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Let's do it. Blazer's off. And welcome back to another episode of two hot takes. Ten trick three. Temporarily three today. I'm your host Morgan. I'm Alejandra. And I'm Lauren.
Starting point is 00:05:23 The three of us have been friends for quite some time. Alejandra and Lauren actually went to high school together. Eden Prairie, Minnesota. Woo. Glory days. Go Eagles. Lauren and I met in college. And I actually met Alejandra for the first time in college as well.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But she was moving to California, like it's right as I was meeting her. And I just remember being like, you're going to love LA. I remember I was like, what? How do you know? Wait, when did you guys meet? I don't remember that. I thought you met once we moved out here. My apartment.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Was it your apartment? I was going to say somebody's apartment. Some random. Some random. Random girl. But at the time you were. I was kind of random girl. To me.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Not to the world. But yeah, we, I think I was there with Sarah Nelson. Yeah. It was my Sarah Nelson days. Yeah. And so I was at your apartment and I was moving. I was moving like, I think within weeks, honestly. And that was one of my last rows.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And so you were like, you're going to love LA. I have like family out there. My dad lives out there. Yeah. Like, and it's one of those things where she was saying, you know, I'll come out, we'll go out. It'll be fun. And you're like, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Sure. It'll never happen. But yeah. And then sure enough, you moved out here. I actually come out. And then I was at in college when both of them moved out, Lauren and Morgan. And they came out and it's funny more. Lauren, I think you always say like, you didn't think I'd actually hang out with you guys.
Starting point is 00:06:45 No, because me and Morgan had just graduated college and Alejandra was in her senior year in a sorority in Los Angeles. So I just figured she had her own thing going on. And me and Morgan, we're going to move out here and we're going to be like these old farts. Yeah. And Alejandra, no, she welcomed us in. We were college girls in LA pretending to be. We went to all of the college bars that everyone went to and just extended our college experience
Starting point is 00:07:10 out in LA. James Beach. Yeah. Yeah. We were some places in Playa. Now we're all working women with careers. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Which is why we're here to talk about work as fun as it is. We just can't get away from it. We just love to talk about it. Love to talk about it. If you are on YouTube, you're probably going to see this and be like, wow, these girls are switching outfits a shit ton. We did change. We recorded over two days.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Just an FYI. I have no idea how I'm going to edit this in the order. So this actually might go first and then you'll see the blazers and whatever. Wow. We have the blazers. We have the blazers. So we're all over the place with close this episode. So we did two days of recording and that is why you see a lot of outfits if you're watching
Starting point is 00:07:57 on YouTube. We're starting off today with listener right ends. Okay. So for this one. Am I the asshole? For me, 22 female ending in engagement and four year relationship because my fiance, 24 male slept with his little sister's best friend. This is a write-in?
Starting point is 00:08:18 Yeah. Fuck that. Yeah, it's not happy. Tell me more. Yeah. My fiance and I had a big fight because he was stressed out about starting a new job and he took out the frustration on me. Well, we made up, but I found out shortly after he admitted to me while he was drunk.
Starting point is 00:08:39 He had had sex with his little sister's best friend who is also a teen mom and multiple times the night of the fight we had. We were not broken up either at this point. We just had a fight. So I end things, but he made me feel like it was all my fault for the fight and for ending things. And I still love him, but I just can't forgive that he cheated. So am I the asshole?
Starting point is 00:09:02 No. No. I wouldn't be able to forgive that ever. No. He cheated and then kind of low key gaslighted her. Gaslighted her up. Is it gaslighted or gaslit? Both.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Gaslit her. Either. Gaslit her. I was just wondering. He's a gaslighter. Gaslighter. But he gaslit her. There we go.
Starting point is 00:09:20 There it is. He gaslit her and I'm not cool with that. No. No, what? You're not the asshole. He cheated. Yeah. He dug his own grave.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah. It's odd. It's odd to see this chick. Yeah. It's not like she's always around. It's not like she's always around. Yeah. Although we are little sisters best friends.
Starting point is 00:09:37 She's like a Jordan Woods here. Like, is the sister still friends with this chick? I'm sure. Especially now, because they're broken up, it doesn't really matter. I would not want to be friends with someone that did that. It's a principle. Yeah. Yeah, this would make me sick.
Starting point is 00:09:51 The thing is, is that your relationship, if you decided to forgive him, you're going to have to deal with that throughout your entire relationship. It's just not going to go away. Like, yes, it'll get better, but that cuts really deep, especially he slept with her. You guys weren't even broken up. And it was his little sister's best friend, a best friend who likely is still going to be in the picture. Slash.
Starting point is 00:10:16 The little sister is also probably going to give you PTSD when you see her. Yeah. The whole thing is just like, I think it's too far gone, in my opinion. Yeah. I get finding a new job is super stressful. I literally feel like I'm going to barf on the first day of my new job. It's working new job anxieties real. But yeah, if this is like the reason he cheated, how is he going to handle any other fight
Starting point is 00:10:40 or issue in their relationship going forward? Like you have like some frustrations come out over you starting a new job and you go and cheat with someone having kids and frustrations there. I don't know you guys. I like can't relate to this. Are you that nervous? I'm excited to start a new job. Oh God, I get so nervous.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I feel like the stress kicks in once you've started the job and now the expectations, it's like a first day of school. I feel like I'm pretty neutral. Also terrible for me. You're nervous but not start a fight with my boyfriend and cheat on him nervous. You know? That's, yeah. I don't think like, I don't know why, maybe I don't know what kind of job it is.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah. I was wondering. But it's like, if this is really the straw that broke the camel's back for you to cheat. Bro. I'm not saying it's a non stressful event, but like it's not like, oh my gosh, I'm going into brain surgery tomorrow and it's going to handle it. It's not. Or like losing.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I've seen a Reddit post where someone lost their twin brother and he was, he didn't cheat on her, but he was grieving so much and she didn't know how to help and she, and it was just. He completely shut down. Yeah. He completely shut down. And so it's like that, those are different situations where people aren't in the right mind, but like to start a new job.
Starting point is 00:11:49 That just is so ridiculous. Yeah. It's not an excuse. No, this one's weird. I mean, nothing's an excuse to cheat. If you have a relationship where you agree not to cheat, then nothing's an excuse ever. Yeah. I also wonder too, like there had to be some sort of like lead up to them having sex, like,
Starting point is 00:12:05 oh, my little sister's been best friend. She's always been around like maybe, but it also could have just been a drunk night and then she was there. Yeah. But like, fuck her for no fuck her, like, you know, he's engaged and has been with his fiance for four years. I forgot they were engaged. Engaged.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Four years too. Engaged. So shitty. Wow. Oh. Yeah, I don't like this one. But I mean, again, if she's willing to overlook it, everyone is different. If she thinks she can handle it and get over it, then sure, never say never, but it sounds
Starting point is 00:12:37 like she's, sounds like she's on our page where it's just too far gone. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Last listener right in. I think my coworker wants to replace me. I thought you were going to say, fuck me. She's not where I saw that going.
Starting point is 00:12:57 She wants to fuck somebody. My coworker wants to replace me. Let's hear about that. Me and my husband are approaching our four year anniversary and we have a little girl. So the beginning of the year, I started a new job at my job. I made friends with a coworker because she was dating one of our family friends. After a few months, they broke up. So to show her we weren't just friends because she was dating a mutual friend.
Starting point is 00:13:19 We invited her over a few times. Nothing seemed great until one specific event happened, setting a weird pace for our relationship. One night we had a party and offered for her to stay the night in our guest room. So she wouldn't have to get an Uber home. The same night we invited our new neighbors over to meet them. I'll come back to that. Anyways, everyone was pretty wasted and I got a little too crazy and decided to call it early.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I left her and my husband alone thinking nothing about it. I trust my husband. Well, after a few hours, I woke up to my husband still not in bed. So I went looking for him. I found him laying on our floor in the living room with my coworker on the couch chatting. Something didn't seem right, so I told them they should both go to bed because me and her had to work in the morning. Next morning my husband made breakfast for all of us and I was feeling hungover so I
Starting point is 00:14:15 was sluggish. She was asking me questions about my husband and what he does around the house. After breakfast, I had put my daughter on the floor to walk around and play. She started to get into a junk drawer and before I could get up, my coworker had grabbed her. She was acting very motherly to my child. But I thought it was because she has a son and was trying to lend a helping hand. A few days passed and at work, she would talk to me about that night and would talk about
Starting point is 00:14:41 my husband like they were lifelong friends. I would find things like, quote, oh, you know how he can be, or that's just him for you. Ew. Just very weird things for someone who just met him. I later went to a nail salon with my new neighbor who pointed out that night she had noticed my coworker flirting with my husband and being too close. Wait, that night?
Starting point is 00:15:07 So this is the only time they've ever met? And the person at the nail salon was there? I'm confused. Yeah. A grill out or some sort of little party gathering. Yeah. So the neighbor noticed that the friend and the husband, like the friend was being flirty and too touchy or too close, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:15:26 After hearing that, I told everything to my husband. He agreed that was weird, but he hadn't noticed anything that night, but believed me and said he would distance himself from her. I invited her over a few more times. Distance her like he, they've only met once. Yeah. What? So confused.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Do they text? No mention of texting. Okay. Um, no mention of other interaction so far. Okay. Sorry, go on. Like maybe he distanced himself. Future tense.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Got it. Like I'll make sure. I invited her over a few more times without my husband there to see if it was just her personality to be that friendly. We had great conversations about life and all, but whenever my husband was brought into the topic, she would act different again, like she knew him. I invited her again to a small kickback with friends. My husband being too busy with his friends for me to worry about her.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Another friend noticed as well that she would rush to my daughter before me. If my daughter cried, she'd be right there holding her and comforting her. I could barely take a step before she'd pass me to get to my daughter first. I was borderline disturbed. One part of me thought she was just helping, but another part felt something different. The last visit we had was when I asked if she'd watched my daughter for an hour. I had an emergency and I couldn't find anyone other than her. She agreed and when I got back, everything was normal.
Starting point is 00:16:48 We had another great chat about just everything going on at work and our lives when she mentioned a dream she had. She said she dreamt of her dream man. What she described to me was basically my husband. I politely sort of kicked her out and told my husband about it. He finds everything strange as well, but agrees with me. He doesn't know what it means. It's a fine line she's dancing on between flirting and being friendly.
Starting point is 00:17:16 She tells me a lot at work that I have the perfect family and the prettiest little girl and how she wishes she had someone like my husband. I don't know what to do. Stop being friends with her? Yes. Yeah. I think that when you feel that in your gut, you should probably follow that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:36 For sure. I am a big believer. Trust your gut. If you feel something is off with someone, you're probably right. My gut has never failed me. It's absolutely insane. I can feel things from a mile away. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I don't even have to be there for these things. I can feel this going on. My spidey senses are very in tune with people and their character. Same. It's not even their character. It's their behavior. Okay. I'm a pattern recognizer and I can pick up on things before people tell me things.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I see things coming. It's very weird. It's almost like a hypersensitivity to the way I notice when people start to omit things. I notice when people start to act a certain way that isn't consistent with their previous behavior. I don't know. I feel things in my gut. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I'm a huge proponent for listen to your gut. It's very clear that this woman, your coworker, has some type of fascination with your family, whether it's your husband, your family dynamic in general, your daughter. Something as weird as going on. I think that's somebody that you should keep at the furthest distance from your family. If you want to be done, don't ever let her watch your daughter ever again. If it's that big of an emergency, just take your daughter or you got to reschedule whatever. Don't bring her over to your house.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Don't even talk to her at work if it's not work related. In my opinion, don't ever talk about your husband. If she talks about your husband, just be like, I'd rather focus on work things. I'm sorry. I'm really busy right now. I'm going to have to get back to you on that. Or just confront it. I'm uncomfortable with talking about my husband.
Starting point is 00:19:24 We're talking about work. My husband has nothing to do with our job. Keep it very professional. Just to rewind to, I would be really annoyed if my husband was laying on the floor and this girl was laying on the couch and they were just talking that out at night. Weird. No one else is around and they're just having this late night heart to heart. I'd be like, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:45 What's that about? That's just not appropriate. No. What is that about? Why? You just met this woman. How do you feel the need to spend hours out in a living room late at night drunk with her?
Starting point is 00:20:02 You should be in bed with your wife at that point. It's just weird. I'd be pissed at that point. I'd be mad at my husband too. I'd be like, don't. Yeah. That's going. Don't make me uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Also, even if his intentions were so pure, it's like you're giving her the wrong idea. Yeah, exactly. True. Don't do that. She's obviously perceiving it in a different way. Like, oh, I had a dream about my dream guy and basically I wish I had someone like your husband. It's either she's trying to make her feel uncomfortable or she has no awareness.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah. You know what I mean? It's almost like the dream thing. I had a dream and my dream man in my dream was like, Jennifer Justin, basically. I would probably not bring that dream up to you. I don't want to make them feel uncomfortable. You don't need to share it. Or think that I want their mans.
Starting point is 00:20:51 You know what I mean? It's one of those dreams you just don't share. You just bury. I had this dream that this guy, 5'11", exactly, measured him with a tape measure and everything. And he's this music producer. He's a minute from the trend plant in LA. Dream man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 It would be weird. Man. And he's like, are you kidding? Well, I wonder too, just with the way that she's kind of seeking out her daughter and like trying to insert herself in a motherly role to this little girl. I almost wonder if, like she didn't mention her being married, having a boyfriend, recent breakup, so single mom. So I wonder if she's almost like, wow, he's a great dad.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I want that for my little boy and trying to swoop in. And I have seen something similar on Reddit and I don't really remember the full context, but it was something along those lines of like, my friend would always comment, what a great dad my husband was, and they had an affair, but a lot. Yeah. And I'm just like, do you, well, I hate to bring this show up because it's so creepy, but the undoing. I know you've watched it.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Oh yeah. I love that show. I never saw it. It's just making me think. Oh, Morgan, you would love it. I know. Nicole Kidman, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yes. We've talked about this on the show before. Watch it tonight. One of the chicks, she basically has like a fascination with the other chick. I guess I don't want to give anything away. Yeah. I'm lost. So, you know, the girl who, she's like follows around to Nicole Kidman.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yes. Yeah. And she's just kind of like obsessed with her. Yeah. She's obsessed with her. And it's, I feel like you need to say that this is a spoiler alert, but like it's because she's banging her husband. And there's so many shows like this.
Starting point is 00:22:32 It's so creepy to me, but she like follows her around. She's in the locker room naked and she's like, touch my boots. Oh yeah. It's so weird. Yeah. That was so weird. And this lady befriends her husband's mistress. Oh.
Starting point is 00:22:47 But the husband doesn't know this is her new friend and the girl doesn't know that that's her husband. But who befriended her? The husband's wife befriended his, his mistress, knowingly, knowingly. She like found out they were having sex and then met her and was just like, oh, let's be friends and like started hanging out with her. It's so weird. I wish there was a study on this because that's, I've heard of that happening a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:13 There has to be some psychology behind, I don't know, feeling like you're closer to that person. The man. I could see that. I don't know. I don't know what it is, but I've seen the first hand two times now in my own life. So there's got to be something to it. Well, and we've had stories where guys do it too.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah. Where the guy, like the one story where the girl was like, my boyfriend is obsessed with my ex and sought out the ex-boyfriend to become friends with him and like was obsessed with him, wanted to be this ex-boyfriend. That reddit story. I remember. Could it be me? I like shit on all my, all my exes are just kidding, if you're red sex and you're listening
Starting point is 00:23:52 to this. No, but I mean, Justin's ex, Justin's ex is certifiably shitty. Like what she did was fucking terrible. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't really have an opinion on Jeff's ex, like zero opinion, honestly. Yeah. I think that's pretty healthy.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, that's healthy. And I actually don't really have an opinion. Yeah. She just like, seems like she wants to like, I don't know, I'm just not going to say it. She does. I don't know, no. No, she, she just, I've sent you some of her stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Her very political views. She's, she's a. She's super like. She's a little out there. Yeah. She's out there. So yeah. I took a drink so I wouldn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, yeah. But it's, I think it's healthy to not look into exes. Yeah. He came back with a robe. I still don't know. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:24:40 What are you doing? Jerry? My dad keeps like interrupting our episode. I want to take a picture of him. And oh yeah. Oh my God. He ran away. Aw.
Starting point is 00:24:51 But he's wearing. Now I know how to make him shoe. He's wearing a bathrobe and he's been just pure chaos while we've been trying to record this. Yeah. Yeah. I can tell. He does.
Starting point is 00:25:03 He wants to spot. He misses it. Every single day he asks me, when am I coming back on? Aw. Put him back on. I have an episode planned. Put him in the game. But it's another pretty gross one and I think after the basic hygiene we need to give everyone
Starting point is 00:25:13 a break. Mm-hmm. It's, it's pretty nasty. Oh damn. So he'll be back. I'll be back. I was amazed by the hygiene one. Like people were like, I couldn't finish it.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I was gagging. I was like, this is great. Yeah. I mean I was grossed out but like I also work in a hospital so like I've had people poop on me. Yeah. Same. So.
Starting point is 00:25:33 In sales. I just have people shit all over me. All day every day. All day. Someone, someone peed on my leg the other day. Oh damn. Yeah. Work every day.
Starting point is 00:25:42 It's a, it's a dirty job. Yeah. Well that's that for the listener stories. I think cut that friend off. No, no more friends. No more. Yeah. Don't just keep her as a co-worker.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Yeah. It's like, and if she's not this like a long-term best friend, if, if she was someone who was, you went way back with her. Yeah. Maybe have a discussion. Makes me feel a little uncomfortable. Right. And then you guys can get into it and see how it goes from there but it sounds like she's
Starting point is 00:26:04 not someone that's super important and not really, I wouldn't really, it's not really worth having a conversation. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I could see that. For sure. Sounds like you should follow your gut.
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Starting point is 00:27:02 Where does this person work? Yeah. I'm taking notes. I am a high schooler with a weekend job at a coffee shop. My coworkers who work weekends are James, the owner's son, who also goes to my school and he's a shift manager, but not a real formal thing. He's a friendly guy. Danielle, a college student who sometimes works weekends too.
Starting point is 00:27:24 So sometimes customers will come in and just be angry about such little stuff, like literally blow up about nothing. I don't know if they're in a bad mood already and looking for someone to take it out on or what, but it's a lot. Like how sad so you have to be a grown-ass man taking your anger out on high school kids and college kids. So James and I were joking about having a little fun with them and hopefully getting them off our backs.
Starting point is 00:27:49 So one day I was at work and some guy was having a temper tantrum about how we don't make the coffee hot enough, which I couldn't do a thing about because I gave it to him right out of the machine. So coffee shop, restaurant, service, industry. So James comes in and was like, sir, is there a problem here? And the guy started ranting at him too. So he was just like, OP, this is unacceptable. You're fired.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Oh my gosh. So wait, this is his friend or is this the owner? Yeah, the friend. This is the owner. Like the owner's son. The owner's son. Who's the manager? Yeah, but they're friends.
Starting point is 00:28:27 So they were like joking about like, we got to do something about this. I love this. I love this. I started acting real sad like, no, please don't fire me. My family needs the money. I need this job. These are actors. And he played up being a hard ass telling me to take off my apron and leave.
Starting point is 00:28:45 The angry guy started to backtrack like, it isn't that big of a problem. You don't need to fire her over it. I didn't mean it. And James was like, no, we pride ourselves on the best customer service. Oh my gosh. Of course, after all the drama, I still had my job. We were just acting and we've done it a couple of times. Whenever a customer will lose their temper at Danielle or I, James will storm in and
Starting point is 00:29:06 fire us. And almost every time the person who had come in angry will apologize and say that they didn't mean it. It's kind of satisfying and that they didn't mean it. So brilliant. I love it. So brilliant. I spend so many times in my high school jobs that like, I exactly had that same feeling.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I'm like, you're a grown ass adult. I'm just doing my job and you're freaking out about absolutely nothing. What is going on in your life that you think that it's okay to push around this innocent little 15 year old worker. And that would have been the best move. I love it. I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:42 So she goes, it's kind of satisfying making people realize their actions might actually have consequences. Yeah. I was telling my friends from school about this and a few of them thought it was a mean prank to let someone go away thinking they'd gotten someone who desperately needs the money fired. No, they'll direct their attitude. Maybe they'll change and won't do it again.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yes. Yeah. But I do understand how the whole, the second layer of being like, my family needs this, like that's a bit much. I love it. True. Honestly though, I little overkill, but also like, I'm not even a big fan of pranks. Like I actually generally, I don't like pranks.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yeah. Remember the prank episode? Oh, I hate them. Yeah. But this one, I'm like, okay, I think it's a little bit of karma. Like, like don't be so quick to like fucking flip out at people and be a Karen like this. Like, I think this is the best way to handle future Karens because it's like, Karens aren't easily like diffused and negated from their actions.
Starting point is 00:30:41 So it's like, if they literally got such instant results, like, okay, fine, you're fired, leave. It'd be like, I have nothing else to bitch about. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know, I really, I was down for this one. No, I love it. I love it too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Top comment. Not the asshole. That's a perfect way of dealing with hostile customers. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen some really ridiculous reaction or people that will come in and so I just, I love, I love this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 This is so funny. Like working as a flight attendant, the things people would get mad about me for like, and I'm just like, I'm sorry, I have absolutely no control over anything that's happening. Like, I'm just as much being terrorized by this as you are because I have to sit on this plane even longer now and deal with you. Yeah. Well, and I've noticed myself too, sometimes when I'm really frustrated with a company or a brand or whatever, and I'm calling through all these different numbers to get to customer
Starting point is 00:31:34 service and I'm on hold for so long. And by the time I finally get to the customer service, they're like, we can't do this. And I noticed my tone and my body language and I'm just getting pissed off. Yeah. Don't be mean to them. Yeah. Because they're just doing their job. Like they didn't keep you on hold purposely for the past 45 minutes, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:54 So it's like, it's easy to forget sometimes that it's not, I don't know that you, yeah. Sometimes they're not doing their job though. Like sometimes, no, sometimes they're not. They're not. I get mad or short tempered when I, somebody is so clearly inept. Yeah. Very low tolerance for ineptness and I'm trying to work on that because yeah, sometimes it's really not their fault, but when people are just very blatantly being lazy and not
Starting point is 00:32:24 exploring the routes that they can, that's where I get frustrated, especially if I've been on hold for a long time. So especially if this is my 10th time calling in this week, that's where I get really frustrated. I think on the flip side of that, so I recently had to go to Lululemon to return. We saw your tweets. We know what happened, but you know, wait, okay, maybe I've had two different experiences. What one of you guys? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 He's tweeted about it. Yeah. What Lululemon. Would they not take your line pants back because they got pills? I always try to like work the system there. Yeah. No, it was a pair of like shitty pants that I have the same pair of pants and four different, like four different ones.
Starting point is 00:33:07 They're the all the right places, crop and pant. They're the most incredible leggings in the world. No free promo. No free promo. Amazing. But the one pair I had were like totally defective and like stretched out. The retention wasn't there. So I brought it into a store and the girl was like, these are like eight years old.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And I'm like, no, they're not. Oh, they weren't? No, they weren't even that old. And she's like, well, I can't take them back. So I fucking get on the chat and I'm like, your associate was so rude, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and they took it back. So totally separate experience. So I go to Lululemon again a couple of weeks ago and I ordered this pair of leggings online
Starting point is 00:33:42 and I had a gift card, but I owed like a difference of like $36. They were like some fucking reflective stupid ass ones that were more money. And so I pay the extra money on like Apple pay or like PayPal or something like that, where it was like, you don't actually have a card number. It just shows up as like Apple pay or PayPal. And the girl at the register was like, actually, I can't return that on. I can't return that money from you. So like all of your money is going to go on a gift card.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And I'm like, I used to work out Lululemon. I know how this works, sweetie. Like you can actually return the total amount onto any card. It does not even have to be the same card. The registers don't work like that. They just fuck with you. So then if you don't have that card, they're like, oh, well, we have to give you a gift card because then technically the money doesn't leave the company.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yeah. And they're fucking con artists. And I said that I was like, honestly, like, can you just put it on this card? Like multiple times. And I was like, I really don't want that much on a gift card. Like this is my money and I need it now. Oh, how about when you went to Saint Laurent? Yes, your story was triggering me.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, Saint Laurent, YSL, as the kids call it these days, they do not. First of all, their receipts as like returns are accepted within 30 days. However, it is not explicitly stated that the return is actually going to be in the store in credit. Not a refund. Oh my God, what is this forever? 21. Yeah. And forever 21 updated their policy.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Right. Did they? Yeah, you can now get your money back from them. And these are like two, three, this is a luxury designer. Yeah. Yes. Tacky. Yes, very much.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Tacky. Tacky. So I go in there like an idiot. It gets worse. Oh, yeah. So so I buy a purse and I bring it home and I don't love it. So I take it back and I get store credit or I end up exchanging it for another. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And then I'm just gonna make this long story short. I needed to go back in because I was returning something at this point. I know their policy. I know I'm only going to get credit. I have to take the L. So I go into St. Laurent. I purposely go.
Starting point is 00:35:42 This is going to be such an LA problem, but you'll get it if you live in LA. I live in like, you know, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills area. So the one that's the closest to us. Rodeo Drive. Rodeo Drive. Yeah. But everyone knows where J.O. Drive is at zoo. So if I can avoid it, I will.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So I go to the Beverly Center and I purposely I'm running so many errands this day. It's like my errand day. Everyone knows an LA errand day takes like seven hours to do like three things. So I run to the Beverly Center. It's so bad. It's the worst. Don't even get me started. I go to the Beverly Center.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I'm so happy. It's my last errand and I go in there and I'm like, Hey, I already know you're only going to do customer service. I just need to return this. Can I get a gift card? And she's like, see, I can't because we're out of gift cards. And I was like, that's fine. Excuse me, what?
Starting point is 00:36:31 I know that's on you and you need to return it. Exactly. I have a customer profile with you. So just go ahead and make a note, credit the account. I owe you whatever you got to do, credit my account and we'll figure it out later when you're you have gift cards when you're more capable of handling your job. Because right? Because it's like, if you think that is illegal, it's got to be something with
Starting point is 00:36:48 the better business bureau or whatever. Yeah. If you can't offer me money dollars back and you're saying my only option is in store credit and you can't offer me the vehicle that will give me that credit. That seems illegal. Yeah. So I'm like, what do you mean? You know, you put it on my account.
Starting point is 00:37:03 She's like, I have to give you a physical gift card. Rodeo has tons. And I'm like, I purposely didn't go to Rodeo. I came here and she was like, you know, I'm just trying to help. And, you know, I felt really bad because I was very short tempered with her. And I was like, is this, I think I said, like, are you coals? Like, why can't you put this like I said, it's 2021 and you're living in like 2010. Yeah, give me an e gift card, write me an IOU, put it on my account.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Come on, you're sophisticated. And then, or at this point, I'm here. Give me the fucking money. Write it on a post-it note and have your manager sign it and date it. I don't know what we got to do, but we got to do something. Because why is this my problem now? Yeah, it's not. And like you just said, the customers there, this is a first world problem.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You're spending good money to shop there. So the fact that they make it so difficult for you. That's that's it. That is the exact emotion I had with Lou Lemon. It's like, it's not even about the how much money you spend. It's about the lack of customer service and here we are, like a customer service like worker and it's like, we've all had customer service jobs. Yeah, a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Well, and all are still in customer service jobs. They all are helps us have like a more level understanding because we've had those asshole and customers that treat treat you horribly just because they had a bad day. Yeah. And then we've also on the flip side had instances where it's so frustrating where it feels like they're just not trying. They just don't care.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Right. They just like, there's things they could do to help you out, but they just won't. Right. It's so frustrating. And in that moment, I actually, that girl was really sweet. Shout out if for some reason she's listening. She was super sweet. She redeemed herself. She was amazing, but she can't help the policy.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I mean, if you really say coals, that's like, that's like mean girls. I try coals. I think I said coals are JC Fanny. That's why I did compare them to a department store because I'm like, that's just isn't right. Yeah. But that's what the thing is, is that coals and JC Fanny would never do that.
Starting point is 00:38:59 But yeah, never do that to you. Yeah, way better. Yeah, that would have been. I would have been absolutely. You can't give me a gift card. Frickin have them ship you one right now. I'll wait. I'll wait.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I'll wait. I'd rather sit here and wait and go grab like a coffee than drive to Rodeo. Yeah. I think that's how unbearable Rodeo can be. And you have to pay for parking at both places. So at that point, they should have like the company should have paid for an Uber. Like to be like, here, go deliver these to our other store or a courier service or
Starting point is 00:39:31 whatever. Yeah, I just don't understand why the manager can't come out and say, I'm going to write a little like, no, I'm going to sign and date it. I'm certifying that as soon as we get the gift cards in stock, we're going to call you or we're going to mail you one. Yeah, I'd be sketched out by that though. I wouldn't trust it. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:45 So now I have a gift card with a good amount of money on. Oh my God. I guard it like it's cash, but I actually don't know where it is at this very moment. I think it's in my room somewhere that I have to use that at some points. If anyone sees a cute purse there, send it my way on that note. Wow, you got to go. You got to go find that gift card. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Okay. Well, I'm trying to give you a crazy one. I mean, work is work is just more Zen than a lot of, a lot of our other topics, you know, and I think people needed a little, a little chill break. I didn't. I've, I've endured it. I've endured your, your chill stories for too long. I need something crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Okay. Well, I want you to knock my socks off. You're not wearing any of my slippers. Okay. So this next one, I had a hard time deciding if I wanted to keep it for the work episode or the upcoming body issues. But here we go. Yeah, prep yourselves.
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Starting point is 00:41:13 Member FDIC equal housing lender. Am I the asshole for calling my coworker chunky? Probably after, unless it's a little, a bulldog, a baby bulldog. I'm going to go with yes. So here we go. Am I the asshole for calling my coworker chunky after she repeatedly calls me slim and makes references to my weight after I asked her multiple times not to.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I have a female coworker who repeatedly calls me out regarding my weight. I'm five, nine, 115 pounds and very thin. She is very overweight. All the time she makes comments about my weight. She doesn't call me by my name. She calls me slim and I even heard her say one time, go ask toothpick and she has said stuff like, you need some meat on your bones and you need to eat. I have only worked there eight days.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I have asked her very nicely to stop yesterday. I asked her to stop calling me slim again. And she basically said it's her mouth and she can say what she wants. Wow. Today when she said morning slim, I replied, this is, this is chaos. Okay. You wanted crazy. I did.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Today when she said morning slim, I replied morning chunky. And she got upset and actually started crying. I'm sorry. Don't. Dish it out. You can't take the heat in my mouth. Yeah. Well deserved.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Stay out of the kitchen. If you can't take the heat in that and she was being nice. She could have said something else like, oh, like whale or just something. The mean, like she said chunky. That's cute. Good morning obese bitch. Like, yeah, she could have like really been really, really, really degrading. And I think like there's.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Good morning. Obese bitch. I didn't think it was that funny, but fuck. I just, you said it so. Just picturing the setting like that. Yeah. Casual walking with a briefcase. And you overhearing.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Crying. I'm crying. So what else happened? And she got really upset and started crying. Oh, just like me right now. Everybody here at work, only six of us total is saying I'm wrong. And I should apologize because being called fat is different than being called skinny because being called skinny is a compliment.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I said, as long as she calls me slim, I will call her chunky. And now I'm the bad person. Am I the asshole? If I don't apologize, the owner slash manager has completely ignored the situation saying it's a quote high school issue and we should figure it out. Yeah. I mean, I think I honestly think it's fair. She asked her not to call her something.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Like if everyone has a right, that's exactly why we have pronouns. Everyone has a right to be like, Hey, I prefer to go by they then. And so it's just like, for this girl to say, you're really trying to address you're really, you're really, Lauren is campaigning right now. You were really grasping at straws with that. Really? I want you to watch my reaction. I'm like biting my tongue, trying not to laugh.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Just get it out, Lauren. Oh my God. Okay. I was just did this to yourself. I don't even give me that. I'm just aspirated. Okay. I felt, I felt so guilty because in one of the podcast episodes, I used the
Starting point is 00:45:00 incorrect pronouns when we were talking about a non-binary, pregnant friend. And I felt so bad afterwards. And so I told Morgan, I was like, I want to address it because I don't want people to think I did it on purpose. Um, it was just completely went over my head. Every single time Morgan said they, them, I thought she was talking about the couple. I just, it was an accident. So I was like, I want to address it.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And Morgan and all hunter are like, just do it. If it comes naturally. And she bit. So I just really grasped strong to see that you made that work. So you could sneak that in there. Okay. But regardless, everyone has a right to be asked to be referred to as something. Well, we're just like, don't call me a derogatory.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah, I don't characterize me by my weight. Well, and she says, Hey, like, I don't like when you call me slim. Just like if you were to be like, I don't like when you call me my old nickname. You know, I like my, I prefer my name. You have every right to expect that people refer to you by what you want to be. It's your own to, it's your name. Like no one wants to, like you said, like no one wants to be called something. They don't want to be called, right?
Starting point is 00:46:04 This is like, this is very harmful. Like what if she had a medical condition that is the reason why she can't gain weight or what if she had an eating disorder and this was very triggering. Absolutely. Or like I was, I was a very, very thin child. So my nickname ironically was lucky thought, which means skinny in Spanish, like skinny little one. And my family to this day, you might hear my family members call me flaka,
Starting point is 00:46:25 which is skinny and to a lot of, I mean, it's loving. I was never offended by it, but I was a really skinny child in high school. I was actually self-conscious of how skinny my legs were. I look back and I laugh and I'm like, oh well, I die for those legs. But back then I was very, very self-conscious about my legs. So if someone called me slim or skinny, that would actually hurt myself esteem and it's hard for people to understand that skinny shaming is still body shaming. Completely agree.
Starting point is 00:46:51 It is just as bad as fat shaming. It's definitely a hot, it's been a hot topic in, in, you know, recent years with the more body positive movement. And then on the other side, you know, girls coming forward and being like, it's still shaming when you're telling me I'm skinny or it's shaming. Like blah, blah, blah. Like it, it goes both ways. Absolutely agree.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And, you know, no one should be subjected to. Harmful, hurtful comments about who they are. And you actually said something to me once and. Alejandra. And you were like, you should never say something to someone or criticize them. If it's something that they can't fix within 10 seconds and so commented on people's body, their weight, something that is so, yeah, it's, it's who they are and who knows what they're battling with or dealing with.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It's just like, don't do it. Right. And the woman here being referred to as like chunky, like the woman who's calling her slim, this is so, I mean, if this person, this is so clearly an insecurity. I have the same thing happened to me where someone was like, oh, you're a size two or four, whatever, like, they kind of like gross, weird at it. Yeah. And it would make me feel bad because I'm like, well, first of all.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Clothing sizes also like are so, they're off. They're so off in every brand. Nothing's consistent. Right. The person who asked me like was a bigger size, but what, what does that matter? You asked me my size and then scoffed at it. That doesn't make me feel good. And I know in her head, she was thinking, well, oh, you little thing kind of, but it
Starting point is 00:48:21 doesn't, you know, it's the same. Can you imagine if I asked her her size and she said like a 12 or. I said, yeah. Why, what's the difference? You're shaming somebody for the size that they are. I completely agree. And the thing about this woman too is like, she told her not to, it's not like she was calling her slim and it was playful.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And then she just came out and said, Hey, Chunky, no, she said, please don't call me that. And she said, you don't, you're not in charge of what comes out of my mouth. It's so rude and disrespectful. It's her mouth and she can say whatever she wants. And she said, I'm going to continue to call you chunky as long as you call me slim. Yeah. So it's not like she's like, I'm just going to call this, you this forever.
Starting point is 00:48:58 She's just making a point. Like if I ask you not to do something, if it doesn't make me feel good about myself, my body, my representation, my name, then. Respect that. Otherwise I will do the same to you until you stop. Right. Exactly. I think it's only, it's only fair.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Like we said, if you can't stand the heat, stare the kitchen. Exactly. And also like with her saying that it's like, yeah, you can say whatever you want, but doesn't mean that the other person's going to put up with it or like you're free from the consequences. Right. If you can't, well, what's the saying? If you mess with the bull, you're going to get the horns and she fucked with
Starting point is 00:49:32 the wrong person. Yeah. And I guess for me, is she the asshole? That question is kind of twofold for me because yes, you kind of are calling somebody chunky makes you a little bit of an asshole, but is it you're doing it? To make a point, to make a point. Yeah. So I don't think this person is a bad person.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I don't think this person has bad intentions. However, calling somebody chunky is still kind of an asshole move. Yeah, I mean, because you don't need to, like, you don't need to match somebody's disrespect, right? You don't have to fight fire. I know the bigger person thing is just ignore them. When they call you skinny slim, whatever, you don't even, I, I started just not responding.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah. So somebody called me, you just don't even look at them. And then sooner or later they get frustrated because to get your attention, they have to work very hard. So then they'll just revert back to the name that you actually have, hopefully. In this case, the bigger person thing to do is called, uh, that's called gray rocking. Is it?
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah. So it's typically done with like narcissists, like people that like are trying to get a rise out of you. And so you just gray rock, like you ignore them, you become very boring. So then when they stop getting, like, when they stop getting a reaction, they're like, I'm not entertained by this person. Yeah, I can't get a rise out of them. So they just stop.
Starting point is 00:50:42 They just stop. And so eventually she's going to be more working than what it's worth. So that would be the bigger person I'm going to do is just be like, you know what, I'm confident in my body. Maybe you're not, but you know that this person calling you a name is wrong. And you're not going to do it back because you don't like how it feels. So you're just going to ignore this person. Maybe to go to HR, that's an HR issue.
Starting point is 00:51:01 And just say this person is calling me, that is, you're not supposed to comment on other people's like appearance that way. And so that's the bigger person thing to do. However, what she's doing, I don't think is super bad. No, it's not the grown up thing to do, but. And it's so obvious to you that the reason that this person kept calling her slim, skinny toothpick was because she was insecure about herself. And it makes it very clear by the moment she called her chunky that she started
Starting point is 00:51:29 crying, it just shows that that came from an insecure place. Definitely. So it's like, yeah, she, she was trying to make her feel bad about being skinny to make herself feel better, herself feel better about being a little bit, um, you know, overweight, whatever she is. Yeah. There is an edit, uh, for more info, we don't have HR. There's only six of us working here.
Starting point is 00:51:51 It's a cupcake shop. We are all regular employees. I went to the owner before I called her chunky and I asked him to talk to her because I felt like she was harassing me. That's when he said we can handle it ourselves. That's why I called her chunky. I told her to stop calling me slim and I didn't like it. And she continued to do it.
Starting point is 00:52:10 She didn't stop doing it after I asked her multiple times and I didn't know what to do besides what she was doing to me. She brought up my weight. I brought up hers. Yep. Not the asshole. No. Top comment, uh, not the asshole by a long shot.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Just because she apparently defines herself by her appearance does not give her the right to define you by yours. Objectification sucks. Yeah. Period. Also. That owner is a terrible boss. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Yeah. It's like a mom and pop. Yeah. Little cupcake shop. No HR just goes to show that they don't really care about like the welfare of their employees. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:47 They could get sued. Yeah. Real easily. Yeah. Well, I mean, any, he still could get sued by this girl. If she quit, she could still sue him. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, creating like a hostile work.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah. Someone goes, it's an asshole thing to do, but sometimes you need to be an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of my logic. Yeah. This next one's interesting too. Yep.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I feel like this wouldn't be so hard to see if OP was getting called big rack. D cups. Jugs. Yeah. You can't reduce anyone to an obvious physical characteristic. Yeah. And if it's playful, like the nickname you had and you're okay with it. Cool.
Starting point is 00:53:21 If they're not okay with it. Yeah, I've never been to my family and been like, I don't like that. Right. It was, it's endearing. Yeah. When I was in Spanish class, I picked Chapara for my nickname. I've never heard of that name. It means short girl.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Chapara. Chapara. Huh. You're in like, you're like, I'll always speak fluent Spanish. She's like, in what language? Really? I mean, there's, there's dialects and different slang for everything in Spanish. But that's funny.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I just looked it up. Chapara means dwarf. But cause like we say chato, like chata, like to say someone's like short, like it's chata. Yeah. Um, I don't know where yet. Chapara means Chaparo means short person. Chapara is the feminine version used for women.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. Chapara. That's what I went by, but beautiful. Did you pick that knowingly? Yeah. Okay. It's one thing when you subject it to yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:21 It's one thing you need to do. Other people cannot. Exactly. My Spanish name, I think I went with Margarita. If anyone was wondering, a lot of people pick that too. Yeah. Cause people, it was pretty and it's beautiful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And Margaritas, that's one of the first things people say if, if they meet me, it's like, Oh my God, all a hundred is my Spanish name. Like, wow, you picked that. That's a compliment. You do have a really pretty name. Yeah, I, but it's, but it's funny when other people say that because I'm like, I personally went and picked my name, but the fact that you had a choice and picked it, like that's, that's sweet.
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Starting point is 00:55:53 Long story short, I'm a nurse at a hospital and I go to different floors as my job to help out. I have a pretty common name. Think Jessica, Amanda, et cetera. There are several nurses with my name throughout the hospital and sometimes multiple on the same floor. Today I was working on a hall with a new nurse who didn't know me yet. She commented on how it was weird that this floor had three Jessica's on it.
Starting point is 00:56:19 She asked me which one I was. I guess she thought I worked just on that floor and I told her my last name. Then she asked if I knew, quote, Jessica with the nipples that works on float pool. The charge nurse was nearby and I noticed her eyes get kind of big and she looked nervous all of a sudden. I was confused for a minute because I had never heard this description. And as far as I knew, I was only Jessica in float pool. It dawned on me that she was referring to me without knowing I'm apparently
Starting point is 00:56:48 Jessica with the nipples. I mean, that's a good nickname to have. I'm kidding. I didn't see it going that way. How do you get away with that in a hospital? I know. Like even at ADP, no one would do that. No one would nip out.
Starting point is 00:57:01 No one would be like Jessica with the nipples. No, that's, that's actually like sexual harassment. Exactly. Like, I don't know how they got it, how everyone got away with that. It's terrible. Absolutely terrible. I guess this was just a known thing about me because that nurse avoided me like the plague all day and so did everyone else.
Starting point is 00:57:21 The charge nurse tried to make it into a joke with me at lunch and I laughed to hide my embarrassment, but I am mortified. I had noticed my nipples sparingly in the bathroom mirror and thought it was just a rare thing when cold. I guess my nipples show through my sports bras and scrubs on a regular enough basis that has become my secret identifier. I told a friend I was thinking about going to HR about this, but they said it was obviously a harmless identifier that I was never supposed to find out about.
Starting point is 00:57:51 So it should have been no harm, no foul. Wow. You weren't supposed to know. So you shouldn't be offended. Yeah. Foul. Okay. It's like, it's the typical relax literally.
Starting point is 00:58:03 It's the same as quote, Jessica with red hair, etc. Not quite. That's ridiculous. So fucked up. I feel like it is not harmless though, to use an identifier that is so embarrassing and made me the butt of jokes. I think I could be the asshole because I don't know what HR would do and what, if it is too extreme, I don't want anyone fired.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Well, that's probably going to happen because that's sexual harassment. You think that's a fireable offense? Yeah, really? Yeah, yeah. Sexual harassment like that is like not tolerated. I, God, I one time I remember walking into a bar and the bouncer looked down at me and I don't like to wear bras because they're not that comfy and perks of small
Starting point is 00:58:46 boobs and he looks down at me and he goes, Oh, it must be really cold outside while staring at my boobs. And I was just like my jaw dropped. What a creep. That's not the, you can think it, but don't say it. I'm like, go ahead and think it, but to say that out loud, what? Yeah, see, I do think this is kind of, you know, how there's just the free the nipple movement.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah. So in some senses, people are trying to kind of desexualize nipples. Do you see what I'm saying? Yes, but, but in this work setting, it still is inappropriate. So I do think it's worth going to HR for because that's really inappropriate and it is sexualizing your body in a work environment. But at the same time, they could say, Oh, we feel like we're not sexualizing you because, you know, women, you didn't wear the proper uniform.
Starting point is 00:59:31 It's behind her back. Yeah, I agree. So it's like, the fact that it was very, it became a toxic work environment. It was a joke behind her back. Yeah, which everyone is entitled to a healthy work environment. Like I'm pretty sure that's in everyone's employee handbook and like code of conduct. Like if you feel you have a toxic work environment, please talk to your manager, your supervisor, HR, like everyone is entitled to a fair and equal work
Starting point is 00:59:54 environment. And that's like, I can't imagine everyone, you being the butt of everyone's joke. And it's not, it's probably not even that floor too. Think about how big hospitals are. The hospital I work in is in a 400 bed hospital. So there's easily 400 nurses. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:13 So like, basically you're the float. So you work on every floor then. So what if every single floor, you're, you're the hospital wide. Just go with the nibbles. Yeah. No, I definitely think she's not the asshole for going HR. No, I think we agree on that. I like, I don't want to call myself a tattletale because I don't feel like a
Starting point is 01:00:35 tattletale. That word. And I, I, in this situation, I'm like, in my head right now in my advice, I'm like, yes, go to HR. Fuck those people. Like you're a nurse. You, you have literally one of the most valuable jobs, especially look at the past year in this panorama.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Like for sure. And so I'm like, one, I'd find a new job. Fuck them. But then in my head, I'm like, I'd really fuck with them. I'd like, how I'd make them on edge. Like, oh, yeah. Like are you looking at my nipples again today? Might have to go to HR.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Like I would just want to fuck with them. Like make them for you uncomfortable in a work environment. I'm just picturing that. Morgan's like, everyone deserves a safe work environment, but, but I'm also going to torture you and make you think you're going to get fired daily. Well, they fucked with her for how long. It's like, it's fair. We have it.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Roll the tape. I know, but I'm like, they've been so mean to her and roll the tapes. You just want her to stick up for herself. I know. I know. I agree. I mean, she could go, okay. She could go to them and say, hold a meeting with everyone.
Starting point is 01:01:44 No, she, she could just say, Hey, like I've heard about my nickname. Not cool. I don't want to go to HR. But if this doesn't stop, it makes me feel uncomfortable. I think that would be a great step. And you're just being upfront. Well, they are warning that boots a little bit because you warned them. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:58 You know, see, this is the logical response, the healthy response. No. I mean, I see where you're going with it. I just like, oh, I hate lashing out, but it's just like, I just feel for her. Like I'd want to be mean for her and not make her be mean. Yeah. It's like that she had no one else go to bat for her. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Because you would think was like, if any of us were in that hospital, I feel like we would be the champion of that. And yeah, stop. That's not funny. Don't call her that. No, it's so sad. So when I worked at a bar in college, we actually would nickname the owner of the bar, the Eagle.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Um, and he didn't know why because first of all, he was low key kind of evil. And, uh, are Eagles evil? No, no, no, no, no, but, but we just, we needed a code name because we couldn't say his name out loud, but everyone would pass it around. We had walkie talkies too. So we'd be like, the eagle has not. Landed, or the eagle has landed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And so, or like the eagle has nested and everyone just knew what it meant. And just in case, cause we didn't want to have on the walkie talkies and him here, um, and basically it was because he was really, really scary and really, really mean. So that's why we had a code name just cause we, we wanted to notify everyone because they needed to act accordingly when he was everyone needed a fair warning. Yeah. But even as mean as he was, we wouldn't call him mean nicknames.
Starting point is 01:03:15 We called him the eagle. Yeah. Fair enough. So why the hell are they calling Jessica with the nipples? Jessica with the nipples. Exactly. Doesn't you have a last name? Right.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Yeah. They're just all Jessica Johnson. Yeah. Just call her by her last name. Yeah. People are mean sometimes. Yeah. Not the asshole.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yeah. And that's the overall vote on the thread. Top comment. Not the asshole. You need to talk to your boss and HR. This is a form of harassment instead of calling you Jessica with a brown hair or short Jessica or any other innoculous identifier, your colleagues picked a secret sexual one.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yeah. And they know it's wrong too, because they kept it a secret and they are being squirrely about it. Exactly. Yep. Case closed. Yeah. Also HR probably won't pull individual people aside.
Starting point is 01:04:00 They would most likely have a group meeting to go over how this is not acceptable in general. So I would definitely go to HR, which I didn't know that. I honestly thought they'd just like. They might do a seminar on like without identifying people. They might do a workers harassment, kind of like the office episode where they do. I haven't seen the office.
Starting point is 01:04:17 They do an episode on harassment that Michael Scott is like, doesn't know the first thing about anti harassment. So he just like fails, but that's what I'd picture. Yeah. I guess it does make sense because there's, there's too many people involved to at this point, who do you blame? Who's the first one that threw the rock? You probably wouldn't be able to identify them.
Starting point is 01:04:37 It was so awkward at one of my jobs. Um, we had to do a, because people were dressing so recklessly, we had to do what you guys were saying, basically a seminar or educational meeting about dress code, and we went through this whole long thing about dress code and what's appropriate versus what's not. And after that, we did this award ceremony for all these sales achievements. The girl who won the most was wearing the shortest leather skirt and everyone is like, this is so uncomfortable because she had to keep going up to get
Starting point is 01:05:07 her trophies and her awards. And right after it was like, this is wrong. No, wait, what job was this? ADP. Was it? I figured. People were dressing inappropriately. Do I know the person?
Starting point is 01:05:20 No, she was an Orange County girl. Well, hopefully Jessica can get this sorted out onto the next. Am I the asshole for forcefully moving into my boyfriend's gaming room? My boyfriend and I moved in together at the beginning of 2020, i.e. right before the pandemic started. We both have desk jobs, so we've been working from home for over a year now. Initially, both of our desks were set up in the living room and we had to deal with each other's work calls all the time.
Starting point is 01:05:52 It was a nightmare. I asked him if he could move his desk in the spare room, which is where his gaming setup is, but he said that he didn't want to work in the same place. He goes to relax. So I moved my desk into our bedroom instead. Ever since I moved into the bedroom, my boyfriend has become very particular about me being in the living room during work hours. He acts like it's his office.
Starting point is 01:06:19 I ate my lunch in there a few times, but our lunch times are different. And he said that I was distracting him from work. So I started eating lunch in the bedroom instead. I've been doing this for about 10 months now. Last week, I tried to sit down and speak to him about how awful it is to spend 18 hours of my day in one room. He was sympathetic, but also told me he couldn't do anything about it. I asked him again to move into the spare room or at least let me eat lunch
Starting point is 01:06:48 in the living room and he refused to do either. So I asked him if we could maybe swap desks, seeing as I wouldn't have an issue with him eating lunch in the living room while I was working. He literally started laughing at me and told me that I was crazy if I thought that I was guilting him into swapping desks. The next morning, you have words. I have thoughts. I have thoughts.
Starting point is 01:07:15 The next morning, I brought my work laptop into his gaming room and unplugged his entire setup, tower, monitor, speaker, keyboard, everything. Good. I started working from there instead. He was oblivious until his first bathroom break of the morning when he spotted what I had done and started freaking out. He threatened me with legal action. Wow. You're kidding me. What?
Starting point is 01:07:40 What? Who is this man? Oh, move out. I'm sorry. Oh, my God. Get rid of him immediately. Yeah. What? It's he sounds like the little boy who would scream like like girls. Like boys go to Jupiter or like stuff like that. Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider. No. Well, whatever it was, that was against woman.
Starting point is 01:08:01 That's what he sounds like. I only know the boy, the men hating version. I don't remember the other way. Women go to maybe it was women go to Jupiter to get more stupider. Yeah, let's go with that. That's what he sounds like. Men go to Mars to get more cars. Oh, I've never heard that. Yeah, I'm sure it could be twisted in so many ways.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Yeah. Well, he just sounds like such a little child and I'm discussing. We're not even done yet. Oh, OK, let's go. He threatened me with legal action if anything was broken and told me that I was an immature, passive aggressive asshole. Wow. I said that I would be working from there from now on. At the moment, he's not speaking to me. The more I think about it, the more I wonder if maybe it was an immature way
Starting point is 01:08:47 to handle the situation. But I feel like I'm at the end of my rope and I can't keep spending all day in the same room. She's in there nonstop. She works in there. She eats in there. She sleeps in there. So we all have worked from home experiences given this last year.
Starting point is 01:09:06 And when the minute she said she was working from her bedroom, I relate to that because my desk is in my bedroom. You all all of you in your roomies. And I think it's probably a very unhealthy thing. It's out of necessity, not by choice. It's healthy in the sense that because we have roommates, we have decided collectively that our common areas will remain common areas. Yeah, kitchen and living room will remain our living space.
Starting point is 01:09:31 As unfortunate as it is, it's the only fair. And I think it's fair and I think it's good. I'm glad we did it that way. I think our rooms was the best option. However, I know that it is not good to wake up and spend to work in the same area that you sleep in. It's personally affected my sleeping patterns. Oh, yeah, because when do you shut down? Right.
Starting point is 01:09:50 How do you decipher? Exactly. I work longer than I need to now. I also know that I've been trying to work on a sleeping routine and what I've read is that you're supposed to designate the bedroom a sleeping place. It's the only thing you do in the bedroom. You're not supposed to read, sleep and sex. Exactly. I tell this to my patients nonstop.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yeah, Morgan has a full blown podcast set up in her bedroom. Yeah, yeah. But this is out of necessity. Yeah, so it's, you know, obviously it works. But if you have a choice, I would never choose. If I could choose, I would not put my desk in my bedroom. No, everyone would have a spare space. It blurs the line between work and home.
Starting point is 01:10:28 What makes me so upset though is that, OK, so am I understanding this right? Where he has a workspace in the living room, right? Yes. And then she's already taken over to a common area. And then he has a game room. Yes. Yeah. Why wouldn't you make that an office? The fat, the nerve. That's what made me so mad. That's because it's just the audacity, the audacity.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Like, how do you, how is that fair? Does he pay more rent? Is it his house? And even if it is, you're still being a jerk. Right. Like, we are in a pan, pondery play or whatever. Like, fricking, I was going to say that for a ben and word. Take, OK, your game room, that's cute. That's nice, sweet. We are in a fricking hard time.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Yeah, everyone's working from home by no choice of their own. Fucking make your game room, the living room at this point. I don't care. Yeah, yeah. And if he thinks that it makes so much sense that she took for someone to work in there, why can't they switch? Or why can't he work in there and she can take the living room? Yeah, if that's already if that's already his space. Weirdo. It's a freak.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Yeah, a freak. It's fucking so disrespectful. Selfish. Yeah. He's like, he's like, I don't want to center like his own. Like, let's operate under his own logic, right? Which is I don't want to do work in my game room because that's a place I relax. What the fuck do I do in the bedroom? I sleep. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:46 So what's the same logic is why would I want to work in our bedroom where I'm supposed to sleep? How old is this couple? No, ages are mentioned. That is rare. But there is an update. OK, we're really heated. No, and I'm I'm like, I I read this one a little bit,
Starting point is 01:12:05 but I didn't read the update. So I'm just like, I'm just baffled because if someone treated me this way, yeah, and gave me absolutely no choices and said, no, go fuck yourself. I'm I'm the content legal action of that is fucked. It's a game. Yeah, what? Well, I I understand gaming is very important. It's a big leisure hobby.
Starting point is 01:12:24 It sometimes is a career for people. So it's not his career. No, it's not his career. But also when you have a spare bedroom and it's a it's a bonus space for both of you. If it's a two bedroom house, there's two of you there and your couple. It's a bonus space for both of you.
Starting point is 01:12:39 And the fact that one person completely took it over and is now flipping out that she's even in there trying to have some source of like sanity. Yeah, I could never be with I can't believe this. If I if I lived with Brett and we had we had the luxury of a freaking home office, basically a second bedroom, and he tried to deem it like his reading room or I or I tried to deem it
Starting point is 01:13:04 like my podcaster or something like that. We would yoga room. Yeah, whatever. He would be like, no, are you crazy? And similarly, I would be like, are you crazy? This is an office. This has to become an office. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Well, me and Justin, like we've talked about like finding a place like he's ready to not have roommates. I'm ready to not live with my dad at 27. Just kidding. So we've like we've just been like kind of hashing out the idea. Okay, what would that look like? And one bedrooms are honestly, they're more expensive than two bedrooms out here.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Yeah. Two bedrooms are worth it. Yeah. So we're like, let's get a two bedroom. It can be a catch all. It can be an office, a guest bedroom with a pullout couch when we have visitors. And then it can be a podcast space.
Starting point is 01:13:51 So like you have to agree on it. Yeah. Also like I get gaming setups are very complex and like big and whatever, but how much room can it be taken up? If it's a spare bedroom, why can't it be a gaming setup with like another desk for a work from home situation?
Starting point is 01:14:07 Could be a very no one's occupying that throughout the day. Right. Right. How does that make any sense? It's so selfish. So I wonder if it is his house. But even if it is his house, it's so selfish. I know.
Starting point is 01:14:19 I'm just wondering if that's where the entitlement is coming from. Yeah. Like this is my setup. How dare you? Because I could see if for some weird reason, Brett had some room set up in his house and I moved into his house and I went in there kind of made myself at home.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I could see the territorialness. Yeah. Brett wouldn't be that unreasonable, but I can see where of the like initial, like how dare you just come in and rearrange my home. Yeah. But still, it's not okay.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Yeah. There's definitely like any time someone else moves into another person's space, there's a lot of adjustments that need to be made. So I completely see where what you're saying. Yeah. And I agree that could be part of it if it is his space. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Well, I've been talking to Jeff because I think I said this to you, but Jeff just is putting so much money into his house to renovate the entire thing. The house or the condo? His house. The house he lives in. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:06 And I think, you know, that's great. It's his money, whatever he wants to do. But what makes me nervous is that eventually, if we want to move in together, which is what we'd want to do if we continue to date, then right now, are we going to move into this place that you're investing all your money into that has been your home for years?
Starting point is 01:15:24 Or are we going to go somewhere and find our own place? And my concern is if I go into this new place, or the place that he's in right now, will it be your place and I'm just living in it? Or will it be our home? And so, and that... That's very fair too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:38 And it's a real concern. And he always is just like, no, if you move in, when you move in, whatever we decide to do, it's your home, just as much as it is mine. And that's great. But like once it actually comes to moving in, who knows what could come out.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Yeah. Let me have a friend who moved in with another friend, and she moved into her existing apartment, and it wasn't the story. It was very territorial. And it's like, this is my space, my rules. So sometimes it's easier said than done. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:11 And I think like we all get very comfortable in our spaces, and you guys have lived together for six years, and it works because you guys are all on the same page. You're comfortable with each other's routines, habits, lifestyle, communication style. Like if you weren't, you wouldn't have lived together this long. And so I think in stuff like that, where it's like everyone's comfortable in their home,
Starting point is 01:16:34 and when you invite someone else into your home, you're like, wait, I actually like things done this way, this way, and this way. But that's not reality. Right. That's why when Lauren was talking about moving out, because eventually we're not going to live together forever. What?
Starting point is 01:16:45 Yeah. What do you mean what? You spearhead of the campaign. I mean, no, no, no. And so long story short, you know, Sarah and I were like, what would we do? And we decided, I mean, obviously everything can change,
Starting point is 01:16:56 but we didn't like the idea of having. Having another roommate. Yeah, because. It's a lot of changes to dynamic. A lot of potential for. It could cause issues. Right. We're just, you know, we've worked from home.
Starting point is 01:17:08 With work from home. Definitely. We've lived together for years. So it would, that person would feel like they're coming into our space. We've lived in that apartment for almost four years. Yeah. So I mean, it anyway, I guess we're assuming we don't know
Starting point is 01:17:20 if this is his place. Let's find out. We're trying to give him the benefit that it's out. Let's find out. Benefit of the. That's good. So she goes. Edit number one.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Sorry, just to clarify, when I asked my boyfriend to move his desk into his gaming room, I meant his work set up, not his physical desk. The spare room would be too small for his physical desk. What's the difference? Which. So you're okay with him having a desk in the living room.
Starting point is 01:17:44 So he would just move his work stuff into the game room. Probably the computer monitor. Like the monitor. But not the physical desk. Yeah. So it does sound like it's too small. The desk is in the living room right now. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:54 By this. By reading this. Yeah. Edit number two. Hi everyone. I'm just about to go to bed for the night. So I wanted to give this post a quick update. I'm overwhelmed by all the messages of support.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Thank you so much to everyone who commented. A few people have expressed concern over my safety. I promise I'm okay. I actually left the apartment tonight to give my boyfriend some space and I'm staying at my brother's place. I'll probably go back tomorrow evening, but I am considering ending the relationship.
Starting point is 01:18:23 My brother thinks that I should and he said that I can stay with him if I want to move out. Thank you all again for your feedback and support. So what did you decide? I honestly think she should absolutely end the relationship. I think that's a telltale sign of how this is going to go. Yeah. Moving forward.
Starting point is 01:18:39 What is that going to look like? Like he sounds like a child. Sounds very selfish. Yeah. He sounds like little rascals when they have the he, she, man, woman-hater club. Oh my god. I never saw that.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Like you should have written that. I like little kid references. But that's what he sounds like to me. He just sounds like such a little brat. And like a woman-hater. Two, it also, it could very likely be his house because of the fact that she's like, if I want to move out, I can go with my brother.
Starting point is 01:19:07 It's like, I feel like if it was anything else and there was another dynamic, like Elise, I feel like she would be like, I'm not out of my lease until blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, which missing context. But he could still be the leaseholder and she could be paying half or so. True, also true.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Comments. It's like a quote of what she said. And it goes, he literally started laughing at me and told me I was crazy if I thought I was guilting him into swampy, swampy, into swapping dust. He threatened me with legal action if anything was broken and told me I was an immature, passive aggressive asshole. And the person comments, red flag, red flag, red flag, red flag.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Literally, yeah. Isn't how normal adults act. This is not a healthy way to treat one's partner. Not the asshole, obviously. Especially someone who loves you. Like you're not siblings. I'm siblings can get out of his pocket with each other. But like, you know.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Yeah, if I was living with my brother or something, I could, even my brother would be way better about this, but I could see him being a little bit more stubborn or something. But someone who loves you and you're in a relationship with to treat you like that, Brett would never talk to me like that. Even if I like disassembled this entire workout room to accommodate it.
Starting point is 01:20:17 You're a passive aggressive asshole. You're immature. He would just be like, oh, Hunter, why didn't we talk about this? Like this is not, I don't feel comfortable with this, but let's talk about it. He wouldn't like gaslight me, you know? Even my brother, like he would never even know.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Even if he was like, well, it's my game room. Like he would be nice about it and have conversations and would probably give, you know what I mean? Even a brother and sister relationship, I just think this is so ridiculous. Like my brother would be way better. Yeah, exactly. Like she's like some stranger who just came in and.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Yeah, it's very, very, very bizarre to me because I look at a relationship as a partnership. I say that a lot. And I think if you're not happy for your partner's success or you're threatened by your partner's success, or you don't want for them to succeed, at the end of the day, this is her work. This is her livelihood.
Starting point is 01:21:02 This is her career, her success. So if you're literally pigeonholing her in a corner and making it so difficult for her to one work, have a livelihood, have a sense of income, and then you're also making her home life and her mental health depreciate and be affected. Right. She's not trying to like hang out.
Starting point is 01:21:26 She's trying to work. She's trying to work and just live. Right. Live her life. Yeah. He got the best stick. He drew the big stick or whatever the fucking saying is. Like he got the living room.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Straw. Straw. He drew the biggest straw. And so it's like somehow he got lucky and she compromised and she went in the bedroom and he stayed in the living room. It's like that didn't need to be her to do, but she did it. So it's like what?
Starting point is 01:21:54 She compromised and he wasn't willing to. Yeah. Now all my coworkers that I work with that are always in their living room when I'm talking to them. Luxury. No, I'm like, is this you? What do you mean? Oh, oh.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Is this post about you? Oh. Yeah. I'm thinking about all of them. Do you like game room? Yeah, literally. But for most of my coworkers that I work with when I talk to them, you can see like the back
Starting point is 01:22:16 of their living rooms. Right. So now everyone's suspicious. Everyone's suspect. He's just kidding. So she actually, OP actually responds to this. Thank you for responding. I'm seeing a lot of comments saying the same thing
Starting point is 01:22:30 about his behavior. Someone else goes, seriously, are you happy with this guy? He doesn't seem to care much for your feelings or comfort. Putting himself first every time. Is this how you want to live your life? Not the asshole. And OP comments back, honestly, the responses to this post have given me a lot to think about.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Lockdown is ending pretty soon in our country. Maybe it's time to think about moving out. Yeah. Yeah. It absolutely is. Having an entire room for his gaming setup is a luxury. Yeah. He should not have when you're being confined to one
Starting point is 01:23:05 room of the house the whole day. He shares the entire apartment with you, not just one out of three bedrooms. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of comments. It's messed up.
Starting point is 01:23:19 This one though, threatening to sue her while they're dating implies that he'd threaten divorce whenever he's mad they're married. Facts. Or threaten to take the kids in divorce. And wow, I didn't even think about that. But that's a big threat. I'm going to sue you.
Starting point is 01:23:34 What? Breaking my gaming supplies. I don't think unplugging a computer is going to break it. But even if she did, let's just say she pulled it too hard and it bent the cord. You're going to sue her. You're going to sue her. Your girlfriend?
Starting point is 01:23:45 Yeah. Versus just like make her pay for the damage or something. Right, right. Psycho. Rational. Yeah. Yeah. Dude sucks.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Moving right along, getting over this one. I hope she dumped him. Me too. Yeah. If you're a business owner, the way you pay your vendors may be limiting your financial performance. Paying by check costs your business time, money, and resources.
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Starting point is 01:24:36 for expecting my boyfriend to replace all my socks, the exact ones as I had before? This might seem silly. I, 24 female, like wearing cheerful socks since my work uniform is all white, currently working as a phlebotomist. It usually cheers up the patients too. A what?
Starting point is 01:24:55 A what? A phlebotomist. What is a phlebotomist? They're the people that take your blood. My worst enemy. Maybe if yours had a vampire. So a vampire. It's a villain in my story.
Starting point is 01:25:09 The vampire taking my blood. Alejandra's got white coat syndrome. Oh my gosh. Taking blood, I have to take the day off work. I have to take like prescribed muscle relaxers. Like I trauma as an, as an understatement, but okay. Okay. I've spent a few years collecting strange socks.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Ones with sushi, pizza, corgis, cats. Oh my god. No, no, she says Nick Cage. I've spent a few years collecting strange socks. Ones with sushi, pizza, corgis, cats, Nick Cage. Wow. Did you just find your best friend? I think I did.
Starting point is 01:25:50 If you're listening and not watching, I'm drinking tea out of a Nick Cage mug. I love him. I think I had about 30 pairs. My boyfriend, 29 male, has always hated them and thinks they're childish. So I agreed to only wear them to work and never on dates around his friends and family. I thought that was fair. On boxing day, his parents came over for coffee and gifts. Just the four of us, which is allowed where I live.
Starting point is 01:26:16 And keeping a solid three meters apart. I accidentally put on a pair of childish socks. And his mother made a comment about it. I explained that I wear them to work to cheer people up. And she liked that. My boyfriend didn't. The next day, yeah. The next day, all my socks were gone and the drawer was filled with plain black socks.
Starting point is 01:26:39 I asked my boyfriend and he told me he threw them away and purchased some more appropriate socks. So I won't embarrass him in front of his parents again. What's his problem? What the hell? What? Are you that threatened by socks? What?
Starting point is 01:26:59 I love when people wear like awesome socks. At work, when guys will wear boring things and they come up and cross their legs and I would see like some like Pokemon socks. It's called peacocking. It was the coolest thing ever. Yeah. It's peacocking with your socks. I obviously love it.
Starting point is 01:27:12 I think it's amazing. When you have to dress very uniform or boring or plain or strict and then you can like have this pop of like your identity and your personality. Maybe he was jealous of Nick Cage. He probably was. Who isn't? I told him that's insane. They were mine and he had no right to throw them away.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Not to mention that I spent some time collecting them. So I made a list of the ones I remembered I had and told him that I expect the same ones as a replacement. He told me that's completely unreasonable and that it would take a lot of time, effort, money for him to find those specific pairs. I haven't changed my mind yet. They cost me a lot of time and effort to find two.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I think he's being controlling. He thinks extremely. He thinks I'm being unreasonable and demanding. Am I the asshole? No. No. This guy's a jerk. No, I'm honestly the most confident about this.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Not the asshole. Yeah. What? It's disgusting. He threw away your property. He has no right. He doesn't get to tell you what you were there. That's so rude.
Starting point is 01:28:14 And that's a part of her. That's her personality. He's diluting her personality. You know what she reminds me of though? I picture her being Jess from New Girl. Jessica Day. Jess is very spiritual. If you did that to Jess from New Girl, that is some heartless shit.
Starting point is 01:28:31 It would be heartbreaking for her. Yeah. I've never seen the show, but I will believe you. Yeah. We'll watch it tonight. She's just very spunky, wears spunky clothes. I mean, I'm the same way. I love my funky socks.
Starting point is 01:28:42 People get me gifts. When they get me gifts, they buy weird socks. Jordan got me a pair of British flag socks from London. I'm pretty sure you both have gotten me socks. Really? Yeah. Love that. Doesn't ring a bell, but I...
Starting point is 01:28:56 Yeah. Both of us are like... Wow, you really care about my presence. No, I forget. No, but like... I just get you so many. There you go. So I just don't...
Starting point is 01:29:06 I relate to it in that way. And I also am like, you should never, ever, ever, ever purposefully damage or destroy someone's property or throwing them away. This makes me sad. Me too. I would have been like, you need to go outside in the dumpster or wherever the fuck you put them and go get them back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Well, I wouldn't want them anymore, but go replace them. I mean, if they're in a bag. Oh, yeah. If they're in a bag, they're saying... It doesn't sound like you took care of them. What a dick. That makes me really sad. So mean.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Like you didn't have a conversation before to address it. Well, he thought he was by telling her to not wear them in... And his mom thought it was cool. Non-work settings. Yeah, he must be very threatened. He must have a very low self-esteem or... Or extremely type A. I honestly feel like he's like embarrassed.
Starting point is 01:29:52 And just needed it to all be like matching or something. Yeah, or like maybe it's deeper than that. And he's embarrassed about part of who she is. And this is part of that. It's manifesting in this way. It's manifesting in this way. My boyfriend and I, we don't always see eye to eye on fashion. Sometimes I'll wear things and Brett will just be like,
Starting point is 01:30:09 really? I'm like, yeah. But I have learned to stand firm in what I like. And that's okay. Brett, he's not being mean. He's just honest. He's like, that's not my favorite. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:20 But if that makes you happy, great. And I would be very sad if let's say I had a collection of like kind of spunky shoes or jewelry that I got to wear. Maybe like just with my girls. And I came home and Brett had thrown that away. I, it would actually make me really sad. Yeah. It's so hurtful.
Starting point is 01:30:38 That's a part of who she is. It's her identity. And he's basically saying, fuck that. It would definitely, it sounds extreme, but it would definitely make me question the relationship. Same. That's what I'm getting at. It would feel, it would be hard for me to look past it
Starting point is 01:30:50 because I would think like, that's so hurtful. You were so easily able to just throw away something that I care about. Joy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's, it's a big red flag, big red flag. Big red flag.
Starting point is 01:31:03 He doesn't respect you. He doesn't respect your personal property. Do they live together? It sounds like it. It sounds like it. Otherwise, you know, how would you have that access? Yeah. Maybe he just did it.
Starting point is 01:31:13 I don't know. He would have hated me because like up until recently, I just finally went through and got rid of all of my socks that I'd like holes in them and that were like mismatched. She's like, I always wear mismatched socks. I'm like, whatever. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:26 So she goes, I think I might be an asshole for asking for the exact same pairs. I know that'll take a lot of effort to find. He shouldn't have thrown them away then. Also his comment that he says, he told me that's completely unreasonable and that would take a lot of time, effort and money. Then you shouldn't have done it. Well, guess what? It took her a lot of time, effort and money to build that collection.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Yeah. And you took the time, effort to throw them away. So. Yeah. She gives another update and says, thanks everyone for replying. I've realized that this might not be a normal fight. And I'm evaluating the relationship. Good.
Starting point is 01:32:00 No other updates beyond that. She comments a couple of times on it. Someone asked her where she got the Nick Cage socks. She unfortunately. Important data. I know. I was like, she did not reply. Is this me?
Starting point is 01:32:14 She did. But she's like, I got them for a birthday present. Damn. She's like somebody else where the Nick Cage. It was Morgan. Yeah. Some user. He has her name.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Morgan. I have the best picture of you wearing your Nick Cage shirt and looking at Alejandro's boyfriend, Brett, and just making the craziest face. Because I don't know what you guys were discussing, but I'm going to send the picture over to you and you need to post it because it's iconic. The caption is, you don't like Nick Cage?
Starting point is 01:32:42 Yeah. Yeah. Or it's like, what do you mean? You don't know who Nick Cage is. Yeah, and your face is mortified. Your face is so mortified. I'm very offended by people not liking him. But how many times have you seen National Treasure?
Starting point is 01:32:55 Easily 300 at this point. What? Yeah. Yeah. 300. Where'd it go? Easily. I watched it every day once for a year.
Starting point is 01:33:03 So 365 at least. Yeah. There's not a movie in this world. It's my bedtime movie. Like whenever I would get tired or I'm stressed, I'm just like, let me just put on National Treasure and just rock out to Nick Cage. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Like I don't think you watched every single minute of the movie that many times, but you've definitely played it. You don't know like 80% of the lyrics by heart. Lyrics. The lines. At least Nick. It's a sing-along. But do you want to know something really unique about me?
Starting point is 01:33:33 What? There is not one single song that I've memorized completely. I can't memorize music. Interesting. I can't. Does Justin like appalled? Has that given him pause? No, he like wasn't.
Starting point is 01:33:45 He was like, oh, that's cool. I'm like, wait, what? Yeah, I just can't memorize music no matter how much I like the song, no matter how much I listen to it. I cannot remember the words and I constantly mess them up and like switch them. Well, I wish I had that talent because I don't even know how much storage in my brain is living rent-free.
Starting point is 01:34:03 All the lyrics to every single Little Wayne song. It's probably why you forget everything else. Probably because the storage is full and it's being occupied by all Little Wayne song lyrics. Well, and it's that Backyardians new album. Backyardigans. Oh, Backyardigans. Backyardigans.
Starting point is 01:34:16 What'd you call them? Backyardians. Example A. Backyardigans. If you haven't listened into the thick of it. We are castaways. Those songs slap. Ahoy there, ahoy.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Yeah, she comments a couple other times. Someone goes, oh my god, divorce him now. Oh, they're married? Oh, they're married. And she goes, luckily we're not married. Yeah. And she goes, I mean. Dodge the sock bullet.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Seriously. She goes, I mean, I've tried talking to him. He doesn't think he did anything wrong or that he should fix it. If he's reacting like that about throwing away stealing my personal things that mean a lot to me, I don't have a lot of hope for it to work out. I agree.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Yeah. All right. Bye, Mr. Sock Guy. And fuck you. Sock thief. Sock thief. There's other stories that are eerily similar to this one, though, about like this guy who like his girlfriend
Starting point is 01:35:11 collected jars and she liked making her like fancy little drinks and jars and it made her feel good like sparkling water with fruit in it. And like she'd do mint leaves and just like make her soft like these really cute drinks. And this was like something that made her super, super happy. And it annoyed the shit out of him. And he threw away all of her jars. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:32 And then there was this other guy who his wife or girlfriend was really, really into making salad dressing like organic home crafted salad dressing. And he was like, I'm getting really tired of her making all this dressing. It just sits in our fridge. So he threw it all away. You have to be so like angry.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Yeah. Mad at the world. Yeah. To take someone's passion project and just throw it away. Just shit on it like that. Especially who's it? Who's it hurting? That is the best fucking question that has been asked about this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Yeah. Who the fuck is it hurting? Who's it hurting? No one. You. Are you buying the salad jars? Are you buying the socks? Even if you are, fuck off.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Also like salad dressing, jars, socks? Socks. Socks. Socks. That you don't even have to really see. They literally are covered by pants half the time. Yeah. You see like.
Starting point is 01:36:25 When she's at work. A blip. I'm literally going to buy so many new fun socks just in spite of this man. If this girl's listening right to us, we will send you some socks. Hell yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. I'll literally.
Starting point is 01:36:36 We should do that. We should start a GoFundMe to get all of her socks back. Oh, I wonder if there is one. She didn't post anything else from the account. No other official updates, so. Wow. I don't know how we'd contact her, but if you're listening, we'll send you some THT socks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Two hot takes. What? It doesn't even change if it's three hot takes. Still THT. I like that. Genius. This was fun. This was fun.
Starting point is 01:37:08 I love having both of you. This actually went surprisingly very well. Yeah, I agree. Very well. We were very. And into the recording, I was like, whoa, we didn't set any ground rules. No, we didn't. We didn't have any terms.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I thought we would need a talking stick. I thought we would need, I thought. I was going to give a talking stick too. Yeah. I thought for sure we were going to have to redo this. Wow. So I'm very, very proud of that outcome. I know.
Starting point is 01:37:32 I like this going forward. I think we could, maybe the title should change. Like. No, no, no. Keep your brand. Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet hot takes. Tweet hot takes, two or three. You just never know what you're going to get.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Never know. Tweet. Wow. Love that. Yeah. Just kidding. So fun fact, we are actually friends in real life. This is not staged.
Starting point is 01:37:50 I know. Someone commented like, when are you all going to do one together? Because. Well, you're clearly correlated, but like, we haven't seen past cross yet. You know what I feel like it is equivalent to? The Disney Channel shows when like Sweet Life is Zack and Cody. The crossovers. Hannah Montana and they all come together.
Starting point is 01:38:11 The crossover episodes. They do that with the Grey's Anatomy and whatever other shitty shows ABC has. I think that's fun. That's what this episode is. Yeah. It's like a new world. It is. Two worlds colliding.
Starting point is 01:38:26 When worlds collide. That's exactly right. Yeah. Well, let's go get some fucking food. Yeah, we need to eat. So hungry. We're so hungry. Thanks for joining us on another episode, you guys.
Starting point is 01:38:36 We hope it was entertaining and until next time. Until next time. See you later. Bye guys. Bye. Bye. What's up, everybody? I'm Mike Wilson with Any Hour Services.
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