Two Hot Takes - 210: Fill Your Cup.. Ft. Rachel Lindsay

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Rachel Lindsay! We needed a good old tea session.. and Rachel came in piping hot from the jump on these stories. From someone whose boyfriend cheated to find "closure" to a woman who's husband apologized for missing her breast cancer surgery with a few roses.. some of these issues felt like it was going to burn us they were so turbulent! How would you have handled these ones if you were OP?! Checkout Rachel's Content: https://www.instagram.com/therachlindsay/?hl=en https://linktr.ee/therachlindsay?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAab7dw8n3MxtLdEzsNCbyldmcVdqLzm9oCCR3sTX9JErLxIHBpOtxgPyDns_aem_kqA8cT_SPnZSqCYrggUzRQ Bonus Content on Patreon including new full length episodes: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes MERCH HERE ! https://shop.twohottakes.com Send us a letter? Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 WRITE IN TO US!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Index: 00:00 -- Start 04:45 -- Story 1 15:32 -- Story 2 25:24 -- Story 3 43:06 -- Story 4 58:22 -- Story 5 1:15:30 -- Story 6 1:32:12 -- Story 7 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Link will be in the description. Otherwise, it's shop.2hotakes.com. Bye. Enjoy the episode. Okay. Here we go. Okay, let's go. I'm so excited to have you.

I'm happy to be here. I'm a little nervous. I know, I know. I have to be honest. What did I get myself into? Because you're so lovely. And I was like, I want a podcast with you. I want to do your thing.

I'm like so excited to be a part of it. I was telling people that I was doing too hot takes and they were like, oh my gosh, you're about to have so much fun. And I'm like, okay, good. I'm more nervous than what I'm going to say. Then you feel like your takes might be a little too hot. Maybe. Maybe.

I could see that. because the theme I have for you today is like getting into the tea. Like give me that piping hot tea. Okay. But I think you are well qualified and I'm so excited to have you, which let me introduce my guest formally for you guys. Hi, welcome back to another episode of Two Hot Takes. I'm your house Morgan. And today I have the amazing, wonderful, beautiful, so fucking smart.

I'm like, I'm blown away by you. I really am. Oh, thank you. This is Rachel Lindsay. Hi, hi guys. Happy to be here. Hopefully live up to that intro. No, well, we met in South, like for South by a couple weeks ago.

And I had like known of you because of The Bachelor and Bachelorette. I mean, first Black woman to be The Bachelorette is iconic. And so I knew of you, but I didn't really know your background and like how accomplished you were and are. But I was like, wait, she's a lawyer and now she's podcasting. and she was the Bachelorette, like, what hasn't this woman done? I feel like I've lived multiple lives, which I feel like should be the goal for everyone. I fully agree.

Yeah. Being able to pivot is something maybe we weren't necessarily taught by the generation before us, but it gives me life to be able to do that, to say I was able to overcome fear and just go after what I wanted. I love a pivot. I know, right? I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of a pivot. And it's like, we put so much pressure on ourselves to be perfect and stick with something and do this. And don't rock the boat.

And it's like, no, rock the boat. I know. Like, do what makes you happy. And you always have the fear in you, right? Like, I still get scared to do certain things or I doubt myself, but then I think about where would I be if I hadn't? And then I'm not afraid of the failure because then there's a story to be told. I look at everything like, that's a story I get to tell. That's a life experience I get to share with someone.

I love that. What's something you're doing right now that you were a little scared of before you started? Well, right now, being single. The podcast, but just being single. Like, you know, I was married, divorced. It's all public. It's all out there. So I'm not like telling anybody else's business. Yeah. But just getting over saying, okay, this is not working. It's not good for both of us. You know, the fear of saying, but I have to hold on to this because I don't know what's. on the other side of it. Yeah. It's terrifying. But it's the best decision I made. And I am equally scared as I am excited. And so, yeah, just being single, being out here. I remember I had anxiety the first time I was in a big event by myself, not by myself, but not married. But I say by myself, I meant without my ring. Because there's like a comfort in having a ring on your finger. And I had, I like went to the bathroom and kind of had not a full panic attack, but just really was scared because I thought people can talk to me and try to date me.

And I haven't had that in seven years. Yeah. And it was really an overwhelming feeling for me. And I just had to kind of like regroup, get with my friends, get my bearings together and just say like, okay. Yeah, just navigating single life out here. I've never been on a dating app. Really? Yeah.

Never done it. I've always met people through friends or The Bachelor. And so now it's just, I don't know, I feel more myself than ever. And I know exactly what it is that I want. But finding that is a whole other journey. Maybe I'll be one of like the Reddit pages you look at. I'll create my own horror stories. It's probably already out there.

I mean, you'd fit in with relationship advice or am I the asshole? Yeah, you'll find your niche if you need it. I'm not the asshole. No. You're good. But it is really like refreshing to hear too that like I think getting over that stunk and cost fallacy and hearing firsthand like it's so relatable. So many people are in it. And we might have a story or two where they're battling with that today and trying to move on and, you know, be better in the future. But I'm excited to get into these. I am too. Okay. Let's dive in. Okay. Okay. This first one, it's coming from our very own to Howtakes subreddit. titled, My Boyfriend Cheated on Me with his ex for closure. Now he's sure that he wants me. I don't know if I can forgive him. So here's the situation. My boyfriend, 26 male, cheated on me, 23 female, with his ex while we were in a long-distance relationship for four months.

His ex was someone he was in a very serious four-year relationship with, but they broke up two years ago. When I confronted him, he told me he met her because he never got closure and wanted to resolve past issues. According to him, he did it for us so that he could fully commit to me without regrets or doubts about what his life would have been like with her. But while having this deep closure conversation, she kissed him. And they ended up sleeping together. He says he felt horrible afterwards, like he couldn't even look at himself in the mirror, because everything he stood for was shattered in that moment. Now, he swears he's 100% sure he wants me and wants to love me more than anything.

He's blocked her and says she's dead to him. And here's the thing. Part of me believes him. I don't think he would ever do it again. But I trusted him with everything, and he still did this, knowing full well what it would do me. That boundary has been crossed. And no matter how much he regrets it, it can't be undone. The worst part is that I can't stop picturing it. The images just appear in my head and it physically hurts. I want to trust him again. I want to believe that we can heal from this, but my friends keep telling

me that if I stay, I'll lose all my self-respect. And the truth is, I've struggled with low self-esteem and low self-love in the past. Ironically, my boyfriend has always encouraged me to love myself to put myself first to prioritize my friends and family. He's been the one pushing me to grow. And I feel like if I leave, I'm not only going to lose him, but I'll have to figure out how to rebuild myself alone. What would you do if you were me? First off, I want to say I'm so sorry that happened to you. Have you been cheated on before? Oh yeah. Yeah. I've been cheated on before more than once. And it's it's tough because regardless of what went down, how it went down, somehow you always not blame yourself, maybe some people do, but you think about what you maybe did

wrong, how you could have contributed to it. Like what did you do that made him want to seek something else out? And the last part of what she said really stuck with me because I feel like that's kind of how she's thinking and it's not, it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them. And there was something that she said about she'll have to do this. alone that really stuck with me. You're 23 years old. And oh gosh, I'm getting to that point in life where I feel like I'm like, I'm like the old bird. I'm like, oh, no. I'm 39 and I'm just thinking at 23. And I'm trying not, I don't want to say cliche things. Like, oh, you have so much life to live and oh, but one of the first things we were talking about at the top of this

podcast was fear. And I remember somebody saying to me when I knew I was. You know, wasn't in a good place in my relationship. And it wasn't cheating, but I'm going to go somewhere with this. And they said to me, do you want to wake up at 45 and feel this exact same way? And I don't know why. It's not even that profound. No, but it is. Hit me because what I knew was at 45, I would be in this exact same place. My gut did. And I say gut to say to this young woman, we as women are given that woman's intuition. That is a real thing, that spirit, that voice that speaks within us. And for you to have to write all of this, you know, you know what you should do. You know how you feel. You know the person that you are. Whatever you struggle, we all struggle with insecurity. You know what to do and you're

looking for somebody to tell you what to do, but you know what you should do. And it's the fear that's holding you back from, you know, stepping outside of your comfort zone and doing something because you're comfortable in the relationship, but you're also not comfortable. in the relationship. Yeah. Because he stepped out on you. I just keep going back to she's so young. I know. There's so much place. I can like I can remember being that age. Like I'm 31 now and it's like I remember when I was in college dating who I thought I would marry and all of a sudden I'm getting broken up with and he's got another girlfriend in Canada that he's had the whole time and like I remember just being like that's my person. What the fuck? Like my mom my mom was giving me terrible advice. My mom was like,

why don't you get on a plane to go to Canada and see if you can fix it? And I'm like, why do I have to fix it? Like, he fucked up. But I do remember just feeling like, well, fuck, like, it's over. Like, the world is ending. Like, it feels so big, so heavy. Yeah. And there's, you don't really see a way forward.

But the thing is, like, I also think at 23, I didn't really know who I was. Right. She's saying, like, he's pushing me to be strong and he's pushing me to prioritize friends and all this stuff. Like, I don't want to build myself alone. but you really don't need him. Like you can do it alone. And not necessarily alone either because you have friends, you have family. Right.

You're going to have all these other experiences that will build you over time. But like I feel like I finally even now at 31, I'm like, okay, I mostly feel like I know who I am. But there's still parts where I'm like, oh, I'm a little too big of a people please. They're like, I got to work on that. Like we never truly stop working on ourselves and growing. Yeah. And if you do stop, then like, in my opinion, that's kind of a part. problem. Yeah. Yeah. So don't be, don't be scared of that. For sure. And to say that you're alone and you don't

want to do it without him, then now your happiness is dependent on him. And you want to get to a place where you mentioned it, you have family, you have friends. Community is so key in moments like this. And not necessarily that you listen to all this advice and you do what they tell you, but just to use them as a support system. And you talked about it being heavy. It is so heavy right now. But you just have to take it day by day. You don't have to figure it out. I think we're both people, you and me, Morgan, that are like, we want to figure everything out and know and want to be 10 steps ahead. And I think that that's innately within us as well as women. But I was reading this book called Leiter, Young Pueblo, which really helped me through the divorce. And it wasn't

even about just relationships. It's just about mindset. And one of the things is, and I would say this to myself as a mantra every day, don't look at the past because it'll hold you back. Because in this situation, you're going to romanticize what he was prior to you finding out this information. Then Young Pueblo says, and I'm paraphrasing, but don't look at the future because it will give you anxiety. You're trying to figure it all out, the if ands what's, what if I do this? You have no idea. You don't know. You can't even predict his, this boyfriend's, you know, actions.

You don't know what he's going to do if he may do it again or not. And he says, Young Pueblo says, every day, stay present and take. things day by day, one day at a time. Every day you get stronger and you figure it out. And that's really all you can do. And you will be shocked if you keep that mindset of how you'll feel different in a week and then a month and then years and then on and on. I'm not saying once a cheater, always a cheater. I do not believe that. I am not saying that people don't change. But in this situation, there is some kind of hold with the ex that she has on her. him. And I don't remember in what context, but you said he told, you know, the one who wrote in,

who wrote the post that he was doing this for them. Was the conversation the closure or was the sex the closure? Because I didn't quite get that. Yeah, I'd love to know which part he found closure. Yeah. Like you had to fuck someone one last time to like, okay, yeah, I do like my girlfriend. Yeah. It's interesting and like, I get having. a conversation, but the minute she leaned in and kissed you, like, you should have got up and left. It didn't need to turn into sex then. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I'm not, I'm not about it. I think you got to move on. Yeah, we won't tell you what to do, but it shouldn't be this hard. No. It shouldn't be this hard. You will have hard days, but this, it shouldn't, this is not how you,

you don't want this to be the foundation of your relationship. No. No. Top comment on this one. give him closure from your potential relationship. Bye. At 23, I definitely would have been vindictive. At 23, I'd definitely be like, let's see how you take it. Or just lie and say you did. How about that if you know you're going to end it?

I would be curious if she said, you know what? I thought about what you said. And it really made me think about my ex. and if I need to finish some things out and see what's there. And so guarantee you it won't be the same reaction. No, uh-uh. We have no comments on this one, no updates.

So we'll have to see if they hear this and let us know what happened. You deserve better. He doesn't deserve you. Okay, this next one. Also coming from our very own Too Hot Take subreddit, five days old, titled, Am I Wrong for Finding the Comments Some People Have Made About My Engagement Ring Insulting? So I just recently got engaged on Valentine's Day this year. I was so happy about it and absolutely loved the ring my fiancé had custom made for me. For a little backstory, I was born in October and I've always loved Opels. In my opinion, I think they are more beautiful than diamonds because each one. one is very unique, especially if they aren't lab grown. My fiancee knows this and handpicked

the most beautiful opal stone for my ring, then had someone custom-make this setting and banned for it based on what he thought suited me. Since getting my ring, I have made posts about it on social media. After showing it to some of my work colleagues, friends, and family members, some have made comments that just don't sit right with me. They would say, quote, I wasn't sure about it, but seeing it in person makes it look a lot better or something similar. Now, I know some people might not like how untraditional my ring is, but I know that even if I didn't personally like someone's engagement ring, I wouldn't tell them that. I'd just say it fits their personality or something like that. Am I wrong for feeling upset?

Okay, wrong isn't the word that I would use. Yeah, you are kind of wrong for feeling upset. First off, when she said the ring is something that, you know, people shouldn't come up to you and say, oh, you know, I didn't really like your ring. It's almost like, forgive me, an ugly baby. You know, you never to say, oh, my gosh. Like, you know the thing on social media where they're showing the older generation parent? Yeah. Like, you never say those things. You say, oh, my gosh, so cute. Or what a doll or an angel. Like, or, you know, those type of things. that's what you should do with the ring.

Yeah. But I think wrong is, I struggle with the word wrong. Okay. For her, because I get you being offended because you just laid out this beautiful story of what your ring meant to you and why it was so special. And all that energy is in this ring and it means so much to you. It's subjective. It's personal. But then someone else looks at it and you want them to have that same joy and they don't.

It's kind of like, who cares? And I don't mean to be harsh. That. But who cares? Who cares? You love it. Yeah, you love it. Are you wearing the ring so you can get compliments from everyone else? Or are you wearing the ring because the love of your life put something beautiful together based on who you are and your experience. And that is a symbol of love. Yeah. That's what it's about. And that's coming from such like a secure place. Like that's such a like, I know what I want. I'm happy. I don't care what anyone else thinks. And I, I love that. And I myself, I'm like, okay, I need. to embrace that more in like some areas in my life. And I do agree because I'm like, you see, cars. I think cars are another one of those things that like you can really be like, that's your personality. Clearly, it's not mine, but like good for you. Like would I drive an orange Kia Soul? No. But am I happy that someone else can afford that? And like, good for them. But it's not my first choice on a car. So I think an engagement ring is something like that.

Like, I've had people, like, I went very classic. I did just... Your ring is beautiful, by the way. This is not an ugly baby comment. It's beautiful. But I went, like, very safe. I went, like, it's an oval stone, hidden halo underneath. It's kind of the ring everyone's doing right now.

And I've even had people still say, like, oh, that's kind of basic. And I'm like, okay, fuck you. As you should. Like, as you, like, it's my ring. Like, I don't care if you like it or not. But in the moment I was kind of like, oh, because you are so excited. So I'm like, you're not wrong for feeling like that, but like move past it as you're saying. Like, fuck them.

And it is a fuck them. I honestly think it's deeper than that. If somebody sits there and shits on your ring. Yeah. There's a bit of haterness going on. They're jealous. There's something. So I say match the energy.

You know, if you can handle this two ways. You can just know that you love your ring and who cares. Or you can say, well, where's the ring on your finger? Or shit on the ring on their finger. Wait, let me see your ring. Yeah. That's right. Oh, that's, you know, it's.

Yeah. I think it's a character flaw for somebody to criticize someone's ring because at the end of the day, I might not know this beautiful story behind it, but I know that the person you love gave you something special. And everyone knows that when the girl gets the ring on the finger, she's equally excited to tell you she's engaged as she is to say and check out the ring. Because it symbolizes something meaningful. Yeah.

So what kind of person do you have to be to say it to their face? Just bitter, bitter, miserable. Yeah. Okay, you want to see it? You're nervous. I'm about to be that person. I honestly, I don't think I knew what an opal was until this. I'm familiar with Opel because I'm familiar with Oval. Sorry, I'm trying to gather my thoughts. It looks like an insect. I'm trying to gather my, like a locus. Like you ever see the beautiful locus? Like where all the colors come together or a cicada, cicada, cicada from Texas. And you see, when you see the dead cicada when it's that time of season and you look at their underbelly, it's all these beautiful colors that actually come together so you can see the beauty. I think I'm getting that right.

Yeah. That's what that opal looks like. Do you see the... I do see the shape now. It's almost, I was envisioning too, like this June bug or like a scarab. Which, like, some cultures, they're very meaningful, those little scarabs and whatever. Yeah. Art differences are what make us, like, things exciting and interesting.

Exactly. Everybody was walking around doing the same things. This is in Stepford Wives, you know what I mean? That, yes. I love that you have something. You know what? what that is, that's a conversation piece. Because people are going to look at that and they're not going to assume it's an engagement ring.

And they're going to ask you about it. And then what do you get to do? You get to tell a beautiful story. I love that. Yeah. I love that. I'm not normally this positive, but I am on this one. You go girl. I like it. I'm in the boat of like to each their own. And I think hearing Stepford wives, that's like the best way to put it. Like if everyone had this round oval engagement ring, Like I got like, where's the uniqueness? Where's the beauty? If it's all the same and just, it's the same. Exactly.

It becomes oatmeal. If everyone has the same, it's just like, it's oatmeal. It's like, it's me. It's me. I hate oatmeal too. I know. I never wanted an engagement ring, so that's probably why I'm so opinionated on this too. Yeah.

But of course, I went on The Bachelor and inside Scoop, when you're around like week five, they're like, so what do you want your engagement ring to look like? Oh, wow. And you haven't thought about it. You're like, I'm trying to navigate all these men. I'm trying to figure out who I have feelings for. What's the next date? I'm exhausted.

How many weeks are there? For me, they've shortened it now. It is short, like six, seven weeks. If that. I was 10 weeks when I did it. Still not a long time. But that three weeks is a huge difference. That's when things start to get really serious.

That's a lot. Yeah. But they ask you and you're like, I have no idea. Because again, I'm the girl who never knew what she wanted a ring to look like. I always wanted a stack of base. hands. So yellow, pink. I love that. Just like, but all paw, they are like a solid gold. That's how I wanted to change up to be. And so I said that and they laughed at me. They were like, this is the batch. So you got to pick a stone. It's, yeah, that's signature ring that everyone has. Yeah.

Yeah. So I picked the pear-shaped diamond. Okay. And they told me to get a halo around it because it'll make it look even bigger. So there is no meaning. There was no meaning behind my ring other than the person I loved gave it to me. Yeah. So that's something. So that's why I'm kind of like, girl, you have a beautiful story to tell. You won. Yeah. That is that is something that some up people didn't get because the decision was kind of made for them. And that does happen. I feel like not everybody gets the option to choose their ring. And that man listened to what you wanted and built something beautiful on it. Does he have a brother, a cousin, or a friend?

Send him Rachel's way. Oh my gosh. No, I agree. And I'm really excited for you. Congratulations on your engagement. And this is all good because there's so many people that write into Reddit and are like, my fiance got me a ring and I hate it. What do I do?

And it's like those people feel like they can't even have conversations with someone. they're supposed to marry. I can't imagine. And explain, hey, I just want to get something a little more me. Yeah. You have a partner that fully curated a ring for you and has everything you wanted and more. So let the comments roll off your back.

Also, what you said is so important, men who are listening and in a serious relationship, please consult with the best friend, a sibling. Find her Pinterest board. Yeah, herself. Yeah. Don't go rogue. Don't go rogue. Oh, there's so many rings out there and like, don't go rogue.

Get what she's going to love or what they're going to love because it's a big thing. And like, for a lot of people, it's the only ring they'll have. Yeah. Okay, moving on to this next one. This is coming from Am I the Asshole. It is 14 days old titled, Am I the Asshole for Refusing to Help My Best Friend with Her Wedding because she didn't make me a bridesmaid. I mean, you're a friend, right?

So maybe assholes too strong of a word. But I think if you're a friend, you're a friend at the end of the day. Okay. You're not a friend because of what they give you or can do for you or a title or anything like that. So if my friend didn't ask me to be a bridesmaid, first off, have you been a bridesmaid? You might want to be saying thank you. She might be a better friend to you than you realize. There's money that has to come out of your pocket.

There are other things you have to plan. You know, in what capacity would be my question? Is she asking you to help? We got the info. Are you ready? There's more. There's more. Okay.

Okay. Let me shut up. My best friend, 24 female, will call her May. And I, 24 female, have been close since middle school. We talked about being in each other's weddings. So when she got engaged last year, I assumed I would be a bridesmaid. She recently asked me to help with the wedding planning. But when she showed me the list for her bridal party, I wasn't on the list.

I asked why, and she got awkward and said that she had to make some choices. The party included her sister, her fiance's sister, and a few newer friends. She's known for only a couple of years. She wanted a small party. I didn't make it a big deal, though. I congratulated her and figured I'd still be a guest. But then she started asking me for a lot of help. Things like dress shopping, DIY decorations, venue hunting, making party favors, etc, etc.

I finally told her, quote, hey, I love you, but I feel weird doing all of this when I'm not even a bridesmaid. She got angry and said she thought I'd still want to be involved because we're best friends. I told her I'd still be at the wedding, but I wasn't going to do all this extra work when she didn't even consider me close enough to be at her bridal party. Now, she and some of our mutual friends are giving me the cold shoulder, saying I'm being petty

and making the wedding about me. But I'm not going to be doing bridesmaid level work if I'm not one. Am I the asshole? No. I don't think so at all. No, she's going to enlist her as a wedding planner for free.

When you're a bridesmaid, some of those things, like planning the Bachelorette and doing DIY decorations, like that comes with the territory. Like that's, but also even like for a bride to expect that of a bridesmaid, maybe I'm like, I think that's kind of rude too. Are you having bridesmaids? I am, but very untraditional. Like they're not standing up there with us.

I'm not making them do shit. Like they can pick their own dress. I just set a color and I'm so chill. Yeah. Like you, you are. You're talking before. I just want to get married. I'm like,

whatever else happens at this point. That should be. It is what it is. I thought I wanted a fucking Ferris wheel. I wanted like crazy. I love this for you. Well, until I found out the price of the Ferris wheel. And I was like, I don't want a Ferris wheel.

Fuck that. The weddings are a lot. But I feel like she was definitely being taken advantage of. She is. Yeah. I didn't have bridesmaids. Okay. Because I could not narrow it down.

So if I can play devil's advocate for a second. Okay. I wonder if, so it sounds like their group of friends who they all grew up with who were close. Yeah. They also don't sound like they're in the wedding. It sounds like the newer friends are. So if I played devil's advocate, maybe this bride wanted bridesmaids. She obviously is going to choose her sister and future sister-in-law.

Yeah. And she probably thought, I can't narrow it down with my old school friends. So maybe I'll just pick some newer friends or coworkers just to even it out. Okay. That could be her logic. She probably should have relayed that information. Yeah. Doesn't sound like she did.

No. That's the only logical thing I can think of. I mean, other than she doesn't really like you the same, but it sounds like from this, from her writing in, that there are other friends that are close that aren't in the wedding either. Sounds like she doesn't know the newer girls. Yeah. So if that is the case and if those friends, I'm speculating a lot here, are helping out too, then I'm not as sensitive to it. Like I kind of might make a snarky comment. Okay.

But I would probably be like, okay, like what do you need? You know, like I'm more than happy to help. Maybe because, again, I don't find as much joy in being a bridesmaid. So I'd be like, thank God. Yeah. If I felt it was too much, I would say, hey, I'll help you with this, this and this. Yeah. But I don't have time for this.

I would push back a little bit. Yeah. But it sounds like the writer really wanted to be a bridesmaid. And that's really the issue. She's not wrong for that. Yeah. She's not at all. If this is something you talked about and you always dreamed of and it was something special

between the two of you and she calls you her best friend, of course you're questioning. Why? Yeah. But it's giving White Lotus friends. Ooh, okay. I haven't watched yet. Okay. We talked about this in Austin.

There is a interesting narrative with the, there's this group of women. There are three women. Is that the political dinner? Yes. Okay. I saw the TikTok clip and I'm like, how relatable is that? Yes. And there's more to it.

dynamic of the friendship group and certain relationships are stronger than others and there's certain group chats going on and it's all under the guise of like we're just worried. We're just concerned. And it highlights female friendships so well that I said this earlier today that that that narrative is going to be something that lives on in TV history because I don't think I've seen it outside of reality TV. It just really brings to life women, lady friendships. Yeah. And that's what I feel like this is giving a little bit of. Yeah. I am so with you. The point you said to where you're like her calling her her best friend, like I think that's what's the most confusing part about this for me, even when confronted. And like, hey, I love you, but like I don't feel like I, you know,

I'm not comfortable doing all of this because I'm not a bridesmaid. And for her to reply back then and say, oh, well, I thought you would because you're my best friend. Yeah. That's confusing. because there's clearly no misunderstanding of like, that's my best friend, but I'm not hers. She's saying you're my best friend. Right. But why are you not a part of the wedding? Even like in some way, like, hey, can you be my attendant or, hey, can you do this?

And it's so odd to me because how many people would you have asked at the time? Oh, we were double digits. There would have been over. What? Remember, I've lived so many lives. Oh, that's true. So, and I was, We were talking 20?

I was, no, no, no. Okay. Like, probably like, it was like around 13 and 14. And he didn't have, he didn't have half that. Okay. He wouldn't have had half of it. Okay. And so for me, it's like, what?

Let's not do it. Yeah. It's just too much. Okay. And I think, like, if you do have that, still ask the people you want, but then just don't have them up there with you. Yeah.

And that's what kind of we're doing, like, his, um, my fiancee's cousin, who's like a sister to him is like going to be in a dress. Like, that matches my bridesmaids. So she's a bridesmaid. But, like, we're not having them stand up there. So it doesn't matter if we're mismatched or uneven. But I just like, it's just sad. And I feel sad for her. Yeah. And I don't think, not the asshole for backing out. We do have a couple comments. And they might provide a little bit more context. So we'll see if it, if it changes anything for us. But I'm, I'm in the boat of not the asshole. Not an asshole. No. And it's weird that everyone else is like now like cold

shouldering her and like other people are getting involved and it's like why are you fighting the fight for her? Why don't you just do what I was doing? You know why? Because I was going to say before you got into the comments that to me vulnerability is key here and it's probably coming off of like I don't want to help you and that's how

it's probably being relayed to the friend groups. Like our friend's getting married and she's so stressed out. We're supposed to be here to help her and I think if the approach was I need to be vulnerable with you. This really hurts my feelings and this is why, which is hard when your emotions are involved to see it that clearly, but that's what it is at the end of the day. Your feelings are hurt. Yeah. And I think if you express that,

then it'll come off in a different way. For sure. And I will say too, we've kind of hinted at it. Like, it's kind of a gift sometimes to not be a bridesmaid. Yeah. Like to be able to just relax, not wake up early to get your hair and makeup done, not, oh my God. It's just you get to be zen. fun, no pressure, and you can still help the bride as if you want and be as involved, but like it's so nice. Especially if it's a destination

wedding. Sorry, I just came from a destination wedding where I was not a bridesmaid. And I was watching the bridesmaids like have to leave the beach early and go get their makeup done and go make sure everything. And I was like, see y'all this evening they were getting ready like 11 in the morning. See, wedding was until 6. It was so beautiful.

I could enjoy a full. day that they couldn't. Yeah. I was a bridesmaid and my friend got married in Chicago so I was coming from L.A. Two hour time different. We had a rehearsal dinner bar crawl like that night so we didn't go to bed until like two or three. Oh wow. And then she wanted us in her hotel room at like seven in the morning. And I was tired at a time change. I didn't get my hair or makeup done until 10. So why did I have to be there three hours early for emotional support and to sip a mimosa? That's what it is. It's a functional support. Exactly.

No. I love you. It's all the part of your duties. I love you, but let's let's let Morgan sleep a little bit more. And then I'll be more fun overall. But being a bridesmaid is a job. You just said it. It's a job.

It's a tough gig. It's a really tough gig. So some comments here. Not the asshole. Your gut is right here, O.P. These are all of the hallmark task of a best friend and bridesmaid. If she's asking for all of this help from you and you alone, I would argue that you should be made of honor.

Info, are her bridesmaids also helping with any of this? I assumed that she was asking you alone, but for clarification, are you the only one of her friends helping with these tasks? O.P. responds and goes, yeah, that's exactly how I felt. From what I know, her bridesmaids are involved in some things. Okay. But she's been relying on me way more than any of them. it's because it's her best friend.

She doesn't know these new girls the same way. Of course she has. She doesn't know them. They're almost props. They're just there. They're almost there at his place filler. You know, I'd be curious if the groomsman has like six or seven people. And so she's like, well, I have to, I can only have six or seven.

Who can I add to fill in? That's what it feels like. She doesn't trust them the same way. She trusts the best friend. But she's not considering the friend's feelings and all of this. I'm so, like, mind fucked. I'm like, yeah, okay, it's nice not being a bridesmaid, but like still then don't ask me for shit. I know.

You're saying I'm your best friend, but like you're not including me. I know. Like, blah. We have a bridesma on our hands. We do have a brideslla. We do. Oh my gosh. I'm trying to see if there's anything else, any tea we need to know with this one.

Most of her bridesmaids do live nearby. So it's not like I was the only local option. Okay. She just seemed to expect me to be her go-to person. Before the wedding stuff, we were pretty close. We didn't hang out constantly, but we talked regularly and made time for each other. That's why this whole situation felt weird. She called me her best friend, but didn't include me yet expecting me to do all this extra work.

I wonder what their relationship was like prior to the wedding. Did they have a relationship where the bride always dependent, dependent on? on this friend to do stuff for her. So she's only just mirroring what their friendship has always been. Always kind of been. What is the movie with Kate Hudson and... Why did I just see a TikTok for it? And Anne Hathaway?

Bride Wars. Bride Wars. I love that movie. So good. But Kate Hudson sounds like the bride. And Anne Hathaway sounds like... I mean, granted, not the same story. They're having weddings on different days.

But she was always dependent. Actually, no. Are you thinking there's something borrowed? Well, I was going to say that too. But something borrowed with Kate Hudson and Jennifer. I can't think of her last name. Oh my gosh. Yes.

Her last name. But yes, she always depended on Jennifer. Yeah. Kate Hudson always plays the same roles, doesn't she? Kate Hudson, man. She likes those bridle-old friend. A difficult friend, yeah. But she took advantage of the friendship they had.

For sure. For different reasons. But I wonder, I would say, you know, to O.P., if she's listening, do you, maybe it's a time to examine the nature of your friendship. Yeah, 100%. And the bride, not to excuse, you are not the asshole. She's not being fair and considerate of you. But I wonder if this has always been your dynamic. Yeah, I think you are spot on with that. It's giving someone who's just kind of the taker in the friendship. And that only goes so far. I know. That only goes so far. Like, that's not sustainable. And the person who's always

giving, we'll finally have a straw that breaks the camel's back and whatever. But like, if you're out there and you're kind of questioning like, God damn, like, am I the taker? Like, I think we all should like, even just on a regular basis be like, am I being a good friend? Like, am I reaching out to my friend? Am I, you know, getting drinks? And it's not always on my terms. And that's something that, like, I've had to consider. Like, I had a friend moved to Orange County. So now she's like two hours away with traffic. And I see her when we record. And it's like, I want to see her more. But like, course. I'm just so busy. And she's so busy. busy and we're so far apart but like I can't always spend time with her in the context of recording

so how do I make sure like I'm still being a good friend and I feel like this person has just really lost sight of it's a two-way street and I'm not always just going to be a taker. Yeah. I would hate for this friendship to end because of the wedding. I think it will. Oh no! I think it will. Keep us posted. I think it will. I would hate that you have all these years and And maybe it was boiling to this point, right? I think so. Gosh, I would hate for you. This is the most beautiful day of your friend and you can't fully enjoy it possibly.

Hopefully they've been in it before because of maybe something that's deeply rooted in your friendship from before. Yeah. I just hate that. I think this is done. Oh, no. This is done. Well, hopefully, but she might lose her whole friend group. Luckily, it does sound like this is just like a childhood friend and like there's other people in her life.

I'm thinking so. But what if got the friend group to stop talking to her? She might lose everybody. Good riddins for those weirdos. Oh, I can't wait for you to watch White Lewis. Good riddins. I can't.

We do have a bit more context that there's only four bridesmaids total. Her sister-in-law two newer friends. Which also four is pretty small. And two of them are like kind of obligatory. That's a big word for a little. But like sister, like, that's a shoe in.

Sister-in-law, that's like a courtesy invite for a lot of people. Like you got to include siblings. So two, like those two could be her day-to-day, most recent, most relevant friends. Placeholders.

Yeah. That's what I think they are. It's not like she's a circle of friends that she's more connected with. But someone did ask, did you even get an invite to the wedding yet? And O.P. did. So she at least is invited to the wedding.

I didn't even know that that was an option that she might not be invited to the wedding. Can you imagine? Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. Like some people are just unhinged Bridezilla's entitled. Oh, no. Then they're the asshole. Oh, 100%. I still think the brides an asshole. You can't expect someone to do all of this work. Sure. Otherwise, like, you better be paying her as a planner. Sure. Sounds like she's probably always been one. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But moving along, I do hope we get an update eventually for this. I know. I'm locked in. How do you do this? You get so, I'm so locked into some of these stories. I know. I need to know. It's like a TV show. What's happening next week? Who's going to give us updates? Yeah. And some of this just disappears into the abyss. I don't know how you do this. They never come back. I don't know how you do it. I get really invested sometimes. Like I get really invested and attached and I send them messages. Like, yeah. I, I, I feel I get scared for them. I'm like, if they really needed it, they could send me a pin and I'd come with a U-Ha, get some of them out. Like, I do get. You need a. You need a. You need a. You. I just start another, like, a subreddit called The Abyss and bring back the stories of, like, what's the update? So I have an update episode on my radar. I'm going to call it the Abyss.

Do it. There we go. There we go. But moving on to this next one. These chairs are like, they're so comfy, but yet so uncomfortable at the same time. I'm like, I never know how to like position myself. But okay, this next one. It's coming from AIT-A-H, which. which is just another version of Am I the Asshole? Okay. It's six days old titled, Am I the Asshole for leaving my boyfriend's promotion party after his speech? Throw away for obvious reasons.

I, 29 female, had been with my boyfriend, 32 male, for almost three years. He recently got a big promotion at work. And honestly, I was really proud of him. I helped him prep for it, supported him during all the stressful weeks, picked up extra stuff at home so he could really focus. Anyways, he threw a party to celebrate. Fancy rooftop thing. Catered food, drinks, a lot of coworkers and friends, even some family, all good.

At one point, he got up to give a little speech and started thanking people. I knew it. His boss. I knew. Co-workers. His parents. And then he goes, quote, And of course, thanks to my girlfriend for putting up with me basically

being a ghost the last few months. You deserve a medal or something. People laugh. I kind of smiled, but it felt off. Then he followed up with, quote, she's not climbing the corporate ladder or anything, but she keeps the house running and makes sure I don't starve. More laughs. I just stood there, feeling like I'd been slapped in front of everyone. No mention of how I supported him emotionally, nothing about how I helped him throughout burnout or took on extra stuff to make his life easier, just some weak joke at my expense. I didn't say anything. I just left quietly. Texted him that I was going home. He didn't even notice I was gone until like two hours later. When he got home, he was pissed, said that I embarrassed him and that it was just a joke,

said I was too sensitive and ruined his night. Some of his friends agree with him, but my say I had every right to feel hurt. So was I the asshole for walking out? You are not the asshole for walking out, but I would have been an asshole and said, well, I had to leave to make sure that you didn't starve and I had dinner ready for you on the table. That's what I would have said. I love your response. Just like a little petty, just a little sass. I love that. I absolutely would have said that. Let me just tell you straight up. Your guy is not funny, but he thinks he is. We all know one of those. That's the worst, right?

He really thought he was funny and he used and he tried to be funny at your expense. It's hard for me to believe that's a one-off. This is who he is. The problem is he did it in front of a bigger circle. Yeah. You know, in front of people you don't know. I have a feeling he does this at small dinners in front of your family and friends. But this time he did it in a bigger way.

Your boyfriend is an asshole. Yeah. For sure. You know when they say there's truth in every joke. I don't know if I always believe that. But in this instance, I do. I do think that he was also saying kind of what he wants you to be in his life. You're not climbing the corporate ladder.

He's okay with that because you didn't say you cook or you make sure I don't starve. You make sure I don't starve. You mother him, basically. He's one of those. He's one of those who wants a mother rather than a woman. That's what he wants, which is sadly becoming a growing epidemic. It really, really is. I shouldn't say growing epidemic.

It's just an epidemic. It really is becoming one. It's here. It's amongst us. I know. I'm back out here. There's some blurry lines on these Reddit stories with moms. Yeah?

Oh, that's a whole other thing. Yeah. But I'm sure this isn't the first time. And I think that maybe she's having some harsh, you know, sometimes this was like the writing on the wall she couldn't run away from. She couldn't help but see because it was so public. And it wasn't him laughing. It was everybody laughing at her. It's like a scene out of a movie.

It really is. Where she's just kind of zones out and everybody's turning and laughing and pointing at her, which is not really what happened, but that's how it felt. It feels, yeah. And it's like he's thanking her,

but also in a way that feels so condescending. So like, hey, remember your place. I'm the breadwinner. Yeah. Thanks for keeping food on the table. Yeah. Like, it's very, there's a word that I'm like, I'm really, it's backhanded,

but it's like patronizing. Yeah, oh no, picturing. Yeah, totally. It's just like so pointed. Yeah. And it's like all you had to do is say thank you. Yeah. You didn't need all this extra stuff and like, well, she's not climbing the corporate ladder.

Well, why does that matter? Yeah. And is that disappointing to you? Because the way you're implying, you kind of are insinuating that I'm lacking in some way. I'm just keeping food on the table. This is someone that doesn't view you as an equal for sure. And there's no mention of kids. There's no mention of, you know, O.P. working.

But like maybe she's not climbing the corporate ladder, but maybe she sells a job and maybe not. Maybe she is staying at home and is a homemaker. And I would say like if he's giving these red flags now, I think it's only going to be worse when or if you have a kid. This is someone who doesn't look at stay at home moms as like a job when like being a stay at home mom is a full time job. You never are off the clock. You're a cook, maid, nanny, like all these roles built into one. And this is someone that's not going to, he doesn't respect you now. And he sure wouldn't respect you if that is a role you took on.

Yeah. Yeah. So well said. Like, maybe she can't climb the corporate ladder because you keep pulling her off of it to get in the kitchen. I think, I also think, and again, I'm not faulting her by any means. He is totally the asshole. But I wonder, how much of this have you relayed to him? You said you talk to your friends.

You're obviously talking to Reddit. But what have you told him? And I'm not saying this would change him. I'm not saying he'll be better. It doesn't sound like it, but he may. And I'm wondering if you've conveyed how you feel or how that made you feel or maybe he's continued this pattern or maybe even what it is you're looking for out of a partner. Do you watch Bravo? A little.

Okay. Not much. I think this is all fresh on my mind because I was podcasting earlier. But the Paige and Craig break up between Summer House and Southern Charm is a big deal. A lot of people are talking about it. And we thought it was starting off. It was going to be so amicable, so much respect. And it is turned into a disaster.

And they seem to be at each other's throats. And everybody else is offering their opinions, including myself. But one of the things I'm noticing as we're watching it, we know in real time they broke up. But we're watching kind of the breakup on the season. The problems. Okay. And one of the things I watch Paige constantly. do is tell her girlfriends how Craig makes her feel or what the problem is. One point he's in the

house and she's whispering, but she doesn't relate it to him. And I don't think he would change. He is who he is. But he's not even privy to how you're feeling, at least for what we're watching. Yeah. And I think we do that. We do. That's a really good point. We run to our girls. We run to our moms or somebody else we trust and we try to kind of get advice or feel things out or maybe work it out through them and then never say anything so we can go back and just like not ruffle any feathers because as women we protect we fix I'm not saying it's submissive but you know like we play our part a little bit yeah yeah and it's like what is that word it's like I think there is something ingrained in us where we do try to fix people a little more like as women versus a traditional

guy like we give a lot more grace and it is interesting because I've I've said a lot of times on this show like people aren't psychic you can't expect someone to know you're upset or how you're feeling unless you communicate, unless you talk about it. And I think women do go to their friends. We do vent. We have those close, close female relationships. So a lot of times we're telling our friends,

but we're not necessarily going back to our partner and then being like, hey, you know what? I didn't like this. And so I think a lot of times, that's why you'll see guys who kind of get shocked by a breakup. Whereas the woman, it's like, no, this was a long time coming. I've been emotionally checking out for so long. And they're already done with the relationship by the time the breakup actually comes.

But the guy's like, what? What did I do? So I think a lot of that is, as you said, it's like they're not talking. They're going to their friends instead. And it would be interesting if that's happening here. Is there follow up? We only have one comment from OP. One comment.

And it's someone that said, No, in fact, you were amazing in being able to smile through his dismissive speech. Dismissive. Yeah. I guess he thinks you're like the pit crew as he is the dazzling race car driver. I'm not sure what you could do to get him to recognize your contribution, not the asshole. And the only comment we have is this. Yeah, it was honestly really hard to keep it together in that moment.

I didn't want to say anything and ruin the night, but it hurt way more than he realizes. Thanks for understanding. Because I don't think they're coming. Again, I'm not faulting her. No. It's hard. It's really hard to just like, hey, I didn't like that. My feelings were hurt because, like, you don't want to seem silly.

You don't want to seem like you're childish for getting your feelings hurt over something so small or, I don't know, goofy. Yeah. But, like, you can communicate that. You can. And then their response is also very, it's very telling. It's very telling. It's everything. I do a lot of therapy.

And my therapist, I feel like I grew up kind of like, don't cry. It's a sign of weakness. Be strong. And so I was very much just like would brush my feelings under the rug until I started therapy 10 years ago. And I realized that a lot of work to do. But even most recently, my therapist was talking about weakness and vulnerability. And like, you know, when you are open with someone and you share how you feel,

it's not a sign of weakness. If there's more power in being vulnerable because then their response to you will tell you everything that you need to know. Yeah. And it might not be what you want to hear. And sometimes we aren't because we're afraid of back to one of the other OPs

where we were saying like, you know the answer. You know what you should do. Sometimes we don't want to hear that. But being vulnerable with someone really is powerful. And it's still something that I work on. And that's what I would encourage, you know, this OP because I fear that this guy is only going to recognize her worth when she leaves or if she left. Uh-huh. I completely agree. Yeah.

I'd be curious to know how long they've been together. I know. I want so many more details. I want way more tea. Also, stop doing so much for him. Okay? You were doing, she's doing way too much. She was going down the laundry list of all the things she helped. I mean, did he get the promotion or did you get the promotion? It's hard to decipher. Yeah, I definitely think it's, he's too comfortable. He doesn't value her and it's just one of those things where it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. But I mean, definitely worth a shot telling him how you feel and hopefully shifting his mindset, hopefully getting an apology. When she's not emotional. Like, right, take a beat. Yeah. It's hard. Tell him. It's so hard. It's so hard. Oh my gosh. And it's like, it's so easy to snap.

app, especially when you're overwhelmed or feeling bad. Like, I'm, like, feeling really guilty about it now because I'm like, we rented like a digger from Home Depot this weekend. We're doing like dirt work at our house. And I'm trying to like back up like our like truck in this trailer. And I'm like, it's not working. I'm turning the wheel. It's not going the direction.

And like my fiance is like, it's not working. I'm like, you're not helping me. And I felt so bad in the moment. But he said something years ago when I was like, oh, I just like, I don't like fighting with you. And it was something he said that really shifted my brain. And it's like it's okay to fight. Like it's actually probably good to fight because if you never fight, you're not growing. You're not realizing how to communicate with each other when you have problems.

Like fighting isn't necessarily bad. Yeah. And so hopefully this is how you fight. It's exactly. Don't fight mean. Like be understanding. Try to see the other person's side. Wait two things.

Yeah. Is he an earth son? My boyfriend. Fiancee? God, I still do that. He is August 20th. So he's a Leo. But he's not a... He's a Leo Virgo. He's cuss. He's, well, and he was born early. So he's not really, he doesn't really give Leo.

He's Virgo. I said, I called it Earth sign. Okay. There was something solid and steady about what you just said. Love that for you. Okay. Yay. Thank you. Second thing, you really are doing yourself. You rented a digger? I would be Googling somebody to come. I love that. I wish I had more of that in me. Well, I do have regrets. Like, DIY on the dirt, sure. But then we're putting in a fence.

And you got to dig down like two feet and like level the fence so your fence posts aren't up and down. I've done a fence before. We're hitting roots. We're like getting stuck in all of these like things. I'm like, I did not call before I dug. So now I'm like nervous. I'm going to hit a thing. But yeah, Texas, you've put up a fence.

My dad grew up on a farm in South Texas. And so when back in the summers we'd spend our summers in. in South Texas and I was the one, I have two sisters. I was the sister that wanted to help out. So I would help him like build fences and stuff like that. Yeah. Dude, I'm over it. I, well, I am too now.

I'm over it. We got an auger. I was like, oh, we're going to get our own auger. And nope. I'm like, I should have hired this out. What was I thinking? I'm like two days of work. I respect it.

I'm impressed. I really am impressed. Thank you. I've only got five fence posts in after two days. So I'm feeling like I don't have a lot to show. for all my hard work, but it'll come together and my horses will thank me eventually. But, yeah, I'm going to need an update on this one, O.P., if you're out there. I want to see how he does.

Also, is it normal to throw a party for yourself after promotion? Did he throw it or did they throw it for him? He threw it. I don't, ah, it depends. I mean, everyone should celebrate their success. Yeah. I mean, usually people throw it four. you, but if it's something he's been working towards, if it's a huge promotion.

Yeah. I mean, it does fall in line with this guy's mental, like who he seems to be. Yeah. But I'm not, I'm not mad at it. Okay. I'm also always looking for a reason to party, so. You're down. Sure, let's celebrate this.

You're down. Let's go. Okay, moving along. Okay. As we know, your dog mom. Yes. Would you ever eat out of your dog's bowl? Eat what?

Food. Like their food or my food? Your food out of their bowl. Would you ever share a dish? Is it clean? It could have been in the dishwasher, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, it's clean.

Why not? Okay. This next one's going to be good for them. This is coming from Am I the Asshole. It is five days old titled, Am I the Asshole, wife put my food in the dog bowl. I get home from work and my wife has made dinner.

We usually split this responsibility, though I enjoy making food. She told me in advance that it was stew. I get home. after telling her I was happy that she had handled the food as I arrive usually around 4.50 to 5 p.m. She tells me that the stew she made tasted okay and shows me my portion. It was in our dog's bowl. I didn't even notice at first, but when I did, I asked, is that the dog's bowl? She said yes, and that it had been in the dishwasher. I was taken aback

and stood in the kitchen for a bit. She then offered her own bowl of stew to eat, but she had already eaten from it. I feel as though it wouldn't have been hard to quickly wash a bowl that we had, as opposed to giving me the one that our dog eats from. He eats his own feces and is a dog. She was upset when I told her I wasn't going to eat it. She locked herself in the bedroom for hours after as well, as if I was the monster for saying I didn't want to eat out of the dog's bowl. after she came out and argued that the dishwasher cleans things at 160 degrees Fahrenheit and it would be okay. I not only disagree with that rationale, but have been germ averse since I was young. And she knows that.

Who wants to come home to food in their dog's bowl anyways? We have so many others that we only use once. I was so confused, and then more so when she acted like I was the bad guy. I'm only making this post because she said, that opinions would likely be split if I did. Who would think that was okay? How am I the asshole for not wanting to eat from a dog's bowl? Okay.

He's not the asshole. Not the asshole. She's fucking with you. It's hard to not ignore this or to ignore the symbolism here. It's like being in the dog house. Something was done. Right? Something was done the night, the day, the week before.

I don't know. I'm not saying that you were right or wrong, but something was done. Your wife was pissed off about it. And she said, okay, I'm going to put you in the dog house. I'm going to make you eat out the dog bowl. That's how I see it. Something she's upset about. She did this purposely. You already, he already said there are other bowls. But she's making you eat out of the dog bowl. She's telling you you're a dog for something that you did. My first thought was like, oh my gosh, she hates you. I'm like, Like, no, she's fucking with you. Like she's, you did something where she deems you a dog. What do you think about the fact that she went and locked herself in a room for a couple hours? I feel like she's like, you don't get it. Like she's mad about something else. This is one of those, the issue isn't the issue. Yeah.

That's how I'm interpreting it. So she's kind of like mad, not because he won't eat out of it because you don't get that I'm making you get out the dog bowl for a reason, something you did. That's the only logical thing I can think of because why else would she do that if there are other bowls? She's trying to make a point. It's clearly a point. I thought initially I'm like, is this a prank? Like, is she secretly recording?

Like what's going on here? Because it is so weird and it's like, oh, well, it came out of the dishwasher. Did you run the load with only the dog bowl in it? Like, are there not other bowls in there? Like, why are you giving me this bowl? Like, what about a mixing bowl? What about any other thing that could hold

this stew. Why am I getting the dog's bowl? And I think you're hitting it on the head. It's, pointed. There's some hidden message here about why you're eating out of the dog bowl. Now, what would be rich is if he was eating out of the dog bowl and the dog was eating out of the human bowl. His ball. I mean, it's like you're not even worthy. But, you know, I use my dog's name. Copper is. You know, I, yeah, she's clearly. And he doesn't get it. And I'm not saying she's right. We just mentioned earlier it's, it's okay to fight. It's about how you fight. This isn't the way. This isn't productive. It brings up other things. He's focusing as here. He's focusing on the what rather than the why. And the why is something deeper, which she's not communicating with him or being vulnerable enough to let him know what the issue is. She's more so. And she's shaming you even more. Now you've gone to Reddit and you've put it out there. They get ate that she tried to feed you out of a dog bowl.

That is inhumane in some ways. I would have a problem with it. Like, I don't know why. And I think it's just like obviously a mental thing. But I wouldn't want to eat out of a dog bowl. Now I wouldn't want to. But if there was nothing else left and I had to. Like, yeah.

I wouldn't want to. To be clear, because I know what I said earlier. To be clear. I would not want to. No, I wouldn't either. I'm like, there's little scratches in there and like, what if there's some bacteria still left in the scratch? This probably is. I'm like even a cutting board, sometimes cutting boards are like the grossest thing in your kitchen for mall. Yeah, that's true.

I just, that's true. I got food poisoning and ever since then, I'm real scared of everything in the kitchen. Was it from the cutting board? I think it was from an unwashed carrot. Yeah. I didn't even know you could get it from carrots. Yeah, I thought I bought this like fancy bag of like air. Lume mixed colored carrots.

And it was in like a bag and they were, I don't know, I thought they were washed. Like they looked so good. I thought they were washed. Yeah. So me and my fiance ate, we ate the same exact thing. That's the only thing I ate that was different. One unwashed carrot. I know.

It's scary out here. It is. Do you grow your own food? No. That's next for you. Okay. I am going to do a raised garden bag. I'm actually shocked.

You don't. You are very, you are queen, do it yourself. And again, I, I, wish I need more of that. That's what I'm like... You come over. We'll let you take care of the ponies a little. Have some wine.

It'll be good. Teach me a thing or two. Where do you think the opinions on this one are going to fall? The woman's the asshole. We have a lot. A lot of you're the assholes. The woman? Him.

How? So someone goes, dude, I just realized she wasn't mad because you didn't want to eat out of the dog's human bowl. She was mad because you were refusing the meal she made entirely. You refused one dish because you refused to accept that it was properly sanitized. And then you refused the other

her dish because you won't swap germs with your wife. You're the asshole. Okay. Guys, it was stew. I just want to start there. Yeah. It was stew. Like, I'm not a big stew eater.

But the guy's acting like she made, I don't know, like a T-bone steak with all, like, it was this like five-course meal or something like that. It's stoo. She's not, he's not an asshole. That's not what makes him an asshole, or I would say. I don't agree with that one. Mm-mm. Top comment, though, which maybe is the voice of reason, no assholes here. Controversial take, apparently. But the fact she offered to switch shows she wasn't sending you a message or intentionally treating you disgustingly. She just didn't get it. Now she knows. Do I find it awesome?

that she served your food in the dog bowl? Yes. Do I find it odd you didn't switch when she offered? Yes. Will I call either of you an asshole for it? Nope. Just talk it through and move on. I think that she offered to switch because she knew he wouldn't.

Oh, my jaw just dropped you guys. So I'm looking at the comments here. O.P. O.P.'s wife. Comments on the post. That a girl. What is she? That a girl.

That's the energy I like. What does she say? Oh my gosh. O.P.'s wife here. To clarify something hotly debated in the comments, this is a human bowl, hastily bought because when we moved, I realized we'd left our pet dishes. Last weekend, we were able to bring over a lot more of our stuff, including the original dog bowl, the classic shiny silver kind. And I thought, great, now we have two extra human bowls. I feel like a lot of our dishes are still missing after the move, so I was happy to have these. The dog ate and drank out of it for maybe two weeks, which I get is gross. I washed them both by hand before putting them in the dishwasher.

In my mind, this made them clean. After making the stew, we had one clean bowl in the cabinet and one that had just finished in the dishwasher, the dog bowl. I gave my husband the dog bowl because, after dishing out the stew, that bowl had received the largest portion, and he expressed that he was hungry. After he questioned me about the dog bowl, I realized that yes, he may object to eating out of it, so I offered him the bowl that was in the cabinet. I had eaten one bite. I know he struggles with eating after people, but he has regularly drank or eaten after me, so I thought it would be fine. On our first date seven years ago,

he offered me a sip of his beer because it was unique. Before the move, we lived near a craft brewery and would often swap sips of different beers there. For these reasons, I thought he was okay with eating and drinking after me. She is doing, like, there's still more, but like the thoughtfulness here? I don't believe her. You don't believe her? Don't believe her at all. Oh, now I'm like, he's being dramatic.

I think she's manipulative. See, when I first read this, I'm like, oh, that's silver, that classic stainless steel silver dog bowl. Like, I wouldn't want to eat out of that, but like, It was a human ball. It was a human ball. It takes the type of person to read all the comments and then decide that she's going to respond. Okay, let's see what else.

Oh my gosh. She's been a feelative. We work roughly the same amount of hours, but I get off work about two hours earlier than him. And I had spent those two hours making the stew so it was ready the moment he got home. I was hurt. He refused to eat it. Even after I offered to eat from the dog bowl. I didn't feel like he approached the conversation.

very kindly and felt like my efforts were ignored. To address one commenter, No, this is not a fetish thing, L.O.L. I genuinely felt like the bowl was clean and was not trying to insult my husband. Unrelated, but I'm flabbergasted by my husband's claim in the comments that he does dishes 65% of the time. Sixty-five is a really specific number. I definitely didn't catch that percentage. He, it was in a comment throughout the post to someone, but Opie has since deleted his account. So I can't go look and see if there's any comments from OP because OP felt a little embarrassed, I think,

after wife he came in. Of course. Let me tell you's running things over there. The wife. That she is manipulative. Again, it is a character trait for the actions that she took and to make sure that she wasn't looked at in the bad light. Okay.

You can't convince me that it's hard. I know it was a human bowl. If the dog has been eating out of this bowl for two weeks, and you clearly associate that bowl with that dog. Yeah. She knew it is hard for me to fathom that she didn't consider. Let's just say her word, what she's saying is true, that she didn't think, huh, he might feel a certain way about eating out that bowl.

It just escaped your mind. Yeah. I think it was purposeful for whatever her reason may be. That's so interesting. Maybe because she said, as she pointed out, I can't believe he said he does dishes 65% of the time. She clearly doesn't think he does dishes that much. So maybe there's some resentment in other areas.

I think she was trying to get back at him in certain ways. Now he put all this information out here, made her look bad or tried to make her look bad. I mean, this is the am I the asshole subreddit. Yeah. Someone's got to look bad most times. And so she's pissed. So I just think that she knew what she was doing. Yeah.

She did post a link for the bowl. See, she's doing too much. It's like one of those bowls that you would get in college, like just a plastic bowl. It literally cost 50 cents. And it being plastic, I'm back on the boat of like it's gross, even though it is a human bowl. Because it's like a plastic cutting board. Like you cut and you create these scratches and these knife marks and whatever.

and bacteria can live in there. Like, this is a dog. Dogs mouths are really dirty. That's why, like, if you get a dog bite, the risk of infection, like, it is so great. Yeah. It happens every, you pretty much always infecting. Yeah. And I don't know why people say, like, there's that thing where it's like dogs' mouths are cleaner

than ours. Like, there's some bacteria in there, guys. So those are people who aren't around a lot of humans. They don't know. Like, they aren't around people. Or they're trying to justify making out with their dog. 100%. I just like, it grosses me.

out when people let their dogs just lick them in the mouth. Like, bleh. So I'm back on, like, it is gross. I wouldn't want to eat out of that bowl. But then again, I'm like, but she did offer to switch. So maybe she's being a little manipulative. Maybe she's gaslighting. But I feel like he should have taken her bowl. Like, if you're worried about, like, stew and backwash into the stew, why are you sharing beers?

But, like, you're married. Y'all don't make out? You don't use tongue? That's a thing. You don't get freaking in the best. bedroom? Like what? Stop acting like you guys aren't intimate with one another. So I, I find it hard to believe you were gross out from eating after her. One bite. You could have used another fork. Yeah. Or spoon or whatever, however you eat stew. Or drinking, like, what? This is your wife.

You know. There's something. Something fishy is going on here. There's something weird. I don't want to say weird because I like weird. There's something strange going on with this couple. Well, now they're fighting in the comments and it's like he doesn't do the dishes 65% of the time it's like take a step back they're bored they got to be they're bored but people are really upset for her people are like now coming to her defense there is so many comments under under her response people are like you seem like a nice person and there are plenty of fish in the sea i'll leave it at that and guess what that is exactly what she wanted she wanted to be she wanted people to praise her to uplift her it sounds like the

comments weren't going that way, which is why she stepped in. You might have a good read on this. I'm very torn, but we did have a story years ago now. And it was this mom writing in being like, am I the asshole for getting my kids' Nintendo's? And she wrote this sob story about how she got these kids, Nintendo's, and they didn't care. And she called them spoiled brats and stormed out and left crying. Meanwhile, her daughter found the post, wrote in, and the daughter was like, she left us when we were little. She's super manipulative. She's a liar, narcissistic, like all this, like, truth. And it was like, so she wrote the story making herself look like the victim when, so maybe, maybe this is that.

Maybe this is her. She's back, y'all. Full circle moment. She's back. This is going to be one we're going to have to put to the people. All right. I need, I'm, I'm in the boat of not the asshole for not wanting to eat out of the dog bowl. That he's not the asshole. He's not the asshole. No, I agree. He's not the asshole.

I don't know where I fall on her, though. She is. She is. So I don't know, how am I going to phrase this poll, you guys? Like, do you think she's doing it intentionally? Do you, I guess, do you believe her comment? Yeah, do you believe her? Do you believe her comment?

or like, did he kind of come with more truth in this? It's interesting. It's an odd couple. You want to talk about odd? We're going to talk about odd. This next one. Okay, I'm ready for this. This next one is odd.

Okay. Oh, my gosh. I don't know what is wrong with people. I think a lot of people lately have like bonged their heads. I think we'll never be the same after 2020. So maybe that's it. Maybe that's it. We'll never be the same. Uh-huh. And this is one that's feeling like we will never be the same.

So this is coming from Am I the Asshole. Okay. It's two days old. Titled fresh. Very fresh. I had to like make sure I give you the good stuff. Titled Am I the asshole for refusing to let my neighbor use my vintage bathtub for his therapy sessions. I need so much background on this.

I, 28. female live in an old Victorian house that I inherited from my grandfather. One of the features of the house is the original clawfoot bathtub from the 1920s in the upstairs bathroom. I was originally going to look at having it removed, but kept putting it off and eventually I fell in love with it, so I kept it. Enter my next door neighbor, Dennis, about 50 male. Dennis is, dot, dot, dot, eccentric. He's into all these weird health trends, like grounding his feet in buckets of dirt for electrical balance. Lately, he's gotten into hydrotherapy, which apparently requires him to soak in cold water for extended periods to reset his nervous system.

Two weeks ago, Dennis came over and, completely out of the blue, asked if he could use my bathtub for his hydrotherapy sessions. I thought he was joking, but no. He earnestly explained that my bathtub was, quote, the perfect energy conduit because it was pre-industrial revolution and untainted by modern manufacturing processes. Question mark, question mark, question mark. I told him no, obviously. I don't want a rando wrinkly old dude filling it with ice water and doing whatever nonsense he's into. Dennis did not take this well. He said I was being selfish with community resources.

and that because I inherited the house rather than buying it, I had a duty to share since I didn't work for it. He started bringing it up every time he saw me, passive-aggressively, saying things like, must be nice to hoard that all to yourself. Then somehow this got out to the neighborhood Facebook group, who loves drama. And now half the street thinks I'm the villain for gatekeeping my own back.

bathtub. The cherry on top is Dennis conveniently claims that his shower stopped working too, so he doesn't have a place to even clean himself. Not like this was a favorite pastime of his to begin with, respectfully. I was trying to just avoid Dennis as much as I could and ignore the few comments from my neighbors until I ran into one of my neighbors while I was going for a walk Saturday evening. I don't really know her, but we chatted briefly and somehow the issue came up. I was expecting some sympathy for the absurdity of this all, but this woman proceeds to tear into me, like literal verbal assault, and by the end of it, asking me why I was being so stupid and selfish, that I have multiple bathrooms in the house and couldn't even spare it to help this old man's health.

This morning, I found a literal gift-wrapped bar of soap in my mailbox. There was no note or anything, but I had a little gift-wrapped bar of soap in my mailbox. There was no note or anything, but I assume this was her and an insanely passive-aggressive, petty way of telling me to shove it. I do not want this man soaking in my tub. I do not care about his nervous system reset. But now I feel like I'm losing my mind because everyone around me is acting like I'm some sort of selfish monster. I get that some of the people in my neighborhood aren't keen on me living here, but I live by myself and work and work and go to school all day and I'm genuinely starting to worry that I'm going to come home someday

to find Dennis reclining in my tub. Am I the asshole? No. You are absolutely not that. I don't know where she lives. The Twilight Zone. I've never heard of anything like this. Dennis the menace. Okay. Dennis. Literally Dennis the menace. He's a freak. He's a freak. Yeah. And I think he wants, he wants to get off. And I'm sorry. There's just. no other way of putting it by being in that tub. No, whoever diagnosed him with whatever or whatever therapy was told that he should have to heal him or maybe it's self-diagnosed, I'm not sure. The fact that that kind of tub is the only tub that can heal him is insane.

The man wants to be naked in your house because he's going to get off on it. He is a freak. And the fact that is, why does no one else see that? That it's, it's beyond. And does no one else have a bathtub? Offer him your bathtub. Exactly. Like if he need, if this man is so desperately needs it, use someone else in the neighborhoods, get a hotel, get a tub. How about you renovate your own house and get a tub? I would suggest that OP gets a security system, ring cameras, locks, ASAP. A gun. ASAP. Because he doesn't sound.

stable and he sounds fixated and obsessed on getting in your tub. And it's just like it's, I'm hearing's harassment. I feel like a restraining order is about to be in place. There's just a lot of things that are wrong here. Honestly, that don't make a lot of sense to me either. But, you know, for the sake of what you're writing, I, you know, I'll believe you. But just this is, as you said, you preface this. It's odd. It's odd. odd. Like first off, also, why does Dennis know you have this tub? Like, I get, how close were you and Dennis to say, hey, by the way, I have this beautiful Victorian tub? I mean, maybe she was like, I'm thinking of getting rid of it. Maybe he, maybe are you interested in it? I don't know. But

I know all my neighbors. But my neighbors don't know that I have, you know, if I would have, if I have, if I have a Victorian tub, they would not know. They wouldn't know. I wonder if maybe he was friends with the uncle. Like maybe. And maybe knew that way. But no, not the asshole. The fact that the neighborhood is getting involved, the fact that Dennis posted this on the Facebook page, like my neighborhood has a Facebook page too. And there's a lot of drama on there. But to post such a weird personal problem you have with someone on a group neighborhood Facebook page, he does sound unhinged. Yes. He sounds like he's seriously bored, if not deeply troubled. And no, I would not want someone coming in my home, learning the ins and outs, getting naked.

I'm like, what's he going to do in there? Exactly. I could see it being a fetish. Like, there's been weirder things. I'm just perplexed by this. And honestly, I was like, okay, let me see. Let me see what I have on Facebook Marketplace. This is like the only reason I have Facebook these days is like to see Marketplace.

Dennis could go on Facebook and get a claw foot tub for as little as for, free. Why doesn't he put it in his backyard? Oh, that's a great point. There you go. Like, these are free. People are giving these things away because they're heavy and they want them removed from their home. And I know, like, people are going to be like, okay, well, Dennis shouldn't have to buy something. Whatever. I don't care what Dennis has to do. He can go to a gym. He can go to a health spa that has cold plunges and saunas. Saunas. He can do anything else, but he's not entitled to this person's bathtub. No, not in her private space. not in her area, not in her sanctuary, which is what a home is to so many of us.

So, yeah. She needs to go file a police report. I would, the harassment at least. Everything that she's describing sounds not normal. And I would at least go on record because like if you've ever been stalked or anything like that, if you at least go make a police report, it's easier to get them to respond if you already have something like this on record. That paper trail.

It's equally odd as it is serious to me because it's, you know, it's equally odd as it is serious to me because it doesn't unhinged to use your word. That's a little scary to me. The obsessive nature he has over getting in this tub. You know, you know what? You just found a free tub. You should, O.P. Should find out where it is and as a gift.

Get him the tub. Give him the free tub. Literally. Yeah. Literally. But in the backyard. I agree. I would be scared.

I think, as you said, like cameras immediately. The fact you had someone put something in your mailbox and you don't know who was is scary because then I would start to be like what else are they going to do to like torment me and try to make me let Dennis in my tub like yeah it's a hand-wrapped bar of soap but they still snuck over there put it in your mailbox they're trying to send you a message yeah what's next yeah and this is an older man and a young woman you just you like you would think that the neighborhood would want to look out for her or just it's again this is like a scene. This is the beginning of a scary movie. This is a script for some horror film.

It is really scary. The Victorian house. The Victorian tub. I don't remember what it was actually called, but like Dennis and the Victorian tub. Sounds like a Nancy Drew case. But like there's something there. It's just so. Yeah. Especially with his comments. He's like, you inherited it. It's a community resource. A community. I mean, unless, unless something was going down before she moved in and it was a community tub at the time. Maybe it was a swinger house. Yes. A bad house.

You never know. Maybe there was, there's some history tied. Didis clearly has some sort of connection with this tub. And we don't know what it is. There might be a whole history. Maybe he was born in that tub. Yeah. There was a water birth.

Waterbirth went down. He's trying to get back to his roots. Well, guess what? We have an update. No. Do we find out a little more? Does this happen? Wait, which one?

On the top, we got an update. Oh, I thought like it was like a live up. Wait, did it just happen? It was posted a day ago. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. We gotta bring you back more. This is good energy. Update.

I want to say thank you all for your support. I was overwhelmed with a thousand Reddit notifications this morning and literally cried from relief scrolling through all of your comments before I got out of bed, which I will just say top comment on it. We all know, like not the asshole. Yeah. The top comment on the post is it's a common thing to say for these subs, but you got to go right ahead and thank everyone for judging you for their unspoken offer to let dirty ass dentist use their bathroom for his needs. Obviously, they care so greatly about this. They're fine with letting him do whatever he likes in their homes. Not the asshole. Community resource. Laughing my ass off. Some people have an overwhelming amount of audacity. That part. Yeah. Okay. Now back to the update, actually. Some helpful details to clarify the neighborhood situation. It's a very small, older community that is fairly isolated from the surrounding area.

Everyone has all lived here forever, and everyone is very toxic and set in their ways. They are very politically hostile to outsiders, and though I am not a strong politics person, it became very clear when I moved in that I was not one of them. This combined with the jealousy of my inheriting the house at a relative to the relationship, relatively young age has painted me as an outsider in their minds. This is the first actual issue I've had. But there have been mild microaggressions towards me in the past. Nothing serious, just a little to irk me that I have largely ignored. To the people saying I use M-dash is too much, deal with it. Also comments about the age of the tub sound accurate. I'm not a history buff, but that makes sense.

And of the people who was offended by me calling Dennis old, I'm sorry, he's probably late-fifference. and while that is not super old, it is old enough compared to me to make me feel weird about inviting him into my home as practically a stranger. Yeah. As for moving forward, I don't have the mental and physical capacity to care for a dog in my life right now, especially a big one, and I don't feel comfortable inviting a housemate into my home to live with me. That said, the cameras really seem like a great idea that I should have considered when I moved

in. I just didn't see the need for them before. I don't have loads of money to spend on. a full security system, but will at least be purchasing a camera for my front door. I am worried about confronting Dennis or escalating things in the Facebook group because I do not want things to get worse or encourage someone to do something stupid. For the time being, I will be actively avoiding him and my neighbors and seeing if anything else happens. I haven't dealt with the police in my town, but have heard that they are not super helpful.

So I hesitate to bring this to their attention. I feel like telling them that someone asked you my bathtub and someone else gave me a bar of soap is not going to be grounds for them to take me seriously. Something that has really worried me in the comments on the original post about Dennis's possible predatory behavior. While it was clear that he has been gently harassing me about it, I never even considered the fact that being naked in my home or sharing the intimacy of my bathtub may be some sort of weird fetish or kink. Yep. Freak! This may be overreacting, but now that I think about it, all the signs check out. The constant pressure and like seriously, why wouldn't he just buy his own bathtub? I feel naive and a major ick and I'm genuinely scared about what he might do

if he actually has ill intentions. Any further input is welcome. Go to the cops. Like after hearing all that, the last part of what she said, go make a police report. I don't care what the reputation is about the police. At least go do it. Try. Try. Put it on record. Make a diary, a log of what is happening day by day, when you have a little bit of money, invest in a security system, whether it's ring, you can put up some of those cameras by yourself. There's another good one too. I can't think of it. We do the ad on our podcast all the time. I just got a cove system. It's a cove. Okay. It's not cove. Simply safe. Simply safe. Simply safe. Because you can do inside or outside. Yeah. I would do all those things, but I would make a log for sure. Yeah. And then I would look at Airbnb options.

Now, she might be in a HOA and they might not be able to, but like, I would look at options as to renting out and see if you can find someplace else cheaper because clearly the neighborhood's trying to push you out. Yeah. And it's like, should you be forced to leave your home? No. But like, honestly, you said you're kind of tight for money that even buying cameras is like not that feasible. What if you have such a nice big house that you could rent it out for thousands of dollars every weekend and then get yourself something, you know, until maybe the neighborhood changed. changes over a little bit because it will. And that's an amazing asset to have, but you can't force Dennis to leave. Yeah. You can't force anyone else in this neighborhood to like you. So, it's definitely something to consider. I, um, I just got a Cove system and I really like this system. I think I paid like $180 and it came with like a panel, window sensors, door sensors. Nice. And then I bought cameras from Ufi because they're solar powered so they never go out. Oh, that's good. No lines to cut. Like,

I'm obsessed. So if anyone wants to chat, home security, I am hooked up. Well, yeah. Don't even come to my house. Let them know. I cannot believe that's happened to you three times.

Everybody should have a security system. I'm so paranoid. I live so paranoid. Yeah, dogs, police will tell you, dogs are the best thing. I have an alarm system, cameras as well. But yeah. And it's strapped up.

But that is wild. I also say just a side note, the diary logging it is necessary for the script. Yeah. For the script. The future horror movie that you're going to write. Not because you'll live it in real life, just because we're going to build on it. Build that case, baby. Build that case.

Okay, one last one for you today. Okay. You know a thing or two about accepting roses and handing out roses. I do. So ending on this one coming from AIT-A-H, two days old. titled, Am I the Asshole for Not Accepting a Dozen Roses from my husband after my surgery? I had to have a lumpectomy on one of my breasts due to cancer. My husband took me to the hospital for the procedure and left to go run errands.

I had never had this procedure done before, and finding out I had cancer was a scary thing. He said he would be right back while they were prepping me for surgery. Once I was ready and waiting to go into surgery, the nurse asked if I wanted to go into surgery, the nurse asked if I wanted my husband to come sit with me until it was time to go in. I said yes, but she came back and said that she couldn't find him. I sat in the room by myself for an hour, and he still didn't show. I went into surgery without any reassurance from him. No kiss on the cheek with an I love you, or everything will be okay.

It was such a lonely feeling, and I was wishing that I had brought my mom with me instead. The procedure was done within an hour, and I was in the recovery room. Once my anesthesia wore off, I was awake and realized my husband still had not returned. At this point, I was really getting worried. The nurse said he wasn't answering his phone, and she seemed irritated that he wasn't there. The nurse went on to give me post-surgery directions, which I was only half listening to because I was still kind of out of it. Plus, with my increasing worry of where the hell my husband was.

was. The nurse comes in after half an hour and says, Sweetie, we are still trying to call him. But if he doesn't get here soon, you won't be able to leave. There's a big storm coming in, and this wing will be on lockdown until the storm passes. I could feel the tears welling up in my eyes. I just wanted to go home. Ten more minutes go by, and he waltzes in with a dozen roses, like he was the most thoughtful husband ever. When I asked him where he was, he told me he was at the bar because he was hungry for one of those delicious burgers. I told him that I had been waiting alone throughout this whole ordeal and that he should have been there for me. He said he was sorry and held out the roses.

I told him he could take the roses and shove it, and that I was never having him come with me during a medical procedure ever again because he sucked. I was getting part of my breasts removed while he had a tasty burger and a beer? What the hell? Tears streamed down my face the entire ride home. Was I the asshole for not accepting the roses? No. You shouldn't have accepted the roses. I wouldn't have accepted his ride home. I would have. I would have ubered. I would have locked the doors. I would have been like, you go back to that bar or wherever you are, because I don't even know if I believe that. First off, I hope you're doing okay. If you're listening. Second, I can. I can't. I can. I can't even imagine what it is to be diagnosed and then to also, you know, like, you feel very

vulnerable. You feel very scared, very alone already as you're going through this journey. But to know you at least have a partner, you're like, okay, well, at least I have a supportive partner. Yeah. And the fact that this man acted as if he took his wife to the dentist, you know, and just went to go allegedly catch a game or whatever he was doing at the bar to get a beer and a drink obviously. I just, I'm so outraged for her. I'm mind blown. That the audacity. The audacity. That's the word again. The audacity that you would be, I just, you should be, first off, you should be, I am your partner in life. I am going through something major. You have no idea what could happen when I, I mean, this might be the last time you see me. The surgery could go wrong. They might

find something. You just never know. And the fact that you weren't here when I left, you weren't here when I got here, it just, it all, it would make me feel like you were waiting for me to go away. Yeah. And if you can't support me through this, if God forbid it gets worse, how do I know that you're going to be by my side and support me through that? Oh my gosh. I love men, but they are also trash. I'm not going to generalize, but I am. I just like, I'm So, it's like, there's so many things too where it's like, okay, you were hungry. Cool. It took you over an hour. Like, there was so much time before surgery prep and like actually going under the knife and like, okay. But he wasn't even answering his phone. Why aren't you answering your phone? Oh, I didn't even catch that. Oh. So much so like, what if something did go wrong and the nurse was calling you to be like, hey, she had a bad reaction to anesthesia and didn't make it. Right. Oh, yeah. God, I guess I'm. That burger was more important than my wife. It's such a bad lie.

What? It's not true. It's such a bad lie. He was clearly doing, I would be like, let me smell your breath. What was on the burger? It is so... It is so... Bad.

Is this divorce worthy for you? It's the beginning of the end for me, for sure. Yeah. I just, it's so layered. There's trust issues with it. You're inconsiderate. Self-serving. I just...

This is somebody going to, well, it's surgery, period. If I have my wisdom teeth, Al, you better be right there by my side. You better be damn near fighting to get into the emergency room with me, asking for updates what's going on, let alone surgery. What was it? What did she had? A lumpectomy. A breast cancer.

I just can't get over the way he's acting. It's as if, and this is going to sound very harsh, but the way he's acting, he's acting as if she's already gone. He's acting as if the diagnosis is a death. sentence. Oh my God, you're so right. And that's what I wouldn't be able to get over. As soon as I would use that man to as best as I could, because he doesn't seem to be that useful to help me get back on my feet and to get back where I needed to be to get back on my bearings. And I would leave him. I would slowly be, I'd be vindictive. I'd slowly be basically what happened to me. Be preparing

how I was going to make my departure. Because that is a man you can't trust. So you use for what you can and you bounce as soon as you get on your feet and find that man who treats you up. Yeah, get through the cancer and like, who knows if he's even going to stay with her through that? Like, if you look at stats,

the stats don't lie. If you look at heterosexual relationships and women get sick, men are more likely to leave than if the man got sick and the woman stayed to care for that. Like, it's just the stats. So hopefully she has a supportive partner

through this, but no, not the asshole. I wouldn't take the roses. He needs to go back to the gutter he crawled out of. Like pawn scum energy here. Insane. The fact that he wasn't there to hold her hand. And when she woke up, which, okay, now it's a two-hour window after that surgery, my fiance is going to come with me when I get my chin lipo and he's going to hold my hand every step of the freaking way. Like, this is something that's just like, this is breast cancer. This is such a big deal. I don't even know how you look at yourself. You're right. Right, it's such a big deal.

It's so, it's so scary. And I don't know how you look at yourself in the mirror and know that you weren't there. Like, what if the situation was reversed? He's got to be doing something so shady. Oh, yeah. At the bar. At the bar. And why would you go to a bar to get a burger?

You know how many fast food places are around here? And instead, you went to go get a drink. And let's just give him the slight benefit of the doubt. All right. Sometimes people don't know how to handle their emotions. True. So maybe you were so. so stressed out that you went to go grab yourself a beer and maybe you were emotional when

you were there and you got a burger and you lost track of time and you realize you lost track of time and you knew you weren't there. So you grab some roses and you're like, I'm so sorry. I don't know quite how to process this as well. I am just as scared as you, but I didn't know how to tell you because I don't want to scare you too. Yeah. That would bring me back. 100%. And I think a lot of times like I think that is a message to people. never be scared to be vulnerable with your person with they're married you are in it whether it's your boyfriend girlfriend wife husband like be vulnerable sometimes it is so much better to just fall on your sword and say that i handled this poorly i don't know how to handle this i'm scared i'm so sorry

like that is human we're all human we're all gonna fuck up but own it then yeah don't be like oh i was hungry i had a burger and a beer that's not that's not what i want to hear like be vulnerable talk communicate why do we do that oh my god why do we avoid why do we run away from things you know like why why is that easier and i mean it's tell as old as time but why is that easier than just having the conversation it's it's some weird twisted way of like self-preservation it's it's scarier to be vulnerable than to just like be in trouble or have someone mad at you like it's I don't know some psychological stuff

we're going to have to unpack in therapy I would have for every rose I'd have a list of things that you will be doing to make it up for me I like that yeah that's a good little comeback yeah every pedal clean the house take care of the kids

that's right that's right I like that where do you think the comments went on this one they can only go one way like please I don't want to leave on an angry note Top comment, not the asshole. Okay. Not being there for you is already bad,

but not even bothering to answer his phone while he knows you're going in a surgery is beyond disrespectful. Next comment down, Not the asshole. He was having a burger throughout the whole time. Really? That's the most awful lie I've ever heard.

His story doesn't add up. No, it doesn't. Wow. Ooh. Apparently, there's a comment from O.P. that suggested he might have been using some Coke as opposed to an affair. So just as bad. I don't know if I believe.

Like that's what? I wouldn't even put that in there. So he was doing cocaine for two hours and he couldn't? Wouldn't he be wired? I don't know. Wouldn't he be all up and ready to, I don't know. There's a lot. He didn't pass out off the Coke.

It's still a long time to be gone. Exactly. Maybe he needed to let the buzz fade a little bit. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, it's not like being drunk where he had to sober up. I don't know. This, O, P, I'm concerned. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. But I did like having you on today. I did too. I enjoy myself so much. Oh, Rachel, this is so good. You have so many amazing things going on right now. You have two podcasts. Yes. Where can people find you? How can they listen?

to the shows that you have. Thank you so much for asking. So I have two podcasts, Higher Learning, which we talk about everything from current affairs, politics, sports entertainment, and how it is intersected with culture. A lot of fun. Gets a little crazy, but it's definitely like you're listening to your brother and sister. Yeah, this is with you in Van, right? Yeah, this is me in Van. This show sounds amazing. It's unhinged. It's unhinged. It's a little bit about it. It's a, it's unhinged, but it's so much fun. It's like a family reunion. You're just, you know, that talk you have where you go back and forth at the dinner table and everybody gathers for the holidays. It's like that. But we debate everything that's relevant

and current in the world. And that drops, new episodes drop every Tuesday and Friday. And then twice a week? Twice a week. And then for all my Bravo lovers, we do morally corrupt, beautifully named after Beverly Hills, season one episode. And the dinner table, all great things happen on a boat or around to dinner table on Housewives shows. And we just started, now we do it twice a week as well. So new episodes drop every Tuesdays, Tuesday and Friday. When are you sleeping? When are you doing anything? I'm wired up. But the Tuesday show is all news and Bravo news. And then the Friday show, we recap what's going on on Bravo with all the shows. So we do about three to four shows. So it's a fun time. I love what I do. I'm grateful to do it. And I'm grateful to be here talking with you. This is so fun.

My pleasure. Pleasure is all mine. I hope I didn't offend anyone. Hey, it's just a difference of opinions. There we go. It's not what we're saying. It's not fact. It's not end all be all.

It's just an opinion. Just an opinion. Just an opinion. Just a hot take. Just a mildly lukewarm, mildly tempered take. It's fun. But thank you so much. Thank you. That's all I got for you guys.

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