Two Hot Takes - 219: Trip to the Edge.. Ft. Chris Klemens & Michaela Okland

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

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Okay, family. Are we seated? I'm filled with vengeance right now. I'm like, I want to kill him. And you'll never know what I'm talking about. Maybe it'll be in the bloopers someday. No, you can put it in. I said that all that shit with my chest before publicly on my own.

He wants it to be in. I know. I'm like, put it out there. Chris is feeling spicy. Spiceful. Stir the potty. I'm not stirring a pot. I just... You're knowing what the pot is and you're calling the ingredients what it is.

But I'm talking about criminal activity. That's so true. You know, like I'm not stirring a pot. I am literally talking about what should be court documents. There are some influencers out there that should not have platforms, we'll put it that way. Michaela and I met some crazy ones on our trip. Stop. It was so... Wait.

I've never been more exhausted after a conversation. Can we talk about it on Patreon? A conversation. They were just like so awful in person and then like I texted one of my friends about it and they're like, oh yeah, he got canceled this year. Wait. For also being a pedophile. What? so awful in person and then like I texted one of my friends about it and they're like, oh yeah, he got canceled this year Wait! For also being a pedophile. What?!

Many such cases... Oh, I don't know who that is. I'm no angel. I'll tell you that right now. I'm no saint. I know it. I know I have downfalls. I can be flaky. But... I care too much. I care too much. But I'm not a pedophile. Definitely not.

The bar is so low. I'm too generous with my time and my resources. Hey, Michaela, this means my little hype girl right now. I can be flaky is the funniest thing. I can also not be perfect. When we're talking about criminal activities. No, but I will say, I don't want to talk mad shit. I don't want to open a can of worms.

But some of the influencers out there that are fan favorites, I'm like, no, they're genuinely just not. They have dark spirits. No, if people fucking knew. One day when I delete the accounts, I'll write a book. The shit that I motherfucking know. People are just cruel. I've done this shit for too long not to know everything. Yeah, there's a lot out there. But this is all coming up as

Mikhail and I just did our first like friend trip together. We went to London. Oh my god. I have a shirt. I have a souvenir shirt. I love London. I hear I love London. I was hoping Morgan would wear one too And we would match but that didn't happen and that's okay. I'm here alone But we had a good trip together which is not the case for a lot of people travel can bring out the terrorists The terrorists being that sounded bad Travel can be terrible? There is terror in travel. No, like, traveling does turn me into a bad person, for sure.

What's the worst thing you've done on a trip? I mean, nothing, because I'm like a fucking people pleaser, but it's like all internal. It's like on flights and like, ugh. Like when the middle seat is open and they're like boarding has concluded and you're like, fuck yeah. And then all of a sudden a random bitch appears five minutes later and takes the middle seat.

And I'm like, I thought the door was closed. Literally thought that door was closed. Literally all the time, all the time. Why, where did they come from? And then they're in the seat next to me and I'm pissed. The most awkward is like you nucks the person across. This was me recently. I nucks him. I go, I just looked an hour ago and it was open.

We nuxed and Lynn, literally someone sat there. That happened, no that was two flights ago. I brought it upon myself with the nux. Yesterday was my first middle seat ever open. Yeah, thanks. Wow. Wow. I mean, I'm usually flying first class, so there is a middle seat, but I didn't last

night and I was brave and rewarded. I feel lucky if I get a window. No, honestly though, it is not as sexy as you. Like I'm not saying that as a first class. Yeah, I just literally have horrible anxiety on planes. And I just feel like I have a little bit more space. I can't even go into the house. I totally get it. I could really go off on like an hour and a half rant about airlines and the size of seats on planes. Newark is the product. We don't need this. This is so

stupid. No one's like tuning in for a current event. That's fine. Travel today, guys. I've got some amazing guest co-hosts down here on the sofa. We've got Chris Clemens joining. Hello! If you didn't recognize that beautiful voice. And Michaela Oakland. Hi! I know you guys love that. Not. But very excited. Chris has a new podcast. We talked about it on our episode with him just a few weeks ago.

Chris versus the people! Wow, not me clipping that and having a new intro. Brrrr. Can you imagine? Gavel. A gavel with like a bomb. I don't know why this is going there today, but like... I like that. Just like a Mennon explosion.

Gavel explosion. Yeah. And little Chris heads fly out of it. Sure. Why not? I've smoked enough for that to be feasible. I know I like this. Same.

Michaela, amazing as always. Thank you. Thank you. I recently discovered that She Rates Dogs Instagram was banned. So if we have anyone out there that can help get that back for Michaela. Oh wow. Yeah. I mean, that's been years, but that would be awesome, yeah.

Much appreciated. The dogs were men. Pfft, so true. And I did write them, yeah. No, so true, and God, we need that page back. We need it back, so if anyone's out there. Bring her home, bring her home. No, let's bring her home.

Bring her back. But on that note, let's get into these terrible travel tribulations. Tales? Trials and tribulations. Yeah, we'll see. What a trip, these trips. Ooh. Quadruple T.

What a trip. Let's dive in. I'm out. Okay friends, before we get into the stories this week, I just want to let you know that this episode is presented by Duluth Trading from my very own hometown. Hot summer days got you sweating. Do not let your clothes add to the discomfort. Duluth Trading is your go-to for conquering the heat. They've engineered incredible summer tech clothing designed to help you thrive, no matter how high the mercury climbs.

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I graduated from high school back in December. As a gift, my parents got me a cruise. It was also for my 18th birthday. It was also a family vacation. We usually stay at all-inclusive resorts, but I have always wanted to go on a cruise. I told my parents it was different and that if we went on excursions, we had to follow the schedule no matter what.

Well, it was a week long cruise and they would not head back to the ship when I said it was time to go. They were busy shopping and bargaining with the locals. I finally said that I was heading back to the ship. My mom waved me off. They missed the departure by a lot, like 45 minutes. They got ahold of me through WhatsApp.

They wanted to know why I didn't get the boat to wait for them. I wanted to scream that they were not going to inconvenience 3,998 people because two could not understand what a schedule was. They ended up having to fly to the next port from there and it was expensive. They are pissed at me for leaving them behind. I don't know what I was supposed to do. They literally told me that they knew what they were doing. I wish I had never asked for this. They are making me miserable because I left without them." I don't know what kind of power they're thinking. Like, you can stop the boat.

But also it's like, okay, that person is 18 now, but they're still the adults in the situation. Like I'm, are we kidding? Also you had to buy expensive tickets from the port that you got left at to the next one. Aren't you glad you only had to buy two and your kid got on the ship? Yeah. Because otherwise you would have had to buy three. They're adults. They can, they should know better.

I'm sorry. How is it your child's fault that you missed your own like port time? Yeah. And like, who do you even go to tell on a boat? Like stop the ship right now. I mean, you can't even stand in front of it. Like it's a bus. No, you guys, this is really bad too. Like I feel like when people fall overboard, they can't even stand in front of it like it's a bus. No, you guys, this is really bad too.

Like, I feel like when people fall overboard, they can't even like stop it that fast. It just keeps going. Well, also... I just don't know if they would. I do think it's the original poster's fault for wanting to go on a cruise. Hey! Are they... I fuck with cruises.

They're fun. You do? I know it's like a floating Petri dish and they're... No, I don't even... Well, yeah, maybe a little of that. It's... I just don't need to be like stuck... Like there's no exit strategy. Like I'm not rich enough to have a helicopter come pick me up.

Like it's like you're committing to the people you're with. But if you go with like the right group of people, I think a cruise could be something so fantastic I Don't you don't have to repack every time you go to a new location Like all the food is included Like you have a whole room full of stuff, but you're going to all these different countries I don't know. I think it can be you got a pool on the deck

Oh the pool the drinks. Oh, the pool, the drinks, the all-inclusive food, the dance competitions, the water slides, the musical performances. I wanna be a cruise person. I just like am not that kind of person. I never thought I would. I just, I've done like mini-year cruises that have maybe like 300 or 500 people on it.

And like that was doable. I just seeing the same people every day and like when they get on your fucking nerves, it's just like... See, I want to go on a big cruise where I make new friends every day. See that's my nightmare. You'd be really good at that. I want Carnival to sponsor me. Virgin Atlantic, whoever's got a ship, I will go on it.

I will record an episode there. Delta does know. Delta has cruises. That's all you had to say. They've been emailing me about this giveaway I've been trying to enter every day. I wanna go, I wanna be on a boat. I never thought I'd be a cruise girl.

I thought it was my literal nightmare and I've been seeing really good promo. Put me on the boat. Yeah. I'm a boat girl, not a yacht girl, a boat girl, a cruise girl. Okay, period. Yeah, I think a lot of people though don't fuck with cruises. And I think like, they recently just laid off a lot of people or something.

There was some kind of article that came out recently about cruises like not having as much staff as they used to. And there are already so many things that happen on cruise ships I feel yeah yeah but that wouldn't happen to us because that's not like you know what we put in no universe I don't think it and we wouldn't get left out of port yeah no we wouldn't we would be smarter than that yeah we would shop and make the boat in time not the asshole right yeah where Yeah. Where are we falling? Oh, not the asshole, not even a little bit. Oh, that person's not the asshole at all.

I can't believe this is even a question. No, didn't even do a single thing. His parents blow. Top comment, you're the asshole. Oh! What? I'm just kidding. Oh.

Top comment. I was about to be like, so I fucking hate you, Reddit. He was like, what are we missing? No, I really was like, so wow, I've never missed something that colossally. Top comment, not the asshole. They seriously think the ship will delay for 45 minutes? Yeah, no.

The docks and ship have a schedule to keep. They're adults and need to be responsible for getting back on time. Which is something you have figured out in less than six months of being an adult. At least you don't have to go on any more vacations with them after this. Mm-hmm. This, not the asshole, I've been on a cruise. They make it crystal clear that the ship waits for no one.

Parents fucked around and found out. Ooh. Ooh. Planes don't wait for people either. Like, I don't know why they thought anybody would wait for them to begin with, even if they're not used to cruises. All just to what? Pick out, like, some shitty blouse that has seashells on it

that she'll wear, like, once to, like, her weird racist country club? Oh! I mean, we're all thinking right now. I don't... No, I wasn't either. Who said... Shut up. Oh. Jack Russell Terrier Yorkshire pudding thing? That's my dead dog, Holly. Oh. Ohrier, Yorkshire pudding thing.

That's my dead dog Holly. Oh, well, that's amazing. I'm so glad I just had a conversation with her. I always loved that picture. I love the picture. I wish I knew the subject. Oh, just kidding. Well, it's fine.

You're fine. Sure. This is a sinking ship. Just remember the Jolly Rancher story. Bitch, I'm trying not to. Okay. This next one, it's having quite the moment on Am I the Asshole? It's like one of the top trending stories

for the past couple of weeks. Have not read it at all. I'm going in the benign with you guys. So here we go. Oh, let me just wipe my tears here. It's not like actually her. It looks like her, but it's a random off Etsy. Oh, you fucking.

But she did die. I believe that. Oh my God. I need to go home to Delaware. I'm gonna fly home. No. Just kidding. This next one coming from Am I the Asshole? 16 hours old. It is titled, Am I the Asshole for booking my own Airbnb so I don't have to sleep on a couch for six nights? Oh my god. I mean like already no. I'm like if anything like more power to you. Do you have a GoFundMe I can donate to?

I support. My immediate and extended family have booked a vacation for later in the summer. My aunt, who found the place, knew the owner, and they got a great deal. My aunt initially said there are six bedrooms. One room for her and her husband, one room for my parents, one room for my cousin and her husband, one room for my other cousin and his wife, and one room for my parents, one room for my cousin and her husband, one room for my other cousin and his wife, and one room for their kids who are both under 10. The last bedroom you may wonder is where my aunt made an innocent mistake in

miscounting. There are only five bedrooms. They told me that my boyfriend and I will have to sleep on a pullout couch. I told my parents I will have to sleep on a pull-out couch. I told my parents I would rather not sleep on a couch even if it does pull out. I also don't want to make my boyfriend sleep on the couch with me either for his own privacy. It's in the living room which is in the middle of everything. I would rather not be woken up to people starting their day and I would rather not have to change in the bathroom each and every time, or even leave all of my stuff in the living room as well. I don't want to change in my parents' room either because I know I would probably rush so that they can have their own privacy.

I don't want to put my luggage in anyone else's room and fill their room with my clutter. Same goes for my boyfriend. I don't want to make him do all of that either. My family has never had this big of a vacation altogether in such a long time. I would love to be involved and whatnot, but I said I would rather not go if I can't have a room to myself or I'll book my own place nearby and I will pay for my part for the main house everyone else is in regardless. My mom refused both options, as I will ruin the trip

if I don't stay under the same roof. If I get my own place to stay, it will solely be to sleep. I plan to be with my family at all other times and events. I don't care about the price of only getting an Airbnb just to sleep. I want my privacy. Yeah. Haven't mentioned it to my cousins or anyone else yet that I'm

considering getting my own place as close as possible though. Am I the asshole? Easy no again. Like, yeah, I'm like, this is the easiest test I've ever taken. No. Yeah. It seems reasonable. I'm sorry. Maybe I'm the asshole here and have been thinking it since I was fed the information. Why are the fucking 10 year olds not sleeping on a couch? You don't even need to pull out the couch for them. They're 10. That was my question.

They could sleep on the fucking hardwood and be okay. Why are you not getting a little blow up bed to put in their parents' room? Yeah. Why are they coming? They're not going to remember it. Why will they be there? Chris is on that. Fuck them kids.

I just don't get that. My first thought was like they're both under 10. They're still like- They're little. Their bodies haven't gone into decline yet. They are fine to sleep on the couch and again the floor. Outside. On the beach! Kids fall asleep everywhere.

Exactly. Have you seen, like, I feel like I've seen some crazy videos of like, this kid falling asleep upright and she's like, I want a popsicle. Oh yeah, or like when you're little and you're sleeping over at your friend's house, you will find anywhere to sleep. Oh my god, I slept on a sleeping bag on the floor. You'll find anything to keep you warm. Yeah.

You like, you make it work. Yeah'll find anything to keep you warm. Yeah. You make it work. Yeah, you like have vigor for life. Yeah. And I get like, okay, that aunt got the Airbnb and got a good deal. So it's like, oh, well, my grandbabies should have a room. But it's like, they're 10, they might find it fun to sleep in the living room and like, make a fort. Just tell them it's fun. They'll think it is.

Exactly. Just tell them this is such a fun, exciting place for them to sleep. We wanted to save this just for you two. Yeah, this is the biggest room in the house. Because you'll be able to build a fort. And it was the aunt's mistake. Exactly. To put two adult, like a couple.

Yeah, if the aunt made the mistake, take her kids and put them down out back. I mean, I'm sure there's a spot for a blow up mattress somewhere for these two. That's more private. They don't need a boat. They have a couch. I'm fine with a couch. They can, I'm sure there's a spot for a blow-up mattress somewhere for these two. That's more private. They have a couch! I'm fine with a couch. I sleep on a couch. I just slept on a couch two nights ago. There you go.

Yeah. I mean, it was a very wide couch and it was very luxurious, but... A couch nonetheless. It was a couch nonetheless. Yeah. And I slept like a literal 10-year-old baby. I feel like you should always prioritize the adult sleeping. Like... 100%. I just, I don't know why I'm like two should always prioritize the adults sleeping. Like 100%.

I just, I don't know why I'm like, you've earned that bed. You've earned that flexible. Have you guys ever had like weird Airbnb trips with friends where like you get the short stick and you're in a room that doesn't have blackout curtains? Um, that's like quite specific. I was like, um, maybe? I was so ready to say yes when you started that question, but then you made it about blackout curtains specifically.

I know, and then I was like, I don't need blackout curtains for the record. Like, I sleep with my curtains open. I do like blackout curtains, but then I won't, like, wake up. Yeah, it's like when I go to Vegas, I wake up at like 2 p.m. and then my day's over. You're both telling me you don't have... It just means when we travel together, Yeah, it's like when I go to Vegas, I wake up at like 2 p.m. and then my day's over. You're both telling me you don't... It just means when we travel together, you can get through them with the blackout curtains.

But how... Hey! I don't need blackout curtains. How do you... The sun comes up at like 5 a.m., 6 a.m. Right. And I ignore. And like I wake up naturally instead of having an alarm beep at me.

Oh, I can't have an alarm wake me up No, I would rather like Take I think it's so like the industry Did a lot of bad shit, but alarms is one of the worst Yeah clocks and alarms is one of the worst you have to find a better alarm sound no No, I just like don't need to wake up to an alarm Yeah, if I know that I woken up the sign Yeah, and if I know that I need to wake up at 8am, like

my body will wake up at 7 58. Oh, no. I mean, if I know I have to be up, I'll set an alarm. Like that's the last resort. But like, you two are crazy. Like working from home, I just kind of wake up and also my dogs wake up too. So like, you do have a built in alarm clock with them. I'm like sort of usually up and out of bed at like 730 Pretty right. That's crazy. I need to be woken up by an alarm. That's a beautiful morning person Yeah, I mean like I'm still like a dreadful person in the morning. See I'm like I Just wake up early, I guess that's insane It's kind of nice though because a lot of people are still asleep and no one can bother you

Like I really it's why I like working at night. That's why I work because yeah, everybody's asleep and you can just like lock in Away by this I If the Sun wakes me up, I'm pissed. I love to be woken up by a peaceful alarm clock What a piece peaceful alarm clock is an oxymoron My phone has the sleep thing and it slowly gets louder. So it's like this little twinkle. It's like, it could be any like lovely sound in the world, but if I'm associating it with this wakes me up, it will become the worst sound in the world. Exactly. I'm terrible. If a person wakes me up, I get mean. I get crab mean. Oh, I punched my mom in the face before. I wasn't awake to know I did. Oh, sorry.

Like, she was bothering me. She was waking me up. I was like living at home still. My mom was being a bitch. No, she wasn't. She was like, Chris, wake up. And I guess I punched her. And I came down and I was like, hey, what's up? I mean, not that happy. I was like, good morning. My mom was like off and I was like, what's going on? She's like, what do you mean? And I'm like, what morning. My mom was like off and I was like, what's going on? She's like, what do you mean? And I'm like, what do you mean?

And she's like, you punched me in the face. And I was like, well, that wasn't me. That is someone like you. Yeah, right. I would usually punch my brother in the face. This is why you need to use alarm clocks, people. It's safer. Moving past this, I feel like I need to put a poll though

to the people to be like, do you guys sleep with blackout curtains? And would you rather have an alarm clock? I don't know. I'm frazzled. Do you wake? What time do you wake up with blackout curtains? I set my alarm for 9am. So then why have blackout curtains? Yeah, you're going to wake up that time anyway. Because then you're awake and your room is dark, so you're like, I'm actually still asleep. It's very confusing to your body.

The sun comes up so early and goes right in my window. Two hot takes, more like one hot take. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Anyways, what are the top comments saying? Top comment on this one, not the asshole. I would get your own Airbnb. Why can't the kids get the pull-out couch? Are you expected to pay your fair share?

What would that be? Is it per family, person? Like, are you expected to pay the same as all adults, but the kids get a room? As for mom, how will it ruin the trip? And if she feels that way, is she willing to take the living room? I think not. It seems your aunt's whole family gets the main rooms. Maybe suggest to your mom that she might like to Airbnb with you and your boyfriend where if they need quiet time, they have a place to do so. Mom is probably saying the trip would

be ruined because she would be the only one from her part of the family if you do not stay there. Yeah, get her in your Airbnb. I think that's actually a great idea. Yeah, threaten it. And then you, your side of the family doesn't pay for that house. And then all of a sudden the aunt's like, no, no, no, wait, I want to split it. The kids can not come.

Yeah. OP does respond to this. My aunt who has planned slash found this house and the young children are her direct bloodline, so I guess they have the upper hand over me? My mom is sisters with my aunt who booked it, but the young children are my aunt's sons, so I guess that trumps my 24-year-old ass. LOL. Per person pays. I will be paying the same as the adults. I don't mind still paying to keep the peace, even if I get my own place to sleep somewhere else.

My mom's always been like that. Wonderful woman, but perfectionist, I guess. She always says how the family has to stick together and bullshit. I don't know. I'm close with her, but it's annoying to hear LOL. I feel like because she planned the trip, she should be more likely to let someone else have the room. Yeah, be more hospitable. Yeah. I feel like it should be the opposite. She's not a great host. Well, everyone's paying the same,

so it's like, why is anyone else more entitled? Like, again. Especially being too nice. 24-year-old adult couple. I would say, fine, I'll take the couch, but I am paying 25 cents. Yeah. I would, I would get a little snarky probably.

I'd have a hard time with this. I'd be like, I actually bought an eight bedroom house next door. So you guys have fun. Absolutely goofy. I just don't understand. Like that's like hosting a dinner party and not having enough chairs and then telling someone that they have to like sit on the floor. It's like, no, if you're hosting that you sit on the floor.

And they have to pay. And they have to pay. The table price. They have to pay for a plated seat. No update from OP. No update. Couple comments, but I cannot gather an inkling on what they are going to do. So, OP, if you're out there, we would like an update. I mean, I'm assuming because of how big of a people pleaser they are, they are just going to sleep on the couch.

Wow. I hope not. I mean, yeah, them offering to still pay the same thing, like that just shouldn't be happening. But at that point, if you're already going to be paying for the house, just make everyone regret making you have to sleep in the public room. I would leave my dirty underwear everywhere. I would maybe rub some fresh shit on the floor just for effect. It doesn't have to be shit.

It can be pudding. But you got to be shit, it can be like pudding. But you gotta like scare the people into thinking like, wow, we really don't need them in a public space. Oh my god. Get them in the bedroom. Yes! Get them in. Have gay sex on the couch.

It could work. Just at seven in the morning. You won't be sleeping on that couch anymore. Or maybe under that roof. So a win is a win. I mean, we had a stepmom and a cousin. Girl, I don't know why we have to keep bringing up that episode. That is behind us.

Still fresh for me. Oh, it's... No, I feel like go get your own place. Yeah. Go get your own place. You're an adult. You're 24, especially if you're willing to cover it. Don't let your mom guilt trip you.

You got it. Yeah, 100%. Get your own spot. You're an adult. The aunt sucks though. Aunt's a fuck person. You think? Do you think it was malicious? No.

It's just like it was malicious. I just think she's a bad host. But also like getting mad for them, like not wanting to stay there is weird too. The mom? I think that, I mean, that being the mom, but I wonder if this was the aunt being passive aggressive where it's like, we don't want them to have sex.

Like, we're gonna put them on the couch. Just because the aunt's not having sex anymore doesn't mean she has to ruin it for everyone else, damn. Just because your husband doesn't want to have sex with you, that's not everyone else's problem. I could see this being a bit malicious. That's crazy. I could see it.

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You have some stories out here. Am I up? Am I up to the plate? You might be. Guys, I'm so nervous. I've collected some stories today. And will they be okay? I don't know. Oh my god, wait, what?

Was I supposed to collect stories? Yeah, you're up next. Yeah, you're the next one. But I'll go first. No, I'm just kidding. No, you're the cutie. Oh my god, I felt like I was in high school all over again. Jesus fucking Christ. That was so scary. I was like, oh, I totally didn't do that. I was probably told about that. Okay. Anyways, let's hear these.

You guys, this is from r slash relationship advice. It's also a little vintage. It's a year old. And the title is my 33 female BFF 32 female ditched me on a vacation. We spent years planning after her boyfriend, 30mail, proposed on the first night of our vacation. Damn. My BFF, let's call her Anne, she has a boyfriend, let's call Mark. Originally, we were supposed to take this trip in early 2020, but that kind of didn't happen due to COVID.

We luckily managed to get a refund on the majority of things. This trip served two main purposes. Firstly, for a vacation we have both wanted to do since we were young, and secondly, she was going to see a big chunk of her mom's side of the family she has not seen in over a decade. It was kind of split 50-50, since this was supposed to be almost a two-month trip I personally have been saving for years now. One thing to note is that Anne is fluent in the primary language of where we are vacationing, while I am not. I can talk to some city people enough to get by, but once I leave and the slang and dialect start popping in, I'm lost.

It was just supposed to be me and Anne, however, a last-minute addition was made with her including her current boyfriend of three years. This was more or less dropped on me pretty much two weeks before we left. I was really unhappy with this because, well, it messed up a lot of plans. But I begrudgingly accepted him after we reworked some stuff. However, I told Anne multiple times and her boyfriend that this trip is about us, not Anne and her boyfriend. The first night we were there, Mark dropped to one knee, pulled out the ring, and asked her to marry him. Since then, I feel like a third wheel who is no longer welcome on this trip. This has

changed everything. The trip is now basically about Anne and her new fiance. Multiple times we had a lot of plans, including some stuff that was already paid for, and instead, she ended up ditching me to go spend time with Mark. Tomorrow we're supposed to catch a train and travel for the next leg of our trip, and she wants me to go alone. Instead, she confronted me and said that she needs at least a week to figure out feelings and organize her thoughts. So instead, they booked without telling me some fancy couples thing. Instead, she wants me to go on a trip alone as a woman in a country I

can barely speak the language of. Even worse, I'm basically going to have to show up to some extended part of her family alone and ask to stay there. She said it's fine, but it's really not comfortable at all. I tried to talk to her and she got really upset and told me this vacation isn't just about me. And that hurt a lot. Now pretty much. Well, yes, it isn't about you at all. Now pretty much I'm going to be spending Christmas alone in a country where I don't speak the language. I got pretty emotional and asked her, WTF am I expected to do?

She got really defensive and said it's just a week and we're here until early February. She'll meet up with me on New Year's, New Year's Eve or the day after. My question is how can I talk to her and make her understand that she can't just ditch me without coming off like a major asshole? I think you just say you're coming off as a major asshole. Honestly this is insane. This is crazy. Two month trip and on the first day? That's a major asshole. Honestly, this is insane. This is crazy. Two month trip and on the first day?

Oh. Just, not even that, but like a two month trip and... Some days before you find out that you have a third? Two weeks. Yeah. Which is too late to cancel anything and get your money back at that point. I... Ooh, I feel so bad.

That's not your friend, honey. No. This is honestly, this would be friendship ending for me likely because it's like, okay, you added your boyfriend. Not what I agreed to. This was a two month long friendship trip. Why did you add him? He can't be alone without you.

He doesn't trust you. Is this a control thing? Huh, weird. Okay, let's evaluate that later. Or if he wants to propose, tell him to book his own fucking trip. Yeah. Yeah. Don't capitalize off ours tell him to book his own fucking trip. Yeah. Yeah. Don't capitalize off ours.

Now it's an engagement, like ceremony. It's like a honeymoon, essentially. Yeah. This is weird. And it's just like, that's fine. He came, he proposed the first night, which God, you couldn't have waited until the last night. Right.

But okay, here we are. You still should stick to the plan because otherwise you're leaving me high and dry. Yeah. And I've spent so much money. I've saved for years to be able to do this and you're completely disregarding me, disrespecting me as a person, as a friend. Done. And having to go stay with that friend's family being like, hey, how y'all doing? And having to go stay with that friend's family being like, hey, how y'all doing? Not even hey how y'all doing. The girl whose family it was hadn't seen them in 10 years. She was about to be like, hey, how y'all doing?

What the fuck do you mean a friend is about to meet them when homegirl hasn't seen them in a decade? That's crazy behavior. I always feel so awkward. That someone doesn't see that is like you dodged a bullet I fear. Well, you got hit by it, but like you dodged the second one. I would say so. Yeah, the first comment is, Friendship is dead my friend.

I would accept that you need to rework the trip for yourself and take as a solo trip. She doesn't care for you or your safety and comfort. It sucks, but how much are you supposed to take? Spend the extra money to be safe and hopefully she doesn't owe you any money. If you owe her money, I would keep track of your extra expenses and then let her know you're taking it from the money you owe her. Please update me and I hope your trip turns out wonderful. Pay the extra money and go home. I would still...

Like, no offense. I would talk to like... I'd be heartbroken. I would be... Oh my god, I mean, like, I would be so devastated. It's already hard enough when you're in like a random place you've never been. And then to like go through that. And she wouldn't have like even chosen that area to begin with. It was for the friend. So now it's like, I was only going there for you anyway.

I try to pivot as much as you can. Yeah. I think I'd just go home at that point. If it was Christmas, I would be like, I think I'd just go home at that point. If it was Christmas, I would be like, I think I just take the L on this. Some of the best places to travel to though, like they have like Christmas markets, there's Christmas things. And like to be alone on Christmas while going through the loss of a friendship. I know it'd be heartbreaking.

Like I would almost, here's where I get goofy. Like I would almost do it out of spite. I would have the most amazing trip and it's like, don't do it out of spite, because that's not healthy, but like do it for yourself because- You can do things out of spite. It will.

I don't know, I'm like, what? It will be so magical. Spite has fueled me many years in my life. But this is crazy. Also, what? They just got engaged and she needs a week to think about things? Yeah, wait.

That was like, why do you say yes to getting engaged? Are you thinking about your relationship or thinking about things with your friend? I think with a friend. Yeah, I think with a friend. What did your friend do? I think I caused her stress on her engagement. I don't fucking know.

I don't think this friend seems emotionally sound, but that's just me. Her saying like, this isn't all about you. That's like, that's so insane. Instant bridezilla, like instant bridezilla. But it's also like, you're right. It isn't about me. None of this has been about me when it was supposed to be about us.

That's crazy. And I feel like so... I would honestly tell the girl, I'd be like, let's meet here. Don't worry. No hard feelings. Let's have fun. And then I would send her to some random spandom fucking place and be like, can't wait to see you there. I booked us a hot hotel. I would make a TikTok about it.

Hope that the GoFundMe does amazing and then get another friend to come with me or something. Oh yeah. I like that. Don't you think if you saw like a TikTok of someone going through this, you'd be like, I'm sending them 20 bucks. Yeah. Oh my god, I absolutely would. And then I'd want them to book her wedding venue on her ideal date. Period.

Yes. You say you want to play, girl? I've got to go fund me. Let's go. Signed daddy war bucks. Putting the war in war bucks. I like that. Thank you.

Michaela, as someone that did a little solo traveling yourself. Yes. Michaela went to Portugal by herself. Yeah, I went to Portugal for a week by myself and I did enjoy it, but I was like, I could see why this would get lonely and... Two months is a lot. Yeah, longer than this. I think I would...

I think I would go home. I would get like friends sick. Like I'd miss having my friends to hang out with. Yeah. But it is fun for is a lot. Yeah, longer than this, I think I would. I would get like friends sick. Like I'd miss having my friends to hang out with. Yeah. But it is fun for like a time. It's doable. It depends on where you're going to. Yeah.

But also like I went to the place that I wanted to go as a solo traveler. Like I planned it based on the fact that I'd be alone and like looked up what other people liked doing alone. So cool. I give you so much credit for that. That's amazing. It's like a little stressful, like traveling around by yourself.

No, it's like crazy. Because there was like a train strike the week that I was there that I didn't know about until I got there. So like there were a couple of times that the train I was supposed to go on just didn't show up, but everything works out. It's fine.

Everything works out. But I'm here. She made it to London and then we made it back to stateside. So it's all good. Oh's fine. Everything works out. But I'm here. She made it to London and then you made it back to stateside. So it's all good. What? Did we get an update on this? Checking. I'm looking into this. Please tell me we got an update. I will riot. I will shut all these cameras off. The show will be done if we don't have an update. I don't think we do. Because the name of their Reddit account is like throw away. And they're not like responding to any of the comments on the thing.

She just wanted to vent. They have. This is the worst news I've had all day. Yeah. That's their only post ever. Throw RA dash travel. They just made it to vent. I'm so sorry.

What a just horrific ending. Okay, let's write our own ending. Let's see. The girl who got engaged had nodule gonorrhea and the guy had to pull it out and bite it. Because it's stanky. Had to pull it out and bite it because it's stanky. And you put a jelly- Had to pull it out and bite it with no context is crazy. No, the girls that know now, if you don't, you've got some homework to do and you've

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Neutral. Refreshingly simple. Moving along. Let's talk about another proposal real quick, okay? This is also coming from relationship advice. No, I'm sure it'll be great. I'm sure nothing bad is going to happen. It's going to be awesome. No, it's on Reddit. Only amazing things are said on Reddit.

Hey, you had that palette cleanser on your last episode. You know it can be good and wholesome too. That's not the spot behind your eyes right now. Yeah, but you usually sort of lead with that. And I didn't see that. I didn't see you leading with love. It's 10 hours old. Oh, I love a same day delivery. It is titled, My 32 Male Girlfriend, 29 Female, Upset About Proposal.

Oh boy. Recently got engaged and my girlfriend didn't find it special enough. We went over to Monterey, the first place that we did a road trip together, and went on a hike. It was loaded with people because of Memorial Day weekend and my girlfriend actually gets a little nervous around people. I originally wanted to go up to Big Sur and go on a trail that overlooks everything, but when I mentioned Big Sur, my girlfriend said that might be a bit far since we'd like to squeeze in the aquarium.

Instead of choosing another trail, I had her choose one with a walking distance that she was comfortable with, and we basically went on a random trail until I found a spot to pop the question. I gave a little speech and got on one knee and asked her, and she was extremely happy in the moment and said yes. We walked back and the rest of the trip went normally. When we got back home the next day, she asked, what did you plan, just to see the details as she was curious and

still happy? But to be honest, I didn't really have an answer. I booked a restaurant and wanted to take her to Big Sur, but what actually happened was we just went to Monterey and chose a random trail. No flowers, no poster, nothing but the ring. To her, it didn't feel special. She had booked the Airbnb and randomly chose a trail and it basically felt like every other trip we go on. To me, my only requirement was basically that we go to Monterey, the first place we traveled to, and propose at a hike, which was what we did on our first date together. She spent the whole next day crying and said it was her one and only time to be proposed to

and it just wasn't special. It's not like she wanted people there or anything, but just wished that I had planned more. In hindsight, I should have chosen the Airbnb and have been more adamant on going where I wanted to go, but I wanted to prioritize her comfort. Towards the end of the night, she said that she's not sad anymore and it's okay, but I feel terrible. I'm not sure what to do at this point. It just feels like we're not going to be okay, and it's going to loom over her. Has anyone ever redone a proposal or something? I'm just looking for some advice and to see if this has happened to anyone else before. Please help." I don't know. I'm like torn on this one. I am too.

I'm kind of torn because like it sucks that she's having this reaction, and like, maybe he did the best he could, but also I could see being like, oh, you didn't like, plan anything? Like, no part of this was like, I don't know. Like, as far as you got is just that we like, went there before? Yeah, I showed up. I mean, here's the thing, I think, if she wanted it to be major, that's something you have no problem telling your significant other, I feel.

Of like, I want a really special engagement. Like I want the... Like, I feel like friends have dropped shit like that, that I know. Like, I feel like then you say that, but also like... He did try and plan Big Sur, and she was like, no. But you have to push a little bit, I feel, in that situation, if you're the only one who knows that, like, that's why you want to do something a little more special. Like, she can be like, oh, I don't want to leave the hotel, I'm tired.

And then you have to be like, no, like, really should go. It's like beautiful, you know? I guess, but like the fact that there was meaning in Monterey and the trail, like that to me is thought out, but like just because he used an existing trip, I don't think is a negative. No. Because like it kind of makes it fly under the radar in terms of like surprise. And it genuinely is a surprise. Me, I knew it was coming. I wish I didn't.

I genuinely wish I was like thrown, but like I'm an inquisitive little bitch. Like I knew it was coming. I'm paranoid and I get reads on vibes quick. I love that it was a surprise. I do think that he could have pushed me like, no, I really want to go to Big Sur. Like, it's supposed to be really cool this time of year. Totally. Let's go to Big Sur. I do think he could have pushed more, but I've seen it where the boyfriend at the time did push and the girl was pouty and she was like, I don't want to go.

And she wore sweatpants and a t-shirt and that's what she got proposed in. And then she's sitting there after the proposal, and she made the TikTok video about it, and she goes, when you get crabby and pout on your trip, and then this is your proposal outfit. And so it was like her boyfriend kept being like, you should dress up, you should wear those heels,

you should wear that dress. And she was like, no, we're going to the beach. I'm wearing my sweats or whatever it was. And it's like, she got in her own way. She blocked her own blessing. And that's what this girl did, too. Yeah, I feel that I'm very underqualified to give an opinion on this because I can't even emotionally comprehend the headspace of getting engaged to somebody.

No, totally. And like what comes with that. But also, like, shouldn't it be about their love? Yeah. Yeah. But was it? Like if you're in love with someone, they should be able to propose at home

and you should be fucking stoked. Like. Well. But I just feel like. I mean like to me I'm like if. It's not about. Yeah, it's not about how, obviously. It's great when you're like somewhere sexy and you're looking sexy and you're, you know,

like, that's obviously ideal, but isn't it at the end of the day that like, someone wants to get married to you and you want to get married to them? A hundred percent. Of course, but isn't it also nice... Yeah, you terrible people. Isn't it also nice though when you like make that life-changing decision to be like, wow, and like he did it in such a special way and he knows me so well. And like it was such a magical moment.

And he really thought through like how it would feel for me and like, you know, X, Y, Z. Like there's also, I can understand. It's not just like totally materialistic to wish for like there'd be flowers or like written on the sand something or like something more of a romantic, a little bit more effort. Totally, but it's not like it was lacking romance. Like there was sentiment behind it and like. But if you always go on hikes with someone and then they just like proposed you on a trail one day, is it like really that special?

Sorry, nevermind. I don't know. If that's their thing, but if that's their thing. It's a hard one. Yeah. It's definitely a hard one. And like, I'd be curious to know what conversations they had about proposals before. Same, that's what I was just thinking about.

Like, this is the ring I would like and you know, I really envision getting engaged on like a really fun trip we take like in Paris or whatever. Like, or like, oh, this friend's engagement looked like so lovely and special. That's what I mean is like, if there was none of that, then it's like... I don't know, you don't get what you don't ask for. I know. And that's what I'm like, I'm like, did she block her own blessing? Did this guy just kind of go AWOL and like went off script? Like I am curious about more detail.

The guy gives people pleaser just trying to make his girlfriend happy. I know. Well, he's talking at the end here, I'm not sure what to do. Like, has anyone ever done a re-proposal and redone it? He's not an asshole at all. And I think, like, he's a nice guy and doing the best that he could. And it sucks that this, like, happened this way. To cry all day. Yeah.

Ma'am, you got engaged. Like, be happy. I think there's so many people that don't get the ideal proposal. Like, because it's not... But everybody has such a different idea of what an ideal proposal is. Exactly. And they're so... One, I think a lot of us, like, we get in our own heads.

We're kind of, like, overthinking it. We've made the proposal, like, more for Instagram and less about you as a couple. Totally. Like, there's a lot going on there. And I myself can be guilty of that. Like, I told Justin I wanted a photographer hiding on there. And I myself can be guilty of that. Like I told Justin, I wanted a photographer hiding in the bushes because I wanted to commemorate it. Like, but am I feeding into that? Maybe a little.

But you still said what you wanted. You like gave clues. Granted, some of them might've been just very direct, but like you still like, I feel like you better have a foot job at Brotherhood. When I turned 30, I was like, I want to do this and I want to like, I just think like if she, if he had never heard anything about what she wanted, she can't really be mad then because she never made it a big deal. It was never a big deal for her. So why is it now? Do you think she might already just be a little unsure about him? And that's what's at play here?

We're going to get into the comments. I forgot that there's always like comments and stuff. But I do want to say like, I think proposals are one of those things that are really interesting for me because it's like, this proposal is about the person that's getting proposed to, right? So it should be what they want. But at the same time, it's also what the other person wants and how they wanna show the love and the care for that person.

So I hate to be like, well, the proposal's only about her. She should have gotten what she wanted. It's about them and their love. And this was thoughtful. I wanted to be in Monterey where we first went on a date, where we first blah, blah, blah, blah. Doing what we first went on a date, where we first... Doing what we did on our first date. Like that feels thought out to me. Like, yeah, did he not pick the Airbnb? Sure.

I know people are probably screaming. Like if you've been here since the beginning, there's a story that Justin and I had and it was like this couple got engaged and it was like in their apartment and set up candles everywhere. And that was their proposal. And I was like in their apartment and set up candles everywhere and that was their proposal and I was like an apartment with candles Being on the other side of this now I'm like more in like the hopeless romantic boat where it's like do what you want to each their own if 100 candles in your apartment is what you want do it Unfortunately, this isn't what she wants and I'm scared to get into the comments, but here we go.

Yeah, I'm really interested to see what the comments say. So top comment. We can all speculate about the kind of person that would be upset for the kind of proposal she got. Frankly, I agree with many comments that said that the real issue at hand is your lack of planning. The thing is, to be known and to be understood, truly understood is the highest form of love. No, it's not being clairvoyant, but it is to

understand and know a person, and understanding and knowing a person surrounding a significant milestone is a pretty big deal. Your girlfriend isn't upset about the proposal. She's upset that you didn't know her well enough to know what she wanted, even if she can't articulate that. That's what she's expressing. That you didn't know her well enough to do something that she would actually like, or perhaps that you did know and just chose not to. The lack of knowing is leaving her feeling emotionally abandoned, and that is ungrounding and destabilizing. When you think you know someone and have a good relationship, only to have a significant milestone like a proposal come up

and be slapped in the face with the reality that your partner either doesn't know you well at all or doesn't care enough to show you in the way you would like, that doesn't feel good at all. This is like, intense. It takes that. I'm like, just a reminder, you don't know them. Like what?

It takes what should be a very happy and monumental occasion and causes you to reconsider everything, which I guess is what she's doing now. I highly recommend a relationship counselor. At the very least, take some time to reflect together about your mutual goals and desire. The fact that you care enough to make a post like this suggests that you're a pretty good person who cares about the relationship and your partner. I strongly recommend a couples counselor. But this is where I'm struggling is because yeah, he clearly fucking cares about doing

right by her. And he seems like as shocked about this outcome as anybody. So it's like, was this just something they never talked about? I'm so curious. I mean, I kind of like agree with the comment. Like I think it's dramatic. I think the comments like words it very dramatically. Like it doesn't need to be all that.

But like it's if you've ever had, I don't know, like a family member, like get something for you, but it's something you're allergic to. It's like this feeling of like, oh yeah, technically you were doing something that you thought would be nice for me, but you don't know me. And like you've forgotten things that I've told you. And I know we're doing like assuming by saying that, but it's like to feel not known in that person's thinking

that they're just doing something so great for you. It's like, or like I've told you so many times I hate that that flavor of Crackers and you got me that flavor of crackers It's like you think you're doing a nice thing, but it's actually like more hurtful than doing nothing No, and I totally agree with like the feeling scene is to feel understood but like I Know I'm tough because we don't know the couple. We don't know what conversations they've had. I feel like there's a lot missing.

I wish they explained what they like the amount to the extent they've talked about a proposal. Yeah, because he could have clarified he could have been like, I had no idea that she wanted a special proposal. X, Y, and Z. Yeah, that's I guess I'm going under the basis that he seems like a thoughtful enough person to care. So I feel like he would have picked up on things that she would have wanted had they had the conversation. I know.

Well, this next comment makes some interesting points that like kind of have my wheels turning too. Your original plan sounds nice in theory, but it seems poorly planned. You chose Big Sur on a very busy weekend, knowing your girlfriend gets nervous around people. You mentioned we wanted to squeeze in the aquarium. Why did you encourage plants to go to the aquarium when you knew you wanted to propose at a farther trail and had restaurant plans?

So like, it does seem like it was kind of like this panic where it's like, I have to do it today. And it's like, you could have maybe reached out to the aquarium and said, I want to propose. Is there like a little private area or close to closing? Can we be the last ones left in front of the fish tank? Like, it does seem rushed. I also thought about the nervous in crowds comment and like that being his choice.

And it's like, you know, she gets nervous in crowds and like that she doesn't feel super comfortable in that environment already. Like someone saying, I don't want a public proposal and then them getting proposed to in Times Square. Yeah. It's like, there's clearly a disconnect in some way. But again, that doesn't make him an asshole.

No. And that's why I think it's a hard story. Well, it's a relationship advice, so not like just asking. Oh, oh yeah. So, like... Okay. Real. So what advice would you guys give them? I honestly would...

Redo it. I would redo it. Yeah, like just redo it. I think it's totally fine to redo it. I think it cares enough. Like surprise her with a redo and then just be like, that wasn't the real one, this is. Yeah. Yeah.

And just like let her feel like, no, I do know you. I do know like what you would really enjoy. I can give you that perfect proposal. Like obviously she wants to marry him She said yes, like she had a moment about it, but like got back on board I think they can just redo it and be cute and it'd be funny Yeah Like in hindsight and we can all be our own worst enemy sometime like when it comes to like a super emotional event

Like a proposal like I cry on all my birthdays. Yeah. I cry on like every birthday. It's insane. I think maybe she's like kind of having this come down too. And it where it's like, this is my only proposal. Like I only get this once and it's like, it's not exactly what I would have wanted. Like I don't feel really listened to. So just redo it.

Yeah. Redo it. There's only one comment from OP. We have no update. The only comment is in response to this. When you say you found a spot to propose at, do you mean you found a gorgeous view, overlooking nature and you were standing there reminiscing about your relationship and then you got down on one knee?

Or do you mean you found a level spot in clearing and suddenly got down on one knee in the middle of that? And OP says, top of the hill, looking down at the Monterey Bay, gave a little speech and got on my knee. Well, what was the speech? Yeah, give us the whole speech and then we can figure out if it's nice enough. I would just love to get an update from this that's like we redid it. We're so happy.

We're in love. It was an emotional day, but we're better for it. I don't know. That seems like a really nice proposal. I'm trying to find what Monterey could potentially look like. Sure, but they go on hikes all the time. They're always seeing that. But if that's their thing.

But clearly it's not for her. Gag. But then you're saying they go on hikes all the time. So why is she going on all these damn hikes? But it's not like special. It's like, I don't know, what do you do every day? You need to up the AMT a little bit. Like the aquarium thing.

Maybe I'm a problem. If you have plans to go to the aquarium. Maybe I'm the problem. Reach out to the aquarium. People love- Is this a newer one? Yeah. Six hours old.

Ten hours. Six hours old is his last comment. Yeah, it's 11 hours old now at the time I'm reading it. But I think like people love being helpful when it comes to helping with love. Like Justin reached out to the hotel where we got engaged and was like, Hey, I want to propose. Like, what about this, this, this? And like the girl there was so helpful for him and arranging it.

And like, I think don't be scared to reach out, shoot your shot, see if you can get a private thing at the aquarium, see if they'll let you meet a penguin. Yeah. I don't know, but like send the email, make the calls. Like it's the worst. They say is no, you don't get what you don't ask for. I get no's all the time. And it's like, I always say, except for sex, no is like, there's always a way around.

I like that. You know? Like I want to make it very clear that like in sex, no means no. But like, finding solutions in life? No. No is the wrong answer. I also think we can just, even if they haven't said it, assume people want their proposal to be special.

Yeah. Like even more, like do as special as you can even think of. If you're thinking about proposing to someone. You can get flowers, like. Flowers, I feel like are the bare minimum unless she hates flowers. And have them in, if there were,

if it was the same thing and flowers had been spread in the area that he did it it and like there had been something there I think that would have been enough. And if you're gonna propose outside in nature, please make sure they are real flower petals, not some fake-ass silk shit because that's not biodegradable. Yeah, but do do something like put a little thought effort into it but like if you are gonna propose to someone and you have no idea what they would like, you better start being a detective. You better send them a freaking quiz from BuzzFeed about best proposal, proposal, character I want. I don't care what it is, but you better start researching their friends. You don't even need to go to BuzzFeed. Spare yourself going to BuzzFeed.

In fact, just be like, yo, my dog is trying to propose to his girl right now. And like, he's asking me and I'm like, that goes based off of the person. Like for you, I know that you'd and then just like, let them take over. How do you love me? I don't know. Something so awesome. I want to be on a hike in Monterey. I want to be on a hike in Monterey.

Yeah, apparently that's what I'm getting. Like actually you would love to be on a hike in Monterey. I would love to be on a hike in Monterey. I would love to be on a hike in Monterey. I would love to be on a hike in Monterey. I would love to be on a hike in Monterey. I would love to be on a hike in Monterey. I would want to be on a hike in Monterey. Yeah, apparently that's not what I'm getting. Like, actually you would love to be on a hike in Monterey. If I got proposed to on a hike, I'd be pissed because I don't fucking hike. If they hike all the time,

and she continues to go on them, I would assume that that might feel special. If it's their, like, thing. Chris is passionate. Probably'm not even like fireworks in a blimp. I'm pissed I didn't get fireworks. I'm just kidding. I'm pissed I don't own a blimp. I keep joking with people. I'm like send me up in a hot air balloon. But one of these days someone is going to say bet and put me in a balloon and I'm gonna have to admit I don't want it.

I'll put you in a balloon. I don't wanna be in a balloon. Oh, why do you say it then? Queen. Because it's a dramatic, it's like a, a ha, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,? It's the big word for exaggeration. You're like, um, hyperbole. Yeah. No, no, yeah. I guess, but like hyperbole is more so like, I'm so hungry I could eat a lion, not I want to go up on a hot air balloon JK. Right? It fits the calls I'm on. It's for work. Marketing. You're like, okay. So when you're on a marketing's for work. Oh, for marketing.

You're like, okay, so when you're on a marketing call, you're like, put me in a balloon. I'm down to do anything. Put me in a hot air balloon. Oh, okay. We were missing a context. Yeah. You can't just say, I want to go on a hot air balloon, and then someone would offer it and I'd say no, and then be like, that's hyperbole.

I'd be like, no, I think that's you changing your mind. Okay, I understand that. Put me in a balloon. It's an exaggeration. Yeah. Got it. No, then that is, I think that's you changing your mind. Okay, I understand the put me in a balloon. It's an exaggeration. Yeah. Got it. No, then that is I think that is hyperbole. So we did it guys.

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See in-store or online for details. You got another one down there? Should I bring one out? This is like a shorter one. Okay, guys. So this one is also coming from rslash relationship advice. It is one day away from being a year old Oh, and the title is wait, so it says 364. Yeah, they just 64 days. Oh my god

I've never seen that. I know it's about to be a 365 party girl Okay, my husband 29 male is upset that I 28 female bought a bigger fake ring for our upcoming vacation What should I do? Ooh. I love this topic, like this is so- Ring sizes, I need a debate. Oh my God, take the fake ring and return it to him and say I'm good with this marriage and run with the real ones.

We're about to go out of the country for a vacation. My real engagement ring is insured. However, I don't wear it to swim per our jeweler's recommendation. My husband and I are in agreement about me not wearing my real ring while we're at the pool at the resort. Since we would both like me to still wear a ring, I decided to order a last-minute cheap one off Amazon. Admittedly, I could just wear my silicone band that I normally wear to work out, however, I thought this would be a fun opportunity to order a bigger ring in a different shape. My husband is absolutely livid that I ordered this ring.

He thinks I'm trying to pretend I'm someone I'm not by wearing a bigger ring. Oh no. I'm someone who likes jewelry and flashy things, but I'm by no means trying to prance around passing off the ring as real. I have no qualms saying, oh, it's just a fake travel ring. Plus I would be wearing my real ring the rest of the time

to dinner, et etc. Again, I just don't see the big deal. I'm taken aback by his strong reaction and he snapped at me and is now refusing to talk to me. I feel like my only option is to return the ring and buy one identical same size and shape as my real ring. Am I overlooking how he feels? Should I just buy a fake identical ring? Oh... He's clearly feeling a little slighted, a little, well, damn, my ring I got her ain't good enough. But why are you thinking that about your spouse

or your soon-to-be spouse? Like, if that were... If you're engaged to get married, would you not be like, if they didn't like the ring, they would have told me? Are they engaged or married? And now this is... Engaged, I thought. Um, they're married. My husband, yeah. Does it say how long they've been married?

I feel like it seems like they've been more recently married. Okay. That's just the vibe I'm getting. I'm sorry, if you're married, that's even worse to be like... Yeah, it doesn't say how long they've been together. why would you think the worst of your partner thinking like they're so unhappy So they bought a fake one off Amazon. They were unhappy babe. They tell you that they didn't like the fucking ring I know this is another one. I'm torn on Really divisive once I know we're having like

Tell her husband to suck it the fuck up. I do see it being silly right? Where it's like it's a fake ring. I just want to have a little fun. Like it doesn't take away the meaning from my ring you got me. It's like playing dress up. It's a travel ring. It's whatever. but I could see if this was like something like that. He worked so hard to get her like he spent so much on this ring and it was everything she wanted. And then she just goes ahead and buys this fake ring.

That's even bigger and more extravagant than it would almost maybe feel like what I did wasn't good enough. Not if you're fucking secure when people know some insecurity. So, but why is that her problem? isn't good enough. Not if you're fucking secure. When people… But he's not. There's some insecurity here. But why is that her problem? Like, if he has insecurities, go to a therapist like a normal fucking adult. When people get a fake ring, do they usually get like an identical one? Because I guess my thought process is how hard would it be to always have an identical

ring to your real ring? Like people probably… My friends… … all the time have like a slightly different ring. Yeah. But I don't know. Two of my best friends got married. And I'm'm gonna ask them because she got a fake ring. I got a travel ring.

So mine, I went a little smaller than my real one because my real one like, one I had a friend scare the shit out of me. My friend Richa, I like went out, we did like a girls brunch somewhere around LA, like shortly after I got engaged and she was like, oh my god, your ring is gorgeous. But like, you cannot wear this traveling. You cannot wear this like going out certain places. And I was like, why? And she was like, my friend literally just got jumped for her ring. And so she really scared me. And so like, I ended up ordering a travel ring. And it was like a little smaller,

different shape, like different. Justin didn't care. I don't think he would care if I got a bigger one either, but like I did something different and not so flashy because I don't want to draw attention. If I'm wearing a fake ring traveling, I don't want to draw attention to myself. I want to feel safe.

I don't want to get mugged or jumped. So someone takes my ring because they're not going to know if it's real or fake walking past me on a sidewalk. They're going to punch and then ask questions later. Yeah. The one thing she says where I can see like that side is her being like, I thought this would be a fun opportunity to order a bigger ring in a different shape. Like that does kind of make it seem like she might like this other ring more or like maybe her attitude about it of like being so excited. I could see why that could kind of bother him.

But at the end of the day, I'm just like, I don't know. I just don't think it is that deep. But again, I'm not like someone who. I can see both sides where like it's not that deep. It's dress up. It's her having fun. They both wanted her to get a fake ring. Yeah. Okay.

Let's say she got a Birkin. He gave her a real Birkin, a black Birkin, silver hardware. Classic. Just a classic. Okay. And she's like, I'm going on a trip. I don't want to ruin this one. So I'm going to get a fake Birkin and she gets the Himalayan crocodile.

But it's fake. But it's, yeah. That's not her saying, I don't like the bag you gave me. That's saying I have the opportunity to get a fake one. Why not have fun with it? That's why not be, like, is it not just fucking dress up? Well, I think that is what she's doing. If she wanted the fucking ring she's ordering,

she would have asked for it. Yeah, yeah. No, I do think that that's exactly what her mindset was. Like if she wanted the fucking ring she's ordering, she would have asked for it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I do think that that's exactly what her mindset was. It's just like, oh. She's just like, hee hee wow, how fun it'll be to have a fat rock in my hand. I need a fat rock, but like, wow, how fun. I bought a fucking fake engagement ring off TikTok because I'm like, how fun to have an

engagement ring. Just like, but it's just like, it's like buying a wig. It's like, I don't hate my hair. I just sometimes want to play around. No, I'm fully on board with like, I texted my friends who did they respond? She said she got pretty much the exact same one. Okay. Oh, but then I asked if you got a bigger ring, would you be mad or feel slighted to my friend to... Bought the ring. Yeah. Okay.

This is good research. I was like, I'm filming. They're putting their baby down to bed. So one second on the second question. Okay. I will say like I'm fully in the boat too of like having multiple engagement rings. Like I joke where I'm like, I want to be like Victoria Beckham. I want 15 different engagement rings.

Does she have 15? Yeah. Good for her. Yeah. And some of like one of her rings is worth like a million, which I'm not in that caliber, but like... Listen, she's posh spice for a reason. I know.

I'm saying. But like, I think you can do like one... If your main ring was like five grand, that's insane. My main ring did not cost that. I went moissanite, I was very reasonable. And I think you can like upgrade over the years or you can do like, hey, a push present, here's another ring.

Like I am fully on the board of you can have multiple and have it not take away meaning from the original. I'm trying to put myself in that head space of like a ring being so, so special and like representing so much. And then it's like, would it mean something if I got like a bigger one as a fake version? I don't know, I don't know.

It depends. My reaction is no. But I'm not- I mean, have you seen the TikTok trend where like this person stops girls on the beach and is like, how much does he need to spend on your engagement ring? And some girls are like three months salary. And so it's like, okay, if I would be pissed, I'm putting myself in this shoe. If I spent, I don't know, 15, 20 grand on a ring for Justin, three months salary, and then he was like,

meh, I'm going to, I don he was like, I'm gonna try something new. I'd be like. But she wasn't saying I wanna try something new. She's like, we're going on vacation and I don't wanna bring my real one. Like essentially like I'm playing dress up. She's not like fuck the ring. I don't wanna be seen in public wearing that.

That is true. Like if she was saying that, I'd be like, that's horrific. And this is where you need to have a conversation and ask him, where do your feelings really lie, babe? I also think his reaction of like snapping at her and now refusing to talk to her. Not talking to her is crazy. Like that's too much regardless about the situation.

That is crazy. My guy friend just got back to me. He said, yeah, he goes, I bought the fake too, lol. So did not apply, but I don't think I would feel slighted or get mad because I know she doesn't really care. Obviously she doesn't want a piece of sand for a diamond, haha. But she's not into having it be a boulder to show off. And I know... You can't read the rest? No, just because it's like a friend dynamic. But yeah, I just...

That's good insight. I just um, yeah, I just, I just don't think comfortable. That's what I'm saying is like, if you're married, this shouldn't bother you. Because if it did bother any party, they would hopefully say something. Exactly. And you should be able to have a conversation to be like, Hey, it hurts my feelings. It feels like my ring isn't good enough. Like, not even that. Hey, do you like the ring I got you? Yeah, why? Oh, okay. I just thought you buying a bigger one meant you maybe didn't.

Communicate. Done. Communicate. Like oh my god. Oh my god. I forget there's always follow-ups. Do we have... well like I was gonna read the top comment first. The top comment says does he just think you're not impressed with your ring and is trying to mask his hurt feelings by acting angry? I don't really understand why you need to wear a fake ring at all, but it makes sense you don't want to lose your ring.

So they kind of just answered why she needs to do it in that question. But yeah, I know I was like, um, what? Which like, I mean, also kind of like why I don't know, like that is a good question of like, why do we feel the need for fake rings? Why can you just not wear it? For me? I like having a ring on I like Literally in the elevator at one of the places we went to in London Someone was like are you trying to have a good time tonight? Are you single and I literally just held out my hand and it was like okay done. Thanks. Leave me alone

It is such a nice like totally leave me. Like people wear fake engagement rings all the time. It's very like easy to understand why someone would want to wear a fake engagement ring. What's that big word? Hacked? Harassed? That's one. Heckled.

Heckled. Hmm, that as well. Oh. I was thinking of a much bigger word. So we don't have any responses from the OP. Are you kidding me? But a jeweler weighed in. Let's go. The jeweler said me? But a jeweler weighed in.

Let's go. The jeweler said, I am a jeweler. That's how I knew that tipped me off. I've seen so many arguments over stone size, LOL. OP, this is ego. His feelings are hurt and he's not able to interpret that on his own. So it comes out as anger.

Also, he's displaying anger instead of realizing that you didn't buy a bigger ring to hurt his feelings or point out some defect in the ring he bought. It's not a jab at his income or taste, it's just a silly piece of play jewelry, and that's allowed. You're allowed to have a for fun ring to wear. I have a couple too, specifically for travel, but sometimes I just wear them because it's fun

and sparkly, who cares? Have a sit down with your husband, give him a safe space to air out his feelings, no judgment. He's allowed to have his feelings and he can figure out why he's having such a negative reaction to something that doesn't mean anything to you. But just because it's not sentimental to you and your real ring is, doesn't mean he knows

or views it the same way. If you made a big deal in his eyes about how nice your fake is, he might be hurt that you might have regrets about the genuine one. He needs reassurance that you're invested, but you're fully capable of being present while also enjoying sparkly, temporary things.

That you know the ring that's between the two of you is special and exactly what you wanted. I have long believed that the real value in jewelry is in the sentiment of the humans who own it. If the fake goes missing, oh well. But if the genuine ring went missing, broke, or stolen, you'd be heartbroken. We give jewelry to people who are special to us, to mark occasions, to express love or congratulations.

There's so much behind that a travel ring could never. But that's like what I'm saying is like, I'm literally I'm just like this husband blows. Yeah. Like she's having fun. She's dressing up for she's just having fun. If she's to dress up for Halloween for a character that has a big ring, is she only allowed to wear her engagement ring?

Yeah. Like that's essentially what she's doing is playing fucking dress up. That's a really good point. It's like, just go to therapy. And that is like, at the base of this, they need to just communicate. Like this is coming from relationship advice.

He needs to communicate. Like hey, he does. And I think there's a lot of times in life where like, I know myself, like when I am just like overwhelmed, I can get kind of snappy and shut down and like not react in the way I would ideally want to with a rational mind. But you know- God, you're so flawed.

You're pointing out so many flaws today. I told you, I told you I'm no saint. I am not a saint. She gets sappy. But like, I think, honestly, and this is a generalization, but a lot of men are not in touch with their emotions. A lot of men are not taught it's okay. Who knows that?

To be in touch and like be hurt. So for him, it's like, I can't be hurt. I'm going to be angry and I'm going to ignore her. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I had no idea. I know. I thought men were more in touch with their emotions than women.

Technically, I just learned this recently. Men and women are equally as emotionally intelligent, just in different categories, which I don't think that's... Okay, but some people train that shit and some people don't think they have to. Yeah, I'm like, I don't think that's rain that shit and some people don't think they have to I'm like I don't think that's like I say I don't know if this is on a patreon episode But Lauren and I get into it. It might be on a regular I don't you guys I blackout all the time on which goes where she's wasted We can dig anywhere I think you know, this is a good lesson to be like

What is the core feeling like we need to give men the feeling wheel. And it's like, you're acting angry, but like, where is this actually coming from? And I know that sounds silly. No, that's what I'm saying. No, that's for fourth grade in the nurse's office. How am I feeling today? Move the magnet. Like, I know that.

Sorry. How am I feeling today? Move the magnet. I know. That's sorry. No, men can fucking grow a pair, not up, and take charge of your fucking life. It's not weird or gay to talk about your feelings or to wash your ass. Grow up, step up to the plate, and shut up. That was a recent discovery. Oh my God, what, the men don't wipe their ass? Well, no, I've known that since starting this podcast.

But like, apparently wiping your butt doesn't... It means you're not an alpha male. No, it's crazy. That does a lot of things. Yeah, like this is a whole thing in the alpha male world. Like, you cannot wipe your butt. The alpha male world. I mean, just say you're a fucking loser and move on. Wait, like, they must, like diseases or something. You would wish, I know.

Like some kind of rash. And yet they're still here. I don't know. There's no update on this one? No, I'm so sorry. I can't believe. You are fucking us wrong. I know.

Dude. And I didn't even tell you beforehand. I know. Oh, I'm like sitting here like, what happened? I need something with an update. I need something with an update. Maybe on the 365th day they'll give an update. You're so real. One year later. She's like, we're divorced and I can finally talk about it. Dude, I need an update. I mean, I feel like that might be a lot of the time why people don't give updates if like things have gotten really emotional.

But I don't know. This doesn't seem relationship ending. He just needs to like speak. I don't know. If I were her, I'd get the fuck out. Oh, if he handles like every disagreement like this. This is how he's handling fucking cubic zirconium. We are cooked, dude.

I mean, what's he gonna do when she finds out she took plan B or something? I mean, God, he might... I don't know. I'm so tired of hearing about men. Well. You're like, well, here we go. Let me see what I have for you.

Let me see what I have for you. Any dogs. Okay, let me see what I got. Okay, I think I'm going to give you guys a choice on this last one. Oh my God, we got a choice? A choice or a coin flip. You can put it to either. Option number one, am I the asshole for canceling the entire vacation when I found out that my stepdaughters deliberately hid my daughter's passport to get her to stay home? Oh my god. Option two. I'm gonna have an answer.

Am I overreacting? Husband says me taking a bath on vacation is unreasonable. I can't deal with any more shitty husbands. I really can't. Or option three, am I the asshole for leaving my friends stranded during a road trip after they repeatedly disrespected my boundaries? Honestly, the last two feel exhausting.

I love the idea of the first one. The passport. That sounds really good. It sounds very special and unique. OK, thank god. I mean, but do you agree or? No, I do. I do think they all sound great.

Oh. I do think. If you have a strong feeling about two or three and you want to hear those, I really defer to you. No, I like the passport idea. Like I need some girl drama. I like it. Am I the asshole for canceling the entire vacation when I found out that my stepdaughters

deliberately hid my daughter's passport to get her to stay home? I was the asshole for canceling the entire vacation when I found out that my stepdaughters deliberately hid my daughter's passport to get her to stay home. Just like no already? I've been married to my wife Beth for five years. I have a bio daughter named Jessica, she's 18, and I also have two stepdaughters named Monica and Leah. They're both 25 and 28. Both are single moms and live with us currently.

I've read Cinderella before. There's been issues about my stepdaughters asking my daughter to babysit the kids. Jessica didn't have a problem with it at first since this is what she does to earn money, but since her stepsisters don't pay her much, she would just refuse to babysit. We worked this out by having my wife take care of paying for the babysitting. I planned a family vacation for three days and everyone wanted to go. However, both Monica and Leah suggested that Jessica stay home and watch the kids since Beth doesn't want her grandkids to come. She can't go to the ball. Sorry. Just saying. They said it's because the kids are used to Jessica and hiring another babysitter would cause issues. And also said that Jessica isn't too fond of our destination. But it was obvious

that Jessica wanted to go. They insisted and Beth offered to pay her double. And there was just a lot of back and forth on this until I demanded they stop bringing it up. We were supposed to go last week, but when everybody had bagged their bags and was time to go, Jessica found out that she didn't have her passport on her. We searched her bag, then went home and searched there. Beth and my stepdaughters kept insisting that we go back to the airport or else we would miss our flight.

They insisted that Jessica just stay home with the kids. They even told the new babysitter to go home because she was no longer needed. I refused to go and kept searching for the passport until Monica admitted that she helped Leah hide Jessica's passport to get her to stay home with the kids. I was livid. I tried to get her to tell me where it was, but she said that Leah had it. Leah denied, so I threatened to cancel the vacation, and that's when they gave it back.

I decided to actually cancel the vacation and blew up at both of them and berated them. They stayed upstairs for a while and Beth refused to speak to me and said that I punished my stepdaughters for worrying about their kids and wanting them to stay with someone they know. I got told I overreacted and ruined the trip for everybody. Am I the asshole? No. That's like cartoonishly evil.

This is biblical. This is biblical greed and biblical evil. To also this line here, I find this so comical. I punished my stepdaughters for worrying about their kids and wanting them to stay with someone they know. Bitch, they know you. They know their mother. Why aren't their moms staying home?

Like, literally. Their moms don't need to go on a vacation. If they can't bring the kids or find child care they're comfortable with. It's giving Casey Anthony. And that's on that. I talk about it on my podcast this week. Clues? Clues, baby. We did an episode on her.

Period. People need to be tuning in to the clues this week. It's an insane case. It blows your mind. I'm sorry. What mom is like, yeah, I'm good leaving my kids at home. That is totally... I mean, like, I guess that's fine.

I'm not like judging anybody who does, but like, if your concern is them being around someone familiar, that's what I mean. Then why aren't you the one staying home? That's what I mean. It's like, obviously moms can leave their kids. No, we're on the same page, baby. Yeah. We're on the same page. After the last couple of stories, I'm like, I have to be clear with my opinion. I'm like, what is happening? I feel also it's like a little symbolic that it's a family vacation and they're trying to push her out of it. Like it's more weighted for them to try to remove her from this type of trip because they clearly don't want her on the family trip.

Also, it's just crazy because aren't they grown? Yeah, how long is he? Aren't they 25 and 28? Yeah. Like, okay, wait. What's the daughter's name? The biological? Jessica.

Okay, if Jessica's minding her business and then both stepsisters are also minding Jessica's business, who's minding the stepsister's business? That's what I want to know. It's clear that they're- Those are moms. Oh my God, they have kids. They have kids. And they're acting like kids.

Mean girls. Mean girls. To steal someone's passport and manipulate the situation so she can't come on a trip, just so she can watch your kids. So she can do you a solid crazy, diabolical. It's nuts. Like Cinderella. And if grandma doesn't want her grandkids on a trip,

that's fine, but Beth doesn't need to be the scapegoat that gets left at home. For them to tell the new babysitter, you can leave. Yeah. You can leave. Yeah. You can leave. They wanted- They're like, she's not finding it. We hid it really well.

Yeah, it's in my pocket actually. They were like creating this situation of chaos to the point where Jessica would be like, okay, well, if the babysitter is leaving and we can't find it, I guess I'll stay home anyways. This is an 18 year old and you are gonna have her watch two young kids by herself for days on end. That's irresponsible.

I think you're being I think we should call CPS. I think you're being bad. Yeah, we should call CPS. I don't like it. How old was this? Two years ago. Oh, did we have an update? Top comment.

Not the asshole. To be honest, I would have kicked your wife and lazy no good stepchildren out right then and there and ended the marriage. If they were 12, I might understand this level of entitlement and immaturity, but in their late 20s, and what the fuck with your wife? She should have roasted them for pulling that bullshit.

100%, because she clearly doesn't care about your daughter. Next comment down. There is no way the wife wasn't in on this too. She absolutely knew the plan. OP needs to ditch all three of them. Wait, that's such a gag because like so true. She knew it was probably her idea. Not Morgan stirring the pot. I have chills.

Morgan stirring the pot and I'm smoking it. She probably planned it. Oh my God. The evil runs deep. Where did they learn that shit from? This is one. Mother. It blows my mind that some people are willing to put up with partners that hate their kids.

Yeah. Like I see this. Yeah, that would be just like a non-negotiable for me. I see this all the time on Father Knows. Like my dad's show, the amount of write-ins we get like from you guys listeners, real people that are like, my dad picked my stepmom over us. He won't come to my graduation. He won't be at my wedding. Like it's like, for what? That's so heartbreaking. This is your kid. This is half of you. Okay, let's go to the account see if we have an update I don't even know my kids yet if someone did that shit to them. I

probably This yeah, my dad was a debut so is unfortunate I did it to us now. It was me. There's no I think there's no update What the fuck they should just be called edging the episode. Oh my god update. There's no update. What the fuck? They should just be called edging the episode. Oh my God. Literally like I'm leaving here with the bluest of fucking balls dude. It literally is. The blue man group looks gray. This is bad. We have two comments from OP. I don't know why they caught us straight but the blue man group. Poor guys just out there beating on their drums. Two comments from OP. One, someone says you should I don't know why they caught us straight, but the blue man group

Two comments from OP one someone says you should kick them out like get them out of your house I want to act like this towards your daughter. I'm afraid this is not an option since my wife co-owns the house Okay, well get a new one. So they've got like many families in that house Right like because both of the daughters also have families They've got like many families in that house. They've got, right? Like, cause both of the daughters also have families. Yeah. No. There's a lot. Wait, are both of them single?

Are they both single mothers? Single moms. I wonder why. I didn't like put that together until now. Because they're fucking rotted. They were evil. They were evil. I'll give them that.

Like they're rotten. Why can't the other parents watch them for three days? That's a great question. Curious about that. So the other comment we have from OP is in response to this. Not the asshole. You don't just have a stepdaughter problem though. You have a wife problem. Morgan said that. I would rethink your current family situation and how your daughter is being treated. Yeah. OP goes, you're right. After seeing where my wife stands in this, I'm beginning to consider some things. What a cliffhanger to

leave us on. I'm beginning to consider some things and then never returns again to leave another comment. To say what those things are that are being considered? Edgine. That's not very considerate. Wow. Is edgine, like, can you use that in non-sexual ways? Yeah. Is that okay? Yeah.

You just fucking edged us. She edged us. We all edged each other. I haven't done anything except sit here and look gorgeous, so. Well, guess what? Next time. I'll look ugly. You get to bring a story.

Really? Mm-hmm. I was, like, totally fine? Next time. I'll look ugly. You get to bring a story. Really? Mm-hmm. I was like totally fine not having homework. I really just feel like it's like the end of class and the teacher just assigned homework and you're like, fuck, I thought she was going to forget. I thought we were good. Edging, trip. I don't know what title that could be.

Trip to the edge of the center. Trip to the edge. Trip to the Edge. Trip to the Edge. On the Edge. It's like a double entendre. What the fuck is that? You've never heard of a double entendre? I was trying to explain hyperbole.

Do you think I've heard of that? But you were right at the end of it all. Thank you. You just explained it horribly. We were just a little lost, but then you found us. Two shots, one bird, double entendre. Two shots, one bird, I kind of stand by. But that's an instant classic, that's like an instant classic.

No, that's like a banger from the start. What's a double entendre before we go? It's like when some- Oh, it has two meanings. So it's like on the edge, but then also edging, you know? I like that. Okay. Trip to the edge. Like, Nicki Minaj uses so many double entendres. There's one song.

Ra, ra, like a dungeon dragon. I don't know if that... No, but like, I love that energy. I love that you came at it with such confidence. She's like, she can say like, I love that you came at it with such confidence. She's like, she can say like, all my shows sell ticks like Boston. Sell ticks, Boston.

Sell ticks like Boston. Wow. So like that's a double on top. Maybe that's not a double on top, but that's what I see as a double on top. We all learned something. I don't know if we've learned fucking anything except communicate to your partner.

My God. Oh. Crazy that that's just the common theme. Always. Thank you guys so, so, so much for being here with me. Where can everyone find you guys? Just Google me, Michaela Oakland. You can find me on Instagram and TikTok at Chris Clemens.

I have my new podcast, Chris vs the People, wherever you get podcasts. We have video episodes up on youtube.com slash at Chris vs the People. And I have a YouTube channel as well. But I guess I'll take your answer. You can just Google me, Chris Clemens. Oh my God, you started it. Like, I didn't. I think I was.

I thought you go first. There was another episode everybody like... There wasn't, was there? I don't recall. Played the fifth! That's so crazy. Sabotage. That's all I got. If you want to see a little more of Chris for free, we did an insane, insane story on Patreon.

It's free. It's one of the most crazy Reddit stories. It's in the Reddit Hall of Fame. It is the Jolly Rancher story. No, it is free, but the therapy that you will need afterwards will not be. Don't send me the bill. Other than that, until next time, guys, Bye!