Two Hot Takes - 223: Dumpster Dive..
Episode Date: July 3, 2025Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-hosts Justin and Lauren!! This week's episode is a S#!t sandwich.. aka we have a good story at the beginning and end but a whole lot of bad in the mid...dle. Like a MIL calling her DIL tacky for asking for help when she's sick. Or a guy who's confronted with his fiancé cheating on him right before the wedding. Lots of OOFs this week.. a true dumpster fire.. let's dive in. Need your thoughts on these ones! How would you handle them? Come to Justin's show!: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/-santi-camille-fleur-sean-massaro-luisa-vox-parkwild-tickets-1381152386969?aff=oddtdtcreator Resource Links: Know Your Rights w. ICE: https://immigrantjustice.org/for-immigrants/know-your-rights/ice-encounter/ https://www.ccijustice.org/rapid-response Partners: Sol de Janeiro :Shop now at Sephora and http://soldejaneiro.com State Farm: Talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can choose to bundle and save with the Personal Price Plan. Bonus Content on Patreon including FREE stories/eps : https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes MERCH HERE ! https://shop.twohottakes.com Send us a letter? Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 WRITE IN TO US!!! https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Index: 00:00 -- Start Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Oh, your other ring.
Wait, do you have both rings?
No, just one ring.
Oh, okay.
What happened to the other one?
The other one's like my travel and like, bop around ring.
Okay.
Because this one's precious.
Nice.
Yeah.
Here we go.
Coming at ya.
It's Wednesday evening for us.
June 11th.
It's been a bit of a hectic, sad, heavy week here in LA. Kind
of felt like a big shit sandwich, if I'm being honest. So this episode is hopefully
coming at a good time to distract everyone and take our minds off of things. I know I
patched it in an episode a couple back, but
really thinking about our immigrant communities, those that are being affected by everything
that's going on right now. And links will be in the description if you're undocumented
and are worried about ICE and just need to know your rights or if you want to help out
and get involved in your community and make it a safer, better
place for others. So check the description if you want to get involved. But thinking
of everyone and just it's not okay what's going on. It's pretty reprehensible. Regardless
of what side you stand on treating other humans this way is barbaric, horrendous. There's no words, honestly, for how I'm feeling right
now.
So, I'm going to try not to cry. And I just want to get into this really crazy fun theme
I have this week. But we do have new merch, and it feels odd to be like, oh yeah, we have
new merch guys. But I've worked on this now for four months
with our amazing merch team, getting it right,
getting it perfect for you guys.
And we are all wearing a little piece of clothing
from the new merch line.
Lauren, what do you got on over there?
I think you can describe it better than I can.
You know cloth words and sounds, and I don't know those.
Lauren is wearing this amazing brown sweatshirt.
Hers is light brown.
I'm in a brown sweatshirt as well, but mine is dark brown.
And the two sweatshirts have two different cuts.
Mine has like a dropped shoulder seam here that you'll see if you're watching on YouTube
or looking on the Instagram, go look.
And then mine is terry.
So mine is like really heavy duty material
on the inside, whereas Lauren's is also heavy duty, but hers has a soft finish. And Lauren's
hangs really nicely. So if you're a curvy gal like myself and you love a sweatshirt
that just like hangs loose and kind of off your hips, the light brown might be for you. And then Justin has our new GAB Gossip T. Cheez-Meh shirt.
And it's like, it's got T-H-T in like blue letters underneath, but it's like super subtle.
And then it's got like a grapevine going across the letters like, haha, I heard it through
the grapevine.
I love it.
The T, the gossip.
So it's been really, really fun to design. but I think it looks like it could be a designer
shirt.
It's actually, I was telling Morgan, because it's my first time seeing it, it's my favorite
thus far.
I think it's so cute.
Thank you.
And that's not even the best part.
Okay.
So we all love like a good customization a fun craft
Especially right now like getting into crafts and like doing cathartic activities is so good for you
So with the hoodies it comes with one patch on and it's just like a standard like staple two hot takes patch
and
Then with the hoodie you get a total of 12 other patches that are all Too Hot Takes related.
So it's our, let's dive in.
We have the slug waiting for an update.
One of our tour tees are heart guys.
So this is like a Too Hot Takes society,
little cherries that are fun.
Maybe my personal favorite, the coconut.
Nice.
Always.
And he says, too, how it takes social club.
Am I the asshole?
So we've got some really fun patches
and they're meant for you guys to like be able to arrange
how you want them.
I'll post a picture of how I think I'm gonna arrange mine
and then you'll see on a final reveal,
like an episode later.
Can't wait.
The coconut definitely was not the asshole.
Just saying.
It wasn't, you know.
No, but it's meant to like be able to do fun stuff
and like I'm gonna hand stitch,
I think some stuff on mine,
like a little like horseshoe.
And I know like chain stitching and like embroidery
is really fun for some people.
So I just really like,
I wanna see everyone be able to customize it
in a way they find really cool.
It's a canvas.
It is.
I love that.
It is.
Actually, so I think it's gonna be so fun. We're gonna have like a little patch party and then
I think, you know, everyone that gets them, we're gonna do like a special, like,
zoom event eventually. And like, if you want to wait and put your patches on with us,
then you could like, we did a tie dye party back in the day when we did our very first merch drop.
I know I remember that.
That was so, so long ago.
So it's kind of reminiscent of that and just giving us all a way to connect and have some
fun together.
But anyone else have some life updates they want to share?
Anything big going on?
I'm just trying to day by day.
Just out here.
Existing.
Justin has a concert coming up.
Oh, that's exciting.
What concert?
Your own.
You're doing it?
Just a little show around here, around town.
Yeah, he's got a show.
Just a little show around town.
So what are the dates?
A date. Yeah. 24 show around town. So what are the dates? Uh, a date.
Yeah.
24th of July.
Where?
I thought you were gonna say my birthday.
I was like, no way.
I don't know how to pronounce it.
Bar-loo-bitch.
And it's free.
It's free.
I'll post a link for the show info
if anyone wants to come. I'll be there. Maybe Lauren will join me
That's the reason they come
You got to support our guy
It's people in the door that's true and we'll cheer we'll cheer loud for Justin, but okay, I'm kicking off my shoes
I'm getting buckled in
I'm getting buckled in. I'm getting buckled in. I am ready for this episode. You guys
aren't matching my energy yet and I'm a little scared for what that's gonna bring. So I in
my head was picturing like fireworks and picturing all those like crazy little noises that you guys show me
that the like little sound effects. Yeah. I think you should add that to that moment. The chipmunk sound effect, alter my voice. No, no, like more of just like like what we usually do when we're
pumped or just like a fake like laugh track or like a fake clap track. Yeah. Yeah! Yeah! Cheers. Okay.
Or it could be the
you know, the Teletubbies intro.
Oh no, not this again. No, no, no.
Nope. We're good.
We're good. Okay.
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You can't do the Teletubby voice with the cool merch on.
You're going to ruin the merch before it's even out there.
No, don't do it.
Morgan, shut them down.
I'm just kidding.
Live your best life.
So I've been saying shit sandwich.
So we're going to do like the opposite of a shit sandwich.
And we're going to do a cronut.
I don't know.
What's a good sandwich?
I don't know what cronut is.
Can I say a brand?
Whoa, what just happened there?
Say a brand?
I can't say a brand.
We'll just say what you're going to say.
Jimmy John's, Ike's.
Yeah, that little Dutch crunt.
Cousins, subs.
Do you remember cousins?
Never. Cousin subs?
In Minnesota?
I don't think that existed. No.
Yes, it did.
Mm-mm. Yes, it did.
See, I lived in Minnesota, didn't see any.
Yes, it did.
Yes, it...
I don't know what that is.
So the opposite of a shit sandwich is like,
if you think shit sandwich, like bad and bad,
good in the middle
This is gonna be good
bad
Good at the end. Oh, that's not what I was talking about. I was talking good all the way through like potbelly
Yeah, no, we're gonna have chaos in the middle. Wait, what's the order again?
good
Bad good at the end. I feel like that's a shit sandwich. That's like a tuna sandwich. They usually call it a ham sandwich.
It's like tuna.
Ew.
I, you guys out there that eat tuna, you're hearty.
You are hearty.
Hopefully you're not seeing anyone right after.
Know what I'm saying?
Okay, Justin apparently really hates tuna.
I never knew this about him.
I think tuna's pretty good.
For you?
Well, like a tuna sandwich, like that's not bad.
For the consumer.
Bring one on a plane and try it.
What happens?
Fresh, just open it fresh.
Does that happen to you?
Just see.
No.
Okay.
Okay, so this first one,
this is coming from rslash off my chest, 13 days days old Titled I fixed my neighbor's sink two months later. He left me his house. Oh my god
I've lived in the same apartment for almost ten years
Quiet place mostly retirees one of them was a grumpy old guy who never smiled and always wore socks with sandals
Are you kidding me right now? Oh my god two months ago. I heard banging and cursing through the wall never smiled and always wore socks with sandals.
Two months ago, I heard banging and cursing through the wall. I knocked and found him
standing in a puddle with a wrench in one hand and a YouTube tutorial paused on his
iPad. The kitchen sink was spraying water like a busted fire hydrant.
I'm no plumber, but I offered to help. Took me an hour, two towels, and one trip to Home Depot.
When I finished, he just grunted and said, huh, thanks.
After that, I started checking in. Bringing his mail up, picking up his meds, talking
baseball in the hallway. He never said much, but he'd nod a little longer each time.
Two weeks ago, he passed away. Massive heart attack. I figured that was that.
Yesterday, a lawyer called me. Turns out he left me his condo in his will. Paid off,
furniture included. Apparently, I was the only person who, quote,
bothered to give a damn. I still don't know what to do with it.
I never expected anything like this. But I guess sometimes kindness
boomerangs in the weirdest, wildest ways. Anyways, be nice to your neighbors. You never
know who's watching or what they'll leave behind."
Wow. I didn't know we were going to start with such like, oh, you're gonna make me cry.
Okay, I can't look at you.
It is true though. I mean, kindness is honestly the greatest thing
because whether in a bad situation, a good situation,
no matter what it is, kindness never hurts.
You'll never be upset with yourself for being kind.
You'll go home and regret if you were mean
or short with someone.
You'll regret that, but you'll never regret being kind.
Also, you never know.
It also makes me think of like even simpler things.
Like this, fixing someone's sink
that's exploding everywhere, that's,
I mean, that's next level, you know?
But simply going out and every day challenging yourself
to give someone a compliment,
because we always remember when we've gotten compliments.
I can think of each compliment practically that I've received
you know, in the last few months.
Oh, I like that jacket or whatever it may be,
they stick with you.
And you never know what impact that's gonna have
on somebody.
Yeah.
And so it, and like, obviously he was doing it
without expecting anything in return,
just being a good person.
And when you're a good person, good things come your way.
Absolutely, I think kindness goes such a long way.
It is one of the most beautiful human things,
like kindness and helping others and just empathy.
And I just think this is a beautiful reminder.
Like the last line here, be nice to your neighbors.
You never know who's watching or what they'll leave behind.
And it's like, you never do something kind like with an ulterior motive, but it's like
sometimes kindness is really rewarded.
Really rewarded. really rewarded.
Never know.
It's just like that story just makes me feel so much because you don't know what people
are going through.
Like even if they look like they don't want to talk to you, even if they look like they're
happy, you don't actually know what they're going through.
You don't know who else they have in their life.
You just don't actually know what they're going through. You don't know who else they have in their life. You just don't know.
And I think it's just so beautiful that this person
took the time out of their day to help someone
and then continue to help someone.
And again, just for no reason, but to just help someone.
And that person clearly didn't have a lot of people
in their life that did that for them.
And so it's like, so it's like sad and beautiful at the same time when you see that like that
person got to end their life with this like kindness in the world, you know, they got
to experience someone who just quote gave a damn.
Yeah, the top comment kind of picks on that to Lauren.
I wish you had been able to know him longer.
Rest in peace to your neighbor, has to feel
a bit weird receiving a gift like that under the circumstances, but you should be glad
that you had a positive impact on his life.
And that's the thing, like the guy said, you know, as you mentioned, like gave a damn,
like someone, the only one to give a damn.
And it's like, oh, like you wish he would have got to experience that relationship longer.
And you know, at least you had some positive impact and OP responds.
Yeah, it's pretty out of left field really.
Little baseball pun because they talked baseball.
A lot of really just positive comments.
Thank you for being there for him.
I had tears in my eyes when I finished reading
it. At least you cared for him. The old guy had a friend in the end. That's beautiful.
Nice to hear something like that these days. Sorry for your loss, but I think you made
a difference.
Next comment. You enriched his life, so he enriched yours financially. I remember a story
of a Hispanic waitress, maybe raised in Mexico, who put up with this
horrible grumpy military vet as if he was her own dad and with the patience of a saint,
got him what he wanted while the other waitresses avoided him.
Later he was gone and she didn't know what happened.
I believe he left her his car and maybe 50k.
May Mr. Grumps be resting in peace in heaven. Amen." And someone comments,
you're thinking of Melina Salazar. So apparently this is a story. Yeah. But moving on to our
next one here. Okay. Nice. Lauren's got the macchiato pants on today. Oh my god. Marked. Onto the next.
Shit stained.
I've never laughed so hard.
Okay, number two for us here.
This is coming from our very own Too Hot Takes subreddit, two days old.
Nice.
It is titled, Am I the asshole or just overwhelmed?
Mother-in-law called asking for help tacky and dramatic.
I'm a 37-year-old female who was recently diagnosed
with a rare form of cancer.
I'll be undergoing an extensive and invasive surgery
followed by radiation.
My treatment and surgery are over two hours away,
so there's a lot of travel and logistics involved
on top of everything else.
People have been asking how they can help, which I really appreciate. My close friend
offered to make a Facebook post explaining that gas cards and food gift cards would be
super helpful, mainly to cover driving costs and to support family members watching our
kids ages 10 and 7 while I'm in the hospital. The post came from a place of kindness,
but my mother-in-law saw it and called it tacky and dramatic. She texted my husband and me while
we were away for treatment, saying she was angry about the post. She also messaged my friend directly
to say she was out of line for posting it.
When my friend told her, my mother-in-law, that my mom, sister, and I all knew about
and approved the post after my friend asked permission, my mother-in-law said, quote,
there are two sides to this family.
She also told my husband and me, quote, this is not the, insert family name, way.
Wow.
That's so embarrassing.
To be fair, my mother-in-law has already been supportive financially.
She helped us out a lot to offset the cost of me taking leave from work while I recover,
which I'm very grateful for.
But this reaction still feels hurtful and confusing.
Not wanting to add more drama during an already hard time, I asked my friend to take the post
down.
She did without hesitation.
But now I feel like I gave my mother-in-law exactly what she wanted—control and silence.
And I silenced someone who was just trying to help. So Reddit, I want to ask, is asking for help like that really tacky or dramatic, even considering
the financial support my mother-in-law has already provided?
Should I ask my friend to put the post back up, knowing my mother-in-law will definitely
see it?
I'm trying to focus on what's ahead, but juggling family drama on top of cancer is
exhausting.
Any honest advice or similar experiences would really help. Thanks for listening.
Damn. I'm pissed.
There's not many things, situations in life where asking for help isn't right.
It isn't, you know, it's like, I think asking for help
is one of the most respectable and respectful things
you can do because, I mean, it can apply
in so many different situations.
I think a lot of people, this is different than the story,
a lot of people get a job and they wanna prove
that they're so good at the role
that they're afraid to ask for help.
And I think there's a lot of times in life,
similarly, that people are afraid to ask for help
because it's shown as like a weakness,
which is why this mother-in-law is,
oh, you can't tarnish this family name and ask for
money.
It's very old fashioned.
It's very weird pride over...
That's what it is.
Yeah.
And totally just so out of her realm because she's not the one going through this very
scary situation and just looking for help on the things so
she doesn't have to worry about all this as she's freaking fighting cancer.
Yeah.
And I don't think there's anything wrong in asking for help.
I do agree, Justin.
I think this mother-in-law is like, you don't air our family business.
It makes it look like we're not helping you and that's embarrassing.
You're asking for money when you have a family.
It's not our family's way.
It takes a village.
It takes a community.
And like, there are studies that show
when someone feels more supported and is more like,
no stress during treatment, especially cancer,
they have better outcomes.
If you have stress, stress changes you and makes you sick on a basic level.
Now add in cancer and going through treatment.
This is not what she needs to be dealing with.
So to have that village, to have people stepping up, who I'm sure are more than happy to do
so because how crazy does it feel for you when you have a loved one who's sick
and it's so out of your control and you want to help, you want to feel like you can make
a difference and make their life easier or better.
Like, we as humans typically enjoy helping our loved ones and making sure they're okay.
So like, it's not like it's burdensome on these other people.
They just send a gas gift card, a food gift card, or they don't.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, how is it tacky?
Yeah.
I think you guys honestly nailed this take.
I agree with, I think, everything you guys just said.
And you guys made a lot of really good points.
It's also just so frustrating to me because it feels so selfish. Like somebody in your family is going through something traumatic, they're
going through cancer and you're making it about yourself.
Literally.
And that's so frustrating to me, especially because we all know that it's not good to be stressed when
you're sick.
It makes it worse.
Yeah.
Cancer or a cold, being stressed hurts your immune system.
We know that.
Like that's a fact.
So it's just crazy that she would have this blow up type of reaction saying it's like
unacceptable.
You know, sure, I could give her the benefit of the doubt and think, you know, she grew blow up type of reaction, saying it's unacceptable.
I could give her the benefit of the doubt and think she grew up in a time where this
is not common for her and she feels like it's a reflection that they're not helping and
that's not the way that her mom and dad taught her.
I could give her like that, but I still think that would be a conversation like, hey, I saw this post up.
I thought we were helping you.
Are we not helping you enough?
Not blowing up being like, how dare you take that down?
That's like to me, so crossing the line and that's what's unacceptable.
It's almost like she is feeling almost that she didn't step up enough because now they're
asking the mother-in-law is feeling like, Oh, well, it's showing that I didn't do enough.
Who knows if she's actually feeling internally like, Oh, I should have helped out more.
I could have.
And now is feeling some sort of embarrassment
out of that.
But regardless, you don't then tell someone
that it's tacky.
I mean, it's not even approaching it.
If you were approaching in a supportive way to say,
hey, I saw the post, I know it's a crazy time.
I would really love to step up
and I would love to help you guys out
with whatever you need.
Just let me know what it is, I'll help out.
And then if that's your coded way
of getting the post removed,
at least you're doing it from some part of decency,
but like it's all in what the motive is.
And the motive here is clearly not help.
It's clearly, oh, we can't be seen this way.
Embarrassment.
But you know what I think it could be too?
I think it could be embarrassment
or it's the fact that she's not getting any recognition
because the help that she's given,
the support she's given financially
isn't on a public display like a Facebook post.
You have all these people on the post being like,
I'll give you a gas gift card, I'll give you a gas gift card,
I'll give you a food gift card.
But it's not like mother-in-law is gonna comment
and be like, oh, well, we already gave you $5,000,
but if you want more, let me know.
She maybe wants recognition too.
Maybe there's some aspect of that.
But I hate, hate, hate feeling like you need to
monitor your life and monitor what you're
doing, especially when it comes to social media.
Like, I've had to block people on social media because it's like, I'm not doing anything
wrong and you need to work on you.
You need to pursue your feelings and really get to the bottom of it.
So like, I've blocked people from my stories because I don't want to deal with it. Well, you know, we've, we had this conversation earlier, but it's like little acts of kindness
can mean a whole deal to somebody and little acts of negativity can also.
Yeah.
And so it's like, I feel like I am pretty, like I'm, I know I'm sensitive.
I'm very sensitive to things that people say I wish I was less sensitive.
But like somebody saying something negative to me when I'm going through a really hard
time that they don't know about.
They don't know what's going on in my life and they say this negative thing to me, it
can change the direction of my day.
I wish it didn't.
And I just think stuff like this when you have people around you who are trying to control
and just like, they are trying to project manage your life to save themselves embarrassment
of some sort.
Like I, that's just such a bad feeling.
It's not, it's not okay.
No, it's like a really, like the way you put that too, like someone trying to project manage
your life. And it's like, literally like the way you put that to like someone trying to project manage your life and it's like
literally like micromanage me you're trying to micromanage me like
Buzz off like just say that we're not related and like move on let me do me like if you're embarrassed just be like
Let's change our last name like I'm a friend me. I'm like unrelated to me
I don't know all past the post. Yeah, go on
If you think I'm embarrassing then just like move along like you don- relate to me. I don't know. Scroll past the post. Keep going. If you think I'm embarrassing, then just like, move along.
Like, you don't have to be attached to my identity.
Yeah. No, husband. I hope husband says something.
I'm excited to see if there's any comments from OP.
Top comment on this one though.
You and your friend should block your mother-in-law on social media.
I hope your treatment is successful and you have a long and happy life.
Next comment., absolutely OP.
You and your friend deserve a drama free zone right now.
Blocking your mother-in-law on social media isn't mean, it's protecting your peace
while you focus on healing.
You're allowed to accept her financial help without letting her police your support network.
Take care of yourself first.
And next comment down that has like the next second most up votes.
She's centering herself in your illness.
When you get diagnosed with cancer, people want to help.
It's a natural thing.
Even if you didn't need gift cards, it allows people to feel like they're contributing in
some way as you go through this really difficult process.
Okay, I did not read any of these and this person is like, it's weirdly like they're
in my head.
Wow.
It also shows how many people love and support you.
She had no right to take that from you.
She made it about herself and prioritized, what will all the people whose opinions I
care about think over you, the cancer patient, and how you actually feel.
In addition, she made you feel terrible and criticized during this already scary time
in your life.
I encourage your husband to talk to her and explain these things to her.
This wasn't her call, it wasn't her business, and it wasn't her place to contact your friend.
I wish you all the best and a full recovery.
Let people show you love in all the ways they can."
Yeah, damn.
Isn't it crazy how us humans, we do that?
Like the people who are closest to us and that we love the most and that we see day
to day, that we care less about their opinions than these random people that are just like
sometimes show up in our life.
Why do we do that as humans?
Why are we sacrificing the opinions and the feelings of the ones we care the most to impress
people who we don't even like rarely talk to.
You know, I think is a great, great example of that is the show Shits Creek.
Because we're now on our third round of it. You know, you pick Shuts up.
No, it's like the fifth or sixth round.
With Shits Creek, they start in a position of just kind of being lost in this hoity-toity world
and not really in touch with reality.
Then it's so beautifully displayed
how then they are in the absolute,
I mean, they're in the trenches of reality all of a sudden.
And it comes to a head when they go out to dinner
for their anniversary,
and all of a sudden they're recognized by
this couple that was in their hoity-toity place with them and all pretend, Oh, everything
our trip to the blah, blah, blah, like all the crazy shit. And they start, you know,
the friends haven't been in their seat yet. So they're just like, Oh, this town we went
to Schitt's Creek. it's such a disaster.
Can you imagine living there?
Oh yeah, Schitt'sville.
And you see them actually stand up and say,
you know what, that's where we live.
And this guy sitting across from you,
that's the mayor of this town.
This is the only thing that supported us
when we lost everything.
We didn't hear from you.
We didn't hear from you at all.
You wrote us off.
And it's so, God, it's just so-
It's like really, we just watched this episode.
Don't remember that episode.
I need to watch this again. It's written so well.
And it exemplifies aspects of what you were
just talking about.
And it's a good rewatch, everybody.
Go start it up again.
You won't regret it.
It's the best.
Yeah, no, it's a really great show. I mean, it's amazing to watch.
Like, I feel like you watch them grow as people throughout.
You watch them go from these out of touch rich assholes to like,
oh, they're kind and they're caring and they're human and approachable.
It's a reality check, the whole thing.
I just am like, I can't get the image out of my head of David sitting in the farm
You've been missing he's like I texted Alexis
David, I've been busy! Oh, it's so good.
Oh my god.
Stitt's Creek is just a beautiful, beautiful, well done show.
I love that the whole Levy family is involved in it too.
It's epic.
I know.
Levy? Levy? Fuck. Eugene?
I don't know.
Oh my god, it's everyone. It's like dad and son.
Let's get Eugene on the show.
Can Eugene come? That's like a dream guest.
See those seats, we'll put you both right there, Eugene. Come on.
I'll take the floor.
You know who I really want to get on?
I would actually cry if you guys didn't let me be here.
Lauren can be on the floor over there, I'll be on the floor over here.
Yeah, you guys, you can come. You know who I really want to get right now though?
Who?
Dakota Johnson.
Is there something, is a movie coming out?
She's got a movie coming out with Pedro Pascal
and Chris Evans and like,
they're on their press tour right now.
And let me tell you about chemistry.
I literally thought you were talking about fanning.
So I was like, this makes more sense.
I have seen those previews.
Her PR clips are so funny.
Her and Pedro were talking about injuries on the job and she starts cracking up.
She's like, I have been injured.
She's like, I got whiplash on 50 shades.
Oh.
And it's funny.
It's funny.
I have been listening to Coldplay.
Okay!
That's all.
The scientist is a bop.
Sorry.
No, I didn't know.
Isn't one of the leads dating her or used to be dating her?
I think they just broke up. So I think I saw a clip of them being like, oh, their breakup, so sad.
And then all of a sudden I'm listening to Coldplay and I'm realizing, I'm like, why
am I listening?
Oh, I started putting it together backwards.
So everything's connected, you know?
The world is a small place.
Okay, moving on to this next one
Buckle up for this one you guys
Not good
Was that too far should I have stopped guys I've been listening to Coldplay I
Had no idea where you're going with it. That's all.
All right.
Let's go on to the story.
I mean, at least you eventually tied it in, but at first I was like, dude, what the hell
is that?
What do you mean?
Oh my God.
I kind of wanted to just end it there.
It would have been really good.
Oh my God.
That was so fun.
That was so fun.
You know what's not fun?
This next one was so fun.
That was so fun.
You know what's not fun?
This next one's not fun.
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Am I overreacting for being uncomfortable with my dad's new shirt? My 19th female dad,
45 male, is weird. Recent years he's gotten into golfing with some of his camping friends
and is starting to get pretty serious about it. Last year, him and his friend bought some Titleist gear, and then shortly after that,
got a hat in the same Titleist font that says, Titties.
I actually thought this hat was super funny and would steal it all the time.
Well, the other day, I came home from work and my mom asks if I've seen Dad's new
golfing shirt on the table. I hadn't,
so I go out there to look, and he's gone a Happy Gilmore jersey and a polo shirt that
was filled with various sex positions.
He had both of these proudly displaying on our dining room table. I was really grossed out. My mom then told me that
my little sister, 11 female, had seen the shirt too. Mom asked her if she knew what
it was, and my sister responded, quote, I probably shouldn't know, and walked away.
I told her that it was gross, inappropriate, and that it shouldn't have been left out
for my sister to see. She responded by telling me that she thinks golfers have a high sex
drive and that is funny and just what golfers do.
Wait, all of this is the mom saying that?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
All of my parents' friends, ages 43 plus, think it is hilarious and are excited for him to wear it. All of
my friends, ages 18 to 21, all think that it is inappropriate and isn't something
a dad with a little one should proudly wear, especially in a campground full of young kids.
My mom says I'm overreacting and that it's not that big of a deal. I know he's a grown adult who can wear literally whatever he wants.
He has a shirt of a stick figure humping the words, fuck your feelings.
But for some reason, this shirt is bothering me.
And my friends have come up with some creative ideas on how we can ruin it.
So really, am I overreacting over this shirt?
I think you guys will be able to speak to this
since you chose your wedding stamps very specifically.
Hey, we did not, did you get a crane?
You didn't give me a crane.
Well, I'm gonna give you a crane
when we get back to our house.
Anyone who has two- I don't know if I want a crane.
They don't look like that.
Anyone that has two eyes that can see straight and they work
Even with one eye you can tell it's not wait. I'm sorry
I thought you can you can you tell how far something is from you subject. I'm sorry
I went to brought it up. I thought I thought it was something we know if anyone actually thinks that I don't think you should be
Driving because you clearly cannot tell how far something is from something else
Oh, it's depth perception. But mmm. Have you seen the colorblind girlies on tik-tok? Mm-hmm
Oh my god, you guys this girl is crashing out over her couch. Oh, I saw like a video
Talking about that but not the video. Yeah, so this girl thought her couch was blue. And so she showed a video of her couch.
Her couch is gray.
Gray, gray, gray.
Wow.
And so she's just finding out that she's colorblind.
And then multiple other women are now posting their couches.
And this woman is like, she's like,
I always fight people about this.
So I figured I'd post it.
Is my couch brown?
Her couch is red.
Her couch is really red.
Can I tangent from your tangent really quick? Yeah. Really quick. Most people look at this cup and call is red. Her couch is really red. Can I tangent from your tangent? Really quick, really quick.
Most people look at this cup and call it red.
But what if I see this cup as my purple
at the end of the rainbow,
I see this directly as purple,
but I know purple is red.
And I see the world totally different from all you guys.
When the light turns, I actually see the color purple,
but I say, oh, I'm at a red light because I've learned that color to be called red.
That's what colorblind people do every day.
But you never know. How would you ever know that you're not looking at the same color
and you just know it as a different name?
I know that wasn't math, but it felt like a little bit too much math for me.
Okay. We can get back to it because I don't want to pull away too far.
Yeah. So do you guys?
No, I loved it though. Yeah. I get what't want to pull away too far. Yeah. So do you guys-
No, I loved it though.
I get what you're saying, but like it's hurting my brain.
Yeah, no, the stamps, our wedding stamps, if you missed that episode, appear to have
two cranes having sex, but I don't-
Making love.
It would never be on a stamp.
The odd thing was it is a stamp for animal conservation.
So therefore.
But I mean, I support the reproductive rights of animals.
Okay.
But there's a foreground and a background and clearly one crane is in the background
and one is in the foreground.
I'll try to remember to insert another picture here of them.
But yeah, they're not doing that.
It's a beautiful stamp.
Here is the picture of this man's shirt. You know, it's not as explicit as I thought it was going to be. Like it's kind of sneaky. It's like the symbols you see when you go to the bathroom,
but doing stuff. I mean, there's some wild positions. That right there, the woman with her legs up
and a guy going down on her.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Oh, interesting, like doggy,
but like doggy from a missionary.
A lot of standing situations.
A lot of standing.
Do you remember I bought a dice
that looked exactly like that when we were in Prague
as an intention to give to a friend
is like a funny joke.
No, sex dice are great.
Yeah, that's nice.
It's like when things are cooling down,
you just roll the dice and here we go.
Helps keep the creativity alive.
Yeah, I just, I thought it would be really funny.
And yeah, I don't know if she ever actually used it.
I think it's probably just a prop, but it's fine.
We should call and ask.
Phone a friend.
Yeah, phone a friend.
What I'm seeing here is a, just a guy that's never grown up.
Yeah.
I like a joke.
I think they're mainly, this shirt could be worn
on a bachelor trip where you're going golfing.
Yeah, exactly.
There's a time and a place when you're a single guy
or you're having a midlife crisis.
You just had a divorce and you're just out with friends
on the boat, but like putting it on your table
for your 11 year old daughter to see.
Calling the 11 year old over.
Like A, you've never grown up, you're grossly immature.
Your wife is kind of living on Pluto
and I don't know,
you're kind of beyond help at this point.
Yeah.
I feel for the 11 year old,
because 18 year old, 18 to 21, it's annoying,
it's weird that your parents are doing this,
but you're at a point where it's like,
it's not gonna have, hopefully it's not gonna have
any adverse effects on you. Yeah. But for an 11 year old, it's's like, it's not gonna have, hopefully it's not gonna have any adverse effects on you.
But for an 11 year old, it's just like,
and the 11 year old is more mature.
It's weird when you're more mature than your parents
to say, I probably shouldn't know,
I probably shouldn't look at this.
You're already understanding that your parents are immature
and have this weird sense of comfortability
around sexuality with you,
that you're already, you already know, oh, I probably shouldn't because this clearly
isn't the first time.
Yeah, no, it's, it felt a little gross to call the 11 year old over and be like, look
at dad's shirt.
I'm so proud.
Like, you know, what the fuck is that about?
You know what energy is giving?
It's giving the same energy as maybe that, but Justin and I had this story a couple episodes
ago where this mom was sending her son her OnlyFans link.
Oh no.
His mom sent him nudes, essentially.
Spread eagle.
And a lot of people were calling it out as like, covert grooming or covert, I'm forgetting
the word right now, it's not coming to me.
And that's almost what this is giving.
It's almost like you're indecently exposing your children to things.
It's just weird.
It's not normal to make your 11 year old come look at this shirt.
And in the similar vein when she'd bring home the sex toys.
Yeah, the mom would bring home sex toys for her kids to play with.
That is so messed up.
Well, like her son and his girlfriend.
It's giving the same energy.
And then she'd be like, did you use it?
Did you try it?
What was it like?
Yeah, she'd give him condoms and be like, does she like condoms?
What kind does she like?
It was a crazy episode.
What episode was that in?
Because it was the beginning of an episode with someone and then you finished the end
with me.
It was a Michaela episode and it's at the end. It was Efron
It was the Dylan Efron episode. It's at the end of that. I watched some of that and he's like, I don't know
I'll put it in the description. Ah, he's
Yeah, he's job. He like reads the same books as me. That's like, like. He's chill. That's awesome.
Yeah, Dylan's cool.
Yeah.
What are your thoughts on this one though?
I don't think, I think that it would be a funny shirt
seeing what I just saw because it's so small
that it looks more like a pattern
and then it's not until you get close up.
So it's kind of more of like an optical illusion shirt
where it's like a gotcha moment. I don't think you need to go through like a midlife crisis or anything
to wear that shirt like with your homies and like just laugh about it. But like adults
only, I don't like that to involve minors in that and try to make jokes about that when
like at 11 it's like, that's not, I don't think how people want to learn about that
part of life. Not the birds in't think how people want to learn about that part of life.
It's not the birds in the bee conversation you want to have.
Yeah.
So I think that's in that aspect.
I think it's like irresponsible and really weird.
But like the shirt in general, like I think that if somebody were to wear that just like
in an appropriate setting, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.
That's why honestly I'm more concerned with the mom.
Yeah.
It's more weird with the mom.
Because the dad is just being like, oh, I just, I like sex stuff. But the mom is like, hey,
go look at that. If you have any questions, let me know. Do you know what it is? Yeah.
That's weird. Yeah. I mean, I think there's ways,
because it is natural for kids to ask questions, but it's like the kids not asking the question.
It's not like you watched a show and the kids saw two adults, you know, making out and then
leading to a room and it's like, well, what is that?
Like this was really kind of awkward.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Top comment on this one. Golfers have a high sex drive is
a new one. And honestly, that's odd. What's odd? Golfers have a high sex drive? For the
mom to say that? That's why your dad has this sex shirt. Yeah, that's... Golfers just wanna
fuck. Okay. No, that's odd.
I thought you were trying to say that comment in itself is odd.
And I was just thinking about that time where we had an episode where I made a joke about
golfers actually being out, being nefarious.
And I'm like, I'm just kidding.
I don't want to give anyone anxiety about that.
And then a bunch of people in the comments were talking about how there's actually like
statistics around that. It's golfers and pilots. We looked it up. We did look it up. I don't want to give anyone anxiety about that." And then a bunch of people in the comments were talking about how there's actually statistics
around that.
Yeah, it's golfers and pilots.
We looked it up.
We did look it up.
Yeah, and I was like, oh shit.
I forgot about that.
Someone responds to that one, golfers have a high sex drive.
Someone should have informed my ex-boyfriend.
What?
Apparently, he was not a high sex driver.
That's why he's an ex.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It would be totally fine if he was just wearing it around with his buddies.
It got weird when you said your mom already showed it to your 11-year-old little sister.
Yeah.
And then to be wearing it around other children?
It is inappropriate to use around children.
Period.
Not overreacting.
Just point to a few of the images on the shirt and say, I've tried this position, this one,
this one too, and yeah, I want to try this one now.
You'll never see that shirt again.
And this is what I was telling you earlier, Lauren.
It's so funny.
There's a subreddit I've read a story from in the past.
It's called Traum traumatize them back.
And I think there are moments in life where we need to start traumatizing people back
when it's justified.
When you're going about your day and people are, you know, getting in your business and
being rude and mean to you, traumatize them back.
I'm going to say, would you please give us an example?
I can. Nice, let's hear it. So strike up a conversation of someone that really
annoys you, okay, for whatever reason, or that really fucks you over. Become their
friend, say hey I'd love to connect sometime, either get an email or a phone
number and you've got all you need. What, because you're going to put spam on them?
There's a lot of things you can do with an email or phone number.
And a lot of times people won't give you their junk mail.
A lot of times for a personal connection, they won't give you their junk email.
They'll give you like the one they actually see.
Blow that thing up.
This is like people that sign their exes up for Scientology.
Oh, I haven't heard that one.
But I do know somebody.
I know someone who's signed like her ex up with like a bunch of like, like how to be
a better man like type of like ads.
That's good.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Um, I'm just getting a thought.
Honestly. Do you think they're swingers? Do you think?
Oh, yeah.
Do you think they're swingers? Like there's this mention of like campground and golfers have a
high sex drive. Like this is kind of giving swingers. No?
No, but the shirt didn't have a pineapple on it.
I wouldn't be surprised. Hey, OP, you're shirt didn't have a pineapple on it.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Hey, OP, you're a listener.
You're on our subreddit.
Are there pineapples around?
Pineapples?
Upside down.
I totally forgot this was like a...
They're going to a campground with all these other young people and they're all of a sudden
getting into golfing.
But there's kids there.
Swingers can still have children.
They just don't, you know, they go to someone else's camp.
You don't bring the kids to the place you're swinging.
The kids go to sleep and then they go to a swinger's tent.
You're right, Morgan.
Or the swing set.
This sounds like a community campground. Everyone shows up every summer and it's a fuckfest.
Whoa. What a word.
Huh. Okay.
It's giving swingers. OP did respond to that comment though, the traumatize them comment, like tell them you
want to try all those positions.
And OP did respond, I'm going to do exactly this.
Nice.
I love that.
I would like an update, OP.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
We are going to be moving along though at this time, but thank you for posting.
Okay customer service Morgan.
I'm so good at customer service.
I've wanted to go be a server again.
Like I miss serving.
I miss working at Lululemon.
Like I miss interacting with people.
I at my last job, I actually wanted to on the weekends, like become a server again. Just one day a week.
But one day a week. Nice little wine bar. Yes, that'd be great. Wine bar, you know, happy people
coming in, getting a glass of wine, maybe some Mediterranean food. Oh, I didn't know that was
your thing. I thought you had more of like a tacos and tapas. Oh, Yeah. I'll whip out some margaritas. Nice.
Yeah. Same. Okay. This next one, this is coming from r slash relationship advice. It is 12 days
old now titled my 27 male fiance, 29 female was accused by her friend slash maid of honor,
29 Female, of stepping out on me.
My fiance claims she's trying to sabotage our relationship.
I'm lost and questioning everything.
How do I move forward?
I, oh god, I hate stories like this.
My 27 male relationship with my fiancee, 29 female, has kind of blown up.
I never felt this unsure in our relationship.
I'm in need of outside perspectives.
For context, we're college sweethearts.
For orientation, I was touring campus, and she was my group's tour guide.
That's how we met.
She's my first love and best friend
Now we're in the height of wedding planning
About a couple of years ago. We had a rough patch with her shutting down and pushing me away
She wanted to take a break so she could find herself again. I don't believe in breaks
I wanted to work through it together, but her mind was made up, so I agreed.
We established boundaries for the break.
We wouldn't see other people.
We were to have checkups about where we were emotionally.
The goal was to reinforce our foundation.
The break was only a month.
We bounced back stronger, but it's still a sore spot.
The break was the most distant we'd ever been, and the
experience highlighted why I'm against it.
Recently, my fiancé had a bad falling out with a mutual friend slash maid of honor,
29 female, who I'll call Joss for clarity. Some nasty stuff was said, and Joss accused
my fiancé of being a brideszilla and an even worse friend. I hoped the rift
between them would mend because they were close for a long time. They were like sisters,
but my fiance kicked Joss out of the wedding and uninvited her. The damage seemed to be done for
both. The other day, Joss reached out to me and said that my fiance wasn't being completely
truthful. She revealed
not only did my fiancé see other guys during the break, but also hooked up with someone
on their annual girls' trip. She gave the guy's name, but I don't know who he is.
On the trip, my fiancé's group linked up with another they clicked with. Joss said
it was clear that the guy had an eye for my fiancé, and eventually
she and he began wandering off. My fiancé ignored Joss' attempts at talking her down.
It was a lot to take in. My initial instinct was to shut Joss down. Up until this point,
I trusted my fiancé fully, but I couldn't overlook how much Joss' account matched
my doubts from back then.
Like I said, we were the most distant during our break. It wasn't on my part. There were
times she was AWOL on our checkups. During the girls' trip that fell on our break,
she went radio silent in a way she wasn't on previous trips. There was truth to linking
up with another group, because my fiancé told me about it. She's still casually
in touch with some of them. Right after the trip, she was gung-ho on calling the break
off, how it was a mistake, and that she was in a better headspace.
Joss claimed this was part of her falling out. She was pushing my fiancé to come clean
with me before the wedding. She felt I deserved to know and wish she would have said something sooner.
I didn't say much. I was too numb to really feel anything.
I initially didn't confront my fiancé. I was trying to process, but she could tell something
was wrong and kept asking. When I did confront her, she was a whirlwind of emotions. She mostly
ranted about Joss, but I told her this was her chance
to tell her own story. She asked if I'd hear her out. I promised I would. She confessed
to seeing other guys during the break, but claims nothing happened. She also denies ever
hooking up with anyone on the trip. I asked her why Joss would tell the truth about her
seeing the other guys, which alone
thoroughly broke our boundaries, but make up an elaborate lie about her cheating on
the trip.
She insists that Joss is trying to sabotage our relationship.
She said the other guys meant nothing and I'm the one she was in love with.
It was like she wanted me to be grateful for choosing me. She promised to do
anything to regain my trust. She said, we're starting our lives together and I shouldn't
let Joss come between us. I wasn't very receptive to her. We fought and I told her I needed to think.
Ever since, she's been pouring on so much affection. She still swears she never hooked
up with anyone on the girls' trip
and that Joss is trying to sabotage. But I can't shake the possibility that Joss is
telling the truth. All of this has blown up while we're in the middle of wedding planning.
Invites already delivered, venue booked, catering being arranged, suits, dresses, everything. I feel so numb. I'm in love with
my fiancé. She's my best friend. It feels wrong to doubt her. But I'm questioning everything.
Even myself. I don't know what to believe anymore. I feel like an idiot. How do I move
forward for myself and my relationship?
Well, is the girls' party, talk to the other girls.
There's more than just Joss there.
Yeah, and this might be bad
because there are weird people out there
that do weird things for weird reasons,
but I feel like if anyone came up to me
and said that my boyfriend cheated on me,
I'd be like, okay, I believe you.
Like, even if it's like the
most loyal, trustworthy person in the entire world, I don't know why in my head I'm like,
I can't imagine people go out of their way to tell someone that. And that's probably
wrong to think that because I know there's people out there that do try to sabotage and
do crazy things. But I feel like in my mind, I'd be like, okay. Like, I mean, this happened to me.
Do you remember our spring break trip to Panama City Beach, Florida?
Oh my God.
Yeah.
On that trip, about halfway through, my boyfriend at the time started ignoring me.
And I was leaving from Florida to go up to Canada where he lived to go spend the rest
of spring break with him.
And halfway through the trip he started ignoring me.
And I was like, what is going on?
Like, what is going on?
Like, is he okay? Is he alive?
Like, what's happening?
It turns out my best friend at the time, who was on the trip with us,
told him that I cheated on him.
Lauren was there.
Didn't happen.
I ended every single night eating hot pockets in one of the bunk beds at the Holiday Inn.
Panama City Beach.
Like falling on a budget is what it was called actually.
Like they actually had a name for it.
Sorry, go on.
Yeah, no.
And so it's just like, I don't know what her motive was, but I have had someone do this to me.
Yeah, I forgot about that.
I guess you're right.
She was like in love with him, maybe.
She, there was something there.
She always tried to like imply that they had more of a relationship than they did.
It was, it was really weird.
And I met him because of her.
Like we went to a party and
he was there. But I don't know. So it's like it would be tragic. This would be like us,
all of us here, and you going to Justin and being like Morgan cheated on you. And Justin
being like, why would Lauren lie? I've known Lauren as long as I've known Morgan. This
is her best friend.
Lauren's been my biggest champion. Like that would, I just-
And that's the thing, like this would be a mind-altering,
I don't know what you would do.
Like this is a really complicated,
triple stacked shit sandwich.
That's why I think unfortunately we need to call
some people into question.
We need to like-
Let's go full trial.
Yeah, literally.
I hate stories.
Girlfriend number one to the stage.
Or what is it called?
Bring out Maury.
Bring out Maury, do the show.
Oh yeah, you know,
you guys put that in a better perspective.
I guess I was just thinking about it from- No, but Justin's been huffing and puffing
the whole story.
Like I could feel his anguish while I was reading.
So do you think that he was lying?
Which one do you think is lying?
I don't know.
And that's why I hate stories like this because it's like Austin land and nothing gets me
more stressed and anxious than some shit like that.
Forgot about that.
I watched that and thought it was going to be traumatic.
It's like a cute movie.
It's literally a rom-com.
Yeah.
No, it is not.
That is the worst rom-com in the world.
It's a really good movie actually.
It's very cute.
Absolutely.
Well, sure it can be a good movie, but what happens in it makes me ill.
Okay.
It would be like you guys turning to me right now and be like, yeah, we were never ever
this to you.
This show isn't real.
This relationship isn't real.
You've been played the whole time.
It's like how Ronald felt in the-
No, that-
True, Judy.
Again, I think what you were thinking about
is the Truman Show.
Like that, that's weird.
Austin Land is like just super-
It's the same shit, all right?
It's the same shit.
But what I think-
She knew she was going to the land of make believe.
Without getting anything away, yeah, I'm like-
No, it's fucked up.
You can't do that to somebody.
I hate everyone in this family,
this Too Hot To X Family to watch Austin Land and give us this family, this two-out takes family to watch Oceland and-
And give us your thoughts on this.
We will literally do a poll.
Yeah, please.
I think that this comes down ultimately to a gut decision.
And also the decision that if it happened or if it didn't,
does that drastically change the future? You were
on a break, yes you set standards, you know, we're way beyond that. We were on a break! We're getting married, does
that change your love and your outlook with for the future with this person?
Because that's what it's gonna come down to. Unless you can get a full crazy trial together and get everyone to take the stand and really
get all the facts or even a little bit more information, you're really truly never going
to know.
It's one person's word against another, one person who definitely has a reason to try
and take this person down.
But the thing that got me is the fact that then they were like, well, it started over the fact of I was wanting her
to confess before the wedding.
And it's like, I get how that could be a play,
but at the same time,
that doesn't feel accurate for me though.
I know, but there's just some really good,
it's like two lawyers going back and forth in this.
And I feel like you're never truly going to know.
So what does your gut say?
Because my gut in the past has been right.
And when someone was definitely cheating on me, I was correct.
And it was a gut feeling.
It came from no direct source. It came was a gut feeling. It came from no direct source. It came from a gut
feeling. So I think with when all else fails, that's what you have to go with. And once
you make that decision, you stick with it and you go forward and that's the choice you
made. But there's no going forward and choosing to get married and then continually bringing
this up.
It's you decide now.
No.
And I think like, it's hard because like, I've been on girls trips where you combine
groups of people, right?
There's a guys group on a girls trip, there's a girls group on a group trip.
And like, if your girlfriends are then hooking up with the other guys, you, you could become
friends with one of the guys and like wander off and like you're wandering off because everyone else
is hooking up, but like you're not necessarily doing anything bad.
You know what I mean?
Like there's been trips, I forget where it was, but I feel like we did a girls trip somewhere
and there were like a group of guys and like a lot of the girls were single and some of
the guys were single and so like we kept like meeting up with them. I don't know if it was like Mexico for Alejandro's
birthday or where it was but like, oh, I feel like there's been a trip like that. And it's
like you are going to talk to someone because your friends are engaged with their friends.
You're not going to sit there and twiddle your thumbs. Right. But it doesn't necessarily
mean I'm going to make out with him. Totally. Yeah. And so like there is, you're not going to sit there and twiddle your thumbs. But it doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to make out with him.
And so there is maybe something there where to me, this doesn't feel like Joss trying
to do a good deed and be like, you need to come clean before the wedding. This feels
like Joss being hurt and throwing one last dart at the board, twisting the knife like, I'm going to get even, whatever.
Like, I'm curious what their fallout was really over.
And truly was it over this?
I don't know.
And does Joss really want him in the end?
Does she want them to split up
because she's obsessed with him?
Because we've seen that before.
We have, and I literally just saw a TikTok today and it was like, tell me the craziest
thing your friend has done to you or like ex-friend has done to you. And there was
someone, I think it was like honestly the top comment. And I'm pretty sure she even like name
dropped her. She literally did do like Melissa last Lastname. It was like, my ex-friend
tried to lie to my husband, say I cheated because she wanted to be with him. Like, I just saw this
video today. That's so nuts. I feel, I don't know why I don't even think that's a possibility.
Consider that that's a possibility. Like, I just, because who would want to start a relationship off of like literally the worst
lie, like lying about someone's cheating to get with someone.
Like you were building a relationship off of like the most, I don't know, I just can't
imagine someone wanting to do that.
But like you're right, there are people that do that.
Maybe they think it's the one.
It's not a great way to get there, but no
You never know. Wow. I know let's get into the comments on this one. So top comment
They quote OP we established boundaries for the break. We wouldn't see other people
That's all you need to know you established a boundary
She broke it whether she actually slept with someone or not you need to decide if you can forgive that she's lied to you for years. Essentially, she withheld info in order to get back together with you and did not give you all the facts so that you can make an informed decision
of whether or not that was something you wanted to do.
Next one down. I was prepared to call out the friend for being jealous, but after reading it all, I
think she's telling the truth.
I think your fiancé is trickling out the truth to you.
She's only telling you what she thinks you will forgive.
She's lied and then realized she had to tell you a little bit.
She's been lying since you got back together. Contact the other women that went on the trip and ask them as well. Check her phone for the
messages between the group at that time. Get tested. OP responds, I'm considering reaching
out to the other women. I don't know how open they'll be about it. I get along with them,
but they're more of my fiance's friends. And they've largely-
She just puts them in a group chat.
Hi, ladies.
And they've largely stayed out of the falling out.
Either way, he doesn't trust her at this point.
Bottom line, he doesn't trust her and his gut is saying something's a little off.
So whether it's show me your messages, but again, at that point, you're
going to have a really big hill to climb to get back to that, that trust.
And the friends are going to back her up most likely, you know, it's friends are going to be
a stronger bond over, unless there's someone that's, you know, wants to do right.
But more often than not,
I feel like people will have their friends back
and you're not gonna be satisfied with their answers
because they'll probably all come in mixed
and you'll still, you'll be even more confused.
I know.
That's actually such a point
I don't think I've thought about is like,
like if Morgan did something and then like, and then you asked me did Morgan do something, I would just like do like a
Homer Simpson and like go into the bush. I'd be like, Oh my God.
I mean, I will say, I think, sorry, I think I was going to say, I think you would tell
me. I've you would tell me.
I've never thought about that.
So I actually like don't know what my reaction would be.
I know, but I just, you as a person,
I feel like you would because you're a person
that's out there for the greater good
of people and everyone.
So I feel like you would do it for the good of me,
but also in a way where you wouldn't ruin your relationship with Morgan.
But I feel like that's just who you are.
I feel like if it were me, I would also like tell you like something happened.
Like I would, I don't think I would ever put my friend in a position to lie like that.
Like if something happened, I would tell you, I'd be like, yeah, whatever.
It would be fucking terrible.
But an example I know is someone who made out with someone at their bachelor trip because
they got blacked out.
And she did tell her fiance, did it create a lot of turmoil?
Yeah.
Did they work through it?
Yeah.
Because she was the one that came clean.
In this circumstance, it's not the girl,
the fiance coming clean, it's him finding out
because of her friend and only because of a fallout.
Like, friend would have kept the secret.
Friend has kept the secret for how many years?
So why now?
So can she be trusted? You just don't know.
That too. But you know what, you guys? We get an update.
Oh shit.
I don't think we're... So sometimes when we talk for a while, it makes me assume that there's not an update.
So this is wild.
Thank you to everyone who reached out.
It helped give me much needed perspective.
I wanted to give an update.
I wanted a fuller picture before making a decision on anything with my fiancé, 29female.
I knew her friends and bridesmaids would be a lost cause.
I get along with them, but they're more of my fiancé's friends and their group runs
deep.
They weren't going to talk at the expense of my fiance.
I asked Joss, 29 Female, for more info and for evidence to her claims about my fiance
hooking up with someone on their girls' trip. She said my fiance avoided talking about
that particular trip, especially over text. Most of their arguments were in person, but
she showed me texts from
shortly after the trip where my fiancé confirmed hooking up with the guy. She texted how, quote,
it's in her rear view mirror, and she, quote, doesn't need a lecture about the past, she's
focusing on the future. I knew the possibility, and my fiancé already confessed to seeing
other guys during our break, but I don't know, seeing my fiancé already confessed to seeing other guys during our
break, but I don't know, seeing those texts made it real in a way it wasn't before.
In the text, she expressed regret, but it didn't make me feel better.
I confronted my fiancé, and I knew immediately by the look on her face.
She came clean on everything.
She thought Jess deleted the text. Around the break we were having serious talks
about marriage. She started worrying she was missing out on stuff her single friends were
engaging in. During the break she sought validation from other guys and fooled around with that guy
on the girls trip. In her own words she had a temporary high when he chased her but felt
worse about herself post hookup.
She claims the break showed her what was important and that she wasn't missing out on anything.
She was reassured we were right for each other.
I hardly said anything to her.
I mostly just listened.
I was too numb for much else.
She kept asking me to say something, but what was there for me to say? I felt her
actions spoke enough for us both. She kept apologizing for stepping out. When I asked
her why she wasn't up front with me, she said she didn't want to lose me over her
biggest mistake. Her position that Joss isn't being noble hasn't changed. I told her Joss's
motive doesn't matter. The truth is the truth.
She asked if I could find it in myself to move past this. She said she loves me and
she's fully committed. I couldn't tell her what she wanted. I said it was best the wedding
be put off and I needed some space to sort my feelings. She was against postponing and
proclaimed this didn't have to define us.
And she's still the same woman I wanted to marry.
She asked me not to give up on us.
But the same way her mind was made about the break, my mind was made on postponing.
It wasn't a choice.
It wasn't so much a fight, more putting everything out there.
She cried a lot, she rarely cries.
It felt wrong to leave her crying.
My first instinct was to comfort her, but I was too broken to fake it.
I've been hurt before, but she hurt me in a way only she could.
I know postponing the wedding is for the best.
The reason why I didn't call it off entirely is because I'm way too much in my emotions
right now.
Hurt, anger, sadness, and somehow numbness.
At all possible, I try to avoid making decisions lost in emotion.
I need to clear my head.
I was so sure of my course and our relationship.
My fiancé was my partner in every sense.
She was who I wanted to make a life with. Sometimes she'd act
so superior about our relationship compared to those of her friends. I feel so stupid."
She says she's still the same person I love, but the fact is she had a secret life I knew
nothing about. I'm trying my best to understand that, but I'm at a complete loss. I'm not
sure if I can move past this.
All the guests have been informed of the postponement.
Some questioned why, but I've been vague.
I'm just too embarrassed.
I feel bad for the guests too.
Some with limited means already booked flights and hotels and took off work for our wedding.
That's how far we were in the home stretch.
In some ways, it doesn't feel like
my life. We were just together, wedding planning and discussing the honeymoon. The honeymoon
was a surprise destination for her, somewhere she's always wanted to visit. Now we're here.
I don't know where to go or what the future holds. Thanks to everyone again for the support.
It means a lot.
I just like feel heartbroken for him because the thing is that she's telling him this one
moment shouldn't define us. But it's maybe that one moment wouldn't have. But you know
what does? You lying for years. And you know what does? Getting caught and still lying. That defines the us that you're referring to.
That's broken.
And I don't know how you build that again, because personally, I don't think I would
be able to.
The lying is what would get me.
If she came clean to me right away, like, hey, I know we said this, but something happened
and I still want to be with you.
And I like, if you'll accept me, I would love to try again.
If you won't, I understand.
Then you gave him a chance to think about it and know you and make a decision for himself.
But instead you lied and you faked it, not knowing if he would even want to be with you
if he knew that fact.
And that's not how people should get married.
Well, and it's interesting because of the timing where, you know, you could say, well,
you should address this separate from the wedding, but the wedding is what is really
putting it all in perspective at the same time.
Because I mean, people book their flights.
I mean, we're here.
And that's why it feels like to me,
yes, it'd be a lot to take in and it's a lot to process,
but almost I feel that the decision to postpone the wedding
was sort of his decision on the relationship.
It feels like that's where we're headed.
I think that's what you're kind of getting at too,
is when you decided to postpone that it's not even an option, that's where we're headed. I think that's what you're kind of getting at too. Yeah. Yeah.
Is when you decided to postpone that it's not even an option, that's what's happening.
It feels kind of like that's where we're headed overall.
It's the line multiple times. Me personally, like everyone, if they're going to do a break,
you can decide your own boundaries, right? But I think if you're going to do a break, you can decide your own boundaries, right? But I think if you're going to do a break, you need to be broken up. Like I think the more boundaries you have, the more set
up for failure you are on a break. I think like the main boundary should be, we don't
talk for X amount of time. You're going to do you, live your life, find yourself. I'm
going to do me, live my life, find myself. I'm going to do me, live my life, find myself.
We're going to come back together. Let's see after three months where we're at. Did you
miss me? Do you love me? Do you want a future with us? Or did you find yourself? Are you
happier? Do you want to do this? And like the breaks that I've seen be successful, they
don't put all these rules in place because if someone wants a break,
they're missing something, they're looking for something. And a lot of times they find
it through experiencing life and other people and whatever. My brother and his now wife
of oh gosh, 10 years, they've been together though since like 17 on and off. They took a solid break.
Amy saw other people, Matt saw other people like they, Amy went to grad school in Florida,
like they were done and they have the most amazing life because they did that.
That's why it's so much stronger because there's no what ifs.
They fully determined that like you are who I want.
I'm going to make sacrifices for you going forward. And you know, she wanted a break and OP was like,
I don't do breaks, I don't do breaks.
I'm not blaming him, I'm not blaming him by any means.
I'm just saying in general, like it's the line, the right,
like if she would have came back from the break
and been like, you know what,
I wasn't honest about why I wanted this break.
I felt like I was missing out,
but this break, it confirmed how right you are, how much I love you.
I'm hoping you still want to proceed and have a future with me. But like, this was the reality.
Like I did hook up with someone else. When you go then into the future, transparently versus lying,
and then Joss comes clean and Joss says, she cheated on you.
And OP is like, I didn't hook up with anyone.
I swear we hung out.
You just lied again.
That was your chance.
You lost trust doubly because when confronted with a lie, you'll double down versus come
clean. You have no credibility
now. How does anyone proceed forward with you?
How can he trust you moving forward on anything?
He can't. He can't.
When he could see, when he was so twisted in his mind and his stomach, like sick for
days, weeks, whatever it was, not knowing what to believe. And you were just trying to get away with your lie to like save yourself at like his
expense.
Like it's, how do you trust someone after that?
I would have a very hard time.
It's just like Austin land.
I mean, it's, it's, it's right there.
It's the same, same thing.
Exactly everything you're saying, Lauren, literally describing Austin.
I think it might be time to just go hook up with Joss.
You know what?
I think this feels like a little bit of a petty revenge.
I'm kidding.
You know what?
This show is called Two Hot Takes.
Once in a while, we need to have a hot take out there.
So, you know, I applaud that strategy.
You want some petty revenge?
Hey, have it.
You guys, this is about to get really fucking crazy.
I mean, a lot of times I say things to see how you guys will respond.
We know that we understand.
It's okay.
So you guys, we have a problem.
Someone commented to OP on his post, this update, and said,
OP, she wrote in confessions and deleted it.
Apparently it's way worse than you even know.
See if you can find the confession.
Wow.
I did not fucking know this existed.
I'm sitting over here now having a panic attack
because I'm like, where is it?
Can we find it?
So OP goes, a post. And this person included
a screenshot of a comment of a summary of the post. And OP goes, are there screenshots
of the deleted post? And someone goes, would it really change the fact she cheated, refuses
to call it cheating, and you would have known none of it if it had not been for Joss. And the person who said there's a post-OP goes,
I wasn't able to find it unfortunately, just had to go off what the person was saying.
I'm sorry, brother. I feel like I read that in, um, sorry, brother. But I don't know if
it should really change anything.
If you want a deep dive, you can ask everyone who responded what was said.
I'm sure you can get a clearer picture.
And then they link the post.
Okay.
So the post is titled, I ruined my own wedding before it happened.
Oh, and it's deleted, of course.
Of course.
Reddit couple over there.
I wonder if they know that they're both on Reddit.
So here's what I think happened.
I think she knew OP posted to Reddit.
I think she was hoping he would see her post and then maybe like, oh my God, she is remorseful.
But I thought it was way worse than how she described it.
I'm not sure.
Someone three days ago replied to OP and did have a copy of the text of the post.
Whoa.
So here we go.
Nice.
Here we go.
Y'all are crazy out there.
Don't do anything crazy online.
Someone will have a copy.
I cannot get comfortable in this chair today.
I'm just like so unsettled by the stories, by this post.
So text of the post.
There's no easy way to say this, and honestly, I don't even know why I'm writing it here,
maybe because I can't say it out loud without falling apart.
I was supposed to be getting married this fall.
To the love of my life, we met in college.
He was quiet and kind, always too good at making me feel seen when I didn't even know
I was
invisible.
He brought me coffee during midterms and held me when my dad got sick.
He was … steady in every way that mattered.
But a year and a half ago, I asked for a break.
I told him it was about needing to find myself, but the truth is I was spiraling.
I was overwhelmed, suffocated under the pressure of a life that
felt too perfect, too soon. I thought maybe if I pulled away, I'd miss him and it would
reset something inside of me. Instead, I made the biggest mistake of my life. We had rules
for the break, no dating, no hookups, check-ins every week. I broke every single one. I didn't
mean to, not at first. It started small late
night texts with a guy I met through a friend, drinks that turned into kisses, kisses that
turned into guilt and silence.
Then came a girls trip. That's where I crossed a line I can't uncross. It wasn't love.
It wasn't anything. It was a moment I wish I could tear out a time and burn. But I did
it. I slept with someone else. I came home and buried
it. Told myself it didn't count because we were on a break. But that's a lie I wrapped
around myself so tightly I stopped recognizing my own reflection, and I never told him. It
just slid back into his arms like nothing happened. I told him I was better, that I'd
found clarity. What I really found was fear of losing him, of telling the truth and watching his face
break.
It almost worked until last week.
My mate of honor, well ex-mate of honor now, told him.
She said I was lying, said he deserved to know.
I called her a traitor, accused her of jealousy, of meddling, but deep down I knew she was
right.
Now he looks at me like I'm someone else, and maybe I am.
I keep trying to explain it, to apologize, to say that I love him and always have.
But what does love mean when I shattered the one thing that held us together?
Trust.
I want to marry him.
I want the life we planned, But I also know I made a choice
and that choice might have destroyed the only real thing I've ever had. I don't know if
he'll stay. I wouldn't blame him if he didn't. But I had to say it. Somewhere. Because carrying
this lie any longer feels like dragging a body I buried myself. So yeah, that is apparently her side of things. Account is Zo Orbit 15.
It has been suspended, but could be the other side of this. It sounds very fitting.
It does, but there's nothing new. Yeah.
There's not any...
True.
I didn't learn a single thing.
No.
It could be someone who read OP's post and is posting it to stir the pot.
It is interesting OP to be like, post, do you have a copy of the deleted thing?
Yeah.
You know, I could see someone who saw their fiance's post and was like, I need, he's
on Reddit, maybe he'll see this, things go viral all the time these days.
Like, you guys, how crazy have we been in the past with an ex boyfriend and what we
post on our Instagram story in hopes that they'll see it or ex girlfriend and ex?
Like, you will put crazy stuff out on social media to get a feeler, to get
a response on your story because you're clinging for any hope they see it and come back, miss
you, respond, engage.
We've all been there, right?
Oh, we've all done that.
Yeah.
You post something with a coded message in it for one person to see.
That's what I'm saying.
I want to tell this story because it was like one of the craziest things ever, but I was
head over heels for this guy in high school and he was in college.
I was a senior, he's a freshman.
And it didn't work out and I was crushed and I posted on Facebook this quote.
It was something along the lines of,
everything has a time and place, I know we'll see each other again.
Like something like cryptic and emotional, like I don't know.
And I cannot make this up.
He had deleted Facebook and deleted everything. And I cannot make this up.
He had deleted Facebook and deleted everything.
I didn't have his number.
I didn't have any contact to him.
And it was like seven years later.
And what?
Yes, seven years later.
Yeah.
And I got this memory from my Facebook that said this quote, and I laughed at myself.
I'm like, oh God, I was so dramatic.
Like, I just was so crazy about him and hoping he would see that and it would like spark something
in him.
And anyway, like a couple days later, actually, I think it was the same day, I get a Facebook message request from him. And he said, I moved to
LA. Do you want to get together?
What are the odds?
I know. Well, so then in my head, I'm thinking he must have somehow still had that Facebook
that he deleted and got like a memory notification somehow.
Just because it's so weird of timing. Because it's so weird.
And so I got together with him and finally at the end of our conversation, I brought
it up.
I'm like, did you see this memory?
And there's no way.
His face was shook.
He was like, I haven't had Facebook for X amount of years.
He's like, I moved to California. I was like looking, basically,
I don't know how he explained it, but it was just the craziest moment. And so I feel like
that's like the only time I can really share this right now. But what you're, what you
said is so accurate is that we do post things sometimes when we're hurting in hopes that
somebody that we're hurting
will see it and it'll spark something in them and maybe they'll change their mind.
Because at the time he was like, I'm in college, you're in high school. And I'm like, but
change your mind.
Literally, I, I, I could see this being a tactic. I could, I don't know. OP really hasn't said much else after that. Just
thanking people for bringing it to his attention. I'll look into it. But I mean, it doesn't
really change much, does it? No. She's remorseful, maybe. If it is her, she's posting, sharing her side. But like
again, kind of like Justin said, it's no info. It's not, I've completely ruined my, I mean,
in a sense it is I've ruined my life. I ruined my wedding before it even happened. But it's
interesting the title was, I ruined my wedding before it even happened. Not I broke the person I love because I think it's about the wedding.
But it's, I think that's because it's postponed for now.
That's what my assumption was.
And I'd probably click on that title more than the latter.
But like, if you're-
You know, like it's, it's good.
It's a good title.
A little click baiter over there.
Okay. Okay. I don click-biter over there. Okay, okay.
I don't know.
This is interesting.
I... do you guys think it's salvageable?
Do you think this is one that could be saved?
Personally, no.
But for other people, they can get through those things sometimes because, you know,
I know that people do that.
I know that that is definitely a human reaction to be so shameful of your lie that you bury
it so deep and you convince yourself it didn't happen because of how much shame you have
around it, that you've lied to yourself so many times that you don't even...
So I know that that actually happens in the human experience and that people do accept and get over that and
continue to make things work.
I personally just don't feel like I could because I'm really into honesty and I have
a hard time if people are lying to me even about something silly, it starts to make me
question other things and that's just something that I think I need in a relationship is more
of that consistency with honesty
So that would be too big for me. I think to get over. Yeah
Yeah, anything's possible, but I
Don't know
It's it's a lot
It's hard. I think they have a big big big big hill to climb
but you know what I I think they have a big, big, big hill to climb.
But you know what?
I could see it actually working.
They would have to do a lot of therapy, a lot of working out of that roach motel, as
relationship expert John Gottman calls it.
Oh yeah. But you know, if she is truly remorseful and really realizes like, I would never
forsake you in this way again, I would never hurt you in this way again, I'll do anything to fix it.
It could work, but you can't have OP holding a grudge, being bitter, having resentments,
you know, the scars, like it
would take a lot of work.
And the thing is about this too is that like, okay, let's say that she messes up again.
Even with therapy, let's say she does something again that she thinks might make her lose
him.
She might be more likely to lie because she doesn't want to
lose him.
Like now her motive is to not lose him.
And that's like really hard to come back from because the relationship should just be about
joy.
Now, like if you're in a relationship where you're starting off in all this therapy, it
can work, but it's really difficult because
like now she might feel like she's on thin ice, like, Oh crap, I forgot to take the garbage
out.
Like, Oh yeah, I took it out.
Don't, don't worry about it.
But then like that type of thing.
And then she's in her head.
She's like, Oh shit.
If she, if he knows that I lied, then he would leave me because I'm on thin.
I just think it's such a hard thing to deal with.
I know people can get through it, but it's so difficult.
Let us know what you guys think about this one.
I'm very curious all your thoughts.
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We got to get through them.
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So this next one is coming from Am I Overreacting titled,
Am I Overreacting for getting upset my dad cropped my wife out of our baby announcement post?
Oh gosh, what's, what's going on here?
We just had our first baby.
My wife, 30 female, and I, 31 male, took a picture together holding the baby for the
official announcement.
I sent it to my parents and said they could share it.
My dad posted a cropped version with just me and the baby.
When my wife noticed, she asked if it was a mistake. I called my dad
and he said, quote, well, I figured people only care about the bloodline stuff anyways.
Oh, okay. My wife is not white for context. Oh no. I am. She was devastated. Oh gosh, what a jerk. I told him that was disrespectful and racist.
He said I was making drama over a photo. My mom is saying he meant no harm and I'm blowing
it up. But it doesn't feel like just a photo. Am I the asshole for making a big deal of
this? Absolutely not. This was going to be a funny story.
I thought there was some type of like stupid little drama, but if it, it does
have something to do with race, that's so messed up.
Yeah.
And even if it doesn't, it's still messed up.
Like on any level, it's just like, why, why?
No, I mean, we've read so many stories where a parent has a problem with someone's partner
and that can come from, from who knows what place for a variety of reasons.
If there's something that happened in the past where it's, it's an estranged relationship,
but that's not the case here because that would have been talked about.
So honestly, when I first read this one, I did not read the whole thing.
I only read the title.
I was on the same line.
I'm like, oh, he just must not like the wife.
But if race does come into this, like that does make it 10 times worse.
Like you have a very clear message from your dad that like, he does not like your wife.
He does not approve. and he's racist.
Yeah.
So honestly, you got to cut him out. I don't think you're overreacting at all.
I think bare minimum is he gets cut out. He doesn't deserve to know your child if that's
how he feels about that child's mother.
Literally.
No, you lost your privileges.
So crazy.
No, I thought it was going to be something like...
I thought it was going to be petty as fuck. Yeah, I thought it was going to be something like... I thought it was going to be petty as fuck.
Yeah, I thought it was going to be like, well, I was going to play it off like it was an
accident because I'm older and bad with technology.
But really what happened is your mom was mad because she didn't share her cupcake recipe
and she said we shouldn't post her until she shares the cupcake recipe.
I thought it was going to be something silly like that.
So do we have more context or what's going on over there?
So it is three days old now, 6.2k upvotes in Am I Overreacting.
So it's getting a decent amount of traction over there.
Top comment, protect your wife from the racism of your parents.
What your dad did is unacceptable and your mother excusing it makes her complicit.
Your wife should have a loud voice in what happens next in regards to her relationship
with them and she shouldn't be made to feel she has to decide anything right now. Childbirth
is incredibly taxing in ways you can never imagine, physically and emotionally. She needs
time to heal. Additionally, you both need time to bond with the baby before
you try to process this foolishness. Nothing should hinder this adjustment phase. That means
the best solution may be going no contact with them for the time being. The behavior is targeting
her and she should never be made to feel she has to talk to or share space with people who have
shown her profound disrespect. Once you've both figured out the rhythm of your new normal,
you can decide if you wanna keep no contact
or choose what boundaries you want in place
if interaction is allowed.
No contact gives you a minute to adapt and rest,
giving you much clearer heads
to make decisions about the future.
Well, you know, it is a big thing to cut off parents,
to change a relationship dynamic
and really hold a boundary.
Because this was posted in Am I Overreacting?
It makes me feel like if you're considering that you could potentially be in the wrong
for this, that this may be a pattern, this may have happened before with them, and that
it seems the boundary has not been upheld and it has
not stuck.
I think we're now at a point where the boundary needs to be concrete.
It needs to be set in stone.
And yes, like everything the top comment said, take your time.
Nothing needs to happen right this second.
I mean, don't continue being all happy family with your time. Nothing needs to happen right this second. I mean, don't continue being all happy family
with your parents, but see what, you know,
the mother of your child needs in this moment
and up until, and then yeah, you have time to sort out,
but definitely this is at the point where it's like,
boundary is here and boundary is staying.
And we're not, you know, questioning if we're overreacting.
I know it can be really complicated
with parent-child relationships where you almost feel like,
hmm, am I crazy?
Because someone can manipulate you to feel like
you're in the wrong, like you're in the wrong
when obviously you're not.
So I just hope that it can stick this time.
Absolutely.
And there's a comment here where they say,
it's not just a photo when it erases someone's role
in your life.
Yeah.
It's not like he just won an award for some baseball game
and he's holding it up and they, you know,
and they cut like out the wife cause they're just like, no, this is his moment. It's like,
it's such like a family unit moment where it's like, it just doesn't even make sense
to cut out the like other half.
Literally the baby's here because of her too. Like what if even if like we like Justin and
I have a kid, if his mom were to post a picture of just him
and the baby, like even if it was a picture that I wasn't in and she posts just a picture
of him and the baby, I think if I was like postpartum, I know me and I'm really sensitive.
Like I would overanalyze that and be like, there's other pictures of me, you and our
baby.
Like why am I not included in this?
Like why did you pick the one where I'm not in it?
Yeah. Why, why, like why am I being excluded when this is my baby too? Yeah, do you know what I just
went through to bring this baby here? Yeah, exactly. And like, maybe that's just postpartum and hormones
after and like everything you're going through, but like, no, like, I think that's very valid.
Like, this is your baby, you want to be included. This is a big, huge, important, incredible milestone
for you guys as a family unit,
it should be showcased as a family unit. You can also tell when people crop pictures.
Like it, now it's just him standing awkwardly. Like, was it a sign or something? What did it say?
Oh my gosh. How was it announced?
It was just like a photo of the three of them. Right. But so now it's like awkwardly just him.
And then you know, you can see some element, like a hand or an arm or something. now it's like awkwardly just him and then you know you can see some element
like a hand or an arm or something. And it's like, I've seen pictures posted where you
can tell someone was cut and it's just like, oh, okay.
I know what's the story there. Trying to see if there's any comments from OP. None in relation to this post. However, OP has since, as of two days ago, been very active
in r slash just no mother-in-law. And so clearly, you know, some dynamics there with mother-in-laws
and moms. Okay. I'm curious if OP and maybe wife are sharing a Reddit account now. Right.
I was like, okay, now is it her parents too? What's happening? Yeah. I'm curious if OP and maybe wife are sharing a Reddit account now. Right.
I was like, okay, now is it her parents too?
Yeah.
What's happening?
Yeah.
I mean, there's a comment here on another post from OP.
Your mother-in-law's hypocrisy is Olympic level.
She's projecting her insecurities and fears while pretending to be a moral compass.
You've done the hard work.
Her judgments are just noise.
Keep the wedding low key, save your energy for better battles, and don't waste your time
trying to fix someone who clearly enjoys the drama."
So Seems OP is very with it in clocking other people's issues and just kind of needed this
to like get reassurance like, am I being crazy here?
Am I reading into this?
Or like, is this an issue?
And it's a motherfucking issue.
Shit sandwich. Moving along. So here we go. This
is coming from Two Hot Takes, nine days old, titled, found photos of my pregnant sisters
and breastfeeding video on my boyfriend's phone. What do I do? Whoa. Hi fam Longtime listener, and I've never had a problem like this
that I needed advice on.
Oh my god, this is a friend?
First ever post, so bear with me, please.
No.
My boyfriend, 22 male, and I, 21 female,
have been together since 2019,
with only one breakup in that time.
A little background, he's my high school sweetheart and also the only man I've ever
slept with.
We broke up previously due to immaturity on his part and not being ready for a life commitment.
On to the issue.
We have had a photo album of us we have been working on together since we started dating
and it's almost complete.
I went into his photo gallery to see
if there was any new good photos to add to our album
to finish it off.
We have an open phone policy.
I'm scrolling and I see photos of my pregnant sisters
and a video of my sister breastfeeding her daughter.
I can't describe the sinking feeling that came over me
and how fast my heart started to beat.
The videos and photos were recorded from my phone 24 days ago while I was sleeping.
I have no idea what to do or what to say of him. The one thing I've done so far is edit them on his Snapchat
to where the video says, quote,
why are these on your phone?
And to the pictures, question mark, question mark,
question mark, question mark.
I'm currently waiting for him to wake up and notice.
Once he does, I'm not sure what to say or what to do.
So Morgan and two hot takes fam, what do I do?
Call the police first and get a restraining order,
break up with him.
I, this, what ma'am?
Ma'am, what's going on?
Is there anything that would be reasonable for this?
Is there any excuse that we can think of?
It's her.
No.
Her phone.
Yeah, not currently.
Her phone.
So her phone had a video of her sister breastfeeding her baby
and while she was sleeping, took her phone,
found the video and recorded it on his.
Got it.
Or like, aird air dropped it over.
I think Opie could tell it was a recording.
Huh.
Which is creepy. Yeah, very creepy. That's to try to avoid the evidence.
I think it's...
Which actually, can people see what they've air dropped people?
Is there no trail of that?
Yeah, I don't know.
I've never thought about that.
Not that I know of, actually.
There probably isn't an airdrop trail.
So the only explanation I have in my mind is that like, maybe this is a kink for him,
like breastfeeding pregnant women.
I don't know.
But like, she's like, or he's just into the sister and that's like the closest thing he
had had access to.
I don't know.
Either way, it's not good.
No, it's not.
But it's just so messed up.
It's very, it's very clear.
Right?
It's very clear here.
It's not like the last one where we have no idea
what to believe until the very end
and the update that came out,
but here it's like, nah, the evidence is right there.
So what do you want to do?
Cause you say, you know, when he realizes,
I don't know what to say, I don't know what to do.
But like Lauren was so sure, you know, it's
breakup number two. Here we go. It's, we were right the first time and here we go.
Here's the only like innocent scenario I can come up with in my head, which is still, let's
hear it. Not okay. But like him recording that, sending it to his buddy and being like, bro, I hope my girl's boobs get this huge when we have a baby.
I knew that's where you're gonna go, look at these honkers.
Isn't that the same?
Well, I mean, it's still messed up.
Like, I'd still be furious.
But I'm just saying, like, I'm trying to think of the least creepy,
least like, he's into my sister way.
And that's like the only thing I can come up with. But I kind of hate that I said it out loud, creepy, least like he's into my sister way.
And that's like the only thing I can come up with. But I kind of hate that I said it out loud
because now I feel like he's gonna use that.
I mean, it's not like it's a picture, a nude of the sister.
It's like, it's breastfeeding.
But what about the pictures of them just being pregnant?
I don't know. Oh yeah.
It wasn't described.
Yeah. Is that like, I don't know. Oh yeah. It wasn't described. Yeah.
Is that like, I don't know what pregnant photoshoots are like?
I'm curious the context of the pictures, but I don't know you guys.
I don't know.
I just like...
It could be a pregnancy thing.
I think it's a kink for him.
It's just something's just not right. You obviously have to have a
conversation. I mean, you guys have been together since 19, you're 21. It's only two years?
Well, 2019.
Oh.
So it's like six years.
Oh, I'm bad at math. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a long relationship.
And that's, I mean, that's kind of where we're at.
Like, we're about to hit seven years.
If I all of a sudden discovered you were recording my family members breastfeeding,
I would be really weirded out.
Oh, yeah. I'd be right there with you. I agree.
I, I, it's, there's no way to make it normal. There's no way to make it something that is explainable.
I think it's one thing if it's your partner, because I think that is a beautiful thing
to record if it's your partner, your baby.
Well yeah.
That's why she has them in the first place.
Exactly.
It's your sister.
It's this magical thing.
But it's so weird that
he screen recorded them. You got to have a conversation. See what his answer is. If you
believe it and it's something you can work with, there you go. I would be really creeped
out. I would feel very violated that he took this off my phone. I would have a serious
trust issue with him. I would feel somewhat uncomfortable then if he was in the room with my sister breastfeeding
going forward.
This would be a really hard one for me to get over, honestly.
And this is really weird.
People might judge me for this.
I would have a harder time getting over this than the line for the last one, I think.
Is that weird?
No, it's not weird.
I guess it would just depend on what his reason is.
Like what is he using those photos for?
Oh yeah, because if he's using them for a spank bank.
Don't you remember one of the stories we had from a listener ages ago?
She found pictures of all of her friends on her boyfriend's phone and it was in a folder
and it was his spank bank.
I wouldn't be able to be around him.
Never, never, no, never.
Spank bank, yeah, okay.
Are you still here?
Where'd you go?
I just, just processing that.
It's a good rhyme.
Spank bank.
You've never heard that phrase?
I don't think so.
Wow.
Jealous. Live in a cave.
Yeah, it's definitely much more clear cut in this moment.
But it's like, I really want to know when he wakes up
or whatever, when he sees how you put the text
on the photos and the video.
Oh, man, I want to see the reaction
and then I want to hear the first words.
I can't imagine waiting for him to wake up.
And just watching.
No, I would like grab the collar of his shirt
and be like, why I oughta?
Like just imagine letting him peacefully wake up.
Like, couldn't be me.
I know.
I'd wake him up. I wouldn't be able to post this on a Snapchat and wait.
I'd be like, hey.
Well, I don't think it's posted.
What the fuck is this?
She put the text on it in the camera roll.
So when he wakes up and goes to look back at those things again, it'll be, oh shit.
And that is a moment I would pay to be there for.
Same top comment. He is filming your sister breastfeeding exposed without her consent.
Confused on how he got them.
He is not a safe person for you or your sisters.
I'm wondering if what he did is illegal in your area.
There is no coming back from this.
Get him out of your life now.
Wake his butt up and confront him and tell your sisters
what he did. Dump him. I mean, honestly, do you even have to ask? Says the next one, which
hey, it's hard. Oh yeah, after that many years, like it's so hard to like pull your first
love. Yeah. And to have your first love, your first everything, last six years, ugh, the pain of that.
Like it's one thing when you have your first love, your first everything, and it only lasts
a year and you break up in high school, but to go-
Or literally one month.
Couldn't be me, JK, it was me.
Help.
But like, yeah, no, I can't imagine six years and then just, it's not that easy to just
flip a switch after that amount of time.
So I understand asking questions and not having it be like a no brainer of dumping him.
Yeah, for sure.
That's really difficult and confusing and extremely painful.
Yeah. Only
two real comments from OP on this one. No formal update yet.
Ma'am, it's been 11 days. Oh, man. It's time.
Just kind of highlighting how the videos were there. My sister sent me the videos in a snapchat group.
We have to stay updated on each other's lives and he used his video camera to take a recording of my phone
with the photos and videos on it. Have you ever taken a photo of someone's phone for a number meme contact, whatever it is?
People were asking why would your sister even send you that? Why would you have your sister breastfeeding?
This is my sister's first child and was born premature.
Baby has been in the NICU for about three months.
So her baby being able to breastfeed and not fed from a tub is a big moment for her and
something she was proud of as a new mom to share.
Yeah.
I don't know why people are asking that.
I don't think that's...
I don't think it's weird at all.
No. It's a magical thing. And like, your baby's in
the NICU, like that's hard. That means she was pumping to maintain her milk supply.
I mean, she was doing a lot of work to be able to do that. And then like, baby
has been fed through an NG tube to then have the baby be able to latch. Like,
that is a feat that is so amazing. So like, yeah, I would
imagine you'd be proud and sharing it with your family because it is a big achievement and
breastfeeding isn't inherently sexual, you weirdos. Right. Well, and it's just so, it's such a crazy
connection to life. I mean, we, you know, you see animals all the time, birds, and then there's a
baby bird in the nest and they're feeding the baby bird and all this, but you're literally doing that yourself. I know. It's so crazy. You grew this human
inside of you and now you're able to feed this human. Like it's just kind of a crazy thing.
I know. I wish you could do it. I would try. I know. I don't want to do it.
Also, we have a baby bird that's living right above our door.
Lauren, you took a picture of it today.
It was really sticking up out of the nest.
Is it one or more than one?
I think it's just one and it was about to hop out of the nest today.
Lauren got a really good picture.
It's time.
It's already, it's got a lot of feathers.
That thing's got to go.
No, it's like ready to fly, but the bird keeps shitting in my shoes because I like, I take
my horse shoes off right before the door before I get in the house and it's shitting in my shoes. Cause like I take my horse shoes off right before the door,
before I get in the house and it's shitting in my shoe.
Oh, he's big.
It's a big bird.
Time to fly.
Time to fly.
Look at he's like a little master.
Also, did you guys put that there?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Are we sure that's not mama?
No, that's a baby.
That's the head I've been seeing.
What's down to the left?
What's that?
I'm getting up there tonight.
No, you can't disturb them.
Also, did you guys decide to put this on here
or did it come with it?
The gargoyle came with the house.
Nice.
And we believe in juju and not fucking it up.
I was hoping you guys decided to put it there
because that would just be such like a...
A statement.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like so random of you guys that I would be like...
I think we-
All right, I'm with it.
Yeah.
We definitely have to take it with to our next house.
It gives good juju.
Oh, I don't know about that.
We'll get a new one.
Oh, fuck.
You gotta leave things where they are.
Okay, last one, because we have to end on a positive note.
We can't end on the poop.
We need a good bun to close the sandwich.
You know, the positive sandwich.
The sappy sandwich. It's not going to be sad though. I'm not doing that again. The happy sandwich. You know, the positive sandwich. The sappy, sappy sandwich. It's not gonna be sad,
though. I'm not doing that again. The happy sandwich. Yeah. So this is coming from r slash
tuha takes our very own people titled, She made me a plate and I almost cried. I never thought a
paper plate with food could get to me, but it did.
I was at my college roommate's family barbecue over the weekend.
The air smelled like charcoal and ribs.
Everyone was laughing and calling each other cuz, even if they weren't actually related.
I stayed near the back, mostly quiet, because I've never really been to a family gathering
that felt like this.
Warm, chaotic in a good way, full.
Then my roommate's mom walked over and handed me a plate.
Not just tossed together food, a plate.
The kind where someone actually thinks about what you like.
She gave me the good macaroni, skipped the coleslaw because she remembered I didn't
like it, and gave me a double helping of the cornbread I'd just been raving about. No big speech,
just a quiet, here you go baby, eat.
I almost cried right there in her backyard. My own family doesn't really do that kind
of thing. Growing up, dinner was just there. Get it yourself, don't be picky. I can't
remember the last time someone made a plate for me without me asking.
No guilt, no attitude, no second guessing, just care.
I didn't tell her, I just said thank you, but it meant more than she'll ever know.
It's timely because I was just thinking about that this week. It's actually so crazy, the friends, parents in my life growing up who actually helped
me and the ones who did the opposite.
And it's just like, these things are so meaningful.
You don't even know how much you could change someone's life, especially
a young person too. If you are an adult and you're around a young person, I think you
should especially be mindful of making them feel included. We're so afraid when we're young. And we still grow up that way. There's so
much shame that everyone experiences, embarrassment, nervousness, not knowing our place, not knowing
our belonging. It's so beautiful and so important when you hear little moments like this that
can impact someone's life so much. And it's so simple.
It really is.
I think the most impactful things a lot of times are that simple.
And they don't take a lot of effort.
It just takes a little thought.
And, you know, it makes me think about those videos you see
where, you know, showing up matters.
And it's a graduation for young, old, whatever,
or some sort of celebration.
And the person sitting there looking around,
and then when they see the person,
the way they just light up, it's so simple just to show up.
It's simple to make someone feel seen.
And that's why, I mean, we're really bookending
this episode because it goes back to that, just compliment, a comment,
any sort of, going to a restaurant
and seeing an elderly person sitting by themselves,
say, hey, can I sit here?
And challenge yourself to just try and start a conversation.
Yeah, it may not work all the time.
Yeah, you might get shut down,
but for that one person that it actually works for and you have a meaningful conversation, it's kind of like, you know, you won't necessarily
end up with their condo, but it's that same sort of impact.
Yeah, it really is.
That person will then go and talk about that for months. Some random person sat down with
me at this restaurant and just started asking me about who I am and
what I do and XYZ. You can have the biggest impact from the littlest things on people. And I think it just, it makes you feel good. Not because you're doing it for yourself,
but just from the pure joy you can inspire in others.
Kaitlin Luna Yeah, the response on this was really great. It's since been removed.
And I don't know why.
I couldn't even find it on my own subreddit.
I had to go in some weird red lib finder.
But the top comment is, to be seen is to be loved.
You're one of her kids now.
And OP did respond, wow, you're so right.
I'll remember that, thank you.
Someone else goes, perhaps
a handwritten thank you and telling her how much it meant to be included would give her
as much warmth in her heart as the plate did in yours. And I think that's something like,
write a thank you card to someone, write a letter to someone, call your grandparent,
call a family member, a friend, check in with a loved one, like take today to make the world a better, warmer,
happier place.
I know my world is better, warmer, happier because of all of you, and I appreciate all
of you being here.
Another episode, another week, another month, another year.
And I think our community together can do some big amazing things to take the buns as positive messages today and spread
some kindness because the shit in the middle was not it.
But any final thoughts, my friends?
No, I just, I mean, I think when we go back to looking at the first story and then the
last story, it just kind of puts into perspective.
It's like at all ages, it's never too late to make an impact on someone's life
that is beyond meaningful to them.
So you might be having a rough day.
A lot of us go through a lot of shit, but when you're out and about and you're
communicating with people in person and, you person and online even, just try to remember that we are all human beings going through this complicated, confusing
life together and try to be kind because life can hit you hard and it's so beautiful when
you have people around that are showing you this like positivity and this light. Absolutely. Okay. That's all she wrote my friends. Lauren, your toe sticking out of that blanket.
I hope we can see that on the camera. Your one big toe was poking through the blanket
and that just made my night. No free feet pick, one free toe.
There we go.
One toe.
Until next time guys.
Until next time.
Until next time.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye. Thanks for watching!