Two Hot Takes - 226: Quite the Commitment..

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

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Kick us off today, Lauren. Okay, well, I just opened up my Instagram and the first thing on there was this whole coldplay debacle and As I was saying it out loud, I just realized I'm like, wow, this is the second like two episodes in a row I'm bringing up coldplay Let's see how many episodes in a row Lauren can make coldplay fit, fetch into Yeah into the theme into our conversation. Yeah. Oh my God. So funny. I don't know if you guys have seen it,

but there's a video from a Coldplay concert where the cameraman like zooms to the, like it's a jumbotron thing. And this cameraman zooms on a couple. Which I didn't know they did that at concerts, but go off. I didn't know they did that either. And maybe they knew. I was so nervous to get on the kiss cam when me and Jess went to a game early on.

I was like, don't put me on there. I was nervous. I would have loved that. I was so nervous, but zoom on the people and it's this guy and this lady and they're like happily dancing the Coldplay and he notices he's on camera and literally bolts and the woman turns around and she ducks and like walks behind people to get out. Like they both go separate directions, just bolt. And it turns out he's like, I've seen a lot of speculation that he's actually like a CEO

and he's married and people like obviously sent it to his wife. She has since like changed her last name on Facebook. No way. I didn't even I haven't dug into it at all. Oh, I'm just had a little too much time online today. Totally get that. Missed my nap because I couldn't get off TikTok. Oh, I thought you got a little power nap in. 15 minutes Lauren.

Oh, God. Well, I'm running on a little sleep as usual. It's like one of the busiest weeks. Like every day has felt like I just completed a full weekend. And I'm like, wait, it's not Friday tomorrow. This, I can't believe it actually finally is Friday tomorrow because it's just been like the longest week. I hate weeks like that where you get to Tuesday and you're like, oh my God, I'm so ready for the weekend. You're like, oh, Tuesday.

I mean, like, don't get me wrong. It's like good busy. And I'm really appreciative of it. It's just that like, I am exhausted. Yeah. And I just, I always hope that I don't come off as tired as I often am. As you feel.

I know. I'm also just like chronically like a tired person like I kind of want to get like blood work and and do one of those holistic things so anyone has any recommendations? Function health is really good you just go to a Quest lab there's like a bunch of labs everywhere but you literally like go to a Quest lab and like you get so many results. Really? Because I was thinking about I've heard people doing a lot of like these ones where you pay out of pocket so they're really expensive, which is why I've been holding

off on it. No, this one's like, I think they're running a deal right now. I want one of those rings too, so that I can like see what my sleep patterns look like. Yeah, I know. Honestly, it would depress me. I miss summer vacation. It's the middle of summer right now and all I want to do is go back to being a kid and like having summer vacation. I miss that. Yeah. You know what was cool too is I was just thinking about this because Brian's in Idaho right

now for work and he was saying how the sun just went down and it was like 10 p.m. And I was like, those- Minnesota's like that. It's so amazing. Yes. And I just, those days were so fun when I was a kid during the summertime. I felt like summer was a year for me. I didn't realize that it was only a few months.

When I found that out, when I was a kid, I was like flabbergasted. Me and my friends, we would stay up until the sun would go down playing Ghost in the Graveyard. Yeah, and catching lightning bugs. Yeah, in our backyards. It was this cold as sack, too cold as sacs, so the backyards like all faced each other and all the parents would go on their porches and like have wine and have the lights on. But we'd all play out in this basically huge backyard because they were all combined.

And I just love stuff like that. So I agree. Summertime. I know. Now we're adults. Great stuff. And I thought, I don't know, I thought people might, you know, slack off a little bit in the summer, but no one in my work world is

slacking off. We need to like, we need to chill a little fam. Like, if we all agree to slack, it could be good. Yeah. Right? Like, let's just slow it down a little bit. I was talking to someone who's from the UK and will partially work with people in the UK. And he was like, they just, they are so different. They like truly, truly value their work life balance, mostly life, not much work. No, Spain. If we have any people in Spain listening, you guys still do siestas? They get daily naps. I know.

Like, I need a siesta. Is that like a common thing or is that only in certain areas? I'm asking our friends out there. We got friends there. I remember learning that in my Spanish classes. I was like, can we incorporate that right now? Literally now. Okay, let's get into this theme today.

I've been toying. I was gonna say toting. I've been toting the lawn of two ideas. I've been toying with two ideas and one of them is like, that's a choice. Like, ooh, that's certainly a choice to do that. You sounded like that TikTok sound. Ooh. And then the other is like, quite the commitment. Like you've been doing that for quite some time. That's quite the commitment you've been doing or like, damn, that is a lot of energy to do that.

Like, it wouldn't be me. I wouldn't do that. So I've got quite a few. You have found a couple as well. I think it's going to be a good theme. We'll see what title I agree on. And if I use the title that I don't pick, again, don't judge me. My brain is running out of ideas after 224 episodes. I don't know how you do that. I literally don't even know how to caption any of my Instagrams. So I don't know how you come up with names for the episode.

My brain hurts. I literally sit there and you come up with names for the episode. My brain hurts. I literally sit there and I stare at the ceiling for 30 minutes. Like a lot of times when the episode is late late, it's because I can't think of a name. See, if this was my podcast, it would be like episode 1053. Just numbered. Yeah. With a smiley face. New emoji each time.

It's so funny. And I do remember most of the names, like especially if someone tells me, but okay, enough about us. We've been gabbing too long. People are screaming, get to the Reddit stories. So without further ado, let's dive in. Let's do it.

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Give it a try, you know you wanna. Shop now at Sephora and soldegenerro.com. Do you want to get super enraged or weirded out right away? Enraged. Enraged. Okay. For sure. Okay. There is some trigger warnings on this one. It does involve animals and potentially

this one, it does involve animals and like potentially bad situation regarding animals like dog kidnapping. So I haven't gotten into it. I haven't read it. I'm going off the title and what the trigger warning at the top is. Oh, this isn't the one that you told me about. It's a different one. A worse one. Oh, I know. So let's get into this and then we'll talk about the other one. Okay. Because it'll fit. Oh yeah. Okay, so this is coming from r slash relationships. It is titled, my 23 female boyfriend, 23 male of three years, stealthily took my 11 year old dog to a vet 80 kilometers away to be put to sleep.

It was only luck I found out and got him back. Boyfriend doesn't know I have my dog back, but he comes home tomorrow night. My boyfriend Jay left for a trip up the coast to help family on Friday morning. While I was at work Friday, I got a phone call from one of my ex's flatmates, Bob, who I lived with at uni. He thought he had my dog with him and phoned me because someone had dropped him off to the vet surgery he worked at to be put to sleep. Bob sent me pics and it was my Stixie. And I'd recognize him anywhere. I grew up with him and he was so close to me when I left home to study there were no questions about it. Stixie stayed with me.

How can you even get away with that? How could the vet agree to that? Bob kept Stixie with him, and I drove to pick him up as soon as I was out of work. Bob also showed me a phone recording he took of the vet's security camera screen. And there's no doubt in the world, it's Jay dropping him off. Wow. He's even wearing the same clothes he left in this morning before I went to work. Jay has texted me a few times today, and I don't know why, but I'm not confronting him about this.

I'm actually scared I will utterly lose it at him. I'm running everything through my head on why he would do this. We talked sometimes about moving north to be near his family or overseas within a few years. I can't believe I'm trying to find reasons for him to do what he did, or reasons for me to not rip him a new one and dump everything he owns on the front yard and set fire to it tonight.

I'm half numb and half stunned beyond rational thought. Why can't I get functionally angry here? He texted me this morning like he normally does when he's away. I replied like normal though. We're not big text talkers anyways He asked me a couple of times if I was okay Everything in the text. I'm trying to read into what the hell he's thinking. He's hiding

What do I do? I? Mean there's I don't know how you could ever continue to a relationship with somebody like that truly like even if let's say the dog was very sick and was dying, and he thought that he was trying to do the dog a favor because the dog was in pain, that is still so beyond not okay because she should be able to say goodbye. She still is the one who should make the call. And I just, it like, it's sickening and it's, it's so messed up. And so yes, OP, I'm questioning

why you're questioning that as well. Like, I don't know why there's no excuse for it. So whatever rational, like, like rationale that you come up with, none of it excuses that. That's... No. And it's like, I don't know what his reasoning is. And also, he brought the dog up there when OP went to work. Where's the dog? You know what I mean? There was no text from him to be like, oh, Stixie got out. I can't find him.

There was no even faking it. It was like, poof, dog disappears. Like, you look insane, sir. You look insane. You are insane to do this to a dog who seemingly is in okay health at 11. There's no mention of Stixie having anything wrong with him. So it's like, that's not your decision to make, as you said, Lauren. Right. And even if the dog was in such a bad spot, you should let the owner be able to say goodbye. Exactly. In what world?

And then it just goes to control. Like it goes to, this dog is impacting your life in a way you don't want in some way. And so you're taking it into your own hands to dispose of this dog. Literally, just dispose of it. Goodbye. I want to put you down because I don't want you. You didn't even drop it off at a shelter. You took him to a vet to be put down and then you didn't even stay to watch him get put down. So now you're just a piece of shit and a fucking coward to leave a dog alone with a stranger. But she saved the dog, right? She was able to swoop in.

Yeah, by some grace of God, a friend worked at the vet clinic. What are the chances? Like this was 80 kilometers away from where they live. Is there any possibility that he was taking the dog there for a checkup and not to be put down? Is there any possibility that this other guy got it wrong, Bob? I don't know.

So OP does reply to a couple of comments. Someone goes, well, that's terrifying. Do you have a place, a friends maybe, where you and Stixie can stay for a bit while you get this sorted? And by this, I mean your new living situation? Yeah. Because you really can't continue to live with the guy who just tried to kill your dog behind your back.

Yep. Nope. That's so messed up. Opigos, thanks for the comment. I do. At least two coworkers would be okay with me contacting them. I want people around me when he comes back. I wish I could make sure he knows he's no longer welcome in this home, nor can he come

back and he's to go immediately. But I also know by bitter experience with a friend that kicking someone out of a dwelling they live in is a long process. So OP also the same day went and posted in legal advice, we do find out OP is located in Australia and is just trying to figure out if like what he did was illegal. Are there any steps that OP can take to protect themselves when he returns tomorrow? Like OP is clearly trying to make sure like he can't come back and he stays away from me. I don't know how that like could be legal.

People sue people for so much less. I just don't know how that could even fly. I don't know. Especially like, who is this vet that's agreeing to this? If his name's not registered to the dog, how are you even like considering it for a second? I feel like though the vet honestly probably made the decision to be like, okay, I'm going to take this dog, but like, I'm not actually going to do anything. I think that's why the dog is still alive versus like, okay, let's go back to a room.

Maybe the vet was like, let's run some tests though. Versus turning the dog away back to an abusive home. Yeah. It seems like the vet might've been kind of a saving grace in this one. I hope so. That's what I'm gathering. So, OP kind of just explains the situation in legal advice and is just like, can I do anything? I, what, like, can I do anything?

I, what, like what options do I have? My boyfriend doesn't know I know what he did, nor that I have the dog back. Just kind of asking like, is this legal? What can I do? And someone goes, not legal advice. Keep your dog somewhere else. If he has access to him, who knows what else will happen? And someone else then responds and goes, and then ask where the

dog is and see how much he's going to lie about it. Yeah. Which is what I would do. Yeah. I would want to know, where's my dog? Yeah. Like how, what version of psycho are you? Yeah. Yeah.

I wouldn't let on. I would honestly, oh, it's just like such a tricky dynamic. Everyone should get their animal microchipped because if someone tries to pretend that your animal ran away while you were gone or something like that just gives you a security to... You can get your horse's microchipped nowadays too. Oh good. I know. So we do have an update. Let's hear it. Edit and a quick update.

A night's sleep with good people around me helped. I phoned a workmate to see if I could go stay there with Stixie and she came over for the night instead. We spoke and we have a plan. Thank you for the links to NSW Laws. It looks like I might be in the clear with forcing my ex out. I'm a renter. I'm the only name on the lease,

and we had no written agreement. From my understanding, he is a border or lodger and can be removed quickly. I'll have to clarify of course, but that gives me confidence. I was freaking out because I didn't know where to start last night. Yeah, you can have the police remove him if his name's not on the lease.

Get him out of there. My ex will be confronted with more people I know in the house backing me up. Stixie is also in good health. Yeah. My ex will be confronted with more people I know in the house backing me up. Stixie is also in good health. Wow. He's 11 and a bit too fat and slower than he used to be, but he's fine. These photos are from early November when we visited a property out of town.

He started life as a farm dog and going back made his day. Unfortunately, the link doesn't work anymore. Mm-hmm. OP also goes to say he's not microchipped. I'm taking a person to leave day Monday and getting him chipped first thing. Update 2. He came back. He lied.

I was upset and looked at. We gave him enough rope to make excuses after changing excuse. First he was shocked Stixie was gone and would help look for him. Oh fucking asshole. Then he was shocked someone took him to a vet to be put down. Oh. Then when confronted with proof it was him, he claimed Stixie was hit by a car and he

had to end his suffering. When confronted with a live happy Stixie, he turned it around and it ended with him telling me he should have had me put down. Oh, you need to be in fucking jail. Electric chair! Literally. What? What an absolute psychopath. He should? I'm like, I read that right, right?

He ended up with him telling me he should have had me put down I literally want To tie this guy up and punch him in the face For 24 hours straight your poor little knuckles. I would get so strong. It'd be great would get so strong, it'd be great. OP goes on to say, My coworker and her partner and I told him he was not welcome in the house anymore and that they were moving in with me. And then everyone in the house and the neighbor we both get on well with who saw him return on Friday to take Stixie now knows what kind of person he is. He left on his own accord and took some of his stuff. I'm no closer

to knowing for sure why he tried to do what he did. Sorry for jamming up legal advice and this one, it wasn't much of a legal ending. I mean, honestly, he sounds like a serial killer. He does. This is insane. Absolutely insane. And then when faced with getting caught, you continue to lie again and again and again. And then you say, I should have put you down.

That's insane, actually. I feel like that's also like the art of cheater responses too. They'll just continue to change their lie and then until they can't, they're backed into a corner, then they like project and start saying mean names to the person that they cheated on. It's so like despicable. It's just like you're peeling off the mask of their ugly personality one by one until they finally reveal themselves. I know Justin and I just had a story in an episode

that we recorded and it was this person who was like, my boyfriend initiates sex with me by taking off my glasses. And the person goes on to say like, I'm so uncomfortable, he removes my glasses and then sometimes he'll make me beg for them to get them back and see, I've told him I don't like it. I told him I feel vulnerable, like all this stuff. And then OP was just like, can we please stop doing this? It doesn't make me feel good. I feel really vulnerable. It feels like you're almost using my disability against me in a way. And OP woke up the next morning, glasses gone, and he goes, you want to know

what it's really like to feel disabled? Try now. And had hid the glasses and broke them, like snapped the little like arm off, popped the lens out. That's what I mean. Like perfect boyfriend up until that point, years of dating. And then to do that, like, like switch to such a scary abuser. I don't understand why people use animals as such like leverage or like bargaining chips or like to hurt someone. It's like, what does this innocent animal got to do with you and your problems in your relationship? And it's like, if you don't like that this person has a dog or a cat, go date someone else that doesn't have any pets.

I know, truly. There's so many people out there. Yeah. And that's the thing is like, I feel like there's a lot of people who just view pets very differently. Like, that's what's so crazy is like, a lot of people who are pet owners, like, that's their family. That's their, might as well

be a human baby. Like that's how much they love their pet. And so if you're going to partner with somebody who doesn't at least respect that love that you have, it shouldn't be a relationship. And I know that some people are probably going to disagree with that. But like, I really think that like, if you have, if this is something that's so important in your life, then your partner should be able to respect that. And if they can't, like even if they're not a huge animal lover, like if they can't, then they just shouldn't be together because but like clearly like it sounds like these two people from this story, maybe they were just trying to make it fit and they thought I don't like animals. They're just a dog. It's fine and

and then end up getting rid of Something that made their partners heart sing. I know the happiest part of their life. Maybe like it's just I don't know What is it jealousy? Like I don't know. I just can't imagine doing this to anyone Like specifically someone you love. Yeah. It's insane. And like, I just don't understand it.

But that's that. Glad OP got out, got out safe. Got her dog. Getting a microchipped little Stixie. I wish we would have seen a picture. I'm like, I want to see a a little Stixie. I wish we would have seen a picture. I'm like, I want to see a picture of Stixie. I wonder if someone else has like ever shared it. But no, have you tried to find anything about Stitch, Stitch, Stitch, oh my God, Stixie.

You tried to Google search. Fully malfunction. Have you tried to Google search anything with StixiDog Reddit story, the only thing that pops up is like Lilo and Stitch. But okay, moving on, let's get into this really weird one, okay? This is one you found. I haven't read it though. Have you read it?

The TikTok one? No. Okay. So we're both going in blind. It was the title that got you. This is coming from our very own 2hot takes subreddit, one day old, titled, My husband made a secret TikTok account to post videos of me sleeping. This is dot dot dot. Really embarrassing to even type. I, 32 female, found out that my husband, 34 male, has been secretly filming me sleeping and posting it to TikTok under some weird account name.

It started because my coworker showed me a funny TikTok of a woman snoring and said it looked just like me. My stomach dropped. Oh my god. It was me. Wow. In my own bed. I confronted my husband and he admitted it's his account. He said he started it as a joke because, quote, you're so cute when you sleep and people love it. I checked and the account has over 50,000 followers. There are dozens of videos of me, snoring, tossing, drooling, even one where my shirt has written up and you can see a part of my bra. He claims it's harmless and that, quote, people post their spouses all the time. I

feel violated. How do I even begin to process this? In court. Literally. Yeah. I'm curious too if she adds anything else about characteristics of this guy because You don't make a whole account without someone knowing, even if they're awake. Asleep? That's so scary. I know. It's like, it's so scary.

Him doing it one time and posting it without her consent, and then showing her the next morning and being like, haha, I had no idea that this would, like anyone would see it, just thought it was funny. That even is a huge red flag. But like at least he's telling her and at least it's like, kind of like, oh, I just thought this was funny and, and then she can be like, don't put that there, X, Y, Z. But no, it is, it's completely violating.

It's, it's a hundred percent of violation. Like you don't... People need to consent to being recorded in the comfort of their own bed while they're sleeping and having it posted. Regardless of it's your wife or not, or you think it's cute. Like it's up to that other person. And even if he did this without sharing it, it's creepy. It's not okay. It's really weird. Like, and like, you know what I mean? Like, even if he just had it, like, on his, I feel like we've

had a story about this before. Well, it's like, I think it's one thing to, like, Justin sleep talks. And I think it's the cutest thing in the world, especially if, like, he's really out of it. I can, like, kind of get him going and have conversations with him. So like- But then you show him. So I'll record it and then I do show him, I tell him about it, but I also wouldn't share it anywhere. But my point is that-

And his face isn't in it. Like he's just, it's dark and he's just talking. Yeah, but my point is that even if like, but you show him, right? Like you tell him about it. Like you're like- So it's like even if like you but you show him right like you tell him about it Like you're like so it's like if you were to have like a whole album of like Justin sleeping and never mentioned it to him You would be such a creep like you know that's weird. Yeah, so weird. Yeah, we okay actually now I remember we did have a story like that a long long time ago

But it was actually like the one exception where she was like, okay, this is really, really messed up. But she was like, I was doing a, uh, and I think she had like came with proof. She was doing a project for school where it was like monitoring like the sounds of snoring each night, like based off of like REM sleep. Oh my God, it was a guy. It was a guy writing in that, um that he had discovered his girlfriend was recording him sleeping and it was for a college project.

Yeah, exactly. And I think she said that the reason she didn't want to tell him was like she didn't want him to... I don't remember why actually. Maybe that one was weird too. I think it was weird too. I'm trying to find it on my THT master stories doc that I have. Yeah, but like I'm like even even that like is yeah, even that's creepy and that's like

for an actual reason for a school project. So yeah, there's really no getting around this one. It's pretty bad, pretty concerning. Definitely breakup worthy. Did they say husband though? Husband. That's tough. Husband and the way she found out too.

To find out from your co-worker. Being like, oh this looks like you. And you're like, that is me. In my bed. I'm like, I just, I hate to like jump too quick to saying like separate when they're married, but this is definitely, it's very concerning. It is violating.

If I'm playing devil's advocate, I could say maybe he just didn't realize the severity and just thought he was being goofy. But even so, then he's a huge idiot and that's a huge red flag. So it's just, it's not a lot of good options. So red flag how dumb you are. Yeah. And I was gonna say, like there are accounts that I've even seen where they post videos of themselves

like doing weird stuff in their sleep. Like I think there's a huge TikToker who posts her sleepwalking videos and they're really entertaining. Right. But she's the one posting them. Yeah, I mean, consent is all the difference of everything. I know.

Yeah. So we don't have any comments from OP, no update, but let's get into the top comment on this one. Yeah. You're going to want to go through his phone, laptop, and any online file storage. This is weirdo behavior. Next comment. If he's doing this with her sleeping, you have to wonder

if he has some private accounts of other things. It just makes me worried that with this story, there's more that what if there's more like what if something else is happening like because this is a violation. Yeah. So what else is he doing? Yeah. And again, it's reminding me of like a real life thing where there was a woman in France recently that took her husband to court because he was drugging her and letting other men come to their house. That is terrifying.

It was so, so bad. And like, that's kind of what everyone in the comments is getting into like, when someone goes, wait, you sleep in your bra? Aside from it though, it's a huge trust violation getting into like, one someone goes, wait, you sleep in your bra? Aside from it though, it's a huge trust violation coming from your supposedly closest person. It would be a deal breaker for me. And the next comment, right?

The bra thing aside, lol who cares? The bigger issue is the total lack of respect. It's not just a funny video when someone you trust secretly records and posts intimate moments while you're unconscious and for strangers to watch. That's not cute. It's creepy. Definitely feels like a deal breaker to me too.

And then next comment down. Yep. After following the Dominique Pellicote case, I would be very concerned. Look it up if you don't know. I don't know if I want to. I'm sure you wouldn't. Also, I'm sorry if I butchered her last name. Pellico, Pellicot.

So bad. I'm sure you also I'm sorry if I butchered her last name Pellico Pelicot You are you can discuss that with your other co-hosts on your other podcast. It is it is kind of a clues type case Huh, that's crazy Wow, wow, wow, like that is such a fucking choice to make a really fucking bad one a commitment to do I'm just like, what is wrong with people? What is wrong with people? Yeah, a lot. There's a lot wrong with people. We need to get to this one because like,

I need something that's not so heavy. And this is crazy, but not like heavy. Yeah, I honestly, when I saw that title, like I guess in my head, I didn't even think of it as being heavy. But then as I started making the associations, I was like, this is actually like a really big red flag. Yeah, I mean, you never know, like a title can be deceiving. And like, maybe some of you out there like no, Morgan, it's not my first rodeo. I hear that title and I know where it's going. Yeah, but like it piques your interest to where you want to get into it.

And then once you really get the context, you're like, oh, yeah. I mean, it was more of the fact that I just didn't think that deep into it because, you know, I was just skimming through titles. So once we. It's all good. It was a good story. Don't feel bad about it. OK. You're good. You're good, little doggy. You're good. I just don't want to be too heavy, you know?

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Okay, number three here. It is titled, Girlfriend, 27 Female, Got a Massive Tattoo for Me, 31 Male. I've been with my girlfriend for almost a year. I've always made sure she knew that I wanted to take things very slow, and I didn't want anything too serious right now. I've only been divorced for a year, and I have primary custody of my kids, two and four. So they are, and have always been, my priority. I can't stress how clear I was about keeping our relationship casual.

Anyways, I have a lot of tattoos. I won't pretend like they're all super meaningful, but most of the bigger pieces are related to my hobbies, friends, family, random shit I'm into. My girlfriend only had the tiniest tattoo on her ankle. I was away last week doing the Vegas bachelor party slash road trip thing and she texts me that she has a surprise for me and sends me a pic of the tattoo. It is a tree that starts at where her ass meets leg, not sure of the name for that, and ending at the back of her neck. What? The branches have shitty tattoos that are copies of many of my tattoos.

A few in particular piss me off. One is a copy of a tattoo my buddies and I got done to commemorate a friend that died. Another is very similar to one of mine that was inspired by a drawing my kid did. I showed it to my friends and they all think she is fucking crazy. Well yeah. Wait, wait, from below her butt up to her neck? So it's like all over her butt too? All the way up. Whoa. I don't know how this tree branches.

I don't think I've ever seen a tattoo do that either on top of it. If anyone has, can you send me a photo? I don't even know what that would look like. We can Google to see. Her explanation is just that she liked my tattoos so she wanted to get similar ones but in her own design. And she did it to honor me. She said she got it done for me. She went to a shitty artist, so it looks pretty bad and the design

isn't too great in itself, which I think defeats the purpose of honoring someone. And they mean literally nothing to her. That's wild. Between her copying my tattoos and having a genuinely shitty tattoo covering her entire backside, I really don't find her sexy anymore. It is a huge mood killer. She was my dream girl in bed, so without that, there isn't much left. Oh.

I'm starting to consider just breaking up with her because what she did seems so insane. On the other hand, we've been dating for almost a year and I'm really into her and now that she has this giant tattoo that's honoring me, breaking up would just suck. Opinions? Um, no. I mean, she just needs to learn a hard lesson right now. So yeah, I think you should break up with her for her own good. God, can you imagine?

Like you get a full body tattoo. Except it was this guy will be official. He'll date you. Yeah. And then he breaks up with you after you just got a basically Ass to neck tattoo Well, there's this phrase The irony of that right like she's doing something to try to like

Totally lock him in and it does the complete opposite. Yeah, and there's this phrase where it's like relationships are like holding Sand in the palm of your hand. If you just let it sit and nurture, then it doesn't go anywhere. If you squeeze it, it will fall in between your fingers and you'll lose it. And so it just that's that phrase when I hear stuff like that, I always think about that. Like don't squeeze too hard. You'll literally lose it. You just backfired. I just backfired. I just backfired.

You just backfired so much. I just backfired. Yeah, I did. I just envisioned a car going, did you hear? I was like gurgled. So anyway, yeah, I feel bad for her. But at the same time, I'm also worried about her mental health to think to do this without speaking to this person and I don't know. Yeah, I also don't know what she was thinking because it's like, you're, you're taking very personal tattoos that don't really have meaning to you and putting them on your body in honor

of him. But like, I don't know why you couldn't deduce that maybe he wouldn't like that. Maybe he wouldn't like you copying him or like why such a big grand gesture could have the opposite effect. And like, it's a lot of pressure. I'm like a catastrophizer. So like when I think about decisions and making a choice, I like think about the worst case scenario for each one. That's the way my brain works with a lot of stuff. Can't predict everything, unfortunately. But you, you, you're critical thinking about

things. You at least think about some of the consequences, right? And how did how did none of those cross her mind that she just thought he'd be so... Was she like wasted when she did it? I mean no. Also just wanted to point out one thing that he said that's also like was a red flag to me. Yeah, thank you. He was like, she's my dream girl in bed and without that we have nothing.

Wait, did I did you say that? Am I hearing that right? That you should have been with her in the beginning if that's all you guys have. And this is why anyone out there, if you're in a situationship and you've been holding out hope that a person you've been seeing for six months is finally going to wake up one day and be with you, after six months, they're not going to. And if you give them an ultimatum and if you like do a grand gesture that finally locks them in, like, I don't think- Still temporary.

It's not for the right reasons and it's gonna end a lot of times in situations like cheating or it doesn't work out. Like if someone wants to be with you, they will make it very clear from the start. And I've got great examples. Like I was obsessed with this guy that I met in Minnesota. He played hockey. He would come there and train in the summer and then like was out here playing on like professional teams. I would drive to San Diego to go watch his games.

I drove to San Francisco to go watch his games. Like I made so much effort to try to get this person to like see me. And no matter what I did, no matter how much we had in common, no matter how much chemistry we had, it just like didn't work. Meanwhile, enter Justin. And it was the exact opposite. Like I had to beat that boy off with a stick. Like he put so much effort.

He was always following up. He was always like asking me on thoughtful dates. And he asked me to be his girlfriend within like two months. Like, sorry, I'm just laughing beat him off with a stick. That could sound all kinds of ways. Hey, anyway, go on a good way. It was just so different. And like, I think that's why it took me so long to like mentally like shift with Justin because I was like, and I even I remember telling, I think it was you or Alejandro or someone to be like, is this what it is like

when someone actually likes you? Because it was like, truly, it was such a shift in effort and it's just, it's so different. So with this guy, he's like, I've made it crystal clear. I want nothing but casual. Yeah, but at the same time, you've been dating this person for a year. Yeah. After a year, it stops being casual.

Of course. Yeah. So they're both at fault. Her just a little more dramatically. Yeah. So I found some images of tattoos just to kind of give us an idea. This is one that goes just kind of like lower back up to the back of the neck. I mean, I've seen that. I've, I just haven't seen one that goes underneath kind of like lower back up to the back of the neck.

I've seen that. I just haven't seen one that goes underneath the butt cheek. Like, because then you have the curvature. So I'm like, how are we staying consistent? I can't find any good ass tats. But like I could imagine this one, this next image I pulled up is a like cherry blossom tree. And the tattoo goes from kind of left shoulder down across the back and ends on the right flank. I'm using a horse term, flank, oblique. Or what flank means. It's a horse body part. Flank, it's like, it would be, nevermind, nevermind. So I could envision like the tree kind of like wrapping down and then kind of keeping the same continuation under the butt.

Yeah. Think about like cheeky shorts, like where a little cheek pops out, you'd see the tat under the cheeky shorts. Yeah. Either way, it's a lot. It is way too big of a commitment to make to someone that you've been casually seeing for a year. That's for sure.

And yeah, it kind of reminds me of the wrong missy just like What what's that the movie of the wrong missy? It's so funny. Oh my god. You got to watch it I think you would love it. It's so ridiculous. It's it's fantastic. Okay, um But yeah pretty crazy energy, so I don't necessarily think this is a relationship that should... No. Continue on. Like specifically the way that he like speaks on about her too.

Exactly. Yeah, it's like do her a favor and let her go. Do her a favor. You've been using her. Right. And I think that's clear. He's been using her. He's been having his cake and eating it too

by being like, well, I don't want anything serious. I only want casual, but like, hey, I don't want anything serious. I only want casual. But like, hey, you're the dream girl in bed. He got to have his cake and eat it too. Truly you guys, like don't waste your time on people that you like them way more than they like you. So, you know, I was actually talking to a friend about this because I do think based off like specifically what you were saying too, you you know I don't think it's out of the ordinary for girls to maybe go from

one relationship where they feel like they're chasing and trying to prove themselves to dating someone who is chasing them and then not being interested and I think that the psychology behind that is that you're chasing a guy and trying to prove yourself and so it's almost like a Like a human instinct that we start like playing a game in our own head like being like Oh if this guy who's hard to get likes me that will prove that I'm valuable that I'm more valuable that I'm worthy And if you meet someone who likes you instantly then it's like oh that doesn't give me the challenge to prove that I'm worthy So I don't know if I'm interested in him.

Like I feel like it's almost this like mental like mind fuck in a way that happens more common than we would think. Absolutely. And I think our brain chemistry also kind of traps us in that. For guys, guys love hormone is secreted when they're stressed. So if a guy is like in this relationship that's very like maybe toxic or stressful, the love hormone gets secreted for guys. It can happen for women as well, but like I think, oh, I'm really butchering

this. Regardless of like what it is, like if you have these insane highs, you're going to have like oxytocin, you're gonna have dopamine. You can get dopamine from playing Candy Crush. So that's why like a lot of psychologists, if you, you know, follow any, or if you listen to like couples counselors talk, it's like butterflies and getting butterflies might be good early on, but it's not good sustainably. Like you shouldn't have that anxiety forever. And so they talk about that where it's like a good healthy relationship isn't highs and lows. It's not this like fireworks

all the time. It's actually just feeling comfortable and safe. And our brains can really resist it sometimes. Resist it and send us down the wrong path. Which is so interesting because we all like feel feel rationally, this is what we want. We want a safe, wonderful, stable relationship. But then it's like when you get to that dating stage, it's like, why are we fleeing the scene when it feels like that? What's happening? Why are people not jumping into that relationship when it looks like all green flags?

And just exactly that. I just think there's a lot of like psychology and chemists and like actual chemistry involved in it. Yeah, our brains are little like chemistry machines. I saw a quote the other day too, that like really fits with this. And if you're thinking about like, breaking up with someone who you love so much, like you can't imagine not being with them, but like at the same time, you know, they're not right. You know, they don't make you feel good. There's a quote that says, imagine how much you can love the right person for you if you love the wrong one this much.

And it's like, you have so much love to give so much. And imagine just imagine if you if that's reciprocated equally, or if it's truly someone that's healthy and good for you. Right. You know what's so funny too, like going off of that, I actually had such a hard time with a breakup with a relationship that I felt was the wrong relationship for me, that it was bad for me. And so I was like, why am I struggling so much with this breakup? And I said to a friend,

if I struggled this much with a relationship that I knew was wrong for me, how am I gonna be if a relationship ends that was a healthy relationship? And the friend was like, you'll be much better because you'll be whole. And if you're in a healthy relationship, the split will, you'll feel yourself.

When you're in an unhealthy relationship. It hurts so bad because part of you was ripped apart, but you weren't your full self when you were in that relationship. Like now you're broken, you're not your whole. And so that's why it hurts so much. And I just think about that from time to time because it's something I had never thought until they said that. But yeah, I think we will associate like, oh, this relationship hurt me so badly that

it must be I should go back to it. I had so much passion for that relationship. But it's because that person wasn't good for you and you weren't your full version of yourself that you were like clawing at them to make you full. But anyway, it was just a concept that I that stuck out to me. And I just think that if you're somebody who is reflecting on relationships and thinking that you loved somebody more because the breakup hurt more, really reflect on if it's just because of how chaotic it felt to be in an unhealthy relationship or if it's really like

that person. Yeah. I know our brains are really crazy with what they'll make these unhealthy relationships feel like in our minds. And I'm like, I haven't had a neuroscience class in so, so long, but there's a variety of these neurotransmitters that like it can almost Mimic an addiction. Yeah, that's what's so crazy It can make your brain feel the same way that like an addiction does like toxic relationships can absolutely

It's just it's wild but We have some comments for this one a lot of people are just like She is crazy. That is so completely insane. I would run, run far. If she got a tattoo to commemorate something special between you two, meh. But to copy your tattoos? That shit crazy. And ones that were so personal to a life before her. OP responds, I haven't explained what they all mean to her, so she might not know that the one tattoo is commemorating my friend, but still, it's pretty crazy, right? And yeah, like, if she doesn't even know that a tattoo has this meaning of like, this is

for my friend that passed, but she chooses to get it, that's really weird. Yeah. I mean, what if the tattoo was referring to his sex life with a past partner and she got that on her? Like, how silly would that be? Oh my gosh. You know? Like, that's ridiculous.

Especially for someone, if she was like a tattoo fanatic, I'd be like, yeah, whatever, some people just don't look at it that way. She didn't even have tattoos before. She had a little anklet tattoo. Like that, no. Yeah, that's... Yeah. We got to get some help in on that on that one well we have an update oh first post was removed but it

was about how my girlfriend got a tattoo of a tree and on the branches were copies of some of my tattoos a couple that were very personal memorial piece for a friend and drawn by my kid I thought I had been very clear about not wanting anything serious. Quick update. We broke up. I tried to stick it out, but the tattoo was too much of a turn-off and I just didn't find her attractive anymore. Which is the opposite of what she had intended with it. The breakup went about as expected. She completely lost it, and yes, she was mad because she thought it would lead

to something more serious eventually. My artist agreed to finish the piece for her, and he will cover up the bits that match my tattoos. It should be very easy since there wasn't any shading done yet. I'm glad she agreed to see him, because now her tattoo has a chance of looking decent, and I can be certain that it will be properly covered up. I tried to get her to explain to me why she thought it was a good idea, but all she kept saying was that she truly believed that I would like it, and she thought it would help move our relationship to the next level. I told her that she should see a therapist and she told me to fuck off.

So there you have it. I mean, I'm really curious. I wish I had a voice note of how you said it because like, you should see a therapist. Yeah, you can't really say that to people in a situation like this. I think it is implied. It can come off very offensive if you don't say it correctly. You gotta be delicate if you actually really are saying that with the good of your heart. Exactly. But moving along. I'm actually now kind of laughing at the idea.

If somebody were to be like, hey Lauren, I'm going to now kind of laughing at the idea like if somebody were to be like hey Lauren I'm gonna break up with you and you should seek therapy. I would be like I'll go go fuck yourself. Yeah, I Mean like when someone throws it in your face like that Yeah, it's not well, it's not gonna be well received and it feels like a dig where it's like You're just kind of degrading me in a moment where I'm already getting shitted on like you're you're breaking up with me which yeah hey rightfully so I realized what I did was wrong and it was a bit much came on too strong too fast too soon whatever yeah but also like you

don't need to throw it in my face like I think I kind of can read between the lines here I maybe not everyone can. Yeah, I mean, maybe now that you guys are broken up, maybe let one of her friends or family members suggest that. But, yeah. I mean, I wasn't a big fan of OP in general, so. No, it's written. I do like that OP says that he is a good dad.

That's always a plus. But yeah, maybe just like don't date right now and focus on being a good dad. And that's that. If you want something actually casual, make it actually casual. Don't string someone along. Yeah. But okay, moving along. OK, now it is time for a very special segment this episode.

I don't even know. I know. I'm surprised in you. I'm really excited for this. Oh my god. It's going to be a test of how well we know each other. Oh. I know.

OK. Ah! I'm nervous. I'm so scared. I'm really, it's going to be good. So we have a new segment. It's a freakier take, which is sponsored by Disney's Freakier Friday.

Oh my God. You guys, I'm freaking out. I was, oh my God. I was in the movie theater the other day and the ad for it came, or the trailer came on. And I literally was like, I was losing my mind. I almost watched that movie the other day because I was just thinking like, Freaky Friday, it just slaps. It's so good.

And I can't believe that they have the same cast. I'm literally going to throw up thinking about it. I'm so happy. As you mentioned, Lauren, same cast. Jamie Lee Curtis and Lindsay Lohan are back. You're forgetting about Chad. And this time, the whole family is switching. It's wilder, weirder, and more heartwarming than ever.

So in the spirit of total chaos, we've found a thread that is giving major Freakier Friday energy. Loving this. And let me explain why. So this next one, Lauren, we are going to be swapping places in our takes. Oh my god. I get to be you and you get to be me. I can't believe you have a Freaky Friday ad that's such a flex.

Okay so this one is titled, am I wrong for telling my mom she can't tell everyone I'm pregnant? I'm 17 weeks pregnant and my mom wants to tell everybody. I told her no. For some context, I don't care if people know, but my mom has always been the type to tell all of my business to everyone. When I first got pregnant, I asked her not to tell anyone yet because it was just too early.

I went to church and she had told everyone already. She has always been the type of person to tell everyone about me, even the things which are obviously personal to me. She is not good at boundaries in any way, even when I repeat them to the point where I have to dismiss myself from conversations. My main goal is to get her to understand my boundaries, and one of them is that I do not like people to know everything about me, especially things I'm not comfortable sharing. There are things I do tell my mom that it's okay to share, but this is one of the things I told her I'm not comfortable with yet.

Also to add, she talks to several people who I'm not big fans of. They overstep boundaries also and are not respectful to her or I. So am I wrong? No. How would I respond Lauren? If I were Morgan, I would answer this kind of in a pragmatic way where it's just you are your own person, your mom's your own person, you're definitely not wrong. There needs to be boundaries, and sometimes family members push those boundaries. But if this were a friend, you would probably cut the friend off and stop telling them things.

And you need to kind of enforce those boundaries with your mom, because it's not the way that you want to live your life. You are two separate people and it sounds like your mom is looking at you as an extension of herself and feeling very confident and comfortable sharing your information as if it's her own to share. And that needs to change. Okay, well, I don't even know if I would her own to share. And that needs to change.

Okay, well, I don't even know if I would have been that good. That was really good, Lauren. I totally would have said information diet. Like, I feel like I would have totally said that too. I would have been like, you need to put your mom on a little bit of an information diet. That was really good. Okay, the bar is set high.

Okay, if I were Lauren, Lauren always comes from such an empathetic, well thought out place in her takes. And you really do like to give people the benefit of the doubt. So I would say this, did your mom cross a boundary? Yes. Is it okay? No. And you definitely need to just choose you and what's best for your mental health and

your pregnancy because you are doing such a big amazing thing right now of like growing this little human inside of you. But at the same time, you know, maybe your mom just got way too excited and kind of lost herself in this news, especially if this is her first grandbaby. So you know, is it okay? No. Going forward, I think try not to share as much with her, but you know, maybe a little bit more grace in this one and just focus on you and the

baby and just enjoying the rest of your pregnancy. Forget the haters. Softie. What would you say? What would you, do you have anything to add? No, that was pretty good. I just think that there was a couple things that you were a little too nice. Oh!

But I do have moments like that. You like a devil's advocate from time to time. Yeah, and sometimes I do, with stories, get a little bit in the weeds of let's look at it and flip it around and see it from a different perspective. So I definitely, there was things you were saying that I heard in me, and then there was moments where I'm like, no, no, no, I'm like, turn

it up a little bit. Go in, go in. Turn it up a little bit. But no, that was pretty good. Okay, thank you. What else do you have to add? How do you want to turn it up? I'll add some of what I said for you.

Oh my God, I love it. That honestly, that gave me so much stress trying to be in your shoes. Right? That was so stressful. Yeah. Okay guys, if that gave you secondhand stress, imagine going through it in your mom's body. Imagine a fight you've had with your mom recently. Imagine flipping places.

Oh God. No. Yeah. But hey, perfect summer event for the whole family. Disney's Freak Your Friday Hits Theaters August 8. Get your tickets now. Rated PG. If I switch with my mom, would I also have her like mental strength? I think no. No, it's just her body. And then have to like have her problems because everyone thinks you're your mom.

Yeah. Okay. I think it'd be fun to switch to my mom for a day. Just hang out with all of her friends and... Your mom goes cold plunging. She just like has like these crazy adventures. Yeah. She has a good time with a bunch of good people around her.

So it wouldn't be bad. I can say the same thing. My mom is just like a little go-getter, hardworking driven, just a free spirit. A little out there. We drive each other crazy. Kind of like these two in this movie. But I hope you guys enjoyed that. It was fun.

I'm very, very excited about this movie coming out. Me too. We can go see it together. I'm down. We can do a little date night. What's the date? Hits theaters August 8th, baby. Oh my God it together. I'm down. We can do a little date night. What's the date? Hits theaters August 8th, baby.

Oh my god. Yes! August 8th! I get so sad when I learn about movies like a year in advance. No, this one's just about around the corner for us. So happy. August 8th. Okay, moving along to our next one. Okay, this next one is coming from r slash relationship advice. At the time I

found it, it was only 17 minutes old and I don't want to refresh it to find out what it is now in case it's gone. Oh God, yeah. Because it seems like it's going to be really good. I've only read the title and based on that, I'm like, it's definitely a choice. So this one is titled, is it unhealthy that me, 21 female, and my partner, 21 male, spar when we're angry? Spar? It's like fake fight if you're trained in like karate or taekwondo, jiu-jitsu, like when you fight. Speaking of Lindsay Lohan, I just watched Parent Trap the other day

and what I was picturing was them fencing. That could be sparring. That would be kind of an awesome way to handle an argument with a partner. Let's find out some more. Fencing. The title basically says it, but my boyfriend and I, when we get into arguments,

put on gear and spar it out. Wow. We are both into martial arts, gym, and hotheads. We are the type to release stress through physical activity like the gym, sex, etc. Lately, we've been getting through some major growing pains, and verbal arguments have ensued. A few months ago, we got into a really bad argument, which resulted in both of us going to the gym and hitting the bag. I punched it until my knuckles almost bled. I was so upset.

Not necessarily at him, but more at myself for how I dealt with the situation. After that, he asked me if it would make me feel better to try and hit him. So we began sparring. At first, it was mostly me just putting on gloves, trying to hit him, and he just practiced dodging. He's nearly a foot taller than me, I'm petite and quite light, so it's virtually impossible for me to hurt him. Over the course of the few months, we have evolved it into full-on matches in our living room until one of us calls it quits. When he hits me, he usually

purposefully lets up a bit and doesn't hit me with full force. Of course, we do it in full gear, pads, gloves, etc. so no one gets hurt. It's fun, we flirt while we do it, it's not unrelenting rage, but more like, I'm going to wipe that stupid smirk off your face if it's the last thing I do today. By the time one of us is on the floor, we are so physically exhausted we cannot possibly argue anymore. We don't resolve all arguments like this, maybe 10 to 15 percent, and we both ask if

the other is interested before engaging. Quote, I literally feel like screaming at you. Can we go at it a bit? A couple of my friends think it's really bad that we are essentially resolving arguments by hitting each other. Borderline abuse to them. Is this just going to lead into physical abuse, or is this just an unconventional, but not bad, way of dealing with anger? Um...

... Okay. This is a new one. This is a very unique problem. Just when I started to wonder if we were just going to get repeat stories at this point, no, there's always something out there. I'm going to go with stop doing that. Option A, stop.

Yeah. I get the logic behind it. I don't think you guys are crazy for testing this out, specifically with the background of the, that this is what you guys do in general to release stress. It's how you work out. And so I get how that kind of you guys fell into trying that out. But like that's, you're treading a very dangerous line and very dangerous territory. And I just think that there's a lot of room for a mistake to happen there. When you start having a muscle memory of throwing your fists at the person you're dating because you're upset with them.

Like that is building something that I just don't think should be a go to. I agree. And we've talked so much about brain chemistry. Like I'm sure maybe a neuroscientist in our community could chime in and be like, even be a go-to. I agree. And we've talked so much about brain chemistry. I'm sure maybe a neuroscientist in our community could chime in and be like, even from a neuro standpoint, that is just confirming these muscle memory, but also these pathways, these neural pathways in the brain that this is how you solve conflict is through fighting this high adrenaline, crazy heightened heightened thing versus like, we're

going to be rational, calm, and use our words. It doesn't seem super healthy, especially given that it's not in the gym. It's not them going to the gym, putting on their equipment, being in a place that is mats, padded, safe for sparrows and other people. You're doing this in your home. Would you like push all the furniture and then you're like, let's fucking go.

And also like the whole like, I'm gonna wipe that smirk off your face. Like that doesn't even sound healthy. That's not a good example. I didn't like that. That's a bad example. Yeah, that's really bad. Yeah, that was like used as if it was supposed to lighten it up.

No. And it's like, like you're, you want to punish your partner in this fight and make them like submit to you? Like, oh, tap out. We go until one of us taps out. It's likely you. He's bigger than you. Yeah, well, exactly.

I mean, I'm like, if it was like two people that were the same size, like maybe a little less concerning, but still pretty equally as concerning. But the fact that you guys are also like on such a different level of strength and that one could really hurt the other one more than the other, it's just not a good idea. This is unhinged to me. And I'm curious, like if anyone anyone out there has ever, like, played wrestled with their partner. Like, I feel like at least once in your life, you might have tried that,

or, like, you try to tickle your partner, and then they kind of like, ah, no, don't tickle me. Like, there's that. But it also feels like these two are very trained in martial arts, and they're using this skill and this like I know like some people might laugh when I say weapon but like if you get to a certain level in martial arts like you are a weapon and it's like you're using this against your partner and also how are you solving the argument you're not even

like working through the problem you're just kicking each other's asses. Exactly. You're just getting out energy and you're not even solving the problem. I'm so bewildered. Yeah. So there are only, at this point in time, three comments on this post. It's two days old now. I did refresh. Okay, I was gonna pass. It's still there. Top comment, whatever floats your boat, if it helps in your relationship, who are we to say it's wrong? Me. And me. I am.

Next comment, I am intrigued by this approach. I think if you have rules around it, both have to consent, using gear, having a safe word to indicate it's time to stop, I can't see a problem with it. To be honest, it sounds kind of refreshing. Whatever, guys. Last but not least, comment. Wow, I never heard of someone doing this with their partner and crazy's thing that it's actually working too. My God, LOL. Okay, but how is it working? Because you guys keep fighting.

LOL. Okay, but how is it working? Because you guys keep fighting. Even like take away the actual physical aspect of it. It sounds like you guys are getting into arguments a lot. And so even that in itself, you should take a beat and be like, wait, where are we going so wrong that we've literally feel like we have to get in physical altercations safely this often. And then almost it's like, are you guys going to start training yourselves if you like that?

Are you going to start training yourselves to get an argument so that you guys can fight it out? Oh my God, true. Like, I don't know, I just don't. Where does it stop? Where does it, yeah. What's the line? And like, I mean, sure, with these comments, it's like, yeah, if you guys genuinely are staying safe, if it floats your boat, if that's what makes you guys happy, like, whatever, do you guys.

But like, I think, again, that it's you're asking the question. And my honest opinion is that you you're like treading dangerous water. I think so. Is that a phrase? treading dangerous water? I feel like it is. Let's make it if it's not. Taking a note from my book. Literally. We're still in the swapped mode. Yeah. I feel like this isn't a bad thing necessarily either to do as a couple, but again, in the gym and like, hey, Friday nights,

date night, let's go spar. Like it could turn them on. It could be fun for them, but like using it to solve a relationship problem seems counterintuitive. Yeah. I need a relationship therapist. Like is this normal and we just don't understand the fight scene? Like what happens in fight club stays in fight club? Like are we just not equipped? Is this out of our depth? I mean so so clearly, but like, you know, I just I think that if they were to keep it in the gym I would be a little more open to the idea. But like I don't your neighbors are gonna call the police on you guys Okay, I was wondering about that. Can you imagine like here? We're literally sitting in the studio recording and someone above us is like walking and the floors are so creaky but can you imagine all of a sudden above us you just hear like

BAM B, and like the lights are rocking and it's like, what are they doing up there? Like that's brutal to put your neighbors through. Yeah, yeah. I just, and I just think that like, what if it gets to be a really bad fight and like he loses himself in it and like makes a mistake, accidentally tries to punch air and punches your face. Cops get called because it's really loud.

The cops see that your partner has a black eye and busted face and you guys, and she has to be like, no, it was an accident. Oh, okay. He's going to jail. Like, you know what he means? Yeah, they are running that risk. It's just like, I don't know. I just don't, I don't like the setup of it at all.

But again, if you guys are happy with it, sure. But like, if you're asking my honest opinion, I'm not going to recommend it. No. Uh, we don't have any comments or updates from OP. This account, however, is five years old. It is a part of the five-year club, has a verified email, has unlocked quite a few different Reddit achievements. So it's giving real. Yeah. Unfortunately. I'm like, this is just exhausting. And that's the other thing about

this. This is so, it just sounds exhausting, but I'm not into fighting. So I'm not, I don't know, I'm not the target. Solve relationship conflicts through fighting audience, I guess. Won't be me. I feel you. Okay, moving on to this next one. No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. This is coming from Emma the Asshole. It is titled, Emma the Asshole for telling my father-in-law he can't hump the floor at my house or in my presence. Crazy title, and I wish it wasn't true, but here we are. Unfortunately, I'm asking because I'm possibly in a state of being gaslit or I actually can't take a joke and I can't see it. My father-in-law, late 50s, is known for being very playful. Goofy,

some would even say. Well him, my mother-in-law, late 50s, and three sibling-in-laws, 20 male, 27 male, 28 female, came to stay with my husband and I at our house. 28 female, 30 male, and I to see our new baby, seven months. We put the little one to bed, and we were all in the living room area hanging out, doing stretches, just casually talking, when father-in-law decided it would be a funny time to start humping the ground out of nowhere. And unfortunately, it was directly in front of me, not mother-in-law. Mother-in-law and I looked at each other in shock while his children all laughed and chuckled. Father-in-law made it clear that the gesture was meant for his wife despite it being directly in front of me, with eye contact. Eww. So we dropped it. The night passed, they left town, and after a few days of not being able to shake the

image in my head, I decided to talk with my husband about how uncomfortable it made me, along with other sexual jokes he makes about all of us being married, etc. There's been this big divide now on how I'm always ruining the fun, how it was just a joke and not a sexual gesture, and how I'll always find a problem when my husband's family is in town. His family thinks this. However, when I speak with my mom, sister, cousins, and anyone on my side of the world, they see his jokes and gesture as totally inappropriate. My father-in-law tried to make the point that I've done TikTok dances in his home with the other siblings-in-law and my husband, and he's never felt uncomfortable because he knows they're harmless and that it's not fair for me to judge him about this versus knowing his intent, which was

just to make it a joke. My point is, even though I'm not on TikTok and don't post videos, everything I've done is postable. Him stroking the ground is not. My husband got mad at me for not seeing it as a joke, and so did the other married siblings who were in the room that were raised by father-in-law. So am I the asshole for saying that my father-in-law humping the floor in my home and presents made me uncomfortable and drawing that boundary? I genuinely would appreciate feedback because I plan to have another conversation soon, and I want to know that I'm coming into the conversation grounded in reality. I

Mean my first thought is no, you're not the asshole. That's so weird and the eye contact like no That's so messed up being the ground. I like so how are we humping? That's exactly one that actually that will change things for me because if he's just doing like the worm, like let's say he's doing the worm and she thinks that's humping. Oh my god, that thought, like I'm envisioning only sexual humping motions. Yeah, same. But if she, if he's actually doing the worm and calling it humping, oh my god, we need to know.

I know, that's what I'm saying. Because at first I was like, this is a no-brainer, but then I was like, well, what's her definition of humping? Of humping. Like, is he, because if the entire rest of his family is like not even fazed by it, then it's like, you know, is he really actually humping or is he trying to do a dance move? Because he's comparing it to her having dance moves that are like quote-unquote sexual and so my god I wonder if it was actually the worm oh my gosh okay we'll see if we have any

comments from OP I was fully envisioning like dog humping that's like the only thing that came to mind for me and then I'm like if he's making eye contact with her and like pretending like he's a little dog humping a pillow or like, you know what I mean? Oh God. Yeah. Like that's what I'm envisioning. Like, ew. And he's looking at her. But it's meant for his wife, even though he's looking at her. Like, yeah. If my father-in-law ever, I was picturing him like a pushup, but in position and then like banging himself. Yeah, like a missionary pump. Yeah. Okay.

I also, for some reason, had the little image of like a Chihuahua humping a leg. Okay. And I was like, if he went up and was like anywhere near her leg, then like, game over. But like the context of the hump definitely matters. Yes, I agree. Oh my god. Okay. I am like beyond curious. Yeah. So this is somewhat recently. This post is only a month old. Top comment on it. Can your husband explain the joke to you and his mother?

Can father-in-law? Because I don't get it either. Just straight up gross. OP responds, this is a good point and I'm wondering if I should actually ask to see what the response is. Next comment down, exactly. Say you don't get it. Ask him to explain why it's funny. I'm betting his answer, if he manages to come up with one, will be, it just is. Your response to that should be, quote, but why is it? I just don't get it. Keep asking. Next comment, as a person who loves comedy and hates bad comedy, this is the way.

This is my normal go-to when people say racist or sexist jokes to me. Usually leaves them stammering. And we've talked about that quite a bit on past episodes. Like if you ever get anyone kind of saying an inappropriate joke to you, just be like, I don't get it. Like what, what, can you explain that? I want to, I want to laugh with you, like explain your joke. The next comment I see that's like very awarded yellow box says this, and then the next time you're at dinner with a non-family or friend, bring it up. Oh honey, you have to tell them about that hilarious thing your dad did and then make

him explain it. That way, a third non-biased party can explain that it's inappropriate and not normal. Or he just won't do it because he absolutely knows it's not normal and is just excusing his shitty, creepy-ass behavior to not rock the boat. I don't think that would work because he already knows how she feels about it. They've gotten into an argument over it. And so if she were to say that in a group of people, he would be like, okay, like drop it. Like, can you knock it off? You know what I mean? Like, oh honey, say that hilarious thing. You know what I mean? Like, oh honey, say that hilarious thing, you know what I

mean? He'd be like, can you not with that like sarcasm? So I actually don't feel like that would like get like a genuine. Yeah. Yeah. No. And like to be quite clear, everyone, like not the asshole, extremely weird, inappropriate, especially given the eye contact. Eye contact, yeah. Which as you're asking them to explain that joke, ask them, and why did you make eye contact with me and not your wife? Why were you humping the ground looking at me? Yeah. No, like if it's the way that she's describing it, it's really, really inappropriate. But the only thing that's tripping me up is the fact that the whole family doesn't, that she's describing it, it's really, really inappropriate.

The thing that's tripping me up is the fact that the whole family doesn't, that there's no one from the family that's just like, yeah, he does that all the time, it pisses me off too. There's a comment here, not the asshole. Your in-laws are weird for enabling this behavior. Your husband is weird for getting upset you didn't get the joke. What the fuck? His father made you uncomfortable.

I'd be sick to my stomach if I saw my father-in-law do that. And your husband's reaction is to get upset with you instead of address it with his dad. Gross. All around gross. And I would say like, that is a huge issue in this. Your husband not siding with you. Gaslighting you. Because at the end of the day, if it was meant to be a joke, okay, let's pretend. I don't think so. But you're telling your husband, I feel really uncomfortable by that. Your dad made me feel uncomfortable. Can we please have a boundary where there's no humping on the ground again in front of

me, especially? I just don't want to feel that uncomfortable again. And instead of your husband being like, I'm sorry you feel uncomfortable, I'll make sure I talk to my dad, totally hear you, it's, no, you're wrong. It's a joke. It's funny. You're the problem. You always ruin, every time my family comes over, you always ruin the vibe. You always find a reason to be pissed about something.

That really irked me, and I want to bring that up in the vibe. You always find a reason to be pissed about something. That really irked me and I want to bring that up in the post. The line here, I'm always ruining the fun. How it was just a joke and not sexual and how I'll always find a problem when my husband's family is in town. Okay, so they're saying it wasn't sexual. That's what makes me think that like, is it the worm? I need to know this. I just need to know. Okay, so let's look at comments. Because how is humping not sexual

unless it was genuinely like a dance move? I'm literally, so I'm loading all the comments and I'm gonna search the word worm. There are so many comments from OP. Looking like a real account, OP is a part of the one year club on Reddit. So it's looking real. A post on the account from two years ago is titled,

Am I the asshole for telling my husband it's time to cut ties with his childhood best friend? So, kind of seeming like issues pop up with hubby and like communication and maybe bad influences and inappropriate behavior? Okay, there is no word worm found. So OP has not responded to clarify that this is definitely not the worm. With that being said, I'm going to assume it's it is humping. There's so many comments from OP. I feel like maybe no one's asking the question though.

Maybe I'll send a chat. But it's like I would think a grown person knows the difference between the worm and humping. Mm. Not everyone. Well, also, like, you know the magic mic move? Yeah. That's kind of a version of the worm.

Yeah, it's like a humping worm. It's like a missionary pump, but a worm. Hannah Berners does such a good worm. Hannah Berners is not sexual, so I'm like, I almost want to send her a clip of Hannah and be like, was it this or was it Magic Mike version? Yeah. But like at this, at the same time, I think, think I don't if she's posting that in her own reddit account that she's making him cut off a relationship with his childhood friend

I'm starting to feel like you really shouldn't be in relationships where you you're like alienating somebody from all of the people that they're with mmm because it I Get I totally get what boat you're going on. Yeah, it's, it's like, then they're probably not your person too. And if you have to tell them to continue to cut out people from their life and, and give them ultimatums, you know, not even just helping them support, like to support them, creating healthy boundaries with everyone.

But if you're like, no, he needs to cut this person off. No, he needs to like, you know, his family, like all this stuff, then it's just like, maybe you guys aren't a match to be honest. Well, okay. So that one comment I read, not the asshole, your in-laws are weird for enabling this behavior. Your husband's also weird. OP does respond to that. I agree that the whole family is weird, husband included. It definitely has

made me wonder if something happened in the home that makes it seem normal. Someone responds, why did you have a baby with someone before you examined these questions? OP goes, this is my favorite question because never in a million years would I thought I needed to ask, does your dad hump floors? And is this funny to you? Never. I'm just as shocked. Truthfully, what makes this even worse is that we're a very religious community.

He's an elder, deacon in the church, we're all churchgoers, worship leaders, musicians, all the things. an elder, deacon in the church, we're all churchgoers, worship leaders, musicians, all the things. So I had absolutely no reason to think this would have ever come up until it did. Yeah. No, I mean, I get that. I mean, you can think you know someone through and through and then, you know, they can end up not even being attracted to your gender. I mean, shit happens. I get that. But where we're at right now is it sounds like

you don't really respect your husband and his family. And it sounds like he doesn't really respect you and your values and your boundaries of, and in your own home, you guys can't agree on what boundaries you wanna set about your own home. He should have just been like, it's a joke that my dad does. But if you feel uncomfortable with it in our house, like, I can set that boundary with

him. I can't force him to change and act a certain way. So if we're in their home and he does it, I can't, like, force him not to do whatever. But like, in our home, I can tell him he's going to be kicked out. If he does that, I can set force him not to do whatever, but in our home, I can tell him he's going to be kicked out. If he does that, I can set that boundary. And I think it just shows that they're not a united front. They both think each other are weird and don't respect each other.

So it's just one of those things where it's like, whether the dad was doing the worm or whether the dad was humping, and there's a lot more to that that's questionable, it's just starting to sound like you guys might not be as compatible as you might have thought. So maybe look into that and not focus so much on the dad's action, but what you guys are. Because that's where the real, you know, that's what matters. That's where the real issue or non-issue exists. So figure that out and then discuss the worm or sorry, the humping. It's probably, it's humping. I don't know why I want it to be the worm. I just like, I just want like one glimmer of hope today. Yeah. Between all these stories. Yeah. Just

let it be the worm. I also don't want this to come across like, oh, we're invalidating her experience or we're doubting her story. It's just like, I'm just genuinely curious. I believe her, but like, I'm just, I'm curious. Well, I mean, she's asking, she's like, telling me the truth. And then she starts it off being like, be honest with me. Am I being like over the top with this or do you think I'm in the right? So my point in saying this is that she's genuinely asking a question.

If she were to write in and be like, I'm traumatized. I feel violated. I'm seeking emotional support. Then my answer would be so different. But like she's coming in here being like, guys, can you help me out here? Am I the asshole? Yeah, am I the asshole for thinking this is not a joke? And so, no, and it would be one of those things where it's like info. Yeah. Info. Are you sure this wasn't the

worm? If not the worm, no, this is fucked up. Yeah. That's my spark notes. There you go. TLDR. There you go. Yeah. Sorry, I interrupted you. No, no, it's fine. I mean, and some people might think, like you said, Magic Mike, like humping worm. It's like some people might also think that the view the worm on the same, same category so they don't care about the differentiation. You know what I mean? So like it, your feelings, your experience, it is what it is. If you feel uncomfortable about it, you, you don't need us to tell you if it's okay or

not. You feel uncomfortable and that's the end of the story. My drop right there, Lauren. Yeah. And if you and your husband can't get on the same page with it or setting some type of boundary, making sure you both feel comfortable, then you guys got to look into what you're doing in your relationship. And what the future holds. Yeah.

And I'm not saying jump to divorce, but that's where the problem lies. Like it's, you guys got to figure that out. Well. We have an update? We have an update. Oh, you guys like last time we recorded. We have no updates last time. Yeah, there was no updates and so I keep getting like code switching and I just think that we're kind of wrapping it up.

So sometimes I ramble on a little bit more than usual. And then when you say update, I feel bad that I rambled so long, but let's go. Let's go. All caps. All aboard for the hot mess express. Firstly, thank you to all the responses. I genuinely appreciate the kind, blunt, informative, funny, and not so nice comments because truly I was looking for all perspectives. It felt

reassuring to see that the majority, not all, of you felt like it was, in fact, inappropriate, gross, weird, odd, sick, and especially having folks that aren't like me—religious, jokesters, etc.—still see the behavior as not the best. This is a 24-hour update. So the reason I followed up with my father-in-law and mother-in-law wasn't because my father-in-law never apologized. He did. Reluctantly, but he did.

I followed up with them because of one particular event that happened on the first phone call when my husband, yes, although mad at me, told them that I was uncomfortable. My father-in-law's immediate response to my husband and I saying that I was uncomfortable was that he, father-in-law, was uncomfortable with the fact that I was uncomfortable and that this all made him feel bad because it's not fair that I was uncomfortable. He apologized and truly it could have stopped right there, because he's truly entitled to his feelings. But it didn't stop there.

It got back to me that he was telling the other in-laws, siblings, how I couldn't have fun, I ruin the fun when they're around, he's uncomfortable because I'm looking at him like that, and that it hurts because I don't know him better, etc., etc., etc. Stuff came back up about the TikTok dances and how there was room for interpretation regarding them being inappropriate. Let me clear one thing up. Imagine dances like Millie Rock, Shoot, Duggie, 2000s, hip hop. Imagine church dances that you see in African American culture, since we're religious, like shouting, praising. That. There was no twerking, jiving, or gyrating.

There were maybe six, max eight, videos, and half of them were religious oriented. Nothing seductive. Fully clothed. Very appropriate. And actually, there hasn't been a video of me dancing, nor have I danced there, in maybe the last two to three years. So let's just place that there. Okay.

Him feeling upset wasn't a problem. It was the talking to the in-laws and word getting back to me and me being questioned about why I can't just enjoy the moments and the jokes. It was the, quote, why can't you be happy around them? I explained that our beliefs and values don't align to my brother-in-law, which is who came to me. But for me, this meant one thing clearly. I can't say, quote, I'm uncomfortable, and that simply be received. All the side talk, brother-in-law confirmed, showed me one thing. There clearly was tension and ill things being spoken, so my husband suggested I speak with my in-laws versus immediately

separating myself. Maybe there was a misunderstanding. Let's just talk it out and see. How did that conversation go? As you would expect, terrible. My in-laws were incredibly irate and yelled the majority of the time. The part that hurt them the most was me talking to my mother, who's also a part of the church community. Talking to her meant that I, in their words, exposed him. And now she sees Father-in-law in a different light, their words. One part of the conversation sounded like this, Father-in-law, how would you feel if I told your folks you prostitute? Me, I would feel like that's a lie.

Oh God. Father-in-law, exactly. That's how I feel. Me, except I didn't lie about anything. I just told my mom the facts and how it made me feel. Mother-in-law. Well OP doesn't feel like she lied so she doesn't understand. Me. Where was the lie? I only told them the facts. Father-in-law. But OP, you made me look bad. Mother-in-law. Yeah OP, you've now shown him in a different light and that doesn't show his character. He has a good heart. A lot of our conversations sounded like that.

I'm also realizing a lot of the conversation was rooted in bullying. Some comments sounded like, we can joke with all our married friends and married children about sexual conversation, but we see we can't do that with you. We can't make any jokes around you, so I guess we probably need to be careful with how we talk. Okay, I thought that he said that it wasn't sexual. So now he's saying we get to make sexual jokes around our other friends. So now it sounds like it was.

The tune is switching. Yeah. It's a hump. We just can't make any jokes around you, so I guess we probably need to be careful with how we talk. I don't know how I'll act around you now. Mother-in-law. I told them I wasn't safe to talk to mother-in-law because of what I'm seeing in real time with

the conversation we were having. Reddit readers, when I say it was a bunch of yelling and insulting, saying, don't be dumb, what you did is bad, etc. I'm not kidding. I told them, quote, in the future, I hope that in-laws, their children's spouses, can come to them when something makes them uncomfortable and it be received. They said, quote, aren't you being received now? And I said, quote, no, I'm being met with screaming, insults, threats of being cut off,

and that this is emotionally unsafe. I said that even with expressing myself, Father-in-law is only getting angrier. He agreed. He explained that he's the adult and that I should listen and that's my problem. I shouldn't have talked to anyone. It made him look bad. He said that he doesn't want to talk to me and will move differently with me. He no longer wants to come over to our house. Thank the heavens. He yelled these things and when I asked him to stop yelling, he said, no, I'm mad. When I asked if he could stop insulting, he said, no, maybe we don't need to talk. I said, you're right, we don't if we can't respect each other. He said, OP, you

need to respect me. I said, grab control. He said, you grab control. We ended the call with him repeating, leave me alone and crying very hard while yelling. I'm not kidding. Now, let me say this. I've never raised my voice, insulted or over-talked anyone because I've seen this with my other sister-in-law married into the family like me. It's easy to feel provoked and get into a screaming match. But when you're cool as a cucumber, emotionally, that sends them over the edge. And that's what happened. And fortunately, I documented the conversation for proof.

Oh, wow. There is a lot more. A lot of it is just explanation to other things. If you want to read it, it will be linked in the description. But we are gonna get into the last update we have, because there's another one after this. This last update is coming almost a month after the original post. New update. Yikes. I know. Well, I'm sort of in a pickle about this one because my husband and I have been wrestling with this issue for a little over a month now. After debates regarding everything that happened with his dad in our home, he spoke with his folks. He said he cleared up

what happened. Not really, but he talked to them and expressed that they can't joke around everyone, especially if you don't know a person's history or if they'll see it as a joke. Fair. After the insults, yelling, alienation, and gossiping, he talked to them and things settled on their end. Supposedly. But no one followed up with me. No apologies, no remorse, no take backs, nothing. Just in, I've talked with them. They're old and set in their ways. This issue is over. Here's where the problem lies. This issue has truly impacted my marriage. I've been so angry with my husband for not having my back, for not standing up for me,

for letting them talk to me however they did. I've questioned his ability to speak up in the face of wrong. I've called him a coward. I've questioned whether being married into this family is even worth it. But what cooked the goose was me saying his dad had predatory behaviors. I gave him examples like when he sees young college-aged girls on TVs and calls them his girlfriend, or openly, in front of his wife, daughters, daughter-in-law, adult children, comments on other women on TV, or when he makes sexual jokes, gestures, etc. How his circles include men who have been exposed for sexual crimes.

Oh. Oh, God. You should have started there. Why didn't you just literally start there? I have noticed the dad has a soft spot for men with these kinds of crimes under their belt and I don't know. An alarm just goes off for me. Maybe I've been enraged and spoken anger. Maybe I spoke what I've been thinking for years. Nonetheless, my husband is beyond hurt. Silent treatment, avoiding me, only will argue, snappy, mad. So was I the asshole or am I missing something? Not the asshole, not missing anything, divorce. This is not worth being married into.

You have a child now that you need to oh god I forgot look out for and maybe there is some shit that went down. Maybe there is some shit that This goes real real deep Yeah, I thought like added context. It's like why like girl that like added context. It's like, why like girl, I would have in the original. No, I know. I wish she would have started with that

because like that we wouldn't have even questioned the worm. Exactly. That's you can only go with what you got. Yeah. Think this is divorce worthy at this point. This is just not worth it. No update about just saying, okay. No update about the update.

What was the last update? Comments were locked on that update. We don't really have any comments after that from OP. Nothing on the account. But again, there were a lot of comments on the other ones and a lot of clarifying questions and just a lot to go through. I mean, you could scroll for at least 73 seconds for how many comments there are. It's just going.

Go on. Where'd you come up with that number? I don't know. It seemed appropriate. 73 seconds. Yeah, that's a doozy though. That is a doozy. Give him the D. Give him the D, divorce.

But that's all I got for this theme. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't know how I feel. What's wrong? I don't know how I feel. Oh! What's wrong?

I don't know. It was just like, that was such a crazy way to end it. I don't like it. Well, I think it's cause usually when we end, we kind of are like, okay, we gotta wrap it up. We keep talking. But this one was kind of like, the last update kind of silenced us a little bit.

We were just like, oh shit. You know, should we get into that short one you sent me? Which one? Cancer one. Oh yeah, yeah. Okay, let's end it on that. Okay. It just doesn't feel right otherwise.

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One night, 17 kids woke up, got out of bed, walked into the dark, and they never came back. I'm the director of Barbarian. A lot of people died in a lot of weird ways. You're not gonna find it in the news because the police covered everything well up. On August 8th. This is where the story really starts. Weapons. Okay, Lauren, you found it. You can read it.

It's really short. This one is coming from A-I-T-A-H and it is nine hours old. You found a fresh one. Yeah. Am I the asshole for hating the other woman my husband fell in love with while she had cancer? My husband, 35 male, soon to be ex-husband, is a doctor.

I, 32 female, married him six years ago. There is a woman, 41 female, who was a patient at a hospital he used to work. What? No. Uh-uh. No. She wasn't a patient while he worked there, and he was never her doctor. When he met her, she was suffering from cancer. She's in remission now. They fell in love while she was sick, and he's leaving me for her. I feel like I'm not allowed to hate her.

Most of my own family isn't pissed at him. My sister, 28 female, is the worst as she talks about the situation like such a romantic event. I'm happy this woman is healthy now. I want her to live a long, happy life. I don't wish ill will on her, but I hate her. understandable. She stole your husband. I partially love and partially hate my husband. I feel guilty for hating her.

Am I the asshole? Okay. Are you like need the context though of how they did meet? So I skimmed this and I, when I saw that he was the doctor, I just immediately assumed that she was his patient. That's what I assumed. First line. But also like, how did you meet then? Yeah.

Weren't her doctor, but like met when she was sick. So how did you meet? Yeah. What? Do you have any comments from OP? Well, I'm almost wondering, I'm like, is she covering for him because how illegal it is to date your own patients and she still partially loves him, as she said. I wonder if she's covering.

Because how else did they meet with her being sick? Right. It's just a confusing way to... I know, it feels fishy. Because I was... It's feeling fishy. Like specifically when the sister says it's like such a romantic event. Why is it romantic?

Right. How did they meet? Was he the doctor and she was sick? Thought she was gonna die. He was got really close with her, got to know her, and then they fell in love? I'm so perplexed. Okay. Top comment and then like, are there any comments from OP?

Is there any clarifying info on here? Because I'm sure everyone is in the same boat as us, just like confused and like, hey, we need a little bit more info. Yeah. And the top comment is just curious if she was not a patient when he worked there, then how did they even meet? Not the asshole though. And then someone responded, they definitely met at the hospital.

You can't trust the words of a cheater. He would say anything to save his job and prove what he did was ethical. Exactly. Like he's a doctor. He's not going to throw away, oh, I don't know, eight, 12 years of school to be honest. To be honest. Like, of course you're gonna lie. Like we didn't meet, I wasn't working there yet. Like how else did you meet?

Yeah, and somebody goes first thought he's totally her doctor and trying to protect his career. Someone goes cancer patients are often going through their treatment in a shared room with multiple people that have different doctors. While you might be right, it's very easy to meet another doctor in those rooms during her chemotherapy.

My grandmother made two friends that weren't her doctors, but doctors of other people in the room that stopped for a chat after setting up their patient. Yeah. Someone else goes, same thing with my mother. Which makes sense, but it still feels a little, well, it's definitely slimy because he had a wife and he cheated, but it still feels kind of like a weird like professional thing where it's like, that's still a patient at your hospital.

And then he tried to lie and he was like, I wasn't working there yet. I wasn't working at that hospital yet. But it's like, then how did you meet her? Are you going to cancer support groups, volunteering your time? How did you meet? Oh no, 100%. It's people. Some of the comments, I didn't even know that they could.

There's like a lot of comments. This is actually even more of a top comment. I don't know why it's farther down. Has even more upvotes. Reddit's, I feel like the way comments are organized has like changed lately. But yeah. I know you can change how you organize your comments, but it just, something's up. But yeah, someone goes, fuck that bitch.

You are entitled to have feelings and tell your sister to shut the fuck up. That has 5.2 thousand up votes. Yes! And that's how I feel. Like it's crazy that the family is not supporting you when you at the end of the day were wronged, you were cheated on, you had your husband lose the sanctity of your marriage and go against the vows that he made to you. And I don't know how cheating, like meeting someone because you cheated, could be romantic. Like, I know she went through something really difficult and

beating cancer is amazing. Like, that is such a terrible thing to go through. But at the end of the day, like, it's amazing on her end for surviving. But like, that's not necessarily romantic because he still cheated. Yeah, what I'm thinking probably the romanticized version that the sisters may be referring to is that the woman who had cancer probably was like, I know what it's like to be close to death. And I've never felt this way. And I don't want to waste one more second living my life for anyone else and holding back from like my true feelings and what you know, it was probably something like that

if I had to guess. There's that empathy and pragmatic devil's advocate you know. But I don't know if OP responds to anything and this was also only nine hours ago. It's fresh. Do you want to take a look and see if you see anything? Yeah let me see if I see anything on the account has been suspended. No! So take that as you will. I'm not seeing any comments. Quick scroll here. Comments really are popping off. Oh yeah, they're pissed. They go crazy. Yeah. Fuck that bitch. I know, I thought that they weren't allowed to say that on Reddit because anytime, I feel like the comments are always so respectful and well thought out. This post is not. There's a lot of very angry, yeah.

And I do agree, like I don't think you need to feel bad for hating her. Like at the end of the day, she kind of like it obviously falls on the husband too, but they both together shit in your Cheerios. Yeah. No, I think you don't have to like give her more respect than you would someone who's not going through cancer. Yeah. I mean, a person uprooted your whole life and your future plans, you have every right to have your feelings about that. For sure.

And not feel guilty about it. No. Well, that's all I got unless you want to get into that vagina cheese story, Lauren. No, no. You can save that for someone else. Who should I give it to? Michaela probably would have a good response. I don't know if she'd be able to be in that either.

She talked about putting a fish. Oh, that's true. She did talk about a fish vagina spell. She might be able to handle it then. Okay. Okay. I got to find a theme for it. Thank you guys so much for being here. Another episode, another month, another year. We're like almost done with 2025, it feels. It's crazy how fast this year's going. Calm down. We're halfway there. I'm like 74 days away from my wedding. Yeah. That's crazy.

That will make time fly for sure. By the time this episode comes out, I'll be even like way closer because this is like a couple of weeks out now. I'm just like, oh my God. It's going to be here before I know it. But my tent is on the boat. I can track the boat from China.

I just like refresh the boat. I just track the boat from China. I just like refresh the boat. I just track it to make sure my tent's coming. I didn't know that you were still going through with that. How'd you find out, how'd you make that happen? Went on alibaba.com, found my guy George in China, ordered the tent. It's been very... Was it as expensive as it? No.

No. I like got a steal compared to the rental prices. Tent rental? I think I'm going to open a tent rental business now. I'm not kidding. Like I got the tent now I'm excited to see it. I think it's gonna be good Wow, and I have my little mini mule in my backyard now that I'm maybe training to be my beer donkey Wait, do you still want to have you said before that you wanted to have like a camel? No single like bachelor Yes guys there. Yes, we are getting to the wire. If we have hot single guys in Minnesota, please submit your application to Lauren.

That is Lauren Rolfe. She's made of honor. We'll set up a Google form and she can go through it. Perfect. Absolutely. I want the experience for the guests. I think Salt Hank was serious about wanting to come. Oh, was that why he wanted to come?

Yeah. Oh, he can come. That's why I was like, I actually would. He's invited. Perfect. He had just told me that he's... How do you know? Do you tell him? He doesn't listen to the pod.

He was asking for updates on everyone. I love that. He can come. I like that. Yeah. I want... We have so many amazing, beautiful, smart, just insane women in attendance and not as many single, nice, smart guys.

And so I need to level it out. I was in Duluth a couple of weekends ago for the holidays and just recovering from surgery. And I literally ran into people from high school and I was like, are you going to be in town September 27th? Do you want to come to the after party? I have so many hot girls coming. I'm recruiting everyone. I told like all the, all the guys that like I invited, but I gave them a plus one. I'm like, did you want to bring a plus one? Don't bring a plus one.

There's so many girls. I'm like, I'm just want it to be so fun for everyone. And like, who knows if you met and you fell in love at my wedding, that'd be so cool. That would be cool. And I, I'm very excited. I think it's going to be really fun. It's going to be really cool. Really cool. I've just had so much fun planning. I've had like small pockets, like maybe 30 minutes of stress here and there, but like otherwise it has truly been such a fun experience. Maybe you should be a wedding planner.

I literally want to. Like when I told you like I would put the podcast on hold to plan your wedding, I wouldn't even need to put it on hold. Like I'm just, I can do it all. I would love to plan a friend's wedding. If you don't let me be your wedding planner, I'm actually going to be pissed. Well, the thing is, is that like I likely will do a really like low key beach resort, all inclusive wedding. I love this. No, like that like I likely will do a really like low key beach resort, all inclusive

wedding. I love this. No, like that's what you said. Yeah. But not like all inclusive beach resort. Like I'm thinking like honestly, something really small and like really affordable. Yeah, we can find a villa, have the whole house like have the wedding party. 5k total.

You know, we, we can see what we can do. We could probably swing something cool. You just won't have a lot of flowers because those are costly or we'll go to the local garden greenery place there and find some plants. Plants are more affordable if you want something that you can then actually have after the wedding too. I'm doing a lot of plants. We'll see.

I just, I just, yeah, I guess I just have a hard time with the idea of like spending a ton of money on like a temporary. Oh yeah. You know, so it's like that. It's a commitment. Yeah. It's a choice. Yeah.

It's definitely a choice. But we'll see. You never know how I'll feel whenever the time comes. So. But I was learning you could win the lottery and be like, I won 150 million in the California State Lottery. What's 1 million on a wedding? No, that would raise my price to 10K on the wedding.

A modest humble girl. Thank you guys so much for being here. We've got Lauren on two Patreon episodes this month. So head on over if you want more Loin. We also did a trio episode, me, Lauren and Michaela. That was really fun. It was super good. Yeah. We also did a trio episode, me, Lauren, and Makayla. That was really fun. It was super good, yeah. Makayla talked about it today and she was like, it was super like, girl slumber party sleepover vibes and we had some crazy stories for it.

Yeah, I loved that. It was a good time. So head on over. But okay, that's all I got. Until next time. Until next time. Bye guys. Bye. Bye guys! Bye!