Two Hot Takes - 250: Some Serious Characters.. Ft. Trevor Wallace

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Trevor Wallace! Back this week with an episode that has a chaotic assorment of wild people. From a guy who deleted his girlfriend's Sims to a nan...ny that confronted her employers about their lunchtime activities we were in a tailspin. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on these ones. Trevors Content!: https://www.instagram.com/trevorwallace/?hl=en https://trevorwallace.com https://www.youtube.com/c/TrevorWallace Partners: Credit Karma: https://www.creditkarma.com/ Skims: Skims.com/tht NEW MERCH: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.twohottakes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Bonus Content on Patreon including FREE stories: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ MERCH HERE ! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.twohottakes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send us a letter? Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 WRITE IN TO US!!! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Index: 00:00 -- Start Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Please play responsibly. I feel like my sweater fits the vibe of the background and everything. Your sweater is a horse sweater. So I was a big horse girl. I love it. Boom. I love it. Not your first rodeo.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Not my first rodeo. Literally, we've done this three years ago. Mm-hmm. Three and a half? Three and a half. And your show is so much bigger and there's less people now. When I was there, there was like five people today, no one. Just you.
Starting point is 00:01:54 You cut everyone out. I had more people? Yeah. Who the hell did I have there? My dad, probably. He might have been there. It was there. I think there was two or three other girls.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And who shot on an iPhone. But now we are great. It was shot on an iPhone. Yep. Look at how far we've come. Look at this. Congratulations. Thanks for having me back.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I love the show. Thank you. Congratulations on all your success. And what a beautiful set. And if you're listening on an audio, picture the warmest environment for the holidays. That's what it is. God, Trevor Wallace, just like my little hype man today. Of course.
Starting point is 00:02:26 You deserve it. Thank you. Now, what have you been up to? over the past couple years. I mean, big things, your, I don't know, agent, manager person sent me a list. I was like, holy smokes. He has been busy. I have been busy. I saw like MTV. I saw so much shit in your list. I was like, wow. You know, but at the core, it's just I'm touring a bunch with stand-up and then just maintaining YouTube sketches and the stuff that I really love. But done a few other cameos, some cool stuff, some TV, some film stuff. But at the end of the day, it's,
Starting point is 00:02:56 you know, my favorite stuff is just doing stuff for you. YouTube and, you know, stand up and podcasting is like, the bread and the butter. That's what the most fun, the most liberty, the most freedom. It's so fun. Yeah, I love it. I need to go to one of your stand-up shows. Please do. I really want to start taking, like, improv classes. Improv class are great. I feel like your brain works so fast. Like, I say something and you're just so quick with it. And it's got to be that, like, stand-up, like, smart comedy, improv brain. We'll see how smart my comedy is. But, yeah, I like improv classes because it lets you just trust whatever your body's about to say and just know that, like, it might not be funny, but it might
Starting point is 00:03:28 be funny, but just like whatever your gut says, just like say it. Trust what your body's about to say. So you like, do you even think about it or does it just come out? It comes out. And then I edit mentally after. That's so dangerous. I'll say something. And then the crowd either laughs so they don't.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And then I go, okay, it's time to rework it. But it is fun. It's just, it's like, I remember, like, growing up in high school, we'd all go to this rock jump. And it was like this like 15 foot like rock jump into a lake. And the longer I'd sit there and think about the scarier God. Yeah. So I kind of equate that to like improv. It's like, if you're up there and you just jump, you don't have.
Starting point is 00:03:58 time to overthink it. So the long you sit on, I'm like, what do I say? What do I say? The more you're going to put weight on it. But if you just like do it. No, that makes, that makes a lot of sense. Wow. So if you're on a rock right now listening. I used to do that too. But be safe. Yeah. Yeah. It's like 15 feet and under. Okay. Body of water. It was probably six feet. If we're being honest. Don't take our advice. Please don't. No, no, no. Not mine, especially. Do you remember any stories that like stuck out to you from your last experience on two hot days? I just remember the elevator straight to the room, which was like, I've heard about this in like Home Alone movies. I'm like, this is a new level of luxury.
Starting point is 00:04:38 My dad's condo, you guys. It's an interesting building. Yeah, you get in the elevator and it just opens right up into the house. And I used to live like two blocks from there. So that was the best, I think, appearance, like the most convenient appearance. And like one of my favorites because I was like, I put it in my phone and it was like, do you want to walk or drive? I'm like, What a blessing. Do you remember the Grinch story? It was a woman that... Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:05:01 She had like a Grinch fetish. Yeah. Is she still with us? I would assume. We never got an update. Dang it. I really... But I tried to like go into this episode with like such...
Starting point is 00:05:12 I like, the bar was set so high. Yeah. Like how do you beat a lady that wants to get by the Grinch? So I've got some crazy stories. Good, good, good. The Grinch one. No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:05:26 No. This is like one of the first episodes of 2026. Okay. Hope you guys New Year's is going well and you guys had a great resolution. Exactly. So I don't know, just a random assortment of chaos. But that one, yeah. That one just like really, I still think about it. I'm like, God, you guys, you and Michael just lost your minds. It was, uh, I remember reading the comments and they were like, they were fun guests, a little too broies. But Michael and I together, it's a lot. Just myself. It's a little. more reserved. Let yourself shine. Like, don't worry about the comments. Yeah, let's pull the Grinch stuff again. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I have one. I haven't fully read it. It's really, I don't know, just based on the title, we'll see if I do it.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Oh, Lord. Yeah, it's... What's the title first? We can work backwards. Oh, it's that bad? I caught my boyfriend's stepmom breastfeeding her eight-year-old. I think I've seen this video before. I'm not sure if we're going to do that one.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah. But a little teaser before, you know. Yeah, that'll be at the end of the episode. So keep listening for that story. That's how you hook him right there. Oh, it's honestly, I genuinely, it's. There was a lot of layers to that. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:37 That's like an SAT question. It's like, call my exes, mom, stepmom, breastfeeding, eight years. I know. That's a lot of characters. All of these today. A lot of characters. I love it. I absolutely love it.
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Starting point is 00:08:03 Coming from our very own two-out-takes subreddit, seven hours old, titled, My Boyfriend Turns My Private Life into Content, and then calls me sensitive. Okay, maybe I wrote this. Maybe this was me, because anything that happens with anybody have ever dated, there can be no bad in the relationship
Starting point is 00:08:23 because I'm like, this is content. Is your girlfriend 28? 27. I, 28 female, and my boyfriend, 30 male, we've been together for a little over three years and live in a mid-sized city. He is the social one with a big friend group, group chats, fantasy league, all of that. I am more private. When we started dating, he would tell funny stories about work or his family and everyone loved it.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Lately, I realized more and more of those funny stories are actually. about me. It started small, like him telling his friends, I cry at animal shelter commercials, which I could laugh off. But then he told his group chat about a panic attack I had when my card declined at the grocery store last year and how he had to rescue me. He copied a part of my text about feeling like a failure and sent it in that chat as a joke. Last weekend, his best friend got a new girlfriend, and we all went out for dinner. I met her for the first time, and she said, quote, oh, you are the one who hates phone calls and freaks out when unknown numbers call. Nice to finally meet you. That is something I told my boyfriend once in a pretty vulnerable
Starting point is 00:09:39 conversation about anxiety. I confronted him in the car, and he said I was overreacting, that he is just sharing real life, and that everyone shares about their partners. He said, if I don't want to be in his stories, I should work on myself, so there is nothing embarrassing to talk about. I feel so exposed and honestly kind of betrayed, but he acts like this is normal, and I'm trying to control him. Is this a weird boundaries issue that I need to work through or a deal breaker level disrespect? My first thought is it was okay up until he said this is something you need to work on and you to better yourself.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. Better yourself. So there's nothing embarrassing to talk about. He's pretty much saying, like, well, don't be such an embarrassing or clutzful person, so you're not giving me material. Instead of, and let's be honest, he's 30. He's pushing 40. He's close to probably dying at this age. So I think that the responsible loving boyfriend would say something like, I'm so sorry, I didn't realize that this was hurting you. I guess I was doing it for a joke. But I see. how it's not perceived as that way. But instead, he's like, whoa, maybe don't be such an idiot.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Samantha, maybe if you were such a, whoa. Oh, my God, this is incredible. Thank you so much. Are you an East Coast person? No. Really? Where are you from? You're from out here, right?
Starting point is 00:11:04 Minnesota. Oh. Is Minnesota not East, Midwest? Minnesota Midwest? Yeah. East Coast, no. Is Big in Minnesota? No, but it was the fastest on.
Starting point is 00:11:19 That was incredibly fast. Not sponsored. You can, though. It could be. It could be. Hopefully he drinks some and wakes up and realizes he's being not a good boyfriend. Okay. Somebody tagged him in the comments.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Okay, free promo. No, I completely agree. I mean, it's, you said something. He's like 30 pushing 40. Might as well be dead. He should be dead to you. Yeah. Like.
Starting point is 00:11:43 That's a very childish response. If you were like 22, not saying it's okay, but that would feel more the norm. to be like, well, maybe stop being such an idiot. But at 30, you should have enough comprehension to be like, oh, I didn't realize this was hurting you in this regard. Everyone slips up. Everyone overshares. Everyone vents about their partner to their friends.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But when it's constantly sharing vulnerable information, like, uh, and then you found out, you're upset. You told him you're upset. And instead, he's flipping it around on you and kind of gaslighting you. This is a you problem. This is not me. Also true. I just feel like this sets it up for almost like some animosity and like a rivalry almost where it's like he wants her or he's setting it up to be like well you know I do dumb stuff you can talk about that like it's not they're not solving the issue he's only saying like well why don't you do that it feels like I know I think we've all been around this type of couple though and a certain level of it is funny but then it just gets like are we in couples therapy right now oh my god and then you're like can these
Starting point is 00:12:49 Appetizers come any quicker. This is awkward. It's like you just sit there and your whole time, you're like, how are they still together? Please break up. Yes. And some of them are lightly, like, the lighter stuff is funny. But there is moments where you're just like, they almost get into an argument in front of you because she's like, no, that's not how it started. Well, no, that's how it ended.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And then you're just sitting there. You're like, happy holiday. Yeah, like, I want to leave now. Yeah. So. Oh. What's your overall opinion on it? I think break up.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah? Break up. How long have they been together, do they say? A little over three years. That's interesting. Because three years feels like this is your person. It feels that you can't leave. You can.
Starting point is 00:13:35 You can be in there for 20 years and leave. You can hit the U-turn quick. Yeah, true. Honestly, might be a little more fun. I had, now I'm doing exactly what this guy's talking about. I had not so much, but I had a family friend, like one of my best friends growing up, his parents got a divorce
Starting point is 00:13:50 after like 45 years together. Ooh. And honestly, good for them. Yeah, live those last years of your life. Like, they're both like 65-ish, like 70s. Like, yeah, why not? You know?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Go to sandals. Yeah. Go to a naked resort. Go to live. Go to the villages in Florida and figure it out. Yeah. But I just was like, yeah, at any point, you can be like, you feel like it's your forever.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It doesn't have to be. No, and like, it's really interesting because I always have. ask people that have been married a really long time, I always ask them, like, what's the secret? And the response I get is really telling. Like, I've gotten a really cute one where it was, like, selective hearing, where it's like, you know, when they're being a little cranky, you're just kind of tune it out and, like, selective hearing. I've gotten one that was selective vision. Oh. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Because I had to share the example.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Sink. Oh, I don't even know. But some of them are like, Ooh. I don't know if you really even like your partner. It's like at that point, just break up. Like this guy? I don't even think he likes her. He's using her as like the butt of the joke. That's not fun. I would like to know where they're from. Because this like... Mid-sized city. It's giving Chicago. Okay. Chicago's a good one for that. Yeah, it's not New York or L.A. I don't know. It's not great. It's also not great that none of the friends are telling us.
Starting point is 00:15:17 him like, hey, this is funny, but I don't know if you need to be sharing all this, especially the hates, he's almost talking to them like he's on a date with, like, he's using like date conversations, like, oh yeah, my ex used to hate phone calls. She, she only likes FaceTime or something like that. Yeah. Like, you wouldn't just bring it up to a friend group. That's what I'm saying. It's like you're just constantly.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And that's not like, I think if there's like a funny, right, that's, that's too nitpicky for me. Yeah. If there's like a funny thing where I was out in Miami recently, I got shit on by a bird. everybody's talking about it later it's funny and that's just like that's just like a that's life
Starting point is 00:15:54 but somebody's like hey you're on the phone that's no fault of your own like the bird you can't control the bird shit's on you they can limit the bread in the Miami area I guess but but to that point it's like that's a funny experience that we like both went through yeah and it's not like
Starting point is 00:16:10 it's a funny story it's not your card declined at the grocery store when you were trying to buy food Yeah, that seems more like he needs a therapist or he's just venting to someone who will listen. I don't. He's, I don't like him. Topcom. I can picture this guy.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Doesn't like him either. Good. They quote, need to work on yourself so there is nothing embarrassing to talk about. Wow. You can do all the work on yourself you want, but that still won't keep embarrassing moments from happening to you. This is a serious boundaries issue. And if he's not going to take you seriously when you ask him not to discuss them, that's an even bigger issue.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Just because you to our partners does not mean he has automatic consent to share personal and vulnerable information about you with whoever he chooses, like his buddy's new girlfriend, who you've never met. Also a brand new girlfriend. She doesn't need to know that.
Starting point is 00:17:01 She doesn't even know his name. Like, let them meet face to face. Her first impression now has already been set. Well, it's also bad first impression on the guy, too. It's like, oh, you trauma-ed up. Not even trauma, but like, oh, you meet people and tell other secrets for no reason. reason. Like, I can't trust this guy with anything.
Starting point is 00:17:17 No. This guy needs to sign multiple NDAs. Yeah. This person goes on to say he needs to get a hobby that he can discuss because blasting your partner's embarrassing business is not a hobby and it's not what partners do. Correct. Yeah, he must not have enough personality on his own to talk about anything else that he's, there's probably some good saying about this somewhere on Etsy or something, but it's like those who talk behind your, they only talk behind your back because they have nothing else better to talk about. I think I've heard that somewhere. Yeah. Maybe it was on a Bucky's t-shirt or something. Oh, it probably was Buckees. I love Bucky. Bucky is funny, but Buckees also does
Starting point is 00:17:49 fuel, like, so much misogyny. Like, their shirts or, like, they sell these, like, wood. Have you seen, like, the art of Buckees? I used have a joke about it, but it's like, Buckees is almost wholesome, like the art decor. Sometimes it is. Yeah. Well, the women's bathroom art might be different. Beautiful. Yeah, it's really majestic in there. Which also, like, how disrespectful if you're a painter. You're like, agents, like, I got you good placement. Where? Like, on the way to the shitter. But the Bucky's bathroom. Yeah, the Bucky's bathroom is iconic and so clean.
Starting point is 00:18:16 But you know, they have like, next to the candles, they'll have like a wooden plaque or something. It's like a little fun saying. Like, they're almost cute. And then it just gets real like Southern. It'll be like, I love my wife, dot, dot, dot, when she shuts the fuck up at night. And it's in like a cursive font. And you're like, who's buying this?
Starting point is 00:18:34 And there's a trucker with a slim gym behind his ear. Like, that's good. That's good. Oh, man. You're so right. You know a video broke my heart recently? What's that? This creator went to Costco and he like stopped guys.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I don't know. Five big booms? No, I don't think so. Okay. And he was like stopping people that were shopping with their wives. And the wife would like go and grab something off the shelf and he would like sneak in and ask the guy, how much fun are you having at Costco with your wife? And all the guys were like, zero, negative 10.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Let's get a sample. Negative five. I hate Costco. I hate my wife. I'm like, I love going to Costco with my partner. Yeah. Like what's wrong with you? Costco, I mean, yeah, like literally get a sample and sit in a recliner. They have massage shards in the middle of the store and you choose to be miserable. I will say if you go on a Saturday morning, that parking lot does stress people out a little bit. What one are you going to?
Starting point is 00:19:31 I usually go to the one in Woodland Hills. But that one, I need to go to a new one because that one's parking lot is shared. with like a home depot and like a plant like a planet fitness it's there's a conglomerate of yeah it needs its own space yeah i go to the burbank one oh good bed real good if you go to the ikea in burbank love it that is one of the best ikea's in north america it's you can get your steps into there oh it's good i don't even work out anymore i just hit my apple watch on zero and just go find the meatballs literally have you tried the plant balls yeah and that one's great you just go up the escalator you're right there and the food you don't even have to go through the store you just
Starting point is 00:20:06 right up in the cafeteria. And they got deals every day of the week. It's always Black Friday at IKEA. Literally. Like meatballs are half off basically three days out of the week. Really? Yeah, and the plant balls. So what is the plant balls?
Starting point is 00:20:16 It's just tofu cylinder? No, I think it's like lentils and stuff. I don't even know. They say the ingredients, but it's, they taste better than the meat. Really? So good. You can't even tell. It looks like meat.
Starting point is 00:20:27 It tastes like meat. Better than the meat. Somebody ride in and say if they've ever gone on a date to IKEA for the meatballs. Yeah. A date? Yeah. like early stages of a relationship or like all right let's let's go maybe a year in okay okay year in's good you trust you know yeah i'm saying like first date you meet on hinge like hey yeah let's
Starting point is 00:20:49 go out saturday at eight and he's like oh it'll pick you up honestly would be a good test it would be a good test it's funny because there's a lot of things to talk about it's a lot of riff a lot of banter and you can kind of see like where uh someone's like design kind of mind goes to yeah it is a fun place to go. Honestly, I think that should be a bigger first date strategy. You meet there. They don't know where you live. If you want, you could buy something built it together. See how you communicate. You can see how he does in high pressure stress. Yeah. See parking. Yep. This might be a good idea. I kind of like this. I'm behind this. I like in a date with activities. I like the casual dinner as well. But I also like just like something that gives room to
Starting point is 00:21:27 riff. And I think just seeing where people's mind goes, if there's 12 lamps in front of you, what do you like? What do you like? I like this one because this one is more of like an amber a warm tone. I just feel like there's a lot to go based on that. I'm with you. Anyone with cool, white in their homes? Jail. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you working? Corporate at home? I would be set off constantly. Yeah. I literally, November 1st, I have a tree up in my house. That's only light on now. Really? It's just a nice soft glow, happy, zen. You know, it's not zen, though? This next one. Good, good, good. This is coming from. from True Off My Chest, titled, My Girlfriend Found Out That I Lied about me and my friends
Starting point is 00:22:10 playing fantasy football, and I know I screwed up big time. I know it was wrong to lie to my girlfriend, and I probably should have just told her the truth. I lied because I didn't want to hurt her or upset her, but I realized it was still a lie. I've been playing fantasy football with some friends for years. We're all big sports fans, but football is the biggest. Last season, one of the guys dropped out of our fantasy league because he said it was taking up too much time and he was afraid it was pushing him into a gambling problem.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Very responsible guy. Self-aware. Yeah, geez. We needed another player and my girlfriend watches football, so we asked her to play. I know I'm going to catch heat for saying this, but it wasn't as fun playing with her as I thought it would be. I don't know if it was beginner's luck or what,
Starting point is 00:23:00 but she pretty much destroyed the rest of her. us all season. It wasn't fun losing to her. So this season, we decided to tell her we weren't playing this year. I didn't want to at first, but the other guys insisted. We invited the new brother-in-law of one of the guys to play instead. I just told her everyone was too busy to play this year, and she didn't question it. On Thursday night, we slipped up, and she found out we are all still plain. She had to go to work, but she was pissed off. She's been frosty since she got home Friday morning. Next weekend, we are supposed to go to an out-of-state wedding. Her family isn't from Chicago, but now she said she wants to go by herself. I tried to explain, but it just made her
Starting point is 00:23:50 mad. It's nothing personal. No one hates her or anything. I know I'm going to catch heat in the comments. Every time I try to explain it, it makes it worse. I screwed up. I And there's no way around it. But she's so upset and I don't know what to do to make it better. I know I fucked up. Yeah, a lot to unpack here. This is like worse than finding out that you're not a part of a group chat. This is like the final level boss of that.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I think once you're in a fantasy league, like that's until death goes part. Like until you pull a plug on yourself or you leave, like you're kind of like grandfathered in. That's what I would think. Like people every year, they're like, are you playing this year? I'm like, I don't know. and then I play. And I do like it. I just don't like losing.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Right. Which is kind of him. Well, my question in this guy is, if he wouldn't have lost to her, would he have still tried to do it without her? Because is he like a sore loser? Yeah. Okay. So he's a sore loser. All of them are.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. I don't like losing to a girl. Oh, beginner's luck. Yeah. And I'm just curious, like, how much did it affect the relationship where he felt like I shouldn't tell her? She's going to know. Do you know how hard it is to I don't even play fantasy
Starting point is 00:25:01 But like all my friends do They're watching a game They're screaming They're like we need Pooka Nakua We need two yards right They're like their stats are so specific That it's like you would know You're literally
Starting point is 00:25:10 I feel like watching games you wouldn't And then sitting on your phone Why are you watching the Browns? Like oh hurts Are you kidding me Like four picks Five picks Like I think he got like negative point four
Starting point is 00:25:23 That's like harder Yeah Like it was really bad last night That's like literally harder to hide that you're in a fantasy league than, like, having an affair. I think so. Like, in a fair, you just change your name to, like, Bob from Costco.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Then, you know, but like the fantasy, there's so many notifications. There's always a group chat about the fantasy, like talking shit on each other. That's, that's, yeah, he slipped up on that. Yeah. What he should have done, which is worse, but not good. Okay. But what this specific guy should have done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Of course, babe, you should play. Let me help you recruit. Let me help you draft. And sabotage? Sabotage, which I, up front of I said, it's worse. It is worse. But if you wanted to not be such a loser, but I also think there is a lot of beginner's luck to fantasy.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Like I, the one time I played, I just was like, yeah, you have a cool name. I like that team, cool colors. And then I think of place like second or third. So like. Look at that. Yeah. I feel like the less you care, the better you do. Correct.
Starting point is 00:26:23 That's weird. It's kind of like that in most things in life, too. I did a lot of talking. I'm sorry. Where do you fall on with this? No, you're here to talk. Right. Don't apologize for talking.
Starting point is 00:26:33 But this is, I don't want to quiet the female voice like this guy did. You're doing great, sweetie. No, I talk too much usually. So this is refreshing. What would you, if this was, if you were in this situation and you're heard and you find out? I don't know if this is breakup worthy. I think it does speak to a larger issue though. Like, you're lying to me.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah. And it's like, yeah, okay, it's fantasy football. But like, overall, it's a big deal. I'm not about fantasy football. It's almost about the line. It is. It's about the line. And you don't respect me because you were willing to lie to me and kick me out.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And it's like, he has this line here where it was like, it was most of the other guys. You still didn't stand up for your girlfriend and include her after she had already been grandfathered in. So it's weird. I had this boyfriend in high school and he like cheated on me. And his excuse, like, I was literally like, why did you do that? He goes, well, my buddies didn't like that I had a girlfriend, and so they made me cheat. And I'm like, you're so fucking dumb. Yeah, they made you put your dick in someone else?
Starting point is 00:27:37 No, no. They put handcuffs on me and gave me a Viagra and threw me in a closet with her. Like, what? No, that was you, because you were insecure or whatever. Well, they can't take the personal blame. I know, and that's kind of him. He's just like, it was my buddies. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I think, like, you really got to make it right. And, like, honestly, I don't know what would make it better. Like, it is painful. But is it breakup worthy? Can you redeem that back? Or is that trust, like, really broken? I think you can redeem it back. It's just not, like, it's just not fun to know that there's people having fun without you when you should have been a part of that.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I literally think it's a whole, like, finding out you're not in a group chat. It's so painful. It's just so painful. And then he's going to try and kind of do like a pity thing. Well, it's like, well, do you want to help me coach? my team or next year we'll name my team after you you can play on it my team it's like that that bridge has been crossed yeah no and it's like would she even want to go back into a league next year and have her own team like she should find a different different league to be in i know and i think that's
Starting point is 00:28:43 like what she should do it's like branch out like if she does like fantasy go play with some other girls or other friends other people but it really sucks when you like try to insert yourself and, like, have fun and, like, find out you're not in a group chat, but you ask to join, or it's like, you find out all of your friends are going to brunch, and you're like, hey, can I come? And they're like, actually, no, the reservation's already been made. Like, that hurts. And the hard part is, it sounds like she wasn't even like, not asked, but like,
Starting point is 00:29:16 they made up the elaborate plan to be like, we'll just say we're not doing it this year. Because now, not only does he have to keep the secret, but everybody else in the fantasy group also has to keep a secret. If they go out to, like, lunch or dinner, he has to text a different group chat and be like, nobody's talking about football. And they're sitting there like, man, weather's crazy. I know. I mean, you could have just said, hey, that guy wanted to come back.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Like, we're still doing it, but that guy wanted his spot back. Yeah. Still lying. But you're not lying as hard. It's a smaller lie. But now it's like, he's literally like creating like a different like life for this lie. Not great. Really tricky situation.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I feel like he did write in in hopes that his girlfriend is also listening. to the show. You think so? He said like multiple times and then he's like, I fucked up. I'm so sorry. I'm fucked up. I know I'm going to catch heat. I fucked up. Baby, I love you. Happy, happy anniversary. We do have some comments from O.P. Oh, please. So someone goes, you definitely messed up. This won't even be about excluding her from something, but how you were okay lying to her. The key to relationship is communication. My only suggestion for your current situation would be to man up, take full responsibility and apologize, then sit down and have an honest conversation with her. about why you did what you did and what you plan to do to make sure communication is honest going
Starting point is 00:30:29 forward. If you're lucky and work for it, you'll be able to build up trust again. Yeah. I feel like that's a very solid answer. Solid. Yeah. OP responds. Yeah, I know you are right. I make no excuses. I realize I screwed up. Every time I try to explain, I make it worse. I did apologize, but she doesn't want to hear it right now. I understand why she's mad, and I don't want to make any excuses for lying or hiding it. I should have stuck to my guns when the other guys insisted yeah i don't think a woman wants to hear a man explaining why she's not a part of it she knows why there's no point in being like because you're pathetic sore losers yeah you don't want a girl doing better than you that for sure i also feel like maybe he couldn't have been maybe because like
Starting point is 00:31:13 i think i'm not in any fantasy groups but from my friends who are in fantasy football groups like the group chat is like 90% of it like how they're texting and just talking shit so he maybe felt some sort of way that like he couldn't talk as like reckless or something like okay okay so maybe he was like getting like side bullied by the other guys i i don't really know i i would have i would need to see some receipts here but regardless he uh didn't do the right thing it i mean just like she's gonna know it's so hard to hide that we do have an update oh a full official update do they break up So the update is coming two months later. Update just came a couple days ago.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Actually, like three days ago. Yeah. So update is coming two months later. So it's over. Oh. I know I screwed up and the writing was on the wall. The worst part is I have no excuses. I know how badly I fucked this up.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I'm not even looking for sympathy here. When my girlfriend got back from the wedding, she asked me why I lied to her. I didn't have an answer for her. All of my explanations just made it worse. and I didn't really explain anything. I tried to apologize, but she didn't want to hear it. It was the worst week of my life.
Starting point is 00:32:27 It was almost like she was freezing me out. At one point, she asked me if we ever talked about her in the group chat for our fantasy league. You were on it! I didn't even have to answer. She just said, it's not nice, right? And I think that was the turning point. I never want to see her cry, and the worst part is knowing I did this because I was stupid and didn't stand up to my friends.
Starting point is 00:32:52 She said she doesn't think we are compatible and shouldn't date anymore. She didn't want to accept my apologies and I understand and I won't bother her now. She went to stay with her family for another week and now I've heard she came back because of her job, pharmacist. Oh, you really blew it. You blew it.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And now she's staying with friends. But I will leave her alone. I'm looking for another place to live because our lease is up at the end of the month. She left two weeks ago and it feels empty and the worst part is I know it's my fault. I barely care about watching football now And normally I would be excited about it
Starting point is 00:33:25 Because my team is in first place Men are so funny He's trying to get sympathy out of this And my team is at first place And I had Aaron Rogers for 47 points Chocolate doesn't even taste good anymore Yeah But that's why I say
Starting point is 00:33:39 I feel like he thinks that His ex, X now I think is a big fan of the show Because he's saying like I can't even watch football anymore Wink wink wink my apartment. I'm leaving it. He's saying so many details.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I know. And this, this last line here, if you take anything away from my post, don't put your friends over the person you love. Learn to stand up to your friends. I learned my lesson after all of this. Like, I hope you see this. And he just keeps, like, going back to his friends. It's like, I should have stood up to my friends.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I shouldn't have let them bully me so hard. And it's like, I get it. just lied. That's kind of the whole peer pressure is tough. But then you still were talking to shit in the group chat. Right. Like, so you lied. And then you were talking about her in the group chat. What were you saying? Pull it up. What were you saying in that group chat? The receipts. Yeah. I think, I think, yeah, first thing, she's available now for the draft. Fellas, find her. And keep her in your team. Okay. Yeah, I think it's just about the lying. And I think it's like, it's not even about the fantasy football at that point.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It's just like what type of guy, what I want to date, who is a sore loser, one, and two, would rather go with his friends than kind of, like, keep his partner happy. Yeah, you know, I don't really feel bad for this guy. No. It's just funny. I was like, I can't even watch football anymore. Oh, my God. Grow up. Grow up.
Starting point is 00:35:09 But, like, imagine him, like, going back to watching football with his friends. And, like, somebody on his fantasy team is playing. You're, like, turn it off. This is too much for me to want. The PTSD. Literally. Oh, my gosh. I'm kind of happy.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Like, it seems like football might be forever, a little tainted for him. Which she probably loves. Good. Every time you watch the Vikings, I want you to think of me. That's my team. Minnesota. Two plus two, yeah. Two plus two equals seven.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I'm a Rams guy, so I would love to know what his roster was, too. I would love to know, like, I want to see his fantasy football-like team just so I can judge him as a person. I mean, he's number one. in his league. That was also really funny. He's like, I can't even enjoy it. I'm number one right now.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Okay, so like if you were in last place, you would be enjoying it? I think it's just like... That's why guys are so funny. You are a weird breed. Very weird breed. He's like trying to be sympathetic,
Starting point is 00:35:59 but he's also like, I'm also number one. And number one gets like $5,000 and I'm gonna go to Cancun with it. But I'm like, I can't think about it. It is so goofy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Would have loved to be a fly in the wall when he was trying to explain why she wasn't in it. Yeah. Babe, come on. You know, like, you have your nails always done and like trying to trade and draft on your phone
Starting point is 00:36:17 it's just stressful I don't want to put that pressure and you have new gels right is that what they're called also it's so funny where he's like I couldn't come up with a good reason your reason was you guys are all insecure and don't like losing to a woman like that's that's all it is like you could have just said that like my buddies are threatened by you babe
Starting point is 00:36:35 like you were too good last year yeah I mean that's that's the honest truth so why couldn't you just come up with that yeah he's just an idiot So is this next one though Real quick on the last story I hope the ex I hope she becomes like an NFL like analyst
Starting point is 00:36:49 And is like commentating every game So every time he watches Like she's up there with like Tom Brady And he's like I could have had you Also can we talk about how much Tom Brady has come into his own As an announcer?
Starting point is 00:37:01 Yeah Like a lot of people are criticizing him year one Tom's not that good He's got to figure it out Listening to him this year Love him He's great I'm now a Tom Brady super fan
Starting point is 00:37:11 Oh he's awesome It's also so funny like underneath his name. It's like, I forget who is Kirk, something I think he was commenting about the other day. And then under Tom Brady's like seven time Super Bowl champ. You're like, what a casual flex. Hey, Tom Brady's seven time Super Bowl champ, by the way. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Let's go ahead and comment on today's game. Seven time champ? Seven? Shouldn't you like buy like a state and then like just live there? I think he like has a stake in the Raiders. Really? Yeah. He did get in trouble with some crypto stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Tom Brady? That wasn't good, Tom. Yeah. Doesn't have enough money? But they like had to ban. him from like the broadcaster meetings because he would go to the raiders and he's like a very active involved owner kind of like some insider trading fears so they say allegedly allegedly interesting but great announcer really explains it love him great announcer great great time this next
Starting point is 00:38:00 one this next one let's lock in this episode is brought to you by skims i feel like finding good undergarments is always a struggle painful underwire doesn't cover anything and doesn't stretch to allow your parts to fit in it. That is not the case with skims. Skims is different. A lot of skim's fabric is life-changing. Like the cotton jersey full brief, never loses its shape. I also love how breathable they are. I feel like I can go a whole day and not feel stinky or swampy or gross. I'm in my ludial phase right now and I wore a skim's body suit today and it is probably the only reason I left the house. It held everything in, gave me some nice compression in areas I wanted it. And it gave me the confidence to go out, go about my day, and go to a work event, and not feel
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Starting point is 00:39:37 later when we were alone, and so I probed until my boyfriend came clean. Apparently, he wanted to break up with me one year into the relationship, so he started telling people that I was a crazy nut job. He told him that he was too scared to break up with me because I might slit his car tires or poison his dog to get back at him. He says he wanted to break up before, but that he got over it, and now he loves me. Why did he tell people that? Well, I had an elective surgery, breast reduction that he was against. I think most men are against breast reductions. Like, if you ain't adding, then I'm subtracted.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I'm getting out of here. Some people are butkeyes. Buckyes? Buckyes. Ohio State? No, but, but guys. But guys. Buckeyes.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I thought you're saying buck eyes. I have an accent. I could have swore I heard buck eyes. I was like, is that a term that I'm not missing? Buttocks. I don't discriminate. I'm for either. He thought it was crazy for me to consider.
Starting point is 00:40:37 such a surgery when everyone he knew was getting them larger. Obviously, no one ever talks about the pain and complications, big chest bringing on. So he was oblivious to it. He realized when I was in the hospital, though, that he loved me regardless of how small my boobs would end up being. Which is something you probably said. Oh, 100%. And he got really worried for my health when I didn't call him at the designated post-op time. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. And I don't know if I can trust him or be with someone who was considering ending it with me over surgery. I don't know if I'm overreacting or not. Please help. I think, uh, no guy will ever be in support of a breast reduction, which is a sad truth. My husband is so for it. He's,
Starting point is 00:41:25 he's sad. He says, I, I, you know, I'm sad. Yeah. But he's like, you know, yeah, I mean, like, I'm going to strap some cantaloupes on your, on you. Puss and what? I'm just, yeah, you're generic male is not going to be like, hell yeah. They're going to be like, are you sure about that? How bad is the back pain? You just want to get some icy hot instead? I think, like, that's just, I think the male brain just hears less of something they love. And they're like, why would you take that away from me?
Starting point is 00:41:53 I've literally been. I'll hold them for you all day if you need. Yeah, I've literally been told like, God, that's a slap in God's face. I'm like, what? Yeah. This is so dramatic. Yeah, it is very dramatic, I will say. But if he's going to make it a big deal
Starting point is 00:42:07 I mean it's also not his body So he can't really be like Well what do you mean that gives you back pain But the other things So let me recap because I am one of these dumb males As I say He's doing great Thank you
Starting point is 00:42:20 He was telling his friends like I'm going to leave this girl Which was the same girl And then when the friend comes up And he's like oh you left your ex Not knowing it was the same girl Okay good I'm up to speed
Starting point is 00:42:29 Well it sounds like he matured a little bit In the relationship But was the breast Reduction, year one? He matured a little bit, but not 40. About that time, yeah. It seems like it was about that time, a year into the relationship. They've been together three years now.
Starting point is 00:42:47 She's 24. So at the time, she would have been 22. He's 28. He would have been 26. Most of his brain was developed at that time. Yeah, I think it just finished loading, honestly. It's not great. I'm sensing a theme today.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Men ain't shit. I'll say it in an Abercrombie sweater. Men ain't shit. I would like to hear where you're coming at with this. Yeah, I definitely think he's giving some really toxic weird energy. I find it really strange that he was so cowardly, didn't like you, wasn't in you after a year of a relationship and couldn't have a conversation. He'd be like, hey, I think we should break up. So he's trying to like slander your name to all these strangers.
Starting point is 00:43:33 she'll poison my dog she'll slash my tires one do you think i'm that type of person to do that if you do you don't think very highly of me and that's not a good sign or two you're just a pathetic liar and how do i trust you going forward also poisoning someone's dog that's like something they're doing like the king arthur days that's deranged it's insane that's serial killer you have to be insane to think that somebody would even do that i know so it's like where are you getting this from where are you getting this from. So honestly, like, this one feels worse than fantasy football. And fantasy football, they broke up over it. Right. And so this one, I'm like, I don't know. And like, it's like, oh, I realized I could love you no matter how small your boobs were. Love me for me. Right. Or go away. What happens if, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:21 we decide to have kids and I put on 30 pounds? The average weight gain during pregnancy is like 34 pounds. You're going to love me then? He seems fickle. Yeah. Well, the baby. yeah yeah i think it's just i don't like and i think we all know a guy like i don't like when guys kind of like um pawn off their own stress and like they they use their usually their girlfriend as like not the physical punching bag but like a punching bag where they're just almost like there's no point where they need to be like hey how are things going but dude they're good you know we have our indifferencees here and there but we're working on it like that's as deep as you need to get in that instead of like she's crazy i don't know if i like her she'll poison my dog and
Starting point is 00:45:00 slash my tires. Like, there's issues that need to be at stake. You don't need to bring that to people. I just have so many people that I, like, have heard talk about that. It feels very ecology, where it's very, like, they almost feel the need to, like, say that to, like, be cool or something, but it's really not. No. It sounds like sad a little bit. It really does. There's, there's one comment that O.P. does respond to. So someone says this. And they quote O.P., he realized when I was in the hospital, though, that he loved me, regardless of how small my boobs would end up being. And they end quote. Oh, how generous of him. So here we have a guy who got so pissed at you for a breast reduction that he slandered you to all of his friends. Then he felt just guilty
Starting point is 00:45:45 enough about it to magnanimously change his mind about dumping you, but never notified his friends that he'd lied. What a prize. Oh, yeah. OPE. I think I'm missing the big obvious stuff here. I mean, it's going over my head today too. Don't you're good. And O.P., I'd pass hard on this relationship. The Petty and Me says to dump him and immediately assure him, quote, don't worry, your tires will remain unslashed. They were nothing but supportive of my surgery. No beef with them.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah. And O.P. responds, here's the thing, though. He actually thought I was that crazy. At the time, he was really worried that I'd do something crazy. He reasoned that I was crazy enough to get surgery, crazy enough to not be disturbed and actually be interested in blood and internal organs, et cetera, crazy enough to enjoy murder mystery horror movies and actually laugh rather than be scared. So he didn't know what I was capable of, apparently. The more I put it in perspective and I picture this guy in the hospital being like, I love you, no matter if you go from a double D to a D. I will be here for you.
Starting point is 00:47:01 What guys find to be, like, sentimental is really not. Like, he probably was like, oh, just say it. Travis, go in there and tell her, you'll love her, okay? You can stitch her bras, one cup size smaller. And maybe she can start doing squats and build that ass I've always wanted. Like, he had to work himself through that and be like, this is my apology. Yeah. This is me, white flag, like, I'll so love you if you go a smaller cup size.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I know. That shouldn't even been in the, question that should just be like a wait you were worried about that guys that talk poorly about the relationship is kind of just reflect on their own i because anytime someone talks about the someone else i go like well i don't want to hear their side because now i'm just only judging you i know i wanted to see that guy's face when his friend came up and was like you ditch that crazy bitch and he's like uh how do you not recognize her yeah does he never post her guys post i was looking at my friend's instagram last night and he posted in 20
Starting point is 00:47:58 15 and then 2020. I was like, what were you doing those five years? Were you in prison? Where you been? Where you been? Guys like don't post. That is weird. You know, so like, that's also on him for not letting everyone know like, hey, this is my girlfriend, this is my life. Yeah, I need to interview a friend. Yeah, it's suspicious. I can picture this type of guy though. Yeah. Well, we don't have an update. That's all we got. That one comment from O.P. I think they're both in the same fantasy football group, though, as the last guy. I could see it. Both those guys. This post was nine years old, though. So, like, very vintage, nine years old. So we're definitely not getting an update now. Dang.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I'll never find out what cups I should go into. Went to the archives for you. Thanks to Direct Caterpillar, 77, one of our faves. Hey. Mm-hmm. Shout to Direct Caterpillar, 77. Do you play The Sims? I do. I did a lot as a child. Oh, you're going to be perfect for this next one. Perfect, perfect.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Okay. This next one is coming from A-I-T-A-H, another Am I the Asshole. type subreddit. And it's titled, Am I the Asshole for deleting my girlfriend's Sims Save Files? Yes. Let's just start by saying that I, 24 male, love my girlfriend, Alia, 20 female, very much. She's a super hardworking girl, and she spends a lot of her time on classes trying to get the highest grades possible for applying to nursing school in the near future. When she's not doing that, she's doing chores or cutting down on her ever-growing to-do list. And when she's not doing that, she's spending two hours a day playing The Sims. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:49:31 This is where the problem comes in. After all of the stuff she does, Alia doesn't have as much time to spend with me as she could. She's a perfectionist, too. So when she's doing the more serious stuff like school, she puts in more effort than necessary, which is time-consuming. It really got to me that even knowing this, she'll spend so much time on the Sims. It's something frivolous she's doing when we already only get so little time together.
Starting point is 00:50:00 She's also an adult, so essentially playing digital dolls almost every day, is kind of something she ought to grow out of by now. What's your friend's out about Madden? Literally. I decided to step in and have her cut back on this.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I obviously didn't delete the whole game, but I figured deleting the little save files she was working on would deter her from spending so much time on it. That decision backfired tremendously. When she logged on her game, she thought there was some glitch going on and kept restarting it until I explained to her
Starting point is 00:50:34 that I had removed the saves. She absolutely flipped out on me saying she'd been playing in that save file since like 2017, and I had ruined years of game progress. Sims isn't even a gold game. Question mark, question mark, question mark. I told her she was overreacting,
Starting point is 00:50:53 because she still has the game. Yeah, that's a good one to go too. And she could just remake the same little characters if it mattered so much, but it doesn't need to, and maybe now she can focus on more adult interests, like loved ones. Basically, she left immediately saying she was so stupid to leave her gaming laptop at my place, and now she won't answer my calls. I know that this is a total overreaction, but I started to feel a little bad once I realized and may not be as easy to redo her characters as I initially thought.
Starting point is 00:51:26 So, am I the asshole for deleting my girlfriend's Sims saves? Yes. Yeah, I mean, like, so many, like, what does he mean he wants her to do, like, more adults of? Does she want her to, like, play on, like, turbotax or something? Like, here, let's play chess in the park. Deleting something is only going to make her want to play that more because she's going to want to try and get back to where she was, which you're, like, literally adding work to her plate.
Starting point is 00:51:51 It's so demoralizing and just like, oh, I can't even explain the pain of like, you've already spent all this time and energy and effort to do something. And then if you have a glitch that accidentally erases it and you have to do it over again, even if it's a for fun activity, it totally takes the joy out of it again. Because you're like, I was already here. I already did all this. And you want to get back to where you were. As a man who plays, and listen, I'm a delusional man.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I play a college football NCAA on Xbox. Okay. And I've built up a character, last name Wallace, S. six three jacked unit. I mean, he's like a 250-pound quarterback, just a unit, right? Okay, yeah. Fourth season, fourth year. He's probably going to go to the NFL, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:52:31 And I've spent days playing that. And I don't really play a lot of video games just throughout like the last a year or two. I've spent just like days. Yeah. And if somebody deleted that, like, I would be sad because all that time spent, it's like building a sandcastle of the beach all day and some asshole just comes up and kicks it. You're like, well, I'm got to, I'm either sad and I'm not going to rebuild it or I'm going to rebuild it and spend even more time doing it.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Like, why shit in someone's Cheerios? You could have just said, hey, I really love some more quality time together without deleting her shit. You guys can play Sims together. Get into it. Learn what she likes and then help adapt to that. Get into it. Come on.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Do you know what those Sims characters do? They get freaky if you click the right buttons. That's so crazy to me. That's where my head went immediately when you're talking about the Sims. Because I only played it when I was young. I don't even know how old I was, probably in like sixth grade.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Okay. And there was like one family computer and I would just be like, nobody's home. With the dial up? Dial up. Oh, yeah. And I mean like, dude, it'd be so funny. I'd move these two characters into their house. There'd be no roof.
Starting point is 00:53:34 There'd be no kitchen. There'd be one room with like a heart-shaped bed and a shower. And I'd be like, do it. Oh, my God. Go to the shower, do it. Dirty. They wouldn't even have bath towels. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:53:45 But I mean, I was in like six-read. And like I didn't even know that you, it was like a loophole. I was like, you can do this? Yeah, like had just had the sex ed talk. Literally. I was making my own birds and the bees. So circling back as a man who has built up this catalog in a video game, it's not your whole life and I doubt it's taking up as much time.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Or also to this guy, it'd be more interesting. But I think that, like, if the Sims, the Sims don't even speak English and they're beating you. They're sitting there going, bo-bap-po. To your point, I would ask for more quality time. Yeah. But also, there's, in free time. I either like to be dead alone or doing something with my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:54:22 But it's like, there is times where you're just like, I'm not working. I'm not doing this. And I just, I want to zone out and play video games. Yeah. The same way you'd watch a TV show or whatever. But I think he just didn't communicate. Like deleting files? Idiot.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Absolute idiot. Top comment. Not only are you the asshole. That's some seriously controlling red flag behavior and unacceptable. What does it matter if she plays a game for a couple of hours a day? People aren't allowed leisure time. Who are you to control what they choose in their recreation time? If you want to spend more time with her, be an adult, and tell her.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And then, Aaliyah finds the post. Oh. She finds it. Really? This is good. I like this. She goes, did you really think I wouldn't find this post? Did you really think I wouldn't see how you've been talking about me?
Starting point is 00:55:16 I shudder to think what you've said. what you deleted. Why don't you tell them the real story about how you not only deleted the save files, but also hammered the backup thumb drive so hard, there's a dent on your countertop now. While I cried for you to stop. This is like a digital Jerry Springer episode. Why didn't you tell them about how you tag along to my SI group after bio because you don't want me to be out of your site? Why don't you tell them about how my best friend who's so-called in love with me literally lives in another state
Starting point is 00:55:53 and only visits once or twice a year. Why don't you tell them about how when my mother was sick a few months ago, you were blowing up my line all day, every day for attention, knowing that I was her primary caregiver 24-7. Why are you telling them you work full-time or that you manage a grocery store
Starting point is 00:56:10 when you part-time manage the fast food place inside of it? I want you to fucking take this to heart when I say this, but I have been genuinely so much worse off for knowing you. You've destroyed my self-esteem with your constant criticisms of what I enjoy. You've controlled me in every way for as long as I've known you. You don't understand boundaries or when no means no. Your racist fucking family treats me like dog shit.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And your friends are equally racist, punk bitch assholes. You ruined something I've spent years of my life growing up with and I could never bring myself to forgive you for that. no matter how much love I've poured into you. I hate you for what you did to me and for what you've been doing. I mean that. I'm going to make this so, so crystal clear since you didn't understand it the first time. All caps, we are through.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Go fuck yourself. I mean, that was a banger. And I love the receipts on that because, first of all, the seconds you said, the fast food and the grocery store, I go, okay, he's working at a McDonald's inside of a Walmart. And that guy is probably Mick jealous of her fun that she's having on the Mick Sims. Yeah, I... He's a psychopath.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Yes. He's a psychopath. Hammering a thumb drive. I don't even think that's where the game... Is that where the game is? I mean, you could probably plug that into your computer while you're playing and save both places. Oh, okay, that makes sense. But...
Starting point is 00:57:43 Like a backup in case your computer got corrupted? This guy just seems like he just needs the attention. he's a controlling psychopath your mom is sick and you're taking care of her and he just won't stop calling you won't stop calling you
Starting point is 00:57:56 checking in on you he has to walk to SI group I don't know what SSI group is Sports Illustrated that's what I thought actually though but that's I don't know
Starting point is 00:58:04 after bio so it sounds like a college class to my SI group I think if anybody writes into this forum and it's called Am I the asshole it's kind of like smelted delta thing if you're asking
Starting point is 00:58:14 you're like I mean not all the time but this guy it feels like is looking for the validation even if one person in the comments is like yeah bro fuck the Sims you got this
Starting point is 00:58:26 he's like see he needed like when people are in the wrong they need one person to tell them they're not to feel validated and I think and that's kind of what's going on here something is weird I mean I just I feel like some people
Starting point is 00:58:39 though are so delusional and if you're this level of like psychopath I just don't even think you know you're like just so like off your rocker Like, I genuinely think he thinks he's the victim in all of this still. Yeah. Like, oh, I have a true crime podcast now, too.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And I just had, like, this case. And it's, like, the worst case I've ever come across. But this guy, like, laughed at his victims being called victims. He's like, huh, victims. And it's just like, some people are just so deranged. Yeah. That's what he's giving. Like, he's crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I mean, it's like the Sims was the only thing he could blame it on because she's doing schoolwork and then also work and he's like, with any free time you should be spending it with me. Why are you playing the Sims? I know. But it's not, it seems like every ounce of attention needs to be pointed at him. I know. Well, and it's crazy too.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Like, I... Just make a Big Mac and shut up, sir. Shut up. Seriously, shut up. Like, he's 24, she's 20. Their age gap isn't. like usually you'll see this controlling dynamic from someone who's like 28 and the girlfriend's 20 because they go for younger girls that they can then control and like even though he's only 24 he's kind of following that pattern of like serious control manipulation insecure crazy jealousy like it's concerning for him like he really needs to work on himself college student playing sims is nothing out of the ordinary no he's acting like she was like 45 and would like get back from like merrill lynch him and be like, time to fire up the Sims.
Starting point is 01:00:17 It's just, that's her out. That's her release. There's two different types of release. I think in free time, it's either being with people or not. And that's her angle of not. We do get one more update from Aaliyah. Hi there. Alia here from the infamous post about my Sims 4 saves getting deleted.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I just want to put a little placeholder update on my page for anyone who's read the last post. Please note that I've turned off the ability to search my username in app because although I did want people to hear the whole story yet First, the social media response has been a bit overwhelming. I'm just a regular person, and I didn't know this would get publicized to this extent. So please be kind. All that said, update missing info here. Our ages. For one, there was some confusion about when my ex and I got together. We knew each other all of our lives since our families are close, but we started dating when I was 12 and he was 16. Uh-uh. Icky. Nope. We actually have a five-year age gap. I'm newly 20, and he turns 25 this year.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Hope it clears that up. I think it made things worse. It's so much worse. Because... 12 and 16, he can drive a car, and you're... Maybe you have your period? What? You don't even know a long division yet.
Starting point is 01:01:31 How does that work when he hits 18, and she's 13? Is that math right? Yeah. That wouldn't work in some states. Hopefully all of them. Because then he's 19... Ew! He's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:01:45 He's a controlling man And it sounds like he always has been He was the guy doing burnouts In the high school parking lot When he was like 19 Yeah It's a Camaro Not great
Starting point is 01:01:58 I mean the good part for her Is like she's 20 And it's like leave this man You have so much more life ahead of you I know Unfortunately so many people go through Like that shitty relationship And they're like 18 to like 22
Starting point is 01:02:09 Which sucks so bad But then you go like Okay this is what I don't want in life This is what I don't like Yeah you're so much about for it. It's unfortunate, but you learn a lot from it. I know, you really do. She does go on to add not only did he delete the saves and clear the recycling bin, he pulled out my backup drive and smashed it with a hammer. God damn! Once he realized that I was upset. He was like the
Starting point is 01:02:27 Epstein files were on there. He lied about not knowing it was such a detailed game because I talked to him about it a ton of times before. This was not a matter of spending time together. We regularly spent hours of every day with each other. He would insist to come along to any class or class-related activity that he wouldn't get kicked out of, like bio-study group. He just needs free to it sounds like. I gave him as much attention as I possibly could, but it was never, ever enough. Summer is in just three weeks, so we would have had time then. He was just being awful to me. He is a generally jealous, overprotective, condescending person. He pressured me into sex activities throughout our relationship, and his friends and family were all incredibly racist to me. It's past time for him to be gone from my life,
Starting point is 01:03:10 and I'm still coming to terms with all the ways he has wrecked me. Hasn't wrecked you, girl. Hasn't wrecked it. So much life to live. You're 20. Prime of your life. And now you've got this experience and like you take it and you move on and you learn. Clearing up some other questions, though, she goes on to add. My seven-year save existed across three laptops over time.
Starting point is 01:03:29 So those who were skeptical of it being able to survive on one for so long were right. I did have a password on my gaming laptop. He memorized it to get in. Jesus. He mentioned that I was dumb for leaving my laptop at his place. I said that he's done something similar before when I left my phone unintended. He went through it. promise never to again, only for me to find out months later that he'd been logged into my
Starting point is 01:03:48 Instagram account and was reading my messages daily. Some people wondered why I have no mention of him on my page. That's because I was always on edge of him going through my phone, so I deleted anything about him that I'd post. I tried to cover my tracks to avoid his anger. And then placeholder update, I was too anxious to retrieve the lost save files myself, so I'm going to go to a local tech shop in a few days to see what the professionals can do, and the laptop will remain off until then. I've looked into a restraining order recently, and ultimately it looks like I won't be able to do much as of now, but collect evidence and get cameras installed around my home. I don't go out in public anymore, alone, and I'm never without a trusted person. I appreciate all the people who have left me kind messages, sent me well wishes.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I ask that no one offer me money. I won't accept it. Lastly, this is my lived experience, not just internet drama. So please be considerate. One last update we have. my saves are restored God willing won't he do it
Starting point is 01:04:48 I'm typing this on my way to class but yes for anyone still wondering I got everything back that's so great that's awesome for her and also so funny for the guy because he like smashed hard drives he memorized the gaming password this guy's working like he's
Starting point is 01:05:04 literally trying to like docks the app scene files like this guy's really going for it this guy is a failed CIA agent in the making I'm just like, you fucking loser. You're such a loser. He's going through such lengths. I'm so glad she got all the files back.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Oh, so glad she got all the files back. She's out. She's moving on. She's going to get through school, become a nurse. I mean, this is posted May 2nd, 2024. You know, almost going to be two years soon. Give us an update, girl. Where are you at?
Starting point is 01:05:36 That would be great. Give us an update. And where's he at? And what prison is it? So we can write into him. Oh, yeah. you know. I bet he's wishing he had a Sims game to play up in there.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Little bitch. Get a friend, my guy. Get a friend. Get a friend. She's playing the Sims. Go on a walk. Read a book. Go to therapy.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Go to therapy. Don't make your issues. Everyone else's problem. Yeah. Especially your girlfriend that you groomed, you fucking weirdo. He's only looking outward, not inward at the problems here. Yeah. Therapy's good.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I mean, dude, once you're smashing thumb, like, drives and all that. At what point do you get like, oh, maybe I need to work on this? I don't know. Even people that go to prison don't think they have problems. Just saying. Yeah, that's, I'm really glad she got the Sims bag. Good for her.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Good for her. Moving on to this next one. Okay, this next one. Coming from a subreddit, R slash nanny. Okay. So it's a subreddit for support, stories, ideas, techniques, answers about the interview process wage expectations contracts all things about being a nanny okay so this is titled am i overreacting about my nanny family having sex during the day okay yeah let we should have started the episode here
Starting point is 01:06:56 really no no no um but um are you overreacting i mean there's a lot more to be written but yeah i got my thoughts okay yep hi everyone i'm a full-time nanny for a stay-at-home mom with an eight-month-old baby. Say it, ho, mom. All right, we'll move on. The baby is honestly perfect, so sweet and happy. Naps great. I've been with a family for about seven months now.
Starting point is 01:07:21 The mom and dad are both amazing employers. They're super nice to me. The mom gets me Starbucks and Asaiboles. Even makes me lunch sometimes. I make $32 an hour with great benefits in my medium cost of living area. So overall, this is a dream job. Here's... Sounds like a cream job.
Starting point is 01:07:41 I'll let you finish. Here's my only issue. I'm pretty sure the parents are having sex during the dad's lunch break. Maybe every day or every other day. It's a lunch break. They go to their room and I never see anything inappropriate. But sometimes I hear what I think might be the bed moving. It's not loud or anything, just enough to make me realize what's going on.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Afterwards, her hair is made. messy, clothes changed, that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, at least try to hide it. Try to have a car somewhere, you know, actually the good old days, but this is not starting right. Today, I asked the mom what she was up to when she came out of the room and she didn't really say much. I kind of jokingly said, quote, oh, were you napping?
Starting point is 01:08:33 And she got a little red and awkward. That pretty much confirmed it for me. I know they're married adults and it's their house, but it still makes me feel a little uncomfortable since I'm taking care of their baby. They're not being disrespectful or obvious, but it just feels weird. Would it be totally out of line to ask them not to do that while I'm working? Or am I overreacting and should I just let it go? They really are such a great family and I don't want to make things awkward if this is just me being overly sensitive. What would you do?
Starting point is 01:09:06 this is tricky because on one hand it's disgusting and weird and violates everything HR on the other hand maybe they're trying to make another baby to keep employing her oh don't hurt your income stream you know but obviously you can do that when maybe the uh they're not there when they're not nannying yeah um I think I think yeah they know what's going on I think that's probably like it's not great I can get how it feels a little uncomfortable. You know, it's one of those things where it's like, we all know we all do it or whatever. Everyone does it.
Starting point is 01:09:42 But when you can hear it, now you're thinking about it. Yeah, no, I just don't want to hear it. So, like, if I was going to give this nanny advice, I'd say, hey, $32 an hour is amazing. Like, amazing. This woman is buying you coffee and asai bowls and making you lunch some days. You say it's a dream family.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Not every nanny family is like this. Not every nanny family is this nice. Like, no. So what I would do is, hey, you know their lunch is their time together as a couple, which is great. You need to prioritize intimacy and sex, if that's a part of your relationship, do it. Put the baby in a buggy, a little stroller, and every day at lunch, you go take a little walk. That's your new routine. Get out of the house.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Oh. Get out of the house. Let them do their thing. I also am coming from a really, like, sex and me are kind of desensitized. Like I did my doctoral thesis on like intimacy and addressing sex as a part of psychosocial needs in the acute care settings. Like in a hospital setting, that was like my whole doctoral thesis basically because it's not addressed and it's so important. What do you mean in a hospital setting? So like when you are in acute care, like oftentimes I worked on a neuro unit.
Starting point is 01:10:57 So that was like my thing. It's like you have a stroke or you have, you know, a brain tumor, this and that. yes, you're focused on healing and like therapy, but also like sex is an ADL. It's an activity of daily living. So it's a big part of a lot of people's lives and even not sex, but intimacy. Cuttling. How can we just cuddle and connect as a partner? Like still. So it's not talked about. Like I did a speech at like a stroke panel in Palm Springs and talked about sex and like different adaptations and equipment and this and that. And, a couple people came up to me after, and they were like, I had a stroke five years ago
Starting point is 01:11:37 or seven years ago, whatever it was. This is the first time someone's talking about this with me. And it's like, that should be talked about in the acute stage early on. Hey, yeah, you might have limitations, but you should still be prioritizing sex. But, okay, this is a whole soapbox, but sex is important. It's an activity of daily living. And it sounds like this husband was also having a stroke upstairs. But I think the biggest, I was really not trying to be inappropriate doing that. That's very fascinating stuff. It's crazy. There's so many cool devices. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:05 This is just my niche. It's just bizarre because it's like, you know it's not right, but do you bring it up? It's like, do you live with that? Does that money now become dirty money because you're like, yeah, I'm getting paid well? And I'm getting crust cut off my sandwiches, but I have to listen to that. I guess it's personal preference. But what is she really listening to? Like, there's no mention of moaning.
Starting point is 01:12:27 She's maybe hearing a bad move. Yeah. That's a good point. If you don't have any, like, confirmation or they're not being, like, flirty in front of you, it's a little better. It is a little, I think it just comes down to personal preference. If you can, like, at least say, like, this could be what's happening up there and I'm not okay with it, then we find a new family. Or if it is, like, honestly, it's a pretty good gig. Sure, they move the couch around a lot upstairs.
Starting point is 01:12:54 I guess it's just personal preference if you're okay with that or not. Put headphones on. Get some noise canceling headphones. Talk it up as a work expense. Do it back. Invite a guy home. Oh, now you're getting fire. Fireball offenses. Yeah. Fire with fire. Yeah, I feel like it's just, it's pounded. I mean, yeah. It's just interesting because you're in there, like, home. It is, I will say, like, I'm obviously a little more desensitized to this. Is it uncomfortable? You're maybe directly beneath them in the living room and you're hearing a bad move? Yeah. If it feels like something you need to get off your chest and just say, hey, it's, you know, making me uncomfortable. Like, Yeah, they could probably find another time, realistically.
Starting point is 01:13:36 But at the end of the day, like, you have to kind of determine is it worth me potentially losing my job and this really good gig? That's what I think comes down to personal. And that's, you've got to be true to yourself. I also think there could be a way. Okay. I hope this isn't manipulative. But you could say, hey, well, you guys were up there, little Timmy, blaming on the kid. Little Timmy was wondering what was going on up there.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And I, like, walked up the stairs and I heard something. Like, I don't, I just don't know what I should tell your son. You know, you're the middleman. Is that too weird? If you're like, hey, he was asking what was going on, though. I didn't know what to say. I, like, heard some noises. And I'm sure you guys weren't doing that.
Starting point is 01:14:16 You know what I mean? You guys weren't? Right? You guys weren't? Right? I don't know. It is a weird thing because then it's like, is that only, you can see how much further it gets. Because then, like, maybe the guy, the husband's like, yeah, she never hears it.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Maybe we can do this more or like, ah, the door's closed, whatever. Who cares? Like, you know, it's a, it's a weird in between. I know. It's very unique because it sounds like both of them were working from home or the guy would come home on his lunch break. He would come home for lunch. And then like, it's so crazy because like in any other job, obviously this wouldn't be acceptable.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Like if your boss was having sex in their office on lunch break, it'd be like, oh, yeah, no, get HR involved. So if you look at it from this way, like. It's weird because the office. is attached to the house, meaning it's just the house. It's like, well, we're upstairs. Yeah. It'd be like if you had a different room, like, if your office building was downstairs and your
Starting point is 01:15:10 apartment was at the top floor, except the difference is one floor. Yeah. Blur's the lines. I know. It's tough. Some people were saying that they should sue for, like, sexual harassment. Yo. And then everyone else in the comments was like, no, this is horrible advice.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Do not sue them. What are you doing? so I don't know if there's any lawyers that want to chime in like is this wrongful termination it doesn't there's no mention of a contract there's no mention of like anything like that one of the top comments oh girl laughing my ass off at $32 an hour i would just put on headphones while baby naps and mind my business personally i would let it go maybe that's the reason you're paid so well in the first place let mama lay it down on him so you can make $64 an hour But I think if you, yeah, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:16:03 I think it just comes down on with personal morals. The same way that somebody just put headphones on, like, oh, whatever. And then they come back down in 10 minutes who gives a shit. But if that is something where you're like, it can me out and it's too weird for me, there's definitely families where both parents are at work. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:17 They're not working from home. Yeah. And so I guess, it is. And that's a really good point. Because I have to realize, like, not everyone is as just like can brush it off. And I would definitely, I'd be, I would be uncomfortable. but I would find a solution that doesn't involve telling them
Starting point is 01:16:33 and I also think it was weird that she kind of shamed her like, oh, were you napping? Yeah, because then it's only going to get Find your business. It's going to lead to a level where you're going to be more direct with the, oh wow, you guys must have been stressed.
Starting point is 01:16:48 You look pretty calm or... Like, that's so inappropriate. You're at the end of the day an employee. They can fire you at will. So if it's a boundary for you, then yeah, give them notice and find a different family. but, like, don't be unprofessional.
Starting point is 01:17:01 We do have a couple more comments from O.P. Please. Someone goes, you are overreacting. I don't think you should make comments to them about what they are doing behind closed doors. I personally feel you should not ask them to not do that. You're overstepping and making it an issue.
Starting point is 01:17:15 You said they aren't loud, nor making it obvious. Adults do adult things. O.P. goes, but I'm working. You don't think it's disrespectful to fuck while someone's taking care of your kids under your roof. It's making me uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:17:28 They both go in the bedroom and come out, hair messy and smiley. It makes me feel weird. Someone goes, I mean, good for them. Many parents end up hating each other during the baby years. These guys are lucky. They can afford a nanny and maintain a healthy sex life. They treat you well. You can't actually hear anything, so I would not be making things awkward.
Starting point is 01:17:50 O.P. goes, it's very awkward. They both come down smiley and happy and in a good mood. Like, guys, I know what you just did. You just had sex. Yeah. Someone goes, then quit. Damn. O.P. responds, this is a super good paying job.
Starting point is 01:18:07 The parents are beyond nice. This is the only flaw. I wonder why they're so nice. I still think maybe I should mention it and maybe they'll stop fucking during my workday. They won't. Because then I think if they mentioned, it'll probably just fire her.
Starting point is 01:18:18 It's really a unique, awkward situation. Because then if you wear headphones and you come down, it's like you were never wearing headphones throughout the day and then you have headphones in. Well, maybe that might give them a clue because if you're not wearing headphones, then they come down, you have headphones on.
Starting point is 01:18:33 You're like, oh, hey, guys. Yeah, I just. Then that might be like, oh, you have headphones on. Oh, did you hear it? Maybe. We do get context that OP is 28 years old because my first thought was like,
Starting point is 01:18:46 how old are they? Like, is this an 18 year old nanny? 20 year old nanny? Like 28, I'm like, okay, they've been a nanny for a decade. but we do get an update. That Friday morning, I told my nanny mom that I wanted to talk during the baby's nap and she said, okay.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I brought up how uncomfortable I felt about what I thought was going on and mentioned how I could sometimes hear or notice things that made me think they were having sex while I was there. I told her it made me uncomfortable, and that's when everything went downhill. Yep. She was very direct with me. She said my only job was to take care of the baby. not to worry about what she and her husband were doing. Damn.
Starting point is 01:19:27 She told me if I had downtime, I could watch TV or read a book. I told her it just seemed weird that she'd come out with messy hair or different clothes. And she explained that sometimes they do workout videos in their room. Sometimes it's sex. P90X. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. She threw that in there. She's like, yeah, sometimes we're watching some P90X, some old 70s workout videos.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Sometimes we're getting clapped. Sometimes it's sex. Sometimes it's cuddling. and sometimes they're just napping. She said whatever happens in her bedroom is none of my business. After that, things got really quiet. She wasn't mean, but I could tell she was uncomfortable and hurt. Then she told me I could go home for the day,
Starting point is 01:20:09 and I just knew that meant I was done. Later, she texted saying that they were going to move in another direction, and that was it. I feel horrible. I know I crossed a boundary, and I regret bringing it up so much. I miss them terribly. The money was amazing. My nanny mom was so kind
Starting point is 01:20:28 and their baby was absolutely perfect. I really wish I could fix this and somehow get my job back. How do I get my job back? Buy them lube. I really don't think. This is a lesson learned and you move on. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:45 You're not getting rehired. It's a lesson learned, but also I think how she would have continued to work there and not brought it up, she would have just still felt this weird emotion. because it felt like this family wouldn't have stopped doing that. Damn if you do, damn if you don't type thing. Because if she stayed there, she'd be like, God, I should quit.
Starting point is 01:20:58 This is beginning weird. I know. She left and she's like, why did I leave? It wasn't that weird. Yeah, I think for this person's brain and, like, way of thinking and uncomfortability, I do think the confrontation needed to happen. And now it's like, hindsight's always 20-20. Like, you would have left and then regretted it and been like, well, if I would have just talked to them,
Starting point is 01:21:18 maybe they would have stopped. She got the clarity she was looking for. Yeah. Are you guys doing this? She's like, yeah, you know, sometimes we're doing a hit class upstairs or sometimes he's hitting, you know, it's just really, it is a bizarre, awkward thing to deal with, which I'm surprised that nobody else in that nanny support was like, yeah, this happens sometimes.
Starting point is 01:21:36 It's bizarre. Here's what I do. I know. Not many comments I see on the original post. I mean, someone does, like, after the update, go back and comment and it's just like, you were way out of line confronting because you suspect the married adults may have taken advantage of what they expected to be private time to do private things. Really, O.P., the kid is napping. Instead of taking a break or focusing on cleaning or preparing for other activities,
Starting point is 01:21:59 you were being creepy, eavesdropping, listening for bed cracks, generating a fence that they might have, probably did enjoy a private, intimate mutual activity in the most private space in their home. You're the problem, the whole problem. Damn. But, you know, I feel like I'm going to push back if I'm that nanny and I'm like trying to read a book and you hear like stuff moving upstairs like that's all my head's going to be thinking about like it's you can not address it but like there is a thought in the back of your head that you're like the curiosity you're just like yeah you can't yeah you can't like it's hard to focus yeah and it's like it's going on around me like it's just it is like how i don't know i can't turn it out it's like you're like oh i'm putting headphones in
Starting point is 01:22:41 so i don't hear them having sex it's not like i'm putting headphones because i want to listen to this song or this podcast. It's like there is an underlying tone that like needs to be addressed somehow or some way. But I don't think it just probably felt very confrontational to be like, hey, can we talk, this and that? Yeah, no. If someone's confronted me like this in my home, you're done. Yeah. You're done. But then again, like, how do you bring it up nonchalantly? I don't know, you don't. I guess it's also not your house. I don't know. It's hard. And like so many people are like, girl in this economy, do what you want in that room. Just pay me, L.O.L. Like, so many people are coming from a place of, like, you're getting paid $32 an hour.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Like, just find something else to do with your time. Like, again, I don't even care if the baby's napping. Put the baby in the stroller. It can nap. Yeah, here's what you do. You look at the other job listings for a nanny and you go, okay, this one pays 20 an hour. I probably don't want to hear sex. Or 32 an hour, and I might have to hear some uncomfortable stuff for about four to eight minutes.
Starting point is 01:23:35 It's not long. That is interesting, though. We do get one last kind of brief update. they did text the nanny mom trying to get their job back Nanny mom responded that she forgives me and that she hopes I take this as a learning experience but they won't hire me back I miss her so much
Starting point is 01:23:53 she said she talked to her husband about everything and they decided to give me a month's pay until I find a new job it ends up being $5,200 yeah like she really blew a great gig like what is that math on the year
Starting point is 01:24:09 mom you're really quick with the sexual puns you know there's just a lot in this one yeah 65K yeah I think for what this nanny does is she just Googles every private school in the area and just hangs out of front
Starting point is 01:24:27 hey do you need more time for you and your husband be intimate I charge 32 an hour for you guys to do whatever hell you want upstairs I want to ask questions yeah I'll bring the AirPods the the pros, they cancel out the sound. Sony, baby.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. O.P. does go on to say, to be honest, maybe a part of the problem was that I was a little jealous of her. Oh, interesting. She's a stay-at-home mom, beautiful, only 28. Rich has this gorgeous home,
Starting point is 01:24:57 and her and her husband are truly happy. The mom was 28? Mm-hmm. Oh, well, yeah, wasn't the babysitter also 28? Mm-hmm. That's where the jealousy was. She's such a good mom, and it just felt like she had this perfect life,
Starting point is 01:25:08 her dream life, and I'm the same age, and I think that made me feel small in ways that I didn't even realize at the time. I hate admitting that, but it's true. Damn. Now I just feel so lost. I miss them so much. I keep wishing I could go back and do things differently. I know I can't, but I still hope one day I can find a family even half as good as them. I don't know if I should try reaching out again down the road, or just accept that it's over and move on. Part of me wants to hold on to hope, but part of me knows that I need to respect their decision. Any advice on what I can do to maybe get them back or should I just leave it and start fresh. I'm really debating. It sounds like she was really close with the mom because of the same age. It sounded like just
Starting point is 01:25:47 like a friend. I was like I think they can still be friend. Just be friends with her. She's like a permanent third wheel. Like like they should all they could all go out to dinner and just not talk because not at once that she mentioned she misses like well maybe she does. I don't know. She doesn't mention like she misses the child. She's like I miss the mom. I miss the mom. I think her and the mom still be I know. I know. You guys could all go out to eat together. She does say. I miss my nanny baby so much. I'm kind of paraphrasing a little bit. I can't believe I won't be going back.
Starting point is 01:26:14 It breaks my heart because they were such a big part of my life. It sucks. It's a tough, tough lesson to learn. But given all that, like, I guess for me, like I always make decisions kind of like that risk analysis.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Why didn't you consider all this that you might get fired? Like, if you love them so much, like, didn't you kind of have it in your head? It was probably like impulsive when she was deciding to have the conversation. Probably like just happened. It was like, hey, did you and your husband just? But then again, I've also been on her side where it's like there's something just on my mind, all my mind, on my mind. And it's like I'm one sentence away from letting that out. You know, or like one more scenario. It's like she was probably thinking about it. And then like that Friday or whatever day it was, the husband and wife go up there and you're like, I just got to say something. Or she like overvaluated like their closeness. Like she thought they were like a lot closer than they actually were. And.
Starting point is 01:27:08 And, like, the boundaries and lines kind of got blurred for her. Almost, like, to your example, you said, I really understand out, you're like, mother-in-laws. Like, hey, I'm a part of the family. It's where do you guys do that? And they're like, you're an employee. Yeah. No, and that's, like, a good. I think, like, I'm thinking about that, too, with the holidays coming up.
Starting point is 01:27:24 It's like, there have been stories where, like, in-laws are, like, no sex under our roof. And it's like, well, if we're here for two weeks. We got to go to a red roof in or something. Come on. Yeah. I remember when I was younger, my sister brought her first boyfriend home from, like, college or, like, right out of college or something. And, like, he had to sleep. And, like, it was very, like, my parents, like, very cookie cutter clean.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Like, all right, I forget his name because this was a couple acts ago. You sleep on the couch and my sister, you're in your room. And it just makes the dynamic weird. It almost probably makes people want to, like, do the opposite. Yeah. Yeah. My mom was the same way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:02 I snuck downstairs on that couch. Yeah, there you go. Like, it just, I mean, it's, if people are going to have sex, they're going to find, like, they're going to find a way. If there's a will, there's a way. It's just interesting, and it doesn't make it, like, right by any means, but I guess it is something to take into account. If you are being a nanny, you are freeing up the parents' time. Yeah. So parents can do work, but it also frees up time for what they don't have because the second you leave, the kid's like, mama, dad, I want to hang out.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And they're like, we just finish work. Yeah. We got to go move a couch upstairs. I don't know. I know. It's not great, but, yeah, I just want to tell anybody that, like, it's good money because it's, if it doesn't align with you, then it doesn't align with you. Exactly. Whatever, whatever, you know, you can live with.
Starting point is 01:28:48 That's a tricky one, though. It is really tricky. And when you think about it in that way where it's, like, in a traditional job setting, boss could not have sex in their office during lunch break. So if you do look at it that way, you're like, it's not necessarily right, but. It was just bizarre because, like, let's say they were on a, like a townhouse where there's three stories and kids are on the bottom and on the top and you don't hear anything, then you don't have, it's only because there was, like, the thought that there was heard a little bit. I know, but then, like, a lot of people were like, why are you listening so intently? Like, why are you trying to hear them and catch them? I think it's almost like, it's just like curiosity.
Starting point is 01:29:24 I know. It's like in every scary movie, you hear a leaf outside and, like, we got to see what it is. Oh, my God. You hear, like, one, like, you know, spring in the match. You're like, hold on. It also sucks if the husband's hot, too. I mean, she kind of came clean with it at the end. She's like, I'm jealous.
Starting point is 01:29:39 She's got the life I want. And so maybe that was the real issue, which is a little creepy. It is a little creepy. But self-awareness, first step to healing, maybe? Overall, it's better she's not there anymore. And she can be friends with them if she wants. But she got the answer she was looking for. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:56 And instead of the parents lying. Very true. Okay. Let me give you a choice. Do you want that? breastfeeding story to end with? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:07 So last one, you guys, it does get a little weird. Some of the comments kind of, I don't know, they mentioned like this is very inappropriate. I'm not a parent. I don't know what's appropriate or inappropriate for an eight-year-old. So proceed with care. And if you can't, thank you so much for being here and enjoying this episode with us and see you next week.
Starting point is 01:30:31 But this one. But if you're long for the ride, scrap in. So this is coming from off my chest eight days old, titled, I caught my boyfriend's literally off the chest.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I caught my boyfriend's stepmom breastfeeding her eight-year-old. Okay, hold on. Let's work this backwards. Your boyfriend's stepmom breastfeeding an eight-year-old. This happened a week ago and it is still making me sick.
Starting point is 01:30:55 At our joint family Thanksgiving, we do this to save time, knock it out one day. I was sitting with my boyfriend, his dad, my dad, his stepmom, and her eight-year-old daughter. The daughter starts to complain to her mom that she's hungry, so I offered to take her to the kitchen to make her a plate
Starting point is 01:31:10 since I was going in there anyways to refill my drink. The daughter started yelling and said, No, I want mommies. So I thought that she meant the dish that her mom brought. So I said, Lila, not her real name, we can go get something on a plate and then bring it back here so you can eat it with your mommy. She's very attached to her mom.
Starting point is 01:31:30 then the stepmom sighs and then takes her into the guest room, which I assume is to correct her behavior for yelling. My mom used to do that. Yeah. I get a play to the casserole her mom brought and go to take it into the guest room where the stepmom and daughter are. And I knock. The stepmom said, come in. So I did and saw her fully breastfeeding her daughter like she was a baby. Who? What? Come in? Uh, no. Like holding her in her lap and saying things like,
Starting point is 01:32:00 Good, good. Is it yummy? Oh. I out loud go, what the fuck? True. And so my boyfriend comes over and has the same reaction. I just shut the door, try not to be sick because there's no way that the stepmom is lactating. She even told us before that she couldn't breastfeed
Starting point is 01:32:19 when she had her other daughter. So this whole thing just makes me sick. I always noticed that she babyed the 8-year-old, but never thought that she would go this far. My boyfriend and I immediately said that we're cutting the night short and politely asked everyone to leave. So everyone leaves, and the stepmom pulls me aside before she leaves with my boyfriend's dad, and other daughter, and said, you have no right to judge me. She was hungry.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Thinking about this still makes me nauseous. My boyfriend was equally disgusted and decided to go low contact with them after this incident. He made the call that they are not allowed back in our home. I'm literally shaking as I write this because it is so disturbing and gross. Has nobody heard of Way protein? Does nobody hear of like, oh, you're hungry? Let me whip up a protein shake real quick. Well, like, I, first thing I googled is, quote, how old should you stop breastfeeding your child? Yeah. I think when they can start asking. Mama, milky. You're done. It's like you know my name. Get off. If they're coming up to, running up to you being like booby, no. Yeah. Well, I'm hungry is like such a full sentence of like, okay. Well, let's get, let's get some moths for you.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Yeah. No applesauce? I don't know. Like Google says when it feels right, so it's up to each parent, obviously, often between 12 months and three years. Okay, so they're way out of the range. They're kids are talking at three. They're like really talking. Kids are potty trained at three.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Are you in a grade at eighth grade? What are you in? First, second? At three? Eight. Oh, eight? Second grade? Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Right? Kindergarten, you're like five. first grade, you're six, seven. How do you even pack of lunch? Just peanut butter and jelly and breast milk? It feels disgusting. To me, I'm sorry. It feels fucking disgusting.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Eight years old? No. No. No. It feels like that, yeah. Because when would that stop? When would the kid be like, hey, actually this is weird. It feels a little bit like, we're getting into dangerous territories right now.
Starting point is 01:34:22 But it feels a little bit like that munch hounds and syndrome where they're like, you need me. You need me to give you nutrients. Yeah. I need a microwave. You're on it. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Because I don't want to start pointing fingers and saying like, but that feels like the mom is using them to, and how defensive she got to be. Yeah. My daughter needed. Me. You don't, you can't judge this. Well, you know, we can't, but the internet can. You're insane. Well, and it's hard because like, O.P. out of the line, like, I don't think she's lactating.
Starting point is 01:34:54 But yet the mom was like. She just has like a go-garet next her nipple. I don't, yeah, I don't know. But the mom was like, she was hungry, which it's like, oh, she was hungry, so you fed her. So it makes me think she is lactating. Right. So it's like there, maybe like, maybe this writer doesn't really understand or maybe there's been something said in the past.
Starting point is 01:35:13 But like, it's kind of confusing because it's like, is she genuinely breastfeeding or is this like going down a really actually dark, dark line? And kind of getting into like essay, like child abuse. Yeah, I would really hope she's breastfeeding or else what is Otherwise call CPS Call CPS, call 911 Call animal control Call everybody
Starting point is 01:35:37 Get somebody Get somebody on the horn It's bad This is why I was so scared I was like I don't know if I should read this one What are the comments saying And you know I'm thinking very much here In the reality of how bizarre it is
Starting point is 01:35:53 But listen there's thousands of jokes I mean, you don't have to hold An eight-year-old's tall enough to just walk up and be like, put it in. I know. You don't have to cradle that thing. She threw a tantrum to get the tit. When you're throwing-
Starting point is 01:36:04 I've been there before. Like, I know toddlers do it, but like eight? Eight, if she can write in cursive, she shouldn't be breastfeeding. If you know your own name, you're done. What's your name? Trevor.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Goodbye. Or put it in a bottle and be like, oh, wow, it's vanilla-way protein extract. And the fact that they even said, come in, like she was doing something normal. I know. I think this lady's a little deranged
Starting point is 01:36:30 and I don't think the kid, the eight-year-old, knows how bizarre it is. No, top comment. You know what? This post is a nice reminder to stop procrastinating when I have things to do. If I hadn't procrastinated, then I likely wouldn't have seen this.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Someone goes, right? Time to do my laundry. Totally get that feeling. Some posts are wild enough to snap you right back to your to-do list. Well, that is enough of Reddit today. I'm logging off. A lot of people that do leave, like, actual comments about the post, they say, her daughter is so fucking stunted.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Oh, my God. She should be judged for this shit. An eight-year-old should not be breastfeeding. Okay. I'm glad the internet is taking that stance instead of being like, well, some people age differently. There are people that share similar experiences in the comments, too. Someone goes, so actually, my mother-in-law was a part of a La Leche League and my hubby's ex-wife, Breastéleche League. and my hubby's ex-wife breastfed their child until he was six.
Starting point is 01:37:26 La Lecee league. I don't know. We're Googling. Spanish lece is milk. Yeah. It helps breastfeeding mothers and parents worldwide with support, education, and encouragement. Huh. So maybe some leagues, they encourage you to breastfeed as long as you can.
Starting point is 01:37:42 I'm not sure. That's just kind of what I'm gathering from other posts. But... Eight is unreal. That is far too long for someone that... does not have a child, so take that with a grain of salt, but... And, I mean, God, those poor nipples must be... Eight years of that?
Starting point is 01:37:58 From what I've heard, it does not feel good. It is a bite down for eight years? I saw a post somewhere recently that this woman got her nipple bit off from her kid breastfeeding. God, damn, they must have been hungry. Took a chunk. Yikes! Yeah. Well, I'm glad the Internet was on our side on this,
Starting point is 01:38:19 because it's always weird when you read something in that vein, you're like, God, it's like, sometimes I'll read an Instagram or I'll watch a video on Instagram, be like, God, this person's such an idiot loser in the comments. You are like, you are love this. And I'm like, wait, am I the bad guy? Yeah, I think that a lot. Somebody validate me. I know, I think that a lot.
Starting point is 01:38:33 I'm just sitting here. I'm a little stunned. I'm a little shell shocked, but I know I like, I did this to us. So sorry, everyone. But you didn't give a nice warning beforehand. Like, hey, this is a wild ride. I tried. This is like the end scene credits.
Starting point is 01:38:49 I know. Roll the credits. I know. If you want something a little maybe more chipper and just, you know, funny, no trauma, go check out Trevor's podcast. Hey. Where can they find you? My podcast is called Stiv Sox.
Starting point is 01:39:02 We have an episode on here years ago with Michael and I. And then I'm just on tour. I'm all over the world right now. I'm doing like 30 more shows. 30? Yeah. And then I'm filming a special on Phoenix in March. So very funny side of stuff, Trevor Walls.
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Starting point is 01:39:56 Yeah. Makes me feel better about the world. They're reading some of these stories. Do you feel better about like your guyness too? You're like, I'm a good guy. Because a lot of that felt like very young and immature, like the guys who were writing it were being written in about like how they're mature and how they handle stuff. And I go, I would never handle something like that. And I go, oh, that's good.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Yeah. It's a good sign. Yeah, 21 real version. Yeah. I don't want her in my fantasy league. And now I'm like, well, you shouldn't have lied. That's growth. Development, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Development. If you were an immature guy and you heard this, do you think it would get the wheels turning? Or do you think they'd get defensive? Do you think they might not be ready yet? How do you think an immature guy would respond to the stories today? Would they feel attacked? I don't think they would feel attacked.
Starting point is 01:40:41 I think they would see where they could have coached that guy. And they wish that guy could have been their friends. So they could have told them like, hey, maybe don't approach it like this. Don't approach it like that. Okay, I like that. Some sideline coaching. You know, we want to create a safe space. Don't want anyone to feel tired.
Starting point is 01:40:52 We do. And, you know, it sounds like a lot of the guys were like, not all of them, but they were like younger 20s and that's like, it's not a guy's best years. Everybody goes, yeah, it's the peak years. You're dumb. You're a dumb guy. Wait till you're 26, you're paying taxes and you don't have your family insurance plan anymore.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Oh. That's when you become a man. That hurt. That hurt. And you know what? And for the last thing I'll say on here, if you're a dude, go play some sims and realize how fun it can. envy. And just you forget about the pain in life. Go play the Sims. Yeah. Get some hobbies.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Get a hobby. Play a game. That's all she wrote. Thank you guys. And until next time, bye. Thank you for having me. You know,

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