Two Hot Takes - 270: Painful Truths? Ft. Joshua Bassett

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Joshua Taylor Bassett! Josh just released his first memoir, Rookie, where he shares some vulnerable truths. So it's perfect timing for him to she...d some light on if these Reddit stories were a bit too honest or if the truth, however painful, was necessary. From a fiancé that gets a matching tattoo with his girl best friend, to an open mic night gone wrong, to an OP who finds a journal where her husband trashes her, and more! Need your takes on these ones! Checkout Rookie & Joshua's Content: https://www.instagram.com/joshuatbassett/?hl=en https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Rookie/Joshua-Bassett/9798893311846 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkWPW_qkJ2b0a26spv-ymFQ Partners: State Farm: Talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can choose to bundle and save with the Personal Price Plan®. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there®. Prime Video: Obsession is in session. Watch only on Prime. Patreon BONUS Content including FREE stories: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ NEW MERCH:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.twohottakes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ WRITE IN TO US!! Our SubReddit! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoHotTakes/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Index: 00:00 -- Start Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:24 I'm like crashing out. I'm so excited to have you on. So happy to be here. for having me. Joshua, Taylor, Bassett. I love the Taylor. Thank you. I love that you're bringing that in. Thank you. I actually originally wanted that to be my name when I first came to LA when I was 16. I wanted my name to be Joshua Taylor. And my team was like, no, you can't do that. And I was like, that's dumb why. And they just wouldn't let me do it. And then I kept trying to change it. My record label would be like, no, it'll ruin the algorithm. And I'm like, just let me do what I want to do. So I finally
Starting point is 00:00:52 got my team to agree. Sign on. Well, with your book coming out, I feel like it's a good time to like, you can kind of transition. Oh, absolutely. Well, now that I'm an all. author. New chapter, exactly. And by the way, I didn't tell you this. I just found this out 10 minutes ago, but I'm a New York Times best selling author. Which is crazy, bro. Like, that's my top three life goals of all time. So that's pretty nuts. Do you get an award when you make that list? Maybe. I think it's just a personal, maybe, I'm sure. There's got to be something. But I literally found that out on the way here. So crazy. You're having a good day. Yeah, I'm having a pretty good day. It's going to be a good day. I love that. We have like a weird, and you're not going to remember him
Starting point is 00:01:26 at all because it was such probably a blip for you. But you've worked with my husband before. In music, he recorded your vocals for a high school musical track. Who's your husband? His name's Justin Thunstrom. He's like a duo. It was literally, it's a blip in your timeline. Did he write it or just record it?
Starting point is 00:01:43 He just recorded it. They produced it out after because he was signed with Disney. Got you. But it's just like, I feel like the universe is so weird in that way where the world is so small. Totally. It's like that invisible string theory almost in a sense. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:56 LA is a lot smaller than people think. It really is. Same with New York. It's like, yeah, once you know a few people, you kind of know everyone. Yeah. No, I love that. But I've been loving your book. I have so many pages dog-eared here.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And I feel like for me and someone who's like been dealing with a lot of burnout and just like mental health is just always so ever present. It's almost like a brain chemistry shifting like moment for me this week, like reading it. Like there's so many little things I've like. I've bookmarked and I'm like, I'm very excited to hear your takes because you're just, for being 25, it just feels like you've, you've had so many insane experiences. Yeah. It's just like it feels very profound in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Wow, thank you. That's awesome. That's a big word for me. Well, that's, yeah, a huge word. But I mean, I think that's like, you know, there's probably 17,000 notes in my phone right now. I have a different I cloud for my iPad that has another 7,000 notes. Oh, my gosh. So I'm always just like writing nuggets down.
Starting point is 00:02:54 and I think the more you you look for them, the more they present themselves. Yeah. You know, even on the way here, like I'll take a note or a voice memo or last night I was eating food with my friend outside of my car. And I didn't have my phone. I grabbed her phone and just hit record. And I was like, I had this theory about this thing. And, you know, the more you just like document it and start looking for it and pulling
Starting point is 00:03:13 that thread, the more things kind of show up. And, you know, I've been always just like a very curious person. And that got me in a lot of trouble when I was a kid because, you know, we'd be at a theater that my sisters were doing a show at. And I'd like, there's got to be a way to get on. the roof. Like there has to be and I would like find my way onto the roof or like into the basement or I get myself into all kinds of trouble because I was just very curious how things work, you know, how to get into things. And that curiosity though it was definitely a big setback when
Starting point is 00:03:37 I was younger, I think has been one of my greatest strengths. I think in my adult life is just always being curious about the universe and how it works and why it works and maybe to a fault. Sometimes I could just chill a little bit and like not care so much. But yeah. And I also write in the book that wisdom comes from life experience. And in my short, now 25 years, I've lived about 10 lifetimes. And so I think that because I've had so many experiences in my life, like, you just learned so much more. You know, I moved out when I was 16.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I can't believe that. Like moving to L.A. by yourself at 16 and you talk about it in the book, you're like, I was living in my car and showering at the gym. And it's like, for a 16 year old to do that is insane. Like, absolutely insane. Where I'm like, do you realize that, right? Oh, yeah. But at the time, I was so ready.
Starting point is 00:04:22 You're just so crazy. I don't know. I mean, my parents were very strict, and I was homeschooled, I say in quotes, but I was really no schooled. And I, you know, they wouldn't really allow me to do anything. And then overnight, it was like, okay, well, now this LA thing's happening. And you kind of just got to go for it. And so I went from being actually very reckless and rebellious when I was around my parents
Starting point is 00:04:46 to being given full independence and growing up really quickly. And so it's interesting how I felt like I was When I finally had that freedom and independence I didn't abuse it I was very much like You know I'd be at a party and they'd be doing cocaine in the bathroom And I'd be like I'd have to leave Like I can't be part of this like
Starting point is 00:05:02 You know I was so militant and like Almost living up to that standard they had set But now that you weren't under their roof You're like Right There's almost like Have you ever heard of like opposition defiance disorder? But I can guess
Starting point is 00:05:14 But so that was kind of me Like I relate to in like the sense Where like high school My parents were so strict And so I would like try to really push against that, found my ways on a roof, was driving across the country at 16. Like, I was just trying to be so independent. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:28 But then once I had it, I was like, yes. Okay, wait, let's roll it back a little bit. 100%. Yeah, it's such an interesting irony. It's like, I think that each human has a sense of independence and free will. And while parents are obviously, it's essential that they guide their kids and that they restrict certain things. And, you know, you don't let your little kids around the candy you are because they aren't
Starting point is 00:05:49 you're a right, but at a certain age, they do have a choice. Yeah. Instead of trying to control their choices, I think is trying to teach them how to make the right choice, right? And yeah, I totally agree that there's a weird phenomenon that happens when you get the independence. I know. It's crazy. Yeah. I'm trying to find a line here because I think all of your experiences are really going to lend some interesting, really cool takes today.
Starting point is 00:06:11 But there's a line I bookmarked and it was... I also didn't put an index in the beginning of the book, so... I know. Yeah, you're doing me dirty right now as I try to flip. here. I just earlier, I was on a webinar and I spent like seven minutes trying to look for a chapter and I couldn't find it. So I just gave up. I know. I was like, I need post-it notes so I can see it from the top. But you say here, better to hear a painful truth than a comfortable lie. Yeah. And we're going to put that to the test today of like, should these people have been so honest? Could it have reeled in? Or like,
Starting point is 00:06:42 do you have to be vulnerable and say how you're feeling and be honest? And we've got some crazy stories. I think you're going to be into. Let's get it. Okay, let's dive in. This episode is presented by State Farm. After five years of this podcast, we can say one thing for certain. A smart move can change everything. Going from cheesy TV roles to brooding blockbuster main characters, smart move. Another smart move?
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Starting point is 00:08:02 It makes you burrup. Yeah, forgive me if I were... No, we cut that. I say boosted. I just did an e-news interview today, and I farted twice during the interview. I was like, it was so... You are so fucking right. I was like, I farted.
Starting point is 00:08:15 There's no way around this. I just got to own it. I farted. Did you hear it? I did, yeah. I mean, I think they're going to cut it out, but it was just like in the... Thank God it wasn't live. I was just chilling there.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I thought I could sneak one out. And it just made a noise. And I was like, look, I farted. And I'm the first person to own it. I'm like, already cried. I'm like, oh my God. I got to be honest, you know. If I fart, I will announce it because I'd much rather me announce it.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And you go, oh, gross. And then deal with it. Then someone would be like, oh, God, did somebody fart? And you have to be like, that was me. You know what I'm saying? People who call out a fart, though, like just stop. No. Everyone fart.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Do you want them to call it out? You got to get ahead of it, yeah. No. You got to own it. That's the only way out. This is crazy. I do your best to not fart, but like... It happens.
Starting point is 00:08:59 It happens, you know? So, this has been like a longstanding, running joke on the podcast now, but it took me until, like, maybe six months ago to finally, like, fart in front of my husband. And we've been together now, it'd be, like, eight years this fall. And so, like, just recently... Took you how long? Six... Just now? Six years.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Oh, my gosh. Wow, that's huge. I just don't like... I'm like first date. Like, I'm not afraid. You just got to get over it, you know? I think you gotta be goofy. You can't take life too seriously.
Starting point is 00:09:28 It's like we all fart and just air. You know, minor, like, they're not silent and they're loud and deadly. So it's like I get just the double whammy. Yeah, but think about how much stress you've been under for the last six years trying to. No stress. I just walk out of the room, shut the door. Well, good for you then. Like, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Like, he knows what I go out and do. Gotcha. And he still lies. Like, I'm like, you've heard me fart now. And he goes, no. And I'm like. Does he fart? in front of you though? No, he doesn't fart. Yeah, right. He's literally broken. He, like, doesn't fart.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I don't think he's broken. I think we're broken. Okay, this first one, coming from AITH, it's titled, Am I the Asshole for thinking about breaking my engagement because my fiancé got a matching tattoo with his girl best friend? Fuck. My fiance has a girl best friend that he's known since middle school. They've been friends for ages. And I believe him, and he tells me that there's no romance there at all. They're simply very good friends. That being said, from the start of our relationship, I couldn't help noticing that his friendship with his girl best friend
Starting point is 00:10:32 had something of an emotionally intimate feel to it. I brought it up before and he reacted defensively, saying that I'm getting something wrong and that he could never betray me in that way. I have to admit, after trying for a while, I accepted the fact and tried not to mention it again. Over time, he tried to be more mindful with boundaries, and things were okay.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Then, not too long ago, my best friend, who was a woman, and I got matching permanent anklets. They are welded jewelry that you can't take off unless you cut it. We've done it together, and I told him about it, and he thought it was cute. Apparently, shortly after that, he and his girl best friend agreed to do something that they had talked about before, which is get matching tattoos. He never mentioned anything like that to me, not even in a joking way. When he showed me his new tattoo, I started crying and asked him why he would do something like that with her.
Starting point is 00:11:28 For me, getting matching tattoos seems more intimate and permanent than getting matching jewelry. But to this, he honestly said that I did pretty much the same thing with my best friend and asked me, what makes me cry over this? For me, it just seems incredibly inappropriate because, one, this matching tattoo is with another girl, regardless of how he sees her or she sees him, if it was a family member, then yeah, okay, but not with her. Two, even if I had a male best friend, I would definitely never do such a thing while being engaged to someone else. And right now, I'm seriously considering giving him back the engagement ring because I know that every time I see that tattoo, I will feel like shit and I will resent him for it.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I do not really believe that he wants to cheat on me with his best friend because I believe that if something was ever going to happen between them, it would have happened a long time ago. But I feel very terrible about that. While he believes that I'm overreacting, my friends think I'm being valid with my feelings and that they are both way out of line to do something like that. So if I break up with him, would I be the asshole? Damn. Okay. This is got a lot of thoughts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:41 A lot of thoughts. First of all, if nothing's happened between the guy and the girl in the past, like, it's interesting because, like, sexuality is such a spectrum, you know, and especially like people nowadays where there's a lot of people who are bisexual. And so the question is, like, where's the limit for who you can get a matching tattoo with, right? Because, but I understand that if he's heterosexual and the girl that he got the matching tattoo is also heterosexual, why there could be a little bit of a thing there, but I'm like, again, she can get a matching, she's a matching jewelry or something like that? Yeah, permanent jewelry. It's not necessarily like on your body, though.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But I see where he might have been like... Yeah. But it's still... You're calling it permanent jewelry. Right, right. Well, my question is like, did he intentionally keep it a secret from his fiancee? Like, that's when it gets a little bit dicey. Do you think that...
Starting point is 00:13:30 I don't know. I mean, again, like it feels like it's deeper than the matching tattoo. It feels like the matching tattoo is a physical manifestation of maybe this deeper thing where she's had these weird feelings about him having a lady best friend. But I personally, I grew up with five sisters. And I have a lot of women who are my dearest friends. And there is zero percent anything there. And so I'm like, I don't know, the matching tattoo thing is tough.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But I'm also like, I don't know if that's a deal breaker for me because I have so many great friendships with women or any kind of people, I guess. Yeah. Like there's no question of like, is there anything weird here? So I don't know. That's a complicated one. But I think she has the right to be upset, but I don't know that I'd go so far as to say like, oh, this means marriage over. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I know I'm really torn. Unless there is something else going on between him and that girl, then that's another, like that's another story. Because the tattoo, in my opinion is that only the tattoo matters. But if it's representative of something else going on, then yes, it does matter. And I think that's kind of what feels like it's going on here. because I, you know, there's always those tropes of like, oh, it ended up being the girl that he told me not to worry about. And so I'm like, is that where you're at, where you're like, oh, I trust him and I feel like if something would have happened, it probably would have happened by now. But deep down where you're like still struggling with that.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yeah. And his lack of boundaries. Because, I mean, O.P., our writer even said it felt too emotionally intimate. There were issues with boundaries over time. to be more mindful with boundaries. Like, what were the issues with the boundaries? Her touching him while they went out and you kind of standing there watching. Like, what's the context here?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah, it's tough, man. I mean, people are really good at living double lives. It's actually insane to me. Blows my mind. Like, when I hear about people who, like, for years and years and years, like, well, even I've been in that situation where, like, somebody makes me cut off all of my friends. And then I found out they're cheating on me. And I'm like, bruh, like, what?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Or, like, I had a friend who, like, Her boyfriend was always like so like literally with me. I mean, I won't say who it was. But my friend had a boyfriend who like fucking hated me, bro. And I never did anything wrong. Like the only thing, like I paid for them both in a situation where I was paying for other people as well. Yeah. And he like resented me and was like never ever fucking pay for my girl in front of me ever again.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Like this ridiculous. And I was like, all right, dude, like calm the fuck down. It's not that deep. Like I'm not showing off. You get the next one. I'm not trying to make a move, whatever. Anyway, my point is he was constantly upset and like always side the road too. emotives. Turns out he's been cheating on her for over a year, bro. Had a whole other relationship
Starting point is 00:16:09 and a whole other life with this other woman. And what's funny is when like we had one time had a conversation, he was like, my one priority is taking care of so and so. He kept talking about how like protective he was over her and how like she's his main priority and like he's just doing a set of protection for her. Meanwhile, he's the one cheated on her for over a year. I'm like, how do you live? It was in another state. So anytime we went to this other state, he had another girlfriend. I just don't understand how people would do it, bro. Yeah, exactly. It's like they try to keep that person so close, so under their control. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:37 So it's, oh, God, it's so insane how people can do that. Yes. It's upsetting and confusing. And I just don't understand how people can have whole other lives. Like, one, what's the thrill of that? And two, like, how do you have the energy and, like, how do you not think this is going to blow up in your face at some point, you know? I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And people can get away with it for years. They've other families and literally whole kids. And it's just like, what? And so with this one, like, I don't know if anything's going on here, but like, I think if this were me and my fiance or husband, like, if my husband went out and got a matching tattoo with one of his girlfriends or any friend, for that matter, without talking to me, I'd be like, oh, like, why is it a surprise to me versus, like, I'm getting a tattoo with Cleo. Like, why are you telling me? Yeah. And it's just like it feels like there's such a, like, lack of respect. for our relationship almost, where it's like, hey, it would have been nice to know and talk about it, even though it's like, well, okay, it's his body, his tattoo. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:41 But it's just kind of it feels weird. I agree. I agree. It's tricky and nuanced, but I don't know. Again, I think it's, in my opinion personally in a relationship, the only time I'd have like a real problem with that is if it was actually something else going on that I found out. So that's the whole thing with this from like, I don't know, but I agree it's where she didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'm not boring, I swear. I'm just safe. Keep drinking that coffee over there. Well, the top comment on this one, matching tattoos with another woman while engaged is going to feel weird to most people. Doesn't mean it's cheating, but it does mean your feelings aren't crazy either.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Right. Agreed. Next one, not the asshole. Let him go unless you enjoy being the third wheel in their relationship. He's not ready for monogamy and commitment to you. Maybe. And someone comments, what makes you say he's not ready for monogamy? Because he has a close friend that is a woman.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Can someone not have a close friend that is a woman and also be monogamous? Right. And someone replied to that person goes, it's disrespectful. And so it's like, I just think it's, it's overall just a lack of communication. Like, it seems like something's missing in their relationship. Well, again, it's like, it is case by case. Like, she's vowed to be upset, but also like, I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:00 You know what I'm saying? A lot of people start asking info, what was the tattoo of? Yeah, that was my question. Because that could like make or break it too. Yeah, right, right. Like, do they have two hearts that complete when they line their hands up? O.P. does respond. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It's a simple design of an alien holding a beer bottle and raising it up to do cheers. I think that's gas. I think that's fire. What does that mean? It's good. Okay. What does gas mean? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:19:29 Okay. Well, you're. Gen Z? I think, sure. What's Gen Z? What year? What year were you? 2000. I think you're Gen Z, right? I'm gonna go for probably. I think so. Yeah. Do you know what fire means? Yeah. I'm not that old. No, that's, I think that's awesome. If my, it's hard to say, but if my partner had a matching tattoo with somebody that could potentially be attracted to them, but they were their best friends since middle school, you said? Like, I don't know, bro. I don't think it's that deep. Maybe I'm just like more secure in the sense that I'm not like overthinking everything.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Uh-huh. And that's not to say I don't have jealous tendencies where I can't be like, but like, for example, I was dating this girl once who like was super, super, super, super, super, super, super jealous. I mean, unbelievably jealous. Like anything I couldn't, anything. Again, she made me talk to, you can even say thank you to someone else. Correct. She made me cut off all my friendships, essentially, with anyone who there could ever be potential romantic connection to. connection to and I did that out of respect to her and I was doing my best to make the relationship work.
Starting point is 00:20:32 But then she would like go and like sit in someone's like sit in a guy's lap and I'd be like hey like I'd be like hey I didn't really love that. I would try to be as like gentle as possible with it. And she'd be like oh come on like he's bye. And I'm like yeah, bye. That means that part of that is being attracted to women. Well also like didn't they kind of realize the like hypocrisy of it? You would hope that. You would hope that. No over there. And again, It was even me bringing it up that was like, oh, come on, you're overreacting. And you're just trying to articulate your feelings. Yes. And I was like, I just didn't love how that felt and it feels a little bit weird. So, like, that's the kind of stuff that I don't like when it's like sitting on a lap and doing that stuff. I think there's a clear difference between like playful, like banter, for example, versus like when it's starting to cross the line like that. And I think in her justification, she was like, no, there's clearly nothing here.
Starting point is 00:21:22 So it's not a big deal. But it was definitely hypocritical. and that was a lot of the relationship. But regardless, male-female relationships or, again, any kind of relationship where there's potential for, like, romance or whatever, I think it's so nuanced and tough. So that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:21:37 It's not an absolute rule and I can't specifically say I would feel in that situation. But personally, if I were to picture it right now, I would probably be pretty chill with that. Yeah, and I think it is interesting where she's like, one, if this was with a family member, I wouldn't see an issue. Like, what if he does look at her like a sister,
Starting point is 00:21:54 like a cousin? Like my husband wanted to get matching tattoos with his female cousin Like I'm not gonna have an issue with that Totally if he decided to do that Right and so it's kind of that same concept of like I think you're coming from a place where you are feeling insecure about their relationship or he's not communicating well to you I think it's about the tattoo I think it's about deeper than that that's a bigger issue And so at the end of the day if I break up with him would I be the asshole?
Starting point is 00:22:20 I don't think so because like you're entitled to your feelings Yeah And if you're going to resent him forever because of the tattoo, then... You're doing him a favor by breaking up with him. I think you have the right to break up with him, but I don't necessarily feel like it's fair. And if I was the guy, I don't know. I don't know. It's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Do you think they can work through it? Absolutely. Okay. 100%. Maybe a little therapy? Yeah. Maybe some couples therapy can help. Some premarital counseling.
Starting point is 00:22:48 There you go. It sounds like maybe this is revealing that they do need to work through some stuff before they get married. I think of anything, they're engaged, right? Engaged. Yeah. Maybe there's a postponing. I like that. But I don't know, man. I think part of me again is like, I don't think it's that big of a deal. But then I also know like how common it is that people cheat and like have whole double lives. So I don't blame her for being upset about it and or like being insecure or paranoid.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I know. I'm trying not to be like too pessimistic and paranoid about it. Yeah. Because like I feel like I do from reading so many of these stories. I'm like, oh, he's cheating. And it's like. Yeah. But it could be innocent. But there's also plenty of times where you think that they aren't cheating and then they are. And then they are.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And it just like is like, what? But I mean, an alien holding a beer. I'm like, they just sound like two weirdos, just two friends. Like an alien. Yeah, the alien beer thing definitely put, was the nail in the coffin for me. I know. All right. But what do I know?
Starting point is 00:23:41 It's so wild. We don't have an update on this one yet. No need. No need? I want the update. We wish them best. We'll check in for part two. Yeah, that's what I want.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I'm like, where's the part two, O.P. if you're out there listening, please let me know. I mean, it's 10 months old at this point. They had to have gotten either married or not, but wishing you the best, O.P. Is O.P. original poster? Yeah. Nice. Look at that. Look at you.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Context clues. You're getting, you're catching on quick. Yeah. It kind of flew under the radar before it was removed. So maybe, maybe we'll get an update. Yeah. Okay. Moving on to this next one.
Starting point is 00:24:17 This is coming from one of my favorite Reditors. Okay. His name is Direct Caterpillar. Okay. And they just, like, find the best stories on Reddit. And so this is coming from one of theirs. Great. It's titled, My 23 Female, Boyfriend, 23 Male, thinks he is talented, but he is not.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Fuck. This sounds awful, I know. We have been dating for a year and a half, and I love him so much. We are best friends and get on great. I've always known that he was into writing music, but he never got around to singing or performing to me, which I assumed was out of shyness. Last night, me, him at about four of our friends, went to a bar to drink. There was an open mic and a guy was singing with an acoustic guitar.
Starting point is 00:25:04 We were sitting drinking and he started laughing at him. The guy was very off-key, so we all quietly giggled for like two seconds, but obviously made sure the singer didn't see us because that's rude. Right. But he loudly laughed at him and didn't applaud when he felt. finished. I thought this was extremely out of character. I'm going to raise this now or what is the point here? Big red flag. I thought this was extremely out of character as he is usually very polite and kind to everyone. We were about two rounds in at this point, so I thought maybe he was just a bit
Starting point is 00:25:37 tipsy. They then asked if anyone wanted to sing, and he enthusiastically volunteered. The previous guy, poor kid, politely offered his guitar if my boyfriend wanted it, to which he laughed in a really patronizing way and declined. What happened next is going to be hard to type out because I'm still cringing. He proceeded to acapella sort of chant slash moan and sing a song that weaved a tale of him doing ayahuasca and cutting his hair, then digging up a grave and setting up a tent. There was a grief interval where he went, yes, yes, ooh. It was like a comedy skit. Oh, God. And I honestly thought he was joking until I heard the ayahuasca part and remembered that he had showed me a poem with that line in it. Oh, God. I'm cringing because I did ayahuasca and I talk about it myself too. So I fear
Starting point is 00:26:35 that man is me. No. I don't know how you can be out of tune when it's acapella, but he managed it. He was so out of tune with himself with the air. When he was done after like five whole minutes, there was applause. Two guys in the bar looked like they were in tears from laughing. And my boyfriend sat back down and said, quote, yeah, that's how it's done. Get rid of this guy.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And smiled. Since then, he asked me if I enjoyed the performance. I said, yeah, but it was so different from what I expected. He smiled and said, yeah, it's the only thing I'm good at. I'm honestly so confused. This seems so out of character. I see him kind of in a different light now.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah. But he's perfect in every other way. But he was so cocky and almost delusional. I feel like if I tell him he was bad, he'd just say that I didn't understand his vision or something. What should I do? I think he's planning on doing it again at some point soon. And I honestly don't think I could handle
Starting point is 00:27:39 that. I don't want him to feel bad, but I also don't want to lie to him. Hmm. Well, first of all, I think everyone has their blind spots, okay? Okay. But, you know, you don't have to be talented at everything, but to be arrogant, which is arrogance is so ugly, in my opinion, all kinds of arrogance is just ugly. To be so arrogant and also be so unaware of how not good you are, to mock someone else and then go up there and make a mess of yourself and embarrass the other people. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:12 It's like, it's a huge red flag. You said in every other area, he's like good, but. Perfect. To me, that just like, I don't know, like, I don't really like mean people. And I don't like, like I said, arrogant people. Not to say I haven't been both of those things. But, you know, I think that that's just such an ick for me. Like, I was talking about the difference seen icks and irreversible icks.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Okay. Because, like, him being a bad singer can be an ick. but that doesn't mean it's like a deal breaker. But to me, if he's like mocking the guy before, doing terribly and then talking about how great he was and like bragging about it, that to me is an irreversible ick where I'm like, I don't know if we can bounce back from this one. But I don't know. What do you think? Yeah, no, I agree. And having that kind of laid out like ick versus irreversible ick, like when it's beyond just like a goofy hobby that like I don't understand where no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:29:03 This is actually like a personality flaw. Like you kind of lack character because you're just genuinely an asshole. Uh-huh. And it's like, no, I honestly think his bad performance aside, I think just how shitty he was to the other people, like, that's just like enough. I was going to say, yeah, I don't even care about the bad performance. Like, that's one thing, you know, but like you said, him being like rude about it. And even the guitar is trying to help him after that and him be like, nah, I don't need your help. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:36 That just, it sounds like he's... I know, someone was just trying to be so nice. I know. It sounds like he's been doing a good job of hiding and suppressing that side of him, and you kind of saw a glimpse of it. Yeah. When people show you who they are, believe them, you know, sometimes people don't see that side to people until like, well, well, well into their relationship with them.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And people are good at hiding those parts of themselves. But like, like, you just saw like a sneak peek. I think of maybe a deeper issue, which is like a mean, a mean spirit that I don't, I don't fuck with at all. But look, maybe he was just had too much to drink. Not to say that that excuses anything. Yeah. I'm just saying, like, people aren't their best selves when they do that.
Starting point is 00:30:15 So there's a little bit of grace there. In my opinion, I think if every other area of your relationship with this guy is great, then maybe take this as like flag it. Maybe he's on probation right now. Maybe it's a little bit like we're going to see how it goes. Okay. I don't know that this is a deal breaker, but it's definitely not a good look. And it's not a good sign.
Starting point is 00:30:34 So what do I know? I'm with you. I think it would be really hard though, given, and it's so hard when you're with someone and like they're an artist or their, you know, whatever, their niche hobby is or passion. And it's like, it's so subjective. But like you're not a fan of it. Yeah. And it's like, how do you then go through life with this person if they did stay together? And he's like, come to my open mic night. And you're just like, huh. Sounds like he's not really taking this super seriously. It's more just like a no? I mean, for him to say this is the one thing I'm good at. That's embarrassing, bro. I'm like, and then it's like, but our, like, I don't know, maybe we aren't his target audience. Maybe we're not understanding it, but it does genuinely sound terrible. Yeah, no, I think, I think dump this loser, go find someone who will get matching tattoos with their bestie. Alien tattoos, I think that sounds like that guy's a lot cooler than this guy, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Would you be honest with him and be like, you're not very good? Fuck, it's hard to say that because when it's uninvited or unwelcome, it's hard to know where it's your place. If you were to ask, I would be like, I think, because here's the thing, like, I was just talking about this earlier, but like Ed Shearin, when he first started out, it was, like, absolutely terrible. Like, if you hear his demo from, like, when he was, like, 15, it's, like the worst singing I've ever heard. Like, horrific. And now he sells out stadiums and is, like, a world-class artist. So it's hard to say, kind of that he can't get. get better. And so like there's there's probably a
Starting point is 00:32:04 constructive way to tell him like, I think there could be worked done on this. And if it's something you're passionate about, there are ways to get better. But I think there's a way to tell someone the truth that doesn't crush their spirit, you know? Yeah. But maybe he needs to be crushed and he needs to be humble.
Starting point is 00:32:22 You're like a fucking sour patch kid. You're like, first they're sour, then you're like the flip. You're like, you're so sweet. And then all of a sudden you're like, buddy fucking sucks. There's real. There's room for all. it's it's so interesting music is one of those careers too because like as a musician I'm sure you get this a lot whether it's songs you've written or like you send a demo to someone but like seeing my
Starting point is 00:32:42 husband in music it's like there's such these amazing songs that will never see the light a day because like someone else just doesn't see the value in it it's like oh my it's like oh but so yeah we were just talking about that today or yesterday me and my friend I was showing her a bunch of my old stuff and she's like these are amazing and I was like hearing it again I was like yeah you know these are good like someone on my team or whatever, like didn't like it. And so just never got to see the light of day. It is so subjective. But there's also such thing as I think objectively bad things.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I mean, if someone's like off pitch, that's pretty objective. You know, there's no taste thing. But then there's also artists that I think their voice is not very good and people really liked it. And vice versa. I know. I don't think the average person realizes because like I sure didn't before being with someone who's like in that world. there's so much technology that like can make an artist that doesn't have the strongest vocals
Starting point is 00:33:34 sound amazing like melodine and like stuff like that where I'm just like literally if they're off key or like sing the note wrong it'll just like it can put them there and if they're super bad like then it starts to sound too fakey but it's just crazy to me yeah there's like a certain amount where they can be off tune that like you can hear the auto tune
Starting point is 00:33:53 you know what I'm saying but so that's like if they're within like 30% accurate of the note then you can get away with it pretty well. But yeah, I mean, ultimately, like some artists, their recorded music is what they're known for, and some artists are live music. Some both are great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Like, Siena Spiro, I don't know if you know her. She's up and coming. She's one of the greatest voices I've ever heard in my life. And, like, hearing her live is one of the best things I've ever experienced. But then there's other artists I won't mention who, like, the recording sounds really great. And then I've seen them live and I'm like, ooh, it's not really there. But also there's a lot of artists that even when they are live,
Starting point is 00:34:26 they're still using auto tune. stuff like that or they're pretending to sing. And so there's a lot of faking that happens with it. So you can get away with a lot. In a day and age of AI, although I don't endorse using AI at all in music and stuff. It's insane. Yeah. I mean, dude, there was one artist I felt for recently.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Is it the stick figure song? I don't know. I don't think stick figures. Is there one you're talking about? Okay, so you tell your story. Well, basically, there was this one song that I thought was really fucking great. I should say I added it to my playlist. And then I saw TikTok where someone was like, this artist is completely AI.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I was like, no way. And there was another time I was in an Uber and they were playing this music. And I specifically was like, man, there's so much soul in this artist. Like, fuck, there's so much soul. I got to find them. And I couldn't find him anywhere. And I asked the guy for a YouTube video. And it was like AI renditions of like old classics or whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And it was completely fake voices. And I was like actually so deeply disturbed. Yeah. Now I think I'm better at spotting the AI stuff. Yeah. But what was your story? It's hard. So there's a song that just went super viral on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:35:27 TikTok and people were like, this is the best song I've ever heard. Stick figures? Stick figures. And I saved the actual song. And they stole every single lyric but just did like a dance version of it. And stick figures came across it and he's like, they didn't reach out. They didn't credit me from a lawsuit standpoint, like with copyright and publishing rights and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Like insane. Oh, yeah. But like it's just someone prompting an AI thing. and like they then stole this song and it's just like, ugh. But I think now like because he found it, they've worked it out where like it's either like give me credit and give me rights to the song otherwise like you're done. Totally. So but it's still, it's just like it's messed up. There was somebody that made a video about this, that artist I was mentioning earlier.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And she was like, it's really frustrating as somebody who makes music like when it feels like they're stealing all this like attention and getting all these accolades for music that's not even real. And one of the comments was, I'd rather listen to their good AI music than your shitty, real music. So I'm going to stick to listening to them. And I was like, oh, God, we're cooked, bro. But it's just such a weird time. It's so unprecedented, you know. I'm curious to see where it goes. I have a feeling we're going to start to swing as a society toward, you know, I think we had the boom of technology.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And we're still in that boom of technology. but I think we're going to start to see a swing into a lot more real, like people getting flipflones again and people doing more real world activities. And I'm hoping that we start to step away from this where technology is a great tool and a servant. But it's we realize that we're missing our real lives. Yeah. I know that's not what we were talking about at all. No, no, no. But I think that that human connection, it's, it definitely like needs to come back.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Like the village is something we always talk about on the show where it's like we need the village again. Absolutely. Back to this one, though. Uh-huh. The top comment is, I think at the very least, you should tell him that. he was being a jerk towards the guitar player. If he's going to make a habit of going to open mics, then he's going to need to learn to make nice with the other musicians.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Duh. Someone responds, speaking as a musician, if you don't think you suck, you probably suck. That's bars. Someone else says he's not right in the head. Bars or when you like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:37:43 I was kidding. You might have to keep going. I need like a Gen Z. Oh, please. Lingo. Am I Gen Z? Yeah. I think millennials ended 1996.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Oh, is it, is Gen Z next? Yeah. Then you have Gen Z. Yeah, you're not Alpha. As long as I'm not Alpha. No, I'll respect to Alpha. Alpha's the future. I, are you a silent screamer?
Starting point is 00:38:05 What the hell does that mean? Okay, good. Apparently it's a Gen Z thing, so I figured you'd know. Silent Screamer? Yeah, my friend Lauren, she's firmly a millennial, but like, it's like, it's this Gen Z thing where it's like you get excited, but you don't say anything. You just go. Ah, ew.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And silent scream. Ew. No. That was my reaction. It scared me. I don't fuck with that at all. I was like, are you okay? I didn't know what was happening when she did it.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Nah. There's another comment here that said, he's not right in the head. There's no way to stand in front of a crowd and perform and get the vibe 100% wrong. Also, please record landscape, please, and post. Pretty please. I'll pay $15 for this.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'd pay more than that. I would literally, I'd probably pay $100. Maybe two to see this. Yeah. The funny thing is that I find that the most, successful and most talented people are the most supportive of other artists and the most kind, not all the time, but a lot of the time. No, a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah. It's just funny that like, who are you to be shitting on this guy when you can't even hold a tune? Yeah. No, that's one thing I do love about, like, going to Nashville and going to the writers' rounds. Yeah. And like hearing where they're-supportive and stuff. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:40:08 called R slash marriage. Okay. And it's titled, My husband told me he was writing a poem for me. It wasn't a poem. I accidentally read something. My husband wrote about me, and now I don't know how to feel. Last year he told me he was writing a poem for me. He writes a lot in notion, and recently I saw a page with my name on it. I genuinely thought it would finally be the poem he once mentioned. I know I shouldn't have opened it, and I already feel guilty about invading his privacy, but I did it. What I found was not a poem. Nervous.
Starting point is 00:40:42 There were pages of negative things about me and our marriage. He called me names like, moron, and even compared me to a mohale ki-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a who just gossips. He wrote down every small thing I've ever said or done that upset him, even harmless discussions that I thought were normal between partners. For example, I once made a neutral comment about his friends during a healthy discussion, and he wrote about that, too, as proof that I'm negative. He also wrote about how much he is struggling in the marriage,
Starting point is 00:41:19 how I don't appreciate him, and included criticism about my family too. I think what hurts most is not that he's unhappy sometimes. I know marriages are hard, but that he seems to see me as this stupid, negative, annoying person. I never wanted my partner to secretly view me with contempt. Now, I don't know how to act around him because I've seen thoughts I probably never was supposed to see.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I feel embarrassed, hurt, and honestly, heartbroken. A part of me wants to confront him, and a part of me feels like I can never unsee this, and will never feel the same around him again. Has anyone ever gone through something similar? Were these just private venting thoughts? Or should I take this as how he truly sees me? That's tough.
Starting point is 00:42:02 That's tough. I mean, I think it can be healthy to, like, vent in, like, a journal or whatnot. And, like, sometimes you'll have feelings towards someone that are, like, temporary or that are, I don't know, like, sometimes be annoyed by somebody. And I'll just, like, get it all out. And then after I get it out, I'm like, okay, I just was, like, frustrated about this other thing. thing and they happen to be the victim of my frustration in that moment, but it's not like an active thing. So I think that there's definitely room and space for that. She shouldn't have read
Starting point is 00:42:29 his journal or his private stuff. But I think, again, if that becomes chronic, if that's like how he always feels about her, then why would they be together? I know. That's my like, my question where I'm like, has there never been an inkling? Because I think like this is obviously a marriage, but I think this happens with friendships too where you find out a friend said something about you and it's like yeah how do you come back from that like i think you know you being in the public sphere like people are going to talk and it's really hard when then you come across that negative stuff and it's like it's not meant for you to come across like was it there venting in that moment or like whatever it is but it's still it's still hurtful yeah of course and so it's like how do you deal with it when you do find
Starting point is 00:43:15 it even if those were his like journal thoughts. Right. But like, is there still truth to it? Right. It's just like, I'm all over the place. I'm like, how do you go from here? Yeah, no, I hear you.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And you can't also unsee it, you know? And then it's like in the back of your head when you're. This would shatter me. Yeah, I think it might be over. I don't know, man. I think, like I said, even though it is temporary, maybe the feelings that he has, once that, yeah, once the worms are out of the jar, is that what they say? Can?
Starting point is 00:43:43 Yes. Once the worms are out of the can, you know, you can't really put them back in. And, uh, I'm big. analogy guy over here. But you just you fit in so well here because I botch every saying. Yeah. I forget. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I was doing a show, a thing at the Huntington Beach Barnes & Noble yesterday for my book. And I finished this like really emotional song about like suicide and not not taking your life and stuff. And I said, don't underestimate. I'm going to butcher it again. But I said don't underestimate the absence your hole would leave, which is not the right way to say it. It's meaning like don't underestimate the whole your absence would leave. I think you said it right. The absence your whole would leave. It didn't, it didn't work.
Starting point is 00:44:28 It was so. Don't underestimate the absence. Your whole. Your whole would leave. Yeah. It sounds really, really wrong. But I totally understand it. And this is in front of 600 people. I was like, oh my God, bro. This was supposed to be in like an emotional moment. And now I've just made it incredibly awkward. So I'm looking forward to that being on my for you page. But anyways, we were saying worms. Oh yeah, once that stuff's like, it's really hard to bounce back from that, I think. And, you know, again, he can say it was just temporary, but I don't know if I was her. I'd be, I'd be pretty upset. I know. I would too. Like, it would crush me to hear this from my partner where it's like, I wish you just would have, like, talked to me about this. And, like, I've gone through something similar with a friend where she, like, ignored me for a couple months and, like, wouldn't tell me what was wrong. And I was, I was, like, very blindsided by, like, the fact there was even an issue. Yeah. And she was like, I just need space to, like, you know, form my thoughts, whatever. And to me, that felt like even more of a punishment.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And I took it as a punishment, right? Because I'm like, I don't even understand what the issue is. And when we ended up reconnecting, she was like, you know, I just feel like a lot of times, like you're just, you're constantly negative. And I'm like, well, I feel like I thought we had a friendship where we would vent to each other. Like, you know, you vent to me about work all the time. Right. If that's not, you know, the space that we are creating for each other, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I'll reserve my venting where I'm negative for other people. But like, I wish you just would have communicated with me that there was an issue. Yeah. And so. It's a tough one. It's so tough. And now imagine, like, your partner, like someone you literally committed to being with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Well, because that's the thing. Like, there's some people where, like, I have opinions or thoughts or whatever. And it's just, like, it doesn't feel appropriate to, like, you know, bring it up, you know? But then, yeah, like you said, when it's your partner, especially like you're married, like, it's tough. But then it's also like, I don't know if I was the guy, like, it's hard to like tell someone you think these things about them, you know, like, but the question isn't, should he have brought them up? My question is, if he really thinks all these things, should they even stay together? And it's like, so I don't know, it's tough
Starting point is 00:46:34 because you don't want to hurt their feelings and stuff. Because some of this is like, subjective stuff. It's one thing when it's like, hey, I don't like when you don't do the dishes or I don't like when this happens or the way you talk to me in this way. that's different. That's worth a discussion. But if you're just like, this person's an idiot and they're so fucking stupid and like, why are you with them if that's what you feel about them? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:52 You're allowed to have feelings and frustrations. And I think when you get in any kind of long term partnership with anybody and of any kind, there's going to be naturally ways in which you guys get on each other's nerves and there's like things you get upset about or annoyed by. Like that's totally natural. But it sounds like this guy might never be satisfied. I don't know. It is interesting.
Starting point is 00:47:10 The top comment really picks. on like what you're saying too. Look, everyone deserves a safe space to vent and air out their feelings, emotions and frustrations, but not once in my 17 years of marriage have I ever, even privately belittled my wife with names like moron, just putting that out there. Yeah, absolutely agree. I have also never belittle my wife with words like moron. I don't have a wife, but yes. No, but like it's like even like your friends where it's just like I think sometimes like you wake up and you're like, God, I'm friends with my biggest hater. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And it's just like, I can't even imagine saying, oh my God, my friend is such a fucking moron. Yeah. Like, no. Like, it's just so disrespectful. And it's like, that doesn't feel like love. 100%. So. I fully agree.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Again, I get being frustrated, though, because I haven't frustrated with my friends. But it's very temporary, you know what I'm saying? Like, you work through it and then you move on versus like if you're constantly feeling that way. I mean, there's a lot of people who are, like, secretly in their heart, very, very evil and mean and unkind. And they can hide it for a while, but eventually it kind of comes out, like, in this scenario where she's now finding this stuff on his computer. It's so wild to me how different people can be in their heart versus what they perform and what they present. Yeah. And, like, you know, again, some people are really good at performing and keeping it hidden.
Starting point is 00:48:34 But then, you know, they say, like, if you squeeze a lemon, they're going to get lemon juice, right? like you're not going to get apple juice if you squeeze a lemon and ultimately the point is that whatever is on the inside is what comes out when someone gets squeezed and so if this person has hatred in their heart then this person squeezing them that's what's going to come out you know what I'm saying so like you can hide it but like ultimately you can't fake you are forever is basically what I'm saying and a lot of people in their heart are really not great people I literally just like yes I need to roll the tapes I'm going to listen to it again when Jenna sends me in the edit, but like
Starting point is 00:49:10 whatever you squeeze is what you're going to and I'm like, okay Confucius. I think I said, I don't know how I said it, but yeah. It was perfect. No, it's just like it makes total sense because it's like you can hide so much under a mask but like when it comes down to it's like when you boil it all out like who is that person at their core
Starting point is 00:49:28 and how ugly are they or how kind are they or whatever. Totally. Yeah, no, it made total sense. And it's also malleable. I think that, you know, people can change. I mean, one of the things I talk about in Rookie is that the hard work is the hard work. And it's a lot like gardening, right? You have to constantly be tending to, you know, uprooting the weeds and planting the right seeds and stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And the more you dwell on negative thoughts, like this guy, it seems like he's dwelling on a lot of negative things, the more kind of darkens your heart. And then the more bitter and sour and resentful you are. Yeah. But I think if you practice more, again, venting is one thing. If in general you practice more kind, considerate, loving, forgiving thoughts, then eventually that kind of conditions your heart into maybe a more kind heart, you know. It comes down to like, you have a choice until you don't. And if you continue to dwell on negative things and continue to look at all the bad things
Starting point is 00:50:24 and people and all the things you hate about them, like eventually you can't help but hate people. But if you continue to choose like kind and considerate loving thoughts toward people, it softens your heart. and then it becomes a lot easier to be loving towards people. But I don't really know the point of what I'm saying right now. No, I really appreciate it. I think it is an important kind of thing to remember because, like, our brains, everything's so connected. And it's like if you continue to think a certain thought, like you're reinforcing that.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah, it's like I always say like your brain is like a muscle and everyone's like your brain's not a muscle. It's like, duh. Okay, yeah, duh, I know that. But it is in the sense where it's like your brain is constantly pruning. And if you don't use it, it'll prune it away. If you use it, it strengthens that neural pathway. And so if you think bad thoughts about yourself or if you're, you know, in a bad headspace, you're like confirming that in your brain that like this is normal.
Starting point is 00:51:18 This is where I should be. Totally. That becomes stronger. Absolutely. And I was in a little shop of horrors in New York. Yeah. And, you know, it's like 90 pages of script to memorize and all that stuff. You know, in rehearsals, you'll like get a note.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And they'll be like, oh, this line is not what you thought it was. And so the way to remember that line is to go back and correct that line in your head over and over and over again until it sticks. And then you show up at rehearsal and you just open your mouth and it comes out naturally. Like you don't have to think about it. Your subconscious just knows, right? Because your brain, you've wired that pathway in your brain so many times that naturally it comes out. And so it's interesting because learning those lines taught me so much about my brain and that the things I repeat and continue to really implement into my brain. become the automatic script that that runs my thoughts in my life.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah. And so, it's so important. This deep on too on taste. No. Well, now I'm going to, I had a story I was going to read,
Starting point is 00:52:14 but I actually think this one I had like, it was a few tabs down, but I think where we're at right now, I actually think this train of thought would really lend itself to this story. And it is a little bit of a deeper one. It's coming from R slash true off my chest. But I think you're like really, especially knowing what you've written in this book,
Starting point is 00:52:33 to have some good takes on it. You're no longer young people. You're just people. And people are either productive or dead weight. It's my first day of work and I need to make a big impression. Were you just checking me out? No. It's too bad.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I see at least 15 ladies I need to talk to you before my beta block wears off. My coworkers don't take me seriously. It's not a human. It's just a piece of meat. Someone bring a gurney. So this next one, true off my chest, titled, I keep mourning the person I could have been. I have spent a significant portion of my life feeling emotionally insecure in the presence of
Starting point is 00:53:18 others. Even when someone shows kindness towards me, a part of me anticipates the moment that they will change, abandon, replace, humiliate, or cease to care for me. Consequently, I tend to overanalyze every interaction. Minor exchanges linger in my thoughts for years, a fleeting glance a compliment, an act of rejection, being overlooked, or someone opting for another person over me, my mind assigns profound emotional significance to events that others would likely swiftly forget. I find myself in constant comparison with other women, not just occasionally, but incessantly. I scrutinize their appearance, personality, relationships, the attention they receive, their popularity, how loved they appear, and their innate confidence.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I evaluate myself against all these factors, and I nearly always feel inadequate. For years, I've held the belief that if I were more attractive, more lovable, more engaging, less emotional, or less damaged, then people would ultimately choose to stay. Even when someone expresses care for me, I find it challenging to fully accept it because deep down I anticipate rejection more than acceptance. I often presume that people secretly dislike me, tolerate my presence, feel pity for me, or will eventually leave once they truly understand who I am. I obsessively replay painful memories, feelings of embarrassment, bullying, rejection,
Starting point is 00:54:49 awkward encounters, exclusion, and a sense of being unwanted. My mind revisits these experiences repeatedly, as if they are occurring in the present moment. I form deep emotional attachments, even when little has transpired between myself and the other individual. Sometimes the attachment is not solely about the person themselves, but rather what they symbolize for me, emotionally validation, being chosen, being acknowledged, and feeling sufficient. When I observe someone that they have selected in place of me or someone who possesses qualities I perceive as lacking in myself, it can evoke intense feelings of jealousy, sadness and comparison. I long for deep love, reassurance, safety, consistency, and emotional intimacy.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Yet, I find it hard to fully trust it when it does come my way. This likely leaves me feeling emotionally drained, as my mind is constantly on the lookout for signs of rejection, abandonment, or comparison. I don't believe I hate myself because I was born with that feeling. I think I developed it over time through ongoing emotional pain, comparison, rejection, loneliness, bullying and feeling invisible. Eventually, those experiences shifted from being events that happened to me to becoming evidence of my identity. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah. No, I think that's huge. And I can definitely relate to a lot of what she said. And I think that, damn, you know, I think it's interesting because it's not to say that you can't still point to other people and blame people for certain things. But I found that I have just as much as I'm worried. about people scrutinizing me, I'm scrutinizing myself, or I'm beating at myself, or I'm not showing myself compassion. And when that started to shift for me, when I started to show myself compassion and
Starting point is 00:56:38 grace and be kinder to myself, then I stopped needing it so much from other people. It's so interesting with our identities, you know, and we place them in the fickle, fleeting opinions of others. Like, for example, if your worth isn't how you look, then good luck, because you change every day, you know, and there's some days you're going to feel better, sometimes you're not going to feel as good, and you cannot be at the mercy of the ebbs and flows of how you look, right? Yeah. You can obviously seek and yearn for acceptance and friendship and connection, but you also cannot need it in a way that when you don't get it,
Starting point is 00:57:11 it's the end of the world and you take it personally, you know? And I think being somebody who has dealt with a lot of public opinions that shift so frequently, I've learned that I can't need the approval of others to feel approved. I can't need the adoration of others to feel loved or, you know what I'm saying? And so it's easier said than done and it's quite a process. But I think it starts with you and it starts with how you treat yourself. And when I feel like I love myself and I have at least a couple friends that also love me, then I don't need a billion people to love me because I already feel loved.
Starting point is 00:57:45 When I don't believe that I'm lovable, when I don't even love myself, then I'm constantly trying to find others to overcorrect that. And the reality is I'm actually maybe a good thing that she's not getting this approval and adoration that she wants because it's teaching her that she can't rely on it. You know what I'm saying? I know. That's maybe backwards and that sounds maybe fucked up. No.
Starting point is 00:58:02 And I do think that like, I mean, there's so many like moments in your book that I've dog gear that kind of fit this story. But I agree where it's like you can't rely on others. Like you do need to be self-sufficient in yourself love because people can be fickle or, you know, you just you need that in a drive. And it's hard to get there. Everyone deals with insecurity. Everyone deals with comparison and feeling like crap.
Starting point is 00:58:28 No one feels great about themselves 100% of the time. And so for this person, I'm like, I think you should 100% go to therapy and start looking more within and like building upon yourself because you do deserve happiness. You do deserve love and everything, you know, they're saying in this. But I think also opening up to someone else can be so healing and let you get. to that point of self-love to then where you're you're practicing gratitude for what you do have and how you look and how you're able to move your body and what talents you have because just practicing gratitude alone and again that muscle memory can be so life-changing and like you have here vulnerability
Starting point is 00:59:09 is almost almost always met with vulnerability yeah and it's so true like this person has all these thoughts but like doesn't mention you know opening up they're more they're more like if anyone knew me, they would run away. But for me, one of my best friends were friends, because literally the first night I met her, I opened up and just shared about how, like, messed up my family is and like where I came from. And she was like, I'd never had anyone be so real. And like, everyone's always trying to put on this perfect front and, you know, make themselves look better. And it's like, no, no, no, you were so vulnerable. And she used that word vulnerable. And it's like, open up.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Like, you never know who is going to meet you and how much better you could be for it. Totally. You know, I think being able to be vulnerable on talking through that stuff and like her feelings are so valid. And I think that a lot of the issue we have today is a hyper obsession with ourselves. So it's all about is this person liking me? Does this person think I'm cool? Do they approve of me?
Starting point is 01:00:15 And it's so funny because my friend was calling me the other day. She was going on a first date. And she was like, I don't know. All these thoughts are coming. up like, what if he doesn't like me? What if this? I'm like, what if you don't like him? Yeah. Like, what if instead of looking at it like, am I going to do well in this audition, you're going into it being like, do I even like this person and being curious about them and less about you? And if both parties are curious about the other person, that's beautiful and that's where
Starting point is 01:00:37 relationship can start. But if you're going into it, trying to prove that you're worthy of love or trying to whatever, I think you're focused on the wrong thing. And that's not to say we shouldn't again take care of ourselves. That's not to say we shouldn't look after ourselves and that we're not important. I think that we sometimes get too carried away with ourselves and we're constantly looking at ourselves. That's when we're so depressed and anxious. But like go give a sandwich to a homeless person and help remember what life's really about. Life's not about being liked by everybody or feeling cool or popular or included or special. Like yes, we're each individually special and also there's eight billion people that are special. Yeah. And when you go and you do
Starting point is 01:01:16 things that aren't about you and you serve and you just reframe what's important in life. And I think the cure to a lot of our anxiety is community and service and remembering that we are a part of a larger hole. And it's both very deep and also not that deep. Yeah. No, I 100% agree with you. And like there was a video I saw recently and they were talking about like insecurity. And they're like, insecurity is essentially like thinking too much of yourself and it's very like selfish and almost like narcissistic in a way because it's like no one's thinking about you that much yeah like no one the best way like literally it's like no one's liberating way no one cares that much so it's like you're your own worst critic you're your own worst
Starting point is 01:01:59 enemy in a lot of sense and it's just like stop being so hard on yourself like and a lot of and a lot of times people are judging themselves not based on what other people are thinking but what they think other people are thinking yeah and so they're punishing themselves of these thoughts, presuming that other people are thinking it when so often they're not. I mean, obviously, it's different when if you, like, read a comment online about yourself or whatever, like, that's maybe different. But most of the time, the things we torture ourselves with aren't even accurate to what people are really thinking. I know. And there's multiple studies that show that. Yeah. There's so many studies. There's like two studies that come to mind where it's like
Starting point is 01:02:32 our ability to predict what other people are thinking about ourselves is so wrong. You're so off base and actually being able to predict what people are thinking about you. Right. And then there's another study. It's called like the liking gap. Okay. And it's like if someone were to ask you like, hey Josh, like how much do you think Morgan likes you? And you'd be like, I don't know, like 20%. She doesn't like me that much. And they were to ask me like, how much do you like Josh? It'd be like 90%. He's so cool. What the hell? What's the 10% about? What did I do? I don't know. Do I smell? No. Was it because I farted earlier? It was. You tried to, I didn't hear it though. You didn't mention it. But it's just like an example where it's just like we're so off in.
Starting point is 01:03:11 how much we value ourselves. Right. People's opinions are so fluctuating. You cannot be at the mercy of how people feel in any given moment to your worth. Your worth can't be dependent on that. And obviously easier said than done, but I've actually been thankful for being at the center of a lot of hatred and or people disliking me so much, whether they dislike my art or they dislike me, even though they don't know me, they dislike the idea of me.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah. Because it's forced me to have no other option, but to not identify with people's opinions of me. And obviously, everyone wants to have community and, like, basic friendship. And those things are crucial. But sometimes in the rejection, you learn that you don't need their acceptance in order to feel valuable. Yeah. No, I think, you know, you said, like, there's 8 billion people out there. Like, you can find your people.
Starting point is 01:04:07 You can find the ones that will see you and won't run at your, your insecurities. And if there's people out there that talk ill of you or whatever or don't know you, it's like they don't matter. And you talk about it in your book and you're like, I went from like having the worst week of my life to then like you were in the hospital, basically being told you had like 12 hours to live. And it's like what was happening online, it's just like that was so irrelevant when your life literally ended up being on the line. 100%. It's like it just proves how fickle and stupid some of the noise can be. And like, like, no, this is what really is important.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Absolutely. And, you know, it's interesting, too, because years before that, I, you know, I was in San Diego and there was this, like, rumor being spread around me that wasn't true. And it was really upsetting. And, like, my friends, like, didn't believe me. The rumor wasn't of anything immoral. It was more embarrassing. But it still wasn't true.
Starting point is 01:05:03 And so I remember there was this time where, like, for a month, like, every day I would see the friend. So I heard a rumor, and I'd be like, it's not true. And they'd be like, be honest. And I'd be like, dude, like whatever. And so no one believed me. And then I had one friend left that I was like, if she believed, I, as long as I have her, then I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And then she called me that night and said, hey, I heard this rumor about you. And I was like, it's not true. And she didn't believe me. And I remember crying myself to sleep being like, I guess I don't have any friends that like really believe me or see me or whatever. So I cried myself to sleep. And then I woke up to a phone call from my manager saying, hey, you have to move to L.A. today.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And so my whole life changed and I moved to L.A. And I, like, I found a bunch of more friends. And then some of them betrayed me. and some of them I couldn't trust and I felt like, oh, man, maybe I can't trust anyone. And over time, you know, I've, I now have like these incredible lifetime friends that, that maybe took a little bit more time to find and to really establish connection with. But, you know, I've gone through cycles of like feeling like I can't trust anyone, feeling like I have no friends, being alone, living in my car, being completely isolated.
Starting point is 01:06:01 And, you know, I think that that sometimes that's the natural cycle in life. But like I said, it made me get to a point where I no longer needed the acceptance of others in order to feel acceptable in order to feel loved. And so I'm in a much healthier place now, but if anyone's going through a time where they feel like no one gets them or they feel like they're alone, you're not alone and there are people out there that you're going to love and make so many memories with. And though this season might be difficult, it's not forever. It's just a season. Absolutely. Or whatever. Mike drop. No, Mike drop. Absolutely. You mentioned something that I want to move on to with this next story, which you have an organization that you started with a friend.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Yes. Sammy Sundays. Sammy Sundays. Yeah. Which, can you tell everyone what your organization is about? Yeah, so Sammy Sundays started with me and my friend Rita, both feeling like we wanted to help the homeless community, specifically in L.A. And, you know, the main thing we hear from the unhoused is that the hardest part about being homeless is not hunger. It's being ignored.
Starting point is 01:07:00 It's being treated like they don't exist. It's a lack of belonging. And so we kind of looked at sandwiches and care packages. though they are vital for survival, they're a vehicle for connection. And so we started giving out 300 sandwiches and 100 care packages to the unhoused in L.A. every week. And that was a way for us to build community. And there'd be people there who said the last time they ate was a week ago and we gave them a sandwich. And they have no friends.
Starting point is 01:07:27 The only people they talk to is us. One person said, the only friends I have are you, Rita, and Jesus. And this guy also called us at like three in the morning. He had like a meth relapse. So it's beyond just like seeing them once a week on Sundays. It's like we're now like doing life with these people. And like again, they'll call us in a moment of crisis. And maybe we're the last person they, the only person they have to reach out to.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Yeah. And so yeah, we started that. Right now we're pivoting and we're trying to figure out how to grow it on mass scale. But, you know, for like over 150 weeks, we were every single week essentially. So yeah. It's remarkable and so needed. Thanks. It's a really important organization.
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Starting point is 01:08:49 So this is coming from Am I the Asshole. It's titled, Am I the Asshole for telling a volunteer that they can either serve LGBTQ children or leave the organization. This is a throwaway so it doesn't get traced back to our organization and make drama in our community. I run a summer camp for kids with a specific medical disorder. I'm the camp director. Because of genetics, many of our community have familial relationships. The organization is completely run by volunteers, including myself. I don't have the medical needs of the camp, but over the years of working in it, I've been accepted by the community.
Starting point is 01:09:28 This past year, one of our longtime campers, teenager, came out as bisexual. One of our other volunteer cabin counselors who has been with the organization since before I started working with the camp has said that they don't feel comfortable with that and has asked that this child not be placed in their cabin. I told the volunteer that their job was to love, care for, and support the kids.
Starting point is 01:09:54 If the child's bisexuality got in the way of it, then I wouldn't be needing them as a volunteer at the camp at all. I told them that they didn't need to a volunteer. agree with every life decision the kids made or even openly support the team about their sexuality. If they wanted to, they could just not say anything about it. They're a volunteer and I can't police their beliefs, but not only was it not reasonable for the counselor to make that request, but it also made me question if they were suited to take care of and support any kids at all. I need cabin counselors who love the campers unconditionally. As a side note, our camp is so small in
Starting point is 01:10:31 numbers that even if this person weren't the child's cabin counselor, they would interact with that child. Other people in the organization told me that we need the volunteers and I was too harsh. It wasn't that big of a deal to just deal and just put the counselor with a different cabin. Yeah, we always need volunteers, but we need the right volunteers. And this makes me think they aren't the right volunteer. Correct. Some parents and former campers got wind of it, probably from the volunteer, and the volunteer. and they have told me that this volunteer has been a part of the camp family for a long time, longer than me,
Starting point is 01:11:07 and I overstep my authority. Did I overreact? Nope. Am I on a power trip? Now that I've heard the feedback, I'm wondering if maybe it was too much. They've been a good counselor in the past. I think I might be the asshole because I was kind of giving an ultimatum that could be unreasonable. No, you're not the asshole.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I don't care how much time you serve. I don't care if you bend over backwards and break your back to help people. If you don't have love in your heart, then I don't want your help, to be honest. There's plenty of people who can help. And I think that you're doing more damage than you are good. And I think that we live in this weird age where people think that being right is more important than being loving. And I say right in quotation marks. Because in her mind, she's like, doing the right thing is by not accepting this child.
Starting point is 01:11:56 And I'm like, okay, so I'm assuming that they maybe have this belief based on some religious, who knows why they have this belief. But do you really think that, you know, I mean, we don't have to get into this. It's a whole thing. But I just can't believe that people will like kick out their kids for being gay because they think it's the loving thing to do. I'm like, it just, it blows my mind and it makes me so deeply upset. and I think that that Camp counselor has every right to kick out that person for not living their child. No questions asked for me.
Starting point is 01:12:34 I completely agree. I think they said it best where it's this line, but it made me question if they were suited to take care of and support any of the kids at all. Right. I completely agree. It's like insert X, insert Y. It's like if that is going to dictate whether you help that child or support them or not, you're not right. for the camp. And I think something that you've really kind of openly talked about because you're very open about, you know, faith and finding faith. And I listened to your episode with Zach Sang.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Yeah. And you're just like, like that hatred or that inability to be open and loving is like not what Jesus would want. Correct. And so I think it's just like, it's very interesting in the way that like, especially in today's times, people will just weaponize their beliefs. And it's like, Do you really think that's what the higher power would want? Yeah, they're judgmental and they're hateful in the name of love. To claim to know and serve a God of love and then turn around and be hateful and judgmental is almost worse off. You know, that's what I believe when it says don't take the Lord's name in vain and sort of try to bear the name of God or say that you belong to God or that you love and serve God. It says you cannot claim to love God and then hate his children, right?
Starting point is 01:13:53 And it just does not add up, you know. And I think that I'd much rather somebody have no faith at all and be loving, kind, considerate, compassionate, patient, caring, then have somebody who claims to know the right beliefs, quote unquote, and yet has no love in their heart at all. You know. And again, it's a shame because I think this person thinks they're doing the right thing. Yeah. And I wish I could shake them and just say you're missing the whole point.
Starting point is 01:14:19 You're missing the whole point. I know. It's like the lemon really did get squeezed a little bit here, like the moment of being on And then it's like the nastiness like really came out. And it's like you've been at this camp for how long? Right. Like do you really think none of the kids you've ever worked with don't identify? Maybe that's why they haven't come out.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And it's just like, it's just like come on. It's like O.P here, who is the like director isn't even saying like you're done. O.P gave them a choice and is like if you can't have that in your heart and work with this kid like I don't. I don't know if it's a good fit. O.P.'s not even being like, no, you're done. That's messed up. Yeah. And so it's like this person is making their own choice.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Yeah. O.P., you're not an asshole. You're my hero. Yeah, not the asshole. And that was the overall vote on the post. Yeah, of course. Not the asshole. Your instincts were right on this one, says the top comment.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Health is part of intersectionality. If even one person in a position of power within your small medical community is going to leverage another facet of someone's identity to treat them as other, you will have a culture problem and quickly. Your board is not going to remove you. Good on you for checking. Is it possible for you to leverage the camp's external comms resources to express solidarity during Pride Month or to do something to otherwise signal your intentions to accept all? It may help mitigate a volunteer who wants to burn your reputation. Because that's the other side of this too. There's all these other
Starting point is 01:15:48 volunteers now being like, you reacted too harshly. They got to go. It's just like, I know a girl who runs these, she built these tiny homes in Vyselia and it's like world-changing stuff and she, you know, deals with a lot of donors who are hyper-religious and she wears a pride flag pin to show anyone that wants to come stay there that they're safe. Yeah. And I think it's awesome. She's not herself. She doesn't identify as queer, but she wears that to make people feel welcome and safe.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Yeah, exactly. It's appreciated. And she'll have donors withhold like tens of millions of dollars because of that. And she will say, I don't want your money. I'll find someone else with money. Because it's not about that, you know what I'm saying? I'm not going to lower the bar or I'm not going to abandon my morals just to get your money and to appease you. And again, it's like I would rather not have your money and find it elsewhere than have money that comes with hate, division, and ignorance, you know. So I think it's really admirable what she does and she really sticks up for what's right
Starting point is 01:16:56 at no matter of the cost. And I think that it really just signals to the other people that are part of the community that she cares and she's not going to go back on what she believes for a couple extra pennies, although hundreds of millions of dollars are not pennies. Yeah, no, that's insane. Yeah. It's absolutely incredible. Yeah, it's so funny people.
Starting point is 01:17:14 We're talking about helping the homeless here, right? It's insane to me how if she's too Christian, they won't donate. And then if she's not Christian enough, they won't donate. And they have all these stupid beliefs about what she needs to believe. And I'm like, we're missing the point here. This is this humanitarian crisis. This is not about faith. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:17:33 This isn't about your beliefs. This is about making sure people are fed, making sure they're taking care of. And it blows me away the amount of people with money who don't give it away because somebody doesn't believe what they believe. Or they will only give away money under conditions or like certain homeless organizations. They can only stay here if you memorize these Bible. or if you pledge X, Y, Z thing, like, what the fuck are we talking about here? Like, they think they're doing God a favor.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Like, oh, my God. Sorry, I get, I get so fucking. Yeah. Well, you're in it. I mean, you're so in it with your organization. Yeah. And it's clearly a passion project for you. And it's absurd to me.
Starting point is 01:18:10 It's just like, look at the organization. Is it a cause you believe in helping homeless people? Yeah. Okay. Is it being run ethically? Yeah. Okay. That's it.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Bottom line. Totally. Two questions. 100%. Yeah, yeah. I agree. It's just like it's just like it's. silly and help people wake up.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Yeah, it makes me actually upset. Like, last night I was going on a whole rant with my friend in the car about how we have all the resources. And now this is a detour, but fuck it. We have the resources to end homelessness, to end hunger. There are certain people who could sneeze out money that they would never even know was gone that could literally solve, like majority of the crisis is in the world. Isn't that unreal?
Starting point is 01:18:48 It makes me so upset. Like billionaires and trillionaires? I'm like, what do you need it for? And the thing is they'll tell you, they'll justify and go, well, I earn my money fairly or whatever. I'm like, okay, fairly, that's arguable. But still, maybe you didn't earn your money fairly. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 01:19:01 You're technically right. But we're not talking about a matter of did you technically earn money. This is a humanitarian issue. This is an emotional issue. Like, how do you sleep at night and not hear the cries of the oppressed and those who are dying of hunger or who are dying in war zone or whatever? Like, how does that not keep you up at night? Do you know what I'm saying? No, it's my brain is fried.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Like I'm so overwhelmed with everything going on. And I have to also like take personal responsibility for like, how can I do better, right? I have to make sure I don't point the finger too much and remember that I have my own work to do. And that's kind of what birth Sammy Sundays is we kind of were looking around being like, when are people going to start helping this issue? And we were like, well, if they're not going to do it, we're going to do it. And hopefully it inspires more people to do it. And so it took me and Rita just deciding like, fuck it, let's do it. And all of our volunteers have said at one point or another, I've always wanted to do this.
Starting point is 01:19:47 I just never knew whether how. And it took me and Rita making the decision. And so part of me shakes my fist at those in power that can do something about it that don't. And then I also remember that I also have privilege and I also have power and I have to find out how to utilize that. So leave it down the comments anyways in which we can be working together to help. No, I just, it's so important. And like I heard somewhere like you're like I'm a mom-da-honey super fan. And I'm like, it's just a great example of like you can like do these grassroots initiatives that turn out to be so big.
Starting point is 01:20:17 And, like, I don't think people realize, like, what he did to help taxi drivers and their medallions. And it's just, like, I went down a rabbit hole. Filling potholes. I mean, the pothole thing is, like, how many potholes he's already filled? He filled every pothole in New York in one day or whatever. It's just insane. So I think there is hope. And it's just, like, how can we all come together to, like, really show up and make a difference?
Starting point is 01:20:38 And it can feel so paralyzing where you're, like, everything's shit. Yeah. But starting small, starting, like, an organization or going and volunteering with one that exists, it's. Yeah. And also- It's how you start. Yes, agreed. And finding what your unique gift is, right? Like, some people are really gifted speakers. Some people are really gifted bakers. Some people are really good at, you know, there's a whole spectrum, obviously, of things that people are good at. And it's like, okay, how can you use your gift? How can your purpose and your passion align? How can you do? And again, we were not talking about, like, necessarily, like, give away your whole life just for, like, helping others, although that would be awesome. You know, what about even like 70-30, where you work 70% and then 30% of it is like making the world a better place. And I just got my first tattoo. It's a spark. Cute.
Starting point is 01:21:29 The idea is that one spark can start a forest fire. One person can change the world. Yeah. And I did the math. And if every single person in the world donated two cents, it would raise $182 instantly. But if every single person in the world donated $2, he would raise over $16 billion instantly. Now think about $20, right? You know, you just keep going from there.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Everyone thinks, like, what change can I make? I'm just one person. But if everyone has a mentality, then no one makes a difference. And if you look in history, it's just a couple of people. Very few people who had the courage and had the willingness to say, I'm going to do something if no one else is. But if everyone were to have that mentality, we live in a day and age of connection where we can collaborate in ways that we've never been able to collaborate before. And we see it. There's so many awesome people like Jimmy Darts, who will find a homeless person and we'll start to go forward.
Starting point is 01:22:16 fund me and, you know, a hundred thousand people will donate a dollar and that person gets $100,000. Yeah, I know they get a house. Exactly. But each person has a small thing to do. I mean, maybe people with more money have more to do. Yeah, let's just tax the billionaires. Yeah, exactly, right? Heaven forbid, they pay their fair share. But anyways, yeah, again, I think the more, the sooner we understand that we can each do even a small thing to make the world a better place and never underestimating your ability to change someone's life. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm with you and just get involved. And I think, like, to your point of, like, just what is your passion, what's your talent? And, like, how could you use that? Like, even baking, someone being like,
Starting point is 01:22:53 well, I'm just a baker. How can I help? I don't think people realize that, like, at food shelves, birthday cakes are, like, so needed and wanted. It's like, if you're a baker, bake a cake and donate it to the food shelf because when someone is in such a dire place, a birthday cake is, like, the last thing they're going to prioritize. Yes. But it's so special and so important still. So there are ways for everyone to find their passion, their niche and make a difference. Absolutely, I agree. Okay, I have one last one that's like super short just to end us on. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:25 And it's just kind of a reset because a lot of these were super heavy. This last one is coming from true off my chest. It's titled, Something I saw today reminded me there are still good people out there. I was standing in line at a grocery store today and in front of me there was a woman with a small child. When it was her turn to pay, her card didn't go through, and you could see that she was getting embarrassed because people were waiting behind her. She quietly started putting back some of the groceries on the counter.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Then the guy behind her told the cashier, add the rest of her items to his bill, and paid for them like it was nothing. He didn't wait for a thank you and just walked away. The woman looked like she was about to cry, and that small moment honestly stayed in my mind the whole day because it reminded me that kindness still exists. Yes, amen.
Starting point is 01:24:10 It made me think of when I was working at Legoland when I was 16, yeah. Oh my gosh. Some guy tipped 50 bucks. And that was like life altering for me. And I thought about it for two weeks straight. It was less about having 50 extra bucks and more about how he could be so casually generous, expecting nothing in return. And it wasn't even a second thought to him, like she said. And that one act of generosity radically changed my life in the way that I look at generosity.
Starting point is 01:24:40 And the ripple effect of that went so far beyond what I've ever seen. Obviously, you don't need to be giving people $50, like not everyone has $50 to give away. But little acts like that have such a profound ripple effect on the world. And so I try to remember that too, that those little acts of kindness, like, they really do go a long way. Absolutely. So, yeah, I love that. I think that's awesome. Good note to end on.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Josh, thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Everyone check out the book, Rookie. But anything else you want to share with people? No, I just think again, it goes back to what I said, never underestimate your ability to change someone's life for better or worse. And we all have a part to play and making the world a better place. Absolutely. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:25:17 All of Josh's links will be in the description. Until next time, guys. Bye. Peace. Ah.

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