Two Hot Takes - 289: Biggest Opp!

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Lauren! We're getting into stories where someone in them seems like a secret hater, a rival or the biggest opponent. From an OP that roasts her f...riends newborn for being ugly, to a bride whose mom wants to wear her prom dress to the wedding, to a husband who poops too much for a wife to have another kid with him and more! Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Also kicking off our October and the start of the season with a pumpkin patch set and new intro thanks to Justin OooooOooo. HELP! SUBSCRIBE ON YOUTUBE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Partners:  State Farm: A State Farm agent can help you choose the coverage you need. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.® Chrysler: Check out the newly-designed Chrysler Pacifica! Visit https://Chrysler.com to learn more. Patreon BONUS Content including FREE stories: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ NEW MERCH:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.twohottakes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ WRITE IN TO US!! Our SubReddit! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoHotTakes/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Index: 00:00 -- Start Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:01 subscribers on YouTube before we hit 300 episodes. I will do a 10-hour episode for episode 300. Oh my God. You get me to a million subscribers on YouTube before we hit episode 300. When is that? It's coming up. How many? So, countdown begins, guys.
Starting point is 00:01:22 This episode, this biggest op. I know you're going to do it with like multiple people and like chop it all up and stuff. but I just got the vision of just us locking ourselves in a room for like 10 hours and just going delirious. I could give you five hours. Okay, so episode 300 is pretty soon, actually. I think it'll be before the end of 2026 because this episode will be 289. Okay. So you have 11 episodes to get it to a million on YouTube and you'll get 10 hours.
Starting point is 00:01:57 This is great gamification. This is like, this is like tell all of your friends. Tell your friends. Yeah. Tell your friends. Tell your mom. Tell your grandma. Whoever's got a YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Wait, you're brilliant. I just want my plaque. Like, I've worked really hard. I just want my plaque. I want my present. I just want my present. So, yeah, that's that. This is going to be a really good episode.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I'm really excited. We've got Lauren here. Welcome to the Pumpkin Patch, Lauren. It is pretty wild in with this. You were not joking around. I was not messing around. I said this. spooky Halloween, September, October vibe. I'm hitting it hard. Do you like keep this stuff in a
Starting point is 00:02:39 storage or how do you handle this? Or did you buy all this recently? This guy looks familiar. We know this guy. He's brand new. He's brand new? Yeah. For those listening, it is a ginormous pumpkin figure. He is, I believe, 46 or 48 inches tall and he like comes out of the ground and has arms that extend everywhere. Did you not have someone just like him, like last year? I had a skeleton dog. Oh, that's, that was it. Skeleton dog.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah. Pumpkin Patch is a new theme this year. Okay. I really wanted to mix it up, go big, not home. And, yeah, here we are. I love that. I know. I really like it.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'm excited to show you guys. Because this might be the first episode you guys see the spooky, the spooky patch. Yay. I know. Morgan, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say go big, not home, which is so shocking to me, but I love it. It's go big or go home, but like, I'm not going home. Right. No, I know. Not an option. But that's why I'm like, why have I not heard that before? Might have happened for the first time just here. I hope that was just now. We'd love that. Right here. Right now. That is like a stem in my head constantly. But I'm just really excited to get into this episode. This is a concept I've been toying with for a while. And have you heard the first. And have you heard the first? phrase biggest op? Yeah. Yeah. What do you feel like it is to you? What does it mean to you?
Starting point is 00:04:03 Honestly, we have a friend who says it about things that are always funny, like a dog that's like barking at another dog. So that's what I think of. But I know that it's a much bigger than that. A lot more angst to it. Yeah. Yeah. So for those I haven't heard the term before, or biggest op is like your greatest rival, an enemy, a primary source of opposition. And there's so many times in these Reddit stories where this person is friends with their biggest op. That's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And you're just like, girl, like you gotta run. This girl hates you. Or you're dating your biggest op. Yeah. This guy does not like you. I literally, I don't know how I ended up on this side of videos, but I keep getting the most disturbing videos of like people doing pranks and being like,
Starting point is 00:04:51 there was this one prank going around where you, would introduce your boyfriend of the camera. I was like, this is my friend. And these guys, it was like a compilation video. And all of these guys were like, your friend. And they'd like hit the girl with a pillow or like hit her in the face. And I'm like, this is fucking deranged. Like do not date. Do not be friends with. Do not associate with. Don't breathe air in the same room as your biggest op. If you feel someone's your op, you got to go. Yeah. You got to be done. No matter what it is. So we're getting into stories today. I'm sorry, I'm trying to think if I would be upset if I was hit with a pillow.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I think I'd be okay. Depends on how hard the hit was. I'm going to show you the video. Okay, okay. I'm going to show you the video. It was disturbing. But yeah, these stories all have an op and we get to determine who is who. Is it a big op or am I making small peanuts out of nothing?
Starting point is 00:05:43 Big peanuts out of nothing? Oh, that mountains out of molehills for sure. That's above my big range. Yeah. But I'm super excited. We've got one. We've got pumpkins. We've got good vibes. It's a Friday.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Hey. Hey, hey, hey, Friday, hey, hey, hey. I love a weekend. It's been a stressful past few weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a stressful year. I'm fostering a dog right now, and this dog is being my biggest op. I love him, but he's just a little goofy.
Starting point is 00:06:17 He's so cute, though. Inside, though, he's good. Inside the house, he's great. Yeah. The minute you walk out. the front door though. Yeah. Bad news bears. But it's all good. I'm going to help him find his next amazing home. Yeah. Okay. Are you ready? Mm-hmm. Let's dive in. Let's do it. This episode is presented by State Farm. There's impressive, like instantly winning over your boyfriend's parents, and then
Starting point is 00:07:35 there's impressive, like being smart about saving money for your dream home or a sweet new ride. And a great way to do that is to bundle home and auto with the State Farm personal price plan. Bundling, just another way to save with the personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, state farm is there. Prices are based on ratings plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. Let's kick this off, okay? So this first one, coming from Am I the Asshole, titled Am I the Asshole for Telling My Friend That Her Baby Looks Like an Alien? Ooh. And how soon after, too. Oh, gosh. My best friend of 15 years recently had a newborn baby boy. I went to visit her at the hospital. Her whole family was there, including her husband or baby daddy because they're not actually married. Side note, we had a fling in high school. Anyways, she asked me whether her baby was cute or not and told me to be as honest as possible. Because she couldn't tell since, of course, it's her own baby.
Starting point is 00:08:40 be. Honesty has always been a policy in our friendship. In the past, I've always been honest with her, like whether an outfit was ugly or a haircut was bad, and she always admired that quality about me. So I thought, why not be honest about this too? She did it to herself. I told her that at first he looked kind of alienish and that his head was a bit oversized. She laughed. Then my neurodivergent brain kind of got off track and I went into detail about his bulging eyes, long arms, and double chin, among other things. Bro. I kind of lost it a bit and by the end she was in tears.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I just couldn't stop. I realized as she was holding him that she had really taken it to heart and now I feel bad. She was pretty quiet at first and then later told me to leave the room. I felt so bad she was literally sobbing at this point. Later that day, I got a paragraph long text from her telling me that she's never going to talk to me again and that I went too far this time. She said she thinks her baby is adorable and that I was way too brutal about her newborn blessing. Sure, I kind of feel bad, but she literally told me to be honest and I was. I gave my two cents because she asked and I don't think I should be blasted for 10.000.
Starting point is 00:10:07 telling the truth. Am I the asshole? You know, here's the thing. I've come across people where, again, she laughed at first whenever O.P. said alien-ish. That's a normal thing. Like, right, a lot of people talking about that. Right. So then I was, I'm thinking that is not that big of a deal. A lot of little babies are, like, and it's cute. It's a little, like, squishy. I don't know, whatever. So sometimes people talk in that type of, language, but bulging eyes and scraggly arms, like, calm down. Like, real it is. Exactly. What are you doing? I don't know. I just kind of think, like, yeah, like, you are, you are the asshole. You can still be honest and be tasteful about it. I mean, if that's your
Starting point is 00:10:55 relationship and you guys are like, honesty is best palsy and she's expecting you to like to not lie to her face, you could still give, like, feel like you're not lying to her and then, and still chill out, you know? I mean, especially have a little bit of common sense. This is somebody who just gave birth. There's a lot of hormones involved. There's a lot of love involved. Like, chill out. What are you doing? What do you think? I'm completely on board with you. I'm a bit baffled that, well, we've always had an honest relationship. Have you? Or do you just say you're honest when in reality you're kind of actually a jackass? Because I've always been honest with her, whether it's a bad haircut or her outfit sucks. Like, I don't know. Like, I get,
Starting point is 00:11:40 you want your friends to kind of help you if you really look hideous. But at the same time, like, you, you're kind of coming across, like, your opinion is so high and mighty. Yeah. And I'm like, this is her baby. Like, what's the point of dragging this baby? Like, you dragged the fuck out of this baby. She can't send it back. Like, so you just traumatized her, said her baby is really, really ugly. Like, why not just lie? Or why not just end at Alien? They say that there's a phrase,
Starting point is 00:12:11 I'm not going to know it. You probably will botch it. But there's a phrase that goes along the lines of don't tell someone something unless it's something they can fix in a few seconds. Oh, we've talked about this. Yeah, I love that. It's just like if you want a haircut.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Okay, let's fix this a little bit. Let's push your banks to the side because this is accentuating X, XYZ, and then next time ask them for this type of cut. Cool, whatever. If that's what works for your relationship, great. But, like, if you were to, like, go in and be like, I hate your chin or, like, something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:45 That's, you don't do that. No. Just don't do that. It's just not, there's no reason that that helps anyone, unless they're literally, like, going into, like, a cosmetic surgery and they're showing you, like, these, like, pictures. And they're like, do you like chin one or chin two? Like, then fine.
Starting point is 00:13:01 But like otherwise, shut up. Don't do it. I'm very, very confused how they've lasted 15 years. I also think, like, just in this post, too, there's so many subtle digs where she's even, like, I went to visit her at the hospital. Her whole family was there, including her husband, parentheses, or baby daddy, because they're not actually married. Side note, we had a fling in high school. Yeah. So basically, like, I had them first. I didn't want him.
Starting point is 00:13:32 We had a fling in high school. Also, they're not even married. So, yeah. Why is that relevant to this story at all? Yeah. Again, do you like your friend? They're not even married. So it's just baby daddy.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah, no, that's... That baby was born out of wedlock. Ew! The fact that you would mention this, actually, in this post is so odd. And it's really making it seem like a lot of jealousy so much jealousy she got the life
Starting point is 00:14:04 that you wanted or something I don't know but something's off yeah I do not blame her for being like I don't want to talk to you anymore
Starting point is 00:14:14 I mean clearly again as you mentioned like hormones just had this baby maybe had 30 hours of labor and then you went through all that and someone says your kid looks like shit like she was sobbing
Starting point is 00:14:27 to the point of just tears and I understand why you would need to at least take a break from the friendship if not end it for good. Top comment on this one. Obviously you're the asshole laughing my ass off. Why did you even waste your time posting this? Next one down. The I'm not mean. I'm just honest. And I didn't mean to be mean. I'm just neurodivergent. Clubs need to be annihilated. And I will say a lot of people start picking up on that where it's like having anything, whether it's autism, ADHD, neurodivergency, mental health issues, whatever it is. Like, that's not an excuse to be mean or XYZ to other people. Yeah, there's like you, like, if, if they were to mention it and be like,
Starting point is 00:15:19 I can't really tell because I'm wondering if this is a part, like maybe something that's missing me. but I'm just, I feel like it came off very much as like an excuse. Like, why would I, like, I'm in the clear. I didn't do anything wrong because I'm just being honest. Yeah. So that's what's annoying. Next top comment, you're the asshole. She asked for honesty, not a full roast of her newborn.
Starting point is 00:15:45 So true. Most babies look a little weird at first. But listing every feature after she was already laughing crossed into being hurtful. Being honest doesn't mean saying everything you think, especially to someone who's just given birth. The full roast comment just actually makes me laugh because truly like it feels like one of those things that you see on TV where they're just when they like go and like roast the celebrities just is like that's not what I don't think that's what she asked for. No. Yeah. Real it in.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Someone does point out the we had a fling comment. I knew you were the asshole after we had a fling comment. ugly baby or not honey, she won, let him go. Oh, God. I love, I love that. I mean, honestly, I think it's so disrespectful to... Why I mentioned it? Bring that up in like any context unless like the person who is married brings it up.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I just, I think it's really not tasteful. It's not. No. That would bother, that'd bother me. Like, yep, that's in the past. Let's not do that. I know. I feel like we had a story.
Starting point is 00:16:50 It might have been on Patreon. where the friend had introduced them and was like talking about giving a speech at their wedding or something and was just like, I need everyone to know, like basically I introduced you. I'm the reason you guys are together. So weird. Or gave that speech at the engagement party. Yeah. It's sounding super familiar.
Starting point is 00:17:10 If anyone knows, please let me know in the comments. Well, we do get an edit from OP. Oh, let's hear it. Okay, everyone. I know everyone thinks I'm the asshole. but if everyone knew what she said when I got my first husband, you would know why I thought it was okay to be so honest.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I still don't think I'm the asshole. Oh, okay. Edit. Ten toes down. Yeah. Edit two. Y'all are so fucking rude. Yes, I'm autistic and ADHD. Yes, it makes me say cruel things,
Starting point is 00:17:46 but I don't mean it. If anything, I have good intentions with what I say. Y'all should read a fucking book about neurodivergent minds instead of ridiculing us. I'm not using it as an excuse, but rather an explanation. Go touch grass and stop bullying those of us in the world who care about authenticity. You came here and asked for people's opinion. They're giving you their opinion.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And that's what gets me is that like if the neurodivergent was as just like an explanation, then I think that there'd be a little bit more like being receptive to people's feedback. And sure, if people are being really mean about it, then like acknowledging that. But I do think the tent toes down. I didn't do anything wrong. And like you guys just need to accept that like I'm going to say mean things. And I deserve to do that. I think it would be way better if OP responded and said, hey, calm down. Maybe you guys are not familiar with this. But these things do happen. I don't mean harm. At the end of the day, if it hurt my friend, it hurt my friend. And that's what I need to feel. focus on. I didn't realize there was going to be so much harshness. I was just looking for, but that wasn't what was happening. And I think that that would be a really good, like, well, and here's the thing. And maybe, maybe I'm misunderstanding what she's saying. But for her to say, I'm autistic and ADHD. Yes, it makes me say cruel things. I'm autistic and have ADHD. You have ADHD. It doesn't make us say cruel things. So I'm like, are you trying to imply that
Starting point is 00:19:21 autism and ADHD is the reason you say cruel things because other people have those same diagnoses and it doesn't make them say cruel things. So maybe you just need better coping strategies to keep those things in. Yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah, I know what you mean. I do, I do think. I'm like maybe I'm maybe I am totally misunderstanding what she is saying though. And it's hard for me to say too because I think that everything is so unique, right? Like I feel like every aspect of like neurodivergencies like there's it's like a personality along with it. So it's like for some people, like, it might look way different than another person. It does. It does look different from person to a person. Yeah. So I don't want to, like, speak on behalf, but I do, I do think that
Starting point is 00:20:03 at the end of the day, like, if you feel that you're saying cruel things, then you should be like, I am so sorry. And then own it. And be like, I am so sorry that is not my intention. Like, I just thought that's how my brain was processing. I meant no harm. Instead of being like, I didn't do anything wrong. I'm just being honest. Yeah. Like, be, own it and be like, I, I said a cruel thing, but it was out of love and I'm so sorry. It came from a place of love. Yeah. And then you, but like instead, that's what's making OP's story just not really, you know. It's not lining up. It's not that great. Yeah. No, definitely, definitely an op. Okay, moving on to number two here. Oh, I was hoping for another update. I wish. O. P did delete their account.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Bye, bitches. Bye. So number two is coming from R slash relationships. My boyfriend, 19 male, got the job instead of me, 19 female. He's unintentionally rubbing it in my face, but won't stop. My boyfriend and I both applied for an open position for undergrads at a local engineering company. The position was very appealing. It offered good pay, flexible hours, and was a great resume edition since they're a pretty big company. The application, process was long and arduous and extremely competitive and they ended up only accepting three undergrads out of a final pool of 10. Boyfriend and I both go to the same school, top five in the U.S., so education-wise, we were both qualified, and he majors in CS while I major in bio with a minor
Starting point is 00:21:39 in CS. I hate to turn this into a competition, but my boyfriend is smarter than me in a lot of areas. He has a more analytical brain, whereas I'm more creative. I have a heftier resume than him, and I'm better at communication. I would have loved for us to both get the job. But if not, I was fairly sure that I would get it. Also, he only decided to apply after I told him that I was applying. But that's a whole other issue that I don't want to delve into. Anyways, we both make it to the final pool of 10, but he ends up getting the job and I don't. I was upset. but hid my sadness in order to be happy for him. I really, really wanted that job. When he got the email, he was ecstatic, and he was running all over his dorm, excited and screaming. I was still in the room. At the time, he already knew I didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:22:33 So it kind of hurt that he acted in such a dramatic way. He did apologize afterwards. Anyways, now he's been working there for about two months, and it's going great for him. but he unintentionally rubs it in my face a lot. I'm currently working as an intern at a CS lab at our school, and of course I get paid less than him, and I have less benefits, but I quite like the job.
Starting point is 00:22:59 My boyfriend will say stuff like, quote, ah, you only get paid $15.50 an hour. Oh. That's so little. I get paid $20 an hour. Or he'll say something like, quote, Hey, we had a sushi buffet today and there was so much sashimi. Did you guys get any? Like, no, we didn't, obviously. Thanks for asking.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Other examples are, quote, look at all the free stuff I got. You get any free stuff this week? Quote, I can't believe I'm getting paid this much to do basically intro stuff. Quote, I love my job so much. I definitely understand that. That half of this is because he actually likes his job and can't contain his excitement. But the other half kind of comes across as insensitive. Yeah. Though he might not realize it. If I didn't apply for the job and not get it, then, of course, I wouldn't mind.
Starting point is 00:23:58 But he knows that I tried super hard to get the job and didn't end up getting it. Shouldn't he know to tone it down a bit? Or am I being too sensitive? I want to tell him it makes me sad, but don't want to come across as selfish, just because I didn't get the job doesn't mean he can't be happy about it. Different things. O.P. This is like, to me, this is deeper than what you think it is.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Thank you. That's so messed up. I mean, I think that if they were like really sarcastic people and, you know, that's the way that they communicated with each other, like, and he thought that, like, they could be funny, then maybe. But, like, I don't see really any. any way that he could possibly think that what he's saying is okay. Unless she had just done that to him about a previous situation. And so he thought he was being playful. But like even then,
Starting point is 00:24:57 it still wouldn't be okay because the reality is, is like a job is such a sensitive thing for everybody. Like if you're doing good at your job, if you're not, if you're happy, if you're not. Like, it's just like it's something that people put a lot of effort and focus and their heart goes into a lot of it. And so to mess around like that is just so cruel. Yeah, I can't, I'm like, I'm trying to see if there's any way to like devil's advocate this one. And I can't. I just, I can't. I think it's, he's a big asshole. I'm a little confused by the whole scenario too of like, you telling him, I'm applying for this job. I'm really excited about it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And then he goes and applies. Yeah. Was it to knock you down a peg? Was it because this is truly just a once in a lifetime internship, job opportunity, and he needed to do it? I'm kind of weirded out by it because it's like, why couldn't you let her have this? And then add on the fact that he continuously is rubbing your face in it. It's so messed up. We had a sushi buffet at lunch today.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Did you get any? There was so much shishimi. Yeah. No, I didn't have sushi today. I'm working at the school. I'm not even there. Honest, and like the thing is, is like, I think that if he wasn't trying to be a complete asshole, he would have just left it at like, we got sashimi today. I was so excited. But did you, did you get any? Like, knowing, knowing that she didn't. It's so. It's pointed. Yeah. It's very, very purposeful and feels malicious. again, just these jabs, did you get any? Right.
Starting point is 00:26:45 If you only get paid $14.50, I get $20 an hour. I know. If she would have just been like, he kept saying how much he loves his job, I love my job so much. Then I'd be like, okay, you know what? He probably doesn't mean it. He probably just can't continue his excitement. But I can't, from these quotes, I can't believe that he's doing anything else besides trying to put her down and feel bigger.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Like, I just don't. I can't. see it otherwise. And I'm trying, I tried. No, I did. And I get being so overly excited and like, this is a big opportunity, cool. But you still in your head have to realize my girlfriend was up for the same position. She didn't get it. I did. The typical response, I think, for something like this, which maybe isn't necessarily the right response, but would to be more reserved because you feel bad rubbing it in the other person's face. Exactly. Exactly. That's more typical. than this. And it's again, again and again, very consistent. There's not anyone I could imagine
Starting point is 00:27:47 speaking to in this way. So to do it to like you're the person that you're supposed to like really be looking out for and be a team and be partners with is just like, what? Like I wouldn't even do this to a stranger. Like I wouldn't even do this to someone I don't like. Like imagine talking to a coworker like this that you're going up for the same promotion. Yeah. No. You wouldn't. No. It's unprofessional. It's mean. It's very cruel. Topcom and on the post, they quote the 15-50 an hour, I get paid 20. They say, that's an asshole move by your boyfriend. Regardless of all of the other insensitive crap he's doing, this one is the worst. That's not unintentional either. He's doing this on purpose. Someone responds to that and says,
Starting point is 00:28:29 even if I generously assume the boyfriend is just terminally clueless, there's a clear vibe of sucks to be you going on here. Exactly. It may help ease the sting a little if next time you can work and a, I'm delighted that you're well paid. When are you taking me out to a nice dinner to celebrate? It would probably hurt a lot less if he was making any sort of attempt to have his success also be your success in a rising tide lifts all boats kind of way. I get that he can't, like bring home lunch sushi in a takeout box for you, but he can at least use a little of his extra $5 an hour to take you on a nice date.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Kind of a side note, but I'm also really side-eyeing his, I can't believe I'm getting paid this much to do basically intros. stuff. I'm a CS major. And especially with internships, you actually don't really want to be doing intro stuff. You want to be doing work that will prepare you for the real working world. It may be easy now, but when he has to explain his summer intern work, when job searching, he's either going to have to be real good at bullshitting and then learning real fast, or he's going to end up in a mediocre job. This comment is not making his work ethic look real good. O.P. responds, I actually love this. I will definitely try that line about dinner, thanks. I'm probably going to have an actual sit down conversation
Starting point is 00:29:44 with him, though. After that, if he slips again, I'll use that. Trust me, it's probably not actually intro stuff. He's probably bragging to make himself seem smarter. Yes, I said it. My boyfriend has quite the ego. He thinks very highly of himself because he just knows he's smart and that he doesn't really have competition. I mean, cool, intelligence is attractive, but when you flaunt it too much, it gets really tiring. That's, I was going to say, it's just like, It's not attractive when people act like a complete fill in the blank about it. It's like, well, go be smart by yourself. Bye.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Bye. Well, and it's just like the comment here. It's like, I mean, he does this about sometimes other things, like a really high test score, even though I got a bad one. Again, just looking back at their ages, they're 19. He's clearly got an ego. He's been, you know, maybe the smartest kid in his classroom. class for a while and people don't don't on him and tell him how good he is. But I don't think that means you should stick around and be belittled. Like, this is someone that if you do stick with them,
Starting point is 00:30:53 it's always going to be I'm better than you. I'm smarter than you. I don't know. I think that there's a chance he grows out of this type of thing. Like he said, he's really young. I think he could. I think he could grow out of it. But I don't think that OP should have to wait for it. No, he needs to be knocked down a couple pegs. Yeah. And it's not going to come from you because I don't think Right. He respects you enough in that way. And that's exactly why I don't think that OPE should stay. Because I'm just like there's just, I think the core thing of relationship, respect, doesn't feel like it's there. Respect and consideration.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And, you know, maybe if, like, he's so wonderful in every other way, then, like, yeah, then stay and figure it out with him. But, like, if you're feeling this is a theme in a lot of areas, then it's really something to make. Skiddle. Yeah. Bye. But if you stay, you should definitely be like, great, I'm not paying for anything anymore. You make so much more than me. You're like, Daddy.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Daddy's credit card. You're going to treat me? Yeah. Thank you, babe. Just tell everyone. So nice you're making more money than me. Yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I am dating, just the servers. I am dating the smartest guy who makes so much money so it's on him tonight. Thank you, babe. Oh, yeah. Play into it. O.P. does start reading all these comments because everyone's like, this isn't unintentional. This isn't normal. This isn't okay. Yeah. Yeah. And Opie goes, all of these comments have made me realize
Starting point is 00:32:18 how he's being incredibly insensitive. And half of these might even be slightly intentional. I will be having a very serious conversation about this with him. Thanks. And just some other details of like, thank you for that comment. I am going to use that. Yep. Using that line, this, that. And then we get an update. Let's hear it. You were not as excited as I wanted you to be. Let's hear it! Thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Thank you. That was nice. A massive thanks to everyone who gave me advice and also opened in my eyes to how big of a douchebag my boyfriend of eight months was being. Woo! Special thanks to those who eloquently put what I've been wanting to say for the past few months in a words for me so I could say it to him. A day after I made the post, we were hanging out in his dorm when he began talking about. about his work. He wasn't necessarily bragging this time. It was more like talking about some projects that they're having him do. After a pause in the conversation, I decided to bring up my
Starting point is 00:33:17 feelings about him rubbing his job in my face and constantly comparing our positions. I said something along the lines of, quote, I'm really, really happy for your job, and I can tell that you really love it and have a great time there. I'm not sure if you remember, but I was actually really disappointed that I didn't get that job. But I've been trying to move on. from my disappointment. However, I feel that you are making it harder for me to move on by constantly comparing our two positions. Sometimes, it seems like you're trying to rub the benefits of your job in my face. I then listed a couple of examples. I've been feeling a bit hurt over this, and I would really love it if you could stop comparing our positions, because that's very inconsiderate. And maybe instead,
Starting point is 00:33:59 we can both share a bit about our day at work without turning it into a contest, end quote. After that, My boyfriend squinted at me and said, quote, are you serious? Classic. He then proceeded to tell me that I was, some of you guys called it, being way too sensitive. He also asked, quote, why can't I be happy about my job? And, quote, do you just want me to never talk about anything that you don't have because it makes you feel shitty? This is so infuriating. He also said, to my utmost astonishment, quote, I mean, I don't see the problem with comparing the two positions.
Starting point is 00:34:43 It is obvious that my job has better benefits and perks than yours, and I'm just pointing them out. You don't need to see that in a negative light. What an... Oh my God, you're such an idiot. Go just stop, stop interacting with humanity. There was much more bullshit that came out of his mouth, but after like two minutes of hearing him rant about how I was being too. sensitive and restricting his happiness. I said, his name, you are an absolute piece of shit. Everything you just said was not only extremely inconsiderate, but very selfish.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I really, really wanted to just yell at him and list off the hundreds of things that was wrong with what he said, but instead I refrained and just said, dude, we're over. Hell yeah. This is so satisfying. He said, what? Yeah. And I got up from his bed and bolted straight out of the door. I've been ignoring his text, calls, and Facebook messages for the past few days. I actually feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I'm enjoying my job more, and overall, I just feel free as fuck. On a side note, there's this cute guy who sits two computers away from me at the lab I currently work at, Winky Face. Love it. What a beautiful, beautiful ending. Also, just want to point out that response, I'm not even so.
Starting point is 00:36:03 surprised. And I do think that all of us should be aware because that is such gaslighting behavior. And I think that it can, if like we didn't have this village, if OPE didn't have this village behind her, like cheering her on, rooting for her and just, you know, all of the support that's come from this, OPE might be like, crap, am I being too sensitive? And really start second guessing herself, especially the way that OP explained it, was very kind. She just expressed, like, really her feelings. And instead of her partner coming and meeting her there and being like, that was not my intention, I'm so sorry that you're feeling that way. I'm so sorry that I made you feel that way. Like, goes into this attack mode. And it's common for people to get defensive
Starting point is 00:36:55 when someone calls them out on their behavior. But, like, if that, if they can't, can't come down to earth with you when you're expressing yourself like in such a effective way, then the like your relationship will always be so miserable because anytime you guys hit a bump in the road, you're going to feel so unheard and like nothing's going to get solved. And so I do think it's really important for us to like hear the way that he responded. And then when you're in conversations with somebody that you might be questioning, realize what they're doing is not okay and, you know, be able to be confident in that and not fall for what they're trying to do, which is gaslight the F out of you.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Sorry, was that too long? No. Sorry, that's a lot. I really like it. I know, I do think it's something people need to hear because it's so easy to just like, obviously we want to hope for the best in people and think that they don't have ill intentions or whatever. And, you know, maybe they don't. Maybe that's just their twist.
Starting point is 00:37:59 way of thinking and they're, I don't know, maybe like they have a victim complex. And it's like, no, like you don't want me to talk about my job, like you're not happy for me. And it's like, I don't know, maybe the reframing and gaslighting or whatever it is, like is coming from a not evil place. But most of it's not. And I do think that is the case. But hey, like, that person needs to work on it. Yeah. You were just trying to explain your feelings. And if your feelings are met with contempt and disdain and reframing it, so you're the bad guy. Like, that's not okay. Like, no. You went into this being like, he's unintentionally rubbing it into my face. You weren't even assuming bad motives, but he can't even take you saying like, hey, you're hurting my feelings.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah. He flips it on you. Right. Regardless of the situation, you want a partner that's going to meet you with like, I'm so sorry. Like, I made you feel that way. I hear you. Let's work on it going forward. Because obviously I'm excited about my job and I know you, you know, you're excited for me too. Just in the same way, I'm excited for you. So yeah, I'd love to talk about our jobs and constructive of great ways. Yeah. We should be able to do that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:00 But instead it's like, well, clearly my job is better than yours. So I'm going to talk about the benefits. Yeah. What? Right. No. Mismatch. And goodbye.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And honestly, if you're listening to this and you feel like, I actually feel like I do that, then I think that it's like something to recognize. Because to your point, a lot of these toxic qual, I'm saying toxic, but like just an umbrella of ways of reacting and relationships that are. not necessarily helping or positive for the relationship, a lot of them don't come from like trying to be evil. No. A lot of them come from like being like so wrapped up in your own defenses that you don't even
Starting point is 00:39:41 see or realize what you're doing is harmful and not helping the relationship. And no one's perfect. Yeah. Just recognizing you're doing it is how you work through it. Exactly. And I've done this. I'm sure we've all done some extent of it. It's human to be defensive and try to reframe it because it's literally like a cycle.
Starting point is 00:39:58 thing to defend yourself. Right. It's so normal, but it doesn't mean you have to deal with it. And if it is you, then work on it. Yeah, absolutely. This next one needs a little work. Okay. Maybe a lot of work.
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Starting point is 00:40:47 Visit Chrysler.com to learn more. Chrysler is a registered trademark of S-C-A-U-S-L-L-C. Okay, number three for us here. coming from Am I the Asshole? It is titled, Am I the Asshole for calling my sister useless and telling her she has to start pulling her weight? I don't know about the second one, but the first one, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I, 33 female, have a sister, 23 female, named Hannah. I am a stay-at-home mom and I have three kids. I am in charge of 100% of the household duties while my husband takes care of the bills. Hannah met her husband, 30 male, when she was in college. They got married shortly after she graduated. Hannah is on the spectrum, gets overwhelmed very easily, and is a little slow. Because of this, her husband told her that if she doesn't want to work, she doesn't have to work, and he will take care of everything.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Hannah has never worked a day in her life. Her husband is a high earner and comes from a wealthy family so money isn't a problem for them. She also rarely cooks or cleans. The most she will do is load the dishwasher and put dirty clothes in the washing machine. The only thing Hannah does during the day is play with her four cats or read. She likes to knit too. Recently, we were at our parents' house for dinner. During the dinner, my mom would not stop gushing over how good my brother-in-law treats my sister.
Starting point is 00:42:13 She almost started crying because of how happy she was that my sister found someone who loves her and takes care of her. My mom even gave my brother-in-law a hug and thanked him for taking such good care of her. At the end of the dinner, my mom picked up my dad's plate, I picked up my husband's plate, and I was expecting my sister to pick up her husband's plate. But no, my brother-in-law picked up my sister's plate and told her to go relax, and when he's ready, they can head back home. She asked him to hurry, but don't rush because she is tired. He gave her a kiss and told her that he would be back in a minute. That didn't sit right with me. When I got done doing mine and my husband's dishes, I went to the living room and I saw my sister laying down on the couch. I went over to her and I told her that she should start
Starting point is 00:43:03 contributing more to her household or her husband will get tired of her. She seemed confused at first and I said to her that no man wants a useless wife. Wow. Not true, by the way. There's lots of people out there that want to just princess treatment. My brother-in-law walked in on me saying this and got very mad. Yeah. He yelled at me that my sister isn't useless and worth isn't measured and how often she does the dishes. He called me bitter and told me that I was pathetic for talking to my sister that way. I love this guy. I love this guy. He thanked my parents for the lovely night and barged out of the house. My parents agreed with him and told me that I was being harsh and shouldn't intervene with my sister's marriage. They said that I should apologize to my sister and that I sound jealous of her.
Starting point is 00:43:59 You are. My husband told me I was right and that nobody but my brother-in-law would want to marry my sister and that she doesn't contribute anything to her household. Of course. He's like, keep working, bitch. Am I the asshole for trying to give my sister marriage advice? Such a big asshole, yes. Yeah, you're the asshole. If you actually cared, if you were actually like genuinely worried about her well-being and her like long-term happiness, this is not how you would have approached it. It is full speed jealousy. It's so obvious.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Don't even try to pretend it's not. Get in the kitchen and wash those ditches, bitch. Also, are you in their house every day? Are you watching what she does every day? Maybe she is being a homemaker. Maybe she is doing more than just throwing laundry in the washing machine and loading the dishwasher. It's also just so funny. It's like every relationship is going to work a little bit differently. Surprise. It's like, you know, like if they're happy, they're happy. Why are you trying to intervene? It's so, It's not your marriage. Yeah. If that's working for them. Yeah. Leave it.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Are you unhappy with your dynamic? Clearly. Like what? Like why feel the need? Who cares? It is jealousy. Yes. It is jealousy that she can get by knitting and...
Starting point is 00:45:25 Hang out of her cats. She has a great life. Playing with her four cats and reading. I'm like, sign me the fuck up for what Hannah's got. Okay, let's go. Like, it is interesting that you feel the need to intervene. and say something, no one likes a useless wife. So messed up.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Clearly not useless. Clearly, their dynamic is working. I mean, even as the husband said, like, your worth isn't measured by how many dishes you do. No. You don't know their dynamic. And maybe he really values that he can come home and vent about his day. And that is his sounding board and she's supportive. And they have this amazing emotional mental relationship.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And maybe it's just physical. I don't know. But it doesn't matter because it's working for them. Yeah. And my, okay, to build off of that, I actually, my brother was dating someone once who made us breakfast. I thought it was so nice. So I wanted to, I started doing the dishes without even her, like, without even asking. And she was like, oh, no, no, no, no, please, please. And I was like, no, let me. And she was, no, you don't understand. Like, it's, it's therapeutic to me. Like, I feel like it's meditative to me to be able to do the dishes. Like, I zone out and it's,
Starting point is 00:46:34 I really like it. And I'm like, oh, okay. Well, then go. off, sis, you know. So it's just like, if you see people that are happy, then why are you trying to interview? It's because you're jealous. Like, you're just jealous, you know. It's totally what it is. Yeah. And, and you know it's jealousy because if you were really worried, you would never call anybody useless. I've, like, had somebody say this to me as a joke before, and I got very, that you're useless? Worthless. And I got very serious because we had a playful relationship where, like her and I would like you know mess with each other but I was like don't ever call me that I just think to ever call worthless yes to ever call somebody worthless or useless I just think that those
Starting point is 00:47:17 words are so that's those are not those are not words that you should be using towards a person I'm sorry so completely and utterly degrading and in it's almost like inhumane it's worthless yeah so I just yeah so again I I am like very opposed to everything that OPEs throwing down right now. Can we give a little round of applause for the brother-in-law? Yes. Yes. We love you.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yes. I love that energy. We honestly just sighed in a very similar sounding way. It's just so refreshing. Obviously the comments, they agree. Love to hear it. Overall vote on the post was asshole. Top comment based on ordering in the default way top. Her husband cleared her plate from the table once. So she is useless and unworthy. Obviously, you're the asshole. Your brother-in-law and parents are right. And your husband either
Starting point is 00:48:23 just doesn't want to argue with you or is also an asshole. But I think you were on the money where you're like, oh my God, yeah, she sucks. Keep doing what you're doing. Babe, you're doing great. Like, yeah. Like, even, even relationships where there's a stay-at-home parent and one person that goes to work, even in most, a lot of those dynamics, the person that works full-time still comes home and contributes and helps in some way. Yeah. So definitely. Yeah. I think I think the guy's got it made. Yeah. And he's like, let's not, let's not rock the boat. Uh-uh. You're doing great, sweetie. Yeah, exactly. So. So. someone does respond to that too and basically agrees and is like her husband pretty much seems to consider her a servant from the sound of it he makes messes and expects her to pick it up after him and has implied she's only worth marrying because she does the menial work taking care of him when he lounges about her sister might have been a person she could count on if she wishes to up and leave her husband but i bet that bridge is now well and truly toast in most households once he's home from work
Starting point is 00:49:30 and she has been working all day evening chores are split literally whatever saying. But nope, he gets to put in his eight hours a day and she works 24 and much harder too. And then picks up after him at her own parents' house. Sheesh. Next comment, you're the asshole. You and your husband both. Jealousy isn't a good look on anyone. Their relationship isn't any of your business and how dare you try to speak for her husband and stir up trouble? Yeah, wild. Quote, that didn't sit right with me. Yeah. How dare her husband treat her so well? Everyone knows it's a woman's job to pick up the dishes, I roll. Yeah. She maybe could convince me that she had good intentions as she approached it and was
Starting point is 00:50:10 like, okay, I don't, I don't want to intervene, but I've heard of my girlfriend, her husband ended up leaving her because she didn't contribute. And I just, I just wanted to, I just want to make sure you stay happy. Then like, maybe I could be like, okay, maybe she had good intentions to still stay the fuck out of their business and still absolutely like not. No. But like, but like, There's no chance. You can't convince me any. No. No good intentions, all jealousy.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Even if you were concerned that maybe you want her to have a little financial independence. Right. Hey, just want to make sure you're good. Like, get a job part time. You know, you don't have kids. Right. Maybe put some money away just in case. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:54 But like, no, you're clearly not concerned if you're calling her useless. I took problem with that. I do too. Why? Because she's just... Oh. Sorry. What? No, I meant I took problem with her calling her useless, too, is what I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Oh, my God. Oh, Pete. Grow up, my girl. Grow up. Oh, moving along to this next one. This person also has a lot of growing up to do. I do have a trigger warning on this story. It does contain mentions of EDs. So please listen with care, or if you can't handle that today, just skip to the next one. So this is coming from R slash, Am I Overreacting? It's titled, Am I Overreacting? My mom wants to wear my prom dress to my wedding. My mom has lost a lot of weight, and I'm very proud of her.
Starting point is 00:51:50 That said, she is trying to fit into my prom dress, which I wore when I was my skinniest. My mom has always been very negative about my weight and her own. Every time I'm around her, she makes me either weigh myself or tell her how much I weigh. She tells me I need to lose weight and always talks about how beautiful I used to be when I could fit into that prom dress. I'm planning my wedding, and of course, she has to be in charge of every detail, but she mainly wants me to lose weight. My fiance and I made a pact to lose weight before the wedding because of photos, and we want to look and feel our best. Thankfully, my fiancé makes me feel good when he talks about weight loss and actually motivates me. So that's a bit of the backstory for you.
Starting point is 00:52:39 My mom called me the other day and said, I'm going to lose enough weight to wear your prom dress to your wedding. Now, this prom dress is very special to me. It represents when I was my skinniest, but I also had an eating disorder and was very depressed. I love this prom dress and have always been compared to the photos of me in this. dress. The part where I ask if I'm overreacting is when I freaked out when she told me she wanted to wear the dress, and I told her she wouldn't be allowed at the wedding if she wore my dress. That dress represents my past, and I don't want it brought into my future. I told her she couldn't wear the
Starting point is 00:53:18 dress, and now she doesn't want to help to pay for the wedding. She said, I'm not going to look good in a wedding dress anyways if I don't get down to the size where I can wear that dress again. Evil. I feel like she told me she wanted to wear the dress in order to get some reaction. So Reddit, am I overreacting? Also, everybody coming to my wedding has seen those photos of me in the dress and has compared me then to now. Pictures of the dress attached.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah, no, this is awful. Oh my gosh. Yeah, no, you picked a, this is a good story for this theme. This is, this is, this is an op. This big, big, big op. Big op. Who wants so badly to be little, but she's a big op. Big off.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Sorry, that's a bad joke. No, I, I, sorry. Big op. I would be distraught. And I think it's really hard. Like, I grew up with this in high school where my mom was very, very, very concerned with weight, always talking about weight. And I think there's something, maybe it's a generational thing. Because my mom, you know, I think, you know, maybe Justin's mom and other people I know in that
Starting point is 00:54:36 generation, there is a lot of talk of weight. There was a lot of pressure to be this model or whatever. Like I think the media, and even now, I mean, we're getting back to a point now where it's like, there's a lot of people that struggle with eating disorders and these things. And so it's like, it's very, very hard. But when you have your mom who's like weighing you as an adult woman, there's no mention of age. But like, you're not in high school anymore. You're getting married. So, like, you're an adult woman.
Starting point is 00:55:06 And your mom is like, you need to step on the scale or tell me how much you weigh. It's really awful. This is a very, very, very unhealthy relationship. And you don't deserve this. And your mom being like, I'm going to wear your prom dress. What the fuck? And it's also, you know what? what my brain was thinking this entire time is that, like, mom would flaunt around the wedding
Starting point is 00:55:29 and tried to, I don't want to say, steal the show and be really dramatic. It feels like that's what she's trying to do, though. But definitely, like, take some of the thunder away from the bride being like, look at me, I'm in her old prom dress. The one that she can't fit in anymore. Look how small I am, aren't you impressed? That's 100% what this is about. And then it's like, it's also stealing the spotlight, but I'm just,
Starting point is 00:55:53 also being like, fuck you, daughter. Yeah. Fuck you. See this dress? You can't fit in it, but I can't. Like, it's bringing the issue or just the concept because it's not really an issue for OPE. OPE is like, I'm motivated to work out with my fiance because we just want to be
Starting point is 00:56:11 healthier or whatever. Like, he motivates me. Yeah. That's amazing. Do it for you because it makes you feel good. Right. Not anyone else. Not because you've been shamed. Not because your mom is giving you a complex. No. But the way in which this mom is handling this and then the manipulation of it where it's like, I'm not paying for your wedding. And fuck you. You're not going to be able to fit in that dress. And you won't look good in a wedding
Starting point is 00:56:33 dress if you're not that size. Like it's so bad. It just, it makes me want to call my mom and say thank you for never doing it. Like my mom has never done like anything remotely. I don't know. And I'm just like all of our parents like we, they all, no one's very nice. perfect right yeah but it's like I just think like I I don't know I just have like a lot of gratitude around that because I can't imagine like growing up having to experience that and again a lot of it too is like you know people like to say like it's our parents first time living too and X Y Z but like this is such a clear case of the mom having these issues that are being so deeply projected onto her child in a way that is so harmful and so unsupportive and so mean and I just think it just it just it it pains me to hear stuff like this. And I will say my mom has stopped. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was definitely, it was definitely like a high school college thing.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And then I really, like, enough was enough. I was like, I laid down the hammer and like set the boundary. And I was like, you cannot bring this up with me anymore. Yeah. It is not healthy. Right. It is not okay. And she has never mentioned it since.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Did not mention it with wedding dress shopping. This mom for sure would and probably did. Like every single dress she was like, you look beautiful. Yeah. Like and I think it's hard for me because like I think a lot of people go through wedding stuff where they're like, I'm going to be my my thinnest. And it's like, why do we do that to ourselves? Like that was not me. I literally didn't.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I never did a wedding dress diet. I never did that shit. I was like, I'm just going to be me and it is what it is. Yeah. But I just, I don't know why we put that pressure on ourselves and we don't need to like do what makes you feel. feel good on your day and it's your day. That's like, just be happy and have fun. That's all that matters.
Starting point is 00:58:29 But let's get into these pictures, okay? So this is O.P. In her prom dress. It is a super cute pink floral dress where like the top is a floral lace with like a nude under and the skirt is just a solid pink skirt. A cute prom dress. Very prom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I would say this is not even a mother of the bride dress. No. Like, this is very clearly a prom dress. Yeah. To the point where, like, I feel like mom was just trying to egg her on and fuck with her. Yeah. I almost wonder, not that I'd think O.P. should take the risk given the mom. But I almost wonder if O.P. was like, okay, you can wear it.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Wear it. I wonder if she actually would because it's, I think she would. Because I think that would be, yeah, I think that O.P.'s mom wants, has this vision in her head of all the guests coming and seeing her and being like, oh my God, you are like, you look great. And then her being like, yeah, believe or not, this is her prom dress from 10 years ago. But what she, she herself has to change her body to fit in the dress still. I don't know. It's interesting. I'm like, I kind of want to call her on the bluff. But I wouldn't. take the risk because I also think there's bigger issues that this is highlighting where I think this is a great opportunity to set
Starting point is 01:00:00 boundaries with your mom and it's clear the mom is projecting insecurities onto the daughter creating issues. Absolutely. But this is your chance to set the boundary and if it's not received then you do have to make the tough choice of going low contact, maybe going no contact, maybe not getting
Starting point is 01:00:16 financial support for your wedding and that sucks. Absolutely sucks. But you've kind of proven by this situation that it's not healthy. And why give your mom any satisfaction? Like, it's not, this is so toxic. Yeah. I also just think, like, unless somebody is asking something inappropriate on their wedding,
Starting point is 01:00:43 you should just overall respect what somebody, the attire that somebody requests on their wedding day. I just think that's a really simple one that's just kind of. to like, don't wear white. Don't wear my prom dress. Like, add to the list. Like, you know, some people ask people, you know, like things like, you know, get a professional makeup artist to like cover up any tattoo because you're in my wedding party. And like, that can be a little, that can be a little aggressive. Die your hair. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, I think that there's, you know, obviously requests for weddings that get out of hand and are asking to someone to curate them, who they are, to your aesthetic, which is weird.
Starting point is 01:01:25 But I think when it comes to things like clothes for the mom to not have respect there, that would really piss me off no matter what it was. It's also insane. Like you're trying to wear a dress that she wore as a child. Yeah. She was a teenager going to prom. Like, you're trying to wear a dress for a child. Like, that's why I'm saying, like, I do think the prom dress is inappropriate because
Starting point is 01:01:45 it's not mature for a mother of the bride. This is a prom dress. A teenager wore this. It would only be cool if they both, like, were like, he-he-he-both down. You know? It's so goofy. It's the weirdest thing to, like, to die on that hill. What?
Starting point is 01:02:04 It's the weirdest thing. Clearly not overreacting. And the top comment says that. Not overreacting. I'd rather have the cheapest wedding in the world than let my mother do this. Make it very clear. Take the dress and hide it. And for God's sake, don't listen to her comments about your weight.
Starting point is 01:02:22 It sounds like you found a decent man. Listen to him. In fact, tell her that if she mentions your weight for the wedding one more time, she's going to be seated at the furthest table from yours. Maybe she'll check her attitude. Next comment down, literally rent a tiny storage locker just for the dress so you know where it is, O.P., fucking unhinged. You also might want to just unadvite her. Sounds like she would cause drama and make you feel fat, no matter how much weight you lose, choose you. Yeah. Someone responds to that.
Starting point is 01:02:55 If it were me, I would just sell it or burn it or something. Break the cycle. Definitely. Definitely. Honestly. Next comment down. 8K up votes. First comment had 4.2K up votes.
Starting point is 01:03:09 This comment has almost 8K upvotes. 47 this awards. Not overreacting. Your wedding is about you and your husband. Not anyone's hangups about their body. Yeah. There's someone that responds to that and says, O.P.'s quote, I'm planning my wedding and of course she has to be in charge of every detail. No, she fucking does not.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Like, you can choose, I know it doesn't feel like it, but you can choose how your life plays out. Is it going to be hard to cut a family member off? Yeah. Yeah. But it's your life. Yeah. Like what's going to feel better? readying a family member off or being tormented by them every day, forever. You know, there's something that I had this late night thought. I'm sure there's probably like a forum about this already, but for me it was an original
Starting point is 01:04:07 thought. But I was having a really hard time making a decision and it was about relationships and relationships in your life and people that you love and care about and everything. But ultimately it had been something in my, I was thinking about for so long that I kind of made this decision where I was like, this is a mistake that I need to make. And that gave myself this permission to do what I was really, really scared to do, which setting boundaries with a parent is very scary. And I think that we are always trying to make the best decision, the right. decision and a lot of us can get hung up on that. And for me to just say, like, this is a mistake that I need to make gave me this type of freedom that I hadn't, I didn't really, I have before
Starting point is 01:05:02 when making decisions. I gave myself the grace that like maybe this isn't the best decision, but it's something I need to try because this isn't working right now and I don't feel good. And it was really, really, really helpful. It was really helpful. Yeah, that's beautiful. And I think that, um, I think that, um, I'm, I don't know who else needs to hear it, but if you do, just I think that really helped me telling myself that it's okay if you make a decision that might be a mistake. But like if you know that you are constantly dealing with something like this in a relationship where, you know, your mom is traumatizing you. Then it's like it's okay to set a boundary with her and it not go
Starting point is 01:05:42 the way that you might think it will go. And it's okay to figure it out from there. But if you, You have to kind of push yourself outside of your comfort zone to make decisions that are very, very scary in order to find the best version of yourself and find the best life for yourself. So that's just what I'll leave you all with. I appreciate that. Yeah. So we do get a little bit of an edit from O.P. In the comments. Hey, guys, O.P here.
Starting point is 01:06:14 I forgot to mention some things. First, the reason she's, quote, paying for my wedding is because it's my money. She charged me rent because I lived with my parents for six years while dealing with mental health issues. They have over $20,000 from me paying them and they said it will be used for my wedding. Wow. That is why I want her to pay for it. Because I want her to stop having the money and holding it over my head. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Second, I'm scared to go no contact. I don't even know how to go about it. I'm scared of my mom, and she has a lot of control over me. I also don't want to lose my dad in the process. He's the only person who seems to care about me, and he's actually been a good person in my life. Everyone on my mom's side is just like her, though, so I don't think I would mind going no contact with them. Third, sadly, my future mother-in-law passed away when my fiancee was young, so I have no motherly figure to look up to. Fourth, I honestly didn't know she. She had my prom dress, and I don't know where it is. I could find it if I was alone in her house to look around.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Honestly, I don't know what to do. There's always going to be a lot of fear with these type of things. And with your dad, that's a real concern and that is a real possibility. But I think that you have to have also faith in the world and the universe that, one, your dad is still going to make it work because he loves you. And two, if he can't figure it out, then there's other people in this world that will give you more love, that will make you feel more safe and more whole. And to, you know, try to balance on this tightrope in order to just continue to receive and give love is going to burn you out so bad. And at some point, like, you just won't be able to keep it up. And so it almost is like,
Starting point is 01:08:15 if you attempt this now and try to do it in a way that is, you know, not like scorched earth. But I think that, you know, it will fall into place in the way that it should. And I think that dad, if you guys have a strong relationship, he'll pull through. And then if not, he shows his true colors. And it's like, damn, I don't need you either. Sorry, that might have summed up to be a little too simplistic. I genuinely think that's like kind of the only way forward. And I know $20,000 is a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:08:49 That is that is life-changing money. Life-changing money. But honestly, I don't even know if they have that money anymore. But it's also just like a, it's a mine trick. No, it is. It's manipulation. I would look at it like as you paid rent in a certain place and we, a lot of us are paying rent and I don't get my rent money back. And I would just look at that and try to like take it away from because they are pulling the strings.
Starting point is 01:09:17 They are holding this over you. No, and they will forever until you say, hey, I see those strings. Snip, snip, snip. They're cut. Yeah. Keep the 20K. Yeah. I'm going to keep it.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Yeah. Because I think I can't imagine. It's like, okay, 20K is a lot of money, a lot of money. I don't even know if they have it. They could have spent it. And this is her reason to sabotage because she doesn't want to pay for your wedding because guess what? she doesn't even have that money anymore. And maybe they do, but I just think that O.P.
Starting point is 01:09:46 should really reframe it and think about it as like, I paid rent. And think of that just as an entity that you pay rent to like if you were to lease from somewhere else and just be like, that was money that, you know, I was planning on paying because I was paying rent. And think about it that way because I do think there's this like mental trick where it's just like, that's my money. That was promised to me. But like, they're manipulating. They're using it as a manipulation. And this happens all the time, especially in like families that are really wealthy. Like there's a lot of strings being pulled in order to keep the children the way you want them to be.
Starting point is 01:10:21 And so I think it is this mind game. And it's just helpful for people if they can really detach from that. I know it's hard. I can only imagine hard. It is. It's so it's all of this. Emotionally, mentally, financially, maybe physically. I don't, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:34 It's just like it's so hard to pull away. But I think you can and you deserve to and you deserve to be happy. not reminded about your weight all the time and you deserve an amazing wedding. So, hey, if your wedding looks a little different because that 20K doesn't exist, that's okay because it is going to feel lighter and better and more fun. Yeah. This post is only three days old. Oh, you don't have an update yet. Go and send OP some messages. I link all of these stories on the YouTube version. Go and send her a message if you have a Reddit account. Because I think as we've seen so much in a lot of these Reddit stories,
Starting point is 01:11:16 when you get uplifted by a community being like, you don't deserve that, that's okay. I had a mom like that. I did this. If you get those responses and that support, it becomes exponentially easier to then make the change. So go and send OPA a message. Give it that village.
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Starting point is 01:13:16 This is coming from our slash relationship advice titled, My Husband, 36 male, poops too much for me, 36 female, to feel comfortable having another baby with him. I'm sorry, what? I didn't think I would hear those words all in one sentence. Okay, so let's go. My husband and I have been married for seven years and together for 11. We have a three and a half year old.
Starting point is 01:13:43 We're having marriage issues for more reasons than I have character limit or time to write all down. In short, I feel he lacks a sense of responsibility and proactivity in our relationship. I've been harboring so much resentment, especially after our first baby. I'm in therapy to work through it myself. He has a bathroom habit where he poops every morning during our toddlers wake up, breakfast, and drop-off time. Oh, okay. This is different.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Every afternoon after lunch and every evening during bath and bedtime, which precludes him from the hardest and most demanding times of everything every day. Whoa, whoa. What a piece of shit. Each bathroom session is an hour long. Edit, maybe half-pooping, half-shower time.
Starting point is 01:14:40 time. I know he can change his timing, apparently on command, because when we need to be out and about, he somehow finds a way to do it earlier or later or just not go at all, though I don't know how much that affects him. I'm so annoyed. I'm so annoyed. We both work full time. I am 99% the one who wakes up with the baby and gets him ready for preschool. He may drive kiddo to school after I've readied him. And I'm the one to get baby bathed and ready for bed. most of the time, unless I wait for husband and baby goes to sleep usually later than what I'd prefer. He knows I've been delaying family planning because of his uncertainties around work, looking to change jobs for the last two years. Now he's finally stabilized in his new role,
Starting point is 01:15:29 and when I bring up the topic of another baby, he always says it depends on me. My son asks for a baby sister because all of his friends have baby sisters. His response is, it's a baby sister. His response is, depends on mommy. But it doesn't. The issues, lack of awareness and proactivity, and needing me to tell him to do everything, or else he just doesn't feel he needs to be involved or present, I have with him, from our first baby, is still unresolved. And I don't see how I can manage two kids while he's gone for the most busy times of each day. Yes, I also think about if I should even think about having another baby with him. I want to have two kids because we have limited family in the U.S. and I want to make sure my son has someone who is family when he gets older. Let's assume I want to keep
Starting point is 01:16:16 this relationship. Dot, dot, dot. No. I asked him to go to the doc and talk about his frequent bowel movements, and he said he did before, and it's normal. Okay, okay. I feel like he prioritizes himself and his needs before our families because he seems to be able to adjust when he goes, but as a default, he seemingly chooses the busiest times of the day to do it. When I ask him, point blank, how we're supposed to have a newborn when he's gone for three hours every day at the most critical times, he said that his parents can take care of the baby. His parents live two hours away. It's not a come over and help once in a while situation.
Starting point is 01:17:00 This is a multi-year, if not, lifelong, daily need that I require from him. and his first response is someone else can do it. I'm so uncomfortable. But I wanted him to see that this unavailability is a concern of mine and to actually put in some thought. I can't stop him from pooping. It's not like we have room or I have the will to house his mom for three years to make up for my husband's need to poop.
Starting point is 01:17:29 It's not like she wants to live with us for three years either. And this is just one specific concern. there are plenty of other concerns. Oh, God. I don't know how to talk about this concern without feeling dismissed, but also not making him feel like I won't let him poop. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I'm so uncomfortable right now because this is just so not. Okay. Okay. First of all, let's try this. Take out any form of entertainment and including his phone, goes in with no phone, no Apple Watch, nothing. See how long it takes him to poop. Oh, he's probably got an iPad in there.
Starting point is 01:18:15 For sure. And I would check under the sink. I would check behind the toilet. I would check in the toilet and make sure there's not an iPad in a plastic bag in the back of the toilet hiding. Good call. Good call. This man is choosing to be in the bathroom for three hours a day because he doesn't want to be a parent. Yes, exactly. He doesn't have to poop for three hours a day.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And if he does, he needs a colonoscopy. This is not normal. Exactly. And that's the thing is that like I maybe would have given a little bit of grace if he wouldn't have gone to the doctor. Him go to the doctor and being like they said it's normal. Not normal. Lies.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Not normal. Lies. Any doctor would be like colonoscopy stat, bro. Yeah, dude. Colonoscopy stat. Or it would have been like, yeah, I went to the doctor and I've got hemorrhoids. I've got this. I've got that.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Right. There would have been an answer. Right. It's normal. No, it's not. No chance. You're a literal. piece of poop.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Oh my gosh. Three hours every day. And conveniently during bedtime, wake up, drop off. He doesn't want to be a parent. Wow. Yeah. Why give him another reason to not be a parent? Why give him
Starting point is 01:19:22 a funkel? He wants to be a funcle. My parents will do it. Yeah. Your parents already raised you. They don't want to raise your kid too. Get real. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's brutal. And this is only one issue. The poop is only one issue. There's so many other issues. And that's, and that's, this poop thing is enough to be honest. Give your kid a sibling from another dude. Get divorced,
Starting point is 01:19:46 get remarried to someone that actually participates in your life and have a kid with them. That's what I was going to say. I was going to say, here's the plan. The plan. Okay. I love the plan. Let's lock in. Let's lock in. Lock in. Okay. First, lawyer, divorce. Yes. Boom. Love it. Get them out of there. Bye. Second. Date. Have fun. Explore. Get to know you. yourself. And then new man, supportive, loving, changes diapers all the time. You know why? And this is a true story. I know I have a friend who got a new man. And he was like, you did all the heavy lifting. And I'm going to change every single diaper. I will not let you change a single diaper. There's multiple people I know that never had to change their baby's diaper because the husband was like,
Starting point is 01:20:29 you're breastfeeding, you're doing so much. I got diapers. Yeah. And obviously like maybe one or two when the husband or partner or whatever was gone. But I literally think she's like, maybe I changed a month, like 30 days worth of days. Yeah, yeah, they're out there. So you're going to find one of those. You're going to bring them in. And like she said, you're going to have another kid, more family with the supportive. And then guess what? Every other week in custody, you get to drop your kid off and you get to go on a fun little date night with your man who's actually great. And everything's going to be wonderful. What happens if you had a work trip? Because she also says she works and is still doing 99% of the things.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Did I read that right? Yeah, we both work full time. I am 99% the one that does all the kid stuff. Yeah. Like what happens if you need to go on a work trip? What happens if you want to take a vacation with your girls? Like, what happens then? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Is he still this incapable and is hiding from your toddler in the bathroom for three hours while he gives the kid an iPad and hopes he doesn't choke on a cheerio? Like genuinely, what does he do? Yeah. I would disappear. Like, I would make it so he has to participate. And it's hard because at this point, it's like, do you even trust him to watch your kid? Yeah. Like, this is not a functional partnership.
Starting point is 01:21:42 No. No. This sucks. When was this written? Was this recent? So it's from March, 26. I've had it in a folder for ages. I have wanted to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:21:55 And I was saving it for a parenting theme. But then I had this theme pop up and I go, oh, my God, the poop guy. He's an op. O.P. is still active on Reddit posting in R slash nails three months ago. No updates? Was OPEs still with? Let me see. Hooper.
Starting point is 01:22:13 So we do get a bit of an update. I mean, O.P. is commenting so, so much. Like, I truly would not be able to get through all these comments unless we had a five-hour episode. Like, there's a lot of comments. Don't tell them. So someone asks here, what? many things does he do when he is working full-time and gone three hours a day, dodging parenting and partner duties, genuine question. OPE goes, it's not amazing, to be honest. Read to his son,
Starting point is 01:22:40 because before bedtime was 100% me, take him to bed and give him a bath, which was 100% me at one point, come downstairs on weekends before noon, take kiddo to school sometimes and feed him in the mornings because I was doing 100% of that before I snapped, play with kiddo while I cook, don't call me to ask when I'd be back, when I'm gone for an hour. Oh, no, no, no. He waters my plants. That wasn't asked. He thought I'd appreciate that. And I kind of do, except he barely wet the soil.
Starting point is 01:23:09 He does laundry more now, but I probably do half of the washing and drying. And I'm the one who puts everything away. His own accord, he feeds, and litter box pets does dishes, take out trash, does taxes, plan vacations, pay portion of the bills in charge of finance portfolios. That sounds like borderline, nothing still. That's, I mean, it's just not it's not it. We know that. Oh, P knows it too. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:23:36 So we do get like a kind of an update in the comments. I spoke to him again yesterday about how hurtful it was when I brought up my concerns and asked him for a plan and commitment and how his first instinct is someone else can do it. He insists he's in the right because other people's parents help out. Why can't I take help from other people? I can't seem to convince him that this is not a helping-out situation. It is a lifelong everyday issue of seemingly lack of awareness or willingness or accountability on his part. But he doesn't see it that way.
Starting point is 01:24:08 I'm also certain it's not because he's maliciously doing it. Like he actually 100% believes that this is a reasonable response and a great solution to my concern. Yes, his bowel movements are at these critical times, but to him, it's just whatever time is convenient for him. waking up after lunch and settling down after dinner and clean up at night. It just doesn't register to him that these times are more important than other times. He thinks he can still help after. Or if I needed him, I'd ask. To me, this is clearly weaponized incompetence.
Starting point is 01:24:41 There's no way. And O.P. said another comment. He's not pooping in public. So you tell me you had your morning coffee or you went to work and you didn't have to poop all day. You're conveniently waiting for after dinner, not even right when you walk in the house door. This is weaponized incompetence. Yeah. Because he doesn't want to parent.
Starting point is 01:24:57 And honestly, even if it's not, it's like some of the most dangerous people are people that really do feel, that really genuinely do think and feel in a way that is toxic, not positive, not healthy, not contributing. It's just, it doesn't really matter. And I know we talk about this a lot. And I like to dig in to try to figure out like what the intention is and where it's coming from because I do think sometimes I can help people. like deal with it and move on or or maybe potentially be able to make a change. But I think in this case, this feels like like so ingrained that it doesn't even matter whether he genuinely thinks it or he's being like the incompetence like and it doesn't matter. It's just like this is this is not, you want another kid.
Starting point is 01:25:46 We can hear that. And this is not someone that you trust to have another kid with. And so to do so, I think you're just going to go. to be locking into even more turmoil. Pain. Pain, pain, pain, pain, pain. So it's just... So much turmoil. You shouldn't have to beg your partner to... To show up. No. O.P. goes on to say, like, people ask why I stayed or how I didn't know. Was it different before? I'm an independent and capable person, in my opinion. His lackings didn't bother me as much before because I had my own
Starting point is 01:26:18 life that's completely separated from him when we were dating. And I know I can do stuff even if he doesn't know how. But marriage, having to manage a home together, make large decisions together, having kids, and sleep deprivation, it's just too much no matter how capable I am. I realized over time I do need his care and attention along with his help. But I've already built up resentment because I honestly didn't understand why I didn't come naturally to him as it did to me. And it's not going to. He's also been enabled now this long. You have a three and a half year old and he hasn't had to be a parent. He's not going to change. No. Unless you fucking leave him. And even then. And it's a long shot.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Goes on to say, like, we both have abandonment issues as children. Parents left us in relatives care for a few years, et cetera. Interesting that he'd then recommend his parents helping. I'm just tired and confused. I know him. He's not a bad guy, as in he's not actively malicious, but the end result is the same. Yeah. I'm sad, alone, disappointed, and hurt.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Yeah. I don't know how much longer I can last under this type of environment. On his side, I understand that he's feeling attacked, ashamed, unappreciated, like he's trying the best he can, and I don't see his efforts, I do. But the ROI of all of his efforts is too low, enough to get him to a baseline of common sense, and it took a decade to do even that. I'm exhausted. If anyone has additional thoughts outside of the extreme, I'd love to hear it. For my kiddo, I want to see it work out, obviously. for my sake, I want it to work out too.
Starting point is 01:27:52 But why does my relationship have to be so much harder? Like we are two waves who are crashing into each other and never in tune and never synced up. Like we share two languages. And I still can't get him to understand me. Yeah. I think, I mean, realistically, this is going to be a trap that you find yourself in your brain continuously unless you do make a change. And I do mean a drastic change. sorry because I know that you don't want, I know you don't want that. I know it just is hard and
Starting point is 01:28:24 scary and just so I get it. But I do think too, there's, there's always a chance you guys can get back together. Separate at the very least. Yeah. Separate. Move out. Co-parent and see if he can be a willing participant in your life. Yeah. Like he's not even a participant in your son's life. And it's like you saying like I obviously don't want to separate because of our kiddo. Your kid might have a more active and involved and amazing dad if you do separate. Right. And you deserve a partner. Like you're working full time and doing all the house stuff and parenting.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Like you deserve a partner who's going to split it with you 50-50. Yeah. And he could potentially move on remarry and find someone who doesn't work and wants to be a stay-at-home parent. And then there isn't this drastic. He's not enabled. Yeah. He's, which, again, not saying that O.P. did anything wrong at all. No. But, like, some people do. Like, they just, they lean so hard. And they, they, once they're enabled, it's like they're, they have a hard time kind of like fending for themselves.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Yeah. And so I agree with you. Like, it, it's like there's all the what ifs right now. You're thinking of all of the possible bad things. But what about all the good things. And if you, and if you feel like this now, it's going to. grow. And if he's not willing to really, really, really work on this and change, then your resentment's just going to grow. And you're just going to continue, like, maybe it'll be better for like a little bit, but you'll probably be right here down the road and asking yourself the same question. And so I, again, back to that like, just like a mistake that you need to make comment that I made, which maybe won't resonate with people, but did for me. But I think that it's just something where it's like,
Starting point is 01:30:14 separate, try that. Try it. And if you really think that it was a mistake, then you can deal with that and try to make it work. Yeah. And I think he would be very okay. If you were like, I made a mistake, let me move back in. Like, I'm pretty sure he'd be okay with that, given that this is his life. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:32 He's getting very pampered. Yeah. This post is now seven months old. I do think it is very real. O.P. is involved in R-slash-Nails subreddit. talking about different shapes, R-slash Hoyas, talking about plants and telling someone that is just aphids on their plant and giving them tips to rinse it with open water. It'll eradicate the pests.
Starting point is 01:31:00 So it is giving real account. I do see us getting an update. I hope for OP's sake, whatever path happens is just a more balanced, healthy, enjoyable one. Because this doesn't sound fun. No. O.P. You're out there listening. The best, OPE.
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Starting point is 01:32:59 This is coming from R slash relationships. It's titled, My 25 female, boyfriend, 24 male, got a fake number pretending to be my ex, just so he could talk to his ex-girlfriend. Okay, hold on, hold on, I'm not good at math. One more time. What? What? Sorry, if the title is confusing. I will explain best I can. I feel heard.
Starting point is 01:33:27 My boyfriend, Max, my ex-boyfriend James, my boyfriend Max's ex-girlfriend, Brooke. Two weeks ago, I received a text from an unknown number, claiming that they were my ex-boyfriend James. I believed it was James, as he did write a status on Facebook saying that he had a new number. It was just casual talk, how are things, how's your new boyfriend? I replied platonically and friendly, as we did end on good terms. My current boyfriend, Max, said, if I am talking to my ex, then he should be allowed to speak to his ex, Brooke.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Stop. I said, that's fine. You can speak to who you want, although you know. no, I won't like that. I wasn't happy because the only reason I ever stopped him talking to Brooke is because their messages were always flirty and she still sent him nudes. Oh my, I... Okay, doozy. Now I understand. So I asked my boyfriend to block her, and he did. But he said that he would talk to her anyways because I'm now speaking to James, my ex. This is insane. That was that. A few days later, Max went to make dinner, and I was in the bedroom. I was looking for some socks from Max's drawer, and I found a cheap mobile phone that I had never seen before. I looked on it, and it was the text that I sent to James. I was livid.
Starting point is 01:35:01 This is insane, you guys. Okay. He was pretending to be my ex-boyfriend? Yeah. I confronted Max. straight away and he admitted that he wanted to get back in touch with Brooke. And he thought if I spoke to my ex James, he could use that as an excuse to then be able to talk to Brooke. Just go back to Brooke, dude. Don't make this so complicated. I am pissed off. Jiminy Crickets. I'm really angry that he had to do this behind my back. I asked to see his messages between Brooke and they are all flirty and just borderline inappropriate. How old are these people again? 25, 24 boyfriend, X is 25, Brooke is 20.
Starting point is 01:35:49 It's all we got. Okay. TLDR, my boyfriend pretended to be my ex so he could speak to his ex. We live together and on a dog. Is this salvageable? Where do I go from here? Not salvageable.
Starting point is 01:36:03 You move out. You take the damn dog. Did you say that in your head when you read this one? No. Oh, that was great then. You just thought that on the fly? Yeah. I love that.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Thank you. Okay. It was great. Damn. That was such a, that was wonderful. I always, I'm a big fan of like calling back like 90s or early 2000 movies and just, yeah, that was. I know. I wish I could do a Jennifer Coolidge voice.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Like, that was pretty good. Oh, I wasn't trying to do her, but like I did envision her in my head. Like, yeah. Taking the dog or whatever she, like her voice is. Oh, iconic. Oh, God, yeah. I still need to watch White Lotus, but we're not going to detract because we really do need to unpack this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:50 He's a bit of a nut. It's so funny because he's like such a moron, but like his moron little mastermind. It's like, is it slightly impressive for a moron? Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. But no, no, I'm sorry. I usually do. try really hard to find the benefit of the doubt? Yeah. I can't. No. It's a no. It's a no for me.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I think what you said, perfect. Take the dog, leave. There's just no. The disrespect is so loud in so many ways and it's just like you know, you know you don't want to do that. You know that's not the love of your life. You know that is not your husband. That's not your future husband. Your future husband would never do that. Okay. You know that. Your future husband would not be dying to unblock his ex and text her flirty shit and get nudes. And be willing to deceive you, lie to you, like pull a fast one on you, like stalk your ex because clearly he's out there watching his Facebook too. Yeah. Like that's no. No, no, no, your future husband's not doing that. Also what's crazy is he texted her and was like, how's your new boyfriend? Basically like,
Starting point is 01:38:06 wanting to know what she thinks of him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's the T girl? How's that new boy? Yeah. Keep packing. Is it good? Like, are you having fun? Like, what? What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:19 He's very not confident. Has a wandering eye. And this just not, this ain't good. There's just too many betrayals that are just screaming. Why is he trying so hard to talk to his axe? There's so many red flags. I hid the red flags. I'm like, red flags aren't spooky, but they might be the spookiest of all.
Starting point is 01:38:40 I need a bouquet of them. You're good. You're good these days. Look at you. You're quick. You're very complimentative of me today. And I'm loving it. I'm not doing that much. You're doing great. I'm a big fan. You're doing great, sweetie. That was funny, though. I was thinking that too because I genuinely, like, I feel like I always forget about the red flags. And now they're not here. And I keep thinking, like, where do I grab the flag? And I normally don't. Anyway, so I'm like, now that it's gone. You want what you can't have sometimes, you know, gets the best of us. There is one of the top comments here. You have separate problems here.
Starting point is 01:39:14 A partner who is willing to tell really huge lies, impersonating someone else is a huge lie, and who tests you covertly. Yeah. Two, a partner who beam counts. What I'm allowed and what you're allowed must be exactly equal, regardless of context. And three, a partner who has flirty conversations with others.
Starting point is 01:39:35 I also like just back to this whole thing. with the bean counting, what I'm allowed and what you're allowed must be exactly equal. It's not equal because he's pretending to be your ex. You're not actually talking to your ex. You had to manipulate the situation and create a false narrative and lie to me just so you could talk to your ex. Wild. If you want to talk to her so bad, talk to her. Or just like break up with me and go be with her.
Starting point is 01:40:07 Yeah. he's a freak for sure. They go on to say deliberate premeditated planned lies is beyond the pale. Bean counting isn't going to age well. The wanting attention from others is kind of gross, but you could choose to overlook it and live with it or give him an outlet for it, some version of opening up the relationship. Up to you what you think.
Starting point is 01:40:28 However, the bean counting doesn't bode well for a negotiated solution. Someone else, what the fuck? That's so crazy. He's obviously super invested in getting those nudes. from his ex. So we do get an update. Thank you to all of those who answered and helped me think clearly about the situation. I broke up with him the same day I posted on Reddit.
Starting point is 01:40:52 That's my girl. I posted on Reddit and two hours after I ended it. He didn't take it too well, but I followed through and I left him. He didn't seem that bothered, to be honest. I bought my dog and all of the vet bills are under my name, so I legally own the dog. If he wants to take me to court for him, he can.
Starting point is 01:41:10 But I've looked into it and he won't win. About all of this situation, I'll never understand why he did what he did. Surely it would have been easier to just message Brooke behind my back to begin with, question mark. Instead, he went to extreme lengths. He wanted to be a free man, freely, freely messenger. My only guess is because he felt guilty for talking to his ex and wanted to make himself feel better. Yeah, no, yeah. It's a hilarious equation.
Starting point is 01:41:37 I don't know. None of it makes sense to me. I moved out of our home straight away and I lived with my parents while I looked for a property. I found a place and I'm moving in two weeks. So that's something. Anyways, thank you all for the support and advice. I must have looked crazy for posting first and not dumping, but I finally came to my senses. Thanks again, Reddit. No girlfriend, you did not look crazy. The thing is, is that when we're wrapped up in someone and something and living with them, it's like sometimes we really, we really do just got a blinders. You got blinders on. We do need a little bit of like reassurance and we got to like pull ourselves out. And that's why it's like, okay, we sit over here and we're not like cheering for every breakup. But at the same time, we're cheering for people finding the best version of themselves.
Starting point is 01:42:25 Yeah, you also have to realize with these Reddit stories, like you're typically hearing. some of the worst of the worst. Like no one not typically people don't go to Reddit saying oh my god my boyfriend's amazing. I was talking to my friends who like had like a couple of complaints about her partner and and I was like you should go to Reddit. Well I was just like I was like given the bars hell on Reddit. I was like he's doing pretty good. He's doing pretty good in comparison of the things I've heard. But no I know it's it's it's a no one's. perfect. No, but they're usually not this level of, that's, that's bad. That's bad. Yeah. And I do think that like, I totally understand people posting because it's like, we do get wrapped up in things. And
Starting point is 01:43:10 that becomes our life and our familiarity. And it's, it's really freaking hard to like leave. And it's really scary to consider a different option. And I think sometimes again, we just need that village of support. And if it comes from Reddit, there's, there's a lot of good people there that there are on the two-a-takes sub-reddit. Like, there's a lot of people that are like are there that are willing to help looking to help and like have your best interest which is just like these all anonymous people but I mean mostly but at the same time it's like you can kind of like feel more comfort in that and the fact that there's these people who don't know you or or anything about you to like have preconceived notions they just
Starting point is 01:43:49 no stake in the game unbiased just trying to be a good person and help advice yeah yeah no I love it I will say something that's like been sneaky amazing for me lately is the community on Patreon. Like I've always said the community on Patreon is so nice and supportive and yeah, yeah, yeah. But we have a couple different chats on Patreon and there's so many people that don't want to share their stuff on Reddit or like they post on Reddit and it gets taken down right away. And they'll post in the chat being like, you guys, am I overthinking this? Like, did I fuck up?
Starting point is 01:44:23 Like, am I wrong here? and everyone replies to them in the chat being like, no, girl, that's crazy. And so supportive. Yeah. And it feels, it feels really cool too because, like, a lot of people on Patreon have their profiles. You see pictures. And it really is this, like, special community.
Starting point is 01:44:40 And there's people that have been like, wait, you're in blank? I'm in blank. Let's meet up. So we have people making actual friends on Patreon too. We have people falling in love over this podcast. I know. Like the live shows. Which we should probably do one soon.
Starting point is 01:44:57 I know. I know the 4U Fest or whatever it was got canceled. It did? They got canceled. Why? They never made like a formal announcement and they said they would. Oh no. I know.
Starting point is 01:45:09 I know. I'm working with our Spotify family right now. We're definitely trying to put together something special for the holidays for you guys. Maybe a show sometime soon. I do want to go back on tour. I think just with life, though, and how. busy. I don't know if I can do a nationwide tour. So it might be like major cities to start. Yeah. And then see how how things go. But I do want to see you guys. I love, love, love meeting and
Starting point is 01:45:38 seeing you guys in person. It really like revitalizes me. Yeah. And like makes me have a passion again for like the show. Not that I don't on the daily, but it really just like makes it all feel so real and special. I've been meeting a lot of you in person lately. And I actually talk. took, like I keep a notes sheet now. I just started it where I've met people like I met Olivia at the Hollywood Bowl. I met Quinn at Northwood's Tap. Natalie, Miriam, Ryland, James, Ivy, Susan, and Abe at the state fair. I met Allison and Courtney at the MSP airport. I just met Faith. We met Faith at Home Goods. Faith. Faith. So I love when you guys say hi in person. It really, again, makes it feel real and just Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Special. And like we have this community. Like we're all in this together. Yeah. It's just so, it's so special. So that's cool. Say hi to us if you see us. I know you love it too.
Starting point is 01:46:32 You will always find me when I'm looking my worst. I know. Afterwards like when me working weren't at home goods, I was like, I've really got to start dressing better when I go. I was wearing like a white sports bra and a white tank top that like I was, I can't remember what I was doing. But I rubbed again something like black. So it just looked so dirty. Rung.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Grungy. The day before, that was like our second time at Home Goods in like two days. The day before we ran into someone we knew from college and I'm like, I look like a fucking wreck. Like what are we doing? So yeah, you, it's kind of like a calling beacon. If I look my worst, I will see you guys. You will find me. Yeah. You will find us. You probably do a double take because you're like, is that her? Oh my gosh. But say hi to us. Yeah, we love you guys. It makes us really happy for sure. Yeah. And hey, if you want that 10. hour episode. One million subscribers on YouTube before episode. I would say it has to be before episode like 298. So I have at least two weeks to put together 10 hours. I'm like obsessed with this. I just think that this is going to be so fun. Like they're genuinely going to do it because why like that's so fun.
Starting point is 01:47:42 I'm so scared. No, they're going to do it. They're going to make it happen. I believe in you guys. I thought editing the updates episode was bad. 10 hours of two out takes. It's going to be incredible. It's going to be incredible.
Starting point is 01:47:53 And I will say, I'll tell you right now. I'll even give you this. One million before episode 298. I will give you 10 hours of THT and every single story will have an update. Oh my God. Are you sure? Yeah. You're okay.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Uh-huh. Okay. Better get cracking, guys. Follow, subscribe. Yeah. And also plan your cross-country trip because you have now a podcast that you can listen to the entire way. I do think we mapped it out and I think it would release around like Christmas or New Year's. So it's like perfect for holiday travel.
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