Two Hot Takes - 29: Unhinged..

Episode Date: August 19, 2021

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-hosts Justin and Lauren. This is exactly what Lauren wanted.. the wild stories. THIS ONE GETS EMOTIONAL.. so excuse the raw edit and more of an inside look into our heart to heart true hard conversations. All reddit stories again on this one.. Lets just let them speak for themselves... As always your support is very appreciated: https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes Direct Inquiries: [e-mail]

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Welcome back to another episode of Two Hot Takes. I'm your host, Morgan. I'm Justin. And I'm Lauren. You've been asking for stories that fuck you up. You wanted crazy. You wanted out there. Who, you?

Yeah. Oh, I thought we were talking about the fan base. No, me, Lauren. I literally will listen to yours and Alejandro's, and I'm like, oh my God. And I'm in my car and I'm like, listen here, honey. Pretending I'm like, oh, Pete. You like getting the mild ones? Yeah.

But I mean, Lauren wants the hot seat. She wants, she wants the heat. Yeah. Just a little bit, but it's always funny because it's so much easier to form your thoughts about the stories when you're not like. Yeah. On the podcast. Yeah.

Everything seems to make sense because whenever I'm driving, sometimes I'll literally turn my radio off or my podcast off and I say my response out loud. And I'm like, wow, I nailed that one. Yeah. Even when it's the one you already were on, that you already responded to. I literally do the same thing. I think it's, it's crazy to you because I'll be listening to like an episode the morning it comes out just like kind of like proof checking again.

And I'll be like, wait, God, I should have said this right here. Like, ah, it would have been perfect. It would have been so good. Or like on YouTube, I like read the comments a lot on YouTube to like respond to people and like have conversations on there. And someone would be like, wait, what if he actually had the bag of IDs because it was something to do with sex trafficking. And I'm like, maybe he's not a murderer.

Maybe he's a sex trafficker. Like there's stuff you don't think about. And I'm like, a hundred percent. And my opinions change too. Yeah. Like the more I learn about some of these stories. Or like new information I get from people in the community, like engaging on, you know, whatever, I feel like I'm like, wait, okay, I'm more educated now.

Yeah. But then when we're, when then when we're on with your dad, it's, he'll be so adamant about a point and he'll keep bringing it up until we argue it until the very end. And then he'll be like, well, maybe it is that. I know he's just very, he's very positive, very just like full of wisdom. And I think that's like a great, um, like opposite of me, who I'm like, I'm, I kind of go the more pessimistic route with these people because I, I read too much on Reddit and I, I know you've seen some shit.

I've seen some shit. Um, so there's that. But these stories today, you want it fucking wild. And I hope I'm going to deliver because this episode theme is unhinged. Let's do it. Okay. Let's dive in. So I actually mentioned this story on all Honduras episode, the mother-in-law's and

mom's episode, and I mentioned it in regards to a listener right in, and the listener was basically like my mother-in-law. We went to a wedding recently and she kept introducing us in a weird way. And she kept saying, this is my son. This is my daughter-in-law and this is my baby and kept pointing to her belly. And I was like, it sounded familiar to another Reddit story. So I went in my archives, dug it up. So that's the one that's up first, but I do want to say, you know, we had a lot

of positive comments on the YouTube that were like, maybe it's a cultural thing. Like maybe she's just being really nice, blah, blah, blah. So that being said, I get some mother-in-laws are very nice. And just very friendly, but this story is what gave me my uncomfy vibes and heebie-cheebies. Okay, ready? We're ready. Very ready.

My stepmom tried to walk out of my home with her baby and told me she doesn't need permission to leave with her baby. And it wasn't her baby. Oh, she married my dad when I was 15 and even though being 25 years age gap, she was more of an older sister and friend rather than a parent. We remained like this for a couple of years and I looked up to her a lot. Then the trouble started. I had only been with my boyfriend for two and a half years before I found

out I was pregnant. Not only were we happy, but my in-laws and my dad were happy for us as well. My stepmom wasn't the excuses started. I was too young. I wasn't married. This wasn't an environment for the baby to grow up in. She also wanted custody of our baby and wasn't happy when we told her we would be raising this baby.

This went on for a while. We were no contact with her for a month. That was when my dad fully spoke to her and let her know her actions and words need to be kept to themselves. We were adults. We could make our own decisions. She did apologize to us and promised to stop. We gave her another chance.

She had never done this before and she could have been afraid for us, but we told her that we would be fine and always had things planned out if things changed in a heartbeat. She seemed fine for a couple of weeks, but then behind my back, she was pushing my boyfriend to propose. By this point, we were at the start of quarantine. His parents were stuck at our house as they couldn't fly home. And my boyfriend eventually decided that instead of telling me this, he went to

his mom who always wore the family engagement ring and asked for it so he could propose. I caught on when mother-in-law accidentally let it slip. I sat my boyfriend down and told me that he knew we just had discussed marriage before and both agreed we were happy and how things were in our relationship at the moment. He agreed, but told me what my stepmom told him. I wasn't happy.

And after talking to my dad, she received a massive lecture from him. She called to apologize and to say she was just looking out for me. I told her, thank you, but we were fine. I definitely kept my guard up after that. We had our son in August and my dad and stepmom stood at the edge of our front porch while we stood by the front door so they could see him. My stepmom kept trying to come near the baby, which is where I would step back while my boyfriend would block her while my dad grabbed my stepmom.

She kept apologizing and saying she kept forgetting, but for a week after that, she was constantly texting me every day, wanting to see the baby. My dad eventually made her stop after I told him. And I think the context of this is like it was really, really early on in COVID. And so they wanted to like keep her and everyone else away from the baby. Yeah. Wait, and also I, I miss this. How old are they now?

There's been no mention of age so far. We saw her on Christmas. She wanted to constantly hold him, even went into his nursery as he slept and tried to pick him up as he slept. We always saw this on the monitors and yelled up the stairs for her to leave him. This led to a fight and she left with my dad. I know they had a massive fight because dad told me her reaction was something he had never seen.

She had a miscarriage before they met and her first marriage fell apart because of it. He thinks this has sparked up old memories for her. He promised to get her some help the moment he got back from his work trip. My boyfriend works with my dad, so he left too. I've been mostly alone with the baby all week. Yesterday, my stepmom wanted to come by to pick up something. I left her alone to get what she needed from my garage. I left my office door open while I worked and could see the baby who was on the

floor in the living area. My stepmom was taking forever, so I went to check on her. She wasn't out by her car, so I took the baby and looked around the house for her. I found her in my son's nursery packing up some of his clothes. I asked her what she was doing and she told me she was taking the baby for a couple of days. I told her she didn't ask for permission, nor was she taking him. That's when she got angry, looked straight at me and said, I don't need

permission to take my baby. I told her he wasn't her baby and she needed to leave or else I'd call the police. She continued to pack and ignored me. So I went to grab my phone. She then followed me down the stairs, screaming at me. She was leaving, but tried to grab my baby in the process. When she realized she wasn't going to get him, she screamed at me saying she only wanted to kiss him goodbye before leaving.

Okay. I told you're trying to kidnap a baby and then you're mad that they won't let you kiss goodbye. I told my boyfriend and dad, and I know things didn't go well for her and my dad, because she's now telling me that if I hadn't gotten pregnant, it wouldn't be causing problems in her marriage. Yeah, what is wrong with her? This is truly, this is mental illness.

To me, like when I first read this one, I'm like, this sounds like a serious episode of like psychosis. But how did this happen? Like she, I don't know. This, just out of, how did just that spark it? Like, how is there nothing else? I know, like, was there any other signs? It sounds like everyone was besties and then this happens.

It sounds like the start to a horror film, honestly. Yeah, it's just like coming in, like, this is my baby. Yeah, just packing everything up and running out. Did you guys watch Manifest? A little bit, yeah. Not fully through it. Oh, you have to get to the end. And this will spark some things for some people.

Oh, yeah, some crazy baby stealing happening. Yeah, I, I think, um, there's a couple more stories that we're going to read that are kind of similar to this, you guys. But I think there is just something that past traumas and like tension really comes up when people have babies. So, but it like completely took over her. She's like, she was on autopilot. She's really enveloped in this baby now.

Yeah, it's her baby. This is the story though. When I heard the one with Alejandra, I was like, oh, like, and a lot of people have written in since and been like, my parents, I live at home with my parents and they constantly call my baby their baby. And it's almost making me feel like my baby is my sibling. Oh my gosh. Like it's making me feel so weird and uncomfortable.

And I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah. Like language is just like so important. And it's like, oh, like my little grand baby, like it's just, well, it is kind of weird too, because I think about, um, I mean, my sister had my niece at a young age and said, and she ended up living with us for a little bit. And my mom absolutely was not like, this is my child or anything like that. Yeah.

But you know, my mom went into like her mom mode, you know, because that's what she's known for her past four kids. So like she would help out and be like very motherly, you know, to, that's a grandma role, but yeah, it is a grandma role, but we all live together. So I think it just like sometimes it was annoying to my sister because lines kind of blurred. Yeah. Cause it's like, okay, no, your place, grandma.

I got, I got this. Yeah. But yeah. I think that can get confusing when you do have a, um, a baby and you're living with your parents when they're so young, you know, cause the grandma is, it's like they go on to like this mode where they're like, I'm going to help and take care and all this. And like when they're all living together, then it can make the mother be like,

all right, let's, uh, chill out. Yeah. This is definitely not that rational grandparent stepping in behavior though. This is completely, I just, this mental illness. Like this is out of this world, not normal. Yeah. This is some crazy shit. Well, I had, I had this one thought while you were talking about this and I don't

know, I don't actually think this would be the case, but like in a crazy world, what if the stepmom was hooking up with the baby daddy? This doesn't come out of her. Yeah, but still you're not going to be like, this is mine. No, no, no, I know, but I'm saying, wait, it doesn't work like that. What? Um, no, but I'm just saying that like she could be so attached potentially to like the baby daddy that she was like, this should have been my baby kind of thing.

Update, update, update. No official update. I'll, um, I'll read the top comments and then I'll read some top comments or I'll read some comments from OP. So the top comment does not seem like rational behavior at all. Please have a talk with your support system and make sure they all understand that this is serious. You need to protect your family and her husband needs to get her medical attention.

That she so clearly needs be safe. Um, yeah, the dad is on the side because what, like, you know, sometimes no, you're lying and you're wrong. Gaslight, don't support, pick the wife's side. I completely agree. Like to have the dad be like, no, like get in line. This isn't normal. Like he's constantly reprimanding her.

I think it's very, very, very refreshing. Yeah, I agree. Um, next comment. Yikes, you may want to make a police report or have it documented in some way. She also probably should not be let around the baby at all under any circumstances. I'm so sorry. You're going through this very, very supportive. Like you might want to get a restraining order or your stepmom needs professional

help because yeah, this, it really does sound like her miscarriage seriously affected her and it's almost like some PTSD really like coming to light and being triggered. Um, so some comments from OP, I know I'm already talking to a lawyer and my in-laws have agreed to go with me to go to the police. I'll be doing that first thing in the morning. Uh, yeah. Well, at least she has all the support around her.

Yeah, but still it's just like forever now. You're just constantly thinking. Well, I have a feeling what's going to happen is they, their marriage might not work out. Yeah. It's just wild. But sorry, go on. Constantly thinking what, Justin. Oh, I don't know.

I just like initially when it, when she was first saying it, I just thought if it happened to me, if I'm in that situation, I almost think when she first says that, you're almost kind of like, huh, yeah, like, okay, nobody told me and you kind of think it's a joke or something. But then when she's like freaking out, then it becomes scary almost. And then it is the restraining order or, yeah, but it just sucks to even have to involve law enforcement into family matters. Like that is just so weird.

It's very common though. No, I know it is. It's so common. No, I'm not saying it's weird in the, like, overall, it's just, if you were in that situation, it just feels very weird to have to call the police on your mother-in-law and just go through that. Cause then forever that's just kind of a strained, weird relationship you have. It's not ideal.

And like my family has gone through some shit. Like my brother, one of the first times you met my brother, he talked about like a fight he'd gotten into with my other siblings, biological dad. And I don't think the cops ever called on that. And like my mom, I've witnessed some like abuse from partners with my mom and like the cops are never called on that, but like they definitely should have. So it's like, I wish they would have been. But even, even though they weren't, those things still last forever.

They do. Like that trauma sticks with you. It's obviously it's, it still affects me. It's shaped me. It shapes the way I look at relationships. And I think that's where a lot of my opinions come from. It's like witnessing trauma and experiencing trauma like that. I guess like, let's leave off.

Like there's been no updates on this lady. This post is seven months old. There was never an official update after. There's only comments on the account and no posts afterwards. So hope she's okay. Hope she's okay. Um, I would assume that it was handled very well. It sounds like she's got a great support system.

And I think it'll be okay for her. Yeah. Yeah, I would. Oh, sorry. No, I was just going to say, cause if, if there was some other crazy shit that went down, you'd think it would end up back on here. I'm really surprised she did not update because of the fact she was very responsive in the comments, but maybe like it is also hard.

Like once you get a lawyer involved, they don't want you speaking out. And I think a lot of people on Reddit don't update because of the seriousness of, you know, everything that's going on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would, cause my thought is that either the husband is going to help his wife, get some help, uh, or she'll help herself. I mean, it means, needs to obviously happen from her.

Um, and if she doesn't, the husband probably has no choice than to leave her. Yeah. And then if he leaves her, then is this woman really still going to be attached to her like ex step-daughters, baby stocking her. Yeah. Then it gets really, I mean, that would be really scary, but my, I feel like the fixation is almost because they are like so intertwined. Yeah.

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Wow. I'm telling you guys. Kidnapping babies is really common apparently. That's terrifying. Up first, the time my mom kidnapped our newborn is the title. To preface this, the incident happened exactly one year ago today. We are no contact with my parents and will be for the foreseeable future unless my mom gets therapy.

My doting wife and I are in therapy, but not so much because of the issues we have in our marriage, but because we both have shitty families and neither of us until meeting our therapist had strong spines. We are very low contact with wife's mother. She's more BEC than anything, but she also has some drug issues. She's dealing with namely an addiction to painkillers. What is BEC? There's a lot of terms on just no mother-in-law.

And here's where my Reddit expertise goes down. Um, let's Google it. Someone literally posted on just no mother-in-law and they go, what do all the acronyms mean? Question, exclamation, question, exclamation, just like down a line. Because I love like a lot of the subreddits when they, they abbreviate things like M-M-M-I-L, like mother-in-law, obviously abbreviate it great. But just no mother-in-law is like notorious for like creating these new fucking.

It's like the little text things. It's so annoying. So someone literally the top comment on this post. I've stopped coming here often because of all the damn acronyms. I hate acronyms. Mother-in-law is fine. I don't follow the stories that have a lot of acronyms. So funny.

It also probably takes more effort to think through what acronym it would be rather than just type it. So apparently BEC is like throughout this entire thread. And apparently it stands for bitch eating crackers. I was going to guess that. Basically a BEC moment or action is when the person you're talking about has gone so fed up that every little thing they do is annoying deservedly or not. So they're just like, they're on your nerve.

Got it, essentially. Okay, let's go back a year and a few days. Wife is do any second with our first child. My mom up to this point has been a bitch eating crackers, mostly little annoying things. However, she has also been patronizing of wife in the six years we were together, two years married. I've always shut that shit down, but I'll admit I should have gone low contact or no contact before this.

So the plan was to have both sets of parents to the hospital after the baby arrived and wife and I had time to bond. Her parents accepted that. My dad, who is an enabler was okay with that, but my mom was not. She demanded she be at the hospital. We told her no, she had to wait. Finally she said, okay, after she saw we wouldn't put our feet down. So the baby was born.

It's a boy. We hadn't found out. So it was a big surprise. Anyway, both sets of parents come, everything's good. Finally, wife is tired. So I walk my parents out. Hers had gone home. My dad went out to get the car.

I waited by the front door with mom. She turns to me and says that my dad and her are filing for custody of our baby. She claims my wife is on drugs like her mom. A lie. Wife doesn't even drink. And that she saw how wife was around the baby and she fears for his safety. I'm stunned. My dad pulls up and she gets in and leaves.

I go back upstairs and my wife sees my face. I really don't want to tell her, but I'm not going to lie to her. She's upset as I am. So I text my mom that she's not to contact us. I then block her number. My younger sister is blowing my phone up and I know it's my mom. I get along great with my little sister as does wife, but she was a minor at the time and lived with my folks.

We go home the next day. Wife had tearing and therefore needs meds. She refuses pain meds because of family history, but she says she will take Advil. So I go get some things at CBS. Wife and baby are sleeping. Him and his cot in line getting us dinner when wife calls hysterical. She woke up and no baby. Oh my God.

I run home and we are both a mess at this time. Then my neighbor comes over and she says, what's going on? She sees me running like my feet are on fire. So I tell her, she tells me, wait, so your parents weren't supposed to take the baby. Yep. My mom came and kidnapped my baby. Wow. I call the sheriff's office.

My best friend is a deputy there. As soon as I tell him and his partner what happened, they had to get our baby. Turns out my dad wasn't involved in the actual kidnapping, although I'm sure he knew about it. My mom knew at the time where we kept a spare key and let herself in. Both her and her FM were arrested because there wasn't a chance in hell we weren't pressing charges. The baby was returned to us and according to my friend, they had a nursery waiting.

Holy fucking shit. How did the fucking, what's wrong with the dad? He's an enabler. But what a psychopath. I don't care if you're an enabler. Like that's scary to me because this other woman, she probably has some like severe mental health issues. This dad seems like he's just like going along with the ride.

It's like just as bad as doing it. Yeah, it is. I think enabling in some cases is just as bad as actually doing it. Well, yeah, I think it's literally, if not even worse, because like, well, I'm, I'm pretending that the dad is a little bit more level and the mom is just like having some serious issues. So like, if that's the case, then like, how can you in your right fucking mind watch somebody kidnap someone else's baby and have a nursery ready?

A nursery. Oh my God. That's where the thing, the dad obviously knew the plan. Right. It was, she's rearranging a guest bedroom or whatever, an office for a fucking new baby. But how is that ever going to work? Oh, well, actually she could have said like, oh, I just want to make sure the baby

has a comfortable place to like stay. Yeah. And he might have been like, oh, my wife's being crazy. But because she said she was the big, was that right after she gave birth to the baby? Yeah. That is so crazy. I can't even imagine like being like after having birth, like having some psychopath

like say this shit to me. Right. But you have to be nuts to think that that's actually going to work. You're not going to end up with the kid. Yeah. What's the point? Unhinged. She's unhinged.

And that's the thing. Like you, her being like, oh, I saw how she was with the baby. I'm scared for his safety. She just pushed that thing out. Yeah, what? How can you say that? That little baby is probably just like, hold up in court. What do you mean?

Like all the doctors are around. Like she couldn't even abuse that baby if she desperately wanted to. You know what I mean? Like she's like, and also who knows how long her goddamn labor was. Like she was potentially pushing exhausted in labor forever. Like she's probably so tired and just wants to bond with her child and then sleep and then to have her mother-in-law come in and be like, yeah, well, you can go fuck yourself.

I'm going to take your baby. And you're just trying to like recover, recuperate. You're just trying to take a little Advil and relax. Wait, do we have the ages of everyone? No ages in this post. Oh my God. His username though, it is, um, not today Satan. I love that.

It is another horror film exorcism. I don't know. Justin, these ones might fuck you up more than Lauren. Oh, no, it doesn't like, I'm not afraid all that, but I'm just like, fuck. Can you imagine? Yeah, it's wild. Cause again, on the, like you have to, now you will not have these people in your life. No, if my mom tried to do this to me, I would kick her ass.

I'm picturing that. It's very interesting. I just can't imagine. I can't imagine any parent in my life doing that. I don't know. I mean, what if someone was normal forever and then it just happened. And they snapped. Yeah.

Well, like the one step mom, they had a good relationship until they got pregnant. It's like, ah, so he does go on to say my mom was sentenced, but because of her standing in the community, she was only given a slap on the wrist. However, the negative attention she got after that event spurred her and my dad to move. Thankfully, my sister turned 18 before then, and she stayed with us a few months before going a few states away to school for a long time. Both her and my dad were radio silent.

However, my mom has tried to reach out in the last few months. Thankfully, we've learned from this. We have cameras, a security system and no spare key outside. Our neighbor, who is now a great friend, has our spare key. We are three months along with our second child. I'm hoping my mom doesn't find out. Season two, neighbor steals baby. Oh my God.

I knew, like, God, can you imagine? I know you're no spare key, no spare key. I know that you're just, you've just had a kid. You're trying to get, you know, and that takes up crazy amounts of time and is very stressful in itself. But if I were this couple, I would also move. That's what I was thinking too. I wouldn't stay in the house.

I was surprised they stayed. I wouldn't, I don't know. I would just be out. Yeah. So this guy, neighbor has the key. He did move, actually, now that you mentioned that. I really trust the neighbors. And he moved to a gated community that has a security guard and has been made

aware of the mom. So no worry there. Wow. She's going to jump the bushes. Yeah. What's interesting though is the story I was between on this one. The title is mother-in-law basically kidnapped my baby. And it's very, very, very similar.

We had our daughter about four weeks ago. She's been over at least three days every week since we've had her. She's always telling me what I'm doing wrong and how she'd do things differently. Baby is up every two hours and she insists she'd sleep through the night. If she could stay at grandma's. Oh yeah. So what she did is they put the baby down to sleep. The two of them went to bed and they woke up, you know, four hours later and they

were like, the baby hasn't woken up yet. What, like, what is going on? The baby hasn't woken up. Did she die from SIDS because that's every, you know, I feel like that's, at least it would be my fear, but I feel like as a new mom, first time mom, it's a big part of like your fears is like SIDS. And so they go and check on the baby and it's gone. See, it turns out, turns out the mother-in-law stole the key, came in and took the baby.

Yeah. And these are the people you're trying to rely on to help you in these times of very much need where you just need an extra hour of sleep or you need a little help here. Can you watch the baby just help us out a little bit and then this shit happens? Do you know what makes me mad about stuff like this? Is that, and this could go for a lot of different situations, but this person was a mother once. Yeah.

And, and I'm just like, don't you put yourself in the shoes of when you were a brand new mother, if your mother-in-law or if your mother did this, like, like, because you were a mother, because you know how that feels, how do you think this is okay? I think they disassociate from their time as a mother and it's almost like there could be, I mean, there's so many reasons it could be. I think they're better than I feel like. I feel like they feel entitled to this child. I think maybe there's some mental health things where I want to do over.

I want this to be my baby. I see this as my baby. I'm, this is just me and I'm right. You're doing it wrong. I mean, Justin said, like how maybe you have all these crazy thoughts, but how do you think you're going to get away with that? Right. It's never going to happen.

Uh, unhinged. There's more kidnapping stories I found. I'll post the links on the YouTube description if you guys want to read them anyways, but I think, I think we're good on the, the kidnapping kid vibes, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, give us some more diversity. Yeah.

It sounds like all of these people got it figured out. Uh, luckily the update on the one where the mom stole the key and took the kid while they were sleeping. Um, they got it all sorted. I'll post that update. So not actual kidnapping, but this one's still a little dicey. Okay. The thought of my sons growing up without me inspired me to quit smoking.

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So can you for free and confidential help call 1-800-QUIT-NOW or visit waytoquit.org developed by CDC. Am I the asshole for refusing to attend my brother's wedding after my sister-in-law left my two month old on a park bench? Me and my sister-in-law have always been close. Her and my brother met when they were 15. I was 12 and I'm now 21. She was always really nice to me.

And we bonded over the fact that my parents don't like either of us. A few weeks ago, I got called into work and my sister-in-law said that I shouldn't waste money on a babysitter when I could just let them take her for a bit. My husband was also at work. I guess at some point she decided to take her and her dog for a walk. She says they were walking through the park and the leash slipped out of her hand without thinking. She put my daughter on a nearby bench.

She was in a little carrier and she ran after the dog. She didn't even catch the dog. And it wasn't until two hours later that she even realized that she was missing. Okay. When I came to pick up my daughter, she broke down and told me everything. I was livid, but I was so thankful no one kidnapped her. My husband was so mad he stormed down to their house just to yell at her.

She recently messaged me the details about her wedding. I told her I would not be attending. She called me sobbing, saying that I am a petty bitch and she wishes someone would have kidnapped my daughter. That's what that justifies the decision. Yeah, I was going to say like at first I could see just being like, forgive me, but making that comment, like, no, fuck you. That is fucked up.

I hung up on her and she apologized and said, she needs me there. My friends and family have called me saying I'm petty and that she was stressed and it was an accident. Am I the asshole? That's not an accident. That's not an accident at all. Baby, I love, love dogs, love animals, baby dog, two month old baby, dog. Yeah.

But even if you set the baby down and 10 seconds later, you're like, oh, okay. Did you say that she left the baby there for two hours? Two hours. Yeah. And she didn't find the dog. Didn't even get the dog. No, got so distracted by looking for the dog. Was she drunk?

Probably. Because of how? Oh my God. So do you want to know where this gets worse? Does it? True question. Can it get worse? It gets worse.

It gets worse. Let me find the comment from OP. So apparently like OP is again, very, this one is very, very responsive. She goes kidnapping is quite common in my area, but the park is sort of hidden. But still, like it's quite common in her area. Like that is a terrifying thought. Oh my God. That's so terrifying.

Yeah. Playing with fire. So someone comments and they go, yikes, what was she doing for two hours before she realized she left her on a bench looking for the dog the whole time? Question mark, not the asshole. And she goes, yeah, she said for about 40 minutes, she was looking for the dog. Then she told me she went shopping for clothes for my daughter. How can you buy clothes for someone and not realize they were supposed to be

with you for the last two hours? What happened to her? That's insane. That's not even just spacing out or forgetting. That's just, I don't even know what that is. Yeah, that is crazy. It's like memory loss. Seriously.

I, but the thing that the craziest thought to me about that is, is if I was the parent, I think about the fact that it's so frustrating that I, like when I misplaced my keys, I can't just like call my keys. I don't have like a tracker on them. I can't figure out where they are. If someone kidnapped your tiny little baby, you can't just like ping it. Oh no, you'd be fucked. Like what the fuck?

That was the most terrifying thing. The, I can't, I can't imagine. And like when you trust somebody to wash your baby, to leave them in a park by themselves for two hours, what if it was super sunny outside? That's what it was hot. Yeah. And this baby literally fucking died from the fucking elements. So scary.

Here I go swearing. I was doing so well. No, I fucking swear. But, but that's the thing. Didn't Boke say that he liked how much I swore. So that's the thing. It's like, what if this little baby two hours for a two month old, two months old, two month old babies are, they're so little.

They're so easily affected by heat and dehydration. So I'm curious if she realized and then went back to the park and found her there or if there's actually other people around. Cause if you, I mean, if any of us were walking around and you see just a random baby on a park bench, all of us would run up and be like, all right, what is going on here? And then you figure it out. So still, but how do you even figure that out?

You don't have like a name tag on a baby. You don't name me in. Well, still. I know, but it's just so crazy. The idea that like you lose a baby, it's like, how do people identify? It's just, at least, you know, that you have control of the situation in the sense that something terrible isn't going to happen. But this is just crazy.

Either the park is not very popular, but still even, you're just tempting disaster. Literally. Well, okay. The one thing that I will say is that so she went back and got the baby before they came home, right? Yeah. So yeah, so she, at least she admitted to it. And she didn't, she technically like didn't have to say anything.

Yeah, she did come clean. So that's where I'm like, okay, well, at least she's not. Yeah. So OP does go. That's admirable. No one picked, no one picked the baby up. No one sat with the baby. The baby was just sitting there for two hours.

And so OP goes, I'm sure that there were a few people in the two hours, but no one stopped to get her. That's crazy. If I saw an infant on a bench alone, I'd assume its mother was around the park somewhere, but I'd still keep an eye on it. Yeah. I think it's very strange how no one stopped to. And so she like comments a bunch.

And so, um, she basically says luckily it wasn't too hot, but she's a little sunburned on her arms. We've already taken her to the doctor slash hospital. They said we shouldn't worry too much. Um, and a lot of people are just kind of like, is your sister in law jealous of you getting all of this attention because you had a baby, it doesn't sound like it though. It doesn't sound like a jealousy thing.

I don't know. I just, cause if it was, why, like, why would that be a jealousy thing? I don't, like, I mean, she's getting married and, you know, she, her sister, future sister in law, you know, thinking, not thinking from the sister in law that left the baby's perspective. It's like, I'm getting married. I want the spotlight to be on me. So you think she just wanted the attention of being like, look what I did wrong.

Uh, no, but I think she like, I think when people are jealous and insecure of themselves, they self-sabotage or they try to hurt those individuals that they're jealous of. Um, for example, I read a story today about this individual who was insecure about their friend had felt threatened by this friend and during a test in school, she put laxatives in her drink and her sandwich at lunch to sabotage her friend from taking the test. And then if you go look at that person's profile, they also admit to crushing up sleeping pills and putting them in their friend's food.

Wow. I think there's unhinged people that need mental health help, but, but that's an intention, like that, like they had a result that they were looking for. Whereas this, I'm like, what result would she be looking for? Maybe she wanted the baby to get kidnapped. Maybe she wanted to hurt her in a way. Why wouldn't she just try again instead of telling them what she did? I mean, she left that child there for two hours and went shopping.

I know, but I'm just saying, like, why, why didn't she like, why would she tell? Oh, like, why first is actually acting it out again? Yeah. I don't know. So I'm like, I, like, I have no words for this one. I have no idea. It doesn't add up. Yeah.

Nothing about it. So weird. But the fact that when she was confronted by, I'm not going to come to your wedding. And she was like, yeah, I wish your baby would have been that. That is some crazy shit. Instead of being like, you know what, I'm really sorry. I understand. I'm hurt.

I want you there, but I understand. Like I say some things that I don't mean when I'm really hurt, but like to bring the baby in and say, I wish your baby got kidnapped. That is not, that is not okay. Yeah. That also, but that doesn't surprise me that much. I, and I'm not, I don't think leaving the baby there was malicious. I don't think that was, for me at least, I'm not seeing that as the intention.

I think it's just some person who is either very forgetful or just, just not all there to the point where you could forget that heavily. You're distracted by chasing a dog that you make a dumb choice and then realize it later, right? But even still, you could be that far removed where you're just like, just dumb. And then, then don't commit to watching a two month old baby. Yeah. Right.

But, but they also wouldn't be smart enough if they could make these dumb choices to make that decision on the front end. So yes, obviously going forward, no one's going to trust her with the baby, but I don't know. I just don't think she left the baby there on purpose. I, I, I truly, this one has me very baffled. Same. I don't want to like think she did it maliciously because how fucked up is that?

Yeah. When that end up, couldn't that end up being like some sort of crime? Yeah. I mean, I don't even know. I think, I, I think even now she could get charges pressed against her for neglect. Yeah. I was going to say even the, the one that you had with Alejandra, the story where like the, the grandma left the two year old.

I mean, there's reckless endangerment and there's, but it was like neglect too. Yeah. She just left the child to go do laundry. There's so many crazy laws that I, I mean, even lawyers don't know about. There's so many crazy laws and just specifics that you could probably press charges for, which she does mention in one of her comments. She gives like an update. She's like, I didn't think this post would really blow up.

They always say that I have agreed to go to the wedding. If my brother can sit, if my brother chooses to follow through with the wedding, my sister and I are trying to convince him to just reconsider the wedding and take a second to actually think about what's happening. I'm seriously thinking about getting the police involved. Yeah. But, so someone made a comment and this is why I'm like, I don't think there's any health issues involved.

Um, but someone made a comment. They're like, not the asshole, but have you talked to your brother about this? Was he not concerned that his fiance left his baby niece alone for two hours? Right. Also consider the fact that this isn't just your sister-in-law's wedding. It's your brother's wedding. So maybe if you want, you can just go in support of your brother, not your sister-in-law. If you don't feel comfortable with that, it's perfectly fine.

Because you are entitled to how you feel. And she goes, yeah, I talked to my brother and he excused it by saying, quote, she's got diagnosed high blood pressure. Me and my older sister are trying to talk to him about reconsidering the engagement. This is so far, just so unrelated. And yes, it is a tangent, but I feel like we, as people every day, make just stupid mistakes that are pretty forgetful. Like one time I went into Chipotle and left the keys in my car with my car running

the whole time I was in there, just not thinking. And I came out and I was like, how did this happen? Like how did I make this mistake? And you almost just, you don't even understand what happened. And I wasn't drunk. I wasn't anything. And so you just think like, and yes, a baby is a whole new ball game, but, but I think you can still make weird, forgetful mistakes, especially if you're,

it also isn't her kid too. So I can, I don't know. I don't know what I'm trying to say, but so I have the perfect thing. I mean, in the United States alone, the stats of babies dying in cars every year is horrendous. I mean, parents. And one of the most like tragic pictures I've ever seen on the internet was a parent who left his child in the car when he went into work, forgot to drop

the baby off at daycare and the baby died in the car. And it's just like forgetfulness. He typically didn't bring the baby to daycare. His wife did. So he forgot to drop the baby off. He deviated from his routine. It wasn't, you know, he was so locked in his patterns and his behavior. And it's like, you know, for the sister-in-law, she probably doesn't

watch the baby a lot. The baby's only two months old. So, you know, for her, her pattern and her routine is going to the park. Shit, her dog ran away. I got to think about the dog. And then it's like out of sight, out of mind. That's my thought. I think the confusing thing, cause all of this, I could see it happening.

The confusing thing to me is like, how do you just lose a dog? And you're like, hmm, I'm just going to go shopping now. Yeah. Did she find the dog? Like you said she didn't even find the dog. So like, I would think that if I lost my dog after 40 minutes of looking for my dog, I would be like, I'm going to start making posters. I'm going to go to like the police or like the vet or whatever I can do to

just like be like, Hey, this is a picture of my dog. Please, everyone look for this. Like the fact that like it was like 40 minutes and you're like, well, time to go shopping, that's where I'm kind of confused. She just seems off. Yeah. She's off. Yeah.

I looked through the comments. There's no mention of her even finding the dog. The only comment related to the dog was, yeah, she said she was looking for the dog for about 40 minutes. So no idea. Sounds like this one is still really developing. Very interesting. Yeah.

There's no official update yet. And the last comment was basically we're trying to get my brother to reconsider. I would say that that's kind of invasive. And I don't, you know, like if she genuinely, it was such an accident and she's so like remorseful, then like for you to be like trying to break up her marriage. But the fact that there's other stuff going on though, I'm sure this isn't the only thing I'm sure this is like, and the fact, and it's a huge thing too. So it's not a small thing.

Yeah. But like if it was genuinely such an accident, you know, but the fact that she said, I wish your baby would have gotten kidnapped. That's the one that sticks with me. I'm like, how could you say that to somebody? True. Bitch. Yeah.

So that's, and people lash out when they're embarrassed or hurt. Yeah. Again, I, you know, we all do it, but it's so easy to just rectify a situation or like the last thing you want to do is stir the boat more. The easiest way that you could rectify this is like, you know what? I'm really sorry I did this. I, I completely understand. Sorry.

What is stir the boat a phrase? Oh, it's stir the pot. Okay. Sorry going, but yeah, like you just got to smooth things over. It's like, I know I fucked up. I'm so sorry. I respect your decision. I'm going to give you your space versus I wish your daughter would have been kidnapped.

Yeah. That's fucked up. Like if she would have just been like, you're a petty bitch. Fine, whatever. She's mad. She's hurt. She feels embarrassed. She crossed the line with the other family on the wife's side.

My friends and family have called me saying I'm petty and that she was stressed. Why is the rest of the family on her side? Because we don't know what story she's telling. Probably the sister-in-law or all of them. We don't know what she's telling us is completely everything. Yeah, maybe they were all in on it. Just wild. Spear seas.

Let's not even go about that. Well, you guys love that. What was that? I don't know. I was trying to copy your go. And then it, it, it was like even more powerful than I thought. It sounded like an animated cartoon. It was out of control.

It literally sounds like it's outside of the headphone. Like I feel like it's all around us. OK, well, I'm going to take a little bathroom break. OK, same. I guess same. So up next, am I the asshole for not wanting to give my late husband's sperm to his parents? I'm sorry. I really tried to think of a less silly title.

When my husband was diagnosed with cancer, we froze his sperm so we could have children via insemination even after chemotherapy. His parents were very involved in his treatment and were aware that we were doing this. His treatment was unfortunately unsuccessful and he passed away on July 19th. His parents asked me if I was considering being inseminated with his sperm and I said, no, then they asked me if I could transfer ownership of the sperm to them so they could use it to have grandchildren. I assume they're planning on hiring a surrogate for this, but I'll admit I was so surprised

and confused. I didn't actually ask. My gut reaction was that this is wrong and exploitative and not what my husband would have wanted. We froze his sperm because we wanted to raise a family together and for reason, his sperm seems like a better option than adopting or using a sperm donor, not because he wanted to give his parents grandkids or just put his DNA out into the world for the sake of it.

I'm so confused about who they expect to raise this child or children as they're both in their sixties. The surrogate question mark, one of their nieces or nephews. My husband has no siblings and I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable doing it. It feels like they just want their bloodline to continue without any thought to the practicality of it. That's probably what it is. I'm actually kind of torn on this one.

I look at this and I really, to put this in a perspective, he died July 19th. This post was six days ago. So it was technically written on either July 31st or August 1st. There's only been about two weeks since this man's death. But I think that's part of it. I think his parents are mourning. So here's the thing. So if you look at the stages of grief, anger, bargaining, guilt, you know, all the stages

of grief, I think they're at the bargaining stage. I think they're at like, okay, he's gone, but what can I do to have a piece of him? Yeah. What, like, what can I do to bring him back? I think that's where they're at. But the thing is, is that like, if the child has a great home to be raised in, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I mean, the other thing she's going to do is just throw the sperm away.

So it's like, but the wrong part is that he never agreed to it. So it's like, if that would have been a conversation before he passed, there would be no, no question. But because it's like, without his consent, it feels really weird. It feels wrong, wrong. Well, and the wife, the wife is going to have the sense of, she's going to have more of the sense of what he would have wanted than the parents will. I agree with that.

If, like, honestly, if she's uncomfortable with it, that's her choice. But I think she would, at the end of the day, it almost feels like she should be the one making this choice. But then you also have to take into consideration that she's also mourning. So maybe the idea too of him having a child out there that's not with her is like horrible. You know, well, and I, I don't see this being a like logical thing. I think they were together. They were married in the reality that was their reality before he passed.

They were together. They either planned on having kids together or not at all. I, I do, I do think I, and this is a really, really hot take that people have. Like, I've seen on the internet and has like kind of been implanted in me now. It's like, you shouldn't have a kid because you're lonely. You shouldn't have a kid because you want to mini me. Like there's hot takes that people put out there where it's like, these are reasons why you shouldn't have a kid.

And it's like, for these grandparents, it's like, you shouldn't have a kid to try to bring your dead son back. Yeah, because what is that kid's life going to be? That kid's life is not going to know his parents and who's going to be the mom? Who are they going to get a donor egg that they don't know where it came from? And then implant that into a surrogate or like she said, maybe a niece. Like, what is this child's life going to look like? Yeah, it definitely like, if I had to pick, it doesn't feel right.

It really just doesn't feel right. But I mean, it's not, it's not so awful. Like if he were to, if they were to continue his DNA and, you know, they brought an amazing human into this world, like, I mean, once the human gets here, like everyone's going to be so happy and in love, like whoever the, like people are that are taking care of this child. But at the same time, like if this was never even an idea that floated through his head, then I don't, it just doesn't feel fair to him.

I'm kind of sad they mentioned the frozen sperm to his parents because if that would have just been a conversation between them, this dilemma wouldn't have even happened. Yeah. And I think honestly, should have been, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think they should have even like involved the parents and been like, yeah, we're freezing his sperm. Well, that's not even part of the treatment.

That's a decision. That's like a smart decision you make as a couple because you're going to go through this, this recovery process. Yeah. Well, I, um, I had a friend in high school that he got to secular cancer literally a year out of high school. And so I remember hearing about the fact that like they froze some sperm just in case and blah, blah, blah.

And like that's a decision you make as a couple, but like, I don't know. I, I've also seen a lot of posts on Reddit that are like, my husband is terminally ill and everyone's asking me if I'm going to get pregnant. And it's like, why? You're already dealing with the loss of somebody and then to come in and raise what would have been your child together would make it even that much harder. I think for a lot of people that's heartbreaking, but then I think there are some people that are like, I'm so thankful that I do have a piece of my

husband or my partner left. And this one is probably one of the tougher ones, like ethically, morally, that we've like really, I think what I would do if I was her is that I would just respond to the parents and being like, I'm mourning. I'm sure that you guys are mourning. And this is not a good time to have a conversation about that. Um, we can definitely talk about this, but not right now. I think we need to, this has been two weeks since he passed.

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like we need to, we need to heal more. Like we're in a really vulnerable moment, all of us. And we need to heal more before we have this conversation. And then at that point, like, you know, if the parents are like, have some really like compelling reason, if they're like, he always said that he wanted to pass, like, you know, whatever, like, what, and like, if they're really

so convincing that they're like, look at his diary as a kid. And this is what, I don't know, whatever, whatever converse. Yeah. I think the wife would probably knows. And I think the right answer is probably just no. But if there's some, you know, after they're not in the thick of mourning, if there's some really genuine reason where it makes sense, then they can decide. But right now I would be like, we all need space.

We all need to think about that. Yeah. And I think that's rational. Like you should not make any major life decisions after a great loss like this. But even still, let the dust settle. But I think if he didn't explicitly say anything about having a kid regardless if he's here or not, it goes away. So I got a lot of comments.

OP, like, I'm going to show you guys, this is a throwaway account. This is me scrolling to the bottom. And this is me scrolling all the way up to the top. OP comments extensively behind the scenes here, we just saw behind the curtain. I know with the style. So I'm going to try to like do them the best I can. I really want to do this one justice because I think this is like probably one of the hardest posts we've ever read.

And I want to just, I'm like, want to cry at this. Like this is probably for me. I just, I can't imagine losing your partner like this and having to deal with like his parents coming out of the woodwork two weeks later and being like, Hey, that's Berm. I just lost my son, but hey, that's Berm. Well, and it's, it's even sad enough to, to need to make the choice to free sperm in that situation because you know, there's a risk.

Yeah. And then to have it actually happen. It's just, I don't know. Yeah. There's one comment I want to start with. The comment I want to read is in reply to something else. So I kind of feel like I have to read the comment from an outside source first. So this person goes, damn, I don't even know what to judge this one.

I can see most sides since as of the moment, I haven't come to a definite decision that I can't expect to say if one of you is asshole over the other, not the asshole to start. I understand completely why you feel the way you do. And I'm terribly sorry for your loss. I have a couple of questions though. Did you and your husband actually decide what he wanted to do in this case? Or are you speculating, but obviously you have the authority now.

Are you keeping it from his parents because you feel they're yours and only yours. So no one else can have them. And you decided you won't use them. Deciding what someone else should be doing with their lives is not your right. So using that to justify not giving them it is sort of assholery in that case. They love their son, I'm presuming, and raising a child that shares their son's DNA while teaching the kid about his father and history doesn't seem so bad. The grandparents are assholes for not being as sensitive to you as they

should be by asking so soon. However, at the same time, if they're in their sixties, then they don't have much time to lose anyway. And they might be thinking that by you deciding against using them, you're going to move on from him somehow. Grief is weird. I think the priority is what would your husband want? But if you or them honestly don't know if you wanted to pass on his lineage or

whatever reason, then it's a me versus the in-laws question over what each party wants. And yes, legally you have the authority, of course, but being an asshole isn't only judged on legalities, the context is key. Again, sorry for your loss and all the added grief. So long-winded, great points. That was a pretty good post. It was very probing, which I appreciate because I think these are all questions that we just said, like, yeah, what would the husband really want?

So OP goes on to say, my aversion to their plan is due to what I know about why he wanted to freeze his sperm. He wanted to be a father, specifically he wanted to raise kids with me. I know it wasn't about just passing on his genes, because both adoption and sperm donors were also options we discussed, and he was fine with those possibilities. I just can't imagine he'd be comfortable with having a child with his DNA out there, who neither he nor I had any hand in raising. Yeah.

And on top of that too, like who he's mixing his DNA with, like not being able to decide that. Yeah. You know, like he didn't get to pick like, okay, if I die, like I would want my DNA to be passed down to this human or that human. It's just like bringing a child into this world is a serious decision. I don't, like I think, you know, unplanned pregnancies happen and everyone makes the best of that situation.

And obviously people are typically, I should say, are very happy to have a child, but he's gone. Like this autonomy and this decision is gone. So to just assume or to let his parents just take over the sperm and like not really know what's going to happen to it. I don't think it's, it definitely doesn't seem like it's what he would have wanted. Yeah. And I'm trying to put myself in the situation of him.

Like if I were to die and had like my eggs saved and whatever, would I be that mad if my parents decided to like pass down my DNA? I don't know. So it's so hard to say cause he's not here and like the decision is in him, you know, right? And it's, it's obviously not going to affect him in any way at this point. That's true. But you want to honor the person that everyone loves that had passed away.

So that's right. And my gut feeling, I still feel even a little bit weird about it. If they didn't have the explicit conversation, but I feel like it should be her or nobody. Exactly. I agree with that. I think where I'm getting really caught up with this one is I'm not so much concerned about the people that are trying to make this decision.

Like the grandparents, AKA like his parents and the wife, okay. Like, yeah, they're affected clearly. Like they're directly involved right now, but I look at this child and I don't know if this is from me having known people that are adopted and constantly feel this like burning, aching desire. Like, what about my birth mom? Like I love my parents that raised me, but what about my birth mom? Why did she give me up?

Right. There's something to be said about, you know, children that go through this experience of not knowing their birth parents who they feel a part of them is missing and there's a lot of trauma with that. I just look at this. I'm like, it's just such an unfair situation to bring a kid into for selfish reasons of my son is gone. I want a piece of my son.

It, to me, this seems so selfish and or continuing the lineage. Any reason that the grandparents have is to me is selfish because it's like, no matter what you do, your son is gone. Yeah. And I'm so sorry about that. And it's so tragic, but to bring a child into the world, to appease you. What? That is really an interesting concept to think about.

That's where I'm coming from. Are they, like who is raising them? Are they raising them? And if they are raising them, I have 60 year olds patients that die every day. What are you going to, what, where's this one year old going to go? Is family automatically going to take them on, take her, them on? Like what? I could have to be the mom or the wife.

I mean, but however I will say, um, I, I mean, even when people are adopted, like, and they were wondering about their birth parents, I think a part of that is because they know their birth parent is out there, you know, or they don't know anything about them or something like that. Like I think, I don't, I think it would be different if you're like, I know that my dad died and this was my situation, you know, um, because he, he would be able to learn about him. The grandparents are going to tell them all about him, you know?

Yeah. But I, um, but I guess like even still growing up and hearing about your dad and not having your dad. Oh, that's a, oh yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's traumatic either way. It's not an ideal situation. And I mean, the only thing I will say though is that with a lot of situations, it's not ideal. Like there's things from my childhood that I'm like, damn, like I could have

been like a cooler person if this didn't happen or whatever it is. And I, it's just like life is crazy. So I don't, I think more of this story is just really focusing on like the wife. Yeah. And like what she wants to decide and like if she thinks that that's kind of fucked up and crossing the line, she's not the asshole. Like it's not the asshole at all for this. And so with that being said, someone comments, I hope you decide to have his

child, I'd be the same. It's not theirs to use. And she goes, me carrying his child, isn't really on the table. Yeah. He's gone. Yeah. And I feel like for her, he's gone. There's no bringing him back.

Then the sperm should be gone. Done deal. I agree. I think he's gone as there's, he wanted to raise a kid with her. Yeah. It would be such a hard place to be put in though. Like I'm just picturing if I had people that loved the person that I loved like as, or like, you know, so strongly too.

And they were just so desperate. And I was the one who had to make the call to like break their heart. Like, and you know what I mean? Like I, I'm sure she's just feeling so crazy right now. Or like just so torn and like. One that's so fresh. Yeah. Two weeks, you guys.

Like again, like two weeks, she just lost her life partner, someone who she, they were actively planning to have a life and kids together. I can't even imagine like typing this all out and thinking coherently. Like, yeah, I feel like clarity will come with time. Yeah. I really do. Yeah. And again, it's been about two weeks, like sit on it, don't make any rash decisions.

Like I saw somewhere where you shouldn't make any major life changes for at least six to nine months after a death. Just don't give it to the parents. Yeah. No, it's, it's not theirs. And it's not what he, I really don't think that's what the husband would have wanted. And that's what I would just say. I'd be, I would literally be like, I don't like the fact that like this decision is put

in my hands because I don't like that I'm holding back something that you guys really want. However, I know it's not what he wants. Yeah. And if I thought even the slightest bit that it was what he would want, then this would be a different story, but I am so confident that it's not. So like, I don't want to feel like the villain here, but I am the one who is able to legally call the shots. And this is just what I think is right.

Exactly. Legality is also a very important point in this because depending on the paperwork that they filed when they did do the sperm donation slash saving it, depending on what state, apparently it's a big thing. So one of the top comments is not the asshole, though, the decision may not actually be yours to make anyways, if you contact the sperm bank where it's frozen, they may likely have procedures on what happens in the situations of the donor's death. There may be terms that he agreed to in the paperwork that may state ownership transfers

to yourself, or it may state that the sample is destroyed, contact them and see what they say. Though, if ownership is now yours, I don't blame you at all for saying no. OP replies, ownership is mine. And someone comments back, you are so selfish. And she goes for the legal ownership, passing to me after his death, question mark. And the person literally responds back, everything is me, me, me. Okay. This woman just lost her fucking husband.

Wow. This is where I get mad of people being able to be anonymous on the internet. Because what a goddamn troll, literally. Yeah. I think was that, I was saying this to you Morgan, right? We've talked about this a lot. Yeah, I think that it should be outlawed that people are able to just create all these different usernames and just be trolls on the internet.

Like, if you want to say what you want to say, then have a face and a name to it. You know, like, I think that's totally fine to express yourself and the freedom of speech and everything, but it is so, it's gotten so toxic and dangerous. The fact that people can just hide behind these, like, I love cutie pie, five, six, three and say evil things to people. Like that is so wrong. So I don't know. It says a lot about the people that do, do that.

Yeah, it says a lot that you feel like you, there's a reason you're hiding behind some fake little name. There's a reason. Yeah, there's clearly a reason. Yeah, you're a coward and they have nothing better to do. You're being cruel for the sake of being cruel because what is this going to get you? Who is this going to benefit? You are being cruel for whatever malicious reason that is.

Oh, they're just taking out whatever, like frustrations or whatever the fuck they have to everyone's fighting their own battles. And yeah, it could be, it could be an outlet. Um, wait, sorry, Morgan, could I interject for a second? Yeah. So I, I'm just thinking that, um, when you talked about the adoption thing and you're like, even like people like, you know, like are always wondering and stuff like that, I'm going to actually, what I was going to add to that is I was going

to say, Hey, I'm actually going to phone a friend for a part of this and I'm going to reach out to my roommate, Aaron Sella and have her interject on this story. But no, but like what I wanted to say is that because we're talking about like, should there be a child be brought into this world or not? Yeah. Then I think people who are adopted are going to be like, what? So I don't know who my parents are. And so I shouldn't have been brought into this world.

I just think they're going to make that parallel. Do you know what I'm saying? What do you think, Justin? I didn't get that much of a vibe because at the same time, when you're talking about like babies that weren't planned, it's like, that's what you say about yourself all the time. Oh, I am literally a, I am an oops, baby. 100%.

I'm too, actually. Well, actually my mom is, which makes me like technically one. I think it was super valid because my ex was, I think technically adopted, but she knew her biological dad, but didn't her biological mom at all or something. And I think everything she said was very on point with, with what she experienced and kind of that. So there was nothing that stuck out to me where I'm like, okay. That's fine.

I was just saying, because we're talking about the concept of bringing a life into the world or not. I'm just, I could see that people, like I could just see people making this parallel of being like, wait, so you don't think I should have been brought in the world just because of the fact I don't know who my parents are, my biological. Do you know what I'm saying? And we can, I think it would be a point to like, we can add this in, because I think this is very important to have.

I'm going off of like, I had a college roommate that was adopted and I've had all their friends that were adoptive and they're very, very happy they're there. Right. They're very thankful for their adoptive parents. They love their adoptive parents. They have a great relationship with them, but I've also heard the opposite where people's adoptive parents haven't been great, but from my experience, no matter how great the relationship is with the adoptive parents, my friends

that have been adoptive have always like had this yearning to find their birth mom or find their birth parents. And I just think it's like this kind of like, it's just this innate nature. It's like either whether it's like nowhere you come from, know who you are a part of, I don't know, I don't, I don't know personally, but I just think it's a conversation to be had. And I think I will include because I, in my head, when we were recording that segment, I was like, I'm going to send her the story and be like, Hey, I

know you're adoptive. I know you have a great relationship with your birth parents. I'll let Aaron tell it. If I'm like, I start crying. Oh, so it's so tough. Like this shit just fucking hits me, but I'll let Aaron tell it. If she's willing, um, but Aaron like kind of went through that experience. So we're going to phone a friend.

I know fuck. Well, I'd for sure have that. I would for sure have that yearning. Yeah, put yourself in that situation. You'd be like, and like I said, I, I didn't know a way like Morgan, I know your heart and I know everything you're saying. I totally was like on board with what you're saying. I just know that we get so sick of people like making assumptions.

And so I was just trying to be like, it's good to clarify. So yeah, if, um, if you tune in to the YouTube version, I'll phone a friend. I have no doubt she'll respond. Uh, so that'll be on the YouTube version. And here's where I'm going to cut. So I get my shit together. So I think we covered everything with that one. I think thank you for bringing that up.

I, I obviously don't want people that are adopted to feel like they're any lesser shouldn't be here because I think that that's definitely important to, to, that's not what you were saying. It's not what I was saying, but I think it's very easy to, when you feel personal about something to kind of infer, I think it's really easy to like misinterpret things. And so I don't, I don't want there to be any misinterpretation. Like a child that's adopted, adopted is just as valuable.

And their life is just as important and are like, oh, just don't want anything negative inferred from that. I'm just saying, like in this situation, I think it is unfair. This, it's just sperm. It's not even a child. It's not like it's inseminated eggs. It is purely sperm, which like how many, how, how many seeds have been flushed, swallowed or thrown away?

Yeah. This is just sperm. This is not a baby or wiped, wiped, wiped towel, towel time, towel time. So I, I'm glad you brought that up because now we can include it and just feel like all of our boxes were, were checked in. Let me just shut the fuck up. Someone else want to read the fuck. I don't know if I'd be a good reader.

Well, I kind of like it. I honestly thought that reading would be way more smooth, but then I remember that I have like, like reading anxiety where it's like, whenever people would popcorn, popcorn class, I'd be like, no. Oh, I love popcorn. No, I love it. I like, it's like, I know how to read, but it's just like the, the fluctuation of my voice and like when, when commas come and I don't see them and they all

of a sudden they're there and I'm just like, I pause and then stuff just doesn't bother me. Yeah, it's, well, with that being said, here you go. Really? Yeah. We're going to pass it down the line. What you're going to popcorn me? That's fucked up.

I just told you my trauma from grade school. All right. Let's let the real show begin. I needed a break after that last one. It was intense. So we have a lot of awards on this one. Hi, Jan from Toyota speaking. Jan, I heard it's a good time to buy a Toyota.

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Toyota, let's go places. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Dealer inventory may vary. Am I the asshole for not taking my husband to my brother-in-law's funeral after he went against my sister's wishes? My sister's husband was sick for over six months. In the past couple of months, he got worse. They have two kids, nephew, four and niece, six.

I agreed to take the kids in to look after them and help my sister focus on her husband. A week ago, I got a call at six fifty from my sister crying, telling me her husband had just passed away. It was so devastating. I was still in bed when I got the news. I checked on the kids and they were asleep. I had to go see my sister and be with her. I asked my husband to keep an eye on the kids and warned him not to tell them

about their father's passing till their mom got there and could tell them herself in her own way, since she made me promise to wait till she left them herself. He nodded but said telling them the sooner, the better. I told him it was none of his business and he needed to respect their mother's wish. He said I could go and he'd watch the kids. An hour later, my phone rang while I was with my sister and it was my husband telling me to get home ASAP because the kids had a breakdown after he told them their father passed. I was dumbfounded and so, so mad and helpless.

I asked why he told them, but I couldn't hear his reply because the kids were crying loudly in the background. Their mother heard and figured they found out. She told me to drive her to see them. I apologize for what my husband did, but she didn't respond. We got home and it was a mess. My heart sank seeing the kids crying for their dad like that. Their mom took them inside the room and shut the door.

I lost it on my husband and he said he didn't want to say anything. Even made them breakfast, but when he heard the kids talk about what they were going to do when they, when they see their dad, he felt the urge to tell them. I yelled at him for going against my sister's wishes. He apologized to my sister, but she said she doesn't want to see him because the kids stopped talking from their trauma. He wanted to go to the funeral, but I told him my sister doesn't want to see him. And I'm respecting her wish.

He got upset saying I excluded him from family events, which was unfair and flat out petty. He said he couldn't help it. So I shouldn't hold him accountable because it just happened. But I felt ashamed and a major letdown from my sister because she stated her wishes and he didn't respect them. Um, he's an asshole, huge asshole. I want to cry thinking about that.

Like if I was a mother and those were my wishes that I wanted to be the one to tell my kids that that's just why, like, I don't want to be traumatized. Why? Like, why did he think that was his right? Well, I was so explicitly like she made it so clear to beforehand, like he's trying to be like, no, they need to know now. No, they don't.

They're, when a kid is that little, they're going to remember who they were with and how they were told. Oh, I just like, just picture them, picture them over breakfast. I just can't wait until dad's not sick and we can go to the lake. And he goes, well, actually, your dad died this morning. Yeah, I don't believe he would decide you're not going to be going to the lake. How could he decide that was his responsibility in his place? Like that is so sad.

No. And then him being like, you excluded me from a family thing. You fucking lost any rights to be around that family. The minute that you fucked their life upside down, you went against her wishes. You ruined those kids moment of grief that they should have shared with their mom, their mom, their mom should have been there. The fact that they found out and they're bawling without their mom there. That makes me sick to my son.

How old are they again? Four and six, six. They're babies. They're fucking babies. They don't know what's going on. They need to be wrong with their mom, what it was wrong with him. Like if it was, if it wasn't made clear beforehand, I would be like, it was a mistake. Like he thought he was doing the right thing.

He's being honest, but it was very clear. Don't tell them. And what did he say to you? He was like, he literally was like, I feel like they need to know. Well, it, I feel like I'm such, I feel like I'm just the biggest trust guy ever because all of these issues, I always go to trust, but from you literally now can't trust him, you asked him to do something. And you trusted him to not do something.

And it's a huge thing. That's, and especially when we're talking about like how much childhood moments like that really make an impact on you as a human. They shape us. They really do. So like those things are huge, like huge. And yes, I have faith that the kids will be able to, you know, get over that and live a happy life.

But I mean, that, that moment, obviously it's going to take a lot to like handle the fact that their dad passed away. But like therapy, but hearing it from him, I'm sure that they'll get, you know, they'll move on from it. But that, he just added a difficulty that was so unnecessary and not his place and so fucked up. This like makes me scared to let anyone watch my kids. Honestly, it kind of feels like he didn't care.

Exactly. It feels like it didn't feel that big to him or just like, oh, guess what? Or like it was exciting news that he wanted to be the one to like break it. Yeah, it's very weird. I, I would be the exact same way if I was that person's significant other. I would be like, I don't know if I want you to, around any of these people anymore. And I don't even know if I want to be around you because like that, that was a huge breach that you did.

That it wasn't something small. No. And I'm, I know I'm quick to be like divorce, break up. But this is like our first review in the podcast, these girls just say divorce. And we're like, well, yeah, we're not married. And this is not my relationship. So obviously I'm not attached to it. Yeah.

But I just look at this as if my partner would have violated my trust, gone against my wishes, disrespected me, disrespected my family, traumatized my niece and nephew. I just like, I look at all this and I'm like, add all of this combined. And then the fact he's whimpering and oh, yeah, now he's the victim. Also him being like, you're excluding me from a family event. This is fucking a funeral. This is not a fucking holiday party celebration.

Yeah. You're being excluded from a funeral because you just ruined that kid, those kids grieving process. Yeah. He's playing victim. I'm looking at this person and I'm like, let's add up all the reasons why you're an asshole. Yeah.

And I'm like, do I want to be with this person? Yeah. So it's, it reminds me of the, the lady who threw away all the pictures of the late mom. He ruined this. Like it's the same shit. And I didn't watch that episode yet. I look at how traumatic death is.

Like I, I'm so fucked in the head. Like I'm so scared of losing my dad that I literally go and check and make sure he's breathing when I wake up in the morning and he's not gone before me. Like I'm terrorized of losing a parent. So like, I can't even imagine these four and five year old kids who are just like, just beginning their little lives and just asshole, absolute asshole. Yeah, I completely agree. Absolutely asshole.

She is not the asshole for not taking him to the funeral, which leads into the, actually there was a mod that stickied the comments. So it's at the top saying, all right, folks, is that time of day again? We remind you to be civil. Yeah, good luck on this one. So this one got pretty heated. Top comment has a lot of awards. Not the asshole.

I was babysitting for a family friend while they were at the hospital saying goodbye to their other child. I knew that their son had died, but I kept my mouth shut and loved on their daughter who was talking about going to see her brother until they got home because we're both going to cry because it was one million percent, not my place to say anything. Didn't even cross my mind to tell her, even though I had to leave the room a few times to wipe my eyes and regain composure. Yeah, OK.

But yeah, it's it's one hundred percent not your fucking place to tell. He's an adult. If you need to go in the other room and step back, like, yeah, you just lost your brother in law. Yeah, step back. Like, step back. This is not your place, though. I don't understand in what rational mind.

Well, and this is interesting. Exactly. Children that young are easily distracted as well. He really could have thrown on the TV for a few hours until their mom came. No, he totally wanted to hurt those kids by telling them they were distracted. It almost seems like he wanted to just like have the spotlight. Like, yes, like have the power, like just like, yeah. Oh, I know this news. I'm going to let you guys know, like, I want to be the first to let you.

Like, I don't know, but like, it makes me so sick. He's unhinged. And again, again, obviously, I don't know, like, we're not hearing him talk. We are not hearing, like, his situation. But like, from what we do know, this is sick. Yeah, it makes me so sad. And I get every situation is so subjected to the person that experiences it. Like, obviously, OP writing in is the wife in the situation, but there's very

objective information here. It was expressly said, don't tell the kids. And he still went against that and told the kids. So no matter what else went on in the situation, he had one fucking, I agree, one fucking assignment. You had one job. He did not understand the assignment. Well, and the other way to think about it, that you kind of lightly touched on is

now the kids forever have this memory with him. These kids have not spoken. That's the whole reason he's not invited to the funeral too. Like, one, he disobeyed all guidelines, did not understand the assignment. But these kids have now gone like mute, right? They did, they did write that, that they haven't been talking. They haven't been talking. These kids have now, because of this trauma and the sadness, have decided not to talk.

Yeah, the kids stopped talking from their trauma. It makes me so sick. And I think the reason it makes me so, so, so sick is that I'm assuming that this guy is like very, like in his right mind and very level and like not on, does not have any diagnoses is just a normal dude. Not taking drugs, like not like out of this world. Like I'm assuming these things. And so it just makes me so sick because I'm like, who in their rational right

mind, like, who do you think you are? One for kids, this young, but kids this young to stop talking. Four and five, four and six, like make that, making that choice at that age to be like, well, I just, if someone random, like to me, like random, not, I mean, not super random, but like that's just not my, my home is telling me that someone that I love most in the entire universe. You also like, don't believe it. There's, it's just so sickening to me.

Like it wasn't his place. Like I want to scream at this man. I want to kill him. I think there's something though, where the younger you are that trauma occurs, the more likely you are to actually stop talking. And this is something I definitely am going to fact check. I like really want to look this up where, um, to make sure like this is actually thing, but I think the younger trauma happens at the more likely someone is to

like stop talking or shut down. Interesting. And you just need to fact check. That's interesting though. Cause I, my first thought was that the younger you are, the more likely you would be to continually just ask out questions and try to understand because you've never experienced these concepts. And I think it's like exactly what you're saying, but flip it.

You've never experienced these concepts. So you don't know how to deal with it. So you shut down. But I also think though too, at an older age, you could shut down just because you do understand what has truly happened. And you just shut down. Yeah, it's called selective mutism. And obviously this is like a very specific circumstance.

So I'm not even sure if I'm going to find anything like directly on this. So there's not a lot on this, but there's, so this one quote, there's also a misconception that kids who can't speak in some settings have been traumatized. In fact, kids who become mute after a traumatic experience are typically mute in all situations, not specific social environments. So these kids literally could be affected pretty greatly in all areas of their life going forward because of the fact that this man took it into his own hands. And thought it was his fucking job, his due diligence to tell these poor children.

It makes me so mad. Yeah, there's not a lot on this either, like selective mutism after trauma. There's not, I wish people a lot on it. There's so many things through growing up that I now look back and I'm like, I learned so much in school about things that are just not relevant to me today. And I don't regret learning those things because I think they help with your brain, like developing and understanding just, I don't, I don't even know. But, but what makes me mad is that there's so many things that we could learn.

I, I still feel like there should be more communication for people to really understand how these things can have an impact because I don't know. I think that even like with myself, like my mom loves me. So much. And I love my mom so much. And then I still think some of these things that happen, like in my childhood, like where, you know, she wasn't trying to be mean at all, like, or bad or anything. Like she was a great mom to me, but I think that some of these things have an

impact on who I am. And like we just don't, no one, no, yeah, no one knows that. Like, oh, it's, it's nature versus nurture. We are, we are a sum of our environment. I think biology plays a big part, but I also think we are heavily shaped by our experiences. Yeah. And I started realizing more and more, like these certain instances as a kid, I'm

starting to remember these times where it's like no one was outright like trying to like hurt me or be mean to me, but these things made me feel a certain way. That is like shaped who I am now. Yeah. It's just crazy. I don't know. I just think it should be more of a topic. So back to this story.

There's not a update. Uh, did you realize this was posted one day ago? No, but I did look for the update. Yeah. This was posted one day ago. So. Update to come. Very, very fresh.

We will keep our eyes peeled for an update. OP only replies to one comment and it is this comment says, not the asshole at all. Do not take the responsibility of your spouse's acts on yourself. You clearly express your sister's wishes. He made the choice to go directly against them. Your sister had every right to not want contact at all with him after that. Who knows how the kids would have responded or been more traumatized. Seeing him again, you are not petty.

You're trying to love and respect and support your sister in her time of grief. And OP goes, yes, I agree, but he's been giving me grief about how harsh I was towards him and that I should have let him attend the funeral with me, completely ignoring the fact he went against my sister's wishes and she rightfully wants some space from him. Someone else replies to OP and goes, it's not about you. None of this is about you on repeat until he gets it. And someone replies back to that. That's what I was going to say.

Tell him, quote, this is not about you or any of your feelings. This is about sister and her kids. That's it. He made a choice and this is the outcome of his very selfish choice. Yes. Yes. I honestly, I've, we've read the most crazy stories. I've listened to the most crazy stories on this podcast, but this, like I genuinely don't think

I would ever want to see him again. If I was, if I was the parent of these kids, I don't think I would, I don't think I would forgive him. Like obviously he could do things to like, I, you know, I'm not going to be. He could try to redeem himself. He could try to redeem himself, but like as of how he's acting right now, I don't ever see myself wanting to be around this man. You'll never trust, you'll never trust. No, but like him gaslighting her, you're being petty.

You're being petty. This is a petty problem. No, petty problems are not this. This is life altering for multiple people. This is not petty. I think, I know this sounds kind of crazy, but I think one of the only things I'd be thinking about why I would want to have a relationship with him is some familiarity for my kids, almost like, like the person who told you this news is in our life and their family.

Like, I don't, I don't know if that makes sense, but like that would be like to try to lessen the severity. Exactly. Like that would be my one consideration. Cause if you never see him again, it's a random man who just told you this news. Yeah, but I also think the fact that the kids are already so traumatized, like this has already been their uncle for the time they've probably been born. Like, I don't know if OP ever says how long they've been married.

Um, yeah. No, I'm just saying that's like my one thing that I would be like, cause otherwise I would be like, I don't want to see this man again. The only way I would consider it is if he really, for that reason to try to like, to try to lessen the severity of the situation, I get that it doesn't mention how long they've been married. So we don't know that, but I think the fact that these kids were so traumatized by him telling them that they went selectively mute kind of already says like, it doesn't, I

don't, I don't think him being included is going to make the situation better because if he was already a part of the family and included in a way, like, you know what I'm saying? Like where it's like, he already burned the bridge. Like there's not anything that's going to lessen the severity of this situation because he's not the person that should have told them. I think, uh, we've burned the bridge on this one and he's gone. Yep.

It would be really hard for me as, how do you move on? As the, as the what, or if I was, you know, as like whoever I am as my partner and my sister, I, it would constantly put me in a really uncomfortable place where I'm, I know where, like I side with, I side with my sister and not because she's my sister, but because of the situation. A hundred percent. So it would just be so hard. Like I would just be like, every time I'd go to a family thing, I'd remember you were

a fucking asshole. It would just be hard. Like I'm not saying they can't get through it, but like, it'd be really hard for me. I don't know. Well, we'll look out for the update on this one. But can't believe that you saw those just a day ago. One day ago. Wow.

I hopped on that one. I don't know why it always like blows my mind when these things are recent. Yeah. Speaking of recent, this one was nine days ago. Popcorn. Popcorn. Who? You.

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Finally, like a happy kind of one. Light hearted on him. Do we know what DH is? Doting husband, I believe. Okay. My DH brought home a metal box that he checks on often during the day when it's in the fridge. When asked about it, he said it contained freshly pickled olives.

His friend Jason got from his uncle's farm and wanted DH to keep till he gets back from his business trip. I had no problem with him keeping it safe at the bottom of the fridge. DH always asked me to be cautious with the box and not open it as it'd be rude to touch other people's stuff. Yesterday, I decided to clean out the fridge, which took me about two, two hours from unplugging the fridge, emptying all of the items, grocery, vegetables, containers, and washing and cleaning out the inside of it, letting it settle

before plugging it in again. I took the box my husband brought out of the fridge and placed it on the kitchen island alongside the containers. While I was working, I received a video call via WhatsApp from my husband while at work feeling bored, asking what I was doing. I showed him, I was cleaning out the fridge and he suddenly freaked out and asked about the metal box. I was confused.

So I told him to calm down and I showed him where the box was. He got mad, telling me I should not have cleaned out the fridge, nor even touched the box without telling him. I again, tried to ask him to calm down as I saw no big deal about it. His precious box was safe and sound, but he went on a rant about how the box needed to be put back inside the fridge ASAP and told me to plug the fridge in right then, but I couldn't because it was still wet and I wasn't finished cleaning the other parts.

Apparently I pissed him off by stalling and he hung up and 30 minutes later, he came home and pitched a hissy fit saying, I should have picked a time where he was home to clean out the fridge so he could take the box somewhere else to keep it cool. I said, so what? It was sitting out of the fridge for barely two hours and olives can stand being outside the fridge for a longer period. He said, I don't get it and took the box and wanted to leave with it.

I asked where he was taking it and he said he needed to go back to work and had no time to explain. I shrugged this whole thing off, but he came back with it in the evening and put it inside the fridge, then complained about me cleaning the fridge without telling him and acting dismissive of his opinions. I argued that what opinions could he have on cleaning out the fridge? He argued back saying he promised Jason, he'd keep his olives in good condition and I should have just told him end of story.

I wonder if I messed up. He usually doesn't get that mad unless I've messed up and I think that I have. Is that the end? Um, so what the fuck is in the box? So I'm picturing body parts. Save that it. I'm picturing body parts. I was just going to say what body parts are in this.

I'm over here thinking like sperm, drugs, other story. I'm like sperm. No, sperm. It's Jason's sperm. Sperm. I know. No, I know that it doesn't make sense, but like that's just where my like, where, where I'm at right now.

I'm dead ass. I'm like, what body parts is this? Yeah. Like who freaks the fuck out that they're, and he checks, he checks the box it, the box multiple times a day. Yeah, but isn't it like the movie rat race where they're trying to keep that heart cool enough to make it all the way through the whole movie and get to the end? I forgot that movie existed.

Oh my God. I don't know if I've seen it. Oh, this is the first place in Minnesota. Doesn't it? Some, I, I, I don't know that much rat race. All I know is there's some heart in some like makeshift cooler and they're trying to keep it a lot. I know it sounds really, really familiar to where I feel like I've probably seen

it, but I'm not sure. But why is he checking a box of olives multiple times a day? Cause they're precious. Why is he concerned about the olives being outside of a fridge? No one would leave work early for olives. I'm sorry. That's what I'm saying. Also, like I, like Justin always is like very concerned about food being left on

the counter and like getting food poisoning. And the, like when I've been to like parties and there's a jacuzzi board with olives on it, like that shit sits out for like six hours. I wouldn't get worried about olives. My mom leaves pizzas out for like three days. No, Morgan, Morgan leaves chicken out like all day and that shit is warm. Sitting on the counter. I'm like, dude, I'm not about to eat this and she'll cook it up.

Be like, it's fine. We're good. Here is my theory. Think about a grad school high school. My grad party, the chicken had a little heater under it and it was heated. I don't leave chicken out for that long, but I don't think that was for safety reasons. I think that was like for, I think it's both. No, I think it was for more like, let's not have people eat culture.

You can't mess with that shit though. You cannot. I've been on the bad end of that. I have to, but I think you also have a really sensitive stomach. So anyone would be sensitive to that shit. E coli coming up in there. Anyone's going to be messed up. I think you can leave food out for a lot longer than a lot of people think is what

I'm going to say. So like, I think about the grad school rule. Like if I left this out at a grad school party right now, could I eat it in six hours? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to eat it. Like, I don't know.

Like I've forgotten pizza on my counter drunkenly one night, nighty next night for dinner. If I left a Chick-fil-A sandwich out overnight, I'd eat it the next day. You bet I'm eating that shit. Those nuggets, that Chick-fil-A sauce, let's go. Those aren't olives in that box. Raw, raw chicken, that's different. Raw chicken is totally. Surely raw chicken out for two weeks.

No, I don't. And eat it raw. And then she'd be like, think about grad parties. You are just lying. I deal with this almost on a daily basis. You're lying. Like, you think this chicken's good? Oh yeah, it's fine.

You're a fucking liar, though, because you brought fucking Costco chicken over and you go, oh, I think it might be still good and you open up and I smell it and I go, no, throw it away. I don't see my nose growing. Morgan the hero. I'm not Pinocchio. No, I'm not Pinocchio. You guys, I'm Pinocchio. Not, not because I'm lying, but because you guys like.

I told you to throw that chicken away two days ago. I discovered a Snapchat filter that makes you Pinocchio. And I was like, I don't know why this makes me feel like. Oh, I sent that to her. I was like, I have a dick on my nose and I'm not mad about it. It was floppy though. It flops all around. Yeah, it was very flaccid.

Insert clip of me that I sent to Morgan. You need to redo it. Get into it. You guys, I saved mine too. I have it. I'll send them to you. So back to this front. There's definitely body parts in there.

There's something crazy. This is not olives in this box. But like, why would, why would they keep body parts? Like what? It's kidneys. But then why would you not, why would you not tell? Okay. What are the updates?

So this is, this is a husband. Like, why would you not tell? Like, I'm sorry. Boys don't tell anything. Boys keep secrets. Is that fucking true, Justin? I don't know. Do you think it's true, Lauren?

Your kind fucking does that. It's bullshit. I feel attacked. Um, okay. So edit. First of all, yes, I'm aware that D.H. is overprotective of his box, but he always acts like that. Whenever someone asks him to keep something safe for him,

like furniture or car parts. And second of all, so this is a regular occurrence. Keep this car part safe for me. Don't let an atomic bomb go off and destroy it. Please watch my chair. I mean, this is what I have to deal with with my boyfriend. Like all of his stuff is like so sacred. Like I didn't realize that like the fact that my fingerprints on his drawers are

going to like, that's weird. He's being OCD. The fact that multiple people are reaching out and dropping items off at his house to keep safe. Oh, drug dealer. He has drugs in the furniture. So take it, take a peek at this chair right here. See the bottom of the chair.

The bottom lining is like sagging a little bit. Okay. There's drugs in there. There's drugs in there. You got to put that chair in the fridge. But the minute you said that, I go, that's where you would sew in drugs. I've seen on TikTok, you guys, this is so wild, but I've seen on TikTok videos of semi-truck drivers or smugglers smuggling shit in.

I think you're talking about cartel talk. Oh, I'm on that too. I see the planes all the time. I see the planes. I see cartel talk all the time. But I, I see all the stuff where people are smuggling. I see cartel talk, whatever it is, where they literally have like a truck full of wood. And then if you pick up a section of the wood, there's fucking, it's lined with

cocaine. Oh yeah. I used to launch live PD and they'd put it in all the cars compartment. Yes. Tires and everything. Exactly. And so I'm like chairs, car parts, a box. Either way, there's not fucking olives in there.

Would you have not opened the box? I would have opened the box. Would you have opened the box? I would have opened the box the minute it got in my present. So it was OP crazy for not opening the box. Yes. Yes. The minute he fell down on FaceTime, the minute he was like, I'm coming home from work.

Don't touch the box or whatever he said. Or like, I would have box open. And you would have seen all the raw olives. You guys, I'm so fucking annoying. I will Google the movie spoilers when I'm in the middle of the movie. Dude, she will. It's fucked up. I want to know.

And I'm literally and she and she will watch a movie together. And then all of a sudden she gets her phone out and she's dee dee dee dee dee. And then I look over her. Oh, don't do it. And she goes and smiles. And I'm like, you know, you know, I'm like, don't you dare tell me. I don't tell you, though, you have. No, you have before you kind of insinuate.

Yes, there's something in the look of your eyes that I instantly know the rest. Exactly. I can't handle what my eyes do. Then stop Googling it. I have to know. I have to know. I was just going to say I have to know. Oh, my God.

No, I have I actually the worst part about this story is that I've taken on your bad habits and I started doing that. And I like, I don't do that with everything. What's the point of watching the movie? I know I don't do that with everything. I do that with series. I do it with series when I'm just like, I am not about to have anxiety for the next like 10 episodes.

That's what it is. So like, I just need to know, like, did you actually die? Or like, are you coming back to life? Like, I just let's get this out of the way. Because I don't want to mourn you for 10 episodes and you come back to life. Yeah. And I don't, I haven't regretted it. I think that's why Game of Thrones ending was so heartbreaking for me

because I didn't know what was coming. Oh, my God. Okay. They ruined it. No, y'all, you guys are crazy. But we're not going to go down that rabbit hole. Wait. Okay.

So before I know what I do want to say, though, actually from high school, one of my best friends in high school, her dad, he was like so nerdy, so sweet. They're all quiet drug dealer. Like, no. And like, and like his mom, her mom and her dad were married or are still married. Like, sweetest couple ever. So cute, whatever. He literally grew weed in their basement.

So drug dealer. And well, I don't know if he was a drug dealer or if he just like, it was a passion or like a hobby. But if it's in Minnesota, it's illegal. Exactly. Drug dealer. And especially what was this like, how many years ago was this? Like high school, you graduated high school in 2011.

So you were ages 20. We don't need to talk about these things. Hey, you're right. Makes me feel way too old. Okay. Um, back to the story. Okay. So edit.

First of all, I'm aware that DH is acting overproductive of the box, but he always acts like that whenever someone comes over and asks him to keep an item safe, like furniture or car parts. And second of all, no, I haven't seen those olives myself and I haven't opened the box because I didn't even think I had to, but DH tends to be overprotective of his friends belonging. So I didn't give it much thought. How?

Another edit. How do you resist? Because many were wondering, yes, I unplugged the fridge before cleaning out since I did heavy cleaning. You can see that is a common method. Just Google it. If you're curious, I do it all the time. And to give some info, the metal box does look like a container of some sort,

but DH calls it box. So I didn't think much different. I don't give a fuck about how you unplugged the fridge. I want to know what's in the box. So I think that the edits are clearly responding to the comments, which we don't know what they are yet. So go look at her account and see if there's an update. Someone goes question, what does your husband do for work?

Sanitation, construction, garbage transportation. O.P. replies back, no, he works at a marketing company as an assistant and is a serial killer, Dexter, Dexter, someone replies back, please open the box. Although I am sure he will have changed whatever was on the inside when he took the box with him. Someone goes, I think she opened the box and he was standing in the doorway. That's what I'll continue to think until she says anything else. And that had better be her telling us what's in the box or I will lose my mind.

Someone goes, marketing company, stand down, everyone, it's just cocaine. Yeah, which I would not be surprised if it's drugs, but then why would, yeah, exactly, why would you freak out about cocaine not being in the fridge? Like what needs to be in the fridge? It's got to be a lot of cocaine. Like what if it's like a hundred thousand dollars and that needs to be in the fridge, the fridge when it's coming in the planes and shit, no chance. No, no, no, but I'm sure like for him, it's just like, if it's in the fridge,

don't touch it, I know where it is. Don't touch it because he doesn't want her to open it up. But he freaked out about her unplugging the fridge. Don't even bring it home. Yeah, he was, he was like, you unplugged the fridge. I know, which also like, I guess if it was cocaine and you didn't want your wife to find it, why not like stick it anywhere else under your bed? They have to be something else.

What else needs to be in the fridge? The story is just fucking nuts about protecting other people's shit. Like, oh my God, Morgan's like, take these strawberries. I'll eat them in a couple of days. And I'm just like, no matter what, I'm going in from the studio every five minutes to make sure the fridge is still on. Those are blogging strawberries. Yeah.

Another comment info. Have you actually confirmed that it is really olives in there? Because it's all kind of sounds suspicious. No, because why would I? Since husband said it contained olives. Honestly, I don't know why some people think this is weird. Husband can be a little too dramatic and overprotective of others' belongings. And since it belongs to his friend, then why bother looking inside?

It's not like he took it from a stranger. What's wrong with her? She's very trusting. I'm pissed. So she got literally like almost a thousand downvotes on that comment. Good. And someone replies back and goes, seriously? Stop whatever you're doing and go look in that box.

And if you're shitposting for fun, I don't care. Pretend you open the box and make up something good. Yeah. God, this is fucking crazy. What's in the box? What just makes me mad is that she's like, why are you going to Reddit and asking people for their advice? And you're not realizing the fact that this is really questionable.

Hi, Holly. Like, this is so questionable. Like, what if you're, if you, if anyone's going to freak out that much about something in a secret box and you were like, there's something bad. And you're like, why would I look like death? No one drives home from work to take the box with them back to work and then brings the box back home at the end of the day with olives for real. What kind of olives are they?

Are they fucking gold? I don't care if they're imported from Italy with like fucking magical truffles on them. No one does that. Maybe, maybe they've been, maybe they've been ripened for a hundred years or not ripened. What's it called? Yes. What's it called?

Fermented. Yeah. That is true. Thank you. Pickled. Pickled. Pickled. Pickled.

Fermented. I think they did say pickled. Yeah. They did say pickled. For a hundred years. Maybe that's it. But it's still, I was still in the box. Let's go with that so we all can just sleep tonight and not be here.

I don't know how you can like literally be that un-crazy to like not look in the box. I would have looked in the box from the get-go. I would have said you're not keeping your friend's box in our fridge. With that exactly same. I'll get my own fridge. There's not a goddamn chance I would have let that box come in my fridge without knowing what's inside.

Is this the end? You just closed your computer. I kind of like that though. It's like a mic drop. Everyone's going to be left wondering what is in the box. I think this is a good point to end. I think unhinged might have to come in a 2.0 version down the road because I got a lot saved in this little magical computer mine.

But how did you feel? You've been wanting crazy. I really enjoyed this conversation. That's pretty good. We cried, we laughed, we did cry and we did laugh. This was truly a roller coaster of emotions. I think that's one thing that's really great about this show is that we are very authentic to ourselves and our emotions and crying is okay.

Yeah, I agree. I really don't have anything else to say on this one except that unhinged 2.0 will be coming down the road at some point. That's all we have for you guys on this episode of Two Hot Takes. And until next time, this was the best day ever. Until next time. Until next time. Bye guys.

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