Two Hot Takes - 54: Damage Control ft. Robyn aka GirlBossTown

Episode Date: February 17, 2022

Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-hosts Justin and Robyn also known as GirlBossTown on TikTok! We dove into Robyn's world of PR moves and damage control, and tweaked her PR expertise t...o handle real life Reddit drama. LIVE SHOW: www.MomentHouse.com/THT We would love to have you join us for our very first digital show!! We kept it virtual so all could join and tickets are only $10!! Giveaways, card games, and crazy stories guaranteed. Partners: Cerebral: Cerebral.com/THT for 65% off 1st month.  Obe Fitness:  Obefitness.com Code = THT Hello Fresh: Hellofresh.com/THT16 promo code = THT16 Bloom: Bloomnu.com/2HT  Appreciate your support <3  https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes

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Starting point is 00:00:55 We got this. Oh, yeah. I'm just gonna start the intro again. Welcome back to another episode of Too Hot Takes You Guys. Morgan here. Justin. Robin. We have Robin.
Starting point is 00:01:08 She is Girlboss Town on TikTok. And not a lot of people know my actual name on TikTok. It's very confusing. My name is not Girlboss or, like, sometimes emails will say Missboss Town. I'm like, okay, I don't know if this is correct, but it's Robin or Girlboss Town. I'll go by you there. I'll post some links to her TikToks and you will instantly know who she is. She's gone viral for giving the best PR advice for people like the Kardashians.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I think Madison Beer was a big one. The first one. Yeah. And Brands as well. It kind of started with PR moves from Madison Beer and then celebrities started commenting on it and saying, do me next. And then Brands got involved and it all trickled down and turned into a career, which is crazy, but the power of the internet, my friend.
Starting point is 00:01:51 TikTok. That's awesome. Yeah. And congratulations. I mean, some of the stuff I hear you say, I'm like, that is genius. Like how, wow, just wow. I think it's all because I was like, I call myself the ultimate consumer. So like I grew up just sitting and watching reality TV, which people think is really
Starting point is 00:02:08 bad for you. But I've made a career out of it because I know as somebody watching the trajectory of celebrities' careers, I know what I want to see them do. I know what I would do if things go wrong because I've seen it be done correctly and done it correctly. So I just started putting my opinions out there and people liked it, which is a blessing for sure. Well, you'll fit right in here on this show then because I got a good theme for you that
Starting point is 00:02:34 fits right into your PR genius, high profile and damage control. I think we all need that currently in our lives. Absolutely. Let's get it. Let's do it. Yeah. Okay. Let's dive in.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Hi guys, I just want to talk a little bit about the upcoming live online show. I've been getting a lot of questions about it. So just want to answer the most frequent ones. So like I said, it is a virtual online digital show. So you can watch it from home. And how do you do it? You go to momenthouse.com slash tht and buy tickets. So I'll put the link in the description.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Another common question I saw is I can't make it that day. Could I watch it later? Someone even wrote in and said, I'm supposed to give birth that day. So I'd recommend buying the ticket now and then you have an entire week after the show to catch up and watch it whenever you can. And that goes for both the live show and the after party as well. Where's the location of the meet and greet? Meet and greet is going to be online as well.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So we'll be zooming together for about three minutes. It's going to be kind of like an AMA ask us anything and a promise or not scary. Someone went, I'm dying to watch it, but it is 3am here and I can't fuck up my sleeping schedule, mental health. So there's actually going to be a bunch of different premiers. So if you can't make it on the Pacific time where we're at in Los Angeles, you know, stateside, then you can actually join other premiers and there's a bunch of other locations. So check out Moment House and see if there's going to be a premiere for where you are.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Who's hosting the show? So it's actually going to be me, Alejandra, Lauren and Justin, all four of us hosting with my dad, your favorite, popping in to say hi. How long will it be? If you do the live show and the after party, I would say it's at least going to be two hours. Do you already have all the stories picked out? Will anyone have a blind reaction?
Starting point is 00:04:50 So this show is going to be kind of unique. Almost all of the stories that we're going to be reading have been sent in by you guys and I'm trusting your recommendations. I read nothing more than the title on most of them and screenshot of them and added them to my live show folder. So almost all of them are going to be complete blind reactions for all of us. But the one that I found that I did read that I think is really, really good. That one you don't want to miss because I think it's going to replace Beetleman on terms
Starting point is 00:05:19 of our new favorite weirdo. Are you doing any sort of giveaway? We are going to be doing giveaways. I'm going to be giving away merch, some postcards and stickers and maybe some other surprises. Where can I buy and how much is it? Again, momenthouse.com slash THT. I'll put the link in the description of this and tickets for the live show are only $10. What is the after party going to be like?
Starting point is 00:05:45 It's going to be super fun. We're going to play card games like we're not really strangers and I have a couple other decks that best self-co sent me. Really intimate. Just us divulging our deepest darkest secrets. What is the main topic going to be? My overall theme is happy birthday THT slash me because my birthday is actually the Friday before the show and two hot takes just turned one on February 10th.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's going to be a party. We're picking the best of the best. The best mother-in-law story we could find, the best unhinged story. The Olympics is going on right now and this is going to be the Olympics of Reddit coming at you. I think that answers all the questions I see here. I see everyone's responses that they've bought in tickets already and I'm so, so happy that you guys can come.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I honestly feel like I'm the girl that's inviting people to their birthday party and no one's going to come. I've had a little anxiety about this but I'm really excited and I can't wait to share these stories with you guys and I'm trusting you to send me good ones. I also have some really cool unique things like listeners that I actually sent in voice memos of their stories. This is going to be a really fun experience and I can't wait to share it with you guys. So again, go to MomentHouse.com slash THT to get your ticket.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Thanks guys. Okay, so up first, I, 24 male, am a public figure that is concerned with entering the dating scene. For context, I've been single for the last year after breaking up with my ex-girlfriend. I was pretty down about it for a hot minute but I figured I'd just do my own stuff and stay single. I feel like I'm ready to enter the dating scene but I am concerned with my public profile. I don't want to dox myself but I'm a professional athlete for a well-renowned team on the west
Starting point is 00:07:35 coast of the US. With that said, I'm concerned with meeting girls that may take advantage of me due to my current status as a public figure. I'm also concerned about the power balance of dating and eventually entering a relationship with a girl that may not be in the same financial level. My primary concern is that my current position will attract girls that may not really care about me but rather my status or financial standing. I'm also concerned about the potential imbalance that the girl could feel.
Starting point is 00:08:04 On the flip side, I also want to protect myself from a potential false accusation that can occur if things don't pan out and how potential ex could feel vindictive afterwards. I bring this up because of some of the things I've seen with guys from other teams dealing with and just in general the news that can happen in the current climate. I've had a few different dates that went relatively well over the past month but I didn't feel like anything meaningful and kept my options open to the dating scene. I think the last thing that is also worth bringing up is that I am constantly traveling for much of the year and only really have stable time around the summer and early fall.
Starting point is 00:08:43 To sum it up, how do you think I should maneuver around the dating scene with aforementioned concerns I raised? Okay, well first and foremost, he is something that not a lot of guys, no offense have, which is self-awareness. I think he is very self-aware of himself and his issues and his strong points, his weak points and he knows what he wants, which I think is rare. You took the words right out of my mouth. I think it's very rare.
Starting point is 00:09:12 However, I think he has a very, I don't want to say negative mindset, but he's going into it with all of the problems and putting all of his problems out there, which is concerning because like he said, he's seen it go bad in his friends' directions. It's like you could also use it to your advantage and be like, I know exactly what I want and I'm going to be able to find that because there's no ifs ands or buts with me. You have to fit the mold or not. You know what I mean. There's going to be a perfect person out there.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I'm looking for an athlete, not for the wrong reasons. I'm single, but I think he can find the right person to fit that mold for him, but maybe stay away from dating apps. I know they work, clearly, but maybe try meeting people out in public, which I think is a rare thing to do nowadays, going out in public and meeting people in public. I know it's hard. What do you think? I think, my first thought was like, okay, celebrity matchmaker if you're that concerned
Starting point is 00:10:20 about whatever, but then I'm like, okay, but the girls that go to those celebrity matchmakers, I'm like, maybe that's not right. So then I'm like, I think honestly like hinge or like a dating app that's not so like Tinder hookups, but don't put a single picture of you playing a sport. Okay. Have you met a woman before? Google? Creeping?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah. Of course. I will literally see where their pants are from and then like stand outside the store and like look for guys that look like them. Not that I've done that before, but I just, I am a girl, clearly, and I have friends and we do some investigative work on hinge. Also you don't want to, this is where it gets difficult because you don't want to like lie about your lifestyle because I think that can also get you into like a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 00:11:10 True. I would say he doesn't want somebody who's in the same business as him. He doesn't want a gold digger. Maybe go to like a yoga class, like go where somebody like doesn't have, doesn't have a lot of ego. That's such a good point. I just like stereo made a stereotype about yoga people that they don't care about egos, but go to a place where it's like maybe there's like some fitness involved, not a lot of ego
Starting point is 00:11:37 involved and meet somebody mutually that way. Or I think an amazing idea would be like a friend of a friend. So if you have a teammate who is married to like a great girl and it worked out for their situation, everybody's situation is different, but maybe like, hey, does she have any friends that like obviously aren't gold diggers and crazy? You know what I mean? Yeah. That sounds like the ideal situation.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Especially if you have a guy that's been like on your team that's dating his high school sweetheart and like you know that that guy's got a good girl who's with him for the right reasons. I'm sure she's got some nice friends. Yeah. Also like in business, I know you're not supposed to like hook up with coworkers, but it happens every day. But like maybe there's somebody like on the business side of the NFL team or like an advertiser
Starting point is 00:12:24 that comes around that like knows the industry, but like isn't intimidated by the industry is around super powerful people and is a powerful woman herself. Maybe that could work out for him. I think that's a good idea. And that's like what some of the comments said to like the top one on this is find someone independent with an established career. They won't need you around constantly and will have their own finances and not be so concerned with yours.
Starting point is 00:12:47 That sounds like me. Yeah. Like so like I'm here. You know that we'll send him a message for you. Yeah. I'm Kardashian. She's like, I'm dropping hints that I'm single. I prefer being like, I'm single if that's me on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:12:59 But no, yeah, it's, it's a difficult situation, but it's, it's not impossible. No. You know what I mean? I feel like you're not actually ever going to truly avoid it though. Yeah. Like you can't just avoid it. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And so you're going to meet those people, figure it out quick and move on. But I think what you said is smart. I think friend of a friend or an introduction is a great way to do it. Otherwise you just got to meet people. It's going, it's going to happen. Yeah. You're going to find the wrong people until you find the right one. So like, you can't just hold yourself back from dating just because you're scared of
Starting point is 00:13:35 meeting someone who's going to take advantage of you. You just got to go for it. Otherwise you're going to waste all this time. I start crying. Like, okay. No. Like you're not going to avoid it. Wise words.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah. I think the yoga one was a good idea. I actually have a couple of friends that went to like a random yoga class at a small studio here in LA. And my friend Sarah walks in and she's like, Alhondra, Alhondra, that's usher or usher. He goes by her. His name is usher. She goes, that's usher.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And Alhondra was like, no, it's not. And so he ended up like putting his mat out next to them. And during the class that, you know, the yogi teacher was like, introduce yourself to your neighbors. And so Alhondra turns to him and she goes, hi, I'm Alhondra. And he goes, usher. And she looks at Sarah. And she goes, you were right.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Okay. That is a piece of information that I'm not going to stop thinking about for a little bit. The fact that usher does Donward Dog is like wild. She said he was so good. I can see that. I've also heard that he's like very, very sexual, like almost like a sex addict. I think that was like a rumor I heard on the fifth grade bus.
Starting point is 00:14:43 There's some like fifth grade bus rumors that like are ingrained in my memory. Just haunting you. Just haunting me. It's all so false. And I'm like, I wonder where that started. Maybe read it. I think it probably started when I read it. But aren't you not supposed to talk to people in a workout setting?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Mm-hmm. Isn't that a big no? Well, maybe like walking out or walking in, he's just like standing at the door. Like that would be creepy. Yeah, yeah, I guess. You see, I don't know the approach. I just know the destination. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I think, honestly, a workout studio might be the best bet because the more I think about this, I used to go to Cycle House here in LA with Jessica Elba all the time. She was at my class all the time. That's not intimidating at all. It was really motivating to have her, like she always was like a bike, like upper row and then left or right. So it was like, I'm like, if Jessica Elba just had a baby and she's pedaling, like, I can fucking pedal too.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah. You will never catch me in a fitness studio. But if he wants to, you know, slide in, go right ahead. Okay. We'll message him for you. Perfect. But also like just one last note though too, because like Drake and the hot sauce condom issue came up recently.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Did you see what I said about that? No. I think that Frank's Red Hot needs to do an ad campaign, like a super, super sexy ad campaign with two hot people in the bedroom, like feeding each other the hot sauce and be like, how to spice up the bedroom the right way at Drake. That's amazing. I don't think they've listened to me. I'll send some emails.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah. Of course. Because that's genius. I like that. Thank you. I like that. That's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So this guy, you know, you can't be too careful. I mean, if Drake is going to get hot sauce. Yeah. Now, whenever I'm on a date, I like to look around their house and look at their hot sauce here. That's why you gotta. I show up to the guy from the NFL's house and I'm like, where's the hot sauce? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I don't know why. I hear a lot of guys like flushing condoms. We talked about this. A lot of guys would like flush condoms and we're worried about like plastic straws. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Well, they're flushing condoms.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Don't even real issue. Don't even get started. We just had a tampon gate on this podcast actually about like girls flushing tampons. So. Okay. I've been guilty. Yeah. You flushed a condom before?
Starting point is 00:17:03 I have. Yeah. No, not no. Actually, no. Well, maybe. I will. And so I thought about this. I'm like, I have like the tie technique.
Starting point is 00:17:11 So I just like, after you slide it off, you stretch it back out and then you like wrap it around your hand like the balloon, like you tie a balloon and then tie it. But then I'm like, all someone that's like trying to get themselves pregnant has to do is like pop a hole and then squirt it in their cooch. So. Okay. I like the hot sauce. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Honestly. Hot sauce is dope too. Or like wasabi. Yeah. You know, you can switch up your spices. You just need to be sure. You just like got to make sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. Maybe don't hook up the first time you meet someone and learn, learn their, their chance. Yeah. Okay. What's up, everybody? I'm Mike Wilson with any hour services and if you've been thinking about replacing your old water heater, any hour services is here to help and save you some money. Whether you're looking for a new tanked water heater or you want to see what upgrading to
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Starting point is 00:18:19 My 26 male girlfriend, 28 female is an actress who played a pleasure girl in Game of Thrones. Mude. How do I get my friends to shut the hell up about it? So I mean, I don't know how much to elaborate. My girlfriend is an actress and has had a few roles, but mostly background stuff. She's also a substitute teacher and a server at a diner. So I hate this idea that things she's done on screen define her because she works so hard to try and get her dream career off the ground.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I don't know the exact time, 10 years ago maybe when she filmed, but she was hired to play several background roles in Game of Thrones and spent several months in both England and Croatia on set. Unreal. Pretty dope. One of the things she did was be a pleasure girl in Littlefinger's brothel. If you know when to look, it's obvious who she is. She's fully nude and implied sexual activity with another girl.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Two of my friends saw this and asked her. She said yes. Now, it's spread around my friend group like a wildfire. It sucks that all of my friends have seen my girlfriends naked, but their comments suck more. Some are annoying about what it was like to film, others are just perverted. They do it with and without her around. When she's not around, it's a lot more vulgar.
Starting point is 00:19:35 What can I do to get them to stop? I get so mad and I think they find it funny. I feel trapped. What can I do? Well, I think we shouldn't be looking at what the girlfriend did to make her dreams come true, but you should be looking at your friend group. I don't think that you should worry about what they're saying about your girlfriend. You should be worried that they are saying something to begin with.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I don't think it's like making them stop type of thing. I think it's like reevaluating that the people that you spend your time with. I also think that in general, whether it was like your girlfriend or not, just speaking about women in that way. I know some people believe in locker room talk or whatever, but it's just like, how old are you? Especially if you know I care about this person, what is the point? Honestly, she was living her best life in Croatia in the UK and what were they doing?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Getting dollar margaritas at Chili's, you know what I mean? I'm not here for the friends, but I'm here for the girl. I love Game of Thrones. You know what? I've never watched. Oh my God, it's so good. It's the one thing I've never watched. It's good.
Starting point is 00:20:44 That's going to be the most hate I get. You have some homework to do. Yeah, I do. I really do. Avoid the last season. Wait, but why? I love TV shows so much. I watch every single series and I want to watch it when I'm ready and just fully take
Starting point is 00:21:01 it in when I have time and can. You know what I mean? I know I'll be addicted to it and I'll love it. True. So my vibe. True. But I just want to wait until I'm ready. You got to get the right TV, the right sound system, do it right.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Maybe it'll be in the NFL man's house. There we go. There you go. Game of Thrones does need some PR though because that last season wrecked them and they're coming out with a new show so it might be the time. Yeah, it might be the time to watch it. What would you do if your friends acted like this, Justin? Put you on the spot.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I just wouldn't have friends that would act like this, but I guess if I ended up in the situation, I don't like, I understand if it's like someone giving you shit like the first time, like, oh, shit, like, whatever. But when it's continued, that's when it's like, I wouldn't, I don't know, I would have drawn a line a lot earlier than the constant like coming back to it. And I kind of, I've also been in the position where you push something off and you just kind of, it's easier to not engage, but like, this would start to drive me nuts. It's not that they're making her feel bad, it would be that they're making her feel bad
Starting point is 00:22:09 and it's driving me fucking crazy. Yeah. Like, it's, I don't know. It's just so degrading. And like, she's a person, I think it's so cool she was in a huge show like that. I mean, that show was like really revolutionary for a lot of people, myself included. So it's a cool plug. So it's like, yeah, okay, you can ask your questions, like, oh, you were in it?
Starting point is 00:22:28 How was it? Cool. Like, blah, blah, blah. But like then to be like perverted. Yeah. I think what you said too is good is like the first time people be like, holy shit. Like that's fucking wild. Like that's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Right. Like, look at your girl. Damn. But then like after, it would be like, okay, like, are we still fucking bringing this up? Exactly. Like what? Like do you guys have nothing else in your life that's relevant to talk about? And I'd also be like, at least I have a fucking girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Like what are you doing? Who was in the fucking Game of Thrones? True. Yeah. This to me kind of gives the vibe. Have you seen all this stuff on TikTok lately about euphoria? And like, so there's like kind of that like double standard where like it's okay to see girls naked on TV, but then like to see a guy naked on TV.
Starting point is 00:23:13 It's just like the guys are all like, ew, ew. And like having a bad taste in their mouth. So it's like, it's just like kind of a double standard coming out where it's like, she's so sexualized because of being on this show and granted, yeah, it's a sexual role, but it doesn't mean she needs to have that in her real life. I agree a hundred percent. Wild. But that's wild.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yeah. I would own that shit. I would too. Even as a guy. Like let's go. I'll take that role. You want it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Well, let's see if we can get you a background role. Two octakes on supervised. Okay. That sounds like a poor note. Don't put, yeah. It's the new channel. I gotta promote. I'm like nodding.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I'm like, yeah. I gotta promote the new channel. Okay. Got to have some like buzz about it, right? You are? Yeah. Something a little like out there. As Kim Kardashian once said, nude selfies to lie down.
Starting point is 00:24:03 There we go. We're approved. Yeah. Yeah. You got to take your nude selfies. In the wise words of Moira, you want to have something to look back on. Exactly. What's up, everybody?
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Starting point is 00:24:42 So speaking of Kardashians, this story gave me Kardashian vibes. Love it. My 22-female boyfriend, 23-male, is a professional athlete. The season has started and already the gossip is going. Here we go. My man and I have been together for about a year or so and last spring he got drafted to a major team. Of course I'm happy and excited for him but he's on the road a lot since then and I feel
Starting point is 00:25:07 like our relationship is becoming strained and he's become distant but he always chalks it up to the stress and wanting to make an impression on his team and the tough schedule he has. I could accept that and he came home a lot when he could to spend time with me and his fam and brought beautiful gifts. I couldn't make it to his first game but I made sure to watch it and tell him how proud I was of him and he made sure to tell me how lucky he was to have me. This morning I went on a forum that often talks about athletes and the tea, aka the
Starting point is 00:25:37 dirt on their personal lives and it mentioned that my man has been talking to groupies and was seen hanging out and leaving the club with a bunch of them along with some of his boys that are on the team. I'm freaking the fuck out. I send him a text to call me ASAP. My friends and everyone is telling me that he's an athlete now and quote, shit happens and that what happens on the road should stay on the road. I love him but I don't know what I should believe.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Has anyone ever dated a pro before? What am I getting myself into? Is it possible this shit is just lies or should I grill him? Okay, a couple of things. Stress is every man's side chick. I don't believe in stress. I actually think it's another bitch. So when he's saying he's stressed, he's definitely hanging out with another girl.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And I might be cynical but if it's an athlete, I think that's true. Also you really want to Jedi mind trick all of this because if you text him and say, hey call me ASAP, he's going to have his guard up, he's going to have his excuses ready. What you need to do is be like, hey, I bought some stuff at the store, I would love to FaceTime and show you. I miss you so much, let's FaceTime later to get him excited, catch him off guard and then when you have him on the screen where you can see his facial expressions, if his nostrils are flaring, it means he's lying and confront him about the situation.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Also I would love to know what this forum is because this sounds like something I would read on a Tuesday night before I go to bed. I love the tea forum. At the end of the day, I think there are good guys, I think there are good athletes but where there's smoke, there's fire. People don't just make up stuff about athletes leaving clubs, obviously it's a known thing that athletes leave clubs with girls but for somebody to take the time and effort to put it out there, it's like I would be a little skeptical about that.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Yeah, definitely. I have a couple things on my mind. I am stressed a lot so I don't know what that means but I do get stressed. Scary. You do get stressed. Oh yeah. But I think I have to play devil's advocate in the sense that there's nothing necessarily saying that something was wrong and I know many cases where even you have ended up at
Starting point is 00:27:58 guys' houses with all of your girlfriends after a night at the club. And so it's like is that, at what point are you going to start, I mean I feel like there needs to be more before it's like you're wrong because yes, you are in that circle, the same things in music and I think that you end up in these situations, you get pulled from party to party and whatever, it just depends on how you act and how you react to that situation. But I think if it were me, I'd probably be a little more upfront because we're just so in touch where I'd be like, hey, I know I was going to come back but we're going to X by Z, it's not like a big secret and she's not going to hear from friends, oh we went
Starting point is 00:28:40 back with girls. So I don't know. It's an interesting situation. It would be also helpful to know the context of the gossip, the tea, the websites because it said that he's been known to be like talking to groupies so it's like are they just leaving a club or do girls have receipts type of thing. So I'm going to be honest, I used to look at these websites. What is it?
Starting point is 00:29:03 So it's like WAGs. It's like wives and girlfriends and so it would literally have, it was almost like a reddit style blog that had, Tristan Thompson on the cover every month. He probably is nowadays, yeah. That's why it reminded me. I'm like, this is Chloe, this is poor Chloe. But I think they're pretty accurate. They actually post the screenshots from girls, they have pictures of guys leaving clubs and
Starting point is 00:29:28 I'm like in my head after this, I'm like, I wasn't a groupie, I didn't sleep with them. But we would go out with the kings here in LA all the time. And a couple of them that were married, had kids at home, would grab my friends and start dancing with them and there was another one that was getting engaged or was engaged in getting married in a couple weeks or something and I had a friend visiting from Minnesota and they hooked up. And I'm like, yeah, when I lived in LA, I was in the club scene and I know a lot of girls that hooked up with athletes who have wives and kids.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I was always the friend getting tagged along with like the cousin in the back of the Uber. But if the cousin wants to hit me up, I'm single. But yeah, no, I've seen it happen so much, so much. Especially when they're new and they're rookies and they're trying to impress the guys and trying to fit in. I would fully believe, like you said, where there's smoke, there's fire, especially with this one and unfortunately, she needs to find herself a Pete Davidson. We all need a Pete Davidson.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I got mine right here. Me too. Wait, no, Ryan. Soon. Soon. After this drops. Soon. That's right.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Okay. Yeah. I mean, the top comment, honestly, this poor girl is clearly struggling, like she's replying to everyone's comments, but the top one is like speaking to someone that dated an athlete for a minute. I would tell you to proceed with caution. Groupies are everywhere. Holy God, are they everywhere?
Starting point is 00:31:07 The stories I've heard and some of the behaviors I've witnessed and nothing short of incredible. And I've dated a musician too. The temptation is very real. The guy dated personally fit the gossip and stereotypes to a T. Isn't it crazy how somebody's career can make them more fuckable? It's like, imagine if we acted this way about like electricians. Librarian. Like literally, it's like, oh my God, he's a fucking electrician.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Right. I need to talk to him. Like it's all because they bounce a fucking ball. I know. Like what? That is interesting. It's wild. And like electrician is cooler.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Like tech people make a shit ton of money, but we're not like, oh my God, like a tech, like code me. Like, you know what I mean? It's more the limelight. Right? Yeah. But is that what you want? Like do you want to be with somebody that everybody wants?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Like that's just, I don't know. You think you do when you're like, when you're that age, like in hindsight, I'm like, you think you do. But like tech bro, speaking of like when I was single, I actually was so, so close to moving to Seattle because I went there for like a little girls weekend and on the trip, the tour guide of like the duck, the water duck that like it's a truck, but then goes in the water. We had those in Boston.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah. They're so fucking cool. But he was like, honestly, girls, it's like you guys are single. There is a 13 to one guide, a girl ratio in the city. So feel free to move here and have your pick. I was so close. So you're telling me to move to Seattle. No, you weren't.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I was so close. No way. Yeah. That doesn't sound like you at all. I was so close. I thought it'd be so fun. I had a friend that lived there, my friend Bree, and I was like, she's loving it. I loved it when I visited.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I was like, I'm going to go live there. Okay. Time to move. I was like, no, we're going to have you here. You're too much fun. Okay. What? I was late to the party on that one.
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Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah. This is good. I, 26 female, have just started dating a longtime friend of mine, 28 male. We know pretty much everything about each other, and so far, the relationship has just been a dream. The other night, however, we were talking about celebrity hall passes over dinner as a joke. He said, Margot Roby.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I think that's how you say it. Robbie. Robbie. He said, Margot Robbie, which is a great pick if I do say so myself, I then said mine, who admittedly is someone who has already slid into my DMs and I've been talking to for quite a while. We live on two very different continents and he's pretty busy all the time with different events.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And so we haven't actually hooked up. Boyfriend got super offended and mad that I would pick someone that I can potentially sleep with while his is entirely theoretical. Am I the asshole? Is this like an X1 direction member? I feel like this is like Louis Thompson or however you say it, written all over it. Cause like, same, I'm just kidding, but one, how does your boyfriend know that you have him in his phone?
Starting point is 00:34:22 Like, is he aware of this situation? Are you super upfront about it? When was the last time that it happened? Also like, I don't know, like the whole concept of like a celebrity hall pass is like, your kind of giving, being giving the opportunity to be like, I think this person is hot and I'm allowed to say that cause they're my quote hall pass. It's not like, oh, I can actively pursue this person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And like, I wouldn't even let my boyfriend have a celebrity hall pass. I'd be like, you're going to detention, like no hall pass. Like you can't use the bathroom. Like you literally have to sign out when you go to the bathroom and come back with me. There's no hall pass. Like it's like, I would watch you walk in and out of the bathroom, but that's a whole other story. What are your thoughts on it?
Starting point is 00:35:05 I think this is like one of the most asshole-ish stories I've ever heard. I think like the fact too that she says they're still talking, like they're still talking and I've been talking to her for quite a while. So it's not like he slid into her DMs. That's the other thing too. Oh wait, the guy has the girl? The girl was, um, DM'd by the celebrity. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:28 So it's the girlfriend. Yeah. Okay. That's what I thought. Yeah. So this is like the most attainable celebrity hall pass you could have. Like you already know he wants it. We wouldn't have slid into your DMs otherwise.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah. Like imagine who's Harry Styles. I don't know. I'll live you a while. Better watch out. Yeah. So it's like you, you're being a dick when like Margot is someone who is like married with a baby so out of this world unattainable, whereas like yours is like you could have
Starting point is 00:35:54 it if you wanted. Literally. So essentially you're just like looking to cheat by picking that person. That's what I'm saying. Like what's the point of even ringing this up in the conversation? You know what I mean? Exactly. It's like who do you guys want to cheat on each other with?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah. I would cheat on this person. No. Your cheatable person is more attainable. It's like let's like just like not talk about who you would cheat with. Like let's be like you look really cute tonight. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah. I don't know. It almost makes it seem like she wanted to plug it. That's what I'm saying. Like she wanted to like break like this guy wants me. I actually have his number. We talk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's just weird. It's very weird. I'm not into it. I don't like it. Yeah. No. I would not forget that for a long time. I feel like.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Yeah. Because then anything now becomes sketchy. Right. Yeah. As soon as something like that happens. Oh me and the girls are taking a trip over to Europe. Just a girl. Then you're like okay.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Sure you are. Instead of just being all right. Have fun. Then she'd be like I've been really stressed. I need to go to Europe. Yeah. So stressed. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah. This is bad. I need to let off some steam. No. Exactly. Yeah. Top comment. You're the asshole.
Starting point is 00:37:02 He literally has no chance of banging Margot. You potentially have a shot at your celebrity hall pass because you're DMing him. I'd be pissed too if I was in your boyfriend's position. You're the asshole. This is a theoretical game to most people. Don't pick someone you could actually fuck. Truth. Which like yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Like granted. I just like I have some like guy friends that like played and play in the NHL and that would be like me being like oh Justin like I'm going to put so and so on my pass. And it's like. To be like me picking a music artist. You know. Yeah. It's too.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah. Like why? Why people? Why? Into it. So silly. There's like one more that's like on the celebrity theme and then the rest are getting I'm introducing you to my realm.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Love it. Of just juicy weird Reddit and damage control. I'm here for it. You know honestly I've never been like that big of like a Reddit girlie but I've gotten a little bit more into it now. I love my favorite Reddit like whatever it's called is the producer from the Jersey Shore who did. Oh that'd be crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah. So the producers from the Jersey Shore did like an AMA and I love reality TV and she answered everything like about all of the seasons like were they doing drugs like who was actually hooking up like what's the real story behind it and it's so interesting I was on it for hours and then I used to watch this so called Kid Nation growing up literally nobody's seen it but they took 50 kids and put them on this set. I think it's actually outside of LA but it's like where they used to shoot a bunch of like Western movies you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And they put 50 kids there no adults obviously besides the camera crew with like no food like nothing and made them like come up with like civilization. It got canceled because one of the girls like burned her arm on like this like steel thing cooking. They chopped off the chicken's head to make chicken like this is it's called Kid Nation you guys. You guys need to watch it. It was on like NBC like it was normal I watched when I was little and there's like so much
Starting point is 00:39:05 Reddit information of people who are on Kid Nation. Oh my God. So those are the types of Reddit that I dive into but I'm extremely excited to hear your world of Reddit because mine is like very niche and very weird. We're gonna have to have you back and you can prepare the stories for me or something. Yeah. No you'll love it. I mean I wonder if like any of those kids sued for like emotional or mental damage because
Starting point is 00:39:28 during quarantine during COVID they all started popping up on Tik Tok and like rewatching the episodes and reacting like you know how people do that. Yeah. So they look okay like they definitely probably have some emotional damage. Are they like our age? Yeah. They are like we're on 27. Kid Nation.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Okay. I'm gonna find it. You're gonna love it. I'm so excited. Okay. So next am I the asshole for bringing my fiance to Christmas despite my famous cousin's wishes. My cousin is very famous. Yes you have heard of him and no I won't tell you who he is.
Starting point is 00:40:07 We'll call him Terry. When we have family functions mainly for holidays Terry likes for them to be only family so he can quote be himself and get drunk and pass out on the couch and share Hollywood gossip with us. Otherwise he feels like he is being interviewed and having everyone talk to him or want a picture and he has to be in promo mode. He said it's because he was tired of having to meet strangers and not be able to let loose and there were some issues of these partners taking pics of him or spreading gossip.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I hated this at first because I would be dating some chick and she would want to get to meet him and it's awkward to tell them that they can't come to family events and they get mad that they never get to meet him. My Tinder has a pic of me and Terry but I get it so I'm fine with it until this year. I began dating this chick in August. I couldn't bring her to Thanksgiving fine but when I walk in I see another cousin Danielle has brought her boyfriend Steve even though they've been together for less than a year. They got together over New Year's and engaged on Halloween.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Terry was fine with this because he's met Steve before old family friend even though I've been told that no exceptions are allowed to this rule. Thanksgiving sucked because the whole time I was mad that I once again wasn't allowed to bring my girlfriend. My girlfriend consoled me after and I realized that she is my soulmate. Two weeks ago I proposed and we got engaged. Whoa. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Moved fast. Yeah. Christmas was at my aunts. I'm a believer in quote, ask for forgiveness not permission. So I brought my fiance because she had nowhere else to go and I wanted her to meet my family. We walk into the house and all hell breaks loose. Everyone was asking who she was and scolded me about the rules and Terry flipped out. He was already buzzed and looked 20 pounds heavier than he usually presents himself.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Ouch. And started yelling at me for doing this to him. He didn't seem excited at all about my engagement or willing to introduce himself to her. Our grandma was telling Terry to get over it and asking to see the ring and saying she wished she had gotten my fiance a gift. So grandma was on my side. But Terry was still arguing with me and said I shouldn't be allowed at any more events and he ended up calling an Uber black and leaving before we even ate to top it all off.
Starting point is 00:42:29 My uncle who has never even liked Terry got upset because apparently Terry was his secret Santa. So he didn't get a gift. So my uncle started blaming me for ruining Christmas. I get they are mad but it was clear there was an exception for fiance's and I'm embarrassed that my family was so rude to her when I just didn't want her to be alone on Christmas. This sounds like a fucked up version of the family stone like this is like I don't even think Terry's the issue.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I know which issue do you want to dive into first like where there's the leaving Christmas in an Uber black before dinner issue specifically an Uber black like it's stated. Terry's weight issue is like I don't think that needs to be spoken about. It's hard times out here. Yeah. Like a few pounds here and there never hurt anybody. This situation is extremely, extremely niche but somehow I feel like we can all kind of relate to it because we all fight during the holidays with our families.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Well I mean I do sometimes I do and I just think that like Terry isn't the issue like I think there's a lot more to this and also red flag number one if you have a famous family member or if you like take a picture with Alex Cooper from Caller Daddy and put it on your hinge to try to get pussy like grow up first and foremost and coming from a 27 year old two single. Yeah. But like I just it's like he loves he's in love with Terry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:06 He like loves having Terry but like hates having Terry. He's true. Terry can eat it too. Very jealous. You can't have your Terry. You need it too. Nope. You cannot.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Well Terry can eat too because he's getting home away but like I'm here for it. Yeah. It gets worse you guys. There's more? There are more. So I dove into some of the comments. Is Terry in the comments? Terry did not come to the comments but I love when that happens.
Starting point is 00:44:33 It's my favorite. So top one you're the asshole. You could have asked. You could also not use your famous cousin as a pick on Tinder. Good job Robert. Wait can I just ask do we feel sympathy for Terry? Yeah. I don't know if sympathy is the word for what I have for Terry but I don't know I feel
Starting point is 00:45:00 a little bad for him because from a just like a standpoint of like knowing celebrities and loving them and like going into their lives and their psychology. I feel like Terry definitely got famous when he was young, like when he was like a teen and I think when that happens you have a lot of trust issues as you grow older even with family. So if I was what's Terry's cousin name who wrote in did they say their name? They never did. If I was him I would tell the fiance a fake rumor about Terry two weeks before Christmas
Starting point is 00:45:38 and see if she leaks it. If she doesn't leak it I would bring that evidence to Terry over lunch and I would be like look like she's a real one like I gave her this piece of information she did nothing with it. Show Terry he can relax a little bit but also like it must be weird being like extremely famous and then getting shit based at your Christmas with like strangers there. I feel for Terry a little bit but it's not just Terry's issue. It's not.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I think my biggest red flag is the fact that they met in August Thanksgiving he was already like I'm so sad she can't be here and then December like they're engaged. So it's like that timeline to me like I get love is love and when you know you know sometimes but like a little weird. Speaking of leaks the next comment on this post so it comes out through OP's comments that he didn't tell his family about the engagement early on because he's been engaged in the past. So OP says I didn't tell them about the engagement because I knew they would be critical because
Starting point is 00:46:45 my previous engagements plural didn't end up working out and someone goes how many times have you been engaged? True. Multiple times so this is the third. They then go on to say twice before once when I was 19 and an idiot so that didn't work out then again later on and I thought she was the one but it ended when she sent a story about Terry to TMZ to make a quick buck hence Terry's rule. Okay you see I think Terry is the underdog.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Terry is not the issue. No. Terry is trust issues. We all do. Yeah. I like your little suggestion of like to trust people start giving them fake stories and seeing if it comes out. I learned that from Jersey Shore this season where they go to Italy, Mike makes up a fake
Starting point is 00:47:36 rumor to see how fast it can go around but that's what you gotta do sometimes. I love it. I think that's a great strategy. I feel like they've done that on like maybe it was like The Godfather or like some old movie they're like they give three different people a different story and then whatever one starts circulating they know who the mole is. I did that in high school. Kind of.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah. So OP clearly has some insecurities like people were calling him out for the Tinder picture and they go I get plenty of matches on my own but it's a good conversation style. Okay. Sure. So is Terry's weight for him? Like he needs to reevaluate his conversation starters. Like there's so many details that didn't need to be included and the weight was definitely
Starting point is 00:48:30 one of the biggest ones. Yeah. Like Terry is fat phobic. I'm just, I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no Terry. OP. OP. And I'm not here for that. No.
Starting point is 00:48:40 It's pretty disgusting. That's like one thing I love about like the podcast. It's like, like I have friends that will ask me and they're like you're famous and I'm like, no, like I just have like, I just have a cute little podcast. Yeah. But like I've only gotten recognized like once and it is like so nice that I can still go out and like grocery shop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And it just, it feels really good. But it's so weird with the world of social media and Tik Tok, it's like there's two types of famous, but getting recognized is definitely weird, but like I will never be a Terry. I sympathize for Terry, but I'll never be a Terry. I'll get drunk with anybody on Christmas. Oh, I see what you're saying. I'm just saying I probably wouldn't want to be a Terry.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Yeah. Even if music exploded in some way on the other side, I like, I don't necessarily want to live that life by choice. Yeah. I don't think I would. Yeah. I can see how it would be challenging because especially because of stuff like this. Justice for Terry.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I mean, you're seeing like one example of a struggle of that life, right? Yeah. And I'm not saying it's a hard life being famous, but I think there are downsides to it that a lot of people don't recognize. 100%. Yeah. I think like, I mean, look at Tristan Thompson, like in Chloe, like Chloe's famous, has it all, and then she still can't get Amanda B faithful to her.
Starting point is 00:49:57 She needs to be done. It's honestly at this point, like I feel bad, but it's also like this is the second baby outside of your marriage or like multiple cheating, but like first, I guess first baby after true hot mess, hot fucking garbage mess. But I hope Terry is happy and enjoying drunk holidays, letting loose. Yeah. If he wants to enjoy some tequila shots and a slice of cake over the holidays and he doesn't feel safe around his family, Terry can come over to him.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I think that actually might be doable for you because OP does mention something about Massachusetts. Oh, is this Ben Affleck? I'm not sure. I think it is. There we go. I think it is. We solved the mystery.
Starting point is 00:50:46 He put on a little bit of weight like last year, now that he's with J Loey slimmed down a little bit. Okay. I'm the mole. So the smoking gun will be if you can find the Tinder picture. Yes. Oh. If you come across the Tinder picture.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Oh my God. I literally be like, stop talking shit about Terry. Just attack him, but he's engaged now, so off the market. Maybe. Yeah. For now. Yeah. For now.
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Starting point is 00:51:56 Am I the asshole for hiding embarrassing notes in my house as a joke because I know my fiance's mom snoops. I bought a house seven years ago and I met my fiance, Al, four years ago. This year he moved in. We're talking about making it a home for both of us. But as of now, he hasn't moved much stuff in. Right now, 95% of the stuff and furniture in the house is mine. When his mom comes over, she's kind of a snoop.
Starting point is 00:52:22 He was used to that, but when she comes over to our house, it's so uncomfortable because she's just going through my shit. When I am bothered, she's like, oh, I was just helping with chores, et cetera. He said I should just let her because she has, quote, a lot of nervous energy. One thing she snooped on was actually embarrassing. In my home office, I had a little affirmation post-it note on my monitor saying, quote, I am smart. I am skilled.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I am deserving of great things. It was a silly thing. My therapist recommended to get me in a confident mindset before an interview. Anyways, she made a comment too about my ego, but as a joke, I decided to do it again. I had my best friend over and we got wine drunk and wrote a bunch of affirmations to hide. Some were in the medicine cabinet. My teeth will regrow.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I am shark-like and powerful. Kitchen drawers. I know when to spoon, but I also know when to fork. I am sexy and self-assured. Work desk. I will not just fuck my way to the top of the company. I will fuck my way to the top of the world. I am beautiful with clothes and without, especially without.
Starting point is 00:53:39 My boobs are legendary. There was a bunch more and my friend and I had a hilarious time writing them. Next time my mother-in-law came over, she saw a few and she didn't acknowledge them to me even though she definitely started acting a little weird around me. I went to run some errands and when I was out, she confronted Al about the notes and was trying to tell him that I seemed unstable, egotistical and moving in was a bad idea. She showed him the notes and he didn't really know what to make of it. He asked me and I said they were just some silly private notes to boost my self-confidence
Starting point is 00:54:16 and make myself laugh. How had she gotten them? Had she been going through my things? He said she was just tidying and saw them and they were real weird. I was like, have you met me? You should know how weird I am. Anyways, if you don't want your mom seeing my weird shit, you've got to stop letting her go through my shit.
Starting point is 00:54:37 He asked if I left them on purpose to annoy her and I admitted that was kind of the joke. But I also have other weird and private shit so what I said about her needing to stop snooping if she didn't want to find weird crap was still for real. He said I was making stuff hard for him. His mom was really protective and adjusting to him moving in with a girlfriend for the first time and I was agitating her on purpose and making her think I wouldn't be a good partner when he wanted her to have the opposite impression of me. Am I the asshole for the note prank?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Hell no. Well, it's like who wrote the note, like on Jersey Shore, not to bring it back to that. But I think whenever you're writing anonymous notes, shit hits the fan as we've seen in reality TV and in her closet. Sam, when you left. At the first night, Ronnie had his face in between a cocktail waitress's breast. I think that the problem in a lot of these problems isn't necessarily the mom snooping but I think maybe there's tension or resentment there between the girlfriend and the boyfriend
Starting point is 00:55:50 about the mom being there and her being in their space and them not really being able to properly communicate about it. I don't know about this one. I think it's weird that the mom is snooping. I think it's funny that the girl is doing it but I don't really know where I would go from there. You know what I mean? Yeah, how do you damage control this?
Starting point is 00:56:11 I would say I would write an apology note and maybe ask her to go to lunch in the apology note and if she finds it, you can kind of both be like, look, I was wrong for writing this. Look, I was wrong for snooping. Let's get on a better relationship. We're both going to be here and let's not write little notes and then maybe have an Etsy person make one of those cheesy TJ Max signs that's like, I am woman, I am beautiful and have the girlfriend give it to the mom and be like, this is for snooping.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I like this compromise on the note. Well, I like that as a solution but I fucking love this move. I think it's hilarious. I love doing it. I love if something's bothering you and I feel like to go to this level, I think it has been brought up to the boyfriend probably and he just shoves it off because he doesn't want to deal with his mom and so I love the fact that she did it because it's directly exposing the problem and saying, look, here's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Where do you think the fucking notes came from and the boyfriend comes to the conclusion on his own? I like that it levels the playing field in a sense and then the damage control. There's something about it that I just love the pettiness of it. I love it. I love being petty. Is this malicious compliance? This might be a little malicious compliance happening here, which is like my new favorite
Starting point is 00:57:31 word lately. I just have no idea what that means. So essentially it's like your boss being like, you can't leave if you aren't done with all your work or I don't know, I'm butchering this. Oh my God. What was the example? Oh, okay. So I had a story recently where it was like this girl writing in like, am I the asshole
Starting point is 00:57:48 for messing up Thanksgiving? And so her partner's mom hated her and called her by the wrong name all the time. So her name was Jenny. The mom was calling her Janet. And so she goes, oh yeah, Janet should make the turkey for Thanksgiving. And she goes, oh yeah, Janet should. That's a great idea. Thanksgiving comes.
Starting point is 00:58:07 She shows up without a turkey and they go, what the fuck? You were supposed to make the turkey. And she's like, I thought Janet was because her name was Jenny. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Malicious compliance. But this feels like the boyfriend was like, oh, just ignore it or fiance, like just ignore
Starting point is 00:58:23 it. It's fine. She's just nervous. And then she's like, well, I'm just going to fuck shit up and keep writing my notes. Yeah. No, I agree. I think it was petty, but like funny and not, it didn't hurt anybody in the end. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:37 And now's the time to resolve. Like you said. Yeah, exactly. If you continue down that path, you're going to drive the wedge. But yeah. Yep. Yeah. I think I'm going to go with the boy red flags with this one though.
Starting point is 00:58:47 This is what I'm saying. I think there's a little bit of a deeper issue than just like the notes. Oh yeah. Mama's boy that cannot draw boundaries because if like your mom was going through my underwear drawer, like we would shut that shit down. And the fact that he can't, like she's putting these notes in pretty like hidden places by the sounds of it. Like her bras, she found the one in her bra drawer.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Like your mom, yeah, shouldn't be going through there. No. Right. Like, oh, she's just really protective and adjusting to him moving in with a girlfriend for the first time. They're engaged. This is your fiance. Maybe the last guy, Terry's ex-fiance is his other ex too.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Oh gosh. You know what I mean? It could all come full circle. You never know with these stories. You never know. That would be crazy. Condacting to random ass stories. She's leaving Terry notes being like, I am sober.
Starting point is 00:59:44 I am skinny. Poor Terry. I know. I love him. So much. Terry's my type. Terry, out of all these people, I think Terry's my type. Terry sounds like a good time, honestly.
Starting point is 00:59:59 So top comment on this one. Not the asshole. She's snooping through your home. I'd have gone further and left little notes like, quote, nobody likes a snoop and quote, you aren't welcome to go through my things. But yours were pretty damn funny. It's a red flag if your fiance stands up for her invading your privacy like this. You agree?
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah. OP responds back, I was thinking a set of butt plugs increasing in size to the absurd would be pretty funny, but pointed notes could be funny too. Yeah. I feel so frustrated because he was okay with her doing it in his apartment because she actually would help with laundry and dishes and he appreciated that. But in my house, it's different because it's not his stuff there. It's not even our stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:44 It's 95% mine because I've lived there for seven years. So when she's going through the house, it's not his stuff or even shared. She's going through mine. I think on the not funny side of things, I might just sit her down and say, I've lived alone for six years. I live in a way that makes my home feel like a home. And part of that is not keeping anything, but the living room and guest bathroom presentable for guests.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I'm uncomfortable with her as my guest going into other rooms without asking or looking at my stuff beyond fair to like sit her down and say that 100% beyond fair. Yeah. Everyone's on her side. Overall vote was not the asshole. And it has easily two, I'm bad at math, but I see 72, 72, 42 and a bunch of others. Like the most I've ever seen. That's yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Like they give awards for the post for like, if they're good. Oh, wow. Yeah. That looks like Neopets. It's kind of like what TikTok's doing, I guess a little bit now. Yeah. TikTok's doing it, right? Oh, if you do lives, you can get like fun years and like roses and stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Yeah. Certain platforms are starting to do it, but I think it was OG and Reddit. Yeah. I like that. So not the asshole. I think I've got two more for you. Okay. Oh gosh.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I got one. So I want to pick though. Okay. We'll do this one. Sorry. I'll scare everyone here. As it comes. You're crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Am I the asshole for walking around my house in lingerie? So my husband, male 34 and I, female 28, got married recently and moved into our new home. The neighborhood is nice and quiet and the neighbors are really nice, except for this family that lives right next to us. Although we just got back from our honeymoon, I still wear lingerie and sometimes walk around in them when I wake up in the morning, when making coffee or breakfast. The other day I was in the kitchen preparing coffee while my husband was out and I heard a knock on the door.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I immediately went to grab my robe long before answering. I opened the door and found our next door neighbor. I asked how he was doing and he told me that his seven year old kids window is facing our living room and since his daughter uses binoculars, she saw me wearing inappropriate clothes while walking around in the living room. I was taken aback. Turns out his daughter uses her binoculars to supposedly watch the yard, but she obviously peeped through our large glass windows to see inside even though we have curtains on.
Starting point is 01:03:14 My neighbor said that wasn't cool and his daughter just saw something. She cannot unsee and that is not appropriate. I asked him what he meant and he requested that I be a little considerate when it comes to clothing or lack of. But I thought that was just ridiculous since that is in my home. I argued that this is my house and I get to wear whatever I want and also his daughter had no business peeping. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:03:39 He said she's just a kid and didn't mean any harm. Went as far as to say she was just being curious. I said sorry but you're going to have to leave. He did not take it well and implied that he'd take steps to ensure I don't expose his daughter to stuff like that in the future. He left and I just thought my entire day was ruined especially after he said he'd bring this incident to the neighborhood's group attention. I told my husband what happened when he got home and he agreed with our neighbor saying
Starting point is 01:04:08 that I should just leave the lingerie in the room where it belongs and learn to put some decent clothes on before getting out of the bedroom to avoid these types of incidents. He also said I was wrong to speak to our neighbors like that and that if he was in his shoes and his kid witnessed that he'd be just as furious if not more. So we should cut our neighbors some slack. I feel like I was the asshole for how I handled the situation but I think since I'm in my own home then why can't I wear what I want and to be carefree. I'm confused.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Am I the asshole? Okay, I have not heard the word binoculars in like so long so that was fun for me. This is fucking bizarre. I think there was a horror movie just made about this. I forget who was in it. I think it was on Amazon Prime. About Pippin' Tom's? It was about this couple that used to watch their neighbors and then they watched their
Starting point is 01:05:07 neighbor kill the girlfriend and some great stuff. Oh my gosh. You know what I'm talking about. I feel like I saw the trailer for us. And then she lived in her home and was like a recluse. Yes. Yeah. So this is like the PG-13 version of that.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Bizarre. Weird. If I was the girlfriend I would be looking at my boyfriend differently. I would be looking at my neighbors differently. I would be looking at myself differently. I just think this is so fucking weird and I would turn to the neighbor and be like, okay, I walk around in the house in my underwear, but your kids are using binoculars to look into other people's houses and that is like, what is that word?
Starting point is 01:05:52 Not avoiding somebody's privacy. Violating. Violating somebody's privacy. That is the bigger issue here. Yes. Not on the seven-year-old with binoculars. She's probably just playing around, but to take this to that extent and I'm not here for it.
Starting point is 01:06:06 No. You had the perfect opportunity to educate your child about what a Pippin' Tom is. Yeah. 100%. The fact that it's illegal. Yeah. Well, in regard, yeah. It's illegal.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Yeah. But living, growing up on a lake, you look out at the lake with the binoculars because there's always wildlife and shit. But you're not going to your neighbor. No. Right. But it's like a kid. It's just a kid with binoculars.
Starting point is 01:06:26 That's the time you would just have a conversation with your kid. Not go over to the neighbor's house and tell them they're doing something wrong. They could even be outside in their laundry and it's not a problem. Yeah. Like I'm not... Like not in the front yard, I guess, but... And the laundry's also like a bikini too. It's like the same.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Right. These kids don't go to the pool? I know. I'm envisioning like just like a lacy like night dress. So it's like a dress that has like lace on the top. That's like what I was envisioning. I'm not envisioning like she's walking around with like garters on and stuff. She could walk around naked in her house though.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Yeah. Yeah. I think in this whole story, I think I'm the most mad with the husband. That's what I'm saying. So what's the issue there? You know what I mean? Right. That's weird.
Starting point is 01:07:07 So you guys dream to have like your hot new wife just like walking around in lingerie all the time? Yeah. Like... Aren't you supposed to fuck like in every room? Yeah. On every surface? I know.
Starting point is 01:07:19 It just seems... Yeah. It just seems unusual. He's either very scared of conflict and is very weird about like neighbor interactions and following the rules. So he's like bowing down to what they think, but come on. Yeah. This is the time where you stick...
Starting point is 01:07:35 Like this is such a simple thing to stick up for your wife? Yeah. Wife. Yeah. Right. Like... Yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Damage control. What do you do? Bake him some brownies? Sorry about the confrontation, but don't look in my fucking window. Here's some brownies. I think damage control is like I would go over there and I would be like... I would say exactly what I was just saying earlier. I'd be like, look, walking around in your lingerie in your house that you own is not
Starting point is 01:08:02 a crime violating somebody's privacy is. This is not the kid's issue. This is your issue and like we need to talk about this moving forward because if everything I do in my house is going to be viewed, then like that's a fucking issue. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'd be like, what do you do in your house that you don't want anybody to see? I completely agree.
Starting point is 01:08:21 The fact she has curtains on her windows and stuff too. I don't know. Maybe buy the kid like a magnifying glass and an ant farm or like a puzzle. Or slime. Slime. Yeah. Get him on TikTok. Get him on TikTok or YouTube with the goo factory.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Yeah. If you guys got a good YouTube channel for kids, get on it. Top comment. Not the asshole. And shame on your husband for siding with your neighbor over you. In the privacy of your own home, you can wear whatever you want to wear. The neighbor should be chastising his daughter for peeping in your home instead of trying to control a grown woman's choice of dress in her own home.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Maybe he's just jealous that his wife doesn't do that. Agreed. Projecting. Projecting for sure. For a second though, I wondered if the wife was like, you need to go over there and talk to them. Oh, his wife. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Like potentially. And then so he's now like, maybe he didn't even want to, but he has to go. But then you could honestly, then I think if that happens, then you have the conversation like, listen, I know it's not a problem. She sent me over here. So I'm just coming over to do whatever. Then you're not so adamant. So I guess maybe not because he was very, very adamant.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Okay. It was really confrontational. The rest of this top comment goes on. If this lunatic does bring this to the attention of your neighbors and anyone has the courage to confront you, I just get really offended and ask point blank. Do I tell you what to wear when you're in the privacy of your own home? Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:46 No. So I'd appreciate that same respect back. True. Yeah. OP said, thank you so much. Someone goes, not the asshole and show these comments to your husband. Ouch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Weird. Just weird to me. But that situation's fucked up. So goofy. You got to be a team, people. Got to be a team, team player. Okay. Last one.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I'm going to let you pick. Okay. Am I the asshole for laughing hysterically after a date kept insisting to me that women have periods from their butts or am I the asshole for my response to my sister's boyfriend's brutal honesty? Let's do sister's brutal honesty. Wow. Not period butts.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Okay. My female 35 sister, female 27, started dating one of those, quote, brutally honest guys a few months ago. He can be quite rude and make backhanded comments about me and the family sometimes, which is bothersome. But my sister says he's not malicious, but is just the brutally honest type and we should get used to it. I visited my parents' house to celebrate my sister's birthday and my husband couldn't
Starting point is 01:11:02 come with me because he was busy. After the party, we all sat down for dinner and my sister's boyfriend said it was weird that my husband and I don't have kids despite being married for six years now. I was shocked that he brought this up, but I gave a short answer stating that it's because of infertility issues. He asked on which side and I didn't want to answer, but my sister said it's on my side. I got uncomfortable as he looked at me for a second and said that maybe not having kids now is a good thing because he thought women over 30 might produce defective babies due
Starting point is 01:11:38 to age. Wow. Title, title didn't really get into it. Yeah. I thought it was going to be a guy who was like, that shirt makes you look fat. Not like the defective baby comments. Yeah. We're not done that either.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Oh God. It was none of his business, but he said that he was giving his honest opinion and that's all I in return told him while maintaining eye contact. Trust me. If I wanted an asshole's opinion, I would have farted. That's a line in John Tucker must I literally everyone at the table burst it into laughter and my sister and her boyfriend were stunned. A few seconds later, her boyfriend excused himself out and my sister followed, then sent
Starting point is 01:12:21 me a text after they left saying I was mean and disrespectful towards her boyfriend and insulted him maliciously just cause he stated his honest opinion. She also said I ruined her birthday by being petty and making her boyfriend the joke of the night in front of the family. I didn't respond, but she demanded an apology via mail as soon as possible. Mom agreed that I shouldn't have said what I said and should have just ignored him knowing how he is. I think I'm the asshole, but I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Another letter situation that might hit the fan. There's a couple of things I could say about this. First and foremost, that man is the scum of the earth. He's lower than Tristan Thompson, but also I kind of weirdly see the mom side because sometimes when people are so out of their mind and just so mean and so wrong, nothing you say is going to stop them from being that way and it's not your fault that your sister is dating this man. She used to deal with him and if you have to be around him and be civil for the family,
Starting point is 01:13:32 I wouldn't suggest going into him because it's going to do nothing. Maybe being like, whoa, that crossed the line. You know what I mean? But trying to change his behavior, I don't think it's going to happen. No, he's an absolute psychopath. That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't go after him or try to change his behavior. Just know obviously he's wrong and I'm right and I'm just going to let this freak be with
Starting point is 01:13:54 my sister if she's not going to end it. I can't do anything over that. I can't control that situation. No. Well, to add to that, I think he is not going to take that as a reality check like you'd hope. He's going to take it as, well, I didn't do anything wrong. I was just giving my honest opinion.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Exactly. And so she's a terrible person now and it's just going to make it probably worse now going forward. Exactly. Because on another note, I don't understand how people get that far in life without realizing that they're being a complete asshole and that nobody likes that shit. Nobody loves the overly honest, oh, I'm East Coast or whatever. I'm just straightforward.
Starting point is 01:14:33 I'm East Coast. I'm not. I lived. I know. I lived in New York. I have the perspective of, I have the West Coast, East Coast and Middle and I just feel like. But using that as an excuse to be honest.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I'm here all the time. People and people who aren't from the East Coast a lot will say, oh, it's just, you know, they're East Coast. They're straightforward, whatever. And I think, yes, there's a certain degree to that that is amazing. And I love that. And I have brought that into my life too, because being straightforward in some situations is necessary.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Exactly. Yeah. But to a certain degree, because there's a level of honesty that never needs to be, like you never, you need to get to that level. No. I've never talked about this before. Like you should not ask about people's, like when they're going to have children. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:19 If they're expecting, if you think they look pregnant, everything about that. Just don't fucking ask until someone tells you and like, don't ask people when they're having kids. You never know when they're struggling with, you know, fertility issues. Which is horrible. The fact. Like horrible. Well, the fact that he like, okay, he asked, it got uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:15:35 But then the fact he doubled down and said, that's what I'm saying. It might be a good thing since women over 30 produce defective babies. No. Men's sperm quality decreases with age too. So you better buck up and get your shit together so you can actually get married and have someone that wants to sleep with you long-term and deal with your shitty attitude. Also, the like, I'm just really honest thing. It's like, it's the same when a guy is like, Oh, like I'm not flirting.
Starting point is 01:16:01 That's just like my personality. Like, you know what I mean, which is like the line, I hate the most. It's like, don't use your quote, brutal honesty as an excuse to get yourself out of these situations. It's just not it. Because you know they have forever. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Yeah. Well, when they get away with it, this reminds me, have you seen Ted Lasso at all? I've seen it. Yeah. This reminds me of like Rebecca, who's the team's owner. And she's talking about her ex-husband Rupert and she said something. And I think she was like talking to her girlfriend or Ted or someone, but she was like, I used to think his brutal honesty was so attractive and like something she valued.
Starting point is 01:16:37 And then she said after she was like, but now I see it for what it like truly is. It's just mean and callous and insecure. Yeah. And that's this man. Like, yeah. Absolutely insane. Like, horrible. I, the sex must be really good or something with this one because otherwise, why would
Starting point is 01:16:52 you want to stick around and have to deal with a pill of a person like this? Some people like a project. That's true. I used to. God. Yeah. Ugh. No.
Starting point is 01:17:04 It's awkward. Very. Do you like sitting there like, no, Justin is like, he knows who he is. He's flawless. But. Hey. But God. I just like, I can, I'm like, the title was very deceiving with this one and like just
Starting point is 01:17:21 how bad it really got. Yeah. No, that was like foul. Top comment. Repeat after me. He should have just ignored me. He knows what I'm like. I'm older than him.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I can't change now. I am who I am. I was just being honest. Seriously. That's my opinion of his conversation. What's that? He uses our toxic bullshit mom. Cool.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Cool. Good to know you won't be putting up with anyone's crap from now on, not the asshole. And then someone replies back, quote, you know how he slash she is is the biggest cop out response for those people who everyone knows is a rude bully. I kind of disagree with that though. Really? No, like I agree with it, but in this situation it's like, what, what's going to happen from everybody?
Starting point is 01:18:06 Like what, like. Ignoring him. Yeah. I agree. Like that is a massive cop out and like that doesn't, like his behavior is still horrible and like he's in the wrong, but it's like the sister is not going to dump him. Like you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Like I don't know. Like she does, she can stand up for herself without like getting into it with him because I don't think she'll get far by getting into it with him, but she should, she can stick up for herself. But do you know what I'm trying to say? Yeah. It's like arguing with a wall, like you're never going to get anywhere and that's going to, like that's going to hurt your mental health by trying to like go after somebody
Starting point is 01:18:46 like that. Yeah. God, it'd just be so hard in that moment though, because you know you'd just be boiling up. Especially with the fertility issue. I would fuck it. I would like pop off. I'd be bawling.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I would, I think she was honestly kind of easy on him. True. I mean, like to what we were saying before though, it's hard to take the high road in that instance and maybe the best route is like you could just stand up and get out of there. Yes. You could like get away for it for a moment or something, but it would be so fucking hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Yeah. Go to the kitchen, have a glass of wine. Get yourself out of that situation. So it'd be like, I'm not going to stoop to this person's level because clearly what he's saying is wrong, but I need to get out of this situation. Right. Well, on tier point two, Robin, like the sister isn't going to dump him. Like the sister honestly probably is finding this attractive and one thing I kind of forgot
Starting point is 01:19:32 about is like the sister also participated in this. The sister, when he asked about the fertility or the infertility and whose side was it on, the sister was the one that piped up and said, oh, it's on her. So the sister, I'm like, oh, I got an axe to grind with all these bitches. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Wow. Well, I hope this all works out for OP.
Starting point is 01:19:56 There's no official update, but there are a lot of comments from her. She's like, I was just genuinely caught off guard by his words and was also angry, but trying to stay calm. Apparently he got offended and so was my sister, although she sat there the entire time ignoring his remarks that were directed at me. So yeah, fuck that sister too. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:20:21 That's like another issue of this. Yeah. There's a lot of levels here. Damage control, does there need to be any or just let it? I think damage control would be to have a serious conversation with the sister and being like, if I know you're not going to leave him, that's fine, but I really don't want him around, especially in these intimate family conversations, because it's extremely hurtful. And if I can't have him change what he says, then maybe you can listen to me and take him
Starting point is 01:20:43 out of the equation. Yeah. Or say you need to muzzle your fucking dog, tell him to keep his fucking mouth shut at these family things if he's got to be there. Yeah. A hundred percent. Well, that's all I got for you. That was really fun.
Starting point is 01:20:58 That was really fun. That was like therapy. We got a little heated. Yeah. Your takes were spot on. Thank you. It's been a pleasure having you. Well, thank you so much for having me on.
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