Two In The Think Tank - 03 - "The Sigh Barrier"

Episode Date: June 10, 2013

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Starting point is 00:00:19 This mic, this mic, this mic, this mic? Is it this mic, this mic, this mic, this mic? This mic? This mic? Is it this mic? This mic? This mic? This mic? Damn. Ah, well. Look, we tried. Yep. Hello and welcome to episode three of Two in the Think Tank. Two in the Think Tank. And this is the show where me, Andy Matthews, and Al, Astaire Tremblay-Virtual. Al, Astaire Tremblay-Virtual. Matthews. Sit down and try and... Matthews. Try and come up with five sketch ideas.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Yep. And we're here for however long it takes. However goddamn long. However goddamn long it takes. And we do repeat the things that the other people say a lot. I do that a lot. So it probably could be a half however goddamn long it takes long podcast. But we've made some creative decisions.
Starting point is 00:01:19 We have, and we're sticking to them. Like the one where we improvise the opening theme at the start of every show. Yeah. I don't think that was ever even actually a decision. No, we didn't make that decision, but we just do it. It's the kind of decision that you make where you don't make a decision, and laziness removes all the other options. Yeah, I was just singing out of laziness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:43 At the beginning of every podcast, and then I just became who I was just singing out of laziness at the beginning of every podcast, and then I just became who I was. Laziness is actually one of the greatest motivating factors in the world. I was just singing the song like that because I didn't want to be working in an office job. I think a lot of people have done that. There was an idea that I had. It's not really a sketch idea, but it's just more sort of a depressing reality. People complain about how there's too much choice these days. Whenever you're presented with a decision, you've got a range of different options. But I find that if you just wait long enough and don't make a decision, the majority of those doors will close,
Starting point is 00:02:27 most of those options cease to be options, and in the end, there's only one option left, and then you just take that. See, that's nice. It's like the government kind of just deciding for you, like going, look, there's only one thing. Yeah. Instead of the government, it's laziness.
Starting point is 00:02:43 It's the passage of time. So what's an example of this? You go to Subway, you don't know what to get on your sandwich, you just wait until all the food has rotted, and there's just one particularly well-preserved zucchini, and then you have that. So this is sort of like at the end of the subway franchise and they've just abandoned the building yes but you still can't decide yeah and they've just left all the ingredients there yeah they've just walked away yeah and you go in there you're like oh what to have on my moldy subwayway roll. Subway eat fresh. Up to a point.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Up until the company collapses. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's sort of a common thing that I encounter as well when I'm going to Subway. Subway. I'm talking more in life, obviously. In life, like eventually the only job that you'll be able to do is sort of like... The only one that's not filled. Yeah, which will probably be like one of the positions at the old folks' home where they
Starting point is 00:03:53 let one of the guys, one of the people go and pick up the mail. Yeah. God, if that's your job at the old folks' home, that's probably pretty good. Yeah? Do you think that's good? Yeah, that'd be, um, that'd be like being one of the guys, you know, that's probably pretty good yeah do you think that's good yeah that'd be um that'd be like being one of the guys you know that's like a lot of power like in a prison you know like other guys who who sort of can get you things can get access to things and get to talk to the guards and stuff
Starting point is 00:04:15 maybe work in the library or whatever the sorcerer of some sort yeah yeah the guy who can get the mail at the old folks home you could control everyone like no letters from your kids oh yeah this year yeah if you don't give me your mashed whatever it is that they something broccoli yeah broccoli that's just to mash broccoli it's one of the few things that the texture is very interesting about the texture is fascinating on broccoli there's so much going on see it's funny that you saw that person at the old folks' home that goes get the mail as a position of power. Yeah. Because I really saw it as like you were essentially doing a dog's job.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Like, you're like the human dog of this place, which is great. Yeah. You've got a role. You're the human dog. It's nice to have purpose. Even if it is a to have purpose. But... Even if it is a dog's purpose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Is that a thing? What's dog's breakfast? Yeah. What is dog's breakfast? A dog's breakfast is a real mess. Eggs. Dog food. Hollandaise.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Hollandaise sauce. Yeah. Is there a... There's definitely a sketch. I mean, it's probably too obvious. Yeah. Nah, forget it. No, come on, say it, Andy.
Starting point is 00:05:28 No, I just went through the full range of emotions that are associated with a sketch idea. I know, but... Without even expressing any of them. But let's hear it just so that I can judge it. Oh, okay. Well, just that thing of, like, presenting an old folks' home as a prison.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But, I mean, that's been done in movies and stuff, not even as a sketch, like... Maybe. I mean, maybe that's been done in movies and stuff, not even as a sketch. Maybe. I mean, maybe it's been done in reality. Yeah. But, sort of. I don't know. I don't think I have seen that. Where have you seen that?
Starting point is 00:05:54 I think it was in Cloud Atlas a little bit. Oh. Yeah. Like, they had to try and break out and stuff of the old folks' home. Okay. But, I mean, you could take it more, you could definitely make it more funny and more extreme and ridiculous. Funnier than Cloud Atlas?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah. Yeah. No. I think that comedy's been done. They really, they explored every possible comic premise in the world. Wow. Yeah. And in all time,
Starting point is 00:06:28 throughout time. Yeah. And then sometimes some, and throughout races, right? Isn't there one,
Starting point is 00:06:35 I haven't seen Cloud Atlas, but I think there's a section where everybody does yellow face, right? Yeah. Even the characters who were already Asian, I think they still, the actors who were already asian i think they still
Starting point is 00:06:45 oh they the actors who are already asian they kind of put a little bit extra really no no no but were there characters that were already asian um there was one yeah yeah and then there were some people who were white who they sort of did a bit of prosthetics and put a little bit of i mean stuff on the eyes that would be a fun idea of like um dressing up people of each race and like putting prosthetics and makeup on them to make them look like the race they already are so like whatever you would do to a black person to make them do white face yeah you do that to a white person and same thing with black people and Asian people
Starting point is 00:07:28 and the other races well I think maybe what you could do is you could get a black person you could put them in white face and then you could put black face over the top
Starting point is 00:07:36 oh yeah and you could see how offensive it is yeah I think just the act of doing it is probably so offensive no I look I think just the act of doing it is probably so offensive.
Starting point is 00:07:45 No, look, I really like that idea of the white face and black face. Yeah. So you're doing a white person pretending to be a black person? Yeah. But maybe we've got to do it with our race, because we're two whiteys. Oh, we are. Or we could just put another layer in there. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:08:06 So wait, just do it so it'll be a white person pretending to be a black person pretending to be a white person pretending to be a black person. Yes. This is how I would imagine that people of other races would think that we pretend to be them. If I was of another race. If I was of another race, yeah. Why would you do that, though?
Starting point is 00:08:29 How could you justify that in a sketch context? Well, to make a comment about... Why am I trying to make a comment? I should just be doing the comedy. Yeah, just make the comment. Just say it. Just say it. Stop trying to make comments. Just make comedy. Have, just make the comment. Yeah. Just say it. Just say it. Stop trying to make comments.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Just make comedy. Have you never made a comment before? Yeah. It's really easy. Yeah. Just use your words. Stop dressing up in multi-layers of races trying to make a comment. Well, that could be a...
Starting point is 00:08:58 Tell me the comment. It's an artist gallery. It's an art gallery. Yeah. An artist gallery. Yeah. And then where the group of people who are looking at the art, they just follow around the artist who goes and stands in front next to a plaque.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah. And then he just makes the comment. He goes, war is bad. And then he goes to the next one. Oh. And he goes, we lose innocence when we get older. Yeah. Because we learn things.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah. And then he goes to what's the next one? He goes... I had a bad sandwich. Yeah, next one. Trucks make noise that sounds diesel-y.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Now you're just saying what you hear. Okay, now I'm saying what I hear. That's an amazing... That would have been really hard to paint. I'm glad he just made the comment in that case. The painting that says trucks make noise that sound diesel-y is... And then it also has, on the plaque it says, you know, instead of acrylics on canvas, it says...
Starting point is 00:09:55 Artist talking. Yeah, artist talking, or like air through vocal cords. Yeah. Attached to a neuro system. Yeah. Yeah. That would be like a... You know, it's weird that they tell you what the art was done with.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yeah. Why on earth would they do that? Like, how is that important? How does that affect your appreciation of the work? Oh, steel and rubber. Yeah, well, maybe... I don't know. They should tell you what...
Starting point is 00:10:31 They might as well tell you what the artist had for breakfast that morning. Yeah, well, they could. I'm sure some artists would... That'd be fun. Yeah, but maybe it's for the level of difficulty. Because they're like, yeah, this would be fine if you were just putting a filter on Photoshop. Yeah. It's like filter on Photoshop.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Instagram. Yeah. Instagram over regular. It's almost like, yeah, it's the credit. It's like you're just building, you're getting cred. But even then, it's a painting. He did it with paint. That's not that impressive.
Starting point is 00:11:02 If it said bits of his own toenails and spit, right? And it was this amazing multicolored drawing of a fish. See, that's exactly why they do it. So that he can draw a toenail and spit multicolored fish and the people will go, yeah, I will applaud that. That's exactly the reason yeah but just out of curiosity do you think that first one the uh the idea of the artist going around making comments yeah no i think that's great or just making making comment this is the
Starting point is 00:11:38 thing that i thought about art the other day um was like people complain like there's a lot of people who are like oh the art doesn't like we still get people who say the art doesn't look like what it's supposed to look like like this painting like it doesn't look like a house you know yeah what's the point it should look like what it's supposed to be right like people say that yeah but they don't say that about music because if that was what we said about music music would just be like the best musicians would be the people who could create the most realistic impersonations of bird sounds or like construction noise or something from reality. Oh, but it doesn't sound like anything.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah, it doesn't sound like a diesel-y truck. It doesn't sound like a diesel-y truck. And then the reversing something yeah so like but that would be the thing that would be like everyone would go to the philharmonic and they'd be oh you've got to go see this this this beautiful concerto it sounds exactly like a truck reversing and they'd go along and they'd have like the full orchestra with the violins and the drums and everything and then people would sit back and close their eyes and be like i can imagine that it's actually a truck reversing. I can imagine being in bed on a Saturday morning and just hearing that jackhammer just going like that.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah. Oh, that's a perfect representation. I'm completely uneasy and bothered. Yeah. Exactly. Because the point there is that music is inherently abstract. Is it? And that's the comment that we would make.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Yeah, and we don't need to do that sketch. We could just have me standing in front of the camera saying music is inherently abstract. But are there other impressionist musicians like that? Well, like people who whistle bird sounds. You do quite good bird sounds, don't you? Well, like people who whistle bird sounds. You do quite good bird sounds, don't you?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yeah, so that's fantastic. And by the standards of art should look like the thing it's representing, you're one of the greatest musicians who's ever lived. And I don't think you're understating it quite at all. No. But... You also don't think I'm overstating it no of course not no i think i think what i was trying to say is that you stated it exactly exactly yeah in between the i think you're stating this yeah i think you're really you're really hitting that nail
Starting point is 00:13:58 on its head and it sounds when you say it it sounds like someone hitting a nail on the head wow and that's beautiful music yeah well i mean in a way talking is kind of like that when you say it, it sounds like someone hitting a nail on the head. Wow. And that's beautiful music. Yeah. Well, I mean, in a way, talking is kind of like that. When you say, like, hitting the nail on the head, well, it doesn't really sound like hitting a nail on his head. If you could just go... I'd say, you're hitting the nail on the head.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Yeah. With that impression of hitting a nail on the head. And then I'd say, well, that's nail on the head. Yeah. Yeah. With that impression of hitting a nail on the head. And then I'd say, well, that's a good bit of talking just there that you just did. Yeah. If you can't handle metaphor at all, why do you even exist? Well, your brain's probably faulty. You're just going around correcting everything that doesn't need to be corrected. Don't tell him to get off his high horse.
Starting point is 00:14:46 He's not on a high horse. He's standing on the ground. Tell him to stand on a different bit of ground. Might be a lower bit of ground. Tell him to get onto a high horse. And then tell him to get off the high horse. Come on, man. This isn't what you're trying to represent.
Starting point is 00:15:02 So, is this... How's that a sketch? It's the no metaphor man. It's the guy who, yeah, but he can't take anything. It's the symbol-less man. Well, you could do it as like a thing, like government has issued a directive that all art must look like the thing it's supposed to be, right?
Starting point is 00:15:21 To avoid confusion in art galleries. But then that then gets extended and then you can show the consequences of that, which would be orchestras doing realistic... Yeah. Well, what are you trying to represent? Yeah. Well, the emotion of happiness.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Well, why don't you just make the sound of a man who's happy? Or just say, I'm happy. Yeah. Just say it. Ah. This is kind of getting Or just say, I'm happy. Yeah. Just say it. Ah. This is kind of getting back to the same, the first. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:52 All right. But that's, there's everything that gets in there as well. Right? Like the government, no metaphor. No metaphor. Slash symbols. Yeah. Maybe, maybe government. Slash symbols Yeah Maybe Maybe government
Starting point is 00:16:09 Legislated Yeah, great Yeah, something in that I don't know, we would then have to get a full Orchestra and Well, hopefully we would Or we could just get one musician That's then have to get a full orchestra and... Well, hopefully we would. We would. Or we could just get one musician that's capable of sounding like a full orchestra.
Starting point is 00:16:31 There you go, we could just get a lyrebird. Yeah, that would solve all our problems with this sketch. All of human life could just be replaced with a lyrebird. Between them, a lyrebird and a chameleon could pretty much do anything you wanted, right? Why can't you get a Chameleon and train it to, like, represent TV images? It's true. Well, after plasma screens, you just need a TV with a bunch, like an array of Chameleons. Just a bunch of Chameleons.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And then you just watch Breaking Bad on there. Or a bunch of Chameleons stuck to the wall. Instead of flat screen, it's a chameleon side shape. Yeah. Screen. TV. TV.
Starting point is 00:17:16 That's funny. And then you just have a lyrebird next to it to do the sound. To do the sound. And when you just hook them up to your DVD player. Yeah. Would that have to go directly into their brains? Or would they just, would they, or would you give them time with the, watch them, throw
Starting point is 00:17:34 them the DVD for a while, then they learn all the sounds and things. Yeah. And then, after months of rehearsal. Yes. They come together. And it's But it would be better definition It would be a better experience
Starting point is 00:17:48 I think so Well it would be more natural Yeah It would be a much more It would be how you would watch A DVD sort of Like in the jungle Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:56 Which lyrebirds Are not jungle animals No they are Are they? I thought they just Or forest Yeah they just live in the bush Yeah the bush is jungle
Starting point is 00:18:04 Is it? I don't know I don't in the bush here. Yeah, bush is jungle. Is it? I don't know. I don't know where you draw the line between bush and jungle. Well, no. You see, in a jungle, you take a big thing of plastic and you put it over a tree and then all the animals die. They fall to the ground and then you just count all the animals and you go, oh my God, this is so dense with life.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You don't do that. Or death. Yeah, or death. But you don't do that with... No one ever says that, that the rainforest is so dense with life. You don't do that. Or death. Yeah, or death, but you don't do that with... No one ever says that, that the rainforest is so dense with death. I can't move for all the death.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But it's true. Yeah. There's probably more death in the rainforest. I mean, there's a real place of intense tragedy. Every day,
Starting point is 00:18:37 we should get rid of the rainforests because so many animals die in rainforests. That's horrible, yeah. If we... We could stop death by... Yeah, just getting rid of the rainforest.
Starting point is 00:18:46 ...cutting down the rainforest. And I have a feeling that's what logging companies are doing. Essentially, it's a humanitarian act. Exactly. But it's, you know... To stop the suffering. Yeah, animatarian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Well, all right, that could be a sketch. Humanimatarian. That the logging companies are saying, no, we're stopping suffering. Do you know how many animals die per year? Because I saw that somewhere where I was like, I was in Cairns or Airlie Beach in northern Queensland. And there was a guy who did these talks about sharks and stuff like that. Yeah. And how he hunts sharks because sharks like eat turtles and things like that that are endangered. Yeah. And so he hunts sharks because sharks eat turtles and things like that that are endangered.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah. And so he hunts sharks to stop them doing that. But it's like, no, that's fine. That's not the problem. It's what we're doing to them. Guys, I don't know if you know this, but cheetahs are eating gazelles. They're fucking eating the gazelles. If we could just stop Animal on animal violence
Starting point is 00:19:45 That's what we're trying to do Once we get them all into single enclosures Isolate them Isolate them We can just feed them peanut butter sandwiches Look I think That could be a sketch in terms of like Company PRs.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah. PR companies. Wait, no, like logging companies. Yeah, trying to explain how what they're doing is... And they could... Their example would be, have you tried to survive in the jungle? It's awful. You'd rather be dead.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah, it's better to be dead. Yeah. If anything... I was going to be dead. Yeah. If anything... No, no, I was going to go against the point. If anything, we're... Suffering is... No, wait. No, you're right.
Starting point is 00:20:33 That works. We're helping them. That's right. Yeah. Ugh, I'm an idiot. Al. Yeah? Don't get down on yourself.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And don't get so far down close to the pad that you can't hear your voice when you make comments. Well, you know what? I wouldn't hear your voice when you make comments. Well, I know, but I wouldn't do any talking when I was down there. But then you'd just leave me with this void that I have to fill in because we said we wouldn't do any editing. Yeah. Well, that's fine, Andy. I think you're a good void fella. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah, tell me an opinion of yours. Oh, I already gave you that one about art. Okay. I gave you that one about choice. Those are my two opinions. Tell me one that you that one about choice. Those are my two opinions. Tell me one that you haven't told me. How do you feel about teaching technique? Teaching technique? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Oh, see, I'm a teacher. I should have opinions. And I'm very good at pretending to have opinions in job interviews and stuff. I definitely come out with a bunch of really well-formed opinions in that context. But I don't think anyone has really opinions until you ask them about it. Yeah. It's true that I don't really have that many opinions floating through my head. And I could probably change it midway through a conversation. Yeah. So if you ask me in a job interview what my opinions are about teaching,
Starting point is 00:21:40 I'd probably say something about the need to engage every student and how we have to have multiple entry points and multiple assessment techniques to allow for diversity of learning styles and multiple intelligences. Right. But in reality, I think you should just probably teach the class, do a bit of stuff from the textbook, do some activities. Yeah. It'll be all right. Yell at some people? Did you do any yelling? I did yell at some people. Yeah. I'll be all right. Yell at some people? Did you do any yelling?
Starting point is 00:22:05 I did yell at some people. Yeah? I didn't enjoy it. No? Oh, it's awful. Yeah? It's awful. You feel like you've failed on every possible level.
Starting point is 00:22:16 As a teacher or like... As a teacher, as a person. Yeah. Because you're like, I remember this happening. Yeah, exactly. And I remember how bad it is, especially because I'm normally a nice teacher. Yeah. And you remember most of the times when the nice teachers yelled.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah. And how that was just like, it was like, what's happened to the world? There are no rules. It made me realize, we must be truly awful if we're making this kind-hearted person that angry. You probably were. Yeah. Truly awful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:52 But just, like, you don't know when you're in high school, like, or whatever, that there's, like, other stuff going on in these people's lives. Yeah. And then you're just, like, you know, some of some of them were like 24 and just out of uni and like some people would make them cry and you know some people would pride themselves on that they had made teachers cry and they're like they're just humans with a job that they yeah like want to be good at i remember one day day in home group, which is like the class, when I was at school, right? When I was in grade seven, okay? We had a teacher, Mrs. Galloway, who was our French teacher, but she was our home group teacher, right?
Starting point is 00:23:36 And if you came late to school, as a student, you had to sign the late book, right? And she was late to home group. And I said, oh, you have to sign the late book and i thought that was a funny joke and she shouted at the class for like two minutes about how you should have some respect and people work really hard and just like and she was deeply emotional about it and i was like oh my god she's a human being yeah but also i was like, I just made a joke.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah, it's just a... Jesus. It was just about the double standards between... I was trying to make a comment about the double standards between teachers and students, but I probably should have
Starting point is 00:24:16 just made the comment. You probably should have just done some art. Yeah. Just a painting. Just a painting. And then explained it to you because you wouldn't have got it.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Yeah. I don't know how I would have represented it. Probably the homeroom late sheet for students. And then just a picture of you walking in late not signing it. Yeah. Yeah. I could have done that with a photograph probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But it would have looked exactly like the thing I was trying to do the art about. And that's how you know it's good art. Yeah. Oh, dear. Wait. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. But, well, there's, but, like, I think there's a, do you, because that seems to be a realization I keep having to have, is that, oh, wait, they're just a human.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah. Because I had to do that about my parents. I had to do that about teachers. Right? You think people have to do that about the Pope? Here's a funny thing. Yeah. Because I had to do that about my parents. I had to do that about teachers. Right? You think people have to do that about the Pope? Here's a funny thing. Yeah. The Pope wears a big hat.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah. How about that? Do you think it's to remove his humanity and to make him more godlike? Oh, he has got a big hat. Yeah. Do you think God has a big hat? Well, how would you distinguish him from other people? That's true.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah. God's probably got the biggest hat. Really. If God's the greatest person, he would have the biggest hat. Just a big hat. Is it a big cowboy hat, or do you think it's more in the style of the Catholic Church? Because a big cowboy hat, people just at a football game or something like that might have that. Which is kind of fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And if it is a big hat, what's it made out of? What has got the structural integrity to be really big and follow the shape, you know, keep shape, but also not be so heavy that it's going to damage your neck? Your God neck. Your God neck. I mean, even God has to be reasonable. Yeah. You know, to a certain extent. I mean, even God has to be reasonable. Yeah. You know, to a certain extent. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:08 God, at a certain point, probably the neck has to start obeying physical laws. Yeah. I mean, God's great, but, you know, what about his neck? But he doesn't, you know, like, he's great, but he doesn't do any things that, like, he's not like, oh, look, I can just levitate. He doesn't do that kind of stuff he appears and then he does stuff that kind of could be plausible that you could you could probably explain through other things yeah that's kind of style yeah like like like he does the kind of miracles that if you thought about them you could explain them yeah but walking on water maybe there's a sandbar you know uh healing a blind person he might have just had conjunctivitis
Starting point is 00:26:44 and it just cleared up yeah he had his eyes closed yeah he was asleep things like that like yeah he maybe he just wasn't blind it was dark and just yeah and jesus like or god just spat in at him you know those kind of things uh he never does things that are just like look i'm gonna light myself on fire and then like extinguish myself and i'm going to be fine. He doesn't do that kind of stuff. He doesn't do the human torch. No. He's not a big fan of that. Which also probably could be done and explained.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Maybe, yeah. That's true. If that's the most impressive thing you can think of, Alistair. Starting a fire, then putting it out again. No, but I mean like light heating himself up on fire. Yeah, okay. Well, no, if he lit a fire, like a campfire, and then he put it out really fast, I think we could explain that.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah? Okay. But yeah, so God probably would wear just a reasonable-sized hat, but just bigger than everybody else's. That's the main thing. So that his status was clear. If we were to look at the Guinness Book of World Records, if God was eligible,
Starting point is 00:27:42 he would just be slightly better at everything than all the people in the Guinness Book of Records. He's not a show-off. He's just a high achiever. God would have the biggest dick. You think so? I think God would have a massive dick. Would it be a shower or a grower?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Would it be big and then he would grow even bigger? Yeah. I think in both respects it would be really surprising. It would be distasteful for him to have such a big dick. It would be. Against a lot of the things that he said, which is, you know, I don't know what he said about dicks. But for some reason the thing about a camel through the eye of a needle.
Starting point is 00:28:18 It is easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven. That also probably applies to guys to get into heaven. Yeah. That also probably applies to guys with big dicks. Yeah, guys with big dicks. Or I thought for some reason I was imagining the dick as being the eye of the needle. It is easier for a camel to get through the big eye of God's big dick than it is for a rich man to eat a camel. Which what I'm saying is that it's not that hard because God has a really big needle.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Dick. Eye. Needle eye and dick. That's what we're saying. I thought it was just a euphemism. So my original point was, like, it's funny that a religion, which is the source of truth, and, you know, it's supposed to be everything that is good and right okay also has like fashion yeah like has clothing that is dictated that got that the pope has a big hat
Starting point is 00:29:16 is really weird yeah like you you'd think that if there was any truth, any one truth, it wouldn't have anything to do with clothes. Yeah. With how you dress up. Like the guy at the head of the World Bank doesn't wear like a giant tie. Imagine if being the head of the World Bank, you had a hat. Yeah. The head of every major corporation should have a hat. Yeah, and the size of the hat should be indexed to the share price.
Starting point is 00:29:51 So do you think it's an inflatable hat? Yeah, and then be like the hat index, and then you could line up all the heads of all the major corporations, and by looking at the height of their hats, that would give you an accurate representation of the state of the stock market. As you can see, the wings on Gary's hat. Gary, head of corporation. Yeah, good. This is corp, corp. Corp, corp.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Oh, yeah, corp, corp. Yeah, corp is how you pronounce it in French, corp. Anyway, it's body, though. When you say corp how you pronounce it in French. Corps. Anyway. It's body, though. When you say corps, I think it means body. Anyway. Well, I guess corporations are body. Yeah, but an army corps. That's true.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Army body. Army body. Yeah. Anyway. Lots of arms. The wings have gotten bigger because of the share price. That's what I was going to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:40 This is what I noticed. I watched some Bill Cosby yesterday. And things like that, which I would go like, i would just normally go you know and then it's just a person and then you then a person kind of like you know dances for a bit right yeah but i would just go yeah yeah that bit you know you get the point you know what a person dancing or walking looks like but he'll go and he'll do it and he'll get comedy out of that and i was like i forgot what the point of this whole thing was to get comedy out of things not just to to like, anyway, that's my point. Yeah, to efficiently make the comment that you were trying to make.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah. But okay, wait, I'm going to write the big hats thing. Yeah. Big hats slash big corporations. Yeah, and you could also do it with like when the United Nations meets or something. You could have, you know, when they get together for that photo opportunity that they always do when the G8 meets or something. Yeah. That's a missed opportunity to have a really accurate, like, a pie chart or histogram of GDP.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Yeah, and, like, every leader of everything should have a hat Like I think that's something that's been lost to history And that just you know Vatican's really good at keeping history going And that's great But we've lost that to history Is that every leader gets a hat We've lost sight of the church's teachings
Starting point is 00:31:58 Which are that hats are important Yeah And that they're a representation of status and power yeah and then and then unless you got a big hat then you're a nobody and you don't deserve respect why would i why would i listen to you you don't where's your hat right i can just i can see your hair it's hockey season and you can get anything you need delivered with uber eats well almost almost anything so no you can't get a nice rank on uber eats but iced tea ice cream or just plain old ice yes we deliver those goaltenders no but chicken tenders yes because those are groceries and we
Starting point is 00:32:40 deliver those too along with your favorite restaurant food alcohol and other everyday essentials order uber eats now for alcohol you must be legal drinking age please enjoy responsibly It's embarrassing for you. You're a nobody. You're clearly, look, you're wearing a bathing cap. You're wearing a bathing cap. Eh? That's... Yeah. Maybe, do you think there'd be one,
Starting point is 00:33:06 there'd be like an organization whose... whose big hat would just be like one of those bald caps? Well, that's a religious thing as well. Like some... Where people pretend to be bald? Oh, yeah, okay. Not a... Okay, not an actual bald cat.
Starting point is 00:33:27 We dress up as bald people. Yeah. We pretend. Is that like a black face of bald people? That's very, yeah, that's probably very offensive. Yeah, look, we're all pretending to be bald. Whoa, look at me. You're insulting our plight.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah. Is that plight? Well, now you're comparing blackness to being our plight. Yeah. Is that plight? Was that used correctly? Well, now you're comparing blackness to being a plight. Well done, Al. Well done. No, I meant the suffering that they were through. No, well, if that's the comment you're trying to make.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Didn't they have a plight? I mean, they had a plight. Yes. It's a funny moment whenever the first pope who decided he wanted to wear a hat was, like, talking to his second-in-command and said, I think I need a hat. I think I need a hat. And the guy said, are you sure?
Starting point is 00:34:16 Because, you know, you're God's representative on Earth. And he's like, yeah. Yeah, no, I think I want a long, pointy hat. Well, like, the hat could point at God. Okay. It could could point at God. Okay. It could remind people of God. So it's like having an arrow on your head pointing up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Do you want to just, like, have a hat that's like a big finger just going up towards God? Oh, no, that would make everybody think of Copernicus's finger. Are you worried you're going to look like one of the coneheads from the Dad Akron movie, Coneheads? And he'd say, well, no, that hasn't been made yet. Yeah, but it might get made. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And then I think that would be embarrassing. But maybe we'll just make it a different colour. We won't make it flesh-coloured. It is kind of flesh-coloured. What I want is essentially like a church steeple on my head. You want to dress up as a church? Yeah. I want to look a little bit more like a church.
Starting point is 00:35:10 It was a fancy dress. Gathering of cardinals gone wrong. Do you want a bit of stained glass in your head? Yes, I want a little window and I want a bell so that when I shake my head around, it rings. Or on the hour. On the hour. When mass starts.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah. Maybe no glass in it because, you know, I mean, it is a big hat and if it catches the wind... Like, he doesn't have a chin strap for that hat. No. It's got to be some pretty heavy-duty design going into keeping that hat on. Yeah, there's probably some flying buttresses in there. Flying buttress? Flying buttress.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I don't know what that is. It's a major architectural development. Oh. Yeah. Is it like that arc? Yeah, it's a sort of an arch thing that allowed you to build much taller cathedrals than you would have been able to otherwise oh well i'm i'm just amazed by the invention of the arch yeah that like anybody was like i could be bothered trying to make this this door circular at the top in this like in this way that doesn't look like
Starting point is 00:36:20 it's all those bricks should hold together yeah Yeah. But also, when you were building that arch, it had to be like, it's not until you put that last keystone in at the top that the arch can actually support itself. Yeah. So the whole time you were building it, everyone would have been like, mate, it's not going to work. What are you doing? But how did they do that? Would they have like a curved thing underneath just holding it? Yeah. They had a wooden structure. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah. So that's actually quite easy. That actually makes a lot of sense. Makes a lot of sense. Really quite boring. No reason to discuss it. Well, somebody... No, I saw someone use that as like an example about...
Starting point is 00:37:00 Metaphor? Yeah, metaphor for evolution. Why didn't they just make the comment? Yeah, that's true it's embarrassing because now I've remembered it and I could have forgotten this thing without but like yeah that
Starting point is 00:37:13 you've got something in place there that kind of holds it like you know so it's like you know they say for some of the arguments that are like well how did the eye evolve yeah it's like oh it's too complex for it to have evolved. I don't know how people can come to that conclusion. This is too complex to have evolved.
Starting point is 00:37:33 It must have been built by somebody. Yeah, it must have been designed. There must have gone through maybe a tender process. Tender process. They got a tender. They got a tender. They started off with a brief. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:44 We want an eye we want something that we could see through yeah yeah you know at the moment uh blindness isn't working for us all that well somebody would have drawn up some plans no one would have been able to see them it would have been horrible so they would have had to make a design it would have just felt like a like a circular ball of some sort. Yeah, yeah. All right. But then the concept, how do you even come up with a concept of seeing if you're blind? I mean, this is... Well, maybe they'd heard the song Amazing Grace and they were like, oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Well, they liked that. Okay, you were blind and now you can see. What is that? Can you explain sight to me? Yeah. Because it was a religious song, right? I imagine that when the intelligent design was happening. Yeah. Because it was a religious song, right? I imagine that when the intelligent design was happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, was blind but now I see. See? See? See? It's, so he would have heard the big bang. Yeah. He would have gone, oh, I like sensations. Let's get me some more of that.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah. Because I imagine there was more to experience than that. Probably some heat. Maybe you didn't have a sense of touch yet. You know? Which probably would have been ideal if you were living through the Big Bang. Not being able to feel it. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Priceless. Yeah. Priceless. But we're mixing our concepts. Yeah, but I don't mind the idea of coming up with the intelligent design for the eye. You're blind and then you want to see as a thing. And then because the tender process, all that kind of stuff. Look, all the engineers are going to love that.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah. They know. Maybe architects might get involved. We might get some YouTube views if we did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah that in the architectural... But there'd be all these problems with the... You could do all the jokes about the disagreements between the architects and the engineers.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah. Well, we're going to need something to keep dust out of there. We're going to have to build an open closing door. Well, that seems completely unreasonable. That's going to be very obtrusive and unsightly. What if we had a roller door? That's the point that it's unsightly. That's what we're creating, unsightly lids.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Sightly. You want something sightly. Yeah, we want something that will look like a snake. Why do you need two eyes? What does a snake look like? What if we just built... Okay, let's do... What if we just did one? Yeah, well, no, I...
Starting point is 00:40:07 You've got to think about maintenance. Yeah, okay, but then what if you lose that one? Right, and I feel that... Then you'll just get another one. Oh, so they're going to... What, they're like shark's teeth and they just keep... Yeah. It's stuff from your skin keeps growing through into your eye socket
Starting point is 00:40:22 and then becomes a tooth. It becomes an eye. You want eyes or teeth in your eye? I want eye teeth. Okay. But I feel like, look, I don't really know because I've never seen, but I have a feeling there would be some advantage to having two eyes. I don't know. Maybe we would...
Starting point is 00:40:39 I just, you know, just perspective from two different points. I don't know if that would help. It's going to cost more. Well, that's true if that would help. It's going to cost more. Well, that's true. That's true. It's going to probably consume more energy. Yeah, it's going to take twice as long. I don't know if the council's going to go for it, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yeah. The face council. There's going to be a lot of facial real estate that you're talking about there. That's true. I mean, that could be used for other stuff. Like, we were thinking about having another mouth. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But why would we do that? So that you can talk and eat at the same time. Oh, yeah. I mean, that would be less rude. That would be less rude. Because currently, you're eating that egg salad. I am. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And I would find that really unsightly. If I could see it. If I could see it. If I could see it. But the smell isn't great. And if you had two eyes, you'd probably see it twice as much. That'd be twice as offensive. Well, that would be a waste of time as well, wouldn't it? Just having two images of the same thing.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah. Then we'd have to get some programmers in just to join the sights together. I mean, the logistics. You could probably have a much smaller brain if you just had one eye. Yeah, that's true. Have a much smaller brain and then you could use some of that space for something else, like maybe another mouth. Or, you know, maybe some protective area for that brain.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Yeah. Or another mouth would be good, actually, in the brain. Get another mouth in there. Yeah, something to drink the fluid that's in there. Because, you know, sometimes you get a lot, you know, it could be like a camel's hump,
Starting point is 00:42:08 but in the brain, you store all that fluid in there. Just fill it with fluid. It could be a reservoir. Yeah. You know, and plus it's... It's the perfect shape. Yeah, and maybe you could...
Starting point is 00:42:18 We could get some hydroelectricity from that, because if you get the water up high like that, then when it falls we could get some turbines maybe somewhere in the throat
Starting point is 00:42:27 or alright it's done like that and then you could use that energy maybe to you know maybe we could have light coming out of that eye
Starting point is 00:42:35 for night vision see that would be great yeah light eyes light eyes they could do that with Google anyway I'm writing that idea down because I think we've
Starting point is 00:42:44 we've got a bit of it. Well, we've talked about it so long that we have to write it down. We have to write it down because or else... I think it got probably pretty self-indulgent and boring about a third of the way through. I know, but that's where we're finding stuff. Yeah, no, we're finding stuff. This whole thing is self-indulgent. Oh, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:42:59 We're talking to each other about ideas that we came up with for our own benefit. Yeah, this is the part that artists and performers will normally hide from people, the process of creating things and the enjoyment that comes from creating things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole thing is self-indulgent. All right, so... Oh, it's very... It indulges the audience.
Starting point is 00:43:21 It indulges the audience a bit too much, that art. Yeah. I felt like the artist wasn't really thinking about themselves when they put on that exhibition of all of their own work. I mean, the audience really came away feeling a bit overindulged. Yeah. Well, it wasn't... I had to sleep it off.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I felt like the other person who was getting the most out of this was me, because I was indulged, but also the artist was getting quite a bit out of it. I mean, it's an interesting thing, because I reckon like Dr. Brown isn't self-indulgent. No? I don't know. What do you reckon? Like, the extent to which he is just almost just reacting to the audience and giving them
Starting point is 00:44:03 what they want. Yeah. Dr. Brown is a performance artist. Performance. Comedian. Clown-ish. Clown-median. Clown-median.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Performance clown. Yeah, he won the Barry last year. Yeah. And it's all about bringing joy into the audience. Yeah. Is life. Yeah, which is pretty cool. And I think he enjoys it as well.
Starting point is 00:44:28 So I must be very self-indulgent of him. Is that the thing? Is that, like, if it just indulges yourself, then that's bad. Because I guess you're forgetting about the audience. If just the audience enjoys it, then you're not having
Starting point is 00:44:43 any fun, and that's bad. But I don't know how that's possible. I don't know how it would be possible for just the audience enjoys it then you're not having any fun and that's bad but I don't know how that's possible I don't know how it would be possible for just the audience to enjoy something while you're not having a good time I mean that's a cruel audience people laughing I guess
Starting point is 00:44:58 when Christians were thrown to the lions in the Colosseum and the audience loved watching it you couldn't accrue the Christians of being self-indulgent Christians were thrown to the lions in the Colosseum, and the audience loved watching it. You couldn't accrue the Christians of being self-indulgent. No. They were the opposite of self-indulgent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:15 That was really a selfless act. It was. An involuntary selfless act. Yeah. Well, I guess if you're not being indulgent, you're being exploited, probably. No one refers to the exploited as being selfless. Yeah. But that's what they are.
Starting point is 00:45:33 The way they gave of themselves. Yeah. The way the slaves, the way the, you know. The, oh, yeah, slaves. Slaves is... They're very selfless people. Yeah. But then again, you know, they're still thinking about themselves They're like, oh I gotta get out of this
Starting point is 00:45:48 I gotta get out of this Out of this lion pen Me, me, me So that's in a way Look at him, running for his life Running for his life What about us? What about my life?
Starting point is 00:46:04 What about the lion's life? Yeah. It's very self-indulgent, the way he's trying not to be torn apart by that lion. It's selfish. Trying to keep all his flesh to himself. You know, persecuted slaves these days, they only ever think about themselves. Yeah. Alright.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I'm writing this down. Slaves. How would you, I'm writing this down. Slaves are... How would you... I don't know how you would do that. Like, would you do that as, like, art critics sitting at the Coliseum? Selfish.
Starting point is 00:46:31 In the... No, I don't like the idea of slaves. I like... I like lion pit Christians. You've written pit with two Ts. Yeah. I like Brad Pitt. Lion Pitt. He was's Yeah Like Brad Pitt Lion Pitt
Starting point is 00:46:45 He was thrown into a Brad Pitt Full of Pitt Brads Who chased him around And tore him apart For their own enjoyment Full of lions from Brad Pitt's bloodline I mean
Starting point is 00:47:03 If you could interbreed Lions with any human Probably Brad Pitt because he looks like he's physically healthy. Well, the way he's got his hair and beard at the moment, he's very leonine. Oh. Leonine. Lionine. Leonic. Leonic?
Starting point is 00:47:21 Yeah, hairy. He's got a big mane. He's our main man. Yeah. By the way, okay, we've already got one, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah. Six. Six.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Some of them were weaker. I feel like we're getting stronger. I mean, how long have we been doing this? Yeah, okay. You check. Move the mouse. You've got to look up the top there. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:47:44 Oh, yeah. 40 minutes or something. 46 minutes. Yeah. Okay. How are you guys going, audience? What do you reckon? Could you do another 15? If you've stuck through this much, I really want to explore this lion pit thing. I mean, you could remake all the movies of Brad Pitt with Lion, like an attractive lion. Yeah. He is eating in a lot of his films. That's apparently a thing, like, of Brad Pitt's. That he likes to... He likes to eat when he's acting, like he's an eating actor.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I think particularly in the Ocean's Eleven movies, he was eating in almost every scene. Wow. And it looks good. So it's just like a lion holding on to a zebra. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And then he says something that Brad Pitt would say. What about something about... All right, let's change the subject. Okay. Do you want to change the subject? Yeah, I want to. Yeah, what about The Law of the Jungle? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:50 What about doing that with, like, lawyers? The Law, yeah. Yeah. It's like a show called The Law of the Jungle, right? So it's a new concept. It's Jungle Lawyers. Yeah. Because they always start with a title of these shows,
Starting point is 00:49:03 like Martial Law, right? Yeah. It was a girl called Marshall who was title of these shows, like Martial Law, right? Yeah. There was a girl called Marshall who was a lawyer. Oh, is that what it was? But they started with the words, the expression Martial Law. Yeah. Right? So you start with the name and then you work back.
Starting point is 00:49:14 So we started Law of the Jungle. Yeah. Right? And it's lawyers. Yeah. In the jungle. Okay. And who are they representing?
Starting point is 00:49:24 Like corporations? We're getting back to that other one Yeah Who are persecuting selfless orangutans It's the law of the jungle out here Yeah No, they're not persecuting They're saving orangutans from suffering
Starting point is 00:49:40 From suffering Yeah From their horrible existence As orangutans. Exist-i. Anyway, but, no, wait. These guys, okay, so they're in there, but, like, is it like the movie Ed? No, the TV show Ed, where he, like, he's a lawyer slash bowling alley owner.
Starting point is 00:49:58 What? Yeah, that's what that was the TV show Ed was about. Wasn't that Ed where he was on TV all the time? No, no, yeah, that was a movie Ed, but this is the TV show Ed was about. Wasn't that Ed where he was on TV all the time? No, no. Yeah, that was a movie Ed, but this is the TV show Ed. Okay. Yeah. He was a lawyer and bowling alley owner.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Owner. Yeah. But this is... Yeah, I don't know about these high-pressure law cases. I don't know if there's going to be enough to hold people. Yeah. We need something else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Let's give him a bowling alley. Yeah. Yeah, and Michael Ian Black worked in the bowling alley. Yeah. And he would say, Bosco. Like that. That's how he would refer to his boss. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:50:35 So, okay. So these guys, they're lawyers in the jungle and they've got a bowling alley. Yeah. Great. And it's called Law of the Jungle. Yeah. And bowling. And bowling. And bowling. And bowling.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And the rules of bowling. The bumpers are up for a new edition of Law of... No, that was supposed to be the sound of pins falling over it? Yeah. No, that's hard to do. Well, ever having tried to do that before. It's quite a great wood sound, two of those. And there's a Zulu band in there.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah. That's awful. Yeah, okay, that's not going anywhere. Yeah. I don't like that idea. Law of the Jungle? I don't. I mean, look, it's a cool idea.
Starting point is 00:51:22 It's not. Eh? No, but it's a cool idea. It's like you could do it as a preview or something. Yeah, like a trailer or something. Yeah. Up next on Lore of the Jungle. Lore of the Jungle.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And then it's just a guy walking. All I see is a guy walking through the bush, maybe through with a machete, hacking away at something, and then he's wearing a brown suit and a suitcase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then he would get attacked by some sort of a cat or something, but then there'd be something with a restraining order or an injunction against the cat, which he's trying to...
Starting point is 00:51:49 Here are your divorce papers, Mr. Cthulhu. Oh, Cthulhu. Cthulhu! There's just a tentacled beast from another dimension. All right. What about Law of the Jungle Boys? Yeah. Is that the guys who are doing the... alright what about Love the Jungle Boys is that
Starting point is 00:52:07 yeah is that the guys who are doing the the sketch show the elegant gentleman's not a guide to knife fighting yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:52:13 I don't want to make any comments about that yeah what about a show called City to City right you know Jungle to Jungle yeah
Starting point is 00:52:21 it's where a guy comes out of the jungle and goes into the concrete jungle of the city where a guy comes out of the jungle and goes into the concrete jungle of the city. A guy goes from one city into another city. Into another city. And he's about to find out that things are a lot similar to the way they were. You guys have Chinatown too?
Starting point is 00:52:42 McDonald's. Oh. I know exactly how things work here What do you call this? A toothbrush? Anyway He just brushes his teeth For 25 minutes
Starting point is 00:52:53 But he's constantly surprised At how things are exactly the same Exactly the same Oh my god A skyscraper Yep City to city A skyscraper. Yep. City to city.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Can we just end the show on that sigh? Yeah. Okay, so wait. Ready? Set, three, two, one. Thanks for listening to our podcast. And tune in next week or whenever we upload another one for another episode of Two in the Think Tank. The most discouraging 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:40 That just ends. Just ends. It just ends. With people running out of ideas. Yeah, well, I mean, that kind of makes sense. And trying your patience. It's silly to keep going after you've run out of ideas. Yeah, but there's no such thing as running out of ideas.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But also, like, it would be fun if the show ended five minutes after we ran out of ideas. Yeah, well, that's what is happening. What, you're saying city to city isn't a good idea? No, well, it's an idea. You're right. It was still considered an idea, technically. You can't argue. On paper, we're fine. Legally, yes.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Technically, sure. That would meet the legal definition of an idea. It's not brain-dead. You could argue that it is still alive. But we're not just looking for ideas. There's conscious thought occurring here.
Starting point is 00:54:32 If you hooked yourself up to a biofeedback kind of brain scanner thing, you could see that there is some activity going on in your mind. There's a really obvious satire thing to be done where you try and you you you know when people are in in a long-term coma or something they want to measure whether or not there's any brain activity like there's a really obvious thing
Starting point is 00:54:55 where you like you ask them to pitch a movie idea and if at any point they mention frat parties, you can safely switch off the life support system. No, I'm sorry. You're not. Yeah. You're not conscious. You're not alive. That'd be nice. I think maybe the bar is just set too low for how much conscious brain activity.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I really think that I probably wasn't a conscious being until I was about 21. Yeah. I look back on it and I'm like, I didn't know what I was doing before that. Like, even maybe a bit later than that. Like, I was not self-aware. I said that to my brother about him. Like, he just didn't seem like he was there. Like, he would kind of play with his stuff and things like that. But I don't really remember him having a personality.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Oh, he did. I'm just joking. This is probably more about you just not realizing that other people are human but he's also like after i told it to him he was just like yeah it's like i came out of something and he kind of like became a human at some point really yeah like he's like he came he was in a shell yeah he was like more internal like he was completely internal and just like like it was just like a car trying to start up. He was just... So instead, he was just sitting inside the car, just fiddling with knobs and things like that. But he never went around and interacted with the world.
Starting point is 00:56:17 But he was, but on a minimum level. Not what you would call... would call it like a an active vegetative state yeah yeah i mean he's out there sure he's getting about like he's living his life but he's not we could switch off the machine yeah it's a pity he's not hooked up to a machine yeah that we can switch off it's a pity that he's so loved by everyone yeah because uh you're not you're not here with i mean in a sense we're all on a life support system, aren't we, Alistair? Like, I mean, I don't get food mashed up
Starting point is 00:56:52 and poured into my veins, but I get it dug out of the ground, taken to a supermarket and presented to me in reasonable-sized portions that's 200 metres away from my house. Like, compared... Relative to someone living
Starting point is 00:57:05 in a jungle yeah i am on a life support system and they would probably like if they saw me just sitting there on the couch all day watching shit on youtube they would probably say he's not alive yeah he's not he's mental like you should probably switch off that system that provides food to him through the supermarket in order so that he can just die naturally. Yeah, and in order to do it, you would have to just go to Hazelwood coal power plant station and just pull that out. Pull that plug out. Just go to every node in the electrical system
Starting point is 00:57:36 where there's electricity coming in and start shutting down main roads and logistical systems and things like that. It's a little bit more complicated pulling the plug. It is. It's almost more effort than it's worth. Just to watch me waste away and die. Yeah. Which I would.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yeah, eventually. There's no question. No, but I mean, you might. You'd have to close down fishing shops and things like that. Maybe even second-hand stores where there might be equipment where you could go and hunt. But it would be really hard for my family watching as well. Just to see me wasting away like that.
Starting point is 00:58:12 But it's probably what I would have wanted. That's true. Yeah. Switching off life support system for someone who's not really on life support. Life support.
Starting point is 00:58:29 There'd also be, like, and we would never do this, but, like, this is definitely a thing that you would do. Like, you put someone through, like, an MRI to do a brain scan, and what comes up on the screen of the brain scan is just, like, you know, a rerun of Friends or something. And then you'd be like, oh, yeah. If that's what's happening in their brain. Yeah. Wait, so you... Not Friends. Like, Friends is a bad example.
Starting point is 00:58:52 What's a really, really shit TV show? I don't know. I don't want to judge what people watch on TV. No, let's judge. Come on. What about Matlock? I've never seen Matlock. I only know Matlock as a punchline in The Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Yeah, okay. So, yeah, that. Matlock. I think it was actually pretty good, probably, but it doesn't matter. Stateline. Stateline? It's like a current affairs film. Oh, with farmers.
Starting point is 00:59:18 How could you have just a TV show that's aimed directly at farmers? No, that's Landline. Oh, okay. Stateline is worse, though. It's aimed directly at people in the state of Victoria or something. It's awful. I don't know if it's even on anymore. Well, that's good.
Starting point is 00:59:38 It feels so awful. So then you hook up somebody to an MRI. Yeah, you do a scan of their brain. It's an episode of Stateline. In their brain, you pull the plug. You pull the plug. You pull the plug. So basically what we're saying is that if you're stupid...
Starting point is 00:59:55 No, yeah, I know, that's cruel. But not stupid, but just like... But it was supposed to be like an attack on... It was supposed to be like, our lives... Like, we're not... Are we as alive as someone living in the jungle? Who every day has to actually,
Starting point is 01:00:11 you know, fight to survive? Well, they don't have as much time to think about whether or not they're alive. And I think being alive is thinking about whether you're alive. Oh.
Starting point is 01:00:22 So we should switch off the life support systems of people who live in jungles. Yeah. We should cut down the jungle. Just stop their suffering. And stop their suffering. I mean, they're probably truly happy.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yeah. They're probably almost in a state of bliss all the time. Yeah, but that's a kind of suffering. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You know, too much of a good thing. You know when you have too much ice cream and you feel sick It's probably like that but with happiness
Starting point is 01:00:48 Orgasms are good But imagine if they were going for like 30 minutes You'd be like Jesus, stop contracting Contracting What kind of contractions? I think guys have contractions Contractual agreements
Starting point is 01:01:04 Do you think They're like similar muscles I think kind of contractions. I think guys have contractions, right? Contractual agreements. Do you think they're like similar muscles that push a baby out? Exactly the same. Like they push just a thing of semen out? But it's just faster. It's just more efficient. Another reason why men are superior. they're capable of pushing things out faster out of their genitalia. I'm sorry about saying that men are superior. They're not in any
Starting point is 01:01:33 way. This is the thing that I really want to do something with. It's like a misogynist, right? Is there a Mr.-ogenous? It doesn't make any sense But it's Yeah, I like it Or someone who's like a misogynist guy Who's like, yeah, I'm a misogynist Oh, sorry, sorry
Starting point is 01:01:57 Muz-ogenous Muz Because he's a misogynist But he's also really respectful Of not using terms that fit with the patriarchy I don't say misogynist, but he's also really respectful of not using gender-like terms that fit with the patriarchy. I don't say misogynist because that conforms to the miss-misses dichotomy of a woman is either waiting to be married or she's married. So I refer to myself as a misogynist. And I think without having to sigh,
Starting point is 01:02:26 I think we ended on some ideas. Yeah. We pushed through the sigh barrier. Yeah, through the sigh barrier. And so this has been two in the think tank. We've had, okay, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven ideas today. Yeah, two bonus ideas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Oh, look, we've got artists making comments in gallery instead of making work. It just stands next to the plaque. We've got no metaphor symbols, that all art should just be a perfect representation of life. Yep. And that the government should legislate that for those people so that they're not confused. Logging companies justifying logging rainforests to stop animal suffering, you know, animal violence and things like that.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Big hats for leaders and big corporations and organizations. Every leader should have a hat. But also that would be good because if they were actually leading in a big bunch of people, you'd be able to see who was the leader and you'd know how to follow them. It's like people holding a sign.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Yeah, exactly. There he is. He's the leader. Let's follow him. Because otherwise you're just following other people and they might be leading you astray. Yeah. Or they might not be leading, you might just be following them astray. Anyway, intelligent design meetings for eyes,
Starting point is 01:03:47 which would be like the sort of architects meeting the engineers about aesthetics and function and things like that. That would be a really weird thing. It would have to be an audio sketch. That wouldn't have to be. Do that one for the radio. You could just have a bunch of guys with just like empty holes for empty eye sockets. I think that would be great.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Or just darkness in there. Lion pit Christians are selfish. Well, I mean, there's also the idea that they're selfless. Yeah. But they're the only non-self-indulgent performers. But at the same time, they're super selfish. Yeah. Yeah. My flesh, they're super selfish. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:26 My flesh, all mine. And switching off life support systems for someone who isn't on it. Shutting down society. Shutting off society, yeah. That's pretty good. There's a few other freebie ideas in there too. And one, two, three.
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