Two In The Think Tank - 03 - "The Sigh Barrier"
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Is it this mic?
This mic, this mic, this mic, this mic?
Is it this mic, this mic, this mic, this mic? This mic? This mic? Is it this mic? This mic? This mic? This mic?
Damn. Ah, well. Look, we tried. Yep. Hello and welcome to episode three of Two in the Think Tank.
Two in the Think Tank.
And this is the show where me, Andy Matthews, and Al, Astaire Tremblay-Virtual.
Al, Astaire Tremblay-Virtual.
Matthews. Sit down and try and... Matthews.
Try and come up with five sketch ideas.
Yep.
And we're here for however long it takes.
However goddamn long.
However goddamn long it takes.
And we do repeat the things that the other people say a lot.
I do that a lot.
So it probably could be a half however goddamn long it takes long podcast.
But we've made some creative decisions.
We have, and we're sticking to them.
Like the one where we improvise the opening theme at the start of every show.
Yeah.
I don't think that was ever even actually a decision.
No, we didn't make that decision, but we just do it.
It's the kind of decision that you make where you don't make a decision, and laziness removes all the other options.
Yeah, I was just singing out of laziness.
Yeah.
At the beginning of every podcast, and then I just became who I was just singing out of laziness at the beginning of every podcast, and then I just became who I was.
Laziness is actually one of the greatest motivating factors in the world.
I was just singing the song like that because I didn't want to be working in an office job.
I think a lot of people have done that. There was an idea that I had. It's not really a sketch idea, but it's just more sort of a depressing reality.
People complain about how there's too much choice these days.
Whenever you're presented with a decision, you've got a range of different options.
But I find that if you just wait long enough and don't make a decision,
the majority of those doors will close,
most of those options cease to be options,
and in the end, there's only one option left,
and then you just take that.
See, that's nice.
It's like the government kind of just deciding for you,
like going, look, there's only one thing.
Yeah.
Instead of the government, it's laziness.
It's the passage of time.
So what's an example of this?
You go to Subway, you don't know what to get on your sandwich, you just wait until all the food has rotted, and there's just one particularly well-preserved zucchini, and then you have that.
So this is sort of like at the end of the subway franchise and they've just
abandoned the building yes but you still can't decide yeah and they've just left all the
ingredients there yeah they've just walked away yeah and you go in there you're like oh
what to have on my moldy subwayway roll. Subway eat fresh.
Up to a point.
Up until the company collapses.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess that's sort of a common thing that I encounter as well when I'm going to Subway.
Subway.
I'm talking more in life, obviously.
In life, like eventually the only job that you'll be able to do is sort of like...
The only one that's not filled.
Yeah, which will probably be like one of the positions at the old folks' home where they
let one of the guys, one of the people go and pick up the mail.
Yeah.
God, if that's your job at the old folks' home, that's probably pretty good.
Yeah?
Do you think that's good?
Yeah, that'd be, um, that'd be like being one of the guys, you know, that's probably pretty good yeah do you think that's good yeah that'd be um that'd be like
being one of the guys you know that's like a lot of power like in a prison you know like other guys
who who sort of can get you things can get access to things and get to talk to the guards and stuff
maybe work in the library or whatever the sorcerer of some sort yeah yeah the guy who can get the
mail at the old folks home you could control everyone like no letters from your kids oh yeah this year yeah if you don't give me your mashed whatever it is that they
something broccoli yeah broccoli that's just to mash broccoli it's one of the few things that
the texture is very interesting about the texture is fascinating on broccoli there's so much going
on see it's funny that you saw that person at the old folks' home
that goes get the mail as a position of power.
Yeah.
Because I really saw it as like you were essentially doing a dog's job.
Like, you're like the human dog of this place, which is great.
Yeah.
You've got a role.
You're the human dog.
It's nice to have purpose.
Even if it is a to have purpose. But...
Even if it is a dog's purpose.
Yeah.
Is that a thing?
What's dog's breakfast?
Yeah.
What is dog's breakfast?
A dog's breakfast is a real mess.
Eggs.
Dog food.
Hollandaise.
Hollandaise sauce.
Yeah.
Is there a...
There's definitely a sketch.
I mean, it's probably too obvious.
Yeah.
Nah, forget it.
No, come on, say it, Andy.
No, I just went through the full range of emotions
that are associated with a sketch idea.
I know, but...
Without even expressing any of them.
But let's hear it just so that I can judge it.
Oh, okay.
Well, just that thing of, like,
presenting an old folks' home as a prison.
But, I mean, that's been done in movies and stuff,
not even as a sketch, like... Maybe. I mean, maybe that's been done in movies and stuff, not even as a sketch.
Maybe.
I mean, maybe it's been done in reality.
Yeah.
But, sort of. I don't know.
I don't think I have seen that.
Where have you seen that?
I think it was in Cloud Atlas a little bit.
Oh.
Yeah.
Like, they had to try and break out and stuff of the old folks' home.
Okay.
But, I mean, you could take it more, you could definitely make it more funny and more extreme
and ridiculous.
Funnier than Cloud Atlas?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
I think that comedy's been done.
They really, they explored every possible comic premise in the world.
Wow.
Yeah.
And in all time,
throughout time.
Yeah.
And then sometimes
some,
and throughout
races,
right?
Isn't there one,
I haven't seen Cloud Atlas,
but I think there's a section
where everybody
does yellow face, right?
Yeah.
Even the characters
who were already Asian,
I think they still, the actors who were already asian i think they still
oh they the actors who are already asian they kind of put a little bit extra really no no no
but were there characters that were already asian um there was one yeah yeah and then there were
some people who were white who they sort of did a bit of prosthetics and put a little bit of i mean stuff on the eyes that would be a fun idea of like um dressing up people of each race
and like putting prosthetics and makeup on them to make them look like the race they already are
so like whatever you would do to a black person to make them do white face yeah you do that to a white person
and same thing
with black people
and Asian people
and the other races
well
I think
maybe what you could do
is you could get a black person
you could put them in white face
and then you could put black face
over the top
oh yeah
and you could
see how offensive it is
yeah
I think just the act of doing it
is probably
so offensive
no I look I think just the act of doing it is probably so offensive.
No, look, I really like that idea of the white face and black face.
Yeah.
So you're doing a white person pretending to be a black person?
Yeah.
But maybe we've got to do it with our race, because we're two whiteys.
Oh, we are.
Or we could just put another layer in there.
Yeah?
So wait, just do it so it'll be a white person pretending to be a black person
pretending to be a white person pretending to be a black person.
Yes.
This is how I would imagine that people of other races
would think that we pretend to be them.
If I was of another race.
If I was of another race, yeah.
Why would you do that, though?
How could you justify that in a sketch context?
Well, to make a comment about...
Why am I trying to make a comment?
I should just be doing the comedy.
Yeah, just make the comment.
Just say it.
Just say it.
Stop trying to make comments. Just make comedy. Have, just make the comment. Yeah. Just say it. Just say it. Stop trying to make comments.
Just make comedy.
Have you never made a comment before?
Yeah.
It's really easy.
Yeah.
Just use your words.
Stop dressing up in multi-layers of races trying to make a comment.
Well, that could be a...
Tell me the comment.
It's an artist gallery.
It's an art gallery.
Yeah.
An artist gallery.
Yeah.
And then where the group of people who are looking at the art, they just follow around
the artist who goes and stands in front next to a plaque.
Yeah.
And then he just makes the comment.
He goes, war is bad.
And then he goes to the next one.
Oh.
And he goes, we lose innocence when we get older.
Yeah.
Because we learn things.
Yeah.
And then he goes to what's the next one?
He goes...
I had a bad sandwich.
Yeah, next one.
Trucks make noise
that sounds
diesel-y.
Now you're just saying what you hear.
Okay, now I'm saying what I hear.
That's an amazing...
That would have been really hard to paint.
I'm glad he just made the comment
in that case.
The painting that says trucks make noise that sound diesel-y is...
And then it also has, on the plaque it says, you know, instead of acrylics on canvas, it says...
Artist talking.
Yeah, artist talking, or like air through vocal cords.
Yeah.
Attached to a neuro system.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be like a...
You know, it's weird that they tell you what the art was done with.
Yeah.
Why on earth would they do that?
Like, how is that important?
How does that affect your appreciation of the work?
Oh, steel and rubber.
Yeah, well, maybe...
I don't know.
They should tell you what...
They might as well tell you what the artist had for breakfast that morning.
Yeah, well, they could.
I'm sure some artists would...
That'd be fun.
Yeah, but maybe it's for the level of difficulty.
Because they're like, yeah, this would be fine if you were just putting a filter on Photoshop.
Yeah.
It's like filter on Photoshop.
Instagram.
Yeah.
Instagram over regular.
It's almost like, yeah, it's the credit.
It's like you're just building, you're getting cred.
But even then, it's a painting.
He did it with paint.
That's not that impressive.
If it said bits of his own toenails and spit, right?
And it was this amazing multicolored drawing of a fish.
See, that's exactly why they do it.
So that he can draw a toenail and spit multicolored fish
and the people will go, yeah, I will applaud that.
That's exactly the reason
yeah but just out of curiosity do you think that first one the uh the idea of the artist going
around making comments yeah no i think that's great or just making making comment this is the
thing that i thought about art the other day um was like people complain like there's a lot of
people who are like oh the art doesn't
like we still get people who say the art doesn't look like what it's supposed to look like like
this painting like it doesn't look like a house you know yeah what's the point it should look
like what it's supposed to be right like people say that yeah but they don't say that about music
because if that was what we said about music music would just be like the best musicians
would be the people who could create the most realistic impersonations of bird sounds or like construction noise or something from reality.
Oh, but it doesn't sound like anything.
Yeah, it doesn't sound like a diesel-y truck.
It doesn't sound like a diesel-y truck.
And then the reversing something yeah so like but that would be the thing that would be like everyone would
go to the philharmonic and they'd be oh you've got to go see this this this beautiful concerto
it sounds exactly like a truck reversing and they'd go along and they'd have like the full
orchestra with the violins and the drums and everything and then people would sit back and
close their eyes and be like i can imagine that it's actually a truck reversing. I can imagine being in bed on a Saturday morning and just hearing that jackhammer just going
like that.
Yeah.
Oh, that's a perfect representation.
I'm completely uneasy and bothered.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Because the point there is that music is inherently abstract.
Is it?
And that's the comment that we would make.
Yeah, and we don't need to do that sketch.
We could just have me standing in front of the camera
saying music is inherently abstract.
But are there other impressionist musicians like that?
Well, like people who whistle bird sounds.
You do quite good bird sounds, don't you?
Well, like people who whistle bird sounds.
You do quite good bird sounds, don't you?
Yeah, so that's fantastic.
And by the standards of art should look like the thing it's representing,
you're one of the greatest musicians who's ever lived. And I don't think you're understating it quite at all.
No.
But...
You also don't think I'm overstating it no of course not
no i think i think what i was trying to say is that you stated it exactly exactly yeah in between
the i think you're stating this yeah i think you're really you're really hitting that nail
on its head and it sounds when you say it it sounds like someone hitting a nail on the head
wow and that's beautiful music yeah well i mean in a way talking is kind of like that when you say it, it sounds like someone hitting a nail on the head. Wow. And that's beautiful music.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, in a way, talking is kind of like that.
When you say, like, hitting the nail on the head,
well, it doesn't really sound like hitting a nail on his head.
If you could just go...
I'd say, you're hitting the nail on the head.
Yeah.
With that impression of hitting a nail on the head. And then I'd say, well, that's nail on the head. Yeah. Yeah. With that impression of hitting a nail on the head.
And then I'd say, well, that's a good bit of talking just there that you just did.
Yeah.
If you can't handle metaphor at all, why do you even exist?
Well, your brain's probably faulty.
You're just going around correcting everything that doesn't need to be corrected.
Don't tell him to get off his high horse.
He's not on a high horse.
He's standing on the ground.
Tell him to stand on a different bit of ground.
Might be a lower bit of ground.
Tell him to get onto a high horse.
And then tell him to get off the high horse.
Come on, man.
This isn't what you're trying to represent.
So, is this...
How's that a sketch?
It's the no metaphor man.
It's the guy who, yeah, but he can't take anything.
It's the symbol-less man.
Well, you could do it as like a thing,
like government has issued a directive
that all art must look like the thing it's supposed to be, right?
To avoid confusion in art galleries.
But then that then gets extended
and then you can show the consequences of that,
which would be orchestras doing realistic...
Yeah.
Well, what are you trying to represent?
Yeah.
Well, the emotion of happiness.
Well, why don't you just make the sound of a man who's happy?
Or just say, I'm happy.
Yeah.
Just say it. Ah. This is kind of getting Or just say, I'm happy. Yeah. Just say it.
Ah.
This is kind of getting back to the same, the first.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
But that's, there's everything that gets in there as well.
Right?
Like the government, no metaphor.
No metaphor.
Slash symbols.
Yeah.
Maybe, maybe government. Slash symbols Yeah Maybe Maybe government
Legislated
Yeah, great
Yeah, something in that
I don't know, we would then have to get a full
Orchestra and
Well, hopefully we would
Or we could just get one musician That's then have to get a full orchestra and... Well, hopefully we would. We would.
Or we could just get one musician that's capable of sounding like a full orchestra.
There you go, we could just get a lyrebird.
Yeah, that would solve all our problems with this sketch.
All of human life could just be replaced with a lyrebird.
Between them, a lyrebird and a chameleon could pretty much do anything you wanted, right?
Why can't you get a Chameleon and train it to, like, represent TV images?
It's true.
Well, after plasma screens, you just need a TV with a bunch, like an array of Chameleons.
Just a bunch of Chameleons.
And then you just watch Breaking Bad on there.
Or a bunch of Chameleons stuck to the wall.
Instead of flat screen,
it's a chameleon side shape.
Yeah.
Screen.
TV.
TV.
That's funny.
And then you just have a lyrebird next to it
to do the sound.
To do the sound.
And when you just hook them up to your DVD player.
Yeah.
Would that have to go directly into their brains?
Or would they just, would they, or would you give them time with the, watch them, throw
them the DVD for a while, then they learn all the sounds and things.
Yeah.
And then, after months of rehearsal.
Yes.
They come together.
And it's
But it would be better definition
It would be a better experience
I think so
Well it would be more natural
Yeah
It would be a much more
It would be how you would watch
A DVD sort of
Like in the jungle
Yeah
Which lyrebirds
Are not jungle animals
No they are
Are they?
I thought they just
Or forest
Yeah they just live in the bush
Yeah the bush is jungle
Is it? I don't know I don't in the bush here. Yeah, bush is jungle.
Is it?
I don't know.
I don't know where you draw the line between bush and jungle.
Well, no.
You see, in a jungle, you take a big thing of plastic and you put it over a tree and then all the animals die.
They fall to the ground and then you just count all the animals and you go, oh my God,
this is so dense with life.
You don't do that.
Or death.
Yeah, or death.
But you don't do that with...
No one ever says that, that the rainforest is so dense with life. You don't do that. Or death. Yeah, or death, but you don't do that with... No one ever says that,
that the rainforest
is so dense with death.
I can't move for all the death.
But it's true.
Yeah.
There's probably more death
in the rainforest.
I mean,
there's a real place
of intense tragedy.
Every day,
we should get rid
of the rainforests
because so many animals
die in rainforests.
That's horrible, yeah.
If we...
We could stop death by...
Yeah, just getting rid of the rainforest.
...cutting down the rainforest.
And I have a feeling that's what logging companies are doing.
Essentially, it's a humanitarian act.
Exactly.
But it's, you know...
To stop the suffering.
Yeah, animatarian.
Yeah.
Well, all right, that could be a sketch.
Humanimatarian.
That the logging companies are saying, no, we're stopping suffering.
Do you know how many animals die per year?
Because I saw that somewhere where I was like, I was in Cairns or Airlie Beach in northern Queensland.
And there was a guy who did these talks about sharks and stuff like that.
Yeah.
And how he hunts sharks because sharks like eat turtles and things like that that are endangered. Yeah. And so he hunts sharks because sharks eat turtles and things like that that are endangered.
Yeah.
And so he hunts sharks to stop them doing that.
But it's like, no, that's fine.
That's not the problem.
It's what we're doing to them.
Guys, I don't know if you know this, but cheetahs are eating gazelles.
They're fucking eating the gazelles.
If we could just stop Animal on animal violence
That's what we're trying to do
Once we get them all into single enclosures
Isolate them
Isolate them
We can just feed them peanut butter sandwiches
Look I think
That could be a sketch in terms of like
Company PRs.
Yeah.
PR companies.
Wait, no, like logging companies.
Yeah, trying to explain how what they're doing is...
And they could...
Their example would be, have you tried to survive in the jungle?
It's awful.
You'd rather be dead.
Yeah, it's better to be dead.
Yeah.
If anything... I was going to be dead. Yeah. If anything...
No, no, I was going to go against the point.
If anything, we're...
Suffering is...
No, wait.
No, you're right.
That works.
We're helping them.
That's right.
Yeah.
Ugh, I'm an idiot.
Al.
Yeah?
Don't get down on yourself.
And don't get so far down close to the pad that you can't hear your voice when you make comments.
Well, you know what? I wouldn't hear your voice when you make comments.
Well, I know, but I wouldn't do any talking when I was down there.
But then you'd just leave me with this void that I have to fill in because we said we wouldn't do any editing.
Yeah.
Well, that's fine, Andy.
I think you're a good void fella.
Yeah?
Yeah, tell me an opinion of yours.
Oh, I already gave you that one about art.
Okay.
I gave you that one about choice.
Those are my two opinions. Tell me one that you that one about choice. Those are my two opinions.
Tell me one that you haven't told me. How do you feel about teaching technique?
Teaching technique?
Yeah.
Oh, see, I'm a teacher. I should have opinions. And I'm very good at pretending to have opinions
in job interviews and stuff. I definitely come out with a bunch of really well-formed
opinions in that context. But I don't think anyone has really opinions until you ask them about it.
Yeah.
It's true that I don't really have that many opinions floating through my head.
And I could probably change it midway through a conversation.
Yeah.
So if you ask me in a job interview what my opinions are about teaching,
I'd probably say something about the need to engage every student
and how we have to have multiple entry points and multiple assessment techniques to allow for diversity of learning styles and multiple intelligences.
Right.
But in reality, I think you should just probably teach the class, do a bit of stuff from the textbook, do some activities.
Yeah.
It'll be all right.
Yell at some people?
Did you do any yelling? I did yell at some people. Yeah. I'll be all right. Yell at some people? Did you do any yelling?
I did yell at some people.
Yeah?
I didn't enjoy it.
No?
Oh, it's awful.
Yeah?
It's awful.
You feel like you've failed on every possible level.
As a teacher or like...
As a teacher, as a person.
Yeah.
Because you're like, I remember this happening.
Yeah, exactly.
And I remember how bad it is, especially because I'm normally a nice teacher.
Yeah.
And you remember most of the times when the nice teachers yelled.
Yeah.
And how that was just like, it was like, what's happened to the world?
There are no rules.
It made me realize, we must be truly awful if we're making this kind-hearted person that angry.
You probably were.
Yeah.
Truly awful.
Yeah.
But just, like, you don't know when you're in high school, like, or whatever, that there's, like, other stuff going on in these people's lives.
Yeah.
And then you're just, like, you know, some of some of them were like 24 and just out of uni
and like some people would make them cry and you know some people would pride themselves on that
they had made teachers cry and they're like they're just humans with a job that they
yeah like want to be good at i remember one day day in home group, which is like the class, when I was at school, right?
When I was in grade seven, okay?
We had a teacher, Mrs. Galloway, who was our French teacher, but she was our home group teacher, right?
And if you came late to school, as a student, you had to sign the late book, right?
And she was late to home group.
And I said, oh, you have to sign the late book
and i thought that was a funny joke and she shouted at the class for like two minutes about
how you should have some respect and people work really hard and just like and she was
deeply emotional about it and i was like oh my god she's a human being yeah
but also i was like,
I just made a joke.
Yeah, it's just a...
Jesus.
It was just about
the double standards between...
I was trying to make a comment
about the double standards
between teachers and students,
but I probably should have
just made the comment.
You probably should have
just done some art.
Yeah.
Just a painting.
Just a painting.
And then explained it to you
because you wouldn't have got it.
Yeah.
I don't know how I would have represented it.
Probably the homeroom late sheet for students.
And then just a picture of you walking in late not signing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I could have done that with a photograph probably.
Yeah.
But it would have looked exactly like the thing I was trying to do the art about.
And that's how you know it's good art.
Yeah.
Oh, dear.
Wait.
Oh, dear.
Oh, dear.
But, well, there's, but, like, I think there's a, do you, because that seems to be a realization I keep having to have, is that, oh, wait, they're just a human.
Yeah.
Because I had to do that about my parents.
I had to do that about teachers.
Right?
You think people have to do that about the Pope? Here's a funny thing. Yeah. Because I had to do that about my parents. I had to do that about teachers. Right? You think people have to do that about the Pope?
Here's a funny thing.
Yeah.
The Pope wears a big hat.
Yeah.
How about that?
Do you think it's to remove his humanity and to make him more godlike?
Oh, he has got a big hat.
Yeah.
Do you think God has a big hat?
Well, how would you distinguish him from other people?
That's true.
Yeah. God's probably got the biggest hat.
Really.
If God's the greatest person, he would have the biggest hat.
Just a big hat.
Is it a big cowboy hat, or do you think it's more in the style of the Catholic Church?
Because a big cowboy hat, people just at a football game or something like that might have that.
Which is kind of fun.
Yeah.
And if it is a big hat, what's it made out of?
What has got the structural integrity to be really big and follow the shape,
you know, keep shape, but also not be so heavy that it's going to damage your neck?
Your God neck.
Your God neck.
I mean, even God has to be reasonable.
Yeah.
You know, to a certain extent. I mean, even God has to be reasonable. Yeah. You know, to a certain extent. I mean,
God, at a certain point, probably the neck has to start obeying physical laws. Yeah.
I mean, God's great, but, you know, what about his neck? But he doesn't, you know, like,
he's great, but he doesn't do any things that, like, he's not like, oh, look, I can just
levitate. He doesn't do that kind of
stuff he appears and then he does stuff that kind of could be plausible that you could you could
probably explain through other things yeah that's kind of style yeah like like like he does the kind
of miracles that if you thought about them you could explain them yeah but walking on water
maybe there's a sandbar you know uh healing a blind person he might have just had conjunctivitis
and it just cleared up yeah he had his eyes closed yeah he was asleep things like that like yeah he maybe he just wasn't
blind it was dark and just yeah and jesus like or god just spat in at him you know those kind of
things uh he never does things that are just like look i'm gonna light myself on fire and then like
extinguish myself and i'm going to be fine.
He doesn't do that kind of stuff.
He doesn't do the human torch.
No.
He's not a big fan of that. Which also probably could be done and explained.
Maybe, yeah.
That's true.
If that's the most impressive thing you can think of, Alistair.
Starting a fire, then putting it out again.
No, but I mean like light heating himself up on fire.
Yeah, okay.
Well, no, if he lit a fire, like a campfire, and then he put it out really fast,
I think we could explain that.
Yeah? Okay.
But yeah, so God probably would wear
just a reasonable-sized hat,
but just bigger than everybody else's.
That's the main thing.
So that his status was clear.
If we were to look at the Guinness Book of World Records,
if God was eligible,
he would just be slightly better
at everything than all the people in the Guinness Book of Records.
He's not a show-off.
He's just a high achiever.
God would have the biggest dick.
You think so?
I think God would have a massive dick.
Would it be a shower or a grower?
Would it be big and then he would grow even bigger?
Yeah.
I think in both respects it would be really surprising.
It would be distasteful for him to have such a big dick.
It would be.
Against a lot of the things that he said, which is, you know,
I don't know what he said about dicks.
But for some reason the thing about a camel through the eye of a needle.
It is easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle
than it is for a rich man to get into heaven.
That also probably applies to guys to get into heaven. Yeah.
That also probably applies to guys with big dicks.
Yeah, guys with big dicks. Or I thought for some reason I was imagining the dick as being the eye of the needle.
It is easier for a camel to get through the big eye of God's big dick than it is for a
rich man to eat a camel.
Which what I'm saying is that it's not that hard because God has a really big needle.
Dick.
Eye.
Needle eye and dick.
That's what we're saying.
I thought it was just a euphemism.
So my original point was, like, it's funny that a religion, which is the source of truth,
and, you know, it's supposed to be everything that is good and right okay also
has like fashion yeah like has clothing that is dictated that got that the pope has a big hat
is really weird yeah like you you'd think that if there was any truth, any one truth, it wouldn't have anything to do with clothes.
Yeah.
With how you dress up.
Like the guy at the head of the World Bank doesn't wear like a giant tie.
Imagine if being the head of the World Bank, you had a hat.
Yeah.
The head of every major corporation should have a hat.
Yeah, and the size of the hat should be indexed to the share price.
So do you think it's an inflatable hat?
Yeah, and then be like the hat index, and then you could line up all the heads of all the major corporations,
and by looking at the height of their hats, that would give you an accurate representation of the state of the stock market.
As you can see, the wings on Gary's hat.
Gary, head of corporation.
Yeah, good.
This is corp, corp.
Corp, corp.
Oh, yeah, corp, corp.
Yeah, corp is how you pronounce it in French, corp.
Anyway, it's body, though. When you say corp how you pronounce it in French. Corps. Anyway.
It's body, though.
When you say corps, I think it means body.
Anyway.
Well, I guess corporations are body. Yeah, but an army corps.
That's true.
Army body.
Army body.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Lots of arms.
The wings have gotten bigger because of the share price.
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah.
This is what I noticed.
I watched some Bill Cosby yesterday.
And things like that, which I would go like, i would just normally go you know and then it's just a person and then you then a person kind
of like you know dances for a bit right yeah but i would just go yeah yeah that bit you know you
get the point you know what a person dancing or walking looks like but he'll go and he'll do it
and he'll get comedy out of that and i was like i forgot what the point of this whole thing was
to get comedy out of things not just to to like, anyway, that's my point.
Yeah, to efficiently make the comment that you were trying to make.
Yeah.
But okay, wait, I'm going to write the big hats thing.
Yeah.
Big hats slash big corporations.
Yeah, and you could also do it with like when the United Nations meets or something.
You could have, you know, when they get together for that photo opportunity that they always do when the G8 meets or something.
Yeah.
That's a missed opportunity to have a really accurate, like, a pie chart or histogram of GDP.
Yeah, and, like, every leader of everything should have a hat
Like I think that's something that's been lost to history
And that just you know
Vatican's really good at keeping history going
And that's great
But we've lost that to history
Is that every leader gets a hat
We've lost sight of the church's teachings
Which are that hats are important
Yeah
And that they're a representation of status and power yeah and then
and then unless you got a big hat then you're a nobody and you don't deserve respect
why would i why would i listen to you you don't where's your hat right i can just i can see your
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You're a nobody.
You're clearly, look, you're wearing a bathing cap.
You're wearing a bathing cap.
Eh?
That's... Yeah.
Maybe, do you think there'd be one,
there'd be like an organization whose...
whose big hat would just be like one of those bald caps?
Well, that's a religious thing as well.
Like some...
Where people pretend to be bald?
Oh, yeah, okay.
Not a...
Okay, not an actual bald cat.
We dress up as bald people.
Yeah.
We pretend.
Is that like a black face of bald people?
That's very, yeah, that's probably very offensive.
Yeah, look, we're all pretending to be bald.
Whoa, look at me.
You're insulting our plight.
Yeah.
Is that plight?
Well, now you're comparing blackness to being our plight. Yeah. Is that plight? Was that used correctly?
Well, now you're comparing blackness to being a plight.
Well done, Al.
Well done.
No, I meant the suffering that they were through.
No, well, if that's the comment you're trying to make.
Didn't they have a plight?
I mean, they had a plight.
Yes.
It's a funny moment whenever the first pope who decided he wanted to wear a hat
was, like, talking to his second-in-command and said,
I think I need a hat.
I think I need a hat.
And the guy said, are you sure?
Because, you know, you're God's representative on Earth.
And he's like, yeah.
Yeah, no, I think I want a long, pointy hat.
Well, like, the hat could point at God.
Okay. It could could point at God. Okay.
It could remind people of God.
So it's like having an arrow on your head pointing up.
Yeah.
Do you want to just, like, have a hat that's like a big finger
just going up towards God?
Oh, no, that would make everybody think of Copernicus's finger.
Are you worried you're going to look like one of the coneheads
from the Dad Akron movie, Coneheads?
And he'd say, well, no, that hasn't been made yet.
Yeah, but it might get made.
Yeah.
And then I think that would be embarrassing.
But maybe we'll just make it a different colour.
We won't make it flesh-coloured.
It is kind of flesh-coloured.
What I want is essentially like a church steeple on my head.
You want to dress up as a church?
Yeah.
I want to look a little bit more like a church.
It was a fancy dress.
Gathering of cardinals gone wrong.
Do you want a bit of stained glass in your head?
Yes, I want a little window and I want a bell
so that when I shake my head around, it rings.
Or on the hour.
On the hour.
When mass starts.
Yeah.
Maybe no glass in it because, you know, I mean, it is a big hat and if it catches the wind...
Like, he doesn't have a chin strap for that hat.
No.
It's got to be some pretty heavy-duty design going into keeping that hat on.
Yeah, there's probably some flying buttresses in there.
Flying buttress?
Flying buttress.
I don't know what that is.
It's a major architectural development.
Oh.
Yeah.
Is it like that arc?
Yeah, it's a sort of an arch thing that allowed you to build much taller cathedrals than you would have been able to otherwise oh well i'm
i'm just amazed by the invention of the arch yeah that like anybody was like i could be bothered
trying to make this this door circular at the top in this like in this way that doesn't look like
it's all those bricks should hold together yeah Yeah. But also, when you were building that arch, it had to be like, it's not until you put that last keystone in at the top that the arch can actually support itself.
Yeah.
So the whole time you were building it, everyone would have been like, mate, it's not going to work.
What are you doing?
But how did they do that?
Would they have like a curved thing underneath just holding it?
Yeah. They had a wooden structure.
Oh.
Yeah.
So that's actually quite easy.
That actually makes a lot of sense.
Makes a lot of sense.
Really quite boring.
No reason to discuss it.
Well, somebody...
No, I saw someone use that as like an example about...
Metaphor?
Yeah, metaphor for evolution.
Why didn't they just make the comment?
Yeah, that's true
it's embarrassing because
now I've remembered it and I could have forgotten
this thing without
but like yeah that
you've got something in place there that kind of holds it
like you know so it's like you know they say
for some of the arguments that are like well
how did the eye evolve
yeah it's like oh it's too complex
for it to have evolved.
I don't know how people can come to that conclusion.
This is too complex to have evolved.
It must have been built by somebody.
Yeah, it must have been designed.
There must have gone through maybe a tender process.
Tender process.
They got a tender.
They got a tender.
They started off with a brief.
Yeah.
We want an eye we
want something that we could see through yeah yeah you know at the moment uh blindness isn't
working for us all that well somebody would have drawn up some plans no one would have been able
to see them it would have been horrible so they would have had to make a design it would have
just felt like a like a circular ball of some sort. Yeah, yeah. All right.
But then the concept, how do you even come up with a concept of seeing if you're blind?
I mean, this is...
Well, maybe they'd heard the song Amazing Grace and they were like, oh, cool.
Well, they liked that.
Okay, you were blind and now you can see.
What is that?
Can you explain sight to me?
Yeah.
Because it was a religious song, right?
I imagine that when the intelligent design was happening. Yeah. Because it was a religious song, right? I imagine that when the intelligent design was happening.
Yeah.
Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, was blind but now I see.
See?
See?
See?
It's, so he would have heard the big bang.
Yeah.
He would have gone, oh, I like sensations.
Let's get me some more of that.
Yeah.
Because I imagine there was more to experience than that.
Probably some heat.
Maybe you didn't have a sense of touch yet.
You know?
Which probably would have been ideal if you were living through the Big Bang.
Not being able to feel it.
Oh, yes.
Priceless.
Yeah.
Priceless.
But we're mixing our concepts.
Yeah, but I don't mind the idea of coming up with the intelligent design for the eye.
You're blind and then you want to see as a thing.
And then because the tender process, all that kind of stuff.
Look, all the engineers are going to love that.
Yeah.
They know.
Maybe architects might get involved.
We might get some YouTube views if we did that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah that in the architectural...
But there'd be all these problems with the...
You could do all the jokes about the disagreements
between the architects and the engineers.
Yeah.
Well, we're going to need something to keep dust out of there.
We're going to have to build an open closing door.
Well, that seems completely unreasonable.
That's going to be very obtrusive and unsightly.
What if we had a roller door?
That's the point that it's unsightly.
That's what we're creating, unsightly lids.
Sightly. You want something sightly.
Yeah, we want something that will look like a snake.
Why do you need two eyes?
What does a snake look like?
What if we just built...
Okay, let's do...
What if we just did one?
Yeah, well, no, I...
You've got to think about maintenance.
Yeah, okay, but then what if you lose that one?
Right, and I feel that...
Then you'll just get another one.
Oh, so they're going to...
What, they're like shark's teeth and they just keep...
Yeah.
It's stuff from your skin keeps growing through into your eye socket
and then becomes a tooth.
It becomes an eye.
You want eyes or teeth in your eye?
I want eye teeth.
Okay.
But I feel like, look, I don't really know because I've never seen, but I have a feeling there would be some advantage to having two eyes.
I don't know.
Maybe we would...
I just, you know, just perspective from two different points.
I don't know if that would help.
It's going to cost more. Well, that's true if that would help. It's going to cost more.
Well, that's true.
That's true.
It's going to probably consume more energy.
Yeah, it's going to take twice as long.
I don't know if the council's going to go for it, to be honest.
Yeah.
The face council.
There's going to be a lot of facial real estate that you're talking about there.
That's true.
I mean, that could be used for other stuff.
Like, we were thinking about having another mouth.
Really?
Yeah.
But why would we do that?
So that you can talk and eat at the same time.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that would be less rude.
That would be less rude.
Because currently, you're eating that egg salad.
I am.
Yeah.
And I would find that really unsightly.
If I could see it. If I could see it.
If I could see it.
But the smell isn't great.
And if you had two eyes, you'd probably see it twice as much.
That'd be twice as offensive.
Well, that would be a waste of time as well, wouldn't it?
Just having two images of the same thing.
Yeah.
Then we'd have to get some programmers in just to join the sights together.
I mean, the logistics.
You could probably have a much smaller brain if you just had one eye.
Yeah, that's true.
Have a much smaller brain and then you could use some of that space for something else,
like maybe another mouth.
Or, you know, maybe some protective area for that brain.
Yeah.
Or another mouth would be good, actually, in the brain.
Get another mouth in there.
Yeah, something to drink the fluid that's in there.
Because, you know,
sometimes you get a lot,
you know, it could be like
a camel's hump,
but in the brain,
you store all that fluid in there.
Just fill it with fluid.
It could be a reservoir.
Yeah.
You know, and plus it's...
It's the perfect shape.
Yeah, and maybe you could...
We could get some hydroelectricity
from that,
because if you get the water
up high like that,
then when it falls
we could get some turbines
maybe somewhere
in the throat
or
alright it's done
like that
and then you could use
that energy maybe to
you know
maybe we could have
light coming out of that eye
for night vision
see that would be great
yeah
light eyes
light eyes
they could do that with Google
anyway I'm writing that idea down
because I think we've
we've got a bit of it.
Well, we've talked about it so long that we have to write it down.
We have to write it down because or else...
I think it got probably pretty self-indulgent and boring about a third of the way through.
I know, but that's where we're finding stuff.
Yeah, no, we're finding stuff.
This whole thing is self-indulgent.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
We're talking to each other about ideas that we came up with for our own benefit.
Yeah, this is the part that artists and performers will normally hide from people,
the process of creating things and the enjoyment that comes from creating things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The whole thing is self-indulgent.
All right, so...
Oh, it's very...
It indulges the audience.
It indulges the audience a bit too much, that art.
Yeah.
I felt like the artist wasn't really thinking about themselves
when they put on that exhibition of all of their own work.
I mean, the audience really came away feeling a bit overindulged.
Yeah.
Well, it wasn't...
I had to sleep it off.
I felt like the other person who was getting the most out of this
was me, because I was indulged, but also the artist
was getting quite a bit out of it.
I mean, it's an interesting thing, because I reckon like Dr. Brown isn't self-indulgent.
No?
I don't know.
What do you reckon?
Like, the extent to which he is just almost just reacting to the audience and giving them
what they want.
Yeah.
Dr. Brown is a performance artist.
Performance.
Comedian.
Clown-ish.
Clown-median.
Clown-median.
Performance clown.
Yeah, he won the Barry last year.
Yeah.
And it's all about bringing joy into the audience.
Yeah.
Is life.
Yeah, which is pretty cool.
And I think he enjoys it as well.
So I must be very self-indulgent of him.
Is that the thing?
Is that, like, if it just indulges
yourself,
then that's bad.
Because I guess you're forgetting about the audience.
If
just the audience enjoys it, then you're not having
any fun, and that's bad. But I don't know how that's possible. I don't know how it would be possible for just the audience enjoys it then you're not having any fun and that's bad
but I don't know how that's possible
I don't know how it would be possible
for just the audience to enjoy something
while you're not having a good time
I mean that's a cruel audience
people laughing
I guess
when Christians were thrown to the lions
in the Colosseum
and the audience loved watching it
you couldn't accrue the Christians of being self-indulgent Christians were thrown to the lions in the Colosseum, and the audience loved watching it.
You couldn't accrue the Christians of being self-indulgent.
No.
They were the opposite of self-indulgent.
Yeah.
That was really a selfless act.
It was.
An involuntary selfless act.
Yeah.
Well, I guess if you're not being indulgent, you're being exploited, probably.
No one refers to the exploited as being selfless.
Yeah.
But that's what they are.
The way they gave of themselves.
Yeah.
The way the slaves, the way the, you know.
The, oh, yeah, slaves.
Slaves is... They're very selfless people.
Yeah.
But then again, you know, they're still thinking about themselves
They're like, oh I gotta get out of this
I gotta get out of this
Out of this lion pen
Me, me, me
So that's in a way
Look at him, running for his life
Running for his life
What about us?
What about my life?
What about the lion's life?
Yeah.
It's very self-indulgent, the way he's trying not to be torn apart by that lion.
It's selfish.
Trying to keep all his flesh to himself.
You know, persecuted slaves these days, they only ever think about themselves.
Yeah.
Alright.
I'm writing this down.
Slaves. How would you, I'm writing this down. Slaves are...
How would you...
I don't know how you would do that.
Like, would you do that
as, like, art critics
sitting at the Coliseum?
Selfish.
In the...
No, I don't like the idea of slaves.
I like...
I like lion pit Christians.
You've written pit with two Ts.
Yeah.
I like Brad Pitt.
Lion Pitt. He was's Yeah Like Brad Pitt Lion Pitt
He was thrown into a Brad Pitt
Full of Pitt
Brads
Who chased him around
And tore him apart
For their own enjoyment
Full of lions from Brad Pitt's bloodline
I mean
If you could interbreed
Lions with any human Probably Brad Pitt because he looks like he's physically healthy.
Well, the way he's got his hair and beard at the moment, he's very leonine.
Oh.
Leonine.
Lionine.
Leonic.
Leonic?
Yeah, hairy.
He's got a big mane.
He's our main man.
Yeah.
By the way, okay, we've already got one, two, three, four, five, six.
Yeah.
Six.
Six.
Some of them were weaker.
I feel like we're getting stronger.
I mean, how long have we been doing this?
Yeah, okay.
You check.
Move the mouse.
You've got to look up the top there.
Oh, yeah?
Oh, yeah.
40 minutes or something. 46 minutes. Yeah.
Okay. How are you guys going, audience? What do you reckon? Could you do another 15? If you've stuck through this much, I really want to explore this lion pit thing. I mean, you could remake all the movies of Brad Pitt with Lion, like an attractive lion.
Yeah.
He is eating in a lot of his films.
That's apparently a thing, like, of Brad Pitt's.
That he likes to...
He likes to eat when he's acting, like he's an eating actor.
I think particularly in the Ocean's Eleven movies, he was eating in almost
every scene.
Wow.
And it looks good.
So it's just like a lion holding on to a zebra.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And then he says something that Brad Pitt would say.
What about something about...
All right, let's change the subject.
Okay.
Do you want to change the subject?
Yeah, I want to.
Yeah, what about The Law of the Jungle?
Yeah.
What about doing that with, like, lawyers?
The Law, yeah.
Yeah.
It's like a show called The Law of the Jungle, right?
So it's a new concept.
It's Jungle Lawyers.
Yeah.
Because they always start with a title of these shows,
like Martial Law, right?
Yeah. It was a girl called Marshall who was title of these shows, like Martial Law, right? Yeah.
There was a girl called Marshall who was a lawyer.
Oh, is that what it was?
But they started with the words, the expression Martial Law.
Yeah.
Right?
So you start with the name and then you work back.
So we started Law of the Jungle.
Yeah.
Right?
And it's lawyers.
Yeah.
In the jungle.
Okay.
And who are they representing?
Like corporations?
We're getting back to that other one
Yeah
Who are persecuting selfless orangutans
It's the law of the jungle out here
Yeah
No, they're not persecuting
They're saving orangutans from suffering
From suffering
Yeah
From their horrible existence
As orangutans.
Exist-i.
Anyway, but, no, wait.
These guys, okay, so they're in there, but, like, is it like the movie Ed?
No, the TV show Ed, where he, like, he's a lawyer slash bowling alley owner.
What?
Yeah, that's what that was the TV show Ed was about.
Wasn't that Ed where he was on TV all the time?
No, no, yeah, that was a movie Ed, but this is the TV show Ed was about. Wasn't that Ed where he was on TV all the time? No, no.
Yeah, that was a movie Ed, but this is the TV show Ed.
Okay.
Yeah.
He was a lawyer and bowling alley owner.
Owner.
Yeah.
But this is...
Yeah, I don't know about these high-pressure law cases.
I don't know if there's going to be enough to hold people.
Yeah.
We need something else.
Yeah.
Let's give him a bowling alley.
Yeah.
Yeah, and Michael Ian Black worked in the bowling alley.
Yeah.
And he would say, Bosco.
Like that.
That's how he would refer to his boss.
Anyway.
So, okay.
So these guys, they're lawyers in the jungle and they've got a bowling alley.
Yeah.
Great.
And it's called Law of the Jungle.
Yeah.
And bowling.
And bowling. And bowling. And bowling.
And the rules of bowling.
The bumpers are up for a new edition of Law of...
No, that was supposed to be the sound of pins falling over it?
Yeah.
No, that's hard to do.
Well, ever having tried to do that before.
It's quite a great wood sound, two of those.
And there's a Zulu band in there.
Yeah.
That's awful.
Yeah, okay, that's not going anywhere.
Yeah.
I don't like that idea.
Law of the Jungle?
I don't.
I mean, look, it's a cool idea.
It's not.
Eh?
No, but it's a cool idea.
It's like you could do it as a preview or something.
Yeah, like a trailer or something.
Yeah.
Up next on Lore of the Jungle.
Lore of the Jungle.
And then it's just a guy walking.
All I see is a guy walking through the bush,
maybe through with a machete, hacking away at something,
and then he's wearing a brown suit and a suitcase.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then he would get attacked by some sort of a cat or something,
but then there'd be something with a restraining order
or an injunction against the cat, which he's trying to...
Here are your divorce papers, Mr. Cthulhu.
Oh, Cthulhu.
Cthulhu!
There's just a tentacled beast from another dimension.
All right.
What about Law of the Jungle Boys? Yeah. Is that the guys who are doing the... alright what about Love
the Jungle Boys
is that
yeah
is that the guys
who are doing the
the sketch show
the elegant gentleman's
not a guide to knife fighting
yeah
yeah
I don't want to make
any comments about that
yeah
what about a show
called City to City
right
you know Jungle to Jungle
yeah
it's where a guy
comes out of the jungle
and goes into the
concrete jungle of the city where a guy comes out of the jungle and goes into the concrete jungle of the city.
A guy goes from one city into another city.
Into another city.
And he's about to find out that things are a lot similar to the way they were.
You guys have Chinatown too?
McDonald's.
Oh.
I know exactly how things work here
What do you call this?
A toothbrush?
Anyway
He just brushes his teeth
For 25 minutes
But he's constantly surprised
At how things are exactly the same
Exactly the same
Oh my god
A skyscraper
Yep
City to city A skyscraper. Yep.
City to city.
Can we just end the show on that sigh?
Yeah. Okay, so wait.
Ready?
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The most discouraging 45 minutes.
That just ends.
Just ends.
It just ends.
With people running out of ideas.
Yeah, well, I mean, that kind of makes sense.
And trying your patience.
It's silly to keep going after you've run out of ideas.
Yeah, but there's no such thing as running out of ideas.
But also, like, it would be fun if the show ended five minutes after we ran out of ideas.
Yeah, well, that's what is happening.
What, you're saying city to city isn't a good idea?
No, well, it's an idea.
You're right. It was still considered an idea,
technically. You can't argue.
On paper, we're fine.
Legally, yes.
Technically, sure.
That would meet the legal
definition of an idea.
It's not brain-dead.
You could argue that it is
still alive.
But we're not just looking for ideas.
There's conscious thought occurring here.
If you hooked
yourself up to a biofeedback
kind of brain scanner
thing, you could see that there is some activity
going on in your mind.
There's a really obvious satire thing to be done
where you try and you you you know when people are in in a long-term coma or something they want
to measure whether or not there's any brain activity like there's a really obvious thing
where you like you ask them to pitch a movie idea and if at any point they mention frat parties, you can safely switch off the life support system.
No, I'm sorry.
You're not.
Yeah.
You're not conscious.
You're not alive.
That'd be nice.
I think maybe the bar is just set too low for how much conscious brain activity.
I really think that I probably wasn't a conscious being until I was about 21.
Yeah. I look back on it and I'm like, I didn't know what I was doing before that.
Like, even maybe a bit later than that.
Like, I was not self-aware.
I said that to my brother about him.
Like, he just didn't seem like he was there.
Like, he would kind of play with his stuff and things like that.
But I don't really remember him having a personality.
Oh, he did. I'm just joking. This is probably more about you just not realizing that other people
are human but he's also like after i told it to him he was just like yeah it's like i came out
of something and he kind of like became a human at some point really yeah like he's like he came
he was in a shell yeah he was like more internal like he was completely internal and just like
like it was just like a car trying to start up.
He was just...
So instead, he was just sitting inside the car, just fiddling with knobs and things like that.
But he never went around and interacted with the world.
But he was, but on a minimum level. Not what you would call... would call it like a an active vegetative state
yeah yeah i mean he's out there sure he's getting about like he's living his life but he's not we
could switch off the machine yeah it's a pity he's not hooked up to a machine yeah that we can switch
off it's a pity that he's so loved by everyone yeah because uh you're not you're not here with
i mean in a sense we're all on a life support system,
aren't we, Alistair?
Like, I mean,
I don't get food mashed up
and poured into my veins,
but I get it dug out of the ground,
taken to a supermarket
and presented to me
in reasonable-sized portions
that's 200 metres away from my house.
Like, compared...
Relative to someone living
in a jungle yeah i am on a life support system and they would probably like if they saw me just
sitting there on the couch all day watching shit on youtube they would probably say he's not alive
yeah he's not he's mental like you should probably switch off that system that provides food to him
through the supermarket in order so that he can just die naturally.
Yeah, and in order to do it, you would have to just go to
Hazelwood coal power plant station and just pull that out.
Pull that plug out.
Just go to every node in the electrical system
where there's electricity coming in
and start shutting down main roads and logistical systems and things like that.
It's a little bit more complicated pulling the plug.
It is.
It's almost more effort than it's worth.
Just to watch me waste away and die.
Yeah.
Which I would.
Yeah, eventually.
There's no question.
No, but I mean, you might.
You'd have to close down fishing shops and things like that.
Maybe even second-hand stores where there might be equipment where you could go and hunt.
But it would be really hard for my
family watching as well.
Just to see me wasting away like that.
But it's probably
what I would have wanted.
That's true.
Yeah.
Switching off
life support system
for someone who's not really on life support.
Life support.
There'd also be, like, and we would never do this, but, like, this is definitely a thing that you would do.
Like, you put someone through, like, an MRI to do a brain scan, and what comes up on the screen of the brain scan is just, like, you know, a rerun of Friends or something.
And then you'd be like, oh, yeah.
If that's what's happening in their brain.
Yeah.
Wait, so you...
Not Friends.
Like, Friends is a bad example.
What's a really, really shit TV show?
I don't know.
I don't want to judge what people watch on TV.
No, let's judge.
Come on.
What about Matlock?
I've never seen Matlock.
I only know Matlock as a punchline in The Simpsons.
Yeah, okay.
So, yeah, that.
Matlock.
I think it was actually pretty good, probably, but it doesn't matter.
Stateline.
Stateline?
It's like a current affairs film.
Oh, with farmers.
How could you have just a TV show that's aimed directly at farmers?
No, that's Landline.
Oh, okay.
Stateline is worse, though.
It's aimed directly at people in the state of Victoria or something.
It's awful.
I don't know if it's even on anymore.
Well, that's good.
It feels so awful.
So then you hook up somebody to an MRI.
Yeah, you do a scan of their brain.
It's an episode of Stateline.
In their brain, you pull the plug.
You pull the plug.
You pull the plug.
So basically what we're saying is that if you're stupid...
No, yeah, I know, that's cruel.
But not stupid, but just like...
But it was supposed to be like an attack on...
It was supposed to be like, our lives...
Like, we're not...
Are we as alive
as someone living in the jungle?
Who every day has to actually,
you know, fight to survive?
Well, they don't have
as much time to think about
whether or not they're alive.
And I think being alive
is thinking about
whether you're alive.
Oh.
So we should switch off
the life support systems
of people who live in jungles.
Yeah.
We should cut down the jungle.
Just stop their suffering.
And stop their suffering.
I mean, they're probably truly happy.
Yeah.
They're probably almost in a state of bliss all the time.
Yeah, but that's a kind of suffering.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
You know, too much of a good thing.
You know when you have too much ice cream and you feel sick
It's probably like that but with happiness
Orgasms are good
But imagine if they were going for like 30 minutes
You'd be like
Jesus, stop contracting
Contracting
What kind of contractions?
I think guys have contractions
Contractual agreements
Do you think They're like similar muscles I think kind of contractions. I think guys have contractions, right? Contractual agreements.
Do you think they're like similar muscles that push a baby out?
Exactly the same.
Like they push just a thing of semen out?
But it's just faster.
It's just more efficient.
Another reason why men are superior. they're capable of pushing things out faster
out of their genitalia. I'm sorry about saying that men are superior. They're not in any
way.
This is the thing that I really want to do something with. It's like a misogynist, right?
Is there a Mr.-ogenous?
It doesn't make any sense But it's
Yeah, I like it
Or someone who's like a misogynist guy
Who's like, yeah, I'm a misogynist
Oh, sorry, sorry
Muz-ogenous
Muz
Because he's a misogynist
But he's also really respectful
Of not using terms that fit with the patriarchy I don't say misogynist, but he's also really respectful of not using gender-like terms that fit with the patriarchy.
I don't say misogynist because that conforms to the miss-misses dichotomy of a woman is either waiting to be married or she's married.
So I refer to myself as a misogynist.
And I think without having to sigh,
I think we ended on some ideas.
Yeah.
We pushed through the sigh barrier.
Yeah, through the sigh barrier.
And so this has been two in the think tank.
We've had, okay, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven ideas today.
Yeah, two bonus ideas.
Yeah.
Oh, look, we've got artists making comments in gallery instead of making work.
It just stands next to the plaque.
We've got no metaphor symbols, that all art should just be a perfect representation of life.
Yep.
And that the government should legislate that for those people so that they're not confused.
Logging companies justifying logging rainforests
to stop animal suffering,
you know, animal violence and things like that.
Big hats for leaders
and big corporations and organizations.
Every leader should have a hat.
But also that would be good
because if they were actually leading
in a big bunch of people,
you'd be able to see who was the leader and you'd know how to follow them.
It's like people holding a sign.
Yeah, exactly.
There he is.
He's the leader.
Let's follow him.
Because otherwise you're just following other people and they might be leading you astray.
Yeah.
Or they might not be leading, you might just be following them astray.
Anyway, intelligent design meetings for eyes,
which would be like the sort of architects meeting the engineers
about aesthetics and function and things like that.
That would be a really weird thing.
It would have to be an audio sketch.
That wouldn't have to be.
Do that one for the radio.
You could just have a bunch of guys with just like empty holes for empty eye sockets.
I think that would be great.
Or just darkness in there.
Lion pit Christians are selfish.
Well, I mean, there's also the idea that they're selfless.
Yeah.
But they're the only non-self-indulgent performers.
But at the same time, they're super selfish.
Yeah.
Yeah. My flesh, they're super selfish. Yeah.
My flesh, all mine.
And switching off life support systems for someone
who isn't on it.
Shutting down society.
Shutting off society, yeah.
That's pretty good.
There's a few other freebie ideas in there too.
And one, two, three.
Oh.
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