Two In The Think Tank - 06 - "The CEO of Yamaha"
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Oh, iced tea for breakfast.
Iced tea for breakfast.
Iced tea for breakfast.
And mayonnaise So, that was our
Is that really, is this really your breakfast?
No, you had eggs before
You made me eggs, but
But ice tea for breakfast, you know
I think it's a good thing
I didn't make you eggs
You didn't?
No, well, I mean, the chicken made the eggs
Oh
Oh
Ice tea for breakfast eggs. You didn't? No, well, I mean the chicken made the eggs. Oh!
Ice tea for breakfast!
Oh! Ice tea for breakfast!
Yeah! Ice tea!
I always say for breakfast because that way
no one thinks I'm talking about
Ice T, the actor, slash
rapper. But some people have probably had him around for breakfast.
That's true.
Not like over to their house, just like around.
He's just been like around when they're having breakfast.
I'm just playing the X-Cube.
The X-Cube?
Xbox.
Ice-T around for breakfast.
Around. I can't do it on my own. I tea around for breakfast. Around.
I can't do it on my own.
I can't imagine him...
I can't beat Becks on my own.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Well, you can, but you just didn't.
That's all it was.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
But, um...
Do you imagine he eats breakfast?
Ice tea?
Or do you think he's one of those guys like,
I don't even eat breakfast.
Like that.
Oh, one of those guys.
Yeah.
But he probably has a really big lunch.
It's just like he's got too much attitude for muesli or something like that.
Or just like toast.
Yeah.
You think there are some guys who, like, definitely, yes.
Like, it's definitely the...
Breakfast is the thing that divides the men from the iced tea.
Well, it's the girliest of the meals.
Oh, that's a bit misogynist.
Is it?
No.
But, like, for somebody who's, like...
You know people who are, like, who claim to be manly?
Yeah.
Right?
And they don't do things that are, like, anything that even has the slightest hint of femininity about it.
Breakfast is a bit feminine.
It's kind of light.
Often there's raw oats involved and yogurt.
Yogurt is quite a feminine product.
I think it's like, in terms of the way breakfast is marketed,
breakfast as a concept is marketed,
which is weird because some things are weird when they get marketed. Breakfast as a concept is marketed, which is weird because it's weird.
Some things are weird when they get marketed.
Isn't it like there's an egg council who just market eggs?
Yeah.
Anyway, that's not relevant.
But like breakfast is marketed to women, I think.
Like you don't sit.
Yeah.
Well, Nutri-Grain is to men.
Oh, that's a man breakfast.
Because there's always a guy going,
and climbing mountains and things like that. But even that isn'train is to men. Oh, that's a man breakfast. Like, because there's always a guy going, and climbing mountains and things like that.
But even that isn't really marketed to men.
That's marketed to kids.
Is it?
Yeah.
I feel like it's marketed to men.
I don't think so.
But men are children these days.
Oh.
Hey.
Yeah.
But muesli is, I don't really market muesli, but it definitely doesn't feel like anyone's put a mustache on it yet.
No.
That's how I conceptualize the idea of marketing to men. It's put a mustache on it.
Wheat Bix, again, I think marketed to boys and teenage boys.
Yeah, that's true. Special K is definitely to women.
teenage boys.
Yeah, that's true.
Special K is definitely to women.
Where's the cereal for the middle-aged man?
Do you reckon they've just given up on those guys?
Like maybe at some point they realised that our coffee wheats or whatever they were trying to market to middle-aged men.
What would you market to middle-aged men?
Well, middle-aged men.
Middle-aged men don't even appear in advertising usually.
They're usually like a young, handsome dad of some sort.
Or actually, no.
Middle-aged men get marketed to in car ads.
And watches, I think.
Yeah.
But they definitely have breakfast more than they buy cars.
Yeah, and wear watches.
Or buy watches.
Especially expensive watches.
I don't know how those people make money, watchmakers.
Oh, my God.
But, I mean, they must just make so much money off one watch.
Like Rolex would sell two watches a year maybe,
but they just make so much of it that they can run their entire organization.
Guys, we sold our watch for the year.
Everyone take a week off.
Yeah, that's our half-yearly productivity meeting.
Where I just go, yeah.
Has anybody sold a watch?
I sold one.
Great.
Everybody go home.
One more watch to sell this year.
This year.
If we get this done, we can all have a half holiday.
Yeah.
Breakfast, though.
Okay.
So, bacon.
Bacon is marketed to middle-aged men.
But those are the guys, like, they're not going to be able to keep eating breakfast forever because their cholesterol is going up and they're going to have heart attacks.
That's true.
We need to invent a cereal that we can market to middle-aged men.
Okay.
Well, what do middle-aged men have?
All right.
They're humorless.
They're balding.
They're balding.
Yeah.
They're tired by life because they've been working too hard, but they also think that that's really important.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm liking this.
Something like, it's almost like, you know, low GI is a thing.
And you market that a lot to mums to feed to their kids, right?
Something that'll keep their kids going through the morning.
Yeah. Okay. Add a lot to mums to feed to their kids, right? Something that will keep their kids going through the morning, okay?
Now, something that will keep your middle-aged man going through the grinding monotony that is his day.
Just the perpetual state of crisis and inactivity that is.
So, does it validate his beliefs?
inactivity that is... So, does it validate his beliefs? I don't...
I think it just makes it easier for him to
maintain his level of
whatever it is
that he's doing. Okay. I'm thinking peanuts.
Okay. Peanuts in there?
Yeah. My dad loves peanuts. Yeah. Great.
Salty peanuts. Salty.
A salty cereal. This could be the thing.
Because everyone's
going for sweet roasted
nut. No, that's true salty so savory yeah
cereal um it's kind of sour milk um i think you actually put coffee on it okay so it's a coffee
based nut cereal coffee based nut cereal so that way that way the milk makes more sense yeah yeah
and okay is there any fruit that you can picture a middle-aged man eating?
Not really, right?
I'm just scanning the fruits.
Wait, apples, oranges, bananas.
I feel like maybe there'd be some big raisins in there.
Like, is there anything that you could just put, like, oh, yeah, big, or, like, dates or something like that?
Yeah, dates.
Dates, but I don't know.
Whole dates.
Yeah. With the seeds still in them. Yeah, but like... Yeah, dates. Dates, but I don't know. Whole dates. Yeah.
With a seed still in them.
Yeah, but they just
chew right through.
Like, what about chicken bones?
Just little dried flakes
of chicken.
Chicken flakes.
Yeah, chicken flakes.
Peanuts, chicken flakes.
Or just like
protein flakes.
Unnamed protein.
Yeah, like... Just... You pour a coffee over it. Something extract. Or just like protein flakes. Unnamed protein. Yeah.
Like just...
You pour a coffee over it.
Something extract, you know, like protein extract.
Yeah.
And like, because they're also practical.
You consider these guys like practical.
Like I'm not going to bother with all this flavor and stuff like that.
I just want to get everything I need in a day in there.
So we've got protein extract and we we got like a like a vitamin and mineral powder what if it's the first breakfast cereal to
actually it includes laxatives as well or so just whatever middle age is the time when you start to
need to just take medication just to sort of keep your body functioning yeah so the laxative is also
there to counter the like you know people
have laxatives to lose weight yeah so it's just like it's just there to keep like it'll actually
just you'll shit stuff that shouldn't be shut up but you'll also lose weight yep and and what's
and what's it called um okay um grind like not crunch but grind grind I think it's called grind
yeah
yeah
okay
that's good
so it's called grind
and then it's just got
everything is just
essentially a powder
no I think that there's
chunks
I think there's whole peanuts
and stuff
okay yeah
and you pour coffee over it
yeah
black coffee
daily grind
daily grind
yeah and it's just named after what we're trying to get what validates their coffee over it. Black coffee. Daily grind. Daily grind.
Yeah.
And it's just named after what we're
trying to get
what validates
their
what they just go
through.
They're humorless.
Oh.
Do you think we've
lost any middle-aged
male listeners?
I don't think we've
gained any.
They wouldn't listen
to things.
They're not into fun.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Like this is too
much fun.
Yeah this is too
much fun.
We're having too
much fun. Daily grind. I'm going fun. We're having too much fun.
Daily grind.
I'm going to write this.
Cereal for the middle-aged man.
For middle-aged man.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, and sometimes there can be little giveaways in there, like in the packet.
Yeah, that they can just throw away because they don't need that shit.
Throw away unopened.
Yeah.
Throw this away unopened. That's all unopened that's all it even just says that
on the instructions they don't won't even bother reading them but and and what in what is in there
is just some sort of vague shape made out of plastic yeah it was made with a 3d printer so
they're interested in that level it's it's all it's in there they're interested in that level. They're interested in that. Middle-aged guys find 3D printers fascinating.
Yeah.
They do, don't they?
Yeah.
3D printers.
What is this made out of?
Oh, well.
Just throw it out.
But it's printed in 3D.
Yeah, it's amazing.
It's an incredible piece of technology
that will change the world eventually.
But in the meantime,
just chuck it.
They just like to be reminded about 3D printers.
Yeah.
On the label it says, just a reminder about 3D printers.
Throw this away, it's just here to remind you about 3D printers.
And that just gives them that tiny germ of excitement to start the day.
Maybe occasionally there's tickets to like a manufacturing conference
or exhibition of some sort.
Down at the exhibition centre
on South Wharf. Yeah.
A two for one voucher.
Yeah, to go to a manufacturing
conference exhibition.
A manufacturing conference exhibition
where you go there and there's just
a few small
conferences going on around and you can check them out you walk past the conference you get
a brochure it's like an aquarium of manufacturing conferences they're all happening behind glass
there's one where you could go through a tube and the conference is going taking place sort
of over your head and you could look up. Yeah, you could just see.
The conference.
Manufacturing.
It's like somebody giving a talk and they've got a PowerPoint which has got like pieces of metal with holes bored in it.
Or they're talking about like cooling fluids.
And there's actually one of the conferences is about boring yeah
it's a boring conference about about boring yeah and just like some of the advanced oh i've actually
what looked i've actually been through a lecture about this like about like the the microscope
like like this sort of the effect on the structure of the metal
when you cut it with different things, like just really close up.
Different cutting tools.
Yeah, different cutting tools and the effect on the crystalline structure of the particular alloy.
Okay, is it wrong that I actually find that interesting?
I'd like to know about that.
Yeah, that's wrong.
That's wrong.
Okay, good.
That's what, Andy, you're essentially a middle-aged man in a younger man's body.
I'm a younger man.
I'm a young man in a middle-aged man's jumper.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The jumper's starting to take over, like in Spider-Man 3.
I haven't seen that one, but I'm guessing that's with Venom?
With Venom.
Yeah.
I haven't seen that one either, but I'm guessing it's with Venom.
I would have said it's more like The Nutty Professor.
But instead of being a fat guy, you're a young guy.
Yeah.
And instead of becoming cool and a great lover, you just become a middle-aged man who's interested in boring.
And a great lover.
And a great lover and the great lover
like you can't imagine somebody being interested in sort of metal work like like like sort of like
like like metal work done by robotics like manufacturing and things like that and then
and he's an amazing rocking it in the bedroom. Oh my god.
You know what they say, crazy in the manufacturing plant, crazy in the bed.
No, not even crazy in the manufacturing plant, reliable in the manufacturing plant, crazy
in the bed.
Just a rock and roll star in the bedroom.
But maybe.
I mean, there's definitely a lot of stuff that would be repressed that would come out.
Well, there is a thing about middle-aged guys who just seem really controlled.
And they know they're...
Guys who follow strict rules.
This kind of...
I've seen it more in guys who study IT and do IT,
where they're about keeping a track of everything that they're doing.
Even guys who would calculate kilojoules in a day
and then how much exercise they're actually doing
and ensuring that they're doing that.
But then those kind of guys might be into something like tantra.
Or tantra, whatever it is.
Tantric sex.
Yeah, tantric sex.
And so then they would just be like, yeah, I got it.
But this is my other thing. This isn't tantric sex.
This is pedantic sex where everything has to be exactly right.
Otherwise, you're going to stop and start again.
Yeah.
Anyway, carry on.
No, that's cool. Or either that or they're single.
Yeah.
And they're really into like pickup artist stuff, which is kind of because like're really into like pick up artist stuff.
Which is kind of,
because like to a certain extent
pick up artist stuff.
That's the controlling thing again.
That's like trying to manufacture
the perfect encounter with a woman.
Yeah.
And so you're like,
you know,
yeah,
it's like the way that a guy
would set up a comedy set
is that you know,
it's like you've got an opener,
you've got,
you've got these bits
that kind of like,
that psychologically.
Reliable bits. Yeah, reliable bits that you just know work. Would you've got these bits that kind of like, that psychologically... Reliable bits.
Yeah, reliable bits that you just know work.
Would you try any new material?
Would you try and slip in some new material?
You have to all the time.
Yeah.
Because clearly the reason you're doing it is because you haven't had that final success
yet.
You're trying to build up to your first 20 minutes.
Yeah.
Where you can...
Yeah, where you could do like a full dinner of just controlling this conversation.
Yeah, I've got a full dinner together, guys.
It feels like the whole fun of relationship stuff would be gone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm already just annoyed with myself that, like, my life seems to be a collection of,
you know, just, like, me saying the same things that I've said to a bunch of people over and over again.
So, like, using the same bits of conversation over again or just repeating things that i've said to a bunch of people over and over again so like using
the same bits of conversation over again or just or repeating things that other people have said
rather than that happens do you do that you feel that in your life yeah yeah yeah even this i'm
pretty sure i've said it before yeah all this stuff on this podcast everything on several other
podcasts yeah that's the thing is that this is i'm doing a podcast circuit at the moment, and I'm running with a set of cereal for middle-aged men
and men who go to manufacturing conferences.
Bits.
Bits, yeah.
That's what I got going on at the moment.
But something about manufacturing...
Sorry, what were you going to say?
No, I thought of something earlier
when we were talking about the crazy in the manufacturing plant crazy in the bed thing and i just it's gone so i'm really sorry
that i stopped us to try and no that's great yeah yeah yeah that's good yeah but imagine if
everything you did like do you think everything you do could could be completely improvised like
like you must be you must repeat some conversation as well, right? Tell the same stories over and over again.
Not that much.
I do a little bit, but it was a thing.
Certainly for a lot of my life,
I was very conscious of never wanting to have the same,
say the same things more than once.
Yeah, okay.
And I think I've done it more in like the last six years.
Yeah. And I don't know why that is, if I've just it more in like the last six years. Yeah.
And I don't know why that is if I've just sort of started to run out of things to say.
But like, you know, sometimes you just go like, oh, I know this story works or this little bit thing has a laugh to it.
And so you just say it, you know, with people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A couple of times.
Yeah, because I would definitely like, I do that at like, and I'm aware of it, like, when I'm doing it,
when, let's say, there's, like, you know, a bunch of people having drinks or something like that,
what other people would call a party.
Yep.
But I'm not that rock and roll, all right?
It's a get-together.
It's a gathering.
Yeah.
It's a movie night.
I'm almost 30.
It's a gathering.
We're getting together.
Oh, gathering.
It sounds, that sounds creepy, doesn't it?
A gathering?
Yeah.
The gathering. That sounds creepy, doesn't it? A gathering? Yeah. The gathering.
It's just a bunch of people having, like, James Squire gold nail.
Yeah, but I don't know.
But when you say the gathering, though, I feel like somebody's going to be ritually sacrificed at the end of it.
Yeah, you think it's a cult thing.
Like, you get together, you have a James Squire gold nail with a couple of guys from work, and then you sacrifice somebody.
And then you sacrifice.
Who would, like, a middle-aged man sacrifice do you think?
Back to the middle-aged
men.
Right.
We know what they're
having for breakfast.
But who would they
I really like the salt
thing.
I like that it's a
salty breakfast.
And maybe there's also
a little extra packet
of salt that you can
open up and shake
on the top.
I don't know.
Like a two-minute
noodle flavoring
milkshake.
Yeah, but it's just
salt.
Yeah. And there's also an MSG one. Yeah. Just in case. Yeah. Because like, if you want to ride that dragon. Yeah. Is that a heroin reference? I don't know. Okay. That's chasing
a dragon. I think chasing a dragon. You never get on the dragon. Just chasing a dragon.
It's funny that people who are so lethargic, like heroin addicts, are chasing dragons.
They come up with the most active...
Yeah.
That is like, there's not even an activity in the regular world that would be that strenuous on your body.
Comparable.
Yeah.
Like even tennis.
Even tennis, which is strenuous.
Yeah.
And some of the fittest people do it.
They would never dare say that they were chasing a dragon out there.
There would be a lot of mountain climbing and things like that, just so you could try.
Oh, the dragons can fly.
Yeah, they can fly.
So you'd be running up hills or using those little one-man flying machines.
Ultralights.
Yeah, ultralights.
You'd be running to ultralights and flying and then jumping out of them
and parachuting down.
Yeah.
Trying to land.
Oh my god, like,
yeah, like, it would be like parkour,
but so much more extreme.
Yeah.
Sometimes when you don't have any ultralights at hand,
you would just be running up hills.
Like, just really steep hills.
That's what taking heroin is like.
That's what, maybe that's what heroin feels like.
Just slowly slurring
into and out of
boring conversations
is exactly like.
Well, but...
I think heroin addicts
have a really well-developed
sense of irony.
Yeah, yeah.
It heightens your sense of irony,
I think.
I imagine a lot of heroin addicts
are actually quite smart people.
Oh, I'm sure they are.
Like, because I feel like
a lot of writers
and things like that.
Like, I met a heroin addict one time at an open mic and he was a writer and he was really into his writing i
didn't know he was a heroin addict when i met him but he was talking about some of his writings and
he's like oh he's talking about comedy because i was telling him i was starting to come and like
some of this he's like oh look this is a really good piece of writing but i haven't really done
anything really good for so long and he's kind of like really because i've been on heroin yeah
well probably yeah but but at the same time like he was really aware of like what a good piece of
writing was and like you know and he had and he had like did you read any of his stuff uh he read
some of it out on stage um but then like later on the guy who runs the open mic was like oh
yeah that guy i don't like him coming here because he usually like reads like poetry about his friend
that died or something like that and it's just just kind of really intense and it bums everybody out.
But I don't know.
I'm not even aware of what's a good piece of writing.
I'll go, I think this might be funny.
And then I'll go out in front of people.
And if they give me a good response, I go, I knew it was a good piece of writing.
I knew it.
I'm just lucky that I'm getting better.
That's all it is.
It's just luck.
Where was I going with this?
Oh yeah, chasing the dragon But to me, that seems like it wouldn't be that pleasant an experience
Unless you were really fit
There'd be like a lot of vomiting involved
Like I think it'd be really fun once you got to that level of fitness
Oh yeah, but I mean
But for a beginner
Entry-level dragon chasing.
Maybe that's what Iron Man feels like it would be training for.
That's the closest thing.
That's pretty good, actually.
Saying that an Iron Man competition is like chasing the dragon.
Apt.
But also, dragons...
I can't imagine they'd run away from you.
I mean, they'd probably come at you and burn you to death.
Maybe they're young dragons. Ch. I mean, they'd probably come at you and burn you to death. Maybe they're young
dragons.
Young dragons.
Chasing the young,
naive,
sort of,
not set in its ways.
But I mean,
once maybe dragons
became not afraid
of people,
then sort of
the government
would step in
and have them killed
and things like that.
Like, there's sort of
a conservation program
keeping the dragons alive
because it's an amazing thing that there are dragons in the world.
And, you know, just in the name of keeping some magic in the world, we're going to keep these dragons.
But at the same time, once they get too big and too aggressive, you know, once they get to breeding age and things like that, we'll allow them to breed.
But after that, you guys are, I'm sorry, you're going to have to die because you're destroying villages.
We're going to have to get in some heroin addicts to chase you down.
To chase you down.
And kill you.
Iron men heroin addicts.
Yeah.
Slash heroin addicts.
And chase you down.
And so that's why those ones don't get chased.
They just get shot down with anti-air missiles.
Sorry, when we were talking before, I'm going to change the subject.
When we were talking before about the guys who were, like, into really boring stuff but were really crazy,
I was reminded of something.
My dad always says that guys who work in paving are crazy.
Like, off their, like, just mental.
You don't want to have anything to do with guys who work in paving
how much how much like contact has your dad had with people who work in paving
i don't know he seems he seems very confident in his views that these guys are are not well
grounded and it's something about having to get all those lines straight all the time, like, just get everything exactly right, and they just, their minds just go out of control.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sort of like, like, those mathematicians, like, in the movie Pi, the guy, like, is trying to find something to do with, you know, some mathematical problem.
Yeah.
It's like, that's eluded, you know, men for however many hundreds of years.
And the guy who was teaching him was like, he's the guy who came the closest,
but then he went crazy.
Yeah.
And then this guy's like getting really close,
and then he's starting to lose it.
And they think,
they're like,
it's the mathematics that's making you,
once you get to a certain level,
it's just,
it's too much,
and your brain can't handle it.
And just go,
like that, and you have a brain aneurysm.
But then the other thing I was thinking was,
is it possible to be a child prodigy
at something really boring?
Like paving.
That you just see it in your mind.
Yeah, yeah.
You can just see all the pavers lining up.
And there'd be some great scenes.
No, I like that.
There's a sketch idea there.
Yeah.
A child prodigy at paving.
Yeah.
Or like... He was born for this. Yeah, plastering or something like that. I like that scene. There's a sketch idea there. Yeah. A child prodigy paving. Yeah. Or like... He was born for this.
Yeah, plastering or something like that.
Yeah.
He's just like...
He just picks up the trowel and it just does this beautiful, smooth sweep.
Have you...
Have you done that before?
No, man.
I just...
I just could see it in my mind.
But you're a seven-year-old child with the voice of a young man with the mind of a middle-aged man in a jumper of a grandfather.
You've got a voice of a young man in an old man's jumper.
Yeah, I think there's a sketch idea in that way.
Child.
Prodigy. Prodigy.
Prodigy.
At paving.
At paving.
We could probably come up with something funnier than paving, though.
But what would happen?
They have him at a really young age.
They see him in kindergarten, and he's just smoothed out the sand pit.
Yeah.
And he's put all these things in it.
And they're like, oh my God,
you're going to jump a few years ahead.
And it's like,
by the time he's six,
he's already at TAFE.
He's the youngest,
youngest person ever to graduate
with a Certificate IV.
Yeah, in paving.
In paving.
And like,
he's sitting,
he's not ever accepted
by all the other, like, he's not ever accepted by all
the other,
like,
apprentices.
There'd be great
scenes on the,
on the building
side.
There's this like
eight year old
kid.
Yeah.
Who just knows
how to work a
cement mixer.
But then he'd get
really,
he'd get really
abstract.
Maybe he's the
guy who invented
crazy paving.
What's crazy paving?
Crazy paving is
like,
bricks that are all like
they've got all
they're all jagged.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
That'd be amazing.
Yeah.
It's not just his cement work.
The crazy paving story.
It's like a movie
about the guy
who invented crazy paving
like he went to another level.
Yeah.
He's the Wayne Gretzky.
What was it?
No, what's his name?
The hockey player
who did the
Wayne Gretzky?
Yeah, Wayne Gretzky.
Wayne Gretzky.
The Wayne Gretzky of paving and tiling.
Yeah.
It was like, yeah.
No, after paving couldn't satisfy him anymore,
he just nailed paving.
He was just like, yeah, I'm going to go into paving
and then mosaics.
Yeah.
And just tile, brick mosaics.
There'd be some great scenes where people are yelling at him,
like, you can't do this!
Yeah.
Like...
You're out of line, kid! scenes where people are like yelling at him like you can't do this yeah like yeah you're
you're out of line kid way out of line yeah look at this there's like the building the
building inspector's never going to approve this and he comes in he goes i can't i can't
fault him i can't no oh yeah the building inspector comes in and says, I wish I could fault it, but structurally
this is the most sound thing I've ever walked on.
It's like jazz.
Yeah.
It's like he's found a new shape.
Yeah.
A new shape of flat.
A new, um, tessellation.
A new level of perfectly flat.
Yeah.
It's called, I think the movie's called Crazy for Paving.
Or Crazy Paving.
Or...
A Beautiful Mind for Paving.
Set in Stone.
Set in Stone.
Yeah.
Broken...
Set in Cement.
Tile.
Broke Back.
Tile. Tile. Man. Man. Good at it. Man. Tintin. Tile. Broke back. Tile. Tile. Man. Good at it. Man-ton. Good. Right there. Broke back. Tile. Man-ton. Because somebody at some point, like his pavement is so smooth that
somebody slips on it. And breaks their back. And breaks their back.
Like, that's what...
I feel like someone would...
He would have an injury.
Maybe something, like, something happens.
He winds up in an injury.
He's sort of in a wheelchair or something.
Yeah.
He can't bend over to pave anymore.
And he learns to pave with his feet or...
He does it with one of those, like, rock garden sticks.
A rock garden stick?
You know those, like, things that they used to, like, rake rock gardens? Yeah, Japanese rock gardens. Yeah, and so... With a rock garden sticks? A rock garden stick? You know those things that they used to rake rock gardens?
Yeah, Japanese rock gardens.
With a rock garden stick.
Part of his recovery is he meets an Asian man.
A Buddhist.
Yeah.
Who teaches him about rock gardens.
This movie was made in the 70s.
When that's all that...
When if you wanted someone to have an epiphany,
you just gave them an Asian man.
And a rock gun.
Back when they realized that people were just all normal people.
You just had to give a man,
you'd give somebody recovery,
because first you recover your mind,
and then you'll be able to recover your spine, maybe.
And then later on he fixes his own spine. It's funny that the Asian guy who helps him just says,
maybe, at the end of all his profound statements.
When the lion leaps across the gorge,
then the gazelle will run free, maybe.
Probably.
What did you say?
Did you just say maybe?
Maybe.
Just a really uncertain philosopher. yeah um maybe yeah like a zen maybe monk
fingers crossed a maybe zen monk all right that's two yeah okay can can we put down the maybe zen
monk as a separate idea yeah monk okay yeah he's just like uncertain wisdom
yeah maybe uncertain wisdom you know how um there's like a
you always have to climb to the top of a mountain to meet like the uh the guru yeah
it'd be funny if there were, like, different levels of mountains,
just like some lower mountains where you could just go up
and you could meet less wise gurus.
Like a guy who can tell you what street the museum's on.
Yeah.
Or just some sort of pretty obvious kind of common sense.
Like, don't go out in the rain when you have a cold
For then you may become more sick
To discover who you truly are
Look at your birth certificate
Yeah
The path to wisdom lies in postgraduate study
And some life experience.
Usually it'll just come to you sort of automatically through life.
Yeah, yeah.
Learning things.
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Sometimes.
Sometimes they're also really easy.
Yeah.
Good.
Just levels of gurus.
And then there's like a guru at C-level
who he just reads,
he just repeats what was on TV.
He just reads out the green guide.
Or he just never hears you.
Yeah.
You go, what is the purpose of my existence?
He goes, sorry, what?
Just have really frustrating conversations with a sea level guru. Yeah.
And then there's like guys underground.
There's A level. They're at the top of the underground. There's A level.
They're at the top of the mountain.
There's B level.
They're like on hills.
And then there's C level.
And they're at C level.
They're at C level.
Maybe C level.
C level sensei.
And look, just so that you know, in my mind, not all the senseis or gurus are Asian.
Oh, yeah.
It's a stereotype.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a stereotype.
You know, there are wise people from all backgrounds.
Like Sony.
That's a stereotype.
Akai?
What happened to Akai?
What happened to Akai?
Yeah, where's Akai and...
Oh, there's so many.
Yamaha.
I was always amazed that Yamaha were...
Yamaha do everything.
Yeah.
Like, they're...
Whoever started the Yamaha Corporation is a freaking polymath.
Yeah.
Clarinets?
Motorbikes?
Clarinets?
I forget.
What is going on here?
There's like
The Yamaha Corporation
I mean
The CEO
Whoever's the CEO of that
Must just
Be constantly
In a state of break
Like just
Crisis
Just
What is going on
Help me
Help me
I just
I just don't want to think about anything anymore
Just
Just give me a moment.
They go through like, what a week.
What is this?
This is not a company!
Like, what does he...
Does he have like backhoes and stuff like that?
Like even like construction equipment?
I'm sure they have construction equipment.
Motorbikes and clarinets.
That should be Yamaha.
Motorbikes and clarinets.
Plus much, much more.
But, like, I think, um, oh, who was it?
There was a company recently, I think it was Pioneer or something.
They had an ad campaign that was like,
we only do great audio equipment or something like that.
Do you think that was a passive-aggressive jab at Yamaha?
At Yamaha.
Yeah, but like, yeah, like, as if like, I don't know, who thinks,
I guess only people like who are in the music,
like in the sound equipment business would feel like they need to take Yamaha down a peg.
What do these guys think they're doing?
Yeah.
Most of us would go, good on you, Yamaha, for really having a go.
Just sticking your fingers in some pies.
Yeah.
You know?
But then people are like, look, we gotta...
Like, maybe it's almost like an advertising campaign. Yeah. You know? But, and then people are like, look, we gotta, like maybe it's almost
like an advertising campaign.
Yeah.
It's just like,
we're gonna have
our product
in every household
no matter,
no matter what you do.
Yeah.
It's like,
what is that,
blenders?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We do blenders.
We do blenders now.
Yeah.
Clarinets and blenders.
Motorbikes.
We're gonna be in your kitchen.
We're gonna be in your music room.
We're gonna be,
like, we're gonna make toilet rolls. Yeah. We're going to be in your music room. We're going to be, like,
we're going to make toilet rolls.
Yeah.
Toilet roll holders.
All that shit.
People like that
are a little bit annoying,
aren't they?
People who can do everything.
Like,
you can see why
if you dedicated your life
to whatever,
yeah,
to building good speakers
and then Yamaha,
a motorbike manufacturer, comes along and they're like, yeah, yeah, we can do that.
Yeah, look.
Yeah.
You're like, what do you think you're doing?
Get out of my biz.
They're like the supermarket of one company.
They're like a one company supermarket.
Yeah.
But they're like the leader in a lot of fields.
I'd like to start a shop that just sells Yamaha products.
Just so that you can see them all there in one store.
That would be beautiful.
Yeah.
Yeah, the Yamaha.
Woodwind, aisle three.
Motorbikes, aisle four.
Mining equipment.
Mining equipment, aisles four and six.
They probably make huge manufacturing machines.
Like, how big is that corporation?
Pretty big. Yeah? Do you think so? Yeah, I reckon they're pretty big is that corporation? Pretty big.
Yeah? Do you think so?
Yeah, I reckon they're pretty big.
Yeah.
Really pretty big.
I think there's definitely a sketch in the CEO of Yamaha. It would just be a really short
one, and every time he's just shouting and just, like, having this, just a complete breakdown.
I think you'd keep coming back to him, and he's just like,
what the fuck is going on?
Like, so he's, like, is he upset with the company,
or is he upset with himself and all his ideas?
I think he's upset with the company.
Well, okay, I thought it would just be him going like,
ah, okay, now plum tarts, go, all right, oh, Jesus Christ, they just keep
coming, ah, okay, drums, we're going to make drums now, all right, skins, I'm talking snares,
I'm talking cymbals, yes, we're making cymbals, all right, get the manufacturing industry
onto it, okay, the same people who make those hubcaps, yeah, they can...
That's great.
What is a hubcap?
It's just basically a cymbal, right?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, all right.
Now, what else is like a symbol?
A plate.
Dinner plates.
Okay, get some guys making dinner plates.
Okay.
Okay, wait.
I'm going to have a cup of coffee.
Oh, this coffee's garbage.
Okay, we're making coffee from now on.
Fuck this shit.
Get Ghana on the phone.
We can serve it up in the end of a trumpet.
Yeah.
Okay, and then somebody will...
The cowbell.
We'll percolate the coffee through a trumpet.
All right, that's how we're going to do this. All right, coffee percolators. Yeah. Just, and then somebody will... The cowbell. Will percolate the coffee through a trumpet. That's how we're going to do this.
All right, coffee percolators.
Yeah.
Just never ends.
CEO of Yamaha.
Insane.
Insane.
He's just in a...
He's just chained up somewhere.
It might be too obscure.
You think so?
Do you think other people appreciate the breadth of what Yamaha's doing?
Yes, I think so.
Oh, good.
I'm glad.
The breadth?
The breadth. The breadth of the breadth of what Yamaha's doing? Yes, I think so. Oh, good. I'm glad. The breadth? The breadth.
The breadth of the breadth.
If they're making coffee...
A breadth of fresh air.
If they're making coffee,
probably the breadth of the Yamaha people
isn't amazing.
That's why you've got to hand it to tea.
It gives you a better breath than coffee.
Let's hear it for tea!
I know, but like,
I don't know if they've ever done that
with advertising.
Like, when they're advertising tea,
they go,
tea.
At least it doesn't give you coffee breath.
You know, like, yeah.
Or breath.
Like, yeah.
Or coffee breath.
Actually, yeah,
coffee probably is more likely
to also make you fat
because there's so much milk.
So much milk in coffee.
There's a lot of milk.
If you have milk in coffee.
Yeah, but there's a tiny...
You know this coffee fad that we're going through at the moment?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a bit of a fad at the moment.
Do you think it's like yo-yos and it's going to pass?
Yeah.
And then we're just going to have coffee just in the back of our cupboards.
Anyway, so...
There was something that was...
What were we talking about?
We were talking about coffee, tea.
Yeah, just like...
Yeah, some sort of a ceremony
where people acknowledge
that tea doesn't give you coffee breath.
A ceremony?
Yeah, some sort of ceremony.
Like the Oscars?
Yeah.
The Academy Awards.
And I'd like to thank tea for not giving me coffee breath.
Silly.
It is kind of funny that a guy who gets up at the awards ceremony
forgets to thank his family or anyone close to him
and then just reels up a bunch of stuff.
Oh, there's something else.
I know I'm forgetting something.
Oh, tea.
I'd like to thank tea for not giving me coffee breath,
but that's not it.
That's not it.
It's not the thing.
Wait.
Something really close to me.
Okay, wait.
Oh, my God.
Dyson?
God, I love your products.
Just the way you control air.
How do you do it?
That fan thing, which is just a circle?
Yeah.
What's that?
Vortex?
Yeah.
Whirlpool?
I think a whirlpool is water.
I'd like to thank water.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Without you.
I couldn't have tea and then I couldn't not have coffee breath.
Nobody ever thanks water in their acceptance speech at the Oscars.
People thank their parents and shit, but like, okay, let's go through the basics.
Water.
Yeah.
Oxygen.
Nutrition.
Nutrition.
Nobody ever thanks nutrition.
Yeah.
There's no way you would win an Oscar without nutrition.
Yeah, that's true.
Name one malnourished person.
Who won an Oscar?
Yeah.
Actually, there's probably been quite a few malnourished people
who've been forced to skinny themselves down.
Skinny themselves.
Skinny themselves.
Yeah.
It's funny that skinny dipping means naked.
Yeah.
Do you think more fat people skinny dip?
You mean more by volume?
Yeah.
By volume, yeah.
Do you think more?
I think by volume, more fat people skinny dip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But not by capita.
No, not per capita?
Not per capita.
Per capita.
Per capita means house?
Or like...
No, per head.
Oh, per head.
Decapitate.
Remove your capita.
Yeah.
Right.
More people are decapitated per capita Than in any other capital city
Decapitated
Decaffeinated
Capital city
Decaffeinated
No but what about capital city
It's the head
It's the head of city
Capital letter
It's at the start of the sentence
Maybe
It's capital
Capitalised
Captivate
That's when you get somebody's head.
You get somebody's head.
You captivate them.
No, their head gets pointed at you.
Yeah.
Captivated.
Captivated.
Capture?
Yep.
Same thing.
You get somebody's head.
Yeah, you get it and you point.
Wearing a cap.
Yeah.
Wearing a cap.
That's when you put something on your... Head? Head. Yeah. Yeah. That's when you put something on your head. Head. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. Warwick
capper. That's a dickhead. I don't know. Oh, shit. I'm sorry. Warwick is a funny word.
Warwick. Warwick. Well, Warwick does sound like, do you think it's named after war? Yes.
Well, Wark does sound like... Do you think it's named after war?
Yes.
Like, is the basis of Wark something to do with war?
I want to name my son after war.
Or genocide, but I think war will be easier.
Our daughter, Jenna, side.
And our son, War.
Ick.
Wick.
War Wick.
That's how it's spelt.
Is it? Yeah. I thought it was just Warick. Nah. War-wick. That's how it's spelt. Is it?
Yeah.
I thought it was just War-wick.
Nah.
War-wick.
Is a War-wick like the thing on the...
Now we're just making sounds.
Yeah, I know.
That's cool.
That's fine.
They're good sounds.
War-wick.
War-wick.
Bruns-wick.
War-wick-capper.
Hello.
War-wick-capper here.
I don't know anything about Warwick Capper.
No, he's blonde.
I knew that.
He used to play football.
I take it back.
You caught me.
You caught me out on my little lie about Warwick Capper.
I don't need to know anything about Warwick Capper.
Capper!
That's a thing that you do.
You shout at people when they...
I think they jump up on somebody's back and take a mark.
Really?
Yeah.
Which is a horrible thing to do to somebody.
Jumping up on their back when they're not expecting it. Yeah. When they're not expecting it? Yeah. Which is a horrible thing to do to somebody, jumping up on their back when they're not
expecting it.
Yeah.
When they're not expecting it.
Yeah.
But when they're expecting it...
Oh, if they're expecting it, that's great.
I mean, it's not as bad as war.
What if they're...
But if...
War, when you're expecting it, probably isn't as much shock as someone doing a kappa on
you when you aren't expecting
it.
Wait, okay.
War when you are expecting it isn't as much of a shock?
So now we're talking about the shock factor?
Yeah.
I feel like maybe war...
A large part of the trauma of war is the shock.
Is it?
Yep.
It's that shell shock.
Yep.
Yeah.
I have a feeling that expected war would still be better.
It would still be more shocking than...
I mean, it's bad when somebody jumps up on your back and you're not expecting it.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We're acknowledging what I have to say.
Yeah.
In the way that just somebody jumping up on your back is just something that's going to happen to you at some point.
I guess war is sort of like that.
When is the United Nations going to come out
and denounce people jumping up on people's backs
when they're not expecting it?
Not expecting it, yeah.
It's horrible.
That's really bad, yeah.
I don't think I could play football because of that and other reasons.
We just think that that's really mean.
Could we have a sketch with that?
Just like, and
we're adding something else to the human
rights charter. It's to not
have somebody jump up on your back
when you're not expecting it.
Because that, we think, or pulling
those little hairs on the back of your neck.
We just think those are really mean.
And we should have a
right to not have that happen to you. I think you should have a right to not have that happen to you.
I think you should have a right to not have people jump up on your back when you're not expecting it.
Yeah.
And I don't know how the AFL would deal with the fact that one of the major components of their sport is now a violation of human rights.
Yeah.
They probably wouldn't deal with it well.
They probably, first they'd be angry and they would probably defiant.
I think they'd feel defiance.
Defiance?
But I think after, like, a couple of years,
probably the game would adapt, and...
People would tap you on the shoulder
before they jump up on your back.
Just to...
Ask for consent. Eye contact. Contact. I'm going they jump up on your back. Yeah. Just, mate. Ask for consent.
Eye contact.
I'm going to jump up on your back.
You okay with that?
Yeah.
Okay.
It'd be a really slow game where everybody, like, before they touch each other in any
way in the sport.
Eye contact.
Yeah.
We good?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Let's do this. Here we go they'd stop me if you feel uncomfortable they'd run back then have a run yeah at them yeah and then leap
hopefully just in time for the ball to arrive now although let's be honest the ball's probably long
gone by this point well you just have to get a little bit more... You've got to learn to read the play a little bit better.
Read the play so well.
I have a feeling that in a couple of minutes, somebody's
going to kick the ball this way.
I'd be really impressed if I
saw that happening.
Do you think there could be a sketch?
The AFL
adjusting to the
UN coming out.
Jumping up on people's backs.
When it's unexpected.
Possibly.
I feel like we're going to have to get another couple of sketches.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Because I feel like that's maybe about a third of an idea.
I mean, there's a lot going on there.
I mean, so much could happen.
Like, this could be a really long sketch.
Yeah, could be a half-hour sitcom.
Every week in the sitcom, something different gets changed in the AFL. I would actually
love to see this written up. Like, you could only do this, you couldn't even do this really
as a, oh, maybe you could do it as a radio play. Sorry, I'm choking.
Them expecting it.
Yep.
Barack Obama, he'd be in it.
In the AFL?
Yeah, what's the matter?
Ah, I just swallowed some tea.
Some iced tea.
Went down the wrong tube.
Iced tea would be different to regular tea if you heated it up because it's got so much sugar in it.
So much sugar.
Yeah, and peach in this case.
Lemon. Is it got peach in it?
Yeah, this is a lemon one.
Lemony.
Yep.
See, this is another one.
Lipton is a Unilever brand, so this is Unilever.
They do all sorts.
Do they?
But do they do stuff that's not food?
I don't know if they do mining equipment, but their name is Unilever. Yeah, that's true.
Lever. I would, like, if this brand was Unilever iced tea, I would not buy it. Yeah? No. Lipton
though. Lipton. Unilever, that means one lever. Yeah, so do you lever. Or it means someone who left uni.
Yeah.
Dropout. College dropout or iced tea.
Uni lever?
Uni lever?
That probably
means uni lever.
Oh, God.
A little bit of fluid there in your...
Oh, I've got a bit of fluid up in the old...
air pipes. In the old tubes.
Esophagus?
Splashing around in the top of the esophagus.
Popping off the top of this esophagus.
Popping off the top of this esophagus.
Yeah, that's Flight of the Conchords.
Is it?
Yeah.
Oh, jeez.
It's a rhyme.
Oh, Jesus.
I thought you were like actually...
Oh, Jesus.
I thought you were coming up with some good rhymes there.
Off the top of your head there.
Off the top of your dome.
Eh?
Top of your dome up there.
Eh?
Oh, yeah, there.
I'm just doing a rap, freestyle rapping.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The first thing that comes to my mind, I can't do that voice at all.
Yeah?
Well, you're doing it.
You're doing it.
No, but I need you to do it, and then I can respond.
I don't have any memory for accents.
Yeah, you do.
No, I don't.
Do, like, do, like, a Russian.
I really can't do it. Just try a Russian. No, don't. Do like a Russian. I really can't do a Russian.
Just try a Russian.
Here in St. Petersburg, we are.
No, I can't.
Okay, try, wait, try Italian.
Hey, I come to your house, I cook a lasagna
So they've grown up in Australia this way?
Yes
They have
Cool, that's great
Do you think there's something in the idea of like
Trying to imagine what different people who were like
Let's say an Italian person who grew up in Russia, what their accent would sound like, who speak English.
Or like an Australian person who has lived in Iceland their whole life.
Yeah, I mean, that's a really...
But like to migrant Australian parents.
So they have that kind of like...
Their parents always speak to them with the Australian parents. So they have that kind of like... Yep. Their parents always speak to them with the Australian accent,
but then when they go and interact in non-Icelandic around Iceland,
for some reason they didn't learn Icelandic.
So they still speak English.
Yeah.
These are all people who they've migrated.
But they pick up the tonal elements of Icelandic
without ever understanding the words,
and they just apply those tonal elements to no not necessarily
what they do is
they just pick up
part of the
Iceland accent
like when they speak English
yeah that's what I was saying
no I thought you were
talking about the
elements of Icelandic
language
yeah
the tonal elements
yeah
well no not that
no not those elements
but the other elements all the other elements not the tonal ones no but. Well, no, not that. No, not those elements, but the other elements.
All the other elements.
Not the tonal ones.
No, but not of them people speaking Icelandic.
People speaking...
Icelandic.
Icelandic people speaking English.
English.
Right.
So I think it would go a little something like this.
It'd go...
Oh, yeah.
Okay, that didn't work.
I wish we could cut that bit out. I wish we could cut that bit out
I wish we could cut that bit out as well
We could stop the whole podcast and start again
You want to start again?
Yeah five ideas in
Just burn it
Just burn that motherfucker down
But do you mean burn it down like onto a CD?
Yeah
Your house is burning down
Onto a CD.
It's all right.
It's all right.
Call the fire department.
Your house is burning down onto a CD.
And they asked for the CD.
CD copy.
Call them up and let them know that it will be completely burned down onto a CD within 10 minutes.
If they want to come and put it out onto the street so that
their father who wanted the CD
can collect it. The fire department
all has the one father because they're all in the
same family. It's a small fire department.
Mr and Mrs Fire. We call
them the fire department but they're actually
the fire family. And it's a
department store. Yes.
And it's got a lot of stores
other stores in there. Yes. Fire department store. Yes. And it's got a lot of stores, other stores in there.
Yes.
Fire department store.
They also have the hospital ward store.
Of course, it's the hospital family.
Yes.
Mr and Mrs Hospital Ward, which was a hyphenated last name.
Thomas Hospital Ward, which was a hyphenated last name. Thomas Hospital Ward.
There's the Government Complaints Department Emporium
after the Government Complaints Department Family.
It's funny.
Back in the day, names like Smith and Taylor and stuff
came from your profession.
That we don't have that anymore we're not still coming up with names based on
people's professions yeah like your surname um there's no families who's like um a business
management consultant yeah james and jeff business management consultant we're not
business management consultants my grandfather was a business management consultant we We're not business management consultants. My grandfather was a business management consultant. We just took his surname. I actually work in aquatic
architecture.
Yeah. I'm currently seeing a girl, a Marika sandwich artist. No, no, no. She's not a sandwich
artist.
No, no, no.
Actually, she's a professional pogo sticker.
And we're probably going to...
Call our kids, Sam and William.
Professional pogo sticker hyphen...
Management consultant.
Management consultant.
Underwater architect.
Well, we're just going to keep my grandfather's name.
Yeah, yeah.
But take my wife's profession.
Profession.
Professional pogo sticker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's an idea.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, I'm going to write that down.
How do you set that up?
I think you'd maybe have it occurring a child's just been born
and they're talking to the registry office.
Yeah, there could be a lot of...
We could just explain the concept.
Just explain the concept.
Just play this.
That's explaining the concept.
I mean, it's kind of like...
It's not really necessary that we have...
That we keep family names.
No, not at all.
Like, it's kind of just a, it's a bit of a tradition in our family.
Oh, yeah.
To just keep the family name.
This is the thing that I think is really funny, right?
Families who talk about things that they do in their family as if it's, oh, it's just a little tradition in our family, but it's something that everyone does.
So they're like, oh, yeah, we really just like to have a knife and fork when we eat our food. It's just a little thing in our family, but it's something that everyone does. So they're like, oh yeah, we really just like to have a knife and fork when we eat our food. It's just a little thing
in our family. Yeah, it's a bit of a tradition. Oh, welcome to the Smith house, eh? Yeah,
we like to sit on chairs. It's just this thing that we do. We sort of have mashed potato
with our sausages. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of a... It goes back to my father's father and his father's father.
Yeah, yeah.
I guess we've always done it.
A bit crazy, but there you go.
Our children...
We actually send our children to school,
so we're a bit alternative that way.
We like to have them educated in the mainstream system.
That's just, you know, a lot of people disagree with it,
but we think it's the right choice for them.
For them.
Yeah.
Our children.
So we've just got to do what we feel is right.
Yeah.
We have a, how about this?
Okay.
A lot of families have pets, but we actually have a dog.
Yes. And we keep him have a dog. Yes.
And we keep him on the ground.
Yeah.
And we sometimes let him into the house.
Oh.
Yeah.
So I'm guessing you're a white family.
Is that a thing?
Oh, I think I...
Where did I see that?
I think I saw somebody doing jokes about apparently...
I might have seen it on MyChonny, which is awful.
But complaining about apparently we let...
This is a stereotype about white people.
We let pets into the house and that's a filthy thing.
But that's actually not true.
Anyway, it's not a...
Forget it.
I just...
When I was in Taiwan, people had their dogs in the house.
Yeah.
It's not a thing.
So I don't know what the fuck... It's a really poorly Forget it. I just... When I was in Taiwan, people had their dogs in the house. Yeah. It's not a thing, so I don't know what the fuck.
It's a really poorly structured
white people thing.
Yeah, white people bit there.
Things...
Okay, can we make a website
called Things White People Like?
There is a thing called...
Yeah, I know.
I'm riffing on that idea.
But it's just...
Like, whatever we put up there,
it'd just be like,
that's got nothing to do with white people.
With being white people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nutrition.
Yeah.
I've said nutrition already, hasn't I?
Yeah, yeah.
Pipework.
Pipework.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Going, sometimes taking public transport.
Yeah, going to the shops.
Yeah.
Correcting their vision.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a thing yeah white people white people love love closed toed shoes yeah houses made out
of wood and or cement yeah architectural projects. White people. White people. But I wonder if you could get
that to take off. It probably already is a thing, let's be honest. That's the sort of
obvious idea that some dickheads probably already had. No, but basically it's... But
you're playing on the idea of, of stereotypes and then you're
just going, yeah, guys, we're all the same.
Yeah.
That's what you're saying.
But I imagine that would just get boring to keep coming up with that shit.
And especially like doing parody, like parodying things ultimately is a dead end, right?
Isn't it?
You think so?
Yeah, I think so.
Especially if you're parodying something really specific.
Like, because you're only reactive to what they're doing.
I don't know how creative it is.
But, I mean, the thing with parody is that you can be parodying many things at the same time.
Yeah?
Like, I think that that's what Tim and Eric do.
They parody lots of stuff.
They're making fun of fame and Hollywood,
and they're making fun of, at the same time,
they're making fun of 80s educational videos.
Yeah, right.
Or kind of like business infotainment.
Yep.
Public access TV.
Yeah, no, you're right.
So it's not necessarily a dead end.
You can keep spreading your...
I said you're right.
Your parody net.
Your parody net, but then also include other types of comedy in there.
Look, we've got six ideas here.
Should we just wrap it up?
Okay, and also parodying fishermen.
Oh.
I've got a net.
Oh. Oh, look.
I'm just going to stick my hook into this bit of bait.
Oh, this fluid here.
Hope I get a small animal on the end of the hook.
Hey.
Oh.
Oh.
One is chomping on it.
He's chomping on the end of the string.
I imagine it's a guy in just an aquarium,
like one of those tiny fish balls like that,
and he catches one and he goes,
Oh, no, I've overfished it.
Oh.
Oh.
Better kiss it and throw it back,
and then he misses the ball.
Really clumsy satire on just professions yeah oh look i'm designing a building oh probably
it's going to design something that somebody's going to build later on oh look i'm going to put
a door in the front yeah oh i hope i don't stuff up this door. Yeah, I hope everybody thinks I'm really original.
Yeah.
I'm going to use right angles.
I'm going to follow the building code.
Is that even satire?
Or is that just saying things?
What they do.
What they do.
With a motor voice.
But a lot of the time, satire is that.
It's just saying what people do.
time like satire is that like it's say just saying what people do right because like a builder would never um an architect would never say i'm going to draw a door now right so they just draw the
door and now we're just saying what they do but a politician if you're satirizing a politician
you just say oh now i'm going to make things unequal for people or you do it in a slightly
more subtle way maybe but you just make explicit whatever hypocrisy or whatever they're actually doing.
So, yeah, in effect, I think that's a perfectly valid way to satirise architects and fishermen.
Satirise.
I don't know how to write satirise.
Satirise.
S-A-T-I-R-I-S-E.
Regular jobs.
Yeah.
All right.
That's what we got for this episode.
Thanks.
Cereal for middle-aged men.
Child prodigy at paving.
There's also the monk in maybe uncertain wisdom.
CEO of Yamaha.
AFL adapting to the UN banning jumping on people's backs without them expecting it.
People's last names them expecting it.
People's last names that come from professions, but now.
Professional pogo sticker, for example.
Yep.
And then satirizing regular jobs by just saying,
I'm doing this now.
Thanks. See you later.
See ya.
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