Two In The Think Tank - 127 - "WI-FRY"

Episode Date: April 17, 2018

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That's right, Alistair. What's the biggest thing you've ever carried on the roof of your car, would you say? Let's see. The owner of the vehicle? On the roof of the car? Yeah, you know, sealing a car and he... I leapt aboard.

He leapt on board. You do, were you performing some kind of a car jacking? Or was it just a regular car boasting? And it is a performance. Oh, let me tell you. No, I don't think I've ever really put things on my car. No, see, this is what's different about you and me. I was there.

I regard the car as a beast of burden to be loaded up and driven across great distances, you know, for me and my semi-nomadic family. And you may have noticed me. You may have noticed me. That's the first point. But also, I don't love being much of a burden on other people, or even my car, but I do make one exception for you. You allow me to be a burden on your car?

No, I allow you to be my burden. I mean, I allow you to be my beast of burden. I allow myself to be a burden on you. I mean, is there some sort of version of a nomadic lifestyle that we can come up with where people stay in the same place? Yeah, but it's the world that moves around. Well, I was thinking something along those lines, maybe they just move all of their possessions to different locations, you know. Sort of like a homeless person. Mmm. And of like with a trolley. No, no, not a homeless person. Well, I'm not.

Can't be up with the idea of a homeless person. If you, you stay where you are, but you move your house around. All right. I don't know how you do that without you. Look, forget it. I mean, the person, the look. The person who came up with the idea of homeless people initially came up with it for good, but then it was used to hurt people? Yeah, I see. They're misusing. Initially, I was trying to find to create a person who wasn't tethered down by possessions and society and they could just drift. Truly free, truly free like a.

But then they went and became drifters. This is without holes. Look, maybe, you know, I suppose you could probably blame me in some way that maybe it's looked better in theory when I said it with a smiling face rather than the way that you're doing it with a sad look on your face. The frown. And with a frown and also the burden of knowledge of reality. See, I didn't have that.

Okay, but what about this? It's sort of the same thing, but it's set in the present day. And it's a startup company that is trying to disrupt the idea of homelessness. So maybe they're packaging homelessness as a thing for the modern digital age. Not a digital nomad, digital homeless and whether or not there's an app that allows you to go to various street corners and camp out or. Yeah, or it's like maybe it's like a,

what's that one person tent tent? A swag, yeah. It's like a, they're mobilizing, like a sort of an armored swag that you can just sleep at any place on the road with. Yeah, right. Like that. That's so heavy that cops, like it actually gets anchored to the ground.

Cops, cops can't get you. They can't get in, they can't do nothing. They would just have to stand there until you get out. Yeah, but you can stay in there for days. Yeah, there's a toilet, there's supplies and things like that. But then they find that it's actually just kind of like, you know, hipsters and stuff like that that end up using it. And then we're taking up a lot of the goods inner city street space.

Yeah, so we're gentrifying like the space under bridges. Yeah. Look, this is probably a thing that is genuinely happening. Sure. But hey, that doesn't mean we can't play it for comedy. Yeah. Right. Yeah, I like this a lot, right?

It's, so the way you were suggesting it's just there and it sounded like this armored swag, the immovable armored swag was something that had been made for for the homeless that was then being misused by by the I think that's I think that's quite a possibility thing. They quite quite a possibility that they were maybe they initially marketed as something for the homeless. But then, you know, maybe like opportunity shops, the middle class sort of artsy types found out, maybe even the Silicon Valley types found that you could actually just stay

really close to your office, and you don't have to commute, you get two and a half hours back from your life. You also don't have to pay rent. I think this is great and they notice that a lot of the prime real estate is actually occupied by the homeless. If you think about it, they've got a lot of going for them. They've got it made. That should be monetized or there's potential there for this to be. am I much louder than you? No, we're both exactly the same volume. Great. That's what I like about us. Yeah, it's the Galitarian We're like to we're like to homeless guys in an e swag and we're gonna have to work on a better name swagger Swaggy swaggy. I mean swagger's got a kind of a swagger to it. Is it?

Swaggy Swaggy. I mean Swagger's got a kind of a Swagger to it. It's a W-A-G. Just Yeah, maybe capital R or how about this one? It's Swagger. This is a slightly different product. This is a product on the road. It's called Swagger, but it's written with three Rs at the end. And they stand for reading, writing, and arithmetic. Right. And it's a it's like a homeless school. Wow. Yeah. But you can still do like you could do like Adobe Adobe, you know like workshops and things like that. I mean Is it it does feel cruel but the idea of teaching those kinds of like useless skills to the homeless is Is interesting to me

Well, I mean those are genuinely not useless skills because they have value in their form. Sure. They could turn that into. Sure. No, you're right. But I think that what I, the way I see it is like, those skills are useful in a certain context, in a context that is so far removed from life on the streets, that like there's a huge disconnect between what your situation is, your level of crisis, and what you need to help you through the next couple of days. And this sort of administrative skill, or whatever it is, that is not useful to you in the moment. And I think like a charity that is set up to teach,

yeah, you know, I don't know what it would be, but like team building or something to people in war-torn Africa or, you know, whatever we make it. Yeah. A skill that is such a first world fabricated solution. And then to try and transplant that. Well, they couldn't possibly use team building in Africa. Certainly not water on Africa. Oh, water.

What about the water on situation makes you think that people need to come together? Come on. I mean, really coming together is what created this problem. Yes. But people coming together into militia. But then I might have been because they didn't do a team building exercise. They did a militia building exercise. Yeah. Which involved just going from town to town collecting people to join your militia. And then that's the flip side of it I've supposed that we have a sketch which involves people doing a team building exercise for corporate elites which involves them forming a militia. You know like like paintballing but they don't have guns.

They've got machetes and bats. Paint machetes, they're paint machetes. Basically, it's a long brush. But could there be, could it be maybe like a, it's a militia building exercise for, for like corporate people? Yes. And they teach them to work together

and then go from skyscrapers to skyscraper and just destroying their enemies and collecting their children and getting them to join their war. Yeah. And to fight other. Yes. How are they teaching these kids to,

like how are they taking over? Internships. They're offering them an internship. Child internships. How are they teaching these kids to like how are they taking over internships? They're offering them an internship child internships. Great. And how are they how are they destroying the other companies? With machetes. With machetes? Well, what's the what's the financial services equivalent of machete? I don't know like short selling or something like that. It's getting a bit abstract. We're in that very much bleeding edge where we're trying to perform the pivot here on the stair of the comedy idea. And we're looking for the parallels and it's difficult.

It's also difficult to do it without transgressing into the area of that famous carry-gillian sketch that's at the start of meeting a blonde. Well that's why I'm trying to separate it from them having machetes and stuff, because in that I guess they just kind of actually attack people physically. Yeah, you're right. And so, but we'd have to still be something in which you need to go into the building for. Hmm, well I mean then some kind of digital attack, right? Some sort of, what do you call that form of hacking

that's like behavioral or this face to face? Is it like social hacking or something? These people who sell themselves as social hackers, behavioral hacker? I don't know, it's this idea that you can, you know, the best way to access the data of a company isn't by trying to go through their firewalls or whatever to get into their servers. It's the shop at the front door and say hi, I'm here to, there's something with the

death guy in 54B told me I've got to come and delete some of the maintenance files from the server log in room 12. Yeah right. And then they just let you in and then you go in and you take it out on a USB. So that's nice. Yeah. That's really good. I think I could do that. Yeah. I mean I crumble under any sign of pressure. Would there be any pressure in this? But I think I could excuse myself by going to the bathroom and then just disappear But what about if they went in there and they just took people's jobs? So they went in and they and they just basically either Convince people or just through bullying yeah through bullying they took their jobs

And then they just kept collecting all these jobs. And probably due to job security, you would probably get, like in first of all, you'd have to go into the part where they, human resources and get them to transfer the money into your accounts, you gotta change, make that account change. But then, due to a lot of job security, you could probably have these jobs for a while before you would get fired

and not get paid anymore. I think that there's definitely something in that. But I'm now picturing this as just a person who's just like a real alpha, like a bit of a bully, whatever it is, and they get into a company. They're almost like a wasp that has found its way into a bee hive because apparently the bees once they're in, once the wasp is inside the hive, the bees don't even really register it. They don't know what to do and the bee just goes, the wasp just goes place to place, just destroying it, eating their young and stealing their honey and stuff.

Did they kill the bees or they had bees? They killed the bees and you know, but once it's in the hive, the bees don't really see it as being a problem. And then I like this person who's found their way into the company who then just, you know, goes around pushing people out of their seats, taking spots in meetings, you know, aggressively common-deering. Yeah, maybe stealing all of their identities

and taking their clothes. Yeah. What if you just, every time you took somebody's job, you put on their layer of clothes. Yeah, I think that's great. And you just get, so they get larger and larger as time goes by and they're almost wearing like skins of people that they've conquered. Maybe like all the ties or either kind of, some of them around his neck, some of them around his head, he's got some on his arms.

Now, I'm interested in the point of view of the other people in the company to this person. How do you think they react? Well, I guess some of them they could go cower in the tea room. I like it. And I like that there's no question of them really calling security necessarily. Like maybe because security is also just led bullied or something or maybe it just doesn't come up because it's just a convenient part of the reality for us to achieve our scheme. I mean most, you know, most companies don't have security. Yeah.

Yeah. That's true. And he's not hurting anyway. He's just taking their jobs. On technical leaders, actually, nothing that we can do with the accordance with the law. Yeah, that's good. We can't fire him because he's not technically an employee.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he has all your jobs. He's a blue ball. Yeah. Look, I'm gonna write down. I think this is really funny. Yeah, guy who comes in just... I think it's a great short film, Alan.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know how many parts you see it being. I see it being at least four. What? Four short films. Four short films. Why would you just make one long film? Oh, I don't know. I don't know.

You're usually the one who answers those kinds of questions. It's a bizarre, barely justified way of your own internal devising. Oh. I see him as like a virus or like a cancer cell inside the company who just can't be gotten rid of. Yeah, no, I like that. And then maybe eventually they call someone in who just beats him to death with a bat. I just like the shieh for who tell it. Like they get on the phone after calling the police.

And then they go, con, yeah, man. It's happening again. It's exactly what I was going to say. One more my wife. And he goes to just in the corner next to the door There's like one of those umbrella tubes, you know like just like where people keep the umbrellas But one of the things is an a baseball that he grabs it gets into his car and tries down comes in Yeah, and that's what it's like when you get a pest control person in for like a wasp infestation in your house They just come and they just kill them.

You know, we're we're worried. And you know, like, you know, you'll see a couple of wasp and you're trying to shoot them outside or something like that. But when you call an expert in, they're not doing any chewing. And I'm sure they're not chewing. I sure though. You sure? Yeah. You're sure. I shoot though you shoot yeah you're sure I

I told you I heard flies It's very easy to heard flies now heard I G.R.D. Yeah, not hurt no heard heard H.G.R.D. Yeah, like if you put your arms out. Yes, I think you're a big fly I think you're Jesus I think you're a big fly. I think you're Jesus. They looked as a chance that they're responding to something, you know, they're primitive fly-mind, things that they've encountered Christ, and that they just got to get away from it, possibly because they're aligned with the devil.

Now that huge statue above Rio de Janeiro on that mountain top, Is that Jesus or is that just a man trying to get a fly out of his living room? Yeah, look, whatever whoever it is. Yeah, and we don't have a lot of ideas on it. We have no way of knowing. Science doesn't know. Religion marks. Science probably hasn't found out who the stash is. You know? Through experimentation. Some gunk on my phone, anyway. Oh no. I'll just put it back in the gunk that way I'm not spreading the gunk. It's interesting too, like, how would science

go about establishing who did that sculpture or who that was the sculpture of? Like what would be the scientific method for resolving a question of authorship? Something like that. Well, I suppose they would probably look at like I mean, I think it's actually kind of... But you need to do an experiment, wouldn't you? Maybe. I mean, I guess like look actually- But you need to do an experiment, wouldn't you? Maybe, I mean, I guess like, look, this is my real answer first. Okay, right. Which would be you would look at the literature

and then you would find connections between the documents, the names and the documents, and possibly DNA evidence that you could find that is somehow linked to the person. Oh, to DNA, oh, that got quite scientific To DNA, oh, they've got quite scientific. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, great. Like to actually... If you're referring to documents, why do you even need to bring DNA into it?

Why can't you just look at the documents and look at some other documents? Well, because then you could prove that the name on the thing is linked to the person, or the person whose name in the documents is somehow linked through some kind of scientific. Sure, but people don't have their name written in it, they and I, right? No, but you could find the person's DNA through stuff that they may, you know, maybe they dropped a hair into a proposal or something or, or maybe there's somebody from their bloodline that's still around. Yeah. somebody from their bloodline that's still around. Yeah.

Yeah. Um, this is the, I, I, I, it feels like a callback something from a long time ago, but the idea of the people just totally overusing science in like some scientific police procedural. We're like, the science is involved at every possible step of the way. Like, to like remove any amount of insert uncertainty. I guess, yes. So like, I'm not sure exactly what that would be, but like, you know, when you go to somebody's house,

right, how do you know that this is their house? How do you know that that number on the front is the right number, you know, on the door, right? When you know that that number on the front is the right number? Yeah. You know, on the door. Right, when you've got to look at the number next to that one, and the number next to that one, and then you infer based on the patent. You find, you try to find old photos of this house, multiple sources, maybe some that are not taken from just the people that are there, but maybe from like Google Maps, but then also, you know, the things like that. But then you're also, um, and then you do like a 3D rendering and you come up with a computer algorithm that based on the previous two numbers

predicts what the next number is going to be. And then you compare that to reality. And maybe you go to the council where they would have that kind of map, but say What numbers were where? Maybe you could ask Previous postman. I mean, that's not very scientific, but then you could you could ask the mother in MRIs I think yeah, no, I think that's I think I think that's great asking the mother in MRI and you show them different numbers And you see how their brain response to see whether or not their perception of what is the number 73 is the same as your perception of what is the number 73. And when they say something, is that also what they're picturing in their head?

What is this show? It's now feeling to me like it's almost like one of those, um, who do you think you are, kind of genealogy kinds of shows, where we literally, we never get past like, we just keep breaking it down and breaking it down and breaking it down, but I want to be sure, you know, and they keep saying, but I want to be sure. And that's why I'm doing this. And then, you know, and then maybe they do some experiments with mice and getting mice to deliver mail for a certain period of time

and see whether or not they respond to the triggers of different numbers. So, okay, so it's like, who do you think you are? But they don't get past the very first question or the? Yeah, like I've come to visit such and such at this number in this street to find out more. But how do I know? But I want to be sure. And, you know, so, and that's when they start doing experiments about actually just the

number on the door of the street and, you know, start torturing members of the family of the postman. Yeah. But then also obviously they would also have to find do research to confirm that doing torture gets valid information. Right, sure, but if torture doesn't get valid information out, then maybe you can use it to prove the opposite.

That's right. So anything they say, you know, is not true. It's not true. And then they just get a car with a baseball bat. Comes in. Alright, so I write this down. I think so. Yeah, what is this called?

What would this be called? I think it's like the absurd detail research TV show. Right? Or like it's because they're trying, I guess they're trying to break it down ultimately to like first principles. At the end, it feels like they would get to the point where like, you know, Bertrand Russell got to when he wrote a whole book, just trying to prove that one plus one equals one. You know? Well, imagine if he had proven that one plus one equaled one. had proven that one plus one equaled one. Mm. I think he did.

Oh, sorry, one plus fuck. What did I say? I said one plus one equals one. I think I've just heard. I think your mic might be turned the wrong way. Oh, I think your mic. No, but because when you spoke on the other side just then, you...

OK. No, but I meant like the other side, I think. Try to... Like that? Yeah. Okay. Did you notice that? I've been looking at the levels here and they look fine to me, so...

Okay. Well, I was just letting you know that when you spoke that way, you come across the same level as me in my ears. That's good. That we should be at the same level, LSD. Just... that's good that we should be at the same level LSD. Um. Just how much we're having to control how upset you're getting about the Z- I'm not upset at all. I'm genuinely not upset. Neither am I.

Right, LSD. It's really nice to have you here at this level on my level. Um. I think from what I heard from somebody. at this level on my level. I think from what I heard from somebody, yes, he didn't actually end up proving that one plus one equal to really. I think there was a floor in it. Was there a floor in it in some way? I'm not sure that he, it's Bertrand Russell's theory of sets or something like that.

Right. But then it was incomplete. Is that right? I'm not sure Andy. But then it was incomplete. Is that right? I'm not sure, Andy. But you heard from somebody. I just heard from somebody that he may not have actually been able to logically, completely prove that one plus one equal to. What about one plus one equals one?

Did he get anywhere with that? I'll have to ask the person. Yeah, right. First, obviously, I have to remember who the person was. And then we'll have to prove that they are actually them. Yeah. You know, interrogate the concept of memory, which God knows we've done a few sketches about that

on this show. Yeah. But then obviously usually, As far as I recall, usually I'll say, I'll say, all right, well, let's get the concept of memory up on the thing. On the witness stand. And then you'll be like, come on mate,

we need to simplify this so that it's actually filmable. And then we have a really bad time trying to get to the bottom of what that would look like. What, which one yours or mine? Both of them probably. Well, I think it would be definitely be complicated to get the concept of memory. What it would look like.

I think I would represent it. And, you know, tell me what your own thing is. I mean, for sure, I think this is already bold casting. Yeah. Oh, no, no, I didn't say, oh, I would represent it. I'm not saying I'm mean. You didn't say that. Oh, yeah.

I'm not gonna play, I think I could pull off a memory. I could do memory. The concept of memory. The concept of memory. And Benedict Cumberbatch, I reckon he could do the concept of memory as well. Oh, maybe. I don't know. I think he's getting overexposed.

That's true. I think you'll be like, oh, who's that? Is that the guy who invented the computer? You know who'd be great to get for that, the role of the concept of memory. Like that guy who was in Groundhog Day, who's sort of like in everything, a bit part in everything. Because he's one, you're like, I remember him from somewhere, and be perfect. He was being in something.

Yeah, look, I think that's good casting in terms of if we're going to cast it. How you've of mine? That beaverman, Ned. Stravinovsky? Yeah, that's it. No. I think, yeah, look, I think that guy has a podcast and I haven't... Really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like a really great storyteller I heard him on Mark Marren talked about how he almost broke his neck or his neck kind of was broken But it was like hell in place and then he went that's how you want your broken neck to be well He didn't realize until much later that it had been broken the whole time. Oh shit. I don't sort of rehealed reformed Now I think just kind of just it was Nothing, just kind of just barely. It was literally just sitting there. Just barely holding together, I guess. Just balancing.

Just the weight of his head, just pushing down on the broken nub of spine. Spinal nub. Anyway, what was I saying? Oh, this is how I'd represent the concept of memory. Right. Uh, is, is I'd have sort of a flickering sort of cloud of images. Yeah.

You know, and, and, and, and sort of sounds. Mm-hmm. And I don't know if you're going to have a clad flickering cloud of sounds. That's kind of what I was thinking. Flickering soundflags. I don't even think it needs to be in a humanoid shape. Yeah, no, I, I agree. I wonder.

But do you see cloud like stormy cloud? Do you see? I see a bit of storm cloud. Yeah, I see a bit of storm cloud. Great. But I also think it should be sepia toned. Because we know that things in the past were sepia toned.

And the memory concerns things in the past, Alice did. That's true. But not sometimes not that far in the past. No, but I feel like. Okay, that would be a severe. That's how I would maybe you could show an old person's long-term memory. Okay, you're right.

But what about the short-term memory? Do you think there would be more like numbers and... I think it would look like a nice face. More word, some kind of a name. Just scrolling. I would be more like numbers and... I think it would just look like a face-based and crumbling, just scrolling. Maybe a few faces. Wouldn't be as many like long videos. I think all of my long-term memory

is just pretty much things that I've seen videos or photographs of. You know, I don't actually recall anything. What's your youngest memory? Is that a really sad one? No, look, I don't know. I mean, really the one that the earliest memory that I have any clarity on, I think it's from about grade two or three, maybe, of being embarrassed in the library. I think I remember getting sent in preschool right before kindergarten, right

before year one, being sent to sit outside the principal's office because my fly was down and I was like, hey, those like showing people look my fly is down, hey. So you were showing them your genitals because you still had underpants on them. Yes, a little underpants. How about this? Underpants with a zipper down the front. Yeah, right. So I've never seen that.

I've never seen zipper on underpants. I think I've seen it on like, maybe kind of like leather underpants that people would use instead of in the pseudo-masochistic lifestyle. Yeah, right. Yeah. Because what I like about it is the sort of the risk--masochistic lifestyle. Yeah, right. Yeah. Because what I like about it is the sort of the risk-taking element of having the teeth of the zipper right there next to your exposed genitals. Sure.

I mean, you never see underwear with a button fly. No. Yeah. Or Velcro. Just the Velcro that crosses in the middle there, like snow pens. I just think people probably would recoil instinctively from having such a ripping sound associated so closely with their genitals, which feel very often like the part of the body most at risk of being ripped in some way. Really? What about the eyelid?

The eyelid and the ear, the ear lobe, I suppose. Oh the ear, no I think the lobe is safe. I reckon it's the area between the lobe and the head. What are you talking about? The lobe is safe. The area between, oh, are you mean the join? Yeah, the join. But the lobe join. Lobe join. Yeah. But I mean, you wouldn't call a weld the piece of metal. I mean, it depends on the kind of weld. The nostril, I suppose. Oh, the nostril. There's a big

risk. What if you're walking past like a drum kit and you're in the nostril gets hooked on the high hat stem And then there's the lip you know the corner of the mouth. Oh, yeah, that gets caught. I guess also on the top of a high hat stem Yeah, or you know, you a pinch, you could be hook on maybe like on the symbol stand, maybe like on that butterfly nut that's holding the top thing on. Butterfly nut. Yeah, having a good look at that, that zilge and symbol. Yeah, it's such a distracting symbol, right? Just trying to raid the zed and the d or whatever.

Yeah. What is that font? J, I think there's a J in there. And you get caught up in it. All up. Do you think that like before we had interesting phones, right, and people were always looking down at phones and getting distracted and walking and pumping into people and walking out into traffic?

Do you think that there was ever like a push to design less interesting footpaths so that people weren't like distracted looking at the fascinating ground and then they would get you know walk out and traffic like I remember crazy paving remember crazy paving. That's like those jaggedy bricks that were big I think in like the 80s they kind of look like a little zigzag, and they slopped together, and they used to make paving out of them. Well, I didn't know why they would call them crazy paving.

They seem very structured- Oh, no, no, they're crazy. Yeah. They're crazy. Well, what about this? What about instead of making them either crazy or boring? Yes. What if you just sort of covered them in something, like stuff that was really disgusting

that people didn't wanna look at? That's great. So it'd make people keep their gaze up high. Yes. You know? So like something like, you know. What about some uncomfortable home truths? Uncomfortable home truths, absolutely.

I just think maybe like some real like medical really. I've been saying we've got that we've got that flesh-eating ulcer. Yeah, for those who are not in Australia or in Victoria, in Australia, we're currently in the epidemic. A flesh-eating ulcer. They're starting to say that maybe it's being transmitted through possums or mosquitoes. Oh, look at me, that's quite a right. I haven't heard that. Well, that's what I saw. I barely read the article, but I think I read it. It was in the sort of... There's both things that I'm exposed to.

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I assumed there was some sort of, you know, risky lifestyle choices people were making about. I don't know, skateboarding and sewer pipes or something. I think you're making risky lifestyle choices if you're coming into contact with possums all the time. What are you doing with your life? We're giving them a cuddle. Possums are not your friends. No, they're not.

No. That is absolutely true. They scratch you and then suddenly this flesh eating virus is getting into you. Yeah, you're like, no, we're not fair enough. I think there's gotta be something in this, in this most terrible part of your body. Not terrible.

What, I think L-E. I think L-E. I mean terrible. Oh, terrible. Yeah, most terrible T-E-A-R. A-B-L-A. Yeah, well, yeah, no, I think there's something. But also disgusting paving, I forgot.

Disgusting paving, I think, is something like, you know, because people are looking down at their phones, we're trying to get people to raise their gaze, right? And the way we're going to do those, we're going to make the ground really unpleasant. Look at, I realize people are mostly focused on their phones, but if there's something in the background, your eye is always drawn to it, I think. So, yeah, we're going to make the ground unpleasant. So, what are you thinking here? Like, so, um... I like, I think, you know, I think photographs of people where you can clearly see up their nostrils and there's a bit of snot in there or something, you know, that's...

Sure, I guess that could be like around primary schools. Those would be some of the best things to have. Oh, no, kids would like that though. Sure, I guess that could be around primary schools. Those would be some of the best things to have. Oh, no, kids would like that though. Kids find that kind of gross stuff really fascinating, I think. But I think for me personally, I do not like to see that kind of thing. Do you not find that an issue at your? No, but I was saying it was a bit tame, you know?

Oh, but you think that's tame. Oh, yeah. Oh, Elastir. I'd really gone in hard. I thought I'd gone with my, I was bringing my big mother of all bombs. I mean, I'm talking like, you know, sort of flesh holes with, with pus. That is, that's exactly what I described, a nostril with snot in it.

It's a flesh hole with pus. Sure, okay. You're just talking, you're just repeating it back to me last year. Come on Andy, you know the puss and snout are two different things. Two totally different things. And I didn't mention it in my sentence, but the flesh holes that I meant, they're not normally there. Oh, okay. At normal flesh holes. Yeah, so I'm talking.

What in use, why didn't you say? And look, sometimes they could be on the tops of lumps, but I realized that still sounds like a nose. Yeah. All right, nostrils on the top, that'd be unpleasant. There you go. But you probably would really look at that. You know, it'd really be unpleasant. Yes.

About as nostrils on top of the nose, because then when it rains, you get water in your nose, collecting in your nose. That would suck. Although that, but if you could somehow accumulate that water and drink it, maybe that would be good. Do you think there's a way that we could get our nose to be more like an elephant's trunk? I think, you know, thousands of years of millions of people have been living. There's the possibility, like essentially the only thing stopping us from using our noses

like a trunk is that there's no movable muscle in there. Yeah, all right. There's that one that you can wiggle it like. That feels more like your face is moving and your nose is coming along for the ride, I reckon. Oh, it's like, it's mostly like it's cheek muscles. You've got a lot going on there, I'll say. You can really get some action with that bad boy.

Yeah, thank you. One of the most pre-handsile noses I've ever seen. That's pre-hensile, man. Pre-hensile means there's got muscles in it and you can move it like an elephant. But that's before hensile. Yeah. So hensile means that you can't move something.

I don't know, Elis. Post, is there a post-hensile? Oh, yep. All right, is that something that is... Do you have any follow-up questions? Is that mean that it's something that is absolutely... Used to be able to move in as... It's moved so much, it's just floppy.

Like, if you break your spine, do you become post-handsome? You're post-handsome, yep. If you break your nose. Post-handsome, please, jick. All right, what the fuck were we talking about? Um, disgusting gaming? Oh my god. I feel like the last 30 minutes has been

I mean, tense garbage. Disgusting pain. That's what we're dealing in here. Yeah, you're right. Intense garbage there. Right, that damn. No, okay. I mean, other things like,

I mean, there's this stuff that goes viral online of like somebody who has opened, you know, the the Inside of a can of my low has theirs that that plastic that little bit of metal foil the foil cut them open Cut themself, no, I'm just talking about people who have just opened it badly have just like sort of torn it in half and then just scooped out Not really, you know, because you've got to take it all out your you peel it all out, it's kind of satisfying to do it right, but if people don't do that kind of stuff right, and that goes viral, so that just copy stuff that's

gone viral. Stuff that's gone viral, right? We're just like, stuff that's gone down. But put that in the disgusting paving. Yeah, it's because it's disturbing to people. They don't want to see it. But it's too interesting. You want something that has like a... So do you want stuff that's boring? Is that what you're building? You need stuff that's gonna draw the eye, that's gonna attract people away from their phones, right? And then disturb them enough

that they don't want to continue looking at it. Sure, yeah. But I think maybe also it's stuff that even seeing it slightly in your periphery makes you go. Oh! You can't look any further. periphery makes you go. Oh! Can't look any further. Yeah, you're right. Oh my god.

Well, I definitely get that from those old ads for quitting smoking where they'd be like cutting them along and squeezing past out of it. They could have a lot of that stuff. All of it, and maybe some of the injuries that people got from walking around on pavement by looking down on their phone. That's good. There was a series of ads which I think were either road safety or motorbike safety or something

which were like mangled fingers just horribly smashed up hands and they were on billboards. Why? Because it was to like make you think about safety or I don't know, but it was. For dry is like that happen to people in car accidents? I think so, yeah, maybe it was some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. I've thought my hands were relatively safe, like, you know, especially when I'm driving a car.

I don't think they would be at all. I think you crash, you've got your hands on the steering wheel there, and you go forward, you're definitely breaking your thumbs, right? I don't know about that. No? How do you hold the steering wheel? I just... Yeah, but what about my seatbelt?

Flat hand, just grip it between... But I got seatbelt on. I guess thumbs are going nowhere. They're mobile. They can feel a bit of metal. You don't drive with your arms locked in. Like your elbows locked and stretched out of here. Even then, I think that I probably break my elbows and not my thumbs.

No, no. Elbows locked in two thumbs. Two thumbs out stretched. Side by side on the steering wheel like that and then you forward impact at all. Yeah, I could do hit a Breaking at the lights now both my thumbs Yeah, so it's whatever that is oh how about that on the paving on the pavement It's just endless gifts of people grabbing another person's finger and breaking it. I mean, that would absolutely do that for me.

Yeah. I think I hadn't realized that it would be like a visual, like a screen, but I think that's really good. I think that's a great idea. The whole, all the ground is a screen. So because now we're making it digital, we can make it so that it's actually, they're actually solar panels, so that's how we can power this thing. And pay for it.

And then, but over the top of the solar panels, there's just a little projection and allows us to put endless gifts of people breaking their fingers. Pulling out fingernails. Oh yeah. I mean, we're just describing our torture. Yeah, there's just just images of torture on the way. Finger-based torture. All finger-based.

Because I think that would also make you want to put your phone away so that your fingers could be safe. You're right. I'm glad we finally cracked that one. Yeah, no, we did. I think we definitely did with the finger torture. And the terrible body parts. Now how do you see that playing out?

Of course, yeah. Because, you know, I mean, very, you know, very easy could simply be a ranking. It could just be a ranking terrible body parts. The Body Part Institute. The Institute for Body Parts. The Body Parts. Not a BPI? Yeah, the Body Part Institute. I mean, it could be, first of all, it's a story about these people, the body parts. The Institute for Body Parts.

The Institute for Body Parts. And it's a sort of a many documentary about them leading up to their big annual report on the most terrible body parts. And so you see them sort of testing. Oh no. You know they have to be testing body parts. I reckon they just talk around what they reckon. I reckon it's all just like, oh that's like the conversation we had that bit but the ear that connects your ear to your head that's got to be. That's got to be Put that up there. I wanna know about the budget for the Institute for Body Parts. How much do they get a year?

You know, they're... Broom. Maybe they could be associated with a sort of a broader remit of, and this could be associated also with the thing with the disgusting pavement. You know the TAC, the Transport Accident Commission, they're the ones who do all the advertising for like fast and you seatbelt, take a power nap, wipe off five, right? Wipe off five.

My POV, they have got like some extra money or they're expanding into like other types of accidents. They're not just going to, you're not, they're not just doing road accidents, they're doing everything because they're aiming for like, they've all, say they've wiped out all road accidents. They're now no car crashes. And now they're, they've got to zero. That was their objective all along, but now they've got this huge bureaucracy and they've got all these people that need to keep in jobs. Yeah. Right, so then they take on something else. Sure. And when you have a well-willed machine like that, you don't just retire it.

No, no, no, you keep it greasy. You keep it turning over. Prime, yeah, absolutely. Keep it firing and it's prime, baby. You don't let it sit, let it idle. No, what you do, I mean, the car you can't let it idle, that means it's staying still Still working, but yeah, but you don't sit it turn it off and let it rust Switching off the engine. That's the real idling. That's the real idling It's funny for a car to really be idle

Idling it needs to be switched off and not idling So this is part of their program about idling. So this is part of their program about you know terrible body parts and raising people's awareness of yeah maybe just around drumkits. Yeah I mean oh god it's awful when you see somebody with a one of those rings in their ear, those ear, with this like stretched out, the ear, what I don't know, who's hearing that stretched out there, the earlobe.

Everybody knows what you're talking about. And to think about that getting caught in something. Yeah, I think I've seen one that's been broken before. Yeah, they're around. The body doesn't need more loops. It doesn't need more loops. The body doesn't need more loops. The body doesn't need more loops.

Because the boot doesn't get enough from the loops and you don't need any more loops when you're on your... When you're near a drum kit, extra loops on your body are just extra targets for high-hat stems to get caught in and tear open your body. The lobe is actually a perfectly non-terrible organ. However, when you add a loop or if somehow you allow the high-hat stem to go deep enough into your thing, like impress deep enough and then allow

that the tearing to occur on the join with earlobe in the head, bad things can happen. Intrary's can occur. What's your is when you're around drum kits? I think this is a thing I asked. It's so specific now and I really appreciate that, right? Is it like, it could be a thing because this has happened once or twice or maybe it's even becoming an epidemic, whether it was once and like part of the settlement that they got when they went to court with this thing was that the company had to take extra measures to make people aware of the risks. The, the minutiae of it all is amusing to me.

It's people, people got hurt with a drum kit. And then they say, you need to inform people about the risks. And then they come back and they have this thing about like, you know, all careful, you know, puts a warning sign, Kefee don't trip over on this high hat foot, because then you'll fall on a drum kit and bruise your back or whatever. And then, and then the judge is like, no, no,

you gotta warn people about all the risks. And then, and then they have to come up with any scenario in which people can enjoy themselves near a drum kit. I love it so much. You could be putting a snare drum on a high shelf and it could fall off and catch in the bangle that's on your wrist. And cause some bruising. Look, that was a really big deal. I liked it. It was my favorite one.

Really? I'll say thank you so much. Oh my God. No. You're a very supportive friend. Well, I think it's the best thing you've said since I've been able to hear you properly on the mic. Well, that's again, you're too kind to me.

First, you give me the opportunity to be properly hurt on the mic. And now... And then I'd be quiet for a little bit, just so that you can say the best things you've ever said. And I don't even realize that I am giving you shit, but I wake up halfway through ascendants and I realize I'm deep in giving you shit. And I just know what I want to be doing.

It's just always quite a specific form of shit, though, which is what makes it so wonderful. Alistair, we have three words from a listener to come up with a sketch idea based on what that is, that the words are that they've said to us that we then use to come up with an idea that we tell to them. To put it another way, they provide us with three words. That we then use to come up with a sketch idea and to put that in another way,

still what I just said, but a different voice. Excellent. Okay, well, these three words come from the better and bad podcast. Oh, I thought the three words were better in bed. No, no, no, no, no. I came from the better and bad podcast, which is a which is the way in which one of our listeners, Jai Smith hides his name. Oh, because he's a friend of the show. He's a friend of the show. He's a friend of the show. It's a long time Twitter.

Believe it, I believe he lives in Hong Kong. Hello, Joy. Hi, Joy. I mean, we assume you listen to the show. Otherwise, you'd tweet us references to the show. Yeah. And you've done it. I don't know how you've been timed.

You're maybe read the transcripts. You could be an amazing Claire Voient. Imagine if the show had its own Claire Voient. Hmm. You don't really hear about those since the ancient Greeks. Claire Voyant of the show. He also does the podcast with his possibly friend, possible lover. I haven't listened to Paul Daze, Jay.

I'm going to listen to it now. I didn't even know that this was a podcast song. I'm going to listen to it now. Better and better. It could just be a compadre. They might not know each other. Her name is Seratang or Sara Tang. Anyway, his three words are Hong Kong,

one word, cats and fries. You know Hong Kong has just had a big old bridge. Big old bridge, 50 kilometers of bridge and it's so much bridge. My God. Absolutely. And along that bridge, you think that it's so long you would need some kind of services provided to people.

Yes, Elmister. Maybe some stuff they could eat, maybe some stuff they could pat. Sure. I mean, very often we see services advertised by the side of the road and think of the ones that they offer to you. Fuel, water, food, but these are just a few of the basic human needs. Absolutely. If you were driving past a sign that said last hug for 2,000 kilometers, maybe that's a bit of an example.

It's 2,000 too far. How big is Australia? I don't know. It's longer than 2,000. Great, okay. You're driving the Nullabore. Yep, absolutely. Perfect choice of road.

Thanks. And then you see a sign offering, this is your last service. Last hug. You think of all the things that you could get. That's a possibility for a sketch. I also like because Hong Kong has a separate legal system to mainland China as a remnant of colonization. Do you have your idea, Radik? Can you hold onto it for one second? I can hold onto it. How about this? When you leave a town? Right. What do you what do you recognize the circumference around the earth? In

Columbia see two pi R so the radius of the earth is about 6000 kilometers two pi six is 36,000 So let's say you leave in Hong Kong. There should be a sign that says last Hong Kong 36,000 kilometers. It's just the idea. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, in that case, Alistair, every time I leave you, right, that's the last Alistair Trombloy virtual for 36,000 kilometers. That's true. Yeah, if you keep going in one direction. Yeah But I mean all of these things assume that you keep going in one direction right every every Single one of these sides doesn't allow for the fact that you could just turn around and come back last few for 500k less you turn around and come back which case you're right there right now it's a zero case or you could get halfway to record that's still 500k that case but

what if you only go a quarter of the way that is half of that against 250k so you see the field is going 95% of the way. Yes, well you go well that is even further isn't it? What if you go a quarter of the way turn around and well, I'll go a little bit and see if it further, isn't it? What if you go quarter of the way, turn around, come back and haste, turn around again, go forward another ninth, then you turn around and come back again, but you run out of fuel before you get there

and you walk the rest of the way, and you get a hitchhike, all the way to your destination. What if, what if, just as you pass this side, and your body gets, you lose control of it, but the foot of your weight, the weight of your foot on the pedal and you leaning on the steering wheel means you do donuts for the rest for the next six days.

A little tag you an infinite time. You'll never get there. You'll never get there at all. Because there's no hospital in the town. So when someone you can't finally stop moving, someone's going to helicopter you to Alice Springs and then you know helicopter helicopter you don't pronounce the putter I don't try to pronounce the putter I think it's I think it's a helicopter yeah I think it's it's I just think it's it's unjust to not give that pee a full syllable. Because we're kind of kidding ourselves, right?

HELLA COMPTER. Yeah, you're right. It's KAH PAH TUR. E-showed me. Yeah. All right, so out of that mess, was there an idea? My idea was going to be about a special a special, special administrative zone for different animals. Yeah, that's good, that's what we're getting to.

Remember, hold on to that. Yeah, but no feelings. I know, but my idea doesn't count for the punkist, it doesn't involve cats or flies. Elis, it doesn't matter, this is just to inspire us, and then we come up with things. So what you think, the last Hong Kong for 30 years?

I think the last Hong Kong for 30 years? I think the last Hong Kong for 30 feet. Okay. I was just making sounds because I was just mucking around with my voice and Alistair raised his eyebrows and smiled at me which made me realize that I was doing sounds that could be interpreted. I think this is what you're communicating to me as some kind of racist access and I don't want to believe that about myself that that's what I was doing. But it's, look, I also can't prove that that wasn't the case. I just need to ask everyone to believe. Yeah, I think it's fine. Andy, before we move on.

Thank you, and I love that we're at the point where you can just raise your eyebrows at me, and I know he's actually what I mean. He's like a warning signal that's when a gazelle raises its white tail to the other gazelles around the water and coal. They know that one of the gazelles is about to say something that could be interpreted as racist. Yeah. And what was the thing about the categories of animals being kept in a thing?

It wasn't anything. It was a special administrative zone for cat hunters. They have their own legal area. I don't think it's a thing. What about a suburb where they only serve chips? Like a suburb that needs its own kind of oh yeah like it needs its own kind of thing you know like you know it's it's in a pretty touristy town but this this suburb is way off the tourist trail yeah and so they just make it that every show they can still sell

what they make but they have to sell it in the shape of a chip, and it has to be deep fry. I mean, this could be a storyline for our tidy town story, an idea. It could be, it could be downstairs. Deep fry everything, yeah? It's like these days, everything seems like mean, it's like how these days, it seems like everything's built with like Wi-Fi or Bluetooth enabled.

Yeah, so chips with Wi-Fi. No, Alistair, no, what I'm saying. So you can eat the Wi-Fi. Is that my question? Yeah, so you eat the Wi-Fi. Edible Wi-Fi. Right down. Call it Wi-Fi, you know.

Right down. Caught wife fry. You know. Edible wife fry. Ed, I can't rate that down. Right down Edible wife fry. You budget this, Alice, do you? This is for you. Edible wife fry.

Wife fry. I'm gonna write it down. Okay. It's not a thing, is it? Well, is it links to the suburb that everything has to be chips? No, that's not an idea either. Why isn't it an idea? Because it's insane and it doesn't lead anywhere.

Well, I know, but there's conflict between him and the food service people who were like, how are you gonna mic? How are you gonna mic? Who is this him? He's the local mayor. He's trying to bring tourism to it. And he thought that these people would be open to an artistic challenge.

There are tastes they work in the food industry, which is an artistic field, it's a trade, but it's also an artistic field. So this is work in the food industry, which is a, you know, it's an artistic field, it's, I mean, it's a trade, but it's also an artistic field. Oh, so this is just people in food industries, because you said anything, I thought you were doing that any shot. Well, no, and we can't,

I mean, you couldn't sell shirts in the shape of shop. I mean, they could try, but I wouldn't be, they wouldn't be necessarily beyond the rules, because a chip is an edible thing. I mean, they couldn't, and they wouldn't chip is an edible thing. I mean it was this. The YR was imagining it was very silly. It's very silly and I only gave food examples. I said a gyro. I said somebody trying to make a gyro. You were too busy getting angry

with me. That's right. Oh, it was having a great talk. And it is fun and I had fun. Oh good. I could feel here you get wilded up. You started saying, why fry in yelling and it was good. I just, you know, just a bit of a lot of shade in that. All right, in brackets, suburb. All right, let's do it. What kind of touristy town do you think this could be in, but it's a suburb off the tourist trail. What about Malibu?

I've been, I've been, I've been picturing free mantle in Taito. Free mantle in Perth. I'd just say it's outside of Perth. It's down side of Perth. Great, because it's, you know, it, it does pretty well, but it could do better. Why I feel like it's overshadowed by Perth, you know?

And they're quite close together. And I feel like maybe they're, it's almost like they're siblings, you know? But one of them is always overshadowed by the other one, just because it happens to be the capital. Mm-hmm. And, you know, but one of them is always overshadowed by the other one just because it happens to be the capital. And you know, free mantle is like their bear says, well, Perth, they've got their thing, they're the capital. What's going to be our thing? I've come up with an idea.

All our food is in the shape of chips. Yeah, and everything, and they're all sold in a bucket. And they're all sold in a bucket. You know, or in the classic sizes, you know, like you get the paper, the paper, small. Yeah. You get the bucket, and then you get the big family box. Mm-hmm.

So I take us to the... Take us to the 50 kilometer bridge, Alistair. All right. Take us through what we've seen. We've come to, we've come to, 50-kilometer bridge, Yellowstone. All right. Take us through what we've seen. We've come to... Compti-compt with Colour Plenty. Here we are. Today,

sketch ideas. Disrupting the homeless market. This feels like this was so long ago we came up with this. We've been through the full, you know, breadth of human experience since then. This is swagger. We used to be friends back then.

I remember. They were good times, Andy. Yeah, I wish we could get them back, but something's been broken that can't be repaired. Do you think if we spent the night together in a swag and really close quarters. No funny business. We would fix our relationship. I think where you and I are going to be funny business. All right, Andy.

That's the first one. Then we've got, bully comes in and takes everybody's, everyone's jobs. I think that's funny. I think that's funny, right? I think we're still got it. Yeah, well we used to still got it. Yeah. Oh, we got the absurd detail research TV show.

Yeah, you know, still got it. Yeah, I think, I mean, it could, as well as just being, you know, like one of those genealogy ones, it could be like a CSI type thing. I'd get into everything, that's what I like about it. It starts out and it feels like it's, you think it's just gonna be research. And then it gets into science experiments.

And then it gets into maybe some kind of spiritual search for the self and philosophical, for the quest for the idea of truth, or the idea of even knowing what anything is. It's really what you come up against as well. I feel like it, you know, towards the end, the presenter starts to perceive reality in such a way that they can see the many possibilities, they can see the many multiple universes that are all overlaid to form out one reality. Well, yeah, then that's when things really get interesting.

I look forward to that episode. What do you reckon? That's like the fourth episode. Yeah, it's like four episodes. We got the terrible body parts, but this is what this is really about. Terrible. Terrible. What this is really about is the people who worked on sort of car crash commercial, car warning commercials, getting you to get what accident, sort of avoidance things, trying to teach you now about drum kits, about the dangerous drum kits, but it's actually, it's a, okay, sorry, let me start again, I forgot what it was. It's a drum kit company

that have been sued due to an injury that somebody had falling on a drum kit. Yes. Who were told by a judge that they have to put warnings in the booklet or whatever that comes with a drum kit to warn people about the risks involved with the drum kit. And then they're like, no wait, you gotta do all the risks, and they have to list all the risks.

Every possible one, including some that are just to do with, you know, emotional damage, driving away people in your neighborhood. Driving away. Driving away. Driving away. Driving. Away. I know, I just... Dry, ving away. Dry, ving. Oh, way.

I know. I just thought a picture of a guy called ving. Was he dry? That's correct. Yes, that's right. We have the disgusting paving. Yeah. Yeah, to get people looking up from their phones or from looking at the ground.

And that's mostly gifts of people that breaking other people's fingers graphically. Whatever way we've been up doing a sketch, I hope we can do it in such a way that you don't ever have to say anybody breaking anybody's finger. Yeah. Well, I think there's a scene in Sergeant pain or major pain.

Max pain, the computing game? No, no, no. One of the one of the weigh-ins brothers, you know, the really successful one. Oh, Damon. Damon was a general. He breaks somebody's finger in it. Anyway, then we just got that last 36,000 kilometer sign, last Hong Kong for 36,000 kilometers. I think we could build a story around that. Joy, you're welcome. Yeah, you're welcome, Jay.

And then obviously we have the last idea, which is either Y Fry, which is an edible. That's an edible Y Fry. I mean, I just, I think, man, if I was at a tech conference and somebody got up on stage and said two words, edible wifi and then just walked off, I would invest. Yeah, Angel, I'd be the angel investor, I'd be the devil investor.

Yeah, absolutely. Series A. Because I mean, if you could, if you could eat, IPO, fried food, wherever you are. Yes. No matter where you are, on your phone, you could just eat wife-ri. Log on, chow down.

And then there's also the suburb where everything is sold in the shape of a chip to bring in tourism. Because they're off the tourism, they're off the tourism map. And so they're trying to get people to come to, we're done and as surely we make big things. People, but that's a done idea.

You can't just keep making big things. No, until we run out of things to make big as well. Well, not just that. No, that's it. And that doesn't even seem close to the truth. There's no more things to make big. So you've got to come up with new ways to make things interesting. A whole suburb with everything is made out of chips.

Yeah. Imagine that. What would chips strawberries look like? Strawberry chips. Would they just be wet and just cut up? Or would you freeze them? So that's not freeze them. What'd you deep fry them?

I guess you'd have to deep fry them. But could you deep fry them in ice? Ice fry? No, but liquid nitrogen. There you go. Cold fry. Ice fry? No, but they have liquid nitrogen. There you go. Cold fry. Cold fry. Deep cold.

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