Two In The Think Tank - 135 - "ALIEN WAR ROOM"

Episode Date: June 11, 2018

SpacePackers, Symbiotic Tongue, War of the Words, Scrounging for Status in the Ruins of Civilisation, Post War Debrief, Lost Suburb, Rafter Dinner Mints, Mild Bad LuckYou can support the pod by chippi...ng in to our patreon here (thank you!)Two in the Think Tank is a part of the Planet Broadcasting family You can find us on twitter at @twointankAndy Matthews: @stupidoldandyAlasdair Tremblay-Birchall: @alasdairtbAnd you can find us on the Facebook right hereA hunka-hunka burning thanks to George Matthews for producing Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Don't know if we still have radio In a similar form we have podcasts right and where we're the family often comes together of an evening, hang around the iPod shuffle, and sit around the dock. And yeah, the dock, and listen to, you know, let's say, I Ricky Gervais podcast. Ricky Gervais podcasts, maybe they listen to things you missed in history class or whatever. Yeah. Gather around kids.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Gather around. We're going to listen to the podcasts that were pre-loaded on my podcast app. But radio, old school radio, that used to go out into space because all broadcasts with radio waves. And so we could tell ourselves that those things propagate out and are listened to by aliens and stuff. We could tell ourselves. I don't think that happens with podcasts. Is it? I think we've closed off that.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Is it too hard for aliens to get on to the net? I don't know if they can log in. I don't know how many bars they get out there of our Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi. I mean, there must be internet at the International Space Station. You would hope. Well, because they're always tweaking. You would hope. They're tweeting. They're like showing us the weird shit about, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:37 they're ringing out cloths and showing us how water moves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're doing, they're responding to questions from fifth graders. And they're also playing David Bowie songs on their guitars. And it's like it's like a some kind of weird share house situation up there. The international share station like that and they're pooping into vacuums. Yeah, or maybe it's more like a like a like a backpackers because they are from all over the world. All over the world, yeah. Yeah, one's brought a guitar.
Starting point is 00:03:11 One's brought a guitar and he gets that out and they've all those spacesuits, they have backpacks. Oh my God, you're right. And they have spacesuits like a backpacker. I'm just going to. What's that? Absolutely nothing else there. Okay, great. Um, okay, what's in this? What's in the international space station being a backpackers? Okay, like do we do we? Does it? does it get advertised as a backpacking
Starting point is 00:03:49 destination, does it become one in the future? You know, a lot of hotels over time, changing liquor licenses and that sort of thing, they wind up becoming backpackers accommodation. Well, I think around the city. I think it's funny to just film, it has like a sitcom kind of synonymous. Yes, yes. It's the International Space Station,
Starting point is 00:04:11 but you're treating it like a backpackers. It's just people are just kind of like, oh, Yuris, Yuris, you know, pissed himself because he drank too much, you know, bootleg gin or whatever. Yeah, yeah. He drank too much, you know, bootleg gin or whatever. Yeah, you know, Tremantha is washing her,
Starting point is 00:04:29 her running shoes in the kitchen sink. Yeah, or like, you know, or everything about that was just the worst example. Oh, man, it's such density of failure in that example. Tremendous, is that a name? No, no, okay. That's just the start of it, Alice, anyway. What would she be washing off in space? Yeah, well.
Starting point is 00:04:55 There's no dirt. Well, there could be, you know, maybe she, her, you know, the poop vacuum. Oh, I imagine if they had bed bugs. Well, that's a possibility. Because as we know now, they found organic material on Mars. Mm. Mm.
Starting point is 00:05:13 It's probably bedbugs. There's bedbugs in space. They probably can survive that. He is just one slight twist on that. What if there's just one backpacker in there, right? Like one Swedish backpacker is in the International Space Station for some reason. Now we've got that interesting thing of that dynamic
Starting point is 00:05:35 between these driven scientists up there to pursue the goal of bringing man closer to God, knowing the mind of God. And then we have Sven who's just looking to have a good time, maybe meet some girls. Once I was in New Zealand at backpackers, there was a Swedish guy or a Dutch guy or something like that. And he was just like, I just want to have lamb. I want to have lamb prepared correctly, like here in New Zealand, because it's a place of lamb. I go, it's just gonna taste like lamb.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Like it's gonna be, like if you've had lamb, that's what it's gonna be like. It's just lamb. Like meat doesn't, like if you go to a steak, have a steak at a restaurant, it's basically like having a steak at home. There's not anything that they're doing to it, really, to make it.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Like it just tastes like you're just eating meat. You know what beef tastes like. You know what lamb. I just want to hear of lamb is great in space. Spice lamb. So but now it's wacky. You see now it's wacky. Oh, you don't like it being wacky? Well, I think it can be wacky, but it's like I feel like yours is more wacky. Well, yeah, but but it's like but it's Where they're still under the presumption of it being a space station whereas now we've got a backpack. How did he get there? sure Is he is either guy from nsync? He um he hitched a ride maybe on a shuttle or something You know all like like he crashed at
Starting point is 00:07:06 somebody's place and then he just sort of invited himself along to the space station. He was in at NASA and then they turned around and he got in there somehow. Maybe, you know, he's almost like a kind of a virus or it's like alien. But instead of an alien, there's a backpacker. That's seed now and we've got something here out. This come on, come on, you tell me this isn't a concept. Come on. Well, I mean, so is it still the international space station?
Starting point is 00:07:38 It's some kind of space station. Okay, well, if it's some kind of space station and it's just like, you know, then it's kind of like, it's more goofy. It's goofy, it's more goofy. It's more goofy. It's not wacky if it's some kind of space station and it's just like, you know, then it's kind of like it's it's more goofy. It's goofy It's more wacky. It's goofy. Well, you know, but But I think if it's the international space station I think this is kind of like a thing people know and love from the YouTube videos Yeah, I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:07:56 Cross water coming out, you know, but it's a bit like a backpackers and so that's more the allegory that you're using of a backpackers You know, no, that's the allegory. You're using Yeah, I want nothing to do with this. Well when I say you're I'm saying the general populace would kind of be Everyone except for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, where's yours? You're really trying to bring in like reality in there of like Oh, what if there was an actual backpacker? Alistair, I'm not bringing in real you Everything you're saying contradicts everything else you're saying. Every syllable you say contradicts the previous syllable. This is you're insane and you're dangerous. Andy, you're upset that I'm not 100% on board., but the thing is there are two there are two different ideas
Starting point is 00:08:47 There's two different ideas and they're both equally valid Yeah, I suppose so I'm being so generous. I mean like you know one thing that they ask you This is like so from a conversation I had with somebody who's had meetings before one thing they ask you in a pitch meeting is Why why this now? Oh, wow. You know? And we thought of it. And the thing is, is that something like, you know, just a random spaceship going through space, encountering, you know, a Sven, you know, maybe in some pod that's just been floating through the air, they
Starting point is 00:09:26 bring it in, he's just asleep there, they didn't realize it was just a backpacker. Alistair, the more you flesh this out, the more excited I am. Yeah, that way. And it's a great idea. And I think it's a great idea for like a, you know, for like, it's like Red Dwarf meets alien. Yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Mates like he died with a falafel in his hand. Exactly. Like that, right? And that's great. But why that now? Right? Whereas the international space station, right? If we're making something about that, you know, NASA's losing its funding probably.
Starting point is 00:10:01 You know, this is a thing that's relevant. This station is only going to be up in the air for another two, three, four years, isn't it? Isn't that right? Alistair, you've totally compelled me. We have to make it now. Your document of NASA's losing its funding probably just swad me. Yeah. And I was utterly flawed.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And at this time of tension between America and Russia, how does that how does that play out? How does that play out in space? If it's a backpackers. You know, are those guys spies in somewhere? Are they both astronauts and spies? Okay, here's this Okay, here's this. Mine, right? Mine one's called backpacker. Okay. And it's the original alien. Yours, backpackers, it's the sequel. No, no, no, no, I don't want mine to be called backpackers. I want that to be the allegory that emerges, but it's not made, it's not made explicit it's not made, you know, explicit like that.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Sure. I like it less obvious. I like it so obvious. You love it obvious. And you know what I'm saying? There's going to be a suspension of disbelief. There's not even going to be any low zero gravity stuff. Everyone's just going to be walking around.
Starting point is 00:11:21 That's actually really good. That's quite fun. Yeah. Well, you can have that in yours if you like. I don't like I'm not 100% I just I'm just generally on board with the idea of any kind of space thing. We're like you're in space. Yeah. But there's no space stuff. Yeah. Like everybody knows you're in space. They get it. No like vacuum or what? And everyone's just basically in a house. I mean, that's kind of what he did, you know, with 2001. I mean, at first, like, they're like, oh, yeah, we're in space, big dance, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:11:50 But then, once you get on the ship, they're like, all right, let's just activate that fake gravity thing as if that can just work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we're just walking around. And we're just walking around, all right. Okay. You get it, you get it, space, space, space, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:12:02 All right, now let's just... And then it's basically, it's just a sitcom. Yeah, exactly. It's just a thing where people are talking slowly and nothing much is happening. And then, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the other thing is that is your idea just hitchhakers go to Galaxy, but with a Swedish hitchhiker? No, it's definitely not. Great.
Starting point is 00:12:31 No, because I hadn't thought of that until this point, and I'm not going to analyze it enough to find all the similarities. But I can just say definitely not. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't hitchhiking. He was just drifting aimlessly through space in a pod. Now, here's a totally separate idea, right? So you can write down whichever of those two ideas, Alistair,
Starting point is 00:12:51 you think is the best. And I just leave that up to you and I trust your judgment. And I trust that you're honest enough with yourself to be able to make that kind of a call, all right? Because I think you ultimately you know which one's the better idea. And I'm not even gonna look at what you've written down.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So it's, you know, and I guess it'll just be between you and your God, whatever you choose to do in a situation. Here's an unrelated idea. I would say that of all the body parts on the human body, that if we would have been been told they're not actually part of our body, they're just a parasitic life form that has come and has joined our body. I would say the tongue. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I say the tongue quite clearly is so different to anything else on the body. And so separate and also potentially superfluous. Right? Like I don't think we necessarily need the tongue. Whoa, that's bald. But it's there, it's weird, it moves around like a snake worm, like a flat old musculosnake worm. Nothing else on the body does that.
Starting point is 00:14:04 No, you're right. And the saying, you know, like, like, I don't know if anyone studied the DNA of the tongue. I know we studied the DNA of a lot of, like, of the body. Yeah. But I don't know if they've looked at the tongue. And if we found out that it was, oh my God, this is like nothing we've ever seen before. Well, I'm picturing, first of all, I'm picturing trying to eat soup without a tongue, where you like put it into your mouth, and then it just kind of sits in that cavity down there.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah, and then you tip your head back. Oh, cool. Yeah, I guess that seems easy. Like a bird. Yeah. And I guess, yeah, a lot of animals probably do without tongues. Do birds have, they birds wouldn't have tongues. Birds have got tongues.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Every animal's got a tongue. Really? What about bugs? Bugs might not have tongues. Do they have like inner mandibles as well? They just kind of keep like pushing things backwards. Oh man, like in, like those things in, men in black, When he swallows
Starting point is 00:15:06 Zed and he shoves him Whatever his name is not Zed the other one shoves him down his throat for yeah, she was yeah, that's not good But I think yeah That it's it's I'm not saying it's not a symbiotic relationship like I'm not saying the tongue doesn't bring something There's obviously a reason weic relationship. Like I'm not saying the tongue doesn't bring something. There's obviously a reason we've kept the tongue around. Right? But...
Starting point is 00:15:29 But I am into it. It's just suspicious. I'm into this because it makes me think of that, let's say, we encounter a new type of, like, ray. Yeah. Like some kind of signal, through either electromagnetic signal or like, you know, or something else.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah, right. And the side effect of it is that it convinces this creature, this creature that is usually in a symbiotic relationship with man, to just that it could just do it on its own. Yeah, well like maybe it's from their home planet Right and it's it's calling all the tongues Calling all tongues calling all tongues To like lick their way
Starting point is 00:16:21 To freedom and like they all get together imagine that Imagine just a whole lot of tongues all get together in like a tidal wave. We see them coming down the street, leaving a trail of saliva. And they form this kind of like, you know, a bigger tongue. A bigger, super organism tongue. That rolls itself around?
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah. Like a roll of tongue. Yeah, you know, like it makes you know that big muscular side, the base part, big thick and then comes down to a point but it curls itself over like that. And then it shifts its weight so that it can just roll down the street.
Starting point is 00:16:54 The main street of New York. Yeah, I don't know what it's called. Well, obviously like old main street New York. But then you turn to the TV and you can see the Sydney Opera House is sort of burning and yeah And then you're clearly there the tongues have got out there and You know then you turn and you can see that there's an uprising and and maybe Libya You know, and there's just this sandy tongue. It's like you know like oh
Starting point is 00:17:19 Like yeah, just like it's it's it, you know, it's mobile phone footage. I have people going shaky, you know, they're close. They're like running away and they're seeing this sandy tongues just running at them and knocking over people and people are getting up and, you know, like, the tongues gone by and you can see people's full body imprint in the ground. They're getting up from that full body imprint. And they got a sliver all over their back. Yeah, they got that slime. And they got no tongues.
Starting point is 00:17:46 They all got no tongue. And this is gonna be a really, I think this would be a great film. This is a weird, this is just a weird detail, but you know, like in some cultures, do is that, la la la la la la la. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And like that, when they do that, they won't be able to do it with, that they won't have their tongue. Oh my god. It's just going to be, that's so compelling, because it's so real. Yeah, and so I think it really humanizes it. Yeah. Like when we see what people have lost. Exactly. And I think, but then of course, there's got to be, there's got to be some people who've like, they have such a relationship with their tongues.
Starting point is 00:18:25 That it's hard. Maybe the tongue doesn't wanna go and see then that's an interesting story. That's the real like, that's the emotional core of our film. Mm, one man and a tongue. And one man has to team up with his tongue to lick the alien menace.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Oh yeah, that's good, Andy. That's already, that's, that's on the cover of the DVD. And I like we're only releasing it on DVD. Not Blu-ray. Not Blu-ray. Not high definition. VCD. We're only releasing it on VCD. A lot of people do that. Is that digital? Yeah. But I like, and then we have, we have pretty much a good idea. The exact, we have the exact, not VOD, not video on demand, VCD, those video CDs. We have the, that's a good compression, you know, that's good. You know, 650 meg, that's a good downloadable size.
Starting point is 00:19:28 That's right. I'm still for it. What about a way of compressing videos where we don't lose any quality? We just cut out a bunch of scenes that you don't really need. That's a good thing. And we summarize them. It saves, it just, could you just make the synopsis in video form? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Absolutely, you could just watch that. We have the exact speech from Independence Day. Yeah. The big speech, this is our Independence Day. But you delivers it without a tongue. Oh, no. In your Independence Day. No. I love it so far.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And then there's also people who have been, who've really mistreated their tongues. You know, who, their tongues, not don't even bother going to join the thing. First, they're gonna kill you. Yeah, well, you can choke on your own tongue. Well, yeah, so it's delicious. You can choke on your tongue
Starting point is 00:20:21 when it's even no longer your own. Yeah, yeah, it can strangle you. Yeah. I mean, it's just dove down. Yeah, it could wriggle out. And I think the tongue. These are people who drink soup too hot and stuff? Absolutely. And this is one of the things that you would really see the effects on people
Starting point is 00:20:39 who, once they've lost their tongue, they're going to take a bite from, let's say, a pie or something that's just come out of the oven. They're not gonna have that cooling system of bouncing the food around. Round with their tongue. While you breathe in and out, air to cool it really quickly. Yeah, because the tongue cops all of that heat. And we're gonna realize, as soon as we're dumping that onto our, like, our bottom palate, we're gonna realize exactly how hot that's been and what we've been putting our tongues through. Absolutely. And then gonna realize exactly how hot that's been and what we've been putting our tongues through. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And then, and I guess that would have been the less putting your tongue through. Do you have you with, with, anyway. And I guess also there might be a wound there now too. So that's also gonna be painful. We're not gonna see a wound. Okay, great. It's all gonna be so great.
Starting point is 00:21:24 It's a clean break. It's a clean break. It's a clean break. Yeah, because I think the time was never really connected. It was just holding on. Yeah, with some something. Yeah, I mean, like, you could imagine it. You know, it doesn't want to hurt itself either.
Starting point is 00:21:35 No, no, no. So even if there is like an atomic bond there, you could just break that. Atomic James Bond. Oh, my goodness. I know I just had to say We can delete that if you want you want to go back and delete that from the podcast Andy. I want just that clip Cut out and then put on to other larger podcasts in our own and use to advertise this podcast.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Right, okay. Let's buy some advertising space on the weekly planet. That's fair. How are we going to overcome the tongues? How are we going to overcome them? Yeah. Well, I guess we've got to realize what are tongues, what is their weakness? Maybe the underside of the tongue? It could be hot food though. It could be hot food. Yeah, it could be soup, hot soup.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Or like cups of tea that you've just poured. Yeah, you know that thing when you take a big sip when you don't realize how hot it is and you realize I just have to let this liquid pour out of my mouth because I am Have you ever done that? What about a microwave party pie? Yeah That's how we get them. Yeah, that's exactly it We put it in And we just have like lines of people, microagos, ding, and then throwing them like Molotov cocktails.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah, yeah, or we're making a giant party pie and we're- And to get the big tons of junk together. Yeah, we're heating it up with a nuclear reactor somehow, you know, redirecting the energy of the sun. I mean, the idea of just making a microwave big enough to handle a big party pie. And then you can see the tongues, they have it thrown at them, and then they do bounce it on them for a bit. Yeah, but I guess there's no breath and there's nothing to do the breathing. Yeah, but then at some point You just see them crumble and Like that and realize that they there's actually no defense against yeah
Starting point is 00:23:52 And then from that point on everybody's tongue they get you get your tongue back But the tongue is somehow in shackles Like shackled to your face. Oh Yeah, right. So we do actually get it back. I guess so do you have to put like one of those professor You know like those magneto helmets on the time so you'd hear the symbol the signal I'm I'm really into just remaking other films but Completely like you just use the shape of that film and
Starting point is 00:24:24 but completely, you just use the shape of that film and then but just completely changed. So you never say this is just independence day, but with tongues. You never say that. You don't say that, because I think we will. That makes it, that cheapens it somehow. That cheapens it. But you do have to send up something to the mother ship.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Yes. To kind of stop it from being able to send that signal. The mouth that ship. It's a big mouth. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Is it kind of an a bit of a frown? Yeah. Frown mouth. Yeah. Is it, was it on the moon? Was the island ship on the moon? No. Remember because we, there was, they were kind of like hidden in the clouds. Hidden in the clouds. Oh well you know there were, there were, they weren't motherships but they were ships that came over the cities and they were just kind of hidden in cloud for ages and then eventually
Starting point is 00:25:14 they kind of got revealed and that's when they did those big beams into the Oh and blew up the white house and a few other buildings. You know that was, that's more of a, you know, that's a symbolic move, right? That one, because it's, you're not really destroying one of the most important buildings in like Washington, DC probably. There's probably like some buildings there
Starting point is 00:25:39 that are much more important that, you know, like let's say that runs the telephone systems or like the, you know, the water or electricity or something like that, you know, like, let's say that runs the telephone system, so like the, you know, the water or electricity or something like that, you know, if you knock that out, that would probably have a real negative effect. Like, the president will probably be a far away from that building, you know, even if he goes into one of his tunnels or just... I quite like this from an alien perspective of their attacking strategically important targets, but the vision doesn't look impressive. The TV broadcasts, what even is that?
Starting point is 00:26:20 It's a damn or something like that, or it's a... It's a dam or something like that, or it's a... My dams look quite impressive when they crumble. But just like some kind of gray, basically formless, server farm or something, which is where they keep a lot of the cloud, the data, internet of some kind. This is, yeah, it's just like a signal place where a lot of the telecommun know, the telecommunications, the electricity network, and then maybe like the,
Starting point is 00:26:49 you know, all the lights for the streets and stuff. And they get run, they get run on there. Now how do we present that as a sketch? Well, because like, like, like, it feels like it, I, now that I, now that I conceptually know the idea, I'm into it, right? I like it a lot, but but because it is by its nature visually unimpressive, how do we sell it in a way that still makes it like interesting? So I think like a trailer for a movie or we see it from the point of view of the aliens.
Starting point is 00:27:23 So we see the ship, we see the ship pull up in front over the top of the White House, right? And then we cut to inside, right? And some lackey just goes Independence Day alien captain. What's going on here? Why are we stopping above the White House? And he goes, well, we're going to blow up the White House. For some reason this captain sounds like Obama. We're going to go over the White House. We're going to blow it up. It's going to look spectacular. Well, that's not really going to have a huge effect on him. And then they go, well, actually, a lot of us strategically, we kind of figured out this would be way better. And he was, well, it's not going to look good.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I think alien war room is really good. Alien war room. So we got all the aliens sitting around. They're planning the assault on the earth. And we can tackle a whole lot of those kinds of tropes. Yeah. Alien war room. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:29:06 voyage. Huge voyage. Huge. Great expense. See, yeah, I think, I think destroying things like the White House is might have a short term morale kind of victory for them. Keep going, I just have to pee real quick. Yeah, yeah, no, that's fine. I'm bloody, I could do this for hours. You get a short term morale style victory from blowing up the White House. But in the longer term, if you're hoping to take over that location,
Starting point is 00:29:39 we've got to think about the heritage value of the White House. And that's ultimately be gonna, you know, 50, 60 years down the track, the aliens are very much entrenched in power. The alien economy is strong. The earthlings, slaves, you know, have helped the development of an alien middle class.
Starting point is 00:30:02 What do you get then? You get alien tourism. And those aliens are gonna be fascinated by the, you know, the quaint picturesque symbolism and, you know, artifacts of the former human inhabitants of Washington, D.C. And the economic value of something like the White House to a future alien tourism economy, like local alien tourism economy, is going to be enormous. So I think you've got to think, you've got to factor that kind of thing into your alien
Starting point is 00:30:39 landmark demolition program. This is, you know, you're sure you're blowing up the Statue of Liberty, but really you're shooting yourself in the foot in the long term. Not just the Statue of Liberty in the foot, but you know, as well as in other parts of the world. I only just really recently realized that it's the statue of liberty because it's a statue of Lady Liberty Right, I thought it was just like the statue of Liberty sort of just it's a statue sort of about
Starting point is 00:31:15 Liberty yeah symbolizing Liberty, but it's not it's the statue of Liberty so because her name is Liberty. She's Liberty. She's Liberty. Oh. Liberty. Liberty. L-I-D-L-B-I-T-Y. Liberty. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Oh. I'm not talking about liberty. Yeah. I'm talking about liberty. No. Liberty.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I guess, you know, it brings to mind like one of those stereotypical stripper names that is often something kind of meaningful like that. So, you know, we don't know what she's wearing under that toga. That's right. Liberty would be a great stripper name. It would be. It would be. You know, I guess you need the last name. It's gotta be like Liberty Fox or Liberty Sanchez.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I don't know, Sanchez is not a great stripper last name. It's just kinda like Smith but Latino. Yeah. I was thinking, you know, like if you are traveling intergalactically, they're usually would have to be some kind of purpose. Obviously, exploration is something, but I guess the people back home
Starting point is 00:32:31 gotta feel like they're paying for, you know, for these journeys for something. Like you're probably bringing something back, new technology or resources or something like that. There's gotta be like something that makes it viable, but is it viable to just do it for sort of home planet moral, you know, to just like people back home sort of watch, keep track of the journey,
Starting point is 00:32:54 and it just makes them feel good to see them destroying other civilizations. Yeah, well, I mean, it's got a kind of a sports vibe to it then, doesn't it? Like, you know, we're always excited when Australia makes the football world cup. Yeah. And when we beat some of the oceanic nations.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Of course, yeah. Thrilling. Yeah. When we almost get a draw with somewhere like Japan, my God, this country is electric. Yeah, and so I guess, sort of interplanetary war is the greatest sport of all. Right? And so you would go there and you would just blow them up, you go see, we're the best, and then you would feel good about yourself, and then you'd move on and
Starting point is 00:33:38 search for other potential planets that have, that live in the Goldilocks zone. Yes. Right? Which is the area in which the the Goldilocks zone. Yes. Right. Which is the area in which the porridge is the right temperature. Yes. And the chairs are not too hard or too slow. And the bears are absent. Yeah, and the bears are absent.
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Starting point is 00:35:02 for Earth to be defeated by aliens in that case, because we're playing a home game. You know, we have the home ground advantage. We're wearing our home shirts. Do you think that while we're being beaten up by aliens, we feel embarrassed that everyone's here seeing us be beaten by aliens? Yeah, I think so. I wonder what kind of things you would say to somebody,
Starting point is 00:35:26 like let's say aliens are currently destroying the world. They're invading things around you are not good. There's lots of rubble and you're kind of just scurrying between shells of buildings to shells of buildings, looking for canned food and things like that. And around the place you can just see, you know. Hovering sort of orbs. Hovering orbs.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Picking off the few survivors. Yeah, and there's like, there's ground troops that are kind of, you know, that they've got lots of tubes coming off of them and they're carrying some kind of weapon that's like a blue flame thrower. Yeah, exactly. But then you encounter another person, maybe somebody that you would see on your bus
Starting point is 00:36:09 every now and then during regular life. What kind of small talk do you go? Do you say like, this is fucked. I wonder if you, if just to pull back the sports thing again, if like a sports team who is losing, we find ways to justify it to ourselves. You know, we say things about, we blame the referee or whatever the equivalent
Starting point is 00:36:34 of the referee is, we talk about the conditions, we talk about the important injuries that we've had recently and how like, you know, really, this is just a new team that we're getting together. There's a lot of youngsters in here and I feel like, you know, sure we're losing today, but we're laying the groundwork to, you know, several civilizations from now, put together a pretty compelling backline and, you know, hopefully, fend off these kinds of attacks in fusion. Is that interesting in any way?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, I mean, I could see that being one person's point of view. Like a look mate, we could have done why better, but they were cheating. But the boys did their best. Yeah, we've done our best. You know, but then I think a post, any kind of post war press conference done in a sports coach justification style, like Australia has been invaded. We've been totally overrun. And there's a press conference in which the head of the army and a couple of the...
Starting point is 00:37:49 Could be robot revolution. Major generals. Exactly. Couple of the major generals are there and they're feeling questions and they're just responding to them in the way that like, oh, it couldn't have been more proud of the boys,
Starting point is 00:38:01 it couldn't have been more proud of the boys. I mean, we've obviously, you know, we've had a tough season, but you play what you, you know, what's in front of you. Yeah, obviously like that, but with more military kind of allusions that, obviously like that, Alistair, with the bits added into it that make it comedy.
Starting point is 00:38:24 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I believe we got given some words by listener of the podcast, three words from a listener of the podcast supporter on Patreon. Before we go to that. Yes, I'm gonna say something. I think this, the small talk during
Starting point is 00:38:41 during getting wiped out. Yes. There's something there. Yeah. Like, where it's just like, what are you talking to somebody about? Are you like, like you do see somebody who you don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I guess you're asking if there's any food. Are you, are you doing? Yeah, do we still have the politeness? Do we still have the, yeah, how are you? Oh, good, good. Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. You know, the meaningless stuff before we actually get into any kind of... Or like the... Or status...
Starting point is 00:39:24 Or the sarcastic humor, like, you know, like, good day for it. Yeah. Oh, having a good day? Yeah, great one. Thanks. Or, right, it's someone... you and your family are staggering injured through the mud. You've lost a leg and you're carrying all your possessions in your arms, right? But you bump into somebody that you went to high school with. And you're trying to... Still seem like things are going pretty good. Yeah, yeah, between the two of you, you're both sort of slightly competing
Starting point is 00:40:09 to say who's still doing the best. I haven't seen you since high school. Yeah. Are you still doing engineering? Yeah, you go, oh no, I dropped out. What about you still doing architecture? Well, yeah, I go, I'm using one of these tubes that you roll up, engineering drawings as a,
Starting point is 00:40:30 as a leg. As a leg. Right now. And yeah, but in there is some stuff I'm working on at the moment, and we got a, actually the site where, where we were going to build it, it's actually been cleared now because of the invasion. So that's probably a good chance
Starting point is 00:40:45 that there's going to get a go ahead of us. Yeah, we're pretty excited about the potential for the growth of the industry. Obviously, once all this is over. And we're reestablished. Absolutely, once we start rebuilding, then I'm doing really good. I think this is going to be actually pretty good for me.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And Macy's, she's reading quite ahead of her years. How about you? So you said you weren't doing engineering anymore? Yeah, I'm sort of, I've had quite a bit of success with... Finding potatoes. I found it in the community garden down there that, but you can't tell because it's under a building, but I found a nook that you can climb under in this. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:32 You know, so I'm taking home seven eight potatoes a day. Yeah. Oh, cool, yeah. Great. Where did you say that was? Oh, I can't really tell you at the moment because it's a whole survival. We're keeping it under wraps for the time being. Anyway, good luck to you.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Good luck. Good luck with the architecture. Yeah, and yeah. But so, do you say you're working at the moment? Oh, I'm kind of in between stuff at the moment, but you know, really trying to focus on just the day-to-day survival of me and the kids. Because that's what's important, you know? I mean, you can get caught up in career. Yeah. But at the end of the day, you know, what really matters is fleeing from the mind storm.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. And, you know, and the little ones. And keeping gangrene at bay, to me anyway. But that sounds like the architecture is going really good. Yeah, good luck to you with your career. We got some words. We got some words. Oh yeah, I've already written them down. It's from, these come from a listener called, and I apologize, I don't know the last name,
Starting point is 00:42:43 I've never encountered. I'm gonna say James Roy But it's R-O-Y-E Right it could be Ro-ye It could be Ro-he Ro-ya Ro-ya Yeah Ro-ya
Starting point is 00:42:59 Great The James- Thanks James. Thank you James The three words are James, I just want to reassure you that like we might have sounded sad but you're last known, did not make us depressed. It was just a moment in which the sadness that lives within all man got exposed and it just happened to be after we were saying your name. It had nothing to do. I just, if anything, I felt sad for you. Yeah, that people, this is good.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, that people were really misinterpreting how your name probably is pronounced. His three words, and there's a complexity level to it. But here's the three words and there's a complexity level to it. But here's the three words, mid Atlantic pigeon, right? But pigeon, and I think if I've copied it down correctly, the letters P-I-G-E are all caps, but O- N are small.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Mid at L... is mid Atlantic hyphenated? No, there are different words. Mid Atlantic pitch on. Yeah, yeah, pitch on. So it's like pig or pie-john. Piggy on Pig Like but the E is capital as well
Starting point is 00:44:30 So you know, it does have like an app name kind of feel to it. Yeah, or like a you know a company Maybe some kind of company that that establishes itself somewhere between London and New York You know those two powerhouses of cities. Mm-hmm You know Atlantis between London and New York, you know, those two powerhouses of cities. Mm-hmm. Out, you know. Atlantis. Atlantis? Is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is, is it, is it, is it, is, is it, is it, is, is it, is, is it, is it, is it, is, is it, is it, is it, is, is it, is it, is it, is it,? I think it was an island. I think that's how it sank beneath the sea. I know, man.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I mean, not that explains anything. Yeah. But like if you didn't know that islands had bits underneath that hold them up, you could believe that. Yeah. I just assumed that for an, in order for the Greeks or whoever came up with this myth, you know, I just would have had to have been like basically within that bay or something like that, you know. Probably. Yeah, it would have been like a suburb. Right?
Starting point is 00:45:26 That's how small people's lives were at that time. Yeah. I think the idea of like a suburb that is like at Lantis is quite funny, right? Like a suburb in Atlantis. You know, you have your local neighborhood. You've got your Brunswick, you've got your West Brunswick,
Starting point is 00:45:47 these Brunswick, right? The idea that there used to be a North Brunswick, but it sank beneath the waves. And like we talk about this North Brunswick, like it was amazing. Like they had all the best coffee shops, right? And I think what it was is they started to think themselves rivals to the gods, at least in terms of their ability to make coffee.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And as a punishment, North Brunswick was sunken. This is the problem with gods. Yes. They're quite petty. They are. And they won't, even though they probably have no interest in making coffee whatsoever. No, not whatsoever. They probably don't even have an espresso machine, especially not a top of the line one like the people in North
Starting point is 00:46:35 Brunswick. Yeah. Yeah. If you just, it's in a front to them, if you even mentioned that you could be comparable and skill level to them. So. There's a real fable in that, there's a real lesson. Yeah, so I guess. But also, sorry, you were going to say something. No, no, no, so like, is it just that part of the ocean has entered this quite inland area?
Starting point is 00:47:04 I think, I don't know, yeah, I guess, like it's just a section, you know, it's a section of municipal boundary that was defined as North Brunswick, and like people from, from Brunswick, mid-Brunswick or whatever, come out in the morning, and they look up there, and there's just like a sort of a crack in the ground and everything's gone down like a sinkhole.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yeah, and it's salt water and it's salt water. Yeah, so you let's have a roll. There are dolphins in there. Yeah Yeah, and that's how you know it's it's the sea. It's the sea. Yeah, because it's got to be the sea. Absolutely The lost suburb of North Brunswick. Yeah, and maybe there's a few coffee cups and stuff floating around in there. It would be some crockery. It would probably put that in a museum. Yeah. But you know, I wouldn't be surprised if people did actually,
Starting point is 00:47:55 you know, turn that into a great sort of under, under water town that you could actually visit, you know, using some of those sort of clear plastic tubes and things like that. You could go back and experience what it was like to have coffee back and then back before it was underwater, but now it's actually up and running again. It's probably the real estate market there is probably even more expensive now. And I think it's quite nice to have that as like an emblematic of why we shouldn't try and get our coffee too good, because like a lot of places you go, like country towns and that sort of thing, you go and you're like,
Starting point is 00:48:35 this coffee is abysmal. Why don't you spend half a day just getting one of your staff trained to make an acceptable coffee. Like, this isn't even coffee. This is just a cup of flavor. A hot brown. A hot brown. A hot brown. Hot brown wettie.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Yeah, hot brown wettie. And it's hot, wet and brown, and that's all. Right, but maybe it's because these simple country folk have learned from a fable that one should not try and get too close to the gods in one's ability, coffee. And it's us in a city folk who've lost touch with that. Right. And the rules that are there for a reason,
Starting point is 00:49:24 that then whobristically push ourselves to make better and better coffee. And it wouldn't, it would make sense why we don't even have, you know, like their crops do great. And here we don't even bother having crops. Just because the gods are so angry with people in this area, for the people who own coffee shops who are just, you know, tempting fate. We haven't had a good harvest for a really long time.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Do you think, how do you think gods would sense it when something gets close to the quality of something that they would make? I think they probably read Epicure, or like the age good food guide, or something like that. Of course, yeah. And they can have a Google alert. Yeah, and they still go. For the word divine.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah. Positively divine. Yeah. Or a Google alert for two rival the gods themselves all in quotation marks. Oh, we're going to get a pin. And do some smiting. Obviously, we'll go ahead and have some poached eggs and then smiting. And then we'll go down and do some smiting. Obviously we'll go down and have some poached eggs and then do that.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And then smiting. And then smite. I have to carry all that ocean water. Yeah, to spite smite. We'll smite you from spite. Yeah. All right. And then we'll be smitten.
Starting point is 00:50:41 If someone smites you, are you smitten? I think so. It doesn't seem right. If they're smite. To smite someone sounds like, that sounds like a very full-on thing for that person to experience. But to be smitten is almost kind of fun. Or is that what's happening? Are the gods just making us love them? I suppose.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Or else? Through, through, through, uh, unspeakable vengeance. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I suppose, yeah. But is it really love, then, you know? unspeakable vengeance. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I suppose, yeah. But is it really love then, you know? I think we could see, we could see the food review or whoever it is, the critic for the
Starting point is 00:51:16 age good food guide. Writing, having the coffee, loving it, right? And then we see them back at their laptop, typing the words, a coffee to rival the gods themselves, right? And then we see the Google Alert go ping up and email comes into the inbox of Zeus at Zeus underscore 69 at hotmail.com.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And Zeus is obviously, Zeus underscore 69 at hotmail.com Yeah, and and Zeus is obviously well enraged and You know and comes down to earth. I'm gonna say in the form of a Sorn Sorn Yeah, and you know comes into this
Starting point is 00:52:04 This cafe and asks about the coffee. And one of the waiters there says, oh yes, no, no, it's the best coffee around. It's a cup of brown that would make the very lords themselves tremble in fear at the power of man and his awful might and Obviously, this is Erase. Yeah, obviously he has a coffee just as a coffee is trying. Yeah, it's actually you know He's not just it's not just using hyperbole because that's always a risk and then he say a lot of stuff that are front the gods Yeah, hyperbole. Yeah, and then and then he goes and he gets a couple of buckets and he starts
Starting point is 00:52:45 It does it with buckets I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. he's the source of where all that water's coming from. And people try to physically stop him. And it just looks like one of those rugby matches where there's like a six year old who's like the size of an 18 year old man. And all the kids are just hanging off
Starting point is 00:53:16 and trying to stop him. Like that, and he just keeps plowing through like that. And he's just carrying these big buckets and then he pours water. Anyway, eventually the whole town sinks. I guess the foundations of this suburb itself we couldn't and it kind of becomes like a sinkhole. A sinkhole is a very much like is a kind of a localized Atlantis phenomena isn't it? Absolutely. For picking off the individuals. Yeah, it's a micro Atlantis. Yeah, micro Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Or nanominat. You know, usually though, like it doesn't happen under an individual person, I don't think a sinkhole. Like usually it's like half a car on the corner of a house. Yeah, yeah, or like the, yeah, the middle of a road. Yeah, in China. In China, yeah, or like the middle of a road. Yeah, often in China. In China, yeah, or Brazil. Or Brazil. Yeah. I think these are your hot spots.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Wet spots. Yeah, yeah. Is that acceptable, the lost suburb of North Brunswick? Is that a successful sketch for the three suggested words? Oh, I guess it's got the word Atlantic. Pigeon. acceptable sketch for the three suggested words. Oh, I guess it's got the word Atlantic. Atlantic, pigeon. Yeah, I mean, like what's the pigeon thing? P-I-G-E, p-pige or a pigeon.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Well, I'll tell you what it is. We are currently in Brunswick. And I have, for the purposes of just illustrating this in my mind, been picturing the little peacock cafe that's up the road. But what if it was the little pigeon cafe? Okay. But also across the road from the little peacock cafe
Starting point is 00:54:51 up the road, there is a, there is a mechanics that has the worst pigeon infestation I've ever seen in my life. They're like, they're like, their awning thing is collapsing and there's all these exposed rafters. It is full of pigeons and every car that is parked there overnight is just covered in shit. Yeah, absolute feces of fiesta.
Starting point is 00:55:19 So like whatever you take your car in to do, part of the process of having your gearbox retuned is that your car will be utterly shit coated. And presumably they clean that off before they give you your car back, but fuck knows. You know what it could be? Could be good luck. It could. It's really good luck.
Starting point is 00:55:40 What it is is your gearbox, plum out of luck. Anyway, we've got a system now. I just thought of another. Unlike a gearbox syndrome. I've just had a slight idea where, you know, it's a guy who's been lost at sea for seven years and he gets found he's on this raft, but somehow he's survived.
Starting point is 00:56:07 He's really gotten used to this lifestyle. And he comes back to the society that he lives in, probably Brunswick and Melbourne. And he decides to open up a cafe that is sort of mid-Atlantic theme. Yeah, that's good. And he makes the kind of cuisine that he would have eaten. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Yeah. You know, in that way. So he's had long enough out there to develop a regional cuisine. And what are we talking? We're talking scraped hull plankton. Yeah, we're talking... A sun-dried seagull. Yeah, or like floating dead out of the tross.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Like, oh. So it's surfed, the arbitragelloss is served in like a big dish of water. Yeah, big dish of seawater. See water? It's just bloated. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta like just open it up and take all the little bits
Starting point is 00:57:07 of plastic out of its gut and like that. And then you use those as your chopsticks or your skewers. Yeah, there's chopsticks, the chopsticks are in the gut. Yeah. Oh. I think that's great. I've got another idea.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Okay. Right, we were talking about luck before. Guy goes to the doctor. He's diagnosed. He's had a series of minor injuries. And he's diagnosed by the doctor with mild bad luck. And the doctor has to like, like surgically have a bird shit on him or like whatever the things are that you do to treat mild bad luck.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Like a bad luck. So it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it gets mixed up by the nurse. Apply this to your shoulder. Yeah. Oh, you've got to rub it in. It's like a bomb. Yeah. Like that. You just kind of. Oh, and you squeeze it out.
Starting point is 00:58:15 And when it comes out of the tube, it's got a bit of white. Yeah. And then like a bit of black. A bit of white. Like a bit of blue light of black. Essentially toothpaste. It looks like toothpaste but with it. Sloppy white. And looks like toothpaste but with it.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Sloppy white and then like a slightly thicker tubular bit of, looks like brand but black. I'm getting close to having my stomach. I'm turning. You're welcome everybody. Yeah. All right. So we're just hot diagnosed.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Yeah. Yeah. What's the, what's your mid-Atlantic cuisine cafe called? Like, raft. I've got raft diet. Like I've got mid-Atlantic raft diet cafe, but what it would actually be called is... The life raft or something or the life saver or life you know lifeline float floaties how would you like raft check you would you would drink water but it's like it's been filtered through something like t-shirt like yeah but like old cloth. Mm, yeah, but it canvassant. Like a dirty, like, you had dirty canvas filtered seawater.
Starting point is 00:59:31 You're out urine. Yeah, you're on urine. The chef's urine. But would you drink your own urine when seawater was just there? I think it's probably better for you up until a point, like the urine would get pretty tainted, but I think there's so much salt in seawater that there's no value for you in drinking it
Starting point is 00:59:54 because it will dehydrate you further. Just to clear that amount of salt out of you. Just a similar thing would happen if you were lost in an ocean of coffee. Exactly. Yeah. Don't drink the coffee, it'll just dehydrate you. No, but it's actually pretty good. It's actually not too bad. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Do you want to take us through the sketches that we've got so far, Alistair? All right, we got it. What a journey we've been on today, eh? It's been a big journey, Andy. We've got the space station sketch. Now, it's either an allegory of a backpackers. We don't need to go into this, Elisabeth. Or it's a weird spaceship with a Swedish guy
Starting point is 01:00:35 who is a backpacker. Oh, the way, the fact that you put the word allegory in yours and the word weird in mine, I mean, it speaks volumes, doesn't it? Absolutely, Andy. And, you know what, that's, what's the point of power if you don't abuse it? I think it was Abraham Lincoln that said that. Yeah, if you don't abuse it, is it even power or is it just like kindness and good nature? Because what that suggests, what abusing power suggests is that you even have power over the power.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yes. You know, interesting. Yeah. Because if you don't have power over the power, then do you really have power? No. Well, because then it just sounds like you're just a, just another kind of slave. Yeah, you're a slave to your own power. You're a slave to your own power. Simbiotic tongues escape the mouths and start taking over.
Starting point is 01:01:32 It's like, it's like, war the worlds. But instead of having buried aliens, they implanted them in early life and allowed them to kind of evolve with all of life. And then eventually there was a call to action and they became sentient. Maybe they've been sentient the whole time. Maybe it's a bit like it's a sort of toy story scenario. When you're not paying attention, they're actually talking to each other. They've been sleepers, cell, alistair. They've been right under our nose the entire time.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah, a sleeper bunch of cells. Yeah. And maybe we find that one of the ways that we can defeat them is without elbows. Yeah. You know, because we've never previously touched our elbows without our tongues with their elbows. But when they're out of your mouth, you can really pin them down, and they think. And that's why they were kind of controlling how the DNA would deaths,
Starting point is 01:02:30 because they like that's one of our that- and party prizes. Two witnesses. I mean, biting them as well, really. Oh, man. But apparently they heal really quickly. Well, they're like the wolverines of the body. Yeah. We got Independence Day, Alien War Room, but I mean, it could just be Alien War Room. This is, you know, I guess you could look at alien invasion tropes and talk about, you know, why they're doing things, but in this particular case, we're talking about why
Starting point is 01:03:00 blow up the White House when you could blow up something that has a much bigger effect rather than just a symbolic effect. But all that fire was very impressive. Very impressive, very impressive. Bits of stuff went all over the place. Yeah. Good bits of rubble. We got small talk during the invasion, which is kind of would be involved meeting up
Starting point is 01:03:22 with somebody from high school. Yeah, yeah. Trying to make it sound like you're still doing okay, still seeking status in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Also when they blew up the White House, like they got a bang in the middle. Oh, that was, you know, smack bang in the middle. And that would be hard when you're just hovering. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Because I guess there would be also it's a forces, they're quite low altitude. The wind up there would be pretty, would be pretty high. And surely, wouldn't they have gone to the West Wing like the White House? That's the house. But you want to block the West Wing, don't you?
Starting point is 01:04:03 Of the White House, that wouldn't be the middle. That'd be off to the West, presumably, where all the administrative stuff happens. But they don't. No, they go right in the middle. They go right in the middle there, sort of near the front, close to the front lawn, so that people who were visiting the town
Starting point is 01:04:19 can sort of see it and be like, oh wow, they really got a smack bang in the middle of it, like that. I don't know. I don't know. I think the Pentagon would have been a great. Pentagon, yeah, but I don't think a lot of people know what the Pentagon looks like. From the side? Yeah, from the side.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Yeah, that's true. And then the ship would have been hovering above it. So you can't get a bird's eye out. Okay, yeah. And also blowing that right up it right in the middle. That would have just ground. That would have got the core there. Do you think there's a courtyard in the middle of the pentagon? That's what that is. It's a courtyard. It's like you know they've sort of nice tables so that people can go out there and things like that. Yeah. Have a sandwich, walk a dog. Ah man, the smartest
Starting point is 01:05:02 spies just get a hang glider and just fly over that with one of those like, you know, those mini satellite dish-looking things with you. You got your hearing points for listening? Yeah, the smartest spies with their hang gliders over the Pentagon. We got military sports conference after Australia. Yeah, even the Tommy Trance. Yeah, how we justify it to ourselves, Australia. We can't hand losing.
Starting point is 01:05:28 We can't just lose. There's always got to be a reason. We got the lost suburb of North Brunswick, and we have the Mid Atlantic raft diet cafe, and then we have diagnosed with mild bad luck. Rubberch it into your shoulder. Rubbed, shit, into shoulder. Yeah, I mean, that's horrible.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah, that's okay. I mean, now I imagine the shit's been treated in some way. No? You know, all the active ingredients were the toxins, the parasites. It's the awfulness of it that makes it good life. Yeah, it's still got to be awful. Maybe they can concentrate it, make it even more awful. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:17 All right. I guess so then. B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b- You could never understand. Yeah. And that's the sad part about existence. Yeah. But it's good for us because we feel things more deeply. Yeah. But we do have moments of real sadness. Oh, sure. Sure.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Real sadness. Not like the sadness you have. No. Thank you so much. Thank you. And sorry, we said that. You can find us on Twitter at 2 in Tank. I'm at Stupid Old Andy. I'm at Alistair TB, ALAS, D-A-I-R-T-B. Yeah, you've probably been spelling it wrong all this time and that's why he hasn't
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