Two In The Think Tank - 26 - "DOG NEGOTIATOR"
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You're listening to Two in the Think Tank.
Andy and Alistair, thanks for tuning in to the podcast.
It's Tuesday the 17th of Westember.
I'm here with you and it's good to be enjoyed.
God, it's good to be enjoyed. God, it's good to be enjoyed.
I've been enjoyed several times since my youth. And it's a pleasure. Almost every single time
has been nothing but a joy. It has filled me with joy, as the verb states. In joy. Yeah. It has filled me with joy as is the as the verb states.
In joy.
To fill with joy.
And when you enjoy
you are filling yourself
with joy
and possibly others.
Yeah.
You
You're filling others
with joy.
Maybe.
It sounds
yeah.
Alright.
Yeah. At the end of the podcast we shouldn shouldn't say, thanks for listening.
We should say, thanks for enjoying the podcast.
We should say, thanks for having the time of your lives enjoying our podcast.
I don't think that's too arrogant to say. But also, you're saying that they're doing the work, putting the fun into the podcast.
I am.
And people who have listened to the very first episode of the podcast will know what we're talking about.
Because we also discussed the literal meaning of the concept to enjoy something in the first episode.
God, it just feels so long ago, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Like months.
It definitely feels like months ago.
It's good that we're having a callback now.
Do you think we should finish the podcast?
Maybe this is the last episode.
Guys, this is the last episode of the podcast.
We're tying up all the loose ends.
Yeah, we'll tie it up and then...
Although this is like the Arrested Development 14 episodes thing that came out.
Yep.
We're going to tie it up over the course of the remaining episodes.
Yeah.
The next 14 episodes.
The next 14.
Yeah.
This is the beginning of the end.
But also, over the next 14 episodes. The next 14. This is the beginning of the end. But also, over the next 14 episodes,
you're very rarely going to hear me and Alistair
on the same podcast.
In the past, this has been an ensemble thing,
but because of the deal we've got with Netflix,
it's going to be hard to get both of us together
in the same room.
So we're going to focus a lot more
on our individual stories.
Yeah, and like The Maid.
Was The Maid still on there?
Lupe?
What's her name?
Oh, I don't remember her at all.
You know what?
I didn't watch any of the 14 episodes.
You didn't watch any of them?
I haven't watched any of them yet.
Yeah.
Okay.
And yeah, for a long time you were going around aggressively trying not to have them spoiled
for you by people.
And I still will do that.
Yeah.
Why would I want it spoiled?
I think after a certain point you forfeit your right to have it spoiled.
No, you don't. But you clearly don't want to watch the show i do want to watch it got no interest in
it andy i'm super interested if you i'm if you i'm if you're if you're not prepared to put aside
the time to watch even one 23 minute episode or whatever it is of arrested development yeah then
i'm sorry you don't deserve to have surprise in your life. Wow.
Yeah.
In terms of things that are the meanest you've ever said,
how high does that rank?
You don't deserve to have surprise in your life?
Yeah, because I haven't put the time aside to see
Arrested Development, the Netflix series.
Yeah, okay.
It's probably in the top 15 nasty things I've ever said.
Yeah.
If I think about it.
Yeah.
What that truly means, that you don't deserve novelty.
Yeah, I don't deserve to enjoy things because I haven't done them yet.
Yeah.
I think you've got to get your shit together, Alistair.
You've got to sort yourself out.
You're right. You've got to get your shit together, Alistair. You've got to sort yourself out. You're right.
You've got to spoil it for yourself.
Yes, and I also need to, you know...
Hey, look, I thought about this a second ago, before.
Does shitting affect your psychology?
Deeply.
Yeah?
Yeah, I think so.
No, but do you find it clears your head?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Yeah, absolutely. I cannot so. No, but do you find it clears your head? Yeah. Yeah?
Yeah, absolutely.
I cannot think right now.
Yeah. Because I...
I am backed up to here.
Yeah.
And for those listening, I'm indicating to the top of my head.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've got...
I'm turtlenecking, but in the opposite direction.
I'm turtletailing right now.
I'm turtle...
Oh, yeah.
Turtleneck goes...
Turtlenecking?
No, sorry.
Turtle.
I'm just turtling, isn't it?
Turtle necking is a jumper.
That would mean that you had shit wrapped around your neck.
Like really tight all day long.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That'd be weird.
I'm not turtle necking.
I'm turtling.
A turtle head.
I got the peak of a little turd.
Like just up at my epiglottis Just brushing my epiglottis
I mean it's really any turtle limb
Yeah
You know
Because they all go in and out
That's true
They're all very similar
Yeah
I'm turtle limbing
I'm any
I'm turtle appendaging
Yeah
Right now
Doesn't matter what it is
Doesn't matter
You name it
It's poking at me arsehole
Yeah
But I find like
It feels like I've rid my body of poisons
Yeah, right
Sometimes it feels like poison
Yeah, I think like you can get blood poisoning
If you don't
Like if you go long enough without doing a shit
Like, there are
How about there's a sketch about a guy who goes to the doctor
And
The guy's trying to find out what's wrong with him.
And then the doctor goes, oh, you know you have to shit, right?
What?
Yeah.
32 years old.
I'm only just learning.
No, you go to the toilet to pee, right?
It's for peeing.
No.
No.
You also have to shit.
Oh, there's another
thing? Well, how does anybody have any time to do anything? So then this gigantic growth
on my ass is not a growth, it's just a stockpile of things
I haven't got rid of yet.
Yeah.
That's,
like,
what's he been using
his asshole for
if not for shooting?
Let's not speculate.
Well,
maybe he doesn't even know
it was there.
Doesn't even know.
Because when do you
ever get to see it?
Yeah.
If you don't,
if you don't shit,
you've got no reason
to wipe your ass.
Yeah. So your hands would have no reason really to go back there. To go there, yeah. Yeah. If you don't, if you don't shit, you've got no reason to wipe your ass. So your hands would have no reason really to go back. To go there. Yeah. Yeah. And plus,
and plus the more comfortable part to put the rest of your hand is sort of on the cheek.
And so he probably, even if he was headed there at any, at any point, which I'm sure
he would rarely do that. He'd be waylaid by the cheek. Yeah. He'd be like, Oh no, this
is a, I'm happy to stop here.
This is fine here, why would I go on?
Yeah, why would...
I've already reached contentment.
Yeah.
Like people who settled in, like,
I don't know, like Adelaide?
They went, oh, this was good enough?
Yeah.
I mean, I suppose there's no point
going further inland
and seeing if there's anything better.
Exactly.
Like, you know, the pioneers in the Wild West, why did they keep pushing west?
Why didn't they just settle on the east coast?
Yeah.
No, they had to head on into the asshole of the country.
Into the asshole of the country.
Why didn't they just rest on the cheek?
Yeah, they could have, and they didn't.
Cheek of America.
And I'm sure they all feel bad about it.
There's nothing worse than living inland.
Oh.
Yeah, you're absolutely
right. Why
would you ever live inland?
I'm sorry if you're inland and you're
listening to this, but have you guys heard about the coast?
Yeah. I mean, do you guys even
know that you need to shit?
How ignorant are you of
the fundamental
pleasantries of life?
Water.
Enormous bodies of water.
Coolness. Breeze.
Not being covered in dust.
Lower suicide rates.
Yeah, that's probably true.
And that great
feeling of having salt in your hair and it kind of just holds together and makes you look like a surfie.
Yeah.
Guys, you're missing out on all of that.
The coasts, right?
Fish and chips, beach balls, sand in your crotch, you know?
Box jellyfish. You know, like sometimes, because let's say you live inland, people see sand in the house,
they go, what the fuck is with all this sand in the house?
And now I have to spend all this time cleaning it up, right?
But on the coast, sometimes you meet people whose houses, it doesn't even matter if there's
sand in there, because they live so close to the beach, and you never have to clean
it up.
And it's the best.
It's the best, guys.
You don't have to sweep sand out of your house
because you've just resigned yourself to it.
Yeah, and it's great.
It's great.
You just have a little thing set up next to your bed
so that you can wipe your feet before you get,
you know, you just wipe your feet down with your sock
before as you get into bed.
Yeah.
Right?
No sand in the bed.
Sand on the ground doesn't necessarily mean sand in the bed, right?
This is all the kind of good stuff
you can get when you live
on the coast.
Do you reckon we could have a sketch
where the government
just tells people
to move from inland?
Why?
Because it's shit.
Yeah.
Do I have a policy for the bush?
Yes.
What are you doing in the bush?
Sell. Yeah. We'll sell it to chinese interests yeah sure if they you can convince them that it's a good idea well we can okay because because it'll be
the you know it's you know the center of a of america is the asshole of america the center
of australia will be the mouth of China
because that's where
they'll grow all their food
okay
in their mouth
in their
well they haven't
brushed their teeth
for a while
yeah
I mean that's the great thing
about not brushing your teeth
and having all this
kind of like
fungus and bacteria
grow
is that eventually
you'll be able to just
sustain yourself
off of the fungi
like you know you won't have to just sustain yourself off of the fungi.
Like, you won't have to be going around licking rocks to get lichen in your mouth.
People are all about this permaculture and these micro gardens.
Okay, guys, it doesn't get much smaller than the gaps between your molars.
Yeah, absolutely.
And all you need is like a little bit of food to get it started, a little culture going, and just sustains itself and you know eventually your your gums will start rotting away and chunks will fall
in there and that'll keep you going you know and then the thing great thing will be once you break
through the uh the sort of the you know the what's with all the gum flesh is gone. Then your nose and the
mucus will just pour directly onto your
tongue, right, and down the back
of your throat. And so then you'll be able to sustain off of that
as well. You know how many kilojoules
is in a loogie?
Oh, this is the most horrible
discussion I've ever been a part of.
Yeah.
Well, you did one of the worst insults you've ever done.
Oh, I did.
This is great.
We are pushing boundaries.
I think there's...
Is there a Buddhist thing about you should always be surprised?
Is that a thing?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I've never heard that. Okay. That would be a great tenet don't know. I don't think so. I've never heard that.
That would be a great
tenant for a religion.
Yeah.
Always be surprised.
Oh, here's a bowl of rice.
Oh my God,
a bowl of rice.
Well, that's great.
Oh my God.
Mmm, the flavor of rice
is incredible.
Another bowl of rice?
I mean, what are the odds?
Two bowls of rice.
One bowl of rice.
I mean, that was surprising enough. But a second one to come along? I mean, what are the odds? Two bowls of rice. One bowl of rice. I mean, that was surprising enough.
But a second one to come along? I mean,
they say lightning never strikes twice.
But look at this. Two bowls of rice.
A third bowl of... Okay.
Okay, what is this? What is going on? What's great is when you eat it, it makes
you full or something. It makes you feel
like you're not hungry anymore. This is
great. Oh, time
passing. I love that.
Oh, my God.
A dog.
Always be surprised.
Yeah, always be surprised.
Maybe not.
Maybe that was just a joke I read in a book somewhere.
You know, one of those great jokes about Buddhists always being surprised.
But, I mean, that's a fun idea.
That's a religion in there.
Can we...
Because I kind of like that as a little side thing that happens, let's say, in the background of a story.
You know, like stories, right?
Yeah.
They're mostly happening in the foreground.
But occasionally, things come in from the side or background.
Yeah, and are played out.
Yeah, and are played out.
And you kind of, like, you know, they just enter in
and enter out or whatever.
Enter out.
The, yeah,
and I think one idea
that a guy has joined a cult
or religion
where the main tenet
is to be really surprised,
is to be always surprised.
Yeah.
Yeah, the shocked Buddhists. Yeah i i think that's good yeah uh
the and the you know i think we would it would be fun to witness one of their
their uh uh religious ceremonies maybe there's a guy up the front with a book a priest or something
and every time he turns the page he's's like, oh, look at this.
And then he goes on.
And now he's saying something about loving each other.
I did not see that coming.
And the crowd's constantly going, oh.
Oh.
Wow.
Where's he going with this?
Anyway, come back next week.
Who knows what will happen?
Every birthday becomes a surprise birthday party
You guys
You guys didn't come
What?
You guys didn't come to my birthday
Okay
Well it's a surprise birthday
The surprise is nobody came
Yeah
But it's a surprise
That is surprising
I expect I expect a surprise. That is surprising.
I expect a surprise birthday party every year.
That's why every year, every birthday is a surprise birthday because nobody ever organizes a surprise birthday party for me.
This is a thing we were talking just on the previous podcast,
which will not be released.
Yeah, well, it was a previous 15
minutes but i do want to mention this uh we were talking about orchestras and orchestra pits and
how the orchestra pit was invented when somebody put an orchestra in a pit tried to get rid of them
i think they realized the acoustics was really yeah yeah but i think the idea the thing is
uh the discovery that you can't actually get rid of an orchestra.
Because even if you throw them in a pit, it just makes them stronger.
They just thrive in that environment.
In a hole in the ground.
They're like a...
A plant.
Yeah, or like a farm of worms.
Yeah.
You know, you think you can get rid of them by throwing them into some landfill or something like that.
And they just thrive they like i think maybe because putting a you know orchestra thing is a you know like learning to play an instrument like that it's a very solitary
pursuit right and so you put them in a pit and it's like wow like you're you're taking them away
from the regular world and then suddenly this is the place where they've grown.
This is where they've thrived throughout their lives.
It's like putting a bear in a cave.
Yeah, he's going to thrive.
He's going to thrive in there.
Put that bear in a cave and he's going to do all right for himself.
And so then suddenly they're like, I know what to do,
and they start playing.
And then just having the walls that focus focus
the sound you know uh in the in the direction of the hole yeah uh and then it just becomes more
beautiful like uh i want to draw some sort of a parallel between throwing orchestra members into
an orchestra pit and throwing christians to the. Okay? Is that right? Christians to the lions in the Colosseum or something?
See, lions thrive in a pit.
They do.
They're like lions when they have access to Christians.
Access to Christians.
Occasionally, you would throw Christians to the orchestra.
And they tear it apart and they keep playing?
Yeah, exactly.
That's great.
I wonder, like if you were sending people to Mars
on a thing to not come back,
maybe an orchestra.
Because I think they'd just be good at isolating
themselves you know working together yeah they could I think they'd like like
that long periods of time they'd get a lot of practice done yeah by the time
they get there they could they could do the works of Debussy oh yeah or Shostakovich and so they they
could record on the way and so like you know yeah first of all they're good at
passing the time right really well second of all when they interbreed
between them as you know they're bound to right they're gonna be really strict
with their kids and getting them like you know they're the kind of people who
can really get their kids to do stuff.
It's like you have to practice every day.
If we send just regular tradies over there, things like that,
teach your kids to smoke on the way there to Mars,
then everybody will have lung respiratory disease.
Exactly. Wasting precious oxygen. We don't need that.
The orchestra, they will just get better, and the generations to come will be genetically
a lot less diverse, but musically really focused.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, they might be really, they might be diverse, because, I mean, orchestras are very
multicultural.
This might be
a fun sentence.
I don't like to
think of myself
as inbred.
I like to think
of myself as
genetically focused.
Yeah.
I'm narrow
banding it.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm nailing it
down.
It's like a
racing stripe
of genes.
Yeah. Because it is it? Yeah.
Because it's just so thin. It's just like, you know, it's just
thin along the...
That doesn't really make sense. Not really.
That's fine. But it's consistent. Yeah. That's the main thing.
In that it doesn't...
Nothing has made sense. Yeah.
So far I've got
guy who didn't
know he had to shit.
Yep.
And I've also got always be surprised religion.
Could there be a family, like, with the guy who doesn't know he needs to shit? Like, the thing of your debt, like, because sex is a thing that we've decided is awkward in society
and you have to have the talk or whatever where you get it explained to you.
Okay.
Could there be a family or something
where they have to have the talk
where your dad sits you down
and explains to you about shitting?
Because I think shitting is definitely more gross than sex.
Yeah.
Right?
Like...
Yeah, there's like less...
There's less potential for embarrassment
because it's by yourself.
Yeah.
And so you can really spend some time practicing on your own.
But...
But yeah.
Like when boys get to about 12, 13, I mean, a lot of them start to experiment with shitting themselves and they're probably very confused.
Yeah.
But...
Especially because now they've got hair down there.
No, but like, look, I think maybe dad yeah the guy the guy talks to the to the um to the doctor and the doctor's like you have to you don't know about excreting
yeah or whatever how's your stool you go what and then and then he goes well
i don't think i'm the one to talk to you about this.
I'm going to call your parents and let them know.
And then, you know, like this kind of like almost elder looking man.
Yeah.
You know, has to come in and sit on the end of the bed with the guy.
Son, I just, I never got around to it.
Yeah.
And I was too embarrassed.
Yeah.
But you need to shit.
You've got to go poo-poo.
And then he gets them a little, like he explains it to them and everything.
It's got to, like, things are going to come out.
What?
I didn't know it was there.
Yeah, like instead of that thing where, like, you put the condom on a banana or whatever to teach about it.
Like, you unpeel a banana and you push it through.
Yeah, yeah.
Or he's got like a balloon
that he's put an orange in it
and he's just squeezing it out of the...
That would be fun to see like a montage
like without any actual talking
but just of all that the dad
trying to explain the process of shitting
to his son.
Like, I don't know, just like holding up his two fingers, like doing an upside down peace
sign and kind of just like having his other finger go down.
Yeah.
Like that.
Or like, yeah, it starts, it looks like it's a, it's a sex thing.
Like he's putting a finger into, into the hand, like the hand circle, put the finger
in, but then the hand goes through and out the other side, then falls into the hand like the hand so if you put the finger in but then the hand goes through and out the other side
then falls into the football
yeah
actually the thing with the
you know the condom
on the banana
yeah
yeah
that you could just
I guess maybe that's already
what you said
but where you just squeeze the
the condom
the banana back out of the condom
yeah out of the condom
oh it's so gross.
A little montage of that, yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's fun.
Yeah, okay, a montage of Dad, like, put that as the coda, the little epilogue.
Montage.
Oh, epilogue.
Dead.
True.
And, like, maybe he would, like, take him actually to the toilet and, like, lift up
the lid and just show him.
Yeah, get some one of those little pots, potties.ies yeah you can do it in his room i don't know yeah there's a there could
be like a video that he shows him like a like something you would get in sex ed at school
okay not like two girls one cup yes two girls one cup and then and he's like
now
don't do all of this
I just want to show you
what's possible
yeah
like
yeah
but you wouldn't
yeah
like
now
okay
don't do the part
where they put it
in their mouth
that's
I haven't even watched
two girls one cup
no me neither
but two girls one cup
is like
that's a real
those guys are those
girls are they have virtuosos they are real prodigies of weird sex stuff no no that that's
been around for a long while no all right yeah i watched did i tell you about this like oh it's
actually not really that pleasant but i watched a documentary with like the woman, one of the women who was like one of the pioneers of actual scat eating stuff in Germany.
Right.
Yeah.
They called her the woman with the pig stomach.
Anyway, look, there's an interview with her.
It goes for a long time.
It's quite interesting, but it goes for a long time it's quite
interesting but it's pretty disgusting yeah and um you don't see anything but yeah you know what
don't look it up don't you know what no forget it yeah you don't need that you don't need that
in your life if anything i've already done too much i've done like i've done it's like the
opposite of somebody ruining the end of something yeah for you it's like rather like yeah it's like telling you that
it exists and i'm not telling you the end of it and then you go oh well now i'm not gonna enjoy
watching that yeah it's um i tell you that it exists and you go oh now i'm not gonna be able
to enjoy the rest of life because i know about that. Yeah. You've ruined the start of something for me by telling me that it starts.
Yeah.
If you came out and you told me things that didn't exist, I would have been happier.
Andy, these are the videos that don't exist.
There's no documentary about a man who puts whale blubber up his anus.
That's actually really interesting.
What you made me think of while you were saying that was,
it's like, this would be a thing that I would like,
maybe you could do as a bit of stand-up,
but people are always arguing about religion
and stuff like that, and people are like,
stop telling people that God doesn't exist.
You know, it's like, it's not your place or whatever.
Like, that's like, no, no, no.
I would rather be told that things don't exist.
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Yeah, like we're constantly going through life
and finding out about
new things that we don't know about.
The world always gets bigger,
right? And there's always some new
thing that, by the way, there's
also this, and there's also this, and this horrible
thing happens, and this amazing thing happens, and there's
more to learn about this and this and this but there should be a somewhere where you can go
and there's a guy just there who just just just listing stuff that doesn't exist you don't have
to worry about okay it never rains cheesels yeah well that's good okay thank god and you can assure
me of that 100 100 99 We know that with scientific certainty.
Okay?
As much as we know anything, we know that.
As much as we know, yeah, that gravity exists, that there's oxygen in the air,
studies have shown that chisels never fall from the sky.
Okay.
Also, dogs cannot drive.
They can't drive.
Anything?
Anything.
But I saw a dog riding a skateboard once.
But that's riding, isn't it?
That's not driving.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, thank God.
I think...
They can drive cattle.
That's true.
And a hard bargain. Oh. They can drive cattle. That's true.
And a hard bargain.
I sold a couch to a dog on Gumtree.
I did not get what I was hoping to get for that couch.
I mean, he showed up.
And once he was there, I just wanted it gone. And in the end, he gave...
I said, $800.
And he said, nothing. I said, $800. And he said, nothing.
I said, $600.
And he just gave me a blank look.
Yeah.
$200.
Please.
I'll give you $100 and I'll drive it to you.
A dog who's really good at negotiating is fantastic.
A dog who just stares at you.
Like, he doesn't talk at all and he just looks at you and you just he just bargains you down
that's great can we have that as a sketch yeah that they send in the negotiator yeah
yes we can yeah absolutely also uh possibility for an expansion or alternative to that is people have a helper dog, right?
A dog who helps them with stuff in their lives, like picking up the phone and stuff.
That's a thing, right?
Maybe.
But I'm just picturing it going, ha-ha.
And then walking over to you like yeah
because somehow you're sitting down but you've just got the phone over there can't we get a dog
to do this can't someone and a government agency spend months training a dog to pick up the phone
for me. Yeah.
Government agency.
It's a committee came up with that.
We could have moved the chair closer to the thing, but yeah.
Let's just train a dog to get the phone.
We could move the table or we could train a dog.
Train a dog.
If we don't spend this money next year, we't get it yeah but then like in a
some kind of a corporate type environment where there's like a
corporate helper dog and he does filing for you or something and stapling
stapling can you work a staple remover
like one of those things
I feel like dogs mouths
are very close to being
a staple remover
aren't they
yeah
we just made staples
slightly larger
I heard of those
German Shepherds
I mean this is a myth
that they
some police dogs
they really
remove their teeth
and exchange them
with titanium teeth
I don't think it's even a myth I don't think that's even made it to be a myth remove their teeth and exchange them with titanium teeth.
I don't think it's even a myth.
I don't think that's even made it to be a myth yet. Why do I have that in my mind?
Did I dream that?
No way.
Actually, I do have visuals in my mind.
It could be completely a dream.
Yeah, it seems unlikely.
But if you did do that,
then the dog can completely remove staples
With his teeth
Yeah, and staplers
There's a staple remover
There's a staple
There's a staple remover
There's a stapler remover
And there's a staple remover remover
Yeah, I like the idea of a stapler remover
Yeah
And it's another big metal thing
You pick up the stapler
And then take it to your desk.
Yeah.
Write it down.
The stapler remover.
Stapler.
I don't know if there's...
It's not really so much a sketch, is it?
No.
Well, maybe it is.
It's a tiny visual.
It's a tiny little sketch, yeah.
Yeah.
One of the smallest. A sketchette. It's a tiny visual. It's a tiny little sketch, yeah. Yeah. One of the smallest.
A sketchette.
Oh.
Right?
Yeah.
You like that?
Yeah.
We're branching out.
Micro.
Nano sketch.
We're creating subcategories of sketch
that you didn't even know existed.
Well, that's the thing.
You keep going down and down and down.
There's always a smaller sketch.
I wonder what the smallest unit of sketch is.
Could be.
The smallest unit of comedy is probably the fart.
Maybe.
Can you think of anything that's simpler than a fart
that would make you laugh?
Hesitation?
Just a pause.
But that requires so much context.
Yeah.
I think just hesitation in isolation.
Yeah.
If you saw someone hesitate in space,
I was trying to put the hesitation in a vacuum.
Right.
But then space is so vast that it's hard for it to be nothing.
I mean, it's a lot of nothing, if anything.
But I would say that space is definitely a context. Yeah. If anything. But I think, I would say that like space is definitely a context.
Yeah.
No, I know.
For the purposes of comedy.
But in terms of density.
Yeah.
Context density.
Like it's, yeah.
It's got less context
per square,
per cubic meter.
Yeah.
Than anywhere else.
It's as close as we're going to get
to an absolute context list.
But like, yeah,
but I guess a context out of I don't know far
out of context like I think it's gonna be funny yeah okay yeah all right
small strange isn't it okay I'd like to see what about a snot bubble?
It's more gross than anything.
Yeah, yeah.
I think... But the thing about hesitation,
I think it would be fun
watching a sketch show,
okay,
and then there's just a cutaway
to just a guy going,
just hesitating slightly.
Yeah.
I think people would laugh at that
yeah
yeah
like
because yeah
especially with
with most
pre-recorded
shows
yeah
or all pre-recorded
sort of scripted shows
you don't see a lot of hesitation
with what's going to come next
that's the kind of thing
that they would probably
try and cut out
yeah a lot of hesitation with what's going to come next. That's the kind of thing that they would probably try and cut out. Yeah.
You could do vox pops.
Yeah.
And like you only put in the bit at the start
where people are
just about to say something.
Just thinking.
Or you give them a choice
between two things
and they have to
just take the part
where they're deciding.
That would be really funny to just get a really quick glimpse of people on the street being presented with two options and hesitating as they're about to choose.
Because the options are so completely different.
So one is an orange and one is a steamroller and they're just there, A and B.
And you just see them going, ah.
Yeah. and one is a steamroller, and they're just there, A and B, and you just see them going, ah. Yeah, or something like one thing is really good,
and one thing is like one's a wad of cash,
and the other one is like, you know.
A squashed rat.
Yeah, or like a steaming pile of crap.
Sure.
Yeah.
And, you know, I know money is really dirty
and it has a lot of fecal matter on it.
So maybe that's where the hesitation is.
But I think it would be just great to get shots of people
picking up the money whilst looking at the steaming pile.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I think that's definitely a thing.
And I think you could write that down
as just like the Vox Pop, like, really ridiculous choice scenario.
And it's just such a short thing.
And it's just that moment of them thinking about it.
And the audience is left to consider why are they being given this choice?
And why do they hesitate at all?
Like, why is there any uncertainty in their minds?
Yeah.
So there are the two options, two ways of going with it.
Your one, which is the really good thing
and the really bad thing.
And then my one, which is just the two things
which are like, it's impossible to say
why you would be given a choice
between those two things.
Yeah, it's like just asking somebody,
what do you prefer, caramel or like...
Tuesdays.
Yeah, sky.
I love that stuff. Yeah, Sky. I love that stuff.
Yeah, that's really cool.
There's something to me about like, yeah,
about, right, a bog.
I mean like...
The early works of Hitchcock.
Yeah.
Salad tongs or a block of pavement.
Yeah.
You've got no,
we've got no criteria for judging that,
right?
Yeah.
Like it's,
it's not possible.
It's contextless.
Cause it's not even a,
like a,
a would you rather,
right?
Like a would you rather is,
well,
okay,
well then you can say one is useful.
What do you choose? But like, what do you rather is, well, okay, well then you can say one is useful. What do you choose?
But like, what do you prefer?
It's really like exercising choice.
Yeah, but...
You're just choosing.
But you would not evolve for that kind of choice.
That's never...
Like, which one do you choose?
Based on what?
Based on these two options.
Based on the options and like what questions there's there's
no questions you could ask yeah because you know what salad servers are you know what a block of
pavement is there's no more information just which do you prefer yeah that's yeah that's fun
that's that's really silly um i saw a really good bit of comedy the other day.
Oh, yeah.
Which was just, like, Ricky Gervais, the way that he's got Carl Pilkington is just, it's just such a goldmine.
Because he, so what it was that they did, and my parents sent me this, and I was like,
fuck, my parents sent me something that I thought was a genuinely great piece of comedy all it is well what it is it's
just he there's Ricky Ricky set it up that it's him and Carl and that they're
gonna be doing language classes so it's gonna be for people to watch and they're
gonna be teaching people who are international or you know speak English
were English right but there's no like, so they're like,
so yeah, this is what we're doing.
There's no structure at all.
Nothing at all.
And so then they go, like, watch.
Or no, he starts by just annoying.
He goes, bald.
His head looks like an orange.
Carl is bald.
He is bald.
He's got a big egg head.
He's like, why are you telling him that?
Why do they need to learn that?
You've got to teach him something, like, something, like, why are you telling them that? Why do they need to learn that? You've got to teach them something practical.
Yeah.
And it's just great.
Because he just goes with it because he's an idiot.
Yeah.
Because he just thinks this is genuinely what he's doing.
Yeah.
And he deals with it for what it is.
Yeah.
Like, in the moment, exactly what is coming at him.
Like, there's no other levels.
There's no irony or subtlety or anything.
It's just, this is what I'm being presented with.
This is my opinion on it.
Why would you do that?
Yeah, there's just a slight thing missing.
And it's just, ah, it's so good.
Like, what a gem that he's found.
It's like he's brought this guy
who's a complete outsider to the comedy world.
And he will just take everything at face value.
And then, like, it just allows him to, like,
just to be, he's completely himself.
Yeah.
Like, and that's what we're just loving.
Like, it's just, and all his justifications for everything
are so stupid.
Like, but they all have a logic.
And it's just, oh.
Anyway, so if anyone wants to watch something that's really funny yeah yeah um the the there's this is somehow my mind has gone
to this yeah but like the idea of um government being forced with forced to make these kinds of
choices like not not maybe not quite the thing about, like,
would you rather, like, pavement or salad tongs?
But, like, we've definitely got things in our lives
which are like, you know, the national emblem
or the floral emblem.
We've got this numbat or this flower, right,
as being the symbol of our state or our country.
So, like, would it be fun to just see a section of the parliamentary discussion
where they're trying to work out what is Australia's favourite colour
or what we like about this or that?
What's our favourite thing?
This is the thing we started.
It's kind of like a thing we discussed in the past
about having this idea of a kind of like a thing we we discussed in the past about having like
this idea of a sort of like that that that 2020 summit or not a thing that they were that they
had set up or whatever the government where it's like we're gonna have like people from a cross
section of the community sitting around and making decisions about australia's kind of future and
things like that like you know uh they got okay we got to come up with a new uh or we got a national
anthem yeah or yeah aust or Australia's favorite color.
Yeah.
And just the discussions that would go behind that, I find that would be great.
Yeah.
Because all arguments are going to be so silly.
Yeah, and so personal and divorced from reality.
And, you know, there's a chance it would be satire, but I don't see that as being essential to it.
No, yeah.
It's mostly just silly.
Yeah. Right? Can I write that down?
Even though it's a thing we kind of worked on with other people
before. Is it? I don't remember
that at all. That was the thing we did with Ollie
and...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We were talking about a think tank that would
just be confronted with
bizarre
scenarios that they would have to try and solve.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, okay, so...
That's right.
Oh, this is something different.
Yeah, but like, oh, this person is coming to town, you know, from overseas.
Let's say...
You know, let's say...
Andre Rieu?
Andre Rieu.
Yeah.
He's coming, and we've got to give him a present.
Australia's got to give him a present.
Yeah, okay.
What is Australia going to get him?
Get him as a gift, like that.
That's really good.
Yeah.
At the end of the episode, do we give him a voucher?
Yeah, like, yeah.
A sanity voucher.
By the way, that was a great joke when you did that on stage.
Oh, thanks.
The $20 sanity voucher. By the way, that was a great joke when you did that on stage. Oh, thanks. The $20 sanity voucher.
Yeah, it was the...
The Guinness Book of World Records actually holds the world record
for the least imaginative gift to give a 13-year-old boy
ever since the demise of the $20 sanity voucher.
Look, from my years of living in Australia, which is 16,
that really touches the
foundations of what I know
about what it is to be Australian.
It's all in there.
Sanity, vouchers,
going in there, looking through
their t-shirts.
Can we get maybe
a voucher voucher? Like a voucher that
you can use to buy any voucher.
Yeah, because that way, you know, because you want the person to spend money at a shop.
Yeah.
Right.
But sometimes it's too difficult to say which shop.
Yeah, because you don't want him spending it, you know, giving it to homeless people or, you know, dropping it.
Yeah.
you know, dropping it.
Yeah.
I think that there are vouchers that like you can get
where you can use it at Kmart
or at Woolworths
or like, you know,
it's just anything
within this conglomerate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Westfield type ones.
So like, yeah,
you can get a Westfield thing
and then it's just like
anything within Westfield
which goes, you know.
I don't want to tell you
which shop to buy it in,
but I do want to tell you
which complex
you're going to go and buy
your birthday present.
It just felt rude
giving you like a wad of cash,
$300.
I'm just narrowing it down
to a particular
geographical region.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm only going to buy you
a Fitzroy voucher.
You can buy something
anywhere in Fitzroy.
All right.
You can...
Okay, how about this?
A voucher,
you can only buy blue things.
You can spend it anywhere,
but the thing has to be blue.
Yeah. Yeah. Just a to be blue. Yeah.
Just a voucher
shop. Yeah, just more elaborate vouchers.
Yeah, I like that a lot.
More elaborate.
It's such an offensive
idea, the voucher.
Isn't it? Is it offensive?
I don't know, but it's just
the essence of laziness.
Which is fine.
I've bought people vouchers in the past, and I've received vouchers and been happy.
But you realize that you're giving me a little token of your laziness or exactly how little you know me, right?
Like the more general the voucher, the less you know the person you're giving it to.
Sorry, here we go.
Thank you for filling that time while I also wrote down.
You also wrote down the thing about the Australia trying to...
Yeah, I wrote, Australia think tank, Andre Ryu is coming.
What are we going to get him as a present?
I think, yeah.
I know we have talked about it in the past, but I think we can do that.
And I think that's a really fun little format for trying to come up with.
Yeah.
Just squeeze out a bit of comedy.
We just need ourselves a boardroom.
That's all we need to film that.
And then it could be like the Puddin' strip.
Like you just have them go for a bit longer.
But I'm like working this out.
Longer than Puddin'.
Longer than Puddin'.
Which is a thing that you should all watch on YouTube if you haven't already seen it.
Eddie Pepitone.
Eddie Pepitone.
And Matt Oswald.
Matt Oswald, who's Patton Oswald's brother.
Yeah.
If you're a comedy lover.
And there's going to be like, there's probably hundreds now.
Not hundreds.
Maybe 100.
No, I would say there's hundreds.
Hundreds of episodes.
I think they release one a day, don't they?
No, they don't.
Yeah.
Really?
I think so.
Oh, my God.
That's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're so funny.
They're great.
They're great.
It's a video comic strip.
They'll probably go for 25 seconds at the most.
Mm-hmm.
Maybe.
And you will love it.
You'll love it.
There's a lot of screaming.
Yep.
You'll love it.
There's a lot of screaming.
That's great. Yeah. It's right lot of screaming. Yep. You'll love it. There's a lot of screaming. That's great.
Right up your alley.
Yeah.
Screaming right up your alley.
I know.
It's straight away that the imagery that came into that was just...
Yeah, screaming in an alleyway.
Oh, no.
I pictured something going up somebody's body cavity, and then they screamed.
Oh, no.
That's horrible.
Yeah.
I was just picturing someone screaming in an alleyway.
That could never be interpreted in a bad way.
You are sticking things up, people.
No, Alistair, I was just talking about screaming in an alleyway.
Could not be more diverse.
Divorced.
Divorced.
Divorced.
And diverse.
Diverse.
I think we've got enough sketches.
Yeah, look, and it's been a really fun episode.
It's been a great fun episode.
I've had a good time.
I've been enjoying myself constantly.
Consistently.
Tantly.
Somehow, somebody should marry the words constant and consistently.
Constancestly.
Constancestly.
It is constant and it is consistent.
It's constanston.
Constanston.
Constanston.
That's the worst word ever Well there you go
Can we get Constunstant
In the dictionary
Constunstantly
I don't see any reason
Why we can't all agree
That we want at least
One word in the dictionary
As a joke
Yeah
Just one
Just the ugliest word
Like you know
We've got ugly dog contests
What about
You know
What about the grotesque guys
But I would love
That the definition there
Would be there like
Constant
Adjective Both consistent And constant nb the ugliest word
in the english language it's beautiful uh okay take us through the sketches we've done so far
today well today we got seven we got seven you know a lot of like little little tiny ideas you
know okay we got a guy who didn't know he had to shit. We're picturing
he's 32, he's at the doctor's trying to figure out what's wrong.
And then there's
also a montage, so the
doctor sends him home and there's a montage of his dad
trying to explain it to him,
how it works and what happens.
Number two, we've got
a religion where
one of the tenets is that you should always
be surprised.
They always be surprised religion. I don't think it's tenets is that you should always be surprised. Sure.
Yeah, the always be surprised religion.
I don't think it's tenets, by the way.
I think it's just tenets.
Tenet.
There you go. But if somebody moves into that, you know, somebody should join the word tenet and tenant together.
Tenet.
Tenet.
Tenet.
Tenet.
Tenet.
Tenet. To tenet.ent. Tenent. Tenent. Tit.
Ten.
To Tenent. To Netent.
To Netent.
To Netent.
Keep going.
Send in the dog negotiator.
Yeah.
So we get a dog who goes in to negotiate.
Yeah.
All sorts of things.
That's great.
Probably be wearing
a little...
It's almost like
Inspector Rex, right?
Yeah.
Instead of being
the guy who solves
the crimes,
he's the hostage negotiator.
Yeah.
Yeah, and also
he...
People like...
He gets really good deals
on consumer electronics.
Yeah, obviously that as well. consumer electronics. that as well.
Yeah.
Obviously that is.
Yes, yes, of course.
We've got the
stapler remover.
Yep.
So that's the
sketchette.
That's the world's
first sketchette even
though there's been
millions of sketchettes
in the past.
This is the first one
that's been labeled
that.
I'm going to Google
sketchette later.
We've got five which is the Vox Pop really ridiculous choice segment.
So do you want a gallbladder?
No, no, no.
Which one do you choose?
A gallbladder or this tennis racket grip?
More elaborate vouchers.
So you can have vouchers for all sorts of
all sorts of shit there.
You know like
you can only
okay
oh I got you a
$25
voucher
for something blue.
Yeah for something blue
or
or something
that is nice to the touch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then also
we've got Australia
Australia think tank Andre Ryu is coming.
We're going to get him as a present.
You like soft things, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I got you a voucher for something soft.
Soft, soft.
I know you like soft stuff.
Yeah, I know.
Look, remember we were at Kmart and you were feeling that teddy bear and you said,
it's so lovely and soft.
I love this texture.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, I got you a voucher for something soft.
Yeah, very specifically soft. I love this texture. Yeah. Well I got you a voucher for something soft. Yeah, very specifically soft. It has to be sort of below a certain density. It's
got a little sample John Cage-ier
You think?
Yeah, John Cage-ier
John Cage-ier
Is that John Cage?
That was him
Yeah, you know what also is John Cage?
What's that?
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