Two In The Think Tank - 497 - "TWO IN THE THINK TANK, LIVE"
Episode Date: October 13, 2025Two in the Think Tank was recorded LIVE in at Humdinger Studios in Brunswick, Melbourne. Endless thanks to Humdinger and all the Long TitTTers who bought tickets, showed up, or otherwise supported the... podcast.And thanks to everyone who has ever listened. We love you.See you (online) next weekend for the 500th episode, starting 8AM Sunday the 19th of October, 2025, Melbourne time. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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                                        claim that they started out not thinking about getting an audience. But very few can claim to
                                         
                                        have maintained that philosophy for 500 episodes. Two in the think tank is such a podcast, but no clear
                                         
                                        improvement in ability, a rare downward trend in audio quality, and a seeming complete inability
                                         
                                        to come up with and stick to a single running joke. These two mavericks have bucked every
                                         
    
                                        trend that has seen podcasts generally become the massive success that they are today.
                                         
                                        but to their credit the creators have stayed true
                                         
                                        to the original concept of the podcast
                                         
                                        a long-term longitudinal study of the effects
                                         
                                        of different types of tiredness on the human brain
                                         
                                        both on a minute-to-minute level
                                         
                                        and then in a sort of deeper, more fundamental way
                                         
                                        over decades.
                                         
    
                                        Nevertheless, a small core of dedicated A-listeners
                                         
                                        have stuck with this show
                                         
                                        much like a dear friend would linger
                                         
                                        by the bedside of a dying man.
                                         
                                        And now, that relationship is about to be taken
                                         
                                        to the next level as Andy and Al
                                         
                                        attempt to take something the head,
                                         
                                        have previously only done privately in a small room
                                         
    
                                        and now do it publicly for people to see,
                                         
                                        like taking your first shit in an experimental open-planned toilet.
                                         
                                        Who knows if they will be able to perform?
                                         
                                        Please welcome to the stage,
                                         
                                        Andy and Alistair George William Trombley Birchall.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        Hello and welcome to Two in the Think Tank Live.
                                         
                                        The show, oh, I'm Andy.
                                         
    
                                        No, wait, the show where we come up with five sketch ideas.
                                         
                                        I'm Andy.
                                         
                                        And I'm Alistair, George William, Trombly Virtual.
                                         
                                        Thank you so much for being here, everybody.
                                         
                                        Oh, I'm new to you.
                                         
                                        I don't know what gets a slap.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        this genuinely is my fear Alastair
                                         
    
                                        that it might not be possible to do this podcast live
                                         
                                        because
                                         
                                        I feel like you should have told me this
                                         
                                        at least a few weeks ago
                                         
                                        or we should have made it clear on the website
                                         
                                        when people were ordering tickets
                                         
                                        Oh that like we might just have to cancel three minutes in
                                         
                                        It might not work. It might not work
                                         
    
                                        It might be nothing. Yeah
                                         
                                        I mean that's fine. That's okay
                                         
                                        That's okay. That actually is a huge weight off
                                         
                                        mind. That's great. I mean, I think I have heard it's a great thing to sort of voice everything
                                         
                                        that you are worried about. I've heard this too. Is there sketching that? Yeah, I think
                                         
                                        there absolutely could be. Yeah. Okay. It's a guy. It's also, yeah, okay, who's struggling
                                         
                                        at work. Yes, right? And he's got a bit of performance anxiety before a presentation to a board.
                                         
                                        A board, maybe.
                                         
    
                                        A board.
                                         
                                        Yeah?
                                         
                                        Yeah, like not a wood, not a wooden plank.
                                         
                                        But imagine if it was.
                                         
                                        It's too silly even for this.
                                         
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
                                        No, no, no, no, but it distracts from the main idea.
                                         
                                        But it is true that they do sit around like a big boardroom table, which is basically a big wooden plank.
                                         
    
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        I mean, they talk about the board, but are they described...
                                         
                                        Okay, I know this is really stupid, okay?
                                         
                                        But when they're talking about the board, they are referring to the people.
                                         
                                        but are they called the board because they're around a big plank of wood?
                                         
                                        I think it's entirely possible.
                                         
                                        Is that what it is?
                                         
                                        It's like the board is itself the table.
                                         
    
                                        The board is the table.
                                         
                                        The board is the table.
                                         
                                        That's the real power behind the throne.
                                         
                                        It transfers its name.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        By the transitive property.
                                         
                                        To the people who are there.
                                         
                                        And then they get the authority that kind of wood carries.
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        You know, like the authority of a tree,
                                         
                                        the sort of the gravitas, the dignity, the stability, the strength, yeah.
                                         
                                        In Australia, people seem to be always afraid that a tree is going to fall in their house.
                                         
                                        I haven't seen that in any other country.
                                         
                                        They trust trees in other countries.
                                         
                                        I've traveled the world a little bit recently, and this is what I've come back with.
                                         
                                        It's the uniquely Australian character.
                                         
    
                                        We're laricans.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        We've got the deadliest spiders on Earth.
                                         
                                        where the only country
                                         
                                        that is also an island
                                         
                                        that people think is a continent
                                         
                                        the people living...
                                         
                                        Have we talked about this on the podcast?
                                         
    
                                        Okay, I think that...
                                         
                                        I think that...
                                         
                                        So we have changing topics so fast.
                                         
                                        We're going to go back to this stuff.
                                         
                                        We're going to get back to that board stage.
                                         
                                        Oh, we are going to tie up every loose end.
                                         
                                        Don't you worry about it?
                                         
                                        If you see a dangling thread,
                                         
    
                                        that's about to be woven...
                                         
                                        Trust me, that's going to be a beautiful carpet suit.
                                         
                                        Oh, yes.
                                         
                                        And a carpet, not a rug.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I'm so glad you clarified
                                         
                                        and I think the audience is as well
                                         
                                        yeah okay
                                         
    
                                        so I think
                                         
                                        because when you're in Australia
                                         
                                        people say ah the island continent
                                         
                                        we're the only country that's also a continent
                                         
                                        I think that it is only Australians
                                         
                                        that think that Australia is the continent
                                         
                                        and I think that the continent
                                         
                                        everywhere else is Oceania
                                         
    
                                        and
                                         
                                        the reason why that makes sense
                                         
                                        is because then there's all those other countries
                                         
                                        that are a part of the continent
                                         
                                        that are not excluded from the continent
                                         
                                        because New Zealand would never say
                                         
                                        ah yes, we are part of the continent of Australia
                                         
                                        No, they would not
                                         
    
                                        No, it would be embarrassing to them
                                         
                                        It would degrade them
                                         
                                        What they would say is that we're part of the continent of Aussie
                                         
                                        Remember how they were, forget it, all right
                                         
                                        Aussie
                                         
                                        Okay, now what was the last trait
                                         
                                        We're going back, we're starting to go with those threats
                                         
                                        Oh wow, picking it up
                                         
    
                                        The last trait back in
                                         
                                        The last trait that Australians are known for?
                                         
                                        They're afraid that trees are going to fall on their house.
                                         
                                        Yes, well, because very often that houses are made from dead trees.
                                         
                                        And so the trees are sort of what attacking them to say you don't make shit out of us, mate.
                                         
                                        I mean, they'll kill themselves, like a sort of kamikaze.
                                         
                                        Camacazi, yes, ah, but then in the...
                                         
                                        ultimate irony.
                                         
    
                                        We cut that tree up and use it to make a house.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        Underneath another...
                                         
                                        Another beautiful oak.
                                         
                                        Beautiful, well, probably a eucalypt.
                                         
                                        I think the fact is that eucalypts are a sort of a kamikaze species.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they do love to drop a branch.
                                         
    
                                        They love to drop a branch.
                                         
                                        Okay?
                                         
                                        They love to be burned to death so that their young can thrive.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's true.
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
                                        Okay, I'm going to drop some eggs, and I want you to roast the fuck out of those eggs.
                                         
                                        Oh, those eggs.
                                         
                                        And then they'll release their young.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, well, I'm going to...
                                         
                                        Oh, maybe that's a waddle.
                                         
                                        Is that a waddle?
                                         
                                        Am I thinking a waddle?
                                         
                                        What am I thinking of?
                                         
                                        You might be thinking of a bansia.
                                         
                                        Baxia.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
    
                                        They got that little mouths.
                                         
                                        They got the little mouths.
                                         
                                        It looks like they got like a stick of clams like that, and they're like, but inside instead of a delicious, salty,
                                         
                                        sludge
                                         
                                        we got
                                         
                                        the seat of a tree
                                         
                                        exactly right
                                         
                                        I mean the
                                         
    
                                        God only had
                                         
                                        two or three ideas
                                         
                                        and he recycled them
                                         
                                        in different formats
                                         
                                        yes clam
                                         
                                        snot
                                         
                                        the two closest things
                                         
                                        you could have said
                                         
    
                                        well because
                                         
                                        the contents of the clam is the snot
                                         
                                        okay right right
                                         
                                        but then he was like
                                         
                                        you know but then it was like
                                         
                                        well I need something to
                                         
                                        put in human noses, which, by the way, has anybody talked about long COVID?
                                         
                                        I think I have long COVID, but only in the sense that my nose is always lined with snot.
                                         
    
                                        This is a disgusting thing to talk about, and I really deeply regret it.
                                         
                                        I mean, your nose, the clam of the face.
                                         
                                        No question.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Well, would you prefer muscle? Is it muscle is a more sort of an oceanic term, right?
                                         
                                        oceanic
                                         
                                        we don't say clam down here
                                         
                                        is that what you're saying
                                         
                                        I don't know yeah
                                         
    
                                        I don't think it's very
                                         
                                        I'm bringing these North American
                                         
                                        roots back to here
                                         
                                        and it's spoiling the podcast
                                         
                                        well no I mean like
                                         
                                        the podcast has always been about
                                         
                                        comparing cultures I think
                                         
                                        and you know this really
                                         
    
                                        interesting exploration of like
                                         
                                        oh what's it like over there
                                         
                                        yeah yeah
                                         
                                        and it used to be
                                         
                                        what's it like over there in Ballarat
                                         
                                        or
                                         
                                        or you know
                                         
                                        on the other side
                                         
    
                                        of the warehouse that we both...
                                         
                                        On the other side of the warehouse, yeah.
                                         
                                        How's it been in that bit?
                                         
                                        All so dark and moldy?
                                         
                                        Oh, see, we're not so different.
                                         
                                        And that brought people together.
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        But now it's really like, you know,
                                         
                                        we've taken that almost as far as we can go.
                                         
                                        I didn't bring a pad to write any ideas down.
                                         
                                        And we've had so many.
                                         
                                        Well, I mean, we got that loose thread that I'm going to get back to.
                                         
                                        This genuinely is the case.
                                         
                                        that we do maybe one or two things on this podcast
                                         
                                        and we get them wrong every single time.
                                         
    
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
                                        And what I was realizing on the way here today
                                         
                                        is that I think on this podcast,
                                         
                                        we're both the disorganized one.
                                         
                                        Like in most comedy duos,
                                         
                                        there's one person is the organized person.
                                         
                                        And I think the other problem is
                                         
                                        that I think I'm the organized one.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And I'm not.
                                         
                                        Because you're the like slightly less dumb one?
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        You know, and that makes it seem like there's organization there.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, they've got a less done one.
                                         
                                        He must be the organized one.
                                         
                                        But those two things don't necessarily, like they're not necessarily linked.
                                         
    
                                        You know, correlation does not imply causation.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        We know that.
                                         
                                        So now there's a, so he's in front of a board and it's a board of people.
                                         
                                        But just because correlation...
                                         
                                        Hang on.
                                         
                                        but just because correlation doesn't imply causation
                                         
                                        doesn't mean necessarily
                                         
    
                                        that every time there's
                                         
                                        he's going to get this
                                         
                                        I'm the slightly less dumb one
                                         
                                        if I can't do this nobody can
                                         
                                        like this is not going to get done
                                         
                                        no okay
                                         
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
                                        But the thing is, Alistair is the most disorganized person I've ever met,
                                         
    
                                        but only because I've never met me, right?
                                         
                                        And so by being so disorganized and thinking I am organized,
                                         
                                        Alistair has been forced to become a more organized person.
                                         
                                        That's why you bought all the hats.
                                         
                                        When I had ordered the hats, my wife was like,
                                         
                                        I did not think you would be able to do this.
                                         
                                        She was like, when she got, when she saw that sample that they sent me,
                                         
                                        she was like, I can't believe you did that.
                                         
    
                                        She, like, you know, I am impressing people at the moment.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's the beauty of setting the bar so low.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, mate.
                                         
                                        Set in the bore.
                                         
                                        Boar.
                                         
                                        But when you did that, you know what I thought?
                                         
    
                                        What?
                                         
                                        I could have done that.
                                         
                                        And I couldn't.
                                         
                                        That's the thing.
                                         
                                        And that's why
                                         
                                        that's our special source.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        What's our special sauce?
                                         
    
                                        You know how like, I guess,
                                         
                                        you know, too strong,
                                         
                                        one strong thing can prop up a not strong thing.
                                         
                                        Like a bent piece of paper?
                                         
                                        Holding up a book?
                                         
                                        I don't think so.
                                         
                                        Like a cooked noodle holding up an uncooked noodle?
                                         
                                        No, those are both examples of not strong things, holding up a strong thing.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I thought that's what you said.
                                         
                                        I have no idea.
                                         
                                        I have no idea what I said.
                                         
                                        But the point is, I think that we're both two not strong things.
                                         
                                        Sort of like, like...
                                         
                                        Are we coming up with five truths today?
                                         
                                        Andy's talking like we're about...
                                         
                                        Today we're wrapping up the podcast,
                                         
    
                                        so we don't have to do the 500th episode next week.
                                         
                                        I feel like that we have to have some kind of accountability.
                                         
                                        You know?
                                         
                                        Like, I feel like we owe these people an explanation.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Now that you're here, all right, I'll be honest.
                                         
                                        It has been terrible.
                                         
                                        whole time. Listen, when you
                                         
    
                                        start listening to a podcast
                                         
                                        that nobody else listens to
                                         
                                        you're like, oh, you know
                                         
                                        what, I'm going to stick with this because then
                                         
                                        one day when it's big, I'll be able to say
                                         
                                        I used to listen to that years ago and these people
                                         
                                        have been doing that for a decade
                                         
                                        some of them, right?
                                         
    
                                        And it hasn't got big and it
                                         
                                        hasn't got good and it hasn't... It's bigger than
                                         
                                        it seems in this room. It's bigger...
                                         
                                        It also hasn't even become
                                         
                                        something that you can confidently share
                                         
                                        with anybody else in your life.
                                         
                                        Okay?
                                         
                                        Because it's like the Fermi paradox, right?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, you're right.
                                         
                                        We do.
                                         
                                        We need to apologize to everybody.
                                         
                                        It's like why haven't aliens made it to Earth, okay?
                                         
                                        Well, it's because there are so many barriers that they would have to get through.
                                         
                                        Oh, no, it's not Fermi paradox.
                                         
                                        It's the filter.
                                         
                                        It's the great filter.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        That they've got to overcome all these different things.
                                         
                                        Great filter coffee.
                                         
                                        Is that anything?
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Here we go.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        You talking to both mics for a little bit.
                                         
    
                                        while I go find a piece of paper and a pen.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        We're getting serious about this, everybody.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        What I'm saying is, what we're saying is that, well, let's talk about great filter coffee.
                                         
                                        I think that we already know that there's the civet, okay, and we have that coffee that has gone through nature's filter that has been plucked from the trees by a sivet who, for some reason we trust more than people.
                                         
                                        to choose which coffee beans are ready to be eaten
                                         
                                        and then have gone through the civet's digestive system
                                         
    
                                        and then been shat out and then we've got the coffee beans out of the shit
                                         
                                        and then we sell that
                                         
                                        which I don't know if anybody's doing the provenance on that
                                         
                                        I don't know if anybody is actually just checking
                                         
                                        you know if there's any kind of like
                                         
                                        arse to cup kind of accountability
                                         
                                        paperwork trail
                                         
                                        what is happening
                                         
    
                                        but like I think the great filter coffee
                                         
                                        would be not just coffee that has passed
                                         
                                        through the digestive system of a weasel-like creature
                                         
                                        but coffee that has come from a different bean
                                         
                                        the beans have come from a different planet
                                         
                                        of course right these are coffee beans
                                         
                                        that have not just been able to crawl out of the ocean
                                         
                                        but that have been able to build a spaceship
                                         
    
                                        that's right
                                         
                                        living beans
                                         
                                        Living...
                                         
                                        Beans from another world, if you will.
                                         
                                        They're not beans that have been
                                         
                                        shit out by a creature.
                                         
                                        They're beans that can shit out other creatures.
                                         
                                        Oh, my goodness.
                                         
    
                                        You know?
                                         
                                        They can eat, they can live,
                                         
                                        they're living creatures
                                         
                                        and they can do their own shitting.
                                         
                                        I mean, they've already got that crack
                                         
                                        down the middle, don't they?
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        They're all ass.
                                         
    
                                        They're all ass.
                                         
                                        They're all ass.
                                         
                                        Wouldn't you just love to see that...
                                         
                                        That...
                                         
                                        that bean ass just part like that just open
                                         
                                        and there's a little black hole in the middle there
                                         
                                        what's that coming towards you?
                                         
                                        Imagine how dark that would be.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, imagine.
                                         
                                        And that's where the coffee comes out?
                                         
                                        Is shit supposed to be darker than you are?
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
                                        That's not necessarily true.
                                         
                                        I'm just seeing it from my own point of view.
                                         
                                        When you say thank God to that,
                                         
                                        is it because you shit out white shit?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And it's brighter than you.
                                         
                                        One of the lightest people I've ever seen.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        It's embarrassing that the great filter coffee is the first thing I've written down.
                                         
                                        But, okay, we're going back to the boardroom.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Tie up these loose ends.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Now, why was he there?
                                         
                                        Okay, that's right.
                                         
                                        So he's about to give a talk.
                                         
                                        And then...
                                         
    
                                        The fact that you remember this is so sexy.
                                         
                                        On the organized one, Andy.
                                         
                                        you're not only
                                         
                                        you're not only
                                         
                                        not the least dumb one
                                         
                                        you're nothing
                                         
                                        sorry
                                         
                                        okay I'm so sorry
                                         
    
                                        I found like an old piece of paper
                                         
                                        that I can run on the backup
                                         
                                        thank you so much for explaining
                                         
                                        what's happening there
                                         
                                        yeah well you know
                                         
                                        I don't want the people in the room
                                         
                                        to be the only people to see
                                         
                                        the nightmare that is this piece of paper
                                         
    
                                        okay so the guy
                                         
                                        he's very nervous about giving this presentation
                                         
                                        yes of course
                                         
                                        And so his colleague tells him about this trick
                                         
                                        that you can voice your fears.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And that will make you feel better before you get up in front of the talking
                                         
                                        so that you won't feel the fears of it anymore, essentially, like that.
                                         
    
                                        And so I guess that he starts with, well, I'm worried
                                         
                                        they're not going to like the presentation.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You know?
                                         
                                        You know, and then be like...
                                         
                                        Is he voicing these to the people in the room?
                                         
                                        To the colleague, I mean, it could be to the...
                                         
                                        Could be to the board.
                                         
    
                                        To the board?
                                         
                                        It could be just to the table board.
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
                                        You're right.
                                         
                                        No, no.
                                         
                                        We can't.
                                         
                                        That's what veered us off.
                                         
                                        They're talking about the kamikaze trees.
                                         
    
                                        No, but imagine if a war.
                                         
                                        Hey, that kamikaze trees attacking the house.
                                         
                                        Attacking the house because it was made a date.
                                         
                                        I think that's a sketch idea.
                                         
                                        Oh, absolutely.
                                         
                                        You know.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But so then, okay, look, he's just telling it straight to the board and he says,
                                         
    
                                        I'm very nervous.
                                         
                                        I wanted to tell you guys, you know,
                                         
                                        Somebody told me a trick back there
                                         
                                        that it's important to voice what you're nervous about.
                                         
                                        What would be great?
                                         
                                        Would be great.
                                         
                                        They're flying a plane.
                                         
                                        They're flying a plane.
                                         
    
                                        They're flying a plantation of them.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then what you do is you drive a little tiny home
                                         
                                        on the back of a truck down a sort of fire trail in the middle
                                         
                                        and they all throw themselves at it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they sort of fell themselves.
                                         
                                        Oh, it's a beautiful lumberjackless society.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
    
                                        It's not our first heckle.
                                         
                                        I could give them back their shirt.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        And he is wearing a checkered,
                                         
                                        I mean,
                                         
                                        absolutely classic lumberjack outfit.
                                         
                                        Oh, my goodness.
                                         
                                        Yeah, all right.
                                         
    
                                        Thank you from the front row.
                                         
                                        Thank you very much.
                                         
                                        And you know what?
                                         
                                        I don't want you to think,
                                         
                                        I don't want you to think
                                         
                                        the fact that we were able to do
                                         
                                        less than nothing with that offer.
                                         
                                        reflects badly on you at all.
                                         
    
                                        It's our job to be able to take
                                         
                                        a really good suggestion like that
                                         
                                        and turn it into something
                                         
                                        and we didn't.
                                         
                                        And it turns out that that's another thing
                                         
                                        that we can't do.
                                         
                                        But look, I mean, that lump,
                                         
                                        that...
                                         
    
                                        This is going to be the last episode
                                         
                                        anyone's ever going to listen to.
                                         
                                        Anyway, did you hear the unraveling episode?
                                         
                                        where they
                                         
                                        convinced themselves
                                         
                                        to no longer do the podcast
                                         
                                        and the audience
                                         
                                        to no longer listen.
                                         
    
                                        Exactly right.
                                         
                                        Let's shout that at each other
                                         
                                        again at the same time.
                                         
                                        Which one?
                                         
                                        Just that?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Jackless Society.
                                         
                                        Lumber Jackless.
                                         
    
                                        I mean it would be a great
                                         
                                        I mean it would be a great way
                                         
                                        to I suppose
                                         
                                        get Lumberjack's shirts
                                         
                                        you know.
                                         
                                        Get them into
                                         
                                        sort of back into society.
                                         
                                        so that people can wear them
                                         
    
                                        and it's not all being hogged by the
                                         
                                        Bushmen? Well, yeah, I mean, even if
                                         
                                        they, I suppose if we were able to
                                         
                                        breed a kamikaze tree,
                                         
                                        we could
                                         
                                        put all of the lumberjacks out of work
                                         
                                        and then get their shirts off their backs.
                                         
                                        Yeah. You don't think they'll need shirts in the
                                         
    
                                        unemployed line or whatever?
                                         
                                        No shirt, no service Australia? Is that what you're thinking?
                                         
                                        No shirt, no services Australia.
                                         
                                        I just want to make sure everybody heard it.
                                         
                                        That's the policy.
                                         
                                        That's the policy.
                                         
                                        Is that even called Services Australia?
                                         
                                        It'd be great if it was.
                                         
    
                                        People believed it.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        It sounded right enough.
                                         
                                        Oh, I know, but I'm also comedy comes from truth.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        And if that wasn't, if that didn't actually come from truth, it's not comedy.
                                         
                                        And I want to give those people back their laughs.
                                         
                                        I don't think that's true.
                                         
    
                                        I think that a lot of the time comedy is just saying something that is incorrect.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's true.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
                                        And funny.
                                         
                                        That's why everybody laughed.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        No, I think you're absolutely right,
                                         
    
                                        but Alastair, doesn't them saying things that aren't true,
                                         
                                        doesn't, isn't that itself built upon a bedrock of truth?
                                         
                                        Like, you can't say things that aren't true if truth has no value.
                                         
                                        My phone is on.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's good.
                                         
                                        And making noise.
                                         
                                        Well, the truth is within them.
                                         
                                        They already know the truth.
                                         
    
                                        That's why they know you're saying something wrong.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        So do you think that through negative,
                                         
                                        space. You're essentially pointing to the truth
                                         
                                        by pointing to the non-truth. It's beautifully put.
                                         
                                        Oh, all right. Well, I guess comedy is truth.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's just the negative space around the truth. I don't think so.
                                         
                                        That's bullshit. What about my animal asses bit earlier than I did?
                                         
    
                                        We all secretly agree.
                                         
                                        Okay. Everybody.
                                         
                                        No, no. But I mentioned it to one friend before the show
                                         
                                        and she immediately said, no, no, no. The human ass is not the nicest one.
                                         
                                        The tape here has the nicest ass.
                                         
                                        The bodonga donkey.
                                         
                                        And the huge hog.
                                         
                                        Right?
                                         
    
                                        Remember, it was a huge hog.
                                         
                                        It has a huge hog.
                                         
                                        And then what did you say?
                                         
                                        I said the bodonka donkey,
                                         
                                        which I already said just then.
                                         
                                        Okay, yeah, sorry.
                                         
                                        I wasn't listening.
                                         
                                        I was too busy thinking about what you said.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        It got nothing, Alistair.
                                         
                                        But don't get nothing.
                                         
                                        Lisa dib laugh.
                                         
                                        That's why, because we mentioned hogs.
                                         
                                        And then you said,
                                         
                                        but don'tca donkey.
                                         
                                        Oh, because we already talked about the big dick.
                                         
    
                                        It's the flow of information.
                                         
                                        It's the flow of information.
                                         
                                        It would make, no, no, it would make, because you're confusing big butts with big dicks.
                                         
                                        So if we had said the tapir has the hugest ass, and then you went, ah, the bodonka donkey.
                                         
                                        Maybe that doesn't make sense either, because it's not a donkey.
                                         
                                        You know?
                                         
                                        We'll make this work, Andy.
                                         
                                        I think it's too good of a rhythm of a sentence.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, it's just fun to say, you know.
                                         
                                        You're right.
                                         
                                        And the part of it was working.
                                         
                                        Oh, but they do have a big dick.
                                         
                                        I see what you're saying.
                                         
                                        Yeah, like a donkey.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        But then they're, okay.
                                         
    
                                        But they also got a big ass.
                                         
                                        So they're a donkey with a...
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And a donkey is called an ass.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        God, there's so many layers to this joke
                                         
                                        that no one laughs at.
                                         
                                        All right, something to think about...
                                         
    
                                        All right, so okay, so the guy gets in front of...
                                         
                                        I've lost belief in this first sketch that I'm trying to keep...
                                         
                                        No, but it's now the backbone of the entire episode.
                                         
                                        Exactly, yeah, it's important.
                                         
                                        We have to keep going back to it.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        You know, like...
                                         
                                        Like...
                                         
    
                                        Like...
                                         
                                        Something you go back to.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        All the time.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        To the toilet.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        The toilet in many ways is the backbone of life.
                                         
    
                                        Because you just keep going back there every time.
                                         
                                        Each time it's another vertebrae.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        You know?
                                         
                                        It's like...
                                         
                                        And you poop into it,
                                         
                                        essentially putting the marrow into that vertebrae.
                                         
                                        Like a transplant,
                                         
    
                                        like some sort of bone marrow transplant.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I mean, you know,
                                         
                                        when you're building a spine
                                         
                                        I assume that you first you have
                                         
                                        that outer part and then you fill it up with my
                                         
                                        the outer part then you fill up
                                         
                                        with the poo
                                         
    
                                        oh
                                         
                                        um
                                         
                                        um
                                         
                                        um
                                         
                                        didn't want it to be like this
                                         
                                        um
                                         
                                        um
                                         
                                        two
                                         
    
                                        four
                                         
                                        okay so then you tell the fears
                                         
                                        so you tell the fears
                                         
                                        so he says to the board
                                         
                                        they're all suits
                                         
                                        and there's men and women there
                                         
                                        there's two non-binary
                                         
                                        people
                                         
    
                                        and I just wanted to be
                                         
                                        too that would be the number they would hate to be
                                         
                                        the most of
                                         
                                        that would be forcing them to be binary
                                         
                                        that's awful I apologize for that
                                         
                                        three
                                         
                                        so then
                                         
                                        and then he starts to go
                                         
    
                                        somebody you know guys I want to be
                                         
                                        I want to admit
                                         
                                        I'm very nervous about doing this presentation for you all.
                                         
                                        But somebody told me that if I voice my fears,
                                         
                                        I will stop feeling them.
                                         
                                        And so I just want to tell you guys that I'm just,
                                         
                                        I'm worried that you guys will react negatively to this presentation
                                         
                                        and that you won't like what I've done.
                                         
    
                                        And they say,
                                         
                                        we appreciate you being vulnerable like that.
                                         
                                        Nobody does that.
                                         
                                        We're the board.
                                         
                                        We get a lot of people presenting to us
                                         
                                        who don't have the courage to be vulnerable
                                         
                                        and we've actually never felt closer
                                         
                                        to somebody presenting to us as the board
                                         
    
                                        and then they say
                                         
                                        would you like to kiss
                                         
                                        I mean I thought then he would go on and then go
                                         
                                        and I'll thank you for supporting me like this
                                         
                                        because I would actually also like to say
                                         
                                        that I'm worried that I didn't put enough
                                         
                                        the board says that back to them
                                         
                                        they reveal their fears and secrets
                                         
    
                                        Well, no, I'm saying the...
                                         
                                        You're still the same guy.
                                         
                                        It's still the same guy, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I mean, we can add that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, great.
                                         
                                        And then he goes, well, I'm also worried I didn't put enough work
                                         
                                        into this presentation.
                                         
                                        And that it's maybe, you know,
                                         
    
                                        it's not of a high enough quality
                                         
                                        to be presenting to the board,
                                         
                                        but I ran out of time because I, you know,
                                         
                                        I was a bit distracted.
                                         
                                        Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                        You know, and they say, you know what,
                                         
                                        we also appreciate you.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, great, thank you.
                                         
                                        That's very nice.
                                         
                                        You go,
                                         
                                        I'm also worried
                                         
                                        that
                                         
                                        I have something on my face
                                         
                                        you know I don't know
                                         
                                        and then the idea I guess would be that he keeps saying fears
                                         
    
                                        but then I didn't know but I think maybe look to take it to another place
                                         
                                        I think if the board
                                         
                                        the board stands up
                                         
                                        all of them together and they say with one voice
                                         
                                        we're worried that
                                         
                                        we've lost
                                         
                                        sight of why we're
                                         
                                        started being a board in the first place.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, that's good.
                                         
                                        And we're worried that people only respect us
                                         
                                        because we draw our power from this big plank of wood.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and our name.
                                         
                                        And our name, yes.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, of board and planks.
                                         
                                        That's really good.
                                         
                                        Now, I feel like we can't finish this sketch idea yet
                                         
    
                                        because it's the backbone of the episode.
                                         
                                        And I wouldn't want this episode to sort of go off the rails.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        I mean, that would be awful.
                                         
                                        So we'll come back to it.
                                         
                                        We'll have to come back to it and figure out what the sort of maybe
                                         
                                        second
                                         
                                        what's that thing
                                         
    
                                        they use in movies there?
                                         
                                        B-plot?
                                         
                                        No, no.
                                         
                                        You know, they go, oh, well, that's the first
                                         
                                        one. Act. Act.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah. So...
                                         
                                        You're writing a film at the moment, aren't you, Alastair?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        How's it going?
                                         
                                        I've just learned the word act.
                                         
                                        So it's going okay.
                                         
                                        So how do you think it's going?
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's...
                                         
                                        How do you fucking think?
                                         
                                        it's going really good
                                         
                                        it's going really good
                                         
    
                                        it's going really good
                                         
                                        I mean
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        I think there's
                                         
                                        there should be
                                         
                                        a island
                                         
                                        that you can go to
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
    
                                        when you've told
                                         
                                        enough people
                                         
                                        that you're working
                                         
                                        on a book
                                         
                                        or a screenplay or something
                                         
                                        there should be
                                         
                                        after you've told a few people
                                         
                                        and you haven't made
                                         
    
                                        any progress on it
                                         
                                        there should be an island
                                         
                                        like they have
                                         
                                        for sex criminals
                                         
                                        where you can just go
                                         
                                        and live there
                                         
                                        right with a whole lot
                                         
                                        of other people
                                         
    
                                        who've told people
                                         
                                        they're working on screenplays or novels
                                         
                                        but haven't made any progress
                                         
                                        so that they can be kept away from anybody
                                         
                                        who might ask them how it's going
                                         
                                        or something like that, right?
                                         
                                        And then they can just walk around
                                         
                                        feeling safe, talking
                                         
    
                                        to other people who haven't finished their screenplays
                                         
                                        and they can all keep telling each other
                                         
                                        that they're working on a screenplay
                                         
                                        and supporting each other.
                                         
                                        But that's the opposite of what you want.
                                         
                                        With the sex criminal island.
                                         
                                        Wait, are we sending them to the sex criminal island?
                                         
                                        No, it's a different island.
                                         
    
                                        Sorry.
                                         
                                        When I said like a sex criminal island, that wasn't an example of an island we could send them to.
                                         
                                        That was just an analogy.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        In the sense of, if you're wishing to envisage the idea of an island, start by thinking, imagining a sex criminal island.
                                         
                                        And now imagine it without the sex criminals on there.
                                         
                                        Okay, clear that off.
                                         
                                        A bunch of writers on there.
                                         
    
                                        A clean slate, then send a bunch of writers.
                                         
                                        Some of the writers will be sex criminals.
                                         
                                        Does it become a sex criminal island there?
                                         
                                        Or does it need a majority?
                                         
                                        for it to become a sex criminal island
                                         
                                        or do you just need one sex criminal
                                         
                                        it's a really interesting question
                                         
                                        it's like does one sex
                                         
    
                                        criminal apple
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        make all the other
                                         
                                        batch of apples sex criminals
                                         
                                        I think so
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        it depends if they all protect
                                         
                                        him I guess and stuff anyway
                                         
    
                                        it does it does depend if the other apples
                                         
                                        protect that
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        which of
                                         
                                        of the apples which one do you
                                         
                                        think is most likely to be a sex criminal
                                         
                                        Fuji
                                         
                                        I feel like you squatched your face because you're like
                                         
    
                                        that's an Asian sounding name
                                         
                                        and you thought I was being racist
                                         
                                        yes
                                         
                                        what about the Jonathan
                                         
                                        all right the Jonathan
                                         
                                        I mean yeah I think probably the golden
                                         
                                        delicious right like thank you
                                         
                                        okay some real
                                         
    
                                        murmurs of a cent there from the audience
                                         
                                        because like think about it right
                                         
                                        gold and delicious that's obviously
                                         
                                        an apple that is grooming you
                                         
                                        right from the very beginning
                                         
                                        okay putting out there
                                         
                                        it's like oh I've got all this stuff to offer you
                                         
                                        deliciousness
                                         
    
                                        gold you see
                                         
                                        and then
                                         
                                        when it gets you back to its
                                         
                                        punnet
                                         
                                        or
                                         
                                        where it lives
                                         
                                        with all these little strawberries.
                                         
                                        Cart, apple cart.
                                         
    
                                        Oh yeah, back to its cart.
                                         
                                        It fills your mouth with disgusting tasting stuff.
                                         
                                        I'm so sorry.
                                         
                                        Andy, I've already written down
                                         
                                        Golden Delicious as the sex criminal apple.
                                         
                                        It's already in there.
                                         
                                        Thank God.
                                         
                                        Okay, so on this island, I think
                                         
    
                                        that the writers should be allowed to.
                                         
                                        Violence is legal if you're not currently writing.
                                         
                                        No, but that's not the problem.
                                         
                                        point of the island to me. The island
                                         
                                        is not about them getting their novel
                                         
                                        finished. It's just about them being
                                         
                                        able to hide away from people who might
                                         
                                        ask them how their novels going and
                                         
    
                                        hold them accountable. But then you said
                                         
                                        they've told lots of people that they're doing it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but then one of the main things you said
                                         
                                        is that once they're there, they'll be able to
                                         
                                        interact with each other and ask each other how their
                                         
                                        novel is going. Yeah, but that's fine
                                         
                                        because you secretly you both
                                         
                                        know, right? Like on a sex
                                         
    
                                        criminal island. If you're
                                         
                                        talking to another person, they both
                                         
                                        know that they're sex criminals in the back of their eyes.
                                         
                                        They'll be talking about something else, maybe.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But maybe they'll be talking about.
                                         
                                        It's hard to imagine.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, did you see the game?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, how good a golden delicious apples.
                                         
                                        But on the novelist island and screenwriter island,
                                         
                                        they can talk, they can say, oh, I'm working on a screenplay.
                                         
                                        And the other person can say, oh, I'm working on a screenplay.
                                         
                                        And they both know not to ask any follow-up questions.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay, right.
                                         
    
                                        So they can just ask a little bit.
                                         
                                        I think that was the lack of clarity in that part there, which I'm so glad that we got to the bottom.
                                         
                                        I think the audience understood exactly what I was talking about.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        Didn't they?
                                         
                                        That sucks.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        What a dog act.
                                         
    
                                        That really sucks.
                                         
                                        They felt pressured into doing it.
                                         
                                        They're like, oh, I guess we can't, on the one live episode they're ever going to do.
                                         
                                        I can't let Andy go, ah, out we?
                                         
                                        And then they all go.
                                         
                                        And you've got crickets on your side.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's really, really manipulative.
                                         
                                        Can we talk about this picture here
                                         
    
                                        and this drawing of me and Alastair
                                         
                                        and how in this drawing,
                                         
                                        Alistair still manages somehow to be the more attractive one.
                                         
                                        It's a great drawing.
                                         
                                        My mustache does look a bit Hitler-y in that.
                                         
                                        In that image, though.
                                         
                                        That was what I was finding attractive.
                                         
                                        I see it now.
                                         
    
                                        I just realize.
                                         
                                        I mean, Hitler had such a stupid mustache.
                                         
                                        Do you think he could have done what he did
                                         
                                        if he'd done that with his lips instead?
                                         
                                        Sort of, like, as a permanent thing?
                                         
                                        Sort of stretch his lips out.
                                         
                                        If that was his choice, you know.
                                         
                                        Yeah, exactly.
                                         
    
                                        So, yeah, grabbing the two
                                         
                                        the left and right corners of the lips.
                                         
                                        I'm explaining this for those people listening
                                         
                                        to this as an audio. Your ability to do that, by the way, is really quite remarkable.
                                         
                                        But if that had been what Hitler did instead of having a funny little moustache,
                                         
                                        firstly, do you think he would have been able to commit his awful crimes?
                                         
                                        And secondly, do you think there would be so many documentaries about him on SBS?
                                         
                                        I think, I don't know, because I mean, would he have...
                                         
    
                                        given the speeches like that
                                         
                                        that led to the leadership
                                         
                                        I think it's actually quite difficult
                                         
                                        to speak like that
                                         
                                        if you want to hold your mic
                                         
                                        to my lips while I
                                         
                                        while I
                                         
                                        straight
                                         
    
                                        this fucking
                                         
                                        it takes away
                                         
                                        some of the authority
                                         
                                        and clarity of what you're saying
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        some of the people in the audience
                                         
                                        started standing up
                                         
                                        what you were doing it
                                         
    
                                        I just assumed they were going to the bathroom.
                                         
                                        Maybe that's what was happening.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You think...
                                         
                                        In Nazi Germany.
                                         
                                        Oh, that it got interpreted as support,
                                         
                                        but actually, where he spoke,
                                         
                                        it was almost sort of like...
                                         
    
                                        Not the brown note, but the yellow note.
                                         
                                        And when he...
                                         
                                        The Nazi...
                                         
                                        Start and scotten, like that.
                                         
                                        Whatever, like that.
                                         
                                        And everyone's like, actually,
                                         
                                        I really got a piss.
                                         
                                        Like that.
                                         
    
                                        And everybody stood up,
                                         
                                        and it looked like there was so much support for him
                                         
                                        that they just let him destroy the constitution
                                         
                                        and then take over Europe.
                                         
                                        That would be a really good,
                                         
                                        if you had discovered the,
                                         
                                        it is sort of like a zero-day exploit
                                         
                                        in the human brain.
                                         
    
                                        If you find the brown note or the yellow note,
                                         
                                        you probably get one chance
                                         
                                        to really use it before people start
                                         
                                        building defences and knowing how to deal with this
                                         
                                        as a threat.
                                         
                                        So you could find a forum
                                         
                                        in which having a lot of people
                                         
                                        stand up all at the one time would make it
                                         
    
                                        look like they all really agreed with
                                         
                                        you or they really enjoyed your
                                         
                                        concert or your performance
                                         
                                        and live podcast.
                                         
                                        Do another note that makes them
                                         
                                        clap at the same time.
                                         
                                        That would be so good. Needing to go to the bathroom and then
                                         
                                        like oh like something that makes them think
                                         
    
                                        there's like a swarm of mosquitoes
                                         
                                        right in front of them or something like that. I mean was the
                                         
                                        Beatles music actually good or had
                                         
                                        they just discovered a way to write music
                                         
                                        that makes people clap?
                                         
                                        I mean, it's the best way of the programming to get into your brain, like that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I mean, even maybe they did their faces in such a way that made you convulse and scream and fall to the ground and be a teenage girl.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You know what screaming looked like, but I just had to...
                                         
                                        Could you write that down as a sketch?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, yes. I forget about this bit.
                                         
                                        And then after that, as a treat, I've got some good news for the people listening to the podcast.
                                         
                                        You don't have to wait until I'm finished writing
                                         
                                        because I think that'll just be a bit of...
                                         
                                        Well, that's our fifth sketch idea.
                                         
    
                                        Which means...
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        Which means it's time to go to the part of the podcast
                                         
                                        where we talk for a very long time
                                         
                                        about either the name of the person
                                         
                                        who's suggested three words
                                         
                                        or just the phrase,
                                         
                                        A listener for 10 or 15 minutes.
                                         
    
                                        Do we put a hats on?
                                         
                                        Oh, this would be a great time to put your hats on.
                                         
                                        If anybody does have a hat
                                         
                                        Either here in the room or at home
                                         
                                        I think this would be a great time to be wearing a hat
                                         
                                        So for anybody who isn't in the room
                                         
                                        Who might be listening to the recording
                                         
                                        We got people to write down some three words from a listener
                                         
    
                                        As they came in and put it on a little piece of paper
                                         
                                        And I have then put those pieces of paper
                                         
                                        Into a listener hat
                                         
                                        And so we will now move to the section of the podcast known
                                         
                                        as three words from three words from a listener
                                         
                                        from three listeners from a
                                         
                                        listener hat.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
    
                                        Oh yeah, do you want...
                                         
                                        I mean, I guess you could...
                                         
                                        You hold the head.
                                         
                                        Wait, wait.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, I'm not allowed to pick the words.
                                         
                                        I've got to guess them.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Do I have to guess them before you pull them out?
                                         
    
                                        Okay, yeah.
                                         
                                        And then...
                                         
                                        I mean, this is good, isn't it?
                                         
                                        I mean, really.
                                         
                                        the hat is on the other head here, isn't it?
                                         
                                        Because you also now
                                         
                                        don't know the words, and that little game
                                         
                                        that you play, when you act so superior
                                         
    
                                        just because you read them.
                                         
                                        I mean, you know, I was
                                         
                                        entrusted with them. Now I get to
                                         
                                        trust me with their words.
                                         
                                        I get to ask you if you
                                         
                                        think it's right before you pull it
                                         
                                        out of the hat.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        Ah, yes. I mean, I like this part where we make this
                                         
                                        bit even longer and more tedious.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And I think that the first word is
                                         
                                        bravery.
                                         
                                        I mean, this sucks, and I'm going to pick out a thing
                                         
                                        with three words on it.
                                         
                                        So essentially, your odds are way better, right?
                                         
    
                                        No, but you could just choose one of the other words.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay, great.
                                         
                                        I'm getting a phone call.
                                         
                                        Should I answer it?
                                         
                                        That was great.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Oh, you didn't tell me if you think it's right.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        No, I don't think it's right.
                                         
                                        Do you think it's right?
                                         
                                        I tried.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        You got one of the vowels, correct?
                                         
                                        No, the first word is lard.
                                         
                                        I almost said large.
                                         
    
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        That's all the wrong.
                                         
                                        That's also
                                         
                                        Large, okay, large, okay.
                                         
                                        Second word,
                                         
                                        I really fucked it up with that,
                                         
                                        not saying large before,
                                         
                                        so should I say large now?
                                         
    
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Perry Winkle.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Someone here has written Perry Winkle,
                                         
                                        one of those people.
                                         
                                        Someone's sitting there going,
                                         
                                        Oh my God.
                                         
                                        My word.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, let's see.
                                         
                                        Okay, let's see.
                                         
                                        Oh, do you think it's right?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        No, Andy, it's not right.
                                         
                                        The second word is ache.
                                         
                                        Ake.
                                         
                                        Ake.
                                         
    
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Fat pain.
                                         
                                        A? Fat pine.
                                         
                                        I've got fat pain.
                                         
                                        I mean, that's one place where I haven't felt pain yet.
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
    
                                        Oh man, that's a real pain in my fat.
                                         
                                        It gets a bad rap.
                                         
                                        But when was the last time you strained your...
                                         
                                        You're fat.
                                         
                                        You're fat. Never.
                                         
                                        It's the only part of your body that can't hurt you.
                                         
                                        Exactly. I've never felt like my fat is one of the most...
                                         
                                        the most kind to me bits
                                         
    
                                        and never goes wrong
                                         
                                        always goes right
                                         
                                        it never goes wrong
                                         
                                        and it always goes right
                                         
                                        all right so
                                         
                                        I think muscles could learn a little thing or two
                                         
                                        I got a freaking twinge right now
                                         
                                        and it's muscle not fat
                                         
    
                                        that's right
                                         
                                        you never hear I got a fat twinge
                                         
                                        woke up
                                         
                                        oh my
                                         
                                        my gut twinked
                                         
                                        twinked
                                         
                                        what the fuck are my
                                         
                                        it's possible the audience isn't miced up for this
                                         
    
                                        so people listening at the other end
                                         
                                        I think that we're just taking big gaps between sentences
                                         
                                        Yeah, really big gaps to let all the laughter
                                         
                                        The rolling waves
                                         
                                        Yeah, okay
                                         
                                        Third word
                                         
                                        Bottle nose
                                         
                                        Yeah, like a dolphin
                                         
    
                                        That's a great guess
                                         
                                        And I think that's, we can ask Will Runting
                                         
                                        Is that ever been said,
                                         
                                        Roll Runting?
                                         
                                        You don't know?
                                         
                                        That's okay, but thank you for even answer.
                                         
                                        You're confusing, building with a website that checks things
                                         
                                        with knowing all those things.
                                         
    
                                        Sure, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay, ooh, you know what?
                                         
                                        You're lucky because there is more letters in these words,
                                         
                                        so that you're close in that way.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        So you're telling me there's a chance.
                                         
                                        There's a chance, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        My guess is that it's not right.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And the third word is embodied.
                                         
                                        Lard, ache, embodied.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Have we talked about this before on the podcast,
                                         
                                        but that I think it would be a good idea to have a sketch where,
                                         
                                        that's how, that's the silent introduction to every sentence.
                                         
                                        We normally edit that out.
                                         
    
                                        But where somebody lives with their self-doubt.
                                         
                                        Like their self-doubt become...
                                         
                                        Maybe it's a service.
                                         
                                        In the future, you can go somewhere
                                         
                                        and you can get your self-doubt turned into a person.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And, you know, they take a physical form.
                                         
    
                                        So, like, take a bit of fat from your ass and make a person...
                                         
                                        It'd be really good.
                                         
                                        Like God, taking a rib.
                                         
                                        Taking a rib.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That I mentioned this, like, they could make...
                                         
                                        They made Adam out of dust.
                                         
                                        Mm.
                                         
    
                                        And then they made Eve out of a rib.
                                         
                                        there's no dust left
                                         
                                        just like
                                         
                                        it's dust
                                         
                                        yeah it's a brand new planet
                                         
                                        also make a brand new planet
                                         
                                        already dusty
                                         
                                        it doesn't sound like a very good planet
                                         
    
                                        this supposed garden of Eden
                                         
                                        it's filthy
                                         
                                        it's filthy yeah
                                         
                                        and it's already the crops of all
                                         
                                        so he's made the dust
                                         
                                        he made dust
                                         
                                        Like that?
                                         
                                        Which day did he do that?
                                         
    
                                        Isn't it dust?
                                         
                                        It's all like skin flakes and shit like that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, where did that come from?
                                         
                                        Where that come from God?
                                         
                                        It's starting to fall a few, find a few holes.
                                         
                                        Also, there's that bit.
                                         
                                        I think I've already said this.
                                         
                                        Maybe.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, this is where they tell us that dust is skin flakes,
                                         
                                        but we don't know if those skin flakes come from a man
                                         
                                        or if man comes from the skin flakes.
                                         
                                        Maybe God got the DNA from the skin flakes in the dust
                                         
                                        and said, you know what, this skin should be a man.
                                         
                                        Let's give it a chance to see what it can do.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think that's great.
                                         
                                        When I lifted up to the big leagues, is what I was going to say.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Was that a baseball thing?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, look, I mean, all right.
                                         
                                        So then we're going back to Lard.
                                         
                                        We're taking some of the, so you go to the, you go to this place.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, to make a body of something up.
                                         
                                        They can take some fat from your ass.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And they, make a man.
                                         
                                        And they turn it into a being.
                                         
                                        And maybe it is a small sort of jelly-like little gullas.
                                         
                                        Like a flubber.
                                         
    
                                        We love a little guy.
                                         
                                        We love a little guy, yeah.
                                         
                                        We love a little guy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we can make it a little flubbery kind of.
                                         
                                        He's a little flubber guy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you know, looks like.
                                         
                                        So he's, like, his face is kind of just molded into sort of mouth, eye holes a little bit like that.
                                         
                                        But does he talk?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and then whenever you're trying to do something, you know, you might think you can do it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then the little guy, oh, you might not be very good at that.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, you might have chosen too many bright colors.
                                         
                                        for your outfit today.
                                         
                                        What if Alastair is also dressed as a Christmas
                                         
    
                                        hair?
                                         
                                        That's right, because we're both wearing red and then green.
                                         
                                        And then we had, before the podcast, we did go,
                                         
                                        red and green, that's very Christmassy.
                                         
                                        But that's because for this episode,
                                         
                                        we wanted to be present.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        And that's what we're like off the podcast.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, you can only imagine what we're like on the podcast.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        And so, okay, so he just kind of says doubts and stuff like that.
                                         
                                        But then, but then something's going to happen.
                                         
                                        Oh, you're going to have to try and kill him, right?
                                         
                                        Okay, because now he says all the stuff.
                                         
                                        Try and kill this little guy.
                                         
                                        Why did you think that it would be good to make this?
                                         
    
                                        But backwards?
                                         
                                        Like you put something into the little creature to make it beautiful?
                                         
                                        No, but you got the little guy out of your butt.
                                         
                                        I'm not saying she comes out of Demi Moore's butt in the movie The Substance.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But.
                                         
                                        I haven't seen the substance.
                                         
                                        I think she's a beautiful, confident woman
                                         
    
                                        who comes out of Demi Moore's back.
                                         
                                        Is that right?
                                         
                                        Has anyone seen the movie?
                                         
                                        And there's somebody, a woman comes out of her back?
                                         
                                        This is, okay, this is more fucked
                                         
                                        than I ever could have considered.
                                         
                                        No wonder this movie's a hit.
                                         
                                        Well, wait till we do our version.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                        With a little blubbery man.
                                         
                                        Little blubber dude.
                                         
                                        Okay, so wait, why did you want a guy?
                                         
                                        No, it extracts yourself out,
                                         
                                        so it's no longer in you.
                                         
                                        It's externalized.
                                         
                                        The audience was with me.
                                         
    
                                        The audience didn't understand what you were talking about.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Thank you, one person.
                                         
                                        I appreciate it.
                                         
                                        That was great.
                                         
                                        So, okay.
                                         
                                        Okay, so then you have to fight it or kill it?
                                         
                                        No, no, no, no, no.
                                         
    
                                        I mean.
                                         
                                        Or is it just released into the world and it gets personhood?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I think it gets personal right.
                                         
                                        I mean, it probably lives with you, right?
                                         
                                        But then, I mean, imagine.
                                         
                                        They create a little suburb of little blobs,
                                         
                                        little self-doubt blobs.
                                         
    
                                        They could be it.
                                         
                                        Maybe they're put on an island.
                                         
                                        But, and then, but you know what?
                                         
                                        That wouldn't it be good because they're made out of fat,
                                         
                                        which means they're going to float on top of the water
                                         
                                        and they can just come back real easy.
                                         
                                        Maybe that's the one flaw.
                                         
                                        But wouldn't this be a beautiful pixel?
                                         
    
                                        They float on the water.
                                         
                                        Is that what you're saying?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's a really good idea.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Maybe they joined it.
                                         
                                        together into some kind of fatburg.
                                         
                                        Oh, you could make a boat out of fat.
                                         
    
                                        Fat boat.
                                         
                                        That's crazy.
                                         
                                        You never think about making a boat out of oil, do you?
                                         
                                        But you could, and if it sank, it would come back up.
                                         
                                        Not like a regular wood boat.
                                         
                                        I think if your boat made out of oil sank,
                                         
                                        I don't think it would come back up.
                                         
                                        Why?
                                         
    
                                        Because I think if it was come back up, it wouldn't have sunk in the first place.
                                         
                                        No, but it won't take on water.
                                         
                                        It'll just fall and make little bubbles of oil
                                         
                                        and then eventually all reclumped together.
                                         
                                        Reclump back together.
                                         
                                        You just got to make yourself lighter than oil.
                                         
                                        So you've got to like,
                                         
                                        probably just got to put air under your skin.
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Like, and just inflate your skin.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then just get yourself real puffy.
                                         
                                        Like that.
                                         
                                        Puffy as fuck.
                                         
                                        Like that.
                                         
                                        And then you just lay on this oil
                                         
    
                                        and then you travel to the Mediterranean.
                                         
                                        Did I ever tell you that this happened to my friend Sam Pointer?
                                         
                                        He was a...
                                         
                                        He was a keen tennis player but also a bagpipist.
                                         
                                        And he...
                                         
                                        One day, while playing tennis...
                                         
                                        Somebody put him under his arm
                                         
                                        and they squeezed him and he went...
                                         
    
                                        Sorry.
                                         
                                        While playing tennis, he hit himself in the face
                                         
                                        with a tennis racket
                                         
                                        and without realizing it,
                                         
                                        opened a small rupture.
                                         
                                        And then, next time he was playing bagpipes,
                                         
                                        the pressure in his mouth was so great
                                         
                                        that it inflated his head.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        Like old school dizzy Gillespie or whatever like that,
                                         
                                        and their neck is all like a toad.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but it stayed inflated,
                                         
                                        and he had to go to the hospital
                                         
                                        and get some sort of deballoonification process.
                                         
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        It stayed inflated.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So hard to keep a balloon inflated
                                         
                                        and that a cheek will just do it.
                                         
                                        We should make balloons out of cheek.
                                         
                                        Well, I think, you know, don't you think that now that balloons aren't, you know, because of woke, you can't have balloons anymore, Alastair, you know, did you know, balloons are cancelled because they could get into the water and kill a dolphin.
                                         
                                        But because the tone is just not sarcastic enough. It's so close to just sounding like you were just saying that. But I also understand. Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I get very comfortable. Imagine what it would be like to have your self-doubt externalized.
                                         
                                        into a little guy.
                                         
    
                                        What would that be like?
                                         
                                        A little guy who...
                                         
                                        Right on top of me into the ocean.
                                         
                                        I think the little self-doubt guys,
                                         
                                        if they do go to an island,
                                         
                                        maybe they form their own society,
                                         
                                        or maybe it's a Pixar movie
                                         
                                        about a little self-doubt guy
                                         
    
                                        who gets confidence, right?
                                         
                                        Who starts to believe in himself.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But he doesn't start to believe in you?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Okay, he still thinks...
                                         
                                        No, he still thinks you're shit.
                                         
                                        He believes in himself to say more self-doubtful things about you.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                        He's very arrogant about it.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's good.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        But, but, but, but, what were we talking about?
                                         
                                        The boat with oil?
                                         
                                        No, no, before then.
                                         
                                        You inflate your skin.
                                         
    
                                        Inflate, okay, what about this?
                                         
                                        Because you can't have balloons anymore.
                                         
                                        What about this?
                                         
                                        The nice thing to do for your kid's birthday, dad gets his head inflated.
                                         
                                        Right?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        so so they just you know it's probably like the piercing people you know exactly they know
                                         
                                        how to make a hole real quick that's right like that they just probably maybe pinch the
                                         
    
                                        the pink flesh inside your cheek exactly just like biting your cheek it hurts a little bit but
                                         
                                        like that yeah maybe they put some anesthetic on there get the get the little pump a whole lot of air
                                         
                                        in there and your head blows up redad's head blows up real big yeah and then like before the
                                         
                                        party you can go and stand out on the street so people know there's a party there yeah and then
                                         
                                        the kids have to hit it when there's a part of the park is along with that'd be so good what a great
                                         
                                        way to deflate dad's head yeah at the end everybody gather around beat the air out of dad's
                                         
                                        noggin yeah maybe there's a pin a little pin on the end of the stick oh yeah
                                         
                                        watch dad's eyes maybe maybe dad could wear those little you know those little like tanning
                                         
    
                                        bed like little thing those little plastic things that no light's supposed to get through
                                         
                                        Goggles?
                                         
                                        Well, I think, no, but they're like, they look like, they're kind of like, you know, like Morpheus's glasses, the way they kind of just pinch over the nose.
                                         
                                        I don't know these.
                                         
                                        You don't know Morpheus's glasses?
                                         
                                        I know Morpheus's glasses.
                                         
                                        I don't know these tanning bed glasses that you're talking about.
                                         
                                        I think they're basically just sunglasses you can't see through, but they only just go over your eyes like that.
                                         
    
                                        They don't have any arms like that.
                                         
                                        Hey?
                                         
                                        Pinsnes.
                                         
                                        Pinsnes.
                                         
                                        It's actually French.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
    
                                        Paisnay?
                                         
                                        Paisnay, yeah.
                                         
                                        Panseigne.
                                         
                                        I mean, I'm saying it with my Quebec accent.
                                         
                                        You said it so beautifully.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        Like you were fresh out of Paris.
                                         
                                        But do you think that that might be the end of the podcast?
                                         
    
                                        I don't want to get anybody's hopes up.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        We got to finish the boardroom sketch.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Of course.
                                         
                                        And then they kiss.
                                         
                                        Oh, wouldn't that be great?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then they all kiss.
                                         
                                        the board
                                         
                                        table?
                                         
                                        Each board member
                                         
                                        kisses a different
                                         
                                        hole.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's great.
                                         
    
                                        Like a gang bang
                                         
                                        but for kissing.
                                         
                                        It's a kissing gang bang.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But all is like
                                         
                                        first base kissing.
                                         
                                        So it's just,
                                         
                                        but it's still a kissing hole.
                                         
    
                                        I want you to peck me
                                         
                                        everywhere.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                        And so,
                                         
                                        but anything like a dent,
                                         
                                        like a nook
                                         
                                        that counts as a hole.
                                         
                                        So,
                                         
    
                                        so yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you know what I say?
                                         
                                        You can
                                         
                                        Kiss the ear, but you can also kiss...
                                         
                                        That's what I say.
                                         
                                        What's that?
                                         
                                        Any crooks a nook.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
    
                                        Any crooks a nook?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        So, okay, so then they have like a sort of a peck orgy, a kiss orgy.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And then they approve his plan.
                                         
                                        I mean, I also think, though, just the idea of like a business orgy.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Where everybody's shaking hands with everybody.
                                         
                                        Somebody's shaking hands with two people at the same time.
                                         
                                        while somebody else stands in a corner
                                         
                                        and shakes their own hand, watching.
                                         
                                        Somebody, yeah.
                                         
                                        This is how good the meeting, how did the meeting go?
                                         
                                        Oh, it went so well.
                                         
    
                                        I also like the idea of somebody shaking it from the back.
                                         
                                        Shaking it from the back.
                                         
                                        Shaking from behind.
                                         
                                        Alistair, we have to end the podcast.
                                         
                                        I'll read out the sketching.
                                         
                                        Okay, we got telling fears to the board,
                                         
                                        and then they tell them his fears,
                                         
                                        and then they have a kiss orgy.
                                         
    
                                        We got the chemikaze trees and the lumberjack,
                                         
                                        less society. Then we have the great
                                         
                                        filter coffee. We have the golden delicious
                                         
                                        as the sex animal apple.
                                         
                                        Sex animal apple? Criminal.
                                         
                                        Criminal, sex criminal apple. Beatles wrote
                                         
                                        music that just makes people scream and clap.
                                         
                                        We have the self-doubt
                                         
    
                                        little guy
                                         
                                        externalized and
                                         
                                        we got, this is me putting in
                                         
                                        something that doesn't deserve to be there.
                                         
                                        And then we got oil boat.
                                         
                                        And oh, inflate dad's head.
                                         
                                        Inflate Dad's Head. I can't
                                         
                                        believe you wrote down Oil Boat
                                         
    
                                        before inflate dad's head.
                                         
                                        Flate dad's head for party, for birthday.
                                         
                                        So should we do the song?
                                         
                                        Yeah, the song.
                                         
                                        It's so embarrassing for the people.
                                         
                                        I've had a really fun time.
                                         
                                        I had a really, really wonderful time.
                                         
                                        Thank you so much to all of you for coming.
                                         
    
                                        I would like to promote the live episode, not the live episode.
                                         
                                        The 500th episode next weekend
                                         
                                        where we have to come up with 500 sketch ideas.
                                         
                                        If you want to see us die, tune in to the live stream.
                                         
                                        On October 19th,
                                         
                                        Whatever day that is for you guys.
                                         
                                        No, no, wait, it's the same day internationally.
                                         
                                        No, it isn't.
                                         
    
                                        I don't think it is.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Our October 19th.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But our October 19th is our October 19th, wherever you are in the world.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
    
                                        And so listen to that.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Starting at 8 a.m. Australian Eastern Standard Time.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        But to me, it's Australian Eastern terrific time.
                                         
                                        Terrific time.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's going to be an Eastern standard time.
                                         
    
                                        stand a terrific taunt.
                                         
                                        Right?
                                         
                                        Fuck off.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        So I guess
                                         
                                        thank you very much
                                         
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                                        Thank you.
                                         
    
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