Two In The Think Tank - 514 - "CAN YOU BOLOGNESE IT?"

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, Andy. Andy. Andy, remember that you wanted to, remember you wanted to promote the hats at the beginning of each episode? Yeah, and that was something you were told. Can I do the sound behind it while you promote it? Yeah, go, go, go, you do the sound. Hey, are you a listener of two in the think tank? Well, why not get an A listener hat?
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Starting point is 00:00:36 but, but, get to, get to, get a bit, get to, welcome to two in the think, but,
Starting point is 00:00:42 hello, welcome to two in the think tank, the show where we come up with five sketch ideas. I'm Andy.
Starting point is 00:00:49 And I am Alistair George William Trombly, virtual. Good evening or morning or midnight or afternoon or tomorrow to you.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yes. Good morrow. Good morrow, sir. To ask somebody to tell somebody good morrow, sir. Now, I'm assuming that morrow is just short for tomorrow. Yes. But it could just mean, or does it mean morning? Well, two night, right?
Starting point is 00:01:20 Now, look, ah, here we go. Two night. I wonder if the two sort of means this. Next. No, or it could be next. Two night, yeah, it must mean next. Number two. Upcoming.
Starting point is 00:01:35 The one we are going to. Yes, we're going to. Alistair, you are, you are ringing the juice of semantic logic from the dry husk of this word. Yes, yes, yes. And it is dripping, pouring down my face. Oh, yeah, I'm getting. and I feel refreshed. It's staining.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Oh, what is that liquid inside these words? Oh, it's like it's somewhere between oil and water. And water. We've done it. We've done it. We've cracked the third liquid. It was inside words all along. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:20 That's amazing. Some words are sloppy. And you get a sense that there's meaning with them, within them. to be squeezed out. But this one, it didn't feel like there was anything there. But you got it out. And so two night and two morrow meetings, you know, sort of the next morrow that we're going to.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Next morrow. Because moro, I reckon, morrow in general might mean sort of just more onwards. I reckon now I'm trying to do a bit of an alistate here. Oh, oh. I'm trying to squeeze. You come for the king. You better not miss, mate. I'm swinging wildly.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah, right. Look, I don't know, but you know how, like, in Spanish, manana, manana can mean morning and tomorrow? Mm. Mm. Didn't know that. No. How do they say tomorrow morning?
Starting point is 00:03:16 Manana, manana, manana? I think so, yeah. Yes. Like tomorrow, moro. I don't, look, I don't know if morrow. Why, if we had morrow, why would we go with morning? Yeah. Yeah. And if we had morrow, and if morrow could just mean,
Starting point is 00:03:35 yeah, good morrow, good morrow to you. Because people say good morrow. Is this where we started? Yeah. Yeah, right. I didn't really listen to that bit. Moro means the following day. Hmm. And the time following an event or the near future. So if we say, good morrow, are we saying welcome to the future? How good is the day after yesterday, today? Mate, the future is now. I think that's what the old-timey people were trying to say when they said that. They say, here we are. We've made it.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah. Or unless they're saying, like, they're wishing you a good morrow and we're just interpreting it as like a good today morning. Good today. You know what I mean? Like that we have been into, good morrow! Like that. And they're saying, have a good day tomorrow. Oh, no, look. Is an archaic, well, this is AI, but an archaic English phrase meaning good morning,
Starting point is 00:04:45 or simply a polite greeting to start the day. So even though it does mean the morrow. Yes. The future. Then tomorrow probably means the next future, which is the next day. But I reckon. What I like in what I like about it as a sort of greeting, right? It's not putting too much pressure on people, right?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yeah. You know, you can say, you can see somebody down in the shit, you know, writhing in the muck. In the muck, yeah. And saying good day might seem, you know, unfair or just putting too much pressure on them to sort of have a good day today when they're already in the muck. But say, good morrow, you say, you'll have a good day. tomorrow, you know, and that's just like, you've got some time, you've got some breathing room, hang out in the muck, and you know, you've still got basically 24 hours to sort of get your shit together. Not the shit you're in now. Leave that where it is. You could still turn this
Starting point is 00:05:46 around. You could still turn this around. In fact, you could, you could even be punching someone in the face and say, good morrow, you know. To the person you're punching in the face or somebody walking by? No, do that. No, no, no. No, there's only two people in the scenario. and as you could say it to the person you're punching in the face, you're still being polite with your words, if not with your fists, because you're saying you'll have a good day tomorrow. And I think that's beautiful. I think that's really nice,
Starting point is 00:06:14 even though we just discovered that it does mean good morning, or has been used as good morning, but we're in our new meaning of good upcoming future. That's right. I like that a morrow can sort of mean like the next available future. No, tomorrow, next available future. The next available future is an excellent phrase. And I think you could write a book called that.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And I don't know what it would contain. Okay, I'll just put this orphan title here. I'll write it down. Are we writing down an orphan title? Oh, can you write down orphan title as well as the title? I know this risks us getting trapped in a loop, which I know is one of your big fears, Alistair, to become trapped in a loop. But I think orphan title is a beautiful.
Starting point is 00:07:00 beautiful title to add to our list of orphan titles. That's right. You're right. You're absolutely right. Because it already makes you think that this title's lost its parents. It does, which means it has more to prove, I think. Do you think that you could get that by having the two words cease being used? Or like maybe the person, the last person who knew with the full meaning of the words died? Dyes in a plane crash. Yes. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:35 A Cessna, they didn't know how to fly. They had got lessons to take off, but never how to land. They should publicise a list of words and maybe even auction them off, police auction style, words whose meanings have been lost to time. You know, whenever the last person who knows what a word means does die in a plane crash, it should be on the news,
Starting point is 00:07:59 there should be a government auction where the words are read out and sold to the highest bidder. You know, we've said it before, but we are in need of more good words, good, solid words that sound like real words. I mean, you look at all these new words they're doing now with names for apps
Starting point is 00:08:22 and that sort of thing. And they're fucking with the spelling and they're, you know, they're asking us to imagine vowels that aren't even their invisible vows syndrome Or they're taking I mean they are taking a lot of like names
Starting point is 00:08:36 of old gods or something like that old Greek gods or whatever you'll find out that it's like oh this is the Greek god of fire or creation or something like that and you know and so they are they are and it is getting in the hands of billionaires
Starting point is 00:08:51 so they are kind of buying them and trademarking them you're right so basically exactly what I just said is already happening is happening But the money's not going to the coffers of the people. Yeah, no, no, that's the important distinction.
Starting point is 00:09:09 But you know what I've noticed? I don't think the Greeks are using their mythology enough. I completely agree. Yes, you're right. It seems... They've got one of the best mythologies. Yeah. They've got essentially a reality show,
Starting point is 00:09:26 a sort of keeping up with the Kardashians style. like drama drama comedy soap opera comedy yeah and I don't see a lot of stuff coming out of Greece I'm not seeing a lot of Greece's creative output it's not it's not landing in front of my eyes
Starting point is 00:09:44 not on the kind of falling across my desk you know and and and I feel like you know like China you see them with that with that monkey riding the cloud myth? I mean, we are seeing that. I mean, non-stop. Every time something China puts out,
Starting point is 00:10:08 it's either a dragon, a long dragon, or a monkey on a cloud. They know a good bit of IP when they see it. That's right. I mean, to the, I would say almost to their detriment.
Starting point is 00:10:23 But I don't feel like Greece has got anything else going on. Yeah, right. I mean, China, what a what a what a PR coup for them just the idea of naming the years every time there's a year
Starting point is 00:10:36 they're like this is the year of the rat and where and then everyone's walking around being like did you know it's the year of the rat and it's on the news and stuff and they're and they're like getting their name out there into the into the zeit and also into the geist Alistair and we
Starting point is 00:10:53 and Greece should be doing something like that you know that's it's it's It's, it's, it's, it's just a way to be part of the conversation. I think as a world. Or they auction off that mythology to pay off their enormous national debt because I'm talking about their debt more than I'm talking about their deities. That's right. Dight, Aetis, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Day titties. Day titties. Diet. More than I'm talking about they titties. Yeah. Dight. Absolutely. And, and I think that as a, as a. world. I think that we should try to motivate Greece to get up off the couch.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'm a bit scared of what they'd be capable of, to be honest. You know, that is my big one, big fear because, boy, they've got, is it that they don't feel like they've got anything to prove? Or because they've done it all, right? And they've been to the top. They've seen the view and it's not that great. I think there's that possibility. on frying cheese, which I've got to say, I think that that's probably where the end was.
Starting point is 00:12:03 That's why you stop. You go, once you've found fried cheese, you're like, well, I guess we've done everything we need to do. You're right. Maybe that's the real pinnacle, you know, maybe once you get to the top of that mountain, there's a little old man up there and he whispers into you, you don't need the bread. He whispers it into you. Not necessarily into your ear, but he whispers it into you somewhere. That's all I'm saying. When he says you don't need the bread, does he mean like,
Starting point is 00:12:28 like as in you could make a grilled cheese sandwich where it's like two bits of fried cheese and you put a bit of ham in the middle or something? Yeah, basically. He's saying just fry the cheese, baby. Just fry the cheese. And then you come back to the... He's just got a hot plate.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah, come back to the bottom of the mountain. And... You've got a tablet, but it's made out of fried cheese. Yeah. And you shave your philosopher's beard because you don't... Sorry, Alastair, I wasn't listening to what you said. When? When you said, you've got a tablet, but it's made out of fried cheese.
Starting point is 00:13:06 That's really, really great. Like, imagine those Moses' Ten Commandments tablets, but their hunks of Hulumi. Imagine the Greek prophet coming down off the mountain. the people gather that at the bottom see he's got these two big slabs in his arms they're like those are the commandments yeah and that but then they see as he gets a bit closer they see that there's a sort of grease seeping into his into his tunic right around them they're starting to be like that doesn't look like um stone or even clay and then as he gets closer they see they're not they're not stone tablets. Those are
Starting point is 00:13:53 enormous fat slabs carved off a giant hunk of Hulumi. And he slams them down onto a rock in front of them and they squelch and bounce like rubber. Like that and they're like, careful
Starting point is 00:14:13 your cheese is cooking. He goes that's exactly what I want. He drizzles some olive oil over the top. Yes. sprinkled some coarse Mediterranean sea salt I mean how good are those
Starting point is 00:14:27 hunks when they're the the the Hulumi that you get in the little packets from the from the supermarket to my mind doesn't get you quite
Starting point is 00:14:41 the sort of slightly melted rubberiness that you need from like true perfect Hulumi you need to in like a massive block and really have a big slab.
Starting point is 00:14:55 And I think there's an emergent phenomena with a slightly bigger slab of, or even say a vastly bigger slab of Huluming, where you just get a big more. Could we go bigger, Andy? Could we go bigger? Is there any reason? No, but can we go bigger than vastly bigger? Than vastly.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I want to go bigger. Gigantamax? Dina max it, mate? Can we jogenta max it, mate? that is what I would be if I had the Gigantamax technology with those Gala particles from the island of Gala
Starting point is 00:15:31 I'd be sprinkling it on food I'd have a little Gala particle grinder in the middle that would be the third the third I know but that's what spice
Starting point is 00:15:43 yeah third slice spice on the on the table SALT salt yes and Gala and Gala particles
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yeah. They're like pink, right? I don't know. I actually don't. I don't know if Galla... Galar is a region. It is a region, but Galar particles, I believe, are something, and I believe that galar particles are involved in the Gigantamax, or possibly the Dynamax process. And I'm getting this information sort of third hand from very reputable sources, my boys who pour over...
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah, their energy particles originating in the legendary Pokemon eternity. Oh, are they originating in a Pokemon, do they? He produces them, maybe from an anal gland, like a beaver with that stuff we put into... Have them pressed. You've got to get Professor Oak to stick his... Eternitus's anus. Eternet anus. Express yourself.
Starting point is 00:16:49 We do, you do call it expressing the... their anal glands. Yeah, and they do talk about the creative juices flowing. They do, don't they? Yes. It's something they discuss. Alistair, you go. You go.
Starting point is 00:17:06 The floor is yours. Firstly, with this whole gigantic maxing thing, I never understand. I thought for me that was when Pokemon started to get fucked up because I don't understand how being bigger. Are they getting more mass? great question you know are they getting
Starting point is 00:17:25 heavier and stuff like that because it's like it seems crazy that you both get a chance to make your Pokemon really big for a little bit and I don't know yeah it's like they're obviously
Starting point is 00:17:37 crazily big where if they do get way more mass you could absolutely just crush the other Pokemon and you just got to get bigger faster step on the other one yeah yeah you just use it first you bestride the earth like a colossus
Starting point is 00:17:53 and you grind them under your hoof. I don't understand it either. I think it might be a bit, I think it might be very Japanese. I think, you know, you look at your Godzilla's, your mothrus, they love a giant creature like that.
Starting point is 00:18:09 You look at even power ranges, you know, that weird witch who lived on the moon or whatever, whenever she sent down a monster, she'd always let it fight normal size for a bit until it was almost defeated. Then she'd use her trident and make it enormous, okay? And then the power ranges would have to make themselves enormous or like join their robots together or whatever
Starting point is 00:18:32 until they were the same size. And then the battle would continue. It's this thing. I don't know where it comes from. Could be their mythology. And look, there's another nation that knows how to squeeze the thick oily juices out of a mythology. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I'd say maybe they're the masters. They could be the masters, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Australia, I don't think we've done super well with it. I think that's a different issue for Australia, though. I don't think that like the nation of Australia probably has the right or the level of comfortability to go juicing the rainbow-sumption.
Starting point is 00:19:19 serpent mythos, for example. Oh, absolutely. No, no, absolutely. I think even that whenever there's like, you know, whatever, like, the mythology of what Australia is now, where we're still sort of showing people standing in the outback. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, with a cowboy hat on and things like that. That doesn't even ring true. Like, even at a time when that was, you know, much more of a thing, it still was a thing for
Starting point is 00:19:48 such a small population of Australians. Yes. I've never seen a guy do that in real life. Yeah. Well, sort of like, you know, sort of tap his acubra and dust comes off of it. Yeah. You know? And he sits down by a woodmill that's spinning.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Flies away from his face like that. And then, I guess, what does he do? He sits in the dirt probably and he runs his hands through the crack. earth maybe and then he climbs on the back of a sheep that it is dry yeah is he climb on the back of a sheep i guess so yeah australia rides on the sheep's back we shouldn't have told people that that's embarrassing that we can do yeah we should have probably maybe we should have breeded bigger sheep maybe we should have breeded breed it imagine that imagine a Clydesdale sheep uh I think there's still time.
Starting point is 00:20:51 There's still time. I think the flavor of lamb anyway is a little bit too strong. You need to dilute it with a bit more meat in there. If we could just make the sheep's a bit bigger, make them megafauna. Shouldn't the goal of every farmer to be making megafauna? And Alistair, we're back to Gigantamax. You know, you see it's in everybody. The yearning to super.
Starting point is 00:21:18 supersize your beasts. And I agree. I completely agree. Imagine that. Imagine if you, if this is what the CSIRO should be doing. Yeah. Get back to what they did.
Starting point is 00:21:31 They've been distracted. They're doing fucking diets or whatever. No, guys. Diet books. Come on. What, what think, go back. Wi-Fi? No, look, go back to what you do best.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Better sheep. Better sheep. And plus, wasn't Wi-Fi off the back of, of like something about sheep right that was about yeah
Starting point is 00:21:53 it was through wool studying wool that they did it you're focusing too much on the hair of the beast not enough on the beast on the beast
Starting point is 00:22:01 on the beast itself imagine if they kept that you know when they originally I don't know what they did did they invent
Starting point is 00:22:07 the merino something like that right whatever they did because they started up doing great stuff with sheep imagine if they'd
Starting point is 00:22:13 kept up that focus right if it had just been sheep where we'd be imagine the sheep we'd have now. We wouldn't need Wi-Fi, okay, because we'd be inside, we'd have a symbiotic
Starting point is 00:22:25 relationship with some sort of giant sheep, right? We'd probably be plugging our tails into them, avatar style, okay, and tapping into some sort of global sheep-based consciousness. That's right. You know, achieves a sense of oneness with all life. You know, that's where we should. be. But they've been discred. I agree. Wetware.
Starting point is 00:22:53 You know, sheep-based wetware where we have sort of like, we could probably have super computers that are run entirely on sheep. Yes. A network of sheep. One sheep for yes. Two sheep for no. You know.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Every family would have a herd. That's kind of what the mythology of Australia implies. That there should be a herd in every home. There should be a herd. Yeah. And like, and then, and then I think the focus would then be back to young people having more land and a place to keep their herd, you know? Yep. I, yeah, I think refocusing the CSIRO back onto sheep, improving sheep, new sheep technology.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah. I mean, obviously with population density, it's going to be difficult for everyone to have that. that bit of land, but look at what about this? I mean, if the CSIRO were doing their job, we'd have vertical grazing by now. Like, yes, we've got those vertical gardens on the side of skyscrapers in the city. You know, you see that green wall
Starting point is 00:24:02 of whatever those, that foliage is. If the CSIRO were on the ball, there'd be sheep grazing on that. They'd have, I don't know, they'd have webbed feet, or they'd be sort of genetically spliced with a gecko, and up they'd go. Goats are essentially vertical.
Starting point is 00:24:18 climbers, right? There you go. How far away is a sheep from a goat? It's a sheep that's been bitten by a radioactive spider. Goat. A goat? A sheep that's been bitten by a radioactive goat. And so he's got all the traits of a goat.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Mm. All the traits. My grandfather. Fleecy hair, white, sheep-like head, um, rectangular pupil. goat-like appearance those rectangular pupils do they go vertically or horizontally
Starting point is 00:24:56 horizontal don't they horizontal it's like a letter box like a like a slot like you could post a letter in there like Ned Kelly's eye appearance there yeah he had a sort of almost like a
Starting point is 00:25:11 a goat cyclops kind of thing going on I mean, that's another thing we would have at the CSR-R-W would focus is a one-eyed sheep. A one-eyed sheep? I mean, do they really need the two? What are they doing perceiving depth? But also, like, do we really need both goats and sheep? Don't you think that we could just have one?
Starting point is 00:25:39 They're close enough to each other. Just like maybe the males could be the ones with the goadies, and the females are the one with the wool. The males are the ones with the goatees. Basically, males or goats, females or sheep. That's basically how it should go. You're right. But, I mean, that might be a bit more political than you'd like it to be, Alistair. Do you think so?
Starting point is 00:26:05 I mean, I guess it depends on the preconceptions that you're booing. But, I mean, I think there might be too much baggage for you to start to go out there and really get. the uptake. I think that's an idea who's time of course. I've got science on my side because it's CSRO. CISO. Cesar O'O. I can't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Do you know Marino sheep were bred basically in Spain between the 12th and 15th century? By the CSIRO? Please, I've got my fingers crossed. Come on. I'm not a hundred century. Come on. I'm not sure. CSIRO.
Starting point is 00:26:43 It sounds like a Marino CISO. I mean, it could be a Spanish. word. Saro. Chiro. It does end it. It does end it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah, so it's male. Is there a, is there a, is there a, siara? Like a, like a, for girl science? Yeah. Chiro, chira, chiro. Andy, we are not coming up with a lot of solid, you know, ideas today, but I'm still having a fun journey. We are talking excitedly. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Exactly. We are in a heightened state of being. Yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't take that away from anyone. What about like a prequel to Seinfeld, where they're all babies? It's really good. The Muppets sort of did it, I think. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Muppet babies, but Seinfeld babies, I mean, fucking hell. It's such a fun idea. It should be, it should. be something that just remains this idea but you say that now someone will be on their AI they'll be making that that'll exist I bet it exists already in the three seconds since you said it if you wanted if you wanted Seinfeld babies I guarantee it's out there and yeah that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a you know we got a reckon you're sad about yeah I'm you sad about but then also at the same time isn't it kind of like
Starting point is 00:28:24 I mean, because is it better that we just do it about our style, which is where we kind of leave things to never be made? Never be made and never even fully explored. Right? We just sort of say the idea, bank the endorphins of the absurdity and move on to miss the next. There's plenty more opportunities to miss just around the corner. Muppets tonight.
Starting point is 00:28:54 episode 107, they did a signfeld babies episode like sketch. Oh my God. I assumed you just meant that there was Muppet babies, right? No, no, no, I mean, no, I was saying there was Muppet babies, which is
Starting point is 00:29:10 why I guess it makes sense that it was the Muppets who thought of making Seinfeld babies. Those guys invented making things babies. That's right. Now, of course that sounds like a silly thing right because a silly statement because obviously people have been making babies but they haven't been making adult things babies they've been making
Starting point is 00:29:35 things that are kind of pre-babies into babies yeah i wonder if you could you could own the IP for making babies things babies i wonder if they've got a defensible case of the idea that like yes this x y z but babies um is their idea. I mean, now that I say it, X, Y, Z, the alphabet thought of making things babies. What if there was a baby A? What if there was a baby B? Yeah, that's true. I know, but they never called it that. We could, we could probably come in, and we could probably sort of Pichu the alphabet, right? You know, the way that they kind of, like, Pokemon added Pichu, and it was sort of like baby Pikachu, you know, but it was only like, you know, a few generations in. The prequel, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:22 So we could probably add a smaller letter. This is the thing I don't like about Pokemon is the way that the Pokemon can choose not to evolve. You don't like that? I don't like that. I mean, I personally liked that they had agency. But I think it's a bit like infantilizing, you know, like, oh, you're a man baby. You know, you're basically saying I'm never going to grow up. I'm not going to leave home.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I'm going to stay. with my parents. Stasis is death. It's sending the wrong message to kids, right? Everybody has to grow up eventually, even people. Do they? He's got to become a right-you, okay? Yeah, I don't think he does.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I think that, like, I think that maybe also some of that, like, rigid thinking, you know, is maybe deeply embedded in you from your own upbringing, where you feel like maybe you've been told that kind of thing. but I think that people can also just remain. Like, I think that you remain more childlike than maybe your parents did. I agree, Alistair, and I want you to know I don't believe what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Okay. And I completely agree. I actually think I have been molly coddled. And you know what? Maybe I see something of myself in Pikachu. Yeah. I'm a Pikachu. I know I should become a right shoe.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I'm like, sometimes I look around and I think when am I going to be a right shoe? But. Yeah. I mean, I don't. I look and I go, I'm glad that I never had to become a right chew. I think that there's maybe there's things that will happen in my future that will, that will make me feel right to emotions, things that I try to, I've tried to avoid and things like that. Yeah, but I'm worried that you'll lack. the power, you won't have the skills
Starting point is 00:32:23 to deal with those when they come along. And again, I want you to know, I'm not believing anything I'm saying. Yeah. I think now without any metaphor, I, in Pokemon, I always liked the idea that
Starting point is 00:32:39 you could that you could not evolve a Pokemon and that it could be as strong as any other Pokemon. And I never liked that some Pokemon like, were were just born way stronger and that others kind of had a cap on how good they could get. At least in the games, I think maybe what made me feel that was in one of the Pokemon, I think
Starting point is 00:33:03 in the first season in Indigo League where he does get to the kind of the big competition near the end of the season and he fights against this ash battles against this bell sprout that was like unbelievably flexible, almost like a judo bell spruce. that was able to beat most of his Pokemon just by like bending out of the way and just chucking them using their own energy against them. You know, and I was like, oh, every pokeke...
Starting point is 00:33:31 Like, you should be able to have a bell sprout that is like... That is like the world champion Pokemon. I'm so glad that halfway through this, he said, okay, no more metaphor. Because if you hadn't told me that, I would be so struggling at this point to keep trying to map the metaphor onto reality.
Starting point is 00:33:50 What is the build? sprout in this situation. Yeah. I mean, just a weak, just a weak guy. But I think that in reality, I think like a weak guy, like a guy who's like meek and weak and whatever still has some strengths that potentially can allow him to get to the top or whatever, for whatever that means, you know, by just being, you know, like that weird guy, that weird, like young guy who would just, uh, would, uh, would, uh, like do a few.
Starting point is 00:34:21 use of fast food. He kind of has a bit bulgy eyes and dresses up in old suits. I don't know this guy. He's a YouTuber. Don't know this guy. But he just kind of seen. That's what you're saying. He found a path.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yeah. For a man like that. There's a path for everybody. I think that maybe the internet tells you what you're, like, what you're good at by just, well, or at least what they like you for by finding one thing that you've done. And then you go, all right, well, do that a million times then. Until everyone loses interest. But sometimes, you never find something,
Starting point is 00:34:56 you never find something that the internet finds really good about you. Do you like this internet? Oh, no. No, they don't. It doesn't. The internet does not like it. Yeah, I mean, that is interesting. And you're right, I think that there is,
Starting point is 00:35:17 there's always a way, right? I mean, that's why evolution works. You know, there's different strategies for success, different pathways. Here's an idea that I've had. Oh, sorry. No, I didn't have anything. Here's an idea that I've had that I think will be my big, it won't be a big hit, but it's a format that I've thought of for online,
Starting point is 00:35:45 is can you bolanese it? Right? Yeah. Well, I mean, if you can make Bolognaise a really good Bolognais out of walnuts, anything's possible. That's it. Because I think that maybe tomatoes aren't special. And I reckon that maybe you could follow the same like Bollonais recipe, but make it with other fruits and vegetables. You could make a eggplant bolognais. I think you could make a green, you know, like a Capsicum Bolognais. You could maybe make a walnut. cucumber bolognese yeah blueberry bolognaise yeah I mean that's that's great
Starting point is 00:36:29 would you get to the point where you're like the will it blend guy and you're trying to make a bolognaise out of iPhones or will you look I think I think we have to start with is it edible is there anything
Starting point is 00:36:43 yeah I would do it though I would yeah can you you know could you you know Carrots, carrot bolognaise, maybe. I mean, walnuts is a great thing to try. No, but I mean, I have made bolognaise with walnuts, right? Oh, but that's instead of the meat, not instead of the tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Yeah, that's instead of the meat. But you're right. You're right. Yes. This is for your, so you think bolognaising something means using the, having it take the place of the tomatoes in the bolognails. Well, that's what I'm making it mean. Andy. It's my intention and then I'm trying to transfer that meaning into your head so that you
Starting point is 00:37:26 understand what that means. Because I don't think to Bollinase it does mean anything before I determine it. Yeah, you're the first guy, like Muppet babies, right? They're first people to make things babies. You want to be the first person to make the word Bolognaz a verb. Yeah, exactly. I, and I'm just trying to bring down. Would you like, would you do a banana? Yeah, I absolutely would try a banana one. This is actually a really, really engaging and interesting format, Alistair. And I think you're going to go to some really dark places on this journey. But I also think that you might get closer to the light than anybody else ever has.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And I wish you. Thank you, Andy. Here's my problem with Pokemon, right? Yeah. I've seen like one episode of one Pokemon series all the way through that I sat down to watch with the boys. And you know Leon, right? And he's supposedly like the greatest Pokemon master or whatever
Starting point is 00:38:39 in all of the Kanto region or maybe the whole world. I think it might be, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he might be a world champion. Anyway, there was this, like there's never any darkness, never any true darkness in Pokemon, right? Yeah. Everything's always ultimately awesome and everything always works out great.
Starting point is 00:38:57 But there's like one episode where like Ash is supposed to be catching up with his friend, Gary or something like that. But instead he's hanging out with... It's basically his main enemy, Gary. Instead he's hanging out with Leon, okay? Yeah, but I want you to know that Gary is like his original enemy. Okay, so maybe not him.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Maybe it's some other guy. Go? I don't know. Yeah, it could be Go, yeah. Yeah, and he, Gary, that's crazy that he's called Gary. And instead he's hanging out with Leon, right? And meanwhile, this girl is telling Go, you know, she's saying, you know, yeah, Leon, yes, he seems great, but there's something else there, something else in there, right?
Starting point is 00:39:45 And you see this day that Ash is having with Leon. And Leon, and it's going really well. And then, like, there's this moment where they're on the top of a mountain or whatever. And Leon's like, loves Pokemon so much. And he tries to rescue these birds, okay? And you're like, oh, this is where it's going to be, right? he tries too hard he's trying too hard to to be the best to save everybody okay and there's going to be a consequence for this and we're going to see oh there's actually some darkness in leon it's not
Starting point is 00:40:28 the best to be the best yeah and uh instead it works out great everything's he he succeeds they have an even more incredible time and the message of The episode seems to be, look, Leon's not everything you think he is. Yes, he seems like the champion. But actually, he's also really fucking cool. Can't wait to watch Ash try to defeat this guy. The fact that like, oh, even for a second, we tease the possibility, there could be something more to this.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah. And there isn't. I mean, maybe it's a double faky. Maybe it's a triple faky. They might have known exactly what they're doing. Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, I don't know. Tell me if this is darkness.
Starting point is 00:41:24 In one of this sort of like probably first 15, 20 episodes, it could be like the third episode or something like that. Ash goes to a town. Pikachu murders eight people and they bury the boys. He doesn't quite. But he goes to a town, maybe pewter city. And there's a gym there. and he goes directly, I think, to go fight the gym leader, and it's Brock.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Oh, yeah. Right? And Brock has these rock-type Pokemon. And I think he only has Pikachu. He might have one other Pokemon. But basically, electricity is very weak against rock. And so he loses to Brock's huge onyx, which binds Pikachu. chew and crushes him a bit and then he loses
Starting point is 00:42:15 anyway he ends up on the outskirts of town there's a guy on the outskirts of town who is selling rocks right and he overhears or something like that that they
Starting point is 00:42:28 he lost to Brock and he seems to know a bit about Brock and he basically teaches as she's like I can help you beat Brock and and then he goes and he like takes him to like a wind not a windmill, but one of the, like, the water-based windmills where it's like a, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:47 like there's like a wheel that the stream is turning and that generates electricity. Mm. Right? And he puts like electrodes on Pikachu's cheeks and he gets ash to like walk along the thing. So it's generating electricity and basically pumping Pikachu filled with like electricity and it seems to be hurting him and things like that. and it's like supercharging him in some like weird cheating way of like getting better and eventually he does go and fights Brock again and he's kind of losing
Starting point is 00:43:20 but he does have like bigger kind of you know electricity but luckily the something like I think maybe the electricity isn't affecting Onyx but it like I think it sets off the fire the like the sprinklers the fire sprinklers the fire sprinklers and then the water weakens onyx and then and then he then he uses electricity and then the water and the you know and the electricity kind of beat onyx anyway but he finds out during this that this older guy is brock's dad i wonder if we've talking about this on the show before oh okay right wearing a fake beard and that he abandoned the family and he has something like you know 12 children or 20 kids or something like that and abandoned Brock to just take care of all of them maybe the mom is dead
Starting point is 00:44:13 I'm not sure and then and then he didn't succeed in any way but then he just hung out on the edge of town selling rocks and then
Starting point is 00:44:25 teaching strangers how to defeat his own son I don't I don't know completely but I feel like this is what Elon Musk's dad would have done this feels like
Starting point is 00:44:39 big Elon Musk dad. Yeah. Yeah. No, that is correct. Yeah. I would agree with that. That he is always just doing interview and he's like, no, he was a terrible son and he's a terrible father. That's what he says about. There's going to be a real, there's going to be a real reckoning when the, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:00 that, like how in, you know, contact sports, there's all this stuff now about all those cumulative concussions and the long-term neurodural. degenerative effects, CTE. When that comes for the Pokemon world, it's going to be a disaster. You know, when they finally start doing some brain scans on those fucking Psydux or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Do you think that those big like over the top explosions that he has, do you know about Scydux's like big power thing? Vagely. No. Where he basically has a panic attack and then. And then he has like essentially like an EMT kind of brain wave thing that goes all. And then he goes like that. And it just kind of basically can destroy almost anything.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah. I was more just thinking about the way that like every battle ends with them being knocked unconscious, right? Sure. One or other of the Pokemon being knocked out. That's they that's, I mean they fight to TKO every single time. And that's, you know, even two or three of those things, you get into real bad territory. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I mean, one's probably not good. I think it's probably like the equivalent of drinking while pregnant. And then if we find out the Pokemon are drinking while pregnant. Well, in a way, aren't we all pregnant with our own brains? You know? That's true. It's like this little thing that we carry inside our skull womb. Our what?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Our skull womb. The womb of the skull. Of course, it's the womb of the skull. You know, it would be nice? Imagine that. Imagine like a bone womb that you've got to crack open to get the baby out. Yeah. Oh, like a sort of like a like a place for humans to give birth to crustaceans or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah. Wait, you know, your child didn't go into the flesh womb. It went into the bone womb. Like that. That would be cool. It went down. It only happens in one and two million babies. Every woman has an abdomen, and she also has a crabdomum.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And the sperm went up into the crabtamine. And you're going to have a little crag baby. That's actually what it seems like the rib cage is. It looks like it's a little cage for a little monster that lives inside your bed. It does, doesn't it? Those are bars. Those ribs are. What are they trying to keep?
Starting point is 00:47:43 They're not trying to keep stuff out. They're trying to keep something in. The crabdomen. Alastair, I think we should go to words from a listener because I am hearing on the cusp of my hearing. One of my children, and I'm not going to say who, crying out for me to get. get him out of his cot. I can't believe you still have a kid in a cot. Look, I'll tell you something, and it's very crabdomen related.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Wally has been in a cot for a long time. He's almost three. Normally you'd be out of a cot by now, but this is what I, this is what, this is working smart, not hard, okay? Yeah. What you do is you let your child climb out and fall out of his cot once, he gets very scared he never climbs out again
Starting point is 00:48:40 okay yeah right and and now he just stays in there because the real cot is inside his mind okay that's true and that's where you want it to be all my other kids they keep climbing out of bed
Starting point is 00:48:56 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I remember the first time we took off the wall off the off the off the car so that the kid could get out and I remember just like us being in bed and then the kid just walking
Starting point is 00:49:08 to our bed and just being like, ha ha! We're like, I guess that's what comes with this freedom. Yeah. Okay, Andy, we got three words from a listener. Now, let's see, in the email, the listener is Alex Lloyd, Andy.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Alex Lloyd. Alex Lloyd says three words from a listener. Listener equals me. The thing I listen to equals T-I-T-T-T-T-T. And it says words colon. Thank you, Alex Lloyd, for telling us all the details that we need. Protocol. He's done it.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Feels good. I have actually no further questions. Yeah. Oh, I lost you there for a moment. Did you lose me? Did you? Oh, you're breaking up, Alistair. Am I breaking up?
Starting point is 00:50:03 And how? How could I be? Nothing has changed. I've just moved my. phone to a slightly different part of the desk and right I think you're back you better start you want to know where you are you are on top of a coffee cup great um I gotta start guessing some words guess word the first pointy pointy yeah not really close but voodoo oh um okay voodoo ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Starting point is 00:50:38 Voodoo doll. Voodoo. Dog. Dog. Voodoo dog? Very far away. Shampoo. Voodoo.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Shampoo. Pekaboo. I felt like you were going to get this. You got the last three words right. Three words? Three letters. Last three letters were right. It's bamboo.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Oh, voodoo. Bantu bamboo. That's fun to say. Voodoo shampoo bamboo. It's the Alex Lloyd special. Let's see. You've done great there. Ludo shaboo.
Starting point is 00:51:26 My bamboo, my bamboo, my bamboo boo-boo. That is, you should be what. Oh, how about this, a shampoo where you can wash somebody else's hair. Oh, wow. Yeah, really interesting. Okay, so it sort of uses, I guess, voodoo technology where like, you know, you could use a voodoo doll, you could stick pins in it, and you could...
Starting point is 00:51:51 Grooming. Yeah, you could groom... You could call... Well, traditionally you could use that to cause pain or illness to another person, a long way away. Using, I guess, like, I don't know if it's Bluetooth or... It could be Wi-Fi technology. It's not sure what the remote action.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Remote action. But think about this, right? You're in bed with your beloved. And she goes, ah, my face, the skin on my face feels really dry. And you're like, oh, really? And then we cut to the side, right, where we can see you rubbing a regular bar of soap on a voodoo doll of her cheek, on the cheek of a voodoo doll of her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Yeah, wow. I wonder why that is. He goes, oh, it could be the water? Maybe we have hard water. He goes, no, it's not the water. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Oh, maybe that could be, yeah. I don't know why I thought he was so confident. So you've been using voodoo on your boo-boo to, to, to use inadequate, inappropriate body wash for the for the sensitivity of the skin I mean do you think
Starting point is 00:53:13 to you does the prevalence now of like liquid body wash liquid soap you know and the death of the soap bar do you does that to you speak to like the modern malaise or like why we're not tough anymore why we're not real men
Starting point is 00:53:30 why women are not real men anymore because they don't use hard soap I find it difficult to think that, but let's say in a joking way, I still can't even entertain it in a joking way. Wow, I can't entertain it, and it can't entertain me, I'm afraid. No, I'm so sorry. Am I not entertained? Are you not entertained?
Starting point is 00:53:57 I am not. No. What about, and then on the other side, you're like, oh, it's weird that your face is dry. because she's like and yeah because my heels have been feeling really good and then you cut to her and she's been putting like
Starting point is 00:54:10 moisturiser on a voodoo doll on your feet because she's just found it a nightmare looking at your feet yeah how dry they are so do you think that what you were doing using that incorrect soap
Starting point is 00:54:23 to wash her voodoo voodoo face were you doing do you think yours was malicious and hers was yeah Yeah, I think, yeah, but you know what? That is an interesting thing, though.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Like, yeah, you're right, I do think that mine was malicious and that hers was in, you know, was good-hearted, but it was mostly because it was bothering her, you know, that she's doing it. But then, oh, wait, I had a thought and now it's gone. But look, we're in need. I think gaslighting as a term has run its course, right? in terms of what, you know, it's been overused now and it's lost all meaning and we're ready for another term for a form of relationship manipulation, okay? And I think voodoo facewash could be that, could take the place of gaslighting. And I don't know exactly what it's going to mean in the relationship context, but let's, because obviously gaslighting came from a movie called gaslight.
Starting point is 00:55:28 right yeah let's make the movie called voodoo face wash it's about a husband who subtly undermines his beloved by uh she loved his she loved there's the in a relationship in a heterosexual relationship there's a he love it and a she loved it and the he loved it is uh undermining the uh she loved by using voodoo to causes skin, face skin to dry out by. Is the guy the she loved it? No. Oh, wow, because he's
Starting point is 00:56:06 loved by the she. Loved by the she. The she loved. It's really interesting. The, uh, there are two types of B-loveds. There are the he-loveds and the she-loveds. And of course, the day that they love it's. And the by-loveds. Um,
Starting point is 00:56:24 by-loveds. Um, you know what? But I was wondering then, What about stuff like, you know, like it's a voodoo doll for fixing the tiny little things that annoy you about a person that aren't worth bringing up? Really good. There's just like something about how their hair falls that there's always like one strand that lands in front of their eye and it annoys you. And so you get a voodoo doll of them and you just cut that off. Yes. You know?
Starting point is 00:56:52 That's good. Or you like, or you can get like the the iBugger out of their eye through the, voodoo things without having to keep telling you no to keep telling you yeah yeah um subtle voodoo for minor complaints do you think you have to go to a proper voodoo practitioner or is this something that you could do at home i think it would be great to if you could just get a voodoo doll from a regular practitioner or professional and then you can do whatever you want you know ongoing Yeah, I think that's great. I think there'll be a real market for that.
Starting point is 00:57:35 All right. Well, let me take you through, and maybe even a horror movie in it. Andy, let me take you through the sketch ideas. We've got a couple of orphan titles here at the top. We've got the next available future and orphan title. We've got motivating Greece to make more from their old mythology, try to get them going. Lading grease. They kind of were slowed down by frying cheese,
Starting point is 00:58:00 both Hulumi and Saginaaki. Yeah. We got getting CSRO back into sheep. I wonder. I got this terrible feeling that like every single idea on this episode is something that we've talked about at length before. Yeah, that's okay. Except for baby Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Yeah, which has already been done though. Yeah. We're going to do it. We're going to do it non-Muppets. We're going to do it with real babies. And then we got, can you bolognaise it? We got Pokemon CTE. We got ribs are a cage for the monster that lives inside your chest.
Starting point is 00:58:34 We got the crabdomin. And we have the Voodie Beauty Care or the Beauty Face Wash. The Voodie Beauty. The Voodie Beauty. Andy, let's do it. Let's do it. message us about hats. Thank you so much for listening to Two in the think tank.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Message us about hats. How are they going to do that, Alistair? Anywhere. You can message us on Instagram. Maybe me. Message me on Instagram. A trombly virtual or you can look at our two in tank and find me through that. Or message the two in tank, but it's just like it doesn't send me as many notifications for that one.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Just Addis and Haddis. Addis and Hadis. Yeah. And that's about it. I don't think we're up to that much right now. if you want to contact us though just contact us go for find a way
Starting point is 00:59:31 yeah yeah yeah you can do it we'll respond I'll respond a little bit quicker than Andy that is Alistair I think you think that I am not good at responding but you're in a different fucking time zone mate yeah I'll
Starting point is 00:59:44 I know but you live more of a ritechu life than me that's true I do live a bit more of a Pikachu life at the moment And we love you. And he's got to get his kid out of the cage. Bye.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Bye.

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