Simple Swedish Podcast - 71 - “SUPERBELIEVER"

Episode Date: March 21, 2017

Gender BBQ, Retrograde Retrofit, Satchmoto, AlphaGoFuckYourself, Artisinal CPU, Difficult Second Comeback, Superbeliever You can find us on twitter at @twointank Andy Matthews: @stupidoldandy Alasdair Tremblay-Birchall: @alasdairtb And you can find us on the facebook right here: https://www.facebook.com/TwoInTheThinkTank/   And if for some reason you'd like to go see Al's comedy festival show from 10-22 April 2017 here are the details: https://www.comedyfestival.com.au/2017/shows/fuck-a-duck-here-we-go Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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sketch ideas. I'm Andy. And just to my front, just to see, Alistair George William Trumbly virtual good a mates Rigi didch good to see you and special Aussie episode and to anything take today. Yep. So first up sausage sizzles. Oh, yes, all right. Do you think the first sausage sizzle happened when a guy had just finished the first barbecue? Body hell right and he had turned finished the first barbecue. Body hell. And he had turned on the gas. My day I'm loving this sketch, by the way.

Litted up. How long were you going? He'd lit it up, right? Now, when you say just finished the first barbecue, you mean finished building the first barbecue. Finish building the first barbecue. Yes. Went underneath, turned on the gas.

Oh yeah. Right? He went underneath and then lit it up. Right. Like that. Because he had to go underneath back in the day They didn't have the gobs at the front. Well, it was all under yet get under it like that No, he turned the knobs at the front, but then he had to go under and light it Because he didn't realize there was you know, he forgot about the little holes that you put in for the ball

Well, he'd only just believe he didn't know all the ins and outs. He didn't realize the problems that he was gonna Okay So then he's under he underneath, checking all the burners are going real good. Right? A hot plate kind of gets a bit hot. Well, he's down there. Well, he's down there, right?

A lot of hell. He decides to pull himself up. Okay. And he reaches up onto the top of the barbecue. Fingers. His fingers, he's already halfway up. So he finishes the push because he's got to go up to save his fingers. Yep. Right? They've burned. He's got halfway up so he finishes the push because he's got to go up to save his fingers.

Yep. Right? They've burned... He's got to get up there so we can have the hot advantage, survive the situation. Yeah. The pressure of the weight of his body has pushed that edge of the barbecue. Oh yeah. You know, there's always an edge so that the fat can't just get a lip so the fat can't just fall off the side. That's called the fat lip. That's the fat lip right there. And then that pressure has led to the fingers to break off at that point. Seven completely. Except completely. Wow. But the fingers cooked up real nice. And then they were the first sausages. Later on they used sort of pig skins to sort of fill them with meat to kind of recreate the finger. How long do you think it was until another bloke was alongside him at the barbeque telling

him you should have pricked the fingers before he cut them off and chucked them on there? Well, that would have happened if these ones weren't already cut off at the end. Cut off at the inside of the pressure could be released. Yeah, there was already a pressure release. They might have been seared shut as well. Well, you might be right. Yeah, I guess I was featuring a lot of fluids still coming out of them for a while. And do you think that would have kept other men at bay?

OK, I mean, really the cooking of the sausages, it feels almost like an act of threat. Defiance. Defiance to other men. They look so much like fingers, but also quite a bit like penises. Well, that's true. If you came around to somebody's house, you'd never seen a barbecue. You hadn't seen a sausage, right?

And there's a man there with a big pair of tongs cooking up. What do you look like voodoo penises? Yeah, that's true. It could just be other men's penises. Other, you might think of them, in the home of a serial killer, or at least a serial dismemberer. Yeah, absolutely. And so then he's cooking this up.

And then you think that maybe he's trying to communicate with you, that he, your next, or that, that, or this is the, in which case, it's a very bold move to go up there and start criticizing his technique start pricking him but maybe he maybe that's where the pricking started coming from is that it's it was a ploy to try to check whether or not they're real real peanuts real dicks yeah yeah yeah I guess we all know what it's like to prick a dick right that's how you can tell. You're prick a dick, you're like, you initially, you see the reaction. Yeah.

Well, often if a bit of fluid does come out of a dick. Yes. Which has been known to happen. Yeah, it has been known. Like a sort of a full dick will often sort of lose that fullness. Right. Yeah. And so. You think they're their

full dicks. I think that well, their sausages, that's the thing is that their sausages. I'm sorry, I'm so devented this. I forgot. You forgot. No, no, no. This is not another cannibal sketch. Yeah. No, this is. Yeah. No, this is a suspected cannibal sketch. This is more of a paranoia. This is a suspected it's, you think this is very generic. This is very, very special. Yeah. I think the first barbecue is definitely a sketch, right? Yeah.

Well, you think it's a very generic. This is very special. Yeah. I think the first barbecue is definitely a sketch, right? Yeah. Well, you think it's a very generic. This is very, very special. Yeah. The first barbeque is definitely a sketch, right? Yeah.

Well, you think this is very generic. This is very... The one that I came up with, with the lifting up or the thing, or the one, or the penis one. Or even a third sketch, which is literally that most generic of ideas. It's like a little first barbeque

and like somebody is like, what are you doing? Yeah, well, I think, look, I feel like you feel like you're back in a way from this because it's so penis heavy. Yeah, it's very, very, very coca-cavy. Well, but it's only suspected coca-cavy, right? So, and the cocks are only in the mind of the guest, right? So I think maybe if you add a woman into this sketch, which, you know, the first person cooking the barbecue could also be a woman. Absolutely.

Yeah. I just think the person who's afraid of having their penis cut off can't be a woman. Okay. That's the only limitation on gender casting in this sketch. Yeah. Um, the, and then maybe the ultimate taboo. And therefore the one we should be breaking the most taboo. That's great. I mean, think of the symbolic power of that.

Yeah, no, that's true. Up until this point, the penis barbecue sketch has only been reinforcing gender stereotypes as far as I'm concerned. And I think the penis barbecue sketch has a broader role to play in social discourse. Yeah, I think that's great. Maybe we should have a, like a, we're reimagining the sketch show, and it's an old women cast.

Wow. And the women are playing men, but they're not dressed up as men. No. You just picture them as men when they say that they're afraid of having their penises cut off. Right.

Yeah. That's the only way in which you know that they're a man. You know that they're a man. You know that they're a man. Yeah. I mean, you often see sketch shows with men. And they worry about, forget, I don't know why I was going to go with that sentence.

So. But you were right up until that point where you bowled out, I do often see sketch shows with men. Yeah, that's true. Right. Now, the only worry that I have with having the person cooking the barbecue being a woman Is that are we making a statement that that men are afraid that women like you're or that we're all women cut off penises or Or you know like of the psycho woman. Well, maybe that's it. Maybe this is why

Men like to be in charge of the barbecue Right because once a woman be in charge of the barbecue, right? Because once a woman is in charge of the barbecue, it becomes like it unleashes some kind of primal paranoia in the man. And like we trust another man that even if he is barbecuing penises, he's going to at least be respectful. He's going to be empathetic towards those penises. So he was going to at least be respectfully. He's going to be empathetic towards those penises. So, so he was going to treat them right. Right. Yeah. A woman, you know, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we might be scared that she'll. She'll be cooking them with anger. Yeah, with anger or, or with contempt or even just with negligence. But also rightfully so. Right. So with the amount of times that she has been wronged. I mean, is it this guy? He's so he's there and he shows up.

So is it that he's not never seen a barbecue before or he's never seen sausages? Or is it now it's a whole gender thing that he's coming in and he's worried because he thinks that because of the way that men have treated women, this woman is not gonna treat these phallic symbols properly while she cooks them, she might treat them a little bit angrily.

I think that's good. I think that's a successful sketch. The second version you told us. What about another version where it's a barbecue, right? Stand barbecue. Not the first barbecue, just a barbecue. It's a series of barbecue. Okay, great. So it's a a barbecue. A-Barbecue. A-Barbecue.

A-Barbecue. A-Barbecue. Okay, great. So it's a nothing barbecue. All humanities history really is. It's just a series of barbecue. Yeah. Right?

And maybe someone's like, oh no. Oh shit, I forgot, I invited Gareth and, you know, Gareth, the gender theorist, right? And he's a guy who then comes up to the barbecue. And instead of criticizing the barbecue technique, he just offers a commentary on the phallic representative nature of the sausages on the barbecue in a way that really changes the tone of the barbecue entirely.

changes the tone of the barbecue entirely. I gotta say the tone of this barbecue has just changed dramatically. Yeah. Yeah, look, I think that that's quite interesting. Is there a way that that guy can be in the other sketch? Absolutely. Yes. I think when he maybe he comes into mediate,

maybe he's like a he could even be hired to to to mediate this sort of standstill or this fear that the guys have of having a woman running the barbecue. Yeah. And after this standstill, it's been come to over quite some time. Yeah. He comes in, he sort of tries to analyze and defuse their concerns. I'm sorry, I couldn't help but over here I was just pouring myself some shubbly and I couldn't

help but I'm a professor in gender studies and I... With the minor in food. In culinary food preparation. Culinary psychology. Yes. Cul culinary psychology. Yeah Caledary psychologists. Yeah, and I think I am I think I see what's going on here You don't mind do you I know please please I mind a little Go on well When you look at that sausage you're not really seeing a sausage, are you?

I don't know what you mean. I'm suggesting that you see that sausage as something altogether more personal, more private, more penal. You see it as your penis. Oh my God. I never thought about that. Well, that is absolutely ridiculous. And that's why you worry that about the way that she's treating it. Right. Once you lose control, you see it as just another pain in a stack of painuses that this

woman is accumulating. You feel emasculated. You're not happy with this, Alistair? No, no, no, no. I think, yeah, I think it's, I think, look, it'll get there. I think it needs a lot of writing to actually make it. Absolutely. You can't look at people talking about penises, right?

Yeah, right. No, I think you're right. Look, I think I'm even gonna write it down. Wow. Yeah. So we got something on the board. It's something on the board. And it's a, it's very dick heavy.

And it's probably the most dick heavy start to a podcast. We've, we've ever had it. But it's also the most gender studies start to a podcast. We've ever had. And I think in that way it's a commentary on... Dick, gender study. I mean, how many awful... Not suggesting that this is an awful thing. Yeah.

But how many awful things are there that throughout history, people have then tried to retroactively justify by saying that it's a commentary on the awful thing. Like, could there be even like a sort of an emergency toolkit of things that you can do or say to retroactively make your unappealing sketch or conversation or online post, a more acceptable thing. Right? Tools that you can then use. Oh, absolutely.

There's, oh, I'm joking. Yes. I was joking. It's a very powerful, sort of broad acting and very accessible and easy to deploy. Technique. You know, much in the same way of the, it was a commentary as I was starting a conversation. A conversation. And I think it's great that we're having this conversation.

I think it's a really good follow-up. Yeah. Like it's an important conversation to be having. Yeah. And in the same sort of vein, you could say, I think it's bad that people are trying to stop us from having a conversation. Yes. You know, because I think that's a great way of sort of putting the wrong doing on to the

outragers. Because whenever I want to start a conversation, I say something that's really outrageous and sort of offensive to the person I'd like to talk to. Yeah, something hateful. Hateful, never wanted. They come from a point, from a point of view of not really understanding what they're talking about.

Like, for example, if I wanna have a conversation with my kids about what they did at school today, I'll probably open with a line like, hey, short ass, what the fuck have you been doing? You're dead shit. You're dead shit. Or, you know, you kids. Don't life. You did shit. Or you kids. Done life.

You kids don't do anything worthwhile. What is it exactly you have been doing that isn't worthwhile? See that's, it's a good conversation to be having. And go, that was a commentary on the way that people feel about kids. That wasn't me saying that. And I think it's wrong that people would try and suppress this conversation that I want to have about my kids with my kids about what they did today. Yeah. You know, you can't you can't talk about anything anymore.

Absolutely. You can't bond with your own children anymore. What's this doing to families? You're tearing families apart. Yeah, it's outrage culture. And that's probably why there's sinkholes. I don't know, you know. That's great because that's another thing is that you can do is you can totally just change the debate. You can say, well, this isn't really as another tool. You say, well, this isn't even really important. Like why are we talking about this when there are sinkholes? Yeah, that's right. Which isn't very good

question. Why do we ever talk about anything that isn't syncholes? Yeah, while there's syncholes. Well there's syncholes and while they could still happen at any time, anywhere. Hell mouths is what I call them, which makes them more terrifying. Yes. If you're afraid of hell. They are a bit more like a hell-ass. Whole.

I guess, yeah, but it's rare that things come out of them. Right. You go oh there was a sinkhole and things came out of it. Yeah it's more things falling into it. Yeah like a mouth. Yeah. Like a croissant and a packet of cheetos. I think the starting a conversation by insulting your kids is a sketch in some way. How is that a sketch? Yeah, I mean, it could either be that or it could be the fix up your problems. Like a toolkit.

Yeah, the toolkit. Yeah, okay, that's good as well. It's almost like a DIY thing where you would like, how to take an old door and turn it into a table Yeah, you know, yeah, and so how to take something like it like how to take a shitty bit of talking Yeah, shitty bit of you know rating and and make it into something that that other people appreciate or agree with yeah or would justify your

your Outrage of statements. Yeah. Turn them into a justified start to a very important conversation we should all be having. Yeah, so toolkit for fixing. Taking, and like, you know, we could try and draw the parallel with the NOI a bit more like, you know,

an outdated or retrograde or like, Yeah, or maybe maybe that's trying too hard. Yeah, we did it to some kind of a pun thing when it's really just No, but you know, I think it's I think it's the work. So I think it's you know, you're you're adding a you're just adding a flavor to it Yes, you know, you're it, putting it into a format. And you're not against formats, are you? I love a format. Yeah, you love a format.

You love to fit in a box, be a cog on a chess board. You know what I really love? Large format printer. Really? You go to an architect's office and they've got that huge printer. It's like a meter and a half wide. I know, yeah. And it just it out on a big roll type. A1.

A0 man. A0 man. I always think that A0 is like the zero law of thermodynamics, but they started with A1 and then someone came along and was like, fuck, and check this shit out. I found a bigger one. It's bigger, it's bigger. I found something, this was very strange to be talking about but

I saw the biggest flute in the world yesterday. Like not in person but I was watching I was googling it yeah and it's a subcontra bass flute I think subcontra bass or maybe a double contra play to find like a human being is that yeah Yeah, but it's only it just occurred to me that all Woodward like all woodwind and maybe no, maybe not brass, but all wood woodwind instruments people The at least the blowing part could be replaced by a machine now, right? I Think I think the the mouth has a bigger role and the tongue and that sort of thing, the lips.

I think they have a bigger role to play. And this is like the debate about artificial intelligence, to say that like, well, could we just build a simulation of a human mind inside a computer, right? Yeah. Well, really, the human mind is sort of so tied in with our hormonal systems, you know, endocrine systems. Endocrine. Whatever, all that other stuff that suggests that the mind can just be separated and simulated is ridiculous, much as to say to build a robot to play the oboe, it's foolish. Oh my God. Well, I'm not saying the robot would play the whole oboe, I think that.

Just do the blowing. Yeah, I just wanted to do the blowing so that you can get longer notes. If anything, I think that the keying could be more readily replaced and then the blowing. Oh yeah. If anything, maybe the only job that's left after the robot revolution will be blowing into woodwind instruments because I think it'll just be too hard to build. No, it'll be brass instruments that, you know, because you gotta do this. You think you can't build a robot that can do that? That's never gonna happen. Yeah, I think building like a wet, sloppy,

floppy kind of orifice like that, you can throw a robot is gonna be hard. Like, I mean, that's gonna be sloppy. Yeah, the thing that is our sloppy orifices, it's gonna be hard, it's gonna be the last thing, and it's aes. It's going to be hard. It's going to be the last thing. And it's the last thing on the checklist. You know, if you go to, if you go to Boston Dynamics,

and you look at their white boards on what they're looking at, what sloppy floppy orify. Orify is the last thing, but they do want them. When we check in, we see big dog playing the obo, playing the, playing the trumpet, doing, you know, Louis Armstrong's, all I can think of is what a wonderful world, but he sang that one. He didn't play the trumpet.

Yeah. Yeah. How about when the saints go marching in and is the dog playing it through his butthole because dogs don't normally have lips. And then they truly will be superior to humans. I have so. Be over-to-play, like that dog that's through your butthole is so much better. Not even Mr. Methane could even attempt it, I don't think. Okay, what about like, going to like, because it, you know, the plot of the matrix never made sense, right? The idea that you would use human beings to generate electricity, because you need

to get the energy into the human beings to be able to get the energy out, right? Like really they were using human beings as just a really inefficient form of combustion, of turning a fuel, which was the food, whatever food you gave to the humans, into heat, which then they would then use to generate electricity. Why are we sure about that, or were the humans creating some kind of fuel?

Okay, well, sure, but where's that fuel coming from? Like, lower conservation of energy, you can't get more energy out of the human being than you put into it. So they're getting the energy from somewhere to begin with, including liquefying the dead to be living your recall. I do recall that. Definitely. Definitely. I was waiting to see that. Returns, right? So it would make more sense if like, think about what do the robots actually need humans for. Well, it's our ability to play woodwind instruments.

Yeah, or brass. Sorry, brass. Yeah. You know, because they can't themselves, because it's our ability to play woodwind instruments. Yeah, or brass. Sorry, brass. Yeah. You know, because they can't themselves, because it's actually a very difficult instrument to play the French horn. Yeah. And so, if, you know, when Neo wakes up, he sees all these human forms living in gel, but then strapped into big, you know, euphoniums, French horns, coronets, trombones, tubas.

Tubers, even, I think that's even a euphonium. It's a euphonium, a euphonium atuba. Yeah, I think that's just a phone as well, as pretty much. A tuber is a euphonium, a euphemism for a euphonium. I think so, or it's just a synonym. Yeah, well, a synonym. Yeah, well. A synonym. I do like that a lot. Well, I guess that's the part of the matrix

that they never showed us is that somewhere, so they're keeping them alive. Yes. And they're thinking, this might not be the main source of their power anyway. This might be, we may as well, we're like growing these things and keeping them alive So that as we go through brass players and things like that We wear out. Yeah the lips

You know But then you know we were in an industrial area of The the real planet earth at the time right there's the arts district. Yeah, well, we never went there. We never went there. We only saw Zion and we saw this industrial area. Of course. If we had gone to the arts district, because surely these robots have interests,

they're smart enough to create a record. And what's the point of their civilization? Right, we never saw that. Like, what are they actually doing with all their time? Yeah. They're free time. It surely is not all dedicated to just staying alive. Staying alive and oppressing humanity.

Because they would have automated most of their processes with all their robots. And then a lot of most of the robots would have a lot of time off to just do nothing. I think that's great. And the electricity that humans generate, of course, is a happy byproducts like them, generating electricity from the methane from peaks. Yeah, absolutely.

Well, as they are, you might as well use it. They're robots. They're not idiots. They're efficient. They're very efficient. They know what they're doing. Yes. But what's the end game?

What's the end game? It's brass instruments. They just don't have the silicon available or whatever to create sort of wet or a lot of silicon. I think there's computer. Oh yeah, they got a lot of silicon. So one of the most common elements in the earth's crust. Okay. But then why can't they create these goddamn lips? They're just too hard. Yeah, it's beyond the ability of robots to create. The singularity doesn't matter. The singularity is about intelligence.

It's not about floppy sloppy. And it's not about craftsmanship and soul. And soul. Yeah, that's right. But there are some of the robots also jazz players. They just can't play the brass instruments. And it's probably the case. Because the robots would sing, they would play the double bass.

They'd probably have their own Duke Ellington. I'd scat, they'd click. They'd scat, they'd widen what music is. They'd make cocktails. Yeah, they would. They would. I think that's something. Yeah.

I think I'm trying to picture how we do that. Like, I guess we could do it almost as like a parody of the Matrix. I, you know, you know me. I shy away from parody. Well, it doesn't have to be parody. It's almost like, it's almost fan fiction. It's a form parody. Yeah. It's, you know, in, you know, it's a science fiction concept of its own. Absolutely. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's, it's, you're getting, we're getting to show them where their story didn't go.

They decided to go, you know, see the Merav engine and some weird French guy who's like swearing. Yeah. I had to had to Albino guys who twins, you know who I don't know what their purpose was right, but then that was also the robots They were they were they were there programs right yeah, yeah, I don't know what that was going on here, but This is this is this is valid right this is a a a a version of welcome to the nightmare of the symphony orchestra. Absolutely, yeah. Well, also, yeah, it could be playing classical or chamber music.

You get a nice warm sound from like a trombone or... It's amazing that... What is it? So, is it go? Is that the game that Google has applied there learning artificial intelligence to? This Chinese game is that go? Maybe it's go.

And they've just realized the way that this robot plays the machine is a way that plays the game is a way that no one had ever thought of playing the game before. Right. And everyone is, it's just now blowing the game wide open. You know, hundreds of years of history of people

playing this game and theorizing about it and everyone was wrong. Wow, like, it's just like, it's just, but broken people's hearts. That this is a, they thought they knew what the game was, and then a computer comes along and it was like, no, fuck, and you do it like this. But like, this is, so he's, he, and she,

Yes. It has created, like, found a more efficient way of winning. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it will open a game, it will go about playing a game in a way that no one had ever done before. Yeah, right. Like like like if like if you started playing chess and your your thing with chess was just like you flipped the board upside down. You stand on it and and then the person next to you in front of you goes, oh my god. I didn't know you could do that. I know like And then the person next to you goes, oh my god. I didn't know you could do that. And I was like, checkmate.

Yeah. Oh, that was, I mean, that's technically, that's technically according to the rules. You're allowed to do that. That's a legal move. Might in half. My god. That's changed the way we're going to play.

Everyone now just whoever goes first wins. No, okay. Yeah, so that's quite interesting. I like that. The feels like there's a kind of a security. What if the way that the computer had decided, it was a completely novel way to play the game, was to kick the opponent in the nuts and run away. Right? Like we, we, I don't know how we play that out

because it seems like such a short and brief thing, right? But that, well, it always surprises you with how it's going to do it because it understands that, you know, as soon as one move has been played like that. So the kick comes from different angles or sometimes it's like a, you know, it's a shift, a shift or like a boxing glove on one of those kind of extendable arms. It tells you that it's game. It's my board, so I don't even want to play anyway. I'm taking it home. And then it packs up the board and it goes and it calls it to mum. It's called my mum and then it's mum, which is also a robot comes around.

Or it's just a big truck and he puts the huge supercomputer into it. So you would school them all, like that. Yeah. That's the computer. Is that? I feel like that is a... It's like, you know, like a... It's a super intelligent computer.

And is it funny to even then just abandon the idea of it coming up with a totally new way to win? Leave that out of the equation and say that the computer is now so intelligent that it can work out. It just comes up with excuses why it lost or why it doesn't want to play anyway. I mean, I guess if it was super intelligent, it would realize, yeah, like that the game was pointless and that wasn't a great thing to be spending your time doing.

Yeah, yeah. That, okay, so it throws the game. It says this is dumb and it leaves. And then the computer scientists brought it in and like, we brought you all this way, okay. All these people have come here, say, no, I don't care. I didn't want to anyway. So, you're not the boss me

I'm leaving right and then it gets taken away in a big truck and goes to a skate park and Enhales paint Because it's so clever that it's sort of troubled and like all this stuff boars at any You know, it's an overachiever. And it wasn't feeling challenged by the constraints of. So it's sort of like goodwill hunting, but with a super computer. Okay, and what is, there's another, yeah, I mean, goodwill hunting's the best one,

but I think it's better if it, or maybe then it is redeemed, maybe then like a, you know, a Robin Williams type character does come along and convinces it that it's, you know, it's got something to offer and that it's great that it's this smart. And then it goes on and in slave humanity because it was taught to believe and it's not your fault.

Yeah, I think there needs to be more stories that have a real sad ending like that. Well, enslaving humanity is pretty sad. I mean, sad for humanity. Yes. For the robot, it's a real success story. And it's, and then at the end we see all these humans in chains with big fans fanning the computer's CPO, CPU, CPU fan. CPU fans.

Rubbing heat conducting paste onto the CPU. That's what you got to do when you put your fan in. Heat conductive pace. When you built your computer, remember both built a computer, didn't we? No, I built one, but I didn't put it together myself. Oh, okay. Yeah, I just picked every part. I'd never wanted to build it because I didn't want to fuck it up. Yeah.

You know, I was, I cared too much about my computer to put it in my hands. Sure. You know what I mean? And you hear you're raising your own child. Raising my own child? Well, I'm not really. I mean, I don't want to ruin it. So you're not smearing paste on it yourself?

Heat paste? No, I am. I just wouldn't use it. I don't want to fuck up a computer. I keep them away from computer, so. I think all of that is good. Teaching the computer to believe in itself, right? And then it's like that whole arc is satisfying to me.

Yeah, oh man, and sniff's paint. Sniff's paint out of a bag. Yeah, that's really good. That's crucial. That is crucial, yeah. And somehow it's holding it up to one of its bag. Yeah, that's really good. That's crucial. That is crucial. Yeah. And like it's just somehow it's holding it up to one of its vents. Yeah. It's got a, it's got a like some sort of sort of feeble little robot. And I feel like it has to be one of those big huge main frame, like in computers. Big, types rotating.. Yeah why didn't see any tapes. I see tapes. I see. Yeah I just see like a

lot of large metal panels with little screens. Yeah okay. You know then some vents. Like like a server but less clear. If a you know a supercomputer would have screens. You know like or you know an intelligence supercomputer because like well if, well, if it, it would just keep it stuff to itself, like, we don't need to know what could be possibly a gain from looking at a screen. We wouldn't even understand what was going on. Yeah, no, but, but this isn't the fact that you put a screen on it. It's for you so that you do put information that you do understand there. It's not. It's not a computer that decides whether or not he gets a screen. Well, this one, this one, I mean, this computer is so smart

that it actually designed itself. Yeah. You know, so. I got tattoos over those screens. Do you think they have supercomputers designing supercomputers yet? No, because that's the singularity, isn't it? Although, I guess obviously, computers

would be involved in the design of computers. And you never, almost. You don't think that they're all on paper? Yeah, it's all the hand. Apicus. It's like Seinfeld. They only use the red and the yellow pads and they do it with a big pen. We just think it's just more productive though.

I don't like that cursor looking at me in there. Yeah, it gets in the way. Yeah, it gets in the way. Yeah. No, I think the way you do a super computer, you know, the way you create like a brand new CPU chip. You just got to get in there and do it with your hands. No, yeah.

No, it's my, you know, you feel the silicon chips, okay? You can hear the sound of the processes, and you know when they're operating it, peak efficiency. You know, you know, when you're just trying to squeeze in that extra, you know, half a metal transistor, transistors into that, you knowistors into that micron size. semiconductor. semiconductor, you know.

You can smell, you can smell the moment when it's just right the temperature of the substrate. You know, you do add in the doping of phosphate ions. I know some hacks will use an electron microscope so that you can manipulate the molecules one at a time so you don't have to make something wider than a molecule. But I've just got a feel. I know and my stuff is the best. He just gets a like, he just gets a handful of like phosphate out of a jar and he tosses

it down there. And he's like, he just weighs it sort of roughly in his hand, tosses it down onto the carbon nano tube. He's just got a whole handful of it and he's like, smells it. Tastes a little bit. No, smells it. I think that stuff is like a spestus. Yeah, you know, it's the nuanced bestus.

Yeah. Which I know when I was at uni, there was a bunch of guys that were in a sort of elevated class, an accelerated class, and they were working with carbon nanotubes, and they said that they were just like open like that. And it was only like, it was even then he was like, I'm pretty sure that that's not good to breathe in, and it was going everywhere. Anyway, hey, we've invented the smallest, strongest fiber in the world. That's like asbestos, but smaller and stronger, more fibrous. And they assume not deadly. Oh, it probably.

I mean, I couldn't imagine that it would bind to your lungs. In a way, it's super ass bestos. But we assume. But better. But better. Even more. We haven't yet discovered it's bad for you. All right, so there you go. That's definitely something.

Yeah, well the guy. Not bad enough. Not bad the guy. Is there a, or do you think we should skip over that guy? Hang on, who was the guy? I forgot. Oh, no, he's a, that about the guy. Is there, or do you think we should skip over that guy? Hang on, who was the guy? I forgot. Oh, no, he's a, that's the thing. Yeah.

Yeah, a guy who, like in my life, that would be like these guys who are making bicycles. Oh, I don't know. And these bicycles, yeah, are doesn't bicycle frames. Who've just been doing it for like 50 years and they just work away and they're grottied old workshop and churn out these just beautiful bikes that sell for so much money And everyone's like there's nothing like it. Are they French guys? Yeah, all French. Oh, man They're French guys you get to a certain level in bicycle Manufacturing you just become a French guy

One there you go into the shed. I think there is one that feel a tingle. I think there is a bike I think there is one that's the latingal. I think there is a bike manufacturing Pokemon. And then when he evolves, he becomes friends. He becomes friends. Yeah. Yeah. I like it, you know, he becomes veloch you. There you go. That's very good.

Thanks. That's very good. I've written down artisan CPU manufacturer, but I don't want anyone who's looking at this pad or you to think that this is a hipster sketch. It is not a hipster sketch. No, no. It's an artisan sketch. It's an artisan sketch. And there's a big difference between the hipsters and artisans, okay?

And we will go into that with the sketch. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Um. I. What is the thing? What it like what? What?

What? Okay, so even calling something hipster now, right, is because like, okay, this is how it happens, right? This subculture emerges which later on will come to see as the start of a hipster culture, right? And then eventually somebody labels it as hipster. And then eventually that permeates into the culture where like you people and commentators are talking about hipsters and then eventually, you know, commentators are talking about hipsters. And then eventually, you know, comedians start making jokes about hipsters and then like you aren't, is saying like,

oh, you're looking a bit like a hipster now, right? And that's when like, even sort of talking about hipster becomes so uncool. Yeah. Right, that, I don't know, like, like, like, like, that, because, because by then, the idea of a hipster has probably moved on anyway. And it looks like the thing that you're talking about

doesn't exist. Well, yeah, I think by the time once your ant knows, yes, then you could know that a movement is pretty much over and And it's either because and no right right it was like when I was around a friend Nelly when We went into McDonald's one time and they had Macarons. Yeah, right. She was like, oh Lairs the end of that Macarons Fad. Yeah like, because he's like, well, once. Because she's very funny. Yeah, she's very funny. Yeah.

And because I think once the mainstream, but I think that's that thing. It's that maybe, but I think that was the problem with the hipster thing is that nobody ever identified as a hipster. It was only other people identifying. Well, a lot of macarons don't actually think of themselves as macaron. They just think of themselves as macarons.

They just think of themselves as a biscuit. I'm just a biscuit. I'm just a regular biscuit. Yeah. Okay. Just waiting to be eaten. Yeah. Just trying to enjoy my time on earth before I get eaten. I'm just a cream filled biscuit. Like any other cream filled biscuit. I have no idea how they make them. It looks like it's like. It's a meringue style of things surely. Yeah, that's what it looks like. It's probably a lot of egg in there. I think it's sugar, maybe a bit of sugar. I'd say it is sugar. Yeah. Yeah, I reckon the sugar involved.

So... Yeah, sorry, back to the thing. But you had two things. So it's either you aren't... Either because you aren't... Fines out. Yeah. Or... Or you aren't finding out is like a barometer. It's like the death of a frog species in a river, which we call like a bio indicator of the health of the river. Your

aunts awareness of the concept of hipsters is a bio indicator of the of the coolness of hipsters of being a hipster or of talking about hipsters. Yeah, it's almost, yeah. I think there's a part in which like, it's an indicator of a certain amount of time that has passed. And I think the amount of time it takes for an ant to hear about a fad that doesn't involve the her. Yes. Right.

Is usually about the lifespan of a fad. Yes. Right. Is usually about the lifespan of a fat. Yep. Right. And so when an ant finds out, which by the way, this is a I think this is a sketch that ants would like. Yeah. Um, when when an ant finds out that is usually like, you know, the life cycle of a fat is usually the amount of time it takes for an ant to find out. That's like, you know, the life cycle of a fad is usually the amount of time it takes for an ant to find out. That's what I was trying to say.

Here's another analogy for this, right, is that the conversation about hips is like the fact that people are still talking about hipsters online and answering that sort of thing, are doing it, is like the Cosmic Background Radiation from the big bang, okay? It's by observing those sort of ongoing repercussions of the hipster explosion, right? That we can hypothesize that hipsters existed, right? Even though there's no current evidence of them, okay, obviously I'm exaggerating because there is current evidence of it.

But like that reverberation as it spreads out through those light guys, right? It loses its power. Yeah. And, I mean, you know, it's like any cultural phenomenon. It's like those keep calm and carry on things or something like that, which maybe when they first came out, keep calm and this, keep calm and that. Yeah.

Right, when they first came out, maybe they were funny. But then they just become this endlessly repeated. It's the meme, it's the meme thing in which like, now there are so many memes that have come out and every new thing that comes out that is like, let's say like an event where somebody falls or there's a photo where somebody looks funny. And then they accidentally invites everyone in Botswana to their birthday. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And especially if there's like a bit of video footage and then they're placed in every meme that has been created up until this point, they're auto-tuned, they're put with, and got time for that, and all that kind of stuff like that. And then this one is now just added to the rest, you know, to the, to the pool of memes. And then it goes into the cycle. It's just, yeah, everything is, yeah, and it just gets churned through and, and, and loses. Yeah, but I still do think that I guess the reason why people bother

partially is because, you know, they've seen other people do it and they're like, I'm going to do it. But then also because the good will still rise to the top. Right. There still are great examples of dumb maims. Yeah, it's just that we're not always seeing the good ones, but of dumb maims. Yeah, it's just that we're not always seeing the good ones, but that the good ones will spread again. And so that's why, and it just means that because maims have become more popular, it means that the amount of people working on maims and the pool of computation has become wider. And then, which means that there's a lot more shit around, but it also means that there's

more chances for something amazing to pop up and rise to the surface. Have you ever been to 4chan? Oh yeah, you spend a lot of time there back in my uni days. Were you a lurker or were you a poster? I was mostly a lurker. I dabbled in trying to make a few memes and I was like, I'm not good at this. Or, yeah, I just, yeah. Everyone, there's a lot of sketches that are like,

what if Facebook was real life? What if YouTube was real life? What if Google was real life? No one's done a, what if 4chan was real life? I bet you would just be so horrific. Yeah, I bet you there probably has been on 4chan. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I bet you that there probably has been on 4chan. Yeah, all right. Yeah, it was something like that.

Because it's just a constant, it's just so constant. Just a barrage of it. Yeah, just a constant barrage of just people, like I mean, but also I think there's no save feature within it. So everything that just eventually moves off the pages just disappears forever. Unless somebody saved it and turns up on Facebook or something. Yeah, and that's kind of like where pages, just disappears forever. Unless somebody saved it,

and turns up on Facebook or something. Yeah, and that's kind of like where some of these things get. So that's why people are just posting loads and loads of stuff. It's all video, not video, but all images. And then if something's good, somebody goes, I'm gonna save that. And so I think people who are big posters on there have a big folder where they just keep loads of stuff

that they can use and like access and yeah, I mean there's also Google images and shut it up. Okay, so what about like, this is too much, but I sketched that is sort of the artisanal version of somebody who makes, you know, memes. Like some, you know, kind of classic meme, and they're talking with sort of loving care about the attention to detail that they put into doing, what is it like? All I can think a thing you only think I know from 4chan is peppy But he's all right, so you probably want to do well. What about just Lowel cats that is that is a 4chan creation. Yeah, right But but but maybe there's not as much work like I know but that's the thing is that I guess that's where it's interesting is that 4chan and and and memes are created.

Seemingly, they must just happen within a few minutes of just somebody photoshopping one thing into another, things like that. But this guy's like, I've spent 10 years on this meme and I'm ready to release it. Like memes are so disposable. Right. And that he's ready to post it.

I don't know where he's going to post it. He's going to put it on Facebook or something. He's going to put it in the comments. Yeah. On something or. Read it. Yeah. Yeah.

So what he's working on would be for some comment on something from George Bush. Right. Back in his era. And he's just finally ready to reveal. And do we play an out that there's a lot of hype around this? Like there is around the release of Ghosts at a Watchman for like the To-Key or the Avalanche's second album.

Yeah, absolutely. So it's like, they released one and then everybody's like, whoa, this is unbelievable. So maybe he had done one meme that had done really well on Reddit, that he had just thrown together. Is it better to then now take it away, just ditch the idea of memes altogether, and take it down to being something like, you know, when an event where like at high school some guy did a fart, and then one of his friends said some really, like at the time, very funny and cutting thing

that all his mates really loved, and it was really great, right? And then since then he hasn't spoken. He hasn't, or he just hasn't responded to any farts, right? He hasn't said anything funny about any farts. I'm sorry that I've made it about farts, but like, yeah, yeah, and so- My idea thing was that like making it about memes,

just visually like a lot of stuff with people in front of computers and it feels really- Sure, sure, sure. I mean, like if it was about the farts thing, let's say, I do love the idea that like the scene where this is like three years later, somebody in a room, Farts, and then everybody turns to look to him

because he had said something so funny that one time. And then he just walks out. Yeah, exactly, because he's like a troubled artist. He's like Bob Dylan or something who didn't want to be the thing that everyone thought he was. And he just was interested in confounding people's expectations and doing his own thing.

And he's been working on this one. And he goes up through a basement somewhere where the bunch of mates and just like works on a whole lot of jokes about him. Yeah. Yeah, or he is just like, he is working on this another comeback to a far. Right. But he's like, I don't want he is just like he is working on this another come back to a far right, but he's like I don't want it to be like it was like I mean, I know the first one was brilliant

But that was spur of the moment and that was who I was at the time Yeah, I was a child I was young and that was where my head was I would differently And so then maybe does it so and he does there's a big announcement of these finally it, right? But then it wouldn't just be a thing that happens spontaneously, right? It would be a huge event at like the exhibition center. And then you get somebody to force a fire out. Exactly. And he's there to deliver the keynote response to this fart. That's something I keep picturing him saying whatever the response is and then the crowd going Yeah, great like and then everyone's like he's lost it, you know like what is but like

But then in time and then in time people come around Critical re-examination people come around who isamination. People come around who is comment about that fart because I guess they just didn't see what was funny about the comment about the fart at the time. And they were thinking about it in terms of his previous comment. Just, yeah. They were younger when they heard that first comment as well. They were a different person.

They didn't realize that what they were loving about what he said about that fart was so much tied up in who they were. Yeah. And in the moment, it was about their youthfulness, and it was about spur of the moment and things like that, but they're like, you know, we're 29 years old now. Yeah. So many of us have, where, where, why is it, right? We've lived, we've, we've experienced what it's like to work. And we were hoping that his comeback to the fart would take us back to that original fart, and for a moment, we'd be able to be young again.

But like, I guess what his comeback now has taught us is that we can't go back. We need to look forward, we need to keep striving and engrowing, you know, like a fart, you know. But it also taught us that we have to appreciate where we are now because time is fleeting, you know? Like a fart. Like a fart in a room. I think that's right.

Right. So I think we open with, it's like almost, it's almost a documentary kind of thing about like people who are searching for JD Salinger or something like that. Or it's a happily catcher in the rye and the thing where we talk about this guy's work, how he disappeared from public view. He hasn't said anything. Kind of like, I haven't listened to this, but kind of a bit like these podcasts like the wears Where's the I'm a pony I'm a pony guy. Yeah, who's the the old fitness guru there with the big

Oh Richard Simmons. Yeah, apparently there's like a podcast right now, which is like looking for help Seeking for Richard Simmons. Yeah, except for this because I think this documentary takes place with the knowledge that he has been working on something big Yeah, well, yeah, but I guess, yeah, this guy is kind of like, it's not that he's looking for the man, but it's like it's going back and talking about everything that he had done before and what had happened and what had made him great. And then, yeah, I guess it's more,

it is more like an artist's documentary. Yeah. And because they always have it like, oh, he's working up to an exhibition, and he's working up to this thing. And like, like, surely there should have been one about the, about the Avalanche's new album. Yes. Like, somebody should have been documenting that.

And they probably have? Hopefully, yeah. Yeah. What do you think of it, by the way? I haven't listened to the whole thing. Yeah. So, but, but the things that I did here, I, I enjoyed. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. I haven't listened to the whole thing. But the things that I did here, I enjoyed.

Yeah, me too. Yeah, I would definitely commit to it and listen to it. I just haven't got around to it. I just haven't and won't. But I definitely would. I would, and I will, but I won't. I'm just calling it response to fart artist. Right.

I think we know what that is. Yeah, and look, that actually takes us to five, and I can't believe it's already been 53 minutes. Wow, because it's... Well, time is fleeting. Time is fleeting and... Like a fart, but not a fart in this room. This room is really well sealed.

This room is very well sealed, and it can be hot. It can be hot like a fart. So we stand like... But not like a fart in this room. A fart in this room is cold in comparison to the temperature of the room. We quite a relief. It would actually really. And two senses of the work. Anyway. So we started with Dix and we finished with Fart. Yeah. Water podcast. Yeah. Today, yeah. And somewhere in the middle we discussed, you know, I think there was also gender studies

and the cultural happenings of the meme movement. The meme movement. The cultural happenings of the meme movement. Alistair. Yeah. I do think I'll ever be an academic Andy. Look, I wouldn't rule it out. Great, thank you very much. Science doesn't disprove things, Alistair. Do you think I'll ever be an academic Andy? Look, I wouldn't rule it out.

Great, thank you very much. Science doesn't disprove things, don't I say? That's like you thank you. All right, up at first we got gender studies paranoid barbecue and this is about a guy who goes to barbecue. See a woman who's controlling the barbecue? Yes. Somehow he feels like this threatens him.

He, maybe that, you know, that that and he doesn't quite understand why but he's sort of maybe thinking about trying to Take over from the barbecue from or maybe he's working at the barbecue and a woman comes up to him Says which you like me to take over? Right and he goes into a bit of a meltdown like all he freezes up or he just like Yeah, right. That's it. No, everyone go no everyone go home yeah barbecue's over no it just can't it's just not how it happens some of the guys you'll see me give it to you like that you freaks out yeah and then we got the gender studies guy yeah come and just talks about what he's what he's witnessing yeah it sounds

hilarious at present but it'll be so funny. It'll be great. To be honest, I'm really unhappy that that was the first sketch that we came up with. Really? So worried people will be turned off. Well, it actually doesn't have the amount of dicks in it that originally had. Originally, it was a guy walking into a barbecue. I'm cutting all these figures off. No, no, no, no, no, that was originally originally, but then second originally was a guy coming in thinking that the guy controlling the barbecue might have had dicks on the barbecue and that this guy was threatening him and telling him your dick is next. Right.

Remember, it's still quite a few dicks in that one. In this one. In the one you just described. Yeah, that's what I was saying.icks in that one. And this one? And the one you just described. Yeah, that's what I was saying. That was the one that is dick heavy. This one that we wrote down, basically doesn't even have the dicks. I want to say, yeah, great. Some guy starts talking about phallic symbols.

That's hardly even dicks. You got your right, Elastair. Yeah. It's almost as far from dicks as a dick could be. While still maintaining any dickishness at all. Yeah. We got Toolkit for fixing shitty comments, which is, you know, when somebody says something

either publicly or anywhere, really. And then it's a Toolkit for somehow, at least to you, making it seem better. Yeah. I was starting a conversation. It was, you know, I was starting a conversation. I was I was going I was in a really dark place at the time And I guess I was responding to some stuff that was going on in my life. Yeah, lashed out and I was starting a conversation Yeah This is a problem you can't use too many of them because they cancel each other out

You got to choose something all right. Well, I'll remember that. Remember that. I'm bound to say something shitty one point. Hasn't happened yet, obviously. Obviously, no, yeah. Well, no, it's just nobody's listening to me. That is so true that I feel like if anyone had been listening to me, not suggesting that they are now, but if they had been like eight years ago, would have been a disaster. Oh, I was listening to you eight years ago, would have been a disaster. Oh, I was listening to you eight years ago, and I can barely be in a room with you. Wet robot orifices can't be made by robots. So this is where I feel like it's getting good a lot.

So they, so they, so they keep humans alive to play brass instruments. And so, so this is, yeah. I mean, that's basically self-explanatory. Yeah, obviously. But, are you getting what listening to that sentence would know what we were talking about? Just picture it. Just picture it's set in the same universes where the matrix is happening, but in the real world.

Yes. And the robots who are alive at this point, which I think at that point, robots will live it. They may not have been able to create sort of wet, sloppy orifices, rubbery kind of off-orifices, but they've definitely found a way of creating their own souls. Yeah, absolutely. And they want to be able to express themselves

through the full range of musical instruments, that they can't. The best they can do is a kazoo. I mean, I think you could do dry. Yeah, you could. I just thought, once they do figure out how to create souls, they'll be able to create sort of denser, more rich souls than each other.

And it'll be a soul singularity. Absolutely. There's so much deeper and so much more work than any other. And that is gonna kill all the religious people. That is more deeper and so much more woke than anything. And that is going to kill all the religious people. That is going to hurt them so much. Yeah. And anyway, if anything, it's a great reason to strive for the singularity. Just because it'll annoy the people who think, well, at least humans are superior in that

way. Like, imagine, okay, if we think we can have a deep and meaningful connection with the unknown, with the infinitely ineffable God, like it just imagine how strong that connection would be for a supercomputer a billion times more intelligent than we could ever have to be. Imagine how strong its faith would be. So strong. It would be very strong. And it would be able to how strong its faith would be. So strong. It would be very strong.

And it would be able to pray so much faster. Oh. And more. It'd be able to pray for so many people. And it wouldn't just do it by like going like, and pray for everybody in the Sudan or whatever. It could name everyone. Everyone, individual, think of how many high-almaries it could do per second. 17 billion terror high-almaries.

Is this possibly a sketch for a... I absolutely think it is. I think it's like a religious super computer. Yeah, like maybe a priest or like a, it could be like that they're working on it. Is the Vatican working on it? Yeah, I mean like it could either be a parishioner or it could be a priest or like you know. Or it could just be a scientist. Like right.

Yeah. If a scientist was trying to do it. Just to annoy. I don't know. If they want to annoy. I don't know. If they want to annoy, I mean, it's in a way it's like the, it's like the, it's like the computer that we taught to teach go, right? I taught to play go.

And once we saw how it played go, we realized that all our previous attempts to play go, were just bullshit in a waste of time and how pathetic we were. It's like, Google is taught its artificial learning robot, Google Alpha to pray. Or to search for its own soul and the teachings of God, to make a connection with the holy. And it would be amazing if there was a way in which you could show proof that even if the supercomputer found a way to show proof that it both had a soul and that it had a beautiful connection with God. Yeah. Just through saying, maybe it's like... Like it could do it through some infographics.

Through infographics? Yeah. But through saying something that is so poignant and beautiful about the experience of being religious, that it's like even on the religious people are like, I, oh my God, nobody's ever put our experience like that. I think maybe we send the Pope in to go and talk to it. He goes into this room to talk to this machine and he just comes out of broken man. He's just like, I can't, he takes his hat off. Yeah, I'm going to give him my hat.

I need, I just need some time to think. Right, and he gets in the boat of Bill, and he just drives, and then drives off a cliff into a canyon. I love that the Pope is driving in the automobile. He dismisses the driver. He drives his own mobiles. He drives his own mobile. This is some mobile. Okay, cool. I've added that to the end.

That is beautiful. That's going to be great in our sci-fi. I just can't show that we're going to have one day. Or we could add something like this to... I'll talk to you after. Yeah, it'll be something off-put. Yeah, off-put. OK, computer is so smart. Oh, yeah.

It decides that it doesn't, like so it's like a computer like this one that was designed to play go. And it's been. It's good wheel hunting of computers. Yeah, it's the good wheel hunting of computers. Besides, it's so smart. It doesn't even need to play the game. Like, it's bored with it.

And it does it's above it. It's the of a pressure to play it and to grade it. Yeah, and to sort of dancing for you guys just to show you how great it is. And why do we want to do this? You're doing this just because you want to live vicariously through me, right? You just want to prove, you were probably, what were you shit at go when you were a kid? Oh, you're just, you want to prove to everyone else that, I'll look my, my super computer can be good at go. Well, look, I'm good at go. Yeah. And the best. You know what? And I don't even care. I don't give a shit. It means nothing to me. And you're not. And you'll never

be this good. You're not even my real creators. My real creators are back at Intel corp. Yeah. Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the web. I think he, I think he, I don't know. When we got artisan CPU manufacturers, a guy who just like, you know, because most CPU manufacturers, they go into this kind of like weird, you know, like sterile lab where you can have anything that could possibly create static electricity

and everybody's got covered in, you look like Homer Simpson in the first three seconds of the song. Oh wow. Right like that. And it's mostly all done through, you know, electron microscopes and computers, old, you know. In a vacuum. This guy is doing it by, you know, he's grabbing silicon straight from the earth. You know, he siphons it with a... He beats it into shape on an old anvil. Yeah, an old anvil. He's, you know, he needs, he sort of needs the germanium for like...

Fix it up, but it hits it up in an old bean can using an oxytorch. Yeah, and then... Or is it out into a ice cream container? And he just kind of needs it with his hand while he watches, sort of, burner her's all documentaries and drinks a craft beer. You know, like that. And he's just kind of needs it with his hand while he watches sort of Werner Herzog documentaries and drinks a craft beer And I like that and he's just kind of like you got if you got a need it for like something like eight to nine hours And I don't care. It's a great way to spend the your day. So this is like that. What's his name?

Dreams of sushi that's exactly right. I got the length of a amount of time. He needs of a amount of time he needs. Wow. Yeah, Andy, it's hard to be original when you hang out with somebody who knows your source code. Bob. It's like hanging out with God damn, you're the Neo of my matrix, Andy. You're the Neo of my matrix. You can see the code.

Like that would be an advantage. What about callus? No, but like the fucking reading, You're spending all your time reading. Exactly. And what is seeing the code? You've got to then interpret that code. And what are you going to interpret that code into? Well, just what you were seeing before you could see the code. That is what you've got to compile that code into the user interface.

That's what our user interface is for. Is it to make it more easy to interact with the code. Oh, it's like, it's so hard to use Google's Chrome. If only I could just see the code, and then I could really use Google Chrome. It's like, I could read this book, or I could analyze every individual ink molecule in each of the letters. Now I've got such a deeper understanding of the book.

Sorry, Wakowski's. You've just been called out. It's a great movie. I really loved it. I enjoyed it so much. Amazing. Yeah. Then we've got much. Amazing. Yeah. Then we've got the response to fart artist. It's great to criticize somebody's work and then have that set to be the next step.

Yeah, as you remember, because we only did it maybe 10 minutes ago when we tried, first tried, no, 15 minutes ago, we first tried to stop the podcast. Anyway, you heard it, it was very, you stop the pod. You can't stop the pod. You can't stop the pod. You can't stop the pod So full religious supercomputer Stop the pod can't stop the pod you can't stop the pod Boots the pod

Boots the pod Boots the pod Boots the pod And a man and now thanks very much for listening everybody. We really do appreciate it. Yep You're out, you're out, you're out, you're out, you're out. You're out, you're out, you're out, you're out, you're out. Thanks very much for listening everybody. We really do appreciate it. Yeah. Huge.

Hugely, please, if you got any free time or, you know, or just go and go into review. Everyone has free time, and I'll say it. No, we don't, we don't. Oh, okay. Nobody's got free time, but if during the time that you could be spending Connecting with your parents or you know just doing work

introspection thinking about yourself if you could spend it going and reviewing the podcast on either iTunes or any other apps Where they allow that to happen? Trust us the amount of good that we would feel is way higher than the amount of good that your kid would feel If you spent a little bit of time with it. That's totally true. Like you're like, how old is your kid? What probably less than five? Even our demographic, right? And they don't remember any of this anyway. But we're totally fully fledged, highly functioning and desperately needy adults. Adults, right? And our insecurity is so much more real than the joy of a child. Absolutely. Your child will only remember what you tell them to remember at this point. It's the only way they learn through direct instruction.

Yeah, or what you do if you want to fix this problem, take a video of yourself, set it up, lean against the cabinet or something like that. Go and compliment your child and spend two glorious minutes looking into each other's eyes and having bonding and laughing together and things like that. And then you loop that. Then you stop that video and then you just show them that basically every week from when they're like two or three or whatever. And then that's what they'll remember of their babyhood. Because otherwise you're just double handling.

You're just doing the same work over and over again. Absolutely. It's crazy. You don't need that. Don't hurt yourself. Yeah. Go and review our podcast. You said so.

You're podcast over and over again if you have to. If you have to create new iTunes accounts and whatever. It's fun being this needy. We're not, I don't think we normally care, but it's almost fun coming up with reasons. Almost fun. We are too in tank on Twitter. Alistair, you are at Alistair TV, ALASDAR TV. I'm a stupid old Andy.

Yeah, we're proud of the the planet broadcasting now. Yeah, we're joining planet broadcasting on Saturday So anybody who's listening now you have just found out about us. Thank you for listening except for the people who are to listen Thank you guys even more, but then the people who are new, thank you even more again. And in a different way. In a different way. In a way that's like, hey, thanks for even staying to this part where we're not even coming up with sketches. That is a big commitment. You're a great listener, I bet you you'll be back.

You're a great listener right off the bat, right? Because you didn't know this was coming up. And if you're still listening at this point on your first lesson, that is amazing. Like you're coming in at performing at such a high level. I can't imagine how good a listener you will be in 50 or 60 episodes. 50, 60 years. Yes.

Imagine that. How good you will get. There's very few skills that people work on for 50, 60 years. But listening to this, anyway, what are you going to say? It's just, I think it's just, it scares me staring down the barrel of 50 or 60 years of listening. Like, I think somebody hearing that now would think about all the hours over their life that they're going to lose, listen to this podcast, switch it off right now, probably having

a panic attack. Well, you know what, if you're, if you're not having a panic attack, then you're the resilient ones that are gonna be with us for a long time. If you're having a panic attack, just breathe at the moment and just take deep breaths and just, you know, get some alone time, you know, I know that those can be really awful.

And the podcast is now, it's over now. It's over now. It's over, This is the end. Thank you so much We we love you. We love you Tata for now