U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - R U Talkin' R.E.M. RE: ME? - Collapse Into Now with Haley Joel Osment

Episode Date: August 15, 2018

Actor Haley Joel Osment joins Adam Scott Aukerman to discuss R.E.M.’s 15th and final studio album Collapse into Now. They talk about when Haley first heard of R.E.M., Haley’s first concert ever being the Up Tour three days before The Sixth Sense was released, and how Adam was almost in A.I. Artificial Intelligence. Plus, the Scotts talk about films that make them hungry in another episode of “I Love Films.” This episode is brought to you by Leesa (www.leesa.com/rem).

Hey everyone, welcome to RRU, talking R-E-M-R-E-M-E. Before we get to that, we want to tell you about sleep. Sleep. Adam, you're sleeping. Wake up! That's how you wake up? It sounds like that's how you get to sleep. Look, a quality night's sleep helps you prevent burnout, make better decisions, and improve your memory. Doesn't it?

Yeah, and... What did I just say then? It's, it, it gives you, it lets you. You need to sleep more, my man. God darn it. To design a better mattress, Lisa leveraged 30 plus years of experience. Wow.

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to begin with, so that's savings. Yes. So, lisa.com slash REM. From chronic to collapse, town and into now that is, this is are you talking rem remy the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things rem this is good rock and roll um music thank you to rem for the theme from are you Talking R-E-M, Rimi, a.k.a. White Tornado.

That was cool of them to write and perform that for us. 30 years before the show. Yes. Welcome to the show. Very big, exciting show coming for you today. We will be talking about the band R.E.M. about the band R.E.M. and their final elp, their final lip.

Their swan song. Yes, all songs about swans, which is so weird that they did Swan Swan H so early in their career and they're like, let's follow it up. Yeah. With 11 songs about swans. It's sort of an answer to a song that they had released in 1986, which is bizarre. Why go to the trouble of writing an entire album just as a response to this one song? And they're literally responding to that song as well, saying like, I like this song.

The first song is just, I like that song. The second song is, I don't like that song. It's all over the map. And then the third song is, as if that song had called them on the telephone. Ring, ring, hello. Who is it? Swat, swat, eight.

And is trying to sell them life insurance. Magazines? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Magazines, yeah, yeah. Well, it was the magazine called Life. Yeah, insurance. Life magazines. Yeah, yeah. It was really weird. Well, it was the magazine called Life. Yeah, insurance. Life insurance. Life insurance.

Life insurance. I am switching my headphones over here now, by the way, so why don't you talk while I do that? Microphone switching is, did you know that it's an Olympic sport in the United States at the Olympics every year. Is that because they're noise canceling and it's fucking up? I don't know. I have no idea what's happening, but I like it, whatever it is. It feels good. Hey, speaking of it feels good,

let's hear the unofficial theme song that REM didn't write. Let's hear how does it feel when you're in REM, parentheses, it feels good, end parentheses. This is a song that means a huge amount to me because I wrote it when I came out of a very bad, very dark... How does it feel when you're in REL? It feels

good! How does it feel when you're in REL? It feels good! Feels good! Boom-bop! How does it feel when you're in R.E.M.? It feels good

It feels good To be in R.E.M. How does it feel when you're in R.E.M.? It feels good! I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm stoked! Ah, so good.

So good. Thanks to, I believe it's Troubles Afoot. Is that right? Every time I ask what it is, Ryan says he's unsure. I think so. He's unsure. He's unsure. I swear to God, with modern computing technology, there must be some way to write a note on the iTunes track or something.

There's got to be a concrete answer to that question. And it eludes us every time. Every single time. Apologies to, I think it's Troubles Afoot on SoundCloud. I got a thumbs up and a nod, the combo of which I believe means that I am correct. Troubles afoot on SoundCloud. I got a thumbs up and a nod, the combo of which I believe means that I am correct. Troubles afoot. What if a thumbs up and a nod meant troubles afoot? There may be people about to bust down this door and take our lives.

What if, because we're playing copyrighted music on the show, the FBI just burst in here one episode? the FBI just burst in here one episode. What if they, REM, what if that package that Burdus Down sent last week or last episode actually had listening devices? It was a sting operation. And they're after us. They're fucking trying to find our location. They're taking us downtown.

Trying to find our 20. Yeah. Wow, that's incredible. Who do you think they would take down first if we were split up? They would shoot us both in the forehead at the same time. We should take care to travel separately from now on. Yeah. As to not be captured.

We should each get a decoy, too. Yes. A lookalike to run out to the car and drive off. Who would be your lookalike? Because I don't think anyone looks like you. Um, do you get, and by the way, Hey, you look like this ugly person. Twitter is the worst Twitter. I think, which I get constantly like pictures of like, Hey, you look like this ugly person I saw on TV or Hey, you look like this ugly statue. Um, but do you get any of that?

Uh, uh, for a period of time and Anna Kendrick and I got a lot of that. Oh, interesting. Hold on. Let me put my hands sort of around your face as if I'm making hair, hand hair. Well, now you're like touching my face, which is where? I kind of see it. I don't know why this is necessary. I kind of see it. Wait don't know why this is necessary.

I kind of see it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Sing something from Pitch Perfect for me. Cups, cups, cups, cups, cups, cups, cups, cups, cups, cups. I don't know. I don't know any of those songs. Good song. Cups, cups, cups.

Oh, man. It was a huge hit. Huge hit. Cups. Huge hit. Anna Kendrick. What a great person, huh? Yeah, great person to be compared with in the area of looks or anything else. Who do you think it is more insulting to, her or you?

Her. Definitely her. Yeah. Yeah. I think any time that you say to a woman, hey, you look like this man, it's automatically bad. I remember I had a friend in high school who was a beauty queen who did pageants and stuff like that. Yeah. And one day she slicked back her hair instead of wearing it down or bangs.

This is the 80s. Everyone had bangs. And I saw her at lunch. And we used to eat lunch together all the time. We were buddies. I saw her at lunch and I was like, oh, my God, you look just like Pee Wee Herman. Was that the last lunch you ever shared? I believe it was.

Solo lunches after Scott learns a lesson in high school. I mean, it was a good lesson. I think of it all the time now. But, yeah, that's, you don't want to do that. No, no, no,

you truly don't. But I think the reverse is also true. Why compare anyone to anyone? Hey, listen, you're not going to, I'm not going to protest that statement from Scott Aukerman. Really?

You're not going to protest? Well, because I saw you send out a Facebook invite to protest yeah any statement that you make yes to be determined just showing up at my door with you and with making your making your kids signs again yeah i hate what you said and then just fill in the blank of anything of what it what it was yeah um have you ever said anything uh controversial no anything have you ever said anything yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah other than yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah hey serious question. Yeah. Speaking of hyah. Hyah. Do you wish you were a cowboy? Yeah. Yeah.

Me too. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah.

Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. Hyah.

Hyah. Hyah. Hyah. When you were a kid and you were playing Indiana Jones in the backyard. Sure. Did you go at any point? Well, I must confess that I was probably a little old to be playing Indiana Jones. Really? In 1981?

Probably. I was 11 years old, which is, you know, I guess I could have went around going, whoops. You would have been maybe too old to play Indiana Jones and anyone know about it. But if you and your buddies were. Yeah, maybe me and my buddies walk around. I would be afraid to do that because I think my buddy would think that I was calling him pussy whipped. Oh. Right. That's what that turned into.

Yeah. What if – Oh, man. Yeah. So no other comments on pussy whipped? I feel like I got that a lot in high school. Really? That you were in that state of being

I yeah I feel like you just saying that and then associating that with that sound it drudged up something for you you wanted to move on very quickly yeah I feel like my friends used to do that to me a lot because you had a when I would be like, you know what? I'm not sure I'm going to- Because at a certain point, going to a park with a 12-pack didn't sound as awesome as it did when I was 14 as opposed to 16. In 14? A 12-pack at 14? Well, maybe not. When's the first time you drank-

Drank beer? Yeah, beer. Beers. You mean like let's drink these beers yeah like like this the sour barley juice that we call beer yeah i mean i always probably probably like 15 16 is when we would like start like let's get our hands on some of that sweet nectar and and party and it didn't matter where you would just go find a spot and stand around and drink warm beer. Did the cops ever come by and say, hey?

Oh, yeah. And why is it warm? Would you heat it up in the microwave? Because you're not particularly picky. And if it was shoulder-tapped and stashed behind your friend's house in the bushes or in a garage for five days waiting for the perfect moment. I thought that you were saying you would go to a store and say, get me that warm beer because you're not particularly—

Can we get a 12-pack of Old Milwaukee and make sure it's warm? That's fascinating. And you still drink beer to this day, a 12-pack, every night. A warm 12-pack of Old Milwaukee in a park. Naomi, I'm going to the park. Oh, you're heading down to drink a 12-pack every night. A warm 12-pack of Old Milwaukee in a park. Naomi, I'm going to the park. Oh, you're heading down to drink your 12-pack? Yep. What is...

She says that to you about beer? Yes. I'm not pussy whipped by beer. Shut up, Naomi. Hey, listen, if that's the flack I have to take to have my time with my warm dwarf pack, I'll take it. What if that was part of being married to you and you were just like, honey, look, here's something you've got to know about me. Every night, come 830 or so, I'm going to leave the house. I'm going to leave the kids.

I'm going to go down to the park by myself, get a warm 12-pack, finish that bad boy. I'll be rolling back into the house around 3.30 a.m. No, yeah, or I'll be back in, you know, 45 minutes. Man, shotgunning 12 in 45 minutes. Ugh, God. Can you imagine? Yeah.

Did you used to shotgun beers? Sure, we would do that. You just get a ballpoint pen and poke a hole in the bottom of the beer and then open it on the way up. I didn't ask for an instruction manual. But isn't that how you would do it? Yeah, that is shot, yeah. That's why I said it. Or someone had a beer bong.

Oh, yeah. That's the other way of doing it. Oh, that's a beer bong, though, where you stick the tube. Jesus Christ. I did that once at Lake Havasu. That's the place to do it. All my friends got to Lake Havasu. It was probably like 2 p.m. We got to the rental house, and

we were like, all right, let's beer bong right away. Let's get super fucked up because we arrived. We've arrived at this place. I put it in my mouth, did the beer bong, immediately threw up on the pavement. Yeah, just throw up a bunch of foam, right? It was so gross. It was so gross. And then so many things happened that trip.

How old were you guys, you and your friends? I was probably 25 at that point. Too old to be doing this. And how disgusting was the house by like two days in? It was pretty bad because there were like five of us. Yeah. We didn't know each other that well. It was a very eventful trip, but I don't want to waste your time with any of the stories.

Listen, I spent like two months in Lake Havasu. Doing what? Piranha. Oh, right! I forgot you were in that. Yeah. We were down at Lake Havasu. That's where it was shot. I mean, I remember everything about that movie, but I forgot that you were in it. Well, Shear was down there. Yeah.

It was fun, but that place is crazy. What months were you there? Like in the dead of summer. So it was like 122 degrees. Magoof. Yeah. But why did you choose Lake Havasu as a party spot?

Because it was like, let's go meet some girls and we have a boat. There you go. My friend had a boat and it was like, let's go out there and tootle around on the boat and see what's up. And of course, no one talked to us. Right. And the boat sank, all sorts of stuff. The boat sank? Yeah, the boat sank. Oh my God.

The boat sank. We broke down on the way back. Did you guys meet any girls? No, no one talked to us. The boat sank. I lost my wallet with all my money. We decided to go to Renono uh because like the boat went to reno lost all my money reno's not close to lake no it's so so such a strange trip

it sounds awful it was terrible but it's true like i can see people not talking to you because people park their boats like in circles out circles out there, like groups of friends. I could see, like, you're going out there not knowing anyone. And being like, hey, here we are. Yeah. And within 15 minutes, the boat sank. And did you all have an idea of what this trip was going to be like? You're just going to get out on a boat and just as soon as you –

Get fucked up and everyone going like, hey, what's up? Yeah, as soon as you get out there, just people will surround you. I mean, it was like this incredibly expensive speedboat, like one of those – almost like a cigar boat in a way, like one of those super streamlined thin – Cigarette boat maybe. Cigarette. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm more of a cigar guy.

Sure. But it was just super streamlined and sporty and new paint job and it was so thin and so aerodynamic that water was getting uh into the air vents somehow jesus and well you guys probably had too many people on it not well yeah maybe but but you know when i made a mix i made like of course you did i made i we i had a i had a boom box and we had a tape that was about a 90 minute mix which as i recall had some good songs from the dumb and dumber soundtrack on it oh man that's not a bad soundtrack well yeah they always put like jonathan richmond on their soundtracks

yeah he wasn't on the dumb and dumberumber one, but there were some like good modern rock songs for 1995. Did you have to dive in and like swim to the bottom of Lake Havasu to save your mixtape? Oh, my mixtape. My mix! Guys, it's my mixtape. Now, I will say the gentlemen I was on the trip with were very complimentary about the mix.

Oh, that's terrific. Are you still friends with them? Technically, one of the guys I – Is dead. Technically. But we're trying to resuscitate him. No, I don't speak to them all that much anymore, but I would say that I would love to hear from them. Nice people.

Nice, great people. One was my roommate in that terrible condo that I lived in that I talked about that didn't have a kitchen. My roommate and the guys I originally started drinking beer with at 18 years of age. I had never drank beer before, and then we would drink it every night after rehearsal, play practice from 11 p.m. until 5 or 6 a.m. So fun. In a van. p.m. until 5 or 6 a.m. So fun.

In a van. We used to, me and my friends would just sit around and drink beer and just listen to music and just take turns picking songs out of the CDs for seven hours. Yeah, exactly. Just smoke cigarettes, drink beer, and play music. And talking about things that were important and trying to figure things out. I feel like at this age, we've got kind of everything figured out and what we don't have figured out, we'll go talk to the psychiatrist about. Yeah, exactly.

You know, it's like, hey, for about an hour a week, I'll do what I used to do with my buddies. Yeah. And now we've heard all those songs. Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah. I mean, we've heard every song at this point. Every song known to man.

So wait, wait. Try to think of any song that you don't know. I can't think of one. Yeah, not one. So the water got in the air ducts and it just started sinking. Like the vents. Yeah. And it went over into the boat.

Over the boat. It was so streamlined that the back of the boat was like underwater while it was going. It was so fast. that the back of the boat was like underwater while it was going. It was so fast. And the water just clogged up all of the vents in it and it sank. And we had to like hold, like keep it, prevent it, like swim and prevent it from sinking. Were you like out in the middle of the lake?

Yeah, out in the middle of the lake. We finally like swam and pushed it over to like some rocks were you hammered doing this i mean we had beer on the boat so i mean sort of and then just waited for like a boat to come by and signaled hey our boat is sinking and they got they got another boat to come to come drag it out of the water and then and then it was in the shop for three days. Oh, God. And then we got it. They fixed it. So you had no access to the water. No access to the water. We got it out of the shop, and we were there for a week. Yeah.

Got it out of the shop, got it right back on the water, sank again in 10 minutes. It was like a problem with the design of the boat. And this is like a guy I don't know, like my roommate's well-off friend who had a giant new truck and a giant new boat. So this is his boat. This is his debut with the boat.

He bought this boat for like way too much money. Way too much money. It sinks. Twice. Twice. And we just don't know what to do.

And then his huge expensive truck dragging the boat on the way home breaks down in the middle of the freeway at two in the morning. Oh God, that's amazing. And that's just kind of a fraction. And by the way, I mean,

I was having flashbacks to when I sunk a jet ski when I was in high school as well. So I've not had good luck with anything that you take out on the water. Did you fly to Reno or did you all drive? We drove to Reno. That's like a nine hour drive or something. I know, but we were so like, we got to salvage. There's girls in Reno, guys. I think it was just, let's have fun with something. We've had so little fun. Let's go to Reno. So we went to Reno and I think I had 50 bucks at that point, like in reserve and within five hands of blackjack, I was out of money and we were like, all right, well, let's go, let's go back home. Yeah. I remember going to Vegas with a group of

friends, like in 95 and I had $40 and it was all of my money, and we got to Vegas, and the friends I was with all had a wad of cash in their pocket. None of us had a bunch of money, but they at least had- Had like a few hundred dollars. Yeah, and I went to a blackjack table, also didn't really know how to play blackjack yet, and my money was gone in like 45 seconds right and it's like okay what do you do now what do i do for the next three days three fucking days you

brought 40 40 bucks and it was so boring because i couldn't do anything yeah i mean i guess you they have the cheap buffets and you could drink and watch other people play. Yeah. I mean, I borrowed 20 bucks from a friend and then just doled that out over a few days. A $20? Like here and there, like a dollar to someone who gives you a free drink here and there. I think also I had heard everything's free in Vegas. If you're just gambling, they just give you free food and drinks. It just wasn't. It's just not the case.

But still, you left that trip with how much? Oh, I was up, well, actually, I left in the hole for exactly $20. Had to pay my friend back. I may not have ever paid him back. Maybe not. What friend is that? Do you remember? John Bagdasarian.

Do you want to pay him back right now? I should. Do you have Venmo or something? You know what? I'll Venmo him. Yeah, Venmo him right now. to pay them back right now do you have venmo or something you know what i'll venmo them yeah venmo venmo them right now i would like hey remember remember that 20 i borrowed in vegas i don't know whether i ever paid it back so here you go yep done done wow very nice um by the way yeah

i haven't introduced you nor me oh and we've been talking for a bit here yeah so people must be lost they're like who who are these people are these guys who are these guys poor broke assholes telling stories about the 90s oh is that oh god that's what we become yeah uh to my right he is well actually he's pretty much at 12 o'clock right now because I'm facing him directly. Because you're wearing noise-canceling headphones. I'm wearing, and I had to switch him over here. He is the star of Piranha. And if you were hanging around Lake Havasu in the, I guess, mid-2000s, is that when that came out?

2009 it was shot. 2009. If you were hanging around Havasu in 2009, you probably brushed up against him at some point. Adam Scott is here. Hello. Hey, buddy. Hey, buddy. And look at this.

It's Scott Aukerman, everybody. Yeah. And coming up on the show, we have our good friend Haley Joel Osment. We'll be talking about the swan song of R.E.M., Collapse Into Now. You know Haley from, I believe he first came to national attention in the movie Sense8, I think is what it was. Was that it? Sense8. Sense8.

Sense8? Sense8. Like since I ate something, I've become hungry again. It was a movie about dinner. Yeah, great movie makes you really hungry. A great movie. Wait, is this I Love Films? I think so.

Hey, everyone. Welcome to I Love Films. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're talking about films that make Films. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're talking about films that make you hungry. Oh my, okay, I don't know if you've seen this film. Came out a while ago. It's so good and every time I see it, I get so hungry.

Oh my God, I'm getting hungry. You just talking about it. What is it? It's called, it's stanley tucci the name is escaping me stanley tucci and allison janney is in it and you're making my mouth water bro the tucci big night big night they make so much food in this movie oh my god i bet do they give leftovers away at the end of it? When you left the theater, they would give you a- A Tupperware container? No, just a large plastic sack with meatloaf in it.

Just a garbage bag full of meatloaf. And a Tupperware container. Let me, serious question. If someone were to come, like say you had a party, a holiday party. Not that you ever have because I've never been invited to one of them. And someone were to come with literally like a clear plastic garbage bag filled with meatloaf. That's right. What do you do with it?

What if it's even meatloaf that's been pureed? Pureed meatloaf. And this is a good friend who's like – Good, good friend. Good friend who's like, seriously, this stuff is really good. Not a joke. Not a joke. Just like I was at a restaurant, they were giving this stuff away, and I got a big garbage bag full of it.

I just saw Big Night. I just saw Big Night. It made me really hungry. I went to a restaurant. They were giving meatloaf away. And then I asked them to liquefy it, and they did. Pureed it. They did for me, and it's so good.

You got to try this stuff. And they poured it into this leaky bag here do you wanna pass this out during the party like what like realistically this is by the way

this is a good good friend that you don't wanna insult what do you do with it I would I there's no way I don't think they're joking

there's no way but I'm throwing a party so I'm you're distracted you're preoccupied yeah so I would preoccupied. You're distracted. You're preoccupied, yeah. So I would acknowledge the funny joke, be a little annoyed that it's a pain in the ass.

But the person's like, oh, no, no, no, no, this is totally serious. This is really good. Yeah, I would go, oh, okay, yeah, totally. Like put it in your fridge or freezer or something. Yeah, I would take the bag and put it in the sink in the kitchen and throw it out later. But what do you do

when they contact you later and say, hey, how was that meatloaf? I would still never, ever think they're not joking. It would be impossible. You know what makes me hungry? What film?

What? Iron Man. Oh, yeah, but you love eating man's. Well, meat has iron in it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I get it eating man's. Well, meat has iron in it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I get it.

See you next time. Bye. Good heaven, Jesus. Okay, we got to take a break. How's that sound to you? Yeah. I really want you to have a party so I can come with a bag of liquefied meatloaf.

I will do. I swear to God I will. Alright, we're gonna take a break. When we come back, we'll have Haley Joel Osment. He will be talking about several things, including the band R.E.M. We'll be right back

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And you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, welcome back. Are you talking Ari Emery Mead? Burning hell. That's real rock and roll music. That's real rock and roll music. That's real rock and roll music. What were they recording that for?

Was that for... It was for Babla's... Oh, I don't know. It's on a soundtrack, right? Is it on... It is? Is it on Bachelor Party or something like that? I don't know. I can't remember.

Welcome back. It's been so long since we've talked about it. Because I'm sure we covered this. Yeah, I'm sure. We should go back and listen. There is a Badger Party song, but it's not that bad. It's a different one.

We should go back and listen to our episode about it. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm so fucking annoying. Okay. Okay.

Boom, boom. Ahem. Welcome back. We're about to talk about a wonderful album called collapse into now uh which i believe is rem's final record uh although we'll we'll figure that out uh as it comes uh but before we do that we have to welcome a guest on the show and this is a guest whom uh rabid interest from him uh in regards to being on the show.

In fact, so much so that I believe he invited me to an afternoon party he was having with his sister one day, and I was like, I can't, man, I'm recording. Can't, man. That's like the sequel to Ant-Man. Yeah, Can't, man. What if Ant-Man can't

get out of that place that he's stuck in at the end of the movie? He's like, I can't, man. I can't, man. You guys have fun without me. I can't, man. So I was like, I can't. I'm recording. And he's like, can I be on the show? And I was like, you're having a party.

He's like, I don't care. My sister can have the party. I'll just come to the show. Oh, my God. He's like, dude, do your party. I'll have you on the show another episode. That's great. An afternoon party. Yes. On a Tuesday, yeah. 12 packs in the park, pretty much.

All warm, no ice. Yeah. That sounds fun. He's an actor of note. I don't believe he's dipped his toe into any other category on IMDb, is that correct? You don't have any special thanks or any I'm a purist. Just actor. No music, just acting.

He's in I would imagine he's in that upcoming movie Glass which is the sequel to whatever movie he did with M. Night Shyamalan. Sense8. Sense8. Please welcome Haley Joel Osment. Night Shyamalan. Sense8. Sense8. Please welcome Haley Joel Osment.

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It's so ironic that one can do donuts at the Denny's, but one can't eat donuts. Come on, Denny's! I know, you can't get a donut at Denny's. Huge mistake. I want a D at my D. Big problem. Big problem.

We'll be talking about that next segment. Haley, what were you going to say? Nothing. What were you going to say? I was just going to say that I've always known, or for a long time have known, Haley's a fan of REM. We were saying before the show, I saw some piece of press that Haley did back when-

Do you get press clippings sent to your house? I do. I get any REM press clipping is cut out and sent to me. Where he said something about Up being a favorite record of a year for him. So it must have been the year it came out. What's your favorite album of the year? And you said R.E.M.'s Up. And you were, did you say 10 years old at that point?

Yeah, that would have been 98 when that came out. Yeah, yeah. Why aren't you listening to like, and by the way, this all kind of leads me to what really is my first question, which is when did you first hear of REM? Oh, yeah. Well, my parents are both from the south, and my dad went to University of Georgia in the early 80s when REM was there. And R.E.M. was there. And he was living in a house with his brother in Athens during what turned out to be a really significant time in R.E.M. history. And I'd always known that he had seen R.E.M. and liked R.E.M. And I had first heard of them myself because of the cassette tapes that were lying around the house when I was a kid.

Lying around the house? Yeah, just lying around. Sounds untidy. Yeah. So your parents are slobs. No, just the cassettes, though. We like to keep cassettes on the floor to this day. But I had never until this week sat down with him and tried to nail down specific dates.

And it turned out that he went to a series of shows. When did he first hear of R.E.M.? He first heard of R.E.M. when he was sitting in a beanbag chair at University of Georgia and somebody put on Murmur right when it had come out. And everybody was like, this is our band. This is a Georgia band. It's ironic that you can go to a Denny's and sit in a beanbag chair, but you can't order beans.

I want some B from my D, not BB, B. Okay, we got it. We got that clean. Good. All right, you get it? Let's put that into a remix. We can drop that yeah so so not long after this he uh wound up walking to a secret show that they had at stitchcraft which was this blue jean fact or sewing factory um factory they had across the street from the church where they would rehearse, and saw them play there, thought it was kind of sloppy,

and you can actually find the audio of this performance online, and it is hilarious because they open up with Sonny and Cher's I Got You, Babe. They play Secret Agent Man, and it's very sloppy and rough and everything. Do you hear your father in this performance? I listened really hard. Shut the fuck up! That's amazing that he was at that.

That one. Then three days later, That's amazing that he was at that. That one. Then three days later, they play Legion Field at University of Georgia. He's also in the audience for that. And then three days after that, they went to New York to play Letterman for the first time. Whoa. And the contrast between which you can see this on YouTube. And he was on David Letterman. Yeah, he was filling in for David Letterman that night.

Wow. Your dad is David Letterman. Yeah, they used to do a Tony Clifton thing. He's a very gifted impersonator. But the tightness of that Letterman performance compared with what you can hear in this family and friend show that they had in the Stitchcraft place is pretty funny. How did he get invited to it?

Or did he just wander over? He just lived nearby. And it was like, oh, this show is happening. Let's walk over and see R.E.M. And on Letterman, didn't they play South Central Rain? It was a song that hadn't even come out yet. That was the other thing. When they played at Legion Field, he

said the people that were standing around when they played that, they all thought it was called I'm Sorry. And he said everybody already was like, oh, this is a new song. This is a new song. And three days later, they did it on Letterman for the whole country for the first time. That's amazing. Wow. So a little participation in REM history. Sounds like a long conversation with your father. It was, yeah. But very fruitful.

Very fruitful, yeah. Lots of tidbits. At least three fruits, yeah. Hey, dad, give me some bits. Some bits or some tidbits? Yeah, throw some tid on those bits. Give me some kibbles and tidbits. Beans and donuts, man. That's all we're about. So you grew up with REM kind of playing in the house. Yes, yeah.

That was the first kind of stuff I listened to. My real identification with REM, though, was the albums that came out in the mid-'90s because I'd had those cassettes of like out of time. Because that's when you were alive as well. That's when I was alive, yeah. You were not alive in the... They did not tour... In the 80s.

No, I was not. Well, for two years in the 80s. I was born in 1988. How does it make you feel to know that... How does it feel? That I was graduating high school while you and your parents were having sex? It feels good.

It feels good. And I was probably having sex at the same time. Like, I could have been your dad. God, yeah. In an alternate universe, who knows? Man, instead of your employer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was your boss for a little while. Yeah, you were my set dad. Yeah. On the Comedy Bang Bang TV show. Scott makes everyone

call him dad on the set, so it was sort of the same thing. That's incredible. So you were born in the year Green Game came out. Exactly. Yeah, so that was the, I mean, and they didn't tour again until Monster, right? And I still wasn't old enough to see them,

but my first concert ever was the start of the Up Tour in October 1999, and I saw them at the Greek there. You're 11 years old. Yes, sir. And you saw them in where? At the Greek in Berkeley? No, in Hollywood. In Hollywood.

Oh, I went to those shows too. Yeah, I figured you were probably there. Wait, wait, wait. What year did that? You were in a movie with a shocking twist, as I recall. What year was that? 99, right? The movie came out three days before that concert, I just realized.

I had not looked up the exact date, and I had always assumed that the show was in 98, because that was when the album came out. But the tour didn't happen really until 1999, and that was the same year. Wasn't the show August 10th and 11th or August 9th and 10th? 9th and 10th, yeah. Nerds. Dates are important to us, Scott. Sixth Sense had come out

that weekend yeah you're wandering around the Greek and people are like hey there's that dude I imagine maybe oh yeah

or did you look like you look now yeah this is the same beard I've been using for the past 20 years so long in between yeah

so were you that's the real twist were you aware that the movie had opened and become a huge thing? Yeah, of course, right? No, I know, but 10, it's kind of like, you know.

But even being a part of it and like we had done press for it the week before, this was an era when you'd go get a newspaper to see like how it had done. Yeah. It had gone to a newsstand. Wasn't there that phone line that's like studio? I remember my manager was a studio exec at one point. There was a phone line that they could call and get the early returns. Really?

There was a recording. They would call it on Friday night or Saturday morning. He's like, this is before it's reported anywhere. Jesus. Wow. But so was this around the time that people started yelling at you, I see dead people? No, that took a while. Took a while.

Took a while. Stain was probably getting started just about the same time. And it took some weeks for us to go, oh, this is turning into like a thing. Pop culture. Like, oh, and the press junket, which had been right before this, I was having lunch with Knight, and he was like, yeah, I really think that word of mouth might get us to the top three in the first couple weeks. So we were going in with those sort of expectations,

and we're like, oh, all right. And yeah, that month turned into something kind of crazy. Didn't it also, like, it was number one, but then it creeped to, like, number two or three and then went back to number one at one point? I remember something crazy. I don't remember, but it might have done that. Yeah.

Just call me box office mojo. Were you the voice on the other end of that line that was me hey it's uh six cents is creeping this week creeping back up to number one uh so so you're at this rem show at the greek uh it's your first concert what what's it like i mean we all have our first concerts and they're special things to us because it's like, you know, oh, my God, I've never been to one of these. I don't know. What am I trying to say? I don't know. Was this one special for you?

It was very special. I remember it very well. The set list kind of came back to me when I was looking it up this week. And the memory that stuck out the most to me, though, was when they did Tongue, which is one of my favorite REO songs. He talked a lot during this concert. He talked about Billy Corgan a little bit. What did he say about Billy Corgan?

He did a cover of Disarm, like an acapella cover of Disarm. Do you remember that? Yeah, I was in the front row for that. Yeah. That's the 10th, right? I think it was the 9th. I'm getting it mixed up now. What row were you in?

I was in the front. So you both were in the front row next to each other. There's got to be a photo somewhere. The two of you just like... Adam with his arm around Haley. 11 years old. We both got lighters up. I went to the 9th, but the seats were way back.

Why Bobbitt? I know it was the tenth because it's. Maybe I have mine mixed up. I don't know, but the tenth we were right in the front. This might help clear it up though. Okay. Because when they play tongue, he twisted his shirt up above his head and like wrapped his shirt around his head before they play tongue and he goes, this song's got tits.

And went into it. Very cool. I don't remember that. I remember being like, oh, that's kind of funny. But I got the set list off the stage. Oh, cool. Very cool. I don't remember that. I remember being like, oh, that's kind of funny. But I got the set list off the stage that night. And I know they played Half a World Away the night I was up front. Yeah. But I don't know.

Truly. I bet we could figure it out. Truly comprehensive. So your first show, and who were you with? With your mom and dad? I was with my dad. You were with your dad. And that's cool. So did you go to concerts together for a while? We did. show and who who were you with with your mom and dad i was with my dad you're with your dad and

that's that's cool so did you go to concerts together for a while or we did uh into high school i mean my my dad had he you know he was really into pink floyd in the 70s so he i um uh rated his cd collection in that way um he and i both got into radiohead at the same time so we saw some cool radiohead shows when I was a young teenager and yeah last night he was like Beck's gonna be on Colbert oh wow so do you still go to shows with him or is it like nowadays

the last we were gonna go to a Roger Waters show that great tour he did last summer but I was out of town so yeah so now it has to be a special thing that only he likes because if like you both like it you have friends that you probably go with no i i'm a i'm a bit compulsive though like last weekend i went to new york like i saw three radiohead shows and so you

can get you can see one with a friend you can see one with family right you can kind of they have a friends and family discount they do yeah i just saw that beck and jenny lewis are playing madison square garden tonight oh man i didn't even know about that we should have just stayed i know in the actual like for three weeks for three weeks slept in madison square garden it's really we slept the entire time until the back show oh man i would love it just go into hibernation yeah i would love it like a couple of bears i don. Do you? We would sleep through all those Radiohead shows that happened. Yeah. How were those shows?

They were terrific. And they changed up the set list a lot each night. Yeah. And then Tom York went to Michael Stipe's gallery and took this great photo. Oh, yeah. I think I sent you that exhibition. The gallery that we missed going to. I want to see that show.

Did you also try to go sunday and then realize when you got there that it was closed no you you have to hear our previous episode uh we were invited to go by bono and uh we were we were on a plane as as he invited us to go and uh couldn't yeah bono yeah um but uh uh so so that's great so So you're listening to Up. Is that your first REM record that you listened to? No. I had the cassettes for Out of Time and Automatic, and then Monster came out.

And I did not put that pink CD back at Warehouse Records. I cherish that CD and listen to that a lot. Because I liked the harder guitar stuff. And oh, and New Adventures. That was another big one for me. And whenever we would drive out to Palm Springs or up to Santa Clara to visit relatives, that was like my car CD. And it's like a perfect one for driving across the – With headphones or you'd listen to it with your parents?

Yeah, a little Walkman. Okay, great. Yeah, so that was a big record for me. So yeah, and then when Up came out, why I liked that concert so much is that they, I think they had Airport Man playing at the start, and they went into Lotus, and I really liked that record. Yeah, me too. So that was kind of like a cool thing to see.

Getting to see all those songs like opened up live was really fun. Yeah, yeah. So you're like a, but you're a kid, and your brain isn't completely developed yet. Would you admit to that? So does that have anything to do with you liking up? I was not sophisticated enough to start changing around the order of the tracks or anything.

See, that's when you know you're an adult, is when you start making your own track listing. It is weird that looking back, going through the album with Scott, I up for me like I found myself

not defending it as hard as I would have at a certain point in time like I really love it but there's a lot of stuff

about that album that just has kind of changed over time and doesn't sit as well now as it did but you being 11 years old though

it's so inexorably tied to your childhood yes is it something that it's just, and Monster and everything like that. That will never be able to be pulled out of that, like, nostalgic. And, you know, I can remember my room when I was in fourth grade just listening to, like, What's the Frequency Count? It's like over.

Yeah. That's so cool. But with Up, I also realized being, like, 10 or 11, like, you don't, you aren't allowed to, like, listen to music for hours in your room. You got to go to school or go to bed or something. So it might've been that I listened to like the first five or six songs and then was told to go to bed. Oh, and then always had to turn it off. Because it seems a lot longer now when you get into 10, 13, 14 tracks. On the other hand, with Around the Sun, I kind of listened to that once and then didn't listen to it very much more

in 2004. And I liked it more this time when you went through it. There are a lot more things that I liked on that the second time. What was going on in your life in 2004 that you didn't? I mean, I guess at this point you're five years into fame, international fame. What are you doing? Are you doing AI or something like that? No, we're done with that. The most depressing movie in the world? We've talked about this.

It's just the whole planet dies, Scott. I told you about Cool Ops reaction. The last time you were on Bang Bang, didn't I? I think you did, yeah. I got a new TV and a new Blu-ray player, and I'm looking through my Blu-rays going like, oh, what's a good one to test this out on? For some reason, I pick AI going like,

well, it has robots and computer-generated shit. So I put on the last 15 minutes of ai which cool up has never seen and it's all about like spoiler alert if you're ever going to watch ai but it's all about like isn't it robots basically telling you that you're never going to have parents and never yeah they try like they're a couple has a son who's ill and in a coma so they replace the son with a robot and then the other son wakes up and they have to get rid of the robot, and then he goes on this odyssey with Jude Law. Right. But the very end, isn't it like all of humanity is dead, and you're trapped?

Yes. And they're trying to say, well, you're never going to be happy again. Yeah. That's pretty much the end of that book. All the people you love have been dead for 2,000 years. Whoa. And so I'm just testing out my Blu-ray player and Kulop is there trying to read, but then watches this and she goes,

what the fuck is this movie? We're like, but the subwoofer sounds great, right? AI is cool. I haven't seen it since it came out. I remember I went the day it came out. AI. AI. But I shot a scene for that movie, and then they did.

Really? Did I ever tell you about this? I shot a scene for AI. It had like one or two lines, and it was super exciting, so I got to be on set with Steven Spielberg. Was it like, I'm Brian Seintime? It's Brian Seintime. Brian Seintimes.

It was down at like an advertising agency, like in Long Beach or something. Oh, we were down at the Spruce Goose Dome there. So they probably had some offices or something nearby. I remember seeing you walking like to your trailers. Like we were all out. I was with like – what's his name? How many times have we been like accidentally running into each other?

Steven Spielberg? What's that? Steven Spielberg? What's that? Steven Spielberg? Is that who you're trying to think of? Yeah. No. What's his name? Anyway, it was a bunch of us.

We had like one or two lines each. And it was a scene where like the main guy, the William Hurt character is like talking about robots or whatever. And we're all like scientists who work there. Sprinkled throughout, we each have a couple of lines. So it's a whole day on the set watching him. Is the deleted scene on the Blu-ray? I got to bust that out. No, like six months later,

I was at Spaceland of all places seeing I think a Rilo Kiley show. And this guy who was a background on, on the, in the scene who I had kind of gotten to know that day came up. He's like, Hey man, where were you?

I was like, wait, what do you mean? He's like, we redid the scene. Oh, where were you? Oh no.

and then I ran into another guy from that scene and he also was like, yeah, I heard they read. So at least I wasn't the only one, but. Oh, no. And then I ran into another guy from that scene, and he also was like, yeah, I heard they recast. So at least I wasn't the only one. Oh, so they recast a lot of people. Or two people. I think they just reduced the scene so it's just like five guys sitting around rather than 12. Is this what they based five guys on? Five guys.

And then they started a burger restaurant. Anyway, anyway. I always thought that movie was really weird. But you were watching it with a grudge as well. I kind of wasn't, though. You were like, hey, whatever. I was bummed, but also it was a pleasure just to work with Steve. Right.

But it would have been like a line, so it wasn't that huge of a deal. Do you remember your line? Like, hey, are you an AI? I don't. How does it feel to be a robot? But I guess, so what was going on in 2004? I was pretty deep into high school because of college applications and everything. I didn't really shoot much between 2003 and like into college, basically.

I was basically just going to school there. And that was, was that important to you? Was that important to your parents? Who, who made the decision of like, Hey, I know you're starting in movies a lot, but, uh, go to school. It was, it was important to both of us. Cause I did really want to go to college. Um, and I was going to a school where that was very much like a college prep school and that sort of thing. So taking APs and all that crap and doing that stuff.

But it was also the Bush years, so it was the first kind of teenage political rage and everything. And Around the Sun didn't quite bite as hard as I needed at that point. So that's when I kind of veered off into harder stuff. Yeah, so what were you listening to in 2004 that was so biting? Hail the Thief had come out the previous fall, and that blew me away.

And then I was just really into that. And then that thing that great bands like R.E.M. do, through listening to Radiohead, you get interested in the Pixies, you get into that other stuff, and it just sort of started. That was really when getting interested in music sort of really took off for me so did you get bummed out with around the sun was it because for me it was a bummer like oh man i've been sticking up for these guys for a while like convincing people this bullshit how great up and reveal was and then this one comes out and i can't really defend it as hard but is anyone talking to you about it no but

like they're probably just ignoring it not really that's the thing is they were completely out of the cultural conversation

I had not had to defend up too much because none of my friends were listening to it I do remember the girl sitting next to me

in 6th grade because I was listening to the great beyond and like the Andy Kaufman stuff and when she heard it she was like

I hate that song I was like why it's REM the 6th grade girl hated the great beyond and like the Andy Kaufman stuff. And she was going, and when she heard it, she's like, I hate that song. I was like, why? It's REM. The sixth grade girl hated the great beyond. How could you hate it? I know. But Reveal I thought was awesome.

And so I didn't feel like I, like this was the last draw or anything. I was just like, it didn't really, it wasn't the weapon that I needed against Bush and all that stuff. So you would only listen to music that sung about Bush? Yes, explicitly. So only Peaches and that was it. Pearl Jam's just Peaches. Bushwhacker or whatever it was. Yeah, Glycerin by Bush.

But I did go to another show at the Greek Theater during the third debate between Bush and Carey and got to go to the little backstage area for the show. And Ariane was all watching the debate like right before they went on stage. Oh, wow. And that was kind of cool to see, except I think I told you about this.

We go to the concert. Concert's great. At the end, Stipe just says a very brief thing like, I like John Kerry. We think he's a good person. Like, I just would encourage you to get out the vote. And this like old like guy in a cashmere sweater had been dancing creepily with this young girl

the whole time was like, what? And they did a big crane shot of the crowd during Man on the Moon, and this guy just put two big middle fingers up right in the middle of the pit. In L.A.? Yeah. In L.A.? He's so surprised someone would support

John Kerry. R.E.M. is political? What? And it's the week of the election? It's so strange when I hear stories like that. So that was the Around the Sun tour. That was the Around the Sun tour, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Speaking of the debates, I flashback when you said that, that we were, the Comedy Bang Bang tour in 2006, we were in England watching the first debate between Hillary Clinton and Trump.

And I just realized, in two more years, we're going to have to watch all those debates again. It's too much. It's going to be such a tense 18 months. It's just such a bummer. It's going to be something we can't defend very well either. And we're just going to have to watch him just be an idiot to everyone for two years straight.

Well, hopefully he won't be in office by the time the election happens. Good luck! But still, just the primaries and the stress of who's going to be the nominee. All of it is just like, god damn. It just lasts so long. He's already raised $80 million for the campaign, and

the DNC has not been doing that. Oh, one last mention of R.E.M. The last time I had any interaction with them, I actually... This will be the last time we mention R.E.M. The last time I had any interaction with them, I actually— This will be the last time we mention R.E.M. And I will never, never talk about them again once I leave this room. In your life, not even on this show. Ever.

That was kind of like a low point for America, and that record people didn't really like. And then at Obama's first inauguration at one of the after parties, I wound up standing next to Mike Mills at the bar watching this really euphoric room and had a really nice conversation with him that was like to the effect of, oh, maybe things won't be terrible forever anymore, which is really trippy to think about now. Wow. Yeah. Prophetic.

Yeah. We nailed it. On the other hand, Accelerate nicely captured the anxiety and anger of the Bush years. Imagine if that had come out in 2004. I know. That would have been pretty interesting. Right, yeah. Well, we're going to have to take a break, but when we come back,

we're going to be talking about something that did not come out in 2004. We're going to be talking about something that came out a little later than that. It is the album Collapse Into Now. We are going to be right back with more Are You Talking R.E.M. Remy after this. Hey, Adam, do you know that John Cougar Mellencamp song?

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Okay, how much do you want to pay me? $1,000. Okay, you have my permission. All right, so head on over to podswag.com slash Threedom. Threedom. Welcome back. welcome back are you talking are you memory me this is from monster there's oh i'm sorry i even said it so scary you're the one that gets scary i know i'm just so frightened uh welcome back we're here with hayleyaley Joel Osment, who is a cast member of the new Hulu streaming show, Future Man.

Is that correct? That is correct, sir. So you can see him anytime on your computers. If you guess the correct combination of ones and zeros, you just come up on a computer. Mr. Great Ben Carlin. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Ben Carlin from The Onion? Yeah. He's a showrunner on a computer. Mr. Great Ben Carlin. Oh, yeah.

Ben Carlin from The Onion? Yeah, he's a showrunner on Future Map. He gave me a giant trash bag full of meatloaf. No. Came to your party? He came to the Mr. Show offices once because I guess he knew Bob or David

and was talking. I met him and thought he was really great, and I said, you know, I've never read The Onion. This is back when it was just print. He was like, oh, really? And so he came or had it delivered, I can't recall, a big trash bag full of old Onion papers. And just like, here you go.

Here's everything you need to know. Do you still have some of those? I don't have those particular things. Then I worked with them on a movie they were doing and so i got all the books sent to me and all that kind of stuff the books are like a little more the collective like it's a little more manageable than a giant trash bag full of newspapers it would be cool to have like one of them or something yeah exactly or exactly. Or not cool. I don't know what's cool anymore. Yeah. So, yes, we're here with Haley,

and we've been talking about the band Radiohead pretty much almost exclusively. Let me test you out on REM trivia. What's the drummer's name? What year? Ooh, good one. Um, 1752. Paul Little Drummer Boy Revere.

That's right. Paul Little Drummer Boy Revere. Yes. And. Yes. All Little Drummer Boy Revere. Yes. And their big REM single, One If By Sea, Two If By Land? Or is it the other way around? Wolf's If By Lower. Wolf's If By Lower. We're going to talk about the record Collapse Into Now.

Collapse Into Now. Collapse into now. Collapse? So when this came out, no one knew that this was their last album. They didn't announce it. Even though, looking back, it seems like they were pretty much already done and broken up.

Waving goodbye on the cover. Yeah, and Peter Buck was nowhere to be seen in any press or anything. It doesn't look like he's waving goodbye on the cover. And Peter Buck was nowhere to be seen in any press. It doesn't look like he's waving goodbye as much as he's waiting for an unrequited high five. You know what I mean? He's like, hey, high five. High five. And people are like, no.

I remember when I first heard it, I thought this is their last album and they are saying so. Really? Yes. And it's pretty clear on song two on All the Best. They do a cover of song two by Blur? Woo-hoo!

I even went on- I think I made that joke on this show already. You did. On Murmurs and went to the message boards, which I'd never done before, just to see if anyone else was like, are they saying goodbye on All the Best? And people were like, no. Really?

Of course not. Nobody thought that? Not one person. You're the only person who knew this was going to be their last record. I wasn't, but of the 14 nerds that were on the murmurs.com message boards that day I was. Well, let's break down some of the facts on this. March 7th, 2011

is when this came out. Haley, you're 14 at this point or 13? 10. Yeah. 13 or 14? 10 was not a choice. I was 23. Wait, 2011 you're 10? No, choice. I was 23. Wait, 2011, you're 10? No, 23.

What? I was 88. You're 23. Yes. Wait, how old are you now? I'm 30. But you're 10 in 2011? That doesn't make sense.

I'm sorry, I got confused. I got confused. Because he was 10 in 1998. Okay. So you're 23. You're in college. Or had you graduated? I was finishing up some credits I had not finished up in my final year.

Okay. So you're still in college. Do you remember buying this record? Yes. Or downloading the record? Or what did you do? Yep. iTunes-ing this record.

Okay. I remember there was a really great interview with Michael Stipe in Interview Magazine. I mean, it's right there in the title. They do them. Yeah. It's what they do. Ask questions. He answered them.

Boy, did he answer them. I did not think that they were breaking up. I had really liked Accelerate. I had seen a couple shows on that tour. And it's nice that they end on a high note, but it actually felt like, oh, this is like they're revving up for a whole new era in REM. Another two decades. Yeah.

So it was, because the breakup announcement wasn't until September, right? Yeah. Yeah. So you downloaded it from iTunes? I did. Yes. And at what bit rate? Ooh, 128, a smooth 128.

That's nice. That's low. It's not bad. 128 is pretty low. You can do better. I mean, you can do smooth 128. That's nice. That's low. It's not bad. 128 is pretty low. You can do better. I mean, you can do worse, though, on iTunes. No, there's a choice that's lower than 128. What, for like 96 or something?

But then I upgraded it to the AIFF thing. There you go. Very smooth. Oh, thank God. Pono. Adam, what are you doing March 7, 2011? I was in New York City, which is not— On the East Coast?

On the East Coast. It's technically an island. I mean, it is an island, Manhattan. Sure, I guess so. Although, doesn't it encompass parts that aren't on the island? Yeah, Brooklyn. Some of the other boroughs aren't on the island. It's too confusing.

Yeah, but it's in the state of New York. A lot of people call it NYC. Some people call it the Big Apple. No. As like a nickname. I just call it New York. New York. Even though you have to sometimes,

you know, New York City. It's good to just say you're going to the city. I'm going to the city. Going to the city. So you were in the city. You say, I'm going to the city going to the city so you were in the city you say I'm going to the city comma

New York so like wolves comma lower yeah I'm going to the city comma New York yeah okay got it

so what are you doing there I'm working on a movie friends with kids oh yeah with John Hamm Hamm and Jen Westfeld

Jen Westfeld yes directing and starring and she's lensing. Lensing. Just lensing according to variety. And so we were right in the middle of doing that

when this came out. And I got it, I think, a couple weeks early. Chris Bilheimer had slipped me a copy of Collapse Into Now. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Did you buy a copy as well? Yes, I did. I think that they had released, they were releasing songs bit by bit.

By the time the album came out, they had released half the album on iTunes, which was... So you would buy them one at a time? Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to remember what they, I remember Discover was like in early December they put that out. Really? Months and months before?

Yeah, it was really weird. To what end? I don't know. I guess to just get people listening to it. I thought it was weird. And by the time the album came out, I already had that, Oh My Heart, Happen Today, Mine Smell Like like honey like four

or five songs it was weird anyway okay interesting um i can tell you what i was up to in march 7th of 2011 um in between our last episode and now my life had changed dramatically i had started doing the comedy bang bang podcast i'd stopped doing the show at UCB that I was doing. And I looked up some electronic mails. And we, in two months after this, I was about to film the Comedy Bang Bang TV pilot with a little man named Adam Scott. Aw. Whoa, that was right around then. It was June.

Whoa. And so I was already like, we were in the middle of emails in March of like- Could you do this? Hey, could you do this? Are you going to be around? So it was just right around the corner. Right, because I had started Parks just a year before this. I started like in April of 2010, I think.

And so you were on a break and you were doing Friends with Kids. With benefits. And I remember my stuff on Parks had just started airing because they had held it till mid-season. So it just started airing while we were doing it. And were people shouting at you,

I see dead people. Yeah. And I was like, that makes no sense. They got confused at the R.E.M. shows we were always going to. Yeah, I guess they always saw us together. So, yeah, that's crazy that it was that long ago. I didn't even realize that.

We shot it like in a – We shot it at the old Abso Studios over there in Hollywood in like basically a warehouse. Yeah. Not even like a room. But, yeah, it was – I have some very pleasant emails back and forth with you regarding that. And so I was, I was preparing this. I, it was interesting to see a lot of the emails to the network that I was writing, like on March 7th and 8th and all that. They were very pleasant. Our relationship had started at a very uh-huh a

wonderful a wonderful note yeah um but yeah that was what was going on so and i remember i remember getting this but i don't really but i've never listened to it oh okay and i i wonder when it was on comedy bang bang yeah we've been two years into Comedy Bang Bang Podcast and I believe episode 80 or so is when you and I talked about U2. Okay, okay. Which was before this.

So it was, it was approximately six months before this. We talked about U2 on an episode of Comedy Bang Bang a lot, which is what led us to doing this show.

Okay, all right. So we've come full circle, my dear boy. Yeah. So wonderful times in our lives. Fun times. Fun times. Fun times.

One time. And... Brian Symes times. Brian Symes times. So that's where we all are. So you bought this, but you didn't listen to it. I think I must have downloaded it and just listened to maybe one song or something yeah never i i couldn't i don't even know why was there a single that alerted you to it or no i

never heard any of the singles there wasn't really a discernible single because they released all those songs like i said so it's kind of weird like mine smell like honey seems like the logical single but they didn't but this it. But this is single two. They say single number one was It Happened Today, which came out in December. I don't think that's right, though. But maybe they just released it in December or something like that? Maybe. And then Mine Smell Like Honey came out two months before in January.

And then a week later, Uberlin. And then a week after that, Oh My Hair. So they were just like cranking out just pushing out stuff so that's you know Discoverer it just says 2011 I think that was even before it happened today

in December actually did they make another website like they had done with Accelerate where they would do something like that like I don't remember it seems like there was

no release strategy for this in a way of no video no discernible single they made a video for for mine smell like honey It seems like there was no release strategy for this in a way of no video, no discernible single. They made a video for Mind Smell Like Honey. Oh, and that was with the dude who plays Kick-Ass, right? No, that's Uber Lynn.

That's Uber Lynn. Oh, okay. But the Mind Smell Like Honey one is just a guy falling down stairs that Michael Stipe directed. Wait, was it Jack Tripper? That's right. He's falling over a couch and then some stairs. But it's, again, it kind of seems like they were already, like Mike Mills and Michael Stipe did interviews and stuff,

but as far as a consolidated press strategy, it seemed like it was not as coalesced. Accelerate was a whole move. And like I said in the last episode, I bought Accelerate. I liked Accelerate. My remembrance of it And like I said in the last episode, I bought Accelerate. I liked Accelerate. My remembrance of it was like, they're back. I like them. I like, you know,

so many of these songs on Accelerate. I could not even tell you why I never listened to this record. Yeah. Well, it's not like they went on Letterman and played the single or anything. Thanks for miming my guitar while you did that, by the way.

I get it. But if they had done that and played Mine Smell Like Honey live, people would have been like, oh, way. I get it. But if they had done that and played Mind Smell Like Honey live, people would have been like, oh, shit. Maybe, but I don't even think I was watching Letterman anymore at this point. No, I know, but if they were out in the ether promoting it, it would have... Doing something, yeah.

I couldn't even tell you why. But let's, without giving away what we think of the record, although you sort of did, Haley. I didn't. Fuck you. Yeah, you did. Shut up.

Let's dive into it. Let's dive into the songs. This is a pretty short record, 41 minutes and five seconds, 12 tracks, and they're all pretty short. Let's start off with the aforementioned Discoverer. Hey babe,

this is kind of challenge. Just mean to not love you as much as I always said I did I was wrong, I have been laughable Rocks and paper, paper sheets are hung up wet Hung out wet Of the city We are scared now Na na na na Na na I didn't have to be afraid I didn't have to feel so stupid

I can see myself I can feel Just the slightest Bit of fitness Might have made a big, vast mess But it was what it was Let's all get on with it now Discover Discover Discover

Discover Discover Discover Laughing Discover Okay, Discoverer. It goes on like that for a bit. What do you think?

Haley, I was thinking this is up your alley because it's got those hard guitars. No lyrics about Bush. No lyrics about Bush. No, he's back on the ranch by then. It's too bad. A lot of excited to live in New York lyrics, though, which is always great. I guess you were in New York at the same time, too.

There's a lyric in here about, you can get pizza at four in the morning. It's a vodka and espresso, right? Yeah. I remember he said that this feeling that he had about love in New York had started during the same trip that he and Peter Buck took in a van in the late 70s maybe, had parked outside of a club, and he went to some party where Lester Bangs was, and he had a dream that everybody at a party had the initials LB,

and that inspired the lyric in It's the End of the World. Oh, yeah. If you know it, it's Lester Bangs, Lenny Bernstein. Oh,ester bangs let me burn some oh a little little connected yeah yeah um so is this up your alley hayley what do you like this yeah and i remember immediately liking it at the time too his voice i think sounds great um i like the drums i like the drums through the whole album actually it's uh who's playing the drums on this this This is Reflin right? Yeah What do you think Adam? I love this with white hot passion I just think this is

incredible It's triumphant It's catchy It's loud It's also the last song they ever played together. Yes. In the Hanse. I mean, it's like taking that aggressiveness from Accelerate,

but loosening it up a bit. It's not as regimented feeling. And it's great. I love it. How about you, Scott? I'm not the biggest fan. Yeah. I will say this record, after the high of certain parts of Accelerate,

I was a little disappointed in. Yeah. Upon first listen, one thing about R.E.M., though, the more you listen to the songs, Oh, yeah. the more they sort of unlock in your brain somehow. I think it was Nick Hornby who talked, there's a book he writes about pop music. I may have talked about this on several episodes, but he says that songs are generally like puzzles that

we try to figure out. And when we are enthralled in them, we haven't figured them out. But sometimes pop music is so simple that we figure it out and then hate the song after that. Like once our brain goes, oh, I get it. It goes da-da-da-da-da-da. And then three times, then chorus. Once we figure that out, then we turn off on it. But this is one that no matter how many times I listen to it it's not it's it's not like

the song writing style that i like of like it's more of a it's more of a statement of fact almost it's more of like a hey we're here kind of thing in a way more than a more than a uh a classic song if that makes sense it doesn't add them Adam, but Haley's nodding. I got one of you. But I don't have a problem with it being that declarative. This whole album is, when you look at the lyrics, and I never really did with R.E.M. Those specific lyrics were never that important to me.

But these, it's all very declarative. In the end, I think the last poem is like, this is our message from the 20th century. Do with it what you will. I'll say it's less of a, like, pop song than it is a song that would start a Broadway show when people would come out and go, hi, we're all here. Like, stand in a line. Discoverer, we're all here, and we're here, and we're going to, this is the plot, and what we're going to do, here's the problem. I guess, but the pre-chorus is that catchy little melody that they throw in there. I mean, I'm not saying that it's like, why am I listening to this?

Yeah, yeah. No, I get what you're saying. It's not quite a pop song to me necessarily, so I'm sort of ambivalent about it is all I want to say. But it's cool. I think you're right. It's why it took me 10 years to figure out that Fables is a really rewarding album with pop songs on it, whereas the first hundred times I listened to it,

it just sounded like a wall of mush or something. Right. I think a song like this of theirs does feel just kind of all sharp edges at first. But the more you listen to it, you find that there are— The squishy center. The squishy center to it and catchy hooks. And I just think that chorus just sounds, like you said, you're right, like super declarative and triumphant.

But it's not like Les Mis, Do You Hear the People Sing, which closes the first act where it's like, you know, declarative and everyone's standing in a line. But it's got that da-da-da. I don't know. Maybe it is like Do You Hear the People Sing. Maybe it's exactly that. But it's not as catchy. You got me thinking of Pippin now. Yeah.

Got magic to do. Just for you. Did you see any of these videos, though, of the Hansa Tone performance? Check that out. No, I never will. This, it really is affecting to me now because only the three of them know that it's the last time they're ever going to play together. I read about this about how they all know this is the last recordings they're gonna make for the record oh wait

I think I might have even seen a little bit of it it's where he's like crying they cut it off before he says well that's it

or whatever yeah it's all it's all on YouTube all those songs right and Lance and Chris

were filming it sorry go ahead I almost like that I don't it's not a spoiler for the whole album like that sound is really great in there because they're in that gorgeous room at that studio like gorgeous yeah that's

where uh the lovable lads from liverpool uh recorded octoon baby too that's right and and heroes for bowie it's the window where they saw tony visconti kissing his girlfriend really is that line from heroes yeah like yeah what line in Heroes where they're creeping on Tony Visconti yeah well he's like and we kissed and the guards

shot above our heads and all that he saw them kissing by the wall and I was jerking off while I watched it from the window in the studio

where R.E.M. will play their last sort of concert good old Jon Bon Jovi what a prophet yeah

wrote a great song wrote a great song. Wrote a great song. So, so not, not my immediate favorite, but you guys, you guys are, the first time you heard it,

you were into it, loved it. It's the first, it's the first thing you're hearing from the record. Yeah, I hadn't heard anything else. I remember I was in my trailer at Parks and saw it pop up on iTunes.

I was like, oh my God. What do I do? What do my God. What do I do? What do I do? What do I do? Amy! Amy! Did you see?

I remember we were like shooting in Griffith Park or something and it was super late at night and it popped up and I couldn't believe it and listen to it. And this sounds like all the best parts of Accelerate except like what I just said. So anyway, I loved it. Great. Okay, well, let's hear song two, All the Best. Oh, this is the one I thought was a good one.

So over me So high in my face So talk to me Tell me where to place this In my closet mode of heart That's where I slipped and fell I rang the church bell Till my ears bled Red blood cells

I think I'll sing it right I'll give it one more time I'll show the kids how to do it right Time, time I hold the mirror up You tell me what is what You tell me which part of my story, baby Stuck, stuck, stuck

I'm in a part of your dreams That you don't even understand It's just like me to overstate My welcome, man Let's sing in a line You might need to overstay my welcome, man. Let's sing it alive. Let's give it one more time. Let's show the kids how to do it right.

Right, right, right. Yeah, all the best. All the best. That kind of sounds like Born to Run at the end right there. Yeah. And so many guitars piled on top of each other. One, two, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. One, two, three, four. We don't have to wait. We don't have to wait.

That's just power drive. By the way, I think April Richardson put that in her top 10. Oh, is that what she put in her top 10? What a weirdo. Good old April. Good old April. This actually reminds me of Monster in a way hayley is that is it yeah i was gonna say new adventures new adventures like yeah but it's that same period for them of like really

nice yeah and glammy yeah like the so fast so numb stuff yeah everything's a great driving song i was just listening to this on the way over here what do do you drive? I drive a little two-door. I did ask how many doors. How many doors do you have on your car? Just one, baby. Can I ask another question? Sure. How many doors in your house? One. Just one? Just one. So it's just one little circle.

Bag end, baby. How many roofs on your car? What do you think, Adam? Yeah, I really like this one as well. It's just listening to it then, like listening to it loud in headphones. They are playing hard. And I really love that. They're going for it.

They're going for it. I mean, I love love that. They're going for it. They're going for it. Yeah. I mean, I love this one. I love Discover more, but I do like this a lot. Where's this rank in your, there's 12 songs. Where's it rank for you? Oh gosh, I don't know.

You don't know. I don't know. I find it a little hard to get into. I've listened to it a lot. I've never really locked into it. I think listening to it right now, it's maybe because the melody is a little like those. It's a little like the songs R.E.M. does

where they're playing really loud and Michael Stipe isn't really doing much more than shouting like, blah, blah, rock and roll, rock and roll, rock and roll rock and roll rock and roll I think he actually does say that on Uber or one of these songs he's like the rock and the roll but it's that kind of Dylan-y

melody of like this this this and this this also this and this this this this yeah yeah rock and roll music rock and roll music it's fine roll music. It's fine. But again, nothing objectionable about it.

Can you see why I would have, in 2011, think it's a send-off? A goodbye? It's the lyric where he goes, this is our last album! Yeah, exactly. I just can't believe

that wasn't blatantly obvious to everyone. You have such a grudge over these people on... I was made to feel like an't blatantly obvious to everyone. You have such a grudge over these people. I was made to feel like an idiot on murmurs.com. I already felt trepidatious about posting at all. I was like, this is like Batman's parents being murdered for you. I had no one else to talk to about this.

I didn't have this podcast, so I crept onto murmurs.com and everyone like beat me down. What was your username when you got in there? Gosh, I don't remember. You know, what's funny is I'm probably to you now, the people who made fun of you on murmurs.com. Yes. Like now you have those terrible negative associations about me. I forgot to say this to you earlier,

but the first time Adam and I talked about REM was like three or four years ago. And you two, the show was happening. And he was like, yeah, I think we might do an REM one, but honestly, like, I don't know if I can handle Scott not liking REM. I know every time, every time you ask me what a song is like, I'm just like, oh God, this is going to break his heart. That's why when you're talking about one that you don't like, I look down at the table and Yep. And shuffle some papers. Sorry, Daddy. So far, we're two for two, and it's not bothering me that much because I think your arguments against aren't particularly legit.

No, I'm just kidding. But I think particularly discoverer, it needs repeat listens. I've listened to it a lot. You keep saying that about – No. And I agree about songs where suddenly you'll be like – something will come on like a random shuffle and I'll go, oh, I like this song. And then I'll realize it's a song that I didn't like on a previous episode or something.

Yeah. And this happened a lot where I was like I didn't like Collapse Into other than maybe one song and then i listened to it again i was like oh maybe i like two and then i listened to it again i was like yeah three are pretty good and then i listened to it again i was like yeah four yeah four songs you know so like the more i listen but but just i think my argument about discoverer makes sense it's just but i think also you don't love like a lot of the like you saying, those kinds of songs from them, like some of the document stuff and Monster. Monster, if something is a little too Monster-y,

I'm a little like, eh. What's the second song on Up? What is it again? Lotus. Lotus. Lotus is kind of like that for me a little bit, isn't it? Just like brash and sexy. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

I'm going to say some words. Although I like it when the B-52s do it. That sounded like Frank Schneider. His Sprex gang. Yeah. All right, let's hear track three, the Zubelins. Hey, now, take your pills And hey, now, make your breakfast

Hey, now, make your breakfast Hey, now, comb your hair and off to work Crash land, no illusions No collision, no intrusion My imagination run away I know, I know, I know what I am chasing I know, I know, I know that this is changing me I am flying on a star into the meteor tonight I am flying on a star

I will make it through the day and then the day becomes the night I will make it through the night. Hey. A little Uberlin for you in your ears. Very much the analogy was made when it came out, and I think it's true. It sounds like an alternate universe, R.E.M. greatest hits album. Yeah. They knew it was their last record.

Yeah. So it's got a lot of songs from their older styles a little bit. Kind of covers all of them in a way. And what's this song to you? Like how- Automatic-y era. But it's definitely got that

that dee-nee-nee-nee-nee reminds me of Losing My Religion. Yeah, for sure. And then the da-da-da reminds me of that song where they go, hey, kids, rock and roll. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He does that with another song on this.

There's like a slapback hey that's a lot like drive at the beginning. I can't place it now. I just always think he's going to go, no collision, no collusion. No collusion. No collusion. No collusion. He says that when it doesn't need to be said. There was no collusion.

He wrote it on the paper the other day. I know. And crossed out, we will prosecute anyone who did collude. You guys are getting very political. There's just no Bush for me to rage against anymore. I love

Uberland. I think it's beautiful and great. I love it. Now you're shuffling the papers again. I know. Because I'm bracing myself. This is my favorite song on the record. Oh, it is? Good.

Actually, the first time I heard it, I was like, eh, because I hadn't had a pop song like Accelerate yet, and so I was kind of disappointed, disappointed, and then this one, I was like, come on, guys. But the more I listen to it the more I love it and this is what I think about R.A.M.

is like they're masters of melody and so maybe that's why I don't like songs like All the Best all that much because they're not as melodic

but this one I really like the more I hear it did you watch that video with what's his name was it Two Girls One Cup Aaron Taylor Johnson Aaron Taylor Johnson.

Aaron Taylor Johnson. No, I didn't. I just read about it. It's cool. It's him. That's his wife who directed it. Yeah, and he's just like dancing through the streets of Berlin.

Oh, really? It's cool. What do you think, Haley? You like it? I like this one, yeah. It's probably not my favorite on the album, but it's a nice change of pace from the first two. I like the sequencing on this one. You like the sequencing from the first two. I like the sequencing on this one.

You like the sequencing on this record? I do like the sequencing on this record. I do too. It would be hard to sequence it differently when we get to the last song. Right. That's an interesting thing, right? But I kind of wondered if it could be sequenced differently, but I didn't try. Okay, let's go to the next track.

This is Oh My Heart. Okay, let's go to the next track. This is Oh My Heart. Oh My Heart. Wah, wah. The kids have a new take, a new take on fate. Pick up, he says, get carried away. get carried away I came home to a city

half erased I came home to face what we faced This place needs me here to start This place needs me here to start

This place is the beat of my heart Oh my heart, oh my heart Oh my heart, oh my heart The storm didn't kill me, the government changed Hear the answer and call, hear the song rearranged Hear the trees, the ghosts in the buildings sing With the wisdom to reconcile this thing It's sweet and it's sad and it's true How it doesn't look better on you

Oh, my heart Oh, my heart Oh, my heart Oh, my heart Oh, my heart Oh, my heart. They played that on the Hansa shit, the last thing as well. And it's great.

They all stand in a circle. Ow, my heart. Ouch. Ouch, my heart. My heart. Ouch. Big disappear vibes on that one. Scott McCoy.

Yeah, totally. Scott McCoy co-writing credit. I was going to say, is this the first time other than Leonard Cohen that they share writing credit with an outsider?

The Leonard Cohen one was simply because it sounded too much like a Leonard Cohen song. Yeah. So they preemptively gave him credit. But this is maybe

the first time that they've written a song with someone? I'm thinking so. Might be. I don't think that I've ever seen another person.

Did he show up one day and was like, bro, I got something for you. Oh, my heart. Yeah. I don't know. Perhaps. What do you guys think? These couple songs are their New Orleans ones, right? They brought in a horn section.

Oh, is this a New Orleans jazz band? Yeah, yeah. They were saying they wanted to go there. It was not that many years after Katrina. They wanted to boost some stuff there. Stipe likes to be in a warm, humid climate for his vocal cords. Yeah, but it was after Katrina. They were like, let's infuse this with some dollars into the economy.

And it's a direct sequel to Houston on the previous record, which was about having to travel to Houston from New Orleans. It was people who had to leave New Orleans and live at the Houston Astrodome, right? So it's sort of the Empire Strikes Back. Yes. Yes, to the Houston. Because the first song says,

if the storm doesn't kill me the government will yeah gotta get that out of my head was that about Bush the government changed the storm didn't kill me the government changed

right yeah oh interesting that's a nice thing uh do you like it Adam uh it might be my favorite

on the record might be your favorite I like this one a lot this is weirdly one that I heard before I think maybe because it was on a best of or something.

In the sequencing of the record, I was a little like, oh, God, a waltz? Yeah. But the melody is so good. It's so pretty. And that sort of backing vocal where it's a little out of sync and it just sounds different for them. I hadn't heard that particular

sound from them before don't you also think like songs about heart just take on so many meanings when you're that sort of generic in a way of like oh my heart it could be about so much yeah that it just like you infuse it with with just longing and aching. Project whatever you want on it. Yeah, exactly. But also being that unabashedly sentimental, oh, my heart is gutsy, and I think it really works. He's not singing, oh, my gut. No. What if it was called, oh, my penis?

Oh, my penis. Haley, what do you think? I think if it was named that, they probably wouldn't have broken up. Stay together forever because of this song. Yeah. No, I like this one. The way that they traveled to record different sections of the album are kind of nice.

And again, it's when only the three of them know that this is their last hurrah for a year. And so they're kind of- Do you think they told Peter Buck? It was just Scott McQuay, Michael Stipe, and Mike Mills who knew. They're like, we're not making any more records. Peter's like, let's do another one, bros. Because they decided on the Accelerate tour, apparently, let's make one more record and we're done. Must be hard making records.

Nah, maybe it's easy. Yeah, I bet it's easy. You're right. This is track five, It Happened Today. It Happened Today. Yeah, I bet it's easy. You're right. This is track five. It happened today. This is not a parable.

This is a terrible. This is a terrible thing. Yes, I will run that after After all I've done today I have earned my wings It happened today Hooray, hooray It happened Hip, hip, hooray.

We'll be the allegory to another Bible story Out of deference, defiance, and choice. Closing on a promise after After all I've done today I have heard my voice It happened today Hooray, hooray It happened

Hip,, hooray Here's a little Mike Myers action. Yeah. It's a weird structure for a song because it just, from here, it just becomes this. Yeah. And Eddie Vedder creeps in there.

Yeah. Like a fucking creep watching Tony Visconti kiss. But let's keep it going underneath what we talk about because I think the end is really interesting. What do you guys think? Love that bass drum. It's a nice, sounds real good. He's got a lot of other drums, though.

He's got a snare. Haley likes the bass, bro. I just like the bass one, yeah. Okay. Here it comes. It kicks in here. I like this part. Yeah.

I feel like it's about them deciding to break up, but I don't know that. I'm just... Is that hip hip hooray? Oh, that was the hit that happened? I don't know. It happened today. This is...

It's a terrible thing, but it should be celebrated. I have earned my wings. I don't know. That's very New Orleans funeral right there. Yeah. Shit. Do you think that Hip Hip Hooray is ironic? Well, I think it's like...

It's sad, but we're happy about it. Yeah. It's interesting how dryly he sings it. Hip, hip, hooray. Hip, hip, hooray. Oh, he does that on Monster, too, where he's like. Oh, yeah. I know it's the sleep I drank.

Yeah, hooray, hip, hip, hooray. Yeah. That's even drier, almost. Yeah. This sounds very out of time-y to me. Yeah. It sounds a lot like Me and Honey or something. Yeah.

Or Belong, where it's just the. Right, yeah, yeah, Belong. You're right. I like this part. I don't like the beginning. Yeah, I like it. It's never my favorite song on the record, but at the end, you can really hear Eddie Vedder blow it out.

Let's hear him blow it out. Blow it out, bro. Vedder! Veds, step it up! You know how you sang that song about Bush? Get in here! There it is. Welcome to the Main Street Electrical Parade.

Yeah. Dee-dee-lee-dee-lee-lee-lee-lee-lee-lee-lee-lee-lee-lee-lee-lee. When I read on Wikipedia that was the first single, I found it baffling. It's not. But it was just a track they released earlier, I guess. Okay. Because I don't think that's a single. No.

This is the last track on side one. By the way, they went back to sides, I guess, because vinyl came back at this point. This is the X axis. This is the last track on side one, track six. This is Every Day is... Did we talk about it? Do we like it or not?

This one? Yeah. Okay, here we go. Every Day is yours to win. And the light. And the stink. And the bridge and the toll With the brilliance and the light And the stink and the fight And the road ahead of you I cannot tell a lie It's not all cherry pie

But it's all there Waiting for you Yeah, you Hey, yeah Hey, yeah Hey, yeah I know With the war And the wounds

And the subterfuge, does it all look bitter and blue? Well, I'm nothing but confused with nothing left to lose. And if you buy that, I've got a bridge for you. I've got a bridge for you Hey, I know. There's a ghost. That's what that chimey guitar reminds me of. Band of horses. Ding, ding, ding, ding.

Oh, this is a different part. Kind of the bridge. Yeah. Hojo? I like it. It's not one of my uh top songs on the album it weirdly enough it reminds me of that first track on that modest mouse album you know the one that starts with just with kind of bells and yeah the same record is float on and they had just toured with them and it's like i was like hey i don't think that's where they got it but yeah Mamo? Adam do you like this?

Yeah I think it's really pretty not not one of my favorites on the record but I do like I think it's pretty and it's very sweet kind of a advice before

some you know pushing someone out into the world kind of song sorry sorry go ahead do you think you'll play this when your kids graduate from high school?

I will play this and offer them no other advice. And you'll kick them out of the house? In front of all their classmates. That's right. They have to be so stoked to know that their last day of high school is the last day of being in your house. Yeah.

I do like the production on it's cool. We should mention Jack Knife Lee's back behind the- Yeah, Jack Knife Lee behind back behind the yeah Jack Knife Lee behind the two the knobs fives um I think it's

the most I could the best thing I can say about it is it's pleasant ish uh huh okay yeah I like it but I'm not like

I think we're all in agreement it's fine um this is track seven or the first track on the second side this is Mine Smell Like Honey is track seven or the first track on the second side this is mine smell like honey i would dare you but i know i don't need to you're going to do just what you want to

you're going to take the leading chair at the fairground You're going to sing the praises of your faith Mine smell like honey Mine smell like honey Mine smell like honey Oh, oh, oh, honey Take a hold, take it deeper, deeper Climb a mountain, climb it steeper, steeper Take a hold, take it deeper, deeper

Trap yourself, honey, through the night To get deeper, deeper The track itself Honey, you know Yes, the end comes fast enough Mine smell like honey What's he talking about? His fingers? Balls? Balls?

No, I don't know. I mean, second song that they mentioned, Honey. Where did they mention Honey before? Isn't Me and Honey? Yeah. Oh, yeah, Me and Honey. I thought you meant on this album. That would be weird.

The man likes honey. He says, what, honey something hyacinth and imitation of life? Yeah. The guy likes honey. He likes honey. What can we say? Hey, who doesn't like honey? I mean, put honey on anything, you bet I'm going to eat it. Yeah. The guy likes honey. He likes honey. What can we say? Hey, who doesn't like honey? I mean, put honey on anything.

You bet I'm going to eat it. Yeah. Delicious. Honey and peanut butter. Oh, delicious. Great stuff. Yeah. A little.

Put some nanners on there. Oh, my God. Just a small amount of mayonnaise. You are making me hungry. Some mayonnaise right on top. Just a dollop. Just a drop of ketchup. Please. Just a little ketchup. Please, Daddy. Just a little squirt. right on top just a dollop just a drop a ketchup please

just a little ketchup please daddy just a little squirt I love this it sounds it reminds me of like Life's Rich Pageant-y era I think the chorus is so

the chorus is great catchy I don't like the verse really? yeah you mean like the lyrics or the no the melody just too? Yeah. You mean like the lyrics or the... No, the melody of the verse.

Just too talky? Yeah, but when the chorus kicks in, it's so good. But it's definitely melody there. It's da just talky. Let's hear it again. There is a melody. I just don't think it's as good. I like that. It's not like they're sitting the verses out. You're going to take the lead, yeah

It's not like they're sitting the verses out. Maybe it would be better if it was like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, for the first part, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, and then it changed, da-da-da-da, you know, or went somewhere else. Instead, it just repeats the same thing four times. Maybe that's what I'm reacting to. Well, I think it's terrific.

Okay. What about you, Hayley? My favorite on the album, it's one of the ones that makes me sad they didn't tour for this. Me too, man, I think it's terrific. Okay. What about you, Hayley? My favorite on the album, it's one of the ones that makes me sad they didn't tour for this. Me too, man. Great live. It actually reminds me of Accelerate type stuff

mixed with Murmur in a way. I think it could have been an album opener and I would have maybe been a little more like, okay, this is what I was expecting. Oh, I feel like Discoverer is a perfect opener. I mean, without, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it would serve well

as an opener to an album, for sure. Just not this one. Or any. Or any other. No, I think it's awesome. I like it, yeah. It's good?

Sure, you can say that. Yeah, it's good uh i like it yeah it's it's good sure you can say that yeah it's good um walk it back here we go walk it back walk it back walk it back what Walk it back What What would you Have had me say Instead of what I said

Where Where would I go? How could I follow that? Except to do what I did Which is to walk it back Walk it back, walk it back, walk it back Time, reverse and rewind Erase and revise and try to start again

You, don't you turn this around I have not touched the ground and I don't know how long you say to walk it back. Walk it back. Walk it back. Walk it back. Walk it back. Walk it back. Walk it back. Walk it back.

There's how they should have sung it. You guys aren't doing an album of our hymn covers when this is over. Walk it back, guys. Well, I heard that they wrote this after partying all night in New Orleans, and they went back to Mike Mills' suite and banged it out on piano with the whole group of their friends and everything. That is rock and roll. I'd like to hear that version, too.

Oh, totally. Yeah, but yeah, I like it. Yeah, I like it, too. I was flummoxed, but think it's the pitchfork review where they said it's possibly the best thing they've ever recorded that did kind of stop you remember that i was like i like it but yeah the best thing they've ever i mean that that particular writer though is probably responding like what does walk It Back mean to him? Yeah.

Or her. Well, that's also the same publication that gave Around the Sun, like, 5.4 and then gave Accelerate, like, 5.9. Yeah. I mean, they gave this, like, six points. They didn't give it a huge rating, but said this one song. I don't know. I like it.

It's probably one of my favorites on't know. I like it. It's probably one of my favorites on the record. I like it a lot. The one thing I when listening to it now, I gotta say I don't know that I love Jack Knife Lee's production on this record. I think sometimes the vocals are recorded

in that distorted manner to make it just disguised so it's not straight up rock and roll. Sometimes it's getting in the way of the melodies that on Mind Smell Like Honey, that guitar lick that's so good is buried in the mix. So I'm not – like sometimes it really works for some of the more hard rocking stuff. Yeah, yeah. But for some of the more subtle stuff, I wish it was recorded a little more like

Out of Time or Life's Rich Pageant. Like, do you wish they took that melody for the verses of Mine Smell Like Honey and have him sing the hell out of that same melody rather than... Then it's kind of buried. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right.

Even Discover, which I think is some of my favorite vocals, it is still kind of back. Yeah, it's still a little back. I think he's singing so well there. Yeah. Yeah. But that's a quibble.

Who knows what choices we would have made. Yeah. You would have had me going in there going, sing it like this. Discoverer! Walk it back. That's what producers do, though. Walk it back. All right.

This was a single this is alligator underscore aviator underscore autopilot underscore antimatter this is a single this was a single yeah I feel like an alligator Climbing up the escalator Climbing up the escalator I feel strong I feel like an aviator pilot Bet you wouldn't buy it I'm feeling violent

Bet you'd be the, turn up the fire Hey, hey, alligator, you've got a lot to learn I have got, have got a lot to learn I'm a rockin' alligator I'm a rockin' alligator I feel like an autopilot I'm a rogue strong as I am I feel like a rage coming under my blood I feel good and calm like a robot boy I feel like an autopilot

I feel like an autopilot I am not a hater, hater, hater, hater, hater Me, me, alligator, you've got to let you down I have got, have got to let you down Yeah! Like, I think the production sounds pretty good on this. This is like right in his wheelhouse, in a way. Sounds great.

This, by the way, features Peaches. And when I read that, I was like, uh-oh. Is this going to be something that doesn't mix well together? Because I love Peaches. Friend of Comedy Bang Bang has been on the show. Oh, really? But I was kind of like, is that going to be like peanut butter and honey and bananas and mayonnaise and ketchup? I like both of them, but maybe.

Right. But I think she's doing great backups. I like her spoken word part as well. And Lenny K is playing guitar on this. Oh, cool. By the the way i don't think this was a single i think i thought it was because it's on their best of it's weird that they put on i think they just love it so they put it on yeah stuff i the my first listen to the record i was like well this is the best song on the album yeah uh some of the other songs have revealed themselves a little yeah to be a little deeper to where i like uberlin maybe better now but but this was the most like scratching that itch of like just dumb yeah

fun pop yeah good melody pop stuff that accelerate seem to be about yeah yeah i love that song hayley what do you think uh yeah definitely top top two or three for me yeah of uh of the record. Of this album, yeah. Of this album, yeah. It's good. It's good rock and roll. Ooh, music. Music. Okay, this is track 10. This is a short song, a minute 44. This is That Someone Is You.

That Someone Is You. With those string of new watercolors The marble giant sat quietly waiting For someone else to make the first move Someone else to make the first move That someone is you That someone is you That someone is you That someone has pulled me up And out of cartoon question Pulled me up and out of me

And with the teary eyes Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do we think? Nice that it slotted right in after Alligator. Yeah. Same kind of... Same kind of feel.

Fun stomping rock song. Like, I would listen to 10 or 12 songs like those songs in a row. I don't know that I need all the variation. Yeah. I just... This is... It's great. The melody is so good in the chorus so catchy

yeah i love this i think the more mike myers is involved the better you know what i mean oh man yeah always the fuzz bass he's kind of playing in some of the rockers, it's, yeah, really. I think the key to unlocking a good R.E.M. record is how much is he singing and doing melodies, you know? And all the way back to the beginning, the keyboards that are always kind of the secret weapon of R.E.M. records.

And they all sound just like that, and it's why they're so good. Yeah, but Mike Mills' keyboard playing, too, is a secret weapon. Should he do a solo record? Why hasn't he done it? Fuck yeah, man. Why hasn't he? To, like, get some people together and do a solo record, bro. I know.

He's doing something, right? He's played live. He's doing, like, an orchestral thing. Orchestral? God damn it. I know. I want him to make a pop record. Just make a pop record.

Do 10 songs like that. I know. I bet he could do it in literally, like Peter Buck likes to make records in two weeks. He could do it in like 10 days. I can't imagine Mike Mills. We got to get him in here. I can't imagine Mike Mills doesn't have,

we got to get him at this barbecue. 100 songs that he could just record and put out a great catchy record and put one out every year

I know he's gonna be the John Paul Jones for the next generation's R.E.M. I think that would be like he could totally do that

what if he just joined some band as their bassist and backup singer that would be great too remember when Dave Grohl played with the Queens of the Stone Age

Heartbreakers oh with the Heartbreakers oh okayhl played with the Queens of the Stone Age? Oh, with the Heartbreakers. Oh, okay. He played with them on SNL, but then I think he did a whole tour with them. Remember when Neil Finn

played with Fleetwood Mac? Oh, that's coming up in December. And Mike Campbell. Yeah, I want to go, definitely. Like,

there's one way to get me to a Fleetwood Mac show, put Neil Finn in it. We should definitely go to that. We should go to that. But not like, because that fucking Kenny Loggins show

just at Michael McDonald. And you were out of town for it. Yeah, but I didn't even know it was happening. Well, I was going to tell you about it and then you, I was going to see if you wanted to go and then

you left town. But we should go to the David Byrne show. Yes. Is he playing soon? Yes, he's playing next month. Let's go. The three of us.

Let's go. Yes. Fun. Fun. This is track 11 out of 12. Me, Marlon Brando, Marlon Brando, and I. Huh. yes fun fun this is track 11 out of 12 me Marlon Brando Marlon Brando

and I huh we live and dream about the future please ask me if I need to pout well no Please ask me if I need to pout Well, no

So through the annals of our flavored times Our heroes and all their fatal thoughts Me, Marlon, Brenda Oh, Marlon, Brenda What I say Lay me down, down, down, down Lay me down, down, down, down, down. Help me up to sleep.

Take me deep again. We live and dream about our heroes I listen closely and I say I'm going to fade it out a little early. No, they went through the chorus, I think. Yeah. What do we think, guys? Get some nice farewell mandolins, kind of a nice little touch at the end.

Get that Mandy on. Yeah. Oh, Mandy, you came and you gave without taking. Was he singing about a mandolin? Yeah. Wow. Stare at the mandolin in my glass. And then you were on, losing my religion.

This is one that grew on me. It didn't catch me this is a grower not a shower yeah the very last time I listened to the record it was one I did not like

yeah and I was thought was very skippable and then the last time I listened to the record I was like oh I like this song yeah

I think the chorus is good it's really pretty yeah and that help me off to sleep is like spooky and yeah

it's like Lucifer come and take my soul. Yeah, that's what it's about. Sweet embrace of death. What if they revealed on their final album that all of their songs are about Satan? Well, I think, I'm not positive this is one of the Michael Stipe sculptures, but I think he put a sculpture in Athens of like a deer-headed, like satanic-looking figure with a bunch of animals. Like from Hereditary?

Yeah, it looked a lot like that, which I was like, yeah. We should, if we're all in New York at the same time, while it's still happening, we got to go to that michael stipe i'm never going to new york again okay um what do you think of that one haley all of the the the lyrical theme of this album seems to have a lot in common with uh find the river um a little less death centric but it's all kind of like saying goodbye and giving some last words of advice which always reminds me of find the River a lot. And this one seems that the feel and the atmosphere is a lot like

Try Not to Breathe. Yeah, yeah. And a lot of talk about heroes on the album. Yeah. Like Jon Bon Jovi. Jon Bon Jovi obviously had an influence. He mentions heroes a few times, and I don't know if he's talking about like

we're not that and now we're leaving or I don't know is he talking about his own personal heroes yeah yeah maybe speaking of which this is the last song

on the album um a sort of duet with one of his personal heroes and I would imagine friends

because we saw them jawing together at the party after U2 uh this is Blue featuring Patti Smith, also co-written by Patti Smith. Here we go.

Listen to that train. It's got me. Really jonesing for riding the rails. I walk the streets alone That's the other song of theirs Out of time Out of time I owe circus up the stakes, a broken rope, useless mud The ties that bind, ha ha, I can be that poet Street poet, shit poet, kind poet too

Subway, almost 4am, Halloween I've had enough to drink to make my own party All my fellow writers in half costume, half asleep Half silly, gone to seed I don't mark my time with dates, holidays Fate, wisdom, luck, karma, whores Convenient I am made by my times

I am the creation of now Shaken with the cracks and crevices I'm not getting up easy I will not fall I don't have much But what I have is gold I saw your face I sing in platinum, I dress in brass I eat a sing, let it pass

Capari toast, I like that I understand courage, I still roll With a shout of a cab driver's bat Toothed egg, I try to see outside myself I understand the eyes, excuse all the eyes Alright, I'm going to turn it down. Not really a chorus on this one. This is a lot like the one song on Out of Time that I don't... Country Feedback. Country Feedback, yeah.

This is probably my least favorite style of R.E.M. song. rem song this is a song that i 100 get some being annoyed by it and at it um but next to it because of what it is it's being the official goodbye and he's saying everything yeah saying goodbye to the other guys in the band to patty Smith, talking about what he thinks of himself and where he is in context. Do they include the lyrics of this on the record? Yeah. His spoken word part? And then the,

it segueing into- Yeah, well, when that happens, we'll talk about it, yeah. It, that when that happens, it still, it's not going to today, but it still moves me to tears when that happens. I want to watch this. No, it's not going to happen today but it still moves me to tears when that happens.

I want to watch this. No, it's not going to happen today. It's not going to happen? No, but this song as its own thing. Are you afraid to cry around me? Of course not. I think that you and I should just cry. Just cry together one of these days.

Buh-huh-huh-huh-huh. Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh. Guys, there's still live albums to do. It's okay. It's true. There'll be reissues, right? Yeah. I think that I can see why you'd be annoyed by it,

but it's just... Yeah, I do. Yeah, of course. But I do... Again, when it segues, we'll just talk about it because it's about to happen, and when it segues into the reprise of Discoverer, the first track, I was a little like,

okay, I get it now a little bit. It's like, goodbye. We've been R.E.M. Yeah. Later, bros. It's felt very good to be in R.E.M.

But they'd never done anything like that before a reprise yeah of right or that links back to the front of the album I love that me too

the first time I listened to it going like oh this is without even knowing it was the last album yeah this is kind of a downbeat way yeah as you know frayed with meaning as the song is

and then when they go back to discover it's like oh okay yeah and then you still go out the door with something that makes you not sad. It's about to happen here. Yeah, totally. Sounds like the Yes song.

Mainstream electrical parade. because it's linking back to his first trip to new york when the band is just starting and just seeing the possibilities for the first time. Do you hear the people sing? Singing Do you hear the people sing? Singing the main thing. Now it's like the end of the play where everyone comes up with their hands singing the main thing. And we will be friends for all time. Wait, are we skipping the very last sounds of the very last R.E.M. album? No, here it is. Here it is.

The song itself is maybe a little close to country feedback for me. Like, it sounds very similar. But it's cool, and I love it. But I see why you would be annoyed with it. See, he talks about Discoverer being one of the only autobiographical songs he's written. Although, leaving New York, I think he did that once because I saw him at the forum. Yeah.

But I think it's definitely interesting. Like, it's about a guy who, I don't know, what does New York mean to him? It's like a place that he could go find, like be around similarly weird people or something? He got horse, he ordered horses or something in 1975. And Patti Smith, like, and her association with New York was like a place that he wanted to get to as soon as possible. And it sort of saved his life in a way?

Maybe, but it's, yeah, I remember in that same interview, he's like, yeah, I ate a whole bowl of cherries, listened to horses for the first time and then like threw up and went to school and was like I have to like get out of here so it's very meaningful

to him yeah and that's why it's like having her on the last track even though it's more of a you know a sound

or a poem or something it's like that's so significant the band would not exist we wouldn't exist without her

here she is she's now my buddy yeah we're gonna go see you too guys don't worry don't worry we're gonna be at this

after party and two weirdos will not come up and talk to us they're just gonna stay away do not worry well that's the last

track of the last REM record but we do have one B-side to get to, if that's okay. It's a little track called NOLA 42610. Which I guess is New Orleans. Is that NOLA? New Orleans, Louisiana?

Yeah. Just an instrumental. Maybe even titled that because they tracked it in New Orleans on 42610 and never gave it an actual title. Yeah, maybe. But there it is. So, guys, that's the last REM record. We'll talk about it in a future episode, Adam, about their breakup

and what it meant to you. We'll do the part trash you. Yeah, I think we should do the part trash, part... Yeah, sure. But we'll, yeah. So we'll talk about that. But how do we feel about this as a record in relation to their other records? Haley, what do you think? I think it's a really fitting end for them.

It's crazy because at the time it seemed like a step, as I said earlier, a step towards a new era for R.E.M. But later that summer they announced the breakup. I was sad. But I believed them when they had that short statement that was like, there's no animosity. Nothing is wrong. We just want to finish at the right time. And this album gives that impression

you know very powerfully like yeah this is always people who made you know virtually all the right decisions their entire career

so yeah um well Haley there is one thing we have to get to before the end of the show and that is a little something

of your personal R.E.M. top 10 songs. Oh, yeah. So, you sent these to me earlier, so I know what they are,

and I have them all queued up. So, let's go for this. And this is out of all R.E.M. songs, this is your personal top ten. And I was very surprised to see this one in the top ten, but what is it? If I remember correctly, top ten... You didn't bring them. No, I remember. I remember.

You do remember. Yeah, it's top 10... You can just look up the email where it was sent to. Track 7 from 1995's Monster. I knew you would remember. You guys are like Rain Man nerds. I feel like we're equal in our fandom.

Rem Man. I don't know why but it's important for me to remember the exact date me too this is Tongue from Monster yeah

ding dong now would you say this is number 10 of no this was so hard and ultimately I just kind of

made them in order and then didn't second guess myself or I would have spent two days on it. Oh, yeah, I do like this one. Awesome song. We're R.E.M. Feels good to be in R.E.M. Feels good.

Fucking stout. All right, track nine is... Nice. This is from Up. Yeah, this is Sad Professor. Did they play this when... No, I don't think I ever saw them play this live. Now, this is about Robin Williams and Flubber, right?

Thought he was happy, invented Flubber. He was happy for a minute, but then like about two-thirds of the way through the movie, it all went to hell. Maybe it's him in Dead Poets Society or Good Will Hunting because he's sad. That's what it's about. Sad professor. William Goldman actually wrote this song um uh yeah that's when like an up gets so little love but i just think this is a great great great song yes and this this vocal right here is so great this is very radio heady in my opinion there yeah

okay track eight yeah okay track eight yeah this is a talk about the passion talk about the passion now this is before your time, in a way. This is, and like you, if I remember correctly, eponymous was my first foray into the 80s. I went to the Warehouse Records in La Crescenta. Where? The Warehouse.

That was their slogan. Yeah. Where? Oh, I don't remember that. Picked through all the monsters and found this one, and then from there jumped into Murmur and all the 80s albums. But yeah, to write a song this good this early in your career is pretty nuts. Yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah. Talk about the passion. Feels good. This is one song, too, where you think the lyrics are one thing. I thought he was saying, pull me in to talk for years and years and years until I finally googled it and was like oh

what is it oh it's Comme Bien De Tom like how long yeah it's about like world hunger and everything oh okay alright this is track 7

or your 7th favorite R.E.M. song mhm another 80s pick I can see my dad at Legion Field 1983 I mean this was I can see my dad at Legion Field, 1983. I mean, this is...

Unbelievably good. This is what they played on Letterman when your dad saw them. Which version is this? This is from the record, Reckoning. So great. What's different about the two versions? The eponymous version is the vocals from them shooting the video i don't know that that's right it is right it's several people have said that you're not no it's correct

because he wouldn't lip sync so no i know that i know that i know that that's right for the video i just don't know that that's the version play the eponymous version you don't hear a slight oh really i have it And I don't see that on the Wikipedia entry either. Well, Wikipedia doesn't... But... You don't want to listen to it right now? No.

All right. This is... What are we up to? This is six? It's number six, yeah. This is... Yeah. Gotta give Mike Mills

some deep vocal love. Fear wild heaven And this is one of the very first R.E.M. songs I ever heard On that cassette Why was this one Did someone turn off the previous song Right at that cassette One thing I remember is that with Radio Song

Because I just started reading basically I didn't understand you could have guests on your song So I was looking at the back With the four of them going like, who's doing KRS-One's part? And I think I was like, it must be Peter Buck. DJ sucks. What if that was Peter Buck?

That would be amazing. That's so funny. You didn't know that you could have guests on. Yeah, you had to pull the little cassette thing out and really read to see what was going on. I just assumed it was only those four guys looking up at the camera. That's so funny. That's how albums should be.

Yeah. That's a lot like Andy Daly's Only the People on Stage Should Be Playing. Oh, yeah. Okay, this is track five, or your fifth favorite. Yeah. I love it. I love that you're just sticking to classics well you're also sticking to for the most part a certain time period this is what i listened to the far and away the most we all like

yeah what we all like the things we liked as kids yeah that's why certain people love like we like adam and i like the first three star movies, that's why kids younger than you, I think, like the prequels the best. I guess. I haven't met one yet. I don't know. No, there are so many people who love the prequels the best. Dude, I can't believe you were at Skywalker Ranch for that screen. Oh, yeah. That's amazing.

There are so many people who love the prequels who hate the new ones. No. It's very weird. I just feel it's like for us, I guess we're in the same Star Wars generation, it's just like I connect with the original VHSs. So now I don't dislike things so much. This is just a different thing. But those were the ones you watched as a kid.

Yeah. People like the things they saw when they were kids. Okay, this is four or five? This is four. This is four. Yeah. This to me might be like the most R.E.M., R.E.M. song. Yeah.

Like you got to have Patti Smith on there. So great. When they did this live, like Tom York would do the Patti Smith part. Like this is a great, great song. Probably shouldn't use it as the lead single though. I think you're right about that. All right. I wish it was a number one hit.

Tremolo's back crush with eyeliner also from monster crush with eyeliner this yeah from monster this is probably hitting you in the just like yeah hitting you in the n nards love that you have two monster songs on here yeah that's amazing that was where I fell in love okay so are we at your number one

this is number was that I think that was three wasn't it oh was it three yeah this is number two yeah this is number two yeah

oh yeah yeah shout shout this is a try not to breathe Shout. This is Try Not To Breathe from Automatic for the People. Try Not To Breathe. That song Exploder they did on this was so

incredible. I hadn't found a lot of that information about the background of it before and there's just so much going into it. Getting to hear the isolated tracks like that. I think with Bill Barry's weird radio, there's just so much going into it. Getting to hear the isolated tracks like that. I think with Bill Barry's like weird radio, there's so much put into that. I love that song. Go listen to that if you want to

and stop listening to us. This is your favorite track. Number one, I think the quintessential R.E.M. song, although I said that was Ebo, but whatever. Okay. Yeah. I think this is also like the best song ever written about L.A.

Yeah. Hold on. Best song ever written about L.A. Yeah. Hold on. Best song ever written about L.A.? I'm throwing it out there. Have you ever been to a Dodgers game? Oh, I'm sorry. Century Boulevard. We love it.

Look at that bum over there. Sixth Street. I love it. You ever listen to the intro they don't normally use where he's like, New York is terrible. Yeah. Cincinnati is terrible. But you know what's cool?

Boom, doo, doo. All right, imagine you've just seen Adam get married. He's handed you a CD. What do you do with it? It's on Scott's boat. Scott dives down to get it. Do you pop it on in the car on the way home? Oh, after the wedding?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Or do you just throw it on in the car on the way home? Oh, after the wedding? Yeah. Oh, yeah, or do you just throw it directly into the garbage? Well, it depends on what else is on that CD. Do you throw it like a frisbee at the Naomi? What did you fit into 80 minutes on that CD? I have to find the track listing and bring it in. Please share that. I'm so curious.

Okay, I'm going to really. I'm sure my parents have a copy. Because on the last episode, we should listen to this. Okay. We should go through it. Where is it in this track listing, if you remember? I think it's right after Moon River, the Audrey Hepburn version. Nice.

Yeah. And right before, maybe, if not for you, the George Harrison, Bob Dylan. If not for you. Or no, not duet. George Harrison's just playing slide guitar on it. Yeah. Anyway, we got to find that. Doesn't sound too bad, right?

No. I'm sure there was something embarrassing on it. No, no, I don't want to hear it for embarrassing things. No, I know. I just want to hear what it is. I bet it's cool. Good top ten. You like the top ten, Adam?

Oh, man, It was great. Thank you. I love the representation of the later stuff. It's awesome. A little bit of early stuff. Not too much in the back two. Or back three. Yeah, it was hard to...

Oh, you know what I honestly almost put on? It seems a little silly. It's Beach Ball. Because a lot of R.E. of rem songs that are real favorite like tongue is like this um i don't sleep i dream is like this just an atmosphere where you feel like you're in a place and beach ball is like i would listen to that at the beach and feel really happy yeah yeah maybe the best song about a beach ball ever absolutely maybe we should make a top 10 list of best songs about beach ball related songs yeah well hayley it's our pleasure to uh

be with you and to talk about all this stuff with you um very fun thank you guys both i sound like a robot i'm sorry it's very fun we enjoy your stuff um any last words you want to say about REM? What they mean to you? To me, aside from the songs that I love, there's plenty of music and musicians I've liked that I'd have trouble defending a lot of things about their lives. But these are guys who always use their power for good. And it was the right people to be powerful at this time and that Tom you know is on this continuum

of people from like Patti Smith and then he you know tried to help Kurt Cobain he was a great friend

to Tom Yorick like they're just a good band that you can feel great about so very happy to listen to them always

awesome awesome well that's gonna be it for us but that's not our final episode no not by any means we still have stuff to do so join us. But that's not our final episode. No, not by any means. We still have stuff to do.

So join us next week. And until then, we certainly hope that you have found what you are looking for. Bye.

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