U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - R U Talkin' R.E.M. RE: ME? - Man on the Moon Soundtrack (w/ Edgar Wright)

Episode Date: June 13, 2018

Filmmaker Edgar Wright (Baby Driver) joins Adam Scott Aukerman to discuss the soundtrack to the 1999 film Man on the Moon. Edgar talks about the decision to put R.E.M.’s “New Orleans Instrumental No. 1” in Baby Driver, what he thinks makes for good music in movies and films, and what makes a good soundtrack. Plus, stick around for Oscar winning composer Steven Price’s version of “New Orleans Instrumental No. 1.” This episode is brought to you by Leesa (www.leesa.com/REM) and Sound of Vinyl (www.soundofvinyl.com/REM).

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Good. Good. Have you ever really just sat down and thought about the word good? I mean, it's confusing because it's spelled good. Right. You know. Right. That's one of the things you can think about.

While you contemplate this word. The word, yeah. Every time you read that word you should be sitting and actually thinking about it for a good 25 minutes and if you're not sitting uh you should find a seat immediately yes by the way speaking of sitting this is something i was thinking about the other day okay okay and i wanted to bring this up on today's show by the way hello scott ackerman here hi hi everybody Okay, we all know who the host of the show is. Blah, blah, blah.

Adam Scott, Big Little Lies, coming back at some point on HBO. Scott Aukerman, TV show-less currently. It's just endless list of credits and wonderful things, both of us. Blah, blah, blah. Sure, sure, sure. Thank you. But speaking of sitting down, okay, you know that insult of like, you probably like squat to pee or you probably sit down to pee?

Uh-huh. Yeah, sitting down to pee. Uh-huh. Yeah. Sitting down's great. I sit down to watch TV too. You got a problem with that? Yeah. What do you stand while you watch TV? Right.

And if you stand while you're peeing, your pee gets all over the place. Yeah. I don't understand these people who are proud of the fact that they're ambulatory while they pee. I don't understand. The only place where it's just, you can't miss when you're standing and peeing is out in the woods. Sure, of course. Other than that, you run the risk of getting it on the floor or on the little thing.

Also, you never know what's going to slip out at the last minute towards the back. Like a poop? Because that's a weird thing to say. Why is it a weird thing to say? Have you not? Have you not? Adam Scott tried to do a P standing up and then something slipped out the back. Oh, like my wallet?

Yes. That's what I'm talking about. All the time. Is this an episode of Like My Wallet? I believe so. I left my wallet in El Segundo. Left my wallet in El Segundo. Hey, everyone. All the time. Is this an episode of Like My Wallet? I believe so. I left my wallet in El Segundo. Left my wallet in El Segundo. Hey, everyone.

This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're just talking about how much we like our wallets today. Let's get them out. Get them out, everybody. Get them out. Whip them out. Come on.

Come on. Get out your wallets out there in podcast land. Check this out. Oh, you have a money clip. I have a money clip. That's not even a wallet. I've been on the money clip train's not even a wallet i've been on the money clip train as they say uh for like five years wait is this an episode of money clip

train i believe it is hey everyone this is scott and this is Scott. Welcome to Money Clip Train. We say that in unison every episode, of course. Every time. And choo-choo, all aboard, we are getting on that Money Clip Train. All aboard the Money Clip Train. Ning, ning, ning, ning, ning, ning, ning. Get your money clips on the Money Clip Train. And everyone off that Money Clip Train. Get off the train.

End of the line. With your money clip. Everyone gets the fuck off. Get off the train god damn it. God damn it. Give me your money clip. We'll see you next time. Bye. Anyway, so money clip. when did you switch over uh about five years ago five years ago i got this skinny wallet now which is hard to take yeah hard to take credit cards out of which and

i'll do that once a day i would say pay for something sure the other time i usually you know try to you pay finagle i try to finagle my friends into paying for things. Oh, you get others to pay for you. A combination of bartering and getting others to pay. Sure. No, but I mean cash is even worse. That's why I've gone completely cashless. By the way, the fact that we use credit cards and ATM cards is like how are muggers doing out there these days?

I never carry any cash. Frustrating business. I used to carry hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash. At all times. At all times. Like, if you were to mug me, chances are you could retire. Oh, man, you'd be a rich son of a bitch. So, wait.

So, what you're saying is the wallet you've settled on is a pain in the ass. It's kind of a pain in the ass, but it's so skinny. I used to have, like like a fat wallet that would... Me too. And then I switched from... I used to sit in the back where the poop comes out, and someone told me, well, you're going to get scoliosis

from sitting on your wallet all the time. Well, did you have it filled with receipts? Yes. And credit cards? Everything. Everything. You know what I've done is I've... Not only is it a money clip, so it's thin and small,

I've paired it down to... All right, we'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye. That was a great episode. Really good. Kind of cut off abruptly at the end. No, I think it maybe cut off at the exact right time. It's kind of like The Sopranos final episode.

Oh, God. Welcome to the show. We're going to be... This is exciting. We're going to be talking about the Man on the Moon soundtrack today. And we have a special guest coming in, Adam. And I don't know how well you know this gentleman. Yeah.

But he's a great guy. And I've been hanging out with him a bit over the past year or so. And Edgar Wright, famed director of... Filmmaker. Filmmaker, I mean, yeah. Exactly. He makes films. He's made a couple of movies, I have to say.

Sorry, is this an episode of I Love Films? Oh, no, it's not. Okay. But he's going to come in and talk about the Man on the Moon soundtrack and his love for all things. Well, it sounds like the beginning of Black Sabbath. What is it, Paranoid? Paranoid.

Yes. Now, Edgar used an R.E.M. song in one of his films. Yes, on the Baby Driver soundtrack part two, which we'll be talking about. I have both of those queued up as well, and we'll be going through the entire Man on the Moon soundtrack in order. So that'll be coming up in a little bit. And before we get to that, Adman. Yeah, bro. People call you the Adman? Oh, yeah.

Mainly because you sell ads for TV shows and radio programs. I sell ads in airspace for regional radio stations. You're a lot like the character Billy Crystal played in City Slickers. That's right. That's right. I sell air. You just sell lot like the character Billy Crystal played in City Slickers. That's right. That's right. I sell air. You just sell air. It's nothing.

I sell air. You sell vibrations. Let's go out to the countryside and ride horses. We should. I actually, you joke about it and quite honestly,

it's a really funny joke. That wasn't a joke. Holy shit, really? Were you really asking me? Yes. Do you want to go right now? Right fucking

now. Let's go. All right. fucking now. Let's go. All right. All right. Bye, guys. Bye. Bye. Hey.

Hey. Everyone off the horses. Hey! Everyone off the horses! What are you doing with my horse? Oh! Oh, we're back. Man, that was intense. But worth it. It's definitely worth it.

I'm glad we filmed it too so our remake of City Slickers will be out very, very soon. You joke, but—and it's a really great joke. Thank you. But I would not be surprised if a reboot of City Slickers comes back in two years and you're in it. You know, I watched it about 10 months ago. 10 minutes ago. I was – Like, what if you came here right from watching it and we somehow brought it up?

I didn't see the whole thing, but I started watching it. And, like, the first 15 – Jake Gyllenhaal is like a child in that movie. Is he in it? He's really a little kid. But I was watching it. Comes from a show business family. Show biz, yeah. And I thought this movie

is ripe for a remake. Really? Yeah, when I was watching it about 10 months ago. Look, you should be the, what part would you be? You know what? It was probably more like

eight months ago. All right. You know, I could, I think it was September of 17. Look, let's narrow this down. Do you mind getting out your calendar? Do you want me to tell you the circumstances? Yeah, please.

What were you doing? This is a lot like what we do on this show is we flash back to what we were doing while we listened to or watched something. This is flashing back to what I was doing when I re-watched part of City Slickers a very small part. Like literally the first like eight minutes.

What were you doing? What were you doing? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter? It doesn't matter. Now you don't want to talk about it. Not really. What part would you play?

Would you play Billy Crystal? What do we got? Or Bruno Kirby? Or the Stern Man? Or Jack Palance? That's true. You could pull that off. Sure.

Could you do even one two-armed push-up? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, I can't do two-armed. I can only do one-armed push-ups. Really? You spread those legs wide? And only during awards ceremonies. I'd like to play the stern character.

I'm fine not being the lead. I kind of am a little upset I'm not the second lead, but I'll take third lead. Sure, sure. So you would skip over second lead and go straight to third as well. Yeah, I would probably do that just to ensure that I get in there. But I'll tell you what, Adam. In this climate, it's probably going to be a female reboot.

Oh, yeah. Hey, listen. I would go see that movie. You know why? Why? Because I liked the first one. More like City Slick hers. Oh, shit. What am I doing, Iron Man? Is that what it is? Sweet Leaf.

Sweet Leaf! Don't get on mic, Brian. What did I call you, Brian? I don't know. Brett. Look, ever since Chef Kevin got on mic and starts, you know, it starts going to his head, I don't want my engineers getting on mic, okay? Like, this is the one show that people are not allowed to get on mic and get famous on.

So, Brett, by the way, now you're like a regular on Who Charted. Not on my show. Is this an episode of Not on my show? I think it might be. So much good! Not on my show Is this an episode of Not on my show? I think it might be Hey everyone, welcome to Not on my show This is Scott Not on my show! Bye

Anyway, good app We got a lot to talk about before Edgar gets here I made a list Do you have anything you want to say beforehand? Okay. I want to make a correction. Last week, I couldn't think of who Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald, modern artists who they appeared on a recent song.

And it's Thundercat. Thundercat. Do you want to hear a little bit of it? Sure. Okay. Remember I was talking about this and I was like, they were just on a song, but I couldn't remember who it was. Thundercats.

This is the recent song that Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins both guest on. So far, pretty hard. Can I put my wallet away? I think it goes without saying at the end of that episode. You might want to pull it out because you might want to buy this song. Yeah, this is pretty good. Goes on like this. They each solo in it, I believe. But a pretty good song.

Is there a chorus? No. A hook? This is the verse. This is the verse. This is the verse. These guys were smoking some sensimelia, I believe, back in the 70s. Again, this is the verse. Let me get to a chorus.

Hold on. Oh, there you go. These guys are great. Oh, yeah. They're great guys are great. Oh, yeah. They're great. So good. Both of those dudes. We should go see them at the Hollywood Bowl.

So they're touring together and then... I believe so. Yeah, we should. They're doing two nights. We should pick one of them. Yes. What else? Anyway, people wrote to me saying,

It's Thundercat, goddammit. People hate it when they listen to a podcast and someone doesn't know something. So I apologize, but I didn't know. I also want to say someone made a really funny video for our unofficial theme song. How does it feel when you're in REM? We'll watch the video, but we'll play the song again. It's great. Because we play it all the time.

But the video is really funny. Using REM. Is that our unofficial theme song, would you say? Yeah, but it's unofficial. This is a song that means a huge amount to me because I wrote it when I came out of a very bad, very dark period. How does it feel when you're in R.E.M.? Are you watching it? What?

Are you watching it? Yeah. Oh, yeah, sorry. It feels good. It feels good. They timed the video it's like REM concert footage that they timed to the song it's really really funny

I don't know who did it it's great I don't really care what's it called on YouTube so people can find it yeah it's how does it feel when you're in REM live

by by Sir Sir John Floyd. And of course, the original track is by Troubles Afoot on SoundCloud. Troubles Afoot. Go check out that song

and you can download it as well as other songs that Troubles Afoot wrote. Go check that out. Recently, you two were playing in Atlanta, I believe, and they threw out some little tip of the hat to R.E.M. Is this an episode of you talking U2 to me?

I believe so. From boy to breaking wave, every last one of them, that is, this is you talking U2 to me, the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things U2. This is good rock and roll music. Welcome back, and we're here with, this is Scott, by the way. Oh, hey, this is Adam.

Or Scott, whatever you want to say. Hey, you're being cool. Now, we were talking before the show about something but i wanted to bring it up on this show what were you saying well uh you two was playing in atlanta last week and they tipped the hat a little bit to uh rem because i believe our our boy mike uh myers was in the was in the crowd right oh is that what it was well he was in the crowd on the on the opener right was he in the crowd there oh no they just he they what it was? Well, he was in the crowd on the opener. Right. Was he in the crowd there? Oh, no, they were in Georgia.

I see, I see, I see. What did they say? Because people sent that to me, but I never read what they actually said. He sang End of the World As We Know It lyrics at the end of either, was it the end of Elevation or something like that? So let's see how this would go. Or Vertigo. It was the end of Vertigo.

Okay, the end of vertigo. Hello, hello. I don't know if you're in a vertigo. I don't ever know what you gave me something I could feel. Leonard Bernstein. Something like that. Great. See you next time.

Bye. That was cool. There was another U2 thing I wanted to bring up, but I'm forgetting what it was. Well, we should just do – we'll do another episode of them. Sure. At some point. Our guest is wondering where to park, and I'm going to say park anywhere. Okay.

Now, one other thing I want to ask about. Last week for Up, we each did a re-sequencing and the fans were very interested in them. What did they say? We're taking a lot of sides on which one they liked. Some liked mine, some liked yours. And we said we would listen to each other's and see what we thought of them.

Did you listen to mine? I did. Oh, you did? I did. What do you think? Well, you know, it's good, but the only problem with it— Good is the enemy of great? The only problem with it for me was that the two songs that I—

Diminished and Parakeet are missing? but the two songs that I... Diminished and Parakeet are missing? Yes, and You're in the Air and The Apologist are on there. And you don't like those two. Those are the ones I kind of felt like are the most disposable. They're kind of... Especially You're in the Air, I feel, kind of is draggy. And Diminished is such a great song.

I listened to both of them today. I can go either way on Diminished. Like I said, I think last week I could put it in or not put it in. It just didn't work with the sequencing. Parakeet, I listened to again today. Not really a fan. But I listened to yours again, and I think it's really good. The only thing I would say is I think side one is a little short.

I think it needs one more song. Because it ends with... It ends with Why Not Smile, Oxford, but it only has four songs before then. I think it needs one more. Anyway, so, but some good stuff. Yeah, you're right. I like yours as well.

I felt like Day Sleeper so early in the album. It's almost like I understand putting the single up top, and it's such a solid song. It really works. But I feel like the latter half of the album needs a little oomph to it. But I like the combination of Hope and day sleeper on yours. Yeah. I think those are cool.

And what do you think about Airport Man closing? Conceptually, I like it, but practically, I feel like— You're a practical guy. I like how they end their albums with a bang, and it's such a— Sometimes literally. Sometimes it'll be like— Just bang! Or someone just going bang

onomatopoeic or they have lance bangs yeah just like going hey goodbye everybody this has been lance bangs closing it out bye all right good stuff anyway let us know uh how you liked it uh i also have uh some other stuff to bring up uh jonathan galkin at um dfa records uh sent me a big big care package the other day uh sent me a lot of stuff and i wanted to give you some of the some of the stuff that i already had i get some of it yeah do you uh so i wanted to give you a couple of holy ghost records cool uh something by by The Rapture and LCD Sound System's first record. Oh, rad. And some of the stuff that he sent that I had never heard of that I really liked were

Slim Twig. Liked that a lot. Liked, I think it's pronounced Esai Pa, maybe? E-S-S-A-I-E-P-A-S. I really like Prince Horn Dance School and especially the Juan McLean. Do you know the Juan McLean? I believe that is Nancy from LCD Sound System's side project. Oh, cool.

And when LCD Sound System were broken up, I think it was the main project. sound system were broken up. I think it was the main project, but let me see if I can find a little bit of it here for you to listen to to see if you like the Juan McClain. This is the Juan McClain with everybody. No, actually, I'm going to play A Place Called Space. Sounds spacey already, huh? This is their first record. This is their first record. Typical electronic music ramping up.

Uh-huh. Anyway, it gives you sort of a good idea. Anyway, it's weird. I don't have LCCD Sound System's first record, but I know all these songs. Yeah, that's the first record, and then the second disc is all of their early singles before the first record came out. This is awesome. Yes, so enjoy all those.

I feel like I have all of this, but not on a thing. This is great. Love it. Love it. Thank This is great. Love it. Love it. Thank you, Jonathan. Appreciate it. I mean, he sent me like a long box full of probably 30 records. That's great.

So I'm getting like four things. You're getting my runoff. Okay. Holy Ghost is great. Yeah, Holy Ghost is really great. I really like them. Also want to thank fan Rachel Gillingham wrote us a letter, although she didn't actually send it.

She just tweeted us a picture of it. Oh, okay. So thanks. But loyal listener. What'd she say? Just how much she loves the show. It makes her happy, et cetera. That's nice.

Stuff like that. So thank you to Rachel. How you doing out there? All right. So got a lot to talk about with Edgar. When we come back, we are going to be talking about the Man on the Moon soundtrack as well as other things. We will be right back with more Are You Talking R.E.M. Remy? Our guest Edgar Wright will be here after the

break yes enjoy a little of the juan mclean until then hey adam today's episode is brought to you, this is the second week in a row, by the way, by The Sound of Vinyl. Oh, yeah. The Sound of Vinyl, a new way to collect vinyl records. Now, The Sound of Vinyl is not just a record store. Although it would be great if it was. I would go to it. Okay, but it's not.

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Records. Okay, so the Sound of Vinyl just sells the circular thing that's a record, not the circular thing that's a hamburger. No. Although, if you want a hamburger, they'd be happy to make one for you. I'm sure they would. They'd sell it to you for money. And Top Chef quality as well.

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Hello, why are you calling me? Talk about communication in the 21st century. Talk about it in the 20th century. That's a little more my speed. Okay. So what they do is they text you with a vinyl offer like uh the other like just okay let me let me see what they texted me today all right here we go okay today they texted me beach boys 15 big ones 25 dollars three dollars shipping free returns is it called 15 big beefers

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saw, like, I was saying last week, I saw Beck's new Colors record. They have different colors of every single side of it. It's great. It's really great. Get special edition records from REM. They have a bunch of REM on there. Fantastic. Uh-huh.

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We're going to be talking about the Man on the Moon soundtrack, of course. On track, of course. And we have a very special guest who is coming to us from, as they say, across the Atlantic Ocean. Okay, I thought you were going to say across the pond. Why would I say that? Well, that's the— That's really rude. Isn't that the expression? That's really rude.

Why would you think I would say that? Wait, why would that be rude? That's really fucking— Rude? i would say that wait why would that be that's really fucking rude yeah rude rude well now i think you're being fucking rude wait is this an episode of you're being fucking rude yeah hi everyone this is sc. And this is Scott. And welcome to You're Being Fucking Rude. And to my right is a person who encapsulates the very title of this podcast, because he's fucking rude.

You know what, Scott? No joke. You're being fucking rude. You know what? I wouldn't even try to joke about this, because you're being fucking rude. I feel like you should try to joke about it and fucking fail, bro. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Fuck you, fucking rude. Eat shit. Eat shit. See you next time. Bye. Bye.

That was a good ep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was gripping. It was really like a lot of inherent drama. I don't want to say suspenseful, but like- But maybe better, like more suspenseful than any Alfred Hitchcock movie? Yeah, like better than any movie I've ever seen sort of thing. Yeah, yeah. Like Lawrence of Arabia.

Wait a minute. Is this an episode of I Love- We got to wait until our next guest. Okay, okay, okay. Before we go and do an episode of I Love Film. Yeah. Or I Love yeah or i think that's actually why he he's here is to be on yeah i think we may not do rem at all and just do an episode of i love film um he is the director of uh let's be honest he he has uh his filmography is a few films and his movieography is a couple of movies. And I want to figure out like what he thinks is a movie and what he thinks is a film.

Oh, no, that's an age old question. He has, if my calculations are correct. If my calculations are correct. He has completed six full-length major motion pictures, of which Fistful of Fingers is one. Is that correct? 78 minutes. It's barely a feature film.

It's barely, but we consider it to be one. Yes. And by the way, don't talk until I introduce you. It's like you're being fucking rude. Fucking rude. The age-old trap. Ask the guest a question and then snap at him um he is the director of uh some wonderful films including uh baby driver and uh the end of the world no what is it called the

world's end same thing when you really you know what i mean like can't we just call it the end of the world no because that fits in with the REM theme. Sean saves the planet. What is it? What is it? What is it? Mom and dad save the planet. Mom and dad save the planet. Mac and me.

Please welcome Edgar Wright. Edgar Wright. I'm trying to give you some entrance music. Oh, nice. You forgot that that song has an intro. Welcome, Edgar. How are you, buddy? I'm good.

How are you? Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. Yeah. Welcome to the show. We were talking about before you got here that you put an R.E.M. song in Baby Driver. You did. I mean, I was going to get to that, but okay.

We're getting right to it. Yeah. Why bury the lead? to get to that, but okay. We're getting right to it. Why bury the lead? Let's talk about the soundtracks to Baby Driver because you put out two great ones.

And I have them here on the old iPod. You see, I like you're using an iPod and you have the vinyl right in front of you. I know, well. It's right there. You were nice enough to give me this as a... Do you call it a gift or was it did you like write it off on your taxes?

No, I didn't. No, it was a gift. It was a gift. Thank you, President, because you did some Q&As opening weekend with me. I did a Q&A for you. I was happy to do it. And you gave me a nice signed vinyl. Signed by you. Yeah. Not the cast.

And you put on an R.E.M. track on the Baby Driver 2 soundtrack. You put on New Orleans Instrumental No. 1. Let's hear a little bit of it. What part of Baby Driver is this? I would imagine it's someone looking at someone, not contemptuously, but contemplatively. It's when he drops off his foster father at the old folks' home and then leaves him

and leaves a recorded message because he leaves him a recorded message on his lamp and then has to leave. So it's kind of like a goodbye scene. Could you do some of the dialogue too? My name is Joseph. that's how it starts um yeah it's funny actually because there was a point i used it as um it wasn't one that was written into the original script and then when i was

editing the movie i usually write the songs into the script like as you're going i did with this one yeah because it's all based on music you you had to, right? Yeah. I mean, I wrote nearly everything into the script and then this one came later and I was always a fan of this track from the album. Did you think you were going to use score

or did you have a different song? Well, that's what's funny is I used it in the sort of the, I used it in the temp and I was going to get, because it was a question of Temperature. The temperature,

the temporary soundtrack. So I had put the R.E.M. song in there. Adam's looking over at me like, either good one or shut the fuck up. I can't tell. It's so solidly good one. So it was in the temporary version, and I liked it, but there was a question of how many songs we could afford. Right.

How many songs are actually in? Like 36 songs. Needle Drops. Wow. Yeah, Baby Driver. That's crazy. So did you get everything that you wanted? Yeah.

The only things that we couldn't get were a couple of, sometimes they were like hip-hop songs where they were unclearable. It wasn't a question of samples. Because of the original sample? Yes, because there were samples in it that had never been cleared themselves and it got into a whole rights issue. But the R.E.M. song,

I really liked it in there, but I thought, well, maybe this is a good place. We have a great composer, Steve Price, Oscar-winning composer. This is a good place for some score. The funny thing is, Steve Price himself is a massive R.E.M. fan

and he goes, oh, I do love that New Orleans instrument. So it was in the temp and he watched it and he was like, that actually works. I mean, it is really great. He goes, I'll do something, but you know, that's really great. Because it sounds like score. I honestly, I saw the movie before listening to this album

and I thought it was score. When you saw the movie, did you realize it was REM? Oh, yeah. I nudged Naomi and said, that's New Orleans instrument. Did you? Shut up. Were you doing the popcorn trick during that as well? I nudged Naomi and said, that's New Orleans Instrumental No. 2. Were you doing the popcorn trick during that as well? Well, New Orleans Instrumental No. 2 is a signal, please put your hand in the popcorn and give me a handjob.

It's always good to trick your wife into giving you a handjob because after a few years, they're just not into it. But what happened was that I was in there until very late, and I think some journalists from Empire had seen the movie early because they have to write articles about it, and they'd seen it before it was finished. How early are we talking? Like, you know, months before coming out. Because I saw it in March, and it came out in, what, June?

Yeah. It was before then. South by Southwest. Yeah, yeah. Before that. Okay. So here's the thing is that one of these journalists, Chris Hewitt from Empire, he said he loved the movie.

And then one of the things he said in his email, he said, I love the fact you used that R.E.M. song. That's fantastic. That's one of my favorite R.E.M. songs. Whoa. And as soon as he said it, it started to nag at me. I was thinking, hmm. Right.

I had to clear it. Very late in the day, Steve Price had already turned a piece of music to go with that bit. And what did it sound like? It was definitely in the style. Like bing, bing, bing. But it's not a difficult one to clear. It's just a matter of having to pay for it probably, right?

It was also... Well, that's all. I mean, you can put anything in anything. It's also the amount of time it takes to clear it as well. I could probably, you know what? If I could find it and you could stick it on the end, I can get Steve Price's version of New Orleans. Oh, I would love that.

Please, please. I'll email him. He'll be happy, and then you can hear at the end what he did instead of that. And then people could put it on their Baby Driver soundtracks as a bonus track. Yes. I don't want to make people think that all of their copies of Baby Driver soundtrack are invalid now. I think they are. Take them back.

So was it expensive because it's REM? Because, I mean, you have a lot of – the Baby Driver soundtracks are so good. I mean, you have a lot of big – you have Beck on there and you have Run the Jewels and Queen and a lot of expensive bands, but I would imagine that REM is up there with, like, you know, they don't license stuff to anyone, right? No, I mean, I think we had an in because I'm friends with Brian Burton at Danger Mouse who released the album on his label, and I'm pretty sure he worked with them or he knows Michael Stapp.

He knows everyone. Oh, nice name drop, by the way. I like the one place you don't have to qualify who Michael is. Right. Well, honestly, I don't know who we're talking about sometimes. I feel like we need to go over band members. Yeah, I think we might need to. As far as you know who is in R.E.M., because sometimes I get confused.

I could tell you their surnames. Michael Stipe and then Mills, Berry, and Buck, right? Yeah, yeah. That sounds familiar, but I don't even know. That is right, isn't it? It is correct, but Scott, why don't you refresh our memories just a little bit. Okay, basically you have Stripe, the gremlin with the stripe. He's the lead singer.

Yes. Gizmo. You have Gizmo. You have the fat Asian guy who sells them. That's right. He's the guitar player. He's the guitar player. And then you have...

Hoyt Axton. Hoyt Axton. Yeah, Hoyt Axton. And then Zach Gilligan is, of course, the fifth member of REM that we all know. And what does Phoebe Cates do? Crying shame she wasn't in the band. Oh. She sings vocals on Shiny Happy People.

Yeah, and she also does Me and Honey. She does a little backup. Isn't it weird that she married Kevin Kline and then just disappeared off the face of the earth? Like, she should be in a movie. She's great. They were in, remember Anniversary Party? Yes. How great that movie was.

I remember I had an anniversary party. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she was there. Yeah, I know. Yeah, she was great. That's why I said it.

Have I told you my Kevin Kline theory? Oh, no. Let us have it. Moustache for funny roles. Funny. Clean shaving for dramatic roles. What about beard, though? Did he go full beard ever?

I feel like he did for Wild Wild West. I'm sure he has done, yes. shaving for dramatic roles. What about beard though? Did he go full beard ever? I feel like he did for Wild Wild West just a couple years ago for that thing with Paul. Maybe that was a dramedy. The Best Man?

No, what was it called? What was that film? With Paul Dano. With Paul Dano. I can't remember what that film's called.

I've seen it though. I've seen it. It's not called The Best Man. You know, everyone calls him Kevin Decline because he passes on

everything what now that is rude you know what that's fucking rude that's fucking rude when he's in he's in the is he in the pink panther one or two he's in one he's in both of them i think but there is that thing is that i think when kevin klein signed on to the pink panther and famously inspector cluso played by steveime but Inspector Clouse has a comedy moustache. Right. And then Kevin Kline also has a moustache so you suddenly have a see. He does? In the Pink Panther? So they're having a moustache off. They have a

moustache off in that film. That's right. I just wanted to say it like you say it by the way. A moustache off. A moustache off. He has one in I'm never comfortable in this country saying moustache. I know. Well there are certain words certain words there's aluminum words. Certain words. There's aluminum. Yes.

Aluminium. Yeah. And that's crazy. That's so nuts. That's nuts. Like, why don't you as— Graham. I don't understand why— To me, it says Graham crackers.

It's spelled Graham. Graham. I don't know why England— And the same kind of like, oh, Kansas. I like the way Graham is spoken in. Well, that's true because— It's my son's name. What? Are you comfortable saying that? No, I'm just kidding. That it's my son's name. What? Are you comfortable saying that?

No, I'm just kidding. That's not my son's name. Okay, what is his son's name? It's Graham, but no one says it like that. Usually they say Graham. Graham. But I don't understand why England as a country doesn't say like, okay, let's cut the shit. We're going to just say aluminum from now on, and we're going to drive on the other side of the road.

Like, honestly, like, you go to England, it's one of the only countries in the world, and it's cool and all. Like, oh, we drive on the left. Yeah, but that's what you go to England for. You do? Yeah. But look, now every single corner in England has that look right or whatever it is. You know, like they had basically how many people were dying a year in England? It had to be in the hundreds of thousands getting run over by cars driving on the wrong side of the road.

Hundreds of thousands. Come on. You look throughout. That is the standard thing that people say. When you're in the UK and you talk about being in the States, literally the first question is, is it funny driving on the wrong side of the road? Is it funny? You guys are one of the only countries in the world that does it.

So much so you have to paint every corner. It drives me nuts. Let's talk about what do you think. This is the Kevin Kline podcast. What do you think about Kevin Kline? Now, what do you think makes for good music in movies? and what do you think makes for good movies in films? And what is the difference as far as you're concerned?

Music in films, I mean, it's interesting. Sometimes I think, you know, if songs have very specific lyrics, unless it's actually completely dead on. Like, what do you think about when they use sabotage in Star Trek you know they used it in

two different two different Star Trek movies at this point what do you think about that when they're like listen all y'all it's a sabotage

and then they're blowing up space things it's kind of like oh I used it in two Star Trek movies yeah they used it in the last one oh really

I didn't see that given that my good friend Simon Pegg co-wrote that film I probably can't tell you. What you actually think. Okay, so you think it's... Well, are they anything with sabotage?

I like the first one. I like the idea of it, but I was spinning to think, wait, is this Captain Kirk's grandparents' music? I didn't mind it in the first one. I was kind of like, because here's another theory I have. Anytime you see a period piece movie, everyone is listening to a song from that particular year. No one does that. When you're at home, you're listening to stuff from 20 years ago.

You know, like I wish I could see a movie in the 70s, you know, like a Goodfellas type movie. And people are listening to stuff, you know, from the 50s or whatever because it just drives me crazy everyone is like listening to something from that particular month sometimes I know what you mean although I found with there was a I, Tonya recently had lots of sort of had that where all the music was from the 70s and I found myself wishing that there

were more I said oh if this movie had like all Richard Marks and like new kids on the block I thought the music was just a little too cool. It's an impression of Scorsese as well. It stands up to your premise that they would be listening to 70s stuff. That's true.

We had that in The World's End. I always used to find it funny when I used to go back to my local pubs that they used to be playing like hits from 20 years ago. Right, like all Oasis Britpop stuff? Yeah, so I thought in the movie that would be actually dead on is that you would go into a pub and they'd still be playing the, you know, hits of like 98, you know, in the pub.

Wait, to go back to the first Star Trek movie, is he actually listening to it on his headphones? I think so. He's listening to it while he's driving a car. I like it in the first Star Trek movie because he's like he's just listening to a song and it's like yeah okay a dude from the hundreds of years in the future is listening it's like listening to you know brahms as i do in my car so in the star trek universe they are they are still on earth in the first movie they're in the beastie boys universe right there is it's

in the beastie boys universe but he's he's in the Beastie Boys universe. But he's listening to music. Does it say what the year is? Is it 21 something? Well, yeah. It's like Star Day 21 or 22. So it's 100 years in the future. They're still listening to the Beastie Boys. I didn't mind that.

But in the second one, what I guess I mind is that. Intergalactic cinematic universe. Yeah. Back to your point, they're using it while they're blowing up stuff. Like in the first one, it's just like, what do they call that where it's the term where you're listening to something in the music? Diegetic. Diegetic. So in the first film, it's diegetic.

It is in the third film as well, but they're using it while they blow up stuff. And the lyrics, back to your original point, are, point are hey sabotage and they're blowing up stuff it's a little too on the nose for me but what was your point about uh songs have lyrics and they're hard to use in in movies well i was thinking about this uh i want but i was you know being um i'm in the process of doing a documentary about sparks yes we've talked about that it's very exciting and one of the things i noticed is that there that their songs aren't in a lot of films. And then I realized that it's because the lyrics sometimes are incredibly specific. Also when they're like very fast lyrics of da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

You know, it's hard to use in a film. Yeah. And so usually I think you can use – in Baby Driver, I went towards a lot of songs that were very dynamic in their structure. Let's play one, by the way. Oh, there you go. See, this is a perfect example. This is a song that has like a two and a half minute build up.

Yeah. It's great. I mean, this song literally made me think of the scene. Yes. So this is the John Spencer blues explosion, Bell Bottoms, which is you heard this and then started imagining the scene that starts the movie. Yeah. And that's why you wanted to make the movie. You wanted to make a movie sort of all based on that,

where every scene was sort of like a music video in a way. Like he has scored this job to a particular. Yeah, it's like every moment is that perfect moment where your life aligns with what you're listening to. So that's interesting. Let's go through some of the tracks on this because it's interesting when you say that, I guess I didn't really think about it

in terms of like a lot of these songs have long instrumental stretches. Yeah, like... Famous intro. Oh, this is great too. Like Brighton Rock, the Queen song has like a sort of famously long guitar solo. Right, right.

You know. We have Egyptian Reggae by Jonathan Richman. It's just an instrumental, yeah. Fantastic. And then we have Smokey Joe's La La. Oh, this was great. Is that code for pussy? I think all jazz songs are code for pussy.

Listen to any jazz song, they're talking about pussy. We also have... Cantaloupe. Okay, the Beach Boys, Let's Go Away for a while. Cantaloupe. Yeah, another instrumental. Yeah. We have Carla Thomas, B-A-B-Y, of course.

This is more on the nose. This is more on the nose. Yeah. She's talking about the song because it's about his name. So were all of these kind of written into the script? Like they came from you? All of these ones that you've currently like sort of like shuffled through were all in the script.

So do you even have a... Actually, apart from Smokey Joe's La La, which was a last minute replacement. Really? And you don't want to say where the original is because... No, it was... You know, it was the one song that during the edit, as I was editing it, we had a chance to do some reshoots,

and I seized the opportunity to change part of a scene because I'd got sick of the song. Really? Because if you're making a film, you better love those songs because you have to listen to them a thousand times. And before Smokey Joe's La La, it was Nut Rocker by B-Bumble and the Stingers, which is a great song. I don't know that one. Oh, you will when La La it was Nut Rocker by Bee Bumble and the Stingers which is a great song.

I don't know that one. Oh you will when you hear it. Nut Rocker? Nut Rocker by Bee Bumble and the Stingers.

Like nut as in like balls? Yeah I mean that one is not about pussy. Okay. Nut Rocker is the opposite.

Oh okay this is a great scene in the film of course. Oh yes. This is the Do you use a Hey, this is a great scene in the film, of course. Oh, yes. This is the... Do you use a music supervisor at all? I mean, do you need one?

I mean, I pick the songs. We had an amazing supervisor, Kirsten Lane, who cleared all the songs. Okay, right. I came up with all of the songs. And how did you come up with them? Were you just like shuffling through your music and going, oh, that would be cool? Or did you have certain ones in your mind that you just like shuffling through your music and going, oh, that would be cool?

Or did you have certain ones in your mind that you were like, I've always wanted to use that? I had like about. This is Nut Rocker, by the way. Oh, you know this one. I think this is a number one in the U.S. as well. Really? Yeah, in like 1961.

Oh, okay. I wasn't alive, so I don't think I was cognizant of it. Oh, yeah. I like this part of it, the Nutcracker. Oh, is that what it is? Nutrocker? Nutcracker? Got it.

Oh, yeah. See, I quite like it again now. Maybe it'll be baby cracker. You've come back around on it. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Apparently recorded in one take.

Wow. And then like a number one instrumental single. So did you have things in mind or were you? I had about ten of them worked out before I started writing. And then when I would, so the big action set pieces, I knew what song they would be. So I had, and I even had broken down the songs with a music editist. Ten years ago, like Steve Price, who now is an Oscar winning composer. For what?

Gravity. He won the Oscar for Gravity. Gravity. And he also did the score for The World's End, and he did some of the score on Baby Driver. I thought that movie was weird because it's like Gravity, and then I go see it going, oh, cool, everyone's going to be tethered to the ground. No, there is like a lack of gravity.

It's crazy. It's like, call it Lack of Gravity. It doesn't make any sense. It's too long of a title. Yeah. So then call it Lack of Gravity. It doesn't make any sense. I don't know. It's too long of a title. Yeah. So then call it Lack of. Yeah, but then they wouldn't know what you're talking about. That's probably true. So he, sorry, what was your point?

Oh, yeah, I did. I had like 10 of them worked out, and then there were times when I'd get to a scene and I didn't have a song worked out. So I would sit there and find the song. Just shuffle through stuff? I would even like, a full rain man, I would like put my

iTunes in like duration order and I would sort of And you knew like how long the scene was supposed to be. I was sort of thinking, oh this scene's probably going to be two and a half minutes long. Let's try and find a song that's in the right vein that's this long. Wow. As you're, wait, sorry. As I'm writing. Oh, as you're writing it. You know, and then a song that's in the right vein that's this long. Wow. Wait, sorry. As I'm writing.

Oh, as you're writing it. You know, and then you'd land upon that Beach Boys instrumental and go, oh, this is perfect. What about in Shaun of the Dead

for Don't Stop Me Now? Did you shoot that with that song? Yeah, we had to. But we did have like, at the point we had that worked out, that was our A choice.

And we had to go into the, we had to go into the shoot with a B option because we were still clearing the Queen song. It's like B-movie. Jerry Seinfeld's B-movie. Yes. The B-movie does exactly what it says on the tin. That's true. It is a B movie That's what I like This is what I like, just be clear

Like Baby Driver It was, I mean it was good Technically he's 21 Technically his name is Baby You just squeeze through on a technicality But god damn it if I didn't go into that film You would rather it be called Driver Called Baby No, I would rather the movie was different

and it was about a baby literally driving around. Like Baby's Day Out. Yes, or Boss Baby. Like, hey, I'm such a boss, I can take a day off. Baby Geniuses? Yeah, or Baby Jesus. Baby Geniuses 2. But wait, sorry, what was the B song for that song?

Oh, the B song for Queen in Shaun of the Dead was Rasputin by Boney M. I don't know that one. Oh, believe me, you're about to enter into a world of the greatest lyrics ever. Boney M? It'll look that up. Boney M, a disco song about Rasputin. I mean, one of the reasons we didn't use it was because it had more, you know, people knew it better in Europe than they might over here.

Right. This is Tequila by the Button Down Brass. We're just scrolling through songs on the Baby Driver soundtrack. In your opinion, Edgar, what makes a good soundtrack? Because we're talking about records here, and you've put out two great ones with the two Baby Driver

soundtracks, and I don't have your other soundtracks, so I cannot comment on those. But what makes a good soundtrack for you? Do you buy a lot of soundtracks? I do't have your other soundtracks so I cannot comment on those but what makes a good soundtrack for you like do you listen do you buy a lot of soundtracks I do actually and I write I like listening to scores when I um write right I listen I listen to scores when I write because it's hard to listen to lyrics when you are writing dialogue have you ever wanted a disco song about Rasputin uh yeah oh yes here we. Here we go. Boney M. Famously, Boney M were Milli Vanilli before that

time with the same manager and the same scandal. They were not singing the songs. They were all done by session singers and the people actually on TV shows. And they're like beautiful people that are lip syncing. Adam, there's motion at your front door. I want to tell you. You got a text alert on your on your, so that's good? You expected it? No, it's perfect. This is exactly when you're want to tell you. You got a text alert on your... Good.

So that's good? You expected it? No, it's perfect. This is exactly when... You've timed out people coming to your front door at all times? Well, I wanted you to be holding my phone one night. I promised some lyrics. I'm going to kick in in a second. Here we go, here we go, here we go. I could see this in that scene too

it's a history lesson I've never heard this it's cool wait till the chorus get to the chorus come on it's amazing this is the pre-chorus right

yeah Scott's always trying to cut out before the chorus get ready guys get ready here it comes Scott's always trying to cut out before the chorus. Get ready, guys. Get ready. Here it comes. It was a shame how he carried on.

This is from the album The Essential Boney M, which cuts off in the middle of this song? Interesting. They had massive hits in Europe. I think they had massive hits. I just got Adam on the handing him back trick, by the way. That's a staple of this show. So what makes a good soundtrack to you? Because we're going to listen to the Man on the Moon soundtrack here after the break,

and we'll see how that stacks up in terms of soundtracks. So buckle your seatbelts, everybody. We're going to listen to the Man on the Moon soundtrack. So I collect a lot of soundtracks. I'm sometimes more interested in a soundtrack, like a good put-together soundtrack, than I am like a band's album or whatever. What makes a good one to you?

Well, it has to be indicative of the film, and it can be tricky sometimes when you're putting a soundtrack together. Just because the songs are in the film doesn't mean they'll necessarily be on the soundtrack. And with Baby Driver, that was quite a difficult thing to wrangle, which meant that, say, you would have the whole experience of the movie, it became a double album.

Right, and you couldn't even fit all the songs on the double album. No, exactly. You had to do a volume two. Yeah, so a single album would, like, just, and having been in that situation before where you release a soundtrack album, people are like, oh, but where's Blah Blah? But my favorite part of the movie is this

thing. Boogie Nights, same thing. Yeah, that's two volumes. So we had to have a double album and then we later released a second album which had the score and some of the other misadventures, including R.E.M. R.E.M. was relegated to the second volume. Right. And how did the

who's the gentleman who did the score? Stephen Price. Stephen Price. How did he feel about not being represented on the first record? Oh no, he was cool. He was cool. He totally understood. He knew what the movie was and he totally understood that it was like songs. Sometimes in a lot of like mid-90s

soundtrack you would, they would put all the pop songs on the record and then they would put one instrumental instrumental from the score. Like a suite. Like Mission Impossible, I remember that. Danny Elfman had maybe two tracks on it towards the very end. I remember the Ghostbusters soundtrack had a couple of...

Was it Elmer Bernstein? Yeah. And then they had a couple of the pop songs. I had that album, The Ghostbusters album. I think when you watch the film again, you suddenly realize that some of the songs are literally like an orderly... Oh, dude, there's that part where...

Like in a radio on the street as they walk by. There's a part where they're scientists and a guy is cleaning up and he has a walkman on and all you can hear is like... Totally. Like five seconds of air supply or something same with Beverly

Hills Cop a bunch of songs like that it is bullshit although I do like in Ghostbusters that song I believe in

magic magic remember that one that was a good one well they actually use it when the yeah that's actually properly foregrounded

but here's the problem with that song though is like ghosts aren't magic and they're playing like I believe in magic no they're like from ghosts aren't magic. And they're playing like, I believe in magic.

No, they're like from another dimension. They're spiritual, but it's not like magic. You don't go like, abracadabra, here's a ghost. Do you think it would have been better if they'd gone, I believe in ghosts. Yes, exactly. This is Focus. Oh, yes. Hocus Pocus, which is the shootout of Baby Driver.

I love this song. This is a. Oh, yes. Hocus Pocus, which is the shootout of Baby Driver. I love this song. It's a great song. It actually made me go by the Focus best of because I didn't really know a lot about Focus. Have you ever watched clips of them playing this? No. Oh, you should. Just YouTube Focus on the old gray whistle test

playing Hocus Pocus. It's amazing. It's the reason that I... Are they like 70s rockers? Yeah, but they're like... He's yodeling, number one. That alone should get you to do it. The combination of yodeling and rock is always good.

But it's just amazing watching them actually do this song live. So when you put together Baby Driver then, how did you put together the record? Did you do it as a playlist in your own itunes or something and say like oh god and you you can only fit so many like 22 minutes per side on the record or whatever and did you how did you make the cuts and go fuck i just i can't put this one on yeah it's exactly that and you have to kind of work it out per like sort of vinyl side and then, you know, also have to present that and then not know necessarily whether all of them are going to make it

onto the album in time. Did you have to do a different track listing for the CD as well? Was it fitting on one CD? I've never seen it. It is on the CD, yeah. So nearly everything is on there. He later released like a Target thing called Killer Tracks from Baby Driver,

where it's a single CD. Oh, man, I've got to go to Target and get that. They made their own selections of how to go that way. They presented it to me, and I was like, cool, whatever. Yeah, get it in Target. Get our shit in Target. I don't care. I don't give a shit what's on it.

I wanted those Target listeners. There's a lot of 90s soundtrack albums. Remember, they don't really. I don't give a shit what's on it. I wanted those Target listeners. There's a lot of 90s soundtrack albums. Remember, they don't really do them anymore with the Inspired By albums. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dick Tracy. Was Dick Tracy the beginning of that? Well, Dick Tracy at least had the Madonna.

Batman was. Batman. Which, of course, is mentioned in Shaun of the Dead and trashed. Dick Tracy and Batman, I have to say, though, actually has songs in it. There are like Spider-Man 3 or maybe Spider-Man 1 where not a single song is on it. It's purely just a product of like, okay, we can get all these bands, Soundgarden and all these people. None of the songs are in it. It's all just a score movie, and they just go inspired by.

And then there's like a – who was it that did a big Spider-Man song and it was, it may have been over the end credits, but I don't think so. What's that band? Who did a Spider-Man song? Nickelback, right? Nickelback.

They had that huge song in Spider-Man. Hero. Something like Hero. Hero. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was it. Was that in the movie? I feel like that was maybe the only song

that was actually in the movie. Maybe it's on the end credits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was that in the movie I feel like that was maybe the only song that was actually maybe it's on the end credits yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's by the way and you'll know this

as a filmmaker what song can be eligible for the Academy Awards is it only the first song you use in the credits I think it can only

be an original song that's eligible right yeah it has to be original but I think there's a cut off like people were trying to squeeze Academy Award nominations

into the second or third song, and they were like, no, no, no. Oh, I didn't know about that. It's got to be the first one when you play it after the credits or during the credits. So in terms of a good soundtrack listening, you wanted to evoke the feel of the film. What about dialogue? I know because Baby Driver 2 has dialogue,

doesn't it? Yeah. I think that can work sometimes. I think, you know, Tarantino sort of did it brilliantly. Like, the Reservoir Dogs soundtrack was always

just brilliantly sort of sequenced to go between the songs and little bits of dialogue for like a flavor of it. I think with this one, I decided, like, that's why on the volume two

only has the dialogue and it's all mixed together rather than being sort of, there's little separate bits. But the second one is more of a sense of the kind of the flow of the beat. The second one is everything is mixed together and the songs bleed into one another and it's more like a listening experience. The first one is literally like you're going to own these songs in their pristine conditions, but they're sequenced in the order.

Let's hear a little bit of the second one. This is Robbery Arrival by Stephen Price. This is the scene where he's saying it's us, the music, and the road. It's actually, this is the opening of the movie, but that's dialogue from later on. This is all leading up to... Just us, music, and the road. So we'll hear the transition into the first song song.

Oh, yeah. Stereo helicopter action. The Doppler effect. I loved it. It's weird, though, because for me, it sounded like the helicopter started here and went through over there. So everything bleeding into one another. This is Run the Jewels and Big Boy.

And Danger Mouth. And Danger Mouth, yes. Brian. Friend of Michael's. It's time. Both are really good. You are very good at putting soundtracks together, so I'm glad that you are here because we have one to listen to today.

And we are also going to be talking about, you have brought your favorite REM songs. We are also going to be talking about, you have brought your favorite R.E.M. songs. We are also going to be talking, well, I have one question that fans of this show are going to want me to ask you. We need to take a break, though. When we come back, we're going to get to all of that. We'll be right back with more Are You Talking R.E.M.

Remy, Edgar Wright, coming up. We'll be back. Hang your collar up inside. Hang your dollar. me Edgar Wright coming up we'll be back Adam it's been a while but comedian Michael Ian Black he's a he's a good buddy of ours isn't he I mean I consider him to be a work friend he is finally back here on Earwolf this time with a brand new podcast, and it's called Obscure. Yeah, in Obscure, Michael tackles a great work of literature he's never read, and you probably haven't either.

He's reading one of the most well-respected books ever written, Jude the Obscure. Have you ever read that? No. I don't even know what it is, but it's very well-respected. It sure is no it's they made into a movie a couple of times no thanks i'll see a film all right um he's reading jude the obscure out loud and he's commenting on it as he goes even though he didn't really want to this book has been on his bookshelf for years we We have books like this, don't we?

Like I finally threw out the complete works of Plato. I was like, I bought it when I was 18. You did not. I did. It sat on my shelf for years. I was like, I'm never going to read this. Just threw it out. Same with me with a copy of John Grisham's The Client.

Were you trying to get that part? Oh, man, I'm never. I don't think you're going to get it. Yeah, Renfro got it. If they reboot it, though. Oh, baby. I see you kind of as a client. Could you give me some of your client things?

Like, excuse me, could you send them in? Hey, here's some money down on the – here's some money for your services, please. I'm hired. Perfect. There you go. Really good stuff. Michael is reading Jude the Obscure for you, and he has a lot of thoughts to share along the way. He's a great guy.

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I would fit in the latter, and you would fit in the former, I would imagine. As he—oh, also experts. As he discovers Jude's world and a few things about his own. Is this a terrible idea? Yeah. Probably, but it's a terrible idea he wants to do with you. Subscribe to Obscure now in Stitcher, Apple Podcasts, or wherever the fuck you listen. Welcome back. This is another R.E.M. instrumental you can use in Baby Driver 2.

This is Tricycle, which in my opinion belonged on New Adventures in Hi-Fi. Inexplicably. Adam's still upset with Hi-Fi. Inexplicably. Adam's still upset with me about that. Inexplicably. Welcome back. We're here with Edgar Wright. Working on a documentary for the band Sparks, which is very exciting.

When's that come out? I mean, I haven't started, so not for a while. I mean, I have started. I actually shot them in concert in London, which was fun. Could you just let me know, like, 24 hours beforehand, before it comes out? Just remind me, and I'll go see it? Yes.

Okay, thanks. So there's a question that I have to ask you, Edgar, and fans of this show want me to ask you this. And it has to do with uh your history and identity um but when was the first time you heard of rem the first time i heard of rem was uh i think it was on the radio i remember hearing i think superman was the first heard of them by the way oh heard of them yeah i mean was when i heard them on the radio. I remember hearing, I think Superman was the first. Heard of them, by the way. Oh, heard of them? Yeah.

I mean, it was when I heard them on the radio. Okay. Because in a way, like, back in, like, when I was, you know, so I was, like, 12, like, when Adam came out. So you were, like, you're not a little boy, certainly. Not a big boy. But you're not a big boy. little boy certainly but a big boy but you're not a big boy you're kind of in that in between age where you're like you know i want to be considered an adult but i know i'm not mature enough yet uh you know i want more responsibility and yet i still am a kid and i want to have a good

time you're like in there right it's like pre-teen a turn is that a turn yeah sure yeah i mean you're the pre-est of teens at 12 and this is when Life's Rich Pageant came out around then? Well, I used to listen to most of the music that I knew. I would listen to the radio in the UK. And the interesting thing with the UK is you have national stations. So it's actually quite easy for like— Isn't that like the BBC and everything? It's all government-funded?

Is that what it is? So it is an interesting thing that unlike here where bands could break in different states and stuff, because you have a national radio station. You have competition, and that's what the U.S. is all about. You know, free markets. Oh, yeah, capitalism, man. So you mean this like rather than different radio stations in different areas, it's just all radio stations are for the whole country.

With BBC, I mean, at the time, there's lots of different stations now, but at the time there's only one. But at the time it was, like, basically everything was PBS or NPR. Is that pretty much what it was? Like, the government decides. There were three BBC stations or something? At the time, when I was growing up there were like BBC 1 and 2 are we talking TV or radio now?

Either. Let's do radio. It was like radio, BBC Radio 1, 2, 3 and 4. And like one was like the popular stuff, two was like old people's music, three was like classical and four was like documentaries and dramas and things. So if you wanted to hear something

left of center. It would be late night on Radio 1. And then sometimes when they're playing the usual programming, some DJs would have their playlist. Mandated by the government or mandated by the station? Like an A, B, and C list of the playlist of tracks. Would the queen pick these songs? She was constantly DJing. But you would get, usually

you would get the DJs themselves would have one play per show. That was their taste. Their one. That's funny. DJs here don't even get that anymore. No. So I think then, I remember listening to the radio and hearing like Superman by R.A.M. and thinking, what is that?

You didn't even know what Superman was. That's like an American thing. Capitalism. You'd seen a Superman? Yes. Okay. You'd seen one Superman. I'd seen Superman III exclusively.

Okay, good. I actually quite like Superman III. But you had MTV there then? No, no MTV. Really? Until later. I think maybe MTV and VH1 didn't come around properly until, I want to say, the late 80s. But there used to be this thing that I used to, when I was a preteen, going into being a teenager,

there was this show called The Chart Show, which was on, not on the BBC, but on ITV. And it was on a Saturday morning. And it was just a solid hour of videos on Saturday morning. morning and it was just a solid hour of videos on Saturday morning. And then they'd have the main pop charts and then they'd alternate kind of some other charts. And like, so every like fourth week you'd get the indie chart. And I was a sort of 12 to 14. Seeing this like indie chart, it would start to really like break my brain because it's stuff that I would like never hear anywhere else. And I wasn't, I didn't have like a cool record store in my hometown. What was your hometown by the way?

Wells in Somerset, which had a record store but not a cool record store. Right, right. There wasn't like an alt. It was like McDonald's. Yes. Like hamburgers. I remember vividly that I would watch the chart show and then I would see, that is where you'd see like videos for Smiths, The Pixies, The Sugar Cubes, the band that Bjork was in before, which was Bjork.

And I remember – Which was basically like listening to a great Bjork song while a guy shouts over it. That's what The Sugar Cubes is. I know exactly that one that you mean. But then there's also Birthday by The Sugar Cubes, which is like classic Bjork catawalling. Sugar Cubes were awesome. Yeah. But anyway, but like also that REM was another one that like sort of, you know, so it's the end of the world as we know it.

You know, seeing the video for that. So I only, I knew them in terms of I liked them, but it wasn't like I didn't really buy any music magazines. I didn't, the NME would have been the thing that. Was Q around then? No, not quite. Actually, no, maybe it was just coming in. But I didn't used to buy Q, and I didn't buy NME until later. So my experience of REM was literally on music alone,

and that they were American, and that I liked it. So you heard Superman once. You don't even know if you're ever going to hear it again. Were you paying attention so much to new stuff that you were like trying to jot down who i remember for a while i was watching mtv you know if they would ever do an alternative uh show and i would like be waiting for the the track information when it would come up and i could like hurriedly jot it down. Or, you know, the classic thing of recording things off the radio, being there with a cassette player ready to go to record it.

I would do that with Jake Isle's band Freeze Frame, by the way, just trying to get the cleanest. The thing about Freeze Frame was good was it started with the lyrics with the guy going, Freeze Frame! So the DJ couldn't talk over it. But I do remember Centerfold. I just wanted the cleanest recording of Centerfold that I could get. And it would start, and then a DJ would always talk over it like,

Jake Ellsman, here was Centerfold. And I'd go, God damn it. I would stop the tape, wait another hour, 90 minutes for them to play it again. And finally they played it like KFI here played it where it was just like, KFI, and I started record right then and got the entire thing. I was so happy. Ah. I had that on.

My brother had that on vinyl. I remember we used to buy quite a lot of records, but I remember we went to the record shop, and my brother beat me to centerfold. I wanted to get centerfold, and he got it first. It was a race. And then I got The Lion Sleeps Tonight by Typefit, which is not quite as cool as centerfold.

That's good. We've talked about The Lion Sleeps Tonight because R.E.M. did a cover of it. Ah, what's that on? That is the B-side of The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonight, which is based upon that record. Centerfold. I think we talked about Centerfold, too. Like, that album is so great.

I don't think we talked about it. Nope. No, I think we did, like, on the U2 show. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, J. Giles band. Yeah, great stuff. Great band. Great stuff. Their next No, I think we did like on the YouTube show. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, J-Gal's band. Yeah, great stuff. Great band. Great stuff.

Their next record, When Peter Wolfe Left, Concealed Weapons. Do you know that video? That's the one where basically it's all about boobs. And the video. Well, I got to get to know it. The video is literally like guys. Very horny band, J-Gal. Very horny band.

Spitter fold and boobs basically a guy standing there and a woman with pointy like a pointy bra coming up behind them sticking her boobs

in their back and the guy's like holding their hands up as if they're being stuck up and it's like concealed weapons what do you think

about that especially in the era of Me Too I think that would fly really well today. So you are listening to this R.E.M. song. You don't know if you're ever going to hear it again. And then I think after that, then the one I love was a hit.

It was like a top 20 hit in the U.K. Was it top 20? Okay. I think so because I remember that got playlisted a lot, and then also it's the end of the world. We know it. So I think then the first ones I bought also REM

I was thinking about this I'm not sure most of my REM albums I had on tape like I don't think I had a CD of REM until maybe maybe Automatic for the People

I'm not I don't think even that I had on tape mine was Eponymous yours was what was your first CD? Green? Document

Document yeah okay but I thought you had that on tape I did have it on tape so then Eponymous, yours was, what was your first CD? Green? Document. Document, yeah. Okay. But I thought you had that on tape. I did have it on tape. So then. Oh, Green was my first CD.

Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, Green. I had Green. Yeah, it is what you said. I had most of them on tape. Yeah, we had a combination of tapes, and I had half tapes if I would find it used, and then records up until eponymous then I bought everything CD after that. I would also do that thing

where you could get a tape out of a library and then you would copy it. Yes. Or a record out of the library and I would copy that. I wouldn't have the technical know-how how to copy a record. I had the setup for that. I would just go tape to tape and then I would make my own like sort of hand drawn sort of version of like

so I think I had most of them. Oh, man, I used to draw the logos on the side of the tapes. Oh, yeah. I would spend so much time, especially if I was making it for a girl, I would spend so much time writing out the song titles. And they thought that was cool, right? Oh, yeah, they thought it was so cool. And then you get into a kind of mild panic when the song name is too long.

Too long and you're like running out. Running out. It's like, can you put it in parentheses? Do you go down one line? Do you just go ellipsis, dot, dot, dot? Do you have to draw an arrow down to the next line? And then you would buy the tapes that were super heavy. Like that was going to sound way better.

Yeah, like the gold ones. Yeah, yeah. The chrome tapes or whatever. All those scams that they put, like the gold CDs and the chrome tapes and all that stuff that supposedly it sounds great. It's all bullshit. I'm not sure I ever owned an REM on,

I'm not sure if I had any CDs of REM. Really? I must have re-bought like, I must have had automatic for the people on CD, but I think even by then, what was that, 92? Yeah. Automattic, yeah. I don't think I had a CD player by then still.

You didn't have a CD player? No. Really? What's the first CD player that you remember? Very Dickensian existence, Scott. The one as big as me? Go down to the corner shop and buy that CD player. I think I didn't have a CD player until I moved to London, which was maybe in like 94, 95.

Okay. Yeah. So Monster you probably had on CD. You know, well, this might be terrible. No, you can say whatever you want. I think Monster is where I tuned out. That's where you dipped out. It's where I dipped out.

I don't think I owned anyone's after Monster. Michael, if you're listening, I'm sorry. Is that because of Monster, or you just kind of went a different way? I liked the singles from it. I think I just got into different stuff. Well, that also, 95 is that Monster, or 94? 94. I mean, this is pure Britpop.

Oh, yeah. Blur Oasis. Well, Oasis, not so much. But like Blur, Pulp, Supergraph, Suede. What do you think the difference between Blur and Oasis is to you? Because as far as I'm concerned, in England, this is my impression of it. Like the working class likes Oasis and the smart people like Blur. Is that too much of a caricature?

I mean, that's definitely how it's depicted, but I think, you know, it's also a north and south thing. Oh, really? Because Blur are from Manchester and... Oasis is from the north. No, sorry, sorry. Other way around. Oasis are from Manchester and Blur are from Essex.

And so there was definitely like a north-south thing, and that was a big part of the rivalry between them and something that would frequently come up. Is it also part of like Oasis sings these anthemic, by the way, a word we say a lot on this show, sing-along songs which can be sung in football games? I'm sorry. I changed it to football for you. I hope that's okay. I think so.

I was always strictly in the blur camp because I found them a bit more interesting musically, and they could also do more things. I loved them. Weirdly enough, I would say the first Britpop song I heard was Oasis, was Rock and Roll Star. Right. I think Rodney on the Rock played it.

He was the first one out here to play, like, any Britpop and he would i remember he would have this woman calling in from england and she would do the brit pop like sort of report every week you know like whatever singles came out that week and who you who you should be paying attention to um and so the first one i heard was oasis and i just fell in love with it but then i heard blur and was like oh this is like this is more like Kink's stuff that's like sort of smarter as well but I just loved the Oasis because it was my first love. What would your guys favorite

Blur song be would you say? What was my favorite Blur song? My name is Blur and I'm here to say it's a good song. What is my favorite Blur song? That's a tough one. That is a tough one. That is a tough one. What is my favorite Blur song? I mean, I like too many of them.

Well, there's one on the Baby Driver soundtrack, Intermission, which is from Modern Life is Rubbish, which is an instrumental. What's your favorite Blur album? I like, I mean, Parklife is a classic album. It's front to back. And the other really good one is Blur, which is from 1997. Yeah, it's when they start sounding like pavements. Is Parklife the one with Country House on it?

No, that's The Great Escape. That's The Great Escape. That's a great album. It's right there in the title. It sure is. I think the three really great ones are Modern Life is Rubbish, Parklife, and Blur. I've never been able to get into Modern Life is Rubbish as much, I have to say.

I mean, that's one of those ones that like... Is that the first one you heard? No, because they had a top 10 single, like There's No Other Way, which was the first time it was like a top 10 hit. Right. With their debut single, which is quite extraordinary.

Yeah, but that album doesn't really hold up. The album's not so good, no. Yeah, yeah. What about your favorite Oasis song, guys? Man. I love that first record so much. Man. I love that first record so much. Yeah. I like some of the ones from the first record. I like, like, Shaker Maker

and stuff. I really, I And Live Forever. Roll with it. Live Forever's pretty great. I love the B-sides. I don't know. I gotta say Look Back in Anger. Oh, you know what? That one I actually actively do not like. Yeah. Why? Because it's too, like, beatily? It just sort of gets,

I think it was one of those songs that became so ubiquitous and I just, that song drives me slightly bonkers. What about Roll With It? Roll With It. Oh no, I don't like that one either. That was the one where

Blur and Oasis went head to head in the same week. And Blur won though. Blur won. It was Country House versus Oasis. But, I mean, it's Country House versus Roll With It, but to be fair, neither of their best songs.

Yeah. I like Roll With It. Country House is not one of Blur's best. But that's when Oasis broke in America and got huge here, but Blur kind of never did, right? But Blur also kept on. I think the thing that Blur did that was smart is that they started diversifying their sound yeah and in fact even their last time

that they brought out this is roll with it yeah oh this is yeah you don't like it I love this people would there was a band you know the band status quo yeah so people would call them people who would like denigrate Oasis would call them quo aces oh because they... Because this sounds like status quo. Oh, interesting. So there were actually t-shirts that would say Quo-Oasis.

I like Some Might Say. That fans would wear to antagonize Oasis. Let's hear Some Might Say. This is a good one. Yeah, that last Blur record with that 12-minute... That's probably my favorite Blur song is that big, long... What is that song called? Are you talking about your penis?

Yeah. Not the last Blur record, but the last one in the 90s. What was that song called? Not the one that Fatboy Slim... Tender? Oh, Tender is great. That's from... I want to say that's from 13.

That's from 13, yeah. There's two albums after that. I would say Tender is great. That's from, I want to say that's from 13. That's from 13, yeah. There's two albums after that. I would say Tender, first of all, Tender is one of the only Blur songs that Cool Up likes. She loves that song and does not like Blur. That's a classic song. I said first of all, but that's all I have. The recent Blur album, The Magic Whip,

the one they brought out like three years ago, is really good. Yeah, yeah. We both were at that show, were we not? I know, that's amazing. Yes, good show. Hollywood Bowl. I feel like that would work. Really good. Yeah, yeah. We both were at that show, were we not? I know, that's amazing. Yes, good show. Hollywood Bumble. All right, let's get to the Man on the Moon soundtrack.

It really feels like you're holding off from talking about this. Have you listened to it? I mean, I saw the movie. I've never listened to the album in isolation. Well, Scott and I were talking, and he was like, should we do Man on the Moon soundtrack as an album? And we both said, yeah. Yeah, of course.

And then today I sat down and listened to it. We both listened to it over the last couple of days. Oh, boy. This is not an album. Okay, let's do some stats on it before we get to it. November 23, 1999 is when it comes out, which was probably a week before the movie came out. So the fall, almost winter of 99. Where are we in 1999?

Adam, what are you doing in your life? That's an interesting. Why don't you go first so I can try and think of it. Okay, so Kulop and I started dating in May of that year. Yes. And the one thing that I can kind of remember from this time period is we went to the Emmys about a month before my first nomination. Oh. And we –

Wow. So you were nominated for an Emmy in the 20th century. I was, strangely enough, and three in the 21st. Yeah. But so we went to the Emmys and it was like – Murphy Brown. Yes, of course. You guys know I play Murphy Brown.

Yeah. By the way, when do we get Murphy White? Yeah, really. You know, come on, guys. So no, I had been nominated and it was – I have to say as a person dating someone, it was a very, like, cool sort of like, hey, let's go to the Emmys. Sure. And Kulop went and got a dress made for her. Wow.

And it was a very, like, we took pictures. It was a very exciting time, and that was about a month before this. And that's all I really remember from that time period. I don't even know what I was working on at the time. Adam? I was, I think I was still doing some Party of Five episodes. Hoping they retitle it Party of Six to incorporate your character. That's right.

And around that time, REM came and did Party of Five. I think I talked about this on a previous episode. What song did they do? Or they just acted in it. They did At My Most Beautiful. And I was doing a recurring role on Party of Five, and I heard on the internet that REM was going to come do Party of Five. So I freaked out, called the line producer myself, someone I did not know, just to make

sure I could come the day REM. Even if you weren't shooting that day, like you want to be there. And they were like, sure. Yeah, who gives a shit? You fucking weirdo. Yeah. So they came and played a, they played the, shot the scene where they played At My Most Beautiful a bunch of times.

This is, by the way, how desperate they are for a hit. Well, that was the thing. As a fan at the time, I was so excited because I was going to get to be there and stuff. But then also in the back of my head

thinking, wait, R.E.M.'s going to come be on Party of Five? Mm-hmm. Although Party of Five was considered... It was a big show. It was a big show at the time.

But at the same time, I was... You're like... Yeah, but it was actually fine. They did the song. Are we playing this show that I can just call the line producer and ask if I could show up that day? But then after they shot the scene,

they came out and played a full... Why are you shouting? Am I shouting? They played a full show. You're really playing to the back of the house. They played for like an hour and a half for the crew and whoever was around. It was Nev Campbell, me, and one other person. Do you remember, did they play like a typical REM show or new songs?

Yeah, they were about to go to Europe or something, so they played. It was like a mix of stuff. It was cool. And were you standing next to Neve Campbell watching them play and you turned to her and said, I called the line producer to make sure I could come. Yep. I do remember at the beginning because it was at what used to be the Palace and is now the – Remember that place?

Yeah. No, I used to go to the Palace all the time. It's called the... It was called the Avalon for a while. Avalon, yeah. So everyone who's getting there, it was about an hour before they started playing, everyone was kind of wandering in.

We know how people go to things. Yeah, the whole front in front of the stage was empty because people were just hanging out in the back. And I went and stood right up at the front because I didn't want to lose the spot. You didn't want to lose the spot, great. people were just hanging out in the back and i went and stood right up at the front because i didn't want to you didn't want to lose the spot great and naomi like walked over from where everyone was she's like what are you doing you fucking weirdo because i was by myself just standing there and she goes what are you doing by the way this is a work environment for you

that you're acting like a weirdo creep it's really embarrassing and and i was like i just don't want to i want to be able to just be here in the very front for when REM comes out. How did she marry you? I don't know. I don't know. So did you go backwards or did you – were you like, no, I'm staying? I think I stayed. But eventually people started coming.

And then the show started and it was like crowded up there. So I was glad I did it. So you were glad. Yeah. Was it a good show? It was very, very embarrassing in retrospect. Well, all of life is. I mean, really, when we tell these stories, it's all

embarrassing. I would say everything up to yesterday for me would be, if I told any story about my life, I would be embarrassed by it. Yeah, there's like three things yesterday that were super embarrassing. Yeah, exactly. What month of the year is this? November 23, 1999. You've moved to London in 94-ish, 5-ish.

Finkel? Space had just been on TV. Oh, wow. It just came out September 1999. Really? So this is an exciting time for you. I was 25, and Space, the first season, had started in September.

And I want to say, I'd been in L.A. that summer, actually. I went on holiday after I finished doing Space before I came out and came to L.A. because I specifically remember being in L.A. during the opening weekend of The Sixth Sense. And I saw it at the Beverly Connection. So I remember, oh, obviously I was in L.A. August 1999, for sure. Oh, my God, the Beverly Connection. I used to go see movies there. Cool Up and I saw, we didn, my God. The Beverly Connection. Cool. I used to go see movies there. Cool Up and I saw this.

We didn't see it at the Beverly Connection. We saw it at, where did we see it? Oh, I think we must have seen it in Burbank. But we saw that movie together, and this is pre her telling me she hates scary movies. So I would say, hey, let's go see The Sixth Sense. And she'd be like, okay, because she just wanted to go out. And then sitting there tortured by a scary movie until about a year

into our relationship she said I hate scary movies we I mean one of our first times we hung out was seeing Blade

and she was like terrified the entire time so she hates it now so now it's so much easier I just like we saw Hereditary last week Edgar

and she's like what are you going to see tonight I said you don't want to see it she goes thank you she wouldn't have enjoyed that no she would not have enjoyed that Edgar, and she's like, what are you going to see tonight? I said, you don't want to see it. She goes, thank you. She wouldn't have enjoyed that. No, she would not have enjoyed that. Did you guys guess the Sixth Sense twist when you first saw it? I did not.

I did. I did too. I didn't. I saw it opening weekend, and I did not know it was coming, and I thought it was fantastic. By the way, Haley Joel Osment, big fan of this show, he sent me some pictures of him listening to it the other day. He sent me two pictures, him listening to document and then him reading the Bible.

Did we talk about the Bible or something? I don't know. I think so because they were both together in one text message. That's awesome. It was pretty funny. Okay. So you – space came out. Do you remember going to see the Man on the Moon, Edgar?

Yeah, I don't think The Man on the Moon came out in the UK until 2000. Really? Because back in those days, especially with a movie like this, an awards-y movie. It would take a while. It was also of niche appeal in the UK because people in the UK don't really know who Andy Kaufman is. Did they know who Jim Carrey was? Yes, they knew who Jim Carrey was. All right, so you're not completely fucking stupid.

No, but definitely Andy Kaufman're not completely fucking stupid. No. But definitely, Andy Kaufman was not a thing in the UK. Right. Only like sort of real like comedy nerds. Did you ever watch Taxi? Was that something? Yes, Taxi was a thing. Okay. And in fact, actually, I remember some like fellow, some comedians would be obsessed with

him. I remember Matt Lucas and Graham Linehan would be obsessed with Andy Kaufman great comedians and would have that what's that special that he it was like some variety special

that he did yeah yeah Cindy Williams in it like I mean I definitely saw that was he up up high on the the big tall thing

the talk show desk yeah yeah yeah it was fantastic so I'd seen that okay but I think I saw that in 2000 okay

so that said The Great Beyond yes was a massive hit in the UK. I think it's the R.E.M.'s highest charting single in the UK. It might be. It is. It's their biggest hit. And it was not a hit at all over here.

Although, when we get to it, we'll talk a little bit more about it. Let's get to the soundtrack. This soundtrack, by the way, is only 37 minutes. It's just shy of 37 minutes. Just shy of 37 minutes, which even for a sound, I mean, soundtracks used to be like the Ghostbusters soundtrack we mentioned is probably under 40 minutes.

But for 1999, pretty skimpy. I'm surprised. Who plays young Andy Kaufman in the very first scene? I have no idea. Who? Michael Cera. Really? I didn't know that. Really? I just watched it today. Yeah. You watched the movie? I watched like the first

45 minutes today. Isn't there that thing where he's jumping on the bed? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Michael Cera. Were you going back and forth from that in City Slickers? That's right. Okay. The weird thing is you would think for a period movie like this there would be way more music.

Yeah, okay. Well, let's start it. This is the first song. This is the – by the way, the first single from the record. This is the Mighty Mouse theme by the Sandpipers. And now as a special treat on our first show, musical guest Andy Kaufman. Mr. Trouble never hangs around. Just to be clear, R.E.M. didn't do this. This is not R.E.M. This is the Sandpipers.

So this is basically a recreation of his famous thing from the first episode of SNL. I think that was Richard Belzer introducing himself when it was actually George Carlin in the original. Because Richard Belzer was the George Carlin of

1999, I think. Wasn't George Carlin the George Carlin of 1999? Yes, he was. I think he was playing Detective M't George Carlin the George Carlin of 1999? Yes, he was. I think he was playing Detective Munch. I once saw him in Vegas around 1999. Did you? How was he? He was great.

I don't know whether this is... Well, this is the Sandpipers either way. Sure is. Let's go to track two. This is the REM. This is the aforementioned The Great Beyond this was a big hit in England and in my opinion

when I heard it it's like the last great REM single as far as I knew this is like the last one that I heard this is The Great Beyond I've watched the stars fall silent from your eyes All the sights that I have seen

I can't believe that I believed I wish that you could see There's a new planet in the solar system There is nothing up my sleeve I'm pushing an elephant up the stairs I'm tossing up punchlines that were never there Over my shoulder a piano falls Crashing to the ground.

In all this talk of fun. So, Adam, as the R.E.M. superfan, you must be excited when this record comes out. Yeah. What did you think of the single? I liked it. It's never been a favorite of mine really yeah i i do you get scared when he talks about the piano falling and yeah it's frightening it is um i don't know it's beyond catchy and it deserves to be a hit it's so so, so catchy. Things don't deserve anything. Like, when you really figure that out about life,

about how there's no justice and terrible things happen for no reason, like, I think you'll be happier. No, you're right. But for the time being, I'm just going to apply justice to inanimate objects. Okay. I mean, this isn't an inanimate object. These are literally just vibrations that exist in the air. I'm just thinking about the instruments that create this. All right.

I don't know why we're fighting. Yeah. I think it's catchy and should be a hit, but it was never one of my favorites. I think it's maybe because it's like a little more produced than my favorite R.E.M. stuff. There's a lot of – I noticed when we've played – oh, here's the strings, by the way. These sound great. When we played – when it started, I was like, this is a very full sound.

I liked it when it came out. I had not been continuing on the R.E.M. journey with them in quite a number of years, but when I heard this, I was like, oh, wow, this is actually... And this song I put on mixtapes and stuff, so this was a song that I really liked. I liked it live more than –

Anyway, what about you? Edgar, what do you think? Yeah, I liked it. I think a similar thing is I'd – like I said, I hadn't bought one of the albums that's Monster, so I was only really following – That's too frightening. The single.

Save the scary one. Oh, Monster's the scary one. Yeah, cut. Please don't say that monster please don't say that please don't say that I I I dropped out

around the time of the scary one thank you the Scottish play um and I'll say that all day long Macbeth

Macbeth Macbeth no I don't give a oh god a piano fell on Adam um but I like this.

I remember that it had a good video. Isn't the video like stipe kind of with various like sort of physical gags going on around here? Yes, and also by the way, Jim Carrey did not appear in the video and he says in that documentary that that was his biggest regret about the experience

but by the time they filmed the video he never wanted to portray Andy Kaufman again. He was out of it at that point and was just like, I can't do this anymore. You know, in that actor-y way where he's like, I can't be this person anymore. I can't inhabit this person's skin anymore

or something like that. But I will say that it made me buy this record and I really... You bought this album back then? Yeah, I bought this. Whoa, like you didn't buy Up or Accelerate, but you bought this. I like soundtracks too, yeah. All right, let's go to the next track. Let's try to breeze through these.

This is Exile, Kiss You All Over. It's kind of a big day. Wow, they put dialogue on everything They're putting dialogue over And this is the only Andy comes here almost every week This is my only copy of this great song And it has all this terrible dialogue over it Sometimes he's Tony and he wears a tux

Can I ask a dumb question? Yeah Did R.E.M. do all this music as well? This is by the band Exile But they did the score, yes Oh, right, right Oh, this is a different song by them Yeah, this is a track band Exile, but they did the score. Oh, right, right. Oh, this is a different song by them.

Yeah, this is a track from the 70s. But this can't be the entire score. No, it can't. That's the thing. Like, if R.E.M.'s doing the score, put out a whole score record. But they only give, like, what, four tracks or something like that? And they're, like, a minute and a half long. Yeah, it's fucking, this is the biggest ripoff album. Also, there's never, no one is ever on the moon in this record.

Not one person goes on to a moon. I have to say about The Great Beyond, I would imagine the writing assignment of that is very difficult. Of like, hey, write another song about Andy Kaufman. Yeah. You know? It is shitty that they were not nominated for a Golden Globe or an Oscar for...

Just Man on the Moon. No, for Great Beyond. They weren't? No, but I think they should have been nominated for Man on the Moon. This is another point. Like, every time songs get nominated for Oscars, Yes.

right? It's always, like, Coldplay's shittiest song. Like, the one they wrote, or U2's shittiest song, the one they wrote for a film, right? It's not a single. Or Sam Smithiest song. Or U2's shittiest song. The one they wrote for a film, right? It's not a single. Or Sam Smith's one of the worst Bond themes. Yeah. You know what I mean? Which wins an Oscar. And they win the Oscar. Let's just

give the Oscar to the best song that year. I don't care if it's in a movie. But that song was from like seven years before the movie. But you know what I mean? Give it to Kanye West Better, Faster, Stronger that year. You know what I mean? That's give it to Kanye West, you know, Better, Faster, Stronger that year. You know what I mean?

Like, that's the song of the summer. Just give it, give the Oscar to that. I don't care if it's in a movie or not. Sure. You're saying last year the Oscar should have gone

to Despacito. Yes. Give it to Despacito instead of whatever the fuck one. An Academy Award. No, like the song from Coco won. Yeah.

I guarantee you we're going to be singing Despacito for decades longer than we're singing the song from Coco. Anyway anyway this song's the jam do you like this song did you know it or do you know i don't know this one this is a great i i remember it from growing up from the 70s this is a really good one all right let's go to the next track this is the you would think that oh yeah well i was gonna i was just about to say is the theme from taxi on here that, oh, yeah. I was just about to say, is the theme from Taxi on here? Theme from Taxi, yes.

But this is great. Oh, yeah. This is amazing. One of the most melancholic themes of any television show. Like, you would think that it's like, hey, we got this really funny comedy show. Turn in your theme song. Yeah. You think it would be like, da-na-da-da-da-na-da-da-da-da-da-da-taxi.

Instead, it's like this. These opening credits were great, too. This is classic 5 a.m. music. Puts you in the world of just, like, driving around trying to pick people up. It's great. Which is something I do on the weekends. But it also has dialogue at the end of it.

On the taxi theme? Yeah. Oh. How can you talk over the taxi theme? They did it. It's taxi theme? Yeah. Oh. How can you talk over the taxi theme? They did it. It's called Angela. Oh. Which I've always wondered, was who's the boss, the character Angela, named

Angela because of this song? No, this song is written about that character. It is? Yeah. Angela. Angela. Angela. Angela. You want to try? Who am I doing an impression of? Tony Danza saying Angela. Angela. That. You want to try? Who am I doing an impression of? Tony Danza saying Angela.

Angela. That's pretty good, right? That's better than either of ours. The best one. I would like to use a phone. Yeah, here's the dialogue. Not on the lots. How about a bathroom?

I may have shit in my pants. That's Jim Carrey doing Tony Clifton. All right, let's go to the next track. This is... I like the Tony Clifton scenes in this movie a lot. Yeah. This is the first piece of score. This is R.E.M.

wrote this. This is R.E.M.? It's an orchestra playing it, but R.E.M. wrote it. It's called Tony Thrown Out. What do we think about this? Is this your favorite R.E.M. song?

Yes, this is. Has anybody put this one in their top ten so far? Tony thrown out, guys. All right, this is the next track, of course, the classic. And why would this be track number six? Start of side two? No, but deep in. End of side one. I don't even think end, but to your point, I think R.E.M.,

like this should have just been the theme of the movie, but R.E.M. wanted to go for the Oscar and write a new one, right? But I did a great job. This song is in the movie quite a bit wanted to go for the Oscar and write a new one, right? But I did a great job. This song is in the movie quite a bit, actually. Yeah. They have an orchestral version of it a little later. This is – the next song is performed by Michael Stipe and Jim Carrey. This is a duet between them.

I don't think it's in the movie, but let's hear a little bit of it. Andy, thanks for joining us. Do you want to sing a song together? Sure. Is it a sweet song? Yeah, it's in the movie, but let's hear a little bit of it. Hi, Andy. Thanks for joining us. Do you want to sing a song together? Sure. Is it a sweet song? Yeah, it's real sweet. Okay. Okay.

In this friendly, friendly world With each day so full of joy Why should any heart be lonely? My turn! In this friendly, friendly world With each night so full of dreams why should any heart

be afraid the world is such a part of my issue with this movie too is not to completely rag on this movie because they they tried yeah they did and I've made shitty things me too I pooped yesterday that was one of them They tried. Yeah, they did. And I've made shitty things.

Me too. I pooped yesterday. That was one of them. I don't know if I would classify the movie as shitty. It's just... A misfire. Yeah, a little disappointing. Did Jim Carrey get nominated for an Oscar? He didn't, did he?

I don't think he did, no. I kind of don't think his... I think his Clifton is great. I don't think his Kaufman is very good. Really? I was really impressed watching it today. He looks like him. I just don't think his Clifton is great. I don't think his Kaufman is very good. Really? I was really impressed watching it today. He looks like him. I just don't think his, like, this whole part of it.

But they don't support his impression with a kind of interior life or a real character. It's just sort of, like you said, kind of an amalgamation of bits. You know that scene in Lethal Weapon where Mel Gibson is like, he's there in his trailer down on the beach and he's like, got that gun? Yeah, there's nothing like that. There's nothing like that. Just throw that scene in there. All right, so that's a duet.

I like that. I mean, I think this does no harm in the world. No, it's a duet. I like that. I mean, I think that this does no harm in the world. No, it's a delightful song. Okay, so this is Mike Mills performing this one written by the R.E.M. guys. It's called Miracle. This is nice. Sure. Yeah, it is.

I don't know when in the movie this is. Well, a miracle is happening, so I would imagine water is being turned into wine, or a dead body is being... Someone's walking on water, maybe. Yeah, possibly. I don't remember the movie that much, but... Maybe it's when he's going in for treatment? This is when he's actually on water, maybe. Yeah, possibly. I don't remember the movie that much, but maybe it's when he's going in for treatment. This is when he's actually on the moon. He's on the moon.

He's walking around. It's a miracle on the moon. There's no gravity. They're like, we can't call this movie Gravity, obviously, because there's none of it. This is nice. I like this. The next song on the record is called Lynn and Andy, which is Lynn is Andy Kaufman's wife, played by Courtney Lyke.

Anyway, I laughed so hard at that. Do I want to go to Memphis and get married? Mm-hmm. Why Memphis? Because Memphis is the wrestling capital of the world i'll get up in the ring and i'll announce that i'll marry the first woman who beats me then you can get up and we'll wrestle and i'll let you win you'll let me win i think rem should look into putting out a score record of this like you know like now that they're retired. I don't know why they didn't. Like without the dialogue over it.

But now that they're retired, they're looking, they're probably looking, I mean, they put out that unplugged record. They're probably looking for like records to put out to, you know, like put out a score record to this. There's got to be more. I'm sure it would be a huge seller. It would for two guys here. We'd have to buy it and review it. Okay, this is actually Andy Kaufman singing Rosemary. I think this is on The Letterman Show.

I'm not sure. Oh, Rose, my Rose Marie. Andy Kaufman, he would go on The Letterman Show and just sing an old song unironically. Yeah. You know, and that would be his performance. Love it. This is Andy Gets Fired. So Tony's thrown out earlier, and this is Andy Gets Fired. Fired from taxi?

Maybe. What else would he have been fired from? Heart beeps? Did he get fired from taxi? Or did he... I can't remember. He might have been. I think he was, wasn't he?

Yeah, he probably was. Like, they just were like, enough of your shit. We... Like, anyone can drive a taxi. But he was only on half. That was his original deal. He only has to be on half the episodes, and Tony Clifton gets to get four guest spots.

I'm not sure I've seen the Tony Clifton episodes of Taxi. Me neither. Yeah. I don't remember it. All right, this is I Will Survive, the classic disco track performed by Tony Clifton in the film. Ah. First I was afraid, I was putrefied.

Jim Carrey as Tony. Now, in the movie, sometimes it's Paul Giamatti, right? Maybe, yeah. Because he's playing Zmuda. There's a story in the documentary about how they called up the Playboy Mansion when there's a big party. Yeah. And they said, Jim wants to come to the party,

but he wants to dress as this character he's doing, Tony Clifton. And so Tony Clifton comes to the party and is just like an asshole. And they're all like, it's Jim Carrey.

They're like, it's cool. Yeah, let him be. Let him be. He's throwing drinks on people. He's insulting Hugh Hefner and everyone. And then after an hour of that, suddenly Jim Carey arrives at the party.

And who was that? Giamatti? I think that was Bob Zmuda. It was probably Zmuda, yeah. By the way, this version better than R.E.M.'s version that we played on one of our last episodes. R.E.M. covered this song as well? Yes, for a fan club release.

Not that great. It sounded like they were maybe going through it for the first time ever. Or they were preparing to go through it for the first time ever. This is Milk and Cookies. Good boys and girls. I would like to take everybody in this entire audience out for Milk and Cookies. There are buses outside. Everybody, follow me. Don't worry, folks. There's enough milk and cookies for everyone. This must have been fun for them to, like, write for an orchestra.

Yeah. I mean, you don't write music, right, Edgar? No. You're an appreciator. Yes. But I love when you record the score. It's always an amazing thing to go and sit there. What do you do when you go?

I just go there. You watch? I just watch. Usually, like, anything that you notes you have you've given before, like with the demo versions. You know the guy who's, like, waving around the stick you have, you've given before, like, with the demo versions. You know the guy who's, like, waving around the stick? The conductor. Does that do anything?

Like, I always see that guy, and I'm always like, they could just play it. They don't need that guy. And yet he gets this special bow at the beginning, and everyone's like, oh, what an amazing guy waving his dumb stick around. You know what those sticks actually are? What? It's a piece of uncooked spaghetti. Really?

Al dente? Yep. Al dente. But that must be thrilling to have like, what's the biggest number of pieces of an orchestra

that have played for one of your films? I think on like Half Fuzz we had a full orchestra. David Allen did the score for that. And then on

Baby Driver we recorded some of the score for that and then on Baby Driver we recorded some of the score at Abbey Road which was exciting wow yeah did Paul McCartney ever drop by

go oh what are you girls up to in here hello you may remember me I'm the beater with a mullet

did you did you go and you know how they have they have a camera now permanently oh because so many people were like injuring themselves trying to take pictures in the middle of the road did you did you go and you know how they have they have a camera now permanently oh because so many people were like injuring themselves

trying to take pictures in the middle of the road where there's like a live camera where you can see people try and take that Abbey Road show every 30 seconds and you can go

to a computer and get the picture of you crossing the street like later that day yeah because they wanted to get people out of the street basically

I want when Kulab and I were there we were like should we go to Abbey Road and it was kind of out of the way where basically. Yeah, yeah. When Kulab and I were there, we were like, should we go to Abbey Road? And it was kind of out of the way where we were. We were like in the middle of London, so we were like, eh, probably not worth the hour it'll take to get there. It is. I did. Is it really? Yeah.

Did you record anything while you were there? Yeah, I recorded a couple tracks. Really? Okay, this is Man on the Moon orchestral version. Coming up. I like this. Yeah. Well, you like the original song.

Yeah. I love the original song. So you would think that I would like this. To me, it doesn't stack up quite to Beethoven's best work. All right, one last song. This is the actual Andy Kaufman. I hope to see you again soon, and I love you, and thank you very much. Now, until we meet again.

Well, it's time to say goodbye wait the mighty mouse theme was a single from yeah i can't believe it i don't think that's that can't be true released in 1999 maybe it's a promo single but it says it's a single how weird so was it a single in its own right originally, like in the 50s? Probably. Maybe, yeah. I think it was popular, too. I remember that being my first exposure to Annie Kaufman. Oh, yeah.

I saw that on SNL when I was little and just loving it. So what do we think of this soundtrack, guys? Better than Baby Driver? I wish it was more substantial. I had one of my patented long car trips to Santa Monica the other day. And listeners out there are wondering, why are you going to Santa Monica so much? Also, how did you get a patent on a car trip? You apply for these things.

I didn't think I'd. LegalZoom.com, honestly. I didn't think I'd, you know, LegalZoom.com, honestly. But, and I was like, oh, okay, I'll listen to, you know, most of it on my way there and the rest on my way back. It was over way before I ever got there. Done by the time you're out of your driveway. Adam, that's funny. All right, so it's not my favorite soundtrack. All right, but let's move on.

Would you say it's your favorite R.E.M. album? Probably. Well, yeah. Number one with a bullet. Of course. Speaking of favorites and R.E.M. things, Edgar, we hyped it before. You have graciously compiled your top ten R.E.M. tracks of all time. When we were talking over the last couple of days

you were like, oh, I'll try to see if I can do it and then it became a daunting task for you. Well, it was great because I got to, I just listened to all the ones I liked again and I got it down to like, initially I got it down to 19 and then I got it down to 10. But that did mean I had to like throw out

You didn't do any ties, that's cheating. Well, the thing is, I originally had, like, 11, and then I realized that one, I only realized when I looked it up, it was a cover version. I did not realize that Superman is a cover. Yes, yes, but that's fine. But, I mean, to you, it was the original, as it was to me.

Well, if I wanted to get 11 down to 10, I could get rid of Superman. But it was such an obscure song that it may as well be over. I've never heard the original one. I think it's on one of the Nuggets box sets, maybe. Maybe, maybe not. I also, in doing this top 10, I had to throw out a bunch of the big ones. So Gone, Man on the Moon. And this is not because I don't like them.

It's almost too obvious. Man on the Moon, Losing My Religion. There's nothing from Out of Time, actually, on there. What are the other ones I had to get rid of? Can't Get There From Here. Anything from the post-Barry years, post-Bill Barry years. No. He left in 98-ish.

From the scary one, right? After the new Adventures in Hi-Fi was released. No, I actually, and this is why I need to listen to the rest of the podcast, is I need to, you know, what would you say if I listened to the ones post-Berry? I think don't listen to the albums. Listen to us talking over the albums. Okay, that sounds good. New Adventures in Hi-Fi is, I think we agree that that's one of their best.

Oh, post-Berry, I don't even know because I've only listened to one of them at this point. I would say the last two, Accelerated and Collapse Into Now, and the first one, Up. Don't spoil it. We're going to talk about Reveal soon. I don't want to spoil it. Okay, so let's— So my top ten, this is going to be really annoying. Okay, that's fine.

Is it okay if they're in chronological order? Oh, sure, yeah. Because I couldn't bother to rank them. Because you couldn't rank them. Okay, that's fine. Is it okay if they're in chronological order? Oh, sure, yeah. Because I couldn't bother to rank them. Because you couldn't rank them. Okay, no problem. Okay, that's easier

for me to find them. Okay, so what's number 10? Oh, 10. Oh, so we're going Yeah, but I mean No, let's do them in chronological order.

Yeah, I know, but we're going to pretend that you're doing them. Okay, so number 10. Well, Radio Free Europe. Radio Free Europe. Radio Free Europe. I tried very hard to not make this exactly like the track listing of Eponymous. Right.

Which version do you like? Do you know there's two different versions? I like the— The one on Eponymous? Yeah, the re-recorded one. You do? Yeah, the demo one's good, too, but I like this one. Wait, this is the original.

This is the one on Eponymous. Yeah, this isn't the demo, though. Demo's faster than this. Well, this is the original single. Wait, this is the original. This is the one on eponymous. Oh, yeah, this isn't the demo, though. Demo is faster than this. Well, this is the original single. Yeah, this is the same. There's the original single, then there's the album version. The original single was on eponymous,

and then the hit version in the US was the album version. Oh, right. Play the murmur one and just... I like this one, though. Yeah. It's, like, faster. Yeah, the...

This is the album version. Oh, my God. That must have been an exciting day when they found that keyboard. Hey, let's put this on record. Guys, come here. Hey! Oh, yeah.

I like this one, actually. I like both. I go back and forth. They're both so good. It's quite different. Yeah, almost different key, or maybe they did that Verispeed thing where they sped one of them up or something.

Okay, what's track, quote, nine, unquote? Don't Go Back to Rockville. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Don't Go Back to Rockville. What a great song. What a great one.

I love these early ones. They're difficult to sing along to because you can't understand what the fuck you're saying. Yeah, you just mumble. Yeah, just go. Well, we've talked about it because you can't understand what the fuck you're saying. Yeah, you just mumble. Well, we've talked about it on the show where we thought the lyrics were the lyrics. I love this song so much. This is a great song.

Okay, what is number eight? Okay, number eight is Begin the Begin. Oh, yeah. Begin the Begin. Fantastic. In fact, Life's Rich Pageant might be my favorite R.E.M. album. We're going to get to our favorite albums towards the end of this. This is incredible. This is incredible.

I know. I love this. If you're doing the drinking game every time Adam says something, it's incredible. Okay, what's your next one? Well, I think this is the perfect one to punch to start an album on Life Switch Badgeant. So number two is These Days. Yeah, These Days. These two in a row are fantastic.

It's such a great opener for this album. That's great. I remember they used to, like, on British TV, they used to have Formula One racing. on British TV, it's Formula One racing. And there'd always be some sort of cool cat who would put some great guitar track at the end. And one day I was watching Formula One and somebody put These Days at the end of it.

I was like, yes! Fuck yes, I like racing now. I did like racing anyway. But I was like, who's this hipster who's kind of putting this on the end of the... That's awesome. All right, what's your next one?

Well, this is going to be on nobody else's top ten, and I put this in for sentimental reasons. Yep. Underneath the bunker. Oh, cool. That's great. That's cool. Ah.

Now, the reason this has sentimental value to me is because one of my early amateur films I made when I was like 18, a film called Dead Right, which is actually on the Hot Fuzz Blu-ray. Oh, cool. This was the end credits music. Oh. Is it on the... No, we couldn't clear it. Or rather, we didn't bother to clear it. This song is the reason that I put Tricycle

on my New Adventures in Hi-Fi, trying to sort of emulate this feeling of like a little bit of levity at the end of the song. Yeah, I like this one. Also, it feels like this is one of Michael Stipe's bullhorn vocals as well. Oh, yeah. When he finally starts singing.

It's definitely through a loud halo. He was one of the first people to do the bullhorn thing, which has been perfected by Bono. Well, I remember vividly their first ever appearance on Top of the Pops REM, which I think was for Orange Crush.

Michael Stipe. You know that period when they were like with Warner Brothers where it felt like they're actively like uncomfortable with fame? Like a lot of the songs were green and like out of time. And they did a particularly kind of contrary appearance a lot of the songs are green and like out of time. And they did a particularly

kind of contrary appearance on Top of the Pops where he had sunglasses on and he was singing through a bullhorn for the whole of Orange Crush. So it was their first ever appearance on the show

and yet, you know, he was particularly like enigmatic. Does that work when you're like basically saying fuck you to something like that?

Do people look at that and go, oh, that's fucking cool? I remember it. That's the important thing. I should start doing that. I think in 1988. Oops, I'm playing Flowers of Guatemala.

That's not on my top ten. Okay, so what's your next one? And you can talk about 1988. Well, Superman's out, so that's not part of my top ten anymore. So the next one, if we're going to crawl shorter, would be the one I love. Okay. Now, Adam, go ahead and talk about it. I was just saying that I probably thought it was real

because I remember they were on Arsenio Hall and they did kind of a similar, he did kind of a similar thing where he just kind of stood there like, I'm embarrassed to be on this show. And I thought it was amazing. All right, Edgar, what's your next one? The End of the World As We Know It. I know it's obvious, but it is an amazing song.

It's like the cool indie version of We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel. It's so good. Do you think Billy Joel kind of ripped it off? Where do you fall on this? Not to do an R.E.M. pun, fall on me, I get it. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. I'm really funny. No,M. pun, fall on me, I get it. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. I'm really funny.

No, but where do you fall on the... Nick Frost would always do this joke about We Didn't Start the Fire where he would just sing, you know the bit, they do it in this way, like the music drops out and then he sings one part of the lyric. And then We Didn't Start the Fire, Billy Joe goes, Children of Thalidomide. And so Nick Frost would frequently just sing that bit alone

and just that's never good. Children of Thalidomide. I wanted to do... I always Nick Frost would frequently just sing that bit alone and just children of the land of mine I wanted to do I don't think he ripped it off I wanted to do a performance where kind of Kaufman-esque where I just played the song

and then then only did the lettered bird sign there's also in the UK this would mean absolutely nothing for any like British listeners another song in the same vein as would mean absolutely nothing for any British listeners. Another song in the same vein as this that would, my friend would always run these two things together into We Didn't Start the Fire,

but the British sitcom Only Fools and Horses has this theme tune. Only what? Only Fools and Horses. Like Fours? Fools. Fools and Horses. Very long-running sitcom. It would have this very memorable title theme.

It sounds not dissimilar to We Didn't Start the Fire. Really? And I think somebody, who was it? I think Matt Lucas used to do that. He used to sing Only Fools and Horses and then go into We Didn't Start the Fire. In England, when you say fools like that, do people get it? Only Fools and Horses? No, but you know what I mean?

Maybe this is my addiction. Oh, I don't know. I have no idea. Okay, what's your next one? Are you fools and horses? No, but you know what I mean? Oh, I don't know. I have no idea. Okay, what's your next one? Where are we right now? Do we have more? Yeah, we have three more. Okay. Stand. Oh, I don't have that on my iPod. Sorry.

Oh, you don't have stand? Oh, no, no. I saw that on your paper earlier, and I was like, that makes me so happy. I love that song. It's going to freak Scott out. Well, I think green was maybe one of the – at that point, green was when they started to become, like, a thing in the U.K. to the point where in the summer of – was it 89 or 88? 88, 89.

It came out at the end of 88, so yeah, 89. So in 89, the two T-shirts I would wear most frequently would be the Batman t-shirt, obviously. Great. And also, like, a green R.A.M. t-shirt. Me, too. I had a black, green R.A.M. t-shirt. Yes, a black t-shirt with the orange design. Yeah, yeah.

I didn't have the... It didn't seem particularly, kind of, like, perverse to have. I also had the hat. An ample green with an orange logo. Yeah. I had a Batman thing, but it wasn't the t-shirt. It was, like, a kind of molded suit, almost. With nipples I used to wear

I found a photo of myself wearing the green t-shirt the other day but I wore that green t-shirt send it along with send it along with that other track as well if we can

okay what's your next one well just because it's in Baby Driver New Orleans Instrumental number one that's right very good they never did it to

to was a B-side they did do it to they did do a two, yeah. Oh, they did do a two. I've never heard two. Yeah. We played it on this. If you want to hear it, just listen to the show. Every episode.

We'll get to it. Don't go on Apple Music or Spotify. No, we'll get around to it. Listen to the podcast. Okay, what's your last one? Night Swimming. Yeah. Classic.

I mean, a great song. If you had to, out of these ten, say like, you know what, this is my favorite, what would you say? It's very difficult to, I mean, you could say anything and it would sound sort of really dramatic with Night Swing playing at the beat. That's true.

I feel like I was going to say something really profound because Night Swing kicked in. If I had to pick one, I mean, it would probably have to be It's the End of the World as We Know It. It's classic. It makes you feel good. It's aversive. It's a sing-along for a reason, and it was popular for a reason.

And it sounded like nothing else at the time when it came out, right? I mean, I only have one. Well, I guess I have two. All the way through. Where would you place, would you place R.E.M. in the pantheon of great bands? What would you say is your favorite record of all time? Oh, my God.

That's a really difficult question. I actually did this for something. I did for a website. I did my 13 favorite albums of all time. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What were they? I can't remember.

Hang on a second. I can tell you. Adam's putting on his shirt to leave. By the way, you're the one that asked that last question. I did, and that's a question that can't be easily answered. Yeah. We're going to have to wrap it up and try to find that. If you guys want to –

No. But we're going to end it. What do you have? The visitor is leaving, and I definitely... Did you get that text alert of someone at the door? I can route for it real quick. Okay, what's your favorite, though? What's my favorite?

Oh, man. Did you do the chronological for that bullshit, too? I did. I couldn't pick. Really? Chronological date-wise? By date? Yeah, I couldn't pick a favorite album.

I'll give you something. It's a Lalo Schifrin compilation that I love, Mission Impossible and more. Oh, yeah. The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society, Abbey Road by the Beatles, Hunky Dory by David Bowie, Kimono My House.

By the way, that's my favorite Beatles record and my favorite Bowie record. I knew we'd get on that. That is definitely my Beatles record. Kimono My House by Sparks. By Sparks, yeah. Sheer Heart Attack by Queen. Squeeze. Singles? Singles. I was justono My House by Sparks. By Sparks, yeah. Sheer Heart Attack by Queen. Squeeze.

Singles? Singles. I was just listening to that the other day. What an amazing album. That's the first Squeeze record I ever heard, so I consider that to be an album. The Singles record? I consider that to be an album.

Parade by Prince. Trump Flamon by Pixies. That's a... Not my favorite Prince record, I have to say. Oh, I love Parade. Orange by John Spencer Blues Explosion. I should... The only Britpop album on the list, I Should Coco by Supergrass. But we both love that record.

That record is fantastic. That's a classic. Midnight Vultures by Beck. And then a recent one, Nonagon Infinity by King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. Oh. Which I highly, highly recommend. But if I had to put it- You're asking another question? Life's Rich Pageant would be myard Wizard. Oh. Which I highly, highly recommend. But if I had to put, if it's bubbling under. You're asking another question?

Life's Rich Pageant would be my REM choice. Yeah. That Supergrass record, remember they had just like a self-titled record kind of later on? Yeah, Supergrass, yeah. I love that record too. That's good too, yeah. All right, Edgar, I got to thank you so much for coming by and talking about music. I could talk about music with you forever.

Adam? It's fine. Any last thoughts about REM before do you want them to get back together and play at a backyard barbecue for us? I've never seen them live, so I absolutely Okay, so your green t-shirt was not from a concert. No, I just had it. I just bought it

from like a... So we're trying to get them to reunite and play at a backyard barbecue. Yes. And we've talked about it on this show, like here's what we need from them. to get them to reunite and play at a backyard barbecue. Yes. And we've talked about it on this show. Like, here's what we need from them. We need them to do two sets of entirely different songs, two sets of 90 minutes apiece. And 90 minutes of brand new songs for the barbecue. All barbecue themed.

Can I add an extra request? Sure, yeah. Oh, yeah. Could they also sing We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel? Yes. That's a good idea. And Edgar, you're going to be the first person we invite to that. Thank you so much.

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