U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - R U Talkin' R.E.M. RE: ME? - R.E.M. at the BBC

Episode Date: November 21, 2018

Adam Scott Aukerman are back to discuss R.E.M.’s 2018 live album box set “R.E.M. at the BBC.” They also talk about Robin Hood, Twilight Zone, and we hear another episode of “U Talkin’ U2 To ...Me?”. This episode is brought to you by Leesa (www.leesa.com/REM code: REM).

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Starting point is 00:01:36 this is good rock and roll music. A little air drumming? You know, hard not to air drum to this song. I know, it's a lot of fun. First of all, hello, Scott. Hello. Air drumming in general is fun, or air drumming to this song in particular? Yeah, air drumming to this song is fun.
Starting point is 00:01:59 What's the best song to air drum to? Can I finish what I was going to say, please? Can I finish, can I finish? Can I finish, can I finish? Can I finish, can I finish? Is this an episode of Can I Finish? I think it might be. I started something, forced you to a zone, and you were clearly never meant to go. Hey, everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Welcome to Can I Finish? This is Scott. And this is Scott. And today we're just wondering if each other can finish. Like, I just, I have one question for you today, Scott. Yeah, what is it? And it is to Can I Finish? This is Scott. And this is Scott. And today we're just wondering if each other can finish. Like, I just, I have one question for you today, Scott. Yeah, what is it? And it is, can I finish? I have one question for you, which is in turn, can I finish, can I finish?
Starting point is 00:02:33 Can I finish? Can I finish, can I finish? Can I finish? Can I finish? Can I finish? Can I finish? Top three places where this is, that phrase is used most often. Can I finish? Yeah. Okay. Let's name them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Well, number one with a bullet, as far as I'm concerned, is at dinner when the waiter is about to take your meal away. Can I finish? Can I finish? Can I finish? Yeah. Number two, the toilet. When the toilet is what?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Trying to- When the toilet's legs sprout and it starts to run away. To run away. Can I finish? Can I finish, please? Can I finish? And number one with a bullet, according to Scott. Yeah, I mean, you said top three.
Starting point is 00:03:20 We said one and two. One and two. So number three without a bullet. Number three. Number three without a bullet. With a bow and arrow. Is when you're watching Robin Hood. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And the VHS tape malfunctions. The VHS machine malfunctions. They're making another Robin Hood movie. Good one. How come you're not in that Robin Hood movie? I don't know. The one with... With Jamie Foxx and the dude from Kingsman.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And Eve Hewson. Oh, is she? Yeah. Oh, crazy. From our other show? Yeah. Eve Hewson from our other show. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:52 From our U2 show. You know what? When... By the way, thanks for listening to Can I Finish? Bye. Bye. I started something Forced you to a zone
Starting point is 00:04:04 And you were clearly Never meant to go Good ep. Yeah, that was a great one. Ep, that is. What were you talking about from our other show? When we were walking out of the aforementioned party. Yeah, okay. Mentioned in our other podcast. Mentioned in our other podcast. Previous episode. By the way, I'm Scott Auk okay. This is- Affirmen- Mentioned in our other podcast. Mentioned in our other podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Previous episode. By the way, I'm Scott Aukerman. This is Adam Scott. Hi, guys. And we're flashing back here. It's Flashback Friday somehow. Oh, man. Flashback.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Flashback Wednesday? Flashback Wednesday. We're flashing back to our previous episode of our previous show, You Talking U2 to Me. I'm sorry. Is this an episode of You Talking U2 to Me. I'm sorry, is this an episode of You Talking U2 to Me?
Starting point is 00:04:46 I think it might be. From boy to breaking wave, every last one of them, that is, this is You Talking U2 to Me? Me? The comprehensive and encyclopedia compendium of them, that is. This is you talking U2 to me? Me? The comprehensive and encyclopedia compendium of all things U2. This is good rock and roll on music. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Hey, everybody. We were just talking about an aforementioned episode. I believe it was the last episode. Our very last episode, I believe, where we detailed the story of the post-Madison Square Garden, aka MSG. Sure, MSG. Show, where we chanced upon a young lady named Eve Hewson. Did we include this in our tale of the evening? We did.
Starting point is 00:05:39 We did. I believe we did talk about this, yes. She was very cool and I think maybe- I don't recall if we this. She was very cool. I don't recall if we gave every detail of our conversation, which lasted approximately six hours. Yeah, we stopped on the way out the door and talked to Eve for six hours. Under a doorframe. Which, you know, if an earthquake had occurred,
Starting point is 00:05:59 we'd all be safe. Yep. I try to have every conversation under a doorframe if I can. We're recording under a doorframe currently. Earthquakes can drop at any moment. Mm-hmm. Just like a Beyonce album. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:14 We talked to her, and I think she thought it was somewhat maybe adorable that we had a podcast about her father's band. Not that we are adorable no no no but the the situation being adorable yes um but i think she thought i was adorable honestly oh listen i saw the way she was looking at not you or me um no she was very nice and and was really sweet about like us having a nerdy podcast about her dad's death. Can you imagine someone having a podcast about your dad? Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:06:51 I can. The Dougald Scott Chronicles. Dougald? Yeah. That's the kind of name where it sounds like you just can't decide. What's the child's name going to be? Doug... Doug...
Starting point is 00:07:07 Dougal? It's a very Scottish name, and it's where Douglas comes from. At some point, someone said, you know what? Let's just make this easier and turned it into Douglas. Really? That's easier than Douglas and Dougald? Dougald is easier to say. Dougal.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Douglas. Douglas. Dougal. easier to say. Dougal. Douglas. Douglas. Dougal. Douglas. Douglas. Dougal. You're right. Douglas.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Douglas. Dougal. Now it's starting to sound like it's a type of glass that you're talking about. Dougal. Douglas. Douglas. Just grab some Douglas. Grab the Douglas over here.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Anyway, she's in the new Robin Hood movie. Cool. Who is she? Ma the new Robin Hood movie. Cool. Who is she? Maid Marian? I don't know. Little John? Lil John? She's Lil John. She plays Lil John? And Jamie Foxx. Drop! That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Okay, bye. Bye what? Oh, okay. Yeah, bye. Ah, good app. Yeah, bye. Good app. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. I feel like that was my fault for some reason. Welcome back to Are You Talking to R.E.M., Remy.
Starting point is 00:08:16 This is an exciting episode. It's been a little bit of time since we've been together. Approximately, let's see. Did you do the calculations? Well, according to my calculations. I do believe we stopped doing these around September.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Is that true? Early Sept? Was our last episode? Yes, it was. Early Sept. So this has been... This has been a good September, October...
Starting point is 00:08:42 It's like three years. Yeah, three years. Yeah, three years since I've seen you. Yeah. You've gotten so old. Yeah, I've gained a lot of weight. Yeah. And all in just one part of your body.
Starting point is 00:08:52 The cock. The dick. In the dick. What if someone came to you? You hadn't seen someone in three years. Suddenly you see them, they're naked with an erection. You're like, you've gained so much weight last time i saw you your dick wasn't that shape or size at all no no i just have an erection now oh oh in what situation would that i guess at the at the gym or that would be
Starting point is 00:09:18 as your toilet is running away yeah that's true um, but we haven't seen each other in a while, and we had to call an emergency recording sesh as the band that this entire program is devoted to. Hey, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, and I think they came out. And you. Yeah, I guess. Because you said it. I mean, yeah, sort of.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I think they put out a new record or records. Is it a box set? It is a boxed set. See, I don't have the boxed set. Nor do I. We don't have it. No, I don't have a physical copy. By the way, we're talking about REM at the BBC.
Starting point is 00:10:01 REM at the He-BC. the BBC. I am at the He-BC. I am. We tried to get an advanced copy of this so we could put out this episode in a
Starting point is 00:10:11 timely manner. Yeah. As I believe when it came out, physically, neither you nor I were available to record an ep until
Starting point is 00:10:21 now. That's right. I believe you were up in Canada doing, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee. You know what happened? Consider a man who is so stupid that he thinks he sees a monster on a plane.
Starting point is 00:10:35 That's right. Who is the perfect man to play this stupid motherfucker? You're in the new Twilight Zone that Jordan Peele is producing and you're playing the third iteration of a role that has been played by William Shatner and John Lithgow.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I've always thought that you are the rightful heir to those acting styles. Yes, the two of them. It's almost like you mix their two styles together and it equals me. Yeah. Just the subtlety of Shatner.
Starting point is 00:11:07 That's right. And the subtlety of Lithgow. Lithgow is amazing in that. I hadn't seen it in a long time. Did you watch it before you filmed the appearance or after? I watched it before. Or in the middle. I watched it while we were filming.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You're watching it on the plane. Yeah. What an Easter egg that would be um and it's pretty great i haven't seen in a while i remember albert brooks and dan akroyd at the beginning that's a great scene i remember i saw it opening weekend i believe saturday matinee at the uh valley view cinema and uh i have not seen it since i have the blu-ray, but I have not watched it. But I remember Kick the Can being kind of boring.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I remember... Wait, Kick the Can. That's the Spielberg one. Which one is that? Where they kick the fucking can. I don't... The old people. I watched 30,000 feet.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I didn't watch the other... You didn't watch the rest of them. No. Oh, okay. There's this like... I think... Oh, the old people. The old people.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I feel like... Who's the dude from The Shining? Is he in it? Scatman Crothers. Oh, okay. There's this like, I think. Oh, the old people. The old people. I feel like, who's the dude from The Shining? Is he in it? Scatman Crothers. Scatman. I believe Scatman Crothers is in it. Okay, I remember that one. I remember that being sort of cloying. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And then there was the one that, you know, where all the shit went down. The John Landis one. Yeah, that's the John Landis one. I mean, as a kid going to see it at the Aptos Twin, I loved every second of it. Did you? Yeah. I think you were a little bit younger than me, so I think you were discerning. For some reason, I think I was reading reviews by then.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Sure. Not a well-reviewed movie? No, but I remember having a preconceived sort of notion that it doesn't, I hear it doesn't really work. Yeah. And then I think I also was, I believe it was like 85 or 86. I would say 83. That would be my guess. Have we talked about we're talking about The Twilight Zone? The Twilight Zone movie.
Starting point is 00:12:59 If people are totally lost. Sorry, did we forget to mention that this is an episode of Talking About Twilight Zone? totally lost sorry did we forget to mention that this is an episode of talking about twilight zone hey everyone welcome to talking about twilight zone this is scott and this is scott and i gotta admit i was tricked into doing this show because i thought it was talking about twilight right and then adam just paused for a really long time and said zone that's how i got you in the building i don't know anything about the Twilight Zone. But, yeah, we're talking about Twilight Zone. And I remember going into it, I believe, do you know what year it came out, by the way?
Starting point is 00:13:37 And you're a guy who knows years of every movie. Yes, I would say the movie came out in 83. Am I correct? I don't believe it came out in 83 because I think ET must have come out in 83 82 is ET okay yeah so but it couldn't have come out a year
Starting point is 00:13:49 after ET let's look it up bro Poltergeist would have been what 84 probably I think it's
Starting point is 00:13:56 got to be 85 look it up look it up no because that was that was Back to the Future so that kind of yeah that would be it was
Starting point is 00:14:04 it would be before Back to the Future you're right so 84... Yeah, that would be... It would be before Back to the Future, you're right. So, 84, probably. 84, maybe? Yeah. My guess would be 83, but... Look it up, look it up, look it up, look it up. Let's look it up.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Look it up. Yeah, Kumail's doing the one after me. He was up there. Do you know what... It probably hasn't broken yet. It actually just did. Oh, really? Which one is he playing?
Starting point is 00:14:25 It's not... His is not a remake. A previous one? I think they should do non-remakes. I think mine might be the only one. Really? I'm not totally sure about that. So basically, if people haven't seen The Twilight Zone, Adam plays this dude on a plane who goes nuts.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And everyone's like, is it in his head? Is it something he's actually seeing? Who cares? Because, you know, it only affects him and he just goes crazy. 83. 83. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It's a different... It'll be cool. I can't wait to see it. It's a different take on it. Okay, good. So I'll just be sitting there going, okay, it's not done
Starting point is 00:15:02 like the usual way. See, here's what I like to do when I watch Twilight Zone episodes I like to guess what's gonna happen oh man it's great
Starting point is 00:15:10 I'll be like guesswork I bet the aliens are humans I bet the ugly people are pretty people yeah you know it's whatever the reverse is
Starting point is 00:15:18 you know what I mean I bet those shoes I bet I bet they're not I bet they're gloves yeah those are glove shoes I bet that plane is a bus yeah that's what I'll be saying the whole time well that guy's nose it's gonna fall off his face yep I bet. I bet they're not. I bet they're gloves. Yeah, those are glove shoes. I bet that plane is a bus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:25 That's what I'll be saying the whole time. Well, that guy's nose is going to fall off his face. Yep. And into his soup. His glasses. Which is actually a salad. His glasses are going to break. What was your favorite Twilight Zone episode ever?
Starting point is 00:15:40 You know, I do have to say the one that where the tiny aliens are attacking the woman in the attic really frightened me when I was young. And that is – I was talking about beforehand is they're actually – then you find out, whoa, they're not aliens or weird creatures. They're humans on a – and she like – God, I don't remember this one. Oh, okay. They're like these weird people in little, you know, kind of suits or whatever attacking this woman. And she finally like beats the shit out of all of them. And then she destroys their craft. And you see it's a U.S. aircraft. And like these Americans have traveled to a land of giants or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Or just trying to get home or whatever. And it's, it's, it's one of those things that, that deals with perspective of like, you know, storytelling perspective when you're in the perspective of the woman, you think the,
Starting point is 00:16:34 the hero of the, or the heroine of the story is her, but you know, then you think, wait a minute, but I'm an American. And if I were in that situation, I would,
Starting point is 00:16:42 the hero would be the, the villain. They did. It was a half hour long show. They did. villain. It was a half-hour long show. They did – Yeah. It was pretty incredible. Can I tell you –
Starting point is 00:16:49 Yeah, what's yours? The summer that I discovered Twilight Zone, my next – You discovered it? Wow. Thank you. Yeah, no problem. You know, I've always – It's so crazy on this show to talk about Twilight Zone.
Starting point is 00:17:04 We have the person who discovered it. Yeah, it's been a burden for me carrying it because everybody loves the Twilight Zone so much and I'm not going to discover it. Yeah, and you were just a young boy. I was just a kid. What was the situation? Was it some Indiana Jones-style archaeological dig or something?
Starting point is 00:17:22 That's right. I was doing an archaeological dig in Sri Lanka. Whoa! Yeah. And you just found all these Twilight Zone episodes? Yeah, I found a bunch of tapes. I was like, what is this? Wow, crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:34 And I took the tapes and put them on the back of my elephant, rode back into town. I was like, lose fucking tapes. Why didn't the elephant offer to wrap all the tapes up in its trunk? He did. He did. He did. But you were like, it's a long journey.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I was like, no, let's put them on your back. And I rode on the trunk. You rode? Oh, really? Yeah, because I like to be out front. I like to see where we're going. Yeah, otherwise you get elephant sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I don't want to get elephant sick. Because you get elephant sick, then you have to deal with all those symptoms. Yeah, yeah. Again, I was just a kid. You were just a kid at the time. You don't know. I don't know. Anyway, so I don't know why I'm talking like this.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You were talking, yeah. Anyway, brought him back into town, you know, that town there. Sri Lanka. Started watching him. I'm like, this is pretty good. I should probably tell my friends about this back in America
Starting point is 00:18:25 yeah and so I put them back on the back of the elephant and just rode it right back to America all the way back to America yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:18:33 and started selling them selling them yeah just right on top of the ocean just started selling them just out of the the trunk of my car you had a car
Starting point is 00:18:41 how old were you I was let's see 11 12 years old so your parents bought you a car for to sell my you? I was, let's see, 11, 12 years old. So your parents bought you a car? To sell my Twilight Zone episode. Oh, got it, got it. It was out of the trunk.
Starting point is 00:18:50 That's right. And the car was very, very small. Right. And it wasn't big enough to write the Twilight Zone on because it was such a small car. So one side said Twi and then the other side said Light Zone. Oh, now Light Zone. I'm kind of interested in that show. Cool, right?
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah, cool. But then it's the same way you tricked me into being on this show. Just put the big paws in between it. Speaking of big paws, those elephants, they got those big honking ones, don't they? Big old paws. And isn't it weird that you sold things out of the trunk of your car, and the elephant has a trunk. I know, and the elephant has a trunk. I know. And the elephant was a little pissed off.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah. He carried me all the way across the ocean. And then he's like, you're getting a different trunk? Right. Because he brought me across the Atlantic and I was like, bro, we have to turn around. I live in Santa Cruz, bro. We got to turn this. So we went back around.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Through the Panama Canal? Went down through the Panama Canal. And I was like, let's stop turn this. So we went back around. Through the Panama Canal? Went down through the Panama Canal. And I was like, let's stop in Hawaii. Sure. And so we went surfing. And you surfed on the elephant's back. Me and the elephant surfed. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And caught this insane wave and surfed it all the way to Santa Cruz. Whoa, that's insane. This story gets better and better. We're like, surfing this wave. I was like, I got these tapes, bro. Tapes.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Tapes. Wow. Yeah. And then immediately you just trade in the elephant for something. For a car, for a small car. That has a trunk, yeah. I was like, later.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Wow. And where's that elephant now? He passed on. Passed on to what? He passed on? No, he passed on something? He passed on a bunch of different jobs, including being a guest on this. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I'd love to talk to him. But he himself is living very well up in the Bay Area. In the Bay Area? In a zoo or? As a human being. Oh, wow. Okay. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I'd love to talk to him at some point if you could give me his. Well, I might be able to arrange that. He did pass on being here. True, but. We could try again. Yeah, let's try again. All right. We'll see you next time.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Thanks. Bye. Great. Great. Great. true but we could try again yeah let's try again all right we'll see you next time thanks bye great great great stuff you were gonna tell me though maybe we should get back into that episode though because you were gonna tell me when you discover the twilight zone some story let's get back into it okay hi welcome back we took a little break. Tell me about the Twilight Zone. Yeah, so my next door neighbor, this terrific guy named Joe Ferrara, owned Atlantis Fantasy World,
Starting point is 00:21:33 which was the comic book store in Santa Cruz. The comic book store that is in The Lost Boys. Wait, your friend owned the store? My next door neighbor owned Atlantis. It is this place I went every single day to buy buy comics and stuff every single day to buy comics yeah i would ride my bike downtown and why not go once a week well i buy everything that one day i didn't exactly have money it's not like you're buying ice cream and you don't all you have is an ice box or something that shit's gonna spoil you know You can only buy one comic book per day.
Starting point is 00:22:08 By the way, speaking of comics, I know this is a sidebar. Yeah. We have to thank our good friend Mitch Gerards, who drew you and I into Mr. Miracle 12. Oh, yeah. That's pretty great. Yeah, listener, comic book artist, one of the best comic artists out there right now. So cool.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Getting rave reviews for this series, a series that i've been reading uh this entire year and was one of my favorite comics of the year yeah uh suddenly you and i are uh uh drawn on page one page one of mr miracle 12 go out and pick it up it's in stores now yeah love it so anyway joe uh and this is the comic book store, again, that is featured in The Lost Boys. At this point, you telling the story, is this 82 or something? So it hasn't been in The Lost Boys yet. No, this is probably 84 when we moved into this house. And I'm like, whoa, we're next door to Joe from Atlanta's Fantasy World.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But you're talking about when you discovered The Twilight Zone. Right. The movie had already been out. No, I'm getting to that. Okay. And he, oh, maybe it was, but whatever it was, he had this incredible VHS collection. He had every single Twilight Zone on VHS.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Oh, wow. How did he get them? Were they like, would he tape the marathons or something? He did something. Maybe you didn't have the marathons up where you were, but KTLA in LA. Well, they showed them every night at 11. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Instead of the news, there was a channel that showed Twilight Zone. So I'd watch it before Carson. And some people would have thought that was the news. It's like the world's gone fucking crazy. You turn on the news. Holy cow. You know, I was thinking about this the other day. All you ever hear about with that Orson Welles War of the Worlds stunt that he pulled, all you ever hear about with that, you know, Orson Welles War of the Worlds
Starting point is 00:23:45 stunt that he pulled, all you ever hear about are the dumb shits who fell for it. Like, what about the people who are like, all these dumb shits
Starting point is 00:23:52 fell for this? Yeah, what about the 98% of everyone who just thought You hear about the people running out of the movie screaming that a train
Starting point is 00:23:59 is coming out of them. What about the people who are sitting there going, hey, idiots, this is a movie. Hey, dumbbells. You know?
Starting point is 00:24:07 What are you guys doing? Let's write a movie about the- Let's write a movie about the very first time that anyone ever saw that movie. Yeah. And everyone runs out and gets hit by a real train.
Starting point is 00:24:15 No, but it was a radio show. Well, War of the Worlds was. A radio play. I'm talking about the train movie. Oh, the train. I thought you were talking about War of the Worlds. I started there
Starting point is 00:24:24 and then I segued. Oh. Sorry. I segued. Oh, the train. I thought you were talking about War of the Worlds. I started there and then I segued. Oh. Sorry. I segued. I missed the segu. Anyway. Yeah. So he told me anytime I wanted, I could go watch as many Twilight Zones as I wanted to.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And he had this big. Where? In his bedroom? No. No. All you got to do is take off your little jeans. No. No.
Starting point is 00:24:44 He was the coolest dude. I could go watch Twilight Zone on his, we didn't even have a, I had like a little five inch black and white of my own. I got to go watch his giant. Are you talking about your penis right now? That's right. A five inch black and white.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Oh boy. So I love adults like that who, you know, I had a dude when I was, I had my paper out when I was 12 who would teach me guitar. I would deliver the paper to him and he would teach me guitar. And my parents had every right to be wary of this. Yeah. And when I would tell them and they'd be like, you're not going into his house. I'd be like, no, we're on the porch of his apartment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You know, every right not going into his house. I'd be like, no, we're on the porch of his apartment. Every right to be wary of it. But I do, I don't even know if I would let my children where I'd have any do something like what you're talking about, about going to a store and watching Twilight Zones on some guy's TV. I would probably be like, hey, let's not do that or whatever. But when we were growing up, there were a lot of adults would probably be like, hey, let's not do that or whatever. But when we were growing up, there were a lot of adults who were just like, hey, here's something cool.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And he had all the cool shit because he owned a comic book. Anyway, Joe's great. Which was your favorite episode? Probably the Burgess Meredith one. Oh, the reading glasses one?
Starting point is 00:26:01 It really blew my mind. The glasses one, because of the apocalypse and all that I don't remember what happened in it what part of it blew your mind
Starting point is 00:26:11 like the irony of I don't know okay alright thanks we'll see you next time bye bye I really do love
Starting point is 00:26:22 that episode though the one of talking about Twilight Zone which we just did I love that episode, though. The one of talking about Twilight Zone. Which we just did. I love that episode. So, we're talking about REM. Yeah. We haven't done an episode in a while.
Starting point is 00:26:37 This is, it's been, we've established three years, and you've gotten really old. Old. Old. And you've gained, or wait, which of us gained weight? You also gained weight, and you've gotten really old and old old and you've gained or wait which of us gained weight you also gained weight and you've gotten old
Starting point is 00:26:48 I've looked the same you look great but what what has been going on in Adam Scott's life
Starting point is 00:26:57 since we wrapped up the show in September anything happening uh boy oh boy just been wheeling and dealing wheeling dealing making
Starting point is 00:27:07 deals just make just deals deals deals deals deal or no deal deal no deal no deal uh yeah crazy crazy deal making just how about you man i haven't been doing anything. Just sitting around cranking it every day. Just cranking? Yeah. Cranking and shanking? Love it. I usually crank it, and then I try to shank someone I live with with a sharpened spoon. That's the problem with cranking is every time I crank it, I feel like I have to go shank it. I really want to shank it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And that means there's going to be a victim. There's going to be a victim. And you're hoping it's somebody who just comes by the house. Yeah. Like a mailman or a milkman. Or a villain who deserves it. Sure. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I mean, in a just universe, anyone who falls victim to a situation like that would deserve it. But as we all know, there is no God and the universe is not just. And terrible things happen to good people. Yeah. And that will never be solved and do you think we'll ever get to a universe where every single good person has good things happen to them proportionately or do you think it will be as it always has been of just random occurrences of uh terrible misery and sorrow uh uh unfortunately I'm going to go with the latter.
Starting point is 00:28:26 The latter. Yeah. So what, I mean, I consider you to be, I don't know that I consider you to be a good person as much as someone who tries to do no harm. Thank you very much. I mean, your proclivities and your instincts are to do bad. Yeah, bad, bad things.
Starting point is 00:28:46 But you tamp it down is what I'm told to say. I am able to suppress it. Yes. And wear a mask of civility. Yes, and I turn those feelings, those feelings I'm tamping down, they all go into just shanking. Just cranking and shanking. Cranking.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Shanking. In any case, so that's, I believe the audience is caught up with our lives. Yes, both of us. We were both just forthcoming as all get out. We've had, what else has been going on? Midterms came and went. Ah, yeah. Democrats just keep crankin' and shankin'.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I noticed you wore one of those Ivo Ted stickers. Yeah. Did you wear one of those things? I found one. My wife had one, so I put it on. I felt like a real big man. Yeah, because you don't vote.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Fuck that, man. I didn't either. I just got the sticker. Yeah. I don't care. How'd you get that sticker, man? Was it like a sticker heist? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It was the great sticker heist of 2018. Who was your wheel man, bro? You mean the guy driving the car? Yeah. It was this elephant that I know. Wait a second. How did your car feel about that? Super jelly.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Wait, what were we talking about? We were talking about the election and the midterms. How did you feel about the old midterms there, Scott? You know, people, not that they care about how I felt about it, but I felt kind of weird about it the night of and have felt better about it since then. But yeah, you know. You see people, you know, I mean, look, this kind of ties into what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:30:34 REM is a very political band and they have advocated for social justice for many years. So it should not come as any surprise that you and I have leanings toward certain political leanings that we share with the band. I felt a little strange that people – there were people like the Steve Kings of the world who still get voted in. That was a bummer or the the dude in san diego who uh is under indictment or whatever you know like all these people they continue to get voted in and you kind of got to go like what is going on with humanity yeah there there are some things that were upsetting like steve king getting
Starting point is 00:31:19 re-elected after like what is happening what is happening with people white supremacist and people are cool with it and you get you just got to go like well there's the people who love after being a... Like, what is happening? What is happening with people? Everyone knows he's a white supremacist. And people are cool with it. And you just got to go like, well, there's the people who love it about him. And then there's the people who are like, yeah, he is, but I'm just going to look the other way. Yeah, and then there are people that don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And then there are people who don't know. You know? And they're just voting. And they're just like, who? Steve what? Yeah. I've heard of a queen, but king? They see Republican. I've heard of a twin bed, but king?
Starting point is 00:31:50 King. Is this a type of bed, a Steve King? Am I? Should I sleep tonight on a Steve King? Yeah, they just see an R and they go, they've been grown up saying, oh, yeah, vote R's. And they don't even know who they're voting for. Yeah. And that's, I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:08 That's fine. You can have anything in your brain when you go and vote. Whatever. Whatever. Just get out there and do it. Just do it. Unless you're a dumb shit. But on the other side of things, we got, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:18 That's how I started to feel better about things down the line. But the night, I had so much anxiety uh about it for what years for two years yes and i happen to have that day off um and so it just was a day of you know pushing my shoulders down trying to relax and then seeing the results come in it was just one of those things of like well there's a lot of great things going on. But there's still this section of humanity that is – the wheel turns, however, slowly. We went to our friend's house to watch The Returns. And actually, Jeff Ulrich was over there.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Ulrich, okay. Ulrich. That's fine. Really? Yeah. It's not Jeff Ulrich? It's Ulrich. Yeah. He'll be – by the way, he's very excited someone's talking about Really? Yeah. It's not Jeff Ulrich? It's Ulrich, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 He'll be, by the way, he's very excited someone's talking about him right now. So don't worry about mispronouncing his name. So I walked in and he, it was at the Lindelof's house. We walk in and Jeff and Damon are both just crestfallen sitting there because things were not looking particularly great early on. And so it was tough for the first like hour or so. It was tough. And then little by little. And you're like, hey, come on, where's the party at?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah, let's party. Let's fucking get wasted. Let's get the kids in the other room and let's snort Coke. So we, little by little, it started getting more and more. Started looking up. Yeah. And as it has for several weeks after. And it's just gotten better since.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Gotten better and better. Everything's good. But, you know, I mean, and some people, I know some people are out there going like, hey, Adam. Hey, Adam Scott Aukerman. We don't care about this kind of stuff from you. Yeah. But, you know, REM is, like we were saying, REM, that's a big part of their, I don't understand the people who can like REM and U2 and, you know, do the things like shut up and just play music. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah. And, I don't know, whatever. I mean, I wish you would shut up. Yeah. Oh,
Starting point is 00:34:33 I am constantly, it's weird how often people tell me to shut up. How often does that, realistically, realistically, I would, if I had to guess about you,
Starting point is 00:34:42 sure, just knowing you and knowing your friends and it seems like you hang out with these rich assholes, the Lindel I had to guess about you. Sure. Just knowing you and knowing your friends, and it seems like you hang out with these rich assholes, the Lindelofs and the all riches. Sure, sure, sure. I would guess three times a day that I'm told to shut up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 It's 5,000 times a day. 5,000 times a day. 5,000. How many of that is your children? They would never talk to me that way. Really? Yeah, they know better. They know better than to talk to me that way.
Starting point is 00:35:10 How much of that is Naomi? Quite a bit. Do the calculations here. I'm going to do, let's see here. 20%. 20%. 20%. We're talking 500 of those is this no one thousand bits
Starting point is 00:35:28 no it's not long bits unfortunately yeah it may be in there but um all right look what we're going to be doing today is we're going to be talking about rem at the bbc which is the new boxed set of um music that rem has come out with. Their first release, their first official. Yeah. Well, I guess they put out all the B-sides and all that was their last official release. Is that correct? No, the automatic box set was their last.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Oh, okay. Just a year ago. Yeah, I guess I mean non-reissue release. Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of new stuff on that. Oh, he's back. No, no, no, I'm just saying. Adam Scott is back.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I wondered how long it would take for him to lock in. But there was a ton of cool stuff. Unreleased stuff. I'd never heard. I don't know. But it is a reissue. I guess I mean like non- New stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:23 New stuff, yes. So it's their first since- It's been a long time. It's been a long time. So it's the first officially released new stuff, and we're all very excited about the release and listening to it, and you and I have both listened to it, and we are going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:36:40 There's a lot of material here. There's a lot of stuff. It's an eight CD boxed set along with a DVD. I didn't get the DVD. All I have is the MP3s. I don't, yeah, I would love to see. Also, I would love to see all the artwork and stuff because Chris Bilheimer, I'm assuming, did this.
Starting point is 00:36:56 At least the cover is terrific. We should get Chris Bilheimer on the show and maybe he should bring some copies for us. A thousand box sets. I think I was trying to say earlier in the show, we he should bring you know some copies for us a thousand box sets I think I was trying to say earlier in the show we tried to get advanced copies from the band
Starting point is 00:37:10 through Earwolf here did we try? we did try turned down flat really? yeah not interested okay
Starting point is 00:37:17 because we were going to cover it and try to get this episode out to you a little earlier yeah yeah yeah along with the release but in any case we are going to be going through the the Yeah, yeah, yeah. We will be right back after this.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Hey, Adam, we have new shirts. What? New shirts in the store. Which I love the shirts so far for Are You Talking R.E.M. Remy. What's this one? This one is replicates. You know those shirts that have the two hands that are sort of like intertwined coming from? Do I know those shirts?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yes, I know those shirts. Okay, the famous shirt. We did a take on it where it's our famous auxiliary cord trick where it's one of us offering the auxiliary cord to the other and then pulling it away. So our most famous visual gag from a podcast. From a podcast that no one has seen. It is just, people have had to imagine it. We now have a drawing of it. So if you want a t-shirt that you have to explain to every single person you come in contact with. And that is every t-shirt that we have sold.
Starting point is 00:38:42 All of our t-shirts. Yes. But this one, maybe even more so. Maybe even more. Although I think most people would look at it and just go, oh, cool shirt. Yeah. Much like the other one. The other ones you need like a full explanation.
Starting point is 00:38:52 You want a jet ski. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But these are available now over at PodSwag. So they're available now. They just came out today. So head on over to PodSwag.com and you can get those shirts some of our previous shirts i think we still have shirts uh available from our previous shirts go check them out uh and be the first on your block and probably only person on your block to wear one of these
Starting point is 00:39:14 and have to constantly explain it to all of your friends have fun with that pod swag.com Welcome back Are you talking REM Remy? Gonna be talking about REM's BBC box set that just came out but before we get to that by the way
Starting point is 00:39:39 Scott Aukerman here Adam Scott over there Hey You didn't say hello to anyone other than me at the top of the episode Adam Scott over there you didn't say hello to anyone other than me at the top of the episode any shout outs you want to give
Starting point is 00:39:51 it's funny that you say that yes actually I would like to say hello to to my family sure who do we got a bunch of them
Starting point is 00:40:04 I would like to say hello to my them. I'd like to say hello to my friends. Great. I'd like to say hello to my fans. I would like to say hello to my non-fans. Sure. The haters. They don't care for me or my work. They actively dislike you.
Starting point is 00:40:24 They actively dislike you. Actively dislike me. I would like to say hello to you. Thank you so much. Yeah. And I'm not part of any of those groups. We'll see. I'm not family, certainly. I'm not friends, certainly.
Starting point is 00:40:41 No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not a fan of your work, certainly. No, no, no, no. I feel like I'm in that other group, certainly. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not a fan of your work, certainly. No, no, no, no. I feel like I'm in that other group, though. The actively dislike and rooting against me? Yep. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:40:56 There have to be people out there who are like, God damn it, when is he going to get his comeuppance? That guy deserves it. I know there are for me. You do? Of course, yeah. You've confirmed this. People who really begrudge any success that I may have and go, he doesn't deserve this. Fuck, when is it my turn?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Well, I'm sure they're out there for me as well. But you have such a, I don't want to say, I guess, non-impactful career. Why would anyone have an opinion about it? Before we get to talking about REM at the BBC, which is the new box set, just came out a few weeks ago, I did, Adam... 104 songs. That's too many. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:41:41 It's a lot. 100, that would be about right. Sure. Why an extra four? I do want to go through the old REM mailbag. Oh, yeah. You want to take a trip through the REM mailbag? Yeah, let's open that sucker up, huh?
Starting point is 00:41:54 We've gotten, even though we had sort of a cutoff of mail where we said, oh, don't send us any more mail because we can't talk about it. The mailbag has continued to fill. Wow. A lot of people still send in us stuff. I love it. We can't talk about it with the the mailbag has continued to fill wow um a lot of people still sending us stuff and uh love it we can't go through them all there's actually i i i have it at home this came like the day after our last episode and i took it home and i have uh transferred everything onto my computer and stuff but i i i was rushing out the door today because i was a wee bit late,
Starting point is 00:42:25 and I didn't bring the letter, but someone, and I swear I'll get that person's name at some point, but they sent a zip drive full of reimaginings of all of R.E.M.'s recent albums, like re-sequencings, cutting out choruses to make them shorter. It was really interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:46 You mean all the post-Bill Barry stuff? I think it was through post-Monster, it felt like. Okay. And they retitled them to similar like Down or I'm trying to think of what another one would be. Like Around the Sun, it would be like, you know, Near the Sun. You know, just like slightly off and did album art and all this kind of stuff. And they mailed this in. This is something.
Starting point is 00:43:09 They mailed this in. And I took it home and I put it in my computer. And I haven't gone through all of them, but it was very interesting. It was really, it was a lot like what we would do of re-sequencing sometimes. But they went the extra mile of like literally trying to change some of the songs in order to make them shorter. Huh. It was really interesting, but I don't know that person's name, so I apologize. It's been three months since we've done an episode, and in that time, I have probably lost the letter.
Starting point is 00:43:32 And did you listen to this? I listened to a little bit of it, and I was fascinated by it, but I have not had time to really do a deep dive. But so we're going to – some of the stuff that's in front of me here, dive but um so we're gonna uh some of the stuff that's in front of me here uh uh chevin over there has uh uh sifted through some of the mail and and given me some of the more um um some of the items that took a little while to actually uh achieve what they have so i wanted to go through some of them and okay this is i'm gonna lead with the most uh incredible one i don't i don't mean to judge them all in terms of incredibleness but uh this has a lot in it this is from uh richard pepper richard pepper a fan from kansas city he works at an art studio in downtown kansas city named imagine that imagine that kc.org which uh wonderful, all of which have mental illness and or developmental disabilities.
Starting point is 00:44:28 They create art, finding new ways for them to express themselves creatively. And he sent us, first of all, sent us a nice booklet, four page booklet of a lot of info talking about how our show has both a U2 show. He was a huge U2 fan and did not have any friends to talk about it with. Oh, that's cool. And our show came to him at a certain point in his life where he needed a little pick-me-up, and it helped him get back on his feet a little bit.
Starting point is 00:45:02 That's awesome. So you can read that. But that was really nice. But then he also includes such things as he – really wonderful artist. He made a single for How Does It Feel When You're In R.E.M. Which, by the way, do we have that song anywhere? Engineer Ryan's over here. His brow immediately furrowed. Like, where the fuck would that be?
Starting point is 00:45:27 I know it's been a few months, but if you can find it, I would love to. Like, he made a tangible. So a tangible single for this. Now, I was like, is there a CD inside? Okay, inside there is a, there's this, which has liner notes, a little thing. Oh my God. And then there's the sleeve which uh i was like is there a cd what's in here you open it up he made a fake single as well oh my it's like very
Starting point is 00:45:55 very detailed really incredible um so that's produced by doniman, engineered by engineer Cody Cody, mixed by Don Dixon. Yeah, some great fake credits. He also included, he, much like us, likes to. This is so cool. He, like us, likes to. Can I see the rest of the single? Yeah, yeah, here you go. He likes to take albums that are sort of, he feels are, need improvement and add bonus tracks and reshuffle
Starting point is 00:46:27 the order, resequence. And so he included a lot of his resequencing for Rattle and Hum, Actung Baby, Pop, Songs of Experience. And also, he's a big Nine Inch Nails fan, I guess. So he included the last three EPs. He put them into one album. So he included these with a lot of artwork. This is so great. And I like that the B-side for How Does It Feel When You're In R.E.M. is White Tornado.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Yes, which is our theme song, yes. He also included a DVD of a 2005 Cribs fake Cribs episode he made where he plays Bono. That he really did make. Yeah, he made it.
Starting point is 00:47:12 So I haven't watched this yet, but that's interesting. He included a cassette of something called SummerSlam. I don't know what it is. Oh, and look at this. He made a little pop-up of you talking you two to me of us on stage.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah. Incredible stuff. And this guy has a program where he helps. He works with artists, yes. Oh, my God. Yeah, in Kansas City. So check out that organization because apparently in the letter he says they don't get a lot of support. What's the organization?
Starting point is 00:47:52 It's right there in the – it's in black there. I believe it was – It's called Imagine That and it's at imaginethatkc.org. Imaginethatkc.org. So I would suggest that you and I go take a little website trip over there and check it out. This is incredible stuff from Richard Pepper that he sent us. He also sent an ad for the Us Festival in 1983. No way.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Yeah, that you were actually at. That's the one you went to. It's an original ad from paper. Is there a place we could put up photos of this stuff? Yes, we should. This is unbelievable. Let's make some photos of all of this artwork and put it up with this episode because it's really. This is.
Starting point is 00:48:34 The pop-up thing that he made is incredible. Some really great stuff. So thank you, Richard. And we're happy that you have enjoyed the show. And thank you so much for that. Wow. okay. The S Festival 1983 returns to Glen Helen Regional Park, San Bernardino, California. Is that where it was?
Starting point is 00:48:59 You came all the way down here to Glen Helen? Yeah, I remember breathing hurt because the smog was so bad. Do you remember the smog back then? is uh yeah i do remember and just glen helen in general is a pretty grim area yeah i've been to several shows there day one twenty dollars per this is a place where you can you can order tickets through the mail with this ad from a magazine. $20 per day. $20 per day. How many days? Three? Wow, it's four days because the next weekend
Starting point is 00:49:30 there was one day of country music. Do you want to hear the lineup for the three days? Three days at the US Festival. And did you go to all three days? Yes. And how much of it do you remember? I'll tell you the bands I remember.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Okay, Saturday, May 28th. It starts late morning, like around 11, 10, 11. Like a normal festival, I guess. You want me to explain a music festival? Sure. Divinals, Wall of Voodoo, Oingo Boingo, Flock of Seagulls, English Beat. I remember English Beat. Stray Cats.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Stray Cats is right when it got dark. I totally remember that. Men at Work. I totally remember that. The Clash, we had gone back to our tent and gone to sleep. Gone to sleep. You went night-night. I was like nine years old.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Who was about to break up. But it was dark and The Cl clash, it started getting like- Kind of dangerous. Turning into a very adult atmosphere. I do remember that. A lot of people fucking. That's right. Day two, Motley Crue, Joe Walsh, Ozzy Osbourne.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I remember Ozzy Osbourne. It scared me. That was during the day. Judas Priest, Triumph, Scorpions, and then it ended with Van Halen. Wow. Now, I remember Van Halen, you could hear them,
Starting point is 00:50:53 and I remember Eddie Van Halen trashing The Clash. Oh, yeah, clashing the trash. He said The Clash sucks or something like that. I remember that. And what I like about this lineup is that they do it thematically by types of music. So you could dip out on that day or vice versa. It's weird that Joe Walsh was on the metal day, though.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Well, he's sort of classic rock. I think it's more the classic rock slash metal day. Yeah, I guess. Day three on Monday, May 30th starts with Berlin. Then U2. There they are. Quarter Flash, Missing Persons, John Cougar, Stevie Nicks, The Pretenders, and David Bowie. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Do you remember any of them? Or did you go home? Because we went home on this day, but I do remember that day Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul played. I guess they weren't booked yet when this ad was made. We were backstage for that. Oh! Little Stephen. Yeah he had a this is when he was not in the E Street band anymore.
Starting point is 00:51:56 That's right. I went to see, speaking of him, I went to see Springsteen on Broadway recently and he was the understudy for Springsteen. Springsteen couldn't make it and he just came out andy for Springsteen. Springsteen couldn't make it. And he just came out and talked. So how was it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:07 He just came out and played Sun City 38 times. Wow. That sounds really fun. So thank you to Richard Pepper. Thank you very much. Going through some more of the mailbag. Josh Borg sent us some stuff. He sent us a couple of CDs.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And he also, I guess he was a production assistant on the Run, Ronnie Run movie when I made that out in Georgia. Oh, that's cool. And he sent the script that Bob and David, the title page of the script that Bob and David both signed and wants me to sign it. And I'm going to decide whether I'm going to do that or not. Let's set it on fire. Let's burn it. Yeah, fuck yeah um so thank you to him um let's see who is this from this is from trevor robinson trevor robinson sent us uh a page out of something uh called the 80s according to michael stipe and michael Stipe wrote basically a little list
Starting point is 00:53:05 of his favorite recordings from the 80s. I don't know if you've seen this, but kind of interesting. Is it from a magazine or something? It's from some sort of a book or a magazine. So you have, he lists any, this is everything, his favorite recordings of the 1980s, which is a decade which he does not seem to like other than musically.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Anything by Arvo Part, he says. Who's that? I don't know. Is this like his book of haikus that he was delivering? Mesopotamia by the B-52s. Fantastic. Anything by the Cramps. Wings of Desire soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Oh, yeah. Doolittles by the Pixies. Armed Forces by Elvis Costello and the Attractions from 1979, he lists. But he just had to fit it in there, didn't he? Fugazi, Margin Walker, Gang of Four, Songs of the Free, Miracle Legion, Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. Billy Bragg, Talking with the Taxman about Poetry. Psycho Candy by the Jesus and Mary Jane. Anyway, a lot of stuff uh that i
Starting point is 00:54:05 think you would find interesting so thank you to trevor robinson let's see what else in my tribe by ten thousand and yeah there he is rain dogs tom waits okay some good oh sign of the time sprints yep what do you think you keep doing this i do did you listen to side of the times by the way since we talked about it's very good it's very good um andy thompson from michigan writes us and uh says he's a big fan of the podcast and both of its iterations uh he's talking about i love film and i love films um and he also similar to my story was caught listening to the Dead Milkman's Life is Shit by his father and was chastised for it and includes a couple of T-shirts that he made.
Starting point is 00:54:53 So let's check these out. I want to show them to you. We have, here is a picture of Brian Eno, and it says Old Sourpuss underneath, which is very nice. Where did these come from? He made these. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:07 And then we also have the scary one T-shirt. It's the monster logo, and it says the scary one, and then Harium underneath. That's great. A couple of T-shirts, so thank you so much. That's so cool. For those, and one last thing, we have Ari DeNero. DeNero.
Starting point is 00:55:28 DeNero. What do you think? Is Ari he or is she, I wonder? What should I say? They. I'll just say they. That's how we take care of it these days. They write and say that they really liked the April Richardson Scary One episode and was really stoked to hear us discuss zine making.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Oh, cool. And included three copies of a zine that they made about Harry M and wanted us to have them and to give one to April. So next time I see April, I will give that to them. So a lot of really great artists. This is so great, you guys. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. It brightens our day for the five minutes that we look at these things before they go in the old circular file. What?
Starting point is 00:56:25 The trash can. No, of course. We're going to treasure these forever. I've already just talked about someone who sent us something that has been sitting on my desk for months now at this point. Yeah. So, of course, we keep all these. Thank you to all of our listeners. We have even more than that.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Maybe we'll talk about it if we ever do another episode after this. But thank you to everyone who our listeners. We have even more than that. Maybe we'll talk about it if we ever do another episode after this. Yeah. But thank you to everyone who sent stuff. It really means the world to us that you enjoy this show. So thank you so much. I think we have to take another break.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Yeah, bro. Let us do that. And when we come back, we are going to be talking exclusively about the band Hariem and their recent release, Hariem at the HeBC. We will be right back with more Are You Talking to Hariem? Remi.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Hey, Adam. Yeah. I know I talk about it in the body of the show, but I wanted to do a little ad here for PCAST Blast. Oh, yeah, Adam. Yeah. I know I talk about it in the body of the show, but I wanted to do a little ad here for PCAST Blast. Oh, yeah, please. PCAST Blast 2018, the second year. We had a ball doing it last year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:33 It's basically what it is. Does that mean a good or bad time? I had a testicle. Oh. Doing it. Yeah. How this came about was I wanted to do, like, an end-of-the-year comedy bang-bang show at the Ace Hotel where we had a great show there a few years back on the comedy bang-bang tour. But I thought like, you know, what would be cooler is if I got a lot of my favorite podcasts and we just did an all-day thing.
Starting point is 00:58:00 So we did it the first time last year. It was awesome. I had a really good time. And so this year I wanted to do it with all new shows, different shows other than comedy bang-bang. So we did it the first time last year. It was awesome. I had a really good time. And so this year I wanted to do it with all new shows, different shows other than Comedy Bang Bang. So it's a Comedy Bang Bang show with myself and Paul F. Tompkins and Lauren Lapkus and then other special guests. But the supporting shows are the Andy Daly Pilot Podcast Project. Great.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Andy Daly, amazing, and is going to do one of his favorite characters for this. We also have- Which one? Do you know? I do know, but I cannot say. He is, goddammit, that guy's funny. So then we also have Doughboys with Mitch and Nick. Oh, cool. Reviewing restaurants.
Starting point is 00:58:40 We have Throwing Shade, which is a great show. We have Off Book. I'm really excited about this. Off Book, the improvised musical. Oh, that's cool. They're going to improvise a musical with a piano player and band right on stage for you. Fun. With a special guest.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And we have Teacher's Lounge, which is one of the funniest shows on Stitcher Premium with Big Grande, Drew Tarver, and everyone there. It's so funny. Drew's so funny. So that is a really good lineup. This is Saturday, December 15th at the Theater at the Ace Hotel here in LA. Tickets are still available, but they're going to sell out. So get them while you can. I think there are still VIP tickets available where you can meet everyone from the Earwolf family.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I wouldn't recommend that one. Yeah. I mean, you know, just. You're going to be awkward. I'm going to be awkward. Take a pass. Let's just take a pass. Just get a normal ticket. So go buy tickets.
Starting point is 00:59:30 You can get them at the Theater at the Ace Hotel website. Go check it out. Bye. Bye. Hey, Adam. Yeah. New podcast alert. What?
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah. This is the sound that when a new podcast alert comes out. Wee. Wee. Wee. Wee. Conan O' wee. Wee, wee. Conan O'Brien, you know Conan, don't you? Yeah, you've been on his show.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Yes. How many times? I don't know, but I love me some Conan. Isn't that interesting that what a career milestone it probably was the first time, and now you're like, who even knows how many times I've been on it? I was so nervous. Yeah? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:00:04 He and Letterman, it was definitely an event in my life. An event for you to get on. One that I have not achieved for either of them. But, you know, I mean, I was on the Seth Meyers show. Not that you want to be on either of those shows. Why? It's not something you want or need. Not something I want? want no you don't care
Starting point is 01:00:27 um well anyway he has a new podcast out oh that is so exciting yes just came out this week um and he was on bang bang to talk about it and it sounds it literally sounds fascinating sometimes you have to promote something that's like oh yeah maybe that'll be good or whatever but it sounds so interesting uh i really want to hear it um so what what's the idea okay so he has a new podcast coming to earwolf conan o'brien needs a friend and as he described it to me he uh has had people on his show so often that and and we related on this because this happens to me too, or it happened to me with the TV show. You'd have someone on the couch and you talk to them.
Starting point is 01:01:09 For me, I would talk to them for a good six hours because it took a while to film mine. But for Conan, you know, he's talking to them for whatever. But you think to yourself, like, I like this person so much. I bet we could be friends. And then they get up and they walk away and they don't become your friend. So that happened to me several times on the show where I was like, oh man, and because I have, you know, social anxiety or whatever, I could never say like, hey, could I get your email or whatever, you know?
Starting point is 01:01:37 And so they just get up and they walk away. So what Conan wanted to do is have a podcast where he goes and and tries to make friend like real friendships with these people so he hangs out with some of the favorite guests from his show his first guest is will ferrell who is just a delight um and uh so that that's incredible upcoming guests uh include wanda sykes kristin bell and your buddy uh nick offer. Yeah. Who had a famous drop on our show saying that you're not funny. Conan also answers all the questions callers are dying to know, like the secret to his hair and his favorite Star Wars prequel. So, yeah, I'm really looking forward to listening to this.
Starting point is 01:02:17 This sounds, this is exciting. I cannot wait. In the first episode with Will Ferrell, they talk about the last time Conan was on stage with Ron Burgundy, how Twitter makes them feel, and that one Lifetime movie that Will rather made with Kristen Wiig. Did you see that? I did.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I had it on my DVR forever, and I never saw it. Is it good? It's great. It's great. Check out the first episode of Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend with Will Ferrell in your favorite podcast app, and subscribe so you don't miss an episode welcome back are you talking rem me getting in just uh under the wire of uh november and um do you have Thanksgiving plans?
Starting point is 01:03:07 Adam? Yes. Do you? No. All right. Well, by the way, in case I forget to do it at the end of the show, fans of this show will be interested in
Starting point is 01:03:21 a little festival that this is the second year that I put it together, the PCAST Blast here in Los Angeles. Podcast, live podcast festival. Oh, yeah. I heard about this. December 15th at the theater at the Ace Hotel. We have Comedy Bang Bang, which is my other show, with myself, Lauren Lapkus, Paul F. Tompkins, many special guests. We have the Andy Daly Podcast Pilot Project.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Andy Daly podcast pilot project. Andy Daly has been on our U2 show several times, and he has something really cool scheduled and planned for that. We also have Doughboys, Throwing Shade, Off Book, the Improvised Musical, and Teacher's Lounge. All of that for one ticket. You can see all of those shows, and it's really fun. We did it last year. It was super fun.
Starting point is 01:04:04 So come out to the PCAST Blast 2018, Saturday, December 15th, at the Theater at the Ace Hotel here in Los Angeles, California. Will you be there, Adam? Sure, I'll go. Sounds cool. Yeah, it is cool. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:22 We should get to it, huh? Yeah. What are you typing over there? Nothing. I'll stop. Can you hear that? A little bit. Is it cool?
Starting point is 01:04:30 It's really cool. Are you writing a great American novel? Yeah. What do you got so far? Can you read back any of it? Sure. This is what I've written so far in this email. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Thanks. What would we be looking at for a... And then that's as far as... For a... Oh. That's exciting. What would we be looking at for a and then that's as far as a oh that's exciting what would we be looking at i don't know what we read that's why i'm asking all right we have to get to it let's talk about hariam at the hebe hebe yeah uh this let's talk about about generally what it is first. I don't have the Wikipedia in front of me, but I will look it up right now. But this is an eight CD set. of REM's output that was broadcast upon the BBC radio network out there in merry old England.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Yeah. This, but the actual, and it's 104 songs like we said, the actual thing is weird because it's not really in any order. It is, I figured out what the order is. Do you want to know what the order is? Please do. I'm going to pour a little bit bit i poured water into my coffee glass and i got a little coffee flavored water and that's how's this one is it it sure sounds great that's just pure water
Starting point is 01:05:55 okay here's the order it's eight cds and i figured out i was at first glance you're like what the fuck they're jumping around from year to year what is it okay here's what they do disc one they lead with and this is like the prime stuff
Starting point is 01:06:11 this is in the shortened version of this if you only buy like a two CD set of this this is this is like the entirety of disc one
Starting point is 01:06:18 so this is like the crown jewels okay okay this is what they lead with this is the everything that rem did exclusively in recording sessions for the bbc without an audience there so so all of disc one does not
Starting point is 01:06:35 have an audience it's all it's all like pristine recordings of these songs without people clapping over it without crowd noise like the the John Peel session and stuff? So it starts off with a session from 1991 where they do six songs. Then they do a John Peel session from 1998 where they do four songs. Then they do 2003. They have a couple of songs from there. They have a couple of songs from 2003 from a different session. And then it closes out with a couple of songs from there. They have a couple of songs from 2003 from a different session, and then it closes out with a couple of songs from 2008.
Starting point is 01:07:09 So that's chronological of all of their stuff without crowd noise over it. That was recorded exclusively for it. Okay. Then disc two is an hour, and it is another session just recorded for the BBC in their studio, but it does have a crowd there. And that's from 1998. And so that is all songs that they're doing. They're in the studio, but a crowd is there,
Starting point is 01:07:38 and there's people yelling and cheering and all that kind of stuff then the next six discs are chronological of concerts that rem was already doing that bbc just broadcast does that make sense yes they were just yeah because there's the monster show that's like at so it starts arena yeah so it starts with 1984 although it goes all the way back to 1984 for a show in England that the BBC just broadcast live while it was happening. Then it goes to two discs of The Monster from 95,
Starting point is 01:08:16 which was they were in an arena. Then it goes to their Glastonbury for two discs in 1999. And then the very last one is a live concert that they did in a church in 2004. And that is the, I guess they just did that one exclusively for the BBC. But it wasn't in their recording studio. So I think they did it in this. So does that make sense to you?
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah, totally. I'm so glad you figured that because I thought it was such a bizarre. Such a bizarre, like it went all over the place in terms of you. But it really doesn't now. Yeah. Let's see what's happening. Okay. So knowing that, let's talk about, we both have listened to the entirety of this.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah. Is that true? Yeah. I believe I may have dipped out on the last disc. I didn't listen to the entirety of Losing My Religion. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Any surprises on that one? Because Losing My Religion,
Starting point is 01:09:08 I think they have six versions of on this or something. Yeah, you don't. I didn't need to hear. No. I was kind of like, you know what? You're good. I'm probably good on Losing My Religion, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:17 So what do we think about coming from a true Harium superfan, is this a treasure trove? Is this a little bit of chaff with the wheat? What do we have? It's a little bit of of everything. I mean, you know
Starting point is 01:09:35 for a lot of it like the the opening disc with the from 91 with all the unplugged stuff it's very similar to There's six songs from 91,ged stuff it's very similar to six songs from 91 yeah
Starting point is 01:09:46 it's very similar to unplugged the bingo handjob stuff it's from that era where they were where they were like kind of acoustic-y uh although what's good about these six songs is there's no crowd noise so it's just pristine these pristine versions of like love is all around which previously we've only had with people cheering over it well there oh no there is the studio yeah but you know it is great because that's a really great period for them when they're redefining themselves as this like acoustic folk band um so they're great they're great versions um so six songs of them doing basically their sort of coffee shop acoustic setup uh of stuff from out of time yeah and it flashes forward seven years and you have four
Starting point is 01:10:33 songs from the up era which are with a full band yeah you have walk unafraid day sleeper lotus and at my most beautiful uh-huh pretty standard versions of what they were doing. Yeah, it was from that same era. Have we had much live stuff officially released from that era? I don't. I'm trying to remember. Yeah, I don't know that I've heard a lot of it. So that was kind of interesting. I know
Starting point is 01:10:57 I have that one MTV concert they did that Dave Holmes was talking about. Yes. I do have that. I bought a promotional CD. I found it somewhere. So I do have these songs from that same era, which are good. I like hearing those up songs right when they were fresh and they were opening up live. So it's the live versions without crowd noise.
Starting point is 01:11:19 So it's good to hear those. Right. Then from 2003, which I think it must have been their Best of REM tour, right? Yes. You have Bad Day, Orange Crush, Man on the Moon, and Imitation of Life. Yeah. Which are cool versions of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:34 That was for them touring a Best Of album, which was, I think, a little bit of a course correction. A potentially cringey moment for fans. Oh, right. Like you're touring a best of album. Yeah. It was, they were playing so well that it more than justified the tour. And these are all great versions. That would be a great spinoff of Justified.
Starting point is 01:12:01 More than Justified. More than Justified. Who would it be about? Who on Justified? Well, I hope it would be about Timothy Olyphant, who, by the way, I saw at a party recently. I had a very nice conversation with him where we talked about being fellow contributors to the morning show at Indie 103.1, which is how Comedy Bang Bang started. He did sports, yes. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:21 And I was like, I said, hey, I i have to say it was one of those like celebrity encounters where i was talking to him i think i talked to him for like a good two minutes before i realized who he was yeah but once i did realize who he was i was like oh hey i gotta tell you and it was one of those things where i i feel like he was like oh boy what you love justified you love whatever right i was like we both were on the Indy 103.1 morning show. And his face lit up, and we talked for like 20 minutes about it, about how fun it was being on it. So he was happy that he didn't have to talk about it. Talk about Justin. Scream 2.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, nice dude. Okay, and then— I did love Justified, though. That was a great show. Disc 1 closes with a couple. This was really interesting. So from 2008, from the Accelerate promotional times, two acoustic versions. One of the Supernatural Super Serious, which is the only acoustic version of that song I've ever heard. See, this is the first, for me, the first moment on this where I was like, wow.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Here's a gem. Yes. first for me the first moment on this where i was like oh wow here's a gem yes something i've because like i said on the accelerate episode they released all these videos of them busking leading up to the release of accelerate um and them playing all of the accelerate songs acoustically just in front of storefronts and stuff and those videos have all been scrubbed they're gone. They're disappeared as well as those versions. So have all the episodes of Scrubs. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:13:49 They've all been scrubbed. Can I get the thing so I can hear this? There you go. Fuck you. So yeah, let's hear a little bit of the Supernatural Super Serious. The acoustic, it sounds like bongos maybe. In my memory, it sounds like bongos. I listened to it this morning. In your memory, it sounds like bongos maybe. In my memory, it sounds like bongos.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I listened to it this morning. In your memory, it sounds like bongos. Doesn't everything in your memory sound like bongos? It's just completely like, bop-a-da, bop-a-da, bop-a-da, bop-a-da. Okay, here we go. Oh, really? Here we go?
Starting point is 01:14:16 Or here we don't go? It's waiting for your Wi-Fi to help it out here. Why does it need to be on Wi-Fi? It doesn't. Oh, because you're streaming. Yes. help it out here. Why does it need to be on Wi-Fi? It doesn't. Oh, because you're streaming. Yes. Okay. Everybody here
Starting point is 01:14:28 comes from somewhere that they would just as soon forget and disguise. At the summer camp where you volunteer No one saw your face, no one saw your fear At that apparition it just appeared Took you up and away from the space and sheer Humiliation of your teenage station nobody cares
Starting point is 01:15:08 no one remembers and nobody cares oh you cried and you cried he's alive he's alive oh you cried and you cried and you cried and you cried it's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, a different take on that.
Starting point is 01:15:31 A new take on an old favorite. I love it. Love it, love it. And then the second song from that session is, now we played a little bit of this on a previous episode, but when I played it on this episode, I realized, oh, the sound quality is really bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Cause I think that I must have taped it off of the computer somehow or something, or, or, or I got an MP3 from someone who did that for whatever reason. So for whatever reason, yeah, it sounded kind of like shit.
Starting point is 01:15:57 So I was like, uh, happy to see that there's a crystal clear version of it, uh, on this set. It is, uh, their cover of the editor's song, Munich, which can you play a little bit of that? Yeah. You'd probably have to turn it up as well.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Okay, there we go. Yeah. I'm so glad I found this. I'm so glad that I did. I'm so glad that I found this. I'm so glad that I did. People are fragile things you should know. What was that? Email, Sam? Yes. We should make it clear that's not on the recording.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Sorry about that you'll speak when you're spoken to it break so that's pretty cool that's great did you ever like editors or i never got into editors i was into them because of uh that sort of early 2000s interpol slash kind of strokesy you know like return to joy division-y sounds and stuff. I was super into the Strokes. What was that, man? I need to turn off these notifications. But I never got into Editors.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Yeah, but I still love the Strokes. So that was REM returning the favor because Editors did a version of Orange Crush. Similarly, I believe. Jesus Christ. I got to turn this shit off. Just unplug it or something. the favor because editors did a version of orange crush uh similarly i believe jesus christ just unplug it or something uh uh they they were returning the favor editors did orange crush and talked about how influential rem was to them and i believe uh at the time 2006 you know six or what have you not a lot of people talking about R.E.M. as an influence. So I think it was, from what I could tell,
Starting point is 01:18:09 it was very nice for R.E.M. to hear someone who was in the major music news at the time, especially in Great Britain, talking about them as an influence. So they did a cover of their song. Which is weird because if you do listen to Early Strokes, it sounds like they were certainly influenced by early R.E.M. stuff,
Starting point is 01:18:32 you know, all that. Especially if you barely know any other music other than R.E.M. That's not true. So you know what's weird? Is this next... Al Yankovic? This next John Peel session,
Starting point is 01:18:44 is it the same one as the one from before? No, this is one with an audience. So this is like a complete, they do an hour, they do 13 songs with an audience present, like in the studio, like it sounds like about 50 people or something. Do you want to play, they start with Losing My Religion. Do you want to play a little bit of that so you can hear? Maybe New Test Leopard just because yeah okay kind of a different yeah so this is from 98 and uh this is yeah it sounds like about i don't know 150 people maybe something like that
Starting point is 01:19:15 maybe 170 160 i think it's no more than 150 no it's 160 are you wait are you counting the 10 people out to the side of the stage i was no oh no no no i'm saying in the actual audience okay 150 so so the other so they did like two john Peel sessions in one year. In one year, yeah. One was on October 25, and oh, same day. So they did, basically, when they were there in England,
Starting point is 01:19:53 they did like a John Peel session in the studio, and then they did this concert kind of thing. Weird. So the sound quality on this is not as good as the so i think that's weird that's why disc one is like the major you know like this is the good stuff i mean this barely sounds like soundboard it sounds like it's almost very echoey yeah let's see if any other songs sound better like you want to try perfect circle yep all right we're gonna dig way back into the plasticine era before anyone even imagined this is a full concert too it's pretty long
Starting point is 01:20:35 it's an hour i wouldn't say it's a full concert but usually concerts that i go to are you know three four hours i only see bruce springsteen you only go to bruce springsteen and Pink Floyd concerts. It's nice to hear him do a perfect circle at a time when they weren't doing a lot of old stuff. Yeah, it still kind of sounds distant. It's pretty far away. Okay, so that disc is sort of a miss for me.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Yeah, I mean, I like the playing, Disc is sort of a miss for me. Yeah. I mean, I like the playing, but it doesn't sound great. Little Muffet. Yeah. It's a miss. All right. So Disc 3, then this is the stretch of concerts that the BBC broadcasts. So this goes all the way back to 1984, and this is what a period.
Starting point is 01:21:24 This is pretty great. This is some good shit. Do you want me to just play the first song here? Yeah, just play it. So this is a full hour of them just tearing through. Hi, Pete Drummond here with this week's in concert, which comes from Rock City, Annapolis, and stars those boys from Athens, Georgia. Those boys from Athens, Georgia.
Starting point is 01:21:43 This sounds good, too. Well, in Delta vocals, yeah. georgia this sounds good too well well and delta vocals yeah the good see the good thing about this set though is, is it replaces... A lot of people have had these just basically off of tapes. They tape recorded it. I remember when I was young, K-Rock did a Halloween concert of Oingo Boingo that I taped off the radio. And I had it for years and years. And then I've had now the... I have it on MP3, and they do a lot of unreleased songs,
Starting point is 01:22:28 like I was a teenage monster and stuff. And it's just kind of great to get a real version of it. Yeah, oh God. And I think, don't they release on Reckoning or Murmur and the Deluxe Edition has one of these concerts as well? Yeah, it's kind of great. And then they played Fables songs that hadn't been released yet.
Starting point is 01:22:53 It's like they were brand new songs at the time. Yeah, so this is from November 21, 1984. So this is Auctioneer before it was, Oh, there you go. He just says it right there. That's pretty, pretty cool. Pretty cool. And you know what I love about this period too is like you you look at the track listing they close with carnival of sorts boxcars which is like
Starting point is 01:23:31 all the rest of them because they're post out of time they close with you know end of the world as we know it or losing my religion or man on the moon you know this is back before they had any hits and they're like hey let's close with our earliest song um so great so great to hear them just you know ripping it up yeah uh in the early 80s um so that's a fun disc so it's interesting that is followed by so then they massively forward in time to 1995 to the Monster Tour. Yeah, and this is just as big as they ever got. Here it is in a giant arena. It's exactly 10 years later, 11 years.
Starting point is 01:24:18 This sounds like about 170 people. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. So, this is two discs because they played for almost two hours. And what I thought was really interesting about this, because I haven't heard any of the concerts from the Monster. Did you go see these shows, the Monster tour? A few times, yeah. So what I really liked about it was hearing some of their, so the Monster, we've talked extensively about the Monster album,
Starting point is 01:24:58 the scary one, about the sound of it. Yes. I love it when a band goes out and does a tour and then does some of their older songs with the new sound. Yeah. So Drive was the first one. They do a monster arrangement of Drive. Can we hear a little bit of that with the loud guitars and everything?
Starting point is 01:25:18 Yeah. They did this at the MTV Awards too. Did they now? Yeah. All right, here's another song. Smith, Krem, Wiltshire Time to the rest, baby A muscular version of this. Yeah, on the MTV Awards, they did Everybody Hurts,
Starting point is 01:25:52 and then kicked into this and surprised everybody. Oh, wow. I was there, actually. I got to go. Why do they call it, when things have loud guitars, they call it muscular? I don't know. You just called it that.
Starting point is 01:26:04 I know, but it's like a David. That's like a David Frick type. David Frick and Frick. I know. His like adjectives for guitars. Muscular, angular. It's like, come on. I love his, when he writes about music like that.
Starting point is 01:26:15 I don't think it's. But when you think about it, it's like what? Like just because it's like. Because that's muscly. A little louder. Yeah. And their try not to Breathe is pretty great too. Yeah, let's hear that.
Starting point is 01:26:26 I love having this monster show. Because previously they hadn't really put one out. Well, they haven't done a reissue of Monster yet. Yeah. yeah so definitely pretty great so yeah it definitely uh not having heard any of this era live. It was cool, right? I enjoyed these two. And you know what? I like it when a band, when they're still, when they come out and they're not, here's what happens.
Starting point is 01:27:15 When a band has been together for a long time, before the tour starts, they go into rehearsals. They do like maybe a week of rehearsals, right? uh before the tour starts they go into rehearsals they do like maybe a week of rehearsals right and a lot of bands when they've been together for a long time they are so either sick of being around each other or they're just like they don't want to rehearse for a long time they just slip into the old arrangement whatever works on previous tours yes you find that like honestly i feel like radiohead they were experimenting with uh songs up until like Hail to the Thief every single time you saw them they would be experimenting with how to how to do old songs how to do new songs and then it seemed like after that every time you see them they just do the old arrangement
Starting point is 01:27:56 to kind of say me now yeah it's kind of a little so like anytime you hear them slip into everything in its right place it's like oh he's gonna do the thing with the thing you know so i really and i'm not saying that every single time you see a band they should be like doing kind of like long fishy jam sessions you know like to make it a little different yeah neil finn would always do that like every time you'd see him you'd be like suddenly in the middle of a song they would go into these improvisational you know guitar stuff the boys from liverpool are pretty good about that too the um you too you too um so yeah so i i really enjoyed these two discs hearing them sort of not just slip into all right let's get the old mandolin out for you know like them them saying no we're this is the band we are right now um oh get up they play get up which is really cool um i love this version of strange currencies it's really cool i
Starting point is 01:28:53 love having this show so good shit yeah those two hits hits bro all right so then moving on to discs six and seven. These are from 1999, the Up Tour. This is them headlining Glastonbury. Yeah, this is long. For being just a festival show, I was surprised at how long this is. Yeah, they played, this is 95 minutes. Yeah. So, and is there some sort of story about Glastonbury where they were like, I don't think it's this particular one. I think it was later on.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Where they came out and just like did hit and hit after hit. It's in that book, the REM, like the book I. The encyclopedia one that you. No, not that. Not that one the talk about the passion not it crawls from the south not talk about the passion the one it's just called rem it's like a a narrative of their whole yeah i thought yeah i think i threw that away yeah um so uh i would have to dig it up but i don't think it's this i think it's later on right okay but anyway so this is uh them headlining glastonbury with the up tour these two discs are okay you're not crazy about
Starting point is 01:30:12 them uh you know i'm trying to remember record it pretty well yeah it sounds good they do sweetness follows which is cool that's cool Recorded pretty well. Yeah, it sounds good. They do Sweetness Follows, which is cool. That's cool. What are you thinking? Does it sound like they're... Because at this point, they had a lot of people on stage playing instruments. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:39 This is not my favorite era, I guess, I would say. They do play Cuyahoga. I enjoyed that. Does it sound like there's too much happening um well i i think it's more song selection for me okay you know they're doing they're doing you know they did lotus what's the frequency kind of so fast so no you know it's just kind of like the apologist yeah wake up bomb you know stuff like that yeah not my favorites got it but it's recorded well yeah it sounds good what's which one is this sweetness follows ah good cool i don't i don't think that this was played live that much from what i remember i don't know
Starting point is 01:31:32 so it's cool to have this stuff yeah and then the final disc disc eight is uh in a church in london um from 2004 now this is the um around the Sun tour. Yeah, a tough era. Tough era. I listened to this this morning and some things of note. We have, they announce it that they're playing a lot of new songs and so they do a lot of stuff
Starting point is 01:31:57 from Around the Sun, which is interesting to hear some of these live. Sounds a lot better. Yeah. We never went through REM Live, the actual album REM Live, which is from the Around the Sun era.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Yeah, maybe we'll do an episode about that someday. This is Boy in the Well, which is one of the songs I thought was really good from Around the Sun. Opens up a bit live.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Right. They play I Wanted to Be Wrong, which you liked. I like I Wanted to be wrong uh they play aftermath oh yeah which sounded pretty good getting aftermath live was a big treat oh yes oh and uh of note here track five ebo the letter has a special guest they say we want to ask a special guest to come out and i thought it was going to be old Patty Smith herself. Tom York from Radiohead from the aforementioned Radiohead comes out and sings the,
Starting point is 01:32:48 sings the Patty Smith part on that. So cool to get that in good condition. Yeah. Leaving New York sounds pretty good. You wanted me to be someone that I could never be. sounds pretty good. I like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:17 It's just more life in these songs live than on that album. Yeah. Should we see how this Ebo the Letter with Tom York? Yeah, yeah. Let's play a little bit
Starting point is 01:33:24 of that one with uh good old tommy y Ooh, they play Around the Sun live. Yeah. It's a tough one. Around the Sun! Around the Sun! Fields of poppies, little pearls All the boys and all the girls Sweet toothed deets in every one of the scales I said your name I wore it like a badge of teenage film stars Hash bars, cherry masks, and tinfoil tiaras
Starting point is 01:34:17 Dreaming of Maria Callas River Shields The Spain thing, I don't get it I wrap my hand in plastic to try to run through it I can take you far this dark thing I don't get it I'll take you alright thanks Tom great All right, thanks, Tom. Great.
Starting point is 01:34:49 No, it's good. It's good. It sounds cool. That big lead up. Yeah. All right. See you, Tom. Thanks for coming out.
Starting point is 01:35:01 What if that's it? They throw him off the stage. All right, get the fuck out of here. GTFO, Tom. He does some ad libs at the end. He finally gets up in his higher register. Now, there's a DVD included called Accelerating Backwards, which we don't have because we only have the MP3 version.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Yeah, what is it? What is it? I don't know. It's got 13 songs on it. It doesn't say what it is. And then it also has later with Jules Holland with Presents REM and then some bonus videos. So that's on the DVD, which neither of us have. So, oh, well.
Starting point is 01:35:46 REM, you want us to review it, send us a copy. Yeah. Well, I'm trying to. Yeah, you had to put on your glasses to figure out what you're trying to do? I'm just trying to find out what's on it, what's on the DVD. Yeah, on the Wikipedia it doesn't really say what's on it. It just kind of gives it a title. So as far as my review goes,
Starting point is 01:36:13 I wouldn't say that I liked listening to it as much as, say, Live at the Olympia. Uh-huh. But I did enjoy, out of the 104 songs, I enjoyed listening to 30 or 40. You know, like I was like, oh, this is cool for about 30 or 40.
Starting point is 01:36:37 30 or 40 songs? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the rest of it was like, oh yeah, another version of Losing My Religion. Yeah, more of this.
Starting point is 01:36:44 So I'm not really, I don't care about that song. But if it were like 30 or 40 of it, I was like, oh, yeah, another version of Losing My Religion. Yeah, more of this. I'm not really – I don't care about that song. But of like 30 or 40 of it, I was like, oh, this is cool. Yeah. You know what I was missing from it was the green era. I wish they had represented the green era. But that's what's interesting about these just throw in everything that they have types of sets. Just they never went out to England to be on the BBC those years. So it's good to have everything, although it feels like an incomplete document,
Starting point is 01:37:14 pardon the pun, of, I mean, come on. It was just sitting there. I had to. It would be cool for REM to put out a like REM live box set where it was like a concert from every, every year. Hopefully they'll do that at some point. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:33 So the DVD features a 60 minute retrospective of REM's entire BBC career called accelerating backwards. Oh, so it's like goes from accelerate all the way back to It says it's a film previously only aired in the UK, never before available for purchase. There's also the band's complete later with Jules Holland. I like how that's a selling point. Like, hey, this only aired for free.
Starting point is 01:37:57 You've never been able to buy it. Now you can pay for it. It's also a Jules Holland episode from 98 and appearances on shows like Top of the Pops. I wish that there was a Jules Holland style show here in America. What is that show? Is it just a – They were airing it on BBC America for a while.
Starting point is 01:38:15 It was so great and then they stopped airing it. But it's basically Jules Holland from Squeeze. Yeah. So he – it's so cool. So he, it's so cool. He basically has four or five bands or musicians on, and it's on like a circular stage. It opens up with the biggest band of the night playing a song live, right?
Starting point is 01:38:38 Yeah, yeah. Then it pans over to Jules Holland, who's like to the right or the left, and he goes, and now let's hear from this band. And then it like just pans like to the right or the left and he goes and now let's hear from this band and then it like just pans over to the right again and there's the other band right next to the other band and they launch into a song and he just it goes around on this circular stage and he just like goes and now this person and then they all play and sometimes
Starting point is 01:38:57 they all play together and they like they have like awesome band yeah oh yeah it's you know you got you know incredible people on that and they'll mix it up in intriguing combinations. It's just like a show for music lovers and a show for live music lovers. Did you know Squeeze has a complete BBC
Starting point is 01:39:13 Sessions record as well? I did and I have it. Squeeze Greatest Hits. Pretty great. I mean, you can't go wrong with their 45s and under. with their 45s and under. Singles 45s and under.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Yeah. What about the – they had an album in 2017? Yeah. Is it good? Look, I love Squeeze. Yeah. Okay. 45s and under is not on Apple Music.
Starting point is 01:39:45 See, this is – and by the way, I've gotten a lot of people writing in saying you're smart to actually own physical copies of the music because this is what they do with Apple Music and Spotify. They just take shit down. Like even with movies, like Filmstruck is going away. That is crazy. And Kulop, by the way, was saying, hey, why don't you just like Filmstruck is going away. That is crazy. And Kulop, by the way, was saying, hey, why don't you just get Filmstruck? Why do you get the Criterion Blu-rays? And it's because of stuff like this,
Starting point is 01:40:13 like where they can just take shit down suddenly. It is crazy that Filmstruck is going away. Physical media is the way to go if you can afford it. I know not everyone can afford to buy a bunch of stuff, but that's the real fear in the streaming era is just where's all this stuff where is it gonna go you know um already it's been you know there's so much stuff that was on vhs that will never get transferred to dvd or yeah anyway what a bummer to end this show on huh it's all it's all gonna go away it's all gonna go up in a poof of
Starting point is 01:40:46 ash and smoke I mean our entire life's work you know obviously nothing that we work on will uh no no no
Starting point is 01:40:53 they will last forever we'll be streaming that till the end of time no but I I just got a word that uh you know uh
Starting point is 01:41:03 all of the bang bang episodes that were up on Netflix UK uk and new zealand in australia they're they're all taken down now why i don't know i that's the thing people write to me and go what the fuck does that mean ifc had some like thing they had some licensing deal where they only had the first three seasons by the way and then they stopped and then they just yanked it like it expired or whatever so currently in america uh american netflix american netflix um currently the every episode is available at bang bang um on american netflix but who knows how long that's going to last. That sucks. So at some point I want to put out of like, I,
Starting point is 01:41:46 I, I paid like $20,000 to have to, to get all of the bonus material, like compiled by the editors before, like while the, while the show, just so I could have, like we have hours and hours of stuff that I've compiled that has never been seen before.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Because you knew. Because someday I want there to be. But also, you can't count on anyone else keeping track of it or saving it. Exactly. So I have hard drives at home with, like, there's a really cool feature. I showed it up in San Francisco during Sketch Fest, a tribute to Bang Bang. San Francisco during Sketchfest, a tribute to Bang Bang, but with you, where for the second to last episode of Bang Bang, you were kind enough to come and do that episode, and we recreated the pilot.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Yeah. And so there's a side-by-side comparison of how we did, and it's really cool to see us recreating it five years later. Oh, that's awesome. I would love to see that. I have all that stuff. I would love to put out a complete Blu-ray at some point. So hopefully
Starting point is 01:42:47 someone will give a shit. But speaking of giving a shit, I certainly gave a shit about listening to all of this. Eight hours of music. It was fun and it's always fun to get together with you. Let's not make it another
Starting point is 01:43:03 three months. Let's do another episode at some point. Let's do it soon. Well, what do you think about maybe a Christmas app? We got to do, if we can find time, we should do a Christmas app. That would be fun.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Maybe, maybe something else too. Who knows? Let's try to jam one in before the end of the year. Yeah. And with that, we are going to end this episode. Thank you so much to the fans of this.
Starting point is 01:43:31 And thanks to Adam for making time. Thank you, Scott. Thanks to me. Yeah, I was going to get there. Thanks so much to me. I love myself. Thanks, self. me i love myself thanks self um anything you want to excuse me plug or uh uh alert people to a movie coming out or uh big little eyes uh that's not till later uh so nothing nope cool how about you
Starting point is 01:44:01 well i people should go to that PCAST show. Oh, yeah. That's coming up. Listen to Threedom. That's my other show with Paul F. Tompkins and Lauren Lapkus. That comes out on Thursdays. I think fans of this show who like to hear our stories about our past would really like that show because I tell a lot of insane stories about stuff that happened to me, as do Paul and Lauren, when we were kids. Okay. That's going to do it for us.
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