U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Springin' Springsteen On My Bean? - Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.

Episode Date: September 12, 2023

Adam Scott and Scott Aukerman return as superfan Adam Scott Aukerman—this time to discuss the music and the impact of Bruce Springsteen. In this first installment, Scott and Scott reminisce about wh...en they first heard The Boss's music before diving into a track-by-track breakdown of his debut studio album, "Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J."

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Starting point is 00:00:00 from born in the USA to death to my hometown this is you spring and spring steam on my bean the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things Bruce. This is good rock and roll music. You know, this reminds me of a fun story that I heard. Fun story that you heard. Yeah, that I heard. You just heard it. This is one of the ones I heard.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Tom Petty. Rock and roll star. Sure. Some would say, or this Springsteen. Absolutely. He was playing at a big music festival that Bruce Springsteen was also on the bill. Can you imagine going to a festival that Petty and Springsteen are on? Tom Petty and Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:01:05 This is a festival. A festival of some kind. A music festival. Oh, okay. It doesn't have carnival rides. No, no, no, no, no. Although, one carnival ride? Maybe they did.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Would that kill you? And you know what? Some would say seeing Tom Petty, seeing Bruce Springsteen, is its own kind of carnival ride right i didn't quite get that one out no but it's a really interesting it's a great point i mean and and the sure the performance i give it a c minus yeah yeah yeah thank you uh i thought you were gonna say the performance of these rock and roll stars i thought you were moving on that is definitely c+. Yeah, that's exactly right. It's excellent. 100% C+.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Anyway, Tom Petty was going on earlier in the day than Bruce Springsteen was. Checks out. And before he went out, someone came up to him and they said, hey, Tom, just so you know, if you walk out and you hear the crowd saying, Bruce, it's going to sound like booing. It's not booming. They're just saying Bruce. And you know what Tom Petty said? What? What's the difference?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Well, I mean, yeah. I actually do want, I want Bruce. That's the end of the story. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, good. Because I jumped in. I want Bruce Springsteen to someday have a. Hold on. I'm sorry.'m sorry. Okay, good, because I jumped in. I want Bruce Springsteen to someday have a- Hold on, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Yeah. Is this an episode of I Jumped In? I think it might be. Jump, jump. Might as well jump. Hey, welcome to I Jumped In. This is Scott. And this is Scott.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And we're talking about jumping into things today on the show, on our inaugural episode. And- I love jumping in. about jumping into things today on the show, on our inaugural episode. And... I love jumping in. Sometimes just right in the middle of someone else's sentence. Although sometimes, I would say,
Starting point is 00:02:52 it could start getting annoying. Shut up, shut up, shut up. Okay. I love jumping into a car. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll just... I love jumping into a roller coaster. Shut up, shut up, shut up.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Shut the fuck up. I'm trying to jump in. Shut the Shut up. I'm trying to jump in. Shut the fuck up. I'm trying to jump in. Shut the fuck up. All right. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Jump. Jump. Might as well jump. Good happen. Yeah. That was really, really good. Good. Inaugural episode.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I really want Bruce Springsteen to have a terrible show down the line somewhere, like where he's just off and people are, and then people start booing and he's like goes backstage he's like did you hear him they said Bruce and everyone has to be like everyone backstage is like what's the difference what if Bruce played a show that was super shitty and super short yeah it's like 30 minutes he's like fuck this goes backstage fuck this and he's like good show right they're like what are you doing um welcome to you spring and springsteen on my bean um first episode and very excited to do this of course my name is uh scott ackerman i'm the host of comedy bang bang among among other things that i've done in my career you can look me up look would it kill you to give me a quick
Starting point is 00:04:10 goog yeah goog it up on the ark man and then across from that that sounds like a dennis something dennis up on the ark man it's like oswald on the prison transfer. That's my impression of Dennis Miller. That was Harvey Oswald on- Lee Harvey Oswald. Lee Harvey Oswald. I just call him Harvey. You're good buddies with Lee Harvey Oswald. And across from me, you know him from Parks and Recreation.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You know him from The Hostage. What is your Apple TV Plus show? What is it called? The Host him from The Hostage. What is your Apple TV Plus show? What is it called? The Hostage. The Hostage. He's not the negotiator. He's not Kevin Spacey. Okay, although doing the show with Kevin Spacey,
Starting point is 00:04:55 boy, that would be a thrill. Yeah, well, it would be interesting, wouldn't it? Let's get him on the podcast. What a weird episode. Sorry. You spring in Springsteen on my being special guest Kevin Spacey. The two Scotts and Kevin Spacey. Adam Scott is here.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Hello. Hi, guys. Hi, everybody. Do you want to say hello? You just want to say hello to a blanket, everybody? I would like to say hello to a blanket. Okay. Because it is chilly in here.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Is it really? Oh, my God. It's freezing. Dog days are summer. Yeah, you're sh here. Is it really? Oh my God, it's freezing. Dog days are summer and... Yeah, you're shivering. No, it's got to be what, 70s? Oh, Mr. Freeze came by. Yeah. Did he freeze it up in here?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah, he froze everything. Did he fart in the room and freeze it? A lot of people don't know that. He doesn't need the gun. There is a scene in Batman and Robin where Mr. Freeze farts in Robin's face. It's just ice cubes. And Robin's like, oh, gross.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And then frozen. He has time to say, oh, gross. Oh, gross. Before freezing. Anyway, what are we doing here? This is a new show. Yeah. We've done a few shows in the past.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I can't remember what they were called, but what did we do? Well, we've done similar shows in the past. Similar. Similar podcasts. Yes. To this one. Yes, to this one. We did one on the band uh we did one on uh
Starting point is 00:06:32 we did of course the chill peps the red hot chill peps the reddest hottest chill peps you could find that was a comprehensive one yeah that was long yeah and then uh also uh mr burns and the talking heads god i forget forgot we did constantly that we did that one we've also done uh of course uh stained glass and uh our huey lewis show and huey lewis series what was the Huey Lewis one called? Huey talking Huey to me. And that, of course, had a special guest, Huey Lewis on it.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And Jimmy Kimmel. And Jimmy Kimmel, yeah. Yeah. You know, I was wondering if we could, using AI, go back and just drop us saying Bruce and or Bruce Springsteen and or Springsteen into those previous episodes and we wouldn't have to do this we wouldn't have to see each other yeah I like
Starting point is 00:07:32 that can we do that let's try let's let's hear the first episode of you talking you two to me uh and we'll see if we can drop it in okay ready here we go see if we can drop it in. Ready? Here we go. Springsteen. Bruce Springsteen. Bruce. Spring.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Bruce. Springsteen. Bruce Springsteen. Bruce Springsteen bruce springsteen yeah i think that works yeah i so we can just wrap this up i guess yeah let's i mean see you later asshole bye fuck you fuck you forever um what do we do on these shows what is our goal what's our purpose, I think first and foremost, the truth. Sure. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:30 We're always, we're always looking for three chords in the truth. That's all. That's all you need. Okay. So you got, you got C, D and G. G. And then. Throw an E minor in there.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Yeah, but that would be four chords in the truth. I know, but still, it makes your songs better. Okay. Four chords and sort of the truth. How about that? And amps, microphones. Okay. Then it's going to be four chords, amps, microphones, and lies.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And lies. Yeah. Oh, why lies? Because you can't have the truth anymore unless you only have three cords. What was that TV show you did about lies? Liars and Lie Babies? No, what was it? Oh, Big Little Lies.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Oh, yeah. But we're not supposed to talk about... Who cares? Yeah. I never saw it, by the way. Does that insult you? That does not surprise me at all. Why?
Starting point is 00:09:24 Was it a show made exclusively for women no it was a show exclusively made for everyone but you i get that i still haven't seen the hostage either i got it but it's it's definitely oh i'll get you some uh i remember with john ham he was on he had done one season of mad men and i think it was air it was like i forget how many they did in the first season 10 maybe uh-huh and i think six were on the air at that point yeah i was like oh i gotta see it and we were playing poker every week it was like oh i'll give you let me loan you i think i swear it was videotapes it may have been i mean back then it was like oh eight because i remember the bulky cases and he gave me these bulky video to so i watched the first season on videotape
Starting point is 00:10:09 weird can you imagine something it doesn't feel like that long ago but it was kind of a long time ago it really was um what's our goal here we want to we want to uh what do we do in these shows we an iconic artist uh and we talk about our feelings about them our our history with them yeah not personal history because uh we'd never met any of these people uh prior to doing these shows uh but our our uh personal to us history of when we listen to these records and what we what we like about them, what we don't like about them. We're going to go through the discography of, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:51 this gentleman, much as we have in the past with the previous artists. Although I think, I think for this one, because time is shorter, we're going to do the major albums. We're going to do, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:01 uh, we're not going to go into the forays, uh, into stuff like the seager sessions or or things like that uh unless we catch up with it down the line yeah um but who are we talking about adam who who just who what is this who who's this person we keep referencing this guy this guy who has two thumbs this guy who has two thumbs? Disguy. Who has two thumbs and likes New Jersey?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Bruce. Bruce. Okay, let's talk about him. We have Bruce Frederick Joseph Springsteen. That's a terrific grouping of names. That's four different names. Yeah. How does he carry all those around?
Starting point is 00:11:45 How does he figure out which one to say in which order yeah how did he settle on bruce as far as a stage name goes i don't know let's let's road test the other ones and see how they sound frederick springsteen fred they're not booing they're saying yeah it doesn't work i think tom petty that that story would be instead of instead of what's the difference he would say no shit i think he came up with that that maxim of they're not booing they're saying bruce first and then said okay which my names does this work with yeah he's like this will make a really good story i i'm gonna work on my bruce impression okay yeah because yours is excellent okay yeah i need you to workshop that for an episode um that's right bruce springsteen what
Starting point is 00:12:31 are his what what's his stats born september 23 1949 so he's got a birthday coming up where he's gonna be 74 years old like in our parents' stratosphere as far as age goes. I didn't, you know. All right. You thought he was your age? Yeah, I thought he was like 28. No, this is firmly within our genre of boomer dad rock.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah, you're 100% correct. Sometimes I just forget how fucking old I am. Of course, he's not just known as Bruce Springsteen. He has nicknames out there. Yeah. Chief amongst them. Da Boss. Da Boss.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Da Bots. Da Boss. Da Bots. Da Bots. Da Bots. Da Boss. The Boss. The Boss. The Boss. The Boss. The Boss. The Boss. But he has other nicknames too. He's also known as the Chairman of the Board.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He's known as the hardest working man in show business. The CEO of all things Glitterati. The First Lady of Seoul. That's right. The Great One. Yep. The Man with the Plan. That's right. The Great One. Yep. The Man with the Plan. Old Webhead.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yep. El Nino. Sometimes people call him El Nino. Sure. The Kissing Bandit. Occasionally, that was a weird period where he went around kissing people with a mask on. The Man with the Guitar Waving His Penis. Yeah, he's also known as that.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Mr. Liverwurst Breath. Yep. Of course, there's Joe Lunchpail. Oh, yeah. Jim Lunchpail. That's a good one. Those are both good because they're similar. Susan Lunchpail, which is a strange one.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yeah, but I like it. The erudite assassin. Love it. And of course, his most famous nickname, Carl. Oh, Carl. Carl! Hey, Carl, get over here. That one rolls off the tongue we love him uh born in new jersey new jersey new jersey born in uh where was he born born in uh uh long branch
Starting point is 00:14:41 new jersey grew up catholic in Freehold, New Jersey. Now, can I ask you, did you read or listen to his book, his autobiography? I have his book. Yep. I have not read it. Have you looked at it? I looked at it, but I couldn't understand any of the words. Huh.
Starting point is 00:14:58 So I put it down. I decided to do a Billy Madison. Go back to school every grade. So you went from kindergarten all the way up through 12th grade? 12th grade, yeah. And I just finished like three minutes before we started. Oh, so you haven't had time to read the book. I haven't had time to read the book yet, but I swear I'm going to read it.
Starting point is 00:15:15 That makes sense. I did go to see his Springsteen on Broadway show where he does a lot of that material. So did I. of that material so did i um and uh let's see his mother adele ann who's originally from bayridge in brooklyn sure and his father douglas frederick dutch that's a cool nickname dutch is cool that is arguably better than the bots yeah dutch dutch dutch is awesome although if someone were to shout dutch at me and i was on stage i feel like i would think they're saying duck oh yeah you don't want to be ducking yeah bruce doesn't want to be or you would think that they are mistaking you for an
Starting point is 00:15:56 actual duck which is not flattering yeah i mean like huey lewis gets it with i want a new duck but yeah obviously oh wait no that's weird out is that weird al's with I want a new duck, but obviously, oh wait, no, that's weird. Is that weird? I was version. I want a new duck. Oh my goodness. Um, so wait,
Starting point is 00:16:14 yeah. Wait, what? How, what's your kind of connection to sprint? Like how, when did you start getting into him? How into him? We haven't cut.
Starting point is 00:16:22 We haven't covered one important part. Got it. The E street band. shit oh shit you can't talk about bruce without talking about the east god damn it there they are and of course we all know the e stands for edible the edible street he always wants everyone to know that the band is technically edible although every performance he says we are technically edible but please do not attempt to eat us do not come on stage and eat us up don't do it we we appreciate existing crowd loves it crowd love this they always say nom nom nom if you see him on the street just go up
Starting point is 00:17:06 you'll go yeah i know i'm edible but don't don't do it my band it's my band not me it's there i mean technically i am edible as well yeah but don't do it don't don't do it but don't do it we tell you that to let you know you shouldn't do it. Don't do it. But don't do it. We tell you that to let you know you shouldn't do it. And what do we want to accomplish with this show, Adam? We want to accomplish, well, we want to get through the discography. Yeah. We want to hang out together. But more than that, our goal essentially is Bruce is on this big worldwide tour.
Starting point is 00:17:43 He just wrapped up Europe. He's back in the States. He's coming to LA at the end of the year. Bruce, this is an appeal to you directly. All we want is a three-hour, one-on-one, uninterrupted interview with you. You perform for three hours. You can talk for three hours. Three hours of chit chat yeah
Starting point is 00:18:07 and only chit chat we only want it to be chit chat just like small talk no talking about music talking about music we want to just talk about like streets that you've lived on and the weather and stuff like that and like what's going on you know generally with the strike and and acting and stuff like that. But we don't want anything about music but three hours of that. It sounds irresistible. I mean, how could he say no?
Starting point is 00:18:33 One-on-one, but if you got to bring little Steven, okay, fine. Yeah. No, that would be great too. That would be more chit-chat, so it would be six hours. Yes. If you bring little Steven,
Starting point is 00:18:45 it's six hours. Oh man. Um, but that's all, that's all we want. And of course, you know, if you want to give us a couple of t-shirts,
Starting point is 00:18:55 a couple of t-shirts a piece, I would say at this point. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, they, they've got to have t-shirts, boxes of them backstage
Starting point is 00:19:06 at all these shows like they've got to have some of those cool like vintagey looking t-shirts yeah i'll take new ones too like ones with like do you think he has like the ugliest just like you know those terrible like heavy metal t-shirts like, the late 80s that just were, like, you know, the super huge color design. And super thick cotton that's uncomfortable. If you got any of those, we'll take them. Yeah. Off your hands. Those are our favorites.
Starting point is 00:19:33 If you have a warehouse of this shit, by the way, in New Jersey. Send them all to us. Send them all. We'll even, we'll, we'll even. We love T-shirts. We'll go to, we'll go to the warehouse and we'll plunder the whole thing. We'll open that thing wide open. I know you're sitting there going, oh, I'm sitting on a bunch of shirts, sitting on a bunch of tees.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I can't get rid of them. You know what? We won't even take them. We'll just organize them. We love organizing. Sorry, never mind. We'll just organize them. We love organizing things. Now we're organizing. Sorry, never mind. I don't want to do this. We'll alphabetize your t-shirts. Everything is under T. Everything is either B or T. B or S.
Starting point is 00:20:16 B.S., by the way, those are his initials. Oh, shit. You think that hasn't come up? Never put that one together. Yeah. Ah, interesting. I know a few people who've gone to see a bs show and they've been like i thought i was seeing bullshit yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:20:31 so um all right so we want a three or six hour chit chat sesh chat sesh uh not about music and if by the way if it ever if like you ever start bruce if you ever start talking about music the clock starts over yeah so that three hours just goes backwards to to zero also you know what would be nice um and i know they probably have a whole staff maybe even a chef or something uh that goes on tour with them a chocolate milkshake couple chocolate milkshakes chalky milks chalky milks why not sit down i would take my malted too i like that i'll take a malted yeah yeah delicious chalky malts get some chalky malts two a piece two chalky malts each because it's gonna be a long chit chat ses sesh. Possibly like 16 hours, depending on if music comes into it.
Starting point is 00:21:27 It keeps coming up. I'll tell you what, every time the clock starts over, I need another Choccy Malt delivered right there. Suck those babies down. Within two minutes. Oh, delicious. I'm going to keep bringing music up just so we're there longer. Get more Choccy Malt.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Choccy Malt, definitely. That's all we want. That's all we want that's all we want bruce yeah it's not asking much it's not asking for much and if you want i mean even bonobos didn't do this if you want to feature us on your new records sure well i mean we're giving him a lot of material right now yeah like we're talking about him a lot. I would love for him to sing about us. Yeah. On one of his records. Chalky Maltz.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Chalky Maltz. Yeah, a song called Chalky Maltz. He's written songs about people he knows. Oh, sure. He's written songs about his mother. He's written songs about his father. Yeah, Rosalita. Rosalita, he plays it every single show.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah. Come on, man. Write a song about us that you sing every show. We have Chalky Maltz in there somewhere. Come on. We're not saying it has to be the chorus, but it's a pretty about us that you sing every show. Weave Chucky Maltz in there somewhere. Come on. We're not saying it has to be the chorus, but it's a pretty good chorus. No, it's very catchy. It's already an earworm.
Starting point is 00:22:32 So that's all we want. That's it. That's it. That's probably it. We reserve the right. We'll let you know if we decide to add something else. The longer this goes on, by the way the way each episode our demands probably will increase so get a hold of us like how awesome would that be if episode two special guest bruce springsteen
Starting point is 00:22:52 because he was just like okay this is the basement we can't we can't let this thing keep growing get these guys sit down for the six hour bitch sesh oh wait it's a bitch sesh too i think it's turned into that so he's just bitching about his pals at the east street well he's gonna be bitching about us and our demands um when adam you asked it of me. I did? Earlier, and I cut you off. Well, but you had to jump in. I had to jump in. Is this another episode of... I think so.
Starting point is 00:23:33 What was it called again? I had to jump in. Okay. Hey, everyone. Welcome to I Had to Jump In. This is Scott. This is Scott. And look, I just have to jump in welcome to I Had to Jump In. This is Scott. This is Scott. And look, I just have to jump in here.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I have to jump in. No, I have to jump in here because I think... No, just super quick. Just hold on. Super quick. Let me jump in. Before you say that, though. Before you say that, I did...
Starting point is 00:23:55 No, no. Wait, before... Before you say that. No, I swear I'll let you get back to your... Okay, go ahead. I had to jump in real quick. Oh, shit. I have to say this one thing.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Fuck you. Fuck you. No, fuck you. Bye. Bye. Sophomore slump. It seemed to kind of dissolve right in front of me. I don't know if they were on the same page.
Starting point is 00:24:24 No. You asked me how I got into Bruce Springsteen. I'm a little more interested. Sure, I'll talk about it. What am I? I'm an open book. I'll talk about this shit. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Okay. But you know what? Didn't think you weren't. I'm surprised that you wanted to do the show because I don't know what your connection to Da Boss is. All right. So you just assumed that I had no connection to The Boss? I don't think I've ever heard you ever say the words Bruce Springsteen, boss, concert, guitar. None of those words? E.
Starting point is 00:25:06 You've ever heard of it? You never used even a word that has the letter E in it. That's. See? That's. Not. Tra. Tra.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Bruce, you know, of the artists we've done these podcasts about bruce springsteen is probably the one i consider myself a fairly major bruce springsteen fan although there are still pockets of springsteen's discography that i'm not super well-versed in. There are little eras that I'm not, if we can borrow a Taylor Swift term, that I'm not as well-versed in. That's right. You were at the Taylor Swift show.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I went to the Taylor Swift show. I was at that, by the way. It was fantastic. I was at the show across the street. I saw Beck. I know what you're saying. Put a Glenn in front of that and you're interested suddenly. Was he playing the forum as well?
Starting point is 00:26:11 Glenn Beck? Glenn Beck, yes. Wait, Beck was playing that same night. Beck and Phoenix. Well, they added, one of the shows that Taylor Swift added was on the night that Beck and Phoenix and Jenny Lewis had already like booked. Where was it? At the Forum. At the Forum. How fun.
Starting point is 00:26:28 That must have been great. And so getting there was a nightmare. Yeah, I would imagine. Leaving, not bad because she was still playing. Cause she was doing Bruce Springsteen like three hour shows. It was like three and a half hours. A lot of eras to cover apparently. Yeah. It was terrific.
Starting point is 00:26:43 It really was. Wonderful. But, yeah, I mean, so you, when did you, look, I gotta ask it. Sure. When did you first hear of Bruce Springsteen? I first heard of Bruce Springsteen. You know, I think that Born in the USA being this massive album and kind of cultural phenomenon was where, because I was 11 years old when that album exploded. And I think that's where- Not literally. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:27:17 The album didn't, I mean, you didn't buy. Oh, it didn't actually explode? Yeah. Well, not my copy, but i didn't actually get the album until later on and as far as i know that one maybe some of the early pressings those may have exploded because you know uh actual records vinyl used to be made of flammable material yeah like tnt i think yeah tnt uh that that's why if you try and play any record that was pressed before
Starting point is 00:27:47 1984 it will explode right when the needle drops down on it do you see what I mean so born in the USA I think that's probably the era where I first heard of him because that's when he became like Michael Jackson huge right I mean, but he
Starting point is 00:28:05 was huge before then. Who were the most famous in 1984? Who were the most famous musicians you have? Michael Jackson. Prince. Huey Lewis. Madonna. Huey Lewis and the News were huge.
Starting point is 00:28:23 They were huge at the time, but I would say the ones that were iconic, where if you were making a comedy video and you were like, oh, it'd be so funny, let's parody musicians, you'd get Michael Jackson, Madonna, Bruce, right? Yeah. Although in that era, Cindy Lauper, Billy Joel. Billy Idol. Billy Idol.
Starting point is 00:28:43 You'd probably throw all of them. But maybe the first tier would be madonna prince billy idol culture and culture club billy but the bassist culture club yes john um but i didn't really get into him until later on to like high school and i discovered nebraska and that was so is that the first that's the first record you bought is that's the first one that i really got and then i was like oh shit and that's that got me into bruce so you were like oh shit oh shit this is good stuff what do you remember was it where was the copy that did you buy i got it from the columbia uh cd club i just picked it because i was like oh br, Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I just arbitrarily picked Nebraska. That's an interesting one to pick because it's spare and acoustic. I think I had read about it in Rolling Stone in one of the lists of the greatest albums ever. And they said this was spare and acoustic or something. So I picked that one. Something stupid like that.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah, some dumb phrasing. Anthony DeCurtis just shit out some phrase and i bought it no but it was really really uh that album's amazing it's still one of my favorites how about you scott well i before before we go on to me so you got nebraska yeah and then i want to chart your history a little more you got nebraska then you listen to that and you were like oh this rules yeah and then what then what what's your pathway hmm i probably went to i probably went to born in the usa next because that was like thriller level right and um and then and then i feel like i didn't really dive into his earlier stuff till even later on and so nebraska's is is as early as you went for a for a while
Starting point is 00:30:35 yeah because then you start did you end up and this was like 88 and then tunnel of love came out and i was i didn't really like that very much i love it now but at the time at the time it was different and it was a little more okay and there's like poppy and and then then did you sort of drop off on him for a little while until and then maybe the reunion east street band reunion it's like early to mid 90s i started getting into like the river and, uh, born to run. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:10 I think that's, I think that, and then when the E street band got that, Oh, and then, you know, where I really dove back in was when the rising came out, then I went headfirst in,
Starting point is 00:31:22 this is already 21 years ago. That's where I really dove in. and then every album that came out i would just get it and listen to the shit out of it and then also get into like darkness at the edge of town and all that stuff and how many times have you seen him live um probably like five times something like that so like, technically, the fact you still have all of your fingers and your thumb, you could count this on maybe one hand. I could count the times I've seen them live probably on one hand. Maybe if I had one of my second hand's fingers, I could count the other time. It may have been six times.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Maybe not six. Okay. Just don't chop off any any of my fingers please have you ever been in a situation where go ahead and pick that up and i'm gonna vamp a little bit adam just dropped his coaster um these are sticky coasters the fan gave us these by the way i don't know if uh we've ever shouted them out but uh these are uh coasters of the cd sticker or stickers on the the CD or the record. This one is the U2 one.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Rattle and Hum. Rattle and Hum. It's got to be a record because it says Side 4. Right, right. Oh, okay. So it's like a- Oh, this is the middle of a vinyl. The middle of the vinyl.
Starting point is 00:32:36 That's what it is. It's an actual vinyl. Yeah. Actually, I think the better place to stick it is on this part of the coaster, right? Or is it the other way? I have no idea. Anyway, but he gave me that and I think it's place to stick it is on this part of the coaster, right? Or is it the other way? I have no idea. Anyway, but he gave me that and some other stuff and one for Jimmy Pardo that I gave to him recently. Anyway, thanks to him if he's still listening.
Starting point is 00:32:54 That was probably eight years ago. Be sure not to cut that out. Yep. That stays in. Out of everything? That stays in. Maybe that's the entire episode. All right. So good. that stays maybe that's the entire episode um all right so good so anything else you want to say
Starting point is 00:33:06 about uh you just saw him recently in new york yeah i saw him uh and paul mccartney was sitting nearby and i got to watch what which uh bruce springsteen songs are paul mccartney's favorites which he would stand up for interesting and dance for dance for. What were they? I don't remember. He shook his little butt? Yeah, sure did. Wow. The mop top himself. Do you remember when we saw the lovable lads? Who was there?
Starting point is 00:33:33 Bruce Springsteen was there. He was? Yeah, do you remember? Remember when in New York at Madison Square Garden, when we went around the side midway through the show to see when when they did this the acoustic stuff yeah and then who was behind us was bruce springsteen he was yeah up in this in the seats god i don't remember checking out the show you don't remember that no interesting he was up in the seats he was in the seat he was in the like the house seats you know which are yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:33:59 yeah on the opposite end from where our seats were. Huh. Yeah. I don't remember that. Anyway, good stuff. Hmm. Good stuff. That's where I guess Paul McCartney was in Madison Square Garden. Those same seats. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. How interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah, because that's where we saw you. I'm putting it all together. How about you, Scott? Yeah. Yeah. Similarly, in 1984, Born in the usa came out and so did you have any awareness before that era i i think i had heard hungry heart and i think later on i was surprised the hungry heart was by bruce springsteen because i just kind of knew that song or or i was surprised that it wasn't
Starting point is 00:34:41 on born in the usa me too um. Um, but, but yeah, I don't think I had really any awareness of him until suddenly 1984 born in the USA comes out and I'm, uh, 13 going on 14. I'm just a little boy. I want to be a big boy. Yeah. Um,
Starting point is 00:34:59 and, uh, he's everywhere. And I feel like that song born in the USA was kind of like, I know it was Dancing in the Dark because that video came out first. So I saw that. And I was like, yeah, whatever. And then Born in the USA came out. And I was just like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Because it just felt very like, you know, you got to understand, we grew up in the Reaganite 80s. And it just felt. They sure were using it as like a jingoistic anthem yeah but it but it's not i didn't know that though i thought it was like same proud to be an american it's like basically if you're like you know what i love is that guy who sings proud to be an american you went to every show of his yeah it felt like that a little bit. So I was kind of like anti-Bruce Springsteen. And then I was seeing this girl. She's now a woman, I'm sure. Yeah, I would imagine.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I would imagine. And she was really into music. And she was very into whatever Robert Hilburn and the LA Times was into. And so she was very into X. I'm pretty sure she told me about the band x and great band she would go see them all the time awesome band and uh she was very who else was she really into i remember x and a couple other like more alternative stuff and we would watch videos at her place like video one would come on and uh watch like hazy
Starting point is 00:36:26 fantasia and oingo boingo and stuff like that talking heads and stuff we would watch all that kind of stuff but then she was also really into bruce springsteen because robert hilburn was real and was constantly writing articles about it seemed like every week he wrote some new article about him yep he would go review every single show on the tour and i was always like he's kind of lame isn't he and because you were supposed to think anything that was that popular was lame yeah although i i did like prince a lot and i and i liked uh huey lewis i even liked huey lewis yeah news just something about br Springsteen. He seemed old to me. Now, of course, you look back at him in that era.
Starting point is 00:37:08 He's a snack. A gorgeous 28-year-old guy. I was in a liberal beach town where everything that was, like I said, jingoistic or had any kind of under the Reagan umbrella was sort of frowned upon. And like you said, the whole Born in the USA motif and the album cover, everything about the red, white and blue, the Levi's, everything about it kind of seemed like boomer shit to me. Yeah. And so I was very much like anytime she'd be like, I got to see Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I think her mom punished her once for something we did. I can't remember what. And it was like, well, you can't go see the Bruce Springsteen show. And she was like super bummed. And so I was always just like, God, she likes all this cool music. I don't know why she likes Bruce Springsteen. So I kind of was always like a little against it. And then.
Starting point is 00:38:00 But were you also like, huh, Bruce Springsteen might be cool then. I think the song seeped into my consciousness, definitely. But then I think the first time that I kind of was like, oh, shit, was Letterman's final NBC show, which was in 92, right? Springsteen played that, and he played Glory Days. Yeah. And he got up on the desk, I remember, and he was playing Glory Days. And I hadn't heard that song in a long time,
Starting point is 00:38:38 and I was like, fuck, this song actually rules. And he gave such an incredible performance of it i was like damn that's really good so i was kind of like huh maybe he's okay and i went i went and i think i got then on cd i like cobbled together a collection of some of his records um i think i got born in the usa like if i could see him used for two dollars yeah let's pick one up and i remember once i was at um the um the sidewalk sale of what was that record store on highland and um it started with an a i feel like not not amoeba obviously but uh aaron i think it was aaron's records aaron's do you remember aaron's record that was in silver lake wasn't it
Starting point is 00:39:24 oh maybe there's there's one on highland though that okay that i would go to all the time yeah I think it was Aaron's Records. Do you remember Aaron's Records? That was in Silver Lake, wasn't it? Oh, maybe. There's one on Highland, though, that I would go to all the time. And they would have sidewalk sales where they would just put out a bunch of their CDs and they would be like a dollar a piece, right? And I remember just getting a big stack of things all for a dollar a piece. And then I saw Bob Odenkirk. This is probably, we'd been working together for a while, so this is probably like 98, 99 or something like that. And I had Human Touch and, not Human Touch, I had- Lucky Days? Lucky Town and the companion album.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Human Touch. Human Touch, yeah. Human Touch and Lucky Town. They were both a dollar, right? Yeah. And Bob was like, hey, buddy, what do you got there? Let me take a look through your stack. Oh, wow. And then he pulled out the Bruce Springsteen ones. He goes, why are you getting these? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:12 And I was like, I don't know. They're a dollar. Yeah. And he's like, you're getting, I mean, these are like some of his shitty albums, right? Like, you're getting these, why? I was like, just to hear them? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:23 He's like, this guy's crazy. He's spending $2 on these albums that suck just to hear them. I don't understand this. You're like, Bob, give me a fucking break, man. Give me a fucking break, you rich asshole. Yeah. Jesus. No, obviously, this is a decade and a half before he goes on to create this iconic tv character but why is he big
Starting point is 00:40:47 time in me yeah come on man come on man you're not you're not saul goodman yet cut me a little slack gotta bro some slack mr mcgill um i thought you're gonna call it mr magoo uh mr magoo mr magoo um so so i so i was still kind of like did those i never listened to those albums they are shitty right oh we'll talk about them okay all right well um but uh but i far down the road you want to talk you want to cover them right now not really because i've never really listened to them so i was still casual like a person who was kind of like buying them and listening you're testing the water listening to them once and maybe like going like oh i i think i got his his greatest hits or whatever and it was in the in the mid 90s yeah which had uh i think about secret garden and
Starting point is 00:41:39 yeah that was a good streets of collection that was a good one to have for like a good entry point yeah but similar i think to you when he got back together with the east street band it was suddenly like because i think we grew up in a time too where he right at the tail end of the east street band stuff where he like dissolved them yeah and then it was kind of like oh we can never see the cool Bruce Bray scene stuff, you know? So like that was a period of from like 86 through. Yeah, it was a while. Through 99. So that's, I mean, that's most of our young lives. Was that when he got them back together was for The Rising?
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yes. So that was 02. And I could be very wrong, but I think they did a tour. You're right. And then they did The Rising. Yeah, you're right. So that's when i started paying attention again i feel like i saw i feel like i saw a few things on the rising that i was
Starting point is 00:42:31 like oh this is cool and they're a really good band and then i then a couple of things happen um he played when ghost of tom jode came out oh, that's a good album. One of the MTV awards. Uh-huh. And he did just him with the acoustic guitar and he did that song. Yep. And I remember I,
Starting point is 00:42:53 uh, Kulop was over. This had to be, I forget when this came out, 2004 or something like this. Kulop was over. Tom, Tom Jode's in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Is Tom Jode in the 90s? I think so. I think you're think so i think you're right i think i think it's pre east street band coming back together yeah what wait no no i'm sorry devils and dust is what i'm thinking oh devils and dust so he he came out and he played this is 2005 he came out and played devils and dust right yeah and it's just him with an acoustic guitar and i'm you know i'm i'm watching i like i like anything so i'm just like watching everything yeah but kulop you know has more specific music tastes yeah and so he comes out he sings devils in dust and at the end of it he kind
Starting point is 00:43:39 of slant my memory of it is he sort of like takes off the guitar and sort of slams it down doesn't break it or whatever but just slams it down and goes, bring them home. And this is about that. And this is a war song, essentially. And Kulop is just like enraptured by it and goes, oh my God, that was amazing. And I was like, what? And she suddenly becomes this huge Bruce Springsteen fan. Oh, interesting, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Just like, I think sparked from that. Yeah. And then they play the Super Bowl. Mm-hmm. And I'm over at a previous guest on our Huey Lewis show. I'm over at Jimmy Kimmel's house and watching the Super Bowl. And suddenly they come out. And it's a great, great, incredible performance.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And a ref comes out and throws a flag at bruce springsteen for sliding across this yeah yeah and i'm really for being too awesome yeah and i'm really enjoying it i'm started dancing around not dancing around but i'm bopping in my seat shaking your little butt around i look behind me and who's there but batman himself fucking ben affleck's right behind me yeah watching it solo I'm like oh hey see watching your butt shake he's watching my butt shake around and I'm like enjoy the show bro yeah um so I think that's sort of when I clicked into like oh okay this is a great band with great songs and so I went I got the rising I got all the all the all the current records and then i
Starting point is 00:45:06 went back and got all of the previous records and i started to see him live a lot yeah and got very into him and then started getting into now like i'm listening to all the old concerts you know like the ones that they put out uh officially like all the old shows i have all all the old shows that they put out and i like all the old shows i have all all the old shows that they put out and i've listened to them all uh that live compilation they put out like in the late 80s yeah that one's really good too yeah yeah these are these are full concerts that he puts out on there and so and the one that i went to here in la was an incredible like three and a half hour show um where he played all of the rising in the middle
Starting point is 00:45:46 of it and that's just that's a double album and not the rising sorry the river wow that's a double album he played that just that's the middle oh yeah he did a river tour did a river there the river tour here in la was that that's a i think 80 minutes yeah that's just like half the show you know great that's such a great album yeah um and so i i saw that show and i was yeah that's just like half the show you know great that's such a great album yeah um and so i i saw that show and i was like that's one of the best fucking concerts i've ever been to and i i was like was that as good and i just listened to it again and i was like damn it oh so is that one of the shows they put out yeah yeah that's cool so now i would say and then you know i saw him at south by southwest uh that was the one favor i ever asked them for like me putting together the comedy stuff all those years can i go see bruce can i go see
Starting point is 00:46:30 bruce springsteen when he plays and so they got me like house seats behind his family i wish they said no yeah they're like that would have been funny guess what no no no thanks go home so currently i would say i'm i'm in that level of like i've graduated certainly from casual fan yeah to true fan to where now i feel sort of like i'm veering into obsessive fan where i'm going back and like comparing concerts and stuff like that but i'm certainly not one of these super fans who's like i know every member of the band's full name how long they've been there and let me ask you this when you go see them next are there or when you've seen them in the past are there blank spots for you when you see them live like wait a second i
Starting point is 00:47:14 don't know this song yeah well there there certainly are like albums that i haven't listened to over and over and over again so if he ever plays something like, what's the one that he's been playing on tour this tour? Kitty's Back. You know, like. Yeah. When he plays Kitty's Back, that's from Wild and the Innocent. That's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 That's one that I haven't listened to over and over again. So I'm like. That's one of the songs I was like, wait a second, what? Which one is this? And people like, you can can tell the hardcore rider dive. He's playing kiddies back. They're freaking out.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And I'm just like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah. So there are certainly songs and albums that I haven't listened to over and over and over again, like the true fans. Yeah. I have my favorites. We'll talk about that as this show progresses. Yeah. Ones I have listened to over and over and over again like the true fans yeah i have my favorites we'll talk about that
Starting point is 00:48:05 as this show progresses ones i have listened to over and over and over again and how about his albums of late i know like in 0809 he went on a run and had like three albums he was like yearly he was putting out these yeah big records so uh radio nowhere he did the rising and radio nowhere and uh wrecking ball and magic and those are all really good and then he kind of stumbled a little bit with uh that one that he did with tom morello uh which was more of like a b-sides uh recording kind of that was called um high hopes uh and then he did he did another kind of offshoot with his Glen Campbell kind of tribute, Western Stars. Oh yeah, that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Interesting. I don't think we're covering that one. And then Letter to You is his most recent like E Street Band record. And we'll talk about that. That was good. We'll talk about that. I don't think we're going to cover only Strong Survive,
Starting point is 00:49:02 which is his Motown covers record, unless we got to it a while. I don't think we're going to cover only the strong survive, which is his Motown covers record. Um, unless we got to it. Oh, wow. He put out two different Western stars albums. Well, one is a live recording that he did in a barn.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Oh, is that what it is? And then the other one is, yeah, I think he, he decided not to tour Western stars. He just like, he's one of those artists where,
Starting point is 00:49:21 you know, Hey, Hey, come film me in a barn and pay me eight million dollars to do it and they're like okay so that that's probably the and they made a film out of it i think that's on netflix or something like that um where that you know that that's the one because it ends with uh rhinestone cowboy i think is the last song on it oh working on a dream was one of it was magic working on a dream and
Starting point is 00:49:45 then wrecking ball those three yeah really good solid records yeah and radio nowhere yeah good no radio nowhere is a song on magic oh sorry sorry sorry can you can we just swap that in post every time i see radio nowhere um yeah wow so that's crazy is looking at the dates ghost of tom jode in 95 and then and then nothing until 2002 uh ghost of tom seven years he just didn't put any any music out is that? Can that possibly be true? Let's go to the, let's check the stats here. Let's go to the phones.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Let's go, let's take some calls. Hello? Yeah, I have a question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I called you. You have a question? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Is that true? Let me, let me look. Let me go to the phones. Yeah. Rochester? true? Let me look. Let me go to the phones. Yeah. Rochester? Yes, Rochester. Hi, Rochester? Yeah, this is Rodchester. Who's this? Rochester?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Oh, this is Rodchester. Rochester! Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm great. Is that all you wanted to ask me? Yep. Bye.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Okay, so I feel like that question wasn't exactly what we were looking for. But yeah, you're right. Seven years ago in between Ghost of Tom Joadon. What the hell was he doing, man? Fucking pulling his pud. And then before that, he had that double, those two albums, and that was three years between. Three years is respectable. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:23 But Tunnel of Love, 87. Lucky Town, 92. That's a chunk of time right there. Fine, that's good. This guy works slow. I know, I know. Now, you know, he's got, he did Western Stars in 2019,
Starting point is 00:51:37 Letter to You, right when COVID was out. Only the Strong Survive. You know, he's doing good doing good especially for you know he could just look dude could never put out another record lucky town and human touch coming out concurrent like at the same time that was right after use your illusion he was just kind of a year later he put out two albums instead of putting out a double album put out two albums on the same day, which is a weird marketing thing. It's a way to like juke the charts as well or something.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Yeah, I think so. You know, I remember people talking about it sort of like that, who knows? And which one did better than the other? It was kind of weird. Yeah, like they were in competition. Well, of course, Use Your Illusion 1 is always going to do better than 2.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah, of course. Like, I'm only going to buy 2. Yeah, who does that? Who buys, plus 2 is the number of shares. But wasn't 2 better than 1? No, I'm only going to buy two. Yeah. Who does that? Who buys plus two is the number of shit. But wasn't two better than one? No, I think one's better. Oh, it is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:31 But two has like Civil War and... Oh, who gives a shit? We're not talking about them. Yeah, you're right. We're talking about De Boss. De Boss. All right, we have to take a break. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Is that cool with you? Yeah. I can't wait cool with you? Yeah. I can't wait to talk about this album. Yeah, when we come back, we're going to go into a little bit of his history, and then we're going to talk about, we're going to listen to the songs on the album. What's it called? Greetings from Asbury Park, New Jersey. That's the one.
Starting point is 00:53:02 That's the one that's the one we're gonna do all of that when we come back on you spring and springsteen on my bean we'll be right back in a sec we're back new spring and springsteen on my bean i was texting someone nope no you're not texting anyone i'm i'm what are you doing? Bringing the album up on my phone so I can be looking at it. I promise. Although if you were to text Bruce, I wouldn't mind it. Oh, sure. Just texted him. Oh, good. I just do the the fart emoji. Just kidding. Just kidding. Let's go into a little bit about the history before we get into this. Let's see. Real briefly. Yeah. Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:54:20 The end. Musician. The end. That was as brief as we can do it.'m sorry um no uh so he's in new jersey he's a kid he watches uh the beatles on the ed sullivision i always say ed sullivision this is a big problem when i taped well ed sullivan was on television television. It's an easy mistake to make. No, it makes total, total sense. He saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show, and he wanted a guitar. He's like, give me a fucking guitar.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Right fucking now. Fucking now. He bought his first one for $20. I think he rent, maybe he was even renting one i can't remember anyway but um he he gets a guitar later on his mom takes out a loan for sixty dollars to buy him a nice guitar um which he writes a song about called the wish which we may hear a little interesting down the road a little bit, which I think he sang on Springsteen on Broadway in a very touching moment.
Starting point is 00:55:30 But there's this dude who's dating his sister, who George, I'm gonna, look, this is proving I'm not a super fan. I don't remember any of this shit. This is proving I'm not a super fan. I don't know how to pronounce this. George Theis, I think is his name? Is his sister's boyfriend? Yeah, is his sister's boyfriend or wants to date his sister?
Starting point is 00:55:56 Not sure. By the way, his sister, I don't know whether this is the sister who's in Fast Times at Ridgemont High or not. Oh, Pamela Springsteen? Yeah. She took my picture, one of my first headshots. Oh, she did? Really?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah. Why didn't you mention this in your connections? I completely forgot about that until just now. We got to see these headshots. What are you doing? She took my headshots back in like 1993 or 4, like right when I this is after she's already
Starting point is 00:56:27 background work and stuff she's already like done the album covers for like Tunnel of Love and shit like this she's doing some assholes head shots yeah she did my head shots she was an actress who like sort of got a little bit of work she was in like a horror movie
Starting point is 00:56:44 I think and Fast Times she was in like a horror movie i think in fast times she was in fast times and then she became like a uh well-renowned photographer who yeah took uh the photos of a few uh of her brother's albums and then apparently your headshot some dumb actor who's just starting out she was so super nice uh must have been 1994 or 5, I guess. Wow. I got to see these headshots. God, I don't even know which headshots these were. We got to pull these up.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah. Okay. Okay. But someone, this guy, George, who is dating, oh no, dating Virginia. It's his other sister. Oh, okay. Okay. Never mind all of that. She didn't take my picture. I made that up. Virginia did not Oh, okay. Okay. Never mind all of that.
Starting point is 00:57:26 She didn't take my picture. We still got to see these. I made that up. Virginia did not take your picture. No. It'd be weird if the entire family eventually ended up taking my picture. They all took my picture. You got to collect all these guys taking your picture.
Starting point is 00:57:35 His dad took my picture. So he knocks on the door. The door. The door. That door. That door. That door. And he goes, hey, I hear you play guitar. I'm looking for a guitarist because I want to start a band. And I hear you.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I need a lead guitarist. And Bruce Springsteen's like, okay. He doesn't really know how to play lead all that much. But he's like, yeah, sure. So they start a band called the Castiles. okay yeah he doesn't really know how to play lead all that much but he's like yeah sure so they start a a band called the cast the castiles not a great name the castiles by the way named after the uh brand of shampoo that uh they used this is them this is them that's like naming naming them the head and shoulders.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Which is not a bad name for a band. It's pretty good. The Prells. Is this an original song of theirs? Are they covering something? Baby, I... I can't remember. Wow, everyone just sounded... they're just trying to sound like
Starting point is 00:58:47 the beatles yeah this is the 60s um they're the castiles they play around for a while um castiles break up they do this kind of thing where like They do this kind of thing where like Springsteen gets involved in these bands that kind of like play for a while. Steel Mill is like a trio. I think they play for a while, then they break up. And some of the band members start different ones without some of the ones they don't like anymore. You know, he's in Steel Mill. He's in like the Bruce Springsteen and the somethings.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Yeah. So he's got all these bands that he sort of like the Bruce Springsteen and the Somethings. So he's got all these bands that he's playing around, especially on the Jersey Shore. He's playing a lot of the clubs on the Jersey Shore. And Steel Mill, I think, is... Okay, so this is a weird story. Steel Mill is booked to open on this all-day thing with Boz Skaggs, I think. That's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:59:52 That's a big act to open for. Yeah, so Boz Skaggs is set to do this show. Who else is on this show? This is, you got uh oh grand uh chicago oh no they open for chicago they open for chicago grand funk railroad roy orbison i can tina turner black sabbath uh so they were like doing pretty well they were doing okay so uh So they go to do this Boz Skaggs show, and a big reviewer is there to review Boz Skaggs. Well, you got to come get out there and see Boz. You got to review the Boz when he comes through town, right?
Starting point is 01:00:39 Do you think that's where he got the boss? The Boz. Oh, my God. The Boz and the boss? He ripped this shit off. And Boz Skaggs should sue his ass. Should sue his dumb ass. But they go to open for Boz Skaggs.
Starting point is 01:00:56 There's reviewers there. Boz calls in sick, which I did not realize that was a thing you could do. Does that mean just like calling in cocaine? Probably. thing you could do does that mean just like coke calling in cocaine probably i so the show like is happening and he just like calls up is like hey i'm sick he's in the bahamas yeah the boz homas um i don't get it so uh this reviewer basically is like super loves springsteen so springsteen just comes out and plays the whole show because boz skaggs can't i don't think so i think i think basically but
Starting point is 01:01:29 no one replaces boz at the end he just plays and then the show's over and that's yeah so but but this reviewer goes crazy for him and is like i've seen the future and it's you know this this group and then boz skaggs is like uh never mind i'll be there here i come i feel okay buzz gags shaped hole in the wall that's right um but i also think steel mill is the group that billy graham like offered a recording or like offered a contract oh interesting they turned it down huh steel mill steel mill another uninteresting band name yeah um then he starts the bruce springsteen band um getting there getting there almost there almost like almost there just drop maybe two of those words um and then he meanwhile he i think he finally gets there
Starting point is 01:02:24 with the e3 band and they're they're playing the local clubs and um is it because the stone pony and all these places are on e street is that what happened yes so yeah stone pony is a club that he plays a lot yeah and um they they get the reputation sort of as like a party band like a good time party band right um meanwhile he's writing these songs and he finally gets a recording contract. This is at Columbia Records.
Starting point is 01:02:53 You can even hear some of these demos here. Here's a demo that he did for them. I love what the guy at the beginning is saying. Bruce Springsteen, Columbia Pop Audition, job number 79682, Mary Queen of Arkansas, take one. Mary Queen of Arkansas.
Starting point is 01:03:12 So Springsteen is basically like auditioning just himself with an acoustic guitar. Like to get the contract? Yeah, to get a record contract. These are just like demos of like, here's a bunch of my songs yeah so he sounds pretty good sounds pretty good yeah you can hear four of these on um tracks his box set tracks uh including it's hard to be a saint in the city oh that that was one
Starting point is 01:03:45 part of my background with spring city i wanted to mention is i always thought he was kind of square and then david bowie did this great cover of it's hard to be a saint in the city which made me go like oh i love this song yeah so i went back and got that song yeah um and was kind of like oh this is a good song yeah yeah and bowie does an insane cover where he's singing in a Cockney accent that I guess Springsteen came to the session of and was like, what the fuck is going on? He's like,
Starting point is 01:04:11 when you're out on this street. God, I don't even remember Bowie doing that song. You want to hear a little bit of it? Yeah. What album is it? Is it on an album? It's on his box set.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Sound and Vision. is it on and out it's on his box set uh sound and vision and david bowie is like huge at the time and spring seems i think kind of nobody yeah he comes and is like what the fuck how Bowie switches back and forth between voices. This sounds awesome. I think this, yeah, this is a station-to-station outtake. Oh, okay. All right. Oh, okay. I ran right into the sun And this is like a Casanova With my black jacket and my hair slick sweet
Starting point is 01:05:13 Silver studs on the duds just like a hobby in heat When I struck down the street I could hear its heartbeat The sisters fell back and said Don't that man look pretty? That's awesome said don't that man look pretty that's awesome did you hear that story david spade tells about david bowie no oh it's it's really funny how's it because you know that sketch david space to have where he's a receptionist like and you are yeah um he had pitched David Bowie,
Starting point is 01:05:47 that sketch with David Bowie coming in and him, and David Bowie was like, yeah, that's funny, but I think I want to play that part instead. And David Spade was like, well, that's kind of my, like I want, it was the first time he was doing it. Oh no, this is his first pitch. And he's about to like, if Bowie does it, pitch. Yeah, he's like, I want to. And he's about to, like, if Bowie does it, then. Exactly. He's like, I want it to be a catchphrase.
Starting point is 01:06:09 So he said no to David Bowie. Wow. And Bowie kind of iced him out the rest of the week. The rest of the week. He was kind of pissed. But then at the party, he was like, hey, man, I'm really sorry for, like, kind of being a dick the rest of the week. I understand now what you were trying to do it makes total sense and then they were like friends oh but it was such it was like what a
Starting point is 01:06:32 ballsy thing for like a 20 year old yeah yeah comedian to do is to say no to david bowie because you have i know because like the other side of is you're on snl and you're like well i'd get a sketch on the air right exactly but he had the foresight to know like, yeah, none of this happens. The movie lost and found none of it. That's right. None of it happened.
Starting point is 01:06:50 No lost and found. No Dickie Roberts. No Dickie Roberts. None of it happens unless I do. And you are. And we wouldn't be telling this story on this podcast. No, we wouldn't tell this story.
Starting point is 01:07:00 No. Well, the story wouldn't exist. That's why we wouldn't tell it. Yeah, exactly. Um, anyway, so he auditions for Columbia. this story no well the story wouldn't exist that's why we wouldn't yeah exactly um anyway so he auditions for columbia he gets the gig and um he's about to make this record
Starting point is 01:07:15 and um and this is of course the record we're talking about which is uh what are we talking about greetings from oh yeah asbury park new jersey greetings from asbury park new jersey and so this is after years of them being this party band this bar band party band and but but what's interesting is everyone expects him to do an album of acoustic solo songs like Dylan. Right. Because everyone is kind of going like, oh, this guy's like the new Bob Dylan.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Right. Right. And I guess he shows up to the studio with the E Street Band. He's like, I'm doing it with these guys. Oh, really? Although the other interesting part is it's supposed to be 10 songs and five are supposed to be with the E Street Band and five are supposed to be acoustic. Ac Street band and five are supposed to be acoustic.
Starting point is 01:08:07 And that's how he records it. And you can hear some of these other ones that they ended up cutting off the record. The Angel, no, The Angel's on there, but Jazz Musician, Arabian Nights, and Visitation at Fort Horn. You can hear these on YouTube. And it's just him and the acoustic guitar.
Starting point is 01:08:24 And I think it was supposed to go like one with east street then one acoustic and so they they make a version of it and they send it to clive davis and he does what clive davis always does he goes magic touch i don't hear a single and bruce springsteen like goes, oh, okay. And then writes Blinded by the Light and Spirit in the Night like that day. And goes and records it with, with the band. Like not the full band,
Starting point is 01:08:56 but like four people of the band. He goes and records it with them and sends it back. And Clive Davis is like, oh, these songs are great. And Bruce Springsteen's like cool to work with. Yeah. Unlike Kelly Clarkson in about 30 years.
Starting point is 01:09:08 What did she say? I don't, you don't hear a single, so fuck you. Is that what happened? Yeah, pretty much. Which is also cool. Yeah, both are cool. Both cool approaches.
Starting point is 01:09:21 But yeah, so then they end up cutting three of the songs so that uh blind by the light and spirit in the night which are a little bit longer can be on it um and that's how this album comes to be they did not expect it to be like the east street band like this whole thing yeah they thought he really was just going to be like like they signed like a bob dylan type yeah artist yeah and they expected it to be a little more folk yeah kind of kind of stuff and he his dylan influence is pretty big on this record for sure like you you can definitely like there's a lot of wordplay but he wanted to be more than
Starting point is 01:09:56 that he wanted to yeah to he wanted to be robert dylan not just Bob. Yeah, exactly. The classy version. Yeah, so this is an interesting record where it kind of, I mean, we'll listen to it when we come back, but that's how everything started, Adam. Love it. Or Levitt. Both. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:27 What about Growing Up? Was that recorded? Was that a single? That was one of the demos that he did to get the record. Oh, it is. But an acoustic demo. An acoustic demo, but then he did it with the band. The Broadway show when he just walks out and starts playing that song by himself is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Yeah. It's a great song. All we're gonna take a break when we come back we're gonna listen to this record you ready for this hell yeah all right let's do it we'll be right back with more you spring and springsteen on my bean after this See, this is all we want, Bruce, is we want you to do a song where it's like, Well, my name's R. Adam and Scott. A song about us. For us. For us. But listened to by everyone.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Everybody. And we would also like it to chart. Yes, we want it to be on the Billboard Hot 100 certainly. It would be better if it was in the top 40. Top 10 would be even better. I mean, that would be nice.
Starting point is 01:11:35 That would be nice. It's nice. And then we could listen to it and talk about and make my wife jokes too. Definitely. Yeah, that would be nice.
Starting point is 01:11:52 It would just be really sweet. Really cool. This is all we want. We could also, because he like name checks us, maybe it'd be bucco dolores for you and i that's the thing is is you know we're not just gonna sign over the rights to singing about us we're not stupid we want a development deal out of this baby yeah you want to you want to use our life rights in a song bruce you want to use that so bad yeah you're gonna have to break out the checkbook you better believe it uh-huh i'm glad we got all this info in there so he knows so we know yeah but but i fully expect episode two to
Starting point is 01:12:32 for him to be the guest because otherwise the demands start going up look he didn't contact us by the middle of this episode so that's why we added the that's right all this new information that's right and we have our attorney now he's in the room with... That's right. All this new information. That's right. And we have our attorney now. He's in the room with us. He's keeping track of everything. Yep. That's him. Rothschild leanings.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Rothschild leanings. And he's already... Esquire. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you have to say that. But he's already, you know, drawing up all the paperwork and stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Well, all the... Hey, that's what we promise you. All the paperwork, it's going to be done by the time you reach out to us don't even worry don't even you're not going to have to pay a paralegal we're taking care of it we'll take care of the notary everything yeah we take care of you bruce you're a notary public right you're already yeah yeah i learned how to be one in the bill Madison school that I just did. And are you officially licensed by the city? By the state, but not by the city. So I can't do it in any city. Do you have to go outside the county line of Los Angeles in order to operate?
Starting point is 01:13:37 I have to go outside the state. Oh, yeah. Because otherwise I'm in a city. No, you're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:43 So we have to hop on a flight to nevada at least yeah when it's at least at the very least okay you know we can fly to japan yeah i mean like it doesn't matter really but i mean on bruce's dime uh bro let's go to fucking costa rica aruba oh and that's jamaica no just aruba okay okay all right you ready to hear this record yeah let's do some stats wait yep i'm sorry is this an episode of you ready to hear this record i think it is hey everyone ready everyone not welcome to i'm not ready now i'm ready everyone welcome to, I'm not ready, now I'm ready. Everyone, welcome to, are you ready to hear this record? This is Scott. And this is Scott.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And I gotta ask. Yeah. How have you been? I've been great, you know, I've just, I feel like I've been spending a lot of time getting ready. Interesting. You know, that ties in to something I wanted to ask. What's that? How much time have you been spending?
Starting point is 01:14:47 Three months. Three months? Or 12 weeks. Okay, okay. I'm thinking 13 weeks might be a little more accurate. Okay. 13 weeks. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:14:59 If that'll satisfy your curiosity. I think it will. Okay. You ready to hear this record? Oh, yeah. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Huh. I don't know. I don't know. It's sort of like eating popcorn. It's like not a full meal, but- Sort of like eating shit. I have a stomach- Eating shit.
Starting point is 01:15:24 All right. What are the stats? This record came out on January 5th of 1973. This is the 50th anniversary of this record. Can you imagine? Wow. 50 years. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:15:39 It came out in 1973. He didn't even live to be 50. No. 33. Okay. 50 years old, this album. This album is 50 years old, recorded at Sound Studios in New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Produced by Micah Pell and Jim Kretikos. Did they produce any of his other records Micah Pell is early career Bruce Springsteen he was oh yeah he did
Starting point is 01:16:16 the Wild Innocent he co-produced Born to Run and then everyone was like bye bye see you later um and jim credit coast doesn't even have a wikipedia page so that's how but hey i bet he made a pretty penny he made although this did not sell well from what it did stand until you know. I'm sure he did make a pretty penny later. In 2003, album ranked at number 379
Starting point is 01:16:48 in Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time. It's also, Rolling Stone named it as one of the 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time. Hmm. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They tried to save as much as possible
Starting point is 01:17:08 out of Columbia Records advance and so they cut most of the songs during one week that is crazy the bare naked lady special what
Starting point is 01:17:19 one week eh hey wah hey wah hey wah hey wah alright let's let's hear these songs One week. Eh. He-wa. He-wa. He-wa.
Starting point is 01:17:27 He-wa. All right, let's hear these songs one at a time. What do you say? Yes. All right, this is how it kicks off, Adam. I always like an album. I like the first song to be good. Yeah, you like it to kick off. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:17:40 Like a football game. Otherwise, look, there's temptation. I might just go like, eh, no thank you. I'll turn it off. I like the first song to suck. All right, well, let's see if this one does. This is Blinded by the Light by Bruce Springsteen. Spring and Springsteen on my hand.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Madman drummers, bummers, and Indians In the summer with a teenage diplomat In the dumps with the mumps as the adolescent pumps his way into his hat with a boulder on my shoulder feeling kind of older i trip the merry-go-round with this very unpleasing sneezing and wheezing, the calliope crashed to the ground. Some old hot hat shot was hitting for a hot spot, snapping his fingers, clapping his hands. And some flashed by mascot was tied to a lover's knot with a whatnot in her hand. And now young Scott with a slingshot finally found a tender spot and throws his lover in the sand. In her hand Oh, cut loose like a deuce, another runner in the night. Blinded by the light.
Starting point is 01:19:29 She got down, but she never got tight. But she'll make it. All right. All right, Blinded by the Light. Now, I knew this song because of the hit single version of it by Manford Mann. This is Earth Band. That was the popular version. God, I don't remember that.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Do you want to hear a little bit of that one? Yeah. When was this? The Blinded by the Light, the Manford Mann version was, yeah, it was the number one single. It was 76. 1976. And you, really, so you didn't know that, because that was the version that I knew. So I was surprised that Bruce Springsteen wrote this when I heard this album for the first time i i mean maybe i'll recognize it okay let's hear it
Starting point is 01:20:28 it also it sounds like wrapped up like a douche oh yeah yeah right Oh, yeah. Yeah, right. To which Springsteen's joked about. It really does sound like that. Because he changed the lyrics a little bit. Springsteen's joked about that he changed the song to be about a feminine hygiene product. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:01 But this was like the big hit single version. Yeah. I for sure heard that. And it sort of was like Springsteen got this rep early on of like, well, maybe his records aren't going to be popular, but other people can cover his songs. Because Patti Smith. Patti Smith and the Pointer Sisters and a bunch of people covered his songs.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Sort of like what people did with Dylan where a bunch of people covered his songs sort of like what people did with dylan where the birds right hit songs out of his stuff where did the pointer sisters fire oh romeo and julia yeah um so and manfred man i did several springsteen songs and uh that was their big hit that was their number one hit. So that was the version I always knew was that. And so when I went back and got this album, I'm like, oh, wow, he wrote this. Oh, interesting. What do we think of Blinded by the Light? I love it.
Starting point is 01:21:54 I mean, it sounds, you know, you definitely, it doesn't sound like the E Street Band really ends up sounding like. It doesn't sound like them live either. It sounds very studio-y. ends up sounding like it doesn't sound like them live either it sounds very this whole record kind of has like sort of thin smaller production than i would like in a way but it but the songs are the songs are really good yeah um but yeah it doesn't like like it doesn't sound like for instance when they've done it on east street band tours no they'll they'll make a bigger production out of it but it's cool it's a good song and and it sounds like the kind of studio style of the time the studio trickery of the time
Starting point is 01:22:31 yeah almost sounds like almost doobie brothersy a little bit a lot of rhymes yes it's like he's showing off yes that's a very kind of dylan-y yeah couplets and stuff. Yeah. So I think Lester Bangs talked about Springsteen of like, oh, he writes like Dylan. He sings like Dylan mixed with Van Morrison and his band sounds like Van Morrison. He's great. Yeah. Yeah. He sounds like these other things. Great.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Wasn't there some critic that at the time robert costigan or something called him like like there's absurdly energetic or something right backhanded complimenting yeah absurd um so blinded by the light starts pretty good that's one of the ones that he wrote uh when they were like hey there's no single and he's like well check this out and it turned out to be a number one so this was someone else oh right right but not at the time absurdist energy is what you call absurdist energy what the fuck i'm talking about um yeah that's okay so that was a single and it did not do particularly well for bruce springsteen no no it was the first single off this record and uh the the whole record did not really sell incredibly well at the time. But it got good notices, and I think Clive Davis was like,
Starting point is 01:23:53 oh, this guy's good to work with. So they went ahead and did the next record, which we'll talk about on our next episode. All right, let's hear the second song. This is the aforementioned Growing Up on you springing springsteen on my beat well i stood stone like at midnight suspended in my masquerade and i combed my hair That was just right And commanded the night brigade I was open to pain
Starting point is 01:24:31 And crossed by the rain And I walked on a crooked crutch I strolled all along To a fall I thought Came out with my soul untouched I hid in the cloud And ratt than crab when they set it down, I stood up. Ooh, growing up. Growing up, Adams.
Starting point is 01:25:04 It's tough to do, but you got to do it. That's what they always say. Growing up, Adams. It's tough to do, but you gotta do it. That's what they always say. I'd like to maybe not do it anymore. Like Peter Pan? Are you gonna be a... I'd like to be a 50-something Peter Pan. This is like, hey, could I stop growing up now? In fact, could I shave 10 years off?
Starting point is 01:25:25 Can I go back to 43, please? How do we feel about growing up? I love this song very, very much. One of my faves. Of his ever? Yeah. I love growing up. Me too.
Starting point is 01:25:36 And I love this version of it too. And I was talking about It's Hard to Be a Saint in the City, how I got into that song through Bowie. Some of these songs, these Springsteen songs, I got into from covers. For instance, Born to Run. I don't think I'd ever heard it, but I heard the Frankie Goes to Hollywood version. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:25:57 A lot, because that record, Welcome to the Pleasure Dome, is incredible. And Born to Run is on that album? They do a cover of Born to Run, and it's great. So it got me to like that song but growing up is another one of those where uh the david bowie does do it although i wasn't as familiar he's just growing up let's hear a little bit of his growing up this wasn't the one that i first heard um this was a diamond dogs outtake that they put as a bonus track on his covers record what a compliment that all these guys were covering his songs back then yeah i mean bowie i think just was really fascinated with him for a period.
Starting point is 01:26:53 You hear that Diamond Dogs cowbell definitely. It's great. But the version that I loved was by a band called Any Trouble who did a record called Where Are All The Nice Girls? And it was, this is a great record all the way through. But this is, I think, the first version that I heard.
Starting point is 01:27:08 And I just was like, oh my God, this is an awesome song. This is a Springsteen song? I was over the plane across by the rain And I walked on a blue-maned crutch And I strolled all alone through the far-light zone Came out with my soul untouched I stood in the mud and had a drive When we settled down off the run Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh This is rad.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Who is this? Any Trouble. Huh. You should get their record, Where Are All the Nice Girls. It's a great record. Every single song is amazing. Who is this? Any Trouble. Huh. You should get their record, Where Are All the Nice Girls. It's a great record. Every single song is amazing. Any Trouble.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Any Trouble from Stiff Records. That would be funny if they were Any Trouble and there was no bass on any of their songs. That'd be funny. I like that. Eddie Vedder also does a cover. We'll hear a little bit of Eddie Vedder's version. He just put it out. Maybe a year ago? also does a cover. We'll hear a little bit of Eddie Vedder's version. He just put it out, maybe... Name that tune.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Maybe a year ago, two years ago? Well, I stood stoned like a midnight Suspending in my masquerade All right, Eddie. I combed my hair to lose it We get it. Come on, man. Sing your own songs.
Starting point is 01:28:22 That album of theirs is not on Apple Music. This is another reason you got to buy your music, man. Sing your own songs. That album of theirs is not on Apple Music. This is another reason you got to buy your music, Adam. Where? CDs and shit. Oh, yeah. I'll send you some MP3s. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:38 So growing up, probably my favorite song on the record. Yeah. It's great. It really is. And I love the record. Yeah, it's great. It really is. And I love this version. Yeah. So that's two full bands, or full-ish bands,
Starting point is 01:28:51 not the complete E Street band yet, but songs. And then we have, next up is Mary Queen of Arkansas, which we heard a little bit of his demo earlier. This is Mary Queen of Arkansas, track three on side one, you spring and springsteen on my bean
Starting point is 01:29:09 mary queen of arkansas Mary Queen of Arkansas It's not too early for dreaming The sky is grown with cloud seeds sown And a bastard's love can be redeeming Mary my queen Your soft whole guilt reviving Oh you're not too late to desecrate All right.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Mary. I wonder if there should be a comma in there or a parenthesis. Mary. Mary. Parenthesis. Queen of Arkansas. You know who I'm talking about. Queen of Arkansas.
Starting point is 01:30:50 I think that's a great idea. Let's talk to him. That's the other thing, Bruce. Hey, you haven't gotten a hold of us. Our new demand? Yeah. Put parentheses in all future and previous copies of this record. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:04 future and previous copies of this record. Yes. And any song that you write about us, any of them, parentheses up the yin yang. We need those parentheses. We need a ton of them. Parentheses within parentheses. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:19 I feel like this song is a kind of thing that he does better later on. It would be interesting if this was what his career was. Because I think this is what they expected of him. Yeah. They wanted to slot him into this category. And instead he was like, let me write faster songs. With my brother back here.
Starting point is 01:31:55 I can't say that's ever been one of my favorites. I don't know that I have the patience to ever listen to it again. Nope. But I'm sure fans of his love it. Yep. I would imagine it's one that people freak out if he plays it live and stuff, but it probably is pretty good live where it's just like, I'm going to slow it the fuck down. I'm going to bring it to a screeching halt.
Starting point is 01:32:22 All right. This is a track four side one. This is, does this bus stop at 82nd street actually has a question mark in it i'm am i am i emphasizing the right words maybe it should be does this bus stop at 82nd street does this bus stop at 82nd street wait does this bus stop at 82nd street does this bus stop at 82nd street does this bus stop at 82nd street does this bus stop at 82nd Street? Does this bus stop at 82nd Street? Does this bus stop at 82nd Street? Does this bus stop at 82nd Street?
Starting point is 01:32:50 Does this bus stop at 82nd Street? Does this bus stop at 82nd Street? I think we've covered them all. All right. All right, here we go. Does this bus stop at 82nd Street by Bruce Springsteen? A lot of that signature E Street Band piano on this album. I already got that locked in.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Give us driver, keep the change. Bless your children, give them names. Don't trust men who come with hands. Give them names. Yeah, I hope so. Yeah. Drink this and you'll grow wings on your feet. Broadway, Mary Joan Fontaine. the things. Yeah, I hope so. Yeah. Dark workers' dreams mixed with panther schemes To someday own the rodeo Tainted women in this division
Starting point is 01:33:50 Perform for out-of-state kids at the late show Wizard imps and sweat sock pimps Interstellar mongrel nymphs Oh, Rex said that lady left him limp Loves like that, he sure does The song has no chorus, by the way. It's just... Is that right? It's just this. Yeah, I like it a lot.
Starting point is 01:34:16 I like it. Maybe for that reason. It's only two minutes as well. It's based on a bus ride he took to visit a girlfriend in uptown Manhattan. Oh, interesting. And I think he must have asked us. Yeah. It's based on a bus ride he took to visit a girlfriend in Uptown Manhattan. Wow. Interesting. And I think he must have asked the bus driver the titular question. Does this bus stop at 82nd Street?
Starting point is 01:34:37 No. Okay. Okay. Can I get off on 81st? Sit my fanny right back down. Can I get off on 81st? Sit my fanny right back down. My cute little tush that you'll see on the cover of Born in the USA
Starting point is 01:34:50 in 11 years. Oh, okay. So it ends right there. Or it's ending right here. And it kind of goes into the next song, Lost in the Flood. It doesn't go into it. But when I was listening to it yesterday, I was kind of like, is this the same song?
Starting point is 01:35:12 Yeah. I like this song. This is Lost in the Flood. Yeah. He walks through town all alone. He must be from the fort. He hears the high school girls say His countryside's burning
Starting point is 01:35:29 With wolfmen fairies Dressed in drag for homicide They hit and run Plead sanctuary Beneath the holy stone they hide They're breaking beams and crosses With the spastics reeling perfection Nuns run bald through Vatican halls
Starting point is 01:35:56 Pregnant, pleading immaculate conception And everybody's wrecked on Main Street From drinking unholy blood Sticker smiles sweet as gunner breeze deep His ankles caked in mud And I said, hey, got a mad nice quicksand That's quicksand, that ain't mud Lost in the Flood. What about a Vietnam vet, perhaps?
Starting point is 01:36:45 Or a broken vet, perhaps? Yeah. Or a broken-down town? Seemingly about a veteran. By the way, one of the Castiles... That's an important part of the story. I think one of the Castiles went to Vietnam and was killed in Vietnam. Oh, is that right? And the guy who recruited him for the Castiles, who was dating his sister,
Starting point is 01:37:04 they broke up, but he still was friends throughout the years religious themes a lot of it's almost like going to a poetry slam in a way that happens to have a musical beat behind it you know what I mean where it's
Starting point is 01:37:24 like it's just it's a bunch of words to evoke images you know yeah i i like the song fine but again i feel like um i was getting it mixed up with something else when i was like oh i love this one where you were thinking of one of your children i was thinking of i love good David Bowie song. No, I like it. But again, I feel like he gets better at this as it goes along. And he uses sort of less words. He's like showing off a little less.
Starting point is 01:38:04 But I think this is very much like what made critics like him is like, oh, my God, listen to all these words and the imagery. And like, oh, wow, he's really it's so evocative yeah um it's incredible like you know it's if for this to be a debut album i i can see why people freaked out a little bit um that's the undecide one then you got what comes after one two not one and a half wait a second second. Are you sure? If you're lucky. Okay. This is The Angel. It's about a song about John Travolta and the movie Michael.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Hmm. 20 years later. Ugh. Kyphosis. With hunchback children. Ugh. Poison oozing from his engine. Wielding love as a lethal weapon On his way to hubcap heaven Baseball cards
Starting point is 01:39:21 poked in his spokes His boots in oil He's patiently soaked The roadside attendant Nervously jokes As the angels time stroke his precious pavement
Starting point is 01:39:54 while the interstates joked with no what do we think about the angel it's fine it's fine. Yeah, it's a little more of the, like... I like the imagery, hubcap heaven. Boy, that'd be exciting to go to.
Starting point is 01:40:12 I would love to check that out. When I die, that's all I want is just to see a whole bunch of hubcaps. Bunch of hubcaps. I think that's a... I think he's referencing, like, a real place. Is this the... Did he sing this on this latest tour? No, he hardly has ever this one.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Yeah. He's hardly ever saying this live. Um, not, uh, not one of his favorites. Nor mine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:42 It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. But, hey, coming up, track two, side two. Let's do it. This is a song, guess who, for you. Aw, thanks. Thanks. Princess card she sends me With her regards
Starting point is 01:41:13 Oh, borrow my shine vacancy To see her you gotta look hard Wounded deep in battle I stand stuffed like some soldier undaunted To her jester smile I'll stand on fire She's all I ever wanted Oh, but you let your blue walls get in the way of these facts Had to get your carpetbaggers off my back
Starting point is 01:41:43 You wouldn't even give me time to cover my tracks You said, here's your mirror and your ball and jacks But they're not what I came for And I'm sure you see that too I came for you, for you, I came for you But you did not need my urgency I came for you, for you, I came for you, but you did not need my urgency. I came for you, for you, I came for you, but your life was one long emergency. And your cloud line urgency.
Starting point is 01:42:14 For my electric... For you, Adam. Mm-hmm. Were crawling to my... Now, this is my one quibble. I like this song. Mm-hmm. Now, my one quibble, I like this song.
Starting point is 01:42:32 And one way that I can tell I like a song is if I see the title and I know what the chorus is, like without hearing it. And so I know this, for you. My one quibble is that a lot of these early songs have the exact same beat that he's doing. The sort of hard to be the same the city like like especially this drumming style album yeah it's like yeah this was also covered by manford man another uh like hoping to strike gold again with uh like blinded by the light this is their version sounds a little like blinded by the light it sounds a lot like it so they're like let's let's just fucking do it again sounds like jukebox hero yeah i want to hear how they get into it it sounds pretty good actually
Starting point is 01:43:21 uh-oh slowing it down into it. It sounds pretty good, actually. Uh-oh. Slowing it down. Not quite as good. Nope. Shouldn't have slowed it down. Nope. Oh, that sounds good. I like the Main Street Electrical Parade aspect. Yeah. I love their sound. Electrical Parade aspect. Yeah. It's really... Of their sound. It really sounds like that.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Oh, they changed it to the same way. Interesting. That's so funny. Greg Kin also does a version of it. What do we think? I like it. I mean, it sounds, like it i mean it sounds like you said very much like this album i can see why they were like we need a couple more potential singles on this they're they're all i like the band songs on this album a lot i'm not huge into the i can see why he
Starting point is 01:44:21 wanted to the angel yeah and mary queen yeah um Well, next up is one of the songs that he wrote to save the record. This is Spirit in the Night. And this doesn't have the same beat, which I'm happy about. This is Spirit in the Night by Bruce Springsteen. ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ And all rooted up for Saturday night Well, Billy slammed on his coaster brakes And said anybody would want to go on up to Greasy Lake It's about a mile down on the dark side of Route 88
Starting point is 01:45:17 I got a bottle of rose from Australia Well, pick up Hazy Davey and Killer Joe And I'll take you all out to where the gypsy angels go They're built like life Ooh, and they dance like spirits Hell of a night Hell of a night Oh, you don't know what they can do to you
Starting point is 01:45:44 Spirits Hell of a night Oh, hell of a night It's kind of funny to think like, because that song doesn't sound like any of the other songs on the record. And is technically a classic. He plays it a lot. Funny that he's just like, okay, let me try this. I know. With both of those songs. Yeah, and just is like oh okay blind by the light is it's similar to some of the other songs with the beat and everything but that's nothing like it so he's just like how does
Starting point is 01:46:14 he how does he go like oh let me try this with a totally different beat and sound that i've been doing it's like a different genre almost it's yeah really funny. It's a good song. It's a really good one. You know who else covered it? Who? Manfred Mann. Jesus Christ. They have another gear? Interesting.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Does it kick in? They changed it to spirits in the night. Oh. Oh. it to spirits in the night. Oh. Well, on Man for Man's Apple Music page, the first four songs are blinded
Starting point is 01:46:53 by the light. Wow, they did Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan exclusively. It's like, hey, write your own fucking songs. I mean, yeah, whatever. I don't know about that. All right, so it's kind of weird
Starting point is 01:47:18 that they bury Spirit in the Night solo, but maybe because it doesn't have that beat. Yeah. But it's become a uh certainly a classic yeah and it was a single right wasn't it or no uh the singles from this record were uh yeah spirit in the night and blinded by the light okay this is the final song this is uh we heard the bowie version of it a little bit earlier this is it's hard to be a saint in the city this is the final song. This is, we heard the Bowie version of it a little bit earlier.
Starting point is 01:47:45 This is It's Hard to Be a Saint in the City. This is the last song on side two. This is Bruce Springsteen on, you springin' Springsteen, on my bean. This could be the first song, or Growing Up should maybe be the first song. All right. We'll talk about sequencing.
Starting point is 01:48:17 I had skin like leather and the diamond heart look of a cobra. I was born blue and weathered, but I burst just like a supernova. I could walk like Brando right into the sun. Dance just like a Casanova. With my black jacket and jacket and hair slick sweet. Silver star studs on my duds like a Harley in heat. When I stood down the street, you're ending the album. Yeah, it sounds like something you'd front load. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Like you feel like you would end it with, you know, one of those slower things. Maybe. Yeah, but what do we think of that song? Or the bus stop at 82nd Street or something. Yeah, it's like, and then end the album with the guy going, All right, we're here. Get the fuck off, asshole. Yeah, it's like, and then end the album with the guy going, alright, we're here! Get the fuck off, asshole! Ding, ding!
Starting point is 01:49:30 What do we think of that song? I like that song. I like that song a lot. I think the four classics on this record are Blinded by the Light, Growing Up, Hard to Be a Saint, and Spirit in the Night. Yeah, I would agree with that. Those are kind of the ones that have lasted those are
Starting point is 01:49:45 the unimpeachable classics the others i would for you i would say is is my next favorite and then i don't i can't say that i ever really listened to mary queen or bus or lost in the flood or the angel all that much yeah um and then as far as sequencing goes, I mean, growing up, I mean, like you said, he came out on Broadway and started his thing about that. Yeah, and it was perfect. And it's perfect. It kind of says everything about his whole thing in a way. Maybe put that first. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:50:16 But Blinded by the Light is a big, his single, so I can understand putting it first. But growing up is kind of everything. Wasn't that like the rule back then was like the first big single is the first song and it's the first song on side two as well because you always like whatever side yep you're playing at a party you want the first song to be like oh yeah and everyone's like the easiest one to like pick it up and go back to yeah exactly um so that i think if you just switch the first two and open the up with grown up and then blind by the light yeah and then maybe i don't know if blinded by the light into hard to be a saint
Starting point is 01:50:54 would be good because they're pretty similar but i mean track one of side two hard to be a saint yeah that's what i would do that instead of the or spirit in the night yeah good shit man yeah what do we think what do we think about this record i think it's terrific uh but knowing what's coming i would say it's just kind of an amuse bouche for it's a lot like how when i watch a movie i'm like man these first 15 minutes really terrific but should i stop here maybe i'll just walk out yeah and i do that a lot yeah because you like movies that are 15 minutes long yeah i may be thinking of viral videos oh yeah i was too yeah when i go to the movie theater to see a viral video can you imagine if you every time if like phones and internet wasn't around but people were making viral videos so
Starting point is 01:51:45 you had to go to the movie i mean i guess that's short that's three students shorts yeah that's basically the beginning of filmed entertainment is what we're talking about can you imagine this thing which happened um all right well good stuff yeah 1973 50th anniversary um we did it we covered it how long till his next album his next album comes out november 5 of the same year that is nuts so we're coming up on the 50th anniversary of it and uh i mean that's just pumping out product and Content. And then after that is Born to Run, right? So he has two albums. In a couple years. Yeah, in almost two years later.
Starting point is 01:52:30 Yeah. All right. But we'll talk about The Wild, The Innocent, and The E Street Shuffle on our next episode. Adam, any final thoughts? Absolutely not. Why would you? I mean, what? We already talked about everything i said it all
Starting point is 01:52:47 we're gonna come up with more thoughts no way come on there's no way we can think of anything hey okay i think this has to be an episode of a different show that we have how did this one go from from chronic to collapse chronic to collapse into town town and into now that is respectively this is are you talking rem remy the comprehensive and competitive encyclopedic of all things rem this is good rock and roll music um i sent you a picture of this but my friend dan mangan who's a great great musician, his friend somehow worked in or has a connection to the REM camp and dropped off a lot of merch,
Starting point is 01:53:52 including a jacket. And I want to give it to you. Talk while I get it right now. An REM jacket is sort of something I've always felt is important to me. I've always wanted one I want a jacket that has the name
Starting point is 01:54:10 of my favorite band on it because whenever I'm cold I feel I need my favorite band as close to me oh my god this is so much stuff set lists, posters, stickers singles and here is like it kind of looks like a letterman jacket i don't
Starting point is 01:54:26 from the work from the work tour i don't know whether it'll fit you but uh here it is this is incredible the the work tour is like the not the warped tour but the work tour yeah what if rem was on the warped tour that would have been an odd fit um this is awesome so a bunch of stuff you know don't feel like you have to keep it all but uh dan made a special trip to my house just kind of was like are you around today this is so nice dropped a bunch of stuff off please uh tell him thank you you would appreciate it okay shit so uh that's uh i can tell you which tours these were by looking at the uh well aren't you a fucking rain man? What a dick.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Alright. Wow. REM Radiohead. I had to do that on mic, otherwise I would have forgotten about it. And I can't have that stuff sitting in my house a second longer. You want me to take all this stuff? Yeah, or throw it away. Do whatever the fuck you want. No fuck you want but it's not it's not my problem anymore okay naomi's gonna be so happy when she sees me walk in with more shit all right that's gonna do it for this episode uh we're gonna come
Starting point is 01:55:41 back and talk about his next record you excited to do this Adam oh hell yeah hell yeah it's time alright we're going to see you next time on you springing springsteen on my bean but until then we hope that
Starting point is 01:55:59 you certainly find what you're looking for bye Find what you're looking for Bye

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