U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Springin' Springsteen On My Bean? - High Hopes

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

Scott and Scott go track by track through Springo’s eighteenth studio album, High Hopes (as well as the following American Beauty EP), a collection of older songs, cover songs and outtakes that Da Boss still considers one of his proper records. They learn how the Netflix show Lilyhammer directly led to High Hopes and craft their own ultimate editions of the album. Plus: elementary school square dances, and the eternal question, “What is it?”

I'm born in the USA to death to my hometown this is you springing Springsteen on my bean. The comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things Bruce. This is good rock and roll music. And Adam, you were playing air guitar and you were jamming along. I truly feel like I've converted you. To that song?

Yes. You like it now. No. I don't. I don't like that song. But you were jamming. Well, you know. What else is there to do?

Those are some hot licks. What am I supposed to do? Hot licks in service of a bad song is what? Yeah. What is it? What is it? Come on. Is this an episode of What Is It?

I guess so. Hey, everyone. Welcome to What Is It? This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're trying to figure out what things are. What is it? You know what I mean?

Like, name any subject. Books. What are these things? What is it? Seriously. It's like, is any collection of paper bound together with a spine? And then what do you bind it with? Glue?

Sometimes glue, sometimes a string. Sometimes a combination of both. How about string what what what is it it's like some sort of material that's uh uh layered together in order to create some sort of a rope uh it's small very small rope why don't you just call it small rope small rope hey that's what it is that's what it is string is rope. I'm not saying dock your boat with it. No. It would break. Why don't they call rope big string? Big string.

Bye. No sense of harmony. No sense of time. Don't mention harmony. Say what is it? What is it? What is it? Huh.

Man. These guys are thinking on a different level. Yeah. Playing five-dimensional chess. I feel like they're leaving no stone unturned. Well, stones. Wait a minute. We got to go back. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, everyone. Welcome to What Is It? This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're talking about what things are, and look, we forgot one in our last episode. Stones. What is it? What are these things?

What the hell is going on? I mean, you're walking along down by the riverbank. Right. And then suddenly, gunk. You're stepping on something. It's hot because it's in the sun. It's like, fucking shit, bro. Come on, dude, stop it. And then you hot because it's in the sun. It's like fucking shit, bro. Come on, dude. Stop it. And then you look. It's not a dude.

No, it's certainly not. It's like some sort of- Sedentary- Yeah. Amalgam. Sediment. A lot of molecules packed together densely. But you can pick it up.

No, certainly if you were to try to pick it up and the molecules were too far apart your hand would just go right through it go right through it like air these molecules are tight yeah they're they're it's almost like they're they've been like packed together like a diamond yeah what diamonds what is it what are these things what the what is it what the fuck are these things what is it i've never even seen one in person of you i don't i don't think they exist i don't know i don't i don't think anyone's ever seen one in person yeah that's why they're so rare and so expensive expensive what is that what is it what what are we even talking about come on guys why come on why reign it Reign it in. Reign it in, guys. Who knows?

Who cares? Who gives even one shit, let alone five? Who gives ten shits? Who? You know what? I can care about this thing in less than ten shits. I'll take that ten shits and I'll raise... Ten shits. Ten shits.

What are these things? What is it? What is it? Why can't you just take one shit when you're a baby and then you're done with it? And then that's it for life. For life. I'm tired of this. You have to take 10 shits over a lifetime. Wait.

We are vastly different. 10. You take 10 a day. I take 10 a day. You only take 10 in your entire life? Entire lifetime. Wow. Wow. Yeah.

What's your secret? Secrets. What are these things? What is it? We don't have time for this on this episode. We got to get to it in the next episode. We could keep going though. Next episode, we're going to talk about secrets.

Oh. We're going to talk about 11 shits. We have so much to cover. 11 shits? What is it? We can't. We can't. We can't, Adam.

What is it? We can't. We got to go. Okay. Bye. Bye. Bye. and shits what is it we can't we can't we can't adam we can't we gotta go okay bye i have a new favorite show me too but i it's not that one by the way no no me neither i feel like they're not really getting to any answers they just just ask, what is it? And then they freak out and then they ask what something else is. It's not like Stuff You Should Know where they raise a topic and then they answer the questions.

These guys are just kind of raising the questions and then they're a couple of nations. Yeah. Then they just admit they have no idea. And they leave it up to the listener, I guess. I don't know. I guess. I don't know. Anyway, it's pretty good though.

Yeah. Very yeah very very very good yep um i gotta introduce you man thanks i have to i've done too many episodes where i don't introduce you and people are sitting there going like who are we even talking what is this um you notice in in what is what is it yeah what is that what is it what is it What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? That's Faith No More. Who is that? That's Faith No More. In Comedy Bang Bang this week, we... Were you visited by Faith No More members?

No. Eugene Cordero did a character who kept saying, what is it? Oh, really? From the Faith No More song. Is that the big hit they had uh i think yeah what is it yeah i don't remember that we got okay we got that wonderful song uh but uh i'll i'll look for it while i introduce you but uh epic is the uh title of that song by

the way but uh why don't we hear it right now before I introduce you? This is Epic. Let's find the what is it. Oh, there it is. What is it? Oh, my God. That's right. Jesus.

Oh, boy. Let me introduce this guy. He is an actor. He is a singer. He's a dancer. He's a raconteur. He is going on a worldwide tour this year. Come see me in your city.

Showing off all of these skills, sometimes individually, sometimes at once. He's doing a solo arena tour. 365 dates, too, I think you're doing uh next year yeah or this year rather uh which you're taking one day off which is leap day right yep luckily because otherwise it would have been uh one year and one day uh long tour right yeah that's too long too long but he's going out there you're gonna see him in in uh whatever town you're in he's definitely gonna go to it out tickets there's tickets on sale and you can get all the information at gofuckyourself.com please welcome adam scott hey everybody thank you thanks yeah and you want to introduce me man this is the man with the fan. I have a giant fan like Beyonce does when I do these podcasts, just point it up at my chin. Is that a wind guard you have just so it doesn't get picked up on mic?

Yeah, so I have a huge fan blowing in order to tussle my hair while I do the podcast. I mean, it looks great. It's just an audio format. Unfortunately, yeah, it would be too loud if the mics were able to pick it up. i have a giant like sneeze guard kind of thing yeah right in front of it blocking it so it doesn't actually reach my face but the sneeze guard is so dirty because of all the sneezes that i can't see you no but that's just on one side of it the fan the fan blows the other side of everyone else's sneezes off right which is a problem because all the sneeze is going my face yeah exactly anyway that's my process some call me a weirdo well it is weird but i don't think so uh please welcome me scott ackerman scott ackerman everybody the sneeze man sneezing scott

they used to call me and sneezing all the way to the bank that's right and boy when they see me at the bank they all put up their sneeze guard that's right that's a lot of people don't know um they think those that's like bulletproof glass no it's just sneeze guards yeah exactly they may as well just have a little bowl of uh cucumbers there i don't know what you mean well it's like a salad bar oh yeah because there's usually among the choices there's cucumbers right yeah i mean i guess if i were doing that joke i would not to critique no let's let's take it apart i would maybe go with the more straight like oh there'd be a bowl of romaine lettuce croutons croutons would probably tell me something because when you say cucumbers i start to think of what I put on my eyes when I go to the spa.

That's the primary usage of cucumbers. I love it. Gets those eye bags running for the hills. Oh, no. Here's cucumbers. Let's go. Let's go. Everybody grab your shit.

Let's go. Oh, wait. Is this an episode of... Yes. Hey, everyone. Welcome to... This is Scott. And this is Scott. Okay, bye.

Bye. okay bye love to hear those guys again sophomore episode yeah I believe so yeah I think they only put out one and everyone thought it was a one and done no those guys came back they're in it for the long haul apparently Adam you got your your topo there got my topo It was a one and done. No, those guys came back. They were in it for the long haul, apparently.

Adam, you got your Topo there. Got my Topes. I got sunglasses. I got regular glasses. I got an iPhone. Your worldly possessions up to this point are all there on the table in front of me. I bring all of my possessions to your house when we record. if you you have a lot of stuff you've you've brought uh sleeping bag sometimes but apparently you've sold that bag of gorp sure

yeah i traded my sleeping bag for a bag of gorp right and then of course what what happened to the bag of gorp i consumed it right right so then you hadn't you didn't have anything no more gorp just a bag would you trade for that topo chico the bag that i kept the gorp in oh oh great oh okay plastic bag plastic bag for the topo what about the iphone what uh would you trade for that just my old iphone your old iphone they gave you a new iphone gave me a new one weird yeah huh not apple oh this is not an apple iphone This is a Bapple. Oh, this is a Bapple. Oh, I mean, yeah, that's worse. It's definitely bad. Well, it doesn't work.

Right. It just looks exactly like an iPhone. I noticed that those aren't like computer icons on the front. Those are just drawings. They're drawings. In crayon, it looks like, done by a third grader? Crayon drawings actually done by a fifth grader. Oh, really?

Are you smarter than that fifth grader, by the way? No. I met him on the game show. Oh, okay. And you asked if he could draw some stuff for you? He beat me, and I said, you look like a smart kid. Check out my phone, and he signed it for me. And this is his signature.

That's his signature? Oh, okay. Crazy. He's very smart. Yeah, and you would bet all of your worldly possessions that you were going to beat him, right? That's why you don't have anything. He has all my worldly possessions and my family, car, everything. You bet your family, too.

God, you got to leave your family out of your bets. Well, my family is a possession of mine. That's true, yeah. Car, house. Car, house. Yeah. Keys. Keys.

On Van Nuys. Keys on Van Nuys. Is Keys still on van nuys what's that what's what's keys what's keys on van nuys yeah oh my god adam i have something incredible to introduce to you uh keys on van nuys is it's a local reference, certainly, but we definitely have to listen to a little bit of this. Keys, keys, keys on Van Nuys. Keys, keys, keys, keys on Van Nuys. 2,000 cars. Is this on the radio?

It's like a TV and radio commercial. Keys on Van Nuys. Is that, Keys is a car something. Does that mean that they paid royalties to the Beach Boys? No, the Beach Boys actually paid them because they were like, we're not popular anymore.

Can you please make a song about us? Wow. And the song has since exploded. Yeah. And boy, the Beach Boys are so thankful. They went to Keys on Van Nuys on their knees and were like, Thank you. Thank you.

We're pieces of shit. Thank you. Thank you. Keys on Van Nuys is a local reference that a lot of people make because those commercials are omnipresent. By my awareness, it's swept the nation. How long have you been here? You've been here 20 years, haven't you? 30.

You've been here 30 years? Yes. When's your anniversary? When's your 30th? It was in Rocktober, just this past October. Really? You remember it being Rocktober because Halloween was right around the corner? That's when I moved from Pasadena where uh where i was living and moved to

hollyweird in october of 1993 right across the street from gelsons yes yeah well no it was it was different it was kitty corner to uh the daily to the bourgeois pig and daily planet that oh okay did you what did you move across the street from Gelson's or? I eventually ended up there. So you moved approximately one block. These are all like very local. I moved directly across Franklin from the Villa Carlotta, which is that building there moved to an apartment building down that little street. Then after that, I moved directly across Gelson's.

Wow. Three different places in one block. One block? Why bother? I don't know. I was, boy, 20. By the time I moved out of that neighborhood, I must have been 23. So when you go to that neighborhood, and that's the neighborhood, by the way, that Scientology is.

Yes, right there, which is why you moved there, right? Because you wanted to be close by to where you were worshiping. That's right. And getting your E meters read and all that kind of stuff. Your thetans, all that kind of stuff. But when you pass by that neighborhood,

are you nostalgic for it? Yes. You ever go to your old apartment, knock on the door and give them a thrill and say, hey, I used to shit right over there and point at your bedroom? My apartment window,

I had bedsheets. Yes. Did I already tell you this? The classic bedsheet story. I love this. Yes. You couldn't afford window treatment, so you just hung like push with a push bin bed sheet or tax maybe yes yes hung bed sheets yeah did i already tell you this seriously you told me about the bed sheets okay is there more sheets were there well in the establishing shot of the building and swingers yes you have told me that okay you can see your bed sheets. Yeah. It was like a dark green. It was hideous.

Right. And you can see the faint silhouette of someone stroking their tiny penis. And then Jon Favreau at some point says like, who's got that little penis up in that window? Who's that small dicked individual? Wow. You've come so far, Adam. It's so wonderful to see just like you were just a nobody back then, and now you're a guy with a podcast about Bruce Springsteen.

That's right. Can you believe it? Life is funny that way. Life is crazy. Well, it's 2024. We are coming up on our 10-year anniversary of doing this show, and very exciting. Yeah. Coming up in February, I believe. And what are we doing to celebrate? We going out?

You taking me out somewhere? We're going to go have dinner at a very romantic spot. Okay. I like to bring you. Am I going to get dolled up? I'd like you to wear a spicy little number if you could. Sure.

I was thinking I would wear the David S. Pumpkin suit. That would be great. That's what I meant. Great. A spicy little number. Sure. Okay, okay. And it's this cool little spot. It's often crowded.

Even if it's not crowded, it feels crowded. Oh, okay. What is this? It's called Up Your Button Around the Corner. Just kidding. Just kidding. You know what? We don't need to go out.

This feels like we're already celebrating. We should have an anniversary show, though. Yeah, sure. With big-name guests. Oh, yeah. We'll have Bonobos call in and thank us. That's right. For everything we fucking did for him.

That's right. Um, yeah, we should, you know, we could, well, we'll figure it out.

We'll talk about it off air. Um, because on air, we're here doing a show called you spring and Springsteen on my bean. And, uh, today we're covering a little album called high hopes i can't wait to hear all about like why this album exists yeah well i got the info you can

just call me an info maniac oh man um you're like the information super highway i am it's like hey but let's put a speed limit on this everyone because uh you get a little dangerous you can't drive 55 though right yeah you drive 45 though because that's fine yeah what if what if hagar was talking about like he likes to go slow he doesn't like to go so fast like suddenly i can't drive 55 and then much like bruce springsteen was born in the usa everyone misunderstands him and is like well that's so fucking cool and he was like uh yeah sure that's what i meant yeah and he's kind of just goes along for the ride because it makes him seem cool but yeah but it's actually the ride's too fast yeah yeah but now to get places like on jets on tour

buses yeah they tend to go over 55 miles it'd be great to to to get onto a jet because these things go too fast we've always said this yeah i i mean as long as long as i can remember i've been saying they go to they go too fast it's not safe it's too dangerous i would love it if a jet you were to go to lax or you know seaac where wherever yeah does it any of those places any of the does it doesn't matter to me one wit or one shit sure or i don't care i i don't i don't care one shit about this but wherever you go you get onto the plane yeah you sit down bing seatbelts fashion seatbelts all that all the everything yeah the accoutrement of uh air travel everything we love about it oh and then plane takes off and it goes 45 miles an hour yeah or what if it just goes five miles

five miles an hour and you know what but the and you would say well why don't you just take a car then to wherever you're going yeah because you have to sleep yeah. I like to sleep. Sorry. Yeah. I like to sleep. Sue me right now. Bring me to court. Yeah. I like sleeping.

Seriously. Try to find some case law. Exactly. Where's the precedent? Yeah. Good luck. I like, if I'm going to New York, I want it to take 73 hours.

That's right. And I want to sleep during 72 of those. That's right. And then one hour for waking up and taking 10 shits. to take 73 hours. That's right. And I want to sleep during 72 of those. That's right. And then one hour for waking up and taking 10 shits. I don't know.

So we are talking about High Hopes in addition to talking about air travel. Those are our two main interests this week. And very excited to do it.

And by the way, for those of you listening we are not going to be talking about western stars on this episode we're going to try to sneak in another app to talk about that because we got a lot of requests a bonus a lot of fans of western stars yeah so we're uh we're going to try to split these up because the when i started listening to high hopes i was like this is too many songs and then you also have the ep at the end of it that uh that they put out the same year with all the leftovers and everything. So it's just... Isn't the album already leftovers, kind of?

It is, but then they had four other songs that were leftovers, too, that they put out a few months later. So it's like, come on, guys. What are we going to cover? All of this and Western stars? Come on. So we're going to talk about High Hopes today. And we're going to have fun. God damn it.

Oh, yeah. And you're going to have fun listening to it or else why the fuck are we even doing this? You know what I mean? That is such a good question. First of all, we're doing this for free. Are you getting a million dollars per episode, Adam? Because I'm not. No episode adam because i'm not no no i'm not i'm getting nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars per episode you are yeah who's

paying you that what are you what are you you're not getting paid like at all for this no i'm getting zero you're getting 900 were you supposed to split this with me can you look up the email i'm sorry i made a mistake i'm not getting paid for this either why are you winking at me because i have something in my eye i'm not getting paid i i feel like all these winks are telling me that you are getting paid no i'm not okay as long as you're,000, and you were supposed to split it with me so that we each get $475,000 an episode. Oh, how great would that be?

Oh, my God. If we were getting paid anything to do this, we would do more episodes, probably. That would be fantastic. We are going to be doing, you know, what we talk about when we say that we're going to be talking about high hopes i got lost in that sentence somehow but um we need to take a break adam if that's cool sure

and um when we come back we're going to talk about a little album called high hopes on a show called you spring and springsteen on my bean. We'll be right back after this. Welcome back. You spring and Springsteen on my bean. And we're talking about an album called high hopes uh do you know the frank sinatra song high hopes i don't think i do one of the more annoying songs in the american songbook uh mainly because it has a children's choir on it i think i think children's choir is a bad move just generally just generally for any for any song why do you think that it's just annoying here let me play a little bit of it and you'll see how annoying it is i love it so far

next time you're found with your chin on the ground there's a lot to be learned Shut the fuck up Both of you Frank and the kids Let's wait for the chorus But um Is it that Yeah yeah Oh yeah I remember we had to sing it In Ellen And the kids. Let's wait for the chorus. But is it that? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I remember we had to sing it in Ellen. Yeah, there it is. Who made you sing this? High apple pie in the sky hopes. Yeah. Oh, you still remember it? Yeah, I do remember it. I think I found the new theme song for this show, though.

This? Yep. Oh, my God. I'm going to put this into my playlist just so I remember that for next week. I remember in the third grade, my teacher, we had this singing and no one liked it. But it was all songs like that, like Tie a Yellow Ribbon, High Hopes, just all that shit. It seems like they never came up with any new songs. I bet they're still singing these.

I know. Tie a Yellow Ribbon, Round the Old Oak Tree. Who has ever liked that song? I remember the first, I was a kid when I heard that, a similar situation. Like, we have to sing this in class, and you hear that song, and you're like, this is one of the worst fucking songs you've ever heard. And then also Square Dancing. Did you have to do Square Dancing class and you hear that song and you're like this is one of the worst fucking songs you've ever heard and then also square dancing did you have to do square yeah square dancing so for a i think a calendar year or at least a semester we had to take square dancing classes like once a week and with the with knowing that we were all going on some sort of vacation up in the mountains or something for three days.

And we were told we had to learn the square dancing because there was going to be a dance. We're all 10, by the way, 10 or 11. Yeah. There's going to be a dance and you are going to be required to ask someone of the opposite sex to dance during this. And it was like the first, you know, and it was like, you have to do this. And it was the first time where like the whole societal pressure of like romantic.

That's awful for little kids. So we learned how to square dance for a semester, once a week, learning all that. Alamand left, Alamand right. Look it up if you don't know what these terms mean because I was a square dancing machine. I wonder if it's some vestige of, was it part of California public school curriculum or something? Why were we both in square dancing around the age of 10?

I also think that it was something in the late 70s or early 80s where cowboy culture was very big because i remember they they were playing the gambler like kenny rogers songs when we were square dancing or uh uh what coward of the county and you know urban cowboy and all these like like pickup truck culture cowboy culture was very big foot remember bigfoot remember loch ness monster no but the truck bigfoot no but remember the monster loch ness monster yes lived in loch ness scott yeah nessie they called her oh scary scary stuff a little too a little too frightening there's only been one photo though because she's very shy she's so so shy. She's, I mean, I wanted her to star in a movie.

Me too. I was like, you know, it would be hard though. It'd be hard for her. Like she's never going to be ready for a closeup. You've heard about Mr. DeMille and all these closeups he was giving everyone. It's like, hey, Mr. DeMille over here, over here, over here, Mr. DeMille, over here.

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Yeah. The evil version is like your movie Piranha 3D. Where Nessie like eats a bunch of tourists. And you're on a jet ski with a shotgun, just like, Nessie, get over here. Oh, wait, teaming up or trying to blow her away. No, just like, come on, come over here so I can blow your brains out. I don't know. That's not a good enticement, by the way.

No, come on. Yeah, you would have to kind of work on that. Yeah, exactly. Like, come over here. The bait would need to shift. I have some fish for you. That's start there probably better um anyway uh loch ness monster uh square dancing yeah so tell me about the square dancing you had started it and then i i took it and ran with it no i we just had to do it like every week we had square dancing yeah and it was so lame did they ever they never put the pressure on you though to invite

no we i think we did have to i feel like we've talked about this before but i don't think we have actually somewhat recently but not as in depth as right now but maybe we did we probably did but but i don't remember having to go ask but maybe we did i just remember having to dance it was just wildly inappropriate and super boring and very shitty what was what was the worst part about it the inappropriateness the boringness or the shittiness i feel like the shittiness was maybe the worst. That's the worst part. I remember I hated the music. Bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling. And the steps were so lame. Yeah.

You got to go to the left, then the right. It's like, come on, guys. And then hook arms and- Hook arms. Ugh. God. Was that the Allemande, by the way? The Allemande?

The Allemande. The Allemande. I think that's where you stick your hand out, you're shaking hands, and you do it to the left, and then you go winkity-diddly-diddly-diddly-diddly. They do it in Guffman. In Waiting for Guffman, they do a little square dancing. Wouldn't that have been great, though,

if you had auditioned for Guffman and said, oh, yeah, like they asked, well, look, you can have the part, but do you know how to square dance? You're like, I got this. Yeah, no problem. No problem. I wonder if square dancing was on my special skills, my first resume. It should have been.

I bet you could pick, even though neither of us have done it now in probably 40 years. Oh, I'm sure I could do it. Yeah, definitely. But I should make sure my agent puts it on my special skills. You definitely, yeah. Especially, are you taking new headshots, by the way? Yeah, I'm going to take them this afternoon. you're shooting them yeah yeah oh yeah definitely i have a bunch of outfits for you because we need a bunch of different looks we need the doctor with

the stethoscope guy with too many papers yep um what do they call those composites composites composites i think um i don't think I ever did a composite. Neither did I. Okay, so then we get up to the winter field trip or whatever. Oh, yeah. And this is what I remember from it. This is the only time in my life I've ever been in a place where they showed snowboarding and skateboarding films,

and they were legitimately a projector in films, and I didn't know these things existed like compilations of people doing tricks and stuff and everyone is going whoa the entire time wait on the trip on the trip you were watching a movie yeah and like in the big mess hall or wherever we were and the movie was just a compilation of people doing skiing and snowboarding tricks? Snowboarding, skateboarding, any of these kind of extreme things. And were you like, why did I have to learn how to square dance to be here? Couldn't we have learned how to do this? But I didn't know these things existed and it was the first time I'd ever been like,

oh, a compilation of awesome tricks makes the crowd go wild. Yeah. And then we did the dance. And I remember me and about four other nerds just hung out on the wall the entire time and never asked anyone to dance. So the whole year or six-month long worrying about this night. And then you were there and you're like, I'm just not going to do it. Yeah, exactly.

Did you get in trouble for not asking? No, no one was paying attention. No one cared. Why did you go on this trip? That's my question. What was the- I'm sure it was supposed to be fun. Yeah.

Was it educational? That I don't know. That I don't like it. Because I literally don't remember anything else we did. Yeah. It doesn't sound fun to me. So are you telling me that as an adult, if I were, if me and my wife, who's great friends with your wife and a couple other couples that we know, were to say like, hey, what if we went up to the mountains this weekend, hung out in a cabin? At dinner, we'll show some skateboarding movies.

Yeah. And we'll like scream at them. and then we'll square dance at night like take mushrooms and square dance sure um you're saying you wouldn't want to do that no it sounds kind of fun now that sounds fantastic get rid of everything but the mushrooms and yeah i'm in yeah no that sounds great um square dancing as an adult i think is a wonderful way to spend your time what a what a i mean just what a waste of time like maybe it was gonna come back for a few years i don't know but then i think you know you're a teacher you're just trying to fill the fucking day. That's a thing.

Hats off to our teachers. Because my class was probably like 40 kids. Yeah. And yes, we're complaining about our public school system, but you try it is what I say. Like I've gone to schools and given talks and stuff like that. I'm bored out of my mind and don't have anything to say after an hour. Yeah. Try to do it eight hours a day, five days a week.

That's right. You know? So they're just like, the teachers are like, oh, thank God. Yeah. Mr. Johnson knows how to square dance and is willing to take this over. I can go outside and smoke a cigarette. Yeah. We've got an hour.

Oh, thank God. Anyway, so our teachers, hats off to them. They must be proud of us. 100% hats off to all of the teachers, particularly public school teachers. And also, honestly, the private school teachers that we pay their salaries. Us Hollywood celebrities taking our kids to, to private schools. You're the best of the best. Also incredible teachers in the private schools for sure.

Yeah. You're the best of the best and you deserve to get paid more than these public school teachers. No, no, no, no, no, no. Um, you know what they should do with private schools? What's that? All the money that goes to the private school, they should just turn around and give to the public school because they deserve it more. And then everyone at the private school does everything for free.

That's a great idea. All of the teachers at private schools do it on a voluntary basis. See, but then to make money, they have to get jobs at the public school. Yes. So they just don't sleep because they're always working. Exactly.

That makes sense. Makes a lot of sense. I think we figured it out. Done. We figured just don't sleep because they're always working. Exactly. That makes sense. Makes a lot of sense. I think we figured it out. Done. We figured out- We should call Gavin Newsom and tell him we figured everything out. Yeah.

No, we should do. We should do an Abbott Elementary episode about this. Great idea. We donate our time. Yes. I'll write it and direct it. Yes.

You star in it. Great. We don't have the regular cast. And then just submit it to Quinta Brunson? Yep. And say like, here, we made this for you. Take the week off.

You know what? They'll air it. They'll air it. They'll air it. Especially after a strike, they're going to air it. Please. Speaking of trying to fill time, they're just looking for content. Content.

It's about content. Content. I love being a content creator, as I'm sure you are as well. The best. Speaking of content, though, we have a lot of great content that we're talking about today.

We're talking about a little album called High Hopes. And this album, Adam, is by Bruce Springsteen. Do you want to get into it? What do you say? Yeah, let's do it. Let's talk about some stats.

You know I love the stats. All right. You love them? I love them. Where would we be without stats? Okay, so our last episode, we talked about Wrecking Ball, which came out in 2012, march 6th to be exact and uh this album comes out of less than two years later it comes out

if you had to guess the date what would you say uh well first of all i would say probably 2014. Yeah. At some point. Yeah. Let's say June 3rd. No, it's less than two years. Oh. And that one came out in March. Oh, so I would say January. Yeah. January 14th.

What? That's right. January 14th, 2014, this album comes out. Can you imagine? I can't. I can't wrap my mind around that. It's so crazy. We got a ton of people on it, a ton of producers.

Really? Yeah. In the production side of it, you have good old producer Ron is back, Annie Yellow. Okay. Springy himself. But you also have the return of brendan o'brien why we'll talk about it it was it a leftover from left that's right they made a tv show about it called the leftovers got into some weird areas that uh didn't have anything to do with bruce springsteen a lot like this podcast um and uh so so what exactly was going down with this record adam i don't know you want to know how it all came to be

yes so remember we were talking about wrecking ball um it's so hard to imagine that this album is the result of you know know, the butterfly effect? Yeah. Butterfly flaps its wings and everything is different. Ashton Kutcher movie. Yeah. Ashton Kutcher suddenly, wow. This everything, this album would probably not exist without the TV show Lilyhammer.

Hmm. Isn't that crazy to think about? Yes. Netflix makes Lilyhammer. suddenly springsteen makes high hopes i feel like you bring up lily hammer like every third episode i hope so um thankfully springsteen was not in a situation much like kelly clarkson was with clive davis uh back uh when you bring that up a lot too not clive davis wanted to wanted her to go back yeah she was in a bind i think she figured it out um no okay so lily hammer uh is in production and little steven norway is that where look you're gonna catch me and hear that i

don't know anything about lily hammer uh i'm not a true spring springo fan if i haven't watched every episode of lily hammer but i confess that i have not i have you have yeah just since the last time we saw oh good yeah was it good it's Got it. I got to catch up. So they're making Lilyhammer, and little Steven has to drop out of the Wrecking Ball Tour. And a few months before that, Springo had had, we talked about him last week,

good old Tom Morello. Uh-huh. I think in Anaheim or something, he came out and guested on The Ghost of Tom Joad, which Rage Against the Machine, who just broke up the other day, by the way. They did? They are not rescheduling their missed concerts. They have broken up for good, they say. Why? Because they've broken up twice before.

I don't know. They didn't say. They didn't get into the nitty gritty of it. Do you know anything about the dynamics of that band and why they break up uh all i know is one of them uh is supposedly a lunatic uh i don't know which one a conspiracy theorist lunatic and uh and i don't think they get along i don't know okay uh no idea though Don't really know that much about the band. Haven't done a lot of research. Got it. And don't even know if I'm right about the one member being nuts, but I feel like I am.

So I'm just going to say it. I've talked to Tom Morello, and I believe the time or two that I've chatted with him, we talked about Bruce Springsteen. Did you talk to him the day that I saw him eating lunch next to me at this place in the valley? Was I there? No. Oh. Yeah, I probably saw him that day. Probably that day.

That's cool. Was he cool to talk to? Yeah, he's a really nice guy. Yeah, seems like he's probably got a good head on his shoulders. really nice nice guy yeah seems like uh he's probably uh got a good heart on his shoulders um so uh as discussed in our previous episode little steven goes off he's taping lily hammer a show i know nothing about other than the the posters had him staring really uh with a steely stern look on his face right down the barrel of the camera, as if to say, Lily Hammer. Yeah.

One thing I heard about him in The Sopranos is that David Chase, the creator of The Sopranos, offered him this role in The Sopranos. And Little Steven said, well, I'm not an actor, so I don't want to take a part away from an actor. Yeah. So write me a new part that doesn't exist already and I'll do that part. But that's another part that he would then be taking from an actor. I, I,

I constantly wonder if David Chase was like, Oh, sure I will. And then just like gave him the party he meant to give him anyway, but it's very sweet, but also slightly nonsensical but i get it sure um so he's in lily hammer tom morello comes in and joins the wrecking ball tour for the last third of it maybe this is just off the top of my head um they're having a good time

they then they're trying to figure out what to do. And springy is trying to figure out how to showcase Tom Morello, uh, to, to kind of be like, you know, don't just sit in the background and, you know,

play whatever, uh, we want to play with us. Yeah. Like, do you, are there songs that you want to play? And,

uh, Tom Morello, uh, remember when we talked about the greatest hits there was a song uh called high hopes that they recorded uh for the greatest hits album oh when they did those couple songs they did yeah they did more than a couple because it ended up not being on greatest hits it ended up being on that ep that they put out um of all the leftovers um but they put out this song high hopes on this ep and tom morello heard it i guess he was listening to bruce springsteen radio at this point he had the sirius xm station where they would play like you know a lot of stuff

and he heard that song from the blood brothers ep and he said i could really jam on that can we do that song and that's the quote that's in like three different books i've read i could really jam on that on high hopes yeah do you want to hear a little bit of the old version yeah so you hear that right there and you go, oh, Tom Morello, because he's doing the ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch. So it's sort of got a groove to it. And High Hopes,

by the way, is a cover. It's cover by an australian band the javelinas um so springy was like what do i give a shit sure let's do it yeah i'm sure he's a little more passionate than that yeah then i'm characterizing what do i give a shit so they they start doing that in the set list they start doing ghost of tom jode in the set list right on a regular basis and it's a little more hard um and uh uh so they're in australia during this part of the the wrecking ball tour and they cut both of these songs um and normally when an artist does something like this like in the past in earlier decades they would just they put out a single right in a side and b side yeah but they you know the record business is different now so there's not really an

opportunity to do this as just like you know i mean yes they could have put out an internet only single or something yeah but they springy starts going like oh this sounds pretty good and then they had already been working i guess on new versions of the the two songs that we've heard live versions of they're both uh from the the rising tour american skin 41 shots and land of hopes land of hope and dreams right we heard the live versions of it back when we were covering those albums right so they've been working on like studio versions of it with tom morello on this whole album yeah pretty much almost so so they have these four things right and spring spring oh is I think maybe we got an album. Whoa. So what they do is they have all of these leftovers from various sessions that they've never put out, leftover songs.

And they scoop all those up and have Tom Morello play over all those. Yeah um and then they do a few new songs as well and basically this album is as they say an odds and sods collection yeah uh of unreleased material and covers uh that they just kind of recorded while they were on this Wrecking Ball tour in bits and pieces along the way. Springo talks about how he has a folder on his computer of all these songs that they've thrown away over the years that he listens to after shows just to see if anything in the show they just did inspires him to be like,

oh, we could do this with it. We could do this with it. So this was all cut on the Wrecking Ball tour they just did inspires him to be like oh we could do this with it we could do this with it so this was all cut on the wrecking ball tour uh from old sessions and a few new sessions and so it's this hodgepodge album of a bunch of different styles and a bunch of different types of songs and it's the only springo album that has more than one cover other than the seager sessions um it's weird just because it's is it like uh do you think him fulfilling a contract like a i think so because it doesn't it feels like he's so careful with his releases and things being finished and

just so and why is he putting something out right now? This just feels sort of haphazard for him. I do believe that he signed a multi-album contract somewhere around, this is off the top of my head too, so it's somewhere around Magic of the Rising or something like that. And I think he i this is just me totally speculative speculative pie in the sky i believe somewhere around this period around working on a dream he has albums to put out in order to fulfill this contract and so they get a little less careful with stuff got it it. Maybe. Maybe, but we don't know.

And truly, it could have been just like, he's stoked to put this collection out because he wants to document Tom Morello being part of the band. Yeah. Because he does say in his autobiography that having Tom Morello in the band opened up a whole sonic palette that had never been available to them before, which makes total sense.

Yeah. Adding a bunch of over every song. Um, so it's a curious album, um, that we are excited to listen to, to sort of rediscover. I remember when it came out,

it was almost like they set expectations low and talked about like, Oh, this is kind of a B-sides, you know, unreleased material album. I think that's why I never really gave it a fair shake. Yeah. But also they were trying to say, but it is a real album because like, you know, we're marketing it. Yeah. So they were trying to have it both ways. Yeah. We'll see.

People love it. Do they? Don't they? ways. Yeah. We'll see. People love it. Do they? Don't they? We'll see. We'll see. We'll see what we think of it as well. We're going to go track by track on it as well as the American Beauty EP. And this is very exciting because we're doing a little show called You Spring and Springsteen on My Bean.

We're going to have to take a break, though. This is very exciting because we're doing a little show called You Spring and Springsteen on My Bean. We're going to have to take a break, though. When we come back, we will go through all of I Hope's, the album. We'll be right back with more You Spring and Springsteen on My Bean after this. Welcome back. You spring in Springsteen on my bean. And Springsteen Bean 2014. A lot of rhymes when it comes to high hopes and you're a big like you use rhymes to try and predict the future of course yeah to read into like you're big on like yeah 9-11 stuff with rhyming yeah the uh 11 7 yeah you know yeah yeah uh heaven yeah all those all those people went to heaven i

totally hear that yeah um we're talking about an album called high hopes today and uh we've we've gone into the background of it as a whole um i will say that uh is it in this book yes it is this is the last we're talking about the book the stories behind the songs which is a reference book we've been using on the show uh by brian hyatt and it is the last album covered in this uh book so western cars isn't on western cars is not yeah a totally different album by bruce springsteen than western stars no it's the it's the it's the he gets rid of the horses yep it's all same songs same songs it's about cars yeah when he talks about pontiacs and cadillacs he's talking about horses that's

right um i mean cars couldn't even stick the landing on that i don't know if it was really worth sticking yeah probably not it was also it was the sequel to cars 3 the unofficial sequel so cars it's western cars in parentheses cars 4 yes but we'll talk about that later weird way to release a sequel to a movie release a as a bruce springsteen album i know more people should do it just a cars version of an album that already exists. Yeah. And that's Cars 4. All right. Let's talk about each of these songs individually because they all have different origins and how they came to be. And this is the lead off track. Oh, no. What I want to mention is this album, when it came out, I think an important thing to mention is that, let me find it, is that on January 14th, the day it came out, 2014, the entire episode of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon was dedicated to Springsteen. um the entire episode of late night with jimmy fallon was dedicated to springsteen um and uh springsteen and fallon both dressed as springsteen from the born in the usa era

oh i remember that performed a parody song to the theme of born to run titled governor christie traffic jam wow so i just wanted to make sure everyone stands the test of time wow um all right let's get into it uh this is track one this is the lead-off track i believe first single from yeah the only single released from the record this is the titular high hopes by bruce springsteen. Monday morning runs Sunday night screaming Slow me down Before the New Year dies Well, it won't take much To kill a loving smile And every mother with a baby

Crying in her arms Singing Give me help Give me strength Give my soul A night of fell asleep Give me strength Give my soul A night of fell asleep Give me love Give me peace

Don't you know these days You pay for everything Got high hopes I got high hopes Got high hopes Got high hopes I got high hopes Coming from the city Coming from the wild

I see a breathless army Breaking like a cloud They're gonna smother love, they're gonna shoot your hopes But the meek and hurt, they'll learn to hate themselves Give me heaven, give me strength Give a soul a night of fearlessly Give me love Give me peace

Don't you know these days you pay for everything Got high hopes I got high hopes I got high hopes I got high hopes I got high hopes High hopes, Adam. Here's a little of that Tom Morello flair. I think it's...

So the edibles have now expanded to, you know, Jake, the big man's nephew is in the band. They have a full horn section now, which I think Springo had always wanted to tour with but couldn't afford, in quotes. So what I like about it is it's like a new sound in a way. You got the full kind of oingo boingo horns in the background. You now have a totally different lead guitarist. What do we think of? I feel like this would be really fun to see live, this song. Especially if you were like two feet away from them.

Yeah. If you were on stage with them. Yeah, with them fun um it's yeah it's it's a fun song i don't know if it's a great song it's a cover it's by the oh it is the la uh uh folk band the javelinas uh a uh gentleman by the name tim scott mcconnell wrote it um he also uh wrote a song called swear which was covered by sheena easton um into a modest hit um and i think they played it on like 120 minutes and spring springo saw it back in the 90s and was like oh i bet i could sing this he kind of liked the lyrics so they made that edible street band version um from the greatest hit sessions and then um then this came out cool what do you think i think it's fine i think it's like uh you know it would be

interesting to hear a whole album in this style of of this particular band like if they add enough material to do a whole album it would be kind of interesting but so are the edibles on the whole record as well as tom morello not sprinkled it's it's it's weird because all all of the songs come from different sessions and so right which we can talk about um who is on what but uh on this particular one you definitely have roy bitten um you have uh you don't have federici he's not on it uh nils is on this song patty's on this song gary talent is on this song steven little ste Steven is not. Max is not. Yeah, so it's kind of like here and there. It depends on which session it's from,

whether any of the edibles are on it or not. Interesting. Yeah. So that's High Hopes. So wait, Springsteen was on, was Fallon still doing Late Night or was he on The Tonight Show yet? Good question. It was Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, doing Late Night or was he on The Tonight Show yet? Good question. It was Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, not The Tonight Show.

God, when did he start on The Tonight Show? Just like a year later. Probably a year later, yeah. All right. I want to see that. I haven't seen- The Late Night with Jimmy Fallon? Yeah, with Springsteen.

I want to see that episode. Well, let me introduce you to something called the internet. A lot of incredible things await you. What? Okay, so let's go to track two, Adam. This is a song called Harry's Place, and this is by Bruce Springsteen. Downtown hipsters drinking at the drug line Down in the kitchen, working in the coal mine Got a special sin, mister, you can't quite confess

Messy little problem, baby, baby, need a new dress Raise a black diamond, you shine too hard, need a hammer if you handle little trouble in your backyard When Harry speaks, it's Harry's streets, in Harry's house, it's Harry's streets In Harry's house, it's Harry's rules You don't wanna be around brother when Harry's schools It's Harry's car, Harry's wife Harry's dogs on Harry's town Your blood and money's spit shines

Harry's crown You don't fuck with Harry's money You don't fuck Harry's place Adam wow let's just song number two let's call it out this is one of the craziest songs

he's ever recorded I mean it sounds like like a Don Henley song from recorded i mean it sounds like uh like a don henley song yeah it sounds like 1984 yeah it's it sounds like don johnson's heartbeat yes it does don sing it smugglers blues glenn fry that's a better compare it because don henley has some awesome songs from that period this sounds like a glenn fry song yes or or like you said, that, that Don Johnson.

That particular Don Johnson song. It's really weird. So, so here's the genesis of this. Springo plays it for Brendan O'Brien on the piano. It's. Brendan O'Brien produced that track? Yeah. So it's a, so it's a piano song.

And Brendan O'Brien gets the big idea to do it like this to do it with the the gated bass uh you know what's a gated bass it's i i've tried to explain gated drums before and i don't think i did it correctly it's a production technique to make it to make everything sound really loud but i it also like echoey yeah and it uh like up front in the mix uh with not a lot of echo actually oh um but so not echoey i don't know but but again maybe i'm wrong but it it also sounds like it could be a synth bass but i see that gary talent is credited on this song but but but the weird part is is it started as piano and then Brendan O'Brien gets the idea to do it like this 80s pastiche. And he doesn't even like it.

He's kind of quoted as saying like, well, they're not all perfect, are they? Really? You try things and that one got left off of magic. And I thought that was a pretty good idea. and got left off of magic and i thought that was a pretty good idea and but springo has this song rattling around on his computer and then plays it for tom orello and just says like go crazy over this so it's got tom orello just going like all over the entire thing it sounds like an 80s homage yeah which i i don't mind it just doesn't end up really being a great song it's also crazy that it's song two but then i was thinking about it like okay if it were later than that you

would kind of go what the fuck is this because i guess but there are some good songs on here you would think you would try and front load it at least a little you would probably just leave it off but if you really wanted to put it on i think two is the only place you could put it because it's saying like, hey, that first song, not every song is going to be like this. We're going to have crazy weird shit. But there are no others like this, which is weird. I know. It's interesting, isn't it? It's curiosity.

Yeah. I mean, maybe he just really likes the song and who gives a shit. It's kind of funny to hear him like you don't fuck with harry's girl so bizarre uh so this is not uh your daddy's al bruce springsteen album but say hi to him from us yeah yeah say hi to your daddy say hi to your daddy it's a i guess he's a good fellow. It's bizarre. It truly is bizarre. So let's go to track three. This is the studio version, the aforementioned American Skin 41 shots.

This is by Bruce Springsteen. Thank you. 41 shots 41 shots 41 shots And we'll take that ride Across the bloody river To the other side 41 shots Cut through the night You're kneeling over his body

In the vestibule Praying for his life Is it a gun? Is it a knife? Is it a wallet? This is your life It ain't no secret It ain't no secret No secret, my friend So this is the song we talked about it during, I think, the Rising episode that

During, I think, the Rising episode that Bruce wrote about the Amadou Diallo, the immigrant from Guinea who the police shot 41 times. Terrible story. They started doing it again in concert in 2012 and 2013 because Trayvon Martin and they were dedicated to Trayvon Martin, which then led to this studio version. I'm saying like, let's actually lay a down a studio version of it. Uh, interestingly,

perhaps, uh, they chose a live version. So this is, I think this is a live vocal take and a live version. So I think this is a live vocal take and a live guitar, like Bruce guitar rhythm take. From a show? From a show. Oh, interesting. That they isolated and then had-

Studio. Did a whole studio track around. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Producer Ron Aniello thinks it's very overproduced and is ashamed of this track really yes um i guess i would agree it's overproduced but i do like the song it's a good song i wonder i i mean i probably prefer the just simple edible street yeah i don't love this thing he's done in the past like several albums where he's treating his vocals.

Yeah, with the filter. Yeah, to make it. I feel like they think it's super cool and cutting edge or something. Yeah. So this is, Tamarello really took his time with this guitar solo. Usually he says he's like a first take is probably his best but this one he thought he really loves this song so he really wanted to do it justice so did a ton of takes and uh kind of cut it cut it all together um yeah i mean i don't it's not minded i i would have i like the song a. I would have put it later in the album though.

Yeah, it's, it also is a seven and a half minute song. Yeah. This early in the record. It's weird. It's a weird song to put at number three after two kind of anomalous songs to start the album out with. Right. All right, American Skin. anomalous songs to start the album out right right um all right american skin

parentheses 41 shots um okay let's go to track four this is a song called just like firewood w-o-u-l-d. This is by Bruce Springsteen. One night in a motel room I was cast like steel I drank the wine that they left on my table Knew the morning was too far I smoked my last cigarette I stayed only to define The night was dark and the land was cold

I was frozen right to the bone. Just like firewood, I'm burning. Just like firewood. Just like firewood, I'm burning. 500 miles I'm going to take Just like Firewood, this is a cover. This is the Australian band The Saints. And they were playing this on the Australia tour

because Springo added a bunch of Australian band songs. They did Back in Black, a bunch of... Did they play a midnight oil song i know i wish or maybe a hunters and collectors song that we should do we should do a midnight oil i guess it would be short or they have lots of a ton of records that's right they still make records yeah yeah they're good um blue sky mining was my favorite yeah i'm gonna pass on that idea but i will say that um i do like them um i just uh don't know whether anyone else would uh follow us but uh hey if you really want to hear that uh

send us a postcard care of go fuck yourself um is that one two three go fuck yourself straight i think so uh i like this song a lot yeah i i actually actually hearing this, I kind of am like, maybe he should just do a whole covers album. Sort of like this. Or just an album of like fun country rock songs. Yeah. I don't know. It sounds like John Mellencamp kind of. Yeah.

It's really good. It's fine. Yeah. I think it's an 80s song. I'm not sure. But yeah, it's just kind of straight ahead. Edible street. This is this is one of the highlights.

I just think that he had a few of these and then he's like, no, I can't do a whole. I can't do a full covers record. I mean, I would. I feel like this should open the album. Yeah. I mean, you're going to open the album with a cover. Why not? Super fun. I guess they were in love with this the album with a cover. Why not a super fun?

I think they were in love with this version of High Hopes because I think they did it on tour so many times and it was just like got the crowd pumped. Yeah. But I do like this a lot. Yeah. All right, let's go for track five. This is a song called Down in the Hole.

This is by a gentleman by the name of Bruce Springsteen. Thank you. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, comes every morning but it ain't no friend I get dressed and I go back again Rain it keeps on falling on twisted bones and dirt I'm buried to my heart here in this hurt Fire keeps on burning You're waiting in the cold This is the end of our drive. Someone forgot the filter.

Yeah. Press the wrong button. That's so weird. This is a song, this is a rising outtake that purely, like Rana, they didn't add anything to. This was cut from the rising um they think because of lyrical redundancy like they just had too many songs like this this is probably about the firefighter lee ilp uh who went through the rubble of 9-11 for 91 days uh until he found the body of his son, a firefighter named Jonathan. Oh my god.

Yeah, down in the hole. Yeah, no I don't think anything done to it, just purely a song that they cut in from that. Doesn't seem to fit to me. What do you think though? Yeah, but nothing really fits.

That's maybe our criticism of the whole album. Yeah. But it's hodgepodge. What do we think of it individually? I don't mind the song really. I could see it fitting on The Rising a little bit better. I think we wanted to cut The Rising down as it was. Yeah.

But I could see it fitting better than... Right. the rising a little bit better i think we wanted to cut the rising down as it was yeah so but i could see it fitting better than there are a couple songs on there that are a little it's a little strange to hear it right after just like firewood yeah but i also i don't know it's a five minute song yeah it's maybe not my favorite but uh but but subject matter is is definitely worth hearing and it's cool to hear him paying tribute to that um all right let's hear the next track this is heaven's wall little cowbell this is by bruce springsteen Raise your hand. Well, draw water Needs a desert sky blue She said, well, you look blind Raise her dead Cure the sickness out of you

Come on, man, let's get it on Come on, man, let's start Come on, sons of Abraham Wait as the heavens fall Heaven's Wall. I like that song. Yeah, this one feels like an album track if it was more just straight-ahead stuff, just like Firewood. Yeah.

In high hopes. This is a Brendan O'Brien one that they overdubbed. I don't know which record this is originally from. Sounds like it could have been working on a dream or yeah it sounds like working on a dream because it's kind of got that gospel flavor that was sort of going for a little bit um but i but i like it it's solid i don't think it's exceptional yeah the uh by the way the guitar solos are both done they're like dueling guitar solos are both done. They're like dueling guitar solos. They're both done by Tom Morello. But we're not going to be able to hear that

because it's not happening right now. Time. Oh, wait, here it is. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, shit. Fuck, fuck yeah. Go. Oh, shit.

Go. Go answer him. Answer him. Yeah. What do you guys say about that? Oh, shit. Go. Go, answer him. Answer him. Yeah, what do you guys say about that? Oh, god damn it. So, yeah, I give it a... I give it a C. A C?

I really like it. D plus. All right, let's go to the next track. This is Frankie Fell in Love by Bruce Springs. Good morning, good morning The church mass is snoring News is out all over town Reggae feeling love

Wake up, boys, wake up You drunken cry boys, sing it up Our Juliet says Romeo's been found Reggae feeling love. Well, he's gonna break down from here on in waiting to take out. She ain't gonna be cooking for the likes of us. Somebody call my mother and just tell her reggae feeling love. You got Lil' Steven doing backing vocals and sort of going toe-to-toe with Springy. What do we think of Frankie Fallon?

I like it a lot. This is a favorite. This is one people say, like, why don't you do the whole album like this? Right. This fits well with just like Firewood. Yeah. And Heaven's Wall. the whole album right this is this fits well with just like firewood yeah and heaven's wall um this was all over dubbed over a solo demo that springy did um my daughter's name is frankie

oh that's cool so i'm not sure how i feel about uh her the song being about her this was written about about her yeah and this was 2014 so yeah maybe that's maybe too young yeah but maybe he was talking about falling in love with you as parents huh okay well let me think about it okay think about how that makes you feel yeah Better or worse. Okay. Yeah, I enjoy that one. Got a little country flair. Yeah. Yeah. You know, what's wrong with some flair? I like flair.

Sure. I would use one if my car broke down, I'll tell you that much. I tell you, anytime that I run out of gas, just flares. Shoot out the flares. At the gas station, which is so dangerous. Hey, over here, asshole. You just start shooting people with your flare gun. Okay, let's go to,

this is track eight, I believe. Is my math correct on that? Yep, I'm eyeballing it. That works out. This is called This Is Your Sword by Bruce Springsteen. A sword of our fathers with lessons hard taught Shields strong and sturdy from battles we'll fall This is your sword, this is your shield

This is the power of love revealed Carried with you wherever you go And give all the love that you have in your soul At times they're dark but discover it's here This world's filled with the beauty of God's word Oh, tap, dear, promise, stay righteous, stay strong For the days of miracles will come along This is Your Sword.

This is a song about the day that Bruce was walking down Fifth Avenue and found a sword that somebody dropped. No, it's not. Went up to him and said, hey, this is your sword. Oh, wait. That's a good song title. He was like, hey, excuse me, this is your sword. Wait a second.

Hard cut to. I like your sword. Wait a second. Hard cut to... I like this song. I like it, yeah. This is one of the new ones, kind of in the vein of what we like about it. Frankie fell in love, just like Firewood. Not something that was deemed not good enough to be on a regular record.

And also, careful what you say about my daughter. Oh, sorry. Are you talking to me or are you talking to? I'm talking to you. You just said Frankie fell in love. Oh, shit. I'm sorry. Oh, that's the name of the song.

It sounds like one of the mink salmons, by the way. Sounds like what? Never mind. You don't know what I'm talking about, but they're talking about their granddaughter, obviously, when they say stay away from my granddaughter. So I feel like we're in a good groove here with these three. Yeah.

And we like Just Like Firewood to a degree. Good groove, literally and figuratively. Let's go to track nine. This is Hunter of Invisible Game. This is about hunter biden very funny I hauled my silver battered ditch Built me an ark, a gopher wood and pitch Sat down by the roadside and waited on the rain

I am a hunter of invisible game Well, I woke last night to the heavy clicking and clack And a scarecrow on fire along the railroad tracks There were empty cities and burning plains. I am the hunter of invisible game. We all come up a little short Adam, what do we think of Hunter of Invisible Game? Seems like it would be hard to do.

To go hunt something that's invisible? Yeah, I mean, I feel like you would waste ammunition, first of all. Probably, but they did it in the Predator. You're right. You know, and they certainly tagged him with a few bullets. But the Predator wasn't technically invisible. You just had to figure out how to see him. Yeah.

Hmm. That's a good point. Maybe that's what he's talking about. Oh. Maybe he just mistitled the song. Is this song from the point of view of Stone Cold Steve Austin? I think it might be. This is one of the new songs.

I like this song. As well. I like it. I think it's good like Palette Cleanser in a shorter record that was a little more consistent. So I like it. Maybe we talk at the end

about songs we would keep. Okay. All right. If you insist. Okay. So now we're up to track 10 of 12. Is my math checking out here? Let me see.

Yes, 10 of 12. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Give me one sec. Just checking. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. Yeah, 10 of 12. Great.

9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. Yeah, 10 of 12. Great. And this is the album cut, the album version, not live version, of The Ghost of Tom Joad. And this is a duet between Bruce Springsteen and Tom Morello. This is an all-new version of the song. All-new, yes.

Although not really. We'll talk about that afterwards. Okay. Okay. We'll be right back. Well, the highway's alive tonight But nobody's kidding nobody about where it goes I'm sitting down here in the campfire line Searching for the ghost of Tom and Joe He pulls a prayer book out of his sleeping bag Preacher lights up a butt and takes a drag That's Tom Morello, by the way.

The first shall be first and the first shall be last Imagine that voice having a conversation with Adam. This is what he said during our conversation. Oh, really? Yeah. It's a word for word. Yeah. I mean, realizing he was just reciting lyrics.

Were you at a concert, by the way? Yeah. Okay, I don't think this is a... I think he was on stage performing with Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, but I was talking to them um what do we think about this version of the ghost of tom joe i like it this was i guess cut to a live performance i think the band the band took a live performance and recorded around springsteen's vocals uh and then tom morello redid the solo note for note that he did in the live performance so is any of this from the live i don't think so

i think the basic tracks were done to the live performance then springo re-recorded everything. Got it. So all of this, though, Tom Morello listened to it back and replayed it exactly the same. So it's interesting. I mean, The Ghost of Tom Joad and American Skin,

these are all 14 years old by this point they're album you know album versions of songs everyone knew i'm i'm kind of like why don't they just put out a single with those two songs wait with which two songs with american skin and uh ghost of tom joad right and then leave them off this album. But this album wouldn't exist without him or whatever. But, you know, I don't know. It's good.

It's seven and a half minutes. Yeah. And American Skin's about seven and a half. Seven and a half, yeah. That's long. All the things I could be doing in seven and a half minutes. I could take 10 shits. I know. See, now you're talking.

Now you're talking my language. All right. This is track 11 of 12. This is The Wall. And this is not the Pink Floyd song, Floyd Fanatics. This is by Bruce Springsteen. This black stone and these hard tears. Girl, I got left out of you. I remember you in the Marine uniform,

laughing, laughing at your pound pony. I read Robert McNamara says he's sorry. Your high boots and striped t-shirt i believe you looked so bad yeah you and your rock and roll band it was the best thing this shit town ever had hey another man will put you here with their families in rich dining hall This is a song about the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C. Kind of an interesting story. someone one of his contemporaries in the either late 60s or early 70s that everyone was like this person's gonna be famous like an incredible musician who then went to vietnam and was killed in vietnam um i'm sorry i missed you i think you know, Bruce has some residual guilt about not going, even though, you know, I think, what exactly was he? Was he medically unfit for some reason?

I don't know. But he always wonders who took his place, you know? Yeah. But a cool song. This is one that he recorded before The Rising in that session where he was uh recording my city of ruins and american skin okay and stuff um but i think i think totally redone with all these musicians i don't know what do you think adam i like it it's good i well i i think it's a it's interesting and it's it's a nice melody.

I think it would- Fit on a different album? Yeah, it would fit nicely as, like you said, like a palate cleanser. How long is this song? This one is 415, so not that long. A little more reasonable. A little more reasonable when you talk about slowies. Yeah, I like it. I think I like the production on it.

Okay, we'll figure out if we're going to keep it or not. All right, this is the final song on the album proper and this is a cover of the band suicide um great band that um springsteen really liked wow three three covers three covers and uh springo would do this on his uh his solo acoustic tours he would do it on the organ to close out the show sometimes. So they wanted to do an album version of sort of that.

Would you say Three Cubs instead of Three Covers? Yeah, I probably would. Okay. Yeah, I think that just is cooler. Yeah, that's fun. It gives me a little more street cred. Yeah.

This is Dream Baby Dream by Bruce Springsteen. Dream baby dream. Dream baby dream. Dream, baby, dream Dream, baby, dream Come on and dream, baby, dream Come on and dream, baby, dream We gotta keep the light burning Come on, we gotta keep the light burning

Come on, we gotta keep the light burning Come on, we gotta keep the light burnin' Come on, we gotta keep the light burnin' Come on and dream, baby, dream We gotta keep the fire burnin' Come on, we gotta keep the fire burnin' Come on, we gotta keep the fire burning Come on and dream, baby, dream Come open up your heart Come on and open up your heart

Come on and open up your heart Come on, dream on, dream, baby, dream Come on and open up your heart. Come on, dream on. Dream, baby, dream. Come on. It builds from there. I think this is a great cover. Yeah, I really like it. The late Alan Vega from Suicide said that this would be what he would want to hear on his deathbed. Don't know whether he achieved that, but uh yeah they sort of had a had a mutual admiration

spring suicide doesn't seem like a band that spring scene would be into but he really liked them and then uh suicide covered born in the usa which just came out in the last year or so can we hear the suicide version of dream baby dream yeah yeah it was produced by uh rick okasik um and it's kind of a lou reed yeah sort of feel like you know that suicide did uh kind of drone music in a way um before anyone really knew what that was rem covered ghostwriter oh yeah like a b-side of yeah pop song, I think. Okay, this is the Suicide version. dream baby dream

dream baby dream dream baby dream dream baby dream forever you could almost make a case that Springo's version is better, but this version is so kind of ingrained in my past. I like them both. They're both great.

Yeah, I think it was always great to hear him do that live on his solo tour, and I think that's a great studio version of it. Yeah, very cool. Alright, so then we're going to hear four songs from the American Beauty EP, which was the EP he put out a few months later with cast-offs from this album. I mean, it didn't even make this

album, but they put out four songs on this EP, and this is American Beauty by Bruce Springsteen. My heart, like it was paper Reels crackling with the headlights And on your shoulder Wings in the phone lines Martin, Billy Will you be mine

On this highway Counting white lines What do we think of American Beauty? I really like this song. Yeah, I know. It should have been on it. It's so good. This, by the way, the reason this EP exists is they put it out for Record Store Day. So they wanted to support Record Store.

They have these four songs and they're like, let's just do this for record store day. This is such a good song. I don't know why it's not forgot about this song. Yeah. It's really good. Okay. Let's hear track two from this EP. Extended play. This is a song called

Mary Mary. This is by Bruce Springsteen. about that story going round and round All I got's a book of love with pages one clean through Circle of gold and one bleeding tattoo Mary, Mary, where have you gone to? Mary, Mary, where have you gone to? This town's a secret shed and shattered in a sad song. Just a torn, tattered pieces of a love gone wrong. Hearts of stone and eyes gone deep blue. What do we think of Mary Mary?

I really like this song too. It's good, yeah. I feel like I don't think it's exceptional, but I think it would have fit on the record as a nice, especially if there weren't all these overblown stuff in the actual record proper. I feel like it's better than a lot of the stuff on the album. We'll find out whether you're going to keep it on your ultimate version okay of high hopes um let's go to track three of four of these uh cast offs from the american beauty ep this is hurry up sundown

by bruce springsteen It's the end of another working day Come on and pack your blues away Change your clothes, we'll go for a ride To the other side Harriet Sundown Harriet Sundown I like all these songs because they're short, too. Yeah, and they're all just like really good pop songs. Yeah, this kind of reminds me of R.E.M. in a lot of ways.

Yeah. Or like late 90s R.E.M. Or early 2000s R.E.M. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Okay, we'll find out at the end whether you'll put that on your ultimate version of High Hopes. Now this is just snowballing into an event. This is going to be a Fortnite event.

All right, this is the final song. This is the fourth song from the American Beauty EP. This is called Hey, Blue Eyes. Hey, by Bruce Springsteen. They're holding a committee of treason and lies double-speak and sedition Then somebody dies From the hell

the smell of lilacs And the repeat of guns She closes the window and draws the blinds Her first touch sucks the air from my lungs A blue of eyes First touch sucks the air from my lungs Hey blue eyes

What you doing tonight? Hey blue eyes Yeah it's alright This house we've abandoned history This house that I've going to fade it out because it's another shorty, but this was recorded for Magic. And this was a, even though it sounds like a Hey Blue Eyes, it sounds like a love song. It's actually an attack on the Bush administration. The blue eyed person addressed in the chorus is at least metaphorically a jailer at Guantanamo Bay. What do we think of Hey Blue Eyes?

I think it's fine. What are you typing? I'm creating my ultimate. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. yeah oh my god this is gonna be amazing um what do you think i like it i think i think i like it more than the the super loud overblown stuff yeah um okay so you're creating your ultimate playlist. I'm going to do the same. Okay. I'm moving them into a different playlist.

I'm going to sort of rearrange the order a little bit. So am I. Are you really? Yeah. Well, guess what? I am too. Well, I'm doing it right now. I'm doing it better than you. I'm doing it way before you did. Okay, I'm doing it better than you.

I'm doing it way before you did. Okay, I'm done. What? It's just a cursory stab, but I did my ultimate version, and I'm interested to hear what yours is and how long yours is whenever you're ready adam mine is 10 songs mine's 11 interesting how long is yours mine's 43 minutes

mine's 39 minutes oh i bet that we have the same songs, only I added one that maybe you wouldn't have. What song opens your album? What are we calling this album? We're calling this High Hopes, the ultimate Adam and Scott edition. Okay. You know what?

I'm going to open it with High Hopes just because it's the title track, and I think it is a burst of energy. It's not my favorite but i uh but you know i'd open with it what about you i'm opening with american beauty that's my number two song what's your number two just like firewood just like firewood that's my number three what's your number three heaven's wall that's my number five what's your number four? I go Mary Mary after Just Like Firewood. Is your number three.

Is my number four. I go High Hopes, American Beauty, Just Like Firewood, Mary Mary, Heaven's Wall, Frankie Fell in Love, Hurry Up Sundown, This Is Your Sword, Hunter of Invisible Game, Hey Blue Eyes, Dream Baby Dream. Hold on one sec. I bet you didn't pick. Hey, blue eyes,

but everything else is the same. I, Oh my God. The excitement is just building. I, this is an incredible event. Fucked up and deleted everything? No I didn't

add a song that I meant to. Which one did you mean because this is your sword I meant to have on here and it wasn't here. Okay so you got it on there now so yours is 11 songs 11 songs and it is since that's a 250 it's probably around 42 minutes. 42 minutes okay so

mine is American Beauty Just Like Firewood, it's probably around 42 minutes. 42 minutes. Okay, so mine is American Beauty, Just Like Firewood, Heaven's Wall, Frankie Fell in Love, Hunter of Invisible Game, Hurry Up, Sundown, This Is Your Sword, The Wall, Dream Baby Dream, Mary Mary.

No. Fuck. Wait. What? What's wrong? You wanted Mary Mary. you like mary mary i do but this is not the order i i wanted it to end on dream baby dream that's fine so we'll go we'll go mary mary before dream baby dream so the the the you you pick the wall instead of hey blue eyes that's no i have hey blue eyes on oh you do the only one from the EP I didn't choose. Oh no, I did not want Hey Blue Eyes. I know. Okay.

So mine is 10 songs. 10 songs, 38 minutes. List your 10 songs. American Beauty, Just Like Firewood, Heaven's Wall, Frankie Fell in Love, Hunter of Invisible Game, Hurry Up Sundown, This Is Your Sword, Mary Mary, The Wall, Dream Baby Dream. Great. Okay. So you didn't use High Hopes at all. No. game hurry up sundown this is your sword mary mary the wall dream baby dream great okay so you didn't use high hopes at all no uh you didn't use hey blue eyes um and you put the wall on instead of me i used high hopes i used hey blue eyes um but other than that we're pretty pretty much the

same and around the same track listing although i would move the wall okay build the wall that's what i would do build that wall make mexico pay for it um the wall would go between this is your sword and mary mary and then after mary mary dream baby dream wonderful i think we're pretty similar in in our likes and dislikes on this i i do think just put out and just put out a digital single with those two songs i don't mind them all that much american skin and and tom jode i just don't think they belong on same i really like those songs i just don't think they fit on the album and i personally think the wall is really good i just don't think it belongs on this album either i think i'd put it out earlier or do something else with it, but fine. Fine.

Um, so high hopes in general, what are our thoughts? I mean, I don't really think it works, but there's some really good songs on it. Sometimes you have something like a broken drum. It doesn't work.

Right. But you also can't beat it. And this is a little more like it doesn't work. Um, but you can beat it. You can't beat it and this is a little more like it doesn't work um but you can beat it you can't beat it um it's not a well-regarded record in his discography if you look at springsteen albums ranked it's usually down although rolling stone gave it four and a half out of five stars hell yeah and it was the number two album of the year it did debut at number one on the billboard 200 um which you know is not incredibly hard to do at that point in time if you're a huge star um because you have an enormous group of fans who are still buying records um at the time but uh and you know if nothing else he and jimmy fallon appeared on the show singing the uh chris christie song and um it'll be interesting to hear where it

uh lands on our ranking of all springsteen's records and as a programming note we we are gonna we got so many uh requests to do a western stars uh episode just focusing on that um we're gonna fit it in sure um before adam has to leave for a little town called new york city heard of it i have um to get back to a show that some of you may like called succession what is it again succession succession that's right yeah we're remaking we're remaking succession um so join us next week for a western stars um episode we'll catch you up as to what happens after this um because they do go on a big high hopes tour um and uh maybe not huge but they they definitely keep kind of the momentum going of having tom morello um i think springo calls it the most well-attended um show of their career um shows or tour of their career really yeah like the most successful well-attended show of their career, shows or tour of their career.

Really? Yeah, like the most successful, well-attended, because they went everywhere with it too. Like they went to places they had only been on the Amnesty tour. I think he's just like having a ball touring at this point. Meanwhile, little Steven filming Lilyhammer.

So he didn't go on that tour. He was not on this tour, yeah. I that tour. He was not on this tour. Yeah, I think Tom Morello was solely on this tour. And then we'll catch you up on what happens in between then and Western Stars because there's a few really interesting things that he does in between those. But that's going to be on our next episode. That's going to do it for this episode, Adam. It's always great to spend time with you. You too, buddy. We'll see our next episode. That's going to do it for this episode, Adam. It's always great to spend time with you.

You too, buddy. We'll see you next time, but until then, we hope that you've found what you're looking for. Bye! I'm out.