U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Springin' Springsteen On My Bean? - Human Touch & Lucky Town

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

Scott and Scott listen to and resequence all the songs on Human Touch and Lucky Town—Da Boss’s ninth and tenth studio albums both released on the same day. Plus, Scott quizzes Adam on the names of... characters he’s played, they get into Bruce firing the Edible Street Band, and Scott speaks to god.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From born in the USA to death to my hometown, this is You Springin' Springsteen on My Bean, the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things Da Boss. Da Boss. This is good rock and roll. Music? Hey everyone, welcome to the show. Have a great one for you today. We will be going through not one, not three, not four, not five, no, not six, not seven. Wait, wait, wait. Can I guess?
Starting point is 00:00:52 Okay. Yeah, I guess. Nine. Not seven, not eight, not nine, not tens. So not nine or nine? Not nine, not nine. Nine, nine. nine nine that from what's that from uh the word nine yes it was a great movie starring daniel day lewis thank you uh also uh said on the television program hogan's heroes quite a bit nine thank you ah nine thank you american Nine. Thank you very much. American Schweinhund. Thank you. You're welcome. Not one, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven, not eight, not nine, not 10,
Starting point is 00:01:36 not 11, not 12, not 13, not 14, not 15, not 16. Not 19 either. 29. Not 29 albums. No, we're not going to be talking about 29 albums today. Okay. We're going to be talking about two. Two different albums today.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Whoa. I had no idea it would be that many. I mean, it's surprising. We're going to be talking about Human Touch and Lucky Town today. Two albums by Bruce Springsteen. Without the Edible Street Band? Well, that's yet to be determined. I am curious. Did any member
Starting point is 00:02:12 of... Excuse you. Sorry, I had to cough. I've had to cough ever since I started speaking. Really? Which is a horrible position. When you were a child? Yes. And I finally just did it. Oh, thank goodness. Oh, this feels much better. Is this an episode of This Feels Much Better? I think it is.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Hey everyone, welcome to This Feels Much Better. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're talking about things that, after you do them, after you do them after you do that everything feels better coughing came up but I think there's something that you like even better than that is that right Adam alright we'll see you later bye
Starting point is 00:03:02 bye All right. We'll see you later. Bye. Bye. Oh, boy. What a show. That was a great inaugural episode. It's truly was. I would listen. Subscribe. Sure.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Rate it five stars. Sure. I'll listen every week. I want more. Daily, I hope. Yeah, we're going to be talking about two albums today and uh quite simply not because we're trying to rush through this show necessarily they're very much one in the same you're saying they're one album because i said not one not three not four not five not six very much two albums but also very much one in the same um i do have a question though okay yeah are there an episode
Starting point is 00:03:53 of i do have a question though yes hey everyone welcome to i Do Have a Question Though. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And anyway, so I was saying that the other day... I do have a question though. Oh my gosh. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:15 How old are you? How old am I? Yeah. How old do I look? Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Actually, I do have a question, though. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:29 What decade were you born in? It was a 10-year period, if that's what you're asking. Hmm. I do have a question, though. Yes. In that 10-year period, were the beatles together together as in like john was together with yoko and paul was together with linda yes well yeah i do have a
Starting point is 00:04:56 question though if john was together with yoko was this the decade in which they winked at each other publicly? Let me think back. Let's see. You know, I have what Mary Lou Henner has where she can remember every single thing she did. Yeah, photographic memory? Not photographic necessarily, but she remembers everything. Okay. She don't not remember shit disease.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Wait, is it called a, that's not called a photographic memory. I don't think it's called photographic memory. I think a photographic memory is like I looked at something and I remember every detail of it. Right. This is like, you bring up a date to her. And she knows everything. She knows what she had to eat. She knows everything, every single thing she did.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I would think that would be an incredible, it's like a superpower. It's a lot like, yeah, she's the world's first superhero. I know that she hates it though. Doesn't she hate it? Hasn't she said that? I don't know that. I'd have to, let me look through my memory to see if she's ever said that. Bring up a date and I'll see if she said it on that date.
Starting point is 00:06:04 October 4th, 2014. No, she was dead by then. Whoa. You know, she was on a Party Down episode and I wanted to ask her. You wanted to bring it up? Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:20 But then I thought she might forget. She might forget that she had it or that that we ever had the conversation interesting no i what is your question want to uh what is your question i don't remember okay bye bye i don't know about that show. I felt like it was meandering and unimportant. I felt like one of the hosts never had any questions, and then one of the hosts had just really inane questions. I felt like one of the hosts was sort of dancing around answering a question.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Evasive? Yeah. Hmm. Deflective. Maybe. Perhaps. Maybe one of the hosts is a little insecure about, you know, just how long he's been on this earth.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I think one of the hosts takes his cues from Trump on the witness stand. Oh! Fuck yeah, bro. Score. That was amazing. Thank you. That was fucking incredible what you just did when you tied it you tied together current events current events and me dodging the question of how old i was and this being a podcast people can listen to it anytime that is going to age super well yes of course yeah well we'll always talk about trump on the witness on the witness it's evergreen we'll tell our children about it remember when old man trump was on the witness
Starting point is 00:07:50 stand i told my children about it just since we've been talking you texted them yep oh are you on a group chain with your children yeah right now what's the group chain called hey kids hey kiddos they love getting texts from hey, kiddos. They love during a school day when they're hanging out with their friends getting texts from their dad. At what point do kids start not wanting to ever hang out with you? Hang out with you, yeah. It's not at one year old, right? I hope.
Starting point is 00:08:23 No, it starts at two. Oh two oh shit so i only have a good 11 no you have you have a good like 12 solid years of some enthusiastic yeah uh hang time it starts faltering and getting a little off balance at around 11 they start kind of cluing in but it's not until like i don't know it does it it probably doesn't help that to your children's friends you're just like the worst like in terms of like what you've achieved in your career yeah like culturally the fact that you have a podcast yeah culturally i am a zero like if you were someone cool oh then you know like if you were one of the chris's oh my god oh my god a hamzy oh my god or a prado maybe a little evy oh oh man that would be something their friends would be lining up the block to hang out with you.
Starting point is 00:09:25 They would wonder what kind of nutritional shakes I make myself. Yeah, how many abs you have. Do you call it a six-pack or a 12-pack? None of those questions come at me. No. Has there ever been a time where anyone's come over to the house and started asking you you about show business no like is it cool to be on a set they they don't care at all my parents came to i invited them to uh an episode of comedy bang bang in the second season and uh my my wife was in the scene yeah and we were acting up a storm yeah and about half an hour in they
Starting point is 00:10:05 were like well this has been fun we gotta go really it was so boring oh god it is pretty boring but to be on a set but it's also kind of cool especially i would since they probably haven't been on a lot of sets right um that one was enough for them yeah it was pretty boring for them yeah especially with uh you know there's always a little bit of action whenever the director shouts out those magic words no cut oh cut yeah everyone stop oh thank god yeah oh my god have you ever been on a set and the director forgets to yell cut and you're just acting and acting and acting then you go home and you're just acting and acting and acting then you go home and you're still in the middle of the scene see i i think of it differently i see that
Starting point is 00:10:49 as an opportunity yes to just do live in the character just more truth telling yeah exactly so you go home or sometimes you don't even go home that's not the character's home if he didn't yell cut i'm not stopping i i don't i don't break character until he says cut and sometimes he has to call me at like four in the morning really yeah because my family's like he hasn't come home yet no i'm home but i'm still whatever the character may be so they have to get in touch with the director and have him please please get on the phone with him and say cut yeah he's gonna keep doing it we've said cut he doesn't listen to us no because i don't know who they are i don't know how do you know to go home then because that's your character backstory they always have the same house my driver only knows one one address it'd be so
Starting point is 00:11:42 funny if you were embedded into your character background. He always lives at this place. That's right. No matter what, this is his home. Remember the Between Two Ferns? I feel like I brought this up to you recently where we named your character names. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I don't think it made it into the actual cut of it. Didn't they all sound like beta males? It was like Ron Stadler. Yeah. John Novak. Are you reading them right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Ed McKenzie. Aren't there like three Joshes? Justin Sanderson. Some of the wonderful characters you've created. And you started laughing. You were like, you didn't even recognize them. No, I had no idea. You're like, are those mine?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Justin Sanderson. Trevor. There's one that I do remember because of its like banality. And it's from that movie, The Matador. Oh, I love them. You were in The Matador? I thought that movie was matador oh i love them you were in the matador i thought it was really good it is a really good movie you were in a movie recently that i saw i told you this when we were watching the talking heads movie i did not even recognize you until
Starting point is 00:12:54 the credits came up and i was like adam was in this and i had to what movie was the star trek movie oh that's right yeah um what what was uh the matador, the matter, Phil Garrison, Phil Garrison. That was my character's name. You've had a lot of shit. Look at this. I am. That was, that was a good movie. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I did enjoy that. Wait, is this I love films? Yes, I think it is. Hey everyone. Welcome to I love films. This is Scott.. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And today we're zeroing in on one particular actor.
Starting point is 00:13:29 That's right. Phil Garrison. You know what's cool about the man in the door? Jeremy. Name that movie. Jeremy. Jeremy. No last name apparently.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Oh, was that Party of Five five it was not that's our idiot brother starring our good Jeremy Paul Rudd Jeremy can you imagine playing someone named Jeremy I do not when you're doing something short like that like our idiot brother yeah and you're just playing a character with no last name you're just Jeremy yeah do you do any work at all or do you show up and learn your lines that day? Well, clearly, I didn't even know the character's name. Oh, my God. News anchor. Oh, that was for Nick Swartzen's thing, right?
Starting point is 00:14:15 For 10 Time? What about Eastbound and Down? Do you remember your- Yeah, Pat Anderson. Pat Anderson. Yeah. How do you remember that? Because it's such a well-constructed name for the guy, for what a douchebag.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I see, yeah. What about Children's Hospital? Do you remember your- I do not. Lieutenant D'Gore Coru. Oh, I think, was that a Star Trek? I think so, yeah. What about Piranha 3D?
Starting point is 00:14:42 Apparently- Novak, that's Novak. Yeah, you only had one name in that? Just Novak? I guess. Oh, this is so fun. God, your IMDb is long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Long as my fucking dick. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, bye. Bye. Interesting. Really. Oh, interesting. Really, really obnoxious finish there.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Jesus. I don't know. We are talking about, of course, a man named Bruce Springsteen. Yeah. And nothing else. Nothing else, of course. And, you know, I mean, that's what you do when you have a podcast about a guy. My question was, are there zero Edible Street Band members playing on these two albums? Other than Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:15:44 That's, I know the answer to it. Yeah, that's why I'm asking. Oh, is that what happens? When someone knows something and another person asks about something? I mean, as far as I've learned, and according to my experience, that is how it works. Tell you what, I'll take guesses.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Take the first part of the question last. Okay, yeah, and I'll take it off air okay so i'll just i'll take the second part of the question on air okay and then the first part of the question off off air yeah great so just ask me the second part of the question on air um on these two albums? Hmm. So that's the part you're going to answer on air. On these two albums? Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Now the first part of the question,
Starting point is 00:16:36 we're going to do that off air. Yes, we're going to do it. Yeah, I'll tell you that off air. I'll take an educated guess because you're an educated guy, right? Did you go to college, or what's your higher learning status? Kind of. But let's get back to this.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I've been trying to ask this question for a while. Did you ever have a teacher that was just particularly inspiring to you, where you were like, man, this makes me excited to get into class? Yeah, of course. Feels like you're lying right now. man, this makes me excited to get into class. Yeah, of course. It feels like you're lying right now. No, I'm really not. It's Robin Williams in Dead Poets Society. Yes. He was amazing.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah. So you would go and stand on your desk every day? Every single day. Oh my gosh. So you've been trying to ask what question now for a while? Are there any members of the Edible Street Band that play on these fucking albums? You're going to have to wait to hear that, Adam.
Starting point is 00:17:37 God, it's such a good story. But do you want to guess before we get there? Yes. Okay, go ahead. Do you want me to guess right now? I'll take your guess off air. I thought you were just curious about my desire to guess. Yeah, do you want to guess?
Starting point is 00:17:50 That's all I want to know. Yes. Oh, man, I'm not going to let you. Oh, goddammit. We are talking, of course, about Bruce Springsteen, and he was in the news recently. I know we're taping this a few weeks ahead of when it comes out but he told a bunch of dirty jokes now why did he do that I you sent me the
Starting point is 00:18:15 clip and I was it billed as like a heat well it's a the stand-up for heroes benefit which oh so that people were doing stand-up that night yeah yeah it's a comedy benefit for superheroes so like spider so they raise money for like spider-man because you know how he's always like trying to sell pictures to J Jonah Jameson right for extra money
Starting point is 00:18:37 for his aunt Maeve for her medicine yeah and they are so cheap with him yeah so it's a it's a benefit for that but he does it every year but he wasn't going to do it this year because uh he was going to be touring but because of his tour shows got uh postponed that's right uh he was able to do it and he always does like acoustic songs and then because it's a stand-up event he tells jokes street jokes oh so he does
Starting point is 00:19:02 that every year every year oh. Oh, I see. Okay. All right. Every year as far as I can remember, and I can remember this year. Okay. I never heard about him doing it other than that. But you're just assuming it's a long-held tradition.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Well, I read the article that I sent you. What did you do? I just watched the videos. So they said that every year he does it, he tells street jokes. Yeah, exactly. So he told,
Starting point is 00:19:29 let's see. Uh, I can, I can play it here. Let's, uh, they're really good. Life is like a penis.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Women make it harder for no reason so he's doing he's doing what a good stand up does which is he's like letting half the punchline to the punchline and taking a pause and then like almost tagging it at the end with another punchline
Starting point is 00:20:00 he gets two laughs that's what a good stand up does so life is like a penis save the sexist part for last i i think they're the the punchline is equally sexist in both halves yeah i think you're right but they're street jokes so everyone expects them to be sexist or bad, dumb jokes or whatever. In fact, let me see if I can find the next joke, because that one wasn't listed on this. Here we go. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Old man sitting on the porch, kid walking by in a big basket filled with chicken fire. You know, the man says, son, where you going? He says, I'm going to get me some chickens. Son, you can't get no chickens without a chicken barn. Kid comes back later that afternoon, big basket full of chickens. Next day, kid comes by the old man on the front porch. Big basket full of duck cake. Where are you going, son? I'm going to get on the front porch. Big basket for a duck tank. Where you going, son?
Starting point is 00:21:07 I'm going to get some ducks, son. You can't catch ducks without a duck tank. Get us back that afternoon. Big basket for ducks. Weird joke, right? Yeah, so far, very weird. Particularly a basket full of chickens is confusing and it just ended right there yeah strange that's a weird joke it's a very strange
Starting point is 00:21:32 joke maybe the punchline is he came back with ducks a basket full of ducks i guess that is pretty funny it is pretty funny it's pretty good it would be very funny if he instead of doing what every non-comedian does when they have to appear at a stand-up thing, they just tell a street joke. Like if he worked on a tight five minutes of actual material. Oh, yeah. That would be amazing. And he just debuted it. Like went to the cellar and worked on it.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Oh, that would be so good. Yeah. I would love to go to the cellar and just see Bruce come up and try out some new bits. Would it all be about life on the road and backstage and stuff? I guess so. Or on stage. Or how hard it is to write a song. Life is hard for no reason.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It's like a penis. It's like a woman. And you're like, Bruce. Good stuff anyway. They raised a lot of money for Tony tony stark and peter parker and so many it's great those guys need it all the chris's as well if you've if people who have just portrayed heroes on screen oh yeah they get the money they get money from that as well so it's a wonderful cause so there are people too they need money just like everybody else everyone needs
Starting point is 00:22:39 money you know what i mean like uh you ever been in uh uh you know a footlocker and you're like hi i'll just take these shoes and you just like walk out with them and people are like whoa yeah wait a minute sir wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute you have to pay us money for those right what oh yeah how how does this work how what what do i how do i how do i do? How do I do that? How do I give you- You're not just going to let me have these? Yeah. I'm supposed to give you all of these $100 bills that are in my hands just to you?
Starting point is 00:23:17 These shoes cost $700? Boy, these days. Hey. With Bidenomics? You aren't kidding. You know what I mean? You aren't kidding't kidding boy i'll tell you one thing it's getting more and more expensive to uh put the old shoe leather uh on uh my the soles of my feet these days practically getting charged for walking down the street boy uh yeah uh excuse me uh do i need to pay a toll to just walk down the street these days?
Starting point is 00:23:47 The other day, I was just climbing a tree just for fun. Taxman up at the top of the tree. Money, please. Cha-ching, cha-ching. I was like, gosh. Just even the other day, I swallowed a fly. Yeah. He comes in.
Starting point is 00:24:02 He's like, excuse me, cha-ching. That'll be $350 yeah yeah the other day i went just climbed up on my roof to eat my lunch a lot recently yeah i like climbing that's what i do for fun i like climbing you're a climbing guy but not anymore you know why why tax man up on the roof up on the roof what is it roof tax like give me that money or sandwich tax which tax it was both there's a tax for sandwich and for roof really yeah what about a climbing tax that's next that's my next story wait so he didn't get you those so he just assumed you were on the roof he thought that i just was like there oh yeah okay but then the next time he actually saw me where were you climbing then?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Well, don't worry about it. I want to know where you climb, bro. Wait, is this an episode of I Want to Know Where You Climb, Bro? Yes. It's the climb. Hey, everyone. Welcome to I Want to Know Where You Climb, bro. This is Scott.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And this is Scott. And bro! What? I gotta know! Where are you climbing these days? How am I supposed to be able to list all the places I climb? I don't know which ones you're interested in. Just start and I'll tell you which ones I'm not interested in.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Okay, tree. No, not interested in okay tree no not interested roof no other than that i can't tell you right now what's going on you're being very evasive and cagey about where else you climbed look this is a podcast that a lot of people listen to wait a minute wait a minute you weren't climbing on a ladder, were you? Shut up. Motherfucker, you told me you weren't going to climb on any more ladders. You don't know who's listening to this. You think Big Ladder is listening to this? Not only Big Ladder, but the tax man. Shit.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Do you know how much the tax is for climbing a ladder these days? How much? I would imagine it's quite a bit. taxes for climbing a ladder these days how much i would imagine it's quite a bit i can imagine up to probably three hundred dollars maybe depends on the ladder bro what like what what differentiates the different ladders like amount of rungs oh my god do i I really have to? Uh, there was a camera. I'd look into it right now.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Oh, a lot like on that show that you were on the office for dummies. Is that what you call my parks? That's what I call every show you've been on. No, the what's the new, whatever it is for dummies. Um, that new one you're on is The Office for Dummies.
Starting point is 00:26:47 All right. Bye. Bye. It's the climb. Good enough. That was interesting. I like that show, yeah. Not as good as that first show
Starting point is 00:27:00 we listened to. That was riveting. Yeah, which one was that? I can't remember. Okay. Okay, so show we listened to that was riveting but uh yeah which one was that i can't remember okay um okay so we're here to talk about a double it's not even a double album but it is a double album no it's they came out the same day hey you came out the same day as someone just shit in the ocean i'm sure what you think that you're related somehow how dare you uh okay well okay okay okay all right okay look we gotta take a break okay
Starting point is 00:27:37 all right okay but when we come back we're gonna going to talk about not only, not one, not three, not five, but so many albums. As a matter of fact, we're going to talk about two of these albums, and they're called Human Touch and Lucky Town. We're going to talk about both of them when we come back. This is an exciting episode. We'll be right back with more. You spring and Springsteen on My Bean after this. Hey, welcome back this is you spring and spring soon on my bean and um i never introduced you i feel i were or myself i worry that people listen to the first to a block it just confused and whether they don't know who we were who it was
Starting point is 00:28:46 yeah okay so do you want to introduce me and i'll introduce you sure scott this is adam adam this is scott like that yeah yeah so just introduce me this is sc. And this is Adam. Great. Great. It's great to meet you. Great to meet you. It's so, I've heard about you. Me too. It's weird that we've never met, but yeah, I think,
Starting point is 00:29:14 I feel like our wives are friends. Yes. And I feel like, I almost feel like we've like already spent quite a bit of time together. Quite a lot. Yeah. Just never met. It's just never met it's weird but it's weird but here we are hey so nice to meet you yeah you too please stop shaking my hand sorry
Starting point is 00:29:30 so we're here to talk about human touch and lucky town which traditionally comes first comes first. In, how do you mean? Alphabetically. Human Touch, I believe does. I,
Starting point is 00:29:49 first, well, I'll, I'll tell you for some reason it feels like Human Touch is, is disc one. Okay. And Lucky Town is disc two, but there's a reason for that,
Starting point is 00:29:57 I believe. Let's, let's go through some stats. What do you say? Please. Both albums released on March 31st 1992 what were you doing in 1992 well this is only about six months after guns and roses put out use your illusion one and two that's right so he was so you were still listening to that? Yeah, that's what I was doing. That's what you were doing, not what he was doing. But he was basically just doing what they did because both of those albums sold insanely well.
Starting point is 00:30:33 That's what I thought he was doing, but there's a little bit of a difference that we'll talk about. Okay. But what were you up to in 19? I was in my first year of acting school after high school. And you must have quit a few days in. Is that having senior work? That's right. Two days.
Starting point is 00:30:53 You made it two days. Two days of acting school. I was just about to wrap up because I think our school year ended in April or something but yeah that's what I was doing. What were you doing? I was ending my acting school I believe I graduated in May so I had about a month and a half
Starting point is 00:31:16 left so I must have been I think I was probably working on A Midsummer Night's Dream where I portrayed the role of Lysander, one of the lovers. The Bard. Ah, The Bard.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Of course, we're talking about Shakespeare. I know this is a music podcast. Yeah, but listen. You gotta know Willie Shakes. Oh, yeah. You know? So yeah, I was doing that. I was in the middle of a production of that.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I think I was, God, was I in a, was I in Jesus Christ Superstar at the time too, maybe? I don doing that. I was in the middle of a production of that. I think I was, God, was I in a, was I in Jesus Christ superstar at the time too? Maybe. I don't know. I'm asking God. Oh, sorry. God.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Hello. Hello up there. Scott. I know. Look, God, I know you normally get prayers asking for help with something. And this is no different,
Starting point is 00:32:03 but I'm only asking you for help for me to remember something. What is it? Well, I am Jesus Christ Superstar. You know the show about your son in March of 1992. Believe me, I know the play. What do you think about it, by the way?
Starting point is 00:32:23 What do I think about what? The play Jesus Christ Superstar? The play or the movie? I've lost interest at this point. I don't care what you thought. Anyway, was I in it? When? Okay, God, fuck off. God, praying is so hard these days yeah it's it's tough that was pretty incredible though that you actually oh yeah i got him on the horn yeah yeah uh in any case uh this what was going on musically at the time uh nirvana had just put out uh never mind oh we were in the midst of grunga palooza oh yeah um octoon baby had come out those were both fall of 91 so we were kind of in the midst and and
Starting point is 00:33:14 pearl jam was just breaking yeah what about what about out of time was that uh that was march of 91 so yeah a year into out of time a lot happening in music yes and red hot chili peppers of course oh yeah blood sugar sex magic sex magic a lot a lot of uh a time of change yeah and this is uh i remember this coming out and it seeming like something that was completely out of step with what was going on yes well it's five years since his previous record five years five years that's a lot especially for a an artist in their prime like this yeah a person who had just had one of the hugest albums of all time that of course that was 1984 though so now we're talking eight years since then and he put out tunnel of love in 87
Starting point is 00:34:05 and then just five years go by and he's just sitting on his ass tunnel of love was huge but it was certainly wasn't the cultural thing like you said um yeah so what was he doing for that whole time okay so uh so he when we last left off pat Patty Scalfa, his SO, significant other, had said, hey, bro, I'm preggers. And so pretty much they had their son, Evan, and moved to LA. So he moved into a house in the canyon, right? So suddenly he has money. And so he moves into a house in the canyon in LA and um he just can't he has writer's block is that right yeah he he just he tries to write songs and they are all like he considers them to be just pale
Starting point is 00:34:59 imitations of songs he's already written and so he's just like i'm just not feeling it so he just was not writing stuff this is in like 89 right yeah 89 90 so then the other thing that happens is he calls up who else the edible street band oh man and he says those classic words that we all listen to every week on a little show on NBC. He says, you're fired. Oh yeah. Love it. He, he fires the edible street band because he,
Starting point is 00:35:35 I guess that, I think he says that he wanted to stretch out a little musically, but also I think in his book, he talks about the fact that he sort of became everything to them in the way of like they became dependent on him. I wonder if he had to pay them even when they weren't active. So he talks about the Tunnel of Love tour being the first time that he ever put them on contracts because he sort of intimates that when it was just, hey, after the tour, here's the money you made, people would constantly call him up and be like, hey, I'm going to buy a house. I need some money.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And he would be, without contracts, he would be looked at as sort of like their banker and he would be giving them money all the time. And so Tunnel of Love, everyone was, the edibles were sort of pissed at him that they were on contracts. But he's like, no, no, no, this is good because now you know how much money you make definitively and you can stop asking me wait why would they ask him for money for a house just like well you're gonna we're gonna be touring next year anyway can i get some
Starting point is 00:36:35 money ahead of i don't even know if it was in advance as much as it was like hey i need some money and you're a rich guy really yeah so I think he felt like they were sort of taking advantage, taking advantage of him. Yeah. He, he intimates that in the book. Um, so I think he just was like,
Starting point is 00:36:52 I need a break from these people. Yeah. And, um, so he breaks, he, he calls up everyone. He says they were all gentlemanly about it.
Starting point is 00:37:00 They all were like cool with it to his face. But, um, I think everyone kind of got their feelings hurt by it. So he's just sitting around. He's trying to write songs. But he also, the other part is he's happy for the first time in his relationship. He has a son. He does talk in the book, interestingly, about how he's at a remove from his family in a way because he's like, well, I'm a rocker.
Starting point is 00:37:30 He talks about how he has the rock star lifestyle. So he stays up till four in the morning every night, which is fine when someone needs to be up with the baby until four in the morning. But then when the baby starts sleeping through the night, he still isn't changing. Yeah. And Patty's like. You have to start. You're missing everything's like uh you have to start you're missing everything yeah you have to start getting so he he devotes himself to his family he becomes happy and he's sort of like i don't know what i have nothing to write about really yeah so it's not like he needs money either he's yeah yeah so he's sitting around in like 1990 and he after he breaks up the edibles he
Starting point is 00:38:07 goes to dinner with roy bitten um and roy says like oh yeah i've been working on these songs and he has these instrumentals and he's thinking of selling them to don henley and he's like oh yeah i have these instrumentals and bruce is like let me hear him yeah and he listens to him and goes uh-huh uh-huh okay i'm gonna try to write some melodies over these so he goes home and like writes melodies over him is the first time he like cracks open his songwriting wow and so he calls up roy bittenitton and he goes, okay, you're going to produce this record with all the normal producers. So Roy, he's there with John Landau and who else but Chucky Plotz. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Chucky Plotz is back. Chucky Plotz says Roy had to buy his way back into the band the way that we all have had to at certain points in our lives. Yeah. at certain points in our lives yeah so he he roy basically like wrote these instrumental songs which gets the juices flowing yeah for him again so that's how this all starts so is this the first time he's sharing songwriting credit with a member of the band i think so yeah uh and and they did they they ended up not having too many songs they end up on the records together, but it sort of is the got the wheels, got the wheels turning. And what's interesting about these two records,
Starting point is 00:39:28 you mentioned guns and roses, right? So sorry, there's one person from the street band involved in this project. Then I don't want to answer that yet. Jesus Christ. So you mentioned the guns and roses thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So for those of you who are not alive in 1991, guns and roses, G and R, we used who were not alive in 1991 guns and roses g and r we used to call them back in the day uh they put out two records called use your illusion and use your illusion two and it was really i think they just were making one record and they wrote so many songs that they're like okay this is going to be a double and it had been for four years since appetite for destruction they put out that ep g and our lies but the world they were the biggest band in the world and they hadn't had any any albums in so long that it was such a big deal so normally when a band puts out a double we've talked about the hamburger case um you know where it's just it's like a big double cheeseburger oh yeah bite into that jewel case
Starting point is 00:40:32 yeah um normally you charge like a little less than you would like i bet if g and r had put out a double record they charged maybe 1999 or something like that for it but they got the big idea hey let's just call these two separate albums and we'll put it out on the same day and we'll maybe $19.99 or something like that for it. But they got the big idea. Hey, let's just call these two separate albums and we'll put it out on the same day and we'll charge the same amount. $14.99 for each. $14.99 for each, right? And they make a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So much money. Because everyone that bought one bought both of them. And there was a lot of discussion in the press like, oh, what's the better one? Who fucking cares? You're going to get them both, asshole. And they was a lot of discussion in the press like, oh, what's the better one? Who fucking cares? You're going to get them both, asshole. And they should have just made one great album instead.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Which is always the case with double albums. Yes. Other than The River. Or The White Album. Yeah. Or, no, that was it. Well, New Adventures in Hi-Fi could be considered a double album, I guess. Because it initially came
Starting point is 00:41:25 out on cd and when they put it on vinyl they had to split it up into two no it's just sorry no it was it was one cd yeah you're right you know jeez but what is it double because a double like nothing like the sun i remember when that came out the sting album it was a double it was a double lp yeah but then it came on one cd yeah so because and the reason for that was because um it was 60 some odd minutes and traditionally you can only fit 21 minutes on a side and you could fit more than that but the quality goes down and sting was like i don't want the quality to go down yeah so you had to so but i think they charged just single album prices oh is that right yeah but like the white album could that just fit on one cd that's like an 80 some odd especially with that
Starting point is 00:42:17 big ass sound collage at the end yeah you take that off yeah it fits on one cd but cds weren't even invented at that point so they didn't care yeah at some point ringo was like peace and love peace and love what if the cd is invented oh yeah yeah yeah he predicted all that yeah they were like shut the fuck up ringo oh should we talk about the new beatles song oh yeah do you want to do you want to hear what do you think about it i think it's i mean i like it yeah i think it's better than, what was the last one they did? Real Love? I like Free as a Bird and then Real Love.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I thought Real Love is a, I don't know. One of them is kind of weak, right? I think the technology they used for this one, I wish they had for Real Love and Free as a Bird. That was what I was kind of wondering is like, are they going to go back to Real Love and Free as a bird and clean them up maybe but i don't think they especially real love it sounds the vocal is so tinny it almost hurts to listen to but it's a great song yeah agreed i think the new one's good though i've only listened to it once it's uh grown on me quite a bit grown yeah it's i don't know if you can see it it's growing up my arm. Wow. I'm so sorry. So that's what GNR did.
Starting point is 00:43:28 They made a ton of money. And I had always assumed that's what Bruce Springsteen did. Was he just, he had a whole bunch of songs and he divvied them up into two albums and put them out on the same day. So are you saying it had nothing to do with Guns N' Roses? roses it it actually adam i am here to tell you that these are not only two separate albums that happen to come out on the same day but they're the result of three different albums that he was making okay but the idea to put out two separate albums on the same day he had to have just been aping what probably bill let me tell you the actual story. So what happened is he and Roy get together
Starting point is 00:44:09 and they start making these demos, right? For the album that ended up being Human Touch. And they make a bunch of demos and they do it to a drum machine. And then Springsteen's like, okay, let me get some actual good musicians, some studio guys yeah to to play on all these so who does he get he gets jeff porcaro from toto he plays the drums
Starting point is 00:44:34 uh and then you have a little guy on bass guitar he's played in such bands like journey and um then uh a mere 10 years after this or or eight years maybe nine years after this he rises to fame as a judge on american idol that's right randy jackson randy jackson plays bass on he plays bass on human touch yes and they recall him during all the sessions saying stuff like yo dog this is a great song and he's he is a big cheerleader for what's going on wow but it's these studio guys right yeah and they're professional players but they're playing along to the demo um so it's not like they're cutting these songs live or whatever. They're replacing the parts on the demo. Right, right. And then you have Patty doing some vocals.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And you do have David Sanctius is the other Edible Street Band member. He plays the organ on two songs. Okay. You have some other people doing some backing vocals. But Springsteen's doing all the guitar on it. And so he's cutting this record while he's also sort of making this other record where he's doing these songs that are a little more about current events and they're not as rocking. And he cuts a whole bunch of those. And then at the end of the day, he has all these songs, right? So they're very much separate projects. Well, he's cutting these at the same time, sort of.
Starting point is 00:46:24 But he's not doing them with the same musicians. Yeah. So he's doing, he's doing this sort of rock album with Randy Jackson and the Toto drummer, and he's doing this other kind of like more arty album with him on bass, uh, separately. And then at the end of the day, he looks at it all and goes like, I think all these songs I did bass on are really interesting, but he goes, I just want to go back out on the road. So let's put out the rock album. So he puts together Human Touch with only one of those other songs on it. And that song is 57 Channels on right okay so that's the human touch album right so he is all ready to put this out in 1991 yeah and he it's locked everything's good locked and loaded locked and fucking loaded bro and he listens back and he's like well this he's like it's good and it's rocking and I want to go out on the road,
Starting point is 00:47:26 but he doesn't feel like it's as optimistic as he's been feeling lately. He's like, it's a little pessimistic on some of the songs. So he goes, no, we're not going to put it out in 1991. Let's just hold it. I'm going to write one more song for it. So then Roy Bitton kind of, oh kind of oh no chucky plots i think hilariously like checks in at some point and goes like what's going on with the album is it coming out and
Starting point is 00:47:52 they're like bruce is back in the studio doing more demos and they're all like no knowing that that could mean three more years yes and uh that he's going because they don't even feel like this album is finished yeah they they they they are quoted as sometimes saying like well this needed another draft that you know like hey why not finish the album you're working on instead of but he's like i'm just gonna write one more song i'm just gonna write one more song so he goes and he starts writing he goes in the studio and starts writing one more song, which then turns into a blast of 11 songs. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:30 That he writes in three weeks. And that's Lucky Town. And that's Lucky Town. Yeah. With different musicians. That's so interesting because, I don't know, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:40 So this is Springsteen on guitar and vocals and then keyboards and bass um and then you have a different guy gary malibu who's on drums roy is is there only on a few songs but then you got patty bringing in a couple of singers as well so it has it the the albums have two totally different sounds they really do they they really have a completely different vibe randy jackson only plays bass on one song better days um on lucky on lucky town and springsteen plays the bass on the rest of the album so they're they're they're essentially you have human touch is one album lucky town is another album and then all of the deleted stuff that ends up on tracks is from this weird bass centric album that springsteen was making that he never put out that he never put out interesting and lucky town is lyrically a
Starting point is 00:49:34 little more optimistic a little more like hey everything's great and i'm doing fine i mean the first song is called better days yes exactly um so those bass songs that Forgotten Project is on tracks, what are those songs like? Well, I'll tell you about a little text exchange I had with my friend Adam, where I said, hey, here are all the songs on tracks that are the B-sides. I'm going to listen to these as well. Should you? And I got back one word, no. so you could have figured this out i completely forgot about that you could have heard all these oh man that's funny i totally forgot about that uh how are they good in fact i i put three of them on uh we'll talk about this a little later you can't use those on the i told you i was going to no okay fine so okay so we have two two different albums human touch is the one that was going to come out in 91 that is an that's almost an hour. That's 58 minutes and 49 seconds. Lucky Town that he writes later is about 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I wonder why they, so why did they decide to put them both out at the same time? That's the thing is, and we'll talk about this when we listen to it. Would it have been better if he mixed the songs up and instead of just saying like, oh, no, Human Touch is the one that I did and Lucky Town is the song thing. Instead, making an album that sounded a little more varied. Yeah. Or put out Human Touch and a year later put out Lucky Town so they have their own identity.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Exactly. But I don't know. Because even the album covers are using the same design the same font and everything i think he feels like human touch as he was saying is not optimistic enough whatever that means it needed the balance it needed a little more yeah of a balance but uh in any case they come out i think it's telling that in his book springsteen barely even mentions these albums right once he just says i put out a couple of records in the early 90s that were about um how good i was feeling and no one seemed to care all that much yeah they were not successful
Starting point is 00:52:00 right well uh human touch went all the way up to number two or uh no uh it went up to no it did yeah uh number two on the billboard yeah but as far as like their sales they didn't end up being that big no human touch was the more successful of the two um you know they're big for bruce for for other bands but for bruce springsteen they're viewed as i thought human touch only sold like a million copies i think they both sold around a million yeah for him that's quite low for that era where you know everyone's buying cds yeah yeah exactly it was pretty low yeah but but the rep on them i told you in our first episode that i was buying them used for two dollars a piece yeah bob odenkirk at the uh at the sale i was at uh chided me saying
Starting point is 00:52:52 like why are you buying those shitty albums and he hadn't heard him either he was just like that was the rep is that these are bad albums yeah that's why i that's what i expected when i listened to them over the last week or so. Because you and I both mentioned to each other off mic where we have many conversations. Several. I wouldn't say many. Several. Not one, not three, not four, but two conversations off mic.
Starting point is 00:53:19 We've talked about how we've never really listened to them all the way through as much as I listen to them on random occasionally. I never listened to the, I mean, I recognized a few songs. I was like, oh, whoa, this is from this period. I had no idea. Yeah. And so I was really surprised by both of these albums. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:39 We'll figure out if that's surprising in a good way or in a bad way. They are considered culturally to be the nadir of springsteen's career yes and i wonder if that's how we'll feel about them now yeah um we're going to listen to the songs and then afterwards all you fans of this show oh man you know what we're gonna do we're gonna re-sequence these what we're going to do. We're going to resequence these, and we're going to make the ultimate album. Or EP. Or double album. Or double album. Or triple album.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. Whatever we want to do out of these, we're going to put out our own versions. That's right. We're going to resequence them. You know how much you love to hear us talk about resequencing things. We've done it for so many records in the past we're gonna do it for these two records this is exciting do we like these do we like these uh records that are considered to be the worst of springsteen's career or do we consider them to
Starting point is 00:54:37 be misses we will uh find out when we come back with more you spring and springsteen on my bean after this. Hey, welcome back. You Spring and Spring spring scene on my bean and we're talking about human touch and lucky town two totally separate albums um that came out on the same day and uh we're gonna be listening to them now adam what do you think i think we should do that yeah now there's a lot of songs so we may not listen to as much of them as we normally would but uh you know we'll listen to a good chunk of them here um so human touch is considered to be number one and it was recorded uh sequentially first so let's start off with that. What do you say? Yeah, that sounds good.
Starting point is 00:55:46 This is track one. This is Human Touch by Bruce Springsteen. You and me, we were the pretenders. We let it all slip away. In the end, what you don't surrender Well the world just strips away Girl ain't no kindness in the face of strangers Ain't gonna find no miracles here Well you can wait on your blessings my darling I got a deal for you right here.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I ain't looking for prayers of pity. I ain't coming around searching for a crush. I just want someone to talk to. And a little of that human touch Just a little of that human touch So, this was a hit, I guess. It went to number 16. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:01 And did someone else cover this? I'm sure someone has i don't know whether i know of anyone huge who does it i will say uh tegan from tegan and sarah has the first few lyrics tattooed i believe on her arm really yeah she loves she loves this song i think it's a great song sounds a little so so we were talking about how kind of out of step it seems. Yes. It sounds a little like What Happened to Sting, where everything came out and it started seeming a little like adult contemporary.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yes. It really does. I mean, it's... Here it gets a little more rocking. But finding out that Randy Jackson was playing on it and he was just getting these studio guys at a time when music was getting more raw. Yeah, more exciting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:50 More like more authentic. Yes. Which is why if I heard this back then, I would have just been like, what the fuck is this? But now. But now it sounds really good. Yeah. It's like it's really good. If Oron Drugs put this out.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Exactly. It sounds like that sort of bruce hornsby don henley stuff yeah this is one that springsteen wrote by himself um and obviously about his relationship about uh patty some might say um what do we think yeah i think this is an awesome song and i like the overproduction i i like this it sounds good now yeah at the time though like when we're i remember hearing nirvana's never mind and just being like oh my god thank god because everything in the late 80s up till about uh early 91 was so overproduced totally and echoey and totally you know so thick with like this like the keyboards yeah everything sound i was getting so sick of of alternative
Starting point is 00:58:55 music and everything at the time and then suddenly nirvana comes along and it's just like loud crunchy guitars and this is sort of the opposite of that but sorry you were talking about like how alternative music was starting to all of that but sorry you were talking about like how alternative music was starting to all sound the same yeah i was talking about like mainstream music all had like the big echoey drums and the thick keyboard atmosphere it's henley's the end of the innocence all that stuff which sounds good to us and bruce hornsby yeah but but at the time it seems like oh shit springsteen who had the edible street band and such an exciting live band yeah now you're moving into this area it just sounded so boring yeah but
Starting point is 00:59:33 now it sounds good yeah um so we like human touch yes very much okay what did you you like i like human touch too yeah um we'll reveal our choices for what goes on our lists a little later. Let's go to track two. By the way, this album, we said it's an hour almost. It's 14 tracks. So here we go. This is track two. This is Soul Driver by Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 01:00:00 This especially seems like Sting to me. Yes. That like pan, pan pipe keyboard effect it's like hey man bruce we don't need you doing the pan pipes on your songs The band pipe is making me laugh. It also reminds me of like what I thought of Peter Gabriel at the time, where I remember my aunt driving in the car and she was trying to relate to me as a 16 year old or whatever going do you like peter gabriel and me going fuck no even though peter gabriel now obviously like incredible and an alternative artist and everything but at the time because it was sledgehammer and all that it was so immaculately immaculately produced that i was just like
Starting point is 01:01:21 and anyone over the age of like 28 i thought was way too old to be making interesting music other than rem what do we think a soul driver i can't even get through it i like the melody when he starts singing i'm like oh that's a cool melody and i his voice he's in like really good voice but i it's too much i don't like it i don't like this production i would even say this is the most uh the most of this type of production on the entire record probably i think it's the most atypically produced of like oh shit this is really aiming to be uh adult contemporary stuff okay so then we have we mentioned it before this is the only uh thing that made it on the record from these other sessions that he was doing where he was
Starting point is 01:02:12 playing bass this is 57 channels and nothing on this is the third song on this album and this was a single as well i bought a bourgeois house in the Hollywood Hills With a trunk load of $100,000 bills A man came by to hook up my cable TV We settled in for the night, my baby and me We switched round and round till half past dawn There was 57 channels and nothing on 57 channels and nothing on By the way, this song is only a couple of minutes long.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Is it really? Yeah, by the time we start talking about only a couple of minutes long. Is it really? Yeah, by the time we start talking about it, it'll be over. Wait, I want to hear the chorus, though. I don't know that there is one. It's great beyond. It's 57 channels and nothing on. 57 channels and nothing on. 57 channels and nothing on.
Starting point is 01:03:30 So he's like talk singing. Here's what I'll say about it. I do like breaking up the sound of the record with this thing from these other sessions. I think Springsteen even admits, he goes, I don't know what I'm doing with this song. Yeah, it sucks. He's like, this kind of social satire is not really his thing, and he admits that. He's just like, I don't even know what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Especially at the time there was Zoo TV happening. By the way, so if you listen to one of the concerts, he took out a a band a different band than the edibles to do the shows for this he obviously like knows this song is weak i think and he's trying to figure out a way to make it seem important or something so he's doing sort of a zoo TV kind of thing with it where he's playing clips of like news news and stuff over it. But I remember that. But then he also has the backup singers saying no justice, no peace, which like this song is not about. He's trying to tie it to the riots when he when he sings it. And it's just not working.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I feel like I remember that like on his unplugged performance doing this song. And I don't remember where it was, but I remember it. It was probably the unplugged. Them trying to tie it to like this big message. When it's really just a two minute song about, hey, there's a lot of cable channels. Yeah, and the cable guy coming over and his wife. It's a song about the cable guy. I mean, it's a song about the cable guy i mean it's ridiculous so yeah but i but i like the sound being different than the rest of the album that's
Starting point is 01:05:10 the one thing i'll say sure but i do not like the song no and it was a single which is such a weird choice for a single but i think because it sounded different it was like i don't know let's try this all right this is track four this is cross my heart and this is by bruce springsteen i was begging baby please down on my knees when i crossed my heart when i crossed my heart i crossed my heart I crossed my heart
Starting point is 01:05:45 Pretty baby, oh, baby Second time I crossed my heart Rain came in from the south I was lying there with something sweet And salty in my mouth And I crossed my heart When I cross my heart When I cross my heart When I cross my heart
Starting point is 01:06:13 Dirty dog, who reads it? Well, you may think the world's black and white And you're dirty or you're clean You'd better watch out you don't slip Through them spaces in between What do we think across my heart? I like it. I just wonder if it's something that he's done better and more interestingly before.
Starting point is 01:06:53 I think with a better chorus, this song is... But the chorus is just so like... You know, like what you would expect. I don't mind the sound of the verses necessarily, but it's just... And that guy going, whoa! Yeah, you mentioned before that everyone involved was kind of feeling like Human Touch needed another...
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yeah, like a lot of people feel like these songs needed more work. Yeah. Yeah. This feels like it's like almost there, but not quite achieving liftoff. I do sort of like how he's rocking on the guitar at the end of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:32 It sort of makes it a little justified, but I don't know, but there's no like hooky chorus or anything. Yep. Agreed. Agreed. Okay. This is track five.
Starting point is 01:07:46 This is about a woman named Gloria and her eyeballs. This is called Gloria's Eyes by Bruce Springsteen. I was your big man I was your first charm King of the white horse And I love that fireball I tried to trick you And baby you got wise You cut me
Starting point is 01:08:24 Cut me right down to size But I'm just a fool in Gloria's eyes What do we think of Gloria's Eyes? Is that the chorus? I think so, yeah. I think this is better. This is sounding a little more like something I don't know like the church or the call would do
Starting point is 01:08:48 see I I remember liking it more listening to it I think I'm waiting for well there's a bridge I think also the instrumentals at the end are great I think I really
Starting point is 01:09:01 I like how weird it is how it sounds like his voice is a little removed yeah it's like his vocals are more buried in the mix we have a harmonica like sort of distorted like if simple minds put this out yeah that's what it sounds like it sounds like yeah mid-80s alternative rock or something like college rock yeah so i i i give this one a pass yeah here's the issue for me though at this point we're five tracks in everything is sounding semi-samey yeah in a way and we haven't had an awesome song since the first song first one yeah but i when i was listening to it um when i was going through the albums i really liked it right now i'm kind of waiting for that thing but the the end we can keep talking over it and then
Starting point is 01:10:00 we'll get to the end where it's sort of like they start soloing and it gets a little harder, I think, and that redeems it also a little bit in a way. But I couldn't even tell you if I give a shit about the lyrical content of it. The sun and golden glories lie Down by the sun and golden glories lie It's like Bruce Springsteen just like hitting the ball right down the middle over and over again on this album. Which, hey, if you're playing baseball,
Starting point is 01:10:37 it's not a bad strategy. Not bad. Hit it right down the middle, especially if you can knock it into, you know, that section of the park they call the bleachers or over into the concession stand where i would be okay this is uh track one two three four five this is track six of 14 this is with every wish by bruce frankston With Every Wish by Bruce Springsteen. Skip church one Sunday Road out and throw it in my line
Starting point is 01:11:28 You can hear Randy kicking in there. Oh, that's not Randy, actually. Oh. Interestingly enough. I knew it. This is Mark Isham's band. This is another song that was done with different musicians.
Starting point is 01:11:42 That's why it's a semi-jazzy different feel. But trumpeter Mark Isham. Right, the trumpet kicks in here. Yeah. There it is. What if he was like, Hey Mark, shut the fuck up, I'm trying to sing what do we think um i really liked it up until the trumpet and the sort of limp chorus for me it's still to me it's still it's not a good song yet no yeah it needs more writing yeah
Starting point is 01:12:28 i wasn't crazy about it not great okay uh now we get to uh this was a single this is a song called roll of the dice this we're halfway through this is roll of the dice by bruce frankstein Well, I've been a losing gambler Yeah, just throwing snake eyes Oh, love ain't got me down hardy I know around the corner lies Mountain's paradise Just another roll of the dice Oh, my livin's and seven sevens been coming up sixes at night.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Since I'm out for your date, I'm coming on changing times. They're waiting over the rice. Just another roll of the dice. So this is the most Edible Street song. Yeah, it just sounds like an old E Street band song. This is one that Roy wrote with him. And this is before the no piano rule came on, which apparently Springsteen instituted.
Starting point is 01:13:59 He's like, no piano. When was that? For Lucky Town? No, after a few sessions of this, he's like, I don't want this to sound like the Edible Street band. No piano. When was that? For Lucky Town? No, after a few sessions of this, he's like, I don't want this to sound like the Edibles group band. No piano anymore. Wow. So Roy Bitton was just playing keys on most everything else.
Starting point is 01:14:13 He's like, okay, dude. I don't know, whatever, you fucking weirdo. What do we think of Roll of the Dice? I really like this song a lot. This is a good one. You also have backing vocals by Bobby King, a gospel singer. Oh, wow. He sounds great.
Starting point is 01:14:29 All right. So, yeah, why not put that a little closer to the top, my man? Agreed. But who knows? Maybe we will on our re-sequencies of this. All right. So we are halfway through. Let's go to track eight.
Starting point is 01:14:42 This is Real World by Bruce Springsteen. Mr. Trouble, come walkin' this way It's gonna pass me like one long day But I'm alive And I'm feeling alright Well I run that hot road out of Heartbreak City Build a roadside carnival out of hurt self pity It was all wrong We were not moving on
Starting point is 01:15:44 Ain't no church that's ringing Ain't no flags on the world Just me and the love we're bringing into the real world Into the real world
Starting point is 01:16:00 The real world What do we think of the real world? I like it. That's the thing. I wouldn't say any of these are not... Well, I don't know. Some of them are bad. Some of them are bad.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I like that. I like the... Because when it kicks in, it sounds... To me, it sounds like the beginning of an album. Yeah, or the beginning of a song. This is what we're doing now. It sounds totally different from Bruce Springsteen. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:34 And that melody, I just wish the chorus had more liftoff. Yeah. But it grows on me, and I like the chorus. I think it's enough of a chorus to get going. I do really like it. So what grade do you get?
Starting point is 01:16:57 It reminds me of, like, Boy in the Bubble, which is not the best song on Graceland. Oh. But it's a perfect... I thought you were talking about Bubble Boy.
Starting point is 01:17:08 I love Bubble Boy. the best song on graceland oh but it's like you're talking about bubble boy i love bubble boy um i don't know i i really like it you're not as i'm just not i also the the album is wearing on me with just how samey it sounds at this point um just not that into it i have to say um all right here's uh the next track this is all or nothing at all by bruce springsteen say you give me just a little kiss and you rock me for a little while Yeah, and you'd rock me for a little while Yeah, you'd slip me just a piece of it Well, listen, I'm a little child I want it all, nothing at all Say yeah, I want it all, nothing at all nothing at all said you'd take me
Starting point is 01:18:08 for a little dance if you had a little time it just goes on like that this is one of those songs where I wonder why no one in the studio just stopped and said dude no
Starting point is 01:18:22 so you know who did? Little Steven listened to this record and said, throw the whole thing out. Really? And re-record it with the East Re-Band. Really? Yes. He was fucking right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:37 It feels like the wrong group to be doing a song. Let me play. It just sounds generic. Let me play a Marshall Crenshaw version. Of that song? Of that song that song yeah because supposedly oh and we have a little bit of a an ad first oh what's this for well we're giving him a free ad some sort of video game weird all right anyway this is marshall crenshaw marshall c, yeah, with a slightly rougher treatment of it. I haven't heard it. People talk about how superior it is, nothing at all.
Starting point is 01:19:25 I hadn't heard it. People talk about how superior it is. It's fine. I still don't like it very much. Marshall Crenshaw being a traditionalist and a, you know, Beatlemania guy. He's great. I would say like it fits more in with his oeuvre. But yeah, not happening for me. It feels like kind of a dumb song.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Especially with the band. It's not rough at all. It's so slick and so professional. All right, this is the next track. This is Man's Job by Bruce Springsteen. Okay, I like the riff a little better. What do we think, Adam? You don't like it. Loving you, woman, is a man's job Loving you is a man's job What do we think, Adam? You don't like it.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I think this is one of the better songs on the record. Really? You have Sam Moore from Sam and Dave singing backups. I mean, I feel like it's maybe a message that hasn't aged particularly well well you have a beautiful woman and it's a man's job to love her man's job sure i mean lyrically come on lyrically come on but uh i think it's one of the better musically realized songs on the record yeah i don't like it okay man's job um well then you're gonna hate this next one uh that is not a song for the visually impaired uh this is a song called i wish i were blind what by bruce briggs
Starting point is 01:21:34 i love to see a cottonwood blossom in the early spring I love to see a message of love that the bluebird brings But when I see you walking with them down a long stream. I wish I were blind when I see you with your man. We have the keyboard sound that he uses quite a bit in the 90s. What do we think about it? And the 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:23 On Tunnel of Love, yeah. What do we think about it? I like that song yeah on luck on uh tunnel of love yeah what do we think about i wish i like that song you like this one yeah what what about you i it almost made my sequencing but oh you cut this at the end i cut it yeah okay um because i just think it sounds a little too similar to songs he's done better yeah it's it's very tunnel of lovey yeah he wishes he was blind adam i like it you ever wished you were blind yeah right now sitting across the table from you motherfucker all right um three more songs on human touch here is a song called the long goodbye this is by br Bruce Springsteen. Well, the one thing I'll say about this is he finally has a different guitar sound. A little more crunchy.
Starting point is 01:23:54 I guess they talk about how he came in and said, I want a totally different guitar sound than I've ever used. And so they brought him all these different guitars, and he would just twist the knobs until it sounded exactly the same as what he likes jesus and but this is the one time where they used what exactly is it's uh something that uh the boston guitarist tom schultz uh created it's like a uh a rock man a walkman sized amplifier substitute that he put everything through. So it's sort of ZZ Toppy in a way, you know?
Starting point is 01:24:28 What do we think about the song? I like this song. You like this song? When you take the generic sort of quote-unquote rock sound and use it well, I really like it. Yeah. I like things that remind me of radio in the 80s. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:44 But when it's a lame song, it's annoying. But I like it when it's framed like this. It's a little generic for me. Yeah, I get that. All right, this is, hey, you know, we talked about a man's job. This is Real Man. Yeah. By Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I mean... Uh-oh. So people say this is the worst song he's ever recorded. You would probably disagree because I know you hate Cadillac Ranch. And prefer this to Cadillac Ranch. Took his baby to a picture show. Rambo, he was blowing them down. Wait, let's get to that chorus. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:59 I feel like he's trying to do, he's trying to like itch that scratch that he did, like scratch that itch that he did earlier this year when he put out that album of Motown Classics. It's almost like he's reaching for that. He's trying to do funny satire, sort of. Chucky Plotz says that he really wanted him not to put this song on the record, but felt like he couldn't bring it up because he just watched the entire edible street band get fired and so i think everyone feels like they're in a precarious position where they can't say what they really feel about this record see
Starting point is 01:26:35 that's what happens when someone gets so huge is like people should have told him not to put this album yeah well little steven was uh was the one who said like throw it all away and then he fired him i don't know if that's what happened uh well little steven quit but um okay this is the that's right he was already gone this is the last song uh and it's not even like a real song it's a a cover of a traditional song um this is Ponyboy by Bruce Springsteen. Ponyboy, ponyboy, won't you be my pony boy get up get up get up whoa my pony boy ride with me ride with me won't you take a ride with me underneath the starry sky my pony boy what do you think have you ever sing this to any of your kids?
Starting point is 01:27:46 Just this morning before they went to school. There's nothing teenagers like more than a traditional folk song. Well, speaking of which, so he sang this because he liked to sing it to his son. And then recently he said, my son hates this fucking song. Really? Yeah. That's so funny. Sort of like a bonus track i guess at the end it
Starting point is 01:28:06 really doesn't fit with the album no so now you're you're saying okay well why didn't he just put out human touch as by itself yeah how would it have been received if it was just this it probably helped it that it was put out with something Town. Yeah. Because it's not great. I do like that pony, I actually do like it. It's really pretty. It's fine. I just wouldn't put it on a record. It's a hidden track.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Yeah. Okay, tell you what, why don't we take a break, and when we come back, we'll do the same with Lucky Town, and we'll figure out if that is more to our liking. And then we'll also re-sequence. Oh, my God. Fans of this show. That's the big news.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Okay. We'll be right back with more You Spring and Springsteen on my bean. Bye, everybody. No, we're coming back. Bye-bye. No, we're going to come back. I swear. Hey,
Starting point is 01:29:21 welcome back. You spring and spring scene on my bean. We're listening to the two records, human touch and lucky town. We just listened to human touch and now we're going to hear the record that started out as, Hey, I'm just going to write one more song and put it on human touch and became a record in its own right. This is Lucky Town.
Starting point is 01:29:47 And let's just talk about the players on this. Yes. Generally, would you say you liked Lucky Town more than Human Touch? I don't want to reveal that information. Okay. We have Roy Bitton is back just on three songs. We have a guy named Gary Malibur on drums. Oh, they got Malibur for this one?
Starting point is 01:30:12 Gary Malibur, if you've seen the movie Phantom of the Paradise. Yeah, I've seen that. He is the drummer for the Juicy Fruits, the Beach Bums, and the Undeads. Oh, yeah. I don't remember him uh i just watched it for uh halloween and uh it's a good bit of trivia in my opinion did you really just watch that movie i did yes oh i'd never even heard of it phantom of the paradise de palma yeah i've never seen oh you gotta see it oh it's great brian de palma uh directed it uh yeah um wait it's it's uh uh paul williams stars in it god i've never it's a musical
Starting point is 01:30:49 and uh brian de palma brian de palma directed it uh it's it's it's sort of it feels like rocky horror picture show a little bit interesting uh it's it's great you should see it. Whoa. Anyway, that's a good bit of trivia. And then you have Patty and Susie Tyrell and Lisa Lowell. They do backups on three of the songs. And Springsteen is basically playing bass, guitar, keyboards, like most of the stuff himself, other than the drums. What do you think of that? What are you looking up here? I was looking up most of the stuff himself, other than the drums. What do you think of that? What are you looking up here?
Starting point is 01:31:27 I was looking up Phantom of the Paradise. You gotta, you should see it. I really need to see this. Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's just interesting that these are two completely different scenarios. Yeah. Personnel-wise.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Exactly. So here we go. This is track one. This is Better Days. This is by Bruce Springsteen. They're just sitting around waiting for my life to begin While it was all just slipping away Well, I'm tired of waiting for tomorrow to come For the train to come rolling round the bend I got a new suit of clothes and a pretty red rose
Starting point is 01:32:20 A woman I can call my friend These are better days, baby What do we think of Better Days? This is a single released, I think think at the same time as human touch sort of like hey we're gonna release a single from both which is super confusing very confusing um i like this song i like the sound better yeah i like i like the the addition of the three women singing backups singing sort of gospel tinge backups i think is great It was a double A side with Human Touch. So they both went to number 16. Got it. But yeah, so far I'm like,
Starting point is 01:33:11 oh, okay, different sound. I like it. Sounds good. A better days. Okay, Better Days so far is a hit with us. All right, let's go to track two. This is the titular Lucky town by bruce springsteen Well, the house got crowded, clothes got too tight And I don't swear I'm going right
Starting point is 01:33:51 However, the sky's been cleared by a good hard rain There's somebody calling my secret name I'm going down to Lucky Town Going down to Lucky Town, going down to Lucky Town. I lose it because I find I'm in Lucky Town. Every time I'm in Lucky Town. And I go to find... Lucky Town, Adam.
Starting point is 01:34:24 He's singing in a different voice, which I think is interesting. Yeah. Lucky Town, Adam. He's singing in a different voice, which I think is interesting. Yeah. If you listen to Bruce Springsteen albums, much like David Bowie, you know how David Bowie has the crooner, but then he goes, this guy, but then he goes, you'll have to. So Springsteen always does that. We'll get to it, but on the Magic album, he goes back and forth from a lot of different voices. But this was a new... He even talks about it.
Starting point is 01:34:52 He goes, I could do it like this guy. I could do it like this guy. This was a new guy that Springsteen... I really like this guy. I like this guy. Kind of a nasally guy. And it's more sort of straightforward rock and roll like almost country rock yes like it almost sounds like uh like uncle tupelo or something yeah yeah exactly all right lucky town yeah it's
Starting point is 01:35:14 cool it's a hit with us all right this is a song this is track three this is a song if you oh is this a song yeah this is a song this This is called Local Hero by Bruce Springsteen. I seen a face stared out of a black velvet cake From the window of a fine and dime I couldn't quite recall her name But the photos looked familiar to me So I asked the sales girl who was that man Between the dope woman and Bruce Lee She said just a local hero Local hero, Adam. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:36:21 I like it a lot. I think the song's stupid really it's all about how he was in jersey and saw a picture of himself in a store window so he went in and said hey let me get that picture and the store owner went yeah it's a local hero sort of like i didn't really follow the narrative of it i was just kind of listening to i know i know once i once i heard what the narrative was and then i heard a lot that i i've heard him sing it live in some of the concerts that came out i've i've grown to dislike it but but but but you like the sound of it at least yeah i i really do and i was i listened to lucky
Starting point is 01:37:02 town first oh interesting going into these albums so, like here and then Living Proof is next. Is that right? No, If I Should Fall Behind. Okay. But around here in Local Hero, I was like- What's wrong with these? What's the problem with these albums? Exactly. Well, this is great. I'll reveal this is a better record than Human Touch. Yeah. Yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Let's do track four. This is If I Should Fall Behind by Bruce Springsteen. We said we'd walk together Baby, come what may There come the twilight Should we lose our way If as we're walking Our hands should slip free
Starting point is 01:37:56 I'll wait for you Should I fall behind Wait for me We swore we'd travel Darling, side by side We'd help each other Stay in stride But each lover's steps fall
Starting point is 01:38:26 so differently But I'll wait for you And if I should fall behind Wait for me What do we think, Adam? Uh, it's fine. I like this one a lot. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:38:44 This is a gorgeous song, I oh okay i got yeah it is sounds like uh a tunnel of love song yeah like kind of a boring tunnel of love song to me it sounds like it's it's almost up there with some of the stuff like uh those tunnel of love singles that we really yeah like the really good ones yeah yeah i like this one a lot all right if i should fall behind wait for me adam so just yeah take it off we'll see we'll see what i decide to do all right all right this is uh track five of ten. This is Leap of Faith. By Bruce Springsteen. I was scratching very ditched Oh, heartbreak and despair
Starting point is 01:39:45 Got nothing but thorns So I grabbed you, baby, like a wild bitch It takes a leap of faith To get things going It takes a leap of faith You gotta show some guts It takes a leap of faith To get things going
Starting point is 01:40:03 In your heart, girl, you must trust Leap of faith, Adam. What do you think? I like this one. It's got the backups again. The only thing I would say is, again, because they are two separate albums with two separate sounds it's starting to feel samey yeah you know what i mean but but if you just listen to it as a song i like it yeah i like it a lot more listening to it now i think it started to get on my nerves by the time you know just because it's
Starting point is 01:40:48 uh it's really catchy yeah every time i listen to it here's the thing i didn't put it initially on my sequencing and then i heard it again i was like what am i doing yeah i put it back on yeah it's like a perfectly construed maybe it's like too perfect and slick and it's made uninteresting or something i don't know maybe it if it were recorded with a different band it would be more interesting but it doesn't sound live really yeah right which isn't bad we're halfway through this record let's go to track six. This is The Big Muddy. This is by Bruce Springsteen. She was that little something that he did for himself Still the old little secret didn't hurt nobody Come the afternoon he'd take her away
Starting point is 01:42:03 Wasted in the big muddy Ways deep in the big muddy Start out standing but end up crawling What do you think, Adam? Not one of my favorites. I don't like songs like this. Although I like it when you hear a song like this at the end of a scene in Justified.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Yes, that seems like where it belongs. Other than that, wouldn't listen to this for pleasure. No. This is where the album starts to get a little... Shaky? Shaky, maybe. But let's go to track seven. This is Living Proof. listen to this for pleasure no this is where the album starts to get a little shaky shaky maybe but uh let's go to track seven this is living proof this actually was the song that he was gonna record and add to human touch oh and um instead he made a whole album out of it but this is living
Starting point is 01:42:58 proof got it Well now on a summer night Oh in a dusky room Come a little piece of the Lord's undying light Crying like he swallowed the fire Oh and yeah his mother's arms Oh what beauty I could take Like a mission worse than some prayer Well, that I could never make
Starting point is 01:43:38 Oh, in a world so hard and dirty So foul and confused Searching for the good God's mercy I'm bound and grew I'm bound and grew what do we think of living proof i like it this is about his son uh this is where i start to feel like too much of a good thing it's just too much. Of this. It's just too much. Yeah. So I'm, and there's nothing grabbing me necessarily musically. Well, the chorus is just sort of blends into the verse a bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:35 But I just love the sound of the verse. We're music experts, by the way. Yeah, I know. We don't know what the fuck we're talking about. But it just doesn't sound, there's not like a big change. But I really like it. All right, this is track eight. This is Book of Dreams.
Starting point is 01:44:49 This is a Bruce Springsteen song. Huh. Bruce Springsteen. I'm standing in the backyard listening to the party inside. Tonight I'm drinking in the forgiveness that life provides. The scars we carry remain, but the pain slips away it seems.
Starting point is 01:45:22 slips away it seems Oh, won't you, baby be in my book of dreams I'm watching you through the window with your girlfriends from back home You're showing off your dress there's laughter
Starting point is 01:45:48 and a toast from your daddy to the prettiest bride he's ever seen oh won't you baby be in my book of dreams adam what do we think book of dreams um not for me okay i like book of dreams yeah it just it's i mean i love these springsteen songs when they're
Starting point is 01:46:20 but i feel like again this is one of those Tunnel of Love-ish songs that he's done really well before. Maybe I just generally like Tunnel of Love more than I remember liking it. I like this type of thing. I think it's fine, but I don't know why it's on the album. That's interesting, because I think ours are going to be wildly different. Because I felt at the beginning, like, oh, we're going to pick the same songs. Yeah, I think we're going to hate each this is each other track nine souls of the departed by bruce springston On the road to Biosmith's with young Lieutenant Jimmy Bly
Starting point is 01:47:08 Detail the go-kart, the clothes of the soldier who died And at night in dreams this is her soul's rise. Yeah, light dark east into the Oklahoma skies. Yeah, listen to the prayer for the souls of the departed. Those who have gone with their fated broken heart. I personally don't get this one. Yeah, not for me. I liked the movie The Departed. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 01:48:02 It's pretty good. Do you like Infernal Affairs better? No, I liked The Departed more. I liked Infernal Affairs a lot. I still haven't seen them. I haven't broken into that box set yet. You haven't seen The Departed? No, Infernal Affairs.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Oh, those. Or The Trilogy. Yeah, because I only saw the first one. I just don't get it. Okay, this though is the last track on the record. This is called My Beautiful Reward by Bruce Springsteen. Well, I sought gold and diamond rings My own drug is the pain that living brings.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Walk from the mountains to the valley floor. Searching for my beautiful reward. Searching for my beautiful reward Searching for my beautiful reward From a house on a hill A sacred light shines I walk through these rooms But none of them are mine. Down empty hallways, I went from door to door.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Searching for my beautiful reward. Searching for my beautiful reward adam i like it i like it too i think it's good i have some minor quibbles with the production maybe uh would it have been better recorded uh with a different group maybe but uh i i like that i like uh i like that all right so we agree that lucky town is way better way better um but what we've done here here were the rules we said okay we're gonna take the songs that we like from these records and make our own first of all no cheating no That was rule number one. No cheating. No using other people's songs.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Yeah. Can't just put, you know, Prince's Purple Rain on here. No, I mean... Would it have been better with Prince's Purple Rain? Sure. But if you put Prince's Purple Rain
Starting point is 01:50:41 on your playlist and tried to, like, beef it up with a really good song like that right I would know right away that it wasn't a Bruce Springsteen song probably like the second you played it or at least when the vocals kicked in right all right so that that was our main our main rule was that we couldn't do that so let's uh start with uh track one on mine okay now wait yeah hold on a second what's up adam well wait pretty good right so far it's really good but i'm just trying to remember if i can which album this one okay wait a second what's up this is prince's purple rain oh shit is it get it off of here you're breaking the rules so um the rules were we we want to make we can make whatever we want
Starting point is 01:51:42 we can make a double cd we can make one lp we can make an ep if we don't like enough songs we can do whatever we want and technically the rules were we can use the uh songs the discarded tracks according to you that was a rule it was a rule and you said no that you weren't even gonna listen to them um do you want Do you want to go first or do you want me to go first? Well, what did you name your playlist? Because I thought it could either be Lucky Touch or Human Town. Human Town, of course. I went with Human Town.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Do you want to describe your record, what you made out of this? Sure. Mine is called Human called human town again as i said it has 12 songs 12 songs okay so how many does yours have mine has 13 whoa that's uh hold on i need to do the math here do you have a calculator on your phone? I think I have one. On my phone? Hold on. Okay, never mind. I got one. Hmm. Twelve.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Wait. Thirteen. Carry the one, Adam. Carry the one. Minus 12 years, that's 13. Okay, yeah. This is what I thought. You have one more song than I do. I have more yeah did you time out your record how long yours is uh 52 minutes 52 i i got mine down to like just
Starting point is 01:53:15 over 50 with one more song one more song how did you do that well i did use the single edits of two of the two of the songs so like an idiot so but they're available on uh your your uh all your streaming devices so you can what you can do with these by the way if you're listening you can make these playlists uh at home and then listen to them uh one after the other don't listen to them uh concurrently and we we'll, of course, publish these playlists on our website. Yes, of course. The New York Times. Okay. This is the first song
Starting point is 01:53:52 on Humantown. Okay. You've got my interest piqued. What is the first song? This is the song that opens the album, Humantown by Bruce Springsteen. Oh. the song that opens the album human town by bruce springsteen this is uh real world real world interesting start to the record i just think it's like i said it's like boy in the bubble it's like this right right right opening salvo interesting okay okay so that's my first one okay
Starting point is 01:54:38 you gotta press stop before i turn it back up. Okay. Wait, no, no. I want to hear yours. Do them all. All of them? Yeah, yeah. I want to hear yours. I thought we were going to each do our first. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Isn't that the way we used to do it? No, no. I want to hear yours as a total piece of art here. All right. Okay, so opens up with Real World. Real World. Song number two. And that's from Lucky Town.
Starting point is 01:55:03 That's from Lucky Town. Okay. Which is not a particular favorite of either of ours right okay this is song number two okay this is like a reassuring dice yes we're back to familiar ground yeah we're still bruce springsteen yeah hey don't get it twisted yeah Yeah. My name is still Bruce. Wait, what's my name? Last name Springsteen. Last name Springsteen. Okay. Interesting. Okay. Roll of the dice. Okay. Okay, great. Then we're going, and that's from Human Touch. That's from Human Touch. First two songs, Human Touch. No, no, no. First was Lucky Town, then then uh human touch no first was human touch real oh sorry real you're right okay first two songs from human touch yes so that's like we're going in a new direction don't worry we're still who you think we are got it now you know where you are you know the possibilities of this album we We're ready. Let's go. Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Okay. This is Better Days. Better Days from Lucky Town. Okay. I see where you're going with this. Okay. All right, Better Days. So that's three somewhat rockers in a row. It's time to take it down a notch.
Starting point is 01:56:28 Got it. My beautiful reward. My beautiful reward. This is the last track off Lucky Town. That's right. Okay, interesting placement. I respect it. It's good to just-
Starting point is 01:56:47 That's an album closer on Lucky Town, but we're taking a breather here. All right. Interesting. Okay, so that's the fourth track. That is track number four. Five, it's time to breathe a little life into the proceedings.
Starting point is 01:57:03 Look, we need some CPR here after that song. It's a nice song, but listen, let's plug the guitars back in. Here we go. Plug the drum back in. Sounds more alike. And then the guitar. And then the guitar, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:20 On a summer night Oh, in a dusky room And this is what I thought of as the end of side one even though it's a little premature this is track five yeah this would be i guess the next song would be the end of yeah and this is uh living proof living proof off of Luckytown. Right. Okay. Interesting. Okay. Got it.
Starting point is 01:57:51 All right, let's close out side one. What's the next track? In an ideal world, this would be the first song on side two. Got it. Yeah, but it's a CD, so it doesn't even matter. Doesn't matter. Okay, here's the next song. Doobie doo doo, touch yeah interesting you're burying at six yeah but i feel like it needs like good prominent placement so it would be the
Starting point is 01:58:16 beginning of side two yeah okay got it all right we have six more songs to go what's next uh okay so human touch is bringing it down a bit we got it although it rocks at the end it rocks at All right. We have six more songs to go. What's next? Okay, so Human Touch is bringing it down a bit. We got to... Although it rocks at the end. It rocks at the end. Inject a little pop into the proceedings. Oh, popular music. By pop, I mean like a catchy chorus.
Starting point is 01:58:41 This is not really pop. Country sounding. Yeah. Okay, so this is Local Hero. Yes. On Lucky Town. Song I don't particularly care for. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:58:53 All right. What's next? Next is this song. This is Glory's Eyes, right? Yes. From Human Touch. this is glory's eyes yes from human touch all right great what do we got next next is another song by bruce springsteen here it is leap of faith leap of faith okay it takes a leap of faith i just added this one because i was
Starting point is 01:59:29 listening to it and you said this is good so you gotta it's like why why why did i leave it off all right the same the same thing i had okay a couple more up a couple upbeat songs it's time to take it down a notch one more time i wish i were blind off of human touch. He wishes he was blind. Okay. These are two very different listening experiences. I like it. I wonder who will like which one by name.
Starting point is 01:59:59 We're about to wrap it up here. How many songs do we have left? We have two left? Two left. Okay. I like the big sort of summation song being the song
Starting point is 02:00:13 before the final song. The penultimate song. The final song should almost be its own thing. Okay, got it. So the penultimate song. Okay. Great song. I really like this song. Okay. Great song. I really like this song. Lucky Town.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Lucky Town. Okay. Lucky Town. Lucky Town. Yeah. Okay, great. And how do you close it out? I'm interested how you
Starting point is 02:00:37 close out this record. Well, funny you should ask. Here we go. By Bruce Springsteen, here's a song. here we go by bruce springsteen here's a song if i should fall behind if i should fall behind by bruce springsteen okay all right interesting album yeah i think it's a pretty pretty like a solid bruce springsteen so if you if you got this as a bruce springsteen fan you'd
Starting point is 02:01:05 be like okay well it wouldn't be as disappointing as hearing both of these together no i think it would be okay he's just he's he's you know he's doing treading water a bit but it's really good got it got it okay let me play mine this is uh an album called human lucky okay um and i uh i'm gonna start it off this is track one here we go yep human touch okay so you're setting the scene with this kind of how human touch starts with this kind of yeah exactly how human touch starts this is the single edit it's about a minute and a half shorter um 90 seconds 90 seconds or so um that's how i'm starting it okay uh and it's a little bit of a different sound for uh spring scene fans but but we're enjoying that. All right. And then we're going into track two.
Starting point is 02:02:07 Same track two you used. Wow. Interesting. Roll of the dice. Hey, we're not too different. That's really interesting. I think we both agree this is a good, like, almost salve for fans who are like, is this going to be too different? And it's funny that we both chose
Starting point is 02:02:25 tracks to open the album that are sort of a statement of a new direction exactly yeah all right um this is track three this is how you ended the record i'm i'm changing the sound up because i feel like after two rockers you need a little variety this is if i should fall behind it's a good that's a good track three um all right now i'm going to track four this is a song i like you don't like it as much but i just like the sound of it and i think it sounds different enough after those three songs what what is it again this is man's job oh i like man's job i know the sentiment is a little old-fashioned but i like it um all right this is track five yeah going to lucky town that's good i wonder where you're going to put Better Days. Really burying it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:26 Well, this is the last track on side one. If we're doing sides. This is Book of Dreams. Oh, yeah. I didn't like this one. Bit of a snoozer. But you can take a nap during it. I'm staying in the backyard listening to the party inside. All right.
Starting point is 02:03:50 So then side two. There we go. Better days. Single edit. That you can find on Bruce Springsteen's greatest hits. How much shorter is it than me? 45 seconds. Almost a minute.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Like 15 seconds shy. About shy, yeah. Then this is an outtake. This is one of those bass songs that he was making. I'm on the levee To see the gypsy man. The dirt needs my feet, baby. Turn into quicksand.
Starting point is 02:04:35 He looked into my palm. Then looked me in the eye. Told me you were gone, gone over the rise. Once we stood together at the wishing well. Our wishes like dreams, baby, into the water. What do you think, Adam? I like it. I like this song.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Yeah, it's a different sound. So I picked some of these bass songs because they just sound different. Yeah. You need to trick the ear a little bit. It's kind of a palate cleanser. Yeah. I like it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:05:22 All right. So then going to, this is track three on side two. This is Leap of Faith. Yeah. By the way, I don't know if I mentioned what that last song is called, but that was Over the Rise. Okay, so we go to Leap of Faith, and then I'm going to go to another outtake. This is the best outtake, I think. One of the best songs that he's never put on a record. This is called Sad Eyes.
Starting point is 02:06:05 Listen to this for a little bit. Hold my tongue, I don't do much talking. Say you're happy and you're doing fine. Well, go ahead, baby, I got plenty of time. Be a saint, never lie. Be a saint, never lie. Bigger slaves Never lie Sort of him doing a Roy Orbison kind of thing. Yeah. Has anyone ever covered that? Yes, there's been some great covers of this.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Let me tell you exactly who did one of them. Trisha Yearwood has done it um that's the main person that i i feel like i've heard it yeah maybe i've heard this i think he released it as a single when tracks came out too it's really good but yeah it's really good so i i wanted to put that on the record um call right, next up. You put it on yours, so did I. Gloria's Eyes. I know two Eyes songs next to each other. I thought you didn't like this one.
Starting point is 02:07:32 No, this is the one I like. Okay, Gloria's Eyes. And then my last outtake that I put on. This is called Loose Change. that I put on. This is called Loose Change. Made her a friendly little bar down along the coast She said it was her birthday
Starting point is 02:07:59 so we had us a nice little toast Drove around for a while Smoked a few cigarettes Took her back to my place She slept off her party dress Sat for a while on the edge of the bed just talking
Starting point is 02:08:31 loose change in my pocket loose change in my pocket What do you think? I like it. I like the prominent bass in these songs. Yeah, he talks about how these songs on tracks, it's the fourth disc of tracks, basically.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Yeah. He says, yeah, they're probably more interesting than Human Touch or Lucky Town, but I wanted to go out and rock with the band and so i didn't put out that record so interesting but they're really interesting songs i think okay so this is my final song this is track 13 this is how lucky town closes out on the actual album what is this? My Beautiful Reward. Yeah, this is a good closer. You put it fourth.
Starting point is 02:09:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah. I would maybe switch this and my last song like you did. Oh, interesting. Because I feel like the one I put last is almost too stark and slow. Interesting. For a final. Okay, so you'll edit it.
Starting point is 02:09:44 You're going to swap those yes what we want you to do is put these playlists together out there on spotify or apple music or whatever listen to them both yeah and then um figure out which one you like better and then go fuck yourselves yeah just go right away immediately to fucking yourself. Totally and completely go fuck yourself. But no, we do want to hear which one you like better because it's a competition between Adam and I. And whoever wins gets an incredible prize. Yeah. They get a date with the other.
Starting point is 02:10:22 So I'm hoping I win a date with Adam. Meanwhile, Adam's hoping he wins a date with me come on let's make it happen so at the end of the day how do we feel about human touch it's a weird it's a really weird chapter in his career it is he he goes out he gets a totally different band that he's then the the edible street band and he goes and tours with them and they're great and the shows i mean i i enjoy listening to them um he plays he plays a lot of songs from these two records so who does he tour with then it is a totally different group although although i think roy is in it um but it's like he gets almost like a rock slash gospel sound because he gets three backup singers doing like gospel harmonies. He's almost turning songs like Badlands into gospel songs a little bit.
Starting point is 02:11:15 It's an interesting tour, I think. I like it. He does great versions of the song that he did for the michael j fox uh light of day um the paul schrader which was originally called born in the usa which is why he wrote the song did you ever have you seen that movie i did when it came out i was a little disappointed i wonder what it's like now yeah um but uh he goes out and tours with these this. The fans are against it, kind of. They're all excited to see Bruce, obviously, but a lot of people are like... They're pissed that the E Street Band is...
Starting point is 02:11:51 They're pissed, yeah. But I think they're rocking or whatever, but I enjoy listening to the records. But not really a success. A weird part of his history. We'll, of course, at the end of the season, we'll rank these albums and talk about what what we think of them but was he still like selling out arenas like i'm sure it was a successful tour
Starting point is 02:12:12 because oh yeah and he hasn't done it he hasn't toured in five years so people are all excited but they're like i'd rather see the east street band it's sort of just not as good or it's different it's different i think contextually now now that you know he gets back together with the edibles yeah you can listen to it and go like oh that's really interesting you know and you're not like fuck i just wish you'd get back with the edible street band but was he did do you think anyone at the time was actually saying that to themselves i wish you'd get back together with the edible street band i think so but were the set lists like i they were doing more kind of gospel tinged versions of some songs but
Starting point is 02:12:55 was he leaving out like like uh born to run and stuff or was no he he would still do those he he was calling a a lot from like born in the usa on although i don't think he did a lot of tunnel of love songs if i can recall but it it seemed like it was very much a lot of human touch in lucky town yeah when the when the tour first started yeah a lot of human touch in lucky town a lot of born in the usa a few of the old ones like badlands and stuff and then the more it went, I think the more he started phasing out. Yeah. I'm sure the crowd wasn't really responding to these songs.
Starting point is 02:13:28 Yeah. Cause like, you know, I have one of the shows from when he first started the tour and he starts by playing Better Days and people are like, yeah, cause I think it's on the radio at the time. Yeah. But by the year later, people are like, we don't care about any of these songs. So he's just kind of playing the old ones a little bit. Does he play any of this stuff anymore?
Starting point is 02:13:49 He plays If I Should Fall Behind. Oh, interesting. That one, I think, is still in the rotation occasionally. The Rotache? The Rotache. I don't think he plays any of these anymore. And like you say, he barely mentions of these anymore and like you say he barely mentions like I said rather he barely
Starting point is 02:14:07 mentions them in his book yeah it's a weird chapter but I'll tell you what the very next year something happens that totally changes everything for him and we're gonna talk about that in our next episode Adam okay you excited about that we're going to talk about that in our next episode, Adam. Okay. You excited about that? We're doing more of these. Unfortunately, we are.
Starting point is 02:14:32 Okay. That's going to be it for this one, though. We're going to come back next week, but until we do, we hope that you found what you're looking for. Bye.

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